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Quote from: Maladict on June 03, 2014, 05:48:01 AM
If I had read the news first I could have taken Colombia out of the poll. <_<
Quote from: Liep on June 03, 2014, 05:05:38 AM
Allez les bleus! :frog:
Quote from: Josephus on June 03, 2014, 05:48:35 AMIt's possible to choose our options up to just before the start of the match, isn't it?
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Quote from: Liep on June 03, 2014, 06:24:16 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 03, 2014, 05:48:01 AM
If I had read the news first I could have taken Colombia out of the poll. <_<
I've been buried in Danish politics all morning, why not Columbia anymore?
Quote from: Pedrito on June 03, 2014, 06:53:56 AMIs Pirlo still at the top of his game?
Right now, defense and midfield are a mix of old veterans of the 2006 campaign and young prospects - Buffon, Barzagli, Pirlo, De Rossi, Verratti, Marchisio are the top players;
Quote from: Pedrito on June 03, 2014, 06:56:07 AMQuote from: Josephus on June 03, 2014, 05:48:35 AMIt's possible to choose our options up to just before the start of the match, isn't it?
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Quote from: Liep on June 03, 2014, 06:24:16 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 03, 2014, 05:48:01 AM
If I had read the news first I could have taken Colombia out of the poll. <_<
I've been buried in Danish politics all morning, why not Columbia anymore?
Quote from: Zanza on June 03, 2014, 03:25:09 PMYes, he's still in very good form, although not a young prospect anymore, being 34 y.o. Still, he's been playing as a deep lying playmaker for Juventus for the last three years, and led them to three back to back Serie A titles. Supported by a couple of good box-to-box midfielders, like Vidal and Pogba, he played a great season.Quote from: Pedrito on June 03, 2014, 06:53:56 AMIs Pirlo still at the top of his game?
Right now, defense and midfield are a mix of old veterans of the 2006 campaign and young prospects - Buffon, Barzagli, Pirlo, De Rossi, Verratti, Marchisio are the top players;
QuoteWorld Cup 2014: Cristiano Ronaldo injury 'caused' by Ghana's most influential witch doctor named the 'Devil of Wednesday'
The Portuguese FA have confirmed that Ronaldo is suffering from two injuries with Nana Kwaku Bonsam claiming he cursed the forward back in February
Cristiano Ronaldo's knee injury that has threatened his World Cup participation has been caused by Ghana's most influential witch doctor, it has been claimed.
Nana Kwaku Bonsam predicted earlier this year that the Ballon d'Or winner would miss the 2014 World Cup in Brazil due to injury. Having waited the best part of four months for the World Cup to come around, Bonsam's prediction suddenly appeared a very realistic one after the Portuguese FA confirmed that the Real Madrid forward has two separate injuries.
The statement confirmed that Ronaldo is suffering from tendinosis in his left knee, as well as a muscular problem in his left thigh. Having already missed Portugal's international friendly against Greece last weekend, he is expected to sit out the first of two World Cup warm-up friendlies against Mexico on Saturday, with his participation in the second fixture against the Republic of Ireland on Tuesday also in doubt.
With Ghana set to meet Portugal in their final Group G fixture on 26 June, Bonsam – whose name translates to the 'Devil of Wednesday' – claims to have conjured a special spirit from the gods using four dogs, several leaves and a concoction of powders placed around an image and a caricature of the Champions League winner.
Speaking to Kumasi-based radio station Angel FM, Bonsam said: "I know what Cristiano Ronaldo's injury is about, I'm working on him.
"I am very serious about it. Last week, I went around looking for four dogs and I got them to be used in manufacturing a special spirit called Kahwiri Kapam.
Bonsam serves at the Kofioo Kofi shrine and predicted in February that Ronaldo would be struck down by injury for the showpiece tournament, and he even predicted that the 29-year-old will pick up another injury before the tournament gets underway.
He added: "I said it four months ago that I will work on Cristiano Ronaldo seriously and rule him out of the World up or at least prevent him from playing against Ghana and the best thing I can do is to keep him out though injury."
QuoteFranck Ribéry out of World Cup as Southampton's Morgan Schneiderlin is called up to France squad for Brazil
Ribéry is out of the World Cup after failing to recover from back injury
Didier Deschamps revealed Ribéry and Clement Grenier were out of squad
Lyon midfielder Grenier missed training today after injury on Thursday
Schneiderlin and Montpellier's Rémy Cabella called up from reserve list
Coach Didier Deschamps has already replaced goalkeeper Steve Mananda
France's star man Franck Ribéry is out for the World Cup after failing to recover from a back injury.
Ribéry, as well as Lyon midfielder Clément Grenier, have both been forced to pull out of the squad.
Bayern Munich winger Ribéry has been struggling to recover from a back injury and had only been able to follow an individual fitness programme until he joined the squad for training today.
Quote from: Liep on June 06, 2014, 10:46:31 AM
They really should do as that physician said and move it to August instead of having it right after the season endings.
Quote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 11:58:41 AM
Two Brazillians were at our house over the weekend, and will be in Canada for another couple of weeks (thus missing the start of the World Cup).
It's only two people, but I think it goes to the lack of enthusiasm that country is showing for hosting what is supposed to be one of sport's greatest events.
Quote from: Josephus on June 09, 2014, 12:20:34 PMQuote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 11:58:41 AM
Two Brazillians were at our house over the weekend, and will be in Canada for another couple of weeks (thus missing the start of the World Cup).
It's only two people, but I think it goes to the lack of enthusiasm that country is showing for hosting what is supposed to be one of sport's greatest events.
Two people do not a lack of enthusiasm show.
I think you underestimate. I mean there's always the one doctor out of 10 who doesnt' recommend Colgate...or the one scientist out of 1000 who doesn't believe in climate change. Freaks abound.
On Thursday afternoon every Brazilian with a TV set is going to be watching the world cup game.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
In fairness the same happened with the UK in 2012. The week before the Opening Ceremony everyone was down about the Olympics - remember Romney wondering about the enthusiasm. Then it started and :wub: :mmm: :w00t:
Quote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 12:41:58 PMNo. But they nearly were. The deal to avert Tube strikes during the games was reached a couple of months before they started and the bus drivers only reached a deal a month before.
The week before London 2012 the London underground wasn't paralyzed by strikes.
Quote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
In fairness the same happened with the UK in 2012. The week before the Opening Ceremony everyone was down about the Olympics - remember Romney wondering about the enthusiasm. Then it started and :wub: :mmm: :w00t:
The week before London 2012 the London underground wasn't paralyzed by strikes.
Quote from: Valmy on June 09, 2014, 12:57:21 PMQuote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
In fairness the same happened with the UK in 2012. The week before the Opening Ceremony everyone was down about the Olympics - remember Romney wondering about the enthusiasm. Then it started and :wub: :mmm: :w00t:
The week before London 2012 the London underground wasn't paralyzed by strikes.
This kind of hand wringing happens every time a country is hosting one of these big events. Everybody is terrified they are going to look bad on the international stage after blowing a billion tax dollars on it.
Quote from: Barrister on June 09, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
"a" billion tax dollars?
Try 14 billion.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 09, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
Just once I want to see a World Cup or Olympics turn into a total disaster. We always get these predictions, and it has never happened (ignoring terrorist events).
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
South Africa was pretty shit too.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
Montreal?
South Africa was pretty shit too.
Quote from: Valmy on June 09, 2014, 01:28:36 PM
I don't know. Even not considering the bombing the 1996 Olympics seemed like a flop.
Quote from: Syt on June 09, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
John Oliver tears into FIFA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I
Quote from: Liep on June 08, 2014, 05:34:35 PM
La France a gagné 8-0 contre la Jamaïque ! Magnifique ! Vive Deschamps, vive la France ! :frog:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 09, 2014, 04:50:51 PMQuote from: Liep on June 08, 2014, 05:34:35 PM
La France gagné contre la Jamaïque 8-0! Trés magnifique! Vive Deschamps, vive la France! :frog:
L'équipe de France est-elle la championne du monde des matches amicaux ?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 09, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Anyone want to go in on flag bikinis? I'm thinking to sell them at each venue.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 09, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Anyone want to go in on flag bikinis? I'm thinking to sell them at each venue.
Quote from: mongers on June 09, 2014, 05:08:15 PMQuote from: MadImmortalMan on June 09, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Anyone want to go in on flag bikinis? I'm thinking to sell them at each venue.
I've heard you look terrible in them, but don't let me stop you.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 09, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
In fairness the same happened with the UK in 2012. The week before the Opening Ceremony everyone was down about the Olympics - remember Romney wondering about the enthusiasm. Then it started and :wub: :mmm: :w00t:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 09, 2014, 04:01:34 PMQuote from: Syt on June 09, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
John Oliver tears into FIFA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I
I love that show.
Quote from: dps on June 09, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
Uhm, you're a few days off there.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 10, 2014, 04:03:03 AM
It is of utmost importance that the status quo is maintained with respect to World Cups.
It means that those who have not won the trophy before cannot win it.
If, in the extremely regrettable circumstances where this cannot be done (as in 2010), it is very important that the the winner come from either Europe, or South America.
If the tournament is held in Europe, only Brazil and European teams can win it. If the tournament is held in the Americas, only South American teams can win it. If the tournament is held outside the Americas and Europe, only Brazil can win it.
To sum up, Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay should win this World Cup for the sake of status quo.
Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2014, 09:14:26 AMQuote from: Monoriu on June 10, 2014, 04:03:03 AM
It is of utmost importance that the status quo is maintained with respect to World Cups.
It means that those who have not won the trophy before cannot win it.
If, in the extremely regrettable circumstances where this cannot be done (as in 2010), it is very important that the the winner come from either Europe, or South America.
If the tournament is held in Europe, only Brazil and European teams can win it. If the tournament is held in the Americas, only South American teams can win it. If the tournament is held outside the Americas and Europe, only Brazil can win it.
To sum up, Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay should win this World Cup for the sake of status quo.
Why didn't Spain's victory in South Africa create a new Status Quo? :hmm:
Quote from: Liep on June 10, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
THURSDAY. :w00t:
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 10, 2014, 10:42:14 AMQuote from: Liep on June 10, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
THURSDAY. :w00t:
Are we really that excited to see Brazil lose Croatia?
Yes, yes we are.
Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
That would be pretty hilarious.
I'm tempted to place a few bets on the outright winner. I see 6/1 payouts for Germany winning. Ditto for Spain. Iran is at 2500/1, so a $100 bet on them would pay off my house if they win :w00t:
Yi will probably correct my betting terminology-- I usually screw it up.
Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 10:20:48 PM
He briefly considered Brazil but decided they were "too Brazilian".
Quote from: PDH on June 10, 2014, 10:35:30 PMQuote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 10:20:48 PM
He briefly considered Brazil but decided they were "too Brazilian".
See, that is going to be the downfall of Brazil this WC.
QuoteSundayLeagueHipster @HipsterManager · 19h
Can't wait until the first game of the World Cup because Croatia have a triple pivot of Modric-Rakitic-Kovacic
I need to change my trousers
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
With no Canada (as if!), not even a Ukraine, I guess after my trip there (and last weekend's reciprocal visit by a couple of nationals) my loyalties lie with... Brazil?
Feels funny pulling for a huge favourite, I almost always pull for the underdog. :mellow:
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 11, 2014, 10:21:17 AM
We can give it metrics, any team with a 10/1 or over line?
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
With no Canada (as if!), not even a Ukraine, I guess after my trip there (and last weekend's reciprocal visit by a couple of nationals) my loyalties lie with... Brazil?
Feels funny pulling for a huge favourite, I almost always pull for the underdog. :mellow:
Quote from: derspiess on June 11, 2014, 10:30:52 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 11, 2014, 10:21:17 AM
We can give it metrics, any team with a 10/1 or over line?
I guess. But I look at it more step-by-step. Like right now, any team not favored to qualify (i.e., the "bottom two" of each group) is an underdog. And then later you have underdogs for each round in the bracket.
Quote from: Liep on June 11, 2014, 12:38:11 PM
Was she the one with the shoe? What is the football analogy there?
Quote from: Liep on June 11, 2014, 12:38:11 PM
Was she the one with the shoe? What is the football analogy there?
Quote from: Warspite on June 11, 2014, 06:54:45 AMHe's entirely right this World Cup will be a little bit less special without Seamus Coleman.
And for those of you on Twitter, @HipsterManager is well worth a follow...QuoteSundayLeagueHipster @HipsterManager · 19h
Can't wait until the first game of the World Cup because Croatia have a triple pivot of Modric-Rakitic-Kovacic
I need to change my trousers
Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Well there was the 'Cinderella Man' John Braddock from the 30s so it at least goes back that far.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 11, 2014, 11:29:37 AMQuote from: Barrister on June 11, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
With no Canada (as if!), not even a Ukraine, I guess after my trip there (and last weekend's reciprocal visit by a couple of nationals) my loyalties lie with... Brazil?
Feels funny pulling for a huge favourite, I almost always pull for the underdog. :mellow:
Dont you have to turn in your Jets fan card if you do this?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 11, 2014, 02:58:43 PMBarrister and the Boys getting ready for a game:
When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dyin' day.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 11, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
Never send dancers to a basketball fight. :thumbsdown:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 11, 2014, 02:47:23 PMQuote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Well there was the 'Cinderella Man' John Braddock from the 30s so it at least goes back that far.
I am not sure how far back the sports references go but a quick google search turned up that a French author first wrote the Cinderella story in the 1600s, along with Sleeping Beauty and little Red Riding Hood.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 11, 2014, 09:55:36 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on June 11, 2014, 02:47:23 PMQuote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Well there was the 'Cinderella Man' John Braddock from the 30s so it at least goes back that far.
I am not sure how far back the sports references go but a quick google search turned up that a French author first wrote the Cinderella story in the 1600s, along with Sleeping Beauty and little Red Riding Hood.
Charles Perreault was pretty prolific at writing down oral history but thats all the credit he deserves.
Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2014, 04:48:26 AM
What are they gonna do with that stadium after the World Cup?
Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2014, 04:48:26 AM
What are they gonna do with that stadium after the World Cup?
Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2014, 04:48:26 AM
What are they gonna do with that stadium after the World Cup?
Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
You are not going to root for your fellow North Americans in the US and Mexico? :weep:
Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
You are not going to root for your fellow North Americans in the US and Mexico? :weep:
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:21:51 AMQuote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
You are not going to root for your fellow North Americans in the US and Mexico? :weep:
Valmy - if Texas isn't in a bowl game, do you go and cheer for your fellow Big12 Oklahoma Sooners?
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 11:23:57 AMQuote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:21:51 AMQuote from: Valmy on June 11, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
You are not going to root for your fellow North Americans in the US and Mexico? :weep:
Valmy - if Texas isn't in a bowl game, do you go and cheer for your fellow Big12 Oklahoma Sooners?
Yes...yes I do. But that is just how I roll.
Quote from: Tamas on June 12, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
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Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
What's good for your conference is good for your team. I stomached rooting for Miami, Pitt and Notre Dame (basketball) when they were in the Big East, and with WVU in the Big12 now I support Oklahoma in their non-conference games-- as difficult as their fans make it for me to do so.
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
Bah.
Your rivals - your true rivals - must always suffer agony and defeat.
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Aww shit, this is all about lumber subsidies, isn't it??
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:38:40 AMYep. It'd be mad for anyone in the Americas other than Americans to want the US to win a game. Sorry guys :console:
Your rivals - your true rivals - must always suffer agony and defeat.
Quote???Arsenal fan. Probably best to just leave him for a while :P
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 12, 2014, 12:09:12 PM
Yep. It'd be mad for anyone in the Americas other than Americans to want the US to win a game. Sorry guys :console:
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:02:17 PMQuote from: Warspite on June 12, 2014, 11:56:14 AM
YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
???
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
You guys(well Euros) should be more worried on how Villa is moving to NYCFC.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 12, 2014, 02:54:43 PM:w00t:
I'll be cheering Jelavic tonight :w00t:
Quote from: The Larch on June 12, 2014, 03:28:27 PM
Amazing saves by Pletikosa.
Quote from: celedhring on June 12, 2014, 03:31:43 PMQuote from: The Larch on June 12, 2014, 03:28:27 PM
Amazing saves by Pletikosa.
He's been their keeper since like forever, hasn't he?
Quote from: celedhring on June 12, 2014, 04:19:05 PM
Refereeing conspiracies aside
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 04:44:01 PM
Haters gonna hate.
Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2014, 04:40:05 PMQuote from: celedhring on June 12, 2014, 04:19:05 PM
Refereeing conspiracies aside
Speaking of which .... :P
Quote from: Tamas on June 12, 2014, 05:06:16 PMI'm glad Brazilians are as annoyed at Adrian Chiles as the English.
ITV's local studio is currently under siege by protesters while they discuss the game :D
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
Ah well. France will take care of Brazil as usual -_-
Quote from: Liep on June 12, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Just saw a recap. That wasn't just a weak penalty, that wasn't a penalty.
Quote from: dps on June 12, 2014, 07:37:29 PM
I'm off Monday and Tuesday and plan to watch all the matches those days, including our loss to Ghana.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 12, 2014, 05:03:17 PM
Rooting for Brazil is terrible and you are bad for doing it :mad:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 12, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Poor Croatia.
Kovac in that suit looked like Hannibal.
QuoteCould the 2022 World Cup really move from Qatar to the USA?
By Ryan Rosenblatt @RyanRosenblatt on Jun 12 2014, 7:57
People have been calling for FIFA to strip Qatar of the 2022 World Cup since the day they were awarded the tournament. Now, according to Jorge Ramos in a Tweet since deleted, FIFA is prepared to do just that, and if they do strip Qatar of the World Cup, they'd like the United States to be ready to host.
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As of now, it is a single report from a single person. There hasn't even been a rumbling of this development from elsewhere, and with FIFA's investigation of potential corruption in the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids not due to conclude until late July, it seems unlikely that they would move the tournament now. Ramos also throws out a lot of rumors, so to act as if this is true or in any way decided is a major stretch.
United States Soccer Federation president Sunil Gulati has also come out and flatly denied the report.QuoteSam Borden @SamBorden
Just spoke to Gulati, who is president of US Soccer and FIFA ExCo member. Could not have been more forceful in saying no approach made.
8:42 AM - 13 Jun 2014
Still, this is something that could happen, if not now then in the future. Many FIFA members, including president Sepp Blatter, have said that hosting of the 2022 World Cup would have to be revisited if there was any corruption found and several outlets, most notably The Times of London, have found clear instances of bribery.
In the event that Qatar is stripped of the World Cup, most believe FIFA would conduct a re-vote. In that case, countries would have to re-submit new bids to host, so the U.S. would have to want to host and put forth the effort necessary to bid. Most assume they would, as would Australia, Japan and South Korea, the rest of the countries that lost out in the original bidding for 2022.
The U.S. would theoretically have a leg up on any competitors in a re-vote because of its massive existing infrastructure and potential revenue. The U.S. already has more than enough stadiums thanks to the NFL, as well as transportation and hotels, plus MLS and colleges can provide the training facilities. Add in that the 1994 World Cup, which the U.S. hosted, was arguably the most financially successful tournament ever, and the Americans will be considered front-runners in a re-vote.
There is also a belief that the U.S. would hold an advantage because of a shortened timeframe to prepare, with the tournament changing hosts, but that's not really true. The 2022 World Cup was handed out extraordinarily earlier. Normally, FIFA announces hosts seven years in advance, so if a new country is awarded the right in the next year, they will have a normal amount of time to build whatever is necessary and organize the tournament.
But while the bulk of the speculation has been that FIFA would conduct a re-vote, it is possible that they just give the tournament to another country. That becomes especially likely if it takes a few more years before FIFA decides to strip Qatar of the tournament, leaving insufficient time for countries to bid, a vote to be held and then a country to organize the tournament.
In that case, the tournament would likely be given to the U.S. Its existing infrastructure means it can host on short notice and the revenue potential remains.
If that were to happen, NFL stadiums would host most, if not all, of the matches. New Jersey's MetLife Stadium, AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, and a potential new NFL stadium in Los Angeles would likely compete to host the final and opening match, but as many as 12 venues around the country could host matches. It would likely be the biggest World Cup ever contested, with average capacities topping 70,000 seats, and could potentially take soccer in the country to a whole other level.
Of course, right now Qatar is the host of the 2022 World Cup. Despite reports that it could be stripped of the tournament, it doesn't appear imminent. And even if it does, there is no guarantee that the U.S. would get to to host. Odds are, it will go to a re-vote and the U.S. would have to beat out Australia, Japan, South Korea and maybe others.
Rumors are going to swirl until FIFA actually takes the tournament from Qatar or Qatar hosts it. Until then, it's just a series of "what ifs."
Quote from: DGuller on June 12, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
I really hope Blatter gets ousted and/or jailed, and someone living in this century takes over. The bad referee calls are not the good kind of uncertainty; they're the kind of uncertainty that destroys the credibility of the game result.
Quote from: Norgy on June 13, 2014, 04:58:23 AM
Bias or incompetence, the end product was the same.
I am very unsure about the disallowed goal for Croatia. :hmm:
Julio Cesar is clearly not in any shape to play a World Cup.
Quote from: Norgy on June 13, 2014, 06:58:07 AM
He looks wobbly when coming off his line. The Croats time after time managed to slot a cross in between the central defenders and the keeper, and he fails to react quickly. His save from Modric' shot was a good save, but he should've held it. I believe he's been benched a lot at QPR, a second-tier team. Hardly a world-class keeper, and a potential achilles heel. But it's early days, and maybe he'll come good.
Quote
Dutch fan drives from US to Brazil for World Cup game
13 June 2014 Last updated at 00:49 BST
A Dutch football fan has driven from San Francisco to Brazil - across 10 countries and via the Amazon - to watch Holland play against Spain in the World Cup.
Even though he was unable to get hold of a ticket for the match, Ben still says the six-month journey was worth it.
He spoke to BBC Brasil's Julio Gomes about his passion for the game.
Quote from: Norgy on June 13, 2014, 06:58:07 AM
He looks wobbly when coming off his line. The Croats time after time managed to slot a cross in between the central defenders and the keeper, and he fails to react quickly. His save from Modric' shot was a good save, but he should've held it. I believe he's been benched a lot at QPR, a second-tier team. Hardly a world-class keeper, and a potential achilles heel. But it's early days, and maybe he'll come good.
Croatia should get through the group stage without any problem, I believe.
Quote from: Maladict on June 13, 2014, 07:57:50 AMQuote
Dutch fan drives from US to Brazil for World Cup game
13 June 2014 Last updated at 00:49 BST
A Dutch football fan has driven from San Francisco to Brazil - across 10 countries and via the Amazon - to watch Holland play against Spain in the World Cup.
Even though he was unable to get hold of a ticket for the match, Ben still says the six-month journey was worth it.
He spoke to BBC Brasil's Julio Gomes about his passion for the game.
He crossed the Darien? Ballsy.
Quote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Playground-level football this.
You yanks should have never gifted Mexico the chance to be here.
Quote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Playground-level football this.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 11:34:39 AMQuote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Playground-level football this.
Not easy in this weather.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 13, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
I'm shocked, shocked to see subpar refereeing is going on there!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
between the obviously incompetent-bordering-on-fixed refereeing, the overly dramatic fake pratfall injuries
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2014, 11:37:06 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 13, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
I'm shocked, shocked to see subpar refereeing is going on there!
See, that shit in the Brazil match is precisely why we can't take your silly ass little faggot sport seriously;between the obviously incompetent-bordering-on-fixed refereeing, the overly dramatic fake pratfall injuries and overall corruption between the sport and governments, your little backyard game is about as relevant and realistic as professional wrestling. Fake ass rigged eggplant bullshit, get a real sport.
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2014, 11:38:56 AMQuote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
between the obviously incompetent-bordering-on-fixed refereeing, the overly dramatic fake pratfall injuries
But enough about the NBA.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 11:34:39 AMQuote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Playground-level football this.
Not easy in this weather.
Quote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
Really, Brazil won't even need the ref to beat this lot.
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2014, 11:45:59 AMQuote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
Really, Brazil won't even need the ref to beat this lot.
Mexico had no business getting out of CONCACAF. They suck balls. I know they have made major improvements since last year but there is so much icing you can put on a cake made of shit.
Quote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:48:49 AM
It won't happen, but they should really merge CONCACAF and CONMEBOL qualifying. Besides preventing truly awful teams like this Mexico from qualifying, the US would also play better opposition instead of all the crap in CONCACAF, which would benefit them in the long run.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
They didn't. It's New Zealand that dropped the ball.
Quote from: celedhring on June 13, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Playground-level football this.
You yanks should have never gifted Mexico the chance to be here.
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2014, 12:00:26 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
They didn't. It's New Zealand that dropped the ball.
Yes I know they made the playoff but when was the last time the Oceania team beat the CONCACAF team? It was basically assured.
Quote from: derspiess on June 13, 2014, 12:10:19 PM
Didn't Mexico have a decent team a few years ago? What happened?
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2014, 12:10:46 PMQuote from: Valmy on June 13, 2014, 12:00:26 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
They didn't. It's New Zealand that dropped the ball.
Yes I know they made the playoff but when was the last time the Oceania team beat the CONCACAF team? It was basically assured.
It has never happen but it only has happened twice. T&T vs Bahrain for the 2006 WC is the other match up.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2014, 12:13:40 PM
We should merge with them.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 01:01:16 PM
Best thing from the first two games: the freekick spray.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 13, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Man, ESPN's score graphics suck. white on light blue?
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 03:26:23 PMYes, him. It seems that he gave more balance and timing to.the defense line.
Puyol? Yeah, he was solid when he was younger.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 13, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Man, ESPN's score graphics suck. white on light blue?
Quote from: Pedrito on June 13, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
:huh: ...and my pool predictions become rubbish.
L.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2014, 03:31:01 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 13, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Man, ESPN's score graphics suck. white on light blue?
:thumbsdown: It's worse than genocide.
Did you guys think that was a fair third Dutch goal, good no call on van Persie and the goalie?
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
Wow, Casillas.
End of an era?
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Robben is on fire. Damn! :w00t:
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
This must be the first time I watch the Dutch team play where I don't recognize ghetto majority of players names because they are so obscure. What a decline of Dutch soccer!
Quote from: alfred russel on June 13, 2014, 03:45:40 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
This must be the first time I watch the Dutch team play where I don't recognize ghetto majority of players names because they are so obscure. What a decline of Dutch soccer!
:P
Quote from: Syt on June 13, 2014, 03:49:13 PM
Ever since '88 and the likes of Gullit and van Basten the Dutch are my second team after Germany to root for, so I'm very happy with this.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
I was going to say worst defeat since 1898.
The second greatest failing of fodbol, after FIFA, is the absence of eye candy in the stands.
Quote from: Barrister on June 13, 2014, 04:03:52 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
I was going to say worst defeat since 1898.
The second greatest failing of fodbol, after FIFA, is the absence of eye candy in the stands.
In Brazil?
That doesn't sound likely.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
I was going to say worst defeat since 1898.
The second greatest failing of fodbol, after FIFA, is the absence of eye candy in the stands.
Quote from: Syt on June 13, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
As opposed to the NFL. :P
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloggerstobenamedlater.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Ffat.jpg&hash=189b3419d259ff09387e37bd2b82e6426e9102dc)
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 13, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
Maladict died and went to heaven.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 13, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
Maladict died and went to heaven.
God Speed, may he meet many Dutch girls in tight orange tops there.
Quote from: The Larch on June 13, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
What a fucking disaster.
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Syt, your avatar has inspired me to take one of our former players as well. It's the photo of his first game. Can you tell who that is?
Quote from: Monoriu on June 13, 2014, 03:43:39 PM
I am on Spain's side :weep:
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 03:51:07 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 13, 2014, 03:45:40 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
This must be the first time I watch the Dutch team play where I don't recognize ghetto majority of players names because they are so obscure. What a decline of Dutch soccer!
:P
It is Spain that is playing horrible, making it easy for the Netherlands. In van Persie and Robben the Dutch have two great players, but the rest of the team are either unknowns or has-beens. It is astonishing how bad Spain's defense has been.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
There hasn't been a boring game so far so Chile and Australia better turn up. :angry:
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 04:26:11 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 13, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
Maladict died and went to heaven.
God Speed, may he meet many Dutch girls in tight orange tops there.
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Syt, your avatar has inspired me to take one of our former players as well. It's the photo of his first game. Can you tell who that is?
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM:lol:
Syt, your avatar has inspired me to take one of our former players as well. It's the photo of his first game. Can you tell who that is?
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 03:51:07 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 13, 2014, 03:45:40 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
This must be the first time I watch the Dutch team play where I don't recognize ghetto majority of players names because they are so obscure. What a decline of Dutch soccer!
:P
It is Spain that is playing horrible, making it easy for the Netherlands. In van Persie and Robben the Dutch have two great players, but the rest of the team are either unknowns or has-beens. It is astonishing how bad Spain's defense has been.
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 01:01:16 PMThat's been in the MLS for years.
Best thing from the first two games: the freekick spray.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 13, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
What a decline of Dutch soccer!
Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
There hasn't been a boring game so far so Chile and Australia better turn up. :angry:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 13, 2014, 07:33:04 PM
Fernando Torres is a gaylord
Quote from: Norgy on June 13, 2014, 06:30:56 PMNope. Similar timeframe though.Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Syt, your avatar has inspired me to take one of our former players as well. It's the photo of his first game. Can you tell who that is?
It's Jürgen Kohler?
Quote from: Zanza on June 13, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Syt, your avatar has inspired me to take one of our former players as well. It's the photo of his first game. Can you tell who that is?
Quote from: Zanza on June 14, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
Yeah :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 14, 2014, 01:52:12 AM
He's hoarding typing paper because he knows the workers' state can't produce it. He's a hypocrite.
Quote from: Liep on June 14, 2014, 06:37:06 AM
They call it soccer in Ireland? :huh:
Quote from: The Larch on June 14, 2014, 07:17:00 AMQuote from: Liep on June 14, 2014, 06:37:06 AM
They call it soccer in Ireland? :huh:
Football there refers to Gaelic Football.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football)
Quote from: Zanza on June 14, 2014, 08:18:38 AM
PICTURE
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 14, 2014, 09:36:50 AMAnd which Seamus Coleman used to embarrass Cazorla early in the year (the little running keepy-up).
Which is awesome to watch.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 14, 2014, 10:40:39 AM
My flatmate's playing a video game. Apparently a Greece-Columbia group game isn't important enough for me to get the TV :lol:
Quote from: Agelastus on June 14, 2014, 11:19:19 AM
Well blow me...I must have been asleep or drunk when I made my picks a few weeks ago 'cause I had Australia over Chile; I could have sworn it was the other way round. As I intimated in my post of last night.
What was I thinking... :huh:
Notes to self -
(1) Drink less so you don't forget your picks.
(2) Drink more so as to forget your picks.
Quote from: Zanza on June 14, 2014, 07:50:26 AM
Nogomet? Can you explain that Warspite?
Quote from: Warspite on June 14, 2014, 12:07:24 PMQuote from: Zanza on June 14, 2014, 07:50:26 AM
Nogomet? Can you explain that Warspite?
Hmm, would be nog- (foot) and "met" I think is derived from metnuti, to place.
Quote from: Zanza on June 14, 2014, 03:50:57 PM
I really suck at predicting results so far.
Quote from: HVC on June 14, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
If there's one thing this World Cup has show is how stupid those South African horns were.
Quote from: Warspite on June 14, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
ARSENAL PHYSIO INJURED ON INTERNATIONAL DUTY #Arsenal :ultra:
Quote from: Warspite on June 14, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
ARSENAL PHYSIO INJURED ON INTERNATIONAL DUTY #Arsenal :ultra:
Quote from: HVC on June 14, 2014, 05:57:13 PMI'm thinking the same. Could be the Amazonian climate. Or the mediocrity of the teams :P
Is it just me, or is this one been the most hiring game so far? It's not that bad, exactly, but doesn't match the pace and emotion of the others played so far
Quote from: Pedrito on June 14, 2014, 06:01:28 PMQuote from: HVC on June 14, 2014, 05:57:13 PMI'm thinking the same. Could be the Amazonian climate. Or the mediocrity of the teams :P
Is it just me, or is this one been the most hiring game so far? It's not that bad, exactly, but doesn't match the pace and emotion of the others played so far
L.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 14, 2014, 07:01:26 PMCandreva had a great game, and Darmian too. England was unable to close the right wingers.
ENG 1 - 2 PIRLO
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2014, 09:27:24 PM
Japan is falling apart
Quote from: alfred russel on June 14, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Last world cup there were a zillion ties in the 1st games of the group stage. I decided to bank on that trend continuing, and picked most competitive games to be a draw in the languish pool. This seems to have been a flawed strategy.
Quote from: dps on June 14, 2014, 10:11:39 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 14, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Last world cup there were a zillion ties in the 1st games of the group stage. I decided to bank on that trend continuing, and picked most competitive games to be a draw in the languish pool. This seems to have been a flawed strategy.
Yeah, I picked a lot of draws, too. And the increased scoring means I have almost no chance of winning the tie-breaker (not that I'm going to tie for the top spot anyway).
Quote from: dps on June 14, 2014, 10:11:39 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 14, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Last world cup there were a zillion ties in the 1st games of the group stage. I decided to bank on that trend continuing, and picked most competitive games to be a draw in the languish pool. This seems to have been a flawed strategy.
Yeah, I picked a lot of draws, too. And the increased scoring means I have almost no chance of winning the tie-breaker (not that I'm going to tie for the top spot anyway).
Quote from: Norgy on June 15, 2014, 04:49:26 AM
I think I have massively fucked up my predictions in the WC pool. I can't even be arsed to check. :cry:
Quote from: Norgy on June 15, 2014, 04:52:10 AMIdol! :worthy:
By the way, the avatar for the WC is Italy's most notorious henchman, Claudio Gentile, gently cupping Diego Maradona's scrotum.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 15, 2014, 07:36:32 AM
...and this is how he treated The Greatest:
Quote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 04:52:36 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 15, 2014, 04:49:26 AM
I think I have massively fucked up my predictions in the WC pool. I can't even be arsed to check. :cry:
You're tied 2nd with me and frunk. :hug: Viking leads by 1.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 15, 2014, 08:14:23 AM
Where is said Languish Pool?
Quote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 02:33:26 PM
2 crossbars for France, and Pogba gets the blame for a scumbag move by a Honduran. A little more luck, please.
Quote from: Zanza on June 15, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
No national anthems for France and Honduras. :huh:
Allez les Bleus! :frog:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 02:52:02 PM
Les bleues have discovered the secret of team harmony: really bad haircuts. :D
Honduras seems to be, if not the floppiest, the most theatrical team with their shin grabbing. One drink every time a Honduran grabs his leg or head, 2 drinks if it's the wrong body part, 3 if he lies in the stretcher before getting back up.
Quote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 02:50:01 PM
Benzema. :w00t:
Quote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
Wow, terrible decision to show the 'no goal' before the goal. But own goal by the goalie there.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 03:57:11 PM
Distinct absence of French surnames on the team. So with the absence of the very French Ribbery, this team's Frenchiness is only 50% of the previous team's.
Benzema is what, an Arab name?
Quote from: Warspite on June 15, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
Valbuena, Cabaye, Griezmann?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 04:03:32 PMQuote from: Warspite on June 15, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
Valbuena, Cabaye, Griezmann?
QED
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 03:57:11 PM
Distinct absence of French surnames on the team. So with the absence of the very French Ribbery, this team's Frenchiness is only 50% of the previous team's.
Benzema is what, an Arab name?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 15, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
PS: Cabaye as cripto (sic) Spanish ? Really? :lol:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 05:05:47 PM
Hajmo Bosno!
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 05:09:46 PM:lol: :console:
Oh :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 04:26:23 PM
I'm not calling him le plus frenchie for his dictee scores.
He's got a beak like a toucan, he's on the short side, he's got a pretty scowly face, and a very French sounding name. Voila!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 04:58:03 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 15, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
PS: Cabaye as cripto (sic) Spanish ? Really? :lol:
Didn't you just say it was a Catalan name? :huh:
Quote from: Warspite on June 15, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Messi is moving around like a lead brick on Jupiter.
Quote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Not at all impressive by Argentina. I really can't wait for the second round of group games.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 15, 2014, 06:57:11 PMQuote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Not at all impressive by Argentina. I really can't wait for the second round of group games.
Yes, of the pre-tournament favourites none have impressed so far. Let's see if Germany does any better tomorrow.
Quote from: celedhring on June 15, 2014, 06:59:39 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 15, 2014, 06:57:11 PMQuote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Not at all impressive by Argentina. I really can't wait for the second round of group games.
Yes, of the pre-tournament favourites none have impressed so far. Let's see if Germany does any better tomorrow.
I thought Italy looked very solid.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 06:25:33 PM
Things I like about Bosnia:
Besic.
Sensible haircuts.
Lulic.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
By the way, Yanks, how's Roberto doing on ESPN?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
Yeah, coverage has been good. Except for that genocidal blue on blue graphic.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 15, 2014, 07:09:07 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
By the way, Yanks, how's Roberto doing on ESPN?
He's the best thing about ESPN's coverage by far. Not that it's terrible, it's actually pretty damn good. FOX has the rights for 2018 so I'm treasuring ESPN's coverage now because FOX's will be utter shit.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 07:05:13 PMI imagine mostly Brazilians hating on Argentina.Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 06:25:33 PM
Things I like about Bosnia:
Besic.
Sensible haircuts.
Lulic.
So far Bosnia is winning the hottie supporters on camera competition.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 07:38:59 PMYeah. A Times sports journo's just posted a video of a group of England fans in France shirts singing 'Deutschland Uber Alles' to a group of Germans, who sang 'God Save the Queen' back.
They were wearing Bosnian jerseys.
Quote from: celedhring on June 15, 2014, 06:59:39 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 15, 2014, 06:57:11 PMQuote from: Liep on June 15, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Not at all impressive by Argentina. I really can't wait for the second round of group games.
Yes, of the pre-tournament favourites none have impressed so far. Let's see if Germany does any better tomorrow.
I thought Italy looked very solid.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 15, 2014, 07:31:16 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 15, 2014, 07:09:07 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
By the way, Yanks, how's Roberto doing on ESPN?
He's the best thing about ESPN's coverage by far. Not that it's terrible, it's actually pretty damn good. FOX has the rights for 2018 so I'm treasuring ESPN's coverage now because FOX's will be utter shit.
Aka, the Gus Johnson experience.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 15, 2014, 08:03:05 PM
It will be horrible, and the analyst coverage will be even worse. :weep:
Quote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
Why is this?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 08:41:07 PMYou've taken good ones from what I can tell :(Quote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
Why is this?
Ours suck.
Quote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
Quote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PMKoreans don't seem terribly optimistic about their chance of advancing from what I've seen.
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
My American friend is flying to Brazil with her dad today. She has tickets to see Russia vs Korea- it was a pretty random draw about which game she would get. Not the most spectacular sounding of games but still, I am jealous.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 15, 2014, 09:59:02 PMQuote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
You miss a key demographic feature of American soccer fans. For a lot of them a big thing is about being international and not just some American rube focused on American centric things like baseball, american football, and bombing 3rd world countries.
If you read articles for American soccer fans, you will often see some british / non american phrases too and references to just how important it all is in some other country. The point is to keep feeding that part of the audience what they want to hear: you are now on some plane above a narrow american perspective--you have progressed into the global community.
Quote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PMWe have American commentators for American football. But also I think it's not the main 'national' sport so it's not much odder than us having Aussies commentating on the cricket. And, perhaps, there's not enough prominent retired/old/available American footballers to do it. Maybe once Howard and Donovan (from abroad they seem like the first American footballers to get much attention at home) retire they'll take over.
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 05:53:18 AM
I thought I had done the same. :hmm:
You're still ahead one point. Well done!
Celedhring has so far: 0-0-11. Which must be some kind of record.
Quote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 06:06:12 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 05:53:18 AM
I thought I had done the same. :hmm:
You're still ahead one point. Well done!
Celedhring has so far: 0-0-11. Which must be some kind of record.
If you look at the Picks matrix you can see he hasn't chosen any picks. Luckily, otherwise he would have to be mental.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2014, 06:03:22 AMQuote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PMWe have American commentators for American football. But also I think it's not the main 'national' sport so it's not much odder than us having Aussies commentating on the cricket. And, perhaps, there's not enough prominent retired/old/available American footballers to do it. Maybe once Howard and Donovan (from abroad they seem like the first American footballers to get much attention at home) retire they'll take over.
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 15, 2014, 03:57:11 PM
Distinct absence of French surnames on the team. So with the absence of the very French Ribbery, this team's Frenchiness is only 50% of the previous team's.
Benzema is what, an Arab name?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 15, 2014, 10:37:09 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 15, 2014, 09:59:02 PMQuote from: Tyr on June 15, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
I find it very unusual (but good for me) that American coverage of footy always has british commentators.
Why is this? Does it not put off American viewers?
You miss a key demographic feature of American soccer fans. For a lot of them a big thing is about being international and not just some American rube focused on American centric things like baseball, american football, and bombing 3rd world countries.
If you read articles for American soccer fans, you will often see some british / non american phrases too and references to just how important it all is in some other country. The point is to keep feeding that part of the audience what they want to hear: you are now on some plane above a narrow american perspective--you have progressed into the global community.
Yeah I think there is an element of that. To Americans who weren't brought up in the game but want to get into it, there's definitely a bit of "learning the language and culture" of the sport, and that can be an appealing aspect by itself.
Quote from: celedhring on June 16, 2014, 07:43:09 AMQuote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 06:06:12 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 05:53:18 AM
I thought I had done the same. :hmm:
You're still ahead one point. Well done!
Celedhring has so far: 0-0-11. Which must be some kind of record.
If you look at the Picks matrix you can see he hasn't chosen any picks. Luckily, otherwise he would have to be mental.
Huh? I did make picks.
Guess they didn't get saved :(
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
I want someone to make Ronaldo cry.
Quote from: Josephus on June 16, 2014, 09:00:23 AMQuote from: celedhring on June 16, 2014, 07:43:09 AMQuote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 06:06:12 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 05:53:18 AM
I thought I had done the same. :hmm:
You're still ahead one point. Well done!
Celedhring has so far: 0-0-11. Which must be some kind of record.
If you look at the Picks matrix you can see he hasn't chosen any picks. Luckily, otherwise he would have to be mental.
Huh? I did make picks.
Guess they didn't get saved :(
You need to press "Send" picks or something like that.
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 10:50:52 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
I want someone to make Ronaldo cry.
Germany lack those hardmen they used to have. Like Kohler and Briegel. Now they actually play football. <_<
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 16, 2014, 11:12:50 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 10:50:52 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
I want someone to make Ronaldo cry.
Germany lack those hardmen they used to have. Like Kohler and Briegel. Now they actually play football. <_<
Such players would be sent off with a red card within 5 min today.
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
A rather doubtful red in my opinion.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 16, 2014, 11:45:12 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
A rather doubtful red in my opinion.
Unsportsmanlike conduct.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 11:45:30 AM
He is out for the USA match. :yeah:
Quote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Also, Mereiles looks like a Warhammer dwarf with his beard and mohawk.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 16, 2014, 12:09:06 PMQuote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Also, Mereiles looks like a Warhammer dwarf with his beard and mohawk.
Yeah, so cool.
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 12:11:28 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 16, 2014, 12:09:06 PMQuote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Also, Mereiles looks like a Warhammer dwarf with his beard and mohawk.
Yeah, so cool.
:shutup:
Quote from: Zanza on June 16, 2014, 09:58:53 AM
I think Germany will copy Spain today... :ph34r:
Quote from: HVC on June 16, 2014, 12:37:21 PM
Don't like the ref. Pepe's an idiot. First goal shouldn't have been a penalty
Quote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
That probably should've been a penalty, but what does it matter?
Quote from: Josephus on June 16, 2014, 01:59:25 PM
Iran Nigeria.
I'm already bored...and we haven't gotten to the anthems yet
Quote from: derspiess on June 16, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
So much action. So many shots :zzz
Quote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
Hopefully the Ghana game will be a delicious midnight snack.
QuoteThe difference between the two teams – both shot through with continental stars – is that the Germans play as a group. The Portuguese play like 11 guys who just met 10 minutes before the start of the game, and quickly decided they don't like each other very much.
Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PMjealousy <_< :D
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2014, 03:28:37 PMall I fight for is the proper use of ethnic slurs :contract:Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Clearly HVC's continuing mission to fight anti-Portugueseism has hit a snag.
Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Quote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 03:45:24 PMQuote from: Barrister on June 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Why all the Portuguese hate? :huh:
Oh, and Mereiles flipping the ref after a correct call. All around asshattery.
Quote from: Zanza on June 16, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzn1PmwCVzY
Pepe when he is really pissed off. Müller can be happy....
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 04:15:19 PM
Go Ghana.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 04:15:19 PMI'm more or less going to bed. But yes :w00t:
Go Ghana.
Quote from: Zanza on June 16, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzn1PmwCVzY
Pepe when he is really pissed off. Müller can be happy....
Quote from: Liep on June 16, 2014, 04:20:36 PMQuote from: Zanza on June 16, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzn1PmwCVzY
Pepe when he is really pissed off. Müller can be happy....
How he's still allowed to play football is beyond me.
QuoteGOALSHOT! France are a river of soccer wetness right now, sweeping away Hondurass with their real nice soccer plays. In Seine soccer.
QuoteBEN ZEMA INSERTS! The French are up, and a major felony card is shown to Winston Palacios. #soccer #saylavie
QuoteEQUALIZATION! The cross pass from Rooney is kicked into the SGI by Stowage. The Queen just got saved. #threelines
Quote from: Agelastus on June 16, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Crud...I'm going to end the day in last place in the Languish League at this rate. :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
I'd pay money to see a US player break Pepe's femur after a cheap shot.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
I'd pay money to see a US player break Pepe's femur after a cheap shot.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
Yooess crummy at holding on to the ball. But thank God they ditched the Waldo outfits.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 16, 2014, 06:11:10 PM
Is this a reference to the Pepe-Real-Madrid-style "challenge" by Jones to a Ghana player during the first half?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 06:20:29 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 16, 2014, 06:11:10 PM
Is this a reference to the Pepe-Real-Madrid-style "challenge" by Jones to a Ghana player during the first half?
No, and I don't know what you're talking about.
Quote from: HVC on June 16, 2014, 06:20:52 PM
America isn't playing that convincingly. If Portugal wasn't missing a quarter of their top line they might of beat them
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 06:48:16 PMsee what you did
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: HVC on June 16, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
come on, stay tied.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 16, 2014, 06:54:50 PMfoi ed!Quote from: HVC on June 16, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
come on, stay tied.
Para a próxima, fica calado, está bem? :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 06:48:16 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Very lucky result. I saw about five very good chances for Ghana in the 2nd half.
QuoteCOMPLETION WHISTLE! The victory points are America's as they thrash Ghana Soccer Club 2 to 1. #usa #soccer
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 16, 2014, 07:18:47 PM
The look on Brooks' face when he scored was priceless. :cry:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2014, 04:26:47 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 04:15:19 PMI'm more or less going to bed. But yes :w00t:
Go Ghana.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 16, 2014, 07:18:47 PM
The look on Brooks' face when he scored was priceless. :cry:
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 07:39:04 PM
I will repeat this; possession means nothing unless it's turned into goals. When you're 1-0 or 2-0 up, you'll want possession. Until then, it means little until you score.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Very lucky result. I saw about five very good chances for Ghana in the 2nd half.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2014, 07:01:51 PM
Lol, 10 minutes ago, I was like Fuck this silly ass sport. 5 minutes later, USA USA USA
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 08:44:04 PMQuote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2014, 07:01:51 PM
Lol, 10 minutes ago, I was like Fuck this silly ass sport. 5 minutes later, USA USA USA
Typical. You call them Eurofags one minute and switch sides faster than Italy.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
Who said anything about style? :huh:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:45:35 PM
You did. You commented that it was a lucky result. That seems to imply we didn't get too many style points from the Korean-American judges. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2014, 08:51:00 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:45:35 PM
You did. You commented that it was a lucky result. That seems to imply we didn't get too many style points from the Korean-American judges. :P
:unsure:
Style doesn't boost your chances of scoring goals; quality shots do.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
The Ghana voodoo medicine man got on my nerves, too. Probably gets ethnically cleansed the moment his ass gets back home.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:55:29 PM
I think a 2-1 win where you controlled the game and had a number of quality shots would be considered stylish, while a lucky win is not.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 16, 2014, 08:57:47 PM
For me, 1 point out of this group would have met my expectations in this tournament. 3 points now is fucking supreme allied victory and anything that happens now is just gravy.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:55:29 PM
I think a 2-1 win where you controlled the game and had a number of quality shots would be considered stylish, while a lucky win is not.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 16, 2014, 09:16:08 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:55:29 PM
I think a 2-1 win where you controlled the game and had a number of quality shots would be considered stylish, while a lucky win is not.
They didn't control the game, the US goalie had way more activity than the Ghanaian one.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
:secret: That was my point.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 16, 2014, 09:43:32 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
:secret: That was my point.
So you were actually agreeing with Yi while sounding like you were arguing against him? How grumbleresque. :hmm:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 10:20:12 PMGood god, do I look like a masochist?
DG is preparing to cheer for his Russian team.
Quote from: DGuller on June 16, 2014, 10:24:31 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 10:20:12 PMGood god, do I look like a masochist?
DG is preparing to cheer for his Russian team.
Quote from: DGuller on June 16, 2014, 10:24:31 PMYou expect Korea to win?Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 10:20:12 PMGood god, do I look like a masochist?
DG is preparing to cheer for his Russian team.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 16, 2014, 10:52:29 PMWell, they're not Russia, and they're playing against Russia. That's two things going for them.Quote from: DGuller on June 16, 2014, 10:24:31 PMYou expect Korea to win?Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 10:20:12 PMGood god, do I look like a masochist?
DG is preparing to cheer for his Russian team.
QuoteHot Shot: Croatian World Cup Team Bonds Naked in Hot Tub
The World Cup gives us so many wonderful moments: shirtless hugs, tender butt-pats, post-GOOOOOOAL facial expressions that are so joyous they could be mistaken for orgasmic ecstasy. So far, the best moment of the 2014 World Cup goes to the Croatian team. After losing to Brazil, the players took a nice, relaxing hot tub in the buff, because only winners get to wear swim trunks.
Also, major thanks to the creep-shotographer for leaving all the foliage in the frame. This way, viewers feel as if they are also hiding in the bushes, spying on the Croatians in all their naked, homoerotic glory.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 16, 2014, 08:43:55 PM
The US was the favorite in this game, and I noticed in the pool that as many people picked Ghana as the US. In particular, I think dps should report for deportation, and for picking a draw funkmonk is on the watchlist. :P
Also, it seems Viking picked a hell of a time to not pick the favorite to win the game. :yeah:
Quote from: celedhring on June 17, 2014, 03:52:33 AM
She's lost lot of weight.
Quote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
I have no reason to doubt her enthusiasm for Das Mannschaft, and even as someone on the left, I have a lot of time for Merkel.
Quote from: celedhring on June 17, 2014, 04:21:31 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
I have no reason to doubt her enthusiasm for Das Mannschaft, and even as someone on the left, I have a lot of time for Merkel.
Die.
Yes, word genders are evil.
Quote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:19:43 AM
I am starting to think Hollande shagged your girlfriend or something.
Quote from: Zanza on June 17, 2014, 03:12:10 AM
Awkward...
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusatftw.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F06%2Fangie.jpg&hash=4b12061575aa2b747c31183e66e5cddf4ecd40cf)
Quote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:34:13 AMQuote from: celedhring on June 17, 2014, 04:21:31 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
I have no reason to doubt her enthusiasm for Das Mannschaft, and even as someone on the left, I have a lot of time for Merkel.
Die.
Yes, word genders are evil.
Die Mannschaft. And to think I was actually taught German at school. I am better at reading it, thankfully.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 17, 2014, 05:06:16 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 04:19:43 AM
I am starting to think Hollande shagged your girlfriend or something.
Indeed, the ones who voted for him feel they were screwed, but since I was not part of them it does not apply. You might want to check his current popularity.
Is Hollande a sacred cow of the scandiweenie social-democrats now or what? Your team did not make to the WC while even the likes of Portugal managed to do it so you're bitter or what?
Quote from: Tamas on June 17, 2014, 05:55:21 AM
Today is bound to be very boring I think.
Quote from: Tamas on June 17, 2014, 05:55:21 AM
Today is bound to be very boring I think.
Quote from: The Larch on June 17, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
I'm actually curious to see Belgium in action, after being labelled as a potential dark horse.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 17, 2014, 01:45:03 AM
http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/06/37-reasons-why-andrea-pirlo-is-the-worlds-greatest-living-human-man/ (http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/06/37-reasons-why-andrea-pirlo-is-the-worlds-greatest-living-human-man/)
:lol:
L.
Quote from: The Larch on June 17, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
I'm actually curious to see Belgium in action, after being labelled as a potential dark horse.
Quote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
By the way, look up @usasoccerguy on Twatter.
Best thing since the microwave. Ayrooney for the win.
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2014, 06:14:28 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 17, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
I'm actually curious to see Belgium in action, after being labelled as a potential dark horse.
Yes, but against Algeria it will be hard to tell how good they really are.
Unless they struggle, of course.
Quote from: PDH on June 17, 2014, 11:26:10 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
By the way, look up @usasoccerguy on Twatter.
Best thing since the microwave. Ayrooney for the win.
He is a fan of your team!
Quote from: celedhring on June 17, 2014, 11:41:39 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 17, 2014, 06:14:28 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 17, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
I'm actually curious to see Belgium in action, after being labelled as a potential dark horse.
Yes, but against Algeria it will be hard to tell how good they really are.
Unless they struggle, of course.
Well...
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2014, 12:12:12 PMQuote from: celedhring on June 17, 2014, 11:41:39 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 17, 2014, 06:14:28 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 17, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
I'm actually curious to see Belgium in action, after being labelled as a potential dark horse.
Yes, but against Algeria it will be hard to tell how good they really are.
Unless they struggle, of course.
Well...
Bloody hell :lol:
This could be the second one everybody gets wrong in the pool.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 17, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
What's wrong with the referee? He's supposed to give a penalty kick to Brazil whenever they fall down in the penalty area.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 17, 2014, 03:56:16 PMDidn't see a single mistake. He was quite willing to let the game go on too on small things, which is good.
Best refereeing since the beginning of the tournament?
Quote from: Agelastus on June 17, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
OH FFS...a draw... :mad:
Still, I would imagine I'm not the only one who didn't see this coming.
Quote from: Zanza on June 17, 2014, 03:57:33 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 17, 2014, 03:56:16 PMDidn't see a single mistake. He was quite willing to let the game go on too on small things, which is good.
Best refereeing since the beginning of the tournament?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 17, 2014, 03:56:45 PMThey certainly didn't look invincible. If Spain for example comes back and is second in group B, they could well win over Brazil in the round of sixteen. If Italy somehow only comes second in their group, they would win over this Brazil team in the quarter final...
Brazil are really really bad. Won't get past the round of 16.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 17, 2014, 03:59:42 PM
Also this Mexican team is light years better than it was a year ago. Good on them.
CONCACAF providing strong evidence that is indeed the greatest of all the confederations.
Quote from: derspiess on June 17, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
:nelson: @ Beeb. ¡Viva México!
Quote from: Barrister on June 17, 2014, 04:06:27 PMQuote from: derspiess on June 17, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
:nelson: @ Beeb. ¡Viva México!
:huh:
If I understand it a tie for Brazil is almost as good (since they've already beat Croatia).
Quote from: Zanza on June 17, 2014, 03:59:51 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 17, 2014, 03:56:45 PMThey certainly didn't look invincible. If Spain for example comes back and is second in group B, they could well win over Brazil in the round of sixteen. If Italy somehow only comes second in their group, they would win over this Brazil team in the quarter final...
Brazil are really really bad. Won't get past the round of 16.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 17, 2014, 04:20:00 PMHmm. First of all, we haven't won the group yet although we are halfway there I guess.
While Germany will have an easy ride until the semifinal at least.
Quote from: Zanza on June 17, 2014, 04:08:23 PM
Is Fred really international class? He seemed very weak today, losing lots and lots of balls. He doesn't play in Europe, which is usually not a good sign either.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 17, 2014, 04:51:47 PM
You thought Argentina looked very good? :hmm:
QuoteI do however get a chuckle each time Zhurkov touches the ball. ^_^Also Shatoff.
Quote from: Liep on June 17, 2014, 05:52:07 PMApparently Capello's picked an old team (:o) which may not be the right choice four years before hosting.
Russia is much worse than I thought. No new Arshavin. :weep:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 17, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
I quite like South Korea here. I hope they win.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 17, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
Also Shatoff.
Quote from: Liep on June 17, 2014, 06:30:48 PMFrom both sides.
That's the fourth or fifth time he can't hold on to a relatively weak shot. Horrible goalkeeping.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 17, 2014, 06:37:26 PMQuote from: Liep on June 17, 2014, 06:30:48 PMFrom both sides.
That's the fourth or fifth time he can't hold on to a relatively weak shot. Horrible goalkeeping.
I expect a BBC rant about keepers punching the ball in 5, 4...
Quote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 06:44:27 PMThey mentioned him a lot today. See also:
Remind them that the best save ever was by Banks vs Pele, and that Banks didn't hold Pele's header.
Quote from: Liep on June 17, 2014, 06:56:07 PM
Iran -Nigeria, or this. Which was worse? Russia disappointed me more than Nigeria.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 17, 2014, 06:57:51 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 06:44:27 PMThey mentioned him a lot today. See also:
Remind them that the best save ever was by Banks vs Pele, and that Banks didn't hold Pele's header.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&q=gordon+banks&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=gordon+banks&tbm=nws
:lol:
Quote from: Zanza on June 17, 2014, 04:08:23 PM
Is Fred really international class? He seemed very weak today, losing lots and lots of balls. He doesn't play in Europe, which is usually not a good sign either.
Quote from: Tyr on June 18, 2014, 02:57:24 AM
Have there been any games worth watching?
I've only seen a replay of the England and Brazil games so far. So freaking inconvenient. Damn you Americas
Quote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 05:03:43 AM
We play for our lives tonight against Chile. Nail biting is saying little about how the game will be. :ph34r:
QuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Tisco
2
Quote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 05:03:43 AM
We play for our lives tonight against Chile. Nail biting is saying little about how the game will be. :ph34r:
Quote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 05:17:54 AM
http://www.minimalsworld.net/BrazilName/brazilian.shtmlQuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Tisco
2
#2, guess that puts me in defense. :menace:
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:25:20 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 05:03:43 AM
We play for our lives tonight against Chile. Nail biting is saying little about how the game will be. :ph34r:
Thomas the Hamster (named after Thomas Häßler) is predicting an early goal to Chile with a final result of 2-1 to Chile.
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:25:20 AM
Thomas the Hamster (named after Thomas Häßler)
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:29:40 AMQuote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 05:17:54 AM
http://www.minimalsworld.net/BrazilName/brazilian.shtmlQuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Tisco
2
#2, guess that puts me in defense. :menace:
#6 Lieta. Defensive midfielder. :menace:
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:25:20 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 05:03:43 AM
We play for our lives tonight against Chile. Nail biting is saying little about how the game will be. :ph34r:
Thomas the Hamster (named after Thomas Häßler) is predicting an early goal to Chile with a final result of 2-1 to Chile.
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:29:40 AMQuote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 05:17:54 AM
http://www.minimalsworld.net/BrazilName/brazilian.shtmlQuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Tisco
2
#2, guess that puts me in defense. :menace:
#6 Lieta. Defensive midfielder. :menace:
QuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Telmico
#2
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 07:15:18 AM
If Valmy was an animal, what animal would he be?
Quote from: PDH on June 18, 2014, 07:09:47 AM
Who does Valmy pick?
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2014, 08:09:25 AMQuote from: PDH on June 18, 2014, 07:09:47 AM
Who does Valmy pick?
Chile. They shall liberate the soccer world from the tyranny of Spain like they liberated themselves from the tyranny of Communism in 1973.
Quote from: Josephus on June 18, 2014, 08:50:27 AMMan, celedhring really needs to pick it up in the next round.
1 Norgy 12 12 5 70.59% *
2 Viking 12 12 5 70.59% *
3 frunk 11 11 6 64.71% *
4 Josephus 10 10 7 58.82% *
5 Liep 10 10 7 58.82% *
6 Maladict 10 10 7 58.82% *
7 Duque de Bragança 9 9 8 52.94% *
8 funkmonk 9 9 8 52.94% *
9 josquius 9 9 8 52.94% *
10 Pedrito 9 9 8 52.94% *
11 Dorsey4Heisman 8 8 9 47.06% *
12 Syt 8 8 9 47.06% *
13 Tamas 8 8 9 47.06% *
14 Agelastus 7 7 10 41.18% *
15 dps 7 7 10 41.18% *
16 celedhring 0 0 17 0.00% *
Quote from: Josephus on June 18, 2014, 08:50:27 AM
1 Norgy 12 12 5 70.59% *
2 Viking 12 12 5 70.59% *
3 frunk 11 11 6 64.71% *
4 Josephus 10 10 7 58.82% *
5 Liep 10 10 7 58.82% *
6 Maladict 10 10 7 58.82% *
7 Duque de Bragança 9 9 8 52.94% *
8 funkmonk 9 9 8 52.94% *
9 josquius 9 9 8 52.94% *
10 Pedrito 9 9 8 52.94% *
11 Dorsey4Heisman 8 8 9 47.06% *
12 Syt 8 8 9 47.06% *
13 Tamas 8 8 9 47.06% *
14 Agelastus 7 7 10 41.18% *
15 dps 7 7 10 41.18% *
16 celedhring 0 0 17 0.00% *
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:29:40 AMQuote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 05:17:54 AM
http://www.minimalsworld.net/BrazilName/brazilian.shtmlQuoteIf you played for Brazil your nickname would be...
Tisco
2
#2, guess that puts me in defense. :menace:
#6 Lieta. Defensive midfielder. :menace:
Quote from: Pedrito on June 18, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
Pizzão
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 11:06:32 AMhttp://gfycat.com/SentimentalPleasingJellyfish
I love the introductory turning of heads and crossing of arms. It's so ridiculous it's good.
Quote from: Josephus on June 18, 2014, 12:03:29 PM
so two yellows and you get a suspension? Looks like Cahill misses game v. Spain
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
Yes, RvP! Fuck you, Tony Abbott-voting shitheads!
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 18, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
Awesome game. Why can't it always be like this? Why must we suffer Italian/Greek soccer?!
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 12:24:33 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 18, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
Awesome game. Why can't it always be like this? Why must we suffer Italian/Greek soccer?!
Because defense wins championships, and neither of these teams can compete this WC.
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
And there are no goalkeepers left, it seems. :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2014, 01:19:45 PM
What was the result? :mad:
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 01:21:22 PMMaybe it should always be in South America.
This is the best World Cup I've ever seen.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 18, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
Maybe it should always be in South America.
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
Force FIFA to spend its billions in cash reserve on hosting it in Argentina instead of Qatar in 2022 as a penalty for the way too obvious corruption.
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2014, 01:32:51 PMQuote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
Force FIFA to spend its billions in cash reserve on hosting it in Argentina instead of Qatar in 2022 as a penalty for the way too obvious corruption.
Who would be doing the forcing here?
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2014, 01:30:08 PMThat would be great. As it is racist and homophobic abuse will be to 2018 what the vuvuzela was last time.Quote from: Sheilbh on June 18, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
Maybe it should always be in South America.
I am sure Chile would be delighted to spend billions to host this thing.
QuoteForce FIFA to spend its billions in cash reserve on hosting it in Argentina instead of Qatar in 2022 as a penalty for the way too obvious corruption.I wish Australia got 2022. Football's like their 5th favourite sport but they love sport so much I think they'd make it very enjoyable.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2014, 01:37:23 PM
Is this the first time FIFA is running commercials for itself? I've never noticed them before.
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
Yes, really good games all around. Looking forward to Spain - Chile now. :)
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 18, 2014, 01:34:39 PM
2022 will probably see an extremely sweaty Englishman die on a pitch built over the bones of slaves.
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 01:40:10 PMThe worst thing about Qatar is that it's so far away we wouldn't even get to see Wayne Rooney playing in a desert :(
Sadly, this gave me a chuckle. :Embarrass:
QuoteThe FIFA is anything but modest.Quite:
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 01:45:35 PM
Speaking of imodesty and adding insult to injury: From Germany with Löw.
https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/180546FC151090381039542894592_27ffed36f69.0.4.3501375300838403401.mp4?versionId=LeREDtVUY.NkpRGEoI2jLf_44WTnpA.Z
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 18, 2014, 01:42:24 PM
The worst thing about Qatar is that it's so far away we wouldn't even get to see Wayne Rooney playing in a desert :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2014, 02:14:56 PM
Norgy is such a hard cunt. :P
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 02:28:57 PMThe Ghana Witch Doctor placed his curse.
Anyone else heard that Ronaldo is out for the tournament wit a knee injury?
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
Anyone else heard that Ronaldo is out for the tournament wit a knee injury?
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 02:35:26 PMIt may also make watching the World Cup on holiday in Spain less enjoyable.
If this result stands, it will screw up my joint lead in the pool. :mad:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 18, 2014, 02:45:02 PM
A commentator just suggested Torres may help.
Christ :blink:
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 02:48:16 PMChelsea'll happily spend £30 million to find out :lol:
He can hardly be worse than Costa.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
RESULTS?!! :ultra:
Help a brother out. I'm at work with no feed.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
RESULTS?!! :ultra:
Help a brother out. I'm at work with no feed.
Quote from: derspiess on June 18, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
So has Google ever done a doodle for the World Series or Super Bowl? :mellow:
Quote from: The Larch on June 06, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
We're also unsure about Diego Costa.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 18, 2014, 03:23:29 PMQuote from: derspiess on June 18, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
So has Google ever done a doodle for the World Series or Super Bowl? :mellow:
No. It only does doodle for International Sport competitions.
You can see them all here, http://www.google.com/doodles#archive Not all show up in your country tho.
Quote from: Tamas on June 18, 2014, 03:51:13 PM:lol:
Torres is utterly useless. I am glad Chelsea is spending 30 million quids to replace him with Diego Costa.
Quote from: PRC on June 18, 2014, 03:35:12 PMSuperbowl and World Series are just regional events that don't have the same global reach as the World Cup. That's visible in Google's search trends as well:
Is it an international sport competition if the Blue Jays make the World Series? What about any Canadian NHL team versus an American team?
QuoteEven when they're two goals away from being knocked out Spain are still allergic to shooting.Yep. Or just trying to get it in the box :mellow:
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 04:01:32 PMRevolution!
And it's bye, bye to Spain! At least you have other stuff to celebrate. Like, you know, a new king and knee-deep debt.
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
So which players of Spain's golden generation will retire now?
I guess Casillas, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Villa. Perhaps Torres, Iniesta...
Quote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Still, Spain had a great run, winning three big tournaments in a row (Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012). Only European Champions to defend the title. A team for the ages and to be immortalized in legend and song.
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2014, 02:29:37 PM
Hurrah for the Country with sorta the same flag as Texas!
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
So which players of Spain's golden generation will retire now?
I guess Casillas, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Villa. Perhaps Torres, Iniesta...
Quote from: Maladict on June 18, 2014, 04:40:12 PMQuote from: Syt on June 18, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Still, Spain had a great run, winning three big tournaments in a row (Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012). Only European Champions to defend the title. A team for the ages and to be immortalized in legend and song.
True. This year's results will be forgotten soon enough.
Quote from: Maladict on June 18, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
None of you picked Chile to win this? Really?
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 05:06:40 PMQuote from: Maladict on June 18, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
None of you picked Chile to win this? Really?
I couldn't imagine it when I made my picks. Still ahead of you in the pool, though. :bowler:
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 05:06:40 PMQuote from: Maladict on June 18, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
None of you picked Chile to win this? Really?
I couldn't imagine it when I made my picks. Still ahead of you in the pool, though. :bowler:
Quote from: Norgy on June 18, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
For Yi:
Ustashe 1 Former German Colony 0
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
Song. :lol:
That was almost Pepe-esque.
Quote from: PRC on June 18, 2014, 03:35:12 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 18, 2014, 03:23:29 PMQuote from: derspiess on June 18, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
So has Google ever done a doodle for the World Series or Super Bowl? :mellow:
No. It only does doodle for International Sport competitions.
You can see them all here, http://www.google.com/doodles#archive Not all show up in your country tho.
Is it an international sport competition if the Blue Jays make the World Series? What about any Canadian NHL team versus an American team?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 05:50:34 PMAny ideas on who is going to replace del Bosque?
Quote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 05:50:34 PMAny ideas on who is going to replace del Bosque?
It's a total blank, nobody expected this kind of meltdown. I believe he still has 2 more years in his contract, but I can't see him continuing after our ludicrous display.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 18, 2014, 08:24:52 PMQuote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 05:50:34 PMAny ideas on who is going to replace del Bosque?
It's a total blank, nobody expected this kind of meltdown. I believe he still has 2 more years in his contract, but I can't see him continuing after our ludicrous display.
I know the team is getting older, but is it really called for to blow the whole thing up? Spain did well in qualifying and was considered a favorite. The team only really has 90 minutes of poor play against 2 strong sides (the 2nd half against Netherlands, the 1st half against Chile).
Quote from: alfred russel on June 18, 2014, 08:24:52 PMQuote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 05:50:34 PMAny ideas on who is going to replace del Bosque?
It's a total blank, nobody expected this kind of meltdown. I believe he still has 2 more years in his contract, but I can't see him continuing after our ludicrous display.
I know the team is getting older, but is it really called for to blow the whole thing up? Spain did well in qualifying and was considered a favorite. The team only really has 90 minutes of poor play against 2 strong sides (the 2nd half against Netherlands, the 1st half against Chile).
Quote from: Josephus on June 18, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
Not a good world cup for African nations either...there time has passed.
Quote
Brazil's Olympic Challenge
By Bill Neely
The World Cup is well underway and Brazil is worried. Not by the possibility that the unfinished stadiums might collapse, or that protesters might storm them or train drivers might refuse to take fans to them. No -- it's the performance of the national soccer team that has the country on edge. With a win and a tie so far, the performance of the team has been way below what Brazilians expect.
What no one is even remotely concerned about now is a far bigger crisis looming in Brazil's future: In just over two-years' time, Brazil will host the world's other great sporting festival, the Olympic Games.
The country is not even remotely ready.
Rio's Looming Crisis: Preparing for the Olympics
Nightly News
The International Olympic Committee is worried; its vice president, John Coates, called Brazil's preparations "the worst ever." The committee has taken the unprecedented step of sending experts to the host city Rio de Janeiro to help. "Rio," Coates said, "is behind in many, many ways."
In a rare show of open criticism against an Olympic host city, 18 international sports federations publicly aired concerns that Rio's venues won't be ready. In a typical show of defiance, Rio's Mayor Eduardo Paes accused the federations of making too many "unnecessary demands."
So, does Rio not get it?
The evidence on the ground suggests it doesn't.
The Olympic venues are way behind schedule; work on some hasn't even begun.
At the main Olympic site, construction has been delayed. Strikes by construction workers has slowed work and, seen from the air, the lack of progress is glaring. One large steel structure, the Broadcasting Center, is visible. The rest of the site is a sea of mud.
Nearby, what should be the golf course is simply a large brown field. No grass is visible, no progress evident for the return of a sport that's been missing from the Olympics for a century. At this rate, it will be missing again -- new courses are notoriously difficult to bed in.
But it's the second biggest site that is causing most alarm.
We drove around the Deodoro district on the edge of Rio for an hour, asking residents where the Olympic site was. Nobody knew. And no wonder. There is not a single sign that the world's greatest multi-sports festival will start here in 2016. No construction. No Olympic rings. Nothing.
We eventually found a polo field and a clue. On a map provided by Olympic organizers, it did appear that this is where pentathlon and equestrian events will take place.
But the area currently looks like a riding stable in a small town. Eight Olympic sports, including shooting, hockey, and fencing are due to be held at Deodoro. But the federal government has handed responsibility for construction to the state, which handed it to the city.
And then there's the mess of Rio's Olympic Bay.
"It's best described as a sea of sewage," said Leona Deckelbaum, as we hold our noses on a boat in Guanabara Bay. She is an environmental campaigner who lives by the bay she loves and smells every day. "So much of the waste of Rio pours into the bay every day untreated," she said. "Thousands of gallons an hour. And nothing the city has done has helped clean this place up. It's not just disgusting, it's frightening."
On environmental grounds alone you might think Rio's authorities might care enough to solve this issue. But in two-years' time, Olympic sailors and windsurfers are meant to compete for medals here. As we sail around a picturesque bay, we come across sewage, oil and vast amounts of plastic and trash. One Brazilian Olympic sailor, Lars Grael, has come across human corpses on four occasions. His brother, Torben, an Olympic gold medalist, said boats are now so aerodynamic that one large plastic bag can slow a sailor dramatically.
"The amount of garbage we have is a very big problem," he said. "We cannot have an Olympic medal decided by who gets less garbage."
In one area of Rio, construction is impressive. The Olympic village where athletes will stay is well underway, but it is being built with private money. Politicians and bureaucrats have nothing to do with the site. Everywhere else, federal, state and city officials are making little progress; one Olympic official said dealing with them is "hell."
Concerns and costs are rising. In April, the estimated cost of the Games rose again, from $12 billion to $15.5 billion. You can expect them to rise again, faster than the stadiums that are meant to host the events. Rio had to demolish the cycling venue it hoped would be good enough for the Games because it failed to meet Olympic standards. The new one will cost 10 times more.
Brazil seemed to recently show a sign that it might, finally, be getting the message. Aldo Rebelo, the country's sports minister, said Brazil has been too slow getting ready for Rio 2016 and should have been better prepared for the World Cup. Brazil's defiance might be a slap in the face of mounting evidence and anger. Rio's mayor, who assured me in February that he could "100 percent guarantee" the city will be ready for the Games, now says he's "pretty sure" they'll deliver them on time.
Brazil is the first South American country to be chosen to stage the Games. It believed that its time had come as a big and important country when it was chosen as a host. Time is now running out for Brazil to prove it deserves the responsibility it has been handed. The International Olympic Committee told Rio at the start of the year it didn't have a day to lose. Rio has lost plenty of days since then. The clock is ticking.
Quote from: Josephus on June 18, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
Not a good world cup for African nations either...there time has passed.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 18, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
I am a bit worried about Ivory Coast. They got 3 points from Japan.
Quote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Italy in New York? What a surprise.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 09:24:26 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 18, 2014, 08:24:52 PMQuote from: The Larch on June 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 18, 2014, 05:50:34 PMAny ideas on who is going to replace del Bosque?
It's a total blank, nobody expected this kind of meltdown. I believe he still has 2 more years in his contract, but I can't see him continuing after our ludicrous display.
I know the team is getting older, but is it really called for to blow the whole thing up? Spain did well in qualifying and was considered a favorite. The team only really has 90 minutes of poor play against 2 strong sides (the 2nd half against Netherlands, the 1st half against Chile).
Yes.
Spain looked tired, slow, bereft of ideas, unmotivated. While the rest of the world has gradually caught up, Spain sat on its supposed dominance of the international game and did little to evolve to the new challenges surfacing. Del Bosque shoulders a lot of the blame for a debacle of this magnitude.
Quote from: The Larch on June 19, 2014, 06:57:42 AMI believe in Jersey Ronaldo is considered a 'style icon'.Quote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Italy in New York? What a surprise.
But New Jersey went with Portugal... :hmm:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 19, 2014, 07:12:30 AM:mad:Quote from: The Larch on June 19, 2014, 06:57:42 AMI believe in Jersey Ronaldo is considered a 'style icon'.Quote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Italy in New York? What a surprise.
But New Jersey went with Portugal... :hmm:
Quote from: The Larch on June 19, 2014, 06:57:42 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Italy in New York? What a surprise.
But New Jersey went with Portugal... :hmm:
Quote from: Zanza on June 19, 2014, 04:51:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqdKJePIMAAYrIp.jpg)
Most popular shirt by state excluding Mexican and US shirts.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 19, 2014, 08:46:43 AM
The Polacks in Indiana would have bought the polack jersey, but they were too busy getting their heads stuck in pickle jars.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
I noticed a McDonald's commerical where it is rather obviously supposed to be a family/set of friends watching the world cup--some supporting the US, and some Mexico. Only the Mexican supporters didn't have anything explicitly saying "mexico", just green.
Quote from: The Larch on June 19, 2014, 09:42:01 AM
The German jersey I can understand, but the overabundance of the Brazilian one can only be explained by bandwagonism.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 09:32:17 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
I noticed a McDonald's commerical where it is rather obviously supposed to be a family/set of friends watching the world cup--some supporting the US, and some Mexico. Only the Mexican supporters didn't have anything explicitly saying "mexico", just green.
If the old man loves Mexico so much, he ought to go back there :angry:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Not sure I understand why there is so much German. Very few take pride in ethnic German heritage.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:33:35 AM
They're a consistently strong team. And if you're a hipster Euro-loving ball of light wanna-be, you might as well go with Germany.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:33:35 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Not sure I understand why there is so much German. Very few take pride in ethnic German heritage.
They're a consistently strong team. And if you're a hipster Euro-loving ball of light wanna-be, you might as well go with Germany.
Quote from: Warspite on June 19, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
How ironic, because a Euro hipster ball of light wouldn't touch a Germany kit (Chile is the current cool team, though they're becoming less obscure by the game)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 11:15:59 AMQuote from: Warspite on June 19, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
How ironic, because a Euro hipster ball of light wouldn't touch a Germany kit (Chile is the current cool team, though they're becoming less obscure by the game)
I would have thought a Euro hipster wouldn't wear a soccer jersey at all.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 19, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
They don't translate the name of their country. It's always Côte d'Ivoire.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 11:29:46 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 19, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
They don't translate the name of their country. It's always Côte d'Ivoire.
Not their call.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 10:57:27 AM
We have more hipster euro loving balls of light wanna bes than i thought. Et tu, Dakotas? :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 11:29:46 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on June 19, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
They don't translate the name of their country. It's always Côte d'Ivoire.
Not their call.
Quote from: Warspite on June 19, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
How ironic
Quote from: Tamas on June 19, 2014, 11:28:03 AM
Anyways, go Ivory Coast! I have got a whole pound riding on them!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 11:15:59 AMFootball shirts are fine for hipsters, but it only if it is some kind of obscure South American league team or the shirt is from 1982.Quote from: Warspite on June 19, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
How ironic, because a Euro hipster ball of light wouldn't touch a Germany kit (Chile is the current cool team, though they're becoming less obscure by the game)
I would have thought a Euro hipster wouldn't wear a soccer jersey at all.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
This could be the last World Cup for the Queen. Not even God can save her for much longer. One must hope that her country will not give her the same send off that Juan Carlos' country gave him.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
Is it over?
Quote from: Liep on June 19, 2014, 03:24:24 PM
Pereira giving not one shit about the doctor trying to pull him after that huge knock out. :lol:
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 19, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
I'm torn. I'd like it for England to win, but only as long as Rooney doesn't score.
Quote from: Agelastus on June 19, 2014, 03:36:13 PMFuck, fuckity fuck, fuck. Why did it have to be Rooney?Quote from: Hansmeister on June 19, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
I'm torn. I'd like it for England to win, but only as long as Rooney doesn't score.
I assume you're no longer rooting for us then? :P
Quote from: Liep on June 19, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
Rooney scored. :huh: In what was a really nice English play. :huh:
Quote from: Agelastus on June 19, 2014, 03:39:02 PMQuote from: Liep on June 19, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
Rooney scored. :huh: In what was a really nice English play. :huh:
Well, we do have a ration allocation of one of those per World Cup, you know... :D
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 19, 2014, 03:42:53 PM
I'd like Gerrard to score. Then slide tackle somebody hard.
Quote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 03:43:58 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 19, 2014, 03:42:53 PM
I'd like Gerrard to score. Then slide tackle somebody hard.
He's too busy aiming passes at corner flags. As per usual.
Quote from: My wifeIt's hard to score when you stop every two minutes to demonstrate against EU austerity measures.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on June 19, 2014, 05:47:59 PMQuote from: My wifeIt's hard to score when you stop every two minutes to demonstrate against EU austerity measures.
Quote from: Liep on June 19, 2014, 05:45:22 PM
Japan has been trying at least, and with the Greek captain booted it could be a good thrashing.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 19, 2014, 05:36:09 PM:lol:
There's a man on my bus wearing a tux and an England flag. He's playing 'Numb' by the Pet Shop Boys sobbing (or, potentially, quietly heaving).
Quote from: Warspite on June 20, 2014, 04:18:23 AMJoin the Milner bandwagon!
I really don't rate the Gerrard/Henderson midfield pivot, particularly when captain ROY OF TEH ROVERS can't deal with a simple midfield header. I also don't understand what the hell Cahill and Jagielka were doing with Suarez given they know what he can do because he plays in the same league as them.
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 04:28:47 AM
Something is up with the pool. All outcomes of the England game are listed as incorrect.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 20, 2014, 05:23:39 AMQuote from: Warspite on June 20, 2014, 04:18:23 AMJoin the Milner bandwagon!
I really don't rate the Gerrard/Henderson midfield pivot, particularly when captain ROY OF TEH ROVERS can't deal with a simple midfield header. I also don't understand what the hell Cahill and Jagielka were doing with Suarez given they know what he can do because he plays in the same league as them.
After this and the Premiership someone probably should try and lift the gypsy curse on Gerrard at some point.
Quote from: Tamas on June 20, 2014, 05:27:28 AMAgreed.
Or maybe people should realise he isn't that good anymore, and probably was never as good as people thought he was.
Quote from: Norgy on June 19, 2014, 03:41:29 PMAgreed. To that I'd add Barkley, Shaw and Stones.
I'd say this is one of the more exciting England teams I've seen since Italy 1990 and England 1996.
Sterling is good, Lallana, exciting player, Sturridge, well, he's grown into a very fine player.
Come on, Iiiiiiiingerlaaaand!
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 04:28:47 AM
Something is up with the pool. All outcomes of the England game are listed as incorrect.
Quote from: Tamas on June 20, 2014, 05:27:28 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on June 20, 2014, 05:23:39 AMQuote from: Warspite on June 20, 2014, 04:18:23 AMJoin the Milner bandwagon!
I really don't rate the Gerrard/Henderson midfield pivot, particularly when captain ROY OF TEH ROVERS can't deal with a simple midfield header. I also don't understand what the hell Cahill and Jagielka were doing with Suarez given they know what he can do because he plays in the same league as them.
After this and the Premiership someone probably should try and lift the gypsy curse on Gerrard at some point.
Gerrard's been a good player for Liverpool, but his shortcomings defensively are a liability for England. Don't know, maybe he just lacks good cover. His passing is vastly over-rated if you ask me, but at least for Liverpool he plays with passion.
Or maybe people should realise he isn't that good anymore, and probably was never as good as people thought he was.
Lampard to the team!
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2014, 05:26:56 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 04:28:47 AM
Something is up with the pool. All outcomes of the England game are listed as incorrect.
Something yes, but nor for the England game for me. It shows all outcomes as wrong for Japan-Greece.
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 06:40:34 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2014, 05:26:56 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 04:28:47 AM
Something is up with the pool. All outcomes of the England game are listed as incorrect.
Something yes, but nor for the England game for me. It shows all outcomes as wrong for Japan-Greece.
Er, yes, the Japan-Greece game.
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Quote from: Warspite on June 20, 2014, 05:26:04 AM
A really important part of world-class decision making in midfield is when to go for the simple pass, and when to go for the exciting but risky move. Pirlo, Iniesta, Modric etc have this. Gerrard doesn't. That's his problem.
QuoteWhen I was director of football at Real Madrid I had to evaluate the players coming through the youth ranks. We had some who were very good footballers. They had technique, they had athleticism, they had drive, they were hungry. But they lacked what I call knowing-how-to-play-football. They lacked decision making. They lacked positioning. They didn't have the subtle sensitivity of football: how a player should move within the collective. And for many, I wasn't sure they were going to learn.-Arrigo Sacchi
You see, strength, passion, technique, athleticism, all of these are very important. But they are a means to an end, not an end in itself. They help you reach your goal, which is putting your talent at the service of the team and, by doing this, making both of you and the team greater. In situations like that, I just have to say, Gerrard's a great footballer, but perhaps not a great player.
Quote from: Zanza on June 20, 2014, 08:50:06 AM
From the Guardian: "England were the team that wanted to play like Spain and, eventually, they managed it." :lol:
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 20, 2014, 09:47:04 AM
Italy will NOT win. Go CR!
Quote from: Pedrito on June 20, 2014, 09:52:36 AM...and, as expected, the interviewer is 25 minutes late :cry:
FFFFFUUUUU I have a job interview one hour before Italy's match.
I'm ready to completely fluke it to get with the friends in time for the kickoff.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 20, 2014, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Pedrito on June 20, 2014, 09:52:36 AM...and, as expected, the interviewer is 25 minutes late :cry:
FFFFFUUUUU I have a job interview one hour before Italy's match.
I'm ready to completely fluke it to get with the friends in time for the kickoff.
L.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 20, 2014, 10:24:53 AMQuote from: Pedrito on June 20, 2014, 09:52:36 AM...and, as expected, the interviewer is 25 minutes late :cry:
FFFFFUUUUU I have a job interview one hour before Italy's match.
I'm ready to completely fluke it to get with the friends in time for the kickoff.
L.
L.
Quote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 10:35:08 AM
If a CONCACAF team wins the World Cup in my lifetime, I'll walk to Rome.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 20, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
This is a very stereotypical southern european sequence of posts. :P
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2014, 10:38:57 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 10:35:08 AM
If a CONCACAF team wins the World Cup in my lifetime, I'll walk to Rome.
Woah woah there. I would be shocked if any of us finish in the top 4.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 11:33:02 AM
Didn't watch the last England game, but from the first match it seems like they improved on their 2000 tactics of "bomb a long pass to a lone striker and hope he beats two defenders and the goalie by himself."
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2014, 10:38:57 AMQuote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 10:35:08 AM
If a CONCACAF team wins the World Cup in my lifetime, I'll walk to Rome.
Woah woah there. I would be shocked if any of us finish in the top 4.
Quote from: Tamas on June 20, 2014, 11:35:41 AMMy impression as well. They seem to lack a tactical plan.
I think their tactics in the second game was "almost all of us play in decent clubs, we ought to figure this shit out on the fly, right?"
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 11:49:52 AM
Oh wow
Quote from: Tamas on June 20, 2014, 09:38:11 AM
I am a complete degenerate when it comes to gambling, and a bad omen to teams when I bet on them, to let me prove that here are my bets for today:
Italy to win without conceding a goal.
Switzerland and France to draw
Germany to win both halves
Honduras wins the first half but then Ecuador turns it around.
Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
And Tamas has ruined it for the first country with his careless betting spree. :P
Quote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
I find it hard to fathom that at least three of the Costa Rican players were playing in the Norwegian league a few seasons ago.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
Que hora?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
Que hora?
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2014, 01:42:23 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
Que hora?
5 PM central
It sure is nice to have it in this hemisphere. It has been awhile.
Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2014, 01:50:31 PM
Russia's WC will be triumphant. I miss the noon games.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 20, 2014, 01:51:44 PMYekatarinburg, which is 4 hours before CEST.Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2014, 01:50:31 PM
Russia's WC will be triumphant. I miss the noon games.
Will it have Far East venues?
Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
He was offside, all three were. :huh:
Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2014, 02:46:32 PM
Allez les bleus! :frog:
Thanks Tamas.
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2014, 01:04:31 PM
Man lots of pressure on the US to prove it is the best of CONCACAF with Mexico and Costa Rica doing this. Must....beat....Portugal.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
Sunday :bowler:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
What do the rules say about kicking a guy in the face if you're going for the ball? Is the kicker always in the wrong?
Quote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
The interpretation of several rules have become more strict, but let's say someone bends down to head the ball and gets kicked in the face, it would normally not be a foul, as the player is placing himself in harm's way. It'd have to be a fairly deliberate kick towards the head for a card, for instance. More often than not, I see these situations end up with a dropping of the ball (an oddity, but still in the rule book).
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 03:43:53 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
The interpretation of several rules have become more strict, but let's say someone bends down to head the ball and gets kicked in the face, it would normally not be a foul, as the player is placing himself in harm's way. It'd have to be a fairly deliberate kick towards the head for a card, for instance. More often than not, I see these situations end up with a dropping of the ball (an oddity, but still in the rule book).
How about a case in which a player tries a bicycle kick and the defender tries to head the ball away at the same time?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
What do the rules say about kicking a guy in the face if you're going for the ball? Is the kicker always in the wrong?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2014, 03:43:53 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
The interpretation of several rules have become more strict, but let's say someone bends down to head the ball and gets kicked in the face, it would normally not be a foul, as the player is placing himself in harm's way. It'd have to be a fairly deliberate kick towards the head for a card, for instance. More often than not, I see these situations end up with a dropping of the ball (an oddity, but still in the rule book).
How about a case in which a player tries a bicycle kick and the defender tries to head the ball away at the same time?
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 20, 2014, 03:50:02 PM
Awesome game!
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
So the sixth goal was not validated? :huh:
Quote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 04:02:22 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
So the sixth goal was not validated? :huh:
Apparently the ref blows his whistle for full time about when the cross is played. We all know it was six for France as the Swiss certainly hadn't stopped playing.
Quote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 04:02:22 PM
Apparently the ref blows his whistle for full time about when the cross is played. We all know it was six for France as the Swiss certainly hadn't stopped playing.
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 04:29:27 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 20, 2014, 04:02:22 PM
Apparently the ref blows his whistle for full time about when the cross is played. We all know it was six for France as the Swiss certainly hadn't stopped playing.
Before the cross was played, so nowhere near a valid goal.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
Sunday :bowler:
I really hope the US steam rolls Portugal.
Quote from: Josephus on June 20, 2014, 05:37:54 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on June 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
Sunday :bowler:
I really hope the US steam rolls Portugal.
Just hope they'll win...that's not a given.
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
Honduras - Ecuador is a surprisingly fun game.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 06:51:49 AM
Calling it now, England will make the quarter finals in four years.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 06:51:49 AM
Calling it now, England will make the quarter finals in four years.
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2014, 01:12:26 AM
It's pretty fixed. Usually 1st of one group plays 2nd of other group and vice versa.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_cup_2014#Knockout_stage
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 20, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Ah, the France bandwagon such comfort. Much more than the English wagon has ever been.
Also, France has kept the pattern of Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good performance at the WC.
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
There seem to be more Argentinian than Iranian fans... :P
Quote from: Liep on June 21, 2014, 11:28:30 AMQuote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
There seem to be more Argentinian than Iranian fans... :P
If this score lasts, when will they start booing at their team?
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 04:47:35 AM
My wisdom for the day:
Argentina to win both halfs
Germany to win, and to win both halfs
Nigeria to win, because I can't believe the odds are right on giving them little chance.
Quote from: Norgy on June 21, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Iran is looking the better team at the moment. Who'd have thought.
Quote from: Liep on June 21, 2014, 12:49:58 PM:lol:
Wow, great contra football by Iran.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 21, 2014, 01:05:31 PMRocky VI ... dolph lundgren
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2014, 01:07:06 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 21, 2014, 01:05:31 PMRocky VI ... dolph lundgren
:hmm:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 21, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Awesome how 90 minutes of boring ass soccer can transform everyone into Iran supporters (myself included). :D
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
Iran is playing smart. If they would openly attack Argentina, they would lose.
Quote from: Josephus on June 21, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
Human nature to cheer for underdog.
Go Ghana
Quote from: Norgy on June 21, 2014, 02:53:45 PM
Persia or Iran existed before 1979, you know.
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
OH COME ON!
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 03:21:10 PM
The German team looks as tired as Italy yesterday.
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 04:47:35 AM
My wisdom for the day:
Argentina to win both halfs
Germany to win, and to win both halfs
Nigeria to win, because I can't believe the odds are right on giving them little chance.
Quote from: Josephus on June 21, 2014, 04:02:35 PM
PS...everyone in the pool picked Germany to win :D
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PMI think he was one of the better players for Germany today. The worst were Khedira and especially Lahm. He should not play in defensive midfield anymore, put Schweinsteiger there again. Although Schweinsteiger was so-so as well. Lahm should go back to left or right back.
Not at all impressed with Oezil's play.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 21, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
The announcers kept saying the US wanted Germany to pummel Ghana. I don't get that. Isn't it to your advantage to have the team you beat do well?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 21, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
The announcers kept saying the US wanted Germany to pummel Ghana. I don't get that. Isn't it to your advantage to have the team you beat do well?
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
I'll watch Germany - USA in Alabama next week. I wonder if the Americans understand when I take a break in the middle of the workshop. :w00t:
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
I'll watch Germany - USA in Alabama next week. I wonder if the Americans understand when I take a break in the middle of the workshop. :w00t:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 21, 2014, 04:04:18 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 04:47:35 AM
My wisdom for the day:
Argentina to win both halfs
Germany to win, and to win both halfs
Nigeria to win, because I can't believe the odds are right on giving them little chance.
Can you let us know your secret? How do you do it? Do you have a crystal ball? :P
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
I am so betting on French victories from now on :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 21, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
Iran, Nigeria and Bosnia are in the same group? How wimpy. :huh:
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
OMGWTF I got one of the results right!
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 07:01:09 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
OMGWTF I got one of the results right!
Clearly you paid off that assistant referee.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 07:01:09 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 21, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
OMGWTF I got one of the results right!
Clearly you paid off that assistant referee.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSzkvvUp.gif&hash=f8e3ba03c6a3480986dbc796043eb5d5c02f0d65)
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 06:43:33 AM
USA will embarrass and send home Portugal
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 06:43:33 AM
Wisdom for today:
USA will embarrass and send home Portugal
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
Average seem to be 4/5 for Portugal to win and with the surprinsingly low odds of 18/5 for an American win.
Most popular bet is USA (19/5).
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 11:05:24 AM
I would like to see a USA vs Russia World Cup match someday.
Quote from: Josephus on June 22, 2014, 11:54:11 AM
Two second tier European teams playing each other... :zzz
Quote from: Maladict on June 22, 2014, 11:58:54 AMQuote from: Josephus on June 22, 2014, 11:54:11 AM
Two second tier European teams playing each other... :zzz
Yeah, so much for Belgium being a dark horse.
Quote from: Josephus on June 22, 2014, 02:02:45 PM
this game has all the making of a snore fest. Let's hope Im wrong
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 02:33:36 PMQuote from: Josephus on June 22, 2014, 02:02:45 PM
this game has all the making of a snore fest. Let's hope Im wrong
I'd say you are. :)
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 03:12:50 PM
That's a very good effort by Soon. Class.
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 02:43:58 PM
Well, Algeria is France's B side, so cheer up.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 03:22:54 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 02:43:58 PM
Well, Algeria is France's B side, so cheer up.
Indeed, and I'm only sad on behalf of my picks, this WC keeps delivering.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 01:35:58 PM
Flip busts out his reverse psychology Phillipino witchcraft.
Quote from: Maladict on June 22, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
This will be an interesting one for the pool, if anything.
Duque seems to have forgotten about this game :(
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
If I am not mistaken, you suggested goals the size of Canada.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 04:08:59 PM
Prediction for USA's group:
1st place: Germany
2nd place: Ghana
Ghana will find a way to knock us out. :cry:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/sports/worldcup/for-us-soccer-team-honesty-may-not-be-the-best-policy.html?WT.mc_id=D-E-AD-RSS-MOSTSHARED-0614&WT.mc_ev=click&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1402601509000&bicmet=1420054309000&_r=0
NYT article about the need for the US to learn to flop. Got to it from the Guarniad site.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 04:00:02 PM
I will say though, that I think the bigger improvement in this world cup vs. others is that the officiating has been better. It seems like it used to be FIFA was always introducing a new point of emphasis right before the cup, which combined with sometimes dodgy officials, resulted in lots of iffy red cards and penalties.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 04:00:02 PM
I will say though, that I think the bigger improvement in this world cup vs. others is that the officiating has been better. It seems like it used to be FIFA was always introducing a new point of emphasis right before the cup, which combined with sometimes dodgy officials, resulted in lots of iffy red cards and penalties.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
Debunked already
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/culture-lifestyle/140618/new-york-times-claims-usa-soccer-players-dont-flop-wrong (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/culture-lifestyle/140618/new-york-times-claims-usa-soccer-players-dont-flop-wrong)
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Just read up a bit about the history of soccerball in the US. Looks like there were umpteen leagues concentrated in the north-east up until around 1930, when FIFA stepped in to fuck things up.
Quote from: dps on June 22, 2014, 04:40:52 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Just read up a bit about the history of soccerball in the US. Looks like there were umpteen leagues concentrated in the north-east up until around 1930, when FIFA stepped in to fuck things up.
Yeah, professional soccer in the 1920s was at least as popular as the NFL (if perhaps a bit more regional). But it wasn't just FIFA--the Great Depression played a role in killing off the pro soccoer leagues of the time.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 04:39:04 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
Debunked already
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/culture-lifestyle/140618/new-york-times-claims-usa-soccer-players-dont-flop-wrong (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/culture-lifestyle/140618/new-york-times-claims-usa-soccer-players-dont-flop-wrong)
The author of this piece seems to be trying to refute the argument that US players *never* flop, which the NYT writer did not make. In fact he says Jozy Altidore is the best of a weak group.
Also not sure how video of Lebron James flopping (I didn't play it) and a mention of Jurgen Klinsman's flopping advance the case he's trying to make.
QuoteIf everyone in international competition and domestic leagues agreed, "there's too much diving, let's do something about it," that'd be great. Unfortunately, players, fans, countries, and leagues tend to point fingers at everyone but themselves. It's particularly unhelpful when fingerpointing gets mixed up with ideas (often stupid ideas) about national character, culture, or nature.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
Americans don't flop according to Americans.
Quote from: HVC on June 22, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
Who'd tamas pick in the us-Portugal game?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 05:00:00 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
Americans don't flop according to Americans.
Not any of the Americans who have posted or been linked here.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/sports/worldcup/for-us-soccer-team-honesty-may-not-be-the-best-policy.html?WT.mc_id=D-E-AD-RSS-MOSTSHARED-0614&WT.mc_ev=click&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1402601509000&bicmet=1420054309000&_r=0
NYT article about the need for the US to learn to flop. Got to it from the Guarniad site.
Quote from: HVC on June 22, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
Who'd tamas pick in the us-Portugal game?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 05:43:17 PMthey are playing very well.
USA playing well with the obvious exception of that defensive miscue. I'm impressed. :)
Quote from: Norgy on June 22, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
Naní's has made a lot of basic mistakes after his goal. Not being able to trap an easy pass, for instance.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Much better performance by the US than against Ghana. Except for the air ball.
If the US goes out playing like this, I can live with it.
Quote from: sbr on June 22, 2014, 06:52:35 PM
Soccer teams ever pull their goalie?
Quote from: sbr on June 22, 2014, 06:52:35 PM
Soccer teams ever pull their goalie?
Quote from: sbr on June 22, 2014, 06:52:35 PMthey should substitute the whole team.
Soccer teams ever pull their goalie?
Quote from: HVC on June 22, 2014, 06:56:36 PMQuote from: sbr on June 22, 2014, 06:52:35 PMthey should substitute the whole team.
Soccer teams ever pull their goalie?
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM:hug:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
Face-saving goal by Portugal.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:00:12 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ed enjoys porkchop goals? :blink:
Quote from: HVC on June 22, 2014, 06:58:54 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM:hug:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:02:35 PM
WHAT THE FUCK JUSTIFIED 5 MINUTES STOPPAGE TIME ANYWAYS?!!!!
Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Even if we lose to Germany, we will advance with a tie between Ghana and Portugal. If either of the teams wins, the first tie break is goal differential, and we are current +5 on Portugal. It might get close between the US and Ghana if Ghana wins.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:07:42 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Even if we lose to Germany, we will advance with a tie between Ghana and Portugal. If either of the teams wins, the first tie break is goal differential, and we are current +5 on Portugal. It might get close between the US and Ghana if Ghana wins.
Both Germany and USA will advance with a tie, Germany as first. Ideal situation for both? It can happen, ask Italy. :secret:
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2014, 07:07:52 PMWait, you rate your status quo above watching Ronaldo fail? Wtf is wrong with you, man.
Yet another miracle happened. The best scenario - Germany and Portugal advancing - may still happen.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Yet another miracle happened. The best scenario - Germany and Portugal advancing - may still happen.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:07:42 PM
Both Germany and USA will advance with a tie, Germany as first. Ideal situation for both? It can happen, ask Italy. :secret:
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
I now officially hate Portugal. Sorry, Duque. 5 minutes my ass.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 07:02:40 PMwith goal differential it's still a long shot. I'm just enjoying your hate.Quote from: HVC on June 22, 2014, 06:58:54 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM:hug:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Don't get cocky kid.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:07:42 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Even if we lose to Germany, we will advance with a tie between Ghana and Portugal. If either of the teams wins, the first tie break is goal differential, and we are current +5 on Portugal. It might get close between the US and Ghana if Ghana wins.
Both Germany andAustriaUSA will advance with a tie, Germany as first. Ideal situation for both? It can happen, ask Algeria. :secret:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:12:21 PMQuote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
I now officially hate Portugal. Sorry, Duque. 5 minutes my ass.
Relax!
:console: :secret: The US is still in a better position. :)
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:15:40 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:12:21 PMQuote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
I now officially hate Portugal. Sorry, Duque. 5 minutes my ass.
Relax!
:console: :secret: The US is still in a better position. :)
(oh I know, but such a cruel ending - see post above)
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:23:57 PMQuote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:15:40 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:12:21 PMQuote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
I now officially hate Portugal. Sorry, Duque. 5 minutes my ass.
Relax!
:console: :secret: The US is still in a better position. :)
(oh I know, but such a cruel ending - see post above)
Besides, Beckerman could have gotten a red card for the elbowing early in the game, so stop blaming the referee.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 07:23:36 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
I don't think I've watched a full game since the last world cup. However, I'm also well ahead of you in the languish pool. :P
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:22:25 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
Bah, I have been following soccer since 1990.
Quote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
Quote from: Maladict on June 22, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
Glad this was the last midnight game. This stuff is killing me.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
To be fair there are a lot of soccer hipsters in the US who suddenly started following the sport in the past couple years.
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:28:21 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
To be fair there are a lot of soccer hipsters in the US who suddenly started following the sport in the past couple years.
True, but I used to watch "Soccer Made in Germany" on PBS in the 1970s.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 07:26:33 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 22, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I give one thing to Ed: it is funny how you Americans come out of the woodwork when there is a World Cup and think you know a single thing about football. :P
You know what Beetlejuice? It's not that complicated a game.
Quote from: DGuller on June 22, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
When I was watching that comically slow substitution, I pictured in my mind the ref saying "fuck you, I'll add another minute just for that". How ironic that it proved to be the difference.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 07:29:19 PMQuote from: PDH on June 22, 2014, 07:28:21 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 22, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
To be fair there are a lot of soccer hipsters in the US who suddenly started following the sport in the past couple years.
True, but I used to watch "Soccer Made in Germany" on PBS in the 1970s.
Stop being old. :mad:
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
Indeed, you don't need in depth tactical knowledge for a game like this.
Ronaldo = evil, USA = brave underdogs.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:30:09 PMI'm not complaining, I think US deserved that extra minute, that was over the top. I also think that these kinds of delaying tactics against a determined team are counter-productive, as they put you in the wrong mindset.Quote from: DGuller on June 22, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
When I was watching that comically slow substitution, I pictured in my mind the ref saying "fuck you, I'll add another minute just for that". How ironic that it proved to be the difference.
Stop complaining, I have seen yellow cards for substitutions faster than that one. Bata(rd) anyone? :contract:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:34:32 PMQuote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
Sorry, Footix.
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2014, 07:33:36 PMQuote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
Indeed, you don't need in depth tactical knowledge for a game like this.
Ronaldo = evil, USA = brave underdogs.
Well, now the US is going to be driving straight into Casserine Pass next game.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 07:40:08 PMQuote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
The first one was a reference to the infamous Germany-Austria draw in 82 to keep Algeria from advancing. :smarty:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 07:40:08 PMQuote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
The first one was a reference to the infamous Germany-Austria draw in 82 to keep Algeria from advancing. :smarty:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 07:02:09 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:00:12 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ed enjoys porkchop goals? :blink:
Ed sick of idiot bandwagoning Americans who didn't have the time of day for this until they won a game and idiot news coverage.
Quote from: Valmy on June 22, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
Now the USA needs to tie the Germans right?
Quote from: Valmy on June 22, 2014, 07:44:08 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 07:02:09 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:00:12 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ed enjoys porkchop goals? :blink:
Ed sick of idiot bandwagoning Americans who didn't have the time of day for this until they won a game and idiot news coverage.
Sounds like the same reason Ed hates Ohio State Basketball.
Quote from: Valmy on June 22, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
Two gut punches in two days. Sports is a cruel mistress.
Now the USA needs to tie the Germans right?
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
Bradley. :weep:
Quote from: DGuller on June 22, 2014, 07:36:54 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 22, 2014, 07:30:09 PMI'm not complaining, I think US deserved that extra minute, that was over the top. I also think that these kinds of delaying tactics against a determined team are counter-productive, as they put you in the wrong mindset.Quote from: DGuller on June 22, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
When I was watching that comically slow substitution, I pictured in my mind the ref saying "fuck you, I'll add another minute just for that". How ironic that it proved to be the difference.
Stop complaining, I have seen yellow cards for substitutions faster than that one. Bata(rd) anyone? :contract:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 07:45:46 PMQuote from: Valmy on June 22, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
Two gut punches in two days. Sports is a cruel mistress.
Now the USA needs to tie the Germans right?
That would wrap it up. As would a Ghana Portugal draw.
Remember how you didn't understand why we wanted Ghana to lose to Germany? The easiest way for the US to not make the cut is if we lose to Germany and Ghana wins (that would put us in a tiebreak with Ghana, which we might win, might not--it would be close). Had Ghana lost to Germany, they would be eliminated.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
Guess the US should root for Portugal to beat Ghana now. :yuk:
Quote from: Tyr on June 22, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
In the Iran game the commentator mentioned that the Iranian players tend to be known by their Christian names :lol:
Quote from: Tyr on June 22, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
In the Iran game the commentator mentioned that the Iranian players tend to be known by their Christian names :lol:
Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2014, 04:20:13 AM
Dutch will win
Quote from: Syt on June 23, 2014, 05:36:26 AM
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:XD:
Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2014, 04:20:13 AM
Alright people, as my track record with the bets, AND my position on the Languish leaderboard shows, your ass really need the direction I can provide in this chaotic world of international football.
So here you go for today:
Australia-Spain: who the fuck cares
Dutch will win
Brazil will win both halfs
Mexio will edge out Croatia
Quote from: Zanza on June 23, 2014, 06:03:29 AM
I was in a random burger place in suburbian Alabama yesterday evening when the game was shown. They had it on their screens and most of customers actually watched it. Reactions were much more subdued than elsewhere in the world. No wild jumping around when scoring or swearing when conceding a goal.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 23, 2014, 06:02:01 AMQuote from: Tamas on June 23, 2014, 04:20:13 AM
Alright people, as my track record with the bets, AND my position on the Languish leaderboard shows, your ass really need the direction I can provide in this chaotic world of international football.
So here you go for today:
Australia-Spain: who the fuck cares
Dutch will win
Brazil will win both halfs
Mexio will edge out Croatia
Everyone cares, the Socceroos are an exciting team to watch.
Quote from: Zanza on June 23, 2014, 06:03:29 AMAnd not even a pm. <_<
I was in a random burger place in suburbian Alabama yesterday evening when the game was shown. They had it on their screens and most of customers actually watched it. Reactions were much more subdued than elsewhere in the world. No wild jumping around when scoring or swearing when conceding a goal.
Quote from: Norgy on June 23, 2014, 06:35:21 AM
The Curse of Tamas vs The Blessing of Valmy. :ph34r:
Quote from: mongers on June 23, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
Biggest ever world cup upset possible?
If Croatia and Mexico draw, Cameroon can can knockout Brazil by winning! :gasp:
Though I think that would need Tamasian levels of support for Brazil for it to happen. :P
Quote from: Zanza on June 23, 2014, 06:03:29 AM
I was in a random burger place in suburbian Alabama yesterday evening when the game was shown. They had it on their screens and most of customers actually watched it. Reactions were much more subdued than elsewhere in the world. No wild jumping around when scoring or swearing when conceding a goal.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2014, 08:20:23 AMQuote from: Zanza on June 23, 2014, 06:03:29 AM
I was in a random burger place in suburbian Alabama yesterday evening when the game was shown. They had it on their screens and most of customers actually watched it. Reactions were much more subdued than elsewhere in the world. No wild jumping around when scoring or swearing when conceding a goal.
You should be glad. When Alabama lost in the last second to Auburn last season one woman shot her friend when she showed insufficient emotional distress.
Also the Alabama woman attacking the Oklahoma frat boy at the Sugar Bowl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPojG4XpLAY
So, yeah, you want those people subdued.
Quote from: Maladict on June 23, 2014, 05:56:57 AMWait, what? They do?Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2014, 04:20:13 AM
Dutch will win
:(
Doesn't really matter though. Brazil get to pick who they will play, not Chile or Holland.
Thanks FIFA <_<
Quote from: Tyr on June 23, 2014, 09:36:02 AMQuote from: Maladict on June 23, 2014, 05:56:57 AMWait, what? They do?Quote from: Tamas on June 23, 2014, 04:20:13 AM
Dutch will win
:(
Doesn't really matter though. Brazil get to pick who they will play, not Chile or Holland.
Thanks FIFA <_<
Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:42:47 PM:P ...and what a well-built draw was that!Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 07:40:08 PMQuote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Your references continue to elude me.
The first one was a reference to the infamous Germany-Austria draw in 82 to keep Algeria from advancing. :smarty:
Ah, I was referring to the more modern 2-2 tie between Sweden and Denmark to keep Italy from advancing in the 2004 EC. A choice I made solely to annoy Pedrito.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 23, 2014, 09:53:24 AM
The B games are before the A games.
Quote from: Maladict on June 23, 2014, 10:39:58 AM
I was going to watch at a friend's place, but apparently they had a baby yesterday.
That shouldn't matter, right? :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2014, 09:25:48 AM
Too funny, people at work discussing the US game.
"What, there's no overtime?"
"Why didnt they pull their goalie in the last minute?"
It's just not our world, man.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 23, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
Read in the FT that the US won their worst team prize for 1998. Spain won this year.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 23, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
Shelf's favorite Youtube Channel and Mighty England 1966 in glorious technicolor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0aK2IgORGA&list=PL3kG3TM8jFKjL8PYXVQDJjjeXfC6ejFzn&feature=share&index=2) :bowler: :bowler: :bowler:
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 23, 2014, 03:41:53 PM
Cameroon might have the worst defense in the tournament.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 23, 2014, 01:38:17 PM
1998 was the first year they gave it out.
I thought the US acquitted itself honorably, if not commendably, in the hottie competition. A couple reasonable looking soccer moms.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 23, 2014, 12:51:30 PMThat would make sense if by "worst" they mean "underperforming". I'm sure teams like Iran would probably lose to Spain in a match, even if Spain doesn't replace its goalkeeper.
Read in the FT that the US won their worst team prize for 1998. Spain won this year.
Quote from: Liep on June 23, 2014, 05:29:27 PM
I heard the games on the radio, and the commentator said something like: "And Fred has now silenced his critics." But I've just watched a clip of the goal: he was offside, and he couldn't miss if his life depended on it. So.. is the commentator wrong or did Fred do something else in the game?
Quote from: sbr on June 23, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2014, 06:36:51 PMQuote from: sbr on June 23, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
KENT BROCKMAN
(in a commentary booth, bored) Half back passes to the center, back to the wing, back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it. Holds it...
MEXICAN COMMENTATOR
(excitedly) Half back passes to center, back to wing, back to center! Center holds it! Holds it! Holds it!!
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
Mexico's success fills me with rage. The US did this to themselves, they had the ancient enemy vanquished and handed them a rope.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2014, 06:36:51 PMQuote from: sbr on June 23, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
(https://www.google.be/logos/doodles/2014/world-cup-2014-27-5917140490125312-hp.gif)
KENT BROCKMAN
(in a commentary booth, bored) Half back passes to the center, back to the wing, back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it. Holds it...
MEXICAN COMMENTATOR
(excitedly) Half back passes to center, back to wing, back to center! Center holds it! Holds it! Holds it!!
Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 05:01:02 AM
Tamas' Picks of the Day:
Italy. Fuck Suarez.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 06:25:35 AM
Bradley shouldn't have lost possession in that last goal but then again the US defense shouldn't have stood around ball watching and let Varela score so easily. Just a lapse of concentration all around. Bradley is still the most important player on the team and is undroppable at the moment. Can't see anyone else in that role, to be honest.
Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 05:01:02 AM
Tamas' Picks of the Day:
Costa Rica. Ashamed, truly :Embarrass: But I cannot see England not fucking this one up, and it can (although unlikely) actually matter for CR, as they MIGHT lose first place.
Italy. Fuck Suarez.
Ivory Coast. Greece's football is an abomination.
Japan. It is an utterly meaningless game for Columbia, but Japan has a tiny glitter of hope. People fighting for their lives vs. people who'd rather be on the beach.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 08:43:06 AM
Yeah, what Yi said. Brilliant positioning from the Portugay defender. Just unlucky there.
I do think he had a poor game against Ghana, namely because the Ghana midfield pressed him hard and was tough and physical. He had a much improved game versus Portugal, who let him play his game and gave him a lot more space in the midfield.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 09:06:39 AM
It is a bit of a two way street though. When he plays well, the whole team plays well and we overachieve. But when he plays poorly, god help everyone.
Basically what I'm saying is I wish we had another Michael Bradley. (as a backup for, uh, Michael Bradley)
Quote from: PDH on June 24, 2014, 07:46:54 AM
Bradley should be playing in a top league in Europe still, to be honest.
Quote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
So which is the better game to watch this afternoon?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 01:06:00 PM
Costa Rica and Uruguay are New World winners, Italy and England Old World losers. New World dominance forever.
Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 01:07:21 PM
And now the ITV people are talking about positives and midfield and defend showing good signs.
Like what? 1 point, last place in the group. WTF are they talking about?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 12:26:11 PMQuote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
So which is the better game to watch this afternoon?
Italy-Uruguay should have been more interesting.
Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
I havent seen the England game, but now looking at Hodgson saying they just showed what a good team they can be... By 0-0ing against Costa Rica.... O RLY?
Quote from: Liep on June 24, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Mine still reflect the pre-WC wisdom. :(
Quote from: Pedrito on June 24, 2014, 06:10:38 AM:lol:Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 05:01:02 AM
Tamas' Picks of the Day:
Italy. Fuck Suarez.
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo......
L.
Quote from: Zanza on June 24, 2014, 03:37:52 PM<_< Tamas' Curse is terrible.Quote from: Pedrito on June 24, 2014, 06:10:38 AM:lol:Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 05:01:02 AM
Tamas' Picks of the Day:
Italy. Fuck Suarez.
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo......
L.
QuoteHaving seen it again, it was pretty bad of the Italian guy to shoulder him in the teeth. #soccerbeaver
2:25pm - 24 Jun 14
Quote from: Pedrito on June 24, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
<_< Tamas' Curse is terrible.
And by the way, you can't hope to progress after the Group phase, if you cannot total two shots on goal in two games against Costa Rica and uruguys. Fuck Balotelli, useless piece of useless football player.
...and by the way, fuck Suarez, I hope he'll get a 6-month ban from every competition because there's the bite and the simulation too, but i doubt it because FIFA wants his stars to play in the WC.
Fuck Blatter, too, just while we're here.
It's strange to think that the two finalists of the last Euro Cup are going home after the Group stage.
Let's only hope Tamas doesn't jinx Team USA, I'll root for them from now on.
L.
Quote from: Maladict on June 24, 2014, 04:26:50 PM
Apparently some guy bet on Suarez biting someone during the WC and won $5000. :lol:
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PM
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PMif Portugal wins and America losses with a goal differential of 5 what happens? Coin toss? Equal points, equal differential, tied against each other.
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
Quote from: Tamas on June 24, 2014, 05:10:54 PM:hug:Quote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PM
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
I have already placed my pound on a US victory. :contract:
Quote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
that wasn't a penalty :mad:
This wc hasn't been kind to Africa
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 05:11:45 PMQuote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
that wasn't a penalty :mad:
This wc hasn't been kind to Africa
Yep, he shot his own foot and then flopped.
Quote from: HVC on June 24, 2014, 05:11:14 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PMif Portugal wins and America losses with a goal differential of 5 what happens? Coin toss? Equal points, equal differential, tied against each other.
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
Quote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 05:24:11 PMQuote from: HVC on June 24, 2014, 05:11:14 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PMif Portugal wins and America losses with a goal differential of 5 what happens? Coin toss? Equal points, equal differential, tied against each other.
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
If that happens I'll buy you a drink.
oh, and goals scored is after differential.
then it's country with the fattest women...so Portugal is screwed either way. ;)
Quote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 05:24:11 PMdeal!Quote from: HVC on June 24, 2014, 05:11:14 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 24, 2014, 05:08:34 PMif Portugal wins and America losses with a goal differential of 5 what happens? Coin toss? Equal points, equal differential, tied against each other.
Hmm, I'm predicting a late penalty will deny America a place in the last 16.
If that happens I'll buy you a drink.
Quote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 04:59:36 PMQuote from: Maladict on June 24, 2014, 04:26:50 PM
Apparently some guy bet on Suarez biting someone during the WC and won $5000. :lol:
Given that the bite hasn't been proven, I doubt any bookie will give up that money so easily
Quote from: Maladict on June 24, 2014, 05:13:37 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 05:11:45 PMQuote from: Josephus on June 24, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
that wasn't a penalty :mad:
This wc hasn't been kind to Africa
Yep, he shot his own foot and then flopped.
I thought so too, but the defender did trip him up.
Did look like an accident, though.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
it appears the late game is not being shown in the US. :hmm:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
Can we get an assessment of the red card on Italy?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 07:54:06 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
Can we get an assessment of the red card on Italy?
Depends. Who were you rooting for?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2014, 08:14:42 PM
Uruguay is pretty well off.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2014, 08:14:42 PM
Uruguay is pretty well off.
Quote from: Maladict on June 24, 2014, 04:26:50 PM167 people won that bet
Apparently some guy bet on Suarez biting someone during the WC and won $5000. :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
I flipped on at 5:30 and couldn't find a game. :huh:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
I am getting behind the Greeks.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 10:00:30 PM
Mono, while I understand your system, I don't understand why it matters if weak sides like Honduras get out of the group stage. It isn't as though a North American team is a real threat to win the World Cup, and lots of teams from North America have advanced out of the group stage. Nigeria or Iran? Why worry?
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 08:19:18 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2014, 08:14:42 PM
Uruguay is pretty well off.
I took a bus around Uruguay. It is poor and shitty. :) Maybe not by Latin American or African, or maybe even parts of Eastern Europe standards, but by American and Western European standards it is.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 08:03:44 PMThe technical assessment is:Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 07:54:06 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
Can we get an assessment of the red card on Italy?
Depends. Who were you rooting for?
I'm part Italian, so that makes me lean toward Italy, but then like a third of Uruguay is Italian anyway and Italy is so freaking boring to watch. Plus Uruguay has Suarez, who despite being possibly one of the worst people on the planet, is a hell of a lot of fun to have in the tournament (both for skill and train wreck value). Balotelli is like a poor man's Suarez on both counts. So that makes me lean toward Uruguay. But then Suarez is probably going to get kicked out of the tournament anyway, so advantage Italy again. But then Uruguay is small, poor, and shitty, and Italy is big, rich, and awesome, so that makes me lean toward Uruguay a bit as it would mean more to them.
I really didn't care about the outcome, but I hate how red cards cripple teams in a game like this.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 25, 2014, 05:46:25 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 08:03:44 PMThe technical assessment is:Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 24, 2014, 07:54:06 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
Can we get an assessment of the red card on Italy?
Depends. Who were you rooting for?
I'm part Italian, so that makes me lean toward Italy, but then like a third of Uruguay is Italian anyway and Italy is so freaking boring to watch. Plus Uruguay has Suarez, who despite being possibly one of the worst people on the planet, is a hell of a lot of fun to have in the tournament (both for skill and train wreck value). Balotelli is like a poor man's Suarez on both counts. So that makes me lean toward Uruguay. But then Suarez is probably going to get kicked out of the tournament anyway, so advantage Italy again. But then Uruguay is small, poor, and shitty, and Italy is big, rich, and awesome, so that makes me lean toward Uruguay a bit as it would mean more to them.
I really didn't care about the outcome, but I hate how red cards cripple teams in a game like this.
Marchisio goes for the ball, but raises the foot a bit much and hits uruguy's leg just below the knee. Being the ref just beside the players, I think he intended the foul as a violent one, thus the direct red card. I think it's too much, and a Yellow card would suffice.
The partial assessment is:
Blatter hates Italy.
L.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 25, 2014, 06:38:33 AM
Ugh, none of the games today look interesting.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 25, 2014, 06:38:33 AM
Ugh, none of the games today look interesting.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2014, 08:01:05 AMYes, it'll come down to goal differential though. US is currently at +1, Ghana at -1, and Portugal at -4
Can US still get through with a loss to Germany?
If they don't I'll be rooting for France too.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2014, 08:01:05 AM
Can US still get through with a loss to Germany?
If they don't I'll be rooting for France too.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2014, 08:01:05 AMYes, as long as they don't get crushed badly, and Ghana doesn't go on a rampage against Port Ugal.
Can US still get through with a loss to Germany?
If they don't I'll be rooting for France too.
Quote from: The Larch on June 25, 2014, 09:13:08 AMWow, how's he going to put food on the table?
FIFA is investigating Suárez's biting of Chiellini. If found guilty, he faces a minimum of a two game ban (out until the semi finals if Uruguay advances until them), and a maximum of a two year ban. :wacko:
Quote from: DGuller on June 25, 2014, 09:26:17 AMQuote from: The Larch on June 25, 2014, 09:13:08 AMWow, how's he going to put food on the table?
FIFA is investigating Suárez's biting of Chiellini. If found guilty, he faces a minimum of a two game ban (out until the semi finals if Uruguay advances until them), and a maximum of a two year ban. :wacko:
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 25, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
I would like Argentina to win this World Cup, if only for the laughs.
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 25, 2014, 10:57:22 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 25, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
I would like Argentina to win this World Cup, if only for the laughs.
Works for me. :)
Quote from: Liep on June 25, 2014, 04:17:42 PM
Deserved red. Are you talking about Sakho's "get the fuck off me"-elbow?
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2014, 04:34:46 PM
What a bullshit red card against Ecuador. This is the crap that ruins a tournament. I'm at work and just saw the highlight without commentary, but that looked like something that can just go wrong on a challenge.
Quote from: Liep on June 25, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Have you seen what's under a football shoe? Going sole first into a tackle like that should always mean a red card.
Quote from: Liep on June 25, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
And I don't think the ref really saw de Jong's kick, because of course that sould've been a red card.
Place Player Score Correct Wrong % Correct Tie Breaker Difference [?] 1 Duque de Bragança 25 25 19 56.82% * 2 frunk 25 25 19 56.82% * 3 Maladict 25 25 19 56.82% * 4 Dorsey4Heisman 24 24 20 54.55% * 5 Liep 23 23 21 52.27% * 6 Norgy 23 23 21 52.27% * 7 Viking 22 22 22 50.00% * 8 dps 21 21 23 47.73% * 9 Josephus 21 21 23 47.73% * 10 Pedrito 21 21 23 47.73% * 11 funkmonk 20 20 24 45.45% * 12 Syt 20 20 24 45.45% * 13 Tamas 20 20 24 45.45% * 14 Agelastus 19 19 25 43.18% * 15 josquius 18 18 26 40.91% * 16 celedhring 0 0 44 0.00% * |
Quote from: Liep on June 25, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
A sliding tackle is legal when you get to the ball first, going into a tackle sole raised is never legal. And I don't think the ref really saw de Jong's kick, because of course that sould've been a red card.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2014, 04:34:46 PM
What a bullshit red card against Ecuador. This is the crap that ruins a tournament. I'm at work and just saw the highlight without commentary, but that looked like something that can just go wrong on a challenge.
Quote from: The Larch on June 25, 2014, 09:13:08 AM
FIFA is investigating Suárez's biting of Chiellini. If found guilty, he faces a minimum of a two game ban (out until the semi finals if Uruguay advances until them), and a maximum of a two year ban. :wacko:
Quote from: Monoriu on June 25, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
Iran out. South Korea is the last Asian team left.
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 25, 2014, 08:09:08 PMQuote from: Monoriu on June 25, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
Iran out. South Korea is the last Asian team left.
Why did you run out?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2014, 08:22:37 PM
It's a play on words. Iran out = I ran out. :secret:
Quote from: Monoriu on June 24, 2014, 10:14:39 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2014, 10:00:30 PM
Mono, while I understand your system, I don't understand why it matters if weak sides like Honduras get out of the group stage. It isn't as though a North American team is a real threat to win the World Cup, and lots of teams from North America have advanced out of the group stage. Nigeria or Iran? Why worry?
It is not just for this WC, but for future WCs as well. The system has to live on forever, long after our deaths. The idea is to maintain the status quo, where Europe and South America are strong, while others remain weak. If too many North American, African or Asian teams win, they'll have a stronger argument for more WC slots in the future. The people there will grow fond of the sport, and will participate more, upsetting the status quo in the future. It is important to put the idea that "Asians have no hope whatsoever in a WC tournament" in the heads of the next generation. Just give up, don't even try.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2014, 11:01:37 PM
This makes no sense. Having 6 or 7 slots isn't going to help North America win a World Cup--the best team isn't championship quality, so why would you have any fear from a lower tier won?
I'm also really skeptical that how deep a continent's team goes in the tournament has any bearing on talent development. It isn't as though, had Mexico lost to Croatia, North American children would have been discouraged from playing the sport. Not even in Mexico.
QuoteBy Christopher Beam @jcbeam
BEIJING, CHINA— On a Friday evening in May, more than 50,000 green-clad Beijingers streamed into Worker's Stadium to watch the local soccer team, the Beijing National Security, play the Guizhou Harmonious Relations. Harmonious Relations lost that night, in more ways than one. The drone of vuvuzelas was punctuated with periodic chanting, mostly variations on the unprintable-in-English term shabi. (A polite translation might be "dumb vagina.") When a Guizhou player subbed out, the Beijing fans hassled his replacement: "Shabi, big shabi, the more you change, the more you're a shabi." While the taunts were directed at the opposition, it occurred to me, sitting in the bleachers among the rowdy yet remarkably sober teenage fans, that they could be addressing Chinese soccer itself.
Soccer is one of the most popular spectator sports in China. Games between teams belonging to the domestic Chinese Super League (CSL), the top professional league in China, regularly draw crowds in the tens of thousands, plus millions of eyeballs on television, while the 2004 Asian Cup between China and Japan was the most-watched sports event in Chinese history. The CSL sold more than 4.2 million tickets in 2011, with an average game turnout of 17,651—greater than that of any other Asian league. While ticket prices fluctuate, a rough estimate of 50 yuan per ticket (that's how much I paid a friendly scalper) would put the CSL's annual revenue at around 210 million yuan, or $33 million. The widespread appreciation makes sense, considering the Chinese claim to have invented the sport: A team-based ball-kicking game called cuju became popular as early as the Han Dynasty. As international contests expanded in the early twentieth century, Team China enjoyed a hot streak, winning the Far Eastern Games six times in a row between 1915 and 1925.
But in recent decades, Chinese soccer has suffered. The men's national team scored zero points in three games at the 2002 World Cup, the last one for which it qualified. Since 1988, it has only made it into the Olympics once, in 2008, and that was because it hosted. The team's performance then was most notable for a Chinese fullback nailing a Belgian player in the crotch. Despite having the world's largest population, China now ranks seventy-third in the world in men's soccer, according to FIFA, down from thirty-seventh in 1998, though better than its 104–place ranking in 2009. The women's national team isn't quite as awful—it won the Asian Football Confederation Cup in 2006—but its success hasn't compensated for the men's failure. Outside Beijing's Olympic Sports Center, I asked ten-year-old Qiang Guoming, who was coming from soccer practice with his weekend youth team, which was better, his team or the national team. "Ours," he said without pausing. "They stink."
OF ALL THE troubles plaguing Chinese soccer, corruption is the most publicized. Bribery convictions have soiled the sport from top to bottom in recent years: CFA deputy chief Yang Yimin accepted $200,000 in bribes and was sentenced to ten and half years in prison; former head of referees Zhang Jianqiang took $433,000 and got 12 years; and the ref known as the "Golden Whistle" (for his reputation for fairness) took $128,000 and received five and a half years. On June 13, courts sentenced another eleven players and officials, including former CFA head Nan Yong, to prison terms for match-fixing and bribery. The sport's hand-greasing culture runs deep: Coaches pay off government officials in order to get hired, and players in turn bribe coaches for spots on professional teams. Nan Yong once quoted the price of a spot on the national team as 100,000 yuan, or about $16,000.
Ethical laxity has even infiltrated youth soccer. At the World Middle School Football Championships in Turkey in 2009, a Chinese middle school girls' team from Chongqing unexpectedly thumped the competition—beating the Turkish team 6-0, the French 3-0, and the Brazilians 1-0. Chinese media went wild, praising the team for its "excellent defense" and "cool composure." As it turned out, all but three players were actually members of the national youth team. The school's principal apologized but did not return the trophy. The Chinese Football Association (CFA) pleaded ignorance.
Youth soccer in general is in a sorry state. Last October, a primary school team lost a high-profile match to a visiting Russian youth team, spurring a Chinese media meltdown. Some fans blame the country's Soviet-style sports education system. Starting as early as age four, aspiring professional athletes typically attend at rigorous government-run boarding schools, where they study in the morning and train in the afternoon. The least skilled players are regularly booted out, eliminating late bloomers before they've had a chance to mature. Parents are often reluctant to let their child—usually their only child—do anything other than study for the all-important college exams. Adding to their reluctance is the perception that soccer is dangerous. "Now kids only play soft games, like jump rope," says Cai Wei, general manager of the Beijing Off Road soccer club.
Fixing China's soccer system will take time, but long-term solutions are not China's specialty. "China needs a 30-year football plan," says Rowan Simons, the author of Bamboo Goalposts: One Man's Quest to Teach the People's Republic of China to Love Football. "But if I present that plan to a new leader, the only thing he can be sure of is it will not work in his tenure." Incentives favor short-term maneuvers that burnish the reputation of whoever is currently in charge, he says, not long-term fixes that earn incumbents little credit. Officials at the China Football Association generally hold their positions for four years. Coaches cycle through even more quickly: There were eight national men's team coaches in the last decade. As a result, they tend to favor splashy "solutions," such as importing expensive foreign players like French former Chelsea striker Nicolas Anelka and coaches like Italy's Marcello Lippi. These strategies gin up media attention, but don't fix systemic problems like the country's shoddy youth program.
Some organizations—Beijing Off Road, for one—are trying to help. With three freshly painted bright-green pitches and a clear view of the Beijing National Stadium, known as the Bird's Nest, Off Road looks like it would be at home in Bethesda. Founded in 1997 and funded by member contributions (it costs 20 yuan, or about $3, for an hour of play), it offers lessons and facilities to kids and adults interested in recreational play, as well as an entry point for aspiring professional players who haven't committed themselves to a government-run school. It's also one of only about 80 pitches in Beijing, a city of 20 million. One adult player told me he commutes 30 kilometers each way to get there.
But even a relatively successful club like Off Road faces huge obstacles, according to Cai Wei, a floppy-haired former car salesman who once played for the People's Liberation Army soccer team. Land is expensive, so it's hard to justify using it for wide-open green space. The number of kids who want to play is shrinking. According to official statistics, the number of registered soccer players in China declined from 600,000 in 1996 to 7,000 in 2011. Even the so-called fans who attend professional soccer games are not real enthusiasts, he says: "They just go to shout."
THAT THE SHOUTING has eclipsed the soccer is remarkable in a media environment as tightly controlled as China's. The Chinese don't shy away from publicly discussing the sport's woes. "If you want to feel desperate and depressed, watch Chinese football," the comedian Song Dandan joked during a national Chinese New Year broadcast in 2008. "We play soccer like the Brazilians play Ping-Pong," the men's team captain famously said after a loss to Brazil at the 2008 Olympics—an insult to Brazil's not-half-bad ping pong team. That same year, Chinese soccer fans wrote a parody of the Beijing Olympics theme song that included the lyrics, "Come play with us, our goal posts are wide and always open." "The [CFA] officials need to reflect upon themselves," said former national team captain Fan Zhiyi, after the team's loss in the 2008 Olympics. "Who should be responsible for all these mess-ups?"
The Propaganda Department has occasionally drawn a line, demanding the press stop making fun of the men's national team in the wake of the 2008 Olympics and the 2010 World Cup. But, in general, the government hasn't discouraged chatter. If anything, by cracking down on corruption, they've fueled it. Fans attending the Beijing game rattled off complaints like talking points. "If Lionel Messi were born here, he wouldn't be great," said a man who called himself Zhu.
Oddly enough, soccer has become a kind of safe space for dissent—or, perhaps from the government's perspective, a useful safety valve for public anger. The people I met did not seem reluctant to share their grievances, and while they started with soccer, they didn't end there. Upset about government control of land? Complain about the lack of soccer fields. Sick of a culture of corruption and embezzlement? Scold the seedy soccer officials. Or if you just need to let off steam, round up some friends and go scream "Shabi!" Maybe that's why, at the Beijing National Security match, dozens of People's Liberation Army soldiers ringed the field. They weren't watching the game. They were watching the crowd.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2014, 05:58:13 PM
Bah. Are you looking at the full context? He came off the ball awkwardly.
Quote from: Liep on June 25, 2014, 05:12:17 PM
Studs first is what you call it in English, thanks the guardian.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2014, 05:58:13 PM
Bah. Are you looking at the full context? He came off the ball awkwardly.
http://www.espnfc.com/gamecast/383261/gamecast.html
(to see the replay you have to click the little red card icon below the video player)
Quote from: Tamas on June 26, 2014, 04:38:35 AM
Ok, time to leave the past behind and concentrate on today:
USA will win (wishful thinking but hey)
Quote from: Tamas on June 26, 2014, 04:38:35 AM:mad: Fuck you.
USA will win (wishful thinking but hey)
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
So the President of Ghana sent $3 million in cash on a plane last night to the Ghana team because of their payment dispute.
Ghana player kissing his fat stack of cash. :lol:
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"LS is regarded as having breached article 48 paragraph 1 of the Fifa disciplinary code, and article 57. He is to be suspended for nine official matches. The first match of this suspension is to be served in the upcoming Fifa World Cup game between Uruguay and Colombia." The nine-match ban is from all internationals.
There's also a four-month ban from all football, according to article 22 of the Fifa disciplinary code. And a ban from all football stadiums while matches are in progress, according to article 21. Plus a fine of 100,000 Swiss francs.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Fully expecting the Uruguayan FA to immediately schedule 9 meaningless and easy friendlies back to back over the next year.
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2014, 11:22:37 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 21, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
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Mesmerizing.
Quote from: frunk on June 26, 2014, 08:12:59 AM:lol:Quote from: Tamas on June 26, 2014, 04:38:35 AM
Ok, time to leave the past behind and concentrate on today:
USA will win (wishful thinking but hey)
Stop that!
QuoteThe player Luis Suárez is banned from taking part in any kind of football-related activity (administrative, sports or any other) for a period of four (4) months in accordance with art. 22 of the FDC.
· A stadium ban is pronounced against the player Luis Suárez in accordance with art. 21 of the FDC as follows: the player Luis Suárez is prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium during the period of the ban (point 3). The player Luis Suárez is prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium in which the representative team of Uruguay is playing while he has to serve the nine-match suspension (point 2).
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 26, 2014, 09:16:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKwh1xoqcT4
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
So the President of Ghana sent $3 million in cash on a plane last night to the Ghana team because of their payment dispute.
Ghana player kissing his fat stack of cash. :lol:
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Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
How come my government doesn't pay me in cash :mad:
Quote from: Syt on June 26, 2014, 09:51:06 AM:XD:Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
How come my government doesn't pay me in cash :mad:
Because your government iscivilizednot a corrupt kleptocracynot evilvalues its citizens...
:hmm:
I may have to come back to you on this.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 26, 2014, 09:16:01 AMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKwh1xoqcT4
QuoteAt the World Middle School Football Championships in Turkey in 2009, a Chinese middle school girls' team from Chongqing unexpectedly thumped the competition—beating the Turkish team 6-0, the French 3-0, and the Brazilians 1-0. Chinese media went wild, praising the team for its "excellent defense" and "cool composure." As it turned out, all but three players were actually members of the national youth team. The school's principal apologized but did not return the trophy. The Chinese Football Association (CFA) pleaded ignorance.
Quote from: Valmy on June 26, 2014, 10:32:23 AMQuoteAt the World Middle School Football Championships in Turkey in 2009, a Chinese middle school girls' team from Chongqing unexpectedly thumped the competition—beating the Turkish team 6-0, the French 3-0, and the Brazilians 1-0. Chinese media went wild, praising the team for its "excellent defense" and "cool composure." As it turned out, all but three players were actually members of the national youth team. The school's principal apologized but did not return the trophy. The Chinese Football Association (CFA) pleaded ignorance.
Man that is one badass Brazilian Middle School that only lost to a national youth team 1-0.
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 11:36:49 AM
Fitting that the first goal in the Por-Gha game is a spectacular own goal.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 10:44:26 AMQuote from: Valmy on June 26, 2014, 10:32:23 AMQuoteAt the World Middle School Football Championships in Turkey in 2009, a Chinese middle school girls' team from Chongqing unexpectedly thumped the competition—beating the Turkish team 6-0, the French 3-0, and the Brazilians 1-0. Chinese media went wild, praising the team for its "excellent defense" and "cool composure." As it turned out, all but three players were actually members of the national youth team. The school's principal apologized but did not return the trophy. The Chinese Football Association (CFA) pleaded ignorance.
Man that is one badass Brazilian Middle School that only lost to a national youth team 1-0.
Maybe the national youth team sucked :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 01:04:58 PMNot really, Belgians are pretty good.
Just read we're likely to face Walloonistan first. That's a pretty good draw, eh?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
Just read we're likely to face Walloonistan first. That's a pretty good draw, eh?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
Just read we're likely to face Walloonistan first. That's a pretty good draw, eh?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
Just read we're likely to face Walloonistan first. That's a pretty good draw, eh?
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
Germany's defense is crap. Unless they get a lot better I don't see Germany winning the World Cup.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
We have advanced through the group of death. I feel as though we are conquering champions.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 02:09:10 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
Germany's defense is crap. Unless they get a lot better I don't see Germany winning the World Cup.
I don't watch the Bundesliga so I just don't know, but are there really no good or promising German fullbacks since Lahm has converted to the midfield?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 02:15:07 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
We have advanced through the group of death. I feel as though we are conquering champions.
Agreed. The glass is 7/8 full. As long as we don't get sodomized in the next stage it will be a successful tourney.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 02:09:10 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
Germany's defense is crap. Unless they get a lot better I don't see Germany winning the World Cup.
I don't watch the Bundesliga so I just don't know, but are there really no good or promising German fullbacks since Lahm has converted to the midfield?
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 02:26:30 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 02:09:10 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
Germany's defense is crap. Unless they get a lot better I don't see Germany winning the World Cup.
I don't watch the Bundesliga so I just don't know, but are there really no good or promising German fullbacks since Lahm has converted to the midfield?
Isn't it just that Lahm is so good he's better used as a defensive playmaker? Guardiola said he was the most intelligent player he ever coached, and he has coached some pretty fucking good players.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 02:36:01 PMQuote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 02:26:30 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 02:09:10 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
Germany's defense is crap. Unless they get a lot better I don't see Germany winning the World Cup.
I don't watch the Bundesliga so I just don't know, but are there really no good or promising German fullbacks since Lahm has converted to the midfield?
Isn't it just that Lahm is so good he's better used as a defensive playmaker? Guardiola said he was the most intelligent player he ever coached, and he has coached some pretty fucking good players.
Yeah I've heard that and I know Pep uses him there to great effect. I was just wondering since I was under the impression that both Boateng and Hoewedes are natural center defenders, not fullbacks.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 02:27:57 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 02:15:07 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
We have advanced through the group of death. I feel as though we are conquering champions.
Agreed. The glass is 7/8 full. As long as we don't get sodomized in the next stage it will be a successful tourney.
I think it will be a successful tourney even with sodomy. The odds of us getting out of the group were considered rather low. Belgium may not be the toughest draw, but we are getting to close to being over our heads and everyone is going to be very highly motivated.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 26, 2014, 02:42:27 PM
The only left fullback on the team is the 21-year-old Durm, who just finished his first full pro-season for Dortmund. The only alternative for right fullback is Groskreutz, also from Dortmund, who isn't a real fullback, but a jack-of-all-trades. Germany is missing 3 defensive playmakers due to injuries, while two other were not at %100 at the start of the tournament.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
What's the difference between a fullback and a central defender? I thought they were the same thing.
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 02:50:59 PM
Btw, in the pool, is the 1st stage on its own? Or will both stages count towards final victory? In other words, should I risk it all in the last two games? :P
Quote from: derspiess on June 26, 2014, 10:53:14 AM
:ultra: http://soccer.fusion.net/2014/06/26/german-press-predicts-germany-win-makes-fun-of-u-s-obesity-and-debt/
Wonder what kind of pep talk Patton would give the US team before it faces Germany :hmm:
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2 Maladict 27 27 21 56.25% 35
3 Dorsey4Heisman 26 26 22 54.17% 14
4 Liep 26 26 22 54.17% 48
5 Viking 26 26 22 54.17% 52
6 Duque de Bra 26 26 22 54.17% 136
7 Norgy 25 25 23 52.08% 105
8 Josephus 24 24 24 50.00% 20
9 dps 23 23 25 47.92% 37
10 funkmonk 23 23 25 47.92% 91
11 Pedrito 23 23 25 47.92% 136
12 Tamas 23 23 25 47.92% 136
13 Agelastus 21 21 27 43.75% 20
14 josquius 21 21 27 43.75% 92
15 Syt 20 20 28 41.67% 84
16 celedhring 0 0 48 0.00% 136 Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Another careless studs first tackle, another red. Deserved. What the fuck was Defour thinking?
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
I will from now on fiercely root for the anti-Status Quo team.
Quote from: derspiess on June 26, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
Both yesterday and today I noticed hard core soccer nerds at the bar/pub watching the game on their laptops and on the big screen above the bar. I guess they were watching feed with some slightly different camera angles or something but it seemed a bit odd.
Quote from: alfred russel
Not to derail this again, but a red card is the most draconian punishment I can think of in a popular sport. It is like taking a giant dump on the game. Does anyone actually get hurt from this stuff?
There were just two critical world cup matches derailed by red cards for dangerous tackles, and in neither case did the person at risk sustain an injury enough to even make them leave the game
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
I will from now on fiercely root for the anti-Status Quo team.
Quote from: dps on June 26, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
You'll get tossed from a baseball game for throwing a spitter, using a corked bat, or saying something that pisses off the umpire, even though none of those things are likely to lead to any serious injury. I don't see that red cards are all that different.
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 05:57:05 PM
The red card is suppose to be a severe penalty to discourage dangerous play (that can easily cause knee, leg, foot injury). And a match isn't derailed because of going a player down, it's only changed.
And when it's that clearly stated by FIFA that a studs first tackle won't be tolerated it's just inexplicably stupid to still do it.
Quote from: Tamas on June 26, 2014, 04:38:35 AM
Ok, time to leave the past behind and concentrate on today:
USA will win (wishful thinking but hey)
Ghana will defeat Portugal, plus, Ronaldo will score and Ghana will end up winning 3-2
My first thinking was that Russia would overcome Algeria until I realised the latter is basically the French reserve team. Algeria to win, Russia to be humiliated.
Belgium will win both halfs.
Quote from: sbr on June 26, 2014, 06:56:52 PMQuote from: Tamas on June 26, 2014, 04:38:35 AM
Ok, time to leave the past behind and concentrate on today:
USA will win (wishful thinking but hey)
Ghana will defeat Portugal, plus, Ronaldo will score and Ghana will end up winning 3-2
My first thinking was that Russia would overcome Algeria until I realised the latter is basically the French reserve team. Algeria to win, Russia to be humiliated.
Belgium will win both halfs.
You really need to find a new hobby.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 06:41:04 PMQuote from: dps on June 26, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
You'll get tossed from a baseball game for throwing a spitter, using a corked bat, or saying something that pisses off the umpire, even though none of those things are likely to lead to any serious injury. I don't see that red cards are all that different.
The difference is you can replace an ejected player in most other sports. Hockey is the one I can think of in which you can't.
Quote from: DGuller on June 26, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
I knew that the ref can technically yellow card people other than the players on the field, but I've never actually seen it happen until the Algeria-Russia game. :lol:
Quote from: The Larch on June 26, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
Rugby doesn't replace ejected players.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 06:41:04 PMQuote from: dps on June 26, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
You'll get tossed from a baseball game for throwing a spitter, using a corked bat, or saying something that pisses off the umpire, even though none of those things are likely to lead to any serious injury. I don't see that red cards are all that different.
The difference is you can replace an ejected player in most other sports. Hockey is the one I can think of in which you can't.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 26, 2014, 06:47:38 PM
Red cards can be harsh and certainly can change the dynamics of games but they're usually handed out for pretty clear offenses and it's not like there are two red cards handed out a game or something. It's just something you live with and IMO makes the narrative of the game a lot more interesting than if you could simply sub on another player.
A team holding onto dear life for the draw after their player gets sent off and desperately needing the points is incredibly dramatic and contributes to the allure of the game.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 26, 2014, 09:55:55 PM
After their respective performances I have to think that Costa Rica is a heavy favorite over Greece.
I understand that's not what you want to happen, but you should at least be realistic.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Prediction:
Brazil vs Chile. Brazil wins.
Columbia vs Uruguay. Uruguay wins.
Netherlands vs Mexico. Netherlands wins.
Costa Rica vs Greece. Greece wins.
France vs Nigeria. France wins.
Germany vs Algeria. Germany wins.
Argentina vs Switzerland. Argentina wins.
Belgium vs the US. Belgium wins.
Argentina is actually the most important one. They are the only previous WC winner guarding the "southern" route. If Argentina loses, at least one team in the final won't be a previous WC winner.
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
4th in the 1st stage. Acceptable.Code Select1 frunk 28 28 20 58.33% 8
2 Maladict 27 27 21 56.25% 35
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4 Liep 26 26 22 54.17% 48
5 Viking 26 26 22 54.17% 52
6 Duque de Bra 26 26 22 54.17% 136
7 Norgy 25 25 23 52.08% 105
8 Josephus 24 24 24 50.00% 20
9 dps 23 23 25 47.92% 37
10 funkmonk 23 23 25 47.92% 91
11 Pedrito 23 23 25 47.92% 136
12 Tamas 23 23 25 47.92% 136
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14 josquius 21 21 27 43.75% 92
15 Syt 20 20 28 41.67% 84
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Grats to the clear winner, frunk. Even best at the tie breaker.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 26, 2014, 07:15:42 PMQuote from: The Larch on June 26, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
Rugby doesn't replace ejected players.
I didn't know that.
Quote from: Syt on June 26, 2014, 10:48:01 PM
Damn, I suck. :lol:
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 09:39:03 PMI think Colombia will win against a shaken Uruguay. HAAAAMES RODRIGUEEEEZ!
Prediction:
Brazil vs Chile. Brazil wins.
Columbia vs Uruguay. Uruguay wins.
Netherlands vs Mexico. Netherlands wins.
Costa Rica vs Greece. Greece wins.
France vs Nigeria. France wins.
Germany vs Algeria. Germany wins.
Argentina vs Switzerland. Argentina wins.
Belgium vs the US. Belgium wins.
Argentina is actually the most important one. They are the only previous WC winner guarding the "southern" route. If Argentina loses, at least one team in the final won't be a previous WC winner.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
Upsets happen all the time in football :contract:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Take the Italy and Uruguay game. A critical game for both countries. What determines it? In part that Italy got a guy sent off and Uruguay didn't. Yeah a team can overcome that, but I'd rather see the teams compete at top quality and the more skillful team move on.
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 03:47:10 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Take the Italy and Uruguay game. A critical game for both countries. What determines it? In part that Italy got a guy sent off and Uruguay didn't. Yeah a team can overcome that, but I'd rather see the teams compete at top quality and the more skillful team move on.
The most skillful team doesn't get a player sent off, besides Italy had been playing for a draw even before the red card so it didn't chance much. :P
Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:54:03 AMQuote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 03:47:10 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Take the Italy and Uruguay game. A critical game for both countries. What determines it? In part that Italy got a guy sent off and Uruguay didn't. Yeah a team can overcome that, but I'd rather see the teams compete at top quality and the more skillful team move on.
The most skillful team doesn't get a player sent off, besides Italy had been playing for a draw even before the red card so it didn't chance much. :P
And, people, the whole point of a red card is to put the receiving team in a decisive disadvantage, thereby discouraging misconduct on the pitch.
Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:53:17 AM
Holland will advance, Robben will score. This should be the best game this weekend BTW
Quote from: Maladict on June 27, 2014, 04:25:04 AMCURSED.Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:53:17 AM
Holland will advance, Robben will score. This should be the best game this weekend BTW
:cry:
Quote from: Syt on June 26, 2014, 10:48:01 PMQuote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
4th in the 1st stage. Acceptable.Code Select1 frunk 28 28 20 58.33% 8
2 Maladict 27 27 21 56.25% 35
3 Dorsey4Heisman 26 26 22 54.17% 14
4 Liep 26 26 22 54.17% 48
5 Viking 26 26 22 54.17% 52
6 Duque de Bra 26 26 22 54.17% 136
7 Norgy 25 25 23 52.08% 105
8 Josephus 24 24 24 50.00% 20
9 dps 23 23 25 47.92% 37
10 funkmonk 23 23 25 47.92% 91
11 Pedrito 23 23 25 47.92% 136
12 Tamas 23 23 25 47.92% 136
13 Agelastus 21 21 27 43.75% 20
14 josquius 21 21 27 43.75% 92
15 Syt 20 20 28 41.67% 84
16 celedhring 0 0 48 0.00% 136
Grats to the clear winner, frunk. Even best at the tie breaker.
Damn, I suck. :lol:
14 10 06 02 98 94
Europa 6 6 10 9 10 10
Sydamerika 5 5 3 2 4 2
CONCACAF 3 2 1 2 1 2
Afrika 2 1 0 1 0 0
Asien 0 2 0 2 0 1
Oceanien 0 1 1 0 0 0
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 06:26:50 AM
The Status Quo is losing the battle. Go CONCACAF!
Teams qualifying for the WC playoff:Code Select14 10 06 02 98 94
Europa 6 6 10 9 10 10
Sydamerika 5 5 3 2 4 2
CONCACAF 3 2 1 2 1 2
Afrika 2 1 0 1 0 0
Asien 0 2 0 2 0 1
Oceanien 0 1 1 0 0 0
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 06:26:50 AM
The Status Quo is losing the battle. Go CONCACAF!
Teams qualifying for the WC playoff:Code Select14 10 06 02 98 94
Europa 6 6 10 9 10 10
Sydamerika 5 5 3 2 4 2
CONCACAF 3 2 1 2 1 2
Afrika 2 1 1 1 1 1
Asien 0 2 0 2 0 1
Oceanien 0 0 1 0 0 0
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 06:40:41 AMQuote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 06:26:50 AM
The Status Quo is losing the battle. Go CONCACAF!
Teams qualifying for the WC playoff:Code Select14 10 06 02 98 94
Europa 6 6 10 9 10 10
Sydamerika 5 5 3 2 4 2
CONCACAF 3 2 1 2 1 2
Afrika 2 1 1 1 1 1
Asien 0 2 0 2 0 1
Oceanien 0 0 1 0 0 0
Corrected.
Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:53:17 AM
bandwagoners :rolleyes: And USAians discussing the merits of red cards and penalties is cute. :P
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 27, 2014, 06:14:57 AMWe're not doing so bad at all. Behind most other American continent countries, but ahead of all European countries. :yeah:
Flopping rankings.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175?mod=trending_now_1
Quote from: Monoriu on June 27, 2014, 07:52:11 AM
Losing the battle? Europe plus S. America have been pretty consistent. 12 in 1994, 14 in 1998, 11 in 2002, 13 in 2006, 11 in 2010, 11 in 2014. I think the status quo has, well, kept the status quo.
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https://news.yahoo.com/ann-coulter-world-cup-column-182845703.html
Ann Coulter: Real Americans hate soccer
'No American whose great-grandfather was born here is watching soccer,' columnist writes
By Dylan Stableford
Millions of Americans watched the United States advance in the World Cup on Thursday. Ann Coulter was probably not one of them.
In a column published on Wednesday, Coulter, the conservative pundit and provocateur, blasted the sport of soccer and trolled its U.S. fans, whom she refers to as "Americans" — quotes marks included.
"I've held off on writing about soccer for a decade — or about the length of the average soccer game — so as not to offend anyone," Coulter's column begins. "But enough is enough. Any growing interest in soccer can only be a sign of the nation's moral decay."
Coulter lists all the reasons why she says soccer is not a real sport. Among them: "Individual achievement is not a big factor."
"The blame is dispersed and almost no one scores anyway," Coulter writes. "There are no heroes, no losers, no accountability, and no child's fragile self-esteem is bruised. There's a reason perpetually alarmed women are called 'soccer moms,' not 'football moms.'"
Another: It's boring, she claims.
"If Michael Jackson had treated his chronic insomnia with a tape of Argentina vs. Brazil instead of Propofol, he'd still be alive, although bored," Coulter quips.
It's not violent enough for Coulter.
"The prospect of either personal humiliation or major injury is required to count as a sport," she writes. "Most sports are sublimated warfare."
In American football, she writes, "ambulances carry off the wounded. After a soccer game, every player gets a ribbon and a juice box."
And despite the stellar ratings that Sunday's USA-Portugal game received in the United States (18.2 million viewers, according to ESPN), Coulter doesn't believe the sport is actually catching on here.
"The same people trying to push soccer on Americans are the ones demanding that we love HBO's 'Girls,' light-rail, Beyoncé and Hillary Clinton," she writes. "The number of New York Times articles claiming soccer is 'catching on' is exceeded only by the ones pretending women's basketball is fascinating."
Coulter claims she's not the only one bored by soccer in the States. "One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not 'catching on' at all, is African-Americans," Coulter writes. "They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.
"If more 'Americans' are watching soccer today, it's only because of the demographic switch effected by Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration law," Coulter adds. "I promise you: No American whose great-grandfather was born here is watching soccer. One can only hope that, in addition to learning English, these new Americans will drop their soccer fetish with time."
QuoteCoulter claims she's not the only one bored by soccer in the States. "One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not 'catching on' at all, is African-Americans," Coulter writes. "They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2014, 10:11:50 AMQuoteCoulter claims she's not the only one bored by soccer in the States. "One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not 'catching on' at all, is African-Americans," Coulter writes. "They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.
I was not aware African-Americans took all their cultural direction from the French.
Quote from: derspiess on June 27, 2014, 10:13:44 AMQuote from: Valmy on June 27, 2014, 10:11:50 AMQuoteCoulter claims she's not the only one bored by soccer in the States. "One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not 'catching on' at all, is African-Americans," Coulter writes. "They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.
I was not aware African-Americans took all their cultural direction from the French.
I can think of a couple things: fancy names with accent marks and Hennessy.
Quote from: PRC on June 27, 2014, 10:16:22 AMQuote from: derspiess on June 27, 2014, 10:13:44 AMQuote from: Valmy on June 27, 2014, 10:11:50 AMQuoteCoulter claims she's not the only one bored by soccer in the States. "One group of sports fans with whom soccer is not 'catching on' at all, is African-Americans," Coulter writes. "They remain distinctly unimpressed by the fact that the French like it.
I was not aware African-Americans took all their cultural direction from the French.
I can think of a couple things: fancy names with accent marks and Hennessy.
Pass the Courvoisier.
Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:54:03 AMQuote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 03:47:10 AMQuote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Take the Italy and Uruguay game. A critical game for both countries. What determines it? In part that Italy got a guy sent off and Uruguay didn't. Yeah a team can overcome that, but I'd rather see the teams compete at top quality and the more skillful team move on.
The most skillful team doesn't get a player sent off, besides Italy had been playing for a draw even before the red card so it didn't chance much. :P
And, people, the whole point of a red card is to put the receiving team in a decisive disadvantage, thereby discouraging misconduct on the pitch.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 27, 2014, 11:52:09 AM
Americans don't care about track, figure skating, or swimming either, but that doesn't stop us from tuning in every 4 years.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
I'd like to see the team most skilled at traditional skills win, not the one best able to avoid biting people, or headbutting people, or having a guy engage in a bit of dangerous play.
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 11:54:57 AMQuote from: Peter Wiggin on June 27, 2014, 11:52:09 AM
Americans don't care about track, figure skating, or swimming either, but that doesn't stop us from tuning in every 4 years.
It's a global phenomenon. Every year around this time I get into tennis for example.
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 11:50:10 AM
The actions you get a red card from are clearly defined, avoid those. There aren't any stupid actions you can get a red card from.. so I'm not sure where you're going.
And there are discouragements in the NFL at least, huge ass fines, suspensions and penalties that can have severe effect on a team. You can't compare playing at man disadvantage here because it's much more of a man vs. man sport.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
I don't like tuning into see Portugal - Germany and watching Portugal neutered early because Pepe was a dumbass and allowed himself to be goaded into headbutting someone (which in itself was ridiculously unsporting, perhaps encouraged by the current rule structure).
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 12:32:20 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 12:18:45 PMOkay, I don't really know how to continue this. A good player doesn't hurt his team by acting stupid. A red card doesn't mean a loss.
I don't like tuning into see Portugal - Germany and watching Portugal neutered early because Pepe was a dumbass and allowed himself to be goaded into headbutting someone (which in itself was ridiculously unsporting, perhaps encouraged by the current rule structure).
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 12:32:20 PM
Okay, I don't really know how to continue this. A good player doesn't hurt his team by acting stupid. A red card doesn't mean a loss.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Another downside to ejections is it virtually forces the offending team to squat in their half. Surely you don't need any more of that in this sport.
I believe i asked the same question last WC and got an answer, but I still don't get the rationale for off sides. It seems to me that no matter how far an offensive player goes down the pitch, the defender can just follow him.
Quote from: Liep on June 26, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
4th in the 1st stage. Acceptable.Code Select1 frunk 28 28 20 58.33% 8
2 Maladict 27 27 21 56.25% 35
3 Dorsey4Heisman 26 26 22 54.17% 14
4 Liep 26 26 22 54.17% 48
5 Viking 26 26 22 54.17% 52
6 Duque de Bra 26 26 22 54.17% 136
7 Norgy 25 25 23 52.08% 105
8 Josephus 24 24 24 50.00% 20
9 dps 23 23 25 47.92% 37
10 funkmonk 23 23 25 47.92% 91
11 Pedrito 23 23 25 47.92% 136
12 Tamas 23 23 25 47.92% 136
13 Agelastus 21 21 27 43.75% 20
14 josquius 21 21 27 43.75% 92
15 Syt 20 20 28 41.67% 84
16 celedhring 0 0 48 0.00% 136
Grats to the clear winner, frunk. Even best at the tie breaker.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 12:41:44 PMQuote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 12:32:20 PM
Okay, I don't really know how to continue this. A good player doesn't hurt his team by acting stupid. A red card doesn't mean a loss.
No a red card doesn't mean a loss. However, I'm guessing that between evenly matched teams a red card early in the game decreases the offending team's chance of winning by 50%, if not more.
I really think Pepe headbutting some dude is irrelevant to the game. Yeah he needs to be tossed. Suspend him too. Fine him. But let Portugal bring on a substitute.
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 12:53:29 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
It's very relevant to the game because the rules state that you're booted for doing so intentionally. And yes, an early red card is very tough on a team which is why they shouldn't break the rules.
Changing the rules regarding the red card would be difficult though, FIFA is very much into fair play these days and will generally stop at nothing (except income) to punish breaking the fair play. Becoming more lenient then on misconduct doesn't really seem to be likely, even if it might improve the game. Which I don't think it will.
You've created a bit of a tautology--these things are relevant to the game because they are in the rules which say you are booted if you break them.
If you want to really enforce fair play, then Mueller should also have been sent off for goading Pepe into doing what he did. Mueller was clearly not displaying much sportsmanship.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 27, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
It's so a team doesn't just stick all their attackers at the mouth of the goal and lump it up from their own half.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2014, 01:20:09 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 27, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
It's so a team doesn't just stick all their attackers at the mouth of the goal and lump it up from their own half.
OK, I can see that. But seems to me rule like no players in the other team's penalty area unless there are defenders there too would more logically attain the same goal and be easier to spot and enforce.
Quote from: Liep on June 27, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
A video replay determines that there wasn't a red card or even a penalty, but that has already been scored. What to do?
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
Maybe something we can also agree on is video replay for cards in major matches? It doesn't have to stop the game, and would only overturn clear mistakes and misses. For example, with Suarez, just send a note to the official that he should be red carded and at the next stoppage he will be sent off.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 01:51:32 PMFIFA isn't going to go for video replays. That's just a non-starter. Yes, if you think things through, you can implement it in a totally unobtrusive way. Just have a fourth official watch the game on TV, and advise the ref on the field by radio that he missed something very material (a clear dive, a mistake due to ref's angle, or one player attacking another one away from the ball). The ref on the field will still have a final call on everything, so you don't even have to break the tradition of absolute dictatorship of the head ref.
Maybe something we can also agree on is video replay for cards in major matches? It doesn't have to stop the game, and would only overturn clear mistakes and misses. For example, with Suarez, just send a note to the official that he should be red carded and at the next stoppage he will be sent off.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2014, 02:25:22 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
Maybe something we can also agree on is video replay for cards in major matches? It doesn't have to stop the game, and would only overturn clear mistakes and misses. For example, with Suarez, just send a note to the official that he should be red carded and at the next stoppage he will be sent off.
A little silly to have video review of judgement calls.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2014, 01:20:09 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 27, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
It's so a team doesn't just stick all their attackers at the mouth of the goal and lump it up from their own half.
OK, I can see that. But seems to me rule like no players in the other team's penalty area unless there are defenders there too would more logically attain the same goal and be easier to spot and enforce.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 27, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Yeah, simulation is a cardable offense. It's entirely up to the referee though, so there's a lot of variation in actual calls.
Honestly, soccer is the "least fair" major sport, yet I still enjoy it far more than football or basketball. I'm also the type of guy who defended Suarez's handball-preventing-goal against Ghana in 2010. I would have done the same thing 100 times out of 100.
Quote from: Tamas on June 27, 2014, 03:53:17 AM
bandwagoners :rolleyes: And USAians discussing the merits of red cards and penalties is cute. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2014, 03:43:10 PM
Why not?
Who cares if an attacker pitches camp by the corner flag?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 27, 2014, 05:14:24 PMi was watching that game with a while room of Americans chanting USA for the last minute and then portugal scored and it went quiet. Only me and another guy across the room shouted out. Everyone looked at me and I quickly walked out :lol:
Fan reaction to Ronaldo's goal in the 2-2 draw.
http://youtu.be/FU5karXZacg
:lol:
Quote from: PDH on June 27, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
The game should be about movement and flow, which is why replays won't work well (other than goals) and why the ref needs to be on top of such things as diving and injury faking. Perhaps it is difficult to see at first, but the game should have a flow that not only is the ball movement but also the movement of the players around, the shape of the defense, the outstanding individual moves, and the teamwork to create offside whistles.
My girlfriend, who is not a sports person in the least, was watching with me this past week and she said "the camera view seems a lot further out," as more of the play and the potential play was in view. That is one of the major differences to me about soccer - it is more than the ball.
Because of this, I am with Norgy. The game should flow, it should be played right and proper, and it should be beautiful.
Quote from: Josephus on June 27, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-panelist-obama-world-cup-distraction
It's all Obamas' fault
Quote from: dps on June 27, 2014, 07:21:06 PMQuote from: PDH on June 27, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
The game should be about movement and flow, which is why replays won't work well (other than goals) and why the ref needs to be on top of such things as diving and injury faking. Perhaps it is difficult to see at first, but the game should have a flow that not only is the ball movement but also the movement of the players around, the shape of the defense, the outstanding individual moves, and the teamwork to create offside whistles.
My girlfriend, who is not a sports person in the least, was watching with me this past week and she said "the camera view seems a lot further out," as more of the play and the potential play was in view. That is one of the major differences to me about soccer - it is more than the ball.
Because of this, I am with Norgy. The game should flow, it should be played right and proper, and it should be beautiful.
I agree. Heck, I don't even much like replay in American football, 'cause it stops the momentum of the game.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
If we are talking cards, you don't have to stop the game. Simply let it go and announce any cards / revocation of cards at the next stoppage.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
Anyway everybody tune in on the 8th of July when France ends yet another Brazilian World Cup.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
Yeah, those are the rules, and coping with the rules can be defined as a part of a team's skill. But if the rules gave red cards for picking your nose and Messi was sent off for fishing out a booger, surely everyone would recognize that would be stupid. I'd like to see the team most skilled at traditional skills win, not the one best able to avoid biting people, or headbutting people, or having a guy engage in a bit of dangerous play.
Quote from: Viking on June 28, 2014, 11:43:55 AM
I'd like to see that rephrased to "I'd like to see the team most skilled at playing the game without putting the health and welfare and fairness of the game into danger."
Quote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Hulk. Almost as useless as Fred. :lol:
Quote from: HVC on June 28, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
Well that refs going to need an escort out if the stadium
Quote from: Norgy on June 28, 2014, 12:23:30 PM:D well brazil did import a bunch for there World Cup cities.Quote from: HVC on June 28, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
Well that refs going to need an escort out if the stadium
:perv:
Quote from: Norgy on June 28, 2014, 12:23:03 PMQuote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Hulk. Almost as useless as Fred. :lol:
Pelés they are not. I find it hard to fathom that there aren't other strikers available in Brazil. :sleep:
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 28, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
Brazil is playing terrible. In this form it is hard to see them winning the WC.
Quote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 01:21:05 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on June 28, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
Brazil is playing terrible. In this form it is hard to see them winning the WC.
It's saying something that Hulk has been the best for them in the OT.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 28, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Medel has been really impressive for Chile.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 28, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
Seriously, how did we ever expect this Brasil team to beat Germany/France in the final.
Quote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 01:39:47 PMbrazils at least has been trying to score. Although chile had the best chance.
Seems both team are settling in for penalties.
Quote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 02:01:45 PM
Could hardly have been closer. Brazil won't reach the semis.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 28, 2014, 02:56:18 PMQuote from: Liep on June 28, 2014, 02:01:45 PM
Could hardly have been closer. Brazil won't reach the semis.
I don't know...they only need to win one game, and the winner of Colombia / Uruguay isn't elite, plus will be missing their top player.
Quote from: Norgy on June 28, 2014, 04:12:54 PMHe's at 5 goals scored now, isn't he? I think his price has skyrocketed, where does he play now, Monaco FC?
Just wanted to mention: Rodriguez. Again. :hug:
Quote from: Pedrito on June 28, 2014, 04:16:54 PMya, Monaco. Bought for 45mQuote from: Norgy on June 28, 2014, 04:12:54 PMHe's at 5 goals scored now, isn't he? I think his price has skyrocketed, where does he play now, Monaco FC?
Just wanted to mention: Rodriguez. Again. :hug:
L.
Quote from: Tyr on June 29, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Holland for the cup!
Though Mexico winning would be kind of funny given how excited a lot of Americans seem to be about this tournament. Its nice to imagine their cleaners giving them smug looks.
Quote from: Zanza on June 29, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
Algeria has a 100% win record against Germany. :ph34r:
Quote from: Zanza on June 29, 2014, 11:55:44 AM
Dutch show a poor game, but should have gotten a penalty at the end.
Quote from: Tyr on June 29, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Holland for the cup!
Though Mexico winning would be kind of funny given how excited a lot of Americans seem to be about this tournament. Its nice to imagine their cleaners giving them smug looks.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 29, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
Mexico winning would be cool.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 12:04:08 PM
The Mexican soccer team is our mortal enemy. Their fans throw balloons of urine at us when we play there.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2014, 12:03:47 PM
How the hell did Greece make it this far?
Quote from: Liep on June 29, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
The same way they won the '04 EC.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2014, 12:09:42 PMQuote from: Liep on June 29, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
The same way they won the '04 EC.
A couple 1-0 shitfests?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2014, 12:14:45 PM
Hahaha fuck you Dutch pricks.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2014, 12:42:35 PMHuntelaar assisted the first goal and had the balls to shoot the penalty. Perfect substitute.
Why is van Persie getting yanked? :huh:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
For those worried about the Mono angle to this, I concede that Mexico winning the tournament would probably destroy his world. But they weren't going to win anyway. The Netherlands and Colombia are probably our two best hopes for a first time winner, and that would also be quite disastrous for Mono. Remember that in the last 4 world cups, we have had 2 first time winners. This could make it 3 in 5. The club is becoming less exclusive. The barbarians are at the gates; the old guard is collapsing.
Quote from: Tyr on June 29, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Holland for the cup!
Though Mexico winning would be kind of funny given how excited a lot of Americans seem to be about this tournament. Its nice to imagine their cleaners giving them smug looks.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 04:15:07 PM
Say, Columbia winnng the WC is no where near as bad as Nigeria winning it. At least nobody will be able to say this is the dawn of African/Asian/North American football or something.
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
Woah Costa Rica scored.
Well they have nothing to worry about now. The Greek Phalanx attacks like all its hoplites are advancing through a swamp with all their legs amputated.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 29, 2014, 04:36:13 PM
Is Valmy the new Tamas?
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 04:15:07 PMQuote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
For those worried about the Mono angle to this, I concede that Mexico winning the tournament would probably destroy his world. But they weren't going to win anyway. The Netherlands and Colombia are probably our two best hopes for a first time winner, and that would also be quite disastrous for Mono. Remember that in the last 4 world cups, we have had 2 first time winners. This could make it 3 in 5. The club is becoming less exclusive. The barbarians are at the gates; the old guard is collapsing.
Say, Columbia winnng the WC is no where near as bad as Nigeria winning it. At least nobody will be able to say this is the dawn of African/Asian/North American football or something.
QuoteYeah the Dutch or Columbia winning it would hardly be a shocking development. Both have been favorites in the past.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Costa Rica gets Dorsied!! :o
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 04:39:54 PM
It certainly wouldn't be shocking this time. However, Colombia has been really hit or miss--and since the 90s are a lot more miss than hit. Assuming that trend continues, they would be more like the Uruguay of former winners. A mid tier South American side for which it really isn't news if they miss the World Cup and something of an accomplishment to advance beyond the group stage. They aren't a giant.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
The red carded dude will just put on another jersey, assume someone else's identity, and come back in the game.
Quote from: celedhring on June 29, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Greece equalizes :bleeding:
The EU should have written into the MoU that Greece wasn't allowed to take part in international football competitions; would have been justified use of tax money imho.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
The US and Mexico often get into the knockout stage. But Costa Rica. That's just :cry:
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:17:54 PM
Actually, Mexico is a bigger threat to the status quo than Costa Rica. So I guess this isn't too bad.
Now let's get rid of the Afircan teams.
Quote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:06:43 PM
Love it. Bye, bye, Greece! You won't be missed.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:25:53 PM
I'm still hoping for a Brazil - Argentina final. That hope is still alive. That's the ultimate victory for the status quo.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
The US and Mexico often get into the knockout stage. But Costa Rica. That's just :cry:
Quote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:29:45 PMQuote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
The US and Mexico often get into the knockout stage. But Costa Rica. That's just :cry:
And the Greeks tend to fight for honours every time?
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:25:53 PM
I'm still hoping for a Brazil - Argentina final. That hope is still alive. That's the ultimate victory for the status quo.
Quote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:34:36 PM
Meh. Argentina's been little else than the genius of Lionel Messi. They do have other players, but like the Dutch, rely heavily on the sheer class of a very select few forwards. Might be the most boring final ever, considering Brazil's less than impressive displays.
The Brazilian team as a whole just isn't that superb.
When I look back at the first World Cup I can say I followed, which was Spain 1982, the Brazil side of today looks bleak in comparision to that team they fielded in 1982. It had everything, until they met Italy.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:31:37 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:29:45 PMQuote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
The US and Mexico often get into the knockout stage. But Costa Rica. That's just :cry:
And the Greeks tend to fight for honours every time?
Greece is in Europe. The Europeans have a good shot every time :contract:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2014, 06:41:39 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:34:36 PM
Meh. Argentina's been little else than the genius of Lionel Messi. They do have other players, but like the Dutch, rely heavily on the sheer class of a very select few forwards. Might be the most boring final ever, considering Brazil's less than impressive displays.
The Brazilian team as a whole just isn't that superb.
When I look back at the first World Cup I can say I followed, which was Spain 1982, the Brazil side of today looks bleak in comparision to that team they fielded in 1982. It had everything, until they met Italy.
I would too, obviously. That said, I have some hope for Colombia. The team looks strong, and James Rodriguez is a very exciting player. :pirate
That may be, however, Messi is on the pitch. Also, a Brazil - Argentina World Cup final in Rio.
It may not be the two most glamorous sides either country has fielded, but I'd tune in.
Quote from: Norgy on June 29, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
So, in general, European teams never win outside of Europe. And Africa.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2014, 05:02:20 PM
Yi is getting crushed by the Phillipine juggernaut. :weep:
Off home to catch the extra time. Or maybe the boozer would be better.
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2014, 04:18:30 PMQuote from: Tyr on June 29, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Holland for the cup!
Though Mexico winning would be kind of funny given how excited a lot of Americans seem to be about this tournament. Its nice to imagine their cleaners giving them smug looks.
They are our arch rivals. We are constantly exchanging looks with our cleaners following Mexico's constant stream of failures.
QuoteFifa is investigating a bust-up at the World Cup after claims the Chile striker Mauricio Pinilla was punched by Brazil's communications director Rodrigo Paiva at half-time during Saturday's match. Paiva, a well-known figure in Brazilian football, has admitted to shoving Pinilla but said that he did so only in self-defence.
Fifa's disciplinary committee is believed to have access to video footage and pictures of the incident in Belo Horizonte.
A scuffle broke out as the teams headed to the dressing rooms in the Estádio Mineirão, sparked by the Brazil striker Fred slapping Gary Medel on the back of the head as they walked off the pitch.
Brazil media said Paiva and the Chile assistant manager Sebastián Beccacece were involved in a confrontation which ended Paiva punching Pinilla. Paiva said there was pushing between the squads and added: "It was not just me. Pinilla came towards me and I just defended myself. I reacted by pushing him."
Pinilla, who plays for Italian side Cagliari, came off the bench and nearly won the match for Chile but his shot in the last seconds of the match struck the cross-bar.
The striker was then one of three Chile players to miss penalties in the shoot-out which Brazil won 3-2 to go through to the quarter-finals.
Quote from: sbr on June 29, 2014, 10:35:28 PM
There is a "song" stuck in my head that I keep hearing, I am pretty sure the crowd "sings" it and it goes:
AAAAAAA-OOOOOO-AAAAAA, AA-OOO-AAA-OOOO-AAAA
Any ideas?
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
Can't see any upsets tomorrow unless the French spontaneously surrender, which is always possible.
France and Germany easily onto the quarters.
Quote from: Tamas on June 30, 2014, 04:24:26 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on June 29, 2014, 07:17:30 PM
Can't see any upsets tomorrow unless the French spontaneously surrender, which is always possible.
France and Germany easily onto the quarters.
Yeah should be a boring day, although I do have my money on French and German victories :shifty:
Quote from: dps on June 29, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Yeah, in general I want to see teams from our region do well, but I just couldn't bring myself to root for Mexico.
Quote from: Valmy on June 30, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Poor Mark Mangino :lol:
Quote from: Syt on June 30, 2014, 09:07:23 AM
I guess a major difference is that most (all?) European Football coaches have been professional players themselves.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
You never see a flabby basketball ref.
Quote from: Norgy on June 30, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
4.25.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2014, 12:31:17 PMQuote from: Norgy on June 30, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
4.25.
4.25/1? You bet one to win 4.25? Nate Silver said we had a 45% chance of winning.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 30, 2014, 12:24:15 PM
Pedowaffles.
Quote from: Valmy on June 30, 2014, 12:34:33 PM
I have to admit that I am starting to get nervous.
Quote from: Norgy on June 30, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Enjoy the Stella atmosphere.
Seriously, a Belgian restaurant? That's not even ethnic cuisine. It's, hmm, strange country at odds with itself cuisine.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2014, 01:05:01 PM
I had some moules-frites when I was in Montreal and I must confess I don't quite see the allure.
Quote from: The Larch on June 30, 2014, 02:06:34 PM
Mmm, grilled squid with aioli... :mmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2014, 02:46:27 PM
You're allowed to drink water.
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 30, 2014, 03:22:34 PMIn our defense, we suck.
Algeria have already created better chances, and more of them, than we did in our entire game against Germany.
Quote from: Norgy on June 30, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Texan Moslems sound really dangerous. :ph34r:
Quote from: Zoupa on June 30, 2014, 10:18:02 PM
I dont think German defense has an answer to Benzema Giroud Griezmann.
2-0 France on Friday :sleep:
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 05:18:59 AM
France - Algeria would have been much more "entertaining".
Quote
World Cup 2014: Cameroon investigates match-fixing claims
Cameroon officials are to investigate claims that seven of their players were involved in match-fixing at the World Cup in Brazil.
The ethics committee of the African country's football federation will look at allegations of "fraud" by "seven bad apples" in their three group games.
The allegations have been made in a German news magazine Der Spiegel by a convicted match-fixer from Singapore.
Cameroon lost all their Group A games, including a 4-0 defeat by Croatia.
The Indomitable Lions had Alex Song sent off for lashing out at Mario Mandzukic in that game, while team-mates Benoit Assou-Ekotto and Benjamin Moukandjo clashed late on in the game.
The allegations were made by convicted football match-fixer Wilson Raj Perumal, who was detained by police in Finland in April on an international arrest warrant.
In a discussion with Der Spiegel, the Singaporean correctly forecast the result with Croatia and that a player would be sent off.
A statement from Cameroon's FA read: "Recent allegations of fraud around Cameroon's 2014 Fifa World Cup three preliminary games, especially Cameroon versus Croatia, as well of the 'existence of seven bad apples [in our national team]' do not reflect the values and principles promoted by our administration, in line with Fifa's code of conduct and the ethics of our nation.
"We are strongly committed to employ all means necessary to resolve this disruptive matter in the shortest delays."
The investigation will form part of a wider inquiry ordered by the country's president, Paul Biya, into the team's poor performance at the World Cup.
Senior betting industry sources have told BBC Sport there has been no suspicious betting activity around Cameroon's games - or any other at this World Cup.
Fifa did not comment on whether it was looking into the issue as football's world governing body did not want to "compromise any possible investigations".
It did, however, add: "Speaking generally, the integrity of the game is a top priority for Fifa and as such we take any allegations of match manipulation very seriously."
Cameroon's build up to the tournament in Brazil was marred by the players refusing to board a plane to Brazil until a dispute over bonus payments had been settled.
A financial package was eventually agreed with Cameroon's football federation, Fecafoot, but the squad's journey to the World Cup had been delayed for almost a day.
They started the tournament with a 1-0 defeat by Mexico prior to the loss to Croatia and being beaten 4-1 by hosts Brazil.
"Some players behaved very badly, and that's why we have conceded four goals," Cameroon head coach Volker Finke told French newspaper L'Equipe after the Croatia defeat.
"I know that it is difficult to play with 10 men, but that is not a reason to lose it to this point.
"The game was balanced until the red card. The Croatians were more clinical in front of goal, but Cameroon also had chances to score.
"The behaviour of some of the players is really not satisfactory. Even when we were 11-a-side, it was not acceptable."
Fellow African nation Ghana is also involved in allegations over corruption.
The country's Football Association has called in the police to investigate the claims, although the GFA president Kwesi Nyantakyi is to sue the Daily Telegraph newspaper over its claim he agreed for the national team to play in matches others were preparing to fix.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2014, 05:47:15 AMThat is pretty awesome. And it will be gone in a few months unlike a tattoo, which is good.
:lol:
(http://static.2a69e0-620x372.jpeg)
Quote from: alfred russel on June 09, 2014, 12:49:35 PM
If Brazil can't pull off the World Cup in decent form, the Olympics have to be a bit concerned. At least Brazilians care about and do well in soccer.
Quote from: Josephus on July 01, 2014, 08:46:13 AMIs that the original planned capacity, or the capacity that they finished?Quote from: alfred russel on June 09, 2014, 12:49:35 PM
If Brazil can't pull off the World Cup in decent form, the Olympics have to be a bit concerned. At least Brazilians care about and do well in soccer.
FIFA announces Brazil has experienced an average attendance of 98.2% of capacity across all venues.
Looks like it's going over OK
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
Ed will be glad to know that the party ends for us tonight. I hope at least that our boys can put in a good showing before they have to bow down to these... Belgians. :yucky:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
Ed will be glad to know that the party ends for us tonight. I hope at least that our boys can put in a good showing before they have to bow down to these... Belgians. :yucky:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
Ed will be glad to know that the party ends for us tonight. I hope at least that our boys can put in a good showing before they have to bow down to these... Belgians. :yucky:
Quote from: Liep on July 01, 2014, 01:34:37 PM
What's up with the heart sign being thrown after goals? Are they all One Direction fans?
Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 04:26:19 PM
Those of you who watch it on TV, does this really look as one-sided as the match stats on Google look?
Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 04:26:19 PM
Those of you who watch it on TV, does this really look as one-sided as the match stats on Google look?
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 04:27:40 PM
It is. Men vs boys right now.
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
Howard's crotch has been USA's best player by far.
Quote from: Norgy on July 01, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
Howard's been the 101st Airborne at Bastogne today.
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 04:53:24 PMQuote from: Norgy on July 01, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
Howard's been the 101st Airborne at Bastogne today.
It's gonna be Market-Garden, though.
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 04:53:24 PMQuote from: Norgy on July 01, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
Howard's been the 101st Airborne at Bastogne today.
It's gonna be Market-Garden, though.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
Looks like I woke up at 5am for nothing. The American team does realize they have to shoot the ball in order to score points? It feels like they've been out shot 6 or 8 to 1. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2014, 05:18:57 PMThey're not that bad, it's only 4 or 5 to 1.
Looks like I woke up at 5am for nothing. The American team does realize they have to shoot the ball in order to score points? It feels like they've been out shot 6 or 8 to 1. <_<
Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
I guess I'm going down to the bar again. Hopefully most of the people there were fickle morons who gave up after the first goal, and left already.
Quote from: Zanza on July 01, 2014, 05:34:48 PM
This is a fun football game. :)
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
Did Klinsmann just say "One minute?? Fuck that!" to the fourth official? :lmfao:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
Did Klinsmann just say "One minute?? Fuck that!" to the fourth official? :lmfao:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 01, 2014, 05:38:19 PM
Great game, great tourney, near perfect final outcome.
Quote from: Zanza on July 01, 2014, 05:40:01 PM
Argentina better step up their game against these Belgians.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:44:04 PM:thumbsup:
Costa Rica now carry the torch of freedom forward into the later rounds. Godspeed, CONCACAF. Godspeed.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
<Twitter reel>
It's happened. We have become England.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
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It's happened. We have become England.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 06:05:19 PM
Yay! US loses!
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2014, 06:06:48 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 06:05:19 PM
Yay! US loses!
May Ohio State win the next four consecutive Basketball championships.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 06:08:20 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 01, 2014, 06:06:48 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 06:05:19 PM
Yay! US loses!
May Ohio State win the next four consecutive Basketball championships.
We know the Longhorns won't win them.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 06:05:19 PM
Yay! US loses!
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 06:15:34 PMformer teammates no?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrfoplXIQAAmJt5.png:large)
Class.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 05:20:19 PMI could have gotten another two hours of sleep and still been able to watch all three goals being scored. -_-Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
Looks like I woke up at 5am for nothing. The American team does realize they have to shoot the ball in order to score points? It feels like they've been out shot 6 or 8 to 1. <_<
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Quote from: katmai on July 01, 2014, 07:10:20 PMQuote from: celedhring on July 01, 2014, 06:15:34 PMformer teammates no?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrfoplXIQAAmJt5.png:large)
Class.
Quote from: Josephus on July 01, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
America...wake up...this is what happens when you play in a "World" tournament that actually has, you know, other countries. ;)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2014, 08:14:07 PMQuote from: Josephus on July 01, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
America...wake up...this is what happens when you play in a "World" tournament that actually has, you know, other countries. ;)
It doesn't take Vince Lombardi to tell you that you can't play a half-field game and expect to win. Shit, doesn't take the Duke of Lombardi to tell you that either. Or Guy Lombardo, for that matter.
Stupid ass game. I blame the filthy Kraut coach. Next time use Bill Parcells, people.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2014, 08:14:07 PM
It doesn't take Vince Lombardi to tell you that you can't play a half-field game and expect to win. Shit, doesn't take the Duke of Lombardi to tell you that either. Or Guy Lombardo, for that matter.
Stupid ass game. I blame the filthy Kraut coach. Next time use Bill Parcells, people.
Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 05:59:29 PM
Well, I will never leave the bar again.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
I don't get the optimism about the future for the US. Maybe in 8 or 12 years, but not in 4. The team is not good save for 1 bona fide star in Tim Howard, and he may be retired by the next world cup. Clint Dempsey is also be winding down.
I know there is young talent coming along, but there is a lot of talent going away too. It isn't likely that in 4 years a guy we have never heard of is going to come along and put this team on his back and play with true international superstar talent. I think in 4 years we are going to be right where we are now. Hoping to get out of the group stage (expecting if the draw isn't too tough), and then get some breaks to possibly get into the quarterfinals. The same place we've been for the past 3 WCs.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 01, 2014, 09:22:24 PM
But the trend is disturbing. From 1954 - 1986, the US didn't qualify. They have qualified in every tournament since 1990. It is now generally expected that the US will qualify, and that it is no surprise if they reach the round of 16. The US has such a huge population and market that if the sport becomes more popular over there, in the long-run the US has potential to become a powerhouse.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2014, 10:00:39 PM
Big push over head trauma and soccer at the school level too, so once soccermoms get wind that little Junior can run the risk of ALS in 40 years, its popularity will drop as well.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 10:04:48 PM
I doubt if I'll let my sons play football. I nearly went nuclear last year when a coach told one of my nephews to lead with his head on a tackle.
Fucking piece of shit.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
Gee, thanks.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 01, 2014, 09:47:50 PM
The US should be acceptable to you Mono, it finish in 3rd at the first world cup.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 10:12:37 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
Gee, thanks.
You aren't keeping them from soccer too, are you? I did say football and soccer.
But fuck soccer. Get them into baseball or basketball. Raise Americans, not wannabe europeans. :bowler:
Quote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 09:56:46 PMIt seems like if brain damage is your concern, then playing a sport where hitting a ball with your unprotected head is standard play is not a good alternative.Quote from: Monoriu on July 01, 2014, 09:22:24 PM
But the trend is disturbing. From 1954 - 1986, the US didn't qualify. They have qualified in every tournament since 1990. It is now generally expected that the US will qualify, and that it is no surprise if they reach the round of 16. The US has such a huge population and market that if the sport becomes more popular over there, in the long-run the US has potential to become a powerhouse.
I think the most popular sport for really young kids in the US is soccer. Basically because it is so easy to toss a ball onto a field and have small kids chase it for an hour. But once kids get a bit older they move into football, baseball, and basketball.
You want me to scare you? There has been a shitload of safety concerns regarding head injuries in football, and participation is dropping considerably at around the 10-12 age range. It is a very small movement, but some high schools have even made moves to drop teams. Football is the king of American sports, and if kids move away from football, some will go to soccer. That won't impact the next world cup, but in 10 years it might.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
I don't get the optimism about the future for the US. Maybe in 8 or 12 years, but not in 4. The team is not good save for 1 bona fide star in Tim Howard, and he may be retired by the next world cup. Clint Dempsey is also be winding down.
Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
It seems like if brain damage is your concern, then playing a sport where hitting a ball with your unprotected head is standard play is not a good alternative.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 01, 2014, 10:52:10 PMQuote from: DGuller on July 01, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
It seems like if brain damage is your concern, then playing a sport where hitting a ball with your unprotected head is standard play is not a good alternative.
Eh, heading the ball isn't really the problem. Doing it properly is completely safe and doesn't hurt at all. It's heading the ball when someone else, who also wants to head that very same ball, jumps into you going 20 mph and smashes his head into yours that's the problem.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 01, 2014, 09:22:24 PMQuote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
I don't get the optimism about the future for the US. Maybe in 8 or 12 years, but not in 4. The team is not good save for 1 bona fide star in Tim Howard, and he may be retired by the next world cup. Clint Dempsey is also be winding down.
I know there is young talent coming along, but there is a lot of talent going away too. It isn't likely that in 4 years a guy we have never heard of is going to come along and put this team on his back and play with true international superstar talent. I think in 4 years we are going to be right where we are now. Hoping to get out of the group stage (expecting if the draw isn't too tough), and then get some breaks to possibly get into the quarterfinals. The same place we've been for the past 3 WCs.
But the trend is disturbing. From 1954 - 1986, the US didn't qualify. They have qualified in every tournament since 1990. It is now generally expected that the US will qualify, and that it is no surprise if they reach the round of 16. The US has such a huge population and market that if the sport becomes more popular over there, in the long-run the US has potential to become a powerhouse.
Quote from: Tyr on July 02, 2014, 05:11:49 AMQuote from: Monoriu on July 01, 2014, 09:22:24 PMQuote from: alfred russel on July 01, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
I don't get the optimism about the future for the US. Maybe in 8 or 12 years, but not in 4. The team is not good save for 1 bona fide star in Tim Howard, and he may be retired by the next world cup. Clint Dempsey is also be winding down.
I know there is young talent coming along, but there is a lot of talent going away too. It isn't likely that in 4 years a guy we have never heard of is going to come along and put this team on his back and play with true international superstar talent. I think in 4 years we are going to be right where we are now. Hoping to get out of the group stage (expecting if the draw isn't too tough), and then get some breaks to possibly get into the quarterfinals. The same place we've been for the past 3 WCs.
But the trend is disturbing. From 1954 - 1986, the US didn't qualify. They have qualified in every tournament since 1990. It is now generally expected that the US will qualify, and that it is no surprise if they reach the round of 16. The US has such a huge population and market that if the sport becomes more popular over there, in the long-run the US has potential to become a powerhouse.
That's more down to FIFA increasing the amount of teams in the finals and changing how qualification works to make the world cup more global rather than the US suddenly becoming better.
It is expected that the US will always qualify because they only other consistently good team in North America is Mexico, and there are 3 guaranteed spots for North America and one potential.
Until the 80s there was usually just one slot for North America, which Mexico usually took.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 02, 2014, 06:15:20 AM
That is right.
Quote from: DGuller on July 02, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
And the Scottish dude was probably Hispanic (if you're thinking of the same guy I'm thinking of).
1 Maladict 35 35 21 62.50% 35
2 frunk 34 34 22 60.71% 8
3 Liep 34 34 22 60.71% 48
4 Viking 33 33 23 58.93% 52
5 Duque de Bra 33 33 23 58.93% 136
6 Dorsey4Heis 32 32 24 57.14% 14
7 Josephus 31 31 25 55.36% 20
8 dps 31 31 25 55.36% 37
9 Norgy 31 31 25 55.36% 105
10 Pedrito 30 30 26 53.57% 136
11 Tamas 30 30 26 53.57% 136
12 Agelastus 29 29 27 51.79% 20
13 funkmonk 29 29 27 51.79% 91
14 Syt 26 26 30 46.43% 84
15 josquius 21 21 35 37.50% 92
16 celedhring 0 0 56 0.00% 136
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 02, 2014, 08:33:18 AMQuote from: DGuller on July 02, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
And the Scottish dude was probably Hispanic (if you're thinking of the same guy I'm thinking of).
Irish. JP works with Tommy Smyth.
(TSN radio just recast ESPN radio for it's WC coverage).
Quote from: Monoriu on July 02, 2014, 06:17:33 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 02, 2014, 06:15:20 AM
That is right.
Then it is problematic. Decades ago Mexico consistently did better than the US. Now, the US is at least on par with Mexico.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 09:50:54 AM
On par? Fuck Mexico we are their daddy now.
Quote from: Maladict on July 02, 2014, 09:54:07 AM
Not in this WC.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 10:00:14 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 02, 2014, 09:54:07 AM
Not in this WC.
True. We did not play them in this WC.
Quote from: Maladict on July 02, 2014, 10:03:28 AM
You were equal to them at best.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Man, Val has gotten cocky. Pride goeth before the fall.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 10:09:55 AMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Man, Val has gotten cocky. Pride goeth before the fall.
The rivalry with Mexico is the only interesting thing about CONCACAF, so I milk it for all its worth. I get pretty worked up with Mexican hatred every tourney. They make it easy though with their fifth columnists showing up to every US-Mexico match played in the US.
Quote from: Maladict on July 02, 2014, 10:03:28 AM
You were equal to them at best.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 10:11:39 AM
Racist
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 10:09:55 AMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Man, Val has gotten cocky. Pride goeth before the fall.
The rivalry with Mexico is the only interesting thing about CONCACAF, so I milk it for all its worth. I get pretty worked up with Mexican hatred every tourney. They make it easy though with their fifth columnists showing up to every US-Mexico match played in the US.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 10:15:00 AMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 10:11:39 AM
Racist
Well I also hate Canada, but only because they are so horrible I find it offensive.
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
You lot should join CONMEBOL - you would still qualify and would play better opposition. The US needs to play proper teams more often in order to progress.
Some crowds will still hate your guts, mind. Oh, to play away at Venezuela.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2014, 10:13:27 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 02, 2014, 10:03:28 AM
You were equal to them at best.
We both got to the round of 16 after finishing second in our groups. Considering no common opponents there is only so much conclusion that can be drawn.
They were fourth in qualifying and only avoided fifth through a miracle bailout by the US. We were first. We won the last gold cup in a final against Panama.
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
You lot should join CONMEBOL - you would still qualify and would play better opposition. The US needs to play proper teams more often in order to progress.
Some crowds will still hate your guts, mind. Oh, to play away at Venezuela.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
[Also, the bags of urine they throw at us in Mexico City.
Really, the way we get treated playing in central american countries is a big reason a part of me wants CONCACAF teams to go fuck themselves.
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
You lot should join CONMEBOL - you would still qualify and would play better opposition. The US needs to play proper teams more often in order to progress.
Some crowds will still hate your guts, mind. Oh, to play away at Venezuela.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2014, 10:30:30 AMQuote from: celedhring on July 02, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
You lot should join CONMEBOL - you would still qualify and would play better opposition. The US needs to play proper teams more often in order to progress.
Some crowds will still hate your guts, mind. Oh, to play away at Venezuela.
The travel would be really tough, and I'm not sure we would be such a shoe in for qualification. They have 4.5 spots right now, and teams like Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, and Chile....not to mention other sometimes good sides like Paraguay and Ecuador.
We've been invited and played in the Copa América. More participation in that would probably make sense.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
Yeah, CONCINCPACAF is pretty much set up to guarantee US qualification.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 10:44:37 AM
It should guarantee Mexico, the US, and Canada every WC. Ah well you still have to show up and play. Those Central American teams are not push overs.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
Canada? :huh:
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 11:05:07 AMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
Canada? :huh:
You heard me. They need to step it up.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 11:44:53 AM
Soccer is basically Hockey on grass without sticks. Canadians should be fine.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 11:44:53 AM
Soccer is basically Hockey on grass without sticks. Canadians should be fine.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
I have to say the US fans have been among the most vociferous on the stadiums, and seem like a good bunch. How's the atmosphere at MSL games? I notice most clubs attract a good-sized crowd.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
I have to say the US fans have been among the most vociferous on the stadiums, and seem like a good bunch. How's the atmosphere at MSL games? I notice most clubs attract a good-sized crowd.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Also hipsters and other "cool kids" have taken over the sport here.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 12:57:07 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Also hipsters and other "cool kids" have taken over the sport here.
Hipsters and "cool kids" being sports fans? Organized sports fans? Color me skeptical.
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 12:57:07 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Also hipsters and other "cool kids" have taken over the sport here.
Hipsters and "cool kids" being sports fans? Organized sports fans? Color me skeptical.
Quote from: derspiess on July 02, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
It's not basketball, baseball, football, or hockey. That's enough for hipsters.
FunkMonk is right.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 01:09:28 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 02, 2014, 12:57:07 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Also hipsters and other "cool kids" have taken over the sport here.
Hipsters and "cool kids" being sports fans? Organized sports fans? Color me skeptical.
Eh, "taken over" is a bit much admittedly. I'll say that a lot of those types of people have flocked to the sport over the past ten years because they identify it as being different and therefore OMG COOL. Much like a fad.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 12:50:05 PM
Punch in the gob, no teeth lost.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
http://youtu.be/d6z7-u7EZ1g :D
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2014, 11:40:34 AM
Small and puny Canada, by moving its soccer / hockey slider to full hockey, wins at one and loses at the other. The strong and mighty US, by trying to win at both and keeping its slider in the middle, loses at both.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
What do you mean by incredible, Norgeswiener?
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2014, 03:19:52 PM
One of the things that you guys do that is a really good idea is charging much lower prices for season tickets for kids.
Quote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Children pay full rate in America? That really, really sounds odd to me.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 02, 2014, 05:14:50 PMQuote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Children pay full rate in America? That really, really sounds odd to me.
They take up a whole seat.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
Here is a question. In a few games I saw players grab the uniforms of the other players to pull them off the ball. In one case the player being grabbed almost had his shorts pulled right off. In each case the ref called a foul but there was no card. Why isnt such a blatant violation carded in all cases?
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
Here is a question. In a few games I saw players grab the uniforms of the other players to pull them off the ball. In one case the player being grabbed almost had his shorts pulled right off. In each case the ref called a foul but there was no card. Why isnt such a blatant violation carded in all cases?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 02, 2014, 05:14:50 PMQuote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Children pay full rate in America? That really, really sounds odd to me.
They take up a whole seat.
Quote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
So the whole argument is that they buy less beer and take up a whole seat. :hmm:
That seems remarkably short sighted of your sports owners, investing solely in the now rather than the next generation.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 02, 2014, 05:32:43 PMQuote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
So the whole argument is that they buy less beer and take up a whole seat. :hmm:
That seems remarkably short sighted of your sports owners, investing solely in the now rather than the next generation.
If their parents are unable to afford tickets for them, what makes you think they will be any different? :hmm:
Quote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
So the whole argument is that they buy less beer and take up a whole seat. :hmm:
That seems remarkably short sighted of your sports owners, investing solely in the now rather than the next generation.
Quote from: Liep on July 02, 2014, 05:18:32 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
Here is a question. In a few games I saw players grab the uniforms of the other players to pull them off the ball. In one case the player being grabbed almost had his shorts pulled right off. In each case the ref called a foul but there was no card. Why isnt such a blatant violation carded in all cases?
I don't think it's seen as a dangerous play and is judged like a normal foul. Normal tackles are usually also a blatant violation of the rules.
Normal fouls can be carded in certain situations though, like the professional "i'll just stop this counter attack from ever happening" foul.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 05:29:44 PM
One thing I noticed that help soccer in Columbus was when they got their own tiny baby stadium to play in, instead of playing to a mostly empty house at Ohio Stadium.
Now it looks impressive, instead of looking sad and pathetic.
Quote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:36:17 PMQuote from: Peter Wiggin on July 02, 2014, 05:32:43 PMQuote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
So the whole argument is that they buy less beer and take up a whole seat. :hmm:
That seems remarkably short sighted of your sports owners, investing solely in the now rather than the next generation.
If their parents are unable to afford tickets for them, what makes you think they will be any different? :hmm:
Why do you think that a parent who could only afford two adult tickets but who has two children won't see those children grow up to be able to afford two tickets each as well? :hmm:
Quote from: Agelastus on July 02, 2014, 05:36:17 PM
Why do you think that a parent who could only afford two adult tickets but who has two children won't see those children grow up to be able to afford two tickets each as well? :hmm:
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
It seems to me that pulling on a jersey to pull someone off the ball is never part of a legitimate action.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:37:56 PMQuote from: Liep on July 02, 2014, 05:18:32 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
Here is a question. In a few games I saw players grab the uniforms of the other players to pull them off the ball. In one case the player being grabbed almost had his shorts pulled right off. In each case the ref called a foul but there was no card. Why isnt such a blatant violation carded in all cases?
I don't think it's seen as a dangerous play and is judged like a normal foul. Normal tackles are usually also a blatant violation of the rules.
Normal fouls can be carded in certain situations though, like the professional "i'll just stop this counter attack from ever happening" foul.
except that normal tackles are arguably part of the game. If I understand correctly the difference between a foul and a good tackle is if the defender got to the ball before making contact. The analogy to basketball is that every foul is intentional in the sense that the player meant to do it but most fouls are commited while attempting to do something that was a legitimate action - eg trying to block a shot, take a charge or get a steal. It seems to me that pulling on a jersey to pull someone off the ball is never part of a legitimate action.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 05:43:38 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
It seems to me that pulling on a jersey to pull someone off the ball is never part of a legitimate action.
It isn't. Yet it has become part and parcel of the game as it is played.
Look at corner kick situations. Inside the box, there's a scramble and lots of holding and contact.
To my recollection, only once has a penalty ever been given for shirt-grabbing inside the box, and it befell Norway against Brazil in the 1998 World Cup. It was so rare that Moroccans still insist we paid the referee and signed some huge dried cod contract at favourable prices with Brazil, as the Moroccans went out.
If you look up my avatar, Claudio Gentile, on YouTube, there'll be plenty of ugly defending to be seen.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 05:57:45 PM
Soccer is a man's game and if you can't handle a little argybargy shirt tugging and a few blows to the midsection then you should gtfo imo
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 06:03:44 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 05:57:45 PM
Soccer is a man's game and if you can't handle a little argybargy shirt tugging and a few blows to the midsection then you should gtfo imo
I was expecting Skrtel or sakho to start knifing people. It was that blatant.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 06:08:50 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 06:03:44 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 05:57:45 PM
Soccer is a man's game and if you can't handle a little argybargy shirt tugging and a few blows to the midsection then you should gtfo imo
I was expecting Skrtel or sakho to start knifing people. It was that blatant.
Rodgers is an enabler and should be prosecuted by the crown authorities or whatever backward legal system they have in that third world country.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 06:04:46 PM
Certain players have gotten away with stuff on the pitch that would send you right in the local lockup if it happened on the street.
Like Harald "Toni"Schumacher against Patrick Battiston in 1982.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTOnClKCJc
Notice the nice Winston ciggie signs. Close-up photo:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbundesligafanatic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F02%2Furl-1.jpeg&hash=c47ea761141b64db7844396c45c2402fdf83b2da)
Schumacher basically punches him.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 06:10:36 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 06:08:50 PMQuote from: Ed Anger on July 02, 2014, 06:03:44 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 05:57:45 PM
Soccer is a man's game and if you can't handle a little argybargy shirt tugging and a few blows to the midsection then you should gtfo imo
I was expecting Skrtel or sakho to start knifing people. It was that blatant.
Rodgers is an enabler and should be prosecuted by the crown authorities or whatever backward legal system they have in that third world country.
Rodgers should be fined for letting Stirling have that haircut.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
82 was not a glorious year for the Krauts, was it? :lol:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
http://youtu.be/d6z7-u7EZ1g :D
Quote from: Viking on July 02, 2014, 07:35:26 PM
Keith Olberman caring about something is good tv, the man has pathos.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 02:24:56 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
What do you mean by incredible, Norgeswiener?
Incredibly high.
A lot of hardcore fans buy their season tickets.
Arsenal charged 985 pounds for a season ticket in 2013. That's expensive. The cheapest was Manchester City at 299.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 06:04:46 PM
Certain players have gotten away with stuff on the pitch that would send you right in the local lockup if it happened on the street.
Like Harald "Toni"Schumacher against Patrick Battiston in 1982.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTOnClKCJc
Notice the nice Winston ciggie signs. Close-up photo:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbundesligafanatic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F02%2Furl-1.jpeg&hash=c47ea761141b64db7844396c45c2402fdf83b2da)
Schumacher basically punches him.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:39:46 PMWas this well known here? :unsure:
Being Mexican-American I hold allegiance to both Mexico and USA at soccer matches, though when they face each other I always root for America.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2014, 09:18:00 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:39:46 PMWas this well known here? :unsure:
Being Mexican-American I hold allegiance to both Mexico and USA at soccer matches, though when they face each other I always root for America.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
My family never moved. It was the goddamn border that moved. :ultra: :P
I also rooted for Mexico and got mad when the Dutch kicked them out. :(
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
My family never moved. It was the goddamn border that moved. :ultra: :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2014, 09:18:00 PMyes, yes it was.Quote from: FunkMonk on July 02, 2014, 12:39:46 PMWas this well known here? :unsure:
Being Mexican-American I hold allegiance to both Mexico and USA at soccer matches, though when they face each other I always root for America.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 06:36:26 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
82 was not a glorious year for the Krauts, was it? :lol:
They reached the final, and had a few outstanding players. A very experienced midfield enforcer in Paul Breitner, Schumacher in goal (who was usually very solid) and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, one of the finest forwards of his generation. Then they met Italy, a team that had perfected the so-called catenaccio. A very solid defence, and one single forward who could win games: Paulo Rossi. I think he was banned for a few seasons due to irregularities. Italy was the most destructive team to have won a World Cup, I think. Their tactics were rotten and dirty, yet I have some grudging respect for say Gentile, who was a destroyer of quality players in almost every game. He had Maradona and Zico in his pocket.
Quote from: Norgy on July 02, 2014, 06:04:46 PMI wonder if he's related to Michael. They seem to have the same relationship with ethics.
Certain players have gotten away with stuff on the pitch that would send you right in the local lockup if it happened on the street.
Like Harald "Toni"Schumacher against Patrick Battiston in 1982.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTOnClKCJc
Notice the nice Winston ciggie signs. Close-up photo:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbundesligafanatic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F02%2Furl-1.jpeg&hash=c47ea761141b64db7844396c45c2402fdf83b2da)
Schumacher basically punches him.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AM
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 04, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
At least Germany didnt have to go through Belguim to get to France this time.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AMHe's right though
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AM
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 04, 2014, 10:29:44 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AMHe's right though
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
Quote from: sbr on July 04, 2014, 10:34:02 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AM
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
ESPN hired him as an analyst for the World Cup, he is getting paid to express his opinion. :huh:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 10:58:44 AM:D And in the meanwhile, Germany's up 1-0Quote from: sbr on July 04, 2014, 10:34:02 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AM
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
ESPN hired him as an analyst for the World Cup, he is getting paid to express his opinion. :huh:
If only I could get paid for expressing bad opinions. I'd be a millionaire. :(
Quote from: sbr on July 04, 2014, 10:34:02 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 08:55:49 AM
Landon Donovan has been having a moan in the press, criticizing Klinsmann's tactics saying he wasn't attacking enough. :huh:
Dude just needs to stfu and get over the fact he couldn't fit into the team. I can see why Klinsy left him at home. What a fucking loser. Shameful.
ESPN hired him as an analyst for the World Cup, he is getting paid to express his opinion. :huh:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Allez!
:frog:
:(
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 04, 2014, 01:00:16 PM
ÀQuote from: FunkMonk on July 04, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Allez!
:frog:
:(
à la maison !
Quote from: Monoriu on July 04, 2014, 12:59:31 PM
Cool result. Germany will be there to stop Columbia in case Brazil fails.
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 04, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
At least this time the defense seemed to know what it was doing.
Quote from: Norgy on July 04, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
Countries starting with "C" have been doing well. I shall diligently work to rename Norway Corway for the next World Cup. :uffda: :shifty:
Quote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
Colombians got this one
Quote from: Valmy on July 04, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
:cry:
Worst. World Cup. Ever.
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 04:54:00 PM
The guy who injured Neymar needs police protection.
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
And why wasn't the goalie expelled? Taking down a player who would've scored as the last man?
Quote from: Josephus on July 04, 2014, 05:15:19 PM
David Luiz got the crowd to applaud James Rodriguez. Classy.
Quote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 01:55:31 PMor not
Colombians got this one
Quote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 06:18:11 PMQuote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 01:55:31 PMor not
Colombians got this one
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 04, 2014, 06:20:00 PMlol I only made one prediction! Well that and Germany taking it, but I made that at the beginningQuote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 06:18:11 PMQuote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 01:55:31 PMor not
Colombians got this one
New Tamas!
Quote from: Josephus on July 04, 2014, 06:20:26 PM
I was expecting Brazil to win this world cup but an injury to neymar on a team short of attack options could be deadly
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
Looks like Neymar isn't going to be ready for the semis.
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
Well that's Brazil out of the equation. I hear Fred burst out in tears when he got the message, I guess he knows the country will be expecting him to actually do stuff now.
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 07:20:20 PM:lol:
Well that's Brazil out of the equation. I hear Fred burst out in tears when he got the message, I guess he knows the country will be expecting him to actually do stuff now.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 04, 2014, 04:34:56 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 04, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
:cry:
Worst. World Cup. Ever.
Worse than 2002 or 2010 ?
Quote from: HVC on July 04, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
:unsure:
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 04, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
After such an exiting group phase, this knockout stage has brought back the boring world cup :bleeding:
Quote from: dps on July 04, 2014, 07:04:50 PMQuote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
Looks like Neymar isn't going to be ready for the semis.
They're now saying he has a fractured vertebrae and will be out of the rest of the Cup.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 04, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
After such an exiting group phase, this knockout stage has brought back the boring world cup :bleeding:
Quote from: dps on July 04, 2014, 11:52:49 PM
In group play, it seemed like everyone was actually trying to win, instead of the stereotype of the strong teams just playing for a draw against each other and then beating up on the weak sides. But now in the knockout stages, they seem to be trying to get to penalties.
Quote from: The Larch on July 05, 2014, 06:15:43 AM
Important stuff, who folds his arms better in the player presentations?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html)
Quote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:21:49 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 05, 2014, 06:15:43 AM
Important stuff, who folds his arms better in the player presentations?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html)
:lol:
I was wondering from day 1 why they made the players do that, it looks ridiculous. The only one not looking stupid might be the winner, so I guess slate is on to something here.
Quote from: DGuller on July 04, 2014, 10:36:15 PM
Apart from that, I was a little surprised that soccer medics don't use a backboard. It was clear that Neymar's back was injured, possibly seriously. I winced when they were just rolling him into that box like a rag doll.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2014, 01:07:28 AMQuote from: dps on July 04, 2014, 11:52:49 PM
In group play, it seemed like everyone was actually trying to win, instead of the stereotype of the strong teams just playing for a draw against each other and then beating up on the weak sides. But now in the knockout stages, they seem to be trying to get to penalties.
I have a different read. I think the both teams have been playing cautiously in their first halves: the favorites because they think they can win any game, except one where they dig themselves a 2-0 hole, and the underdogs because they think they can win a compressed, one half game more easily than if they go end to end for 90 minutes.
Quote from: The Larch on July 05, 2014, 06:23:00 AMQuote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:21:49 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 05, 2014, 06:15:43 AM
Important stuff, who folds his arms better in the player presentations?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/03/world_cup_player_introductions_a_deep_analysis_of_how_soccer_players_fold.html)
:lol:
I was wondering from day 1 why they made the players do that, it looks ridiculous. The only one not looking stupid might be the winner, so I guess slate is on to something here.
It can look cool, but the potential for ridiculousness is very high. :lol:
Quote from: Tamas on July 05, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
I don't know who will win in Argentina vs. Belgium, but it will happen in extra time.
Quote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 09:37:02 AM
Not a proper sports day without Tour de France.
Quote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
Costa Rica is the last hope in the battle against Mono. Don't fail us.
Quote from: Tamas on July 05, 2014, 10:23:47 AM:lol: Don't ever change, Tamas. Seriously, I've got a lot of money with bookies on the line. :ph34r:
I don't know who will win in Argentina vs. Belgium, but it will happen in extra time.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 04, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
After such an exiting group phase, this knockout stage has brought back the boring world cup :bleeding:
Quote from: Zoupa on July 05, 2014, 02:28:27 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 04, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
After such an exiting group phase, this knockout stage has brought back the boring world cup :bleeding:
Pretty much... Its too bad really. None of these games will be remembered.
Quote from: Syt on July 05, 2014, 03:28:52 PM
Regardless of the quality of matches, you know what really annoys me about the World Cup?
How bland it's become. There's almost no local atmosphere from the stadiums. The broadcasts might as well come from European stadiums, and hardcore fans have been priced out of tickets (as a commentator mentioned even league games at the new Maracana are out of reach now for most average fans). Music instruments, flagpoles etc. are verboten.
The stadiums all look pretty much the same.
And I can imagine it's as bland in the stadiums where you're accosted not to local specialties, but only the sponsor approved beers and snacks, and if you want to pay without cash you can only pay with the sponsor's credit card. It's like going to a foreign country, and then avoiding all local food in favor of international franchise chains.
Quote from: HVC on July 05, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
God I hate the dutch
Quote from: HVC on July 05, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
God I hate the dutch
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 05, 2014, 05:53:13 PMnever forget Nuremberg.Quote from: HVC on July 05, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
God I hate the dutch
Quote from: Zanza on July 05, 2014, 05:54:04 PM
That new goalie was annoying.
Quote from: Norgy on July 05, 2014, 06:09:24 PM
You're some sort of Asian Illuminati-Templar-Freemason aren't you? :hmm:
Quote from: Monoriu on July 05, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Mission accomplished. All North American, Asian and African teams out. Victory for the status quo.
The next stage is to get rid of Netherlands to ensure that only a team that has won a WC before will win it this time.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 05, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Mission accomplished. All North American, Asian and African teams out. Victory for the status quo.
The next stage is to get rid of Netherlands to ensure that only a team that has won a WC before will win it this time.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2014, 06:22:24 PMQuote from: Monoriu on July 05, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Mission accomplished. All North American, Asian and African teams out. Victory for the status quo.
The next stage is to get rid of Netherlands to ensure that only a team that has won a WC before will win it this time.
I think you lost here. Costa rica was not going to win the wc, but the dutch might. Sure the dutch are favored under your system, but no one will remember this match. The bigger picture is who will be champion.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 05, 2014, 06:21:36 PMQuote from: Monoriu on July 05, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Mission accomplished. All North American, Asian and African teams out. Victory for the status quo.
The next stage is to get rid of Netherlands to ensure that only a team that has won a WC before will win it this time.
You also need to get rid of Germany so a South American team wins in South America. :contract:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 05, 2014, 06:28:51 PM
One year, you get a cake without icing. Maybe the next time you get a pie instead. Or a doughnut. :P
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 05, 2014, 05:53:13 PMQuote from: HVC on July 05, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
God I hate the dutch
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2014, 05:58:27 PMQuote from: Zanza on July 05, 2014, 05:54:04 PM
That new goalie was annoying.
He should have been booked but he is good at stopping penalties.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 05, 2014, 06:29:49 PM
I don't like Van Persie. He looks like a douche.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
I don't get the Dutch hate.
Quote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:42:38 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
I don't get the Dutch hate.
I only heard this game on the radio, but judging from the commentator Robben was flapping all around again. They're the Portugal of Northern Europe.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2014, 06:46:07 PMQuote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:42:38 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
I don't get the Dutch hate.
I only heard this game on the radio, but judging from the commentator Robben was flapping all around again. They're the Portugal of Northern Europe.
Wow, still bitter about not making it to the WC. :lol:
All teams dive and flop but some people like Müller or Robben profit from it since they are more "popular" among the referees.
Quote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:57:58 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2014, 06:46:07 PMQuote from: Liep on July 05, 2014, 06:42:38 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
I don't get the Dutch hate.
I only heard this game on the radio, but judging from the commentator Robben was flapping all around again. They're the Portugal of Northern Europe.
Wow, still bitter about not making it to the WC. :lol:
All teams dive and flop but some people like Müller or Robben profit from it since they are more "popular" among the referees.
I don't think I can blame Robben or Holland for that. :huh:
Also, yes, if I were to hate all divers I'd be out of a sport, but Robben does it more annoyingly than others. Can't explain it, there probably isn't any explanation.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 05, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
Please god let there be an Argentina - Brazil final at the Maracanã and then have a Messi hat trick in a 5-0 demolition of Brazil.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 05, 2014, 07:34:29 PMpeople would die. Not from disappointment. I mean literally die.
Please god let there be an Argentina - Brazil final at the Maracana and then have a Messi hat trick in a 5-0 demolition of Brazil.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2014, 07:47:21 PM
Have to also root for the dutch, because of mono. :P
Quote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
1. Why is this thread unstickied?
Quote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
Couple things.
1. Why is this thread unstickied?
Quote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
2. What happened to the Brazilian samba drums? You'd always hear them at world cups when Brazil played. I haven't heard them this time around
Quote from: The Larch on July 06, 2014, 07:42:29 AMQuote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
2. What happened to the Brazilian samba drums? You'd always hear them at world cups when Brazil played. I haven't heard them this time around
Apparently musical instruments are banned in the stadiums.
Quote from: Maladict on July 05, 2014, 06:33:08 PMTotally agreed. I watched the game till the end of regular time, then when this morning i've read that VG kept one of his substitutions for the keeper at 120', I was 'he's a fucking genius'.Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2014, 05:58:27 PMQuote from: Zanza on July 05, 2014, 05:54:04 PM
That new goalie was annoying.
He should have been booked but he is good at stopping penalties.
Van Gaal is a genius.
Quote from: Pedrito on July 06, 2014, 12:43:19 PMQuote from: Maladict on July 05, 2014, 06:33:08 PMTotally agreed. I watched the game till the end of regular time, then when this morning i've read that VG kept one of his substitutions for the keeper at 120', I was 'he's a fucking genius'.Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2014, 05:58:27 PMQuote from: Zanza on July 05, 2014, 05:54:04 PM
That new goalie was annoying.
He should have been booked but he is good at stopping penalties.
Van Gaal is a genius.
L.
Quote from: DGuller on July 06, 2014, 06:46:42 PM
I'm surprised that the idea of a penalty shootout ringer goalkeeper never occurred to anyone before. It seems like a no-brainer to me.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 06, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Actually, while it is a big risk, the ideal outcome may be a win. The dutch losing in the finals is becoming a pedictable tradition.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 06, 2014, 07:57:15 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 06, 2014, 07:42:29 AMQuote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
2. What happened to the Brazilian samba drums? You'd always hear them at world cups when Brazil played. I haven't heard them this time around
Apparently musical instruments are banned in the stadiums.
You can blame South Africa for that one.
Quote from: Liep on July 04, 2014, 05:49:03 PM
Costa Rica and Belgium can still provide hope in these dark times.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:21:40 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 06, 2014, 07:57:15 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 06, 2014, 07:42:29 AMQuote from: Josephus on July 05, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
2. What happened to the Brazilian samba drums? You'd always hear them at world cups when Brazil played. I haven't heard them this time around
Apparently musical instruments are banned in the stadiums.
You can blame South Africa for that one.
I know the lame horn things sucked but come on now.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:35:16 AMi muted several games. And Frances hilarious implosion was half the fun.
The thing that ruined the 2010 World Cup were the shitty games. And France sucking ass.
The obnoxious horns were the only thing notable about it.
Quote from: HVC on July 07, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
And Frances hilarious implosion was half the fun.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:38:00 AMcome on, if it wasn't your team you'd laugh too. Player rebellion, striking practice, it was a weird display of million dollar cry babies. England tried too that year, but France did it betterQuote from: HVC on July 07, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
And Frances hilarious implosion was half the fun.
YOU MOCK MY PAIN!
Quote from: HVC on July 07, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
come on, if it wasn't your team you'd laugh too. Player rebellion, striking practice, it was a weird display of million dollar cry babies. England tried too that year, but France did it better
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 AMThe icing on the shit cake was the conspiracy to get more white Frenchmen on the team that was revealed later.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 AMQuote from: HVC on July 07, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
come on, if it wasn't your team you'd laugh too. Player rebellion, striking practice, it was a weird display of million dollar cry babies. England tried too that year, but France did it better
The icing on the shit cake was the conspiracy to get more white Frenchmen on the team that was revealed later.
Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2014, 09:09:48 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 AMThe icing on the shit cake was the conspiracy to get more white Frenchmen on the team that was revealed later.
You mean Laurent Blanc's words? IIRC they were slightly taken out of context and were not that damning.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 09:17:16 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 07, 2014, 09:09:48 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 AMThe icing on the shit cake was the conspiracy to get more white Frenchmen on the team that was revealed later.
You mean Laurent Blanc's words? IIRC they were slightly taken out of context and were not that damning.
That a fact? You have to understand the coverage of French soccer is pretty spotty over here :P
Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2014, 09:52:01 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 09:17:16 AMQuote from: The Larch on July 07, 2014, 09:09:48 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 AMThe icing on the shit cake was the conspiracy to get more white Frenchmen on the team that was revealed later.
You mean Laurent Blanc's words? IIRC they were slightly taken out of context and were not that damning.
That a fact? You have to understand the coverage of French soccer is pretty spotty over here :P
Well, I'm a bit fuzzy about the details, several years have passed since then after all, but IIRC the gist of Blanc's tirade was that the French youth teams had to improve their talent scouting because way too often they'd pick players based mostly in physical development rather than technique, which would make the national team lose out on technical players down the line. The subtext is that the more physical players would be blacks and the more technical ones whites, but I can't remember if that was said out loud, left unspoken as subtext or a post facto press invention.
Quote from: Tamas on July 08, 2014, 04:18:49 AM
I am betting on Germany reaching the final.
Quote from: Tamas on July 08, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
:D My main reason for it is that my joy after the match is guaranteed: if Germany wins I'll be happy for my extra 90 pence (oh hells yeah), if Brazil wins, I will be happy to see Germany out.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 06, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
The dutch losing in the finals is becoming a pedictable tradition.
Quote from: Maladict on July 08, 2014, 06:01:23 AMQuote from: Tamas on July 08, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
:D My main reason for it is that my joy after the match is guaranteed: if Germany wins I'll be happy for my extra 90 pence (oh hells yeah), if Brazil wins, I will be happy to see Germany out.
I don't know, Brazilian tears will be delicious. But maybe even more so if they lose the final.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 08, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
I want to see them finish out the cup with two losses.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 08, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
I want to see them finish out the cup with two losses.
Quote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Viva Brazil!
QuoteGerman Team Hoping To Lift Nation's Spirit Following Reports Of 5% Unemploymenthttp://www.theonion.com/articles/german-team-hoping-to-lift-nations-spirit-followin,36416/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
SPORTS NEWS IN BRIEF • Sports • Womens Sports And Soccer • ISSUE 50•27 • Jul 8, 2014
RIO DE JANEIRO—Aspiring to provide a boost for the beaten down nation, members of the Germany national soccer team expressed hope Tuesday that a victory over Brazil in the World Cup semifinals will help lift up their countrymen following reports that their current unemployment rate sits at 5 percent. "A win today would mean so much to Germany during tough times like these," said midfielder Thomas Muller, confirming that a strong showing on the pitch has the potential to offer a much-needed escape, if only for one afternoon, to a country currently facing the bitter reality of ranking behind four other nations on the Human Development Index. "We know that we can't change the fact that our average countryman's life expectancy is 80.89 years, or that we're still waiting on a high-speed rail line to connect Hanau and Gelnhausen. But maybe, in some small way, we can use this game today to remind everyone that it is still a great thing to be a German." Muller added that he and the team intend on praying before the game for the growing segment of the German population reportedly dissatisfied with their universal health care.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
I suppose an interesting stat will be how many questionable calls Brazil will need to overcome the German side.
Quote from: Jacob on July 08, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
No chance of officiating being done by the rules of the game with no attempts at favouring either side?
Quote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
Home team always gets at least a slight advantage on calls, whether it's a FIFA conspiracy or not.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 08, 2014, 02:06:00 PM
They may try to salvage credibility
Quote from: Agelastus on July 08, 2014, 03:19:57 PM
Although on the subject of the Languish Pool how come we seem to have dropped three more players?
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
Brazilian defense :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
Is there a mercy rule? :hmm:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 03:39:20 PM
Germany have been slow since Ghana game but they seem to be unstoppable now. Four World Cups incoming :bowler:
Quote from: Zanza on July 08, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Brazil hasn't lost a competitive home game since 1975. :ph34r:
Quote from: Norgy on July 08, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
Everyone knows man flu is the worst disease in the world!
Brazil's defence's been shaky all through the World Cup and no Thiago Silva certainly hasn't improved it.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 03:49:06 PM
I cannot ever recall a World Cup half quite like this before.
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 03:45:38 PMQuote from: Norgy on July 08, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
Everyone knows man flu is the worst disease in the world!
Brazil's defence's been shaky all through the World Cup and no Thiago Silva certainly hasn't improved it.
The funny thing is on paper their defense should be extremely good.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 03:59:37 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6OFeADU.jpg&hash=5383b596b69f7f884bfe8dc675d3c102f4a0b358)
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
GER-ARG final? Would be their third final against each other. Or a GER-NED rematch? Either way historic.
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
GER-ARG final? Would be their third final against each other. Or a GER-NED rematch? Either way historic.
Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2014, 04:12:26 PM
Brazil is going all out for a comfort goal. Interesting.
Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2014, 04:14:54 PM
Neuer. :w00t:
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 04:27:17 PM
Brazilians booing Fred every time he touches the ball.
Quote from: Jacob on July 08, 2014, 04:10:40 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
GER-ARG final? Would be their third final against each other. Or a GER-NED rematch? Either way historic.
Don't sell Brazil short. They can still turn it around...
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 04:28:56 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 04:27:17 PM
Brazilians booing Fred every time he touches the ball.
So once or twice?
Quote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
This is so damned hilarious.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 04:32:58 PM...how much was paid, the 0-6?
Woot Woot Woot Woot Woot Woot
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 04:32:38 PMQuote from: Hansmeister on July 08, 2014, 04:28:56 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 04:27:17 PM
Brazilians booing Fred every time he touches the ball.
So once or twice?
Ouch :XD:
Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2014, 04:25:27 PM
I'm surprised so many Brazilians has stayed at the stadium.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
If Germany can get 7 it will be the worst defeat ever suffered by the Brazilian national team.
Quote from: The Brain on July 08, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
I'm told that Sweden beating Cuba 8-0 in 1938 is the record to aim for when it comes to World Cup elimination games.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
If Germany can get 7 it will be the worst defeat ever suffered by the Brazilian national team.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
If Germany can get 7 it will be the worst defeat ever suffered by the Brazilian national team.
Quote from: Jacob on July 08, 2014, 04:42:33 PM
This is historic.
Also funny... the CBC's screen graphic for listing the goals is too small, so they have to use scrolling text to show the times for all 7.
Quote from: Pedrito on July 08, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
I don't know if having Neymar and Thiago Silva on the pitch would've changed the outcome.
L.
Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2014, 04:51:56 PM
Here we go, there's still injury time left.
Quote from: Jacob on July 08, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
That was a nice goal by Brazil at the end there.
Quote from: Syt on July 08, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Well, let's hope that this doesn't get to the players' heads too much and doesn't lead to them underestimating the next opponent.
Quote from: Syt on July 08, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Well, let's hope that this doesn't get to the players' heads too much and doesn't lead to them underestimating the next opponent.
Quote from: Syt on July 08, 2014, 04:59:00 PMMüller just sounded very realistic in the post match interview.
Well, let's hope that this doesn't get to the players' heads too much and doesn't lead to them underestimating the next opponent.
QuoteTwitter Sure Does Have a Lot of Nazi and Holocaust Jokes for the Germany-Brazil Game!
Five first-half goals for Germany left Brazil stunned and teary-eyed in today's World Cup semifinal and it only got worse from there. But for the amateur comedians of the internet, German dominance can mean only one thing: time for some Holocaust jokes. By the time finals-bound Germany scored its sixth and seventh goals, "Nazi" was trending on Twitter and just about every variation of an edgy but not-too-offensive Hitler or World War II reference had been used and reused. The onslaught was not as ugly as the game, but not quite as funny either.
A brief sample, because you'll quickly get the idea:
Binyamin Appelbaum: The Germans have stormed into a foreign country and taken charge. How unexpected.
Andy Farag: Germany must think they are playing Poland the way they are conquering Brazil right now
Daniel Kibblesmith: Man the goalie really holocaust them the game, I bet Brazil's coach was like Aw Schwitz
Spencer Ackerman: What Brazil doesn't realize is that if Germany wins it *will* conquer & colonize the good parts of the country.
Joshua Benton: Flush With Confidence, Germany Launches Land War in Asia
Sasha Frere-Jones: The Germans will just deny the match ever happened.
Max Silvestri: Probably already some Germans denying this many goals were scored. "The number of 5 is exaggerated."
John Podhoretz: I guess this is one thing you can't make a Downfall parody clip out of
World Cup 2014: Brazil did Nazi this coming.
Pabeats Baeless: Stop with these nazi jokes, they're not funny. Anne Frankly, they're offensive
Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2014, 01:17:01 PMQuote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Viva Brazil!
Jogo Bonito or death. :weep:
Quote from: Zanza on July 08, 2014, 03:57:55 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDLMrwCAAIkFt4.jpg)
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Woot Woot woo.... oh nevermind.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 04, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
I didnt need 4 picks to get it right. I only picked Brazil.
Quote from: PRC on July 08, 2014, 05:24:16 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Woot Woot woo.... oh nevermind.Quote from: crazy canuck on June 04, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
I didnt need 4 picks to get it right. I only picked Brazil.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 05:25:58 PMQuote from: PRC on July 08, 2014, 05:24:16 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Woot Woot woo.... oh nevermind.Quote from: crazy canuck on June 04, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
I didnt need 4 picks to get it right. I only picked Brazil.
I have to show some imperfections now and then.
Quote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Viva Brazil!
Quote from: Maladict on July 08, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
Fred's heat map :lol:
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Quote from: mongers on July 08, 2014, 05:45:26 PMQuote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Viva Brazil!
This is a Timmayesque level of taint.
Looks like our Korean exiled friend has found a deputy. :P
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
I am sure the Brazilian taxpayers are even more delighted about hosting this thing now.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
7-1 was flattering to Brazil. :wacko:
Quote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 05:49:59 PMQuote from: mongers on July 08, 2014, 05:45:26 PMQuote from: Barrister on July 08, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Viva Brazil!
This is a Timmayesque level of taint.
Looks like our Korean exiled friend has found a deputy. :P
:huh: I was bandwagoning for Brazil the entire tournament. They made it to the semi-finals.
Quote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
Also, I think Germany just scored again.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 06:33:54 PMQuote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
Also, I think Germany just scored again.
Everyone in Germany will score tonight.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 08, 2014, 06:38:48 PM
What's the heat map supposed to show?
Quote from: Syt on July 08, 2014, 05:10:41 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/nazi-holocaust-jokes-during-germany-brazil-world-cup.html?mid=facebook_nymagQuoteTwitter Sure Does Have a Lot of Nazi and Holocaust Jokes for the Germany-Brazil Game!
Five first-half goals for Germany left Brazil stunned and teary-eyed in today's World Cup semifinal and it only got worse from there. But for the amateur comedians of the internet, German dominance can mean only one thing: time for some Holocaust jokes. By the time finals-bound Germany scored its sixth and seventh goals, "Nazi" was trending on Twitter and just about every variation of an edgy but not-too-offensive Hitler or World War II reference had been used and reused. The onslaught was not as ugly as the game, but not quite as funny either.
A brief sample, because you'll quickly get the idea:
Binyamin Appelbaum: The Germans have stormed into a foreign country and taken charge. How unexpected.
Andy Farag: Germany must think they are playing Poland the way they are conquering Brazil right now
Daniel Kibblesmith: Man the goalie really holocaust them the game, I bet Brazil's coach was like Aw Schwitz
Spencer Ackerman: What Brazil doesn't realize is that if Germany wins it *will* conquer & colonize the good parts of the country.
Joshua Benton: Flush With Confidence, Germany Launches Land War in Asia
Sasha Frere-Jones: The Germans will just deny the match ever happened.
Max Silvestri: Probably already some Germans denying this many goals were scored. "The number of 5 is exaggerated."
John Podhoretz: I guess this is one thing you can't make a Downfall parody clip out of
World Cup 2014: Brazil did Nazi this coming.
Pabeats Baeless: Stop with these nazi jokes, they're not funny. Anne Frankly, they're offensive
Quote from: celedhring on July 08, 2014, 03:32:59 PMColombia and Chile didn't die for that :weep:
The Emperor has no clothes.
Brazil had been shit so far, hence the first truly good team they face = rape.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 08, 2014, 06:33:54 PMQuote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
Also, I think Germany just scored again.
Everyone in Germany will score tonight.
Quote from: Josephus on July 08, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
Historic.
Speechless.
Quote from: Agelastus on July 08, 2014, 03:30:05 PM
Oh well. Brazil look down and out. 4-0 and gone.
Maybe I should go to sleep...
[A reference to the 1990 World Cup where I turned off, turned over and went to sleep in disgust at England going 2-1 down...only to dream that they'd won 3-2 and lo and behold woke up the next morning to find it so.]
Quote from: Monoriu on July 08, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
Oh well. It doesn't really hurt the status quo for Germany to get into the finals. What is really important is to get rid of the Dutch.
Quote from: derspiess on July 08, 2014, 07:49:59 PMcant tell if number 9 is ecstatic or terrified.
http://www.sfgate.com/worldcup/slideshow/Brazil-fans-mourn-World-Cup-thrashing-by-Germany-89280.php
I probably missed several of the shots of shocked and crying Brazil fans during the telecast, so this helped make up for it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 08, 2014, 08:01:20 PMyou're on the list <_<
I'm rooting for the Dutch. :smoke:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 08, 2014, 08:01:20 PM
I'm rooting for the Dutch. :smoke:
Quote from: HVC on July 08, 2014, 08:03:00 PM
you're on the list <_<
QuoteIt took just less than three minutes of real time—2 minutes, 58 seconds to be precise—for Germany to score goals two, three, and four. Amazingly, the ball was in play for just 76 seconds during this three-goal bonanza. That's three goals in an average of 25 seconds each.
If you include the fifth goal, Germany notched its last four tallies of the first half in 6 minutes and 40 seconds of real time. The ball was in play for 4:06, so Germany scored goals two through five in just more than a minute apiece.
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 01:56:53 AMQuoteIt took just less than three minutes of real time—2 minutes, 58 seconds to be precise—for Germany to score goals two, three, and four. Amazingly, the ball was in play for just 76 seconds during this three-goal bonanza. That's three goals in an average of 25 seconds each.
If you include the fifth goal, Germany notched its last four tallies of the first half in 6 minutes and 40 seconds of real time. The ball was in play for 4:06, so Germany scored goals two through five in just more than a minute apiece.
Still unbelievable.
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 01:56:53 AM
Still unbelievable.
Quote from: Maladict on July 09, 2014, 02:16:49 AMQuote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 01:56:53 AM
Still unbelievable.
It really is. One for the ages.
Quote from: Syt on July 09, 2014, 02:48:34 AM
Also, considering that Lahm, Schweinsteiger and a few others will probably not play in the next WC it would be a deserved crowning of everything they did since 2006 if they win it on Sunday.
QuoteMatch Facts
This is the first time a team have scored seven goals in a World Cup semi-final.
This is the first World Cup game with eight or more goals since Saudi Arabia v Germany in 2002 (0-8).
No team had previously conceded five or more goals by half-time in a World Cup semi-final.
This is Brazil's biggest defeat in World Cup finals history, surpassing their 3-0 loss to France in the final in 1998.
Germany scored two more goals in this game, 7, than England did in their past two World Cups combined.
Brazil's first shot on target was in the 51st minute.
Brazil have never before conceded more than five goals in a World Cup game (winning 6-5 against Poland in 1938).
The game equals Brazil's all-time biggest margin of defeat, when they lost 6-0 to Uruguay in 1920.
It is the first time since 1938 that Brazil have lost a World Cup semi-final, having progressed in their previous six.
The previous biggest defeat in a semi-final was in 1954 when Germany beat Austria 6-1.
Quote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 03:53:41 AM
Most surprising fact is that Austria has ever been in a WC.
Quote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 03:53:41 AM
Most surprising fact is that Austria has ever been in a WC semi final.
Quote from: Syt on July 09, 2014, 03:49:07 AM
Germany scored two more goals in this game, 7, than England did in their past two World Cups combined.
Quote from: Tyr on July 09, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
The Brazilians taking Neymar's shirt onto the field with them to sing the anthem- what did it for them?
In retrospect....it seems to have psyched them out...
QuoteNYC's Empire State Building lit in gold, red and black to honor Germany's #WorldCup win over Brazil. pic.twitter.com/z1t0ixIC4H
Quote from: dps on July 09, 2014, 06:32:37 AMQuote from: Tyr on July 09, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
The Brazilians taking Neymar's shirt onto the field with them to sing the anthem- what did it for them?
In retrospect....it seems to have psyched them out...
Objectively, what good does a show of respect, concern, solidarity, and/or friendship with an injuried teammate do for anyone?
Quote from: Syt on July 09, 2014, 06:40:16 AM
https://twitter.com/ABCNewsLive/status/486695408907739137/photo/1QuoteNYC's Empire State Building lit in gold, red and black to honor Germany's #WorldCup win over Brazil. pic.twitter.com/z1t0ixIC4H
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsEW5J8CMAIYqDM.jpg)
:unsure:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:21:05 AMMaybe it was Scolari? :hmm:
Surely a person didn't actually lay that bet. :huh:
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2014, 08:22:14 AMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:21:05 AMMaybe it was Scolari? :hmm:
Surely a person didn't actually lay that bet. :huh:
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
I have a feeling that today's game is going to be a bit of a letdown. It seems like both teams would okay with going to the penalties rather than risking an attacking play tactic.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:21:05 AM
Surely a person didn't actually lay that bet. :huh:
Quote from: derspiess on July 09, 2014, 10:00:18 AM
Disappointed by the lack of a Google doodle to commemorate yesterday's spectacle.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2014, 11:09:53 AM
I dont't think there's a Google Doodle of the soccer equivalent Stukas divebombing Warsaw in football kit.
Quote from: Syt on July 09, 2014, 06:30:39 AM
The match also set a new TV viewership record: 32.57 million, breaking the record of the 2010 semifinal (31.1 million). It's now the most viewed TV broadcast in Germany.
Market share: 87.8%.
And yes, the top ten most viewed broadcasts in Germany are *all* football matches.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 09, 2014, 09:22:16 AMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:21:05 AM
Surely a person didn't actually lay that bet. :huh:
Imagine being the person who bet Germany winning 7-0.
QuoteESPNFC.com's editorial desks from around the world ranked the 32 teams competing in the World Cup. Is your team too high or too low? Tell us what you think in the comments section or on Twitter.
1. Brazil
Host nation + pre-tournament favourites = what can possibly go wrong?
2. Spain
A tournament too far, or a shot at glory inspired by a one-time Brazil international?
3. Germany
After being there or thereabouts so often, can they finally win something?
4. Argentina
A World Cup win in the home of their bitter rivals -- surely not?
5. Italy
What's it to be, Azzurri -- more 2006-like heroics, or a repeat of 2010's dreadful showing?
6. Portugal
The reigning Ballon d'Or winner has never won a World Cup. Can Cristiano Ronaldo buck the trend?
7. Belgium
They're too good and too often discussed to be considered "dark horses," aren't they?
8. Netherlands
Their big three stars are all 30-plus -- can they come together for old times' sake?
9. Colombia
Falcao made them fashionable, but can they thrive without their talisman?
10. Chile
Another hipster choice, but will they even escape a group featuring both 2012 finalists?
11. Uruguay
Susceptible at the back, though strong in attack ... but how fit is Luis Suarez?
12. France
It can't be worse than 2010 (can it?), but without Franck Ribery, what can Les Bleus achieve?
13. England
Will the real Wayne Rooney finally show up at a World Cup?
14. Switzerland
They beat Spain in the 2010 opener -- can their young stars make an impact in Brazil?
15. Croatia
Playing for second in their group, or capable of giving the hosts a bloody nose in the opener?
16. Ivory Coast
There's no "Group of Death" excuse this time, but have their veterans' legs got anything left?
17. Ghana
So close to the last four in South Africa, but surely their group this year is too tough?
18. Russia
Can Fabio Capello make everyone forget the embarrassing last time he was on the World Cup stage?
19. USA
Facing their coach's homeland, Ronaldo and their World Cup nemesis Ghana, how can they escape their group?
20. Mexico
Was their shambolic qualifying campaign a teachable moment or a sign of things to come?
21. Japan
Can Shinji Kagawa and Keisuke Honda shine for their country after disappointing club seasons?
22. Nigeria
The Super Eagles are African champions, but can they transfer that form to the world stage?
23. Bosnia and Herzegovina
It's their debut on the big stage -- will a potent forward line help them make a big impact?
24. Ecuador
They're the lowest-ranked of the six South American participants -- is that fair?
25. South Korea
Can these perennial qualifiers recapture the spirit of their 2002 semifinal run?
26. Greece
We'll hear all about Euro 2004's success every time they play, but can they make some new memories?
27. Costa Rica
If they are just to be spoilers in their group, which of England, Uruguay and Italy will they frustrate?
28. Cameroon
Twenty-four years after Roger Milla danced them to the Italia '90 semis, can they make a splash in Samuel Eto'o's swan song?
29. Australia
There's no way the Socceroos can escape a group featuring Spain, Netherlands and Chile, is there?
30. Honduras
They beat the U.S. and won in Mexico during qualifying -- should they be ranked higher?
31. Algeria
They frustrated England in a bore draw four years ago -- can they catch anyone out this time around?
32. Iran
Are Carlos Queiroz's men really the worst team in the World Cup?
Quote from: George RR MartinSpoiler Alert! I wrote the script for this World Cup game.
Quote from: Syt on July 09, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
https://twitter.com/GRRM/status/486607034050420738Quote from: George RR MartinSpoiler Alert! I wrote the script for this World Cup game.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
It just struck me: how impressive of the US to hold the German juggernaut to 1-0. :punk:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
It just struck me: how impressive of the US to hold the German juggernaut to 1-0. :punk:
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 02:56:10 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
It just struck me: how impressive of the US to hold the German juggernaut to 1-0. :punk:
The US would have beaten Brazil 6-1 :P
Quote from: derspiess on July 09, 2014, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 02:56:10 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
It just struck me: how impressive of the US to hold the German juggernaut to 1-0. :punk:
The US would have beaten Brazil 6-1 :P
That's Marshall logic. Herd fans would be proud.
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
One of the admittedly very minor nitpicks of the world cup was that Argentina, Germany and the Netherlands were not playing in their traditional colors. This game at least Argentina and the Netherlands are back in their usual colors. :)
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 03:37:17 PM
Yes. I was making fun of the idea we should be proud we lost :lol:
But Yi was to.
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
Müller:
http://gfycat.com/BothLazyBasil
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 03:58:20 PMIsn't that just a fancy word for foul?
Can someone tell me what "infringement" is?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
Is it? My question was an honest one. On the last Argentine free kick the commentators said even though the Dutch goalie grabbed it, it didn't matter because of infringement.
Something to do with interfering with the goalie?
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
Müller:
http://gfycat.com/BothLazyBasil
Quote from: The Larch on July 09, 2014, 04:37:18 PMProbably from some kind of Bayern celebration:
He seems to be wearing some kind of strapless lederhosen.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
It just struck me: how impressive of the US to hold the German juggernaut to 1-0. :punk:
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is the game as boring as the match stats say?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
Does fodbol singing ever sound like anything? During the first half it sounded like Uuuuh ooooh uuuuh.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:00:15 PMYou could hear the German fans singing quite clearly yesterday and you could understand what they were singing when you speak the language.
Does fodbol singing ever sound like anything? During the first half it sounded like Uuuuh ooooh uuuuh.
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 09, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
And if you speak Portuguese you would've heard the Brazilian's chanting 'hey Fred, go fuck yourself!'
Beautiful.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Argentines make good floppers.
Quote from: Jacob on July 09, 2014, 05:25:23 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Argentines make good floppers.
That was a pretty solid shoulder to the head. Seems unfair to fault a man for falling down when he's likely concussed.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2014, 05:26:02 PMQuote from: Jacob on July 09, 2014, 05:25:23 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Argentines make good floppers.
That was a pretty solid shoulder to the head. Seems unfair to fault a man for falling down when he's likely concussed.
The play was well before that.
Quote from: Zanza on July 09, 2014, 05:09:55 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:00:15 PMYou could hear the German fans singing quite clearly yesterday and you could understand what they were singing when you speak the language.
Does fodbol singing ever sound like anything? During the first half it sounded like Uuuuh ooooh uuuuh.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Noticed there are no dedicated fan sections; Dutch and Argentines are intermingled.
Anyone ever been to an international? Do things ever get tense in the stands?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Noticed there are no dedicated fan sections; Dutch and Argentines are intermingled.
Anyone ever been to an international? Do things ever get tense in the stands?
Quote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 05:44:07 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Noticed there are no dedicated fan sections; Dutch and Argentines are intermingled.
Anyone ever been to an international? Do things ever get tense in the stands?
Compared to league games, never.
Quote from: Viking on July 09, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
two misses? My pool thanks you
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2014, 05:11:22 PM
Cant sub the goal tender, now the Dutch have to score...
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
VICTORY FOR THE STATUS QUO. IF YOU HAVE NOT WON A WORLD CUP BEFORE YOU CANNOT WIN IT
Quote from: HVC on July 08, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
All that matters is that tomorrow we're all Argentinians.
Quote from: Tyr on July 09, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
I'm sad. Not so much that the Dutch are out, my support for then was minor, but of the threat of the argies winning. I really hate that country.
Quote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 05:54:14 PM:lol:
So it wasn't a genius tactical move by van Gaal but a necessity to sub the goalie.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 09, 2014, 05:53:47 PMuma vez!Quote from: HVC on July 08, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
All that matters is that tomorrow we're all Argentinians.
Obrigado! Desta vez, não deste azar! :)
Quote from: The Larch on July 09, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
Romero the hero!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:48:50 PM:x Not if past history is anything to go by.
Too bad. :(
Still, GER vs ARG makes for a pretty epic final.
Quote from: DGuller on July 09, 2014, 06:22:16 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2014, 05:48:50 PM:x Not if past history is anything to go by.
Too bad. :(
Still, GER vs ARG makes for a pretty epic final.
Quote from: Maladict on July 09, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
Ah well. I can live with this.
Very tense game. We actually had a really solid defense. So did the Argies, unfortunately.
Germany will take them out.
And now for the fucking 3rd place game :yucky:
Quote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
Can the pope with seniority demand a win?
Quote from: Viking on July 09, 2014, 07:10:21 PMQuote from: Liep on July 09, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
Can the pope with seniority demand a win?
I think the one with papal infallibility gets to decide that.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 09, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
:hug:
Do everyone a favor though and destroy Brazil in the 3rd place game too. That would be great.
Quote from: Josephus on July 09, 2014, 07:29:41 PM
This game will decide the TRUE pope
Quote from: Tyr on July 09, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
I'm sad. Not so much that the Dutch are out, my support for then was minor, but of the threat of the argies winning. I really hate that country.
Quote from: Norgy on July 09, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
Canniggia
Quote from: Norgy on July 09, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
So one ofe the most entertaining teams against the most boring. This is 1990 all over again. It only lacks Caniggia's coke-filled head.
And a Brehme long shot.
Fuck you, Argentina. You're shit.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
VICTORY FOR THE STATUS QUO. IF YOU HAVE NOT WON A WORLD CUP BEFORE YOU CANNOT WIN IT
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 10:31:34 PMQuote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
VICTORY FOR THE STATUS QUO. IF YOU HAVE NOT WON A WORLD CUP BEFORE YOU CANNOT WIN IT
If Germany wins the status quo will be shattered though.
QuoteThe most important objective, that the WC must stay in Europe and S. America, was complete when Costa Rica was kicked out.
Now, the second most important objective, that only those who have won it before may win it, is complete.
Next, we go for the icing on the cake, that a WC tournament held in S. America should be won by a S. American country.
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Ah but no European team has won it in this hemisphere before. THE STATUS QUO SHALL FALL.
A little bit anyway.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 09, 2014, 07:41:16 PMQuote from: FunkMonk on July 09, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
:hug:
Do everyone a favor though and destroy Brazil in the 3rd place game too. That would be great.
Do you guys remember the game in Argentina when River Plate got relegated and the fans rioted preventing the game from continuing?
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 09:41:24 PMThey have only ever lost one penalty shootout at the world cup. To Germany.
The Argentines seem to do quite well in penalty shoot-outs. Their goal keeper is impressive. This may persuade the Germans to play more aggressively.
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Ah but no European team has won it in this hemisphere before. THE STATUS QUO SHALL FALL.
A little bit anyway.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 10, 2014, 12:02:47 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Ah but no European team has won it in this hemisphere before. THE STATUS QUO SHALL FALL.
A little bit anyway.
China will win in 2026, 2030 at the latest. Just telling you guys(Mono) so you'll be prepared.
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 09, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
Is this the one you're talking about? :lol:
http://youtu.be/XF30ZZ4Ahek
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 10, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
One day they'll figure that a gold medal in a sport nobody plays isn't as important as winning in the most popular sport and then national prestige will demand it. The US is more motivated by pride than prestige, so we'll continue favoring our own inventions.
OTOH, we certainly have enough Mexicans and Africans(the ones not descended from slaves) and commie pinko granola white boys to give it a go. I mean, if the Netherlands and Belgium can field competitive teams... ;)
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 11:24:12 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Ah but no European team has won it in this hemisphere before. THE STATUS QUO SHALL FALL.
A little bit anyway.
I am very open-minded.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 10, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
One day they'll figure that a gold medal in a sport nobody plays isn't as important as winning in the most popular sport and then national prestige will demand it. The US is more motivated by pride than prestige, so we'll continue favoring our own inventions.
OTOH, we certainly have enough Mexicans and Africans(the ones not descended from slaves) and commie pinko granola white boys to give it a go. I mean, if the Netherlands and Belgium can field competitive teams... ;)
Quote from: Norgy on July 10, 2014, 12:48:55 AMQuote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 11:24:12 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
Ah but no European team has won it in this hemisphere before. THE STATUS QUO SHALL FALL.
A little bit anyway.
I am very open-minded.
That, young man, is a blatant lie.
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2014, 12:44:46 AM
Canadian sports Basketball
Quote from: Zanza on July 10, 2014, 12:02:26 AMQuote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2014, 09:41:24 PMThey have only ever lost one penalty shootout at the world cup. To Germany.
The Argentines seem to do quite well in penalty shoot-outs. Their goal keeper is impressive. This may persuade the Germans to play more aggressively.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 03:31:09 AM
I am still thinking if I should bother towake up at 4am towatch the third place match.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 03:59:28 AM
Austrian news site called yesterday's fixture "ein von Taktik geprägtes Match" (a match dominated by tactical considerations) which is sports journo shorthand for, "Both teams played very defensively and it was boring as fuck."
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 03:59:28 AM
Austrian news site called yesterday's fixture "ein von Taktik geprägtes Match" (a match dominated by tactical considerations) which is sports journo shorthand for, "Both teams played very defensively and it was boring as fuck."
Quote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 04:16:12 AM
Mono, do you enjoy watching football or are you just obsessed with the status quo thing? Honest question.
Quote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 04:06:43 AMQuote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 03:59:28 AM
Austrian news site called yesterday's fixture "ein von Taktik geprägtes Match" (a match dominated by tactical considerations) which is sports journo shorthand for, "Both teams played very defensively and it was boring as fuck."
Yeah it probably wasn't very exciting for neutral viewers.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 04:33:42 AM
Well, it helps if you are rooting for one of the teams, but even so - I mean, I've seen my share of highly defensive games of Germany or Bayern Munich in the past 20 years and usually it's not really fun unless you're particularly fond of the intricacies of "Rasenschach" (lawn chess) as it's often called derogatorily.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 10, 2014, 04:10:20 AM
I did notice it was a relatively clean game and the there was little diving.
Quote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 05:10:48 AMQuote from: Admiral Yi on July 10, 2014, 04:10:20 AM
I did notice it was a relatively clean game and the there was little diving.
The ref did miss a very blatant foul on Sneijder, of the "inbetween yellow and outright red card" category.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 03:59:28 AM'A day for the purists.'
Austrian news site called yesterday's fixture "ein von Taktik geprägtes Match" (a match dominated by tactical considerations) which is sports journo shorthand for, "Both teams played very defensively and it was boring as fuck."
Quote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 05:08:45 AM
I don't know. If your team is playing in the knockout phase a game like this does have a lot of tension, because you know a single goal will probably be the end of it, for both sides. So it's pretty much a 120-minute sudden death game. With the stakes as high as they were, I couldn't take my eyes off it.
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 08:28:39 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 05:08:45 AM
I don't know. If your team is playing in the knockout phase a game like this does have a lot of tension, because you know a single goal will probably be the end of it, for both sides. So it's pretty much a 120-minute sudden death game. With the stakes as high as they were, I couldn't take my eyes off it.
If you have an interest in either team, that's how it is. But it's still pretty draining. The 120 minutes seem like 240.
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 08:28:39 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 10, 2014, 05:08:45 AM
I don't know. If your team is playing in the knockout phase a game like this does have a lot of tension, because you know a single goal will probably be the end of it, for both sides. So it's pretty much a 120-minute sudden death game. With the stakes as high as they were, I couldn't take my eyes off it.
If you have an interest in either team, that's how it is. But it's still pretty draining. The 120 minutes seem like 240.
All the stores are slashing prices on World Cup stuff. We got an Argentina jersey for Tommy last night for $7 and I think I'll go get that Netherlands t-shirt I saw the other day.
I planned to watch the third place game at home, but we got invited over to some German friends' house to watch it & I was put in a spot where it would have been rude to say no.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 10, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
Think of it has Anime for the regular people.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: all of Brazil will root for Germany. :P
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 09:53:19 AM
I don't pay for anime, and I don't buy anime merchandise. It is free entertainment for me, just like World Cup on TV. So I still don't understand why there is a market for World Cup merchandise.
Quote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AMI can, after yesterday's game.Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: all of Brazil will root for Germany. :P
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Quote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Quote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM:( :( :(Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: all of Brazil will root for Germany. :P
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 10:04:55 AMQuote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM:( :( :(Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: all of Brazil will root for Germany. :P
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 10, 2014, 10:12:45 AM
Is it possible that both team get DQ & we can have a proper and honourable winner like France.
ffs.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 10:34:53 AM
Valmy: Honorary Prussian Liberal. :pickelhaube:
Quote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 10:07:53 AMQuote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 10:04:55 AMQuote from: Barrister on July 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM:( :( :(Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: all of Brazil will root for Germany. :P
Having rooted for Brazil all tournament I guess I'm supposed to root against Argentina... but I don't think I can do it. Not for the Germans.
Sorry, you guys are in the wrong continent this time. I'll root for Germany in 2018 :cool:
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 10:19:54 AM
Yeah, France is ranked 7th, I think. It failed to get into the semi-finals. Out of the 4 teams eliminated in the quarter-finals, France (10) is behind Columbia (12) and Belgium (12) in terms of points. So the ranking is Germany/Argentina, Brazil/Netherlands, Columbia, Belgium, then France in 7th place, ahead of Costa Rica (9 points).
Quote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
The 1978 world cup was a proper tournament but Aregentina's qualification for the final is so suspect it shoudl be regarded as stricken from the records.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 11:16:40 AMQuote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
The 1978 world cup was a proper tournament but Aregentina's qualification for the final is so suspect it shoudl be regarded as stricken from the records.
That is Mono's point
Quote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:30:06 AMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 11:16:40 AMQuote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
The 1978 world cup was a proper tournament but Aregentina's qualification for the final is so suspect it shoudl be regarded as stricken from the records.
That is Mono's point
Really? I thought he was supporting Argentina on the basis of his thirs status quo rule: that no European team should win a WC hosted in South America. I'm arguing that is a shitty rule and that the three WCs held before 2014 in SA should be ignored for any staus quo calculations.
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 12:51:02 PM
So Argentina is a fairly significant underdog and nobody seems to be giving them a chance. Cool, cool... :menace:
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 12:52:15 PMQuote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 12:51:02 PM
So Argentina is a fairly significant underdog and nobody seems to be giving them a chance. Cool, cool... :menace:
Yep, this way you will feel less pain when Germany wins.
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2014, 10:55:42 AMQuote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 10:34:53 AM
Valmy: Honorary Prussian Liberal. :pickelhaube:
:w00t:
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: nobody in Brazil will root for Argentina. :P
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 12:51:02 PM
So Argentina is a fairly significant underdog and nobody seems to be giving them a chance. Cool, cool... :menace:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 10, 2014, 03:36:37 PMQuote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
One advantage of playing Argentina in the final: nobody in Brazil will root for Argentina. :P
Fixed!
I expect the Brazilians of German descent to root for Germany. Most want both teams to lose but that's impossible.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 10, 2014, 03:38:34 PM
How many Argentines are supposed to cross the border for the final btw? Can they play at home IN BRAZIL?
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 04:03:07 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on July 10, 2014, 03:38:34 PM
How many Argentines are supposed to cross the border for the final btw? Can they play at home IN BRAZIL?
Four that I know of personally. I'm guessing many others will be selling off their kids to get tickets. My hope is that dejected Brazilians will sell their Sunday game tickets to Argies posing as Germans (wouldn't that be a switch). I just wish I could be there with my people.
Maybe I could hitch a ride with LeBron James :hmm:
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 04:03:07 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on July 10, 2014, 03:38:34 PM
How many Argentines are supposed to cross the border for the final btw? Can they play at home IN BRAZIL?
Four that I know of personally. I'm guessing many others will be selling off their kids to get tickets. My hope is that dejected Brazilians will sell their Sunday game tickets to Argies posing as Germans (wouldn't that be a switch). I just wish I could be there with my people.
Maybe I could hitch a ride with LeBron James :hmm:
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 09:53:19 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 10, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
Think of it has Anime for the regular people.
I don't pay for anime, and I don't buy anime merchandise. It is free entertainment for me, just like World Cup on TV. So I still don't understand why there is a market for World Cup merchandise.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 10, 2014, 09:42:53 PMQuote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 09:53:19 AMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 10, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
Think of it has Anime for the regular people.
I don't pay for anime, and I don't buy anime merchandise. It is free entertainment for me, just like World Cup on TV. So I still don't understand why there is a market for World Cup merchandise.
You went to a concert, that counts.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 10, 2014, 09:57:22 PM
It's certainly wasted money though.
Quote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:30:06 AMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 11:16:40 AMQuote from: Gups on July 10, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
The 1978 world cup was a proper tournament but Aregentina's qualification for the final is so suspect it shoudl be regarded as stricken from the records.
That is Mono's point
Really? I thought he was supporting Argentina on the basis of his thirs status quo rule: that no European team should win a WC hosted in South America. I'm arguing that is a shitty rule and that the three WCs held before 2014 in SA should be ignored for any staus quo calculations.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
His status quo rule was no new team can win ;)
His theory as a whole is premised on the assumption that FIFA decides who wins and your point provided good evidence for his theory.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 10, 2014, 10:05:32 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on July 10, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
His status quo rule was no new team can win ;)
His theory as a whole is premised on the assumption that FIFA decides who wins and your point provided good evidence for his theory.
Actually it is the other way round. I believe FIFA wants to open new markets, and they want an Asian or African team to win. Especially Asian. See: South Korea in 2002.
Quote from: Liep on July 11, 2014, 05:15:36 AM
I just saw a replay of the first Dutch miss, it almost rolled back into the goal because of spin and ended up on the goal line. It would've been one for the YouTube legendary archives if it had gone in. The goalie was completely unaware in his celebrations.
http://www.dr.dk/sporten/fifavm2014/nyheder/20140711085034.htm
EDIT: And I just saw it again, did it touch Vlaar?
Quote from: Liep on July 11, 2014, 05:15:36 AM
I just saw a replay of the first Dutch miss, it almost rolled back into the goal because of spin and ended up on the goal line. It would've been one for the YouTube legendary archives if it had gone in. The goalie was completely unaware in his celebrations.
http://www.dr.dk/sporten/fifavm2014/nyheder/20140711085034.htm
EDIT: And I just saw it again, did it touch Vlaar?
Quote from: celedhring on July 11, 2014, 07:27:50 AM
Looks like it touches Vlaar's shoulder, imho. So it wouldn't have counted.
Quote from: Norgy on July 10, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Spicy, isn't this like a dream final for you? Your family hails from Germany, doesn't it?
And with an Argentinian wife, I can imagine you are suppressing the inner Kraut Fallujah-style.
Quote from: Syt on July 11, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
I saw a statistic in Neue Zürcher Zeitung today: during the Argentina-Netherlands semifinal, the only two people on the pitch who ran less than Messi (measured in km) were the two goalies. :lol:
Quote from: Syt on July 11, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
I saw a statistic in Neue Zürcher Zeitung today: during the Argentina-Netherlands semifinal, the only two people on the pitch who ran less than Messi (measured in km) were the two goalies. :lol:
QuoteGermany went easy on Brazil in second half of 7-1 World Cup pasting claims Mats Hummels
Joachim Low's men already lead tournament hosts 5-0 at halftime in their semi-final and agreed not to humiliate them further in the last 45 minutes
Germany's players made a half-time dressing room pact not to "humiliate" Brazil during their World Cup mauling.
Defender Mats Hummels revealed he and his teammates spoke in the dressing room in Belo Horizonte after storming into a 5-0 interval lead.
They agreed not to 'show-boat', and, after their historic 7-1 semi-final win, Manchester United target Hummels explained: "We just made it clear that we had to stay focused and not try to humiliate them.
"We said we had to stay serious and concentrate at half-time. That's something you don't have to show on the pitch if you are playing.
"You have to show the opponent respect and it was very important that we did this and didn't try to show some magic or something like this. It was important we played our game for 90 minutes."
Brazil were left completely stunned by Germany's rampant victory but Hummels insists they must repeat their World Cup masterclass if they are to win the final on Sunday.
He added: "After our second goal they got confused. They were not organised on the pitch and after that we didn't miss a chance until we scored the fifth goal. This doesn't happen too often. You just have to enjoy it.
"We must keep our feet on the ground, but that's no problem for us. We know how hard it will be on Sunday. It doesn't matter who the opponent is on the day. It will be a hard fight and the only chance we have of winning is if we know that from the start.
"We know we are one of the best teams in the world but you always need a bit of luck and for us it was a good day. We must enjoy what happened, but if we lose the final, this semi-final will not be worth anything.
"The game does not have any impact on the final on because it will be a totally different game. It was nice how it went, but it will be no problem keeping our feet on the ground."
Hummels and his teammates were praised by their former manager Jurgen Klinsmann.
The current USA coach, who scored 38 goals in 80 appearances for Germany as a player and managed them at the 2006 World Cup, urged Joachim Low and his players to go on and win the tournament.
Klinsmann tweeted: "The best German performance ever in a World Cup! Simply fantastic! Now get the Cup JOGI and TEAM!"
And former Germany and Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann was equally impressed, saying: "Master-class from Germany. Clinical, organised, hard-working, unselfish and humble. Very proud of the team. One to go."
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 11, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
This Germany team are exceptionally loveable. They're like the anti-Dutch.
Though, needless to say, I'll be cheering on Argentina :w00t:
Quote from: DGuller on July 11, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
If you're going to "not humiliate" someone, a crucial part of that plan is not saying that you chose to not humiliate someone.
Quote from: DGuller on July 11, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
If you're going to "not humiliate" someone, a crucial part of that plan is not saying that you chose to not humiliate someone.
Quote from: derspiess on July 11, 2014, 12:55:28 PMI'd be curious to hear Mexican broadcast:
I noticed they had a Portuguese audio option for the Germany-Brazil game on the ESPN app. Might go back & watch the first half with that on just to hear the reactions.
Quote from: Viking on July 11, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
When I read the article on what Hummels said I didn't see it as a "lets take it easy on them and not try hard" but rather "lets not mock brazil while beating them totally". Less a case of not trying to win by the largest margine, more a case of no elaborate end zone style celebrations.
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 11, 2014, 12:59:28 PM
Incomprehensible shrieks of pure noise, or Portuguese? You decide.
Quote from: DGuller on July 11, 2014, 01:04:41 PMQuote from: derspiess on July 11, 2014, 12:55:28 PMI'd be curious to hear Mexican broadcast:
I noticed they had a Portuguese audio option for the Germany-Brazil game on the ESPN app. Might go back & watch the first half with that on just to hear the reactions.
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGOAAAAAAAAAAAAA *cough* *panting* *cough* *panting* *THUD*
Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2014, 12:48:18 PM
They should have just beat them down 14-0. When people call you out on it say you 'respect Brazil too much to take it easy on them.'
Quote
"Dear Joseph,
We had sent a message to you back in 2010, when you decided or were bribed by the former Amir of Qatar to have the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. Now, after the establishment of the Caliphate state, we declare that there will be no World Cup in Qatar since Qatar will be part of the Caliphate under the rule of the Caliph Ibrahim Bin Awad Alqarshi [al-Baghdadi's full name] who doesn't allow corruption and diversion from Islam in the land of the Muslims. This is why we suggest that you will decide upon a replacement country instead of Qatar. The Islamic state has long-range Scud missiles that can easily reach Qatar, as the Americans already know.
Thanks"
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 12, 2014, 03:22:43 PM
Brazil needs to find a new national sport. They're terrible at this one.
Quote from: Syt on July 12, 2014, 03:23:09 PM
Hup Holland Hup!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bDvFRxqvYM
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
It's better than their last. :hug:
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
After the second goal and the terrible defending before makes you wonder if David Luiz is worth 50 million...
Quote from: Delirium on July 12, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Poor Brazil?
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 12, 2014, 05:13:58 PMQuote from: Zanza on July 12, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
After the second goal and the terrible defending before makes you wonder if David Luiz is worth 50 million...
PSG: Masters of the transfer market :lmfao:
Quote from: Delirium on July 12, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Poor Brazil?
QuotePredictably, this version of the tournament included some convenient matchups, sure to please supreme leader Kim Jong-un. North Korea knocked off the likes of Japan (7-0) and China (a downright kind 2-0) on the way to the final against Portugal. But certainly no imaginary moment of glory was bigger than a 4-0 shellacking of the United States.
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
Fred retires from international squad, says losses were a team effort and that one individual cannot be blamed, especially not Fred.
Quote from: Viking on July 13, 2014, 12:16:20 PMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
Fred retires from international squad, says losses were a team effort and that one individual cannot be blamed, especially not Fred.
Seriously, you can't really blame the striker for the team conceding 7 goals.
Quote from: Josephus on July 13, 2014, 12:17:49 PMSame here. Argentinians are too good at defending, and too terrible at attacking, for this to be an exciting game.
Predicting final will be snorefest that goes into penalties.
Quote from: Zanza on July 13, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
Watching with about 500 people in a public location. Beer is flowing liberally.
Quote from: DGuller on July 13, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
This is the most exciting 0:0 game since the last one. Argentinians really are a pox on soccer, every one of their knockout games has been an utter snoozer. I wish Germans were as good at diving today as they were in 1990.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 13, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
Oh well. I guess we'll have to settle for a 99% victory for the status quo instead of 100%.
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
How the fuck can grown men cry over a game they didn't even play in?
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
How the fuck can grown men cry over a game they didn't even play in?
Quote from: Maladict on July 13, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Congrats neighbours! :cheers:
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
Golden Ball to Messi?
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 04:58:06 PM
I meant as a fan, not a player that didn't get into the game.
I have had favorite teams win championships and lose championship games. I have had favorite teams have their hearts broken and very rarely had my team break someone else's heart. I have had favorite teams get screwed over and seen it go the other way, but I cannot think of any time that I have been even close to crying over other people running around playing a game.
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
But, you know, don't bug me right after a big loss. I need about 30 minutes to get my sanity back.
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
Favourite team != national team.
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
But, you know, don't bug me right after a big loss. I need about 30 minutes to get my sanity back.
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:10:14 PMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
Favourite team != national team.
Well, that's true. I care a lot more about the St Louis Cardinals and Portland Trail Blazers then any of the US National Teams. Maybe it is because the national teams only do stuff every 4 years were I am following and caring about the others every year.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2014, 05:08:22 PMi still haven't watched the Ravens-Niners Super Bowl.Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
But, you know, don't bug me right after a big loss. I need about 30 minutes to get my sanity back.
:lol: It used to be, it took me until about Wednesday. Now I'm good around late Monday afternoon.
Playoff losses, on the other hand...now they smart.
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
I have a feeling that the national team has a different status in rotw than in the us.
Quote from: Maladict on July 13, 2014, 05:14:34 PMI don't know, I slept horribly for a couple of nights (reliving both the 2nd goal against Portugal and the loss to Belgium) after the US was out. It might have something to do with casual fans vs fans who follow the sport.Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
I have a feeling that the national team has a different status in rotw than in the us.
Sure sounds like it.
Quote from: PDH on July 13, 2014, 05:17:46 PMQuote from: Maladict on July 13, 2014, 05:14:34 PMI don't know, I slept horribly for a couple of nights (reliving both the 2nd goal against Portugal and the loss to Belgium) after the US was out. It might have something to do with casual fans vs fans who follow the sport.Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
I have a feeling that the national team has a different status in rotw than in the us.
Sure sounds like it.
Quote from: PDH on July 13, 2014, 05:17:46 PMQuote from: Maladict on July 13, 2014, 05:14:34 PMI don't know, I slept horribly for a couple of nights (reliving both the 2nd goal against Portugal and the loss to Belgium) after the US was out. It might have something to do with casual fans vs fans who follow the sport.Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
I have a feeling that the national team has a different status in rotw than in the us.
Sure sounds like it.
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
What was there to lose sleep about with the Belgium game? The US wasn't really expected to even get out of group play, Belgium was favored to win the game and they showed very clearly during the game that they were better, even though the US just missed a chance at a miracle at the end. I would understand if they were expected to win that game, or to make a deep run and were beaten by a lesser team, but sometimes the other team is just better than you and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 13, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
Chicks blubber all the time at college football games.
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2014, 06:09:00 PMAlso the US wasn't a massive underdog in that game. You've been to every World Cup since 1986 and have a decent team. The US weren't expected to progress because you were in a difficult group, not because it's a bad team.
That doesn't work man. The US had the tying goal and blew it. Besides how much better were they really from the US anyway?
Quote from: Zanza on July 13, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
Tenth of thousands celebrating in the streets here. :-)
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
Golden Ball to Messi?
Quote from: Hansmeister on July 13, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Or maybe I'm just bitter because I was busy at work and missed the game.
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
What was there to lose sleep about with the Belgium game? The US wasn't really expected to even get out of group play, Belgium was favored to win the game and they showed very clearly during the game that they were better, even though the US just missed a chance at a miracle at the end. I would understand if they were expected to win that game, or to make a deep run and were beaten by a lesser team, but sometimes the other team is just better than you and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.
Quote from: PDH on July 13, 2014, 08:42:14 PMQuote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
What was there to lose sleep about with the Belgium game? The US wasn't really expected to even get out of group play, Belgium was favored to win the game and they showed very clearly during the game that they were better, even though the US just missed a chance at a miracle at the end. I would understand if they were expected to win that game, or to make a deep run and were beaten by a lesser team, but sometimes the other team is just better than you and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.
You don't get it.
Quote from: PDH on July 13, 2014, 08:42:14 PMQuote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
What was there to lose sleep about with the Belgium game? The US wasn't really expected to even get out of group play, Belgium was favored to win the game and they showed very clearly during the game that they were better, even though the US just missed a chance at a miracle at the end. I would understand if they were expected to win that game, or to make a deep run and were beaten by a lesser team, but sometimes the other team is just better than you and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.
You don't get it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
While I really wanted a German-Dutch Final, I had to root for zee Germans in this one: while there's nothing quite as enjoyable as the wailing and gnashing of Euroteeth whenever they lose in their little game, their little pacifist hands balled into little fists of rage as they set shit on fire, I thoroughly enjoy watching the entire southern hemisphere collectively mourn and suck the big one when it comes to their sport.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 14, 2014, 12:59:01 AM
As for Schweinsteiger, it's peanuts. He's got already a tough surname to bear :P
Quote from: Viking on July 14, 2014, 01:13:22 AM
Congrats to frunk and Maladict both of who beat me on the tie breaker in the pool.
if I only I hadn't fucked up and not picked in the Brazil Chile game I'd be gloating right now.
Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:03:33 PMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
Golden Ball to Messi?
Of course, the Germans got to the final as a team, Argentina because of Messi. So probably deserved.
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 06:13:25 AMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:03:33 PMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
Golden Ball to Messi?
Of course, the Germans got to the final as a team, Argentina because of Messi. So probably deserved.
Nah, it just doesn't make any sense. Messi wasn't even the best Argentinian.
Maybe they gave it for effort, because of the puking.
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 06:28:14 AM
Daily Mail has oodles of pictures of yesterday's celebrations both on the field and off:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690667/Its-big-one-German-Argentine-fans-reach-fever-pitch-teams-prepare-World-Cup-Final.html
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 06:46:49 AMQuote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 06:28:14 AM
Daily Mail has oodles of pictures of yesterday's celebrations both on the field and off:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690667/Its-big-one-German-Argentine-fans-reach-fever-pitch-teams-prepare-World-Cup-Final.html
Rihanna :x
Quote from: Delirium on July 14, 2014, 08:09:04 AM
Good for Germany, clearly the best team in the competition and providing the most creative football as well, so world football is the better for it assuming that people will do what they did with Spain and spend the next few years emulating German élan.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
I still don't get it, personally.
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 03:21:56 AM
congrats frunk :cheers:
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
I still don't get it, personally.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2014, 08:30:43 AM
LOOK RAY DONOVAN SEASON 2 IS ON
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2014, 08:30:43 AMfor a guy who still have nightmares about his team moving you'd think you'd understand sports fans who are a tad emotionally connected to their teams :DQuote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
I still don't get it, personally.
Me neither, it's just soccer.
Quote from: Delirium on July 14, 2014, 08:09:04 AM
Good for Germany, clearly the best team in the competition and providing the most creative football as well, so world football is the better for it assuming that people will do what they did with Spain and spend the next few years emulating German élan.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:27:03 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 03:21:56 AM
congrats frunk :cheers:
Texans know Football. Both kinds :cheers:
Quote from: garbon on July 14, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
There is a lot of Rihanna in that photo spread!
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 06:46:49 AM
Rihanna :x
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
This is what you get for not posting more :mad: :blush:
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
This is what you get for not posting more :mad: :blush:
Quote from: sbr on July 13, 2014, 05:10:14 PMQuote from: Liep on July 13, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
Favourite team != national team.
Well, that's true. I care a lot more about the St Louis Cardinals and Portland Trail Blazers then any of the US National Teams. Maybe it is because the national teams only do stuff every 4 years were I am following and caring about the others every year.
Quote from: frunk on July 14, 2014, 08:54:20 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
This is what you get for not posting more :mad: :blush:
If that's the worst you can throw at me... (doesn't post for 3 months)
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 08:57:20 AMYes, but to a large extent it was saved by Babyface Neckbeard's goal.
Definitely one of the better finals in recent memory.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:53:25 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 06:46:49 AM
Rihanna :x
Seriously? Elbows too pointy or something?
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 09:52:03 AM
For me, Mascherano and Romero were the best players of Argentina.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 09:53:01 AMQuote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 08:53:25 AMQuote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 06:46:49 AM
Rihanna :x
Seriously? Elbows too pointy or something?
I'm not much of a fan, either. Used to like her before the tattoos & piercings and getting back together with the dude who smashed her face.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 09:53:50 AMQuote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 09:52:03 AM
For me, Mascherano and Romero were the best players of Argentina.
Di Maria certainly would have made an impact had he been healthy.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 09:53:50 AMQuote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 09:52:03 AM
For me, Mascherano and Romero were the best players of Argentina.
Di Maria certainly would have made an impact had he been healthy.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 10:31:02 AM
Germany seemed to have a lot more depth, though.
Quote from: Warspite on July 14, 2014, 09:40:29 AM
A lot of very poor punditry here saying that Germany is a great team without stand-out individuals, but I'm struggling to think which of Lahm, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Mueller, Oezil, Kroos, Neuer and Goetze wouldn't walk into any club side in the world?
Germany won the WC because it blended fantastic individual talent with a team ethos.
The narrative about Argentina is also lazy - Messi underperformed, and that's all we are hearing about, but the team progressed because of the excellent performances of Mascherano and Di Maria, among others, who are themselves also world-class players.
Quote from: Warspite on July 14, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
Belgium look like a really immature team to me.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 11:31:52 AMQuote from: Warspite on July 14, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
Belgium look like a really immature team to me.
Especially that De Bruyne kid, who looks like a 12 year old Prince Harry.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
I tripped garbon's "Prince Harry" alert :P
Quote from: Maladict on July 14, 2014, 11:41:34 AMQuote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
I tripped garbon's "Prince Harry" alert :P
That's what I thought with the Rihanna remark. :lol:
Quote from: DGuller on July 14, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
:hmm: Who knew playing such a gay game could land you such chicks.
Quote from: Viking on July 14, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
but it seems when you win the magazines jump on the chance to put up pictures of hott chicks in skimpy outfits.
Quote from: DGuller on July 14, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
:hmm: Who knew playing such a gay game could land you such chicks.
Quote from: DGuller on July 14, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
:hmm: Who knew playing such a gay game could land you such chicks.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 14, 2014, 12:36:23 PMQuote from: DGuller on July 14, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
:hmm: Who knew playing such a gay game could land you such chicks.
I'm holding out playing more masculine games like madden. Once women learn about how good I am at that game, they will ignore my palid complexion and atrophied non thumb muscles.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:33:04 PMQuote from: Viking on July 14, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
but it seems when you win the magazines jump on the chance to put up pictures of hott chicks in skimpy outfits.
#1: If these women are models or actresses and this is helping their careers, or they want this kind of exposure for the lulz, then good for them.
#2: This is actually a level the American Sports media has not stooped. We never see Lebron James' wife in skimpy outfits everytime he is in the finals. We barely even get Giselle sightings when the Patriots are doing well. Weird.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
Oh for Godsake. Dude you are an adventure mountain climber.
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:36:35 PM
There is just no way your grew up in Ukraine. I know their soccer players score far more off the field than on it.
Quote from: Viking on July 14, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
I know with england the WAGs get the blame when the team fucks up (excuse #756),
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 14, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
I enjoyed the footage of the Buenos Aries riot. :)
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
#2: This is actually a level the American Sports media has not stooped. We never see Lebron James' wife in skimpy outfits everytime he is in the finals. We barely even get Giselle sightings when the Patriots are doing well. Weird.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 14, 2014, 12:21:25 PM
Do Draxler's Syt.
Quote from: derspiess on July 14, 2014, 12:52:26 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
#2: This is actually a level the American Sports media has not stooped. We never see Lebron James' wife in skimpy outfits everytime he is in the finals. We barely even get Giselle sightings when the Patriots are doing well. Weird.
To clarify, they were not at the game wearing skimpy outfits. I think most of them were wearing jerseys & jeans or whatever.
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 01:04:10 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 14, 2014, 12:21:25 PM
Do Draxler's Syt.
*pic of sorta douche looking dude with super hot woman*
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 14, 2014, 01:09:40 PM
I was impressed with Podolski's reaction to the win. He was just as happy (maybe more) than the starters.
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 01:04:10 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 14, 2014, 12:21:25 PM
Do Draxler's Syt.
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Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2014, 01:43:08 PMQuote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
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Mengele's work did not go completely to waste. :ph34r:
Quote from: The Larch on July 14, 2014, 01:53:59 PMAnd, a rather tenuous german like it is.
Klose is of Polish origin. :P
Quote from: The Larch on July 14, 2014, 01:53:59 PM
Klose is of Polish origin. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2014, 02:02:46 PMQuote from: The Larch on July 14, 2014, 01:53:59 PM
Klose is of Polish origin. :P
Only makes it more impressive. :)
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Kathrin Gilch (Manuel Neuer)
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Montana Yorke (Andre Schürrle)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
Does the first name "Montana" mean she's an Ossi?
Quote from: Syt on July 14, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
She was born in Vancouver.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 14, 2014, 12:39:11 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
Oh for Godsake. Dude you are an adventure mountain climber.
I was trying to be funny. :(
Quote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
Man they have some huge melons over there.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 14, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Woo. Boobs!
Quote from: Barrister on July 14, 2014, 05:36:59 PMQuote from: Valmy on July 14, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
Man they have some huge melons over there.
Those are coconuts. :contract:
Quote from: Josephus on July 14, 2014, 05:44:31 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on July 14, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Woo. Boobs!
yes. most women indeed have them. Two most of the time.
Quote from: Josephus on July 14, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
In my next life I'm gonna be a German soccer player.
Quote from: Josephus on July 15, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Fine then. In my next life I'm going to be a Maltese soccer player. :hmm:
Quote from: Zanza on July 15, 2014, 05:39:28 AMYeah, most of the soccer stars seem to have model girlfriends.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 15, 2014, 06:08:59 AMQuote from: Josephus on July 15, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Fine then. In my next life I'm going to be a Maltese soccer player. :hmm:
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Quote from: alfred russel on July 15, 2014, 12:10:43 PM
David Hasselhof is going to rock the finale.
Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2014, 12:02:34 PM
Celebration in Berlin today. Musical guest: Helen Fischer, one of, if not the most successful German musical artist at the moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haECT-SerHk
:bleeding:
Quote from: Liep on July 15, 2014, 01:39:42 PMNot a fan, but she easily outsells every Eurovision contest singer in German-speaking countries. Eurovision is not taken seriously at all in Germany. Apart from Lena Meyer-Landrut about five years ago I couldn't name a single German contestant.
I assume then that the Eurovision is hugely popular in Germany? Because this song wouldn't even beat Armenia. :P
Quote from: Zanza on July 15, 2014, 01:57:47 PMEurovision is not taken seriously at all in Germany.
Quote from: Zanza on July 15, 2014, 01:57:47 PMQuote from: Liep on July 15, 2014, 01:39:42 PMNot a fan, but she easily outsells every Eurovision contest singer in German-speaking countries. Eurovision is not taken seriously at all in Germany. Apart from Lena Meyer-Landrut about five years ago I couldn't name a single German contestant.
I assume then that the Eurovision is hugely popular in Germany? Because this song wouldn't even beat Armenia. :P
QuoteNationalism runs rampant in World Cup Germany
While many members of the Jewish community support the national team, others fear the accompanying xenophobia brought on by football fever
BERLIN — When child Holocaust survivor, Huguette Hermann, 86, watched Germany defeat Brazil 7-1 last week, she was proud of her country's team. She was particularly impressed with their humility after winning.
"They were so fair, they didn't exult or make a big show. I liked that. I think this is something new. I don't think that would have been like that in the 50s or even in the 60s," says Hermann.
Hermann has no problem with all the flags or expressions of German pride currently sweeping the country.
"I think it's normal. Every country would be proud if their team had got so far. If the British team got so far, the British would do just the same," says Hermann.
Hermann fled the Nazis in her native Belgium, and survived World War II in England. In 1950, she moved with her then husband to West Germany where she encountered an "atmosphere redolent of Nazism," she recalls.
"[West] Germany in the 50s was awful," she says, remembering Germans waxing nostalgic for the Nazi period and a latent animosity in the air. In the 50s she encountered a country without smiles and a cruel bureaucracy. "Today, they've gone to the other extreme," she observes.
Hermann lives on the bustling Chauseestrasse neighborhood of Berlin, where the atmosphere is light and festive. People of all races and nationalities walk the streets, which ahead of the World Cup finals are heavily adorned with German flags and fans wearing funny costumes supporting Germany.
Many of the team's fans are not even German. In Berlin's touristy Hackescher Markt, young people with faces painted red, yellow, and black wear artificial flower leis in the same colors. They drink beer in pubs festooned with German flags. Some speak Swedish; others in American accented English, and the festive atmosphere is akin to Munich's Oktoberfest. However, whereas Munich has its lederhosen, in Berlin during the World Cup is dominated by the German flag.
One German who will not be wearing any flags today is Stefan Kunath, 25. Kunath is an activist in Germany's left of center Die Linke party. In an online correspondence he writes, "Many Germans use the World Cup as [an] outlet to show their suppressed nationalistic feelings. This why soccer is not solely about soccer, but the regaining of German pride after Auschwitz..."
"Only during the World Cup usually sanctioned nationalistic attitudes become mainstream and widely accepted. Recent studies have shown that xenophobia and nationalism are increasing during World Cups in Germany. This is why I am sure that you can't get one thing (a happy football festival) without the other (xenophobia, nationalism)," he writes.
Will Kunath watch the game?
"I think I will watch the game and I hope to see them losing 7:1 for Argentina," writes Kunath.
Those slim odds certainly aren't the hope of Hermann's grandson, Doron Rubin, 32. Rubin was born and raised in the Stuttgart area, and today is the chairman of Berlin's fast growing Orthodox community, Adass Jisroel.
"The question if I feel like I am supporting my national team is a bit tricky, there is a long answer somewhere, but I guess I support them like a Jew in Switzerland is supporting Switzerland," says Rubin.
Other members of the Jewish community find it difficult to support the national team. Ioulia Isserlis, 24, like many of today's younger Jews in Germany, immigrated as a child from the Former Soviet Union. She grew up in Dresden, which unlike multicultural Berlin, is known as a less tolerant and conservative city, with annual neo-Nazi marches.
Today, Isserlis is happy to live in Berlin.
"In Dresden, they made sure that I never felt at home. In Berlin I feel at home because of the international community," says Isserlis.
Her experiences with German anti-Semitism and xenophobia weigh on Isserlis's relationship to her national team.
"As a Jew, you cannot fully support them," she says.
Yet, Isserlis is also an avid soccer fan.
"Germany is one of the best teams nowadays, of course if they win, they deserve it. If they win, I won't have negative feelings."
And which team would Isserlis support, if not Germany?
"If I were to choose a country to support, it would be Israel. But unfortunately Israeli soccer is not there yet," says Isserlis.
Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
It's beginning again! o/ 88 etc.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nationalism-runs-rampant-in-world-cup-germany/QuoteNationalism runs rampant in World Cup Germany
Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
It's beginning again! o/ 88 etc.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nationalism-runs-rampant-in-world-cup-germany/QuoteNationalism runs rampant in World Cup Germany
Already running out of diversions for the Gaza operation?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 16, 2014, 08:45:01 AMoh please :bleeding:Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
It's beginning again! o/ 88 etc.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nationalism-runs-rampant-in-world-cup-germany/QuoteNationalism runs rampant in World Cup Germany
Already running out of diversions for the Gaza operation?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 16, 2014, 08:45:01 AMQuote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
It's beginning again! o/ 88 etc.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nationalism-runs-rampant-in-world-cup-germany/QuoteNationalism runs rampant in World Cup Germany
Already running out of diversions for the Gaza operation?
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Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 04:26:02 AM
Some players decided to do a little dance: "The gauchos walk like this" (hunched over in defeat) "Germans/victors walk like this" (upright and happy).
Quote from: derspiess on July 16, 2014, 09:13:00 AMQuote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 04:26:02 AM
Some players decided to do a little dance: "The gauchos walk like this" (hunched over in defeat) "Germans/victors walk like this" (upright and happy).
:ultra:
Quote from: derspiess on July 16, 2014, 09:13:00 AMQuote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 04:26:02 AM
Some players decided to do a little dance: "The gauchos walk like this" (hunched over in defeat) "Germans/victors walk like this" (upright and happy).
:ultra:
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2014, 09:11:30 AMQuote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 02:52:39 AM
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I like the little cowboy hat on the Texanationalist.
Quote from: derspiess on July 16, 2014, 09:15:47 AM
I like that they included a Confederate one. I wonder if Lettuce thinks the Confederacy ought to have its own national soccer team.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
I can appreciate the sensitivity to German nationalism, saw it when the Wall first fell.
Hostory has proven when Germans get happy about being German:
1. borders get crossed
2. Jews die
Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2014, 11:47:16 AM
The World Cup final reenacted in LEGO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMOrT9Jytw#t=16
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2014, 11:23:43 AMQuote from: derspiess on July 16, 2014, 09:15:47 AM
I like that they included a Confederate one. I wonder if Lettuce thinks the Confederacy ought to have its own national soccer team.
Puts a new spin on trading players and transfer fees.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 16, 2014, 01:24:45 PM
Viking should draw a red card for rhat one :mad: