Languish.org

General Category => Off the Record => Gaming HQ => Topic started by: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2011, 09:14:01 PM

Title: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
Because we lost so much material from the crash.

QuoteNew from GMT Games. Fighting Formations: Grossdeutschland Infantry Division  marks the first in an ongoing series of wargames covering WWII tactical combined-arms combat at the platoon and squad levels. Each game will focus on several battles of a particular formation during World War II. Price: $85.
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-279-fighting-formations-grossdeutschland-infantry-division.aspx

Anyone order their copy?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 21, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
I played this on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2011, 10:19:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
I played this on Tuesday.

Well? Or do we have to mention taxing the wealthy to make you say more than 5 words?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Neil on April 21, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
I recommend that someone make a joke at CdM's expense in this thread.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2011, 11:51:36 PM
Oh yeah, because that never happens.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 22, 2011, 12:30:47 AM
Yeah, I pre-ordered it.  Haven't gotten the chance to play yet, unfortunately, but I'm probably going to play against a local guy within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 22, 2011, 07:17:01 PM
I liked it a lot, it has some pretty interesting mechanics. In some cases, I am not really sure those mechanics have much to do with WW2, but they make for interesting gameplay.

It plays very fast, which is nice.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 23, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 22, 2011, 07:17:01 PM
In some cases, I am not really sure those mechanics have much to do with WW2, but they make for interesting gameplay.

Can you give an example?  Is it the impulse-driven turns, or a subset to that?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 23, 2011, 09:00:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 23, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 22, 2011, 07:17:01 PM
In some cases, I am not really sure those mechanics have much to do with WW2, but they make for interesting gameplay.

Can you give an example?  Is it the impulse-driven turns, or a subset to that?

Well, the basic "impulse" mechanic is based on initiative.

There is an orders track, which looks like this:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic506536.jpg&hash=9a2c86647777255511712bc43d6667c176e3fa6b)

SO at the start of each turn, you take ten cubes and seed the track by rolling ten ten sided dice.

So maybe the result iis like this:

10, 9, 6, 6, 5, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1

So you put 1 cube on 10, 1 on 9, 2 on 6, etc., etc.

Whoever has the initiative (and there is chit that goes on that bottom track) gets to move next. He picks a cube off of the orders track. By doing so he can take whatever action is at that level of the cube or lower.

So lets say the initiative marker is on the 3 space on the Russian side, and he wants to take a 'Rally' action. There is no cube on the 4 spot of the track, so he has to take a 5 spot cube instead. So he takes that one, and his action costs him 5 initiative. The cube is removed from the track, and the initiative marker moves from the Russian 3 to the German 2. He takes his rally action, and then it is the Germans turn to do something. Actions may (and often do) take more than the track cost in initiative, since it costs init for each unit that takes the action as well, depending on their command status - so that Rally action could cost a bit more than just 5. BUt for our example lets just assume it costs him the base 5.

Now, if the Germans decide they want some asset cards, and take the 10 value cube, the initiative will go to Russian 8 - now the Russians could actually take several actions in a row, until he uses up enough initiative to push it back to the German side. You go back and forth like this until all the cubes are used up, and that is 1 turn. And the non-action player can use initiative as well, for reaction fire.

From a game perspective, it is a pretty neat mechanic - everything you do has a cost associated to it, and you have to think pretty carefully about whether low odds attacks (for example) are worth it. But it feels kind of eurogameyish.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 23, 2011, 10:18:23 AM
Hmmm, it sounds very intriguing.  I think the Eurogameyishism stems from a desire for fast, quick play.

I think I'll get it, even if it does pluralize "Soviets", which I find incredibly annoying.

And even though I'm a diehard Red Army fanboi, I'll grab any game with Panzer IV F2s.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on April 23, 2011, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 23, 2011, 10:18:23 AM
I think I'll get it, even if it does pluralize "Soviets", which I find incredibly annoying.
Well, it isn't a game of Germans against Soviets, or Germany against the Soviet Union, it is about Germany versus Soviets.  :lol:

I, too, find it irritating when publishers confuse countries with people, and vice-versa.  Pretty minor nit, though.

Seems like a nice, clean system, though fairly generic.  The different costs for a given action depending on side, plus unit capabilities may make my perception of blandness inaccurate, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
I see Decision is making another magazine with a game in it. This one on modern conflicts.

I should buy 10 issue ones and keep them in a cool dry place. they'll be a hundred bucks each on ebay in a year or so after release.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 26, 2011, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
I see Decision is making another magazine with a game in it. This one on modern conflicts.

I should buy 10 issue ones and keep them in a cool dry place. they'll be a hundred bucks each on ebay in a year or so after release.

Worth $100 dollars each in a year.  And yet, produced by Decision Games.  We call that: unfulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on April 26, 2011, 09:39:09 PM
What ever became of the Nappy game tracing the career of a general (or somesuch)?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 26, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Assuming you're talking about Legion of Honor from Clash of Arms, it's still in the works and seems to be nearing release.

They did an art dump not too long ago and have stated that the counters are finally finished, so it's probably just a couple months or so away.  Now that Moscowa is out, there's nothing in the way of it hitting the presses...

There was, however, a rather amusing kerfuffle over the game's art choice which you can see in the CSW folder for Clash.  Apparently, Hexasim used the same art without knowledge of Clash using it as well.  I'm skeptical of that, but it's hard to prove of course.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 26, 2011, 10:06:48 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 26, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Assuming you're talking about Legion of Honor from Clash of Arms, it's still in the works and seems to be nearing release.

They did an art dump not too long ago and have stated that the counters are finally finished, so it's probably just a couple months or so away.  Now that Moscowa is out, there's nothing in the way of it hitting the presses...

There was, however, a rather amusing kerfuffle over the game's art choice which you can see in the CSW folder for Clash.  Apparently, Hexasim used the same art without knowledge of Clash using it as well.  I'm skeptical of that, but it's hard to prove of course.

Been following that.  Considering the guy from Hexasim is on Ed's mailing list for all the LoH pre-pub adverts that's been going out for well over a year, I find it difficult to believe as well. 
Some people may think it's not that big of a deal, but for somebody like Ed who operates on such a little margin, I can understand why it would rub him the wrong way.  He took such a bath with Persian Incursion--which is a shame, because it's a great little model, but designed more for Harpoonheads--Moscowa couldn't come at a better time and he really wanted LoH to ride that wave.
I doubt that LoH will make the Origins/Historicon window that he wanted to make, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 27, 2011, 07:19:56 AM
And fuck, I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Wargame buying fever is flaring up.

I'm worse than Fred Flintstone and his betting problem.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 27, 2011, 07:19:56 AM
And fuck, I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Wargame buying fever is flaring up.

I'm worse than Fred Flintstone and his betting problem.

No shit.
I've run out of room in my all-games closet;  taking them out to put on proper bookcases this weekend, I think.  I'll post pics for all of you to jizz upon.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 27, 2011, 08:10:11 PM
Oh, yeah, talk wargamey to me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
BITCH I SAID SHIFT THE CRT BABY YOU WANT 1-2 ODDS DONT YOU SAY IT SAY IT
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
BITCH I SAID SHIFT THE CRT BABY YOU WANT 1-2 ODDS DONT YOU SAY IT SAY IT

Ah yes why Seedy's niece asks why he's alone.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2011, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
BITCH I SAID SHIFT THE CRT BABY YOU WANT 1-2 ODDS DONT YOU SAY IT SAY IT

Ah yes why Seedy's niece asks why he's alone.

And what's your excuse?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:33:45 PM
Daaaamn...who knew the Canuck had my back.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2011, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:15:43 PM
BITCH I SAID SHIFT THE CRT BABY YOU WANT 1-2 ODDS DONT YOU SAY IT SAY IT

Ah yes why Seedy's niece asks why he's alone.

And what's your excuse?

Who says I am?
Like I'm gonna tell you freaks about my love life.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
Like I'm gonna tell you freaks about my love life.

11 herbs and spices do not a romance make.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
Like I'm gonna tell you freaks about my love life.

11 herbs and spices do not a romance make.

I ain't no negro so of course there is no fried chicken involved :rolleyes:

Oh and Queensryche is playing the Fair this year :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Oh and Queensryche is playing the Fair this year :lol:

Woot! :punk:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 28, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.atomagazine.com%2Fimages%2FHN_Counters_Front_Slice.jpg&hash=c5bcda8767ef3d5e1ec1a6c89d4af71cbc7409b7)

Killing Krauts and Hungarians in a single game? SIGN ME UP
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 10:31:16 AM
:bleeding:  The game developed by Paul Koenig and then Lembit Tohver?  Pass.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 28, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
Ok, it is the rare colleration of stars when the Forint is strong while the Dollar is weak. It means: AN EXCUSE TO GO BOARDGAME SHOPPING!

I am looking for solitaire-friendly titles mostly. I have actually found an enthusiastic boardgaming group nearby, but:
a) we have a crapload of games already which I must sell them. Republic of Rome in particular. At least they do like High Frontier though, which is awesome
b) they are not really wargamers. Yet! :menace:

Whats the final word on that spanish civil war game by GMT?

How are the solitaire DVG games?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on April 28, 2011, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 27, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
Like I'm gonna tell you freaks about my love life.

11 herbs and spices do not a romance make.

I ain't no negro so of course there is no fried chicken involved :rolleyes:

Apparantly, Katmai fucks his chicken raw.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 06:34:43 PM
I hope he doesn't eat it after words.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 28, 2011, 11:16:48 AMI am looking for solitaire-friendly titles mostly.

You'd have a blast with GMT's Labyrinth.  Honestly.

QuoteWhats the final word on that spanish civil war game by GMT?

Looks light enough, but haven't played it yet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 29, 2011, 12:22:09 AM
I already own Labyrinth yes, it's great :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 29, 2011, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 28, 2011, 11:16:48 AMI am looking for solitaire-friendly titles mostly.

You'd have a blast with GMT's Labyrinth.  Honestly.

QuoteWhats the final word on that spanish civil war game by GMT?

Looks light enough, but haven't played it yet.

No shit?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 29, 2011, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 28, 2011, 11:16:48 AMI am looking for solitaire-friendly titles mostly.

You'd have a blast with GMT's Labyrinth.  Honestly.

QuoteWhats the final word on that spanish civil war game by GMT?

Looks light enough, but haven't played it yet.

No shit?

You know damned well my rate of acquisition outpaced my rate of play.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 30, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
I ain't no negro so of course there is no fried chicken involved :rolleyes:

<_<
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
I want to buy a boardgame. I don't know which. Any recommendation?


Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on April 30, 2011, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 30, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
I ain't no negro so of course there is no fried chicken involved :rolleyes:

<_<
Hey he's the one throwing around fried chicken insults.


Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 01, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
I want to buy a boardgame. I don't know which. Any recommendation?


Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.

Which type of boardgame?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.

Ugh, such a worn-out, obsolete Languish meme.  So sad.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 08:08:25 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.

Ugh, such a worn-out, obsolete Languish meme.  So sad.

Yet is true or have you played

HAVE YOU PLAYED?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 01, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
I want to buy a boardgame. I don't know which. Any recommendation?


Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.

Which type of boardgame?

I don't know. :unsure:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 01, 2011, 11:18:50 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 01, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 30, 2011, 10:31:54 PM
I want to buy a boardgame. I don't know which. Any recommendation?


Note that this a CdM game. I'll probably never play it.

Which type of boardgame?

I don't know. :unsure:

*slaps Gen. Wolfe hard across the face* Jesus Christ what's wrong with you, man?  :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on May 01, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
I don't know. :unsure:

Who do you want to play with?
When (i.e. what kind of occasion) do you want to play? Party? Friends? Devoted evening to gaming?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
In a fit of insanity, I ordered La Bataille de la Moscowa.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on May 01, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
I don't know. :unsure:

Who do you want to play with?
When (i.e. what kind of occasion) do you want to play? Party? Friends? Devoted evening to gaming?

As I said, I'll never get to play it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:07 AM
Yet is true or have you played

HAVE YOU PLAYED?

In no particular order, I have, since the first of this year played--WITH A REAL LIVE FTF OPPONENT, MIND YOU--

Hell of Stalingrad
Fires of Midway
Spearpoint '43
King Phillip's War
The Tide at Sunrise
Popular Front
Persian Incursion
Labyrinth
The Caucausus Campaign
Next up:  Either the Spanish Civil War, Baltic Gap, or another shot at Triumph of Chaos.  We haven't decided.


Much like Ed Anger, I don't bother telling you this stuff, since you're all not worth it.  But your little memes keep you warm at night, so I don't bother fighting it.

I will, however, continue to purchase games at a pace beyond my ability to play them.  That's just the way it's going to be.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
In a fit of insanity, I ordered La Bataille de la Moscowa.

You're going to jizz at the size, scope and quality of it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
In a fit of insanity, I ordered La Bataille de la Moscowa.

You're going to jizz at the size, scope and quality of it.

:)

I'm not even going to punch the fucker. If they put the rules online, I'll load it into my ipad and read them on the can.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 01, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
I would recommend the new edition of Twilight Struggle.  You might actually even get to play it, since the mechanics are incredibly simple.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Lettow77 on May 01, 2011, 08:13:46 PM
 I played and enjoyed twilight struggle a dozen times or so. The soviets were pretty rigged, it was felt.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 01, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
The Soviets, in the base game, certainly have a decent advantage (roughly 55/45, give or take) and the USA definitely takes a bit of finesse to play properly.  I think the Chinese Civil War variant and the new edition's additional cards go a good way to fixing that imbalance, however.  NORAD, especially.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on May 02, 2011, 02:32:48 AM
Because of the aformentioned reasons regarding my gaming group, I went on massive solitaire-spending, and  have ordered like 4 Victory Point Games solitaire games (Ottoman Sunset -goes well with me reading The Peace to End All Peace-, the pacifip war one, the russkie-bombing one, and Nemo's War)
Plus the über-expensive but sexy-looking newest edition of Hornet Leader.

nerdgasm!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 02, 2011, 11:51:42 AM
Something of an info dump for Legion of Honor was dropped today :

QuoteA game is divided into 16 Campaign Seasons for the "grand game." LoH provides two scenarios - the Republican (1792 to 1800) and the Imperial (1801 to 1815) - plus instructions on how to design your own scenario, which can be any length desired. The grand scenario with 6 players takes about 8 to 9 hours.

A campaign seasion consists of an administrative phase (the Campaign Season Segment) plus 0 or more In Garrison Rounds and 0 or more On Campaign Rounds (depending on what happened in that Campaign Season historically). Play is broken down into the following phases:

Organization of Play

Campaign Season Segment

1. The Fair Sex Phase - When using this optional rules, determine changes in the characteristics of a lady of quality in play: her charm, influence, and wealth.

2. Money Transfer & Tax Phase: Move money in between one's bank account ("Paris") and person ("Purse"). Tax the money in the bank at 10%.

3. Aging Phase: Determine the amount of Health points the player (the "Grognard") loses.

4. Assignment Phase: Determine any changes in the Grognard's Army (pre-Imperial) or Corps assignment. This is out of his control.

5. Glory Phase: Acquire Glory points for a Grognard who has a Legion of Honor (based on his level in the Legion) and for having a wife and/or mistress with charm (if playing with The Fair Sex).

In Garrison Round(s)

1. Recovery Phase: Check to see if a wounded Grognard is able to leave convalescence and re-enter normal play.

2. Income Phase: Collect income associated with rank and, if well advanced in life, from one's wife, office, title, Imperial Guard membership, and/or level in the Legion of Honor.

3. Support Phase: Pay for that expensive wife and/or mistress(es).

4. Deck Phase: Compose the deck for the round, inserting any relevant In Garrison Event Cards and the randomly selected In Garrison Cards.

5. In Garrison Phase: Act on each card dealt to a player in sequence. This is when duels can take place if the right conditions are met. This is also when a Grognard can try to get his assignment changed.

On Campaign Round(s) 1. Recovery & Health Phase: Same as above, but also an automatic decline in health due to the rigors of campaigning.

2. Income Phase: Same as above.

3. Support Phase: Same as above.

4. Deck Phase: Same as above, but for On Campaign Event Cards and On Campaign cards.

5. On Campaign Phase: Same as above, but for the On Campaign deck.

There are six kinds of cards:

In Garrison Event Cards (typically of a political nature)

In Garrison Cards (depicting the humdrum aspects of military and personal life while in garrison)

On Campaign Event Cards (typically of a military nature)

On Campaign Cards (depicting the humdrum aspects aspects of military life while on campaign plus minor military actions)

Combat Cards (to determine the battle outcome for one's unit during a major battle)

Duel with Swords Cards

Duel With Pistols

The above description does not do justice to the period color and even the dark humor woven into the game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on May 02, 2011, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 01, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
In a fit of insanity, I ordered La Bataille de la Moscowa.

You're going to jizz at the size, scope and quality of it.

:)

I'm not even going to punch the fucker. If they put the rules online, I'll load it into my ipad and read them on the can.
I've got punched and unpunched versions of all the games in this series (back to the original la Bataille de la Moskowa).   I think that, this time 'round, I will just keep an unpunched copy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 02, 2011, 01:00:27 PM
What the hell kind of game is Legin of Honour? :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: ulmont on May 02, 2011, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2011, 01:00:27 PM
What the hell kind of game is Legin of Honour? :huh:

French soldier RPG in nominal CDG format.
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/39941/legion-of-honor
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 02, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2011, 01:00:27 PM
What the hell kind of game is Legin of Honour? :huh:

Dropping letters from some words and adding them to others is just plain weird.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Caliga on May 02, 2011, 02:11:07 PM
Princesca found my copy of Empire of the Sun (GMT) last night while she was cleaning out some moving boxes... I got it right before we moved and never had the chance to look it over.  Is this a: good game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 02, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
If you like boredom, sure.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on May 02, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
Hehe, I've gone from likeing it, to hating, to tolerating it, to hating, and am now back to really, really, REALLY liking it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on May 02, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 02, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
Hehe, I've gone from likeing it, to hating, to tolerating it, to hating, and am now back to really, really, REALLY liking it.

I read a WLDLWW record right there!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on May 03, 2011, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on May 01, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
I don't know. :unsure:

Who do you want to play with?
When (i.e. what kind of occasion) do you want to play? Party? Friends? Devoted evening to gaming?

As I said, I'll never get to play it.

OK, let's try another line of questioning.

Do you want to get something that's out-of-print, or something that you can order direct from the current publisher?  Once you get it, do you intend to keep it just for the sake of having it, or are you thinking of getting something that might become a valuable collectible (if it's not already) that you can sell down the road at a profit?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 03, 2011, 05:06:13 PM
The kerpluffle at Consimworld over the GMT banner ads and that Pictavage dude making a banner of the new game 'Farting Formations' is amusing. Bonus points to Pictavge needling Berg into a rage post.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on May 03, 2011, 05:26:16 PM
What folder was that in?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 03, 2011, 05:30:42 PM
"upcoming game releases"

http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.ee6eca2

It wasn't much of a rage post, but it still amused me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on May 03, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Berg is resting on his laurels so much that he can't  even rage post well anymore.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 04, 2011, 04:05:14 PM
Getting closer...

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2FLOHCardSamples.jpg&hash=4ea1fc172a71d100eb31310bd46192503e829856)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 04, 2011, 04:07:06 PM
Is this The Duellists: The Game?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 05, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Inspired by The Battle of Algiers, I ordered Legion's Ici, c'est la France.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legionwargames.com%2Fimages%2FIci%2520Map%2520Web%2520-%2520small.jpg&hash=3025c98bd62d9410e09d1b1861446e3b373cb8ea)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2011, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 05, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Inspired by The Battle of Algiers, I ordered Legion's Ici, c'est la France.

Yeah, picked that up a month or so ago, nice production.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 05, 2011, 08:23:32 PM
Plus it has Evian Talks.  Very refreshing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 23, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
I got my La battalie whatever and should be getting GMT's Infidel soon.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 23, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
and should be getting GMT's Infidel soon.

Let us know what that's like;  I've been jonseing for some old fashioned crusading.  Do you have Men of Iron already?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 24, 2011, 08:34:08 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 23, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
and should be getting GMT's Infidel soon.

Let us know what that's like;  I've been jonseing for some old fashioned crusading.  Do you have Men of Iron already?

Yep. I played Men of Iron to death via vassal with a friend. Simple system, with each activation alternating you get to move or fight with a command. Better leaders can attempt to break in and take a activation. The game is basically one long turn until an army hits it flight level.

It is a simpler game and Berg seemed to have kept his chrome under control.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 25, 2011, 03:53:50 PM
Also:

http://www.locknloadgame.com/Section_Cat_Content_Detail.asp?SCAT=83&SID=33&ID=120

I liked the European one. Dead japs? Murder boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
Is that you, John Wayne?  Is this me?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 25, 2011, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
Is that you, John Wayne?  Is this me?

:lol:

Reminds me of the Spartacus game in Command magazine. The counter for Spartacus was a dead ringer for Kirk Douglas.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 04:37:45 PM
I've eased back on my own purchasing of late and mostly just traded for games in preparation for buying a good amount at the WBC auction this year.

Managed to snag This Accursed Civil War (completing my MPBS collection) in exchange for Afrika (SCS 2nd edition) and got a copy of Ace of Aces Rotary Deluxe for the Eagle Games' version of Conquest of the Empire.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 04:37:45 PM
Managed to snag This Accursed Civil War (completing my MPBS collection) in exchange for Afrika (SCS 2nd edition)

You won that round.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 04:37:45 PM
Managed to snag This Accursed Civil War (completing my MPBS collection) in exchange for Afrika (SCS 2nd edition)

You won that round.

Fuck yes I did.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
You guys may want to check out the soon-to-roll-out Strike Of The Eagle (http://academy-games.com/games/fog-of-war/strike-of-the-eagle), on the Soviet-Polish War of 1920;  back at Cold Wars, Uwe was so pleased that he actually met somebody that could talk to him at length about the Miracle on The Vistula he emailed me the drafts to the rulebook in March.

Very cool command-specific fog-of-war area system that can be knocked out in a decent evening.  Fascinating little production. Satisfies both your Murder Bolsheviks or Murder Polacks boners, depending on your mood.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 25, 2011, 08:15:06 PM
I almost pre-ordered that, but the map is...messy.  Reminds me of a plate of spaghetti (a la Clash of Monarchs), so I'm holding off until I see some good word.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 09:07:18 PM
I will admit it's not the most intuitive out there;  then again, I felt Triumph of Chaos took a lot of getting used to before I could really focus on it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on May 26, 2011, 01:46:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
You guys may want to check out the soon-to-roll-out Strike Of The Eagle (http://academy-games.com/games/fog-of-war/strike-of-the-eagle), on the Soviet-Polish War of 1920;  back at Cold Wars, Uwe was so pleased that he actually met somebody that could talk to him at length about the Miracle on The Vistula he emailed me the drafts to the rulebook in March.

Very cool command-specific fog-of-war area system that can be knocked out in a decent evening.  Fascinating little production. Satisfies both your Murder Bolsheviks or Murder Polacks boners, depending on your mood.

oh, sexy

but yeah the map is a bit chaotic
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on May 27, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
Anyone played C&C: Napoelon, Napoleon's War: the 100 days, or Battles of Napoleon: the Eagle and the Lion?  I am thinking it may be time to pick up a Napoleonic game. :hmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2011, 08:32:56 AM
Quote from: Kleves on May 27, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
Anyone played C&C: Napoelon

Never played the C&C system, but man, their fanbois at boardgamegeek are a trip.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 29, 2011, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 26, 2011, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
I see Decision is making another magazine with a game in it. This one on modern conflicts.

I should buy 10 issue ones and keep them in a cool dry place. they'll be a hundred bucks each on ebay in a year or so after release.

Worth $100 dollars each in a year.  And yet, produced by Decision Games.  We call that: unfulfilling prophecy.

Hey at least they use the SPI logo...... :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 31, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
I see consimworld is having the vapors over using a 'real name'. Old people. Wargamers.  :lol:

Enjoy the cyber stalking and the identity theft.



Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 31, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
There are a lot of giant douchebags (David Hughes, Michael "Whinella" Rinella, to name two) on CSW, but the people who aren't make it worth it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 31, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
In practice, by the way, you don't really need to use your real name.  A realistic fake name will suffice.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 05:24:01 AM
Alright board wargame guru's. I need some imput.

I'm looking at purchasing these games below. Yes, yes I know..Kursk, but I cant help myself. Looks like these guys have done on board, what I've been working on with my TOAW III scenario.

Anyone heard anything on these guys or these games?

DRK-GD
Add-on DRK-11TH PANZER
Add-on DRK-3RD PANZER
Key Features                                                                     
(14) 11" x 17" game maps of the Kursk area (Butovo to Ivnya)
(4) Full Color Order of Battle Charts
Air Support, Casualty, and Replacement Charts
Rules covering the use and benefit of patrols, reserves and overwatch movement
Rules Written as Battlefield Operating System (BOS) Representations (level of fidelity)
     Maneuver (High)
     Fire Support (Medium-High)
     Air Defense (Medium)
     Mobility and Survivability (High)                                                                                         
     Combat Service Support (Medium-High)
     Intelligence (Medium)
     Command and Control (Medium-High)
Approximately 1700 Die Cut Unit Counters and Markers
Germans at platoon and company/battery level, Red Army at company/battery level
Numerous scenarios that allow play on smaller parts of the battle or the entire affair
Highly detailed without overbearing rules
Excellent Solitaire Play

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grognardsims.com%2Fv%2Fimages%2Fsample_german_tanks.gif&hash=7e1f7232ac695889e6a0a25bc17e8c7830b33356)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grognardsims.com%2Fv%2Fimages%2Fkursk_map_sample.gif&hash=f018a2e8d800de61068bb01e5f4b16261c7d470c)

http://www.grognardsims.com/v/prod05.html
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 05:30:04 AM
Sequence of Play.

Aside from the July 4 day, which consists of 2 daylight turns and 2 nighttime turns, each day consists of 8 daylight turns and 2 nighttime turns. Each turn is broken down into the following sequence of play;
1. Air Allocation - once per day, first daylight turn

2. Combat Service Support- once per day, first daylight turn
a. Reinforcements/Withdrawals
b. Replacements
c. Reorganization
d. Intelligence
e. Supply determination (optional)

3. German Turn
a. Command and control- (optional) determining if units are within command range of their respective HQ.
b. Operations phase- movement, combat, creation or removal of obstacles, minefields, rafting sites
c. Close assault phase
d. Unit Suppression Recovery
e. Air Interdiction Placement/Return and Close Air Support Mission Return.

4. Red Army Turn- steps a-e above are repeated for Soviet player.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 06:03:39 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 05:24:01 AM
Anyone heard anything on these guys or these games?

DRK-GD
Add-on DRK-11TH PANZER
Add-on DRK-3RD PANZER

I expect my 11th Panzer to arrive in the mail today.  :P

Death Ride Kursk is a fantastic tactical level system;  I usually don't order games from little companies or one-man ops because of the production value (look how long it took Lock N Load to actually start pumping out quality components), but I have to say this system is a total blast.  I haven't even played the larger scenarios.

The cool thing is that it's wholly centered around the BOS, and the rules reflect that, so the'yre pretty light and straightforward so grunt like yourself would probably appreciate them.  :P It's drawn down on such a tactical level, the organic combat service support units such as trucks, maintenance, and medical have their own units. And you can split between a unit's primary weapon functionality and its secondary weaponry/small arms.  It's got fucking Overwatch Fire, for fuck's sake, because nothing's as annoying than Opportunity Fire fucktards messing with your plans.  How cool is that?

The only detractors I think it has:
---HQs:  Because so much gameplay and operational ability is tied to a unit's HQ, the current RAW makes it way too easy to unhinge your opponent's ops.  I haven't seen this kind of reliance on HQ units since Flashpoint:Golan.
---Counters:  They're heavyduty and designed well to contain a lot of info, but for the regular units it looks more like the Pink Army than the Red Army.  Whoo hoo, girlfriend! *snap, snap*
---More counters:  Not enough NKVD.  I can't shoot my troops for cowardice in the face of the Hun for the Party, like I can in Hell of Stalingrad.  Does have Pioneer units, though, so you can pinch your nipples when they blow shit up.

I highly recommend it.  Rules are a relative breeze, and it takes care of your massive tactical-level murder boner without paralysis by analysis like ASL.  I was so impressed, I bought all his Pacific-theater games.  Haven't decided on his new Arab-Israeli '73 game yet.

The designer is logged on CSW practically every day.  Very cool dude.

If you order them, order the "Deluxe Maps" versions.  They're just better.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 06:07:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 31, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
I see consimworld is having the vapors over using a 'real name'. Old people. Wargamers.  :lol:

Enjoy the cyber stalking and the identity theft.

Link me, haven't seen it in any of the threads I read.  Although I do sooo enjoy the cross-post pooh-slinging flare-ups between CSW and BBG;  man, some of these fuckers make EUOT look like an insurance company's extranet discussions.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 06:10:38 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 31, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
There are a lot of giant douchebags (David Hughes, Michael "Whinella" Rinella, to name two) on CSW, but the people who aren't make it worth it.

I want a Mark Pitcavage microbadge.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 06:34:47 AM
Great review CD, thanks. From a quick look at what I could see on their site, The OOB is pretty accurate. I will put these on order.

Massive Kursk wargames=  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:. Now if these guys continue w/ III panzer Corps and II SS Panzer Corps areas and Nipe comes out with his book, everything will be right in the world.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 06:49:07 AM
Yeah, he had such a positive response from the first game, he ramped up production of 3rd and 11th Panzer;  3rd wasn't supposed to come out until later in the summer, and 11th was slated for 2012.  Now you can have them all.  Right now.  Get them.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 01, 2011, 07:36:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 06:34:47 AM
Great review CD, thanks. From a quick look at what I could see on their site, The OOB is pretty accurate. I will put these on order.

Massive Kursk wargames=  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:. Now if these guys continue w/ III panzer Corps and II SS Panzer Corps areas and Nipe comes out with his book, everything will be right in the world.

What is it about Kursk that you find so appealling?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 07:41:22 AM
Date:           Order#:
06/01/2011  170

GSI-0004  Death Ride Kursk - Gross Deutschland; Deluxe Map Edition    1  $125.00  $125.00 

GSI-0007  Death Ride Kursk - 3rd Panzer; DME Expansion    1  $65.00  $65.00 

GSI-0010  Death Ride Kursk - 11th Panzer; Deluxe Map Edition    1  $85.00  $85.00

Blam, and that's how we roll. :P

 
 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 07:55:31 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2011, 07:36:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 06:34:47 AM
Great review CD, thanks. From a quick look at what I could see on their site, The OOB is pretty accurate. I will put these on order.

Massive Kursk wargames=  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:. Now if these guys continue w/ III panzer Corps and II SS Panzer Corps areas and Nipe comes out with his book, everything will be right in the world.

What is it about Kursk that you find so appealling?

Didnt see this Brain until I was getting ready to leave work. Sorry. I'll give you a reply tonight.
I take this battle from 04 July to 23-25 Aug '43 from the soviet prospective.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 09:24:49 AM
To generally sum it  up.
1. The amount of misinformation and myths about this battle. Lion's share of that on the commy Russians, which I believe did them a dis-service.

2. First time the Russians stopped a major German summer offensive in the shallow operational depths. Russians "were" worried and the Germans were over confident.

3. The effects that the German losses at Stalingrad had on this battle. Infantry

4. Both side essentially brought their "A" team of Army Group and below leadership to the battle.

5. The steady evolution of Russian organizational and doctrinal changes that culminated with this battle.

6. The initiative firmly passed as a result of Kursk.

7. How the hard core german fan bois try and eek out, find, justify, or what have you, a german victory, no matter how slight from fantasy land.

8. There's more, but I'm lazy and tired.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 01, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
ty
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.

Just link your collection, like I do.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/CountDeMoney

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 07:41:22 AM
Date:           Order#:
06/01/2011  170

GSI-0004  Death Ride Kursk - Gross Deutschland; Deluxe Map Edition    1  $125.00  $125.00 

GSI-0007  Death Ride Kursk - 3rd Panzer; DME Expansion    1  $65.00  $65.00 

GSI-0010  Death Ride Kursk - 11th Panzer; Deluxe Map Edition    1  $85.00  $85.00

Blam, and that's how we roll. :P

 


That is how we roll.

Great thing is, you ordered it today, you'll probably get them all on Friday.  He's that fast.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.

Just link your collection, like I do.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/CountDeMoney

I'm going to check that out tonite.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.

Just link your collection, like I do.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/CountDeMoney

:yes:  http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/habbaku
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 01, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.

Just link your collection, like I do.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/CountDeMoney



Shit, I'd have to actually inventory everything and figure out what all I do own.  I've probably forgotten the names of half the games I have.  Of course the ones I don't remember are mostly magazine games that came with the subscription and that I've never actually played.  But I've never actually sold a wargame (unless it was an extra copy) and I have stuff that I haven't opened the game box of in 30 years.

BTW, is your list complete?  I seem to recall that you owned March to Victory and Over There, but they aren't on your list.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
BTW, is your list complete?  I seem to recall that you owned March to Victory and Over There, but they aren't on your list.

Thanks for the reminder:)  I even saw stuff on Habby's list that reminded me of shit I forgot to put up there.

At first, I was like all, damn Habbsy, 220? And then I saw he was stacking it with Settlers stuff and other games that would land him before my Committee on Un-American Games, and that wounds my heart with a monotonous languor.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
But I've never actually sold a wargame (unless it was an extra copy) and I have stuff that I haven't opened the game box of in 30 years.

Ditto on both counts.  There's about 4 or 5 games I've ever traded as well.  And I'm still pissed about trading away A Gleam of Bayonets for War and Peace.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 10:36:01 PM
The games I have listed in my have owned and played that were SPI games were casualties. They got thrown away by my step-dad when I left home in '83. Nine years later, when the relationship got mended, I asked him about the games (not knowing he threw them away),  I just about punched him in the face. I loved the SPI "monster" games and I had "just a few" of them back then....lol

Im still thinking of dropping the coin for Highway to the Reich 2nd edition, just as a big F U to that dead MF.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 09:24:49 AM
7. How the hard core german fan bois try and eek out, find, justify, or what have you, a german victory, no matter how slight from fantasy land.

:lol:

Personally, as far as the Eastern Front goes, I'm a big fan of Bagration, all rolling up in AGC's ass donkey-dick style.  More dead Germans, and more delicious german fan boi tears.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 10:36:01 PM
The games I have listed in my have owned and played that were SPI games were casualties. They got thrown away by my step-dad when I left home in '83. Nine years later, when the relationship got mended, I asked him about the games (not knowing he threw them away),  I just about punched him in the face. I loved the SPI "monster" games and I had "just a few" of them back then....lol

Ouch.

And good to see Flashpoint: Golan, Arab-Israeli Wars, Central America and Vietnam in your list.  Demonstrative of heightened intelligence.
Oh, and you're not the only person I've seen rave about Panzer Command.  Feel like I missed something there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 11:43:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 09:24:49 AM
7. How the hard core german fan bois try and eek out, find, justify, or what have you, a german victory, no matter how slight from fantasy land.

:lol:

Personally, as far as the Eastern Front goes, I'm a big fan of Bagration, all rolling up in AGC's ass donkey-dick style.  More dead Germans, and more delicious german fan boi tears.

hehe Bargration was a Russian Masterpiece.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 11:55:30 PM
Spi's Air War has a low rating on Board Game Geek. Hell, once you got the rulesssss down it was smooth playing.....lol. I was an Air War junkie back in the day..loved that game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 02:49:12 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: dps on June 01, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
11B4V, I like you signature, and I've thought about copying it (with appropriate revisions), but I might get into trouble if I did.

Just link your collection, like I do.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/CountDeMoney

:yes:  http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/habbaku

Great collections guys. CdM, Hab, and Berkut.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 02, 2011, 05:33:47 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 11:55:30 PM
Spi's Air War has a low rating on Board Game Geek. Hell, once you got the rulesssss down it was smooth playing.....lol. I was an Air War junkie back in the day..loved that game.

:bleeding:

Great scenarios and database, though.  Unfortunately, I could never secure a scholarship to Colorado Springs to learn to play the damned thing when I was 13.  I'd use the counters for spares for other games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 06:29:34 AM
If I ever get un-lazy one of these days, I'll have to put my shit up on there.

I loved Air War. That and Fast Carriers.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4623/the-fast-carriers
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 06:55:52 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 06:29:34 AM
If I ever get un-lazy one of these days, I'll have to put my shit up on there.

I loved Air War. That and Fast Carriers.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4623/the-fast-carriers

I remember that one. Never played it though
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 02, 2011, 07:41:27 AM
I don't like to let people know what I have, it removes the element of surprise, which is critical in warfare.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 02, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 02, 2011, 07:41:27 AM
I don't like to let people know what I have, it removes the element of surprise, which is critical in warfare.

Yes, I can see how it would be a valid defensive tactic with the wife.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 02, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:07:18 PM
I'm still pissed about trading away A Gleam of Bayonets for War and Peace.

Ouch.  While I like War and Peace and think it was an under-rated game in many ways, that's not a good trade.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 02, 2011, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 02, 2011, 07:41:27 AM
I don't like to let people know what I have, it removes the element of surprise, which is critical in warfare.

I'm not worried;  I'm sure that mine is bigger than yours.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on June 02, 2011, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 02, 2011, 07:41:27 AM
I don't like to let people know what I have, it removes the element of surprise, which is critical in warfare.

Habs will have already played with them and told them all your secrets.  He plays the field and is very indiscrete about such things.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 02, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
OK, I've started a list of my collection:  http://boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/dps1962  I'm up to 100 games, mostly from memory.  I'll add more games later, and put the like in my sig when it's reasonable complete.  That might take a while;  I don't really want to devote a lot of time at once to this, and I anticipate that the total is well over double what I have listed so far.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 02, 2011, 04:42:14 PM
I saw a reprint of Talisman at a random game store the other day.  Now 12 year old me played that a lot with my similarily geeky friends.

I wasn't the one who owned it though.

Anyone think it would hold up well enough to play in my 30s?  Anyone think it is accessible enough to play with my wife, brother and sister in law (we stayed up playing Settlers of Catan till 2am last weekend)?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
Here ya go. As you can tell, I'm lazy and haven't entered everything.

http://boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/Sweater%20Vest
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 02, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
Quote from: dps on June 02, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:07:18 PM
I'm still pissed about trading away A Gleam of Bayonets for War and Peace.

Ouch.  While I like War and Peace and think it was an under-rated game in many ways, that's not a good trade.

Well, I was 15 at the time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
I still remember how much I paid for War and Peace. 16 bucks direct from AH. Even remember the day I got it. I just came home from having a dentist drill into my teeth and there was my package on the doorstep. I remember being extra careful not to drool blood on it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 02, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
I still remember how much I paid for War and Peace. 16 bucks direct from AH. Even remember the day I got it. I just came home from having a dentist drill into my teeth and there was my package on the doorstep. I remember being extra careful not to drool blood on it.

I remember my Dad ordered AH's Midway for my 13th birthday.  Those two weeks in July of waiting for the Big Brown Truck(tm) to arrive were some of the longest of my life.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 02, 2011, 08:38:29 PM
You know, everytime I see a UPS truck turning onto my street, I get an irrational hope that someone has ordered me a wargame as a gift.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: dps on June 02, 2011, 08:38:29 PM
You know, everytime I see a UPS truck turning onto my street, I get an irrational hope that someone has ordered me a wargame as a gift.

The big brown truck is good. Waiting for the Kursk wargames and PC:ostfront.

Even had an engine block delivered from ford racing a year ago..nice guys those brown truck drivers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 02, 2011, 09:01:08 PM
Dude, you have the Assault series.  Me so jealous.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
I know this is board wargaming thread, but I had to share this. Been running various comp v. comp run throughs for past year.

Toaw III (Version new patch 3.4) :ultra:
A Mid Summer Dream (17th testing of version J )
Kusrk (South)
Comp v. Comp Turn 10
Afternoon 7 July '43
photo may be large, dont know with screen hunter
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 02, 2011, 10:28:55 PM
The Germans appear to be in what we call "a pickle."
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:29:16 PM
I download a pdf of of Death Ride's game play. Looks very good. Cant wait till they get here.

II SS and III Panzer area.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:34:02 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2011, 10:28:55 PM
The Germans appear to be what we call "a pickle."

Yes it would appear so :yeahright:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 02, 2011, 10:38:27 PM
:yeahright:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2011, 10:36:01 PM
The games I have listed in my have owned and played that were SPI games were casualties. They got thrown away by my step-dad when I left home in '83. Nine years later, when the relationship got mended, I asked him about the games (not knowing he threw them away),  I just about punched him in the face. I loved the SPI "monster" games and I had "just a few" of them back then....lol

Ouch.

And good to see Flashpoint: Golan, Arab-Israeli Wars, Central America and Vietnam in your list.  Demonstrative of heightened intelligence.
Oh, and you're not the only person I've seen rave about Panzer Command.  Feel like I missed something there.
A qiuck overview of PC. I wish they would have expanded it.
http://ftp.grognard.com/reviews/panzcomm.txt

http://ftp.grognard.com/reviews1/panzerpc.txt
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 12:26:24 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2011, 10:28:55 PM
The Germans appear to be what we call "a pickle."

I dunno, some of those German units have some obscene attack and defense values.  Knowing TOAW they could probably herd a great deal of those Soviet Units into encirclements fairly easily.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 03, 2011, 12:30:23 AM
I've never really gotten into TOAW (primarily because my CD of TOAW III has a huge gash in it and I've never bothered to "pirate" the files needed to actually play it), but it seems like the Germans in the first pic are mostly surrounded.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 03, 2011, 12:34:35 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 12:26:24 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2011, 10:28:55 PM
The Germans appear to be what we call "a pickle."

I dunno, some of those German units have some obscene attack and defense values.  Knowing TOAW they could probably herd a great deal of those Soviet Units into encirclements fairly easily.
Naw Habs is correct.
Not really insane, a lot of thing effect those factors
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 03, 2011, 01:24:37 AM
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/structure.htm
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
Newly ordered:

Compass- Proud Monster Deluxe(pre-order) and Yalu & Bataan!(why?)

Lock 'n Load- Summer Lightning and that Space Infantry game

Like I need more games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2011, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
Newly ordered:

Compass- Proud Monster Deluxe(pre-order) and Yalu & Bataan!(why?)

Lock 'n Load- Summer Lightning and that Space Infantry game

Like I need more games.

LOL, waiting on my Infidel, Summer Lightning and None But Heroes myself.

I need more games.  But I don't know why.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:29:16 PM
Cant wait till they get here.

I got mine.  You get yours?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:29:16 PM
Cant wait till they get here.

I got mine.  You get yours?
Not yet. Should be anytime now.

Been looking at some TSR/SPI games;
Panzer Gruppe Guiderian
TSR Cobra
TSR Drive on Stalingrad
SPI Kharkov
The whloe GDW Assault series again

Also, What's you alls opinions on two Civil War games;
Descion Games "War Between the States"???? An SPI monster copy???
or
Victory Games "The Civil War"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
Also, What's you alls opinions on two Civil War games;
Descion Games "War Between the States"???? An SPI monster copy???
or
Victory Games "The Civil War"

Decision Games came out with a WBTS 2nd Edition a few years ago, so they're available; you don't have to score an old SPI copy, since DC has the SPI rights.

I'm pretty sure everybody here will say VG's Civil War is the consensus pick.  Personally, I think it edges out WBTS as well, mainly because you can drill down and truly prioritize your actions on the specific theaters.  But WBTS has a production spiral and other kind of neato production and supply stuff.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
Also, What's you alls opinions on two Civil War games;
Descion Games "War Between the States"???? An SPI monster copy???
or
Victory Games "The Civil War"

Decision Games came out with a WBTS 2nd Edition a few years ago, so they're available; you don't have to score an old SPI copy, since DC has the SPI rights.

I'm pretty sure everybody here will say VG's Civil War is the consensus pick.  Personally, I think it edges out WBTS as well, mainly because you can drill down and truly prioritize your actions on the specific theaters.  But WBTS has a production spiral and other kind of neato production and supply stuff.
I'll put VG's Civil War on the hit list for next month. I just ordered SPI/TSR's TSS and AGoB from noble knight. That will round out the Civil War for awhile.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM
As much as burning the entire South in an orgasm of fire and death totally makes my nipples hard, I've always found it difficult to get into the strategic-level games;  smaller the units, the better.

I'm waiting for my copy of None But Heroes, which is MMP's new ACW regimental/battery-level system.   Combine that with the addition of new games as well as redoing the old ones in the GBACW system, I think those are the levels I prefer for the ACW.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 04, 2011, 05:10:09 PM
If you play VG's Civil War as the Union, insist on the Lyons/Jackson optional rule. Lyons able to command an army is much more useful than the South's benefit of yet another good army commander.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 04, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
Also, What's you alls opinions on two Civil War games;
Descion Games "War Between the States"???? An SPI monster copy???
or
Victory Games "The Civil War"

Decision Games came out with a WBTS 2nd Edition a few years ago, so they're available; you don't have to score an old SPI copy, since DC has the SPI rights.

I'm pretty sure everybody here will say VG's Civil War is the consensus pick.  Personally, I think it edges out WBTS as well, mainly because you can drill down and truly prioritize your actions on the specific theaters.  But WBTS has a production spiral and other kind of neato production and supply stuff.
I'll put VG's Civil War on the hit list for next month. I just ordered SPI/TSR's TSS and AGoB from noble knight. That will round out the Civil War for awhile.

As far as it goes, I'd recommend both "War Between the States" and "The Civil War", but if you are only going to get one of the two, "The Civil War" is the way to go.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Razgovory on June 04, 2011, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 04, 2011, 05:10:09 PM
If you play VG's Civil War as the Union, insist on the Lyons/Jackson optional rule. Lyons able to command an army is much more useful than the South's benefit of yet another good army commander.

He's my hero :wub:  Lyons, that is.  Not Jackson.  I think I had ancestors who served under him in St. Louis.  When they fired into a pro-Confederate mob.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 05, 2011, 12:18:47 PM
I was searching around boardgamegeek trying to find, but not remembering a few obsure ziplock games I owned back in the early days. Played these so far back (1979). Even forgot the names of them. I know I played them, owned them, just couldnt remember the name or much about the game play. Probably too much of the sticky-icky back then. Finnaly pulled them up by visual recognition of their covers.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4245/asteroid-zero-four

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3160/holy-war

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3466/warpwar

Ordered Zero-four from trool and toad. The others for next month.



Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 05, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
Ah, WarpWar. The game where every one of my ship designs were so shitty, I might as well not even bothered.

I think my Mom threw my copy away way back when.

Also, Decision should have WarpWar cheap, since they do Excalibre's(the dude that owns the rights) games
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 07, 2011, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 02, 2011, 10:29:16 PM
Cant wait till they get here.

I got mine.  You get yours?
Got it today. Cracked open GD prior to leaving for work and grabbed the rule book. :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 07, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 07, 2011, 07:42:36 PM
Got it today. Cracked open GD prior to leaving for work and grabbed the rule book. :D

Should've grabbed 11 Pz's as well;  has some minor changes in red.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 08, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 07, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 07, 2011, 07:42:36 PM
Got it today. Cracked open GD prior to leaving for work and grabbed the rule book. :D

Should've grabbed 11 Pz's as well;  has some minor changes in red.

Did the first good read through of the rules to include 11th Pz. Very good , very good. I like what I see. Clean and straight forward. Some of the rules I'm impressed with are; Combined Arms Modifiers, Reorg, Maint/Med/Replacement rules,  Levels of Suppression, Combat Patrols, Counter Batt Fire, CAS, and The open type operations phase.

The supply rules (optional) IMO are overkill for the level of simulation. There is already C&C.

Stacking is kind of befuddling. It says: "Units can retreat through friendly units but not end the turn in the same hex in excess of stacking limits." It says nothing else. Are the retreating units eliminated if they do and can go nowhere else? Or is there a displacement rule? Where as the retreating unit displaces a non-retreating unit which is now supressed, beings that the non-retreating unit was displaced? Probably this is not a common occurence, more like a rare one....but then again Murpy's Law always strikes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
TSS and Gleam of Baynets came in today. Along with Asteroid Zero-Four.

On the hunt for two others; Bitter End and SPI's Outreach. Let me know if anyone gets a line on one of these. If you dont mind.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 11, 2011, 04:37:31 PM
You try Noble Knight?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2011, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2011, 04:37:31 PM
You try Noble Knight?

Out for Noble and Toad.... :cry:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 11, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
Fine Games might have it. If you can stand their weird ass online ordering.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 12, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
I know it is going to disappoint Seedy, but I bought Munchkin today.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 12, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
I know it is going to disappoint Seedy, but I bought Munchkin today.
Never seen that one before. We all have our dark secrets.... :ph34r: Just last night I was browsing through the card set on WoC. I left off at Weatherlight. I was like..... :huh:. Then just started browsing cards on Noble. "Natural Order" 30.00. I said to myself, I think I got that one, havent looked in my card folders for years. I did, six mint copies.  :lmfao: Then I looked at a couple of the decks that are still together that I used to run back in the day.
From the Elephant Deck
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtgvault.com%2Fimages%2Fcards%2Fmedium%2FARN%2FElephant_Graveyard.jpg&hash=c65f5b90ff0a6ab0d3adee41e18c88f71bb0a0ac)
From the White Lightning deck
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmtg%2Fimages%2Fa%2Fa7%2FJihad_AN.jpg&hash=4a799d5245f17d440eb9822c08624792b2134b11)

From the Land Destroyer
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmagic.tcgplayer.com%2Fdb%2Fcards%2F1387.jpg&hash=6a90c17727a7d2746dbe4661a67522c2f1506d18)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collectorscache.com%2FStoreModules%2FProductImages%2F98%2Fsinkhole.jpg&hash=29b32a4690ca217e0bf9578c3898327848115954)

Reliezed I was a little old school to some of the players today. :lmfao:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 12, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Munchkin:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fogres%2Fimages%2F4%2F44%2F20081214-munchkin-card2.jpg&hash=2aef68c2b8e27939fffd46c04965b17ac45fc1d8)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 12, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
I know it is going to disappoint Seedy, but I bought Munchkin today.

Well, you are a parent.  It's a known scientific fact that owning children retards higher thinking.



But I will admit, Munchkin is fun as balls.  :blush:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.

Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 12, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Yep.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.

Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.
Looks like it is what a board air game IMO should be and looking forward to it.

The board "air to air" games are just eclisped by the computer simulations now. Nostalgia only, would be the only real reason to play them IMO. Everytime I think of running an "Air War" fight with three Israeli mirages against ten raghead migs, I just cant justify it and I'm pretty good with the rules. Easier and better to fire up Strike Fighters 2: Israel. Air War, is in the end, what you get when you try to put a realistic flight sim on board.

I will still get the GDW Air series and the Heat of Speed :huh:I think it's called. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 12, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
I know it is going to disappoint Seedy, but I bought Munchkin today.

Had to ED. First thing that came to mind. Loved Jordan in this movie.

"Will you tell General Seedy, that General Anger sends his regrets. Will you tell him.... how very sorry I am."
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgcaggiano.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F03%2Frjordan2.jpg&hash=6ad3ffa59e43bb896cec374e17415c4570b06980)

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2011, 01:34:25 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 12, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Yep.

Bah.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 13, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.

Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Ask me how it was boring as all hell.

Downtown is parallel solitaire.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 15, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 13, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.

Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Ask me how it was boring as all hell.

Downtown is parallel solitaire.

I'll most and likely be getting Elusive Victory also. I think it will have different dynamics than DT. Different type of conflict.

A Faulklands version I think could be interesting.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 15, 2011, 07:34:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 15, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 13, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.

Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Ask me how it was boring as all hell.

Downtown is parallel solitaire.

I'll most and likely be getting Elusive Victory also. I think it will have different dynamics than DT. Different type of conflict.

A Faulklands version I think could be interesting.

I have EV, and I think it has much more potential, since it is not quite as asymmetric as DT.

I still like the idea of a fictional 1980ish WW3 game using that engine. That would be awesome.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 15, 2011, 09:18:59 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 15, 2011, 07:34:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 15, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 13, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 12, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
BTW talking to a dude on BGG to buy Downtown Hanoi. Seems like a interesting game. I will probably look at the Mideast Version, if DT Hanoi is as good as they say.

Awesome game.  Great mechanics for larger scale air ops than the usual fighter vs fighter theme.  The Battle of Britain one is cool too.


Ask Berkut how I beat his ass like a whore in the one Downtown scenario we played via Vassal.

Ask me how it was boring as all hell.

Downtown is parallel solitaire.

I'll most and likely be getting Elusive Victory also. I think it will have different dynamics than DT. Different type of conflict.

A Faulklands version I think could be interesting.

I have EV, and I think it has much more potential, since it is not quite as asymmetric as DT.

I still like the idea of a fictional 1980ish WW3 game using that engine. That would be awesome.

That would be even better and massive. :yes: About late 1980's. From Norway to Turkey.

"Newclear combat, toe to toe with the Ruskies"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 15, 2011, 09:22:41 AM
You ever play GDW's Third World War games? Totally awesome.

Link the 3 European games together and you get a bucketfull of Russian killin'.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 15, 2011, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 15, 2011, 09:22:41 AM
You ever play GDW's Third World War games? Totally awesome.

Link the 3 European games together and you get a bucketfull of Russian killin'.
Never played, but I do remember those
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 15, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
I had all four games. And sold all four so I could meet a house payment. :weep:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 15, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 15, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
I had all four games. And sold all four so I could meet a house payment. :weep:

Ass.


Those 4 titles are the sole members of my Holy Grail list.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 15, 2011, 07:32:20 PM
Got 'em all.  I've played the Balkan and Gulf games, but not the other 2.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 15, 2011, 07:52:48 PM
I always though Arctic Front was the funnest of the bunch. Low counter density and it had Finns. Who pre-internet, I thought were cool, military wise.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 15, 2011, 10:13:08 PM
Military wise, they are.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Jaron on June 15, 2011, 10:13:49 PM
Give them enough mouth sugar and they will blitz anyone you wish.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 16, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
DT got here today. All I got to say is WOW, what a beautiful looking game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 04:30:14 PM
Ordered from GMT:

Command & Colors: Napoleonics (though the first expansion is Spain, ugh)
Fading Glory
Sun of York

Thinking about:

No Retreat
Pax Baltica
Dominant Species - Card Game
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 16, 2011, 06:15:17 PM
Quote from: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 04:30:14 PM
Thinking about:

No Retreat
Dominant Species - Card Game

:x
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
Really, no love for No Retreat? I thought it was fairly well respected. I do need a new, relatively low-complexity Eastern Front game; Stalin's War doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 16, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
The designer's probably one of the biggest douchebags in existence.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 16, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
The designer's probably one of the biggest douchebags in existence.
This Paradis guy? He doesn't seem so bad on BGG. Jensen seems to be much more of a douche.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
MMP announced plans for another OCS monster on Case Yellow: The Blitzkrieg Legend.  It's as if millions of Werhmacht fanboi voices suddenly cried out in joy and were suddenly silenced in post-orgasmic drowsiness.

QuoteThe Blitzkrieg Legend simulates Case Yellow, the German offensive in May of 1940 that shocked the world. In less than a month's time it made quick work of Belgium and Holland, shattered the armies of France, and pushed the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) into the sea at Dunkirk. This twelfth game in theOperational Combat Series (OCS) departs from its established norms in using a ground scale of 3 miles per hex and a time scale of two-day turns, and as such is similar to Sicily. The chosen scale lets this lightning campaign unfold a bit more slowly, and gives the densely-packed armies more room to maneuver.

Case Yellow achieved the largest pocket ever to be created in the war, with the largest number of captured soldiers as well. This result is sometimes looked upon by gamers and historians alike as a foregone conclusion, but Manstein's daring strike through the Ardennes was a gamble that might easily have gone awry. Hindsight suggests the fighting could have gone much differently.

A range of historical problems confront the player directing the Allies in this game. His French, Belgian, Dutch, and BEF combat units have not yet mastered the faster pace of action in WWII, and therefore are slow and don't fight at full Action Rating when in Move Mode. The Allies are also forced to adopt the historical Dyle Plan (when not playing the what-if version of the campaign), which leaves the French with inadequate reserves behind the Ardennes and too many of their best forces committed to shielding Antwerp and Brussels. Because history tells us the headlong rush into Belgium was primary cause of the quick Allied defeat, an "If I Was in Charge..." version of the campaign is presented to allow both sides to explore some different initial deployments.

A simple set of campaign objectives are presented, with Victory Point awards centered on the following:

• The French must vigilantly protect Paris, which is the ultimate German objective. Two more cities along the map's south edge, Verdun and Metz, are also worth points (so the French cannot just abandon the Maginot Line).

• The possible surrender of Holland is triggered by German armor moving adjacent to any of the three Dutch major cities. Surrender chances are modified if the French and BEF are supporting Holland (which is why French 7th Army initially moved north of Antwerp).

• The possible surrender of Belgium and BEF Evacuation are triggered when the Germans drive a wedge between the Belgian coast and Paris. Surrender chances are modified, however, if the French and BEF are supporting Belgium (another nod toward the historical rationale of the Dyle Plan).

• The Germans also win points for battering the BEF, so the Allies are encouraged to keep this force intact.

The game's special rules are judiciously chosen to evoke the full flavor of the campaign. For instance, the Maginot Line is given its historical due, shown as a strong right shield that can unfortunately be outflanked through the Ardennes. Rules for special operations are something new to OCS, and these can capture enemy bridges and forts (but just on 10 May unless playing an optional rule). As mentioned above, the BEF can get isolated or mauled as part of the victory conditions, and if this happens a ragtag assemblage rides to the rescue: RN Destroyers, special Evacuation Ports, elite Irish and Welsh battalions, and even some Spitfires finally appear to provide some top-cover. Mix in the occasional Pause — an event that tugs sharply on the panzers' leash — and you've the kind of chrome that make The Blitzkrieg Legend a tremendous tool for historical study and an exciting source of gaming  pleasure.

The Blitzkrieg Legend is also a game with tremendous replay value.  Presented are 7 scenarios and 3 campaigns. The longest is just 13 turns; the largest fits on a standard 4' x 6' table.  Series veterans know the depth of the model can lead to some long and complex turns, but here at last we have an entire campaign that can easily be played to the finish!

Scenarios

   1. South.  The first 4 turns on the southern half of Map B. Covers the fighting at Sedan as well as the crossings of the Meuse further downstream by 6th and 8th Panzer.
   2. Center. The first 4 turns on the northern half of Map B. Covers the fighting at Gembloux Gap as well as the crossings of the Meuse by 5th and 7th Panzer.
   3. North. The first 4 turns on Map C. Covers the air landings and surrender of Holland.
   4. Mini-Campaign. Links the first three scenarios into a short campaign using two maps.
   5. Sedan. Lasts just 2 turns and uses just a small portion of Map B. Covers the French counterattack and German breakout.
   6. Arras. Lasts just 1 player turn. A teaching scenario covering the Allied counterattack.
   7. Dynamo. Lasts 8 turns. Plays like a campaign game, using just Map A to cover the important events during the last half of the campaign.

Campaigns

   1. "No Holland" Version. Doesn't include the fighting in Holland, which is "automatic" and not under player control. Uses two maps, the full 13 turns.
   2. "With Holland" Version. Uses all three maps, the full 13 turns.
   3. "If I Was in Charge..."  Several variations on either of the two campaigns are offered.

The Blitzkrieg Legend Components:

    * OCS Series Rulebook
    * TBL Game Specific Rulebook
    * Two Charts and Tables Booklets
    * Full Color Game Map (two 22x34, one 28x15) (Take a look!)
    * 1,960 Counters (Sheet 1)  (Sheet 3)
    * One 8.5x11 Play Aid
    * 10 Scenarios (3 of them are Campaign Scenarios)
    * Box and Dice
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2011, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
This Paradis guy? He doesn't seem so bad on BGG. Jensen seems to be much more of a douche.
Habs has probably met him.  I don't think I've ever met any of those dudes and thought they were douchebags, but some seemed a little weird (e.g. Ted Raicer).  I've met a couple that were totally awesome, such as Andy Lewis, Mark Miklos, Keith Cumiskey, and Gene Billingsley (even if the latter is a kiddie diddler  :Embarrass: )
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 16, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
I like Ty Bomba. There, I said it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 16, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 16, 2011, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kleves on June 16, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
This Paradis guy? He doesn't seem so bad on BGG. Jensen seems to be much more of a douche.
Habs has probably met him.  I don't think I've ever met any of those dudes and thought they were douchebags, but some seemed a little weird (e.g. Ted Raicer).  I've met a couple that were totally awesome, such as Andy Lewis, Mark Miklos, Keith Cumiskey, and Gene Billingsley (even if the latter is a kiddie diddler  :Embarrass: )

Haven't met him personally, alas.  He actually completely bailed on the Montreal convention I went to in April precisely because he knew myself and a few other people who loathed him would be there--this despite scheduling an event for some newbies that he was supposed to be teaching something.

He's a fuckhead on CSW all the time and acts like a child whenever anyone disagrees with him on anything.  It's quite bizarre to see him melt down.

I will ditto that Andy Lewis is a class-act and a fun guy to be around.  I think I've met Mark Miklos, but don't recall entirely.  Ted Raicer is a giant creep, makes bad games (BtB and POG being the exceptions) and said he was moving to Canada if Bush won reelection.  He now lives in Florida.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
I like Ty Bomba. There, I said it.

I'm the guy on BGG always bitching about wanting an Adam Starkweather microbadge.

And I consider Ed at COA a buddy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 16, 2011, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
I like Ty Bomba. There, I said it.

I'm the guy on BGG always bitching about wanting an Adam Starkweather microbadge.

:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 17, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM


I'm waiting for my copy of None But Heroes, which is MMP's new ACW regimental/battery-level system.   Combine that with the addition of new games as well as redoing the old ones in the GBACW system, I think those are the levels I prefer for the ACW.

You get it yet?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 17, 2011, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 17, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM


I'm waiting for my copy of None But Heroes, which is MMP's new ACW regimental/battery-level system.   Combine that with the addition of new games as well as redoing the old ones in the GBACW system, I think those are the levels I prefer for the ACW.

You get it yet?

I went with Cool Stuff Inc, so it's waiting to come in from MMP.  Cheaper.  So I wait.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 20, 2011, 06:20:40 AM
I'm so bad. :lmfao:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 20, 2011, 06:37:23 AM
You sure are. :lmfao:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 20, 2011, 07:00:02 AM
Yea, got WV, Ney v. Wellington, and In Their Quiet Fields II coming. I'll have to move around the Bowflex, Stat Bike, and Ellipitical down in the den/war room.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 20, 2011, 07:37:07 AM
In a fit of boardgame-nerdness, I ordered Conquest of Planet Earth and Battles of Westeros. My wallet is crying.

Also, yesterday I played Mansions of Madness. Fun, fun, fun!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 20, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
Ive been keeping my eye open for something I could get the old lady into. I just dont think Air War or TSS will be of much interest to her....... :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 20, 2011, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 20, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
Ive been keeping my eye open for something I could get the old lady into. I just dont think Air War or TSS will be of much interest to her....... :lol:

Might try POG, or some other card-driven game. 

Diplomacy would be a possibility, if you can get enough other people together.

Or, if you can already get her to play Risk, step her up to Axis and Allies.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 20, 2011, 09:30:33 AM
Euro games. There is a plenty, and a lot of them are actually decent for proper boardgamers to play, while casual-friendly.

Alternatively, find a game on a topic which strongly interests her. Like War of the Ring if she is into the whole Tolkien thing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on June 20, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
And I consider Ed at COA a buddy.
Ed Wimble is a terrific guy and smart as hell.

I just wish I could get him to write down some of his stuff in longer form than designer notes.  Alas, his muse is for short, pithy stuff.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2011, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 20, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
And I consider Ed at COA a buddy.
Ed Wimble is a terrific guy and smart as hell.

I just wish I could get him to write down some of his stuff in longer form than designer notes.  Alas, his muse is for short, pithy stuff.

lol, yeah.  Quite frankly, he strikes me as the kind of guy that has so much going on in his head, he doesn't have the time to put it all down.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2011, 03:49:13 AM
Anyone know anything on this one???

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/67272/alma-balaclava-inkerman-1854-bloody-steppes-of

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic803987.jpg&hash=10963884e8abd09269f5cfdd3b4b49486f1fa7a9)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic816800.jpg&hash=4d67e5df8208b6c08fb01537b64413e26eb887ae)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 21, 2011, 04:12:31 AM
My personal take is that the PC has become vastly superior to the tactical simulation of battles. Probably operational ones as well, but that's debatable due to the lack of computer content.

So for quite many years I have been concentrating on more strategic board games. The social aspect is there and the same (except better), and due to the lack of good strategical coverage of historical conflicts on PC, I don't feel like doing something I could do ten times easier on the computer.

It's not a complaint though or wanting to fling crap at your preferences, just a random outburst of personal opinion :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2011, 04:57:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 17, 2011, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 17, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM


I'm waiting for my copy of None But Heroes, which is MMP's new ACW regimental/battery-level system.   Combine that with the addition of new games as well as redoing the old ones in the GBACW system, I think those are the levels I prefer for the ACW.

You get it yet?

I went with Cool Stuff Inc, so it's waiting to come in from MMP.  Cheaper.  So I wait.

OK, CSI just sent me an email overnight;  they're sending me my order of None But Heroes, GMT's Infidel, and the ASL Starter Kit Expansion Pack #1.  Wooties.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2011, 05:23:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2011, 04:57:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 17, 2011, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 17, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2011, 03:49:44 PM


I'm waiting for my copy of None But Heroes, which is MMP's new ACW regimental/battery-level system.   Combine that with the addition of new games as well as redoing the old ones in the GBACW system, I think those are the levels I prefer for the ACW.

You get it yet?

I went with Cool Stuff Inc, so it's waiting to come in from MMP.  Cheaper.  So I wait.

OK, CSI just sent me an email overnight;  they're sending me my order of None But Heroes, GMT's Infidel, and the ASL Starter Kit Expansion Pack #1.  Wooties.
Trifecta

I'm courious about the LoB system and how it stacks against GBACW system (ala Gleam of Bayonets.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2011, 05:46:10 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2011, 04:12:31 AM
My personal take is that the PC has become vastly superior to the tactical simulation of battles. Probably operational ones as well, but that's debatable due to the lack of computer content.

So for quite many years I have been concentrating on more strategic board games. The social aspect is there and the same (except better), and due to the lack of good strategical coverage of historical conflicts on PC, I don't feel like doing something I could do ten times easier on the computer.

It's not a complaint though or wanting to fling crap at your preferences, just a random outburst of personal opinion :)

I can see your point. I've been watching the "Birds of Prey" comments and threads. My preference is a computer air sim over a board air game as reflected in my comments about Air War and Air Superiority. I cringe when I think about setting up a scenario in Air War of 4 Nesher's vs. 10 Mig 21/Mig 17. I was good with the Air War rules rules in the day. IMO that game would take a concerted investment in time.   

Board Wargames had an allure to me years ago. After years on the bench so to speak, they do again, but in a more targeted way. Mainly tactical and operational. Strategic not so much. The artwork nowadays is head and shoulders above the 1980 era games IMO.

Not to say boardwargames will displace CM, TOAW III, or PC: Ostfront.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 21, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: Tamas on June 21, 2011, 04:12:31 AM
My personal take is that the PC has become vastly superior to the tactical simulation of battles. Probably operational ones as well, but that's debatable due to the lack of computer content.

On a certain level, I agree with you, but OTOH, I'd rather play Terrible Swift Sword or any other game in the GBACW series than any computer game on a ACW battle.  Though it can be argued that TSS is operational or "grand tactical" instead of tactical.

In practice, my computer gaming is mostly what I would describe as games that are strategy games but not wargames--EU, Civ, Heroes of Might and Magic, MOO, MOM, Colonization, etc.  I haven't played an actual computer wargame in years. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2011, 04:41:05 PM
Quote from: dps on June 21, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
I haven't played an actual computer wargame in years.

MatrixGames customers can say the same thing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 21, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
Oh no he didn't!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 22, 2011, 07:20:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2011, 04:41:05 PM
Quote from: dps on June 21, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
I haven't played an actual computer wargame in years.

MatrixGames customers can say the same thing.

oh snap  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 24, 2011, 04:00:01 PM
Did another partial update to my owned list on boardgame geek after going through some stuff I had boxed up.  A bunch more left to do. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 24, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: dps on June 24, 2011, 04:00:01 PM
Did another partial update to my owned list on boardgame geek after going through some stuff I had boxed up.  A bunch more left to do.

Nice

I just got the S&T order from Noble of; Battle of Monmouth, Wilson's Creek, Pleasant Hill, and Cedar Mountain.

Wellington's Vic and Ney v. Wellington should be here anytime.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on June 24, 2011, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 24, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: dps on June 24, 2011, 04:00:01 PM
Did another partial update to my owned list on boardgame geek after going through some stuff I had boxed up.  A bunch more left to do.

Nice

I just got the S&T order from Noble of; Battle of Monmouth, Wilson's Creek, Pleasant Hill, and Cedar Mountain.

Wellington's Vic and Ney v. Wellington should be here anytime.

There's a few of them in there that I had actually forgotten that I owned.  Mostly magazine games that came with the subscription and I've never even read the rules for, but I also somehow forgot that I had Wellington's Victory.  I haven't actually played it, either, and I frankly have no idea when or where I acquired it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 24, 2011, 09:07:20 PM
QuoteI haven't actually played it, either, and I frankly have no idea when or where I acquired it.

I love that line
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 25, 2011, 10:51:09 AM
I have vague recolections of this.  The pieces spraked something when I was looking for a civil war illistrated book.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2428/battle-cry
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time I let work interfere with Origins ever again. :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 27, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time I let work interfere with WBC ever again. :mad:

Look, you can use this one next month!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on June 28, 2011, 07:05:18 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 27, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time this year I let work interfere with WBC ever again. :mad:

Look, you can use this one next month!
He can use this one year after year.  :cool:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 28, 2011, 07:05:18 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 27, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time this year I let work interfere with WBC ever again. :mad:

Look, you can use this one next month!
He can use this one year after year.  :cool:

I hate having to work.  :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 28, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
I noticed Pazio bought out a regional distributor and is selling the old stuff they had. Mostly RPG stuff so far, but some wargames.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 29, 2011, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time I let work interfere with Origins ever again. :mad:

I'm thinking of going to Gen Con this year, just for shits and giggles.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 29, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 29, 2011, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time I let work interfere with Origins ever again. :mad:

I'm thinking of going to Gen Con this year, just for shits and giggles.

I only go for the exhibit hall, so I can drop $600 in about 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 29, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Played a face-to-face game of Labyrinth today.  I won by setting off a WMD in the USA.  Not sure how I feel about that.   :hmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 29, 2011, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 29, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Played a face-to-face game of Labyrinth today.  I won by setting off a WMD in the USA.  Not sure how I feel about that.   :hmm:

:lol: Think of it this way: Vince Lombardi would've done it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 29, 2011, 06:57:17 PM
Just imagine Tim was under the blast.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on June 30, 2011, 09:31:04 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 29, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Played a face-to-face game of Labyrinth today.  I won by setting off a WMD in the USA.  Not sure how I feel about that.   :hmm:

I think it is OK as long as no Pequots were harmed.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Razgovory on June 30, 2011, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 29, 2011, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
This is absofuckinglutely the last time I let work interfere with Origins ever again. :mad:

I'm thinking of going to Gen Con this year, just for shits and giggles.

Be warned, I was thinking of going as well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 04, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
I just wrote to coolstuffinc.com because they ship to everywhere in the world except Hungary (slovakia, slovenia, dutch antilles, wtf), and their prices and stocks (assuming they would indicate if a game is out of stock) is awesome.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: AnchorClanker on July 04, 2011, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
I see Decision is making another magazine with a game in it. This one on modern conflicts.

I should buy 10 issue ones and keep them in a cool dry place. they'll be a hundred bucks each on ebay in a year or so after release.

That reminds me of Command / XTR.  I miss it, although it appears most of that gang migrated to GMT.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2011, 05:24:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 04, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
I just wrote to coolstuffinc.com because they ship to everywhere in the world except Hungary (slovakia, slovenia, dutch antilles, wtf), and their prices and stocks (assuming they would indicate if a game is out of stock) is awesome.

You might be able to work out a deal with one of the posters here for postal services.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2011, 05:26:14 AM
Worthington Games is FINALLY shipping Victoria's Cross II.  Finally.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 05, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
I was looking for a game on the Franco-Prussian War so I picked up, Deathride: Mars-la-Tour 1870.

What's funny this is Ive never owned or played a game that's Area Impulse. This is a first.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2011, 05:24:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 04, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
I just wrote to coolstuffinc.com because they ship to everywhere in the world except Hungary (slovakia, slovenia, dutch antilles, wtf), and their prices and stocks (assuming they would indicate if a game is out of stock) is awesome.

You might be able to work out a deal with one of the posters here for postal services.

Nah, I wouldn't want to impose myself on you people.

BTW, I did get a reply from Coolstuffinc.com, they will ship stuff to me if I have a verified Paypal account, which I do. I just have to set Germany as country in their web form and then e-mail support.


Do you guys know this place? I am planning to do a BIG purchase now that I have this shorted out (their prices, even shipping, is sweet sweet sweet), and I would certainly not like to cash that pile of money out and then never see anything because they claimed they had it shipped to a German address.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 07, 2011, 02:04:50 AM
Make a small test purchase.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 02:18:52 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 07, 2011, 02:04:50 AM
Make a small test purchase.

Good idea of course, but accross-the-pond shipping costs don't scale particularly well. eg. 2 boxes, shipping cost: $60. 5 boxes, shipping cost: $74
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 02:51:22 AM
WTF SINCE WHEN DO I HAVE TO PAY 25% VAT ON THESE STUFF?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2011, 04:47:18 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2011, 05:24:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 04, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
I just wrote to coolstuffinc.com because they ship to everywhere in the world except Hungary (slovakia, slovenia, dutch antilles, wtf), and their prices and stocks (assuming they would indicate if a game is out of stock) is awesome.

You might be able to work out a deal with one of the posters here for postal services.

Nah, I wouldn't want to impose myself on you people.

BTW, I did get a reply from Coolstuffinc.com, they will ship stuff to me if I have a verified Paypal account, which I do. I just have to set Germany as country in their web form and then e-mail support.


Do you guys know this place? I am planning to do a BIG purchase now that I have this shorted out (their prices, even shipping, is sweet sweet sweet), and I would certainly not like to cash that pile of money out and then never see anything because they claimed they had it shipped to a German address.

I order from them all the time.  Don't know about overseas, but they're fast as shit here.

LOL, just checked my account; I've spend over $1,000 with them in the last year.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 04:55:55 AM
lol

ok thanks. I ditched the orders my friend would have liked to add - I told him I would rather risk only my own money first, but I mostly mean god damn VAT and tariffs.

I don't get the VAT thing. I dont recall paying that like, ever, for US orders. I will place an order just shy of a hundred bucks which will put me below the tariff barrier, here's hoping they'll forget VAT again as well :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2011, 05:04:49 AM
Tamas, if you wind up having any problems, let me know and I'll work something out with you regarding shipping.  It's no big deal to me.  I've got nothing else to do.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 07, 2011, 06:14:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2011, 05:04:49 AM
Tamas, if you wind up having any problems, let me know and I'll work something out with you regarding shipping.  It's no big deal to me.  I've got nothing else to do.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 10, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
Was browsing consimworld and was like WTF

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V9mpqUPRohc/TfUDd46kFqI/AAAAAAAAANU/5070btv-nW4/s640/P1020618.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_SuH_4hKxTc/TfUDkV8h6RI/AAAAAAAAANs/1W24Zd1DKh0/s640/P1020623.JPG)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 10, 2011, 03:42:57 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbadassbookreviews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F07%2Fholy_shit_a_shocking_face-s418x300-93419-580.jpg&hash=e3240c12236eea3ef9489b6e419f002d01e532ba)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:47:01 PM
Is that the old Jack Radey game? If so, I'll pray for the players.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 10, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:47:01 PM
Is that the old Jack Radey game? If so, I'll pray for the players.

Spot on. Korsun Pocket
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
I'm sure it'll take a week to do a turn. Berk would blow his stack playing that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 10, 2011, 04:11:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
I'm sure it'll take a week to do a turn. Berk would blow his stack playing that.

lol. The only game I remember playing on the Korsun debacle was the AGS Quad from SPI. Fast playable little game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: sbr on July 10, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 10, 2011, 03:42:57 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbadassbookreviews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F07%2Fholy_shit_a_shocking_face-s418x300-93419-580.jpg&hash=e3240c12236eea3ef9489b6e419f002d01e532ba)

:lol:  Love it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 10, 2011, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
I'm sure it'll take a week to do a turn. Berk would blow his stack playing that.

Berkut requires a turn every 20 minutes.  You think I'm kidding.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 10, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
Which is funny, because he's really been dragging ass in our HIS game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on July 10, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
It suddenly got a lot less interesting.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 10, 2011, 10:38:06 PM
Is that why you made your play before it was your turn?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on July 11, 2011, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 10, 2011, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
I'm sure it'll take a week to do a turn. Berk would blow his stack playing that.

Berkut requires a turn every 20 minutes.  You think I'm kidding.

Too bad he and I don't live near each other, then--he'd probably like my style of play.  I've done Fire in the East turns less than that.  Can't do the surprise turn that fast, but Europa games can play surprisingly quickly if you know the rules and have a solid plan for what you want to do.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on July 11, 2011, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 10, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:47:01 PM
Is that the old Jack Radey game? If so, I'll pray for the players.

Spot on. Korsun Pocket
I used to have that one.  The smaller scenarios were playable, but the larger ones... No only did you have massive counter density, but you moved supply (used by artillery only, IIRC), one supply point at a time.  Used to get ten-SP chits lost in stacks all the time.  :lol:

Great design, but not for that scale.  Black Sea, Black Death was a much better game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 11, 2011, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 11, 2011, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 10, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 10, 2011, 03:47:01 PM
Is that the old Jack Radey game? If so, I'll pray for the players.

Spot on. Korsun Pocket
I used to have that one.  The smaller scenarios were playable, but the larger ones... No only did you have massive counter density, but you moved supply (used by artillery only, IIRC), one supply point at a time.  Used to get ten-SP chits lost in stacks all the time.  :lol:

Great design, but not for that scale.  Black Sea, Black Death was a much better game.

The density looks rather excessive. I managed to pick up PWG Duel for Kharkov and Gazala for a descent price on a whim. I understand PRP has got a remake of PWG's Korsun in the works.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on July 12, 2011, 03:06:27 PM
Could the Northeastern Americans remind me again where - online or not - they buy their boardgames?

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 12, 2011, 03:09:58 PM
I've used:

Troll and Toad www.trollandtoad.com
NWS http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/
Bunker Hill (at least his ebay auctions) http://www.bunkerhillgames.com/index.php?UID=2011071213083075.186.147.38
Noble Knight www.nobleknight.com
Pazio http://paizo.com/store/games/cardBoardGames

I haven't been screwed by any of them.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on July 12, 2011, 03:06:27 PM
Could the Northeastern Americans remind me again where - online or not - they buy their boardgames?

Thanks.  :)

If I don't order them directly from the game companies themselves, I prefer www.coolstuffinc.com
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 15, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
Victoria's Cross II arrived today.  Finally.

I think I'll solo some of it out.  I'm in the mood for bayoneting negros for Her Majesty.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 21, 2011, 06:43:56 PM
Enjoying your sparring with CSW's biggest wet blanket, Seedy?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 21, 2011, 06:43:56 PM
Enjoying your sparring with CSW's biggest wet blanket, Seedy?

:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 21, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
That guy is almost as big a tool as "The Preacher."
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2011, 09:15:39 AM
I tread lightly on CSW.  Man, they're more sensitive than the Islamic boards.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2011, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
Newly ordered:

Compass- Proud Monster Deluxe(pre-order)

So it's out.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2011, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
Newly ordered:

Compass- Proud Monster Deluxe(pre-order)

So it's out.  Thoughts?

I've only opened the box and checked to see if everything is there. It does look nicer than the original Command Mag version.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 24, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Bought the Emerald Empire and Enemies Of The Empire books for Legend Of The 5 Rings 4th Ed. Very nice books, just like the rulebook. Lots of book for your buck, too bad I probably won't get to play the game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2011, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 24, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Bought the Emerald Empire and Enemies Of The Empire books for Legend Of The 5 Rings 4th Ed. Very nice books, just like the rulebook. Lots of book for your buck, too bad I probably won't get to play the game.

No, probably not;  but it makes for fun reading.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 26, 2011, 02:05:13 AM
I was on a buying spree recently (btw, coolstuffinc worked magnificently, by keeping just under a hundred bucks I avoided both tariff and VAT, yay!), and my funnest aquisition is a (yeah Berk, I know) solitaire space strategy: Struggle for the Galactic Empire:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic996940_md.jpg&hash=9c3e21b5854fb033534983865e49ecae96620d6c)


It is one of those games where the random events manage to present a narrative, and I often preferred the story aspect in games, so it is quite nice. But it is far from being devoid of any decision-making.

In it, you rule a galaxy-spanning empire, in various states of decline, depending on the scenario.Depending on how fucked up the internal situation (represented by a Chaos Index), you draw a number of events per turn. There is a lot of them. Mere rebellions, invaders, independent empires (also simpleton rebels can end up forming their own independent empires), various aliens (like Alien-ish killing machines, or V'ger-ish megaprobes, and the like), usurpers, the chance to install a WH40K-ish immortal cyber-emperor etc.

There are two types of combat: the actual "combat" and the political/psych/whatever conversion of the opponents. Obviously the cheapo units specialize in one, and can get easily wiped by the other combat if caught on the defensive, plus there is the Imperial Guard which is half-decent in both, plus the World Ships which are expensive like hell but are very nice (if slow) units.

Another interesting unit is the Transhumans, representing an evolution of humans. Their combat values depend on the chaos index and the side they are on.

And of course there are rules regulating the various types of chaos units but they are pretty straightforward, and they do fight each other if encountered, so as I said, while a lot of it is random, and the management is as macro as it can get, nice situations and narrative can appear.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 26, 2011, 02:10:53 AM
Did you play it yet? I own it but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 26, 2011, 02:34:02 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 26, 2011, 02:10:53 AM
Did you play it yet? I own it but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

yes! Took a couple of games to not forget any rules. Last time I won a long version of the first scenario (you start with much chaos but everything still under Empire control, and you only win if you retain control of every system and having the chaos index at or below 10), mostly by luck of events. Especially because once I had a very low chaos index, I drew the god-emperorish event (where you can install a WH40Kish immortal cyber-emperor), which halves chaos index changes.

Right now I am in a much more interesting session of the same scenario. I gradually decreased the chaos index (starts at 80, over 100 is game over), while an Independent Empire grew up in the Alpha Quadrant, with a big but totally combat-oriented fleet. I grew greedy and unleashed a Control Group (think badass Hansmeisters) army on them to convert that huge force to myself, but rolled horribly both for my attack, then the following regular combat defeat (the latter wasn't that hard, I merely had a couple of starfleets as escort), ending up with the majority of my entire armed forces totally wiped out. Chaos index rose big time, eliminating all my work.

But since then I have managed to defeat this local empire, and survived a general mutiny as I had no money reserves when the "troops demand pay" event came up. Have discovered the stargate tech in an expedition but seriously lack the money to build some. Etc.

Good game. :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 26, 2011, 02:44:55 AM
Nice. :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 26, 2011, 01:45:24 PM
Man, I love public records :

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2FRHBDecree.png&hash=831247ef15ed93e52a6571da26389dc9e71c934f)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 26, 2011, 04:47:40 PM
I assume a shitstorm is brewing at consimworld? I'll also assume the guy at GMT fondling underage girls is being brought up?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 26, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Nah, RHB came up and someone made a crack about his being disbarred.  So, I being myself, I asked if anyone had the story.  They linked me that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 27, 2011, 05:17:08 AM
Lot5R got me in an Asian mood. I ordered Ikusa (Shogun) and A Most Dangerous Time.

My money is going. I can feel it.

Edit: I never played Shogun back in the day btw.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 30, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Played Android today with 4 friends. Interesting game, quite unique.

I was playing the corrupt cop, in serious guilt over the death of my partner, for which the cause was me being away due to bribery, and trying to save his marriage, which was in a crisis for exactly the same thing. While I tried to subtly build up evidence against the guy I suspected for the game's murder case (and I did manage: the guys were so busy fighting over the other suspects they cancelled each others' evidences out and my guy was determined to be the perpetrator at the end, even if barely), I took good care of personal issues. First I managed to make my crime boss let me leave his side of the business, out of my guilt, then saved my marriage :goodboy:

I did not care much for the third aspect of the game, the puzzle game of figuring out the conspiracy behind the murder, but I did not need to. With the perpetrator being my hunch, and my personal triumphs, I won the game.

But, since it was a first for almost all of us, it took a long fucking time. Also in part because of all the possible options make this game hard to play with sufferers of Analysis Paralysis.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on July 30, 2011, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 26, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Nah, RHB came up and someone made a crack about his being disbarred.  So, I being myself, I asked if anyone had the story.  They linked me that.

What folder was that in?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 30, 2011, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 30, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Played Android today with 4 friends. Interesting game, quite unique.

I was playing the corrupt cop, in serious guilt over the death of my partner, for which the cause was me being away due to bribery, and trying to save his marriage, which was in a crisis for exactly the same thing. While I tried to subtly build up evidence against the guy I suspected for the game's murder case (and I did manage: the guys were so busy fighting over the other suspects they cancelled each others' evidences out and my guy was determined to be the perpetrator at the end, even if barely), I took good care of personal issues. First I managed to make my crime boss let me leave his side of the business, out of my guilt, then saved my marriage :goodboy:

I did not care much for the third aspect of the game, the puzzle game of figuring out the conspiracy behind the murder, but I did not need to. With the perpetrator being my hunch, and my personal triumphs, I won the game.

But, since it was a first for almost all of us, it took a long fucking time. Also in part because of all the possible options make this game hard to play with sufferers of Analysis Paralysis.

Own it, haven't played it yet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 30, 2011, 11:29:23 PM
At WBC now.  Already enjoyed one drama-queen session with some d-bag here.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on July 30, 2011, 11:31:52 PM
Tell me more, your fucking asshole. You know I cannot be there, the least you could do is come through with some juicy details.

More or less d-baggy than the TNW guy last year?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 30, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
Since I unfortunately don't know about the d-bag that you dealt with at TNW last year, I can only assume this is vastly worse.

Basically, Dockter ropes me and Burdett into playing, sight-and-rules-unseen, the 2nd edition of The Russian Civil War (the DG/S&T thing).  We get 7 people total together and settle down for The Rules Reading by Dockter so we get some basic idea of what the fuck is going on.

Anyway, one of the guys at the table (Marvin Birnbaum) gets up after the rules reading is over with and wanders off without a word.  Not having any clue what was going on, we decided to punish him for his transgressions by purging him from the Politburo in the game.  He gets back to find out that he's been kicked from the Politburo and, as a consequence, loses one of his minor units.

He might have a claim of being mad at this point, sure.  But we're all laughing, joking around with him about how we're going to purge him further, turn him over to the Cheka, etc.. So he leaves again without warning while we're puzzling over some rules issue or another.  When he comes back, we make the same joke about purging him and inform him that we went ahead and skipped him, even though skipping him doesn't really matter that much (instead of playing 1st, he plays 2nd). Guy flips the fuck out.  Starts cursing up a storm, getting pissed off while Burdett goes quiet, I look skeptical, Dockter and the others try to get him to calm down.  He doesn't.  Instead, he wanders off again after his petulant tirade saying he'll "be back."

Naturally, we purge him again in absentia.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on July 30, 2011, 11:45:49 PM
He didn't talk with a thick Austrian accent did he?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 30, 2011, 11:47:09 PM
Nein.  Just an annoying, Jew Yorker one.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 02, 2011, 11:48:23 PM
A Few Acres of Snow is better at using Dominion's mechanics than Dominion is.  A lot better.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
Reading on the CSW boards that Mark Herman's redux of VG's Pacific War is slated for playtesting in September with MMP.  Should be a lovely production.
Apparently, he's redoing the original map perspective, which I find unfortunate as I always thought it was probably the best, most accurate projection of the Pacific theater.

Hope he doesn't cock it all up.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: grumbler on August 08, 2011, 01:51:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
Apparently, he's redoing the original map perspective, which I find unfortunate as I always thought it was probably the best, most accurate projection of the Pacific theater.
Absolutely agree - terrific projection that really made some issues (like "WTF Aleutians?") much clearer.  I remember discussing this map with him at Origins when it was first published, and he was delighted with the way it turned out.  Wonder what changed?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2011, 05:31:49 AM
Apparently not to sweat it, g:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_adhGnEaFxrA%2FSfH-8lJd7YI%2FAAAAAAAAAPc%2FPCyYFhd1i7o%2Fs400%2FEAP%2BHD.jpg&hash=16c7605d599dbb891738918dcda6a48d17cc1730)
QuoteYou will be pleased then to hear that this is precisely what it is, this will serve as the basis for the redux of "Pacific War" that Mark Herman is currently working on.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2011, 05:49:08 AM
Lulz, Richard Berg catching shit for using the term "Teabaggers" on CSW.

I'm starting to appreciate the Berg more.  Is resistance: futile?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on August 20, 2011, 05:30:26 PM
Played Android for the first time. Didn't finish it today but we'll continue later. We like it, it's certainly a bit different from most other games we play.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 20, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
In the mail: Habs did me a big favor, and scored a copy of Armies of Oblivion for me at WBC.  And one for himself.

Anybody going to get anything new in the very near future?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on August 20, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
I am planning a game of SPQR with someone I met through work. Work actually being useful? That's something new.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 20, 2011, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 20, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
I am planning a game of SPQR with someone I met through work. Work actually being useful? That's something new.

The gamers at work are all RPG/Fantasytards.  Not that I don't mind throwing in with a Warhammer 40K night now and then, but there ain't a fucking panzerpusher in the bunch.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 20, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 20, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
I am planning a game of SPQR with someone I met through work. Work actually being useful? That's something new.

That's pretty awesome.  Looking forward to hearing how that goes.  I've always wanted to give the system a try, but it has Berg's name on it...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 20, 2011, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 20, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
In the mail: Habs did me a big favor, and scored a copy of Armies of Oblivion for me at WBC.  And one for himself.

$$$  Scoring that at the price I did will pay for about 1/3 of my WBC expenses.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 20, 2011, 10:45:36 PM
As for new stuff, I am definitely ordering A Few Acres of Snow when I find a cheaper copy.  Game's a lot of fun and on a rather esoteric topic :

http://www.treefroggames.com/a-few-acres-of-snow-2
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Esoteric ?!?!  :ultra:

Seriously, as I am contractually obliged to purchase and play games taking place in New France (okay, this bit is not so serious), I am glad this one is good.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 21, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Esoteric ?!?!  :ultra:

You're right, I forgot about the plethora of games focused on North American settlement and the conflict between France and England over it.  Such as...uh...

...

:P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PRC on August 21, 2011, 11:08:14 PM
It's a Martin Wallace game, i haven't played this one in particular but i'm a big fan of his games.  They're Euro style i'd say but the best of the genre.  Brass is just amazing, never had a bad play of it.  Automobile is very good and so is the "Last Train to Wensleydale". 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 11:59:20 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 21, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Esoteric ?!?!  :ultra:

You're right, I forgot about the plethora of games focused on North American settlement and the conflict between France and England over it.  Such as...uh...

...

:P

I was more expressing surprise to see the French and Indian War described as an esoteric topic... But you are right: when every drunken bar fight of WWII gets made into its own wargame, and the History Chanel is running a 12-hour marathon over the "Secret Imaginary Weapons of the Nazis" any other conflict is bound to appear "esoteric"...  :P

(But, as for the gaming world, there are at least GMT's Wilderness War and Columbia Games' Quebec 1759 on the topic).

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 22, 2011, 01:13:25 AM
Yeah, but the game isn't just the Seven Years War, which is why I called it esoteric.  Wilderness War is a fine game, but much more traditional in terms of topic than A Few Acres.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2011, 05:34:23 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 11:59:20 PMI was more expressing surprise to see the French and Indian War described as an esoteric topic... But you are right: when every drunken bar fight of WWII gets made into its own wargame, and the History Chanel is running a 12-hour marathon over the "Secret Imaginary Weapons of the Nazis" any other conflict is bound to appear "esoteric"...  :P

(But, as for the gaming world, there are at least GMT's Wilderness War and Columbia Games' Quebec 1759 on the topic).

I've definitely seen a resurgence in interest in colonial North America--Worthington Games' Clash For a Continent and the F&IW module for their Hold the Line system has been very popular, as has GMT's King Philip's War (OK, no French but lotsa Indians).  Empires in America is reviewed on CSW's first page this weekend, and Academy is coming out with a Birth of America series, so the interest has still been there.

I'd say that, as far as specific topics go with conflicts that don't involve The Big Four (Napoleonic/ACW/WWI/WWII), only the Spanish Civil War has probably seen more productions in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on August 22, 2011, 06:29:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2011, 05:34:23 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 21, 2011, 11:59:20 PMI was more expressing surprise to see the French and Indian War described as an esoteric topic... But you are right: when every drunken bar fight of WWII gets made into its own wargame, and the History Chanel is running a 12-hour marathon over the "Secret Imaginary Weapons of the Nazis" any other conflict is bound to appear "esoteric"...  :P

(But, as for the gaming world, there are at least GMT's Wilderness War and Columbia Games' Quebec 1759 on the topic).

I've definitely seen a resurgence in interest in colonial North America--Worthington Games' Clash For a Continent and the F&IW module for their Hold the Line system has been very popular, as has GMT's King Philip's War (OK, no French but lotsa Indians).  Empires in America is reviewed on CSW's first page this weekend, and Academy is coming out with a Birth of America series, so the interest has still been there.

I'd say that, as far as specific topics go with conflicts that don't involve The Big Four (Napoleonic/ACW/WWI/WWII), only the Spanish Civil War has probably seen more productions in the last couple of years.

It's funny, but not long ago, when it comes to wargaming, nobody would have put WWI in "The Big Four".  Its place would have been taken by games on hypothetical contemporary/near contemporary topics, a subject we don't see covered much anymore.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
Quote from: dps on August 22, 2011, 06:29:42 AM
It's funny, but not long ago, when it comes to wargaming, nobody would have put WWI in "The Big Four".

Paths of Glory changed all that. 


QuoteIts place would have been taken by games on hypothetical contemporary/near contemporary topics, a subject we don't see covered much anymore.

Died roughly the same time as the Cold War.  Contemporary conflicts with competitive opposing sides are few and far between.  Gaming Gulf War 1: Roll 1d6, 1-6 Result = US Strategic Victory

But, some revisionist stuff has been popping up again, if only for nostaglic "What Ifs".
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 22, 2011, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2011, 07:23:53 AM

QuoteIts place would have been taken by games on hypothetical contemporary/near contemporary topics, a subject we don't see covered much anymore.

Died roughly the same time as the Cold War.  Contemporary conflicts with competitive opposing sides are few and far between.  Gaming Gulf War 1: Roll 1d6, 1-6 Result = US Strategic Victory

But, some revisionist stuff has been popping up again, if only for nostaglic "What Ifs".
Aint that the truth. I pretty much have no more interest in Nato v. WP games. Not even in TOAW
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on August 22, 2011, 02:17:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
Quote from: dps on August 22, 2011, 06:29:42 AM
It's funny, but not long ago, when it comes to wargaming, nobody would have put WWI in "The Big Four.  Its place would have been taken by games on hypothetical contemporary/near contemporary topics, a subject we don't see covered much anymore.

Died roughly the same time as the Cold War.  

Yeah, for once we see a clear reason why there was a change in what's popular.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 22, 2011, 10:42:51 PM
On a whim and with a recommendation from a friend, I'm picking up GMT's Sekigahara.  Looks neat and is certainly not your average block game.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25021/sekigahara-unification-of-japan

On a related note, I think I may end up being the developer for Combat Patrol.  We'll see how that comes along, though...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 28, 2011, 09:24:26 AM
nice article:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/27/cardboard-children-heroquest/#more-71387
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 05, 2011, 09:30:12 PM
A Few Acres of Snow is definitely the current hotness for me.  Playing 8 games back to back yesterday with different results in each one (well, okay, aside from the fact that I won 7/8 games), I didn't notice any single strategy to be overpowered. 

The game can easily develop into a peaceful build-up, which I've seen happen amongst other games and had happen twice to me, but I suspect that's a losing proposition for the British.  The real trick seems to be when and where to prepare for raiding and sieges of enemy stuff to throw a wrench in their development.  Subtle differences between the decks (French and English each have a Rangers/Coureurs de Bois card, yet only the British one costs anything to get, for example) make for pretty interesting options.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2011, 04:32:41 AM
That definitely sounds interesting Habs.  If it's the kind of card management game like Hell of Stalingrad, where you can play 4-5 drops in an evening, I can get with that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 12, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
Stickering blocks for Sekigahara from GMT right now.  Game seems neat and the rules are very short.  Lots of good reviews pouring out, too.  Probably going to get a game in of it this weekend.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on September 14, 2011, 11:35:01 PM
Hey, CdM, check it out.  I got the maps for Total War in the mail earlier this week.  They offered an extra set of unfolded maps in addition to the folded ones that will be in the game box.  The maps came back from the printers (some of the other components aren't yet), so they went ahead and sent the unfolded maps.

I was going to take a pic and post it here, but I've misplaced my digital camera, and I tried to take a polariod  and scan it, and the dang isn't working.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 15, 2011, 04:35:45 AM
I've been keeping an eye on their developments over at CSW;  somebody took a pic of them all put out.  I'll believe the existence of the rest of the product when I see it.

Good to see independent verification from a trusted source, though.  ;)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on October 21, 2011, 04:12:52 PM
Played Betrayal At House On The Hill. We had a blast. Simple basic rules with 50 different scenarios.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 01, 2011, 03:17:21 PM
GMT is doing its annual November sale.

I'd mention Avalanche's too, but nobody else here likes them.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 01, 2011, 03:28:54 PM
IIRC I have got Labyrinth from a P500 pre-order so I am eligible for two(2) 50% discounts.

What 2 games should be it?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 01, 2011, 04:01:17 PM
Sadly, the only new GMT game I've gotten to try is Infidel, and both games were prematurely aborted.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 01, 2011, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 01, 2011, 03:17:21 PM
I'd mention Avalanche's too, but nobody else here likes them.  :P

Not only do they make bad games, but they're crooks, too.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 04, 2011, 06:34:30 PM
If you're at all interested in Southern folklore and shit check out Hoodoo Blues, an RPG available (pdf) for 5 bucks. Pretty damn nice.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=80520
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: bogh on November 04, 2011, 06:44:27 PM
I brought back Android, Blockade Runner and Pitch Car from Spiel in Essen.

Oh, and also Eclipse, which after one play seems to be absolutely amazing. The rules click very elegantly and the epic feeling is definitely there. Very happy that I managed to snatch up a copy by when the unclaimed pre-orders were released...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 04, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
Eclipse looks interesting. What was your playing time?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 05, 2011, 03:06:07 AM
I have just used my 50% GMT discount to order Spanish Civil War, and No Retreat.  :cool:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: bogh on November 05, 2011, 05:49:38 AM
Quote from: The Brain on November 04, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
Eclipse looks interesting. What was your playing time?

Three man game about 3.5 hours - plus 30 minutes of rules explanation. I'd say that 2 hours for a three man game is probably  realistic.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 05, 2011, 05:54:51 AM
Quote from: bogh on November 05, 2011, 05:49:38 AM
Quote from: The Brain on November 04, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
Eclipse looks interesting. What was your playing time?

Three man game about 3.5 hours - plus 30 minutes of rules explanation. I'd say that 2 hours for a three man game is probably  realistic.

Interesting.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: bogh on November 05, 2011, 06:45:58 AM
Looks like I'll have a four or give man game tonite. Will report back...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on November 05, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
I've just broken down and gifted myself

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.homestead.com%2FFlyingFrogProductions%2Fcatalog%2FFFP0501_FortuneAndGlory.jpg&hash=0aa8c0994cae7482a2b885dc7fb5c1be25d6e0b5)

After RPS sold me on it (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/08/cardboard-children-fortune-glory/).

:blush:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on November 06, 2011, 07:45:36 AM
Another interesting boardgame over at RPS.
STAR TREK: FLEET CAPTAINS (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/06/cardboard-children-fleet-captains/)

QuoteIn a nutshell, Fleet captains is an adventure game. You assume, by looking at it, that it's a space combat game of some kind. But it really isn't. It's a space exploration game, with the occasional fight, and that's the first big tick in the "Does this feel like Star Trek?" box. I've never understood why so many Star Trek computer and board games of the past have put a focus on space combat. There's hardly any space combat in any of the shows. This game gets the balance just right. You can play a game of this and never fire one photon torpedo. That is how it should be.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 06, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
QuoteYou can play a game of this and never fire one photon torpedo. That is how it should be.

gay.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on November 06, 2011, 10:44:43 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 05, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
I've just broken down and gifted myself

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.homestead.com%2FFlyingFrogProductions%2Fcatalog%2FFFP0501_FortuneAndGlory.jpg&hash=0aa8c0994cae7482a2b885dc7fb5c1be25d6e0b5)

After RPS sold me on it (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/08/cardboard-children-fortune-glory/).

:blush:

I played a playtest of this over a year back.  I was unimpressed at the time, but my understanding is that they've majorly revamped it.  Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 06, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 06, 2011, 07:45:36 AM
Another interesting boardgame over at RPS.
STAR TREK: FLEET CAPTAINS (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/06/cardboard-children-fleet-captains/)

QuoteIn a nutshell, Fleet captains is an adventure game. You assume, by looking at it, that it's a space combat game of some kind. But it really isn't. It's a space exploration game, with the occasional fight, and that's the first big tick in the "Does this feel like Star Trek?" box. I've never understood why so many Star Trek computer and board games of the past have put a focus on space combat. There's hardly any space combat in any of the shows. This game gets the balance just right. You can play a game of this and never fire one photon torpedo. That is how it should be.


:mmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on November 07, 2011, 01:52:33 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 06, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
QuoteYou can play a game of this and never fire one photon torpedo. That is how it should be.

gay.

The gay version of SFB by the sound of it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 07, 2011, 02:54:49 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 07, 2011, 01:52:33 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 06, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
QuoteYou can play a game of this and never fire one photon torpedo. That is how it should be.

gay.

The gay version of SFB by the sound of it.

If you read it: no.

I have ordered it in my enthusiasm: it is an adventure game, exploring a random map and doing missions and solving encounters and stuff. One of the reviewers made a perfectly valid point here: why star trek games of the past focused exclusively on combat? You had like one proper space duel every dozen episodes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 07, 2011, 04:27:18 AM
I have been browsing a blog-ish thing on the 'geek about iOS and Android board game conversions.

I just can't see how long I can go on without pissing money away on an ipad. Oh, the humiliation. :weep:

When is the ipad 3 coming?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 07, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 07, 2011, 04:27:18 AM
I have been browsing a blog-ish thing on the 'geek about iOS and Android board game conversions.

I just can't see how long I can go on without pissing money away on an ipad. Oh, the humiliation. :weep:

When is the ipad 3 coming?

ipad 2 came out in the spring, so I bet they'll do a #3 in the spring next year.

Also, IIRC, Apple had a 10% off sale on Black Friday. Or Cyber Monday. so that'll save you 50 bucks or so.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 07, 2011, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 07, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 07, 2011, 04:27:18 AM
I have been browsing a blog-ish thing on the 'geek about iOS and Android board game conversions.

I just can't see how long I can go on without pissing money away on an ipad. Oh, the humiliation. :weep:

When is the ipad 3 coming?

ipad 2 came out in the spring, so I bet they'll do a #3 in the spring next year.

Also, IIRC, Apple had a 10% off sale on Black Friday. Or Cyber Monday. so that'll save you 50 bucks or so.

Fag.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 10, 2011, 04:52:11 PM
Got that Star Trek game.

Oozes with theme indeed, and I can't wait to get a game of it.

But the components... they LOOK awesome, but the paper quality is quite low, it bothers me most regarding the tiles which should be more thicker. The cards aren't perfect either but they are okay.

The click-whatever mechanic in the ship bases though :bleeding: Apparently I have got a chinaman on acid assembling mine because I have found 3 models where I had to take them apart and fix them via knife, and I have only checked like a quarter of them.

It's a shame because the game appears to be great and just screams for expansions. But I am not paying a shitload of money to then spend time on fixing what some yellow assembly line worker fucked up. :ultra:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 11, 2011, 03:17:14 AM
Did a quick solitaire test of Fleet Captains (there are no solo rules, I just had to do the grognardy mind-split technique)

Not only the ships drawn supported the classic "Federation explores, Klingons fight" setup, the most badass fighter on the Federation side was Voyager, with the old Enterprise as close second, plus two other frigate-like thingies, and for the Klingons I drew a big battleship. Plus a sort of medium one, and a scout vessel.

Since I was wary of storming into unexplored space with my Klingon warships, the Federation had time to scan some sectors, extend it's influence to 8 sectors, and in the process gather most of their ships in an effort to stop a moon collapsing into one of the habitable planets they discovered, gaining a healthy lead in VPs. All the while the Klingon scout ship ran into a temporal discplacement, returning to the starting zone, and the medium ship got some water-whatever happening to them, intoxicating the crew, but they quickly managed to regain proper control.

A bit later, one of the Federation ships had an encounter with the mirror universe, causing the Federation and Klingon hands to be exchanged with each other. Also, their most scouty scout ship ran into the envoys of this pacifist race which name I forgot, and since the Federation had combat cards in their hand, the scout had to retreat to the starting zone.

And that lead to the most Klingon moment of the game. As the Federation frigate started to explore the half of the map which had been ignored 'til that point, the big Klingon ship cloaked, and had enough engine powers, and an explored patch of space ahead of it, to storm the frigate at half the map's distance, uncloak, and just brutally rape the small ship.
The Enterprise fought the the medium Klingon ship to a draw but got into yellow alert (light damage). The Voyager stormed to the rescue and shot down the Klingon ship to red alert (major damage), and this escalated into a big battle, as the Klingon main battleship arrived to the scene, and combining with the remaining firepower of it's smaller comrade destroyed Voyager.
All these victories helped the Klingons to work toward their secret missions, but not fast enough.

While this lasted, the 4th Federation ship, the Excelsior IIRC, flew into Klingon-explored space to place and retrieve an away team to a Klingon-controlled habitable planet, for an intelligence mission they had.
As their comrades tangled with the Klingons, the Excelsior flew back into Federation space, and created an Outpost in one of their planets, then upgrading it to a Colony, thus scoring two more missions and winning the match.

This game has what I often value most in a game: narrative
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on November 15, 2011, 09:36:18 AM
Quote from: frunk on November 06, 2011, 10:44:43 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 05, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
I've just broken down and gifted myself

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.homestead.com%2FFlyingFrogProductions%2Fcatalog%2FFFP0501_FortuneAndGlory.jpg&hash=0aa8c0994cae7482a2b885dc7fb5c1be25d6e0b5)

After RPS sold me on it (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/08/cardboard-children-fortune-glory/).

:blush:

I played a playtest of this over a year back.  I was unimpressed at the time, but my understanding is that they've majorly revamped it.  Let me know what you think.

Was delivered yesterday. The production values are nice, ut I was expecting that - I already have Flying Frog's Last Night On Earth.

Where LNoE is rather fast paced, this seems, at first glance a bit more cumbersome. Actually, the manual warns that with mroe than 4 players the game becomes rather slow - I guess downtime for other players seems the biggest issue. We're three people who normally play such games, so that should be fine.

My initial fear is that while there are quite a few cards, the variety in the various stacks (Gear, General Items, Enemies, etc.) seems a bit limited at first glance, and it remains to be seen how quickly they become repetitive. I guess I will run a few playtests this weekend of the game modes. Competitive has heroes competing to amass fortune and glory while thwarting their opponents and evading villains (crime syndicate or Nazi Germans). Cooperative (and solo) mode have the heroes trying to stop the Nazis/Criminals from obtaining artifacts and ruling the world.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 16, 2011, 07:23:15 AM
Slowly catching back up with my hoarding, waiting for the big brown truck to drop off For King and Country and Guderian's Blitzkrieg II.

Did anybody pre-order Where Eagles Dare and receive it yet?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 17, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
Just wanted to say, that a couple of weeks ago I introduced the gaming group I met in the city I work at to Republic of Rome. The new edition which I bought on excuse of this introduction (had the AH one since many years). It was so successful that our regular host in the city has bought a copy of his own and we will play again this weekend.
I am so happy  :cry:



One more step from euro-candyland to proper boardgaming! :menace:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
I have two questions:

1) Price of Freedom, the strategic ACW game from Compass is on holiday sale. It appears to be well received, but since this forum is full of ACW nerds, I thought I ask for your opinion.
2) If it is decent, do any of you poor bastards desperate enough for a copy of For the People to pay shipping cost from out of Hungary? :P
I haven't touched that game for years, ever since my first PBEM game, where a guy as the North did some trickery with putting a single unit in like every square of his. I can't recall what this was for, but I knew it looked fucking fugly and completely disillusioned me in the game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
1) Well-received by who?  Certainly not wargamers.

2) You're dissatisfied with FtP but want to get PoF?  Lulz.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
If you want an ACW game that is actually fun and historical, I would recommend GMT's Blue vs. Grey.  The only trouble with it is that it's pretty much nothing but a hassle to PBEM it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
1) Well-received by who?  Certainly not wargamers.

2) You're dissatisfied with FtP but want to get PoF?  Lulz.

Well I skimmed the reviews on the geek. I don't mind abstraction and such, with a 3 hours or so playtime I could actually get a face to face opponent every once in a while
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
1) Well-received by who?  Certainly not wargamers.

:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
1) Well-received by who?  Certainly not wargamers.

:lol:

Ok so now that the two of you had a nice good view off your high horses, let's step down a bit and make clear that counter density does necessarily raises the quality of a game. My question was not about "does this cover the rationing regulations of the Army of Potomac adequately" but rather: does it succeed at what it wants to do, which appears to be a strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?
IF you don't know, then you don't know.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 04:53:03 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
does it succeed at...strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?

No.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
does it succeed at what it wants to do, which appears to be a strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?

Which is more important for you?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 04, 2011, 05:14:03 PM
Another game that is just downright awesome is GMT's Sekigahara.  It's about a civil war...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
does it succeed at what it wants to do, which appears to be a strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?

Which is more important for you?

Good question. :) Proper strategic coverage, normally, but again, if it is playable in an evening, I run a decent chance of actually playing it some time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
does it succeed at what it wants to do, which appears to be a strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?

Which is more important for you?

Good question. :) Proper strategic coverage, normally, but again, if it is playable in an evening, I run a decent chance of actually playing it some time.

Then go for it.  It's wholly digestible in a decently planned evening.
Just don't expect the same kind of replayability over time like other CDGs.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 05, 2011, 01:36:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 04, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 04, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
does it succeed at what it wants to do, which appears to be a strategic coverage of the conflict in an amount of time which is okay for people with a life?

Which is more important for you?

Good question. :) Proper strategic coverage, normally, but again, if it is playable in an evening, I run a decent chance of actually playing it some time.

Then go for it.  It's wholly digestible in a decently planned evening.
Just don't expect the same kind of replayability over time like other CDGs.

Thanks! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on December 05, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
CDG :yuk:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 05, 2011, 11:35:19 AM
Getting ready to jump into the fray myself.  After some friends finally grabbed me for a gaming night the other night, I'm about ready to get my own copy of Arkham Horror.  I see a lot of expansions for it- would you guys recommend any of them?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on December 05, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 05, 2011, 11:35:19 AM
Getting ready to jump into the fray myself.  After some friends finally grabbed me for a gaming night the other night, I'm about ready to get my own copy of Arkham Horror.  I see a lot of expansions for it- would you guys recommend any of them?

Not until you've played the basic game a while. I think the expansions work to keep the game fresh if you play it a lot but it's not like they are necessary to enjoy it. And it gets messy with a couple of expansions with a million cards, extra boards, a handful of rules booklets etc.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 12, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
One of the games I bought on 50% discount from GMT was their version of No Retreat.

Good. Purchase.

Mounted board, nice big counters, very low counter density, easy rules but a LOT of way for operational and strategic trickery through the rules and the cards which are not CDG-ish, just cover events, almost all of them are held in hand to fuck your opponent's plans up.
Not to mention the cool victory rules which appear to make an excellent effort, possibly even succeed, of translating the entire eastern war into a GAME in terms of balance at chances of victory throughout the years. And that while keeping the theme and the general historic flow.

I haven't checked if a PBEM module is available, but I would sure love to PBEM it. I just love it based on my test play.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 12, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
Yeah, I played it once and was very impressed. I know there is Vassal out there for it, but no CB.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 12, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
Spoke to soon - GMT has a CB gamebox up on their site for it now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 12, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Managed to sell my old, first edition copy of Twilight Struggle for enough to cover the purchase of the newest edition.

lol : Poles.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 12, 2011, 12:20:36 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 12, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
Spoke to soon - GMT has a CB gamebox up on their site for it now.

:perv:


I don't want to overcommit again, did that too much recently, but my finish-off-the-year-in-a-blaze-of-laziness holiday starts at the end of this week, would love a game of it from, say, Sunday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 12, 2011, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Managed to sell my old, first edition copy of Twilight Struggle for enough to cover the purchase of the newest edition.

lol : Poles.

wow
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on December 12, 2011, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Managed to sell my old, first edition copy of Twilight Struggle for enough to cover the purchase of the newest edition.

lol : Poles.

Did you check if your copy was one of the rare valuable misprints?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 15, 2011, 03:56:46 AM
Uh-oh Seedy

QuoteHow does DRK - LAH; DRK - DR; DRK - T sound to you?  They sound good to us!  We have finally figured out how to put these in the Death Ride format.  Don't look for them any time soon, but we're workin' on 'em.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 15, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
That would be awesome.

One day, we could have a counter for every company that ever served in the German military.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Lucidor on December 16, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 12, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
Managed to sell my old, first edition copy of Twilight Struggle for enough to cover the purchase of the newest edition.

lol : Poles.
I got that one two weeks ago. So far 3 games, 2 against a friend and 1 against my girlfriend (who wants to play more). The wording on the "We will bury you" is harder to understand than the original, but the map is mounted on delicious 3-4 mm cardboard. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 16, 2011, 11:50:23 AM
I am definitely happy with my upgrade, to be sure.  I will miss "Chili" though.

What did you find confusing about WWBY?  Seems pretty straightforward to me, though I don't recall the old text.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Lucidor on December 17, 2011, 04:17:31 AM
I read it as the USSR gets point before any scoring from the US player that turn. Holding two scoring cards in my own hand at the time I got it played at me, I had to go check the FAQ.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 20, 2011, 05:02:13 PM
Tales from CSW :

QuoteBerg needed a name for an ADC for a general in his Shiloh Game for SPI, Bloody April. He couldn't find the historical name, so he named the guy after his analyst in NYC at the time Dr. Loutsch.

Lo and behold, FGA does a shiloh game, and not only is Dr. Loutsch in the game, but he's been promoted to brigade command.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 20, 2011, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 20, 2011, 05:02:13 PM
Tales from CSW :

QuoteBerg needed a name for an ADC for a general in his Shiloh Game for SPI, Bloody April. He couldn't find the historical name, so he named the guy after his analyst in NYC at the time Dr. Loutsch.

Lo and behold, FGA does a shiloh game, and not only is Dr. Loutsch in the game, but he's been promoted to brigade command.


Sounds like standard FGA procedures to me.  lol
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End. Also ordered Kursk II - The Southern Pincer. Couldnt find the one cover the north sector.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 22, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End.

:)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 24, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 22, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End.

:)

I was reading the designer notes (Ive had the pdf copy of the rules for awhile) and he considered Operation Frühlingserwachen first. Decided against it and I agree. The Konrad offensives were more dramatic.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 24, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 24, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 22, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End.

:)

I was reading the designer notes (Ive had the pdf copy of the rules for awhile) and he considered Operation Frühlingserwachen first. Decided against it and I agree. The Konrad offensives were more dramatic.

As far as I can tell, most of my grandparents' stories come from the Konrad timeline, as they were caught by the middle of it, as civilians. (IIRC you can find the village of "Zamoly" on the map, which is were my mother comes from. It was more or less completely destroyed during this time, changing hands like a dozen times)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 24, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
http://shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EXC7704

:)

and other stuff.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 24, 2011, 06:29:17 PM
You and your Decision Games fetish.

You get the Dai Senso/Totaler Krieg reduxs?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 24, 2011, 06:37:35 PM
It is a Ty Bomba fetish.

And yes. They look nice(except for the freaky map with the extra fold in Dai). I might even get to play them next year.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 24, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Also got GMT's Battle of Normandy. 5 maps? I better see latrine battalions on the map.

Me likey NWS.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 24, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 24, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Also got GMT's Battle of Normandy. 5 maps? I better see latrine battalions on the map.

Awesome system.  Wait till the Battle of Sicily comes out.  Three player option, with the US and UK racing for points.  Patton versus Monty versus Bob Guccione.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 24, 2011, 06:57:54 PM
QuotePatton versus Monty versus Bob Guccione.

:XD:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 24, 2011, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 24, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 24, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 22, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End.

:)

I was reading the designer notes (Ive had the pdf copy of the rules for awhile) and he considered Operation Frühlingserwachen first. Decided against it and I agree. The Konrad offensives were more dramatic.

As far as I can tell, most of my grandparents' stories come from the Konrad timeline, as they were caught by the middle of it, as civilians. (IIRC you can find the village of "Zamoly" on the map, which is were my mother comes from. It was more or less completely destroyed during this time, changing hands like a dozen times)
Interesting story Tamas, thanks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 26, 2011, 12:56:11 AM
This is laziness of the designer.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic147882_lg.jpg&hash=d4f568f9fd45f64d225ded42a370bb30118de2da)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic722828_lg.jpg&hash=9939114c891f18e311cfc0d1063d8bb658379018)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 26, 2011, 08:38:01 AM
Oh no, the nefarious white-on-black SS counters!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 26, 2011, 08:52:11 AM
Whoever picked the white on light blue color needs an asswhoopin'.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 26, 2011, 01:59:32 PM
I'm really hoping that his scanner introduced a good bit of distortion to the countersheets, because otherwise, some of those are barely legible.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 26, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
The counters in my copy were perfectly legible.  Except the ugly white on blue ones.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 26, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
Tamas, you still want to give No Retreat a try?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 26, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 26, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
Tamas, you still want to give No Retreat a try?

Sure.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 26, 2011, 04:47:38 PM
I guess it has no ACTS-y thingie?
Do you want to test the CB module with one of the scenarios, or jump straight into the campaign? If the latter, I would prefer the Soviets, so feel free to create a game and send it to me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 26, 2011, 05:19:18 PM
Campaign is fine, will get it together.

To bad they don't have a CB app for the kindle fire...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 26, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 26, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
The counters in my copy were perfectly legible.  Except the ugly white on blue ones.

That's the scan off BGG.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 26, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
Anywho, got the Alea Mag's Kursk the Southern Pincer. Open up the mag and looked at the map. Not bad. Said to myself, "Where the fuck are the counters".  They are there, I guess. What the fuck do I have to color copy them and glue the fucking things to cardboard or something. Ghetto ass Spainards. What a bunch of cheap fucks.

Dont get me started on the German OOB. For a game that was made in 2009...no excuse. Those lazy fucking Asshats. I'd like to roll it up and beat the retard Spainards about the head and shoulders.

Fucking fucks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 05:22:28 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 26, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
The counters in my copy were perfectly legible.  Except the ugly white on blue ones.

Probably those faggoty ass Luftwaffe
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 05:31:26 AM
Now this OOB looks pretty tight. They could have picked better colors for the Krauts. SS-Totenkopf looks like they should be marching in a gay pride parade.

This is a different game than that Spainish made cluster fuck.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic770314_lg.jpg&hash=bae5bca6118e5500de7fa63e8624bd9d5c83f1ae)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
Haven't seen that many colors since AH's Anzio.  Or a pack of Skittles.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 08:53:10 AM
Uh-oh. I see SS runes. The panties in a bunch crowd at CSW won't like that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 08:53:10 AM
Uh-oh. I see SS runes. The panties in a bunch crowd at CSW won't like that.
A bunch of PC hippies.

Already see a mistake on the GT sheet, 375th Guards Div. It was 375th Rifle Div.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 08:53:10 AM
Uh-oh. I see SS runes. The panties in a bunch crowd at CSW won't like that.
A bunch of PC hippies.



http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.ee6e862/0

enjoy!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.ee6e862/0
enjoy!

Oughta check out the last few pages of COA's main folder;  "Triumph of Chaos" designer is getting some shit from the PC crowd over "Triumph of Fascism", because "fascism" isn't a nice term.

I'm the one hoping it's a "Triumph of Editing".
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.ee6e862/0
enjoy!

Oughta check out the last few pages of COA's main folder;  "Triumph of Chaos" designer is getting some shit from the PC crowd over "Triumph of Fascism", because "fascism" isn't a nice term.

I'm the one hoping it's a "Triumph of Editing".
:pinch: I'd be banned in record time.

Anyhow started a review for "Guards Tank" on my BGG collection page.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.ee6e862/0
enjoy!

Oughta check out the last few pages of COA's main folder;  "Triumph of Chaos" designer is getting some shit from the PC crowd over "Triumph of Fascism", because "fascism" isn't a nice term.

I'm the one hoping it's a "Triumph of Editing".

*looks*

What a bunch of faggits.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 12:21:47 PM
That is the most annoying/best avatar yet, Mr Anger.  :cheers:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
That is my normal face when surfing the internet.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
SON OF A BITCH. Cool Stuff Inc has the new TK game for 60 bucks. Cocksuckers.

For the OCS fan, they have Gurderian's Blitzkrieg II for 82.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 27, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
Haven't seen that many colors since AH's Anzio.  Or a pack of Skittles.

Dude, you own Europa titles.  I only see 7 different colors on that countersheet.  In Europa, the Germans and the Soviets each get more color schemes than that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: dps on December 27, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
Haven't seen that many colors since AH's Anzio.  Or a pack of Skittles.

Dude, you own Europa titles.  I only see 7 different colors on that countersheet.  In Europa, the Germans and the Soviets each get more color schemes than that.

Yes, but see, in Europa, you still have shades.  Are the Brits & Co. khaki?  Yes;  but they're 8 different shades of khaki.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
SON OF A BITCH. Cool Stuff Inc has the new TK game for 60 bucks. Cocksuckers.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop paying bills.

QuoteFor the OCS fan, they have Gurderian's Blitzkrieg II for 82.

SON OF A BITCH.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 27, 2011, 11:22:24 PM
Here's the start of my review of Guards Tank.

Refer to the latest update.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
Don't fuck with 11 Bravo.  Nigga knows his dope.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 27, 2011, 11:32:07 PM
I really liked TK. Too bad the only game I got to play of it Tamas screwed up completely.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:40:43 PM
To be fair, you got to play the setup phase with CdM as well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 11:42:43 PM
Lulz
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 28, 2011, 02:15:42 AM
Updated.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 07:31:42 AM
I've been playing a lot of B-17: Queen of the Skies using Vassal.
Are there any other good single-player games I can play with it? Preferably ones where I can find a .pdf of the instructions online.  :pirate:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 28, 2011, 08:05:39 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 07:31:42 AM
I've been playing a lot of B-17: Queen of the Skies using Vassal.
Are there any other good single-player games I can play with it? Preferably ones where I can find a .pdf of the instructions online.  :pirate:

I did my Languish AAR using my B-29 copy. I think these are basically the same game, but B-29 is told to be easier.

An other excellent solitaire game is RAF. I understand there is a very new edition of it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 09:14:44 AM
Is there a version of B-29 where I can bomb the Japs?

Found RAF - looks pretty cool. Thanks :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 28, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 09:14:44 AM
Is there a version of B-29 where I can bomb the Japs?

Found RAF - looks pretty cool. Thanks :)

B-29 is a completely separate game from B-17 (altough admittedly inspired by it), and it IS about bombing the Japs.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
Sweet! Searching for it now.
Looks like it's only for Cyberboard, not Vassal. Doesn't matter though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on December 28, 2011, 12:12:06 PM
I would love the give 3 player TK another shot...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 29, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
Contining the living review for "Guards Tank".

Gents I would like your opinions if you think there's too much nastiness. I dont want it to appear that way.

Quote
Ongoing to be sure. :what:
1=worst to 10=best
Counters; (6)
  A first look at the counter sheet shows good clear markings and symbols. I like the different colors on the German counters. It makes them readily identifiable. Since the designer used the German SS "Lightning Bolts", the historical SS regimental names should have been used. Might as well have went for the "Full Monty". The Russian counter colors should be more disernable between formations. It was the 375th Rifle Division not 375th Guards. The Russian tank brigades appear to be historically named. Why not the same for their rifle regiments? That info is easily attainable.
(+)Counter markings clear and easy to read.
(+)German units distinguishable
(-)Unit ID errors
(-)Historical unit ID not used throughout
 
OOB; (3) 
The OOB is not bad. This is a glass half full perspective. A lot of the represented units and formations are included. However, the designer got the Russian command structures wrong. This game begins on 5 July not 10 July. Command structures need to be present IAW what was historical in place on 5 July.   
  Big problems to follow. The 5th Gds Army is missing as a formation. 5th Guards Army divisions are lumped in with the 6th Guards Army. Why? These divisions were not subordinate to 6th Gds Army. 5th Gds Army was SS-Totenkopf's primary antagonist when that division was shifted from the Corps right flank and put back into the Corps main effort. This is a major oversight on the designer's part.
  There is the 23rd RC HQ, but no 33rd and 32nd Gds Rifle Corps Hq's for the 5th Gds Army divisions. Several divisions are missing that weighed into the II SS sector (i.e. 6th Gds Abn, 66th Gds, 97th Gds, 93rd Gds). Several tank formations are just lumped in with the 5th Gds Tank Army (5th and 2nd Gds Tank Corps). Background; Both these Corps were subordinate to 1st Tank Army around 5 july. It wasn't until 11 July that 2nd Gds Tank Corps was attached to 5th Gds Tank Army. Again the game does not start on 10 or 11 July. Why are they lumped in with the 5th Gds Tank Army? Both of these Corps operated and had an impact in the II SS Corps' area. As did the 31st Tank Corps, which is also missing.

  The Russian 6th Gds Army's command structure is all skewed. As it stands by the rule book, the 6th GA HQ and 23rd RC HQ control 28 Russian formations/units(see rule snippet). How is that supposed to be accomplished within their command ranges? Russian divisional HQs should have been included. Not to mention 5th Gds Army's, 32nd GRC, and 33 GRC HQs.  I see major handicaps for the Russians that should not be there.

C2 rule snippets;
7.3 Command Structure: Each scenario has a "Command Structure" section for each side. This will delineate which HQ can provide command for which units.

7.5 Units Without HQ: In certain cases, a unit may have no HQ assigned to it, which means that unit is always OOC. ??????

24.7 Soviet Deployment
Soviet Command Structure
6 Guards Army (6GD) and 23 Guards Corps
(23 GD) command all units of:
the 42 Guards, 51 Guards, 52 Guards,
95 Guards, 183 Rifle and 375 Guards Rifle Divisions; 9 Guards Airborne Division;
6 Guards Army (6 GD) non-divisional units.


How is this supposed to be accomplished by these two HQs?

FYI: The 183rd Rifle Div. was part of the 48th Rifle Corps which was subordinate to the 69th Army not the 6th Gds Army. We have another formation present that is is lumped into the 6th Gds Army from the start.

A regiment from the German 167th  ID is present for the start of the game, which is good. Where is the rest of the division? The 167th ID relieved SS-Totenkopf from the Corps right flank around 8-9 July. The rest of the division should have been included and scheduled to arrive as reinforcements.
(+)(-) OOB is OK, just not complete or structured correctly
(-) Missing Russian Army/Corps/Division HQs.
(-)Missing formations that are critical towards the latter half of the offensive

Map/Scale; (2.5)
This map is so lacking I am stunned. Not much effort appeared to go into any research of the terrain in the sector.  Even a good portion of the Bykovka-Pokrovka road is missing. That was directly along SS-Leibstandarte's axis. A portion of the map sheet is taken up with charts and tables. These tables could have been put in the magazine. That would have fixed areas that are lacking in regards to the map coverage of the II SS sector. The map is labeled with the wrong scale, however that is minor. I disagree with a map scale of 1 km for regimental sized units. Background; Historically the 52nd Gds Rifle Division covered roughly 14 kms of the first defensive belt. They had eight of their nine battalions in the forward line. In order to cover that same frontage at game scale leaves some mighty big holes. I could provide a deployment example for the 375th (Rifle) Division for 5 July if needed. This information and deployment maps are easily found even on the internet. This does not make the Russian defensive line(s) very formidable nor realistic. Again it would seem the Russians are unnessisarily handicapped by the designer.
(-)Not much effort into the map
(-)Regimental units and 1km map scale unrealistic.
(-)Game tables should be elsewhere instead of map.

Rules/Tables;
The rules are well laid out and very readable. Some minor typos in the tables and rules text do appear. As already stated the charts and tables should not be on the map. More to follow. I have to take a break from this game.

Game Mechanics;

The Flow of the Battle;
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2011, 06:08:42 AM
Meh, I don't think you're really being nasty.  After all, it's a historical war game, and designers know what kind of crowd they're dealing with. 

And when it comes to OOB, after the Eastern Front perhaps only Napoleonictards are the biggest nitpickers (ZOMG NEY DIDNT ARRIVE UNTIL 11:10 THAT MORNING NOT 10:55 ZOMG FAIL), so a designer should know better than to toss out such shoddy research work, particularly on a subject that's been covered so much as Kursk.

OTOH, 1) it IS a magazine game, and 2) it IS a Decision Games magazine game.  That's kinda like being surprised about errors on a Wiki page. I mean: whaddya expect?

But no, I see no nastiness.  Just your typical wargamer nitpicking.  :P  But you put out crap, you're gonna get called on it.  And fucking Joe fucking knows better.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 29, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2011, 06:08:42 AM

OTOH, 1) it IS a magazine game, and 2) it IS a Decision Games magazine game.  That's kinda like being surprised about errors on a Wiki page. I mean: whaddya expect?

Thanks for the input and very good points.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 29, 2011, 03:09:05 PM
The more I investigate the map and what is missing in this abomination, the more enraged I get. This guy is a professional designer of games? Map is lowered to a (2.5)out of 10. At least he put Prokhorovka on it. This smacks of diehard German fanboi-ism.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 29, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
My condolences that you bought a JoeMi game with the hopes that it might be good.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 29, 2011, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 29, 2011, 03:35:27 PM
My condolences that you bought a JoeMi game with the hopes that it might be good.

I am really stunned. I posted the partial review at BGG. It's pending right now. On to Consimworld I go.

http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.1dd4b7fd/112
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 29, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
I guess you aren't buying the upcoming Minsk '44 game with the same system.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 29, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 29, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
I guess you aren't buying the upcoming Minsk '44 game with the same system.
:lmfao: Not based off what Ive seen with this one. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I am eyeballing  Kirovograd for next month.

I will continue to slog forward with Guards Tank. I have to complete this review. People must be warned. :bleeding:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on December 29, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
Any good strategic-level ACW games out there? For the People doesn't count.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 29, 2011, 09:05:11 PM
Thought about ordering from Fine Games, since they extended their clearance sale. But for the life of me, I'm not going to jump through all the hoops to order. WRITE DOWN THE ITEM NUMBER? WHAT IS THIS, 1985?

Sheesh.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2011, 09:10:26 PM
My PayPal spooged all over CoolStuffInc's face today.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 29, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
 :lol:

I ordered Case Yellow(killing Zoupas for fun and profit), That solo Alexander game for a friend, that Excalibre Ancient Conquest and almost that Sun of York game. Good thing I looked at BGG. CARD GAME? FAGG0TRY!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 30, 2011, 02:04:10 AM
Quote from: Kleves on December 29, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
Any good strategic-level ACW games out there? For the People doesn't count.

Civil War by Victory Games???? http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2081/the-civil-war I have always heard good thing about it. Preety big game though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 30, 2011, 02:05:00 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2011, 09:10:26 PM
My PayPal spooged all over CoolStuffInc's face today.

Do tell.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 30, 2011, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: dps on December 27, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
Haven't seen that many colors since AH's Anzio.  Or a pack of Skittles.

Dude, you own Europa titles.  I only see 7 different colors on that countersheet.  In Europa, the Germans and the Soviets each get more color schemes than that.

Yes, but see, in Europa, you still have shades.  Are the Brits & Co. khaki?  Yes;  but they're 8 different shades of khaki.

True, except for the Indians and some other colonials (i.e., not the Dominions) which are white with khaki/black & khaki/etc print, and the Royal Marines, who have apparantly got stuck with grey counters (though technically, that's supposed to be just an interim measure).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 30, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
Meanwhile down in the War Room, the playtesting continues to cmplete the review. :bleeding:

This is the initial deployment at start for this..game. It shows the formidable 1st line and 2nd lines of defense. Remember there are only two Russian HQs to control these units. :mad: One with a command radius of (4 in the second line) and the other with a radius of (3 in the first line). Right now 50% of the first line defending units will be out of command starting turn 2. :huh: You are suppose to pack 3 SS divisions and Corps assests into that little area south of the frontline. I modified that. SS-LAH and SS-Das Reich are deployed on map with their Arty off map. SS-Totenkopf and Corps assests are in reserve still in the counter sheet ready to exploit.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386061_2865135198697_1569276284_32787556_2046278893_n.jpg)

Btw; Elements of two russian rifle divisions are missing that were historically in the second line, but not included in the game. :mad: No matter I guess, thay would all be out of command by turn 2 anyway.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2011, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 29, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
:lol:

I ordered Case Yellow(killing Zoupas for fun and profit), That solo Alexander game for a friend, that Excalibre Ancient Conquest and almost that Sun of York game. Good thing I looked at BGG. CARD GAME? FAGG0TRY!

I ordered the Axis Empires duo (only because they were on sale), Few Acres of Snow (Hab's rave reviews sold me), and I caught up on a shitload of WH40K books I'd fallen behind on.  I was thinking about Case Yellow, but I think I'm gonna wait for the OCS version they're working on to come out.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2011, 12:27:37 PM
Incidentally, anybody planning on going to ASL Winter Offensive in Bowie in January?  They'll be debuting Festung Budapest.  It looks like it's going to be as big, if not bigger, than Valor of the Guards.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 30, 2011, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 24, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 24, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 22, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 22, 2011, 02:40:57 AM
Finnally found a copy of Bitter End.

:)

I was reading the designer notes (Ive had the pdf copy of the rules for awhile) and he considered Operation Frühlingserwachen first. Decided against it and I agree. The Konrad offensives were more dramatic.

As far as I can tell, most of my grandparents' stories come from the Konrad timeline, as they were caught by the middle of it, as civilians. (IIRC you can find the village of "Zamoly" on the map, which is were my mother comes from. It was more or less completely destroyed during this time, changing hands like a dozen times)

It's there on the map.

I have to say this game has excellent componets.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 31, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
For those that remember the old SPI games, their 1979 catalog:

http://wargamememories.com/Documents/SPI%20Brochure%201979.pdf

Sigh.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 31, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 31, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
For those that remember the old SPI games, their 1979 catalog:

http://wargamememories.com/Documents/SPI%20Brochure%201979.pdf

Sigh.

I have about 20 of those games, depending on how you count some of them that could be either purchased individually or as a set.

Several more, I'd like to get my hands on, especially if I could get them for the '79 list price.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
Gents,

How do this (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic272032.jpg&hash=f627aef750c459dee581965b6f966fdfd54e0aaa) compare to this (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic432415_md.jpg&hash=fc51e7b3e8dbbc85149a767f5760e07f9156bc05)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on January 01, 2012, 10:14:31 AM
With the first you have to get Operation Garbo.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 10:29:35 AM
Ah, kind of meant  a comparison of the system.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 11:20:44 AM
Can't say;  always wanted the Assault system, never got it.
World at War is a quiet, streamlined system if you don't want to get bogged down too much, and very pretty components, although Monkeybutt hates the font, and I prefer top-down as opposed to profile silohuettes.  But you have to be careful if you want it to remain "authentic", because he starts going off the rails with the system later on:  it's all eventually tied into his fantasy/sci-fi premise.  It's...strange.

Personally, as far as US/USSR stuff goes for tactical West Germany WW3 stuff, I still prefer AH's MBT.  It's got West German OOB in it, I just wish it had a few more NATO nations as well.  It's sister, IDF, is a pip, too.  Get to tear up Syrians with TEH CHOSIN PIPPLES with that one.

Also, AH's Tac Air is a little on the unwieldly side--these games are symptomatic of the late AH design features, which included god-awful rules systems--but still fun when you get it down.  More of a platoon/company level thing.  With A-10s.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 11:20:44 AM

Personally, as far as US/USSR stuff goes for tactical West Germany WW3 stuff, I still prefer AH's MBT.  It's got West German OOB in it, I just wish it had a few more NATO nations as well.  It's sister, IDF, is a pip, too.  Get to tear up Syrians with TEH CHOSIN PIPPLES with that one.

Two very good and top notch choices in IDF & MBT.

I played the shit out of the Assault sytem w/ the add=ons. A good system, but can get intensive. I've been on the fence about getting any new or replacing old NATO/WP games. They had a huge appeal to me back in the day. When the WP broke up the appeal went to zero. Thanks to the Commie Russian fucks. IMO they fucked up a perfectly good category of wargaming. :ultra:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
QuoteMonkeybutt hates the font

Sweet lord my EYES.

I also liked the Corps command version.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38471/corps-command-dawns-early-light

Just don't pay retail for it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
I played the shit out of the Assault sytem w/ the add=ons. A good system, but can get intensive. I've been on the fence about getting any new or replacing old NATO/WP games. They had a huge appeal to me back in the day. When the WP broke up the appeal went to zero. Thanks to the Commie Russian fucks. IMO they fucked up a perfectly good category of wargaming. :ultra:

No shit, on land, at sea and in the air, NATO-WP/US-USSR stuff was fun. 

Now what the fuck do we get? 

FIFTH FLEET: ANTI-PIRACY PATROL! Can YOU enforce freedom of the seas?  Can YOU sink ships too small to lock on with Harpoons?  Now YOU have ALL the weapons available to the USN in combating teenaged Somalis...including .50 CALIBER DECK GUNS...WATER CANNONS...and ANTI-BOARDER SLIPPERY FOAM!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
I also liked the Corps command version.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38471/corps-command-dawns-early-light

Just don't pay retail for it.

Meh, gimme Victory Games' NATO: The Next War In Europe any day.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
I had that one.

The last one I played was Group of Soviet Forces Germany. No ZoC's made the game sorta weird and we gave up after 2 turns. Or to be more precise, my friend gave up after I killed a bunch of his German divisions. THEY WEREN'T WHITE ON BLACK.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
I had that one.

Why'd you get rid of it? I have 2 copies.  Best playable invasion of WG out there, IMHO.

QuoteThe last one I played was Group of Soviet Forces Germany. No ZoC's made the game sorta weird and we gave up after 2 turns. Or to be more precise, my friend gave up after I killed a bunch of his German divisions. THEY WEREN'T WHITE ON BLACK.

That's why I like VG's NATO:  Wessies are yellow on black. The 3rd Shock shits on the Steelers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:29:10 PM
Hey, 11B, did you ever consider picking up SPI's The Next War again sometime?  Didn't you have a copy once upon a time?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
I had that one.

Why'd you get rid of it? I have 2 copies.  Best playable invasion of WG out there, IMHO.



Me poor in the mid 90's. Me had to eat and make house payment. Wargamers are suckers and pay high prices for old games.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:37:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
Me poor in the mid 90's. Me had to eat and make house payment. Wargamers are suckers and pay high prices for old games.

Then you man up, suck the cock, and be done with it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 01, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Hey Seedy, want to play a PBEM game of Totaler Krieg?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 01, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Hey Seedy, want to play a PBEM game of Totaler Krieg?

Not with that attitude.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on January 01, 2012, 07:15:45 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 01, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Hey Seedy, want to play a PBEM game of Totaler Krieg?

Since he's said "no", if you buy me a copy of the game and have it shipped to me, I'll consider playing a game against you.  I'll even give you choice of sides.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 07:31:09 PM
Berkut was just being Berkut, dps.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 01, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Hey Seedy, want to play a PBEM game of Totaler Krieg?

Not with that attitude.

:lol:

YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2012, 04:29:10 PM
Hey, 11B, did you ever consider picking up SPI's The Next War again sometime?  Didn't you have a copy once upon a time?

Ah, another favorite. Played  a lot of it too. However Noble has no stock as does Troll and toad that lists at 249.00. BGG has one for 98.00 at a good rating but who knows.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 08:39:53 PM


Quote

That's why I like VG's NATO:  Wessies are yellow on black. The 3rd Shock shits on the Steelers.

I remember that. Oddly reminiscent of OMG, TEH BLAK SS KOUNTERS
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
You tried the Central Front system? Hof Gap, et al?

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamefamily/4255/central-front-series
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 01, 2012, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 01, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
You tried the Central Front system? Hof Gap, et al?

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamefamily/4255/central-front-series

At one time I had V Corps and Hof Gap. Maps were works of art. System was OK too. If I remember right, somethings like Air Power was abstracted. Friction points anyone?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
Ran into a term on BGG.....EuroGamer????? :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 07:59:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
Ran into a term on BGG.....EuroGamer????? :huh:

Where have you been, man?

You see, Eurogamers have to be cleared away by the hand of God, like the Jews of old.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 02, 2012, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
Ran into a term on BGG.....EuroGamer????? :huh:

Yes, and they call any game where there is randomness (ie. a need to improvize, adapt, and generally show a creative brain) "ameritrash"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 08:16:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 07:59:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
Ran into a term on BGG.....EuroGamer????? :huh:

Where have you been, man?

You see, Eurogamers have to be cleared away by the hand of God, like the Jews of old.

On the fringe, man, the fringe.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 08:17:36 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 02, 2012, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
Ran into a term on BGG.....EuroGamer????? :huh:

Yes, and they call any game where there is randomness (ie. a need to improvize, adapt, and generally show a creative brain) "ameritrash"
Complexity or asysemetrical in other words.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
11B, Sounds like you need a big ol' heapin' helping of...PUERTO RICO!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 08:25:31 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
11B, Sounds like you need a big ol' heapin' helping of...PUERTO RICO!

I only had to see a couple of the images on BGG of that game to say.....I'm good, thanks. :huh:

From BGG
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic478330_md.jpg&hash=76d1bce07c565a5dd69b4b641d3006413d0e4bc4)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 08:25:31 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
11B, Sounds like you need a big ol' heapin' helping of...PUERTO RICO!

I only had to see a couple of the images on BGG of that game to say.....I'm good, thanks. :huh:

When I went out to Origins last year (2010), the largest area in the exhibit hall was for Mayfair Games and playing area for Settlers of Catan.  I wanted to go all Jesus-in-the-Temple on them. But I didn't.
It was still disgusting to watch, though.  Not a single panzer division was in play.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
QuoteNot a single panzer division was in play.

Sacrilege. If they look anything like dude  :huh: above, he dont need to be around a panzer div. The french or polish...eh I'll grant him that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
11B, Sounds like you need a big ol' heapin' helping of...PUERTO RICO!

Friends don't let friends play Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 02, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
SO how do you guys feel about Eurogamers mechanics creeping into your wargames?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 02, 2012, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 02, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
SO how do you guys feel about Eurogamers mechanics creeping into your wargames?

Posing aside, I think classical "american" games can learn from the eurogames, and they have been doing just that, to good effect.

That's because, a lot of these "european" mechanics offer a lot of streamlining compared to the classics without sacrificing the number, difficulty, or quality of decisions. And let's face it, the ""eurogamer" spread raised the production qualities. Gone are butt-ugly maps and counters.

The plight of eurogames aren't the rules and mechanics - Puerto Rico has very nice and clever mechanics. The problem is their philosophy - they too often cater to the Mensa-members and assorted "intellectuals" who are no doubt very smart and have a great talent in number-crounching and analysis, but start to shake and frown when any kind of random factor is involved. They think you need bigger brains for something you can win repeatedly by the same way, they don't realize that it is a far greater challenge to constantly adopt for ever-chaning circumstances.

And of course the other big eurogamer problem is the very loosely attached theme. That's what hurts me most regarding them.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on January 02, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 02, 2012, 08:01:50 AM
Yes, and they call any game where there is randomness (ie. a need to improvize, adapt, and generally show a creative brain) "ameritrash"

That's not true.  Classically Eurogames have no problem with randomness.  See Settlers of Catan (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13/the-settlers-of-catan), Um Reifenbreite (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/442/um-reifenbreite), Manhattan (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/199/manhattan), Hare and Tortoise (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/361/hare-tortoise), El Grande (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/93/el-grande), Ursuppe (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/124/primordial-soup) and many others.  Even if you go back to the American game that is considered the father of Eurogames, Acquire (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5/acquire), it's got a healthy dose of luck.  The major impetus behind most Eurogames is the exploration of game mechanics over faithfulness to the theme.  This can lead to accusations of the theme being "tacked on", which in some cases is literally true.  Despite this there almost always is some sort of theme, which along with a degree of randomness differentiates them from Abstracts like Chess, Checkers or Go.

The Ameritrash label isn't separated from Eurogames by randomness, rather it's typified by games with a historical, fantasy or science fiction bent where the theme and components have a greater importance than the mechanisms of the game.  They tend to trace their roots back to the Milton Bradley Big Box games of the 80s, like Shogun (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/221/ikusa), Conquest of the Empire (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/97/conquest-of-the-empire), Fortress America (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/99/fortress-america) and Axis & Allies (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/98/axis-allies). 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
http://compassgames.com/show/product/nations_in_arms:_valmy_to_waterloo

QuoteNations In Arms: Valmy To Waterloo

Nations in Arms brings one of the most famous periods in history to your gaming table: the French Revolution and the legend of Napoleon in Europe, from 1792 to 1815. This epic treatment of the Napoleonic period covers 24 years of warfare at the strategic level.

Nations in Arms uses a extensively updated, modified and streamlined version of the Le Grand Empire game system from Pratzen Editions (that game covered the 1800-1815 time period). The result is that Nations in Arms is an entirely new, and very playable, Napoleonic epic from designer Stanislas Thomas.

Players control every major and minor power of the Napoleonic period: from the largest participants to the smallest. This allows anywhere from 2 to 7 players to participate in the game. Players are challenged with strategically managing their annual national production, diplomacy, and most importantly, war.

The game systems emphasize the military importance of lines of communication, the command and control ability of skilled leaders, quality of troops above quantity, and the impact of battle, epic sieges and attrition on a nation. You will have the power of great leaders at your fingertips, and the might of the corps they commanded: line infantry, guards, militia, supply trains, light and reserve cavalry, fleets and more.

Each game year is broken into four interactive, seasonal turns. A Chit Activation system is used to recreate the 'chaos of war', and events occur using an Historical Event card deck. This combination of variable chit pull and card play ensures a high replay value of the ten (10) scenarios. Nations in Arms features a one-turn tutorial scenario , four epic campaign scenarios, and five smaller scenarios.

Now it's your turn to either fan the flames of The French Revolution throughout Europe, or to preserve the Old Order...

Huh. That got my attention.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 02, 2012, 08:19:48 PM
Yeah, it's definitely on my radar and I'm hoping for good things from it.  Compass puts out some good stuff and the guys in charge of it aren't douchebags.

It has cards, though.  ;)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
I tolerated cards those for Hammer of the Scots, I can tolerate them to shove Davout down somebody's throat.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
I tolerated cards those for Hammer of the Scots, I can tolerate them to shove Davout down somebody's throat.

Blocks AND cards?  Dude.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 02, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
I tolerated cards those for Hammer of the Scots, I can tolerate them to shove Davout down somebody's throat.

Blocks AND cards?  Dude.

I got my wife to play it. She won't play as the English though.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 02, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
The completed review so no one else hopefully wastes their money on this. Posted at BGG and in the Guards Tank folder at consimworld.


1=worst to 10=best
Counters; (6)
A first look at the counter sheet shows good clear markings and symbols. I like the different colors on the German counters. It makes them readily identifiable. Since the designer used the German SS "Lightning Bolts", the historical SS regimental names should have been used. Might as well have went for the "Full Monty". The Russian counter colors should be more disernable between formations. It was the 375th Rifle Division not 375th Guards. The Russian tank brigades appear to be historically named. Why not the same for their rifle regiments? That info is easily attainable.
(+)Counter markings clear and easy to read.
(+)German units distinguishable
(-)Unit ID errors
(-)Historical unit ID not used throughout

OOB; (3)
The OOB is not bad. This is a glass half full perspective. A lot of the represented units and formations are included. However, the designer got the Russian command structures wrong. This game begins on 5 July not 10 July. Command structures need to be present IAW what was historical in place on 5 July.
Big problems to follow. The 5th Gds Army is missing as a formation. 5th Guards Army divisions are lumped in with the 6th Guards Army. Why? These divisions were not subordinate to 6th Gds Army. 5th Gds Army was SS-Totenkopf's primary antagonist when that division was shifted from the Corps right flank and put back into the Corps main effort. This is a major oversight on the designer's part.
There is the 23rd RC HQ, but no 33rd and 32nd Gds Rifle Corps Hq's for the 5th Gds Army divisions. Several divisions are missing that weighed into the II SS sector (i.e. 6th Gds Abn, 66th Gds, 97th Gds, 93rd Gds). Several tank formations are just lumped in with the 5th Gds Tank Army (5th and 2nd Gds Tank Corps). Background; Both these Corps were subordinate to 1st Tank Army around 5 july. It wasn't until 11 July that 2nd Gds Tank Corps was attached to 5th Gds Tank Army. Again the game does not start on 10 or 11 July. Why are they lumped in with the 5th Gds Tank Army? Both of these Corps operated and had an impact in the II SS Corps' area. As did the 31st Tank Corps, which is also missing.

The Russian 6th Gds Army's command structure is all skewed. As it stands by the rule book, the 6th GA HQ and 23rd RC HQ control 28 Russian formations/units(see rule snippet). How is that supposed to be accomplished within their command ranges? Russian divisional HQs should have been included. Not to mention 5th Gds Army's, 32nd GRC, and 33 GRC HQs. I see major handicaps for the Russians that should not be there.

C2 rule snippets;
7.3 Command Structure: Each scenario has a "Command Structure" section for each side. This will delineate which HQ can provide command for which units.

7.5 Units Without HQ: In certain cases, a unit may have no HQ assigned to it, which means that unit is always OOC. ??????

24.7 Soviet Deployment
Soviet Command Structure
6 Guards Army (6GD) and 23 Guards Corps
(23 GD) command all units of:
the 42 Guards, 51 Guards, 52 Guards,
95 Guards, 183 Rifle and 375 Guards Rifle Divisions; 9 Guards Airborne Division;
6 Guards Army (6 GD) non-divisional units.

How is this supposed to be accomplished by these two HQs?

FYI: The 183rd Rifle Div. was part of the 48th Rifle Corps which was subordinate to the 69th Army not the 6th Gds Army. We have another formation present that is lumped into the 6th Gds Army from the start.
Also, a regiment of the 183rd rifle was deployed in the second defensive line. The rest of the division should be deployed in the games third line along with another missing rifle division (305th)from 69th Army's 48th Rifle Corps. Missing elements of the 89th Gds Div in the second line also. Not even included in the game.

It appears that SS-LAH and SS-Das Reich each have (two) panzer battalions. Historically each of these division had only one. Did the designer not research their OOB's? Or are they representative of panzer Kampf Gruppen? They are mark as a battalion and not a (KG). SS-Totenkopf had (two) panzer battalions.

A regiment from the German 167th ID is present for the start of the game, which is good. Where is the rest of the division? The 167th ID relieved SS-Totenkopf from the Corps right flank around 8-9 July. The rest of the division should have been included and scheduled to arrive as reinforcements.
(+)(-) OOB is OK, just not complete or structured correctly
(-)Missing Russian Army/Corps/Division HQs
(-)Missing formations that are critical towards the latter half of the offensive.
(-)Appears to be an extra panzer bat for the SS-LAH and SS-DR
(-)Total of SIX russian rifle divisions and one Tank Corps missing from the OOB.

Map/Scale; (2.5)
This map is so lacking I am stunned. Not much effort appeared to go into any research of the terrain in the sector. Even a good portion of the Bykovka-Pokrovka road is missing. That was directly along SS-Leibstandarte's axis. A portion of the map sheet is taken up with charts and tables. These tables could have been put in the magazine. That would have fixed areas that are lacking in regards to the map coverage of the II SS sector. The map is labeled with the wrong scale, however that is minor. I disagree with a map scale of 1 km for regimental sized units. Background; Historically the 52nd Gds Rifle Division covered roughly 14 kms of the first defensive belt. They had eight of their nine battalions in the forward line. In order to cover that same frontage at game scale leaves some mighty big holes. I could provide a deployment example for the 375th (Rifle) Division for 5 July if needed. This information and deployment maps are easily found even on the internet. This does not make the Russian defensive line(s) very formidable nor realistic. Again it would seem the Russians are unnessisarily handicapped by the designer.
(-)Not much effort into the map
(-)Regimental units and 1km map scale unrealistic.
(-)Game tables should be elsewhere instead of map.

Rules/Tables; (5)
The rules are well laid out and very readable. Some minor typos in the tables and rules text do appear. As already stated the charts and tables should not be on the map. There's just nothing really new here.

Game Play; (5)
The system appears to work rather well. I didn't encounter any major flaws other than the Russian Command units. This needs to be fixed IMO. The sequence of play is rather standard fair. The second wave attack is a good inclusion. I would have liked to have seen a second movement/exploit for the phasing player and maybe a reactive phase for the non-phasing player. Russian unit density can get alarming low. This didn't appeal to me. The CRTs can be nice and bloody, a good thing. I believe this game would have done good with a formation activation type system. The zone of control rules IMO are too restrictive at this scale and unit size. Perhaps a facing rule would having been better. All in all I beleive the designer tried to accomplish too much and in the process short changed what could have been a good game. He should have just went with the actual Battle of Prokhorovka starting from 10 July.

One of the reasons for playing wargames is to figure out what happened historically. That is not represented by Guards Tank. This game is not about the battle of Prokhorovka. It is a game covering the portion of II SS Panzer Corp's assault with in Operation Citadel. It's doesn't even represent that very well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 02, 2012, 11:56:44 PM
Getting burned on a wargame purchase is never good.  I've had it happen enough times now that I'm pretty careful about what I purchase.  I've canceled most of my pre-orders of late and only order stuff by untested designers if the topic really interests me and the playtester word-of-mouth makes it seem worthwhile.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 12:14:20 AM
I usually live and never learn. :lol: I really wanted to like it. I'll be digging into the Deathride Kursk series this year. With some sprinkling of the smaller GBACW games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Well it's next month ( :lol:) and
Wintergewitter with the weird unit symbols from ATO.
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12049/wintergewitter
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic190479_md.jpg&hash=534c45189bd48c4e09c7ffaa9abab8a431614d1f)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic219544_lg.jpg&hash=07e79ba9a081cf68a4c9c7e0e2f3f0cade29f248)

Kirovograd, an old Radey game.
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13837/kirovograd
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic70610_t.jpg&hash=4c90118621e1f396405554a0bb00798e97d68076)

and SS Panzer. I ve owned this before, liked it, and lost it somewhere along the way.
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4232/ss-panzer-bloodbath-at-kursk
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic196852_t.jpg&hash=c1b73588cd11a9cb2ae798d5a6250f9ad65c99ae)

are on the way.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Wintergewitter with the weird unit symbols from ATO.

At least they'll make you think.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 05:57:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Wintergewitter with the weird unit symbols from ATO.

At least they'll make you think.

Kind of reminisent of AH The Longest Day.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 05:57:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Wintergewitter with the weird unit symbols from ATO.

At least they'll make you think.

Kind of reminisent of AH The Longest Day.

No shit.  DOES IT LOOK LIKE I ATTENDED WEHRMACHT GENERAL STAFF SCHOOL
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 03, 2012, 08:48:27 AM
QuoteATO

Ah, ATO. The artist responsible for Fortress Berlin's counters should be beaten with a rubber hose.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 03, 2012, 08:48:27 AM
QuoteATO

Ah, ATO. The artist responsible for Fortress Berlin's counters should be beaten with a rubber hose.

The only other game I got from them is Deathride: Mars-la Tour. Looks nice, havent played it though.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33018/deathride-mars-la-tour-1870

I can deal with there Wintergewitter counters. As long as they arent damn vehicle  silhouettes at this scale. Those irritate me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 03, 2012, 10:55:02 AM
QuoteFortress Berlin's

:huh: Oh no, those would give me a headache.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Woot, the Big Brown Truck showed up today.

It's even better getting it to show up at work instead of home.  You get your toys faster.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 04, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Woot, the Big Brown Truck showed up today.

It's even better getting it to show up at work instead of home.  You get your toys faster.

I need to try that, but I fear the shift LT will have a cow ;). What you get?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
Few Acres of Snow, the Axis Empires duo, and a few WH40K RPG books I needed
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 04, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
Few Acres of Snow

That one's a big hit with Habbaku IIRC
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Yeah, that's why I got it.  I trust his judgement.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 04, 2012, 08:42:34 PM
If you do play it, make sure you use the "errata" posted on BGG (can provide link if you want).  It fixes the small amount of the more egregious stuff that players have discovered after a hojillion plays.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 04, 2012, 08:42:34 PM
If you do play it, make sure you use the "errata" posted on BGG (can provide link if you want).  It fixes the small amount of the more egregious stuff that players have discovered after a hojillion plays.

Thanks.  And yeah, we'll play it.  If we can knock out a decent 5 or 6 rounds of Hell of Stalingrad on a good weekend evening, looks like we can do some damage with this one.

It's the big 'uns we never seem to have the time or strength for anymore.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 04, 2012, 09:21:58 PM
Axis Empires, sweet! Lets get a PBEM game going!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 04, 2012, 09:21:58 PM
Axis Empires, sweet! Lets get a PBEM game going!

I see what you're doing there.  But my speed chess clock is broken anyway.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 06, 2012, 06:34:54 PM
Fedex drop off the order today.

Wintergewitter is a quality production. Hope it plays as well as it looks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 07, 2012, 03:09:46 PM
Just got World at War Blood and Bridges. Dead Brits ahoy!

I hope I don't already have it.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 07, 2012, 03:54:28 PM
Looks good. I'm still mulling over the Nato/WP.

Looking at Across Five Aprils or Hell's Highway as next purchase. T&T and Noble Knight both out of stock though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2012, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 07, 2012, 03:54:28 PM
Looks good. I'm still mulling over the Nato/WP.

Looking at Across Five Aprils or Hell's Highway as next purchase. T&T and Noble Knight both out of stock though.

Check Days of The Knights in Newark, DE for Across Five Aprils, I seem to recall seeing a well-loved copy for sale.  Their store online sucks, but they've got a good collection, but you have to call them.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 09, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
I will, thanks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 11, 2012, 01:13:23 PM
Another fawning review of A Few Acres of Snow, this time from Quarter to Three :

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/01/10/a-few-acres-of-snow-you-say-vous-desirez-la-revolution/

QuoteSo that's it then, eh? A cool game that you can't buy or play because it's already sold out, and therefore is just another example of hot boardgames being unavailable to anyone who isn't compulsively refreshing Boardgamegeek every five minutes? Oh no, friends. That is where you're wrong.

Yucata.de, a long-time Eurogame online free-to-play website, offers a very nice implementation of A Few Acres of Snow. Play is asynchronous, so you can't see your opponent's move until it's done, but the applet does a nice job of refreshing itself when a move is available (and sending you an email about it). It can even move you from game to game if you're playing multiple instances. The applet itself works cleanly, has an elegant interface, and — most importantly — enforces the rules.

:)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 12, 2012, 08:22:24 AM
Fuck, bit the bullet for HttR2 from coolstuff.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 13, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
I got stir crazy today, so I ran down the road to Winter Offensive, and grabbed a copy of Where Eagles Dare, and the new ASL Festung Budapest.

Counters stick to you when you roll around them, all sweaty like.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on January 15, 2012, 06:47:01 AM
Played the Blood Bowl card game from FFG. It was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 16, 2012, 01:54:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 13, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
I got stir crazy today, so I ran down the road to Winter Offensive, and grabbed a copy of Where Eagles Dare, and the new ASL Festung Budapest.

Counters stick to you when you roll around them, all sweaty like.

I'm charged about Heights of Courage by MMP. On the too buy list when it comes out.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/84834/heights-of-courage
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 17, 2012, 07:26:41 AM
Seedy you prob seen this. Fuck five maps.

It Never Snows

Five Full Color 22" x 34" Game Maps
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 17, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
My speculative investment, er, Where Eagles Dare arrived the other day.  Into the pile it goes, waiting for the day when it is out of print and worth double what I paid.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2012, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 17, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
My speculative investment, er, Where Eagles Dare arrived the other day.  Into the pile it goes, waiting for the day when it is out of print and worth double what I paid.

Aren't they all?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 17, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
No, because I play some of them and that greatly diminishes the value.   :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2012, 12:11:17 AM
So you bought two copies?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on January 18, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
I've actually done that on occasion--bought 2 copies of a game, 1 to play and 1 to leave in mint condition as an investment.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 18, 2012, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2012, 12:11:17 AM
So you bought two copies?

Don't plan on playing it, so just bought the one.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 20, 2012, 09:37:56 AM
Hey Habs, you are big on this Few Acres game right? I am reading the rules. Would you mind handing me my ass in it so I can learn it? :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 20, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
No problem, though it isn't really much of a PBEM game.  Still, if you want to give it a swing, just send me a Vassal turn whenever you're comfortable to start.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 20, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 20, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
No problem, though it isn't really much of a PBEM game.  Still, if you want to give it a swing, just send me a Vassal turn whenever you're comfortable to start.

there is that german free service thing starting with a Y. It sends out e-mails when its your turn and all, I heard.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 20, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Never heard of it, so I put you in charge of finding it.  :P

Also, here are the errata rules : http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/743531/rules-changes-from-martin-wallace
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on January 20, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
Try Yucata (http://www.yucata.de/en).

It implements the errata rules, although there's a bug associated with retreating from a seige.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 20, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
Thanks, Frunk.  :)

Just registered as "Habbaku" and waiting on your invite, Tamas.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2012, 02:21:39 PM
CdM Next time you over at consim forum, pop in the Grognard Sim folder. Notice Chris' avatar?   ;)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2012, 02:28:15 PM
lol, by the time it's all over he'll see to it that we'll have games representing every company ever served in the German military. :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2012, 02:28:15 PM
lol, by the time it's all over he'll see to it that we'll have games representing every company ever served in the German military. :lol:

True dat. Here's his reply
QuotePaul,

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.consimworld.com%2FWebX%3F31%40%4011e1ba82%404&hash=59bf9c4bcf10307f35e3be1c4dbab4ed27f9c131)

I am indeed working on the IISS Pz Korps at Kursk as an add on to the DRK series. I have sent some test units out for feedback on whether a camo background works with it. This 3 game set will be able to be connected to the original DRK. Specifically they hook up along the right side of 11th Panzer.

Regards, Chris

Here's a link to a page in which a preliminary pdf of the SS-T countersheet

http://talk.consimworld.com/[email protected]@.1dd55af7/124
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Some orders are finally rolling in.

Hell's Highway; also ordered anderson's updated counters

Highway to the Reich (2nd Ed.);  :w00t: Holy chit. This is not your SPI HttR as I remember. Flippin gourgeous

Baltic Gap; Hasn't arrived yet. Was looking at Hube's Pocket, but fat chance on that $$$$$$$

Korsun (an SPI AGS Quad); This is one of the first I cut my teeth on along with Operation Star and what started it all with the Russian Theater back in '79-'80. Plus this will be interesting because I'm also reading Hell's Gate right now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 12:26:39 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Some orders are finally rolling in.

Hell's Highway; also ordered anderson's updated counters

Highway to the Reich (2nd Ed.);  :w00t: Holy chit. This is not your SPI HttR as I remember. Flippin gourgeous

Baltic Gap; Hasn't arrived yet. Was looking at Hube's Pocket, but fat chance on that $$$$$$$

Korsun (an SPI AGS Quad); This is one of the first I cut my teeth on along with Operation Star and what started it all with the Russian Theater back in '79-'80. Plus this will be interesting because I'm also reading Hell's Gate right now.

Baltic Gap is a great OCS product.  Not too big, not too small.  Germans have some punch on the defensive, Reds can get caught up in their own speed. 

HTTR is a gorgeous production, but I fear the mechanics are questionable.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 23, 2012, 11:32:34 AM
Was browsing Consim and I found this intriguing(sound it out Marty).

QuoteThe best games are played with a referee who really knows the subject, can keep the game moving, and the players know as little about the rules intricacies as possible, and just focus on solving the tactical problems (if its that scale, the operational or strategic problems if its bigger). The players are able to make choices, and propose solutions that may not have been covered by whatever rules there are. It all happens behind the referee's eyes, or screen, and whether he is just making the calls, or rolling a die, hardly matters. Quit quibbling about the rules and focus on playing. That's my idea of fun.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on January 23, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

The best crisis management games work that way.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...

Lol, I may wind up having a lot of time on my hands in the near future, but we know how that'll go over here  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...

:hmm:  For what it's worth, I put in an order for the 1st volume and was considering the same thing.  I should be able to take care of running it if you were interested in playing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 23, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

Personally, I am interested in you checking my Acres invite :P
I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...

:hmm:  For what it's worth, I put in an order for the 1st volume and was considering the same thing.  I should be able to take care of running it if you were interested in playing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 23, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

Personally, I am interested in you checking my Acres invite :P
I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...

:hmm:  For what it's worth, I put in an order for the 1st volume and was considering the same thing.  I should be able to take care of running it if you were interested in playing.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 23, 2012, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 23, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 23, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
This is why "Le vol de l'aigle" (did you end up buying it, CdM?) is so fun. Players are (mostly) in the dark about the rules, their enemies, their allies. You need to trust the referee though.

Yes, it is.  It has the potential to be the best refereed game since Diplomacy.

Personally, I am interested in you checking my Acres invite :P
I have been toying with the idea of hosting a game here - but I have so little time...

:hmm:  For what it's worth, I put in an order for the 1st volume and was considering the same thing.  I should be able to take care of running it if you were interested in playing.

:rolleyes: I was saying: I invited you to the Acres game about 3 days ago.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Ah, and you didn't feel the need to post this in the thread that you asked me about for some reason?  Despite my specifically asking you to do just that?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 23, 2012, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Ah, and you didn't feel the need to post this in the thread that you asked me about for some reason?  Despite my specifically asking you to do just that?

You ought to get an e-mail about it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 23, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
I didn't, but I'll go ahead and figure out why not on Yucata's thingy.

You're up.   :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 03:31:44 AM
Ain't that Yucata software just swell? I couldnt get the "trader" action activate for my, you know, trader, so I discarded it thinking perhaps that's the way. It wasn't :bleeding:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 24, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
Discard = discard.

To get the multiple-cards-required action working, you have to click each card involved in the action, then hit the button necessary.  So, you click the Trader card, then click whichever furs you're going to use for it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 24, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
Discard = discard.

To get the multiple-cards-required action working, you have to click each card involved in the action, then hit the button necessary.  So, you click the Trader card, then click whichever furs you're going to use for it.

yeah but what if the trade option doesnt light up?

but anyways, I just gave you a free round, it is a learning game for me anyway :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 24, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
Guards Tank Update

I emailed JM last nite. I inquired if he would have a problem with me constructing a scenario starting 10 July 43 when the actual battle of Prokhorovka began and post it to BGG. I dont know the protocals and all, so we'll see if he replies. Still wont change my rating of it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 24, 2012, 03:48:02 PM
Just FYI, Tamas, I will be in Canada from tomorrow until next Monday, so will be rather delayed in my turns.

I would note that Berkut will also be delayed in his turns, but that would be redundant.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Pfft, I will have you know that right now I am waiting on him.

I think his morale has taken a hit.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Pfft, I will have you know that right now I am waiting on him.

I think his morale has taken a hit.

errr, I sent you a move several days ago.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Pfft, I will have you know that right now I am waiting on him.

I think his morale has taken a hit.

errr, I sent you a move several days ago.

NO, you sent me a question several days ago, which I answered, and since then...nothing.

And since the question included the direction that you would be taking something from my hand, I can't really continue until you tell me what you want to take.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Pfft, I will have you know that right now I am waiting on him.

I think his morale has taken a hit.

errr, I sent you a move several days ago.

NO, you sent me a question several days ago, which I answered, and since then...nothing.

no, I sent you a file
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Pfft, I will have you know that right now I am waiting on him.

I think his morale has taken a hit.

errr, I sent you a move several days ago.

NO, you sent me a question several days ago, which I answered, and since then...nothing.

no, I sent you a file


...along with a question.

I quote:

Quote...I played Red Orchestra so I need to know what's in your hand

That card forces me to give you a card or discard or something. So until you tell me what card you want me to give or discard, I cannot continue.

So yeah...waiting on you. Again.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
I sent you a file after that. Anyway, resent
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 24, 2012, 08:41:15 PM
Oh, the huge manatee!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 25, 2012, 06:58:03 AM
Few Acres of Snow does appear to be interesting, altough I only have the vaguest of ideas of how it will progress and what I am supposed to do. No doubt newcomers can be easily schooled in it.

But still, I quite like it already and considering that Berk and Habs will go on a romantic holiday together, anyone feeling like playing a game on yucata just let me know. Very originally, I am known as 'Tamas' there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on January 25, 2012, 08:12:33 AM
Unlike a lot of other games, figuring out what to do in AFA is pretty organic.  There are only a few victory conditions and only so many things that will garner VPs and, on top of that, you always have some idea of what your opponent is up to and may take steps to counter such.

A big part of the game is expansion vs. efficiency.  The more territory you get, generally the more VPs you'll gain, but expansion exposes you to raids (a big up/down shift in VPs) and fills out your deck with potentially useless cards.  Do not underestimate the power of things like Hme Support, Governor and Intendant (a French-only card).  Of course, to utilize the first and third requires money, and that's always in short supply...

I'll try to think of more tips to give, but typing on a cell phone is becoming onerous.  Feel free to ask for strategt or an explanation of why I'm doing certain actions.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 25, 2012, 11:54:22 PM
Just purchased Assault and Boots & Saddles on BGG. Played the shit outta this system in the day. I bought these in '85 and when a new expansion came out. I have all the maps in my PB/PL game boxes, just not the rest of the games...strange.

Bundeswehr, Chieftain, and Reinforcement are going to be harder to find. :(

:menace: Ah, very familar. From BGG
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic162058_md.jpg&hash=dc3591e708366f26df9989e56151e3c12f0f393d)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 27, 2012, 03:05:14 AM
Thanks for the tips Habs.

Is there any reason why the game resets after I make a move including the improvement of Montreal? It does it, I do my second action (choosing an empire card), then either it shows me your move again like nothing happened, or gives me an error message.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 27, 2012, 04:18:42 AM
Okay so they are in the middle of a DNS move, hence the bug :P Someone posted the IP for the site in the chat so I managed to make my move.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 31, 2012, 06:45:39 AM
Alright wargamers. What's the deal with Perry Moore? I see some folks, usually the same ones bagging on this guy. Did a look at his games and the ratings overall arent that bad. Whats up?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 31, 2012, 08:14:55 AM
Your average DTP guy made good. I suppose.  No opinion either way on him, don't have any of his work.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 31, 2012, 08:25:10 AM
His Last Panzer Victory from way back in the past was alright.

That submarine game in ATO might have been interesting, except the graphics on it was like tim puking pastels on the map.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on January 31, 2012, 10:20:45 AM


Last Panzer Vic is on the to-order list. He seems to do some obsurce EF battles. Which is good, for me anyway.

CdM, Ed..This guy just gets no slack from what seems to be the same folks on BGG and consim. I'm going to order a couple of his DTP games. I have his "Kesselschlacht",
game on the shelf. That game gets bagged on BGG, but on consim it's almost the opposite. *Shrugs Shoulders* I'll crack it after I get done with BfK and SPI's old Korsun game.

Consims a weird animal. How would we have ever played some of these games back in the day before the internet. Oh, I know, come to a mutual consesus on a conflicting rule and
continue playing. Funny how the panzers kept rolling in those days. :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on January 31, 2012, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 31, 2012, 10:20:45 AM

Consims a weird animal. How would we have ever played some of these games back in the day before the internet. Oh, I know, come to a mutual consesus on a conflicting rule and
continue playing. Funny how the panzers kept rolling in those days. :lol:

There was a discussion about that in relation to A Few Acres of Snow on BGG.  That works well for face to face opponents, but it gets difficult if you play a lot of games online through Vassal, Cyberboard or other non-direct mediums.  Many of your opponents may be one off type of things, and negotiating errata midgame or with each opponent each time you start up a game is tricky.  It also raises headaches for any competitive formats like tournaments.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 31, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 31, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
CdM, Ed..This guy just gets no slack from what seems to be the same folks on BGG and consim. I'm going to order a couple of his DTP games. I have his "Kesselschlacht",
game on the shelf. That game gets bagged on BGG, but on consim it's almost the opposite. *Shrugs Shoulders* I'll crack it after I get done with BfK and SPI's old Korsun game.

Consims a weird animal. How would we have ever played some of these games back in the day before the internet. Oh, I know, come to a mutual consesus on a conflicting rule and
continue playing. Funny how the panzers kept rolling in those days. :lol:

While there's a lot of overlap, there's still two totally distinct crowds between BGG and CSW, and the twain shall never meet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on January 31, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
I seem to remember some sort of stink at CSW about Perry and a Warsaw uprising game. But then again, those fairies at CSW get their panties in a bunch about everything.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 31, 2012, 03:39:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 31, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
I seem to remember some sort of stink at CSW about Perry and a Warsaw uprising game. But then again, those fairies at CSW get their panties in a bunch about everything.

ZOMG SS IS OVERPOWERD
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on February 01, 2012, 04:07:35 AM
Got invited to play Axis & Allies Global 1940 this weekend. Should I?  :huh:
I played the original back in the day, it was fun but I was around 15 at the time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 01, 2012, 11:43:51 PM
Re-purchasing some old favs (These had some badass covers.)

AGS Korsun & Kiev(Not shown)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428109_3118573454495_1569276284_32886118_2083308172_n.jpg)

Arnhem
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic586750_md.jpg&hash=7f179658c2918605ab7c3ac31b68d287086b4849)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on February 02, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 25, 2012, 11:54:22 PM
Just purchased Assault and Boots & Saddles on BGG. Played the shit outta this system in the day. I bought these in '85 and when a new expansion came out. I have all the maps in my PB/PL game boxes, just not the rest of the games...strange.

Bundeswehr, Chieftain, and Reinforcement are going to be harder to find. :(

:menace: Ah, very familar. From BGG
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic162058_md.jpg&hash=dc3591e708366f26df9989e56151e3c12f0f393d)

That map brings back some old memories.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 08:59:12 AM
The Man with 1500 boardgames:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20120202/NEWS/302039999

lol. Eurogames.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 03, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 08:59:12 AM
lol. Eurogames.  :rolleyes:

1,500 Eurogames.  Whatever.

Squee. Mew.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2012, 12:52:31 PM
Quote from: Maladict on February 01, 2012, 04:07:35 AM
Got invited to play Axis & Allies Global 1940 this weekend. Should I?  :huh:
I played the original back in the day, it was fun but I was around 15 at the time.

How different is it from the original?  The original was only fun if you had newbs or retards playing the Allies.

Another vote in for Victory Games' Civil War.  Don't bother with the Indian/West nonsense.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 01:09:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2012, 12:52:31 PM


Another vote in for Victory Games' Civil War.  Don't bother with the Indian/West nonsense.

:o

Heresy. How else will Lyon get promoted up when using the Jackson/Lyon optional rule?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on February 03, 2012, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2012, 12:52:31 PM
How different is it from the original?  The original was only fun if you had newbs or retards playing the Allies.

No idea, I'll find out in a few hours.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 05, 2012, 11:38:09 PM
Anyone know anything on this one?

http://www.hfdgames.com/zfvkg.html

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hfdgames.com%2Fzfvkg%2FZV_cover1.jpg&hash=eb8565961bf4363c39c68d0663c52274a2e30501)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 06, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
HFD is a Paul Rohrbaugh joint and, universally, his games are condemned among anyone who actually wants a fun/serious wargame.  Avoid at all costs.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 06, 2012, 02:10:12 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 06, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
HFD is a Paul Rohrbaugh joint and, universally, his games are condemned among anyone who actually wants a fun/serious wargame.  Avoid at all costs.

Thank ya
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 06, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 06, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
HFD is a Paul Rohrbaugh joint and, universally, his games are condemned among anyone who actually wants a fun/serious wargame.  Avoid at all costs.

Forgive me I just seen his name on this.  :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic137260_md.jpg&hash=34b77389fec054252980861018cc4d3f0a20f4a9)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on February 07, 2012, 05:27:35 AM
Hey Habs, I have been playing two games of Few Acres as the Brits against random Yucata folk and both French-playing fuckers insisted on a zerg rush of sieges and raids.

Now I understand that they are using it to good effect right now, since I have been trying to both block them and expand on the sides which isnt really working out, but is this really a viable French strategy? It must be godawful boring, but effective? The Brits have tons more military cards and easier income sources.

It is fuckin' annoying.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 08, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
ZOMG HES TINKERING WITH A GAME THAT DOESNT ACCOMPLISH WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO!!!!! THE HORROR!!!! :GASP: HE MIGHT FIX IT.

Some of those people at CSW..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 10, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
Still F'ing with Guards Tank. Working on a focused Prokhorovka scenario with JM's go ahead. Here's a map showing the general deployment guidelines for the 10 July '43 start. In order for the whole game to work, partially at least, it needs a map extension off the west edge.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.consimworld.com%2FWebX%3F233%40%40.1dd4b7fd%2F144%21enclosure%3D.1dd63be5&hash=b6c9a6a81f15c5d4f6e90fd090246fee0dcf68d2)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
Friggin' Grognard Sims is pushing out more product than I can keep up with.  DEATH RIDE: PAYPAL
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 10, 2012, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
Friggin' Grognard Sims is pushing out more product than I can keep up with.  DEATH RIDE: PAYPAL

Yea, I'm starting to get a Arab-Israeli itch. Looking at their Armored Knights series for that.

I told Chris on CSW that whaen the II SS Panzer sector is out it's as good as bought.

Anyway just got back from the print shop. Printed the custom Arnhem map on heavy stock paper. Looks fantastic.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419451_3191409555352_1569276284_32913212_1731991670_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Hansmeister on February 11, 2012, 09:43:32 AM
Hey, does anyone still play ASL?  Is it still good, or are there better systems out there for that type of small-scale scenarios?  Just before I deployed I discovered a new gaming store which was big on ASL and wondered if it is still a very good system to get into.

On a related note, I brought a bunch of boardgames, of a lighter note, with me in hopes of playing it here but no luck so far.  My FOB is very small.   I brought Mansion of Madness, Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game, Lord of the Rings Card Game, Arkham Horror, City of Thieves, Zombies!!!, and the Gears of War Board Game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2012, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 11, 2012, 09:43:32 AM
Hey, does anyone still play ASL?  Is it still good, or are there better systems out there for that type of small-scale scenarios?  Just before I deployed I discovered a new gaming store which was big on ASL and wondered if it is still a very good system to get into.

It's beginning to see a bit of a renaissance the last couple years;  MMP has begun republishing the "core" modules, as so much stuff has been out of print for so long. 
I was at Winter Offensive a few weeks ago, and the "all we play is ASL" crowd is still going strong.

And, they're working on a Historical ASL module to bring it into the Korean War.

As far as squad-level tactical goes, I don't think anything else really touches it for level of depth.  GMT's system Combat Commander seems pretty popular, but I haven't picked up any of those titles yet.

QuoteOn a related note, I brought a bunch of boardgames, of a lighter note, with me in hopes of playing it here but no luck so far.  My FOB is very small.   I brought Mansion of Madness, Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game, Lord of the Rings Card Game, Arkham Horror, City of Thieves, Zombies!!!, and the Gears of War Board Game.

Give it a few more weeks, and I'm sure the guys will be screaming for things to do out of boredom.  You just got there yourself not too long ago, right?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Hansmeister on February 11, 2012, 10:41:26 AM
I got here a little over a month ago.  I found one person who would play, but he is on R&R now.  Yesterday I ran into an old friend from my days in Somalia who just got back in the Army after an 16-year break who would be willing to play.  Most of the people here are currently rotating out of country so I have to have a look at the new guys coming in, or are a bunch of LTC and COL that wouldn't want to be seen playing a game even if they liked it due to peer pressure.

But our post is currently shrinking down to about 100 Soldiers so it'll be slim pickings.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 11, 2012, 06:49:09 PM
I actually hate this more than counter clipping.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Firefly: The Complete Season?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 11, 2012, 08:06:28 PM
I SEE SS RUNES
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on February 11, 2012, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2012, 10:20:50 AM

As far as squad-level tactical goes, I don't think anything else really touches it for level of depth.  GMT's system Combat Commander seems pretty popular, but I haven't picked up any of those titles yet.

Combat Commander is pretty good, but isn't designed to have the same detail or scope (strictly small infantry units, no AFVs, other vehicles or medium/large on map field pieces).  It captures the chaos of such situations very well, but is abstracted at several points where ASL would drive into maddening detail.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on February 12, 2012, 09:25:50 AM
That's a lot of snipers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 12, 2012, 10:49:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 11, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Firefly: The Complete Season?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.icanhascheezburger.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2009%2F3%2F15%2F128816036168098422.jpg&hash=8a9185de69839354721032ab7a335f8afe400e94)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 13, 2012, 08:03:22 PM
More counter cutting fun. Actually I like making the counter sheets. Just not cutting them.

Look Ed, PC friendly (SS). :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 13, 2012, 08:09:43 PM
Damn Scout Snipers!



:P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 15, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
My constructed counters can be used as weapons in case your opponent pisses you off.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 17, 2012, 09:35:25 PM
I think I have reached my max level of practical thickness for counters. What ya think? 

L to R
1st & 2nd column(from the Debrecen game): Lastest game batch. Kind of thick, but easy to pick up.

3rd column(from Operation Sonnenwende game): More standard thickness.

4th column(from EndKampf: Ostpreussen game): Industry standard.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 17, 2012, 10:41:15 PM
Those on the left, I had no idea bath tiles came in those schemes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 17, 2012, 10:44:39 PM
 :lol: It's the Panzer and Guards pattern.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 18, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
But, anywho I need to start experimenting maybe with a top coat. Just got to do some research as to witch is best. I will probably settle on a counter thickness between columns 1-2 & 3.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 20, 2012, 01:55:49 AM
Damn those SS their petroleum jelly.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on February 24, 2012, 09:46:08 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wargamer.com%2Ffiles%2Fusers%2F47536%2Fpic1243990_md.jpg&hash=50dad632ff24e5f4ed8d95e92d5cef839b4dd322)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 24, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
 :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PRC on February 24, 2012, 11:51:47 AM
I found a copy of Axis & Allies at a Value Village (yes, I scavenge thrift stores for board games, sometimes you get a gem) for 6 bucks the other day so I picked it up.  I had a copy in my teenage years.  Sure it ain't high strategy but at that price i'll take it for the box art.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 24, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: PRC on February 24, 2012, 11:51:47 AM
(yes, I scavenge thrift stores for board games, sometimes you get a gem)

Damned right you do.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 26, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
Iran and Iraq square in the Battle of the Punch Drunk Retards.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1248606.jpg&hash=6bbfadf1a21e96532d12b3cfe9c934ac30ee1ec3)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 12:42:05 AM
You know, you get a CRT shift for using 12 year olds to sweep minefields.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 01:03:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 12:42:05 AM
You know, you get a CRT shift for using 12 year olds to sweep minefields.

:D

Moore has some interesting stuff in this one. The review for Guderian's Last Gamble is just about ready for BGG. This one will follow.

For some reason I have an itch for the conflict. Finally found a copy of S&T's Ignorant Armies from fine games.

On the hunt for any AIW mods for the Iran/Iraq War.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 01:03:18 AM
On the hunt for any AIW mods for the Iran/Iraq War.

Honestly, I don't think there is.
I seem to remember an issue of The General that had an expansion for the '82 Lebanon invasion for AIW, but nothing I can recall on War of The Retards.  Which is interesting, since it had the largest armored battles of the post-WW2 era.

Check Grognards?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 01:13:38 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 01:03:18 AM
On the hunt for any AIW mods for the Iran/Iraq War.

Honestly, I don't think there is.
I seem to remember an issue of The General that had an expansion for the '82 Lebanon invasion for AIW, but nothing I can recall on War of The Retards.  Which is interesting, since it had the largest armored battles of the post-WW2 era.

Check Grognards?

I will. I reading the 600 page tome,The Lessons of Modern War III, The Iran Iraq War right now. Really good BTW, but it's  :lol: :huh: :lmfao: :huh: :wacko:.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Speaking of tomes, I just started Grant's Memoirs.  What a fascinating man.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 02:07:08 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Speaking of tomes, I just started Grant's Memoirs.  What a fascinating man.

Wonder how sober he was. :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 02:07:58 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 27, 2012, 02:07:08 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Speaking of tomes, I just started Grant's Memoirs.  What a fascinating man.

Wonder how sober he was. :D

That'll be enough of that, soldier.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Hansmeister on February 27, 2012, 05:25:09 AM
Just played the Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game.  A quick, fun game.  I'm going to try to play Mansion of Madness this Thursday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Martim Silva on February 27, 2012, 09:24:09 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 27, 2012, 05:25:09 AM
Just played the Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game.  A quick, fun game.  I'm going to try to play Mansion of Madness this Thursday.

Check the MoM FAQ and try to get the updated cards. Many are misprinted and many scenarios in the original are broken (you need to correct them with the Errata).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 01, 2012, 12:20:51 AM
More contributions to Noble Knight. Helping to supprt small business.

Products Quantity  Unit Price  Total
#67 w/Stonewall (VG) (Magazine)

#85 w/Fighting Sail (EX) (Magazine)

Chechnya - The Russian Bear Attack, 1999 (MINT/New) (Ziplock)

Kursk in Normandy - Operation Goodwood, 1944 (MINT/New) (Ziplock)

Liberty Roads (SW (MINT/New)) (Boxed Game)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Today's payday, and while I'm sandbagging for the inevitable "redundancies" thing, that doesn't preclude me from sending Chris Fasulo's kids to college.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 02, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
I noticed Bunker Hill is going out of business.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 02, 2012, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Today's payday, and while I'm sandbagging for the inevitable "redundancies" thing, that doesn't preclude me from sending Chris Fasulo's kids to college.

What you get.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on March 04, 2012, 06:00:22 AM
Pre-ordered 1989 and Virgin Queen from GMT.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2012, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 02, 2012, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Today's payday, and while I'm sandbagging for the inevitable "redundancies" thing, that doesn't preclude me from sending Chris Fasulo's kids to college.

What you get.

I hadn't decided, but I was going to catch up with the few outstanding titles.
Of course, that was before Verizon took a dump on me this weekend.  <_<  OMG A BOOK? WTF?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2012, 10:42:25 PM
The Wargamer.com starts the Awards season.

QuoteIt is with great pleasure that we here at Wargamer would like to present our awards to the games that have made an impact on not only the staff here but also the wargame community. After the votes were tallied, it was evident how much of a competition these games have played in our minds and hearts. So here it is, the Game of the Year 2011 Awards!

Best PC Wargame of 2011 – Community Award

Let us start off with the Gold Community Award, which goes to Battlefront.com's Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy! This tactical wargame focuses on the campaign in western France three months after the Normandy landings in 1944. With authentic rural and urban landscape, historically-correct weapons and uniforms, as well as the new and improved Tactical AI system, Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy evidently made itself at home in wargamer's computers. Congratulations!

Earning the Silver Community Award is Matrix Games/Slitherine's Panzer Corps. The spiritual heir to classic Panzer General series, Panzer Corps quickly became a favorite amongst the community. After two years of development by a team of dedicated experts known as The Lordz Games Studio and the help of the community, Panzer Corps evolved into a game that makes it easy to get into and play a strategy game with combined-arms tactics, but a wargame that will still be a challenge to all comers. Congratulations!

Grabbing the Bronze Community Award for 2011 is another Matrix Games/Slitherine title by Wastelands Interactive: Time of Fury. It is no surprise that Time of Fury made it into the Community Awards, especially for a wargame that covers the entire European theater during World War II. With a game that gives players the full opportunity to control all types of units, from ground to air to sea, but also pick a single country or a group and lead them to victory or stave off defeat to the very end during the war, Time of Fury earned its place.

Best Boardgame of 2011 – Community Award

The Wargamer Community made their voice heard very clearly when they voted for A Few Acres of Snow to the top for the Gold Community Award! A two-player card game that encourages a lot of thinking and tactics, especially a game set during the struggle between France and Britain for control of Canada. Congratulations Treefrog Games for taking home the gold!

The Silver Community Award actually goes to two games, after reaching a tie that was sure would be hard to break; we decided to give them both the award! Field Commander: Napoleon by DVG and No Retreat! Deluxe Edition by GMT Games earned their position in the community awards. Both offer up fantastic artwork for units and their playing boards, as well as their in-depth rulebooks to provide countless hours of strategic tabletop action. Congratulations to both!

We also have another tie, this time for the Bronze Boardgame Community Award! Decision Games' Axis Empires - Dai Senso! and Grognard Simulations' Armored Knights – Operation Gazelle earned their awards from the community for capturing wargamer's tactical and strategic minds during the World War II period, on opposite theaters of war! With Armored Knights small learning curve and Axis Empires' large-scale gameplay, it is no surprise they made it into the awards for 2011. Congratulations!

We also decided to have Wargamer staff pick out their favorite wargames of 2011, presented here as "Editor's Choice"! We would also like to thank the Wargamer staff for helping us pick out these games, and offer our congratulations to the winners for being the top wargames in our minds!

Best PC Wargame of 2011 – Editor's Choice

Panzer Corps captured the attention of not only the community, but the staff here at Wargamer. What more can be said about this triple A title that scratches the itch for Panzer General fans? We would like to offer our Gold Editor's Choice Award to Matrix Games/Slitherine and The Lordz Games Studio for Panzer Corps! Congratulations!

Snagging the Silver Editor's Choice Award is also another title from Matrix Games/Slitherine: Advanced Tactics: Gold. It should be no surprise as it offers up everything that the staff at Wargamer enjoys, such as a well-done scenario editor for community-made scenarios, a versatile engine for us to simulate different aspects of warfare; all of which just gives us the replayability we all want. Congratulations to Matrix Games/Slitherine and the developer VR Designs!

The Bronze Editor's Choice Award goes to Sega's Total War: Shogun 2, developed by The Creative Assembly, one of the most-anticipated releases in the Total War series. Some of the Wargamer staff expressed their liking towards Shogun 2, especially for the combination of turn-based strategy with the challenge of real-time tactical battles during feudal Japan. Complete with a well-establishing modding community, Total War: Shogun 2 has definitely earned its spot in the Editor's Choice Awards. Congratulations!

Best Boardgame of 2011 – Editor's Choice

Oddly enough, the awards for the Editor's Choice Awards line up with what the community decided! It goes to show that the Wargamer staff are in tune with the wargame community and generally have the same interests, and so we'd like to reiterate our congratulations to the winners!

Gold Editor's Choice: A Few Acres of Snow
Silver Editor's Choice: Field Commander: Napoleon and No Retreat! Deluxe Edition
Bronze Editor's Choice: Armored Knights – Operation Gazelle and Axis Empires - Dai Senso!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2012, 02:19:33 PM
Who was it that asked about my copy of TSR's Air War?  Was it you, EleventyBee?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 12, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
I have a copy. Great game, played the shit out of it back in the day.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2012, 01:06:31 PM
Well, somebody was asking about it a while back.  Whoever wants it, lemme know.  I'm thinking about thinning the herd of some titles.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 14, 2012, 08:02:54 PM
Anybody order the new title from Avalanche Press, Frontier Battles of 1866 (http://www.avalanchepress.com/game1866Frontier.php)? 
Ed, I know contrary to good taste, you order stuff from AP.  You get this?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on March 14, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 14, 2012, 08:02:54 PM
Anybody order the new title from Avalanche Press

:lmfao:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on March 14, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
Meanwhile, soon-to-come from MMP :

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25900/kingdom-of-heaven-the-crusader-states-1097-1291-ad

Kingdom of Heaven, a CDG covering a wide variety of the wars in the Crusading era ("Nine scenarios cover all the major campaigns of the era, from the First, Second and Third Crusades to the Mongol invasion and the rise of the Mamluk Empire.")

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2Fkoh.jpg&hash=320ed6fd7a11290fe6f55ff1afa4f6241c8caff2)

And...

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4688/angola

Angola, an awesome game covering the fun segment of the Angolan Civil War.  Cubans and South Africans and tanks, oh, my.  It's a reprint that's got new artwork and incorporates some minor changes, but otherwise remains the same game.  Berkut can stump for this one as well since he's played it.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2Fangola.jpg&hash=13f1c6981e3614e646e5ba52e6666f2693a48977)

Both are in production and should be shipping relatively soon.  The pre-order price is still available for both.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2Femot-fappery.gif&hash=58bf8e81edcc38a410b21b8eaddfad0a7dd13af5)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 15, 2012, 12:30:37 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 14, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 14, 2012, 08:02:54 PM
Anybody order the new title from Avalanche Press

:lmfao:

Give em credit, it's not Great War at Sea--The Imperial Navy: What If There Were No Nazis in WW2?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 29, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
Hilarious.

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/744696/breakthrough-cambrai/page/1
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on March 29, 2012, 11:51:04 AM
Yeah, Rinella's a piece of shit.  I rated the game a '1' with a 'Meh' comment a few days ago.  I was promptly gifted .10 GeekGold for my efforts.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 01, 2012, 12:57:41 PM
Considering how much of a shithole Consimworld and BGG are, I don't blame the man a bit for being grumpy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 01, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
Heh, Joe Kuhler's even got a "Rules Lawyer" microbadge.  Heh, like shit like that wouldn't be noticed by him;  and he's called a lying douche for his efforts in calling a duck a duck.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 01, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
Ugh, rules lawyers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 01, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 01, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
Ugh, rules lawyers.

HEY NOW  :mad:  THATS WHY THEY ARE THERE: TO ARGUE ABOUT
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 01, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 29, 2012, 11:51:04 AM
Yeah, Rinella's a piece of shit.  I rated the game a '1' with a 'Meh' comment a few days ago.  I was promptly gifted .10 GeekGold for my efforts.  :lol:

I'm telling you, Languishites don't know the meaning of the term "nasty forum" until they take a spin around CSW or BGG.  Holy fucksticks.  It's worse than academia.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 09:28:55 PM
Hey 11B, Chris has pushed out the Air Support and Artillery Support supplements for Death Ride Kursk.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 05, 2012, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 09:28:55 PM
Hey 11B, Chris has pushed out the Air Support and Artillery Support supplements for Death Ride Kursk.

:punk: Thanks it will be on order.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 14, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
Meanwhile, soon-to-come from MMP :

They do seem to be on schedule to pump out quite a few products in 2012, a few more titles than they've done the last couple years.  The GTS title on the French Foreign Legion is on its way, and I believe the OCS title for Case Yellow should be out this year, as well as their monster on the Sino-Japanese conflict, which should be awesome as balls.

Personally, I have been waiting a couple years for Angola.  I want my fucking Jonas Savimbi counter.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 05, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
The best part is that most of MMP's stuff looks like it might actually be fun to play.  I have way more stuff on pre-order from them than I do from GMT, for example, including just about everything of the stuff you mentioned.

Legion of Honour is supposed to be out, soonish, too...

I also found a decent player's copy of Flat Top.  The idea of it sounds intriguing, at least.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 05, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
The best part is that most of MMP's stuff looks like it might actually be fun to play.

Yeah, and comparatively actually playable in a sitting or two.  Surprisingly for all you smart asses, we've managed to knock out a few drops of Tide at Sunrise and King Philip's War;  Angola is another that can conceivably get knocked out in a night, and it looks like a lot more titles are going that way with them:  digestible and playable in short time frames.

QuoteLegion of Honour is supposed to be out, soonish, too...

I don't know what the hold-up is on that, other than the big dust-up over the cover art last year;  but I know it was of paramount economic importance for Charlie to push Moscowa out the door.

QuoteI also found a decent player's copy of Flat Top.  The idea of it sounds intriguing, at least.

Flat Top is definitely one of the all time greatest carrier games, ever.  Best played with an umpire for orders and combat results, though.  Ratchets up the tension something fucking fierce.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 05, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Oh I got the notice that they are going to be charging for Virgin Queen orders.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 05, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
QuoteI want my fucking Jonas Savimbi counter.
:thumbsup:


I wonder if a counter for Costas Georgiou will be in the mix.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Oh I got the notice that they are going to be charging for Virgin Queen orders.

That's the damned thing about the board game industry in the day and age;  because of such limited print runs, you need to snatch up titles that you could conceivably want, even if you don't want it know--because you can't wait two years for it to finally intrigue you, as it'll be gone or tough to find.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 05, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 10:24:44 PM
Yeah, and comparatively actually playable in a sitting or two.  Surprisingly for all you smart asses, we've managed to knock out a few drops of Tide at Sunrise and King Philip's War;  Angola is another that can conceivably get knocked out in a night, and it looks like a lot more titles are going that way with them:  digestible and playable in short time frames.

I don't know what the hold-up is on that, other than the big dust-up over the cover art last year;  but I know it was of paramount economic importance for Charlie to push Moscowa out the door.

Flat Top is definitely one of the all time greatest carrier games, ever.  Best played with an umpire for orders and combat results, though.  Ratchets up the tension something fucking fierce.

Angola is definitely playable in a night.  Call it 5-6 hours, longer if no one's read the rules aforehand.  Once you get the sequence down, it flows very quickly and is a lot of fun.

As for LoH, the hold-up for a long time was apparently personal stuff with the designer, but that seems to be cleared up now.  I remember seeing card proofs and such at WBC last year, so I was surprised it didn't come out very swiftly afterwards.

Flat Top is going to be a game I try to get in at a convention, hopefully with 3 people--1 umpire.  Seeing someone 'guess' wrong on where to commit would be too fun to miss.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 05, 2012, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Oh I got the notice that they are going to be charging for Virgin Queen orders.

If you hurry, you might still be able to get your very own t-shirt!  I mean, who wouldn't want a purple "Virgin Queen" shirt?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.consimworld.com%2FWebX%3F233%40%40.1dd547a8%2F415%21enclosure%3D.1dd6c992&hash=63a370f60973bd9a768c0fd3f3ebe4045463ea61)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 05, 2012, 10:57:55 PM
Maybe if Virgin Queen was on the front. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 04:02:19 AM
A few questions regarding the Virgin Queen:

-when is it shipping
-will we be able to PBEM it without everyone having a copy
-when are we doing the first PBEM?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 04:02:19 AM
A few questions regarding the Virgin Queen:

-when is it shipping

If they're already charging for it, it's because they've got the product in the production cycle, so I'd expect definitely within the next two (?) months.

Quote-will we be able to PBEM it without everyone having a copy
-when are we doing the first PBEM?

Lolz.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 11, 2012, 07:48:45 AM
Tamas got us to play that Battlestar Galactica game and no one but him had a copy (i believe).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 07:53:22 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 11, 2012, 07:48:45 AM
Tamas got us to play that Battlestar Galactica game and no one but him had a copy (i believe).

Yes, so CdM, STFU :P

Also we had a bunch of people here playing HiS, either too poor to afford the game (Jaron, FB), living in a backward hellhole (Martinus), or because the box wasn't pink enough (Martinus).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: ulmont on April 11, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 07:53:22 AM
Also we had a bunch of people here playing HiS, either too poor to afford the game (Jaron, FB), living in a backward hellhole (Martinus), or because the box wasn't pink enough (Martinus).

After reading the rules for Virgin Queen, I think it's too chromed out and with too many responses to be a whole lot of PBEM fun.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 08:23:31 AM
Quote from: ulmont on April 11, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 07:53:22 AM
Also we had a bunch of people here playing HiS, either too poor to afford the game (Jaron, FB), living in a backward hellhole (Martinus), or because the box wasn't pink enough (Martinus).

After reading the rules for Virgin Queen, I think it's too chromed out and with too many responses to be a whole lot of PBEM fun.

:(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 11, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: ulmont on April 11, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2012, 07:53:22 AM
Also we had a bunch of people here playing HiS, either too poor to afford the game (Jaron, FB), living in a backward hellhole (Martinus), or because the box wasn't pink enough (Martinus).

After reading the rules for Virgin Queen, I think it's too chromed out and with too many responses to be a whole lot of PBEM fun.

Any new mechanism in particular?

I definitely would agree the patronage thing seems completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 11, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/847271320/ogre-designers-edition

I just got a boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: ulmont on April 11, 2012, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 11, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Any new mechanism in particular?

I definitely would agree the patronage thing seems completely unnecessary.

IIRC the treasure resolution was what really bugged me, but it's been a little while since I looked at it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 11, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/847271320/ogre-designers-edition

I just got a boner.

Steve Jackson Games is a lot like Friedrich Nietzche:  fun in high school and college, but you grow out of it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 12, 2012, 07:28:18 AM
 :lol:

Sorta like re-reading Elric when I was 35. I LIKED THIS SHIT?!?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:09:31 AM
Somebody got their copy:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.consimworld.com%2FWebX%3F233%40%40.ee6bb77%2F64318%21enclosure%3D.1dd6da32&hash=f3e3ed72ec373564b86eac95706f1d757cd0a0e4)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.

At least it actually fits on a table.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.

At least it actually fits on a table.

like you need to worry about that
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.

At least it actually fits on a table.

like you need to worry about that

Fuck you, you filthy fucking gypsy.  At least I have a table.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.

At least it actually fits on a table.

like you need to worry about that

Fuck you, you filthy fucking gypsy.  At least I have a table.

I have a huge table.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 12, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 12, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
Map sucks.

At least it actually fits on a table.

like you need to worry about that

Fuck you, you filthy fucking gypsy.  At least I have a table.

I have a huge table.

Who'd ya steal it from LOLOLOLOL HOHOHOHOHOHO PW3ND
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on April 12, 2012, 01:29:35 PM
The Balkan countries are not represented with enough detail and not enough mention of their glorious history. PYRAMIDS IN BOSNIA
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 12, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Next on Sand in the Vagina at BGG....

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/789374/this-is-how-complaints-against-sexism-are-treated/page/1
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 08:03:20 AM
Big Brown Truck should be bringing Daddy some more stuff from Grognards.  Yay.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 13, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Funagain has a bunch of shit on sale. There might be a wargame in the list. I'm too lazy to look.

http://www.funagain.com/control/catalogsearch?&category_id=CLEANING_SALE_2012&sort_order=SortProductField:productName;Y&list_type=list&view_size=10&view_index=0&show_unavailable=N#pagecontent
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 13, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Funagain has a bunch of shit on sale. There might be a wargame in the list. I'm too lazy to look.

http://www.funagain.com/control/catalogsearch?&category_id=CLEANING_SALE_2012&sort_order=SortProductField:productName;Y&list_type=list&view_size=10&view_index=0&show_unavailable=N#pagecontent

LOL just a shitload of those tiny Decision Games, and the wildly popular D&D 4th edition.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on April 13, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 12, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Next on Sand in the Vagina at BGG....

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/789374/this-is-how-complaints-against-sexism-are-treated/page/1
QuoteOne of the reasons the wargame hobby is so dominated by men is that many of them use misogynistic language and interact with women in such a way that the women feel (to put it mildly) uncomfortable and unwelcome. Believe me, as a wargamer of several decades, I have seen much of this.

I am not saying that it doesn't happen in other boardgame genres (even in the international chess tournament, for example), or other hobbies, because, unfortunately, it does, and sometimes with extreme viciousness (like in the video game communities). But it definitely does happen here, and perhaps the reason some men do not particularly notice is because it does not affect them personally so it is not important to them. They only notice what they consider unreasonable responses from women because the women's comments, because they target men, do seem personal enough to notice (if not to believe).

One of the personal attacks I had was from someone saying that I should quit being such a crybaby (I was not crying, BTW, I was reacting with rage) over the sexist comments here because it is everywhere so I should get used it and quit being so sensitive. NO, I won't. I will not excuse and overlook such disgusting behavior from men who will not act with courtesy and respect towards others. Most men have no idea what it is like to have have to put up with insulting remarks no matter where you go. For example, to be reading a thread about some aspect of a favorite hobby, and have it turn into a sexist joke, or to have recurring posts about how they don't belong there or can't possibly be a part of it (or that they are too stupid to understand it) because of their sexual gender.

The pervasiveness occurs when one person posts something sexist and then other men join in with "jokes" or even worse posts agreeing with it or expanding on it. If a woman dares to comment in protest, then she is attacked and bullied and told that she is over-reacting, over-sensitive, and a cry-baby (which are personal attacks, BTW). If she actually gets angry, she is told that she is being unfair and ruining the thread (which is already off-topic because of the sexist posts, but none of the male posters or admins seemed to think that was a problem), and perhaps even gets punished for "personal attacks" (but the personal attacks against her were not acknowledged). Also, vulgar language or derisive comments about men are met with horror and outrage, but almost no one (except the few women who can stand to still stay in this disgusting atmosphere) is outraged and horrified by the common usage here of vulgarities referring to women or the sexist comments and "humor".

So, it's very funny that you haven't noticed the pervasive misogyny, Roger, since you are the Wargames Forum Admin, and it is part of your responsibilities to uphold the BGG Forum Rules, one of which forbids posting of bigotry of any sort.
It's even more funny, since you have had geekmails from women concerning this very problem. (EDIT: See Roger's post below for a correction of this statement)

In any case, the sexism here has already driven off several women that I know of, and caused a couple more to reconsider posting here. So, why don't women play wargames? They do, they just don't like hanging out in a place where sexism is not only tolerated but enjoyed. They don't like being belittled, made fun of, and propositioned, (and attacked if they protest) just because they are female gamers.
:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 06:41:23 PM
Damn.  In after da lock.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2012, 06:41:44 PM
While overwrought, not sure I see anything wrong with the sentiment.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2012, 06:41:44 PM
While overwrought, not sure I see anything wrong with the sentiment.

The comical part is, he's addressing the "pervasive misogyny" of female wargamers.

Now, I've been to my share of wargame conventions, and in all honesty, I've only seen one Panzer pusher with tits.  Ever.  And that was Origins '85.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 13, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
However, I've seen plenty of wargamers with tits. All male.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 13, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
However, I've seen plenty of wargamers with tits. All male.

HEY NOW
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Speaking of internet brouhahas, gotta check out the "Line of Battle Series (was RSS) (MMP/The Gamers)" thread over at CSW.

Nothing like Confederatards squealing over Lee at Gettysburg.  OMG WHAT IF HE ARRIVED 3 HOURS EARLIER THE FATE OF TEH NATION WAWS AT HAND
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 14, 2012, 01:57:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2012, 06:41:44 PM
While overwrought, not sure I see anything wrong with the sentiment.

The comical part is, he's addressing the "pervasive misogyny" of female wargamers.

Now, I've been to my share of wargame conventions, and in all honesty, I've only seen one Panzer pusher with tits.  Ever.  And that was Origins '85.

She.  She's also the infamous Beer Lady of WBC.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 14, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Speaking of internet brouhahas, gotta check out the "Line of Battle Series (was RSS) (MMP/The Gamers)" thread over at CSW.

Nothing like Confederatards squealing over Lee at Gettysburg.  OMG WHAT IF HE ARRIVED 3 HOURS EARLIER THE FATE OF TEH NATION WAWS AT HAND

It bothers them so much that they cant pull a victory out of it and their beloved Lee was out generaled.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2012, 02:11:20 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 14, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Speaking of internet brouhahas, gotta check out the "Line of Battle Series (was RSS) (MMP/The Gamers)" thread over at CSW.

Nothing like Confederatards squealing over Lee at Gettysburg.  OMG WHAT IF HE ARRIVED 3 HOURS EARLIER THE FATE OF TEH NATION WAWS AT HAND

It bothers them so much that they cant pull a victory out of it and their beloved Lee was out generaled.

Makes me want to change my avatar to Sherman with the tag "Yeah, I burn little gray counters"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 14, 2012, 03:01:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 13, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Funagain has a bunch of shit on sale. There might be a wargame in the list. I'm too lazy to look.

http://www.funagain.com/control/catalogsearch?&category_id=CLEANING_SALE_2012&sort_order=SortProductField:productName;Y&list_type=list&view_size=10&view_index=0&show_unavailable=N#pagecontent

How about, The Campaigns of King David:
http://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=017000

and, The Halls of Montezuma?
http://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=019737
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on April 17, 2012, 06:07:07 PM
QuoteShipping:  We will begin shipping P500 orders of both 1989 and Virgin Queen on Tuesday, May 1.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2012, 07:23:10 PM
My copy of Amateurs To Arms should be here Wednesday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 17, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Every day that I don't have War of the Suns or Kingdom of Heaven hurts me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 17, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Every day that I don't have War of the Suns or Kingdom of Heaven hurts me.

Soon, grasshopper.  Soon.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 01:45:23 AM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-401-when-eagles-fight.aspx



:mmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 07:55:50 AM
Hhhmmmm...turns represent 1 to 2 months?  I dunno...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 08:04:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 07:55:50 AM
Hhhmmmm...turns represent 1 to 2 months?  I dunno...

Well, it does cover the entire war. And I have a severe WW1 fetish, yet I was too scared to order that monster game about 1914 in the Eastern Front. Looked unplayably huge.

This one, appears more accessible. It doesn't include bitchslapping ROMAnians around, but so be it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 08:04:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 07:55:50 AM
Hhhmmmm...turns represent 1 to 2 months?  I dunno...

Well, it does cover the entire war. And I have a severe WW1 fetish, yet I was too scared to order that monster game about 1914 in the Eastern Front. Looked unplayably huge.

This one, appears more accessible. It doesn't include bitchslapping ROMAnians around, but so be it.

True, it does have that as an attraction: the entire length of the war.  And yeah, 1914 is a filthy fucking beast.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 18, 2012, 08:18:36 AM
I had the old Command WWI games. Loved the 1918 stormtroopers western front one.

Don't even remember playing the east front ones.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Also, while I am fairly certain it will not deal with politics and diplomacy and shit (La Grande Guerre still reigns supreme on a full-scale simulation of the conflict), the East Front is cool because the whole dying old world empires duking it out is so much more apparent there, especially with hindsight.

Those 3 huge machines of war, putting like 7-9 nationalities against each other in varying setups, all 3 to be gone by the time the smoke clears. Fascinating.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 18, 2012, 08:23:28 AM
This is what I want.....

http://www.gmtgames.com/p-400-wellington-in-india.aspx
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 08:28:59 AM
Massacring Indians sounds fun, but the game must be a bore.

Tactical battles are for the PC in this day and age.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 08:28:59 AM
Tactical battles are for the PC in this day and age.

Nonsense.  Victoria Cross II rocks, Boots On The Ground is beer and popcorn fun, and classics like Little Big Horn and Remember Gordon! still work.

And the new tactical series on the ACW from Victory Point definitely seems promising.

AND LETS NOT FORGET ASL
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 08:49:10 AM
Speaking of Tactical and GMT, they need to start getting their asses in gear with Panzer.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 18, 2012, 08:50:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 08:49:10 AM
Speaking of Tactical and GMT, they need to start getting their asses in gear with Panzer.

You can always get the Excalibre version. Enjoy the 1980 graphics.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 18, 2012, 10:11:55 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 17, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Every day that I don't have War of the Suns

Wasn't that put off indefinitely because of the the great counter design controversy?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 18, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 18, 2012, 01:45:23 AM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-401-when-eagles-fight.aspx



:mmm:

Ted Raicer turd that he crapped out 20 years ago?  Pass.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 18, 2012, 10:36:49 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 18, 2012, 10:11:55 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 17, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Every day that I don't have War of the Suns

Wasn't that put off indefinitely because of the the great counter design controversy?

Nah, it was put off definitely so they could rejigger the counters.  It's back in the production queue, though it will be a few more months until release.  The current schedule for MMP looks like this :

QuoteNo Question of Surrender - parts are in house and waiting for collation
Angola - slightly ahead of KoH, card decks due in next week, all other bits at various printers
Kingdom of Heaven - this and Angola could flip flop
The Blitzkrieg Legend
Kawaguchi's Gamble: Edson's Ridge
France '40 (somewhere mixed in above depending on how counters fit)
It Never Snows...
War of the Suns
Special Ops #3 (in time for WBC first week in August)
Stonewall Jackson's Way II
Storm Over Dien Bien Phu
Storm Over Normandy

So, hypothetically it will be out in time for WBC (late July/early August).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 18, 2012, 10:36:49 AM
So, hypothetically it will be out in time for WBC (late July/early August).

Too late for Origins, but yeah, I don't think they'd want to miss out on the sales for WBC.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 18, 2012, 03:07:34 PM
One can hope.  If it's out in time, I might just spend the majority of WBC playing it and KoH.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2012, 03:51:21 PM
Amateurs To Arms showed up.  Fantastic production value, as usual from COA.  And any chance to kill Brits is worth it.  FORT MCHENRY REPRASENT
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 19, 2012, 01:03:14 AM
PLayed that tonight with Nels. I liked it a lot - the rules are kind of....loose though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 19, 2012, 06:38:41 PM
YOU PEOPLE PUT ME BACK INTO A BUYING MOOD. I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL SUMMER.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 19, 2012, 01:03:14 AM
PLayed that tonight with Nels. I liked it a lot - the rules are kind of....loose though.

It was a loose kinda war.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 19, 2012, 06:38:41 PM
YOU PEOPLE PUT ME BACK INTO A BUYING MOOD. I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL SUMMER.  :(

That's when they all pile up, man.  Too many titles being released this year.  You have to pace yourself.

I just ordered No Question of Surrender and Strike of Eagles today.  I have an addiction.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 19, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 19, 2012, 01:03:14 AM
PLayed that tonight with Nels. I liked it a lot - the rules are kind of....loose though.

Elaborate.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 19, 2012, 07:26:56 PM
Boardgaming in the news again :

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/19/to_infinity_and_beyond
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 19, 2012, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Strike of Eagles today.

Do you mean Strike of the Eagle, the Polish-Soviet War block game?  If so, that's a good pick, at least from my limited playings (a few scenarios, one of which Berkut was in).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 19, 2012, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Strike of Eagles today.

Do you mean Strike of the Eagle, the Polish-Soviet War block game?  If so, that's a good pick, at least from my limited playings (a few scenarios, one of which Berkut was in).

Yeah, typing too fast.  I met Uwe last year and he had emailed me a draft of the rules, but I only now got to it in my batting order.  The mechanics read really well, but I haven't been able to manhandle it. 
Not too thrilled with the map, but that's cosmetic.

Really not enough titles on that fascinating conflict.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 19, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
ARGH. Will to resist...fading.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 10:10:29 PM
DO IT DO IT DO IT.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 07:52:27 AM
Dammit. I'm poking through Worthington's catalog.

Fuckers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on April 20, 2012, 07:59:48 AM
Fuck you all. I have decided to not buy any more games until late this year the earliest. I have way too many shit I never played, even with having access to a decent-sized gaming group.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 08:01:31 AM
I blame Seedy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 07:52:27 AM
Dammit. I'm poking through Worthington's catalog.

Fuckers.

Definitely get Victoria's Cross II.  Best system to bayonet darkies with since 3W's Rorke's Drift.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 12:44:05 PM
I'll upload the rules onto dropbox and read them on the can later with my iPad.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Ordered:

Mercury / Market Garden (A Rinella game just for tha haters)
VC II (DAMMIT SEEDY)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2012, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
VC II (DAMMIT SEEDY)

Junkies always blame their pimps.  I DIDNT PUT THAT PIPE IN YOUR DICE TOWER

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 24, 2012, 08:23:56 PM
Wooties!  FedEx Fairy arrived!

Christ, Strike of The Eagle is fucking heavy.  Knew it was a block game;  didn't know it was cinder blocks.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 24, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
 :D  It's an excellent production, all around.  The map takes some getting used to because of how muddy everything is, though, but it does its job.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 24, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
:D  It's an excellent production, all around.  The map takes some getting used to because of how muddy everything is, though, but it does its job.

Yeah, the map looks kinda like what would happen if you took a color satellite photograph of the Ardennes and used it as an overlay for Candyland.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 11:02:39 AM
Also, for any of you guys that missed the Grand Tactical Series with Devil's Cauldron and Where Eagles Dare[/i], No Question of Surrender is a great one-mapper of the system. 

I mean, c'mon;  Rommel's boys and everyone's favorite comic sidekicks, the Italians, versus The Fucking French Fucking Foreign Fucking Legion, man.  Doesn't get much cooler than that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 25, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
I dunno, pretty much anything NOT involving the French and Italians would be cooler than that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 25, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
I dunno, pretty much anything NOT involving the French and Italians would be cooler than that.

Think of it as a competitive Division I-A match-up.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on April 26, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Rommel was a traitor.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 28, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
found a copy and it's on the way. :showoff:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic25688_md.jpg&hash=76d5f2637cfabf4386445b22691d060ba8254099)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 28, 2012, 08:09:34 PM
 :)

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 28, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
found a copy and it's on the way. :showoff:

I just did you one better, Daddyo.  Just scored an unpunched mint copy of Tactics II for $20.

And she will be punched.  Oh yes, she will be punched.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on April 30, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
Punched and clipped, by god!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on April 30, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
It isn't right to clip your counters until the counters grow old enough to make their own decision on the matter.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 30, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 28, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
found a copy and it's on the way. :showoff:

I just did you one better, Daddyo.  Just scored an unpunched mint copy of Tactics II for $20.

And she will be punched.  Oh yes, she will be punched.

Vice nice
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 01, 2012, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 20, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Ordered:

Mercury / Market Garden (A Rinella game just for tha haters)
VC II (DAMMIT SEEDY)

About fucking time too. 10 days ship time? WHAT IS THIS, THE 70's?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2012, 09:54:19 AM
Heh, Worthington does have its snailness.  I think I waited for 3 weeks for them to ship me Boots on The Ground, and that was when it was in stock.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2012, 04:43:45 PM
Hey Habs, you've played a ton of drops of AFAS, and you follow the BGG debates:  what's your opinion on all the HH bullshit?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 01, 2012, 04:46:57 PM
Though the game is still fun if the British go about some method other than gunning straight for HH, HH makes the game rather completely broken.  The scores of British players floating around on Yucata that have mastered the method have yet to hammer (hyuk hyuk) out a proper counter to it when playing the French, even when they know it's coming and even when focusing entirely on defending against it.

It's a shame to have happened to an otherwise excellent game, but these things happen.  Wallace will learn his lesson and hopefully so will all the deck-building designers out there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
No hop for a revamp to rescue the mechanics?

I mean, I can understand and accept game play issues in much larger, more complex products where playtesting can sometimes be limited in both time and scope, but for a game like AFAS, which can be played with soooo much more repetition during playtesting, it's just interesting that something so crippling could be noticed so quickly after release.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 01, 2012, 05:22:24 PM
If the game were reworked with the same basic concepts but a change in how sieges work and the disparity between troops available (one of the reasons HH works is because the British are so efficient at producing money and have a larger force-pool, overall, than the French), it could potentially work.  What are the odds of that, though?  Wallace released some patch-not...er, errata, but those don't significantly change the basic imbalance between the two sides in the military sphere.

I am likewise surprised that something so 'basic' was missed in playtesting despite a similar tactic being seen in, for example, Stalin's War and Barbarossa to Berlin shortly after release.  I am not completely surprised, though, because I've found that the majority of playtesters don't really play enough to discover holes like that.  A developer/designer would seem to need to consciously urge his players to try extreme tactics to prevent such pitfalls.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2012, 09:16:29 PM
In short:  it's a great game, as long as both opponents haven't figured out the HH strategy.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 01, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
Lots of games are great until they're broken.  Look at For the People.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quick question for Habs and everyone else:

Was talking to my buddy, and we were reminiscing about AH's old Gladiator, good, old-fashioned individual combat, which I played the shit out of growing up.  I was doing some surfing on BGG, and really didn't find too many alternatives for pseudo-miniature type individual combat, regardless of era.  Anybody know of any titles?

I know AH once had Gunslinger, and one of the other companies out there has a similar Wild West gunfight game, but I haven't found much else out there.  You guys know of anything else?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 02, 2012, 11:47:58 AM
Gunslinger would have been my sole stab at it, aside from Gladiator.  I can't recall any off the top of my head.  I'm headed to Montreal tomorrow, though, for a nerd-gasm so I'll poll the people there and see if they can come up with something.

I do think that Legion of Honour (Clash of Arms) that's due out some time around WBC this year is going to have personal duels in it, though I don't think they'll be all that involved.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
I sorta count AH's Firepower, although that's a title I never played.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
I sorta count AH's Firepower, although that's a title I never played.

Awesome game. Would make my head explode these days though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
I sorta count AH's Firepower, although that's a title I never played.

Awesome game. Would make my head explode these days though.

Yeah, a bit meticulous and over-engineered I suspect.

Boots On The Ground isn't really similar, but as far as small-unit individual action goes, it's a fast and furious play.

I was cruising through DriveThruRPG.net, and there are tons of miniatures rules for small-unit, individual combat.

Alas, I was sorta pining for something similar to Gladiator, for some reason.   :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 04:00:12 PM
There also used to be a game with medieval man to man combat. Cry Havoc I think.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Hey. They are reprinting Dungeon!

http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/dungeonbg

I'll have to get one to play with my sons.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 03, 2012, 12:47:44 PM
Mein Gott:

http://store.starfleetstore.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=2101&Category_Code=09

With quite possibly the ugliest counters(in this day and age):

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/798526/star-fleet-marines-assault-up-for-order
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
No shit.  Reminds me of Starship Troopers.  The good, old one.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on May 04, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
So, are A Few Acres of Snow and Strike of the Eagle worth getting?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on May 04, 2012, 12:34:13 AM
Quote from: Kleves on May 04, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
So, are A Few Acres of Snow and Strike of the Eagle worth getting?


Read the fucking thread Kleves.  :rolleyes:  :P

Quote from: Habbaku on April 19, 2012, 04:40:41 pm



Do you mean Strike of the Eagle, the Polish-Soviet War block game?  If so, that's a good pick, at least from my limited playings (a few scenarios, one of which Berkut was in).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 04, 2012, 08:03:03 AM
Quote from: Kleves on May 04, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
So, are A Few Acres of Snow and Strike of the Eagle worth getting?

From what I've read and seen, Strike of the Eagle doesn't have issues with replayability that AFAS has.  Both are superior products, well made with quality production value, but I would definitely err towards SotE between the two, especially now that AFAS has been blown wide open as totally broken for an instant British victory.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 07, 2012, 09:30:17 PM
The ogre kickstarter is nearing a nerd Apoclypse with Car Wars now within reach.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 08, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
The Ogre Kickstarter is approaching a farcical level.  I can't believe there is that much pent-up demand for that game.  Nor can I believe that there are so many people likely speculating on resale of it.  Yet so it goes...

On an unrelated note, Virgin Queen was, despite all my reticence and distrust...fun.  A lot of fun, actually.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 08, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 08, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
On an unrelated note, Virgin Queen was, despite all my reticence and distrust...fun.  A lot of fun, actually.

Sold.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 08, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
I am still skeptical that the Espionage system works as intended, but could see it having some effect if the game goes late.  The best thing is the fact that it doesn't seem to have Here I Stand's problem of having some of the players not really interact with one-another until late in the game. 

The diplomatic marriages, the HRE's accumulation of for-hire mercenaries instead of winter regular and the overall level of "Fuck You" events that players have a strong incentive to play (Spanish Pay Ships Seized, for instance, nukes some Spanish soldiers and then gives the player of the event a card draw) suffice to fix some of the nagging issues I have always had with HIS while keeping things pretty focused.  Probably the only thing I didn't necessarily enjoy is the patronizing mechanic of sponsoring artists and scientists because it seems relatively boring and, effectively, is a dice-off similar to the New World stuff in HIS.  Unlike HIS, though, it's a slow-burn style of VP-gain rather than a quick rush, giving you plenty of reason to start paying attention to someone's VPs level when they gather up their 3rd-VP-in-a-row from sponsoring art.

As a final note, I can't wait to play the Spanish in the game.  Whereas the Habsburgs in HIS usually had the resources to fight two people at once, the Spanish have the resources to fight 3-4 at once...and potentially win that battle if their opponents aren't coordinating.  The other players at the board allow Spain to keep its New World treasures at their peril.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 08, 2012, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 08, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Probably the only thing I didn't necessarily enjoy is the patronizing mechanic of sponsoring artists and scientists because it seems relatively boring and, effectively, is a dice-off similar to the New World stuff in HIS.

Perhaps, but it fits the context;  and like you said, it's a reliable VP gain with low risk.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on May 08, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 08, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
On an unrelated note, Virgin Queen was, despite all my reticence and distrust...fun.  A lot of fun, actually.

Cool. Can't wait for my copy to arrive.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on May 09, 2012, 02:03:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 08, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
Cool. Can't wait for my copy to arrive.

Me too. I can't quite remember, but I think I chose the slow shipping option  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
Mine just came. Box is so heavy!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 09, 2012, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
Mine just came. Box is so heavy!

Damn, that was fast.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 09, 2012, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
Mine just came. Box is so heavy!

The ACTS module is due to be finished/released rather soon.  I fully support PBEM ASAP.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2012, 12:00:50 PM
5 days or so I guess as it shipped on 3rd. But yeah.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 09, 2012, 02:31:09 PM
Speaking of ASL, a week old, but still a production update from MMP:

QuoteASL Update

Rising Sun: Counters, rules, overlays, and scenarios are in the final stages of layout and proofing. The geo maps and the Gavutu-Tanambogo map are all done. We are finalizing the errata/Q&A updates that will be included in the new edition of Chapter G. There is a lot of "stuff" here and I'm trying to make sure all of the interconnected threads are still tied properly. Also, the overlays from RS are obviously intimately associated with The Overlay Bundle that is being developed concurrently, and should be able to complete it later this summer, once RS has been wrapped up.

Journal 10: We've taken the opportunity presented by Festung Budapest to develop some new FB material for J10. We'll have a new FB scenario and article, both by Bill Cirillo, and a Series Replay of FB17 Stalingrad Redux featuring Phil Palmer (Russians), John Slotwinski (Germans), and Sean Deller (neutral commentary). J10 will, of course, also contain several other articles and 12-16 other scenarios.

Decision at Elst is the first ASL Starter Kit Historical module and covers the fighting between British and German forces in the area known as "the Island" located between Nijmegen and Arnhem during Operation MARKET-GARDEN. Playtesting has wrapped up and we are in the final proofing stage for the components. These will include a 22" x 34" map, the latest SK rules set, 4 stand-alone scenarios, a Campaign Game, specific rules for the Elst ASLSK HASL, charts, and enough counters to play the entire module without having to own any other ASLSK product. Anyone who came to this year's Winter Offensive got a glimpse of the almost-final map.

Hakkaa Päälle continues to steam along. I have recently been working on its counters as well as its new rules. We are also updating the national Capabilities Chart to not only include the new Finn units and characteristics, but also Hungarian, Marine Raider/Paramarine, and SS MMC that have all been released since the last version of the chart was published.

At some point in the not-too-distant future we will be producing Martin Svärd and Erik Leander's mini-module Swedish Volunteers, covering the exploits of the Swedish Volunteer Corps in World War II. This will include 12-16 scenarios and a sheet of counters for the Infantry, SW, and Guns of the SVC. We're still discussing the best format for its release (magazine, scenario pack, etc.) but will post as soon as we know more details.

Lots of other "down the road" projects are still moving forward nicely as well, such as Korea ASL, Manila, Ortona, the reprints for both the Italian and the American core modules, and much much more.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on May 09, 2012, 02:33:04 PM
I would shoot myself if I was still an ASL fan. The glacial pace they release content would make me insane.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
You'd at least have Critical Hit's shit to buy for ASL.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on May 09, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
Shit is right.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 09, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 09, 2012, 02:33:04 PM
I would shoot myself if I was still an ASL fan. The glacial pace they release content would make me insane.

No kidding.

As somebody who missed (read: voluntarily opted out) the ASL rage of the early 90s and onward, actually wanting to get into the system and waiting for them to reprint the series has been painful to watch.

But I do so detest the ASL community: talk about a snobby elitist buncha bastards.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
SFB Module V: Stupid shit we made up with weapons that are just renamed Photons

SFB Module X: The ISC. To play them, you have to cram a bunch of ships on the map. Enjoy that 3 day game nerds.

SFB: Module F: Fighters. All the Federation fighters are named after American fighters. Stephen V Cole has no imagination edition.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 09, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
SFB Module V: Stupid shit we made up with weapons that are just renamed Photons

SFB Module X: The ISC. To play them, you have to cram a bunch of ships on the map. Enjoy that 3 day game nerds.

SFB: Module F: Fighters. All the Federation fighters are named after American fighters. Stephen V Cole has no imagination edition.

:lol: yea. I hear and only have heard the stripped down version plays pretty well though. No exp with it. I'm not going to collect XX upteen modules.

BTW that reminds me I need to get ISC War for F+E.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 12:06:45 AM
Ordered ISC War and Labyrinth

Damn you Ed Anger :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 12:06:45 AM
Ordered ISC War and Labyrinth

Damn you Ed Anger :lol:

Don't put that Federation Commander crack pipe in your mouth, man.  I'm telling you now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 12:32:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 12:06:45 AM
Ordered ISC War and Labyrinth

Damn you Ed Anger :lol:

Don't put that Federation Commander crack pipe in your mouth, man.  I'm telling you now.

;)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 10, 2012, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 12:06:45 AM
Ordered ISC War and Labyrinth

Damn you Ed Anger :lol:

:blush:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.morethings.com%2Ffan%2Fsaturday_night_live%2Fjon_lovitz%2Fjon_lovitz-devil-snl-46.jpg&hash=2e9678fa718c8c976ecc6623a8d8af4e35f5f162)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
WOOT! Got my copy of Tactics II today!

Since I'm not going to be doing much for the foreseeable future, I think I just might grace Languish with a Tactics II AAR.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 10, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
Ill be looking forword to that. :cheers:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on May 10, 2012, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
WOOT! Got my copy of Tactics II today!

Since I'm not going to be doing much for the foreseeable future, I think I just might grace Languish with a Tactics II AAR.


I believe it when i see it <_<

He said while clearing the dust off Gringo.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 10, 2012, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
WOOT! Got my copy of Tactics II today!

Since I'm not going to be doing much for the foreseeable future, I think I just might grace Languish with a Tactics II AAR.


I believe it when i see it <_<

He said while clearing the dust off Gringo.

:lol:  It's Tactics II.  Only an AAR of checkers would be less interesting.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 11, 2012, 12:04:05 AM
The Tactics II speech. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
Major gaming catastrophes--

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic498608_md.jpg&hash=7ffe51b43b3c0452b7a0ec1190f90cac5be7b81a)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1310800_md.jpg&hash=490963a10c4e8386778d1fda2fe80604ad521174)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1313265_md.jpg&hash=843daf89f722bb8ab2daec414eceb85bbb15984d)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on May 14, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Dammit where's MY 1989?  :ultra:

First impressions? Before the cat ruined it?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 04:46:33 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 14, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Dammit where's MY 1989?  :ultra:

First impressions? Before the cat ruined it?

Kind of curious about that myself.

I don't think there's a "Execute Gay Polish Lawyer Bloc" card to play, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 15, 2012, 11:29:43 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 09, 2012, 02:33:04 PM
I would shoot myself if I was still an ASL fan. The glacial pace they release content would make me insane.

I don't really have the time to commit to it or the patience to learn the tactical nuances, but I don't think the OOP problem is the key bottleneck. 

The rule Book, the East Front module and the UK core module are all in print - so that gives Germans, Soviets and the UK which is plenty to work with.  Plus you can get all sorts of other counters and scenarios from the starter kits, which they seem to be committing to keep in print on somewhat regular basis.  Plus they are constantly releasing new scenarios and boards in those add-on packs.  If you really want to play Pacific or French-Italian skirmishes you are out of look or spending high on ebay but there is still a lot to do with what's out.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
Oh yeah, if you're solely an East Front fan, you have everything needed available to you with current ASL production.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 15, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
Oh yeah, if you're solely an East Front fan, you have everything needed available to you with current ASL production.

I cant take hits off that bong. Good games to be sure.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PRC on May 16, 2012, 11:49:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic498608_md.jpg&hash=7ffe51b43b3c0452b7a0ec1190f90cac5be7b81a)

Sing Praise to the Lord!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Lucidor on May 17, 2012, 01:39:53 AM
I still see some Romans standing. :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2012, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lucidor on May 17, 2012, 01:39:53 AM
I still see some Romans standing. :)

I'm sure there's a CATaphract joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 17, 2012, 06:20:12 AM
M Garfieldus Catallus commanding.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Today's GMT update

QuoteCharging Schedule:

Charge #1: We will charge on Thursday, May 24, for the following three items:

Ardennes '44 ( Reprint Edition)
Reds (Reprint Edition)
Next War: Korea

If you have ordered any of these games via the "Pay by Check" method, please send your checks out by May 24th.


Charge #2: We will charge on Tuesday, June 5, for the following items:

Dominant Species: The Card Game
Panzer (base game)
Red Winter

If you have ordered any of these games via the "Pay by Check" method, please send your checks out by June 5.

Charge #3: We will charge on Thursday, June 21, for these two items:

Panzer Expansion #1
Panzer Expansion #2

If you have ordered either of these expansions via the "Pay by Check" method, please send your checks out by June 21.

Woot, NW:K and Panzer in the same summer!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 22, 2012, 10:27:08 PM
Its older than me, but I scored and unpunched copy of SPI's Golan this weekend.  Don't know if I want to ruin that pretty card...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 22, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 22, 2012, 10:27:08 PM
Its older than me, but I scored and unpunched copy of SPI's Golan this weekend.  Don't know if I want to ruin that pretty card...

I went for a punched copy a few months back. Depends, you a player or collector?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 22, 2012, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 22, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
I went for a punched copy a few months back. Depends, you a player or collector?

I'm a player when I can find opponents.  I wouldn't mind sitting on this copy and finding another punched one, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 22, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
Kingdom of Heaven is finally grinding along.  Could be as little as 2 weeks until the games go out.  Ditto Angola.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 22, 2012, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 22, 2012, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 22, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
I went for a punched copy a few months back. Depends, you a player or collector?

I'm a player when I can find opponents.  I wouldn't mind sitting on this copy and finding another punched one, though.

Prob a good COA :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 22, 2012, 10:42:49 PM
Me, my brother, and our wives played Carcassone over the weekend.  Had never played it before.  It was fun.   :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 22, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
Kingdom of Heaven is finally grinding along.  Could be as little as 2 weeks until the games go out.  Ditto Angola.

Wooties!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 22, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 22, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
Kingdom of Heaven is finally grinding along.  Could be as little as 2 weeks until the games go out.  Ditto Angola.

Wooties!

Two I've been waiting on
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 22, 2012, 10:56:50 PM
Same here.  So close...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2012, 05:53:58 AM
I want my Jonas Savimbi counter.  I will make his little accent ever time he moves, too.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2012, 07:21:23 AM
Hey Habs, you hear any jungle tom toms on the improvements on the 2012 edition of Wacht Am Rhein from the 2nd edition?  I've read some comments from Youst on the boards, but I'm having trouble looking for any playtest comments.

Now with the Hurtgen expansion, me want.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on May 24, 2012, 06:28:35 AM
So if I want to get either Here I Stand or Virgin Queen, and potentially introduce some friends to it, which one should I get first?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: ulmont on May 24, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on May 24, 2012, 06:28:35 AM
So if I want to get either Here I Stand or Virgin Queen, and potentially introduce some friends to it, which one should I get first?

I'd suggest Here I Stand, because it's finished.  All the weird questions have been asked and answered on consimworld or in the faq on Ed Beach's site.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 24, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
Grabbed Raicer's The First World War from my FLGS. A month ago I realized that a very high level WW1 game that could be played quickly would be cool. I don't know if this is it (I understand that many people dislike it) but it was fairly cheap.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 24, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 24, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
Grabbed Raicer's The First World War from my FLGS.

:bleeding:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 24, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2012, 07:21:23 AM
Hey Habs, you hear any jungle tom toms on the improvements on the 2012 edition of Wacht Am Rhein from the 2nd edition?  I've read some comments from Youst on the boards, but I'm having trouble looking for any playtest comments.

Now with the Hurtgen expansion, me want.

It's a Youst game.  Don't hold your breath on it being worth a damn.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 24, 2012, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 24, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 23, 2012, 07:21:23 AM
Hey Habs, you hear any jungle tom toms on the improvements on the 2012 edition of Wacht Am Rhein from the 2nd edition?  I've read some comments from Youst on the boards, but I'm having trouble looking for any playtest comments.

Now with the Hurtgen expansion, me want.

It's a Youst game.  Don't hold your breath on it being worth a damn.

:lol:  Candor noted and catalogued.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on May 27, 2012, 12:12:42 PM
Ordered HIS, the reprinted version. :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on May 27, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on May 27, 2012, 12:12:42 PM
Ordered HIS, the reprinted version. :)

Make sure you get the errata counters with your package.  They probably have it packed in the box that you get, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 27, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Make sure you get the errata counters with your package.  They probably have it packed in the box that you get, though.

They mailed them together with mine, but in a separate envelope in the shipment.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on May 28, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 27, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Make sure you get the errata counters with your package.  They probably have it packed in the box that you get, though.

They mailed them together with mine, but in a separate envelope in the shipment.

Same.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on May 29, 2012, 12:20:01 PM
Just picked up 1989 and Virgin Queen at the post office.  :cool:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on May 29, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I find the premise of 1989 to be stupid, ever since I saw it does cities.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2012, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 29, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I find the premise of 1989 to be stupid, ever since I saw it does cities.

It's like Twilight Struggle, except for kittens.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
Virgin Queen, Case Yellow, and Summer Lightning: The Invasion of Poland 1939 are en route.   :blush:


So's a WH40K: Deathwatch book.  :unsure:

As long as I'm still drawing a paycheck, I'm gonna keep chasing the dragon.   :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Jaron on May 30, 2012, 08:42:20 PM
Let's play 1960
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2012, 01:59:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
Virgin Queen, Case Yellow, and Summer Lightning: The Invasion of Poland 1939 are en route.   :blush:


So's a WH40K: Deathwatch book.  :unsure:

As long as I'm still drawing a paycheck, I'm gonna keep chasing the dragon.   :ph34r:

Wooties.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2012, 11:23:25 AM
CSW chatter sounds like GMT is already charging for the Next War:Korea revamp and the Reds! reprint (which I was never really all that impressed with before), and it looks like Andean Abyss is getting ready to go out the door soon.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 04, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
Official word from the Youse-Meister : Angola starts shipping today or tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 04, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
Official word from the Youse-Meister : Angola starts shipping today or tomorrow.  :)

Wooties.

I never pre-order, so it looks like I'll have to wait a couple weeks for it to show up at CoolStuffInc.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 04, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 04, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
Official word from the Youse-Meister : Angola starts shipping today or tomorrow.  :)

Yes
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 06, 2012, 09:22:51 AM
HIS arrived in the mail. :yeah: Now to get some friends together.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2012, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 06, 2012, 09:22:51 AM
HIS arrived in the mail. :yeah: Now to get some friends together.

Heavy fucker, ain't it?  Gotta love a game you could kill a grown man with.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on June 06, 2012, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2012, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 06, 2012, 09:22:51 AM
HIS arrived in the mail. :yeah: Now to get some friends together.

Heavy fucker, ain't it?  Gotta love a game you could kill a grown man with.

I like the VQ package that had 6lbs on the packing label. :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 07, 2012, 06:40:48 AM
GMT's update from yesterday:

QuoteCharging and Shipping Schedule

Shipping: Since our last update, we have shipped all the P500 orders for the 3rd Printing of Dominant Species, as well as the Update Kits that we offered for that game. Next up for shipping will be Next War: Korea and Red Winter, both shipping later this month.

Charging: On May 24-26, we charged for Next War: Korea, as well as for the new/reprint editions of Ardennes' 44 and Reds, respectively.

Yesterday, June 5, we charged for Red Winter. Due to some short production delays on a few other games and the earlier-than-expected arrival of Andean Abyss, we have decided to hold off a bit on our other previously announced charges, and revise the near-future Charge Schedule to look like this:

June 21: Andean Abyss, Dominant Species Card Game
July 5: Crown of Roses, Panzer
July 19: Bloody April, Panzer Expansions 1 & 2.

Estimated shipping dates:

Quote
Late June, 2012:
Next War: Korea
Red Winter

 
Early July, 2012:
Ardennes '44 (New Edition)
Reds (Reprint Edition)

Mid-Late July, 2012:
Andean Abyss
Dominant Species: The Card Game

August, 2012:
Bloody April, 1917
Crown of Roses
Panzer + Expansions 1 and 2


September, 2012:
Space Empires: Close Encounters
Saints in Armor
Fading Glory

October, 2012:
Mr. Madison's War
Pax Baltica 

November, 2012:
The Hunters (for Consimworld Press)
Commands & Colors Napoleonics, 2nd Printing
C & C Napoleonics: The Russian Army


Unscheduled for Now:
The Supreme Commander (Once we get a new developer and address one balance issue, we'll add this one back to the schedule)
Battle for Normandy Expansion Pack
Great Campaigns of the Thirty Years War


I was really hoping to see the BfN expansion pack this summer.  :(  Really looking forward to Andean Abyss, though.  Between that and Angola!, your brown person fix should be sated for the year.
The Panzer system, just in time for football season.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 07, 2012, 06:58:50 AM
Any of you guys ever played Munchkin?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 07, 2012, 07:00:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 07, 2012, 06:58:50 AM
Any of you guys ever played Munchkin?

Played a few sessions with guys at work;  fun and mindless.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: frunk on June 07, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Definitely mindless, very little fun.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 07, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: frunk on June 07, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Definitely mindless, very little fun.

:lol:

As an aside, I highly recommend Red November as brain toast.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 07:14:39 AM
 :cool:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1334342_lg.jpg&hash=22ab77eddda7c714e6b9c2a9d37f3321064320c8)

Somebody mentioned that it looks like UNO goes to war.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 08, 2012, 07:17:36 AM
Is it out.... :w00t:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 07:18:33 AM
They're shipping to pre-orders now;  people have been receiving their copies already.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 08, 2012, 07:19:28 AM
Yes
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 08, 2012, 07:46:14 AM
Quick question for HIS here (so as not to clutter the VQ thread). Reformation rule says:

QuoteHe adds a +1 die roll modifier to each roll if this attempt was generated by Calvin's Institutes or a Full Bible translation and if this attempt is in the target language zone(s).

Does this mean that you get +2 if both conditions apply, or do both conditions need to apply to get +1?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: ulmont on June 08, 2012, 08:38:51 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 08, 2012, 07:46:14 AM
Quick question for HIS here (so as not to clutter the VQ thread). Reformation rule says:

QuoteHe adds a +1 die roll modifier to each roll if this attempt was generated by Calvin's Institutes or a Full Bible translation and if this attempt is in the target language zone(s).

Does this mean that you get +2 if both conditions apply, or do both conditions need to apply to get +1?

You cannot have a reformation attempt that is both "generated by Calvin's Institutes" and "generated by...a Full Bible translation."

You get +1 if:

1) The attempt was generated by Calvin's Institute and the attempt is in the target language zone (France); or
2) The attempt was generated by a full Bible translation in a language and the attempt is in that language zone.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 08, 2012, 11:14:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 07:18:33 AM
They're shipping to pre-orders now;  people have been receiving their copies already.

Considering you're, what, five feet from their office, I'm surprised you didn't just walk over there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 08, 2012, 11:14:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 07:18:33 AM
They're shipping to pre-orders now;  people have been receiving their copies already.

Considering you're, what, five feet from their office, I'm surprised you didn't just walk over there.

I asked that once, I believe I was rebuffed for some reason.  Not to mention ordering something from them direct they had in stock took over 10 days to get here once.  :lol:

Next time they ask for volunteers for a mega collating party though, I'm raising my hand.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 08, 2012, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: ulmont on June 08, 2012, 08:38:51 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 08, 2012, 07:46:14 AM
Quick question for HIS here (so as not to clutter the VQ thread). Reformation rule says:

QuoteHe adds a +1 die roll modifier to each roll if this attempt was generated by Calvin's Institutes or a Full Bible translation and if this attempt is in the target language zone(s).

Does this mean that you get +2 if both conditions apply, or do both conditions need to apply to get +1?

You cannot have a reformation attempt that is both "generated by Calvin's Institutes" and "generated by...a Full Bible translation."

You get +1 if:

1) The attempt was generated by Calvin's Institute and the attempt is in the target language zone (France); or
2) The attempt was generated by a full Bible translation in a language and the attempt is in that language zone.

Okay, the way I was reading it was:

+1 die roll modifier to each roll if
a) this attempt was generated by Calvin's Institutes or a Full Bible translation
and if
b) this attempt is in the target language zone(s)

So my question was whether you had to have both (a) and (b) to get +1, or whether you got +1 for (a) and another +1 for (b). I think I got it now though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 08, 2012, 01:34:13 PM
You only ever get a single DRM.  No double-stacking the +1s there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 08, 2012, 01:38:23 PM
Another question, about minor powers. Suppose England DOWs Scotland but France doesn't intervene, so Scotland remains unactivated and fights the war on its own. If England destroys the Scottish army and controls all its spaces, what happens? Does the war simply go on until France (or someone) allies with Scotland and fights for its spaces?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 08, 2012, 01:39:48 PM
Correct; the war would go on indefinitely, but with no one really able to do anything with Scotland.

If someone played Diplomatic Marriage to activate Scotland, they could then get credit for Edinburgh with a later play of City State Rebels (or vice-versa--play of CSR, then DM), but that would take a lot of resources to get that one key.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 08, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
When someone else who will actually play Angola gets theirs, let me know. Never buying a game again just because Seedy has it. <_<
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 08, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 08, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
When someone else who will actually play Angola gets theirs, let me know. Never buying a game again just because Seedy has it. <_<

How much does it cost, and can you buy it if you ddn't pre-order it?

:shifty:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 08, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
When someone else who will actually play Angola gets theirs, let me know. Never buying a game again just because Seedy has it. <_<

Gringo! is a wonderful game system.  :unsure:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 08, 2012, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2012, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 08, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
When someone else who will actually play Angola gets theirs, let me know. Never buying a game again just because Seedy has it. <_<

Gringo! is a wonderful game system.  :unsure:

I wouldn't know you ass.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 08, 2012, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 08, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 08, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
When someone else who will actually play Angola gets theirs, let me know. Never buying a game again just because Seedy has it. <_<

How much does it cost, and can you buy it if you ddn't pre-order it?

:shifty:

I want to be whichever side gets to kill Cubans.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 12, 2012, 03:11:32 AM
I have another question about HIS. Suppose England declares war on Scotland and France intervenes. England captures Edinburgh and France captures Calais. Subsequently they agree to peace and England keeps Edinburgh. What if Scotland is later deactivated via card play, does England still keep Edinburgh or is the English control marker removed?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 12, 2012, 03:13:34 AM
England keeps it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 12, 2012, 03:23:53 AM
Anybody have more insight on 1989 by GMT (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-304-1989.aspx)?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 12, 2012, 03:23:53 AM
Anybody have more insight on 1989 by GMT (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-304-1989.aspx)?

I received my copy, will be playing it next Saturday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 12, 2012, 03:43:43 AM
rgr that, yeah saw it at my game/hobby/comic shop over weekend.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AM
It looks great, excellent production value. I'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: katmai on June 12, 2012, 04:15:11 AM
Heh mainly what i'm curious about.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 12, 2012, 08:36:22 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AM
It looks great, excellent production value. I'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.

What else did you expect?  :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AMI'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.

It's not like GMT was hiding that concept as a state secret or anything.   :P

It does look interesting, though.  But the topic may not be for everyone.  Not enough blood.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 12, 2012, 08:36:22 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AM
It looks great, excellent production value. I'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.

What else did you expect?  :huh:

That it would not be the exact same game?  :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AMI'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.

It's not like GMT was hiding that concept as a state secret or anything.   :P

It does look interesting, though.  But the topic may not be for everyone.  Not enough blood.

I know the concept is the same, just like HIS and VQ.
But I fear 1989 and TS will be much more alike.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2012, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 12, 2012, 08:36:22 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 04:08:46 AM
It looks great, excellent production value. I'm a tad afraid I've bought a second copy of Twilight Struggle, though.

What else did you expect?  :huh:

That it would not be the exact same game?  :huh:

It's not the same game;  it's the same mechanics, maybe, but that doesn't mean its the same game.   And at least they're successful mechanics at that, something that's not always seen in new games (see earlier posts onA Few Broken Acres of Snow)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 12, 2012, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2012, 09:48:16 AM
It's not the same game;  it's the same mechanics, maybe, but that doesn't mean its the same game.   And at least they're successful mechanics at that, something that's not always seen in new games (see earlier posts onA Few Broken Acres of Snow)

It also looks much more asymmetrical, which is a plus if it's done well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Warspite on June 12, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
I would like to buy a friend a copy of Axis and Allies for their birthday - which is the best edition to get?

Should I just go for the most recent one I can find (eg, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avalon-Hill-HAS25066-Axis-Allies/dp/B0026J3PO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339538776&sr=8-1)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 13, 2012, 12:30:14 AM
Some gamers get the best wives :

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2Ftank.jpg&hash=e8df8b3356a2ad73676d3ecbb98d7d6f8a3572c0)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2Ftank2.jpg&hash=d496f6fc7b9dc861016f8b17c91ad76022b4150c)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: Warspite on June 12, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
I would like to buy a friend a copy of Axis and Allies for their birthday - which is the best edition to get?

Should I just go for the most recent one I can find (eg, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avalon-Hill-HAS25066-Axis-Allies/dp/B0026J3PO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339538776&sr=8-1)

From what I know, the A&A Anniversary Edition is the stepping off point for all those battle-specific and year-specific A&A titles, but I could be talking out of my ass, as I'm not 100% familiar with the entire family of games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 13, 2012, 04:08:06 AM
Made a drop for

Lock n load:
Band of Heroes
Not One Step Back
Dark July

Was wanting Ring of Hills, but Coolsuff was out on that one.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 13, 2012, 04:39:43 AM
I shall  :bash: Mr. Walker if he is trying to say the below units were anywhere in Fourth Panzer Army's AO.  :grr:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic345943.jpg&hash=a42f8cab01a7f57b8a9f17061b7cf51f78d57063)

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 13, 2012, 04:59:06 AM
What's the difference between Cyberboard and Vassal? I've looked at them both and they seem pretty similar.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2012, 06:32:13 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 13, 2012, 04:59:06 AM
What's the difference between Cyberboard and Vassal? I've looked at them both and they seem pretty similar.

IIRC, about 10+ years ago, they debuted roughly the same time; while Cyberboard came out with a few more game modules when Vassal was principally dedicated to ASL, but the community really jumped forward on Vassal with programming and producing modules over the years, and ADC withered and died.  :(

I'd say that Cyberboard is a bit more labor intensive, too.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2012, 06:34:01 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 13, 2012, 04:39:43 AM
I shall  :bash: Mr. Walker if he is trying to say the below units were anywhere in Fourth Panzer Army's AO.  :grr:

He's a lot of hit and miss.  A lot.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 13, 2012, 06:34:40 AM
I think Cyberboard is easier for PBEM, VASSAL is more for TCIP/IP play.

VASSAL is perfectly fine for PBEM as well, but the whole interface screams that it wasnt made for it.

Plus, VASSAL installs itself so it is easily identifiable on work computers, unlike Cyberboard which you just copy there and nobody knows.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 13, 2012, 06:36:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 13, 2012, 06:34:40 AM
Plus, VASSAL installs itself so it is easily identifiable on work computers, unlike Cyberboard which you just copy there and nobody knows.  :ph34r:

:ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 13, 2012, 06:34:40 AM
I think Cyberboard is easier for PBEM, VASSAL is more for TCIP/IP play.

Yup.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on June 13, 2012, 06:52:37 AM
Btw Tamas, we need one more for our HIS game, you should join. You might even pwn us noobs. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 13, 2012, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: Warspite on June 12, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
I would like to buy a friend a copy of Axis and Allies for their birthday - which is the best edition to get?

Should I just go for the most recent one I can find (eg, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avalon-Hill-HAS25066-Axis-Allies/dp/B0026J3PO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339538776&sr=8-1)

As I understand it the 50th Anniversary Edition is the most complete, the 1942 version is less complex and has a smaller map.
Then you have Europe 1940 and Pacific 1940 (the 1940 is important, there are also two version named Europe and Pacific), which can be combined to form a huge game. I've only played the combined game, which was a lot of fun, but I believe they are quite good separately as well.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 17, 2012, 10:57:56 AM
1989 was a lot of fun. The two games we played were wildly different, in the first the commies were barely dented at all and auto-won by turn 7 or so, in the second they won again but only on a single VP and after an utter slugfest from start to finish. Every square counts in this game, something I don't recall happening in my admittedly few games playing TS. The power struggle mechanic is not that special in itself but it does add a lot of tension because of what is at stake. I think I'll pick 1989 over TS for some time to come.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 18, 2012, 07:29:50 PM
Here's an interview with Ed Beach (designer of Here I Stand and Virgin Queen) about his other (day-job) design :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGNI8UqN6MA
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 18, 2012, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 18, 2012, 07:29:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGNI8UqN6MA

I bet she likes to be punched in the face and then fucked on roll of 5 or 6 on the Attrition CRT.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on June 18, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
I've only watched the first few seconds so far, but wow they were plugging hard in that vid for why girls get little respect.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 18, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 18, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
I've only watched the first few seconds so far, but wow they were plugging hard in that vid for why girls get little respect.

Yeah, her glancing multiple times to the back to double-check what she's reporting/interviewing on is...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 18, 2012, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 18, 2012, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 18, 2012, 07:29:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGNI8UqN6MA

I bet she likes to be punched in the face and then fucked on roll of 5 or 6 on the Attrition CRT.

and a Dirty Sanchez on 1.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 06:48:46 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2012, 10:57:56 AM
1989 was a lot of fun. The two games we played were wildly different, in the first the commies were barely dented at all and auto-won by turn 7 or so, in the second they won again but only on a single VP and after an utter slugfest from start to finish. Every square counts in this game, something I don't recall happening in my admittedly few games playing TS. The power struggle mechanic is not that special in itself but it does add a lot of tension because of what is at stake. I think I'll pick 1989 over TS for some time to come.

That's pretty interesting to hear, Mal.  Let us know when you knock out another 10 or so games, see how the replay value is for 1989, as opposed to TS.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 19, 2012, 06:51:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 06:48:46 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2012, 10:57:56 AM
1989 was a lot of fun. The two games we played were wildly different, in the first the commies were barely dented at all and auto-won by turn 7 or so, in the second they won again but only on a single VP and after an utter slugfest from start to finish. Every square counts in this game, something I don't recall happening in my admittedly few games playing TS. The power struggle mechanic is not that special in itself but it does add a lot of tension because of what is at stake. I think I'll pick 1989 over TS for some time to come.

That's pretty interesting to hear, Mal.  Let us know when you knock out another 10 or so games, see how the replay value is for 1989, as opposed to TS.

But what is this bullshit of buying influence in cities? It was never, never a geographical struggle in the small-ish states of eastern europe. EVER.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on June 19, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 19, 2012, 06:51:49 AM
But what is this bullshit of buying influence in cities? It was never, never a geographical struggle in the small-ish states of eastern europe. EVER.

The spaces are not cities like they were countries in TS. They represent the various parts of the population.
One of the spaces in Poland is called "Catholic Church", another "Polish Writers". I suppose they could have put in a Polish Bureaucrats and Polish Workers space as well, but they called them Warsaw and Gdansk instead (they still are bureaucrat and worker spaces) to make the map resemble, well, a map.

And to appease overreacting Hungarians, they put a card in that lets you obliterate a space of your choice in Romania :)

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 19, 2012, 07:46:01 AM
call them bureaucrats and workers spaces then, not cities. :P Stupid :P Especially in Hungary :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:31:19 AM
Hey Habs, you and your droogies making it to Lancaster this summer?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 19, 2012, 09:45:48 AM
Yeah, we're packing 'em in like sardines again this year.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Unless I become gainfully employed by then, I'll swing by and say Hella...?

Let's see...Combat Commander, BO: Normandy, HIS, Advanced Civ.... :hmm:

HIS, though?  Really, J?  JESUS H CHRIST YOURE NOT A WRITER YOURE A KILLER


Well, at least with Combat Commander, Berkut can't complain about the other guy attacking him for no reason.  :nelson:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: szmik on June 19, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Well, at least with Combat Commander, Berkut can't complain about the other guy attacking him for no reason.  :nelson:
good one
:lmfao:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 19, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Unless I become gainfully employed by then, I'll swing by and say Hella...?

That'd be fun.  Hopefully won't see you there if renewed employment prevents it. :cheers:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 19, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Well, at least with Combat Commander, Berkut can't complain about the other guy attacking him for no reason.  :nelson:

Nobody has ever complained about you attacking them for any reason.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 19, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 19, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Unless I become gainfully employed by then, I'll swing by and say Hella...?

That'd be fun.  Hopefully won't see you there if renewed employment prevents it. :cheers:

Something will prevent it, but it won't be employment. Or lack of employment.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 19, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Something will prevent it, but it won't be employment. Or lack of employment.

lol, My social calendar is blown wide open, baby.  DayRunner is:  blank as a motherfucker.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on June 19, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 19, 2012, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 19, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Something will prevent it, but it won't be employment. Or lack of employment.

lol, My social calendar is blown wide open, baby.  DayRunner is:  blank as a motherfucker.  :(

Hell, come on up and visit for a weekend. Play some games. Its only about 6 hours.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 19, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.instanttrap.com%2Ftrap.jpg&hash=7abd6e732b74f4ca8895946f11d805346ab71af6)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2012, 09:36:49 AM
Ha

LnL BoB, NOSB, and DJ have arrived. Nice components in all three. For some reason there is a Ponyri scenario in Dark July. That is the reason for the Ferdinand. The DJ module is centered around Prokhorovka. So the Ponyri scenario is like..... :huh: . They could have added another Tiger instead of that POS assault gun. :mad:

Oh and CM Normandy and Commonwealth too.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 10:01:23 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 21, 2012, 09:36:49 AM
Ha

LnL BoB, NOSB, and DJ have arrived. Nice components in all three. For some reason there is a Ponyri scenario in Dark July. That is the reason for the Ferdinand. The DJ module is centered around Prokhorovka. So the Ponyri scenario is like..... :huh: . They could have added another Tiger instead of that POS assault gun. :mad:

Like I said, Lock n Load can be a little hit or miss when it comes to their stuff.  Should've named the company "Spray N Pray".  Heh.  Just made that one up.

The more I read through it, the more I'm impressed with the mechanics of Summer Lightning, though.  Always been intrigued with operational level and below Poland '39 stuff.  I like games where the Poles have a chance, and can show their grit.

QuoteOh and CM Normandy and Commonwealth too.

Let me know if the Germans scream when they're hit by PIATs.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 09:32:04 AM
GMT's busy summer continues, update from Monday:

QuoteShipping: We began shipping TODAY for both Next War: Korea :yeah: and Red Winter. It should take us about 5 days to get all the P500 games out, so look for yours soon! Next up, within just a few weeks, will be the new/reprint editions of Ardennes' 44 and Reds, as well as the Dominant Species Card Game, which is arriving a bit earlier than we expected last time we did an update.

Charging:  Starting tomorrow, June 21, we will charge all P500 orders for  Andean Abyss :yeah: and the Dominant Species Card Game

July 5: Crown of Roses, Panzer :yeah:
July 19: Bloody April, Panzer Expansions 1 & 2 :yeah:

Interesting p500 intro tidbit for you WW1tards--

QuoteDesigner Michael Resch, whose previous GMT design, 1914 Twilight in the East, was the 2007 Charles S. Roberts Award winner for Best pre-WWII Board Game and Best Wargame Graphics, has a new game! This time, in 1914, Offensive à outrance, Mike takes us to the Western Front of WWI, focusing on the early 1914 campaigns. For those of you who liked Twilight in the East and for you WWI gamers in general, we think you'll like this one. Click the banner above for more details and to order.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 23, 2012, 10:58:04 AM
Panzer, had to jog the memory on that one.


The "Air War" of tank games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 23, 2012, 10:58:04 AM
The "Air War" of tank games.

My God, let's hope not.  :bleeding:

I mean, MBT/IDF is user-friendly enough.  I don't think GMT would make that kind of mistake in today's gaming market.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 23, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 23, 2012, 10:58:04 AM
The "Air War" of tank games.

My God, let's hope not.  :bleeding:

I mean, MBT/IDF is user-friendly enough.  I don't think GMT would make that kind of mistake in today's gaming market.

I think the designer talks a little about the new Panzer here.

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/601846/new-panzer-vs-old-panzer
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
Well, I guess if people don't like it and want an alternative, they can always play Combat Commander.  You know, the "tactical WW2 combat game" without vehicles at all.   :lol: OMG INFANTRY ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKEKE
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 23, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
kingdom of Heaven starts shipping Monday.  :yeah:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 23, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
kingdom of Heaven starts shipping Monday.  :yeah:

The only thing that drives me nuts about MMP is how they wait for weeks before they ship to wholesalers. :bleeding:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 23, 2012, 11:53:43 AM
S Craig Taylor died.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2012, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 23, 2012, 11:53:43 AM
S Craig Taylor died.  :(

Well, shit.  A giant of a name in the industry.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on June 24, 2012, 03:33:44 AM
RPS reviews the reprint of Fortress America:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/24/cardboard-children-fortress-america/

It also sums up my feelings about America when I was a kid:

QuoteSee, when I was young, America was this big scary glamorous place that would fuck you up if you looked at it the wrong way. America existed in my head as a creature with Stallone's muscles, an eagle's head, Ronald Reagan's voice and a rocket launcher. In the 1980s, American culture fed me the idea that the USA was built on solid foundations of kissing beautiful girls, driving shit hot cars, shooting anyone who wasn't American, putting lasers in space and playing some pretty sweet rawk guitar. Now all of this is BAD, sure, and it was a LIE too. But for an 8 year old boy in Glasgow it was certainly cool. Every kid wanted to be an American in the 80s. Fact. These days America is just a confused skinny dude with horn-rimmed glasses trying to decide what to do with a bible.

Exchange Glasgow with a small town in North Germany, and it's spot on. :blush:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2012, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 24, 2012, 03:33:44 AM
It also sums up my feelings about America when I was a kid:

QuoteSee, when I was young, America was this big scary glamorous place that would fuck you up if you looked at it the wrong way. America existed in my head as a creature with Stallone's muscles, an eagle's head, Ronald Reagan's voice and a rocket launcher. In the 1980s, American culture fed me the idea that the USA was built on solid foundations of kissing beautiful girls, driving shit hot cars, shooting anyone who wasn't American, putting lasers in space and playing some pretty sweet rawk guitar. Now all of this is BAD, sure, and it was a LIE too. But for an 8 year old boy in Glasgow it was certainly cool. Every kid wanted to be an American in the 80s. Fact. These days America is just a confused skinny dude with horn-rimmed glasses trying to decide what to do with a bible.

Exchange Glasgow with a small town in North Germany, and it's spot on. :blush:

LOL, Now I don't know about all that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 24, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Sword of Rome was on sale at my local store so I bought it. Mostly because I like the time period, I have no real plans right now to play it. Is it any good?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2012, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 24, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Sword of Rome was on sale at my local store so I bought it. Mostly because I like the time period, I have no real plans right now to play it. Is it any good?

Hmmm, good question--Habs might know.  But I know there's an expansion kit available, so you may want to score that, just to feel OCD complete.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 24, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2012, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 24, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Sword of Rome was on sale at my local store so I bought it. Mostly because I like the time period, I have no real plans right now to play it. Is it any good?

Hmmm, good question--Habs might know.  But I know there's an expansion kit available, so you may want to score that, just to feel OCD complete.

This said it included the 5-player expansion (second printing and all).

Having a mounted board was nice, didn't expect that (until I picked up the box).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
Man, are there some sensitive ass fuckers over at BGG.  :lol:

CdM:  WARNED  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 25, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
Man, are there some sensitive ass fuckers over at BGG.  :lol:

CdM:  WARNED  :lol:

Was you in the Misogyny thread over there?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
CSW is going slower than old people fuck, so I can't even check to see what I missed.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2012, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 25, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
Man, are there some sensitive ass fuckers over at BGG.  :lol:

CdM:  WARNED  :lol:

Was you in the Misogyny thread over there?

No, even more fun:  Der Holocaust.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 25, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Punch was served.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game, so I bought some Munckin shit to get the kids board games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 28, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game, so I bought some Munckin shit to get the kids board games.

I hate this card:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fallthingsfangirl.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F02%2Fmunchkin2.jpg&hash=f4a30f40db79431d2b5b6987b4c80f14701abe6a)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2012, 08:55:13 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game,

You already have one.  :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 28, 2012, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 28, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game, so I bought some Munckin shit to get the kids board games.

I hate this card:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fallthingsfangirl.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F02%2Fmunchkin2.jpg&hash=f4a30f40db79431d2b5b6987b4c80f14701abe6a)

:wacko:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2012, 08:55:13 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game,

You already have one.  :mad:

Death Ride not for kids.  ;)   Cool your jets. :lol:

I have not found one at the operational level. None.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 28, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 28, 2012, 04:44:02 AM
Couldnt find a decent Kursk game, so I bought some Munckin shit to get the kids board games.

I hate this card:

*snip*

Some of those cards are funny as balls.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on June 28, 2012, 10:41:31 AM
Munchkin :yawn:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on June 30, 2012, 10:02:45 AM
I'm not really into the vampire scene but I finally bought Twilight Struggle.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 30, 2012, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 30, 2012, 10:02:45 AM
I'm not really into the vampire scene but I finally bought Twilight Struggle.

:lol:  TEAM MIKHAIL
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
Could no longer wait for CoolStuffInc to get their MMP shipment, so I ordered Angola! direct.  I so hate doing that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 05, 2012, 07:31:35 AM
so now with Kingdom of Heaven VASSAL module being out, does one have access to all resources to, well, PBEM it  with someone who has a physical copy?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 06, 2012, 06:02:33 AM
MMP is have a sale.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 06, 2012, 06:29:43 AM
Fucking CoolStuffInc's only problem is updating their calendar days after;  I put in an order on the 3rd, and then yesterday they announced GMT's Next War: Korea in stock.  When?  The fucking 3rd, of course.  Thanks, fellas.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2012, 12:33:34 PM
Got my copy of Angola.  Definitely a 4-player game, no two ways about it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 09, 2012, 01:43:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 06, 2012, 06:29:43 AM
Fucking CoolStuffInc's only problem is updating their calendar days after;  I put in an order on the 3rd, and then yesterday they announced GMT's Next War: Korea in stock.  When?  The fucking 3rd, of course.  Thanks, fellas.

omg they have it for $55? Even with shipping I would only be at its regular $80 price tag.

Too bad I must fiddle with CSI as they dont have Hungary in their shipping cost calculator, and I must set my location as Germany and e-mail them to NOT send it to Fritz.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on July 09, 2012, 01:54:19 AM
QuoteNew P500 Addition!
Our newest P500 addition is the latest volume (#3) in Volko Ruhnke's COIN Series. A Distant Plain takes 1 to 4 players into the Afghan conflict of today's headlines, this time in a unique collaboration between two top designers of boardgames on modern irregular warfare. A Distant Plain teams Volko Ruhnke, the award-winning designer of LABYRINTH-The War on Terror, with Brian Train, a designer with 20 years' experience creating influential simulations such as Algeria, Somalia Interventions, Shining Path, and many others.

www.gmtgames.com/p-416-a-distant-plain.aspx
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2012, 07:27:39 AM
More GMT
QuoteShipping: We have finished all the P500 and distributor shipping for both Next War: Korea and Red Winter. We have finished all P500 shipping for Ardennes' 44 and Reds, as well as the Dominant Species Card Game, this past Thursday. We'll start distributor shipments mid-week or so this week.

Charging:  We gave the office ladies a three day weekend this weekend, so I held off on the planned July 5-6 charge of Crown of Roses and Panzer. We'll charge those two starting tomorrow, July 9.

Future Charges:

July 19: Bloody April, Panzer Expansions 1 & 2.

I don't see anything on Andean Abyss, though.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 09, 2012, 07:43:38 AM
I discovered that a Hungarian shop is selling Assyrian Wars for cheap, a game I have been eyeing for quite a while.

I have ordered it.  :Embarrass:

It has rules and CB module online, I think what it is missing is scenario particularities.
Sooo, if at least two other people are feeling adventourous maybe we should attempt a PBEM.

Basically, it is Napoleonic Wars (and I mean that, the basic game mechanic is very much the same) with some economy added in, plus various unit abilities if you decide to use the advanced rules (like, by default, an archer unit is a unit which hits on, say, 1-3. With advanced rules, archer units get a separate first round of combat, horse archers get to shoot and retreat, heavy units cause extra losses, that kind of thing).

But the rules are not particularly easy, altough I recon that experience in multiplayer CDGs help a great deal.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2012, 10:03:12 AM
Grr, Andean Abyss isn't shipping until late July.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 09, 2012, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2012, 10:03:12 AM
Grr, Andean Abyss isn't shipping until late July.

Andy is taking e-mails from those who want to pick theirs up at WBC.   ;)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 09, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
Got my Kingdom of Heaven shipping notice! :yeah:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2012, 10:36:13 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 09, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
Got my Kingdom of Heaven shipping notice! :yeah:

Nice!  As soon as MMP opens up the orders for it, I'm pulling the trigger.  Really should get off my ass and do more pre-pub orders;  Ed's still accepting pre-pub orders for Fontenoy over at COA.

Chatted with GMT over the intrawebs;  they're still accepting the P500 price for Andean Abyss.  I figure what the hell.  Already did enough damage with CoolStuffInc today for Korea and some other goodies, might as well spread the love.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 09, 2012, 10:48:35 AM
I very much regret for ignoring the nerd drooling you people did here. Both Kingdom of Heaven, and Next War: Korea look neat :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 09, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
Seriously, Kingdom of Heaven is an excellent topic, has a good pedigree (CDG family) and comes from a designer who is known as an excellent player of CDGs (Scott de Brestian) so might realize a few of the major pitfalls to avoid.

That it comes with nine different scenarios is the best part, though.  The variability between the scenarios and the different cards used for each ensures a very healthy amount of replay value.  I'll be playing the shit out of it at WBC, most likely.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 09, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
Dude, put up your team's roster already.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 04:42:52 AM
so I have properly read the Assyrian Wars rules and set it up to gaze at the map and counters. Going to do a solitaire test, too.

I think the lot of initial grief over the rules must have been resolved with the 1.3 version of them (which was also the one in the box btw). At least I had no major problems.
However, there are little expection rules, For the People style, so multiple noobs sitting down to a table to tackle a campaign? Ugh that must take a while.

But as I said, the core of the game is Napoleonic Wars, with economy added. Your cities, and your trade (you can place land traders to the trade box and/or place raiders there, and move your ships to trade zones), and tribute give you an income level, which gives you a number of CPs you get each impulse.
And you play a card. You either use it to buff your CP count with it's CP value, or you play the event, but the event has a CP cost you must pay from your income. So you do get to do less if you play an event.

There are more minors to influence than in Nappy Wars of course (btw, the two jewish states get to be influence for half price :D ).

Also, while the advanced unit rules give you a minor batch of more small rules to remember, and you certainly have a good dose of that anyway, I think they are great. Heavy Infantry can really hurt stuff, and if you mass enough of them, they decrease the efficiency of missile troops. You can be potentially really annoying with a force of exclusively horse archers or chariots (altough chariots can only ambush if accompanied by at least some horse archers). The number available of the various types depend on the countries of course.
Also there are mercenaries, of which you get a random bunch each turn you can hire.

Sooo, the game certainly aims to be a playable simulation of the era, and I think it succeeds, but barely, and is not for the faint of hearth. 

I would still be interested in a PBEM attempt of it however. Deporting masses of Jews to boost your economy fits Languish well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 04:44:23 AM
and more importantly, is Coolstuffinc going to have Kingdom of Heaven?

At the worst possible timing, I have got my new card for my USD account which still has like a couple hundred bucks.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 06:49:35 AM
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/boardgame-review-assyrian-wars.htm
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 07:07:48 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 04:44:23 AM
and more importantly, is Coolstuffinc going to have Kingdom of Heaven?

Probably, but not for a while.  MMP isn't the most friendliest to wholesalers and distributors.  They're not exactly a priority for MMP.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 11, 2012, 07:22:25 AM
Your Kickstarter Lunacy of the day. Enjoy!

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/811447/latest-update/page/1
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on July 11, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
:huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2012, 07:22:25 AM
Your Kickstarter Lunacy of the day. Enjoy!

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/811447/latest-update/page/1

That thread starter is is about 4 Languishites rolled into one.  You go ahead and decide which ones I'm talking about.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
lol that chick regularly steals people's money it seems:

http://ishrahsan.livejournal.com/51945.html
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
Got my copies of:
Next War: Korea
Red Winter (wanted to kill Finns, lulz),
1989 (what the hell, gonna see if there's an Execute All Lawyers In Poland card in there somewhere), and
Modern War 1: Red Dragon/Green Crescent .

Goddamn summer publishing schedule.  So dangerous for crackheads.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on July 11, 2012, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
lol that chick regularly steals people's money it seems:

http://ishrahsan.livejournal.com/51945.html

Of course, you're citing someone who still uses livejournal...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 11, 2012, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
lol that chick regularly steals people's money it seems:

http://ishrahsan.livejournal.com/51945.html

Of course, you're citing someone who still uses livejournal...

well the guy also gave $250 in advance  to that woman to make a custom crane, when the woman admitted she has never made a crane, ever. So obviously he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Doesn't negate the fact that the kickstarter appears to be bluffing people out of their money with fake projects.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on July 11, 2012, 01:24:07 PM
Oh I agree - just really wanted to bash livejournal. :lol:

Also cane not crane.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 11, 2012, 01:24:07 PM
Oh I agree - just really wanted to bash livejournal. :lol:

:D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 11, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
1989 (what the hell, gonna see if there's an Execute All Lawyers In Poland card in there somewhere),

Nope.  Not in there.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
1989 has a Li Peng counter.  :lol:  Rat bastard.  :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: szmik on July 13, 2012, 02:56:50 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2012, 07:22:25 AM
Your Kickstarter Lunacy of the day. Enjoy!

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/811447/latest-update/page/1

People are stupid, what's new? :nelson:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on July 13, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
1989 has a Li Peng counter.  :lol:  Rat bastard.  :mad:

It also has Trololo man and the Hoff. Not as counters, but still.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 13, 2012, 03:23:41 AM
Quote from: Maladict on July 13, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
1989 has a Li Peng counter.  :lol:  Rat bastard.  :mad:

It also has Trololo man and the Hoff. Not as counters, but still.

:yeahright:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Put my order in for Panzer..... <_<
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Put my order in for Panzer..... <_<

:lol:  I ordered it and Andean Abyss today as well.



Oooh, I forgot to tell you: scored unpunched, mint copies of AH's Submarine and GDW's Road To The Rhine for $18 each.  Pristine copies. 

Let's hear it for estate sales.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 13, 2012, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 06:49:35 AM
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/boardgame-review-assyrian-wars.htm

Not that any of you lazy gits care, but I have been testing this on my own.

What a game this could have been! CDG, multiplayer, interesting not well-covered era, rich historical flavour, distinctivly different player countries, good detail in combat via unit types.
It has all that, but the badly written rules slow it down to almost monster game speed, while it certainly is not a monster. It's not that the rules are incomplete or bad, but somehow they manage to hide important stuff pretty well. I think most of it is the translation from German.

I STILL would like a PBEM game :P I think I have covered enough of it to spot if anyone else would be making a serious rule mistake, but I can't really recommend it to be bought for F2F gaming, unless you know a guy who already has experience in it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on July 13, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
I'm up for a PBEM game. Is it on CB? Where can the rules/pictures be found?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 13, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 13, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
I'm up for a PBEM game. Is it on CB? Where can the rules/pictures be found?

you can find the living rules and CB module here:

living rules: http://www.ugg.de/bg/AW/AWRules.pdf

CB module: http://www.ugg.de/bg/AW/Grafic/AWcyber.zip

What is missing is the scenarios information, and a pretty useful 2-pages summary of charts and stuff, which I can provide if we have enough people, of course.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Put my order in for Panzer..... <_<

:lol:  I ordered it and Andean Abyss today as well.



Oooh, I forgot to tell you: scored unpunched, mint copies of AH's Submarine and GDW's Road To The Rhine for $18 each.  Pristine copies. 

Let's hear it for estate sales.

Very nice.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Put my order in for Panzer..... <_<

:lol:  I ordered it and Andean Abyss today as well.



Oooh, I forgot to tell you: scored unpunched, mint copies of AH's Submarine and GDW's Road To The Rhine for $18 each.  Pristine copies. 

Let's hear it for estate sales.

Got the rules to Panzer off GMT's site. Very familar considering how long ago I played MBT/IDF. I played those two quite a bit along with GDW's Assault series.

and yes reading those rules started an itch. You know the kind. I have ordered MBT and IDF from noble Knight  <_< . They will be in my possession again.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
and yes reading those rules started an itch. You know the kind. I have ordered MBT and IDF from noble Knight  <_< . They will be in my possession again.

:lol:  Only thing worse than a crackhead is a recidivist crackhead.

They aren't too expensive, are they? They were some of the last mass-printed titles from AH's own shop.  Should be tons of copies around.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
with GDW's Assault series.

Always wanted those and the Third World War series.  :glare:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
and yes reading those rules started an itch. You know the kind. I have ordered MBT and IDF from noble Knight  <_< . They will be in my possession again.

:lol:  Only thing worse than a crackhead is a recidivist crackhead.

They aren't too expensive, are they? They were some of the last mass-printed titles from AH's own shop.  Should be tons of copies around.

MBT 55.00
IDF 85.00  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
with GDW's Assault series.

Third World War series.  :glare:

Arent cheap from what I've seen :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
No, they're not;  frigging outrageous for that whole set.

$85 for IDF?  What the fuck, did it come shrink wrapped in Siegy's foreskin?  Damn.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 14, 2012, 09:04:18 PM
I dont know what's up with IDF

BGG Marketplace
New  AU $120.00  13-Jul-2012   
Like New  €80.00  2-May-2011   
Like New  €95.00  4-Nov-2007

NW 75.00-80.00
Noble Knight 85.00 s/o now  :P
T&T 65.00 s/o 

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 17, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
Anybody familiar with the Vae Victus games GMT distributes here in the states? Aspern-Essling looks interesting, but I just don't know.

And before somebody says buy them while over there, it is still more expensive than getting them through a US retailer.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 18, 2012, 12:49:50 AM
Bored tonight. Farting around with a revised OOB of Bloodbath at Kursk.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
I noticed that forums whipping boy Rinella has formed his own wargame company.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 18, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
I noticed that forums whipping boy Rinella has formed his own wargame company.

What forums?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
HEY ELEVEN WHATEVER!

MBT -40 bux unpunched, 35 used.

http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/avhimbtmabat1.html

IDF?

75 there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 18, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
I noticed that forums whipping boy Rinella has formed his own wargame company.

What forums?

CSW.

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.1dd70cb3

Or if you meant the bitchiness, BGG. Where nerds menstruate.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 18, 2012, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 18, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
I noticed that forums whipping boy Rinella has formed his own wargame company.

What forums?

CSW.

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.1dd70cb3

Meh
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 18, 2012, 07:44:23 PM
Don't forget to submit your Charles S Roberts Awards ballots.

http://charlesrobertsawards.com/voting.php

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 18, 2012, 07:46:25 PM
I'll just flood them with all Ty Bomba votes.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 04:50:44 PM
Been reading MMP's HoD rules and the changes they made to the original PB. Looks good and some nice changes. Also downloaded an assload of shit from Imaginative Strategist....again



Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 04:50:44 PM
Been reading MMP's HoD rules and the changes they made to the original PB. Looks good and some nice changes. Also downloaded an assload of shit from Imaginative Strategist....again

I've considered it from time to time, but I've never really been interested in it, as--and I know none of you fuckers will believe me--we played the total ass out of PB/PL back in the day, all the time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 19, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
My brother had that Arab-Israeli version of PB/PL. As the little, little brother, I got to command the crappy Arab shit. I remember being stuck with PLO trash in once scenario.

FUCK YOU GUYS, I'M GONNA GO PLAY MATTEL FOOTBALL.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 04:50:44 PM
Been reading MMP's HoD rules and the changes they made to the original PB. Looks good and some nice changes. Also downloaded an assload of shit from Imaginative Strategist....again

I've considered it from time to time, but I've never really been interested in it, as--and I know none of you fuckers will believe me--we played the total ass out of PB/PL back in the day, all the time.

My conern is they revamped a whole lot more than was needed in HoD. Some good things in it to be sure. The old PB/PL counters wont transition too well. IMO MMP shot themselves in the foot.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 19, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
My brother had that Arab-Israeli version of PB/PL. As the little, little brother, I got to command the crappy Arab shit. I remember being stuck with PLO trash in once scenario.

FUCK YOU GUYS, I'M GONNA GO PLAY MATTEL FOOTBALL.

I still like the PB/PL/AIW games alot. While in their stock form they are outdated. But IMO they got a lot of things right. The good thing is their is still a diehard community behind them. A lot of the short commings have been addressed. Imaginative Strategist has a good site for PB stuff. 


Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 10:47:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 19, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
FUCK YOU GUYS, I'M GONNA GO PLAY MATTEL FOOTBALL.

You member dont you.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cdn.turner.com%2Fsi%2Fmultimedia%2Fphoto_gallery%2F0808%2Fmattel.madden%2Fimages%2Fmattel-1977.jpg&hash=a2a1d1c2ef526e8ced1c7fbe1cc4b3f1523a0b45)

but do you remember this....
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kshs.org%2Fcool3%2Fgraphics%2Fftballgameclose.jpg&hash=734a19892eafc4d7cce3d6d5f26dd34c4b5578ce)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijCNk0PqaCs&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL55D8003C341DB37C
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
I still like the PB/PL/AIW games alot. While in their stock form they are outdated. But IMO they got a lot of things right. The good thing is their is still a diehard community behind them. A lot of the short commings have been addressed. Imaginative Strategist has a good site for PB stuff.

Yeah, very revolutionary at the time, but a lot of other systems on the tactical/platoon level have outpaced it.  Still a viable game system, though.

Had a ton of fun with that system in high school and college, especially with PL.  So much Brit hardware.  But the AIW game is a blast as well, lots of stuff in there that's still only rarely addressed with more modern Arab-Israeli treatments.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 19, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
I still like the PB/PL/AIW games alot. While in their stock form they are outdated. But IMO they got a lot of things right. The good thing is their is still a diehard community behind them. A lot of the short commings have been addressed. Imaginative Strategist has a good site for PB stuff.

Yeah, very revolutionary at the time, but a lot of other systems on the tactical/platoon level have outpaced it.  Still a viable game system, though.

Had a ton of fun with that system in high school and college, especially with PL.  So much Brit hardware.  But the AIW game is a blast as well, lots of stuff in there that's still only rarely addressed with more modern Arab-Israeli treatments.

Good points. Too many modules, add-ons and the like nowadays. Seems more a marketing ploy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
LOLZ, catching up on all my CSW threads;  Habbaku fights censorship.  Power to the pipple, Habs!  :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 04:32:40 PM
http://www.tsww-online.com/

?

15 miles to the hex WWII stuff. Website is a giant CLUSTERFUCK though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Ed, that is a revamp/republish of the Europa series.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 20, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
LOLZ, catching up on all my CSW threads;  Habbaku fights censorship.  Power to the pipple, Habs!  :D

DG can eat me.  Pitcavage is a bit too large for them, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Ed, that is a revamp/republish of the Europa series.

Lol. I think I'll bail on looking at that then.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 05:35:38 PM
DG needs to get Ty Bomba back on there. That was when the place was interesting.

I think DG have him chained to a desk, editing magazines for 20 hours a day.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
As much as I love CSW, it is a pretty shit forum layout, particularly when it comes to searching for specific topics and items.

I mean, I think it's great how everything is archived back to the Clinton Administration, but I think a good 30 or 40% of CSW are made up of "I'm sure this has been asked before, but" posts.

And another 30 or 40% are posts in the HMS/GRD folder about how Total War counters are at the printers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 05:57:18 PM

I caught up with that Total war thread at BBG a couple of days ago. Now that is comedy.

I'm amused at CSW. REAL NAMES ONLY!  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 20, 2012, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 05:35:38 PM
DG needs to get Ty Bomba back on there. That was when the place was interesting.

I think DG have him chained to a desk, editing magazines for 20 hours a day.

I'm still pissed at DG for Guards Tank. A gaping assfuck of a game.

But Ty was a big help with that. Playtest my ass.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic771502_lg.jpg&hash=dcb42da07f599f23c9996529106879adae5210b9)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
Sometimes, I think Ty Bomba is the game industry's equivalent of Ricky Watters.  For who? For what?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 06:03:33 PM
I miss Command magazine. Not that stupid chess game issue though.  :yucky:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 20, 2012, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 20, 2012, 06:03:33 PM
I miss Command magazine. Not that stupid chess game issue though.  :yucky:


I liked that one too. Not the chess one that is.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 20, 2012, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 20, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
LOLZ, catching up on all my CSW threads;  Habbaku fights censorship.  Power to the pipple, Habs!  :D

DG can eat me.  Pitcavage is a bit too large for them, though.

I cant resist digging on Guards Tank even in the SS Panzer ( Command Mag game) thread or any that the subject comes up.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2012, 06:28:42 PM
Well, you have a substantially...softer...approach than the PitSavage.   He's like Berkut and grumbler's love child, after a four day bender on meth.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 20, 2012, 06:45:13 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 01:21:34 AM
Uh-Oh look what came in the Brown Truck.... :yes:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418695_4232871911260_178879009_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
Good man.  Get a little refresher course in before Panzer comes out the door.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 21, 2012, 07:40:46 AM
You fuckers are pushing me towards blowing 200 bucks on ebay. FUCKERS.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 07:50:36 AM
LOL, I went even older Old School than ElevenBravo this week...$17.99

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1372315_md.jpg&hash=a38a07ba4babc1595f6b23e6b8087b420c0a6e39)





Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 07:50:36 AM
LOL, I went even older Old School than ElevenBravo this week...$17.99

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1372315_md.jpg&hash=a38a07ba4babc1595f6b23e6b8087b420c0a6e39)

I  memeber that one. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2012, 07:40:46 AM
You fuckers are pushing me towards blowing 200 bucks on ebay. FUCKERS.

What you eyeballing?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 21, 2012, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2012, 07:40:46 AM
You fuckers are pushing me towards blowing 200 bucks on ebay. FUCKERS.

What you eyeballing?

I'm in window shopping mode.

HEY! THAT LOOKS GOOD. NO! THAT LOOKS BETTER. WARGARBL
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
I  memeber that one. :thumbsup:

I'm all about M-60s and M-113s...Only thing that's missing is the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.

Love NATO-WP stuff from the late 70s-early 80s.  God Bless General Al Haig.

I think it comes from learning about female mud wrestling in Stripes at roughly the same time I discovered masturbation.   :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
I  memeber that one. :thumbsup:

I'm all about M-60s and M-113s...Only thing that's missing is the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.

Love NATO-WP stuff from the late 70s-early 80s.  God Bless General Al Haig.

I think it comes from learning about female mud wrestling in Stripes at roughly the same time I discovered masturbation.   :lol:

Been downloading additional US, brit, french, USMC, chinese, russian, and israeli data crads and couters. Most are from Jim Day.  :yes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 22, 2012, 01:48:10 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 21, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 21, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
I  memeber that one. :thumbsup:

I'm all about M-60s and M-113s...Only thing that's missing is the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.

Love NATO-WP stuff from the late 70s-early 80s.  God Bless General Al Haig.

I think it comes from learning about female mud wrestling in Stripes at roughly the same time I discovered masturbation.   :lol:

YOU discovered masturbation? How American to claim that you discovered something that other people knew about long before you were even born. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2012, 07:15:32 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 22, 2012, 01:48:10 AM
YOU discovered masturbation? How American to claim that you discovered something that other people knew about long before you were even born. :rolleyes:

I patented it.  Gimme my royalties.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 22, 2012, 09:05:01 PM
Digging into IDF, I had forgotten how sexy these M51 look. Something about these.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_eQNPu6zzxaU%2FSHD9Nq04GJI%2FAAAAAAAACzI%2FvyM5r1sn038%2Fs1600%2F201.jpg&hash=fa61ba000ae5e392e3b970f2f7cd8ab1cfcfa84f)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2012, 06:48:10 AM
July 22 Update from GMT

QuoteHi guys!   

We have a few updates for you today on the charging and shipping schedules, as well as an updated longer-term tentative print schedule.
 
Short-Term Bad News on the Printing Front:
Tony just let me know a few days ago that the printer who is doing many of the components for our August releases (Andean Abyss, Panzer, Bloody April, 1917)  is having some weather-related humidity issues at the plant which require that they lengthen their drying processes to make sure we get the quality we want. We hate delays, but we had this problem once before and were very happy with the products that the company delivered after their extended drying process. So, at the end of the day, we're happy for their concern for quality control, although we regret the delay this will cause. We don't know for certain exactly when the games will arrive at this point, but should know within a couple of weeks once the printer has boxed everything up and we have an inbound ship date. Again, sorry for the delay
.

Speaking of recent releases, we're really pleased by the positive feedback from so many of you on our summer releases, especially for those games with new systems, like Dominant Species: The Card Game and Red Winter, and for the excellent response to the updated designs Next War: Korea and Ardennes '44. We hope all of you are finding some cool new games to play this summer, and that hopefully at least some of them say "GMT" on the box!

For you guys travelling to the World Boardgaming Championships next week, Tony and Andy will both be there, along with a bunch of GMT designers and developers. We hope you'll take a few minutes as you have time between games to drop by the GMT booth or some of our demos and say "hi."

Thanks, guys, as always, for your support of GMT!

Enjoy the games!


Gene


QuoteTentative Production Schedule 

Here's what the current tentative game release schedule looks like:

Mid-Late August, 2012:
Andean Abyss
Bloody April, 1917
Panzer + Expansions 1 and 2

September, 2012:
Crown of Roses
Saints in Armor

October, 2012:
Fading Glory
Space Empires: Close Encounters
Mr. Madison's War

November, 2012:
The Hunters (for Consimworld Press)
Pax Baltica
 
December, 2012:
Commands & Colors Napoleonics, 2nd Printing
C & C Napoleonics: The Russian Army

1st Quarter, 2012:
Iron & Oak
Rebel Raiders on the High Seas

Unscheduled for Now:

Battle for Normandy Expansion Pack
The Supreme Commander (Once we get a new developer and address one balance issue, we'll add this one back to the schedule)
Great Campaigns of the Thirty Years War (Ben is making good progress on this one - we hope to see it back on the print schedule very soon)

The only deal I know with the Normandy expansion pack is the designer is still tweaking some scenario issues.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 23, 2012, 07:03:27 AM
Pax Baltica? I has it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 23, 2012, 08:03:16 AM
Iron and Oak looks faboo.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on July 23, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
I am preparing some Call of Cthulhu. Among other things I bought and read the campaign Tatters of the King. It seems to be awesome. Hastur la vista, baby.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on July 24, 2012, 08:08:24 AM
Any of you guys played Corps Command: Dawn's Early Light http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38471/corps-command-dawns-early-light (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38471/corps-command-dawns-early-light) or any of the World at War games http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25729/world-at-war-eisenbach-gap (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25729/world-at-war-eisenbach-gap)? Would anyone recommend one of them over the other? I have a hankering for some WW3 action (though I doubt either game can be well-balanced; I have it on good authority that a Soviet T-72 formation can cut through an American armored division like a hot knife through bullshit).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
Ed's got Dawn's Early Light, so I can't speak to that; I've got most of the WAW games (except the one in the US, that's just fucking stupid--nobody games Red Dawn :mad:), and while they're not nearly as meatier as MBT, they still drill down to the tactical level.  Cool thing is, you can futz around with a variety of nationalities, like the Belgians, Canucks, Poles and Swedetards. 

Very light rules-wise, good components (the maps are mounted) and counters (even though Ed hates the font and thinks they're too "busy"), but it's a nice little system to burn your brain out with.  The rules system allows you to get as chromey  as you want, like air power and landmines, so it's only as deep as you want it to be.

Not a bad system, very scenario-driven.   My fave is Blood & Bridges;  BOAR, bitches.  Death of the 1st Panzer is a neat little expansion, too.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 26, 2012, 05:34:08 PM
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/57937/the-doomsday-project

Dont know if I can justify to myself getting this on a topic that never happened.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on July 26, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
I'll pre-order it if it ever hits the P500 list, but I don't expect to ever see it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 26, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
I have faith in the popularity of Starkweather stuff;  I could see it moving fast on the P500 parade.

Then again, it is MMP.  You guys been following the BBG MMP-bash-a-thon?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/833250/whats-going-on-with-mmp

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 27, 2012, 01:30:18 AM


Quoteyour company needs to print that game, or risk jeopardizing customer trust in the whole P500 system.

What a moron. The days of SPI like printing of games just to print games is long over. Companies would go belly-up in no time.

btw just order Panzer '44, Mechwar '77, and October War. A very definition of why SPI went tits up in my opinion.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 27, 2012, 01:48:20 AM
I have ordered the new Thunderbolt Apache Leader solitaire game (from the UGG shop). I really like the latest edition of Hornet Leader, I read this one is even better.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 27, 2012, 02:07:38 AM
I hate  browsing BGG.  :mad: I see stuff like this and want to start making counters to update the game.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/580922_4257823455033_213734811_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 29, 2012, 01:53:53 AM
I kind of went off the deep end this month...

Panzer, MBT, IDF, Panzer '44, MechWar '77, October War, Crisis: Sinai, White Death, Suez '73.  :blush:

and yes Seedy, I pre-ordered the II SS Panzer sector from Chris.   :menace:

and I like the Totenkopf guys.......
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 29, 2012, 07:41:45 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 29, 2012, 01:53:53 AM
I kind of went off the deep end this month...

Panzer, MBT, IDF, Panzer '44, MechWar '77, October War, Crisis: Sinai, White Death, Suez '73.  :blush:

Yeah, I've gone off the deep end as well the last two months.  Too many titles available + too many job rejections = depression-based impulse buying.

Where'd you score the Crisis: Sinai from?  How much did it set you back?  I know it's been sorta tough to find the last couple years.

Quoteand yes Seedy, I pre-ordered the II SS Panzer sector from Chris.   :menace:

and I like the Totenkopf guys.......

That doesn't surprise me.  You strike as a Totenkopf kinda guy.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 29, 2012, 08:02:56 AM
The counters are extra white on black for them.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 29, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 29, 2012, 07:41:45 AM

Where'd you score the Crisis: Sinai from?  How much did it set you back?  I know it's been sorta tough to find the last couple years.



Off BGG. It was 42.00 with ship. 

http://boardgamegeek.com/geekstore.php3?action=listforsale&gameid=2138
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 31, 2012, 06:42:10 AM
Ordered a bunch of Napoleonic stuff. Mostly Vae Victis stuff that has die cut counters.

MOUNT MY OWN COUNTERS? WHAT IS THIS.... ART CLASS?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on July 31, 2012, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2012, 06:42:10 AM
Ordered a bunch of Napoleonic stuff. Mostly Vae Victis stuff that has die cut counters.

MOUNT MY OWN COUNTERS? WHAT IS THIS.... ART CLASS?

It's not as bad as you think

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/404003_4275393454272_827562103_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on July 31, 2012, 10:21:57 AM
Has anyone ever ordered stuff from UGG.de?

I mean, neither of the two stuff I ordered are designated as out of stock, I ordered on Thursday, and no feedback yet. Yeah, probably at least one IS out of stock, so whatever. But I wrote to them, asking kindly if I will get an "it shipped" e-mail. That was yesterday. No answer.
All I ever got was an auto-message about my order.

Just meh. I could have ordered from the UK for tincy-wincy bit more and they promised to ship the day after ordering. I can't tolerate bad service when there are decent alternatives
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 31, 2012, 02:22:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 31, 2012, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2012, 06:42:10 AM
Ordered a bunch of Napoleonic stuff. Mostly Vae Victis stuff that has die cut counters.

MOUNT MY OWN COUNTERS? WHAT IS THIS.... ART CLASS?

It's not as bad as you think

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/404003_4275393454272_827562103_n.jpg)

It is bad enough I've got glittered up My Little Ponies on my fridge. I get enough arts and crafts to last a lifetime.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2012, 12:27:28 PM
I've been buying a wargame for every job rejection I get. :unsure:

I've bought a lot of wargames the last few months.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PRC on August 01, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
I bought Dominant Species the other day, it's pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on August 01, 2012, 02:01:51 PM
What's wrong with arts and craft?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 01, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
All shit is in other than White Death and Suez '73 coming from noble. Those SPI flat trays (MechWar '77 and Panzer '44) are a fucking blast from the past.

Crisis Sinai what a gorgeous map.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 01, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
Crisis Sinai what a gorgeous map.

yeah, as far as Muddled East maps go, that's always been one of the better ones; some people have complained it is a little too "busy", but I like it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 07:01:42 AM
Cool Stuff summer sale.

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_summerSale2012.php

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on August 02, 2012, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: PRC on August 01, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
I bought Dominant Species the other day, it's pretty sweet.

I bought it yesterday, do I really have to go on vacation tomorrow?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 02, 2012, 08:40:48 AM
The package from those UGG fellows arrived today, but no answer to my previous e-mail yet. :D

Oh well.

One week is pretty nice going from Germany, figures they posted it right after the day I ordered. Nice.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PRC on August 02, 2012, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Maladict on August 02, 2012, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: PRC on August 01, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
I bought Dominant Species the other day, it's pretty sweet.

I bought it yesterday, do I really have to go on vacation tomorrow?

I've really enjoyed it, the length can be a turn off but it's easy to learn (the rules are easy to learn anyways - learning the strategies, what to do and when is tougher).  The rulebook is very well written as well with some great examples. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
FYI, CoolStuffInc is doing a board game summer sale:  only real item of interest is GMT's Fighting Formations: GD Motorized Infantry Division is knocked down to $42.99.

I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 11:15:39 AM
As Europa turns.....

QuoteWe have received a possible print slot from the original printer. The start date is for August 29th with the same 5-8 days of print time. I am very disappointed in these dates and followed up with calls to their office. They felt the best they could do was to break up the package and offered to print the charts beginning August 21st and have it done by the 24th.

We had sent requests for bid on our print jobs to 22 printers late last week after the talks with the original printer. We have received 10 responses. While I had asked for print slots in each request, only 5 printers actually gave dates they could begin printing. While all of the 10 responses were higher in cost than the original shop, several were close enough to the original bid to consider. The best looking bid at this point can begin printing on August 20th and would finish on or before the 30th.

I will be calling each of the responding print shops for clarification on dates, costs and guarantees. I hope we can get something better but if the August 20th date holds up, we will go with that one. For those of you who remember the disaster with the Wavell's War maps, you can imagine that we put a high value on guarantees or reprint policy. We have had several offers from friends of out of state printers who could probably do a fine job, but if something went wrong, we do not have real recourse at a distance.

We will put up the first of the samples I mentioned late today or tomorrow. This will be the UIC or Unit Identification Chart that has been requested by a number of callers. This will be followed by charts and tables every day or two as we move to a print date.

Also, I hate USPS.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 11:15:39 AM
As Europa turns.....

:lol:  Man, I've been following this story since Winston Hamilton passed away--I honestly think I got one of his last emails, days before he croaked--and this shit just gets more hilarious as time goes on.

I hope it's never printed, because then it would be like your favorite daytime soap getting cancelled.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
FYI, CoolStuffInc is doing a board game summer sale:  only real item of interest is GMT's Fighting Formations: GD Motorized Infantry Division is knocked down to $42.99.

I highly recommend it.

I see they also have the new WaR for 90.00 bucks. I have read a lot that say Decision veered from the original. BGG has the old one rated higher.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I see they also have the new WaR for 90.00 bucks. I have read a lot that say Decision veered from the original.

I rest on Habbaku's judgement on that one;  if he says the 2nd Ed is still wonky even with the changes, it's still wonky.
As much as I would love to pull the trigger on that AND the Hurtgen extension, I'm not taking any chances on a Decision Games production.

You want a Bulge fix, get GMT's Ardennes '44;  people are simply raving about it.  The 2nd Ed reprint is out.

QuoteBGG has the old one rated higher.

I'm loathe to trust those ratings over there;  people don't always rate their games, and new games don't always level off in their ratings.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:46:15 AM

You want a Bulge fix, get GMT's Ardennes '44;  people are simply raving about it.  The 2nd Ed reprint is out.


That one would have would have made the last round, but I couldnt bypass White Death.  I did a lot of reading on A'44. It's at the top of my hit list for next round. Same guy who did Caucasus Campaign and Ukraine '43.  :yes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 01:46:23 PM
QuoteAlso, I hate USPS.

The tracker said a note was left yesterday. I look for it and see NOTHING. So I go to the post office like the tracker said to and they can't find my package. So I go home in FULL FROTH and see the postal dude plopping the package on my doorstep.

Me: WHARGARBL

Fuck the Post Office.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 01:46:23 PM
Fuck the Post Office.

I dunno, man...my dazzling urbanite carrier lugged her overweight and diabetic ass up three flights of stairs in this fucking heat to bring me my copy of Carrier Battles today.

So it must be you.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
They know I hate their mail misplacing asses.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
They know I hate their mail misplacing asses.

Their govmint workers. What do you expect? :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 07:38:41 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
They know I hate their mail misplacing asses.

Their govmint workers. What do you expect? :lol:

I've never had an issue with the USPS;  now, the Big Brown Truck, on the other hand...crushed a couple poster frames once, and they totally annihilated a pristine and totally cherry 1930's Royal KHM typewriter for me in February.  Totally shattered the cast-iron in the frame, and the miracle worker I send my typewriters to couldn't save it.  Went from collector's item to spare parts.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 04, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
They bent my wookie.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 04, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 07:38:41 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
They know I hate their mail misplacing asses.

Their govmint workers. What do you expect? :lol:

I've never had an issue with the USPS;  now, the Big Brown Truck, on the other hand...crushed a couple poster frames once, and they totally annihilated a pristine and totally cherry 1930's Royal KHM typewriter for me in February.  Totally shattered the cast-iron in the frame, and the miracle worker I send my typewriters to couldn't save it.  Went from collector's item to spare parts.

Opposite here. Never had issues with UPS or Fedex. Two big things UPS has delivered for me was an engine block and manual transmission. Always called to coordinate a meet and loaded the shit on my truck for me. I do have the same UPS and Fedex guy all the time. UPS dude finally won over clyde (dog), who hated the big brown truck. Now clyde exepts and gets a treat everytime the UPS drops something off. win win

UPS on the other hand....I know the local postmaster and had a talk with him about his lazy ass rural carrier govmint worker. Havent had a problem since.

UPS/FEDEX for the win IMO.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 04, 2012, 12:52:12 PM
Anyhoo

Bear's Claw looks interesting. Kind of reminds me of the old AG South quad games.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on August 04, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
I now picture Seedy as a hoarder surrounded by unpunched tokens, type writers and cats.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 04, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
I now picture Seedy as a hoarder surrounded by unpunched tokens, type writers and cats.

Well then you'd be kinda sorta wrong.  :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on August 04, 2012, 02:18:17 PM
You're right. Your mother would never let you be so messy as to be a hoarder.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 04, 2012, 02:18:17 PM
You're right. Your mother would never let you be so messy as to be a hoarder.

SON OF A
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 04, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
Too Busy??
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Not bad there, scooter.  Have you tried using more white or off-white for the smaller digits, or do they lose their resolution?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 04, 2012, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Not bad there, scooter.  Have you tried using more white or off-white for the smaller digits, or do they lose their resolution?

White seems to be the ticket. Off white is the second one.

Cut some numbers.
For ref
The 3 - T ; is unit strength/ mobility (tracked)
Top left white box: AT factor 2hex/1hex
Bottom left #'s: Top is Conventional fire factor and bottom is Troop Quality.
Bottom right #'s: Top is Assault factor and bottom is Defense Factor.

I'll see if I can post some actual size pics


Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 05, 2012, 06:01:58 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 04, 2012, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Not bad there, scooter.  Have you tried using more white or off-white for the smaller digits, or do they lose their resolution?

White seems to be the ticket.

There ya go.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 06, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
Comparisons to 5/8 and 1/2 inch counter.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/406323_4300787529108_913535210_n.jpg)

I'll post a small battle map of the Nafekh area when it gets done.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on August 06, 2012, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2012, 07:38:41 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 03, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
They know I hate their mail misplacing asses.

Their govmint workers. What do you expect? :lol:

I've never had an issue with the USPS;  now, the Big Brown Truck, on the other hand...crushed a couple poster frames once, and they totally annihilated a pristine and totally cherry 1930's Royal KHM typewriter for me in February.  Totally shattered the cast-iron in the frame, and the miracle worker I send my typewriters to couldn't save it.  Went from collector's item to spare parts.



Never had issues with UPS back when they actually had you sign for stuff.  If they couldn't catch you at home, they'd leave a card saying when they'd be back, and if you weren't going to be there at that time you could mark one of several optionson the card--pick up your package at a UPS store, authorize them to leave it with a neighbor, authorize them to leave in on your property without a signature, and a couple others I don't remember now.  If I wasn't going to be there, I always had at least one neighbor I trusted enough to have UPS leave it with.  Now, though, they just leave the package on your doorstep.  I've had stuff left out in the rain, and once, we were home, but didn't here them knock, and they left the package leaning on the screen door where we couldn't see it from inside, so when we opened the screen, the package got knocked down the stairs.  Grrrr.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 07, 2012, 03:32:23 PM
Looks like they settled on final artwork, 11B....very AH old-school.

https://www.gmtgames.com/p-323-panzer.aspx

Scroll down for the expansions as well.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 07, 2012, 04:43:33 PM
Very nice  :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 07, 2012, 04:53:47 PM
Yeah, gave me a PanzerBlitz boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 07, 2012, 07:21:52 PM
In case my avatar isn't enough indication, Kingdom of Heaven has proven to be a lot of fun.

Angola, as Berkut will no doubt attest to, is probably the best 4-player game on the market right now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
The latest on the Europa saga...

QuoteOn August 9, 2012, in News, by Gar ....A fire broke out at the Fitz Apartments here in Aurora, Colorado. Two of our residents died and as many as 25 were injured fleeing what was reported to be arson. Jason Long, our German OB researcher, escaped through a window. Arthur Goodwin, a principal in the company was working with Gar at his house in central Denver. Neither of them were injured but the company may be affected.

Our inventory of games and Total War components were apparently not directly touched by the fire but smoke and water reached the ground level, where our material is stored. While Arthur and I arrived by 11:30pm, no one was allowed in the building. I reached an arson investigator with the Aurora Fire Department who explained that there is water and smoke in the storage area but could give us no further details. We may be given limited access shortly to access the damage.

Since the building is a crime scene and a suspect has been taken into custody, renters may not remove material at this time. The damage to the building is extensive enough that the residents and renters will not be able to remain there. We will update you as soon as we have more information. We are deeply saddened by the deaths and injuries. Aurora has had more tragedy than anyone could expect. We will not know the extent, if any, of impact on HMS until we can access the inventory.

We will start sending sample again as soon as possible. One of the many reports of the fire can be found at:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31336684/detail.html
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 09, 2012, 02:45:52 PM
Next, their components will be attacked by a guy dressed as the Riddler.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2012, 07:41:02 PM
GMT's Update from tonight:

QuoteHi guys!   

Today's update is specifically to get you the latest information on our August Charges and Shipments, the ones we noted were delayed at the printers in our July 22nd update.

We just received final shipment verification on those components today, so we can tell you that we intend to begin shipping P500 orders in the August 20-22 window for the following new games:

Andean Abyss
Bloody April, 1917
Panzer
Panzer Expansion #1
Panzer Expansion #2


As we noted in our previous update, we had held off on charging for Bloody April and the two Panzer Expansions until we knew for sure when they would arrive in our warehouse. So you guys are going to get a real short charge-to-ship time on those. We'll begin charging for those three titles this coming Monday, August 13.

Thanks again for your patience with us through this unexpected delay at the printers. It won't be long now!

Enjoy the games!

Gene

After AA and the three Panzer products, that just leaves MMP's Blitzkrieg Legend to wait for as far as pre-orders go, and then I believe I'll be finished spending money until War of The Suns is available later in the year.

At least I think so.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 09, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
What Price Glory, Crusade and Revolution, Korea, Storm Over Dien Ben Phu and War of the Suns are on the list for me.

I have almost nothing on pre-order for GMT, in comparison. A first, I think.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 09, 2012, 08:02:56 PM
There's also Legion of Honour from Clash coming up.  That one's eagerly awaited.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2012, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 09, 2012, 08:02:56 PM
There's also Legion of Honour from Clash coming up.  That one's eagerly awaited.

Yeah, but I haven't seen anything lately on that.

QuoteWhat Price Glory, Crusade and Revolution, Korea, Storm Over Dien Ben Phu and War of the Suns are on the list for me.

Do you have the original OCS Korea? Looks like it's gonna be a long wait.

I really don't see any of those getting printed anytime soon, save WotS and Stonewall Jackson's Way II.  Not too jazzed over CaR myself, but I would totally love to see Dien Bien Phu make it;  but 89 of 520 orders? Ugh..that's like waiting for the Fallschirmjaeger reprint.

But I can barely wait for WotS.  An actual, playable alternative to War of Resistance?  Hells yeah.

But once they put up the latest Grand Tactical Series game up for preorder, The Greatest Day: The British Beaches, I figure that fucker will be ready to run in about 90-120 days.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 09, 2012, 08:40:26 PM
Yeah, most of those are long-shots, unfortunately.  I do know that LoH is supposed to be out this year, though, for what that's worth.  Supposed to have been out for WBC, but they slipped the print apparently.

Only OCS game I have so far is Tunisia, unfortunately.  Korea should see a resurgence in interest for me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 09, 2012, 08:40:26 PM
Only OCS game I have so far is Tunisia, unfortunately.  Korea should see a resurgence in interest for me.

For what it's worth, you should check out Baltic Gap;  it's a very manageable size physically, one of the smaller ones considering the rest of the OCS line-up, and even though it's the far north sector when Bagration was really starting to run the donkey dick right up the Wehrmacht's ass, it still offers some pretty cool scenarios between a Red Army that almost can't stay out of its own way momentum-wise, and a relatively still-mobile defense-in-depth with the Dancing Martim Silvas.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 10, 2012, 01:43:43 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
the Dancing Martim Silvas.


:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 15, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
GMT pulls the plug on OSG

QuoteTermination of OSG Strategic Partnership
Kevin decided late last week that our strategic partnership just wasn't working out for him. Though I had certainly hoped for a better outcome, for his sake and ours, I think this is probably for the best. I imagine many of you, just noting how the P500 numbers were looking, had the same sense I did - that it was going to be difficult for the OSG games to getting printed through us anytime soon. Given that, I think Kevin made  the right call, as he's going to have more control over his brand if the games aren't on our list competing with all our other P500 games. And based on what I've been reading from him online, it sounds like he's going to be able to print at least one of those new games more quickly than we would have been able to, especially if you guys who ordered the games through us will go and re-place those orders with OSG in the near future.

And that's a point I'd like to stress here. Those orders you made for the OSG games through the GMT website have been deleted, as we do not share customer data, credit card numbers, etc, with anyone. We keep your data on secure encrypted servers and will never give out that information or send that data over e-mail. Additionally, you guys made those orders from us in good faith, and you didn't authorize us to share that order information with anyone else. So, to make sure we honor our ethical and legal committments to our customers, we have cancelled all orders for the OSG P500 games on our servers. They should no longer show up on your order lists on our site.

That said, we remain very supportive of Kevin and OSG, and I want to strongly encourage all of you who had ordered the games through us to go to Kevin's website at  http://www.napoleongames.com/pre-ord.html  and re-order those games directly from him. He told me today that their site won't be ready to take pre-orders until late this weekend, but please do go over and support Kevin by pre-ordering the games as soon as it is up. Thanks!

Kevin asked us to make sure that this note from him got out to all who had pre-ordered, so here it is:

-------------------
OSG Pre-Orders (from Kevin Zucker at OSG)

I have just spoken to Tony (at GMT), and he offered their help in publicizing the url for the OSG pre-order page, to their customer list and on GMT's website. The url for OSG's P-350 page is

http://www.napoleongames.com/pre-ord.html

Unfortunately it is confirmed that GMT policy prohibits sharing customer databases. Some will agree with this policy, some disagree, but this does take them "out of the loop" altogether, which is fine and sensible. This means re-doing all pre-orders for OSG games that were placed with GMT. I am sorry about that.

NOTE: Our pre-order page only has information. At this time we are not set-up to record any pre-orders. We will re-install those old pre-order forms in the next few days...

I certainly do apologise for the inconvenience this causes. Please accept my apology for the extra work I am asking you to do ... :) Let's get on with it.

If you had placed pre-orders before the Alliance then those are still good. (All Pre-orders for the Special Studies books are o.k.)

-Kevin

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 15, 2012, 09:47:20 PM
I wonder what happened with Zucker's retirement and move into that new age healing bullshit.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 07:04:48 AM
So since most of you people play alone anyways, Thunderbolt Apache Leader should hold great interest to you. It is awesome.

Not sure  how much you are familiar with Hornet Leader (the latest edition of it is also very good. You get to bomb shit not just with Hornets but also with F-14s, Harriers, and other stuff). Apache Leader is the same system, but with some important differences. Most notably that you have a 10-hexes randomly generated terrain for each mission, on which you randomly place the units  listed on your target battalion's card, and you must destroy them. Each units (artillery, tanks, trucks, scuds, infantry, buildings, SAMs, AAA, etc) have a VP value and it is given for each battalion, how much VP worth of units you must destroy to make the battalion half-eliminated or totally eliminated.

The challenge comes from all these fuckers shooting at your rather fragile planes.

Which you fight mostly by good use of timing and terrain.

The terrain fetaures which matter are... ridges, basically. So the point to random generation is the setup of ridges which you get.

They block LOS, especially for the ground-based stuff. Even if you are high altitude they can't spot you through a hex edge with a ridge.

Now of course you don't REALLY want to go high altitude. Sure, it saves you the trouble of stressing your pilots with zig-zagging through a ridge hex side, but going high altitude may trigger the appearance of various nasty enemies like helicopters.

And since you have to keep your precious planes and pilots going for the whole campaign, you want to avoid unecessary shootings at them.

But, then again, ridge-maneuvering is stressful and you must keep your pilots functioning properly. So it is a matter of choosing one risk over the other and managing them, and the game is great at presenting interesting choices, and then fucking your choices up via random  luck.


A key concept in the game (more important than in Hornet Leader I think) is Special Options points. You buy the better ordinance with them, you buy refuel priority with them so you dont have to lose prescious weight limits to fuel, you send your stressed-out pilots on R&R with SOs, and you  occasionally pay for some beneficary events with them.

Now, the thing here is that not only some enemy battalions (like artillery) decreases your daily SO gain by themselves, the more enemy battalions get closer to your airbase (this is tracked in a simple manner), the more daily SO penalties you get..

How many SOs you gain daily depend on the kind of campaign you play. You set up a campaign by theatre (Lybia 84 or 2011, Pakisan 2013, Israel 2001, WW3 1986, Korea 2014 and a couple of others), and situation.

FOR EXAMPLE, I am now playing a Rapid Deployment Israel Defense 2001 scenario. With the imagined story of shit hitting the fan and some US forces rushed to help defend the joos.

Right, so the starting situation gives you a number of SOs to buy your planes and scouts.
A big mistake I was making in early tries is that I just basically spent all here.
That is a BAD IDEA. Various support and command battalions can have various adverse effects on your campaign so you want to hit them early and hard, and you also need bo QUICK and EFFECTIVE because you can't loiter above battlefields gathering damage and stress, when you have several days of hard fighting ahead.

While I would LOVE to finally try the AC-130 "gunboat", it is just too fucking expensive for a rapid deployment situation, where you get 25 SOs to start off with (the AC-130 costs 10, and you then only have a single plane in your squadron.

So I went with two Harriers, and two 64A Apaches. That left me with some SOs to buy fueling priority, and special equipment so I could destroy two battalions right off the bat: the enemy arty unit, and a command unit which I can't remember.


The main ordinance I bought was... CLUSTER BOMBS. Gotta' tell you I love cluster bombs. The arty unit was full of trucks and SCUDs and shit and it would have taken an eternity (spent in small arms fire) to get rid of them all. Not with cluster bombs.

So the first day went surprisingly well. My two Harriers obliterated the arty unit, and the old Apaches took care of the other unit, altough due to extensive ridge-maneuvering to minimize the threat plus bad rolls with their missiles, they took their sweet time with it, and went home with bingo fuel. One of them became a nervous wreck due to this, so at the start of the 3rd day of a 4 days campaigns, he is still nowhere ready to fight again.

On the second day, I had to take notice of the various assault battalions making their progress toward my base. It is a bad enough situation to have enemies camping near it in any campaign, but in the Israel one, if any of them reaches the Airbase square, it is game over for you.

But, you see, I spent all but one SO points to repair my planes fully (1 SO point can decently set up two Apaches with premium ordinance), and the daily event for the 2nd day was "enemy reinforcements", so I had to spend that last SO to avoid the appearance of a new battalion.

So with regular ammo, going after all those tanks in two separate missions against two battalions wasnt that good an idea. It relied too much on luck, and I could have ended up with badly damaged planes, freaked out pilots, and enemies rapidly advancing on me.
So I just flew a single mission, two Apaches and a Harrier, against the enemy battalion which had the special attribute of having more chance to advance.

At least I didn't have to worry on where to assign my single scout for the day! scouts increase your potential loiter time over the target, but wasn't very effective on this one. Luckily I never leave home without fuel tanks!

The battalion didn't have any effective  anti-air units, so what I had to was stay low and bide my time.
The plan suffered a setback when it took basically all the rockets of one of the helicopters do destroy a tank unit. They were reduced to their gun and it's not exactly anti-tank material.
I had more luck with the regular bombs fitted on my Harrier, so I ended up destroying the tansk with those, while the Apaches flew around machine-gunning APCs and Trucks.
Still, I did not have time to destroy EVERYTING, I had to leave a tank, behind ridges from all sides but the edge of the  map, alone. That was enough to declare the battalion destroyed, but I didnt get the extra XP for completely eradicating a battalion.


Well that's a long post, but I didn't mention some things. Like how you can also have drones for your squadron, and they are great because if you have a Drone on high altitude (drones and AC-130s don't trigger extra enemies when at high altitude), all pilots are considered Fast, which means they act before the enemy units.
But drones are rather fragile since in these cases they are sent above the battlefield and can be shot at.

Also you can not just repair, but replace planes, and when you do, you can use some of their non-damaged parts to retrofit your other damaged planes with. But you buy replacement vehicles and pilots from Victory Points, and the limits on judging your performance (by VPs) are quite hard.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 07:17:40 AM
Yeah, I got all three Leader games the other week; haven't cracked Thunderbolt yet; too busy blasting the Viet Cong with Phantom Leader.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 07:17:40 AM
Yeah, I got all three Leader games the other week; haven't cracked Thunderbolt yet; too busy blasting the Viet Cong with Phantom Leader.

I read mixed reviews of that one, but I am awfully tempted.

I am also awfully tempted for DVG's Napoleonic solitaire game. It is big and just gorgeous. But it is also super-expensive.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 07:54:00 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
I read mixed reviews of that one, but I am awfully tempted.

Yeah, I've read that it's the "weakest" of the three Leaders, but since the reprint for the Deluxe version doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon because the pre-orders are so low  , I pulled the trigger on it anyway.  The wide spread of aircraft availability is, for my part, the coolest feature.  And I haven't even started with Carrier Op yet.

QuoteI am also awfully tempted for DVG's Napoleonic solitaire game. It is big and just gorgeous. But it is also super-expensive.

I think you should go for it, before it disappears.

Since these are my first DVG games, I'm totally impressed;  what fantastic productions.  Personally, in addition to the Israeli Air Leader, I'm really looking forward to the Nimitz game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 08:32:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 07:54:00 AM
I think you should go for it, before it disappears.

Good point, actually... :unsure:

Carrier Ops (if that's the last HL edition) was my first DVG game. Yes, very impressive production value. And such a cool game. I like how you have the basic Navy game, where yeah, you can shoot yourself in the foot and even without that can have some hairy situation but by and large you play a superior force with a vast array of potential weaponry. But then you can play a Marine Corps game and have your Harriers or whatnots and be in a different ballpark.

Plus not to mention the range from 80s planes to the F-22s. Cool.


So yeah, Field Commander Napoleon is probably a buy. I wanted to stop purchasing shit and pissing away my money on bullshit, but I think I will just pretend that I already have this looming promotion in the bag and spend. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 08:32:28 AM
I wanted to stop purchasing shit and pissing away my money on bullshit, but I think I will just pretend that I already have this looming promotion in the bag and spend. :P

As more than one individual here will attest, there's no such thing "purchasing shit and pissing away my money on bullshit" when it comes to stockpiling wargames. :mad:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 16, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 08:32:28 AM
I wanted to stop purchasing shit and pissing away my money on bullshit, but I think I will just pretend that I already have this looming promotion in the bag and spend. :P

As more than one individual here will attest, there's no such thing "purchasing shit and pissing away my money on bullshit" when it comes to stockpiling wargames. :mad:

Most certainly
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 16, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Most certainly

You know the Big Brown Truck is showing up with all your Panzer shit next week, right?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 16, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 16, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Most certainly

You know the Big Brown Truck is showing up with all your Panzer shit next week, right?

and I cant wait  :D . Meantime I'm contemplating pulling the trigger on three games

Ardennes '44; IMO a no brainer off your recommendation and other things I've read. Was looking at the new WaR2, but fuck, they (DG) seemed like they complexed the fuck out of it.

Other two are Avalanche and Citadel by GDW

Going to put in a preorder for Bear's Claw and Sichelschnitt: May 1940 (Simonitch's new game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 11:53:45 AM
what drama!

On the 3rd day of my Israel Defense campaign, I had two battalions just a space away from my airbase (and game over). I sent the two Harriers against the one choke full of tanks. The other one was a scout force.

I filled up the Harriers mostly with cluster bombs but there were also two enemy helicopters, and assorted heavy-hitting anti-aircraft stuff, so it was tricky. And of course you target tanks with a penalty (since hitting a target equals destroying it). Did not go well, the Harriers had to abort with the enemy reduced to half size only. There was a good chance they won't advance though, as half battalions get a penalty on advance check.

But the harder mission was still ahead: Out of 3 Apache pilots (for 2 helicopters), one was totally fucked up stress-wise, the other wasn't THAT fucked up, but being a green guy, he was useless. So I had to send my coolest guy into action alone. It was iffy but I didn't really have a choice.

Lucky me, I drew 'MLRS bombardment" as target-bound event - for an SO point, I could roll against the enemy units to see which one gets pulverized, and a good amount of them did. Actually, the lone Apache had only mop-up work remaining.

I reduced them enough to count as destroyed, only an infantry and an APC remained in one of the hexes on the edge. I figured I would go for the extra XP and kill them off. The pilot was Slow, though, so before he could destroy them with a rocket run, they were to shoot at him first - infantry small arms fire forced the heli to go high altitude.
He did destroy the enemy units, but before the mission could end, he had to suffer a draw for the "pop-up" of enemy units as a reaction to him being high up in the sky. And... a SAM unit spotted him and fired at him...
killing the pilot :cry:

Plus the half-reduced battalion managed to advance anyway and collapse my section of the front :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 16, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
and I cant wait  :D . Meantime I'm contemplating pulling the trigger on three games

Ardennes '44; IMO a no brainer off your recommendation and other things I've read. Was looking at the new WaR2, but fuck, they (DG) seemed like they complexed the fuck out of it.

Other two are Avalanche and Citadel by GDW

Going to put in a preorder for Bear's Claw and Sichelschnitt: May 1940 (Simonitch's new game.

Yeah, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on Ardennes '44 as well sometime--far too many people are raving about it.  And yes, looks like WaR2 has become an unmitigated errata fest, worse than the last one.  Habbaku was right.

I figured Bear's Claw would definitely be up your alley  :lol:  I was thinking about Sichelschnitt as well, but between grabbing GMT's Case Yellow 1940 (although I am more partial to Simonitch than Racier) and waiting for the OCS treatment Blitzkrieg Legend shipping by the end of the month, I think I'll be 1940'd out for a while.  I think I'll pre-order the 1914 western front game.

But I can only tolerate seeing the French taking it on the chin so much. :D

After this flurry of releases, I think I'll be done for a while.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 11:53:45 AM
Lucky me, I drew 'MLRS bombardment" as target-bound event

Love those fuckers.

QuoteI figured I would go for the extra XP and kill them off. The pilot was Slow, though, so before he could destroy them with a rocket run, they were to shoot at him first - infantry small arms fire forced the heli to go high altitude.
He did destroy the enemy units, but before the mission could end, he had to suffer a draw for the "pop-up" of enemy units as a reaction to him being high up in the sky. And... a SAM unit spotted him and fired at him...
killing the pilot :cry:

lol, rolling the dice with those choppers is a bitch, man.  High risk, high reward...and sometimes a high amount of flaming wreckage.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 18, 2012, 01:12:01 PM
looks like there is a cardgame version of Lords of Sierra Madre in the works:
http://www.sierra-madre-games.com/conflict-simulations/#ecwid:category=482250&mode=product&product=14143298
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 10:50:25 AM
On a bit of a Nappy kick; Big Brown Truck is bringing me Napoleon's Triumph and Age of Muskets Vol 1: Tomb for an Empire today.

And to offset all these recent purchases that I'm chalking up to depression, I'm going to be thinning the herd a bit and putting some titles up on eBay this week.  If anybody's interested, I'll post them once I finally decide which ones are going.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 22, 2012, 01:12:51 PM
I'd be interested...

In other news :

http://boardgamegeek.com/article/9882113#9882113

Wut.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 01:15:35 PM
Yeah, I saw that.  Personally, I think it's bullshit.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Any of you guys you ever hear about this Mouth Sugar Project?

http://www.mikugames.com/
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 22, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Any of you guys you ever hear about this Mouth Sugar Project?

http://www.mikugames.com/

<------New offensive launched!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on August 22, 2012, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Any of you guys you ever hear about this Mouth Sugar Project?

http://www.mikugames.com/

Damn, that looks like a very detailed OB.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Hey, Eleventy Bravo:

Quotei everyone!

Just a quick update on shipping for all the new August P500 games. Everything arrived in the warehouse this past weekend, and we have begun the assembly process.

Unfortunately, we found one problem that is going to affect our delivery schedule. The Data Cards for Panzer, which were supposed to come packaged in three sets (so that they fit in the boxes) came packaged in two sets, which means the sets stack too high to fit in the boxes! Ugh - the samples were correct, but the entire set of components on the final delivery batch is packaged incorrectly.

I want to emphasize here that there is nothing wrong with the actual game components - everything looks fine - these cards look fine, too (and you guys will like the thickness!), but are just packaged wrong. This is something that we can fix by repackaging the data cards back into three sets, but as you might imagine, it's going to take our office/warehouse folks some time to do this.

So here's what we're doing. We are going to go ahead and ship all P500 copies of both Andean Abyss and Bloody April, 1917 as planned tomorrow, August 22. We're going to hold all three Panzer products for about a week to give us time to repackage all the data card sets. Then we'll ship all three of those products, probably starting about August 29th.

We apologize for the delay and inconvenience. We didn't see this one coming. We'll do our best to get this fixed quickly and accurately and have your Panzer game and expansions out to you shortly.

Enjoy the games!

Gene
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 23, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Any of you guys you ever hear about this Mouth Sugar Project?

http://www.mikugames.com/
Looks interesting.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 23, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 23, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Hey, Eleventy Bravo:

Quotei everyone!


We're going to hold all three Panzer products for about a week to give us time to repackage all the data card sets. Then we'll ship all three of those products, probably starting about August 29th.

We apologize for the delay and inconvenience. We didn't see this one coming. We'll do our best to get this fixed quickly and accurately and have your Panzer game and expansions out to you shortly.

Enjoy the games!

Gene

Curses, evil forces are at work here!  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 03:49:21 AM
Habbaku, how is Kingdom of Heaven? How PBEM-worthy is it?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 28, 2012, 02:49:38 AM
My gaming group will have it's first play of Twilight Imperium 3 this weekend. I am both very-very interested, and intimidated.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 28, 2012, 05:27:59 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 03:49:21 AM
Habbaku, how is Kingdom of Heaven? How PBEM-worthy is it?

I've tinkered with the VASSAL module myself, haven't found any bugs yet in it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 28, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 03:49:21 AM
Habbaku, how is Kingdom of Heaven? How PBEM-worthy is it?

Fun.  Very.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 28, 2012, 09:40:11 AM
I was afraid you would say something like that. :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
Hey Tamas, check this out:

Hornet Leader: Cthulhu Expansion (http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/61/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Cthulhu%20Expansion)

QuotePreorder from Dan Verssen Games. Hornet Leader: Cthulhu Expansion places your squadron in the middle of a global war against the denizens of The Great Cthulhu. Fly strike missions against his hoards, sweep his minions from the skies, and save the planet from his eternal servitude!

QuoteKey Design Features:
The inclusion of Insanity attacks against your pilots.

:lol:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8311%2F7889193452_9333a2fffa_o.jpg&hash=547eb715bd5f25db70bafe989984ac356b5f498e)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 29, 2012, 07:38:09 PM
My wallet is safe with that one.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 29, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
 :D

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/251531_4403662140909_2080282751_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on August 29, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Those are some really ugly covers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 29, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
:D

Oh, you bastard;  I still don't have a tracking number for mine yet, or for Andean Abyss.

And personally, I think the covers are gorgeous.  It's like Redmond Simonsen meets Jackson Pollack.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 29, 2012, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 29, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Those are some really ugly covers.

Gasp! Those covers are great.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 02:07:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
Hey Tamas, check this out:

Hornet Leader: Cthulhu Expansion (http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/61/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Cthulhu%20Expansion)

QuotePreorder from Dan Verssen Games. Hornet Leader: Cthulhu Expansion places your squadron in the middle of a global war against the denizens of The Great Cthulhu. Fly strike missions against his hoards, sweep his minions from the skies, and save the planet from his eternal servitude!

QuoteKey Design Features:
The inclusion of Insanity attacks against your pilots.

:lol:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8311%2F7889193452_9333a2fffa_o.jpg&hash=547eb715bd5f25db70bafe989984ac356b5f498e)

:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on August 31, 2012, 01:01:35 AM
Waiting on one more delivery for games this month. SPI's War of the Ring. USPS dropped off Red Storm over the Reich today. I dont think there's anymore pending.

There will be much game playing this winter.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2012, 07:45:38 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 31, 2012, 01:01:35 AM
Waiting on one more delivery for games this month. SPI's War of the Ring. USPS dropped off Red Storm over the Reich today. I dont think there's anymore pending.

Yeah, all I have left is The Blitzkrieg Legend, and the season is done:  unless War of The Suns gets printed before the holidays, like rumor has it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on August 31, 2012, 07:48:05 AM
HAY SEEDY (and others)

Possible security breach at Troll and Toad:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/849260/an-fyi-security-breach-troll-toad
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
I don't think I've ordered from T&T for years. 

When Ukrainians break into CoolStuffInc, then it's time to panic.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 05, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
Legion of Honor is pretty close to printing.  Still time to pre-order for those out there that haven't :

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.1dd5935a/57

http://www.clashofarms.com/LegionofHonor.html
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 05, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
I have ordered Kingdom of Heaven, as well as the huge beautiful solitaire Napoleon game. Both on the merits of them might dissappearing by the time I REALLY want to buy them. eg. I didn't order the DVG U-boat game from this german retailer when I first stumbled upon it, now it is out of stock. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 05, 2012, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 05, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
the huge beautiful solitaire Napoleon game

:unsure:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 01:46:02 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 05, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
Legion of Honor is pretty close to printing.  Still time to pre-order for those out there that haven't :

About fucking time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 05, 2012, 01:49:34 PM
No kidding.  I checked my PayPal statements just to figure up how long it's been since I pre-ordered.  It'll be three years two weeks from now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 01:59:46 PM
Jeez, that's a good idea.  I can't remember if I did or not.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 05, 2012, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 05, 2012, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 05, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
the huge beautiful solitaire Napoleon game

:unsure:

DVG's Field Commander Napoleon. It has like a dozen maps and separate counter sets for each campaigns, plus a tactical battle map with formation rules and shit.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
Yeah, that one looks interesting, but I'm much more intrigued with Nimitz.  Curious as to how that is going manage play on both strategic and operational levels.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 13, 2012, 01:50:45 AM
I have been playing the solitaire Napoleon game. I am quite hooked.

I first trashed the 1796 scenario, but figured more than halfway in that I was ignoring some important rules, so no wonder it was that easy.

Then I tried the 1798 campaign and attrited to shit in no time. That one appears to be more about establishing a stable foothold and just running the clock down (you get VPs for surviving units, even).

I figured I would start over in chronological order, but first I wanted to try a bigger campaign, so 1805 seemed like a good choice.

You see, the "AI" is of course random, but the way it is set up, it can cause problems, since you are trying to be as fast as possible, for the best score.

In  battles, there are standard orders you can give to any unit, and there are special orders for both the French, and the enemies. The number of special orders you can assign to Frenchmen depends on Nappy's skill in the campaign, (usually you can just assign one per round if he is not around), while enemy orders depend on the campaign.
What this ends up in practice is that to avoid a fairly standard slug fest you either need Nappy to be around, or spend a good amount of Supply (the game's currency) on extra plans.
The other end result is that the bulk of the enemy forces will operate on a fairly standard routine when numerous enough to not be completely covered by enemy special orders, but there will be always a number of possible surprises or effective enemy unit actions. Among the enemy orders are also 'global' modifiers, so you may end up with all enemy units having various bonuses for the round.
All in all, you obviously have the chance to "outsmart" the enemy AI but it is not always easy, and you cannot be sure.
Just like in my ongoing 2nd play of the 1796 campaign, where I was planning to kick the arse of a numerically superior Austrian stack which moved against my Nappy stack, but at the most crucial moment of overruning their advancing columns, one of my two cavalries failed to follow my order, which in the end left the Austrians enough time to decimate my troops and force me to retreat.

On the campaign map, the way the AI random move orders work, you will most likely end up with them converging on any weak spot you leave. In the 1805 game, I had to fight two small, but nail-biting battles to keep Munich against the Austrians pouring in from the North while my two main stacks advanced on Vienna
Speaking of 1805 and two stacks, I didn't check the Russian stack I would have to fight in Austerlitz (Austerlitz is the furthest objective on the map and the Russians appear on it's space when you enter it), and had a very bloody an inconclusive battle there, before deciding to just give up and restart from 1796.

All in all, I know it's solitaire and whatever, and it is much superior to stare at unpunched counters of monster games you will never play, but I do enjoy it so far. All the campaigns (and there is a crapload of them) present you with different problems to solve, and while you always have the tactical superiority since you are fighting an AI, you can seldom be sure of your victory, and the victory conditions force you to be tight and always seek the most efficient way of handling things.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 05:58:24 AM
I picked up an excellent, barely used copy of Where There Is Discord a couple weeks ago;  without a doubt, one of the finest solitaire innovations in a very long time.  Been having a total blast with it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 04:58:59 PM
I'm putting this in the board game section. BECAUSE I CAN.

Marines like Warhammer.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gaming/2012/09/warhammer_40k_why_american_troops_love_to_play_a_game_featuring_orks_necrons_and_space_marines_.single.html
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 06:03:05 PM
That's total awesomeness. :darkangels:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on September 14, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 19, 2012, 06:27:21 AM
Is the Kingdom of Heaven rulebook available somewhere? It would be nice to read it at work. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 06:34:33 AM
Probably not.  MMP don't play like that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 19, 2012, 06:43:38 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 06:34:33 AM
Probably not.  MMP don't play like that.

Oh crap. Fuck'em.


Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:00:10 AM
Like they need eastern Europeans ripping off their products, selling photostatic copies of cards and shit.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 19, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:00:10 AM
Like they need eastern Europeans ripping off their products, selling photostatic copies of cards and shit.  :P

Oh screw you too, I have bought the game. :P

But reading the rulebook TAKES TIME, and I would prefer to read it when I am payed to do so. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 09:03:03 AM
Take it to work with you and do the old comic-book-inside-the-text-book thing.  It still works, after all these years.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 10:05:20 AM
There is a .pdf floating around and I happen to have it.  :goodboy:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 10:15:12 AM
Is it the pre-pub one posted on CSW a while back?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
Yep.  It's the same as the printed rules, only lacking the errata (which have been posted).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 03:31:15 PM
Great, send it to Tamas so he can start selling copies for 500000 zlotydracmas, or whatever stone coin they use over there.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 03:33:33 PM
They use the Megkövültcukorrépa ($B).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on September 19, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 09:03:03 AM
Take it to work with you and do the old comic-book-inside-the-text-book thing.  It still works, after all these years.

Now days one just uses a tablet.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 20, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
Really tempted to buy up a used copy of http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3935/the-art-of-siege after hearing some more about it.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 07:04:31 PM
Yeah, that's always on a lot of people's grail lists.  Always popular.

DO IT DO IT DO IT
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on September 20, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 20, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
Really tempted to buy up a used copy of http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3935/the-art-of-siege after hearing some more about it.

Fuck.

I got a copy last Origins I attended.  Think I got it at the auction, but not sure.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 20, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
And you're selling it now for the low, low price of $50, right?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on September 21, 2012, 12:27:20 AM
I don't intend to sell it.  I might be persuaded to change my mind, but not for $50.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 21, 2012, 12:55:05 AM
You drive a hard bargain.  45?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on September 21, 2012, 09:09:21 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2012, 10:18:49 AM
Blitzkrieg Legend is charged and packing;  unless they ship it by the end of the day, doubtful I'll get it by tomorrow.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 05:50:10 AM
KoH seems to be great!

I like how the sieges work, how an important siege (or one you started ill-prepared) can totally get the focus of an entire turn

Would be cool to PBEM, say, the 2nd Crusade scenario.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 23, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Kingdom_of_Heaven:_The_Crusader_States_1097-1291
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 11:28:23 AM
yeah, but are you: up for a game?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 04:19:54 PM
gave a solitaire test to the egyptian civil war scenario as well. Very interesting how it presents you with a quite different situation. You have the regular VP spaces to fight over between the christians and the seljuks, but there is the very lucrative Egypt, but that is quite bothersome to reach and conclude the civil war there in your favour, as non-fatimid forces must disperse during winter regardless of any normally applicable exceptions.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 23, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 11:28:23 AM
yeah, but are you: up for a game?

That is not really the question.  The question is really if you can keep up and not make me pull my hair out from correcting your rules-fu.  :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 23, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 04:19:54 PM
gave a solitaire test to the egyptian civil war scenario as well. Very interesting how it presents you with a quite different situation. You have the regular VP spaces to fight over between the christians and the seljuks, but there is the very lucrative Egypt, but that is quite bothersome to reach and conclude the civil war there in your favour, as non-fatimid forces must disperse during winter regardless of any normally applicable exceptions.

Aye, I really like that scenario from a gameplay standpoint.  The Kingdom of Jerusalem is stable and able to project power.  So what does it do?  Picks a fight in Egypt while ignoring the building threat on its borders!

I also like the "Kingdom of Heaven" (3rd Crusade) scenario because of its situation--Saladin conquering all before him only to suddenly have a massive Crusader army appear on turn 4, after which he has to batten down the hatches and survive.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 24, 2012, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 23, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 23, 2012, 11:28:23 AM
yeah, but are you: up for a game?

That is not really the question.  The question is really if you can keep up and not make me pull my hair out from correcting your rules-fu.  :P

I have mastered the rules and I am ready to handle you your bottom
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 24, 2012, 12:58:04 AM
:x

Send me a file when you're ready to do something besides handle my bottom.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on September 24, 2012, 01:01:08 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 24, 2012, 04:44:43 AM
you know what I WANTED to say and that's all that matters. :P

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 24, 2012, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 24, 2012, 04:44:43 AM
you know what I WANTED to say

Fondle?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 24, 2012, 10:34:03 AM
oh shut up!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on September 25, 2012, 11:31:52 AM
Somebody is using the Hungarian phrase book again.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on September 25, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 25, 2012, 11:31:52 AM
Somebody is using the Hungarian phrase book again.

I am no longer infected.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on September 25, 2012, 01:28:19 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 25, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 25, 2012, 11:31:52 AM
Somebody is using the Hungarian phrase book again.

I am no longer infected.

But is your hovercraft full of eels?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on September 25, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Hungarian crusades move very slowly.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on October 08, 2012, 01:36:55 AM
If you think Berkut is slow in his answers, try playing with CdM :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on October 08, 2012, 02:40:58 AM
So I celebrated my salary-raise with a rampage of game purchases.

The dust was settling, I decide to have only 3 remaining on my list:
-Pax Prolifiarana or something, the cardgame version of Lords of Sierra Madre (looks awesome)
-Merchant of Venus new edition
-Colonial

Then Rockpapershotgun does a review of the X-Wing miniatures game.

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2012, 05:40:32 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2012, 01:36:55 AM
If you think Berkut is slow in his answers, try playing with CdM :P

lol, gimme a break, I'm working on it.  I send no turn before its time, especially when I'm muddling through it the first time.   :P 

Besides, you fill out these online job applications all goddamned day and evening, and see how much you want to sit in front of the computer.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on October 08, 2012, 05:43:39 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2012, 02:40:58 AM
Then Rockpapershotgun does a review of the X-Wing miniatures game.

That one actually looks pretty sweet and I have friends who would be willing to try that. But it looks like a money pit with every extra ship costing extra.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2012, 05:46:10 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 08, 2012, 05:43:39 AM
But it looks like a money pit with every extra ship costing extra.

It is, especially if you want to build a proper squadron, and that's not counting the specialty ships.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on October 08, 2012, 06:07:38 AM
I may dig out West End Games' Star Warriors instead, but it was kinda slow to play . . .  :hmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on October 08, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
BTW, in the Pax Prolifiriaanana game, you can do a strawman play to generate outrage.

I am SO organizing a Languish game if there ever be a VASSAL set
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on October 13, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-425-blood-roses.aspx

:boner:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on October 13, 2012, 06:33:31 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 13, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-425-blood-roses.aspx

:boner:

Paint an army, then maybe you deserve a boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on October 13, 2012, 09:12:34 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 13, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-425-blood-roses.aspx

:boner:

Designer:  RICHARD H. BERG

Pass.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on October 29, 2012, 06:46:37 PM
GMT FALL SALE. BE THERE.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on October 29, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
Sadly, this is both a sale I barely qualify for (I have only pre-ordered Saints in Armor out of the games on the qualifying list) and only kinda want a single game that would qualify (Crown of Roses).
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on October 29, 2012, 09:37:21 PM
Labyrinth and/or Washington's War any good?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on October 29, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Labyrinth yes, Washington's War no.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on October 30, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Labyrinth is in, then. What about Wilderness War? :hmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on October 30, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
Haven't played it enough to recommend or not, alas.  A lot of guys I respect think it's great, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on October 31, 2012, 03:45:12 AM
Are Pursuit of Glory and PQ-17 any good?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on October 31, 2012, 04:06:37 AM
Pursuit of Glory is excellent.


Pax Porfiriana, the new Ecklung game appears to be great. Got it in the mail last weekend.

I have also preordered Merchant of Venus, and the Romulan expansion for the Star Trek Fleet Captains game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on October 31, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 30, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
Haven't played it enough to recommend or not, alas.  A lot of guys I respect think it's great, though.
Thanks, Habs. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 02, 2012, 06:18:23 AM
Crown of Roses any good?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 02, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Anyone play Sheepland?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on November 02, 2012, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 02, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Anyone play Sheepland?

Check with Marty.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 04, 2012, 03:15:43 PM
Played 1830 for the first time (the new edition from Mayfair). Fun game, long though, with 4 noobs. I was too lenient early on and one of the guys rushed ahead via selling his two private companies to his own companies.

I ALMOST catched him though. I had 40% in his two most lucrative firms, dumped both en masse in what I suspected to be the last stock round, destroying a lot of his stock value. I was right, but I couldn't force bankrupcy of the weakest link soon enough, so Leader Guy managed to recover enough of his stock prices to get the win.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 05, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
MMP folds to the little bitches on BGG.

QuoteWe are announcing a number of changes here at Multi-Man Publishing. In listening to your feedback, we have heard a number of frustrations, which we have taken to heart. After analyzing how we can better provide our customers with quality games and service within our given constraints, we are undertaking two initiatives to improve our process. The first initiative comes in the area of customer relations. We understand that MMP needs to do a better job communicating with our customers, so we have engaged Steven Mitchell as our Communications Coordinator to help us accomplish that goal. Steven will be an active presence on the various wargaming boards and social networks, and he will help us release a monthly status update about our game development and preorders. This will allow us to respond better to your feedback and help us keep you informed about the games you enjoy and the games you hope to enjoy soon.

     The second initiative is to improve and streamline how Multi-Man Publishing handles pre-orders and the production queue. The perception exists that games languish on the MMP preorder list forever and that even after a game hits, MMP takes forever to publish any game. While we have made great strides in the past year, there is no question that some games have spent a very long time on our preorder list and that we have at times taken a very long time to publish a game after it hit its P#.

     We are taking a number of concrete steps to correct this as outlined in this list and then further explained below:

1.   We will not put a game up for preorder unless development is essentially complete and we have in hand box art and solid rules for the game.
2.   We will publish all games within a reasonable amount of time after they hit their preorder #.
3.   We also commit to a two-year deadline for new preorders.
4.   We are dropping some games from our preorder list (see below).
5.   We are putting VCS-Salerno on a six-month deadline.
6.   We are moving our magazine Special Ops to a once-a-year schedule

1.   We promise that we will not put a game up for preorder unless development is essentially complete and we have in hand box art and solid rules for the game. On game series that we know are well supported, like ASL and OCS, we will not post the game for preorder until all artwork is complete and the game is ready to go to press. Please just think of preorders for these series as a way to offer our most supportive customers a bit of a discount! Whenever we put a game up for preorder, we will post the box art and the rules for review. This will not only serve as a reminder of our commitment to full development for all preorders, but it should also help better inform players about the game in question. We will also post other playtest components when appropriate.

   
2.   The above will help fulfill another promise: we will publish all games within a reasonable amount of time after they hit their preorder #. We cannot commit to an exact timeframe because there are too many variables involved. Although we cannot afford to sink a lot of money into artwork for a preorder that might not hit its P#, we intend to monitor carefully the progress of our games to ensure that the artwork is being completed as the game hits its goal.       
3.   As part of our effort to combat the perception that games languish too long on our list, we also commit to a two-year deadline for new preorders. If a game does not hit its P# within two years of going on our preorder list, we will drop it from our list. We will either redevelop it (if we think that is the problem), or hold it for a more promising time in the future or-if not part of an existing series-return it to the designer. In light of our new commitment to having games ready to go, two years should be plenty long enough for a game to hit its P#.

We think that there are various reasons why some of our games have not been able to hit their P#. Sometimes it was the wrong game at the wrong time. Sometimes our marketing efforts may have been insufficient, although in other cases there is not much more the designer could have done along those lines. Part of the problem is that some people are discouraged from preordering by the perception that the game will just sit on the preorder list, both before and after hitting its P#, and we aim to address those concerns directly.   


4.   Putting our money where our mouth is (so to speak), we are dropping some games from our preorder list. Make no mistake about it, we think these are great games that we would be proud to publish, but we think we need to make some hard decisions concerning games that are not capable of hitting their P# anytime soon.

The easiest games to cut are two reprints, Drive on Paris and Fallschirmjager. Although these games are proven successes, the market to reprint them just isn't there right now. Maybe later for them. Harder decisions were required for the reprint of A Las Barricadas and its expansion Help Arrives, and for the initial entry in the War Storm Series-France 1940. All three suffer from competing with our other tactical WWII-era games, with ALB's problems compounded by a seemingly-limited interest in the Spanish Civil War as a topic. Another tough decision surrounded another great game on that topic-Crusade and Revolution. Despite some great artwork and the Herculean efforts of designer David Gómez Relloso, this card-driven game could not garner the preorders we need to publish with confidence in success. We remain confident that this is a great game, and we believe David has another home for this title. Also coming down off the preorder list are What Price Glory and The Setting Sun. We are glad to say that What Price Glory will be going into the next issue of Special Ops as a magazine game, and we hope that we will be able to do something similar with The Setting Sun. 


5.   A tough decision that we hope not to have to make concerns VCS-Salerno. This great game has also been struggling on the list despite its beautiful map, the tireless efforts of its designer, and a priced-to-move preorder cost of $31.50. We are putting this game on a countdown to hit its P# within the next six months-or else. If it doesn't hit by May Day, we will take it off our preorder list no matter how close it is. We don't want to do that, but we think that limiting the time that games spend on our list is the best thing to do. 


6.   Speaking of Special Ops, we are going to move to a once-a-year schedule for a slightly larger magazine-timed to come out at the World Boardgaming Championships in the summer. So, Special Ops #4 will be available around August of 2013. We found that a bi-annual schedule was diverting our efforts away from publishing the games on our preorder list, and we think that an annual schedule will allow us to produce a better 'zine.

     That's a lot of changes packed into one announcement, but we think all are changes for the better. We are disappointed that we will not be able to publish the great games that we have cut from the list, but we think that cutting them will help us to publish other great games that have a better chance of being successful. We are dedicated to doing a better job of communicating with our customer base. We think we have some of the most dedicated customers in the business, and they deserve no less.

     There will be more to announce in the near future, including new games to preorder. So please, preorder a game today and stay tuned for more news.


Multi-Man Publishing
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 05, 2012, 09:15:32 PM
 :lol:

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on November 07, 2012, 04:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 31, 2012, 04:06:37 AM
Pursuit of Glory is excellent.

Thanks, ordered it.

Also played Reds!, or at least tried to. These rules are impossible.
When the whites started to push back my reds all over the board we decided it wasn't bad luck or bad play anymore and called it quits. Shame, it looks like a decent game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2012, 11:17:47 AM
GMT loves those hated by shareholder value.   Gotta send them my severance letter.

QuoteThe "Tough Economy" Special Offer is Back!!

We've run these specials four times in the past few years, but we are STILL hearing from gamers who are out of work and we all know the economic environment for many of us is still pretty difficult. So, we are going to offer our tough economy special once again. Here are the details of the offer:

If you have lost your job since November 1, 2011 and remain unemployed, if you will provide verification of such status to Tony ([email protected]) or the office folks by mail or phone or e-mail, we will send you TWO FREE IN-STOCK GAMES of your choice. Play them, Enjoy them, and know that we will keep this information private and wish you only the best for a quick recovery.

We hope you guys find this special helpful.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 09, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Maladict on November 07, 2012, 04:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 31, 2012, 04:06:37 AM
Pursuit of Glory is excellent.

Thanks, ordered it.

Must've missed this.  Yes, Pursuit of Glory is excellent.  One of my favorite CDGs, by far.  It has the bonus of being a lot more historically-sound than Paths of Glory, too.

QuoteAlso played Reds!, or at least tried to. These rules are impossible.
When the whites started to push back my reds all over the board we decided it wasn't bad luck or bad play anymore and called it quits. Shame, it looks like a decent game.

I'm surprised the rules didn't get cleaned up in the reprint.  Shame, that.  If you want a better (but by no means easier to grok set of rules) RCW game, try Triumph of Chaos.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 09, 2012, 11:54:06 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 09, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
Triumph of Chaos.


(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg41.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F7%2Fa%2F4%2Fgiga-wub-1ef2e34.png&hash=4ee8d2214e6d5bf2c0f0d006b9f4f308a0e1a730)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2012, 11:57:51 AM
If he had trouble with the Reds! rules set, you honestly think he'd do better with TOC?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 10, 2012, 02:56:12 AM
My order of the Romulan expansion for the Star Fleet Captains game, and  Merchant of Venus, has shipped from Coolstuff.

They had some excellent pricing on these. Even with the blood-boiling shipping cost I'll come out ahead compared to ordering from Europe, and in theory customs should leave it alone as it was below $100.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 13, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
Heads up.

Noble knight has a sale going on and MMP will have their sale Friday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 14, 2012, 03:09:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 13, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
Heads up.

Noble knight has a sale going on and MMP will have their sale Friday.

SHUT UP!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 14, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
 :lol:

Critical Hit's website is about unreadable.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 14, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 13, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
and MMP will have their sale Friday.

Yes, nothing like a sale to make it less difficult to choose between "Currently Out of Print!" and "Temporarily Out of Stock!"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 14, 2012, 07:47:55 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on November 15, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 14, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 13, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
and MMP will have their sale Friday.

Yes, nothing like a sale to make it less difficult to choose between "Currently Out of Print!" and "Temporarily Out of Stock!"

You forgot "still waiting for a printing slot (or whatever equivalent technology will exist in the 22nd century)"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 15, 2012, 01:31:11 PM
Well, Brian did say something like over 30 items will be on sale.  I'm assuming 28 of them are ASL map boards.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 15, 2012, 05:51:02 PM
If I can snag an SCS game, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 15, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Friday after thanksgiving, I will be playing Avalanche's Midway. I will command the Nips. My slightly retarded friend will be the treacherous Yankees.

BANZAI!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 15, 2012, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 15, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Friday after thanksgiving, I will be playing Avalanche's Midway. I will command the Nips. My slightly retarded friend will be the treacherous Yankees.

BANZAI!

:lol:

I'm selling all my AP naval titles, except SOPAC and Bomb Alley, because Brit and Italian shitfights are fun as balls.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 15, 2012, 08:58:52 PM
First one to get Carpal Tunnel.....loses!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 15, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
Roll 1d6 then 2d6 then 3d6 then 4d6 then 5d6 to determine if you can hit me for 1d6 damage.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 16, 2012, 08:58:36 AM
The MMP sale isn't bad. My wallet took two step losses.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 16, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
That was too good a price to pass up for GD42.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 16, 2012, 07:59:38 PM
L2 is having a sale too. Shipping to US: 18 smackers.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on November 17, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
I consider picking up "Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery" for me and my friends:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/04/cardboard-children-spartacus/
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 17, 2012, 12:21:13 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 17, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
I consider picking up "Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery" for me and my friends:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/04/cardboard-children-spartacus/

Yeah it looks interesting. Don't think my gaming group would be hugely interested though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on November 17, 2012, 12:29:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on November 17, 2012, 12:21:13 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 17, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
I consider picking up "Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery" for me and my friends:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/04/cardboard-children-spartacus/

Yeah it looks interesting. Don't think my gaming group would be hugely interested though.

My group of irregulars likes topical games, ideally ones that are easy to pick up. Our mainstays atm are Talisman and Last Night on Earth. I know we have a couple of fans of the Spartacus tv show, so this should be popular.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
Mmp is holding that sale again Friday, because of a few complaints.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
Mmp is holding that sale again Friday, because of a few complaints.

LOL, what is it this time?  Somebody couldn't hoard a dozen copies of Beyond Valor?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
Mmp is holding that sale again Friday, because of a few complaints.

LOL, what is it this time?  Somebody couldn't hoard a dozen copies of Beyond Valor?

The way I read it at BGG, because the Black Friday sale wasn't on Black Friday.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 05:19:03 PM
 :lol:
You mean, the one advertised as:

QuoteTHE FRIDAY BEFORE BLACK FRIDAY!

This Friday only! November 16, 2012

Christ, sometimes I wish everybody on BGG would accidentally gas themselves in the garage.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
Folks,

We have received a lot of complaints about holding our "Friday before Black Friday" sale prior to the actual Black Friday.

I thought we had advertised this well enough, and the sale was the most successful (by about 32 orders) of any sale we've ever had, but there were enough emails to warrant trying this again.

So, we will hold an identical "Black Friday" sale the Friday after Thanksgiving.

This sale will be identical to what we ran on the 16th! Nothing new will be added, nothing has sold out, and the prices will remain the same!

Please note: We can not add to an earlier order!. The office is already swamped trying to get the last J10's out and dealing with the orders from the 16th! We are not going to complicate the office's job with this second chance sale.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
Folks,

We have received a lot of complaints about holding our "Friday before Black Friday" sale prior to the actual Black Friday.

I thought we had advertised this well enough,

And people wonder why Perry, Chaz and the boys don't "communicate enough".
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 06:02:45 PM
I can see why Ty Bomba dropped off the face of CSW. I wouldn't want to communicate with wargamers either.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 09:59:04 PM
QuoteFirst, the good news -

From Worthington Games November Newsletter:

Starting at 12:01am on the 22nd of November until 11:59pm the 25th the following games are only $15.00 each plus shipping.

COWBOYS
HOLD THE LINE
PRUSSIA'S DEFIANT STAND
MEDWAR SICILY
CHAINMAIL
CAESAR'S GALLIC WAR

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on November 20, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
How long does it take a GMT P500 game to go from charging to shipping?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 20, 2012, 08:19:22 PM
Depends on the game.  Usually 2-3 months.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on November 21, 2012, 03:24:25 AM
Fucking customs. A 50% surcharge, really?
Second time in a row, not importing any games from the US for a while  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 22, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Just ordered moar wargames. MOAR!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 22, 2012, 02:16:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 22, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Just ordered moar wargames. MOAR!

More from MMP?  Hope you at least got Black Sunday.

I'm waiting for my "Unemployment Special" 2 freebies from GMT.  Nice guys.  Figured "Nightfighter" and "PQ-17" looked interesting enough.

Never knew Tony C was a 17 year vet for a brokerage firm before he decided to save what was left of his soul, and got the fuck out.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 22, 2012, 02:25:34 PM
I hit Worthington's sale. Decided hold the line and the Sicily game needed a new home.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on November 22, 2012, 10:12:50 PM
Is the Blue vs. Grey card game any good?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 23, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
Easily one of the best Civil War strategy games of all time, yes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on November 23, 2012, 02:14:01 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 23, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
Easily one of the best Civil War strategy games of all time, yes.

Damn that's some faint praise.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 23, 2012, 11:43:31 AM
Internet wargamer: OMG, MMP SERVER DOWN! Complain about sale.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 23, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 15, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Friday after thanksgiving, I will be playing Avalanche's Midway. I will command the Nips. My slightly retarded friend will be the treacherous Yankees.

BANZAI!

Forgot to give the results:

Yorktown: sunk
Hornet: sunk
Enterprise: withdrawing, damaged

Akagi: 1 bomb hit
Kaga: fine and dandy
Hiryu: sank
Soryu: badly damaged

Midway: taken. BANZAI!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 26, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-430-1914-serbien-mu-sterbien.aspx

/fap
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on November 26, 2012, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 26, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-430-1914-serbien-mu-sterbien.aspx

/fap

:mmm:

Megállj, megállj kutya Szerbia, nem lesz tiéd Bosznia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYUMEvCwCY


Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 26, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
I'll wear a track suit while pre ordering.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 30, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
Oh, good Lord...

QuoteLegion of Honor status - cross posted from LOH folder

From the Art Dept. . .

All 200 cards have been revised by me (for the 3rd time) and are with Rich and team for FINAL review. To my knowledge, we are just missing two pictures for cards and hopefully all other cosmetic and game related information is finished on them. The cards are the most time conusming part of the production spiral (6-8 week lead time), so when I receive the proofs back from Rich, I will immediately make any rev's needed and shoot them off to printer toot suite (sweet?).

Box is ready for printer. Rich is working on rules and charts and I will "graphasize" and send to printer (usually 1-2 weeks production time). So we can send these to printer while cards are being produced and collated.

Believe me, we are moving this along as fast as possible before Ed pops a vein!

We ask for your patience just a while longer - you will be rewarded with a wonderful game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 30, 2012, 03:30:04 PM
That game's never coming out.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 30, 2012, 06:24:14 PM
Think of it this way:  you're actually living through the length of Napoleonic Wars waiting for it.  So it's sorta appropriate, I guess..
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on November 30, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
That game sounds like its made for Languish MP, though.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on November 30, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
Got my Worthington games package. I stared at the USPS guy through my window, curtains covering my new games boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on November 30, 2012, 08:49:34 PM
Quote from: Kleves on November 30, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
That game sounds like its made for Languish MP, though.

I'll try to run a game when it comes out.  Eventually.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 01, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
And with the arrival of my MMP stuff, I have fondled all the Black Friday sale stuff. Into the closet they go, maybe to be rediscovered in 5 years.

And with that, this wargame buying fit is over.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 01, 2012, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 01, 2012, 02:53:15 PM

And with that, this wargame buying fit is over.

It does come in, like, spasms or something, doesn't it? :P You get your fix then you are fine for a few months. Then your hands start to shake on the Paypal buttons again.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tell me about Andean Abyss, and tell me why I should not buy it while it is in stock in a Hungarian shop.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:22:01 AM
I am also considering GMing a Star Trek: Fleet Captains Languish game the way we did BSG, since now I have the Romulan expansion... but I would need to figure out how to make it feasible to deal with the not-small-but-fully-random-and-hidden map. I could take a photo of the whole, or make some hexes readable but not both.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 06, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tell me about Andean Abyss, and tell me why I should not buy it while it is in stock in a Hungarian shop.

Meh.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 06, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tell me about Andean Abyss, and tell me why I should not buy it while it is in stock in a Hungarian shop.

Meh.

is it meh, ha?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on December 06, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
HMSGRD is having a (literal) fire sale:

http://hmsgrd.com//wordpress
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 06, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
QuoteThe purpose of this fire sale is to raise the money needed to print the final components and ship Total War

lol
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 06, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 06, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tell me about Andean Abyss, and tell me why I should not buy it while it is in stock in a Hungarian shop.

Meh.

Volko's components are increasingly crossing over into Euro territory.  Soon he'll be including thimbles and top hats.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 06, 2012, 09:34:32 PM
Black top hats for the SS.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on December 08, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
I'm considering counter clipping. :bleeding:
Tried a few spares using an exacto blade. They turn out somewhat decent, but it's really slow going.
How do you guys go about it?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 08, 2012, 05:19:52 PM
 :lol:  If you have a problem with slow going, you don't want to use my method.

I use a box cutter razor blade to separate the rows from the counter sheets and from each other, an Exacto knife to separate the ones in the counter sheet corners, and once they're all out, I use an emory board to lovingly sand down all the nibs.  One. Counter. At. A. Time.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking anal.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on December 08, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
 :lol:
Every time I think I'm doing something really weird I post it here and you guys make me feel completely normal in no time.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 08, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Maladict on December 08, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
I'm considering counter clipping. :bleeding:
Tried a few spares using an exacto blade. They turn out somewhat decent, but it's really slow going.
How do you guys go about it?

(https://www.mountainside-medical.com/product_images/uploaded_images/nail-clipper.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on December 08, 2012, 06:11:40 PM
Tried that but the counters only barely fit and tend to get scratched. I could buy a larger one, of course.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 08, 2012, 06:55:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 08, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Maladict on December 08, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
I'm considering counter clipping. :bleeding:
Tried a few spares using an exacto blade. They turn out somewhat decent, but it's really slow going.
How do you guys go about it?

(https://www.mountainside-medical.com/product_images/uploaded_images/nail-clipper.jpg)

+1
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on December 08, 2012, 06:56:08 PM
or dont clip...... :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 08, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
I remember reading that fingernail clippers work.

I never clip counters. EVER.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 08, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
OH FUCK YOU FAST POSTER.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 08, 2012, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 08, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
I never clip counters. EVER.

Somehow, I don't think letting the kids do it will give you an accurate inventory.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 08, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
I don't think they'll hoard white on black SS counters

me discovering a Baggie of counters..WHO TAUGHT YOU THIS?

Kid: I GOT IT FROM YOU DAD! I SAW YOU PUNCH COUNTERS!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on December 09, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
It's going to be the knife all the way. Two or three cuts gets you a nice rounded edge, quite pleased with the results.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 11, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
Interesting find of the day:  data sheets for COA's Speed of Heat, starring famous Sci-Fi fighters, courtesy of some Japanese website.

(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxd9nz1NSE1qb0zi0o4_500.jpg)

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 11, 2012, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 06, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 06, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tell me about Andean Abyss, and tell me why I should not buy it while it is in stock in a Hungarian shop.

Meh.

I bought it anyway :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on December 11, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
Enjoy the Euro-faggotry.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on December 20, 2012, 05:41:27 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 11, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
Enjoy the Euro-faggotry.

You know what? I like it.

Sure, the units are cubes and whatever the english name for the guerillas' geometrical object is, but so what?

Very asynchronous victory conditions as well as possible actions, novel operations and event resolution, unique and interesting theme...

We should have a Languish PBEM via Vassal, since I have the game, I could scan the player aid for you people so you could play.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on December 20, 2012, 06:35:23 AM
Played Crown of Roses last night with some friends. Only got two turns in but it was lots of fun. I played the Lancasters, Henry VI the Mad managed to stay King, and I almost killed York but he got away at the last second. Hopefully a CB or Vassal module comes out for this soon.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on December 26, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
You gimps might want to check cool stuff inc out. Year end 'blowout' sale looks....alright.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1521428_md.jpg&hash=4aa8f678e29e8bf2e788f48130dcec647a2601dd)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on January 03, 2013, 01:24:40 PM
Do you have the Desert Shield expansion?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2013, 01:27:44 PM
Nah, never bothered with scoring that.  I preferred the Cold War superpower angle.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 04, 2013, 07:30:30 AM
Since we have the solar system colonization thread: would anyone be up for a Languish PBEM of High Frontier?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on January 04, 2013, 07:32:49 AM
What would I need for that?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 04, 2013, 07:51:55 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2013, 07:32:49 AM
What would I need for that?

VASSAL. The rules are available, and I own a copy of both the base game and the expansion, so you shouldn't have moral worries :P

I will provide VASSAL and rule links in a separate thread shortly, to draw interest.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Syt on January 04, 2013, 08:01:57 AM
I've never played a VASSAL module of a boardgame. What do I need to know/do?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 04, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2013, 08:01:57 AM
I've never played a VASSAL module of a boardgame. What do I need to know/do?

Well, you need to instal VASSAL, then unzip the module files somewhere, launch it, and then learn to use it. :)

VASSAL is  basically a board and pieces on your computer, altough this particular map has a lot of added extras like overlays to make it easier. So you have all the stuff, like pieces and cards you need, but it will not be able to enforce the rules.

The normal way to PBEM via Vassal is to create "replays". You receive a replay from your opponent, you watch it, then start yours (if its your turn), do your stuff, save the replay, and send it out.

Since this game has zero hidden information, I would be willing to maintain the board myself, in which case you would only be required to be able to load the game saves I'll be sending out (and keep an eye on mistakes! :) )
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on January 04, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
I would play but Tamas would accuse me of using the rules properly to win.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on January 04, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Got Crown of Roses. Mostly just because.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 08:51:17 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 04, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Got Crown of Roses. Mostly just because.

Yeah, the sale price was too good, and the flowers are so darn pretty.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on January 05, 2013, 10:43:41 AM
It's on sale?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:48:25 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on January 05, 2013, 10:43:41 AM
It's on sale?

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 26, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
You gimps might want to check cool stuff inc out. Year end 'blowout' sale looks....alright.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Nothing like getting hit with an MMP charge order for something you forgot you pre-ordered from, like, 9 months ago.   :lol:

THANKS FOR THE WARNING FELLAS
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on January 18, 2013, 06:05:39 AM
Thinking of picking up a copy of Bomb Alley.
Is it any good? And does it allow solitaire play?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
I suppose it's solitaire capable...as much as hidden movement of naval and aircraft can be. :unsure:

But it's my favorite of all the AP WW2 titles.  Brits and Italians.  It's like a Division 1AA match-up.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on January 24, 2013, 03:08:05 AM
Took out Fields of Fire again, and once again I am taken away what a fun and authentic-feeling experience it can be once you tackled the rules (which are, funnily enough, extremely easy once you get a grip. Prepare for furious rulebook-searching until then, though).

You are, in effect, the captain of an infantry company, and you need to worry about terrain, maintaining communication with your platoons during advance, striking a balance between locating and defeating the enemy in due time without running blind into an ambush - fun fun fun

eg:
I started the Normandy campaign again. Right in the first mission the map was very bad: it was small, and the top right section of it was like a huge hill, overseeing most of the rest of the map. Instead of trying to tackle the big hill-section head-on, I designated the left top edge of the map as the objective, trying to use LOS rules to my advantage. Only problem was that one of the two columns of terrain cards leading there had a clear line of sight through most of it, and sure enough, a scouting squad made contact with a German bunker - heavy MG combo, which promptly pinned the squad and its whole platoon behind it for most of the scenario.
I got extremely lucky with the rest of the contact draws though, so all I had to do is flank the bunker and get rid of ze Germans.

Fast forward to the 2nd mission (9th Infantry's first contact with the Falschirmjagers rushing to the defense), and the map is even worse. It is bigger than the first, it only has a single-space hill, but again at the top end of the map. Worst of all, it has some pretty limited safe lines of possible advance, with a lot of open fields and terrains barely giving any cover. The top end of the map, where I had to designate my two objectives, ended up with some boccages on the left end, a couple of village spaces and a church at the right edge. Boccage blocked view to them.

This meant a few things: first of all, I could except to need some considerable firepower to dislodge any enemy held up in the village-with-church section. With time limited, it meant I had to push forward agressively. But, with most lines of advance being abysmal cover-wise, there was a real challenge of bottlenecking myself to oblivion, if the safe routes come under enemy fire.
Only advantage of the clear terrain was that I had some considerable artillery support at my disposal, so spotters could shine in removing initial resistance, or smoke-cover the advance.

Because of this, I decided to move all 3 platoons forward at the same time beside each other, on the right end of the map. Idea being that if any close-range resistance comes up I will be able to quickly lay crossfire on it, and I would use the safest route of the 3 being opened to move up support equipment like my machine gun sections and the bazooka teams.

My luck with the contact draws ended quickly though. While the initial contact with a light machine gun team ended in quickly forcing it to fall back via crossfire, a sniper pinned down one of my platoons, while a squad moving into an open field got teared to pieces by an incoming mortar strike.
But I was about to deal with the sniper and the mortar spotter, when an enemy HQ event (these are pretty rare), triggered a counter-attack. Again, a nasty draw saw my freshly promoted veteran platoon be just about swept away by being hit by an artillery strike while being exposed, an other platoon got less decimated by an other artillery strike due to being already in cover in village houses along the way, and a couple of new machine gun nests opened fire.

So this where I am now. I have lost two platoon commanders, my workhorse platoon of veterans lay dead and injured in a god damn marsh. I will need to move the XO and the 1st Sergeant forward to take charge of the situation, because almost half of the scenario is over and I am yet to encounter the worst resistance.
I will also need to check rules on telephone wires on destroyed units, because those two platoon HQs carried like 2/3rd of my wire stockpile and there is a shitload of terrain to advance, and judged by happenings so far, I don't feel like moving my company HQ forward too much.

Can't wait to get home and continue :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 03, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
http://www.nutspublishing.com/To-the-last-man!

Comes out soonish--the pre-order numbers have been met and it's off to the printers for finalizing.  Considering it's based on a tried system, I have high hopes for it.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/128780/pax-porfiriana

A kind of distilled version of Lords of the Sierra Madre that I bought recently and played a few times at the recent Niagara convention.  Players take on the roles of various hacendados of northwest Mexico and the southwest USA and attempt to either succeed in overthrowing Presidente Porfirio Diaz or keeping him propped up (he's good for business!).  Players buy enterprises (mines, ranches, plantations--slaves included--and banks), recruit business partners, exploit the locals and engage in troop movements either to protect their own businesses or to extort other players' enterprises.  Four stages of governance (Anarchy, US Intervention, Martial Law and Pax Porfiriana) determine how much each business produces while the players constantly try to manipulate the stage of governance to their own advantage.

Even with my playing it three times already, there's still plenty that I haven't seen.  The game has a deck of 200 cards and only ~40-60 of them will see play each game based on the number of players.  Some games will be relatively poor in the number of enterprises, making money extremely scarce where others will see the players flush with gold and outbidding one-another on things to spend it on.  A neat, little system all around.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on February 03, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
Didn't I mention Pax Porfiriana here already? It's really cool and was well liked by my boardgaming crowd, despite them being quite far from history nerdness on the Languish scale.

What you need to do, Habs, is a Vassal module for it, so we can have a Languish game of it, as that would be total hillarity :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 03, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: Tamas on February 03, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
Didn't I mention Pax Porfiriana here already?

If you did, my scroll wheel ate it.  :P

QuoteIt's really cool and was well liked by my boardgaming crowd, despite them being quite far from history nerdness on the Languish scale.

What you need to do, Habs, is a Vassal module for it, so we can have a Languish game of it, as that would be total hillarity :P

Buy me a scanner and I'll think about it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 03, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Look what I found!

http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Pax_Porfiriana
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on February 04, 2013, 05:19:11 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 03, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
Even with my playing it three times already, there's still plenty that I haven't seen.  The game has a deck of 200 cards and only ~40-60 of them will see play each game based on the number of players.  Some games will be relatively poor in the number of enterprises, making money extremely scarce where others will see the players flush with gold and outbidding one-another on things to spend it on.  A neat, little system all around.

I only played two games of this, the first had an abundance of enterprises, so was like a relatively peaceful tableau-building game, with gradually escalating "PvP" actions as the economical empires built up.

The second was much more scarce on businesses, so there was some fierce give and take of hurtful cards and troops, which of course made the existing Mexican businesses even more risky, and everyone tried to take some US enterprises for a more stable income.

But despite these two greatly different plays, in both instances, the player who took a measured long-term stance to building up his empire won, which I found particularly impressive about the system: despite the high randomness, crazy high-risk play seemed to not work.

VASSAL module looks great, too bad there's only 4 players.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 03:24:33 PM
GMT's first shipping and production update for the year, for those of you not on their email list:

QuoteCharging and Shipping Schedule

Shipping: We will begin shipping our newest game, Commands & Colors Napoleonics Expansion: The Russian Army, late this week.

Charging: As we announced last week, we will charge for Commands & Colors Napoleonics Expansion: The Russian Army tomorrow, February 5th. If you use the "pay by check" option for your P500 orders, please send your check right away, as we will begin shipping late this week. We won't have any more charges for a couple weeks, until we get closer to having the March releases in the warehouse.

Tentative Production Schedule

Tony and Mark have laid out a Master Production Schedule for most of 2013. As always, this is a TENTATIVE schedule - things could change based on final development issues, production snags, etc - and new games could pop onto the list as you guys order your favorites. You can figure, though, that the 1st and 2nd Quarter information is pretty firm, with things getting a bit hazier for 3rd and (especially) 4th quarter. So, that said, here's what the current tentative game release schedule looks like:

Late this Week:
C & C Napoleonics: The Russian Army

March, 2013:
Iron & Oak
Newtown/Oriskany
Rebel Raiders on the High Seas

April, 2013:

Battle for Normandy Expansion Pack
Roads to Moscow

May, 2013:

Combat Commander BP #5: Fall of the West
No Retreat: The North African Front

June, 2013
C & C Napoleonics: The Austrians
Navajo Wars
The Supreme Commander
The Hunters (for ConSim Press)

July, 2013:
Sichelschnitt, 1940 (Name Change Coming Soon)
Operation Dauntless
C&C Ancients Reprints of Expansions 1,2,3

For WBC, 2013:
A Distant Plain
Cuba Libre
A World at War (Reprint)
Sekigahara (Reprint)

Mid-Late 3rd Quarter, 2013

1914: Offensive a Outrance
C&C Napoleonics: The Prussian Army
Churchill
The Dark Valley
Thunder Alley
Won by the Sword

4th Quarter, 2013 (VERY tentative):

Blood & Roses
Combat Commander BP 6: Sea Lion
Panzer Expansion #3: Drive to the Rhine
Unconditional Surrender
Wild Blue Yonder
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 04, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Rebel Raiders and Won By the Sword are the only things I want.  I used to order a lot more from GMT.   :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2013, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 04, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
I used to order a lot more from GMT.   :(

I don't know if it's a lack of imagination, or the fact that anything that could conceivably be covered has been covered.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 07, 2013, 12:36:34 AM
Lack of imagination and a lot of rehashes, mainly.  I have plenty of MMP and Clash of Arms stuff on pre-order and most of the stuff that Battles/Nuts Publishing has been putting out has been worthwhile.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 09, 2013, 07:18:31 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1280624810/the-guns-of-gettysburg

Guns of Gettysburg (the "sequel" to Bowen Simmons' Napoleon's Triumph and Bonaparte at Marengo) is up on KS.  Some of the locals and I have done the 4-copy option.  Judging from all the developer diaries that have been published through the years and based on the fun of NT, I'm hoping for good things out of this.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 02:05:10 AM
But NT sucked.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 10, 2013, 03:07:07 AM
What is the hook of this game as opposed to every other Gettysburg game out there?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 10, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 02:05:10 AM
But NT sucked.

Fortunately, there is a support option on Kickstarter for you if you think that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on February 10, 2013, 10:00:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 10, 2013, 03:07:07 AM
What is the hook of this game as opposed to every other Gettysburg game out there?

Can somebody from Georgia have too many Civil War games? Who knows, in one of them, the CSA will finally win!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 10, 2013, 03:07:07 AM
What is the hook of this game as opposed to every other Gettysburg game out there?

The hook for the system is due more of its non-traditional approach to units and map movement;  it appeal to the 19th century General Staffer.  And the basics are simple enough to learn on the fly.

Just wish the new title was on a more competitive battle than Gettysburg.  And yes:  ugh, another Gettysburg title.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Why do people keep saying "...another Gettysburg title"?

I actually cannot think of any good, playable GB wargames.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Why do people keep saying "...another Gettysburg title"?

Because there are a lot of Gettysburg titles out there as it is, with more on the way?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
Why do people keep saying "...another Gettysburg title"?

Because there are a lot of Gettysburg titles out there as it is, with more on the way?

Name one thought that is well done and playable.

Considering it is probably the most famous battle in American history, I am kind of amazed there is not a single game out there on the subject that is any good without being a monster in size.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 06:22:23 PM
Name one thought that is well done and playable.

First you said "good, playable", now you're saying "well done" and "playable".  The old Avalon Hill 1958 version is good and certainly playable.  :P

QuoteConsidering it is probably the most famous battle in American history, I am kind of amazed there is not a single game out there on the subject that is any good without being a monster in size.

My problem with the battle the way games have portrayed it is that unless there are staggered victory conditions, Johnny Reb doesn't really stand a chance.  Hell, there are more games out there where the Germans have a better chance at Stalingrad.



Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 06:50:23 PM
I think the mistake that is made in regards to GB is that the designers assign nominal VPs to historical locations.

Which is stupid. Nobody fought over the Peach Orchard because it mattered, they fought over it because that is where they ran into each other. Little Round Top is not important EXCEPT for its tactical relelvance. You should want to fight over it because it unhinges (maybe) a Union position along Seminary Ridge - hence it doesn't need to have VPs assigned to it in and of itself.

We need a GB game at the brigade level where the VPs are based on fixing and destroying the enemy army, not on grabbing some piece of ground that is of only historical relevance. Then perhaps the CSA can have a chance, rather than letting the US player grab the ridge first, then force the CSA player to attack him.

But my point is that there really isn't a good GB game out there. You have to reach back over a half century to find an example, which pretty nicely proves my point. If we can have another good GB game 50+ years after the last one, I think we can safely say that there is no market saturation on the topic.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2013, 06:50:23 PM
I think the mistake that is made in regards to GB is that the designers assign nominal VPs to historical locations.

Which is stupid. Nobody fought over the Peach Orchard because it mattered, they fought over it because that is where they ran into each other. Little Round Top is not important EXCEPT for its tactical relelvance. You should want to fight over it because it unhinges (maybe) a Union position along Seminary Ridge - hence it doesn't need to have VPs assigned to it in and of itself.

We need a GB game at the brigade level where the VPs are based on fixing and destroying the enemy army, not on grabbing some piece of ground that is of only historical relevance. Then perhaps the CSA can have a chance, rather than letting the US player grab the ridge first, then force the CSA player to attack him.

That's why I think Gettysburg fits better into an wider campaign model, than a focus on the battle itself like Antietam, Shiloh or Chickamauga, one that doesn't focus on achieving goals that weren't goals at the time, like you say;  may explain why GCACW's Roads To Gettysburg proved to be the most popular title of the series:  it works better on an operational macro level, as a meeting engagement that turns into a monumental battle that can be avoided at that time and place rather than on the battle itself, which I feel is simply too lop-sided historically once the first day placements are established.

QuoteBut my point is that there really isn't a good GB game out there. You have to reach back over a half century to find an example, which pretty nicely proves my point. If we can have another good GB game 50+ years after the last one, I think we can safely say that there is no market saturation on the topic.

Well, there's a substantial drop off between Gettysburg '58 and Terrible Swift Sword.  :D  But sometimes those old AH titles were so much fun because they worked in their simplicity.  But over-engineered wargames is for another thread.

Granted, there's no real market saturation on GB, since there are ACW fanbois out there that will suck up every Gettysburg title out there because there's still a substantial romanticism attached to wargaming the Lost Cause, ZOMG ITS MAH HERITAGE, etc, but still, gack, there's a shitload of GB titles out there.  I don't really see how the NT treatment with Guns of Gettysburg should do anything for the battle itself, other than its approach to rules, but I haven't really been following its development.

I am looking forward to seeing how MMP's redo of Gettysburg with the None But Heroes Lines of Battle rules set works out, though.  If you haven't checked it out, it's a substantial revamp of the RSS This Hallowed Ground rules, particularly with the command-control orders issuance features.  Should still be a Super-Size Me scope, though.

I just noticed I haven't had a GB title in my collection for years.  So yeah, point taken.  :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on February 10, 2013, 07:50:13 PM
Damn, I have been trying to remember the name of the boardgame of the Gettysburg Campaign.  I covers the whole Lee Moves North scenario - it was written as some sort of doctoral research by a lady, then it was cleaned up and became a game.  It had leaders and detachable divisions and the ability of the Union to take the troops around Washington and make a 2nd army...and fantasy rules if Jackson hadn't died and Hooker grew a pair, etc.

Help a brother out here?

-edit- I know, not a lot to go on here...
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 08:59:37 PM
Doesn't ring any bells, Professor.  Going to have to read around for that.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
West End printed those games. I think Decision has the rights and have it in print.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
I think.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
West End printed those games. I think Decision has the rights and have it in print.

That would explain why it doesn't ring any bells.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:13:02 PM
I just noticed the avatar. I laffed.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
And it was 'Killer Angels'. My memory: shot.  Just like Dan Sickles.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
My memory: shot.  Just like Dan Sickles.

Same limp, too.   :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
Ow.  :lol:

And you fuckers are going to get me spending again.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:13:02 PM
I just noticed the avatar. I laffed.

It's Couples Skate now.  Outta the rink, kid.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on February 10, 2013, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
And it was 'Killer Angels'. My memory: shot.  Just like Dan Sickles.

Bingo!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on February 10, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
And it was 'Killer Angels'. My memory: shot.  Just like Dan Sickles.

Yeah, I think I still have my copy of that one.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on February 11, 2013, 07:58:45 AM
I do too - it is in the box, in another box, under some more boxes.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Kleves on February 11, 2013, 05:26:48 PM
The Chinese have taken down GMT games:
QuoteWe received some stunning news this morning when we finally heard from our ISP, and they made it clear to us that WE were the lone target of a massive DOS attack, large enough to bring all their servers down. The good news is that it was only a DOS, not something where they got into customer data. So thankfully we have no worries about the security of your data.

The bad news is that we have to find a new ISP and that the GMT site is going to be down for awhile. I spent part of my morning talking with the FBI, so please understand that we can't talk in detail about every aspect that we know while there is an ongoing investigation. The only really important news here is a) your data is fine, and b) the GMT website and e-mail servers are down for the near future.

Some details for you customers:

Contacts and E-Mail. First off, the online chat from the website is down until we have the site up again.

Lost e-mail: If you sent us e-mail since about 3 PM Friday afternoon, it is lost, probably forever. So please resend or call the office ladies.

We have set up a temporary e-mail address for the office ladies that you guys can use to contact them while our gmt mailserver is down. That address is [email protected] Please use this address for contacts with them until further notice. Thanks!

Orders. Obviously, web-ordering is down until the site is back up. Our office ladies are still ready to take your orders, though, as always! Just call 800-523-6111 or e-mail to [email protected] and they'll fix you up.

E-Mail Updates: I use an off-site service for the mass customer e-mail updates, so I'll use that venue as well as CSW and Facebook to give you guys detailed updates as we move forward. Hopefully, we can get this fixed before too long.

Thanks for your patience with us as we work to get everything back up and functioning normally. If you have any suggestions - especially you guys who work in the realm of internet security, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected]

Enjoy the games!

Gene
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Solmyr on February 11, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
What, did some GMT game portray 1930s China as disunited?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 12, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on February 11, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
What, did some GMT game portray 1930s China as disunited?

Little yellow bastards probably just think their OOB is underpowered in Next War: Korea.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on February 12, 2013, 01:29:01 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on February 11, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
What, did some GMT game portray 1930s China as disunited?


Wonder what the PRC's response would be to War of Resistance, with it's 15 different Chinese factions (not counting the various Japanese puppets)?  :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 12, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
Like everybody else's opinion of HMS/GRD, they wouldn't care.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 13, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
Hey Hab or anybody else;  anyone have GMT's Pax Baltica?  I'm sure a few Euros must have it considering the topic.  Interested in thoughts on it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 13, 2013, 02:34:50 PM
I thought it was a neat idea and the game itself isn't bad, per se (no major errata, the rules are well put together and so on), but...it's lacking in anything of what I would call real fun or significant choices, at least based upon my play of it.

John Buse's thoughts are very similar to my own :

QuoteThe most troubling part was the lack of any attritional pressure on the Swedes. There is an elaborate Swedish attrition track system, which is triggered when Swedish army blocks are destroyed. But with reasonably careful play, it is very difficult, bordering on impossible, for Swedish army blocks to be destroyed! The combat system is basically Hammer of the Scots, and the Swedish army blocks are mostly, if not entirely, A rated. No Coalition blocks are A rated, so even if weakened, the Swedes should be able to withdraw before combat if they are attacked. They won't lose an army unless there is no retreat path. While retreat is tricky - you can't retreat to the area you attacked from unless you control it - the Swedes can ensure that this generally doesn't happen.

The A rating of many Swedish blocks does provide an incentive to be historically aggressive, but a prudent Swedish player will be cautiously aggressive - somewhat oxymoronic, perhaps, but you'll see how it works in the game. In contrast, the historical Karl XII was crazy-aggressive (the battles are marked on the map, so you can see where Poltava is - but no sane Swedish player will fight a battle there).

Meanwhile, the attritional pressure on the Russians is much more acute, which seems somewhat backwards. With the inevitable loss of territory and the need to modernize its armies, Russia will frequently be on the losing end of the attritional curve, while in our game the Swedes always were able to build to full strength.

This is all based on a single play of the campaign game, so we may be wrong, but I've seen others report similar experiences. I love the period, like the system, and enjoyed playing, but it didn't seem quite right.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 13, 2013, 02:49:19 PM
Bummer.  Love the period and the concept, but if it's broken at such a fundamental level, it's broken.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on February 13, 2013, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on February 11, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
What, did some GMT game portray 1930s China as disunited?

Could be Russians, no?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on February 14, 2013, 04:36:57 PM
Quote
The A rating of many Swedish blocks does provide an incentive to be historically aggressive, but a prudent Swedish player will be cautiously aggressive - somewhat oxymoronic, perhaps, but you'll see how it works in the game. In contrast, the historical Karl XII was crazy-aggressive

This can be a major problem in a lot of wargames--players tend to not be as aggressive as their historical counterparts.  Sure, wargamers will criticize McClellan or Montgomery for being too risk-adverse, but in actual play, they'll be even more cautious.  And a lot of the tools available to designers to try to encourage historical play are a bit heavy-handed, to say the least:  "The Swedes don't attack Poltava in your game?  Make it worth 500 VPs for them to capture!"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on February 15, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
Here is the thing. you can plan as hard as you want, if the dice are against you in Empire of the Sun, you can fuck it and be mowed down by the Japs.

Not sure what to think of the game.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on February 15, 2013, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 13, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
Hey Hab or anybody else;  anyone have GMT's Pax Baltica?  I'm sure a few Euros must have it considering the topic.  Interested in thoughts on it.

Own the non-GMT version. Haven't played it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 15, 2013, 10:23:49 PM
War Of The Suns hit its pre-order number.  It's officially on its way.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 15, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
I've had that one on preorder for a couple of years now.  I might get a second one for resale bait when it comes out.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 15, 2013, 10:31:17 PM
Yeah, I don't see stock lasting longer than a year, tops.  And you know how MMP loves to reprint.  :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on February 15, 2013, 10:37:35 PM
Adam threw the combat sequence up on facebook and BGG.  Looks pretty involved in a good way. :)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 15, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
As a designer, I trust him.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Larch on February 17, 2013, 12:31:32 PM
Played a scenario of "Strike of the Eagle" (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/83734/strike-of-the-eagle (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/83734/strike-of-the-eagle)), a wargame set up during the Polish-Soviet 1920 war. Pretty funny how some wargame stereotypes are common in any war involving Russia and whoever is invading it from the west, the invaders (doesn't matter if it's Napoleon, the German Empire, Poland or the Nazis) always have the white on black counters (better troops, equipment and leadership), but are finally drowned in a sea of bodies.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 23, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Finnally found a copy of Federation Space

http://e23.sjgames.com/
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 23, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Finnally found a copy of Federation Space

http://e23.sjgames.com/

Now there was a fun game as a slightly nerdy teenager. Especially if you could get 5 players. Backstabbing ahoy!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on February 23, 2013, 06:35:03 PM
I've been thinking about a concept for a boardgame; now I've had an idea about how I can implement game mechanics.

How much of my time shall I waste on this product, given that something like one in 15-20 general boardgames have any success ? :unsure:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on February 23, 2013, 07:17:34 PM
Never know till you try.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 07:25:47 PM
Pooping Outside: a collectible card game
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2013, 07:57:08 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 23, 2013, 06:35:03 PM
I've been thinking about a concept for a boardgame; now I've had an idea about how I can implement game mechanics.

How much of my time shall I waste on this product, given that something like one in 15-20 general boardgames have any success ? :unsure:

There's a local college here that offer non-credit courses in board game design, with the final project of the semester to create your own game.
I'd probably fail on attendance.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
MINT IN BOX: THE GAME
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on February 23, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 23, 2013, 07:17:34 PM
Never know till you try.

Yeah, but it's a lot of money to first pay someone to do all of the artwork and then the small matter of an initial 'print run'.   :hmm:

Oh and it's a 'family' game so no interest to anyone here, not a black on white 5-6-6 counter to be seen.   :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on February 23, 2013, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
MINT IN BOX: THE GAME

:lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on February 23, 2013, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2013, 07:57:08 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 23, 2013, 06:35:03 PM
I've been thinking about a concept for a boardgame; now I've had an idea about how I can implement game mechanics.

How much of my time shall I waste on this product, given that something like one in 15-20 general boardgames have any success ? :unsure:

There's a local college here that offer non-credit courses in board game design, with the final project of the semester to create your own game.
I'd probably fail on attendance.

Hmm, sounds like a good idea. 

Not directed at you, but given the historical nerdism+ number of opinions on games most people have here, I'd think that most of us would have at least one reasonable or fairly decent idea for a boardgame. 

I don't know why more of us, other than Grumbler and our resident videogame designers, haven't tried even just prototype games for further play testing ?

I reckon there's some hidden talent of this forum. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
I made a campaign system for West End's Imperium Romanum II to simulate the empire until 476. It worked, but it was clunky and required a wad of paperwork.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
MINT IN BOX: THE GAME

:P
STFU and go download Zulus On The Ramparts for the iPad.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 23, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
I'd need to add cash to iTunes. Money is tight right now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2013, 11:13:48 PM
Liar.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on February 24, 2013, 10:46:07 AM
 :ph34r:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 06:41:46 PM
My war gaming buying itch fired up(spring has sprung!) and I noticed something:

WWII TOTALLY BORES THE FUCK OUT OF ME NOW.

The guy who cheated playing Stalingrad Pocket by bumping the table? The dude who only wanted to build SS units in War in the east?

The love is gone.

:(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
Try WW1, then.  Your boys over at Decision have reprinted the entire Der Weltkrieg collection.
Get your Austria Hungary on.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
http://shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SPW108A


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Maybe.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
Maybe, my black ass.  I'm unemployed, and even I pulled the trigger on that shit.

DO IT NOW DO IT NOW DO IT NOW
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 07:10:52 PM
Oh, okay.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 07:12:19 PM
You're lying to me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 07:12:59 PM
Yes. I'm still going through their selection.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
My brain is telling me to comparison shop.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: dps on March 06, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
My brain is telling me to comparison shop.

Then get Over There.  On sale now for half off.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 07, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
Yuk. Europa.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 04:55:06 PM
My March To Victory and Over There are just sitting around, waiting for the right time to meet that special person that wants to pay through the nose for them.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 07, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
Ordered Summer storm and Fateful Lightning from Noble.

Fuck, i cant wait to see this map.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic89476.jpg&hash=7a4b774450704ddbc36129bc62e81d25c04cd684)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Minsky Moment on March 07, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
Try WW1, then.  Your boys over at Decision have reprinted the entire Der Weltkrieg collection.
Get your Austria Hungary on.

Which is the best of those?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 07, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
Ordered Summer storm and Fateful Lightning from Noble.

Fuck, i cant wait to see this map.

Then you need to get the expansion for Summer Storm, The Devil's To Pay.  Has overlap maps to extend the battle to include the Dillsburg action.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 07, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
Try WW1, then.  Your boys over at Decision have reprinted the entire Der Weltkrieg collection.
Get your Austria Hungary on.

Which is the best of those?

I'm partial to the Eastern Front and Italian Front action.  If you pick up the Eastern Front reprint, you get all those previous games that included Galicia, Tannenberg and the Serbs, all that stuff.  Italian Front hooks up to it, so you can do all the Balkans action from Trieste down to the Ottoman border.  How can you not love hot Balkan WW1 action?

If you don't get the whole enchilada at once, I'd go Eastern Front, Italian Front then Ottoman or Western, depending on your tastes. 
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 07, 2013, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 07, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
Ordered Summer storm and Fateful Lightning from Noble.

Fuck, i cant wait to see this map.

Then you need to get the expansion for Summer Storm, The Devil's To Pay.  Has overlap maps to extend the battle to include the Dillsburg action.

cool
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Lets see what the Polish take on Kursk is. OOB looks desent. Map area looks good. Rules look clean.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1014355.jpg&hash=ad73f1fb13cd51e77cda67b95f2b26672c548a1c)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 09, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
OMG, white on black counters. nazi glorification!!!!!!
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 09, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
OMG, white on black counters. nazi glorification!!!!!!

Eh, blame the Poles..er I mean Marti  :D
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 09, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
OMG, white on black counters. Chicago White Sox glorification!!!!!!


FYP
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Lets see what the Polish take on Kursk is.

First game ever published with Panzer Ws.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 09, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
Kampfgruppe Wiktor
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Lets see what the Polish take on Kursk is.

First game ever published with Panzer Ws.

You lost me
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Panzer V ---> LOL, Wiktor --->  Panzer W


ITS A JOKE SON A GAG IMMA PITCHIN EM BUT YOU AINTA SWINGIN AT EM
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 09, 2013, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Panzer V ---> LOL, Wiktor --->  Panzer W


ITS A JOKE SON A GAG IMMA PITCHIN EM BUT YOU AINTA SWINGIN AT EM

ah so
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on March 09, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Panzer V ---> LOL, Wiktor --->  Panzer W


ITS A JOKE SON A GAG IMMA PITCHIN EM BUT YOU AINTA SWINGIN AT EM

The boy is about as smart as a sack full of wet mice.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on March 10, 2013, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Panzer V ---> LOL, Wiktor --->  Panzer W


ITS A JOKE SON A GAG IMMA PITCHIN EM BUT YOU AINTA SWINGIN AT EM

joke, ha? You lucky SOB you don't have to play with Polacks in World of Tanks. As if constant "Siema"-ing wasnt enough insult, they keep doing stuff like talking about this tanks called "KW-1" and "KW-2"
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Calm down Beavis.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 10, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: Tamas on March 10, 2013, 01:37:33 PM
You lucky SOB you don't have to play with Polacks in World of Tanks. As if constant "Siema"-ing wasnt enough insult, they keep doing stuff like talking about this tanks called "KW-1" and "KW-2"

We have to deal with Brazilians with their pig Spanish.  Brasielieros?  Brazzieres?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: PDH on March 10, 2013, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Calm down Beavis.

Beetvis
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 09:11:46 PM
https://shop.strategyandtacticspress.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ST283

I CAME.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 10, 2013, 09:13:59 PM
Oh my.  Oh my, indeed.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
I haven't had such a murder boner since I last saw SPI's World War 3.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 10, 2013, 09:19:15 PM
Meh, World War 3 was wholly unsatisfying, IMHO.  Yeah, it had ICBMs and shit, but all the conventional stuff really muddied it all up.  Talk about counter density on that little ass map.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 10, 2013, 09:23:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 09:11:46 PM
https://shop.strategyandtacticspress.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ST283


:)

but I do remember the last game I bought that he designed.  :glare:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 10, 2013, 09:48:28 PM
For you likers of mushroom clouds

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38205/first-strike
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
DTP? Pass.

I get enough arts and crafts with the kids.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 10, 2013, 09:52:46 PM
I've considered both his nuke games--he's got another one from the 1960's called DropShot--but they're both DTP, and I hate those.  They always turn out like shit when I do it.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 10, 2013, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 10, 2013, 09:52:46 PM
I've considered both his nuke games--he's got another one from the 1960's called DropShot--but they're both DTP, and I hate those.  They always turn out like shit when I do it.

If I could do it. You lazy shits would have no probs.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/404003_4275393454272_827562103_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: mongers on March 10, 2013, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 10, 2013, 09:11:46 PM
https://shop.strategyandtacticspress.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ST283

I CAME.

OK, must be quite good as it's got Vulcans.  Plus by the look of the counters, Super Genie atomic AA missiles.   :cool:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on March 11, 2013, 03:44:33 AM
I don't remember having to cut out Warplan Dropshot counters on my own.  :huh:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2013, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 11, 2013, 03:44:33 AM
I don't remember having to cut out Warplan Dropshot counters on my own.  :huh:

It's only available in DTP now.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on March 11, 2013, 08:21:02 AM
Should have bought the the 60s version as well when I had the chance, then.  :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on March 11, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg18.imageshack.us%2Fimg18%2F9177%2Fttlmkitweb.jpg&hash=a8aad19d5dbbeb47e5d5f5be31f3d9b2e19aa6cd)
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 12, 2013, 05:53:55 PM
Another Polish game I'm waiting on http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/67272/alma-balaclava-inkerman-1854-bloody-steppes-of

Cant read their website to get any current updates.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Habbaku on March 12, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/springboard/emperors-new-clothes?ref=live
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on March 14, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
Odd. I feel I'm missing out on what makes that brilliant. :(
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 14, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
Odd. I feel I'm missing out on what makes that brilliant. :(

its a joke
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 14, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 14, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
Odd. I feel I'm missing out on what makes that brilliant. :(

its a joke

Heel , even I got that one. :P
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: garbon on March 14, 2013, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 14, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
Odd. I feel I'm missing out on what makes that brilliant. :(

its a joke

I know it is a joke. I don't know why it is a brilliant joke. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 14, 2013, 10:08:52 PM
It's a neck and neck race to see which gets here first. The Polish Kusk game or Duel of Eagles. Noble Knight vs Victory point. Reading the downloaded rules to Duel of Eagles now.

Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 15, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Those maps from Summer Storm should be framed and hung up. Christ.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: The Brain on March 15, 2013, 06:20:05 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 15, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Those maps from Summer Storm should be framed and hung up. Christ.

Like black people?
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 15, 2013, 06:23:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 15, 2013, 06:20:05 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 15, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Those maps from Summer Storm should be framed and hung up. Christ.

Like black people?

I was thinking Polacks
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Maladict on March 17, 2013, 03:01:01 PM
Quote from: Maladict on January 18, 2013, 06:05:39 AM
Thinking of picking up a copy of Bomb Alley.


It's here.  :mmm:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 30, 2013, 02:13:14 PM
Seedy, I could no longer resist. I'm weak. I found a copy of The Next War at a good price and pulled the trigger.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 30, 2013, 06:24:46 PM
You're a good egg, 11B.

It's old and SPI ugly, but since Starkweather doesn't like seem he'll be getting to The Doomsday Project anytime soon, it will have to do for all your war boner.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 30, 2013, 08:01:49 PM
There doesnt seem to be much movement on that.


Anyhoo till then I'll have fun with tNW. Hedgehog defense, Breakthrough Zones, Column Assault and persistant chems, oh the memories.

Oh and the poor Leichenstein speed bump :lol:
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 30, 2013, 09:46:22 PM
Check out some of the revamped rules on the forums;  there's been some tinkering with the air game by the community.  People say the air game's slanted to the WP, but I would think that NATO would see atrocious attrition rates at the get-go in a late 1970's invasion. 
Just protect those A-10s, they're fresh off the assembly line.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on March 30, 2013, 11:05:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 30, 2013, 09:46:22 PM
Check out some of the revamped rules on the forums;  there's been some tinkering with the air game by the community.  People say the air game's slanted to the WP, but I would think that NATO would see atrocious attrition rates at the get-go in a late 1970's invasion. 
Just protect those A-10s, they're fresh off the assembly line.

Digging through the CSW folder. Seen a lot of good stuff. Comical tiff over the CRT. IMO Mark Herman gave a very lucid explanation not to the liking of a couple (obviously severe OCD) people. He made sense to me.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 03, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
The Doomsday Project is still alive. They need to get that on P500
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 04, 2013, 06:04:32 PM
Apparently someone else is trying to get a WP/Nato game out too.

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.1dd37337/315
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 04, 2013, 06:33:09 PM
Ugh, Gulf strike system.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: 11B4V on April 04, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
Dont be a girl.

I am current awaiting my WP/Nato resupply arrivals.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 04, 2013, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 04, 2013, 06:33:09 PM
Ugh, Gulf strike system.

You didn't have a fucking problem with it in high school.
Title: Re: The NEW New Boardgames Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 04, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 04, 2013, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 04, 2013, 06:33:09 PM
Ugh, Gulf strike system.

You didn't have a fucking problem with it in high school.

I do now. I want my rule books thin. Like Ide's women.
Title: Re: The NEW New Bo