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NFL announces Wild Card schedule
Posted: January 3rd, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Wild Card Weekend schedule
NFL WILD CARD WEEKEND SCHEDULE
Saturday, Jan. 9
AFC: 4:30 p.m. ET — NY Jets at Cincinnati (NBC-TV)
NFC: 8 p.m. ET — Philadelphia at Dallas (NBC-TV)
Sunday, Jan. 10
AFC: 1 p.m. ET — Baltimore at New England (CBS-TV)
NFC: 4:40 p.m. ET — Green Bay at Arizona (FOX-TV)
I eagerly await how the NFl screwed over the Ravens in this scheduling.
Quiet, you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2010, 11:34:44 PM
Quiet, you.
Hey man, my team has been out of it since week 6, i've got nuttin but shit to talk. Of the teams in playoffs I'll be rooting for Ravens and Bolts.
Reading the Boston papers is hilarious. You'd think Wes Welker was assassinated at Ford's Theater or something.
Bob Ryan will be especially annoying this week on ESPN.
Obviously the Pats need to pick up Bernard Pollard in FA to stop these kinds of things from happening :P
Quote from: katmai on January 04, 2010, 12:12:01 AM
Obviously the Pats need to pick up Bernard Pollard in FA to stop these kinds of things from happening :P
Imagine all the damage he would do to them in multiple practices! They'd be down to Tim at quarterback! :ph34r:
Quote from: katmai on January 03, 2010, 11:34:18 PM
I eagerly await how the NFl screwed over the Ravens in this scheduling.
:lol:
The Texans are exercising the option in Schaub's contract. $10 million bucks as a bonus plus three more years.
Also screw you guys, Pollard better stay in Houston. :mad:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 04, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
The Texans are exercising the option in Schaub's contract. $10 million bucks as a bonus plus three more years.
Also screw you guys, Pollard better stay in Houston. :mad:
Schaub has turned into a pretty good QB; hopefully they can hold onto Andre Johnson, they seem to be on their way.
Quote from: sbr on January 04, 2010, 12:44:14 AM
Schaub has turned into a pretty good QB; hopefully they can hold onto Andre Johnson, they seem to be on their way.
Johnson signed a new 6 year deal in 07, so he's staying for a while longer at least.
The big ones coming up soon are Owen Daniels and DeMeco Ryans (and Pollard :P).
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2010, 12:02:24 AM
Reading the Boston papers is hilarious. You'd think Wes Welker was assassinated at Ford's Theater or something.
Bob Ryan will be especially annoying this week on ESPN.
:mad:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 04, 2010, 12:47:09 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 04, 2010, 12:44:14 AM
Schaub has turned into a pretty good QB; hopefully they can hold onto Andre Johnson, they seem to be on their way.
Johnson signed a new 6 year deal in 07, so he's staying for a while longer at least.
The big ones coming up soon are Owen Daniels and DeMeco Ryans (and Pollard :P).
Does the deal have an opt out clause? I have seen a couple of articles saying that Johnson may leave if the Texans didn't make the playoffs this year. I didn't read any of them.
Quote from: sbr on January 04, 2010, 01:04:15 AM
Does the deal have an opt out clause? I have seen a couple of articles saying that Johnson may leave if the Texans didn't make the playoffs this year. I didn't read any of them.
That was his agent who was talking about trying to force a trade if they didn't make the playoffs or something. Johnson himself denied wanting to do that, but you never know. It'd be a pretty huge trade. As far as an opt out clause, I'd guess there isn't one if they were talking about forcing a trade, but I don't really know how this stuff works.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 04, 2010, 01:08:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 04, 2010, 01:04:15 AM
Does the deal have an opt out clause? I have seen a couple of articles saying that Johnson may leave if the Texans didn't make the playoffs this year. I didn't read any of them.
That was his agent who was talking about trying to force a trade if they didn't make the playoffs or something. Johnson himself denied wanting to do that, but you never know. It'd be a pretty huge trade. As far as an opt out clause, I'd guess there isn't one if they were talking about forcing a trade, but I don't really know how this stuff works.
Nope, I found the article I was thinking of; Nov 30 issue of ESPN the Mag. They were talking about finding a way out, not an opt out so never mind.
With the Steelers eliminated due to incompetence I'll root for the Jets now.
QuoteBut the Ravens need to understand that they can't go into New England expecting to get a single call, and when calls don't go their way, they have to act as if they expected it to happen all along. There isn't some conspiracy against the Ravens as far as penalties, but whining about it never helps. That's a shame, but it's true. And that goes for the head coach too. If the Ravens get flagged for hitting Brady late, or holding Randy Moss or Edelman, they need to stay composed, shut their mouths, and play on as if it will even out eventually. This team does have the talent to beat New England on the road, it just doesn't have the mental discipline right now.
But they do have a chance, and that's going to be fun to watch either way. New England is ok, but not great. They should convince themselves this week that the whole world doesn't want them to win, that every call will go against them, and that Roger Goodell will be using a walkie-talking from a dark booth in Gillette Stadium, demanding phantom flags be thrown. They should tell one another that the league is desperate to have the Colts and Pats meet up in the playoffs once again. And then use that motivation to shock the rest of the world.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 04, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
They'd be down to Tim at quarterback! :ph34r:
We threw 5 interceptions.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2010, 12:02:24 AM
Reading the Boston papers is hilarious. You'd think Wes Welker was assassinated at Ford's Theater or something.
*looks*
heh.
I like this one:
http://news.wbru.com/2010/01/the-curse-of-bernard-pollard/
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2010, 01:37:26 AM
With the Steelers eliminated due to incompetence I'll root for the Jets now.
The Jets are the new bandwagon team-- congrats. And I eagerly await all the hub-bub about a 'Hispanic' QB starting in a playoff game :bleeding:
I know I'm not supposed to read too much into last night's Bungles-Jets game, but the momentum in the Jets' favor does bother me. Bungles are only favored by 2.5 Saturday. It would actually be better for them if they were the dogs.
Am I missing something, or are literally 3 of those 4 games reruns from last week?
Quote from: derspiess on January 04, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2010, 01:37:26 AM
With the Steelers eliminated due to incompetence I'll root for the Jets now.
The Jets are the new bandwagon team-- congrats. And I eagerly await all the hub-bub about a 'Hispanic' QB starting in a playoff game :bleeding:
Uh he's not the first by a long shot :P
Quote from: ulmont on January 04, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
Am I missing something, or are literally 3 of those 4 games reruns from last week?
Yes.
Quote from: katmai on January 04, 2010, 02:09:42 PM
Uh he's not the first by a long shot :P
Didn't say he was the first, just that he'll get overhyped.
Btw did you know his last name is SANCHEZ??? Never mind he doesn't even know enough Spanish to order from the Taco Bell drive-thru menu.
Quote from: derspiess on January 04, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
Btw did you know his last name is SANCHEZ??? Never mind he doesn't even know enough Spanish to order from the Taco Bell drive-thru menu.
See we can assimilate, there is hope for your son!
Quote from: katmai on January 04, 2010, 03:48:28 PM
See we can assimilate, there is hope for your son!
With my luck, he'll be that pesky 2nd generation that absimilates. I fully expect him to be dressing like a gaucho & invading the Falklands by age 19.
So he'll dress like a cowboy and engage in petty wars in South America. Sounds American enough to me.
Quote from: Jacob on January 04, 2010, 04:51:19 PM
So he'll dress like a cowboy and engage in petty wars in South America. Sounds American enough to me.
A swing and a miss-- you were thinking of the US &
Central America.
Quote from: derspiess on January 04, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
I know I'm not supposed to read too much into last night's Bungles-Jets game, but the momentum in the Jets' favor does bother me.
It had better bother you.
Sure, the Bengals were missing a few people and maybe Marvin didn't want to tip his hand to a potential playoff opponent, but man, that was not the way to do it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 04, 2010, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 04, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
I know I'm not supposed to read too much into last night's Bungles-Jets game, but the momentum in the Jets' favor does bother me.
It had better bother you.
Sure, the Bengals were missing a few people and maybe Marvin didn't want to tip his hand to a potential playoff opponent, but man, that was not the way to do it.
Yeah but look at the Packers-Cards as well, hell the Eagles-Cowboys as well :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on January 04, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 04, 2010, 01:37:26 AM
With the Steelers eliminated due to incompetence I'll root for the Jets now.
The Jets are the new bandwagon team-- congrats. And I eagerly await all the hub-bub about a 'Hispanic' QB starting in a playoff game :bleeding:
I know I'm not supposed to read too much into last night's Bungles-Jets game, but the momentum in the Jets' favor does bother me. Bungles are only favored by 2.5 Saturday. It would actually be better for them if they were the dogs.
Unless Marvin threw that game I'd be concerned. Chad Johnson (he did say he'd change his name back if Revis owned him :P ) is possibly out and a bunch of Cinci's starters are banged up.
And screw the bandwagoners the true fans suffer through their team's game chokes and blown draft choices.
Quote from: Vince on January 04, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
Unless Marvin threw that game I'd be concerned.
He didn't throw the game, per se, but he wasn't going all out to win it, either. The Bungles blitzed exactly one time, and ran a straight I formation on offense for as much of the game as I could bear to watch. They were about as vanilla as you could get, so the Jets have very little to look at on film this week.
Rex Ryan erred in not dialing things back on his side once the game was a foregone conclusion (i.e., the 1st quarter:lol: ). So the Bungles do have some things to look at, which may give them a little bit of an edge. For all their faults, the coaching staff has done a pretty decent job of making adjustments when needed.
QuoteChad Johnson (he did say he'd change his name back if Revis owned him :P ) is possibly out and a bunch of Cinci's starters are banged up.
I never recognized the name change in the first place. He was on Twitter yesterday asking for Fireman Ed's contact info so he could fly him in for the game. Not sure if Ed ever even agreed to take part in the "bet", but whatever.
If he can walk, they better play him. They can win without him catching a ball, but they will have a tougher time without him on the field. Bungles will have Peko back, who is essential if they want to keep the Jets from getting 15 yards per carry up the middle. They'll also have Crocker & Geathers back, which will be a big help for defense.
So on paper, the Bungles' chances don't look too horrible. It's the intangibles that can (and usually do) sink them.
Quote from: Vince on January 04, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
And screw the bandwagoners the true fans suffer through their team's game chokes and blown draft choices.
I almost feel bad for being a Vikes fan.
Well, I've been a Vikings fan since I started following the NFL, which was 2002 or 2003 or so. And the Vikings have been consistently, well, decent, during that time period. Some winning seasons, some playoff wins, some losing seasons. But no period of absolute dreadfulness.
So am I a "true fan"? :huh:
Unlike being a Blue Bombers fan... <_<
What nice about being a modern Als fans is that it's unmitigated success so far.
:yeah:
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 05, 2010, 01:39:49 PM
What nice about being a modern Als fans is that it's unmitigated success so far.
:yeah:
:mad:
Beast of the East, baby!
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
So am I a "true fan"? :huh:
Way too early to tell. You'll know in another 10 years or so.
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
So am I a "true fan"? :huh:
Nope, go back and watch the four Super Bowl loses and then you can call yourself a fan wannabe.
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
It's okay Beeb, I use to get the bandwagon claim being a Niners fan, I couldn't help it my first year watching football was the year of their 1st Superbowl win over those evil, vile Bengals. :P
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you were so sure of your fan like credentials you should not have asked for our honest opinion on the subject.
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2010, 03:35:19 PM
It's okay Beeb, I use to get the bandwagon claim being a Niners fan, I couldn't help it my first year watching football was the year of their 1st Superbowl win over those evil, vile Bengals. :P
Bandwagoner.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 05, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2010, 03:35:19 PM
It's okay Beeb, I use to get the bandwagon claim being a Niners fan, I couldn't help it my first year watching football was the year of their 1st Superbowl win over those evil, vile Bengals. :P
Bandwagoner.
Considering i'm still a fan after this last decade, that dog won't hunt.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 05, 2010, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you were so sure of your fan like credentials you should not have asked for our honest opinion on the subject.
Yeah, because the Love Boat Scandal was such a fabulous time to be a fan...
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2010, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 05, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2010, 03:35:19 PM
It's okay Beeb, I use to get the bandwagon claim being a Niners fan, I couldn't help it my first year watching football was the year of their 1st Superbowl win over those evil, vile Bengals. :P
Bandwagoner.
Considering i'm still a fan after this last decade, that dog won't hunt.
Got me there.
I'm a bandwagoner. When the Oilers packed up and left Houston, I ended up picking up the Broncos very soon after (I lived in Denver), until pretty much everything about the team and fans pissed me off. Luckily, I had the Horns to fall back on (and the Gators while I lived there, although the Texans had already started by then, after they gloriously defeated an 8-0 Georgia team while I was at a bar surrounded by obnoxious Dawgs fans http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=223060061 they made people cry, and I loved it) until the Texans arrived and I immediately latched on.
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 05, 2010, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you were so sure of your fan like credentials you should not have asked for our honest opinion on the subject.
Yeah, because the Love Boat Scandal was such a fabulous time to be a fan...
QuoteAnd the Vikings have been consistently, well, decent, during that time period. Some winning seasons, some playoff wins, some losing seasons. But no period of absolute dreadfulness.
Beebwagoner. You've got to be a Raiders fan and then pick up Cleveland as a second to get real street cred! :lol:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 05, 2010, 04:41:22 PM
Beebwagoner. You've got to be a Raiders fan and then pick up Cleveland as a second to get real street cred! :lol:
Aren't you the one with the man-crush on Orton too? If so, brutal.
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Then you weren't making the effort-- a telltale sign of Beebwagoning :P
Seriously, you can turn from a bandwagoner like Bluto was in the 80s into the true fan he is now just by putting the time in. And you'll grow as a person along the way :D
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2010, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Then you weren't making the effort-- a telltale sign of Beebwagoning :P
Seriously, you can turn from a bandwagoner like Bluto was in the 80s into the true fan he is now just by putting the time in. And you'll grow as a person along the way :D
I was 8! It was just Divine Providence the Niners became the staple for excellence in the 80's ^_^
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2010, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Screw y'all. I'm hardly a bandwagoner. In fact this has been the first year I could actually watch a noticable number of VIkings games (thank you Brett Favre).
Then you weren't making the effort-- a telltale sign of Beebwagoning :P
Seriously, you can turn from a bandwagoner like Bluto was in the 80s into the true fan he is now just by putting the time in. And you'll grow as a person along the way :D
My
real favoure football team has pretty much consistently sucked since 1993. My favourite hockey team hasn't existed for 13 years.
I'm already as much of a man as any sports fan can be. <_<
Quote from: sbr on January 05, 2010, 05:07:21 PM
Aren't you the one with the man-crush on Orton too? If so, brutal.
I am. :cry:
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
Well, I've been a Vikings fan since I started following the NFL, which was 2002 or 2003 or so. And the Vikings have been consistently, well, decent, during that time period. Some winning seasons, some playoff wins, some losing seasons. But no period of absolute dreadfulness.
So am I a "true fan"? :huh:
No.
True fans fuck their women wearing Chuck Foreman jerseys while making them scream "Bud Grant is God!"
Oh let's not forget
<------- Kansas City Royals fan
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Oh let's not forget
<------- Kansas City Royals fan
George Brett won't return your love.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2010, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Oh let's not forget
<------- Kansas City Royals fan
George Brett won't return your love.
Damn restraining order. :mad:
Quote from: Barrister on January 05, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Oh let's not forget
<------- Kansas City Royals fan
Still only matching my futility. :hug:
Shanahan has been hired by Snyder. Hillarious.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 05, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 05, 2010, 05:07:21 PM
Aren't you the one with the man-crush on Orton too? If so, brutal.
I am. :cry:
Hang in there, you might see play off action in the next decade.
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2010, 09:03:23 PM
Shanahan has been hired by Snyder. Hillarious.
Hope springs eternal :P
Man Snyder let Shanahan stay there no matter what the coaching carousel is killing the team. Also...rumor has it Shanahan likes Colt McCoy...do I dare to dream?
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2010, 10:31:20 AM
Man Snyder let Shanahan stay there no matter what the coaching carousel is killing the team. Also...rumor has it Shanahan likes Colt McCoy...do I dare to dream?
Is Shanahan the best evaluator of QB talent out there? I'm sure he liked Cutler.
Quote from: Neil on January 06, 2010, 01:48:18 PM
Is Shanahan the best evaluator of QB talent out there? I'm sure he liked Cutler.
Who knows. One thing we can be sure of is that the Redskins facility will soon include some top of the line tanning booths.
Why the hilarity at hiring Shanahan? It would seem to be a good hire.
Now if Snyder can actually just let the man do the job he hired him to do...
Quote from: Neil on January 06, 2010, 01:48:18 PM
Is Shanahan the best evaluator of QB talent out there? I'm sure he liked Cutler.
Don't know I would just have a fangasm if McCoy joined Orakpo on the Redskins. It would simply be bonus points if he turns out to be as good as Orakpo.
Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
Why the hilarity at hiring Shanahan? It would seem to be a good hire.
Now if Snyder can actually just let the man do the job he hired him to do...
He seemed to be better being less Snyderly when Gibbs was there so maybe a veteran coach Danny dearest respects is the best way to keep him inline. I mean at least Jerry Jones actually played football, Snyder is just a fanboi playing with his toy football team.
Tom Brady is apparently the comeback player of the year. That's just fucking stupid.
Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
Why the hilarity at hiring Shanahan? It would seem to be a good hire.
Now if Snyder can actually just let the man do the job he hired him to do...
Snyder will inevitably destroy his head coach. He can't help it.
I predict the Pats have a good chance of winning their first play off game. But I don't expect them to get very far, if even past the first game. :(
Quote from: KRonn on January 06, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
I predict the Pats have a good chance of winning their first play off game. But I don't expect them to get very far, if even past the first game. :(
Fuck you. The Patriots will fail, even though the NFL will try their hardest to get the Patriots through.
Fuck. Reports are filtering in that The Browns are lowballing Cribbs and have stated that their offer is final. What a great start to your running the Browns franchise Holmgren. :bleeding: I'm now betting the next step will be to fire Mangini. If both go, I may have to abort my new fandom before it truly develops. I don't have enough invested to bear the 2010 equivalent of Bernie getting cut. :(
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 07, 2010, 03:33:29 AM
I don't have enough invested to bear the 2010 equivalent of Bernie getting cut. :(
It's the hurt that keeps giving.
What is a lowball offer for him? I mean, Cribbs is a great return guy, but he's also only a return guy with a touch of utility back.
OK, $1.4 million is a lowball for anyone.
He's also been a loyal trooper for the franchise and kept quiet about the situation all year. He vowed to let his performance on the field speak for itself to make a case for a raise, which I think it most certainly did. The fact that Cribbs is the top return man in the NFL, the loyalty he's shown, the dedication to the fans and community, his position as a team leader, his kick coverage work, his flash/wildcat potential and actual results this year, and his versatility as a runningback, wider receiver, or quarterback makes him damned valuable in my opinion. Hester makes a metric fuck ton more cash, as do such less well known and less skilled returners such as Roscoe Parrish for Buffalo. For once, listen to Deion Sanders and "Pay da man!"
What the fuck. I though you was a Raider guy. Abandon Al, Dark Lord of the Sith? Fag.
Still a Raider fan. The Raiders are the shitty team I inherited being a fan of, and will be stuck a fan of forever. The Browns are the shitty team I chose to be a fan of, and am under less obligation to remain a fan of. There's no leaving the Raider Nation except in a bodybag. Al's crazies hunt down apostates.
Well at least you didn't pick up a hot team, like Tim does with college teams.
Return man is such a streaky position though, you know?
They've been my backburner team since the beginning of the Derek Anderson rising like a phoenix from the ashes of Charlie Frye 07 Season. I was really happy with what they managed to accomplish this season in terms of building a solid foundation and looking like they were headed in the right direction, a welcome change from the eternal craziness that is Raiderland. Alas, the Browns seem hellbent on fucking it up. I didn't like the Holmgren hire, I don't like the lowballing of Cribbs, and I have a feeling Mangini will get canned. Not good signs at all in my opinion.
Meanwhile, the Kool Aid continues to flow at Raider HQ, as Al's muppet John Herrera has mocked Rich Gannon for reaching out to the team to offer his assistance in any capacity they need. They also signed off on Jamarcus going to Vegas and skipping the final team meeting to get there, saying he was excused and there for a legitimate reason. They will never, ever, ever get better as long as Al is in charge. Every year I hold out some hope till usually The Draft. This year, I can't even last that long. Stupid bastards. <_<
To Neil: It is to some degree, but he's been successful for a few years now. Also, he's more than simply a return man, though that is where his primary worth comes from. Hopefully they manage to keep him around and happy and don't go all Hester on him and change his duties because they pay him more.
After listening to Rich Gannon on CBS, I'd tell him to take a hike too. He sounds like a pompus knowitall.
He seems okay on Sirius NFL Radio.
Well, the Browns did beat the Steelers this year, which is their Superbowl.
Mangini is staying on! Now to offer Cribbs a legit pay raise and I'll be a happy little Brownie fan. :)
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
Well I guess if your country doesn't have any curlers that have any name recognition (or talent), then you need to import some name recognition from other sports.
Of course for Canada the name Kevin Martin is enough. :scots:
Quote from: Barrister on January 07, 2010, 07:55:03 PM
Well I guess if your country doesn't have any curlers that have any name recognition (or talent), then you need to import some name recognition from other sports.
Of course for Canada the name Kevin Martin is enough. :scots:
It's interesting the way many countries try and make 'all-star' rinks, while Canadians play for the honour.
My parents actually spent a whole week-and-change in Edmonton for the Olympic qualifiers.
QuoteFans flagged for excessive paranoia
Ravens say they're not worried about officials in Patriot game
As everyone around here knows, Baltimore is the home office for paranoid football fans.
Each Sunday when the Ravens take the field, their fans are consumed with one singular thought: How will the refs hose us this time?
See, with Ravens fans, it's never a question of whether their team is going to get hosed. It's just a question of how bad the hosing will be.
Will it be a major soul-sucking hosing like the one the Ravens got in their 27-14 loss to the Green Bay Packers, when they were penalized so often you'd have thought it was snowing yellow flags?
Or will it just be your garden-variety hosing, a key call here or there that kills a touchdown pass by Joe Flacco or a big sack by Ray Lewis?
Which brings us to this Sunday's playoff game between the Ravens and New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium, and a certain quarterback long thought to be protected by the officials.
If you've been listening to local sports-talk radio or reading Internet message boards, you know that the paranoia about Tom Brady and the refs has reached a fever pitch.
To hear these fans tell it, Brady will get his usual velvet-ropes treatment from the officials.
He'll give another Emmy-winning performance and flop to the ground if a Ravens pass rusher so much as gives him a hard look, and the ref will immediately reach for his flag.
And when Brady isn't getting the calls because he's Tom Brady, superstar quarterback and fair-haired boy of the NFL, Bill Belichick will get the calls because he's, well, Bill Belichick.
He's the Hooded Genius with the three Super Bowl rings, the scowling Yoda of the Gridiron in front of whom game officials quake and the entire league - maybe with the exception of Rex Ryan - genuflects.
Fortunately for them, the Ravens aren't getting caught up in all this doom and gloom about the officials, especially as it relates to how they'll go after Brady.
At Wednesday's media session at the Castle, Ravens coach John Harbaugh was asked by a Boston reporter about the Ravens' 27-21 loss to the Patriots earlier this season.
That was the game the Ravens drew two controversial personal fouls for hits on Brady, prompting Lewis to say the calls were "embarrassing to the game."
"Given how the last game was officiated up there," the Boston guy asked, "how concerned are you about your team's ability to be aggressive?"
Harbaugh looked at him the way you would look at a fly that just landed in your milkshake.
"Uh," he said finally, "we'll be our natural aggressive self and we'll play. I'm not concerned about that at all."
Sure, Harbaugh doesn't give you a whole lot at these media sessions. He gives you a lot of cliches and coach-speak as every other head coach in the NFL does. But you didn't have to read between the lines with that quote.
What he meant is that the Ravens plan to go after Brady hard. They plan to come at him from every direction and smack him every chance they get - within the rules.
And if they're worried that Brady will get special treatment from the refs, they sure do a good job of hiding it.
"You gotta just play football," linebacker Jarret Johnson said. "You can't worry about the penalties. It's just gonna slow you down, and he's gonna carve you up.
"You definitely want to be mindful when you're around him. But you can't be worried about penalties."
If the Ravens have a shot at Brady and worry too much about flags, defensive end Trevor Pryce said, "you'd take your aggression away. And if you take away how we play the game, what are we? We're the Lions."
Ouch. Up in Detroit, they're stapling that one to the bulletin board right now.
Of course, I don't expect any of this to ease the minds of Ravens fans, who have paranoia in their DNA. But I think the Ravens will find a way to get to Brady without flags flying all over the place.
In fact, with wide receiver Wes Welker out and the Patriots' defense struggling all season against the run, I think the Ravens have an excellent chance to come out of this game with a win.
I make the final score Ravens 21, Patriots 17.
Unless I'm being delusional. Which isn't that far from paranoid when you get right down to it.
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
I thought curling was only for women :huh:
Quote from: katmai on January 07, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
I thought curling was only for women :huh:
You are wrong. Men are actually much better curlers than women.
WTF, a curling hijack? :lol:
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 07, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
I thought curling was only for women :huh:
You are wrong. Men are actually much better curlers than women.
But, but Beeb curls!
Quote from: katmai on January 08, 2010, 12:01:21 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 07, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
I thought curling was only for women :huh:
You are wrong. Men are actually much better curlers than women.
But, but Beeb curls!
Don't listen to Neil - some of those ladies teams are really quite mean out there on the ice. :ph34r:
Great, I'll be missing Pats-Ravens on sunday. Unless there's nothing to do at work in which case I'd be paid while watching it, but in what perfect world would that happen?
Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2010, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: katmai on January 08, 2010, 12:01:21 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 07, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
Vernon Davis, the outstanding 49ers tight end (and the subject of Singletary's best rant as a coach) is going to be the honourary captain of the US Men's Olympic curling team.
I would like to know how BB and kat feel about this.
I thought curling was only for women :huh:
You are wrong. Men are actually much better curlers than women.
But, but Beeb curls!
Don't listen to Neil - some of those ladies teams are really quite mean out there on the ice. :ph34r:
Less skilled though.
Quote from: Liep on January 08, 2010, 07:34:54 AM
Great, I'll be missing Pats-Ravens on sunday. Unless there's nothing to do at work in which case I'd be paid while watching it, but in what perfect world would that happen?
That sucks. I'm almost looking forward to that game more than the Bungles-Jets game (for which I am now in the possession of upgraded tickets)
I have decided to throw my support to the Bengals for this year's playoffs.
WHO ARE THEY!
:P
Quote from: Caliga on January 08, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
I have decided to throw my support to the Bengals for this year's playoffs.
WHO ARE THEY!
:P
A bunch of wimps that didnt want to get injured.
Quote from: Caliga on January 08, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
I have decided to throw my support to the Bengals for this year's playoffs.
WHO ARE THEY!
:P
:thumbsdown:
Quote from: Vince on January 08, 2010, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Caliga on January 08, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
I have decided to throw my support to the Bengals for this year's playoffs.
WHO ARE THEY!
:P
:thumbsdown:
I bribed Cal with goetta :ph34r:
Quote from: derspiess on January 08, 2010, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: Vince on January 08, 2010, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Caliga on January 08, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
I have decided to throw my support to the Bengals for this year's playoffs.
WHO ARE THEY!
:P
:thumbsdown:
I bribed Cal with goetta :ph34r:
If I Fed-Ex him a Utica tomato pie and some Chicken Riggies will that change his mind?
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 08, 2010, 01:41:58 PM
A bunch of wimps that didnt want to get injured.
They got injured enough as it was. Thankfully, checking out the injury report, all active/injured players have practiced this week & all but one are listed as Probable.
So hopefully the Bungles are healthy enough to put up a strong fight to prevent the 'Super Bowl favorites' from advancing tomorrow.
Quote from: Vince on January 08, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
If I Fed-Ex him a Utica tomato pie and some Chicken Riggies will that change his mind?
If both are purchased from a gas station, you may. But be aware I know where to buy scrapple :contract:
Quote from: derspiess on January 08, 2010, 04:48:15 PM
They got injured enough as it was. Thankfully, checking out the injury report, all active/injured players have practiced this week & all but one are listed as Probable.
So hopefully the Bungles are healthy enough to put up a strong fight to prevent the 'Super Bowl favorites' from advancing tomorrow.
:lol:
I wish...
See Beeb, now Caliga is a bandwagoneer.
Cal has no football gravitas.
Quote from: katmai on January 08, 2010, 05:02:39 PM
See Beeb, now Caliga is a bandwagoneer.
:yes:
Me = better fan than Caliga. :goodboy:
Ed's Playoff Picks, Wild Card edition:
Jets at Bungles. Bungles by a hair. Bungles aren't that great, but Sanchez turns into Mark Malone. A slightly brown Mark Malone
Ravens at pats. Ravens. I normally don't pick Pats games, but the bellicheat excuse machine makes me. "Brady has banged up ribs!" "the texans turf injured welker!" The pats dynasty is over. Fuck you Tim.
Green Bay at 'Zona. Green Bay. I'll take the GB linebackers anyday.
Eagles at 'Boys. 'Boys. I'd rather have Donovan win, but Tony Homo pulls it out. :(
No point spreads, because I don't give a fuck. bite me.
Off topic, but ...
Seattle Seahawks fire Jim Mora:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4808557 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4808557)
Okay, for shits and giggles, my complete playoff pics:
Wild Card:
Patriots over Ravens. Probably the toughest call, but I'm not betting against New England.
Bengals over Jets. No way I'm betting with Sanchez.
Green Bay over Arizona.
Eagles over Cowboys. No way this'll be the Cowboys first playoff win in over a decade.
Next Round (and gee I hope I get the matchups right):
Indianapolis over Cincinnati.
New England over San Diego.
New Orleans over Philadelphia
Minnesota over Green Bay (damn that'd be an interesting game)
Conference Round:
Indianapolis over New England
Minnesota over New Orleans (hell, I dunno)
Superbowl:
Indianapolis over Minnesota
Quote from: citizen k on January 08, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
Off topic, but ...
Seattle Seahawks fire Jim Mora:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4808557 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4808557)
? wow. didn't see that one coming even with the shitty year, but i guess that is what happens when there is regime change.
Heard they want to hire Pete Carrol. :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2010, 06:48:38 PM
Heard they want to hire Pete Carrol. :huh:
Better him than another shitty Bellicheat disciple.
Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2010, 06:48:38 PM
Heard they want to hire Pete Carrol. :huh:
Heh guess he knows the shit is gonna hit the fan with still dealing with Bush errors and now McKnight's?
Quote from: Vince on January 08, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
If I Fed-Ex him a Utica tomato pie and some Chicken Riggies will that change his mind?
:mmm: Throw in some Saranac beer and a few Hemstraught's half moons while you're at it. Even he couldn't resist Utica's finest culinary delights.
I would like to try chicken riggies (I keep forgetting to make it myself), but I've hate plenty of tomato pie, which is popular in Philly also.
now spiess, what was that about knowing where to get scrapple? :w00t:
Quote from: Vince on January 08, 2010, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 08, 2010, 04:48:15 PM
They got injured enough as it was. Thankfully, checking out the injury report, all active/injured players have practiced this week & all but one are listed as Probable.
So hopefully the Bungles are healthy enough to put up a strong fight to prevent the 'Super Bowl favorites' from advancing tomorrow.
:lol:
I wish...
You wish, but your team's doughy, teeth-whitened coach believes it :P
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/rex-ryan-jets-should-be-favored-to-win-the-super-bowl/?related=1
Just some pre-game fun
Pats
Bengals
Cards
Iggles
Ravens, Jets, Packers, Cowboys.
Pats, Jets, Zona, Squiggles.
Meanwhile, the hate continues...
QuoteModell doesn't make Hall of Fame list of 17 finalists
Art Modell, the former majority owner of the Ravens, didn't make the cut as the Hall of Fame committee announced its 17 finalists. Shannon Sharpe, who played tight end for the Ravens in 2000 and 2001, was named a finalist for the second straight season.
The selection committee will announce the inductees on Feb. 6, the day before the Super Bowl.
Modell has been a semifinalist for six of the past seven years. His candidacy has been a hot button issue with voters because of his unpopular relocation of the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore in February 1996.
Modell was last a finalist for the Hall of Fame in 2001. Since then, he was a semifinalist in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2010.
The Ravens' majority owner from 1996 to 2004, Modell sold the team to Steve Bisciotti. He is now a minority owner of the Ravens.
Besides Sharpe, the other 16 finalists are: wide receiver-returner Tim Brown, receiver Cris Carter; coach Don Coryell; running back Roger Craig; center Dermontti Dawson; defensive end Richard Dent; guard Russ Grimm; defensive end-linebacker Charles Haley; linebacker Rickey Jackson; defensive tackle Cortez Kennedy; defensive tackle John Randle; receiver Andre Reed; wide receiver Jerry Rice; running back Emmitt Smith; cornerback-coach Dick LeBeau and running back Floyd Little.
1/9 4:30 ET At Cincinnati -2.5 NY Jets
1/9 8:00 ET At Dallas -3.5 Philadelphia
1/10 1:00 ET At New England -3.5 Baltimore
1/10 4:40 ET At Arizona PK Green Bay
Interesting.
5 of those finalists played at least a season with Niners :wub:
Smith, Rice, and I think Brown should all be shoo-ins. Thoughts?
Smith and Rice for sure. Some really good players amongst the rest. Dent, Randle and Kennedy had stretches where each were dominant. I mean Kennedy won Defensive MVP on a 2-14 Seahawks team
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 08, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Smith, Rice, and I think Brown should all be shoo-ins. Thoughts?
Emitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Don Coryell and Roger Craig are locks.
Ravens, Jets, Packers and Eagles.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 08, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Smith, Rice, and I think Brown should all be shoo-ins. Thoughts?
Emitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Don Coryell and Roger Craig are locks.
I am not sure about Craig, I think Brown is more sure thing .
I'd hope Craig is a lock, I mean he's still to my knowledge the only player to rush and receive for 1,000 yds* in same season, but afraid his career overall was too brief.
Nope see Faulk did it in 1999 with Rams.
Quote from: katmai on January 08, 2010, 11:57:42 PM
I'd hope Craig is a lock, I mean he's still to my knowledge the only player to rush and receive for 1,000 yds* in same season, but afraid his career overall was too brief.
Nope see Faulk did it in 1999 with Rams.
Yeah, Faulk did it. They were talking about it nonstop for a while on the NFL Network when it looked like Rice might have a shot at it.
Quote from: sbr on January 08, 2010, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 08, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Smith, Rice, and I think Brown should all be shoo-ins. Thoughts?
Emitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Don Coryell and Roger Craig are locks.
I am not sure about Craig, I think Brown is more sure thing .
Tim Brown had longevity, but Craig has was the first with the +1,000/1,000 record, and has a couple Super Bowl rings.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
Meanwhile, the hate continues...
QuoteModell doesn't make Hall of Fame list of 17 finalists
Art Modell, the former majority owner of the Ravens, didn't make the cut as the Hall of Fame committee announced its 17 finalists. Shannon Sharpe, who played tight end for the Ravens in 2000 and 2001, was named a finalist for the second straight season.
:nelson:
What has he done, other than being a dick?
Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
Meanwhile, the hate continues...
QuoteModell doesn't make Hall of Fame list of 17 finalists
Art Modell, the former majority owner of the Ravens, didn't make the cut as the Hall of Fame committee announced its 17 finalists. Shannon Sharpe, who played tight end for the Ravens in 2000 and 2001, was named a finalist for the second straight season.
:nelson:
What has he done, other than being a dick?
Gee, he only revolutionized the TV package and revenue sharing model for the league, establishing it as the premier professional sports league in the world today.
But, you can go fuck yourself, and suck Mike Brown's cheesy dick while you watch the Jets end another Bengals pipe dream season today.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2010, 09:09:54 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 08, 2010, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 08, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Smith, Rice, and I think Brown should all be shoo-ins. Thoughts?
Emitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Don Coryell and Roger Craig are locks.
I am not sure about Craig, I think Brown is more sure thing .
Tim Brown had longevity, but Craig has was the first with the +1,000/1,000 record, and has a couple Super Bowl rings.
I have looked at Craig a little bit more and see that he has a pretty good case. His career numbers don't jump off the page at me: 8100 rushing yards, 556 catches, 56 rushing TDs (Along with 17 receiving), but are pretty impressive once I thought about it for a minute. The HoF is more than number to me and that is where Craig's case improves. 3 Super Bowl championships; 4 Pro-Bowls and 4 All-Pros in 10 seasons; made the playoffs every year in the league; first to 1000/1000; first to score 3 TDs in a Super Bowl; only RB to lead the league in catches.
I still don't consider him a lock; his numbers won't blow any ignorant voters away and the amount of talent on those 49er team may hurt him as well.
For my picks:
Ravens
Cards
Bengals
Eagles
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2010, 12:43:20 PM
I still don't consider him a lock; his numbers won't blow any ignorant voters away and the amount of talent on those 49er team may hurt him as well.
That doesn't stop voters when it comes to the Steelheads of the 70s (John Stallworth?), or the Cowboys of the 90s. The Niners were the dynasty of the 80s, and Craig was integral to that.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
That doesn't stop voters when it comes to the Steelheads of the 70s (John Stallworth?)
Stallworth was bad but Lynne Swann was the moment the Hall of Fame jumped the shark.
What do you expect when your team has the title "World Famous" attached to it. You get more HoFers and more accolades than scrub teams.
Ravens
Bungles
Pack
Cowboys ( :yuk: )
Theismann and Gibbs in the broadcast booth
And Christ Wept. :(
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
Theismann and Gibbs in the broadcast booth
And Christ Wept. :(
What the fuck is with that?
Dick Vermeil is an old coach who is actually good in the booth.
LULZ, nice first possession Bungles. :rolleyes:
Yeah this is going to be a long game. :frusty:
WHO DEY!
Well, the Jets are in a bit of trouble now, aren't they?
Not so much now. :cool:
:blush:
Jim Leonhard is a god.
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
Theismann and Gibbs in the broadcast booth
And Christ Wept. :(
I want to punch Valmy in the nuts over the announcing.
Yeah, this announcing is terrible. I'm nearly falling asleep from the boredom of their words. They even sounded confused when the jets receiver got a touch down on the sidelines. No enthusiasm what so ever.
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
Well, the Jets are in a bit of trouble now, aren't they?
Naw, they are playing a team that didnt want to play because they were afraid of getting injured.
Is it just me, or are there an inordinately large number of missed field goals this year?
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2010, 06:33:05 PM
Is it just me, or are there an inordinately large number of missed field goals this year?
I've heard some of the announcers make the same observation, and it seems that way to me too. Nobody seems to have a clue why that is, though.
fuckit. Bungles are done. WOOOO, draft. Another useless fatass in the 1st round!
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 06:45:22 PM
fuckit. Bungles are done. WOOOO, draft. Another useless fatass in the 1st round!
Will they draft: an unneeded QB?
Is this the Caliga Taint?
Quote from: katmai on January 09, 2010, 06:51:21 PM
Is this the Caliga Taint?
The thought did cross my mind... :ph34r:
You're not supposed to celebrate the taint Cal. :rolleyes:
CalTim needs a punch to the nuts
Caliga is going to find his application to be a Kentucky Colonel blackballed.
Johnson finally caught one.
Quote from: katmai on January 09, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
Do IT!
To do that he would need to stop being a coward and hiding behind his anonymity. :cool:
WHO DEY
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
Caliga is going to find his application to be a Kentucky Colonel blackballed.
I am typing the letter.
And sometimes it's a bad idea to overblitz.
Benson just broke a 47 yd TD. This aint over.
And here comes the choke. :(
Comcast has lost the station here. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
And here comes the choke. :(
Your negativity can't outdo my negativity. :mad:
Is Sanchez really the hero of this game? I mean, I guess he hasn't lost them the game, and that's a plus.
If New York wins, it's offensive line play (and Jim Leonhard) that won it for them.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
And here comes the choke. :(
Your negativity can't outdo my negativity. :mad:
I have 23 years of Jets chokes, blown draft choices and a Dan Marino fake spike fueling my negativity. :contract:
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
And here comes the choke. :(
Your negativity can't outdo my negativity. :mad:
I have 23 years of Jets chokes, blown draft choices and a Dan Marino fake spike fueling my negativity. :contract:
I have 20 years of Akili Smith, David Klingler and Ki-Jana Carter.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
Ki-Jana Carter.
I don't believe that such a person actually existed. That sounds like a bullshit, made-up name.
Dude, stop trying to pass to Ochocinco! :face:
Another miss. What's with the kickers these days?
:nelson: Marvin Lewis looks like he's gonna cry.
Clearly the fault lies with CalTim and his taint. Therefore, I will NEVER recommend him for Kentucky Colonel.
So sayeth me, Col. Ed.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
I have 20 years of Akili Smith, David Klingler and Ki-Jana Carter.
Poor Ki-Jana Carter. His knee explodes in his first preseason game, and he gets listed with guys like Akili Smith and David Klinger after never being the same again.
Wow...now that I think about it, it's been a long time now since even Akili Smith was drafted.
Nice kicker you have there Cincinnati. EVEN KRIS BROWN WOULD HAVE MADE THAT (maybe)
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 09, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
I have 20 years of Akili Smith, David Klingler and Ki-Jana Carter.
Poor Ki-Jana Carter. His knee explodes in his first preseason game, and he gets listed with guys like Akili Smith and David Klinger after never being the same again.
I accept no excuses. He should have rubbed some dirt on it and gotten back out there.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:29:47 PM
Clearly the fault lies with CalTim and his taint. Therefore, I will NEVER recommend him for Kentucky Colonel.
I have a: backup plan. :shifty:
I like rooting for the Bengals. Low pressure. Plus, I don't need to pay attention for as many months. I am: lifelong fan. :showoff:
I think the Jets actually match up alright against San Diego.
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 07:26:51 PM
:nelson: Marvin Lewis looks like he's gonna cry.
Be a sport and root for the Pats tomorrow. :D
The Jets actually won. :w00t:
Grats Jets. And someone needs to pick up a phone and get Morten Andersen back in this game, he'd be sure within 40!
:nelson: You wanted the Jets, you got them, Cincy.
@ Vince: Yeah, I probably will. :cool:
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:38:14 PM
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 07:26:51 PM
:nelson: Marvin Lewis looks like he's gonna cry.
Be a sport and root for the Pats tomorrow. :D
Yeah, if the Jets go farther in the playoffs than the Patriots, that's like winning the Superbowl for you guys, isn't it?
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2010, 07:29:47 PM
Clearly the fault lies with CalTim and his taint. Therefore, I will NEVER recommend him for Kentucky Colonel.
I have a: backup plan. :shifty:
We'll see. :menace:
The pressure is on the Ravens now. The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
Quote from: Strix on January 09, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
:huh:
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 08:12:35 PM
Quote from: Strix on January 09, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
:huh:
he's counting last year, using DorseyMath(tm).
Quote from: Strix on January 09, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
The pressure is on the Ravens now. The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
You realize there's no justifying that statement as it's now 2010 and a different NFL Season, right? If you'd said the past 365 days, you might be correct, but this year is in no way correct. Typical Steelers fan. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 09, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: Strix on January 09, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
The pressure is on the Ravens now. The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
You realize there's no justifying that statement as it's now 2010 and a different NFL Season, right? If you'd said the past 365 days, you might be correct, but this year is in no way correct. Typical Steelers fan. :rolleyes:
Steeler fans are down there with Patriotards and people who say 'How 'bout 'dem Cowboys?'
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 09, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: Strix on January 09, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
The pressure is on the Ravens now. The Steelers have won more playoff games this year than the Bengals despite finishing 3rd in the Division. :showoff:
You realize there's no justifying that statement as it's now 2010 and a different NFL Season, right? If you'd said the past 365 days, you might be correct, but this year is in no way correct. Typical Steelers fan. :rolleyes:
That was a pretty bad fail attempt.
Don't teams usually go for a FG when they're at the 35yd line? Or does Cowboys suffer from the Kickfail too?
Quote from: Liep on January 09, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
Don't teams usually go for a FG when they're at the 35yd line? Or does Cowboys suffer from the Kickfail too?
That's well over 50 yards, and their kicker isn't very good. Even if you had a good kicker, 53-54 yards is a long kick.
Vick threw a good pass right through CdM's heart.
Wow - nice TD play with Vick throwing.
And an INT!
Nice hit on the runback, nice TD pass, nice INT. :)
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2010, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: Vince on January 09, 2010, 07:38:14 PM
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 07:26:51 PM
:nelson: Marvin Lewis looks like he's gonna cry.
Be a sport and root for the Pats tomorrow. :D
Yeah, if the Jets go farther in the playoffs than the Patriots, that's like winning the Superbowl for you guys, isn't it?
:sleep:
The Jets SB was in week 2. 16-9 Baby!
Well, it looks like the Eagles have melted down.
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
Well, it looks like the Eagles have melted down.
Which is a shame. I would have preferred the Saints play the Eagles again than the Cowboys.
The Eagles are imploding.
:(
Well, it turns out that Rush Limbaugh was right about McNabb.
Quote from: Caliga on January 09, 2010, 09:42:05 PM
:(
Caliga taint is strong, tough day for Pats tomorrow then.
Woo, Jets win!
Well on the way to be 2-0.
Caligalmy (Valmiga?) proves reverse-prescient. The Jimmy the Turk of sports predictions.
The Jets-Bengals score was closer than the Cowboys-DogKillers, but man, those were two asspoundings.
When asked about the rumors of Tom Brady's various ailments:
"I think that's the biggest setup ever."--Ray Lewis, MLB
Maybe shoulda benched McNabb for Vick.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 10, 2010, 11:25:51 AM
Maybe shoulda benched McNabb for Vick.
Yeah, then at least they would've lost spectacularly.
Quote from: Liep on January 10, 2010, 11:50:23 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 10, 2010, 11:25:51 AM
Maybe shoulda benched McNabb for Vick.
Yeah, then at least they would've lost spectacularly.
They
did lose spectacularily. Both of yesterday's games weren't as close as they looked.
I'm only making one prognostication for the Ravens-Pats game:
3 Roughing the Passer calls against the Ravens.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
3 Roughing the Passer calls against the Ravens.
An edit: I forgot to add "or more".
Fuck. Phil 'Ravens-hater' Simms is doing the colour commentary.
Nice run!
Started this game off with a bang!
YOU LIKE APPLES HOW BOUT DEM APPLES
FUCK YOU BRADY
FUCK YOU BELICHEAT
FUCK YOU ROGER GOODELL AND YOUR UMPS
Fuck the Patriots.
Now that's a good way to start a game.
Fuck the Patriots!
Today is a strange day for I'm rooting for the Ravens.
Also, I expect that Seedy will probably be drunk in a couple minutes.
I suspect the Refs will have to work extra hard to turn this around for the Pats.
So far so good though. I hope the Ravens bury them further.
My God the New England Timmy fans are awful, booing their team after 5 minutes? Sure those 5 minutes were pathetic, but geez...yet another sign of NE class.
Christ, I hate the Patriots too, but this is embarassing.
Shit - what's with all the one-sided games this weekend.
Naw, this is them playing up to their potential.
:menace:
ZOMG another turnover!
Fun, fun game to watch.
This is exactly the playoff game I wanted to see.
Alright now, don't let him comeback.
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 10, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
Alright now, don't let him comeback.
You're not suggesting Pats are giving them a lead so that the victory will be more glorious? :tinfoil:
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 10, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
Alright now, don't let him comeback.
I hope they do come back - I want to see a game.
Cal was rooting for the Pats, right?
Quote from: Barrister on January 10, 2010, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 10, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
Alright now, don't let him comeback.
I hope they do come back - I want to see a game.
You'll have to wait until tonight. I want justice.
Quote from: PDH on January 10, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
Cal was rooting for the Pats, right?
The Taint Factor is strong in that one. :hmm:
Why no challenge :frusty: :frusty:
Quote from: JacobL on January 10, 2010, 01:54:27 PM
Why no challenge :frusty: :frusty:
I guess Harbaugh is overreacting to throwing away his challenges.
Son of a monkey. :mad:
Quote from: PDH on January 10, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
Cal was rooting for the Pats, right?
I don't know about Cal, but at this rate I'll be zero for three in my picks this weekend.
Green Bay should be worried.
Phil Simms Pats cocksucking is getting annoying.
Oh that was a beautiful hit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
I'm only making one prognostication for the Ravens-Pats game:
3 Roughing the Passer calls against the Ravens.
Not a lot of time left for these calls now, although it would be nice to see Brady get roughed a bit.
Nice sneak face-mask on rice there, and even nicer of the cocksucker to rub it in while hes on the ground.
Terrible call on the two-point conversion by the refs, but challenging it won't make any difference, so play on.
And the missing continues.
So, I think it's time to start celebrating. Everyone who believes in justice, begin partying now.
It's somehow fitting that CDM's team is kicking out Tim's team.
That's how you finish.
Watching this game brought great joy to my life.
Where is Tim anyways?
Quote from: Vince on January 10, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Watching this game brought great joy to my life.
Where is Tim anyways?
weeping into his beer in some expat bar in Korea no doubt.
Asleep.
Woo! 3-0! Even got the over/under.
Quote from: Vince on January 10, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Watching this game brought great joy to my life.
Where is Tim anyways?
QFT
Quote from: Vince on January 10, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Watching this game brought great joy to my life.
Where is Tim anyways?
He always disappears when the Patriots lose in the playoffs.
What a beautiful day. I got to watch this entertaining game at work, no disturbances besides my own cheering. Is there a God after all?
Quote from: Barrister on January 10, 2010, 02:01:47 PM
I don't know about Cal, but at this rate I'll be zero for three in my picks this weekend.
Green Bay should be worried.
From the frozen north comes the most powerful taint of the NFL Playoff Season... BeebTaint! He picks teams... to die. :lol: Nice pick by Rodgers.
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
So, I think it's time to start celebrating. Everyone who believes in justice, begin partying now.
Past grievances have been avenged. Some of them.
A beautiful playoff game. My pants are a purple factory of spooge.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 10, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 10, 2010, 02:01:47 PM
I don't know about Cal, but at this rate I'll be zero for three in my picks this weekend.
Green Bay should be worried.
From the frozen north comes the most powerful taint of the NFL Playoff Season... BeebTaint! He picks teams... to die. :lol: Nice pick by Rodgers.
BB is the Valmy of Football
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Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
So, I think it's time to start celebrating. Everyone who believes in justice, begin partying now.
Past grievances have been avenged. Some of them.
A beautiful playoff game. My pants are a purple factory of spooge.
Now if they can win the Battle of Baltimores, you can die happy.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
So, I think it's time to start celebrating. Everyone who believes in justice, begin partying now.
Past grievances have been avenged. Some of them.
A beautiful playoff game. My pants are a purple factory of spooge.
Now if they can win the Battle of Baltimores, you can die happy.
If they beat the Colts, they might as well get fitted for their Superbowl rings right after the game.
Assuming that Green Bay continues this self-destruction, I'll have gone 2-0 in the AFC and 0-2 in the NFC.
Beebwagoner has BeebTainted my team. :mad: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra:
:weep:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
:weep:
I recommend that you elaborate on your feelings of hopelessness and despair.
Nice onside kick. Will we finally get an exciting game this weekend?
Quote from: Liep on January 10, 2010, 06:52:06 PM
Nice onside kick. Will we finally get an exciting game this weekend?
Heh, maybe if the Packers defense decides they wanna play today.
The winner of this game gets the Vikes?
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
:weep:
I recommend that you elaborate on your feelings of hopelessness and despair.
Yes, by all means Timmay, please enlighten us on what it feels like to be a Cheatriots fan today.
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
The winner of this game gets the Vikes?
No. The Cowboys get the Vikings.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 10, 2010, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
The winner of this game gets the Vikes?
No. The Cowboys get the Vikings.
Oh right they were #3 seed, so Nawlins gets the lower seed.
Well good as i was afraid it was gonna be a Dallas-Minnesota Championship game the way these two are playing D.
Scored too quickly.
And I thought Rackers was one of the good guys. OVERTIME!
Son of a bitch. :mad:
BB is 4 for 4
Aw, damn it
3-1.
i though for sure when the packers won the coin toss they ahd the game. over time in football is messed up. you should need 6 points to win.
Well, well, well...Arizona's defense showed up when it had to.
Fucking Beeb. Seriously.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 10, 2010, 06:31:16 PM
Beebwagoner has BeebTainted my team. :mad: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra:
The *last* thing I have done is bandwagon for the Green Bay Packers. :ultra:
And yes, I went zero for four. :blush:
The good news is that makes my pics for the divisional round meaningless, so I can try again.
Quote"They [Ravens] came in and wanted it more than us, and it showed. We got beat up and it don't feel good. We didn't come to play. We didn't play like it was a playoff game. For them to come in here and do what they did, they could basically have been playing out there with a JV football team and they probably would have given a better effort than we did. You saw one team come in here and play it like it was a playoff game and then you seen another club that just went out there going through the motions.''
--Vince Wilfork
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
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:weep:
I recommend that you elaborate on your feelings of hopelessness and despair.
Yes, by all means Timmay, please enlighten us on what it feels like to be a Cheatriots fan today.
I'm still waiting, you chemo Brady cocklicker. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR PAIN
QuotePatriots coach Bill Belichick used as few words as possible in his postgame press conference, and pretty much answered every question with a short, direct, and obvious answer.
Examples:
What did you see happen on the long run (by Ray Rice, 83 yards for a touchdown on the first play from scrimmage) at the beginning of the game?
Belichick: "We obviously just didn't do a good job."
Were you not prepared for the level of pressure they were putting on Tom Brady at the opening snap?
Belichick: "I don't think they really did anything different."
How much were your options limited in the receiving game?
Belichick: "We played with what we had. I thought Julian (Edelman), Sam (Aiken), Randy (Moss), they made plays for us before."
On Brady's interceptions?
Belichick: "Look, we made too many mistakes in the game to win and that's obvious."
Can you talk about Tom Brady? Was he completely healthy?
Belichick: "We just didn't do well as a team in any area."
Have you ever been more disappointed?
Belichick: "Any time you lose, it's disappointing."
Were there any indications, practice-wise, that this didn't feel like you were ready?
Belichick: "No, we obviously didn't play well."
Where do you guys go from here?
Belichick: "Well, our season is over."
What happened to the pass protection?
Belichick: "Sometimes, they got pressure on us."
NFL Network will be rebroadcasting the Boston Massacre on Wednesday night, 8:00 EST.
I'mma jus' sayin'.
So how do they matchup against the Real team from Baltimore?
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
So how do they matchup against the Real team from Baltimore?
Reported
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 09:03:55 PM
NFL Network will be rebroadcasting the Boston Massacre on Wednesday night, 8:00 EST.
I'mma jus' sayin'.
*Sets reminder on his TV*
They rebroadcasted their win against the Ravens in their 'perfect' season, so that's justice.
Do you hear me, Tim? Justice.
Oh and waiting for the cries of injustice since the Ravens have to play in 6 days not 7.
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 09:24:01 PM
Oh and waiting for the cries of injustice since the Ravens have to play in 6 days not 7.
lulz
That's alright. The Ravens do better when nobody believes in them. I think Ditka was the only national media member who picked them.
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 09:24:01 PMOh and waiting for the cries of injustice since the Ravens have to play in 6 days not 7.
Stupid NFL. The Baltimore-hate is palpable.
Well, it's not like the Colts' run defense is any better than New England's; they just have to keep Manning off the field, and if they run like they did today, good things may happen.
I'm more interested in seeing how the Colts offense performs; the Ravens are 6-2 since that 17-16 loss 8 games ago to Indy, and that must be avenged. They'll go after Manning again like they did in that game, and it'll be interesting to see what Manning's timing will look like, what with the Colts having as many weeks off as a BCS bowl team.
It should be fun.
Interesting stat of the day: Ed Reed has 6 INTs in 6 career post-season games.
2nd most interesting stat of the day: Ray Lewis recorded his 1st post-season sack of his career.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
2nd most interesting stat of the day: Ray Lewis recorded his 1st post-season sack of his career.
That is surprising.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
:weep:
I recommend that you elaborate on your feelings of hopelessness and despair.
Yes, by all means Timmay, please enlighten us on what it feels like to be a Cheatriots fan today.
I'm still waiting, you chemo Brady cocklicker. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR PAIN
I'm sad, but because I wasn't able to watch the game the pain just isn't as visceral as it would be back home. We'll get 'em next year.
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 10:34:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
2nd most interesting stat of the day: Ray Lewis recorded his 1st post-season sack of his career.
That is surprising.
I can't remember the last time I saw him get a sack, period. Does he blitz much on passing downs? :unsure:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2010, 11:08:16 PM
We'll get 'em next year.
LOLZ ORLY
QuoteFans may have witnessed the end of dynasty of the decade
By Vic Carucci | NFL.com
Senior Columnist
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- This had the feeling of something more pronounced than the loss of a single playoff game. After a while, your senses told you that you weren't watching football so much as attending a funeral.
You knew, sooner or later, that this day was going to come. Through various parts of the past four months, the New England Patriots weren't functioning with the consistent excellence that once defined them. They seemed to be something that they hadn't been in a very long time.
Suddenly, the sort of words that accurately described what the Patriots had become were horrendous ... awful ... non-competitive.
Three Super Bowl victories in four years? Four Super Bowl appearances in seven seasons? 16-0? Twenty-two consecutive regular-season wins? One of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history? One of the smartest coaches to ever prowl a sideline?
Clearly, none of that mattered to a significant portion of the 68,756 brave souls who occupied seats for Sunday's wild-card game at Gillette Stadium. Before the end of the first quarter, they would serenade the quarterback, the coach, and everyone else who would have a role in a 33-14 loss to the Baltimore Ravens with multiple choruses of boos.
After greeting the Ravens' 14-0 lead in the game's first 4:31 with mostly stunned silence, the crowd began letting the home team feel its wrath. The tipping point was Brady's first interception of the day, which set up Baltimore's third touchdown.
After Brady's second interception, which set up a field goal to give the Ravens a 24-0 advantage with 1:19 remaining in the first quarter, the booing became louder. Then, after a pathetic Brady screen pass to Kevin Faulk lost five yards on second-and-15 as the quarter came to a close, the crowd made its disgust known in no uncertain terms.
"I'd have been booing us, too," Brady said.
But this wasn't the sort of thing that could be dismissed with a self-deprecating one-liner. The booing hurt, and other players, such as Faulk and nose tackle Vince Wilfork, acknowledged as much. Wilfork said he felt as if he were playing on the road.
Still, the fans had it right. There was a palpable sense that the day wasn't going to get any better for the Patriots, and that feeling didn't just exist in the stands or the press box.
"Never had a chance from the first play to the last play," Wilfork said. "They came in and they wanted it more than us. What can you do about it?"
If you're the Patriots that have been the NFL's gold standard of the decade, you're not supposed to surrender so quickly or easily. You're supposed to be able to come roaring back. You're supposed to find a spark -- something, anything.
You're supposed to be too good to look this bad.
But these aren't the gold-standard Patriots anymore. Not after missing the playoffs in 2008 and going one-and-done a year later. When this team comes up against an elite opponent such as the New Orleans Saints, it doesn't have any answers. Now, when it enters the playoffs as a third seed up against the fifth seed -- a team to which it has never lost and in a stadium where it always wins in the postseason -- it has even fewer answers.
The Patriots weren't just careless with the ball Sunday; they showed no ability to stop the run. They couldn't cover kicks. They couldn't make field goals.
"They outcoached us, they outplayed us, they did everything better than we did," Bill Belichick said.
He said it the way he says a lot of things: Matter-of-factly. Belichick said he wasn't shocked by the way the game began or ended, leading to the assumption (because he never said so specifically) that he saw this coming just as the rest of us did.
When the Patriots struggled early in the year, it was widely dismissed as resulting from Brady shaking off the cobwebs of missing most of the '08 season because of a serious knee injury and from the aftermath of trading defensive end Richard Seymour to Oakland right before the first game of 2009. When they showed improvement, the prevailing theory was that Brady was regaining his dominant form of 2007 and he was seen as a legitimate candidate for NFL MVP, as well as Comeback Player of the Year (which he would win).
But when they demonstrated an inability to win on the road and Brady started to lose his sharpness, reports surfaced about his playing with broken ribs and a damaged index finger on his throwing hand.
Belichick shot down the reports. Brady played coy with the media, hinting there might be some truth there, but not wanting to sound as if he were making any excuses. That was his stance after the wild-card game, but if Brady ever could have used an explanation for a very un-Brady like day, this was the time.
Brady also refused to play the "Wes Welker card." Naturally, the Patriots offense missed the NFL's leader in receptions and their runaway MVP for 2009. Had he not suffered a season-ending knee injury a week ago, perhaps he would have provided the spark or two that the Patriots were missing.
But given how poorly they played in other areas, it didn't seem likely.
A loss like this makes one wonder exactly where the Patriots are headed. Wilfork, their best defensive player, is a free agent. Could he follow Seymour out the door?
What about Belichick? There have been rumblings that he and Pats owner Robert Kraft haven't exactly been on the greatest of terms since the whole "Spygate" mess of '07. There was even some speculation that Belichick was prepared to leave the Patriots at the end of that season and the only reason he chose to stick around was the fact the team fell short of perfection by losing to the New York Giants in the Super Bowl.
If fan interest is any gauge, there could be some troubled times ahead for the Patriots. They struggled to sell tickets for a wild-card game, as many fans generally saw no point in investing in what ultimately would be a lost cause, with a Patriots' victory sending them to San Diego in the divisional round. There were plenty of empty seats, a rarity for any game, let alone a playoff contest, at Gillette Stadium.
After Willis McGahee ran for a touchdown to make it 33-14 with 10:32 left, a mass exodus began. If this was, indeed, the end of a dynasty, there was nothing sentimental about its departure. This crowd showed no desire to offer any special thanks for all of the great achievements of the past.
When someone asked Brady to identify the Patriots' biggest problem this season, he said, "I don't think there is one sweeping statement. We had a lot of problems over the course of the year. Consistency in practice, consistency in games -- those were all something we were looking for, something we talked about and (were) a point of emphasis for our coach. Overcoming adversities and overcoming injuries or calls or bad bounces, I mean, that's just the way football is. I'd say, at times we did it, and at other times, we didn't."
Not exactly the description of a dynasty.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
2nd most interesting stat of the day: Ray Lewis recorded his 1st post-season sack of his career.
That is surprising.
I can't remember the last time I saw him get a sack, period. Does he blitz much on passing downs? :unsure:
Not really, he drops back into coverage more often than not on passing downs, but he'll run the occasional dog blitz when they need the pressure up the middle.
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 09:21:59 PM
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So how do they matchup against the Real team from Baltimore?
Reported
Fine, but what is the answer?
I'm pulling for the Ravens, despite Seedy's sickening giddiness.
Quote from: derspiess on January 10, 2010, 11:21:26 PM
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
So how do they matchup against the Real team from Baltimore?
Reported
Fine, but what is the answer?
I'm pulling for the Ravens, despite Seedy's sickening giddiness.
Oh i said it before this weekend, i'm rooting for Ravens and Bolts, i just love to piss off Seedy.
Quote from: derspiess on January 10, 2010, 11:21:26 PM
I'm pulling for the Ravens, despite Seedy's sickening giddiness.
Sickening, how? More of a sadistic giddiness, like Agent Toht in
Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or more of a psycho-maniacal giddiness, like Heath Ledger's Joker?
Honestly: how well will the Colts perform next week with the first team offense and defense getting practically a month off? Any guesses?
Your sickeningly giddy quote for Monday:
"I know what's next. No. 18 is coming. I know it, and he knows we are coming."
--Ed Reed, S, University of Miami
What a crazy ending to a crazy game. :lol:
I think the Cards got screwed by having only 6 days rest before they play again but I like their chances against the Saints. Even if they do lose I think this win legitimizes their last two years. They may play in a shitty division, but they are a very good team. It definitely strengthens Warner's HoF credentials too; name a better play-off QB in the last decade.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
Honestly: how well will the Colts perform next week with the first team offense and defense getting practically a month off? Any guesses?
Answer: Very well.
Quote from: sbr on January 11, 2010, 12:17:55 AM
What a crazy ending to a crazy game. :lol:
I think the Cards got screwed by having only 6 days rest before they play again but I like their chances against the Saints. Even if they do lose I think this win legitimizes their last two years. They may play in a shitty division, but they are a very good team. It definitely strengthens Warner's HoF credentials too; name a better play-off QB in the last decade.
Probably Brady. :x :hide:
As long as Kraft owns the team, the Pats will be competitive.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 11, 2010, 01:30:16 AM
As long as Kraft owns the team, the Pats will be competitive.
Why, do they own the refs to? lololololol
:blush:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 11, 2010, 01:30:16 AM
As long as Kraft owns the team, the Pats will be competitive.
A good owner is a prerequisite for a good team, but a good owner does not make a good team. I have a feeling we might all feel differently about Daniel Snyder if his GM had lucked into Tom Brady in the 6th round of a draft.
IMO, the most important pieces to a successful team
QB
Head Coach
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Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 11, 2010, 02:42:20 AM
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All you need is Berry Sanders.
I fell asleep at the end of the 3rd quarter of the Packers-Cardinals game. Too bad, altough at least I got 5 hours of sleep before coming to work
Sbr, you ignorant slut.
It really does start with ownerships, then
GM and HC.
For every Daniel Snyder and to lesser extent Jerry Jones (who think they know more about football so meddle too much) you have the Rooneys in Pittsburgh, Eddie D in San Francisco, Kraft in New England and others like Ralph Wilson in Buffalo who are smart enough to bring in qualified GM's and coaches.
And in turn they are able to sniff out the talent, Tom Brady might be a heck of a QB, but he's only as good as his complementary cast.
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All you need is Berry Sanders.
And how many Super Bowl rings does Barry have? Exactly. Owner is negligible unless they're a bad owner. Head coach is negligible unless they're a bad one as well. Moderately ok ones have as much of a chance as good ones I'd say in either case. It all rests on the lines.
BUT THE HIGHLIGHT REELS!!111 :D
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 11, 2010, 03:19:27 AM
And how many Super Bowl rings does Barry have? Exactly.
And how many Super Bowl rings does Dan Marino have? EXACTLY.
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 12:32:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
Honestly: how well will the Colts perform next week with the first team offense and defense getting practically a month off? Any guesses?
Answer: Very well.
Which team has the 24th ranked run defense in the NFL, and is the only 4-3 defense left in the playoffs? Which team was dead last in rushing in 2009?
And, while Payton is still Payton, the Colts needed 7 4th quarter come-from-behinds to win games this year.
There is no fear.
Except for when Monkeybutt is synergizing for his little gay assmuffin posterboy, Dallas Clark.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 11, 2010, 03:22:01 AM
BUT THE HIGHLIGHT REELS!!111 :D
I still make fun of a few Jets fans who told me four years ago drafting Leinhart was a no miss pick for NY and he'd shatter records. ;)
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 11, 2010, 02:42:20 AM
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Yeah, but the owner, GM and head coach set the lines. Also, the offensive line is slightly more important than the defensive line, due to the fact that the d-line has linebackers to help them out, especially in the 3-4.
This is great, we almost get the chance for a Jets vs Vikings Conference championship.
I mean Super Bowl, cause you know, that makes sense.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 11, 2010, 01:30:16 AM
As long as Kraft owns the team, the Pats will be competitive.
Without Pioli the Pats are screwed.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2010, 11:11:07 PM
If fan interest is any gauge, there could be some troubled times ahead for the Patriots. They struggled to sell tickets for a wild-card game, as many fans generally saw no point in investing in what ultimately would be a lost cause, with a Patriots' victory sending them to San Diego in the divisional round. There were plenty of empty seats, a rarity for any game, let alone a playoff contest, at Gillette Stadium.
After Willis McGahee ran for a touchdown to make it 33-14 with 10:32 left, a mass exodus began. If this was, indeed, the end of a dynasty, there was nothing sentimental about its departure. This crowd showed no desire to offer any special thanks for all of the great achievements of the past.
Typical Boston sportsfans.
"Oh, our team sucks? That's alright. I was never really a fan of them anyways. Go Colts!"
Reading Seedy and Neil's posts provides a lot of useful insight into the jihadist mind.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2010, 06:40:21 AM
Which team has the 24th ranked run defense in the NFL, and is the only 4-3 defense left in the playoffs? Which team was dead last in rushing in 2009?
And, while Payton is still Payton, the Colts needed 7 4th quarter come-from-behinds to win games this year.
There is no fear.
Except for when Monkeybutt is synergizing for his little gay assmuffin posterboy, Dallas Clark.
Dallas Clark is awesome.
http://ebaumnation.com/2009/11/24/dallas-clark-is-awesome
Ahem.
In other news, I'm looking into seeing if I can snag some tickets at Lucas oil stadium. I think the Ravens vs Colts would be an awesome game to watch.
Quote from: katmai on January 11, 2010, 03:06:28 AM
Sbr, you ignorant slut.
It really does start with ownerships, then
GM and HC.
For every Daniel Snyder and to lesser extent Jerry Jones (who think they know more about football so meddle too much) you have the Rooneys in Pittsburgh, Eddie D in San Francisco, Kraft in New England and others like Ralph Wilson in Buffalo who are smart enough to bring in qualified GM's and coaches.
And in turn they are able to sniff out the talent, Tom Brady might be a heck of a QB, but he's only as good as his complementary cast.
I am late for work so I will have to make this quick, but you mentioned the Rooneys, who are the best owners in pro sports in my opinion. They have owned the team for ~77 years. They have won 6 Super Bowls during the 19 years Bradshaw or Roethlisberger played QB and none in the other 58 years.
If you try and put the Steelers' 2005 Superbowl on Roethlisberger, I'll have you killed. Also, nobody won any Superbowls for the first 33 of those 58 years.
Besides: Trent Dilfer.
By the way after my masterful prognostication last weekend, I'm going to beat the rush and make my picks for the divisional round.
Chargers over Jets
Colts over Ravens
Vikings over Cowboys
Saints over Cardinals
I believe history shows that the team with the bye has a significant edge in terms of winning percentage. If there was going to be an upset it wil be Saints / Cardinals, but I don't think there will be.
Chargers over Jets
Ravens over Colts
Cowgirls over Vikings
Saints over Cardinals
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 02:32:09 PM
By the way after my masterful prognostication last weekend, I'm going to beat the rush and make my picks for the divisional round.
Chargers over Jets
Colts over Ravens
Vikings over Cowboys
Saints over Cardinals
I believe history shows that the team with the bye has a significant edge in terms of winning percentage. If there was going to be an upset it wil be Saints / Cardinals, but I don't think there will be.
Ugh more BeebTaint, at least the Ravens win I guess.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 11, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 02:32:09 PM
By the way after my masterful prognostication last weekend, I'm going to beat the rush and make my picks for the divisional round.
Chargers over Jets
Colts over Ravens
Vikings over Cowboys
Saints over Cardinals
I believe history shows that the team with the bye has a significant edge in terms of winning percentage. If there was going to be an upset it wil be Saints / Cardinals, but I don't think there will be.
Ugh more BeebTaint, at least the Ravens win I guess.
:blurgh:
You guys are optimistic about the Saints, considering the Cardinals put up 51 yesterday.
Quote from: ulmont on January 11, 2010, 02:41:02 PM
You guys are optimistic about the Saints, considering the Cardinals put up 51 yesterday.
I am optimistic about the Saints because the Cardinals gave up 45.
Quote from: ulmont on January 11, 2010, 02:41:02 PM
You guys are optimistic about the Saints, considering the Cardinals put up 51 yesterday.
That's the thing about the wild card round. By the way it works, the team without the bye has won the week against a reasonably good team. The team with the bye on the otherhand didn't play at all, and has probably been coasting the last couple weeks. In this "what have you done for me lately" world that means a lot of people are picking the visitor.
The Saints have been dominant most of the year, with perhap's this year's best QB. The Cards often don't travel well either.
Chargers over Jets
Ravens over Colts
Vikings over Cowboys
Cardinals over Saints
The toughest call is the Cowboys. Good D the last few games but they were playing an over hyped Phillies team. Saints defence isnt good enough to stop the Cards and the offence cant put those kinds of numbers up.
Ravens dont have to worry about the run against the Colts and so they will just go after Manning. The Colt's pass rush wont have any effect against the Ravens because the Ravens aren't going to be passing.
The Jets had their time in the sun. Time to come crashing back to earth in a blow out.
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 02:46:41 PM
The Saints have been dominant most of the year, with perhap's this year's best QB. The Cards often don't travel well either.
The Saints have been lucky most of the year. A lot of their close games could easily have gone the other way. Plus they stunk it up in the last month of the season.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 11, 2010, 08:41:17 AM
In other news, I'm looking into seeing if I can snag some tickets at Lucas oil stadium. I think the Ravens vs Colts would be an awesome game to watch.
Apparently impossible to score free tickets for this one. :(
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 02:46:41 PM
The Saints have been dominant most of the year
Except, you know, the last 3 games in a row.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 11, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
The Saints have been lucky most of the year. A lot of their close games could easily have gone the other way. Plus they stunk it up in the last month of the season.
Yeah. On the other hand, they did kick the shit out of the Patriots, and came back from down 24-3 against Miami.
Quote from: ulmont on January 11, 2010, 02:55:41 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 11, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
The Saints have been lucky most of the year. A lot of their close games could easily have gone the other way. Plus they stunk it up in the last month of the season.
Yeah. On the other hand, they did kick the shit out of the Patriots, and came back from down 24-3 against Miami.
I am not saying they dont deserve to be in the playoffs. But they are far from the dominant team their record might lead someone to believe.
Quote from: ulmont on January 11, 2010, 02:55:41 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 11, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
The Saints have been lucky most of the year. A lot of their close games could easily have gone the other way. Plus they stunk it up in the last month of the season.
Yeah. On the other hand, they did kick the shit out of the Patriots, and came back from down 24-3 against Miami.
Defense wins Championships. The Saints haven't proven that they can play good defense.
Quote from: Strix on January 11, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
Defense wins Championships. The Saints haven't proven that they can play good defense.
They have, however, proven they play bad defense. But they will beat the Cards anyway.
Quote from: Valmy on January 11, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Strix on January 11, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
Defense wins Championships. The Saints haven't proven that they can play good defense.
They have, however, proven they play bad defense. But they will beat the Cards anyway.
Its official, Valmy and BB agree the Cards will lose. Time to bet the farm on the Cards. :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 11, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
Its official, Valmy and BB agree the Cards will lose. Time to bet the farm on the Cards. :D
While I am flattered mine only works on soccer. I did, however, think Green Bay would win so you might want to go ahead and call your bookie :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 11, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 11, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Strix on January 11, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
Defense wins Championships. The Saints haven't proven that they can play good defense.
They have, however, proven they play bad defense. But they will beat the Cards anyway.
Its official, Valmy and BB agree the Cards will lose. Time to bet the farm on the Cards. :D
We're gonna be rich!!! :w00t:
Chargers, Ravens, Saints, Cowboys.
Quote from: Strix on January 11, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
Defense wins Championships. The Saints haven't proven that they can play good defense.
The matchup looks pretty even, with a slight defense edge to the Cardinals. The Saints at one point this season had the most takeaways of any NFL team, and finished the season with 39 just behind Green Bay's 40.
...of course, you saw how well that worked out for GB.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 11, 2010, 03:30:46 PM
Chargers, Ravens, Saints, Cowboys.
I am intrigued by your picks and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Quote from: ulmont on January 11, 2010, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 11, 2010, 03:30:46 PM
Chargers, Ravens, Saints, Cowboys.
I am intrigued by your picks and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
:lol: Tuesday Morning Quarterback fueled logic more or less.
AFC - The Chargers are the better team, though I don't seem them making it to the big game due to the inevitable Norving influence of things, or at the least not winning it. The Ravens are coming off of a big win with no major injuries sustained. The Colts will come out cold after almost a month off for their top dogs. Even consumate professionals need time to get the motor going again after that long. With their defense finally clicking and their running game able to eat up clock I like the Ravens chances to keep Manning on the bench for as much time as possible and secure a win.
NFC - The Vikings are due for some more meltdown time as Chilly and The Ego continue to clash. If things start getting close, they'll collapse as a team and fragment I think. AD has been garbage for the past 2 months almost, and Favre refuses to admit he makes mistakes, but it's the fault of everyone else. The Cowboys are riding two dominant performances in a row, and their defense is finally showing signs it can stop people. Romo has been steady, and the power of their run game combined with their nice passing threats make for some nice offensive firepower. The Cards looked nice yesterday, but f their defense can't hold the Saints, I like the Saints in a shootout. The Saints have the better running game and with Boldin persona non gratis, the Cards have limited their offensive power. It should be a big shootout, but as usually happens, it'll probably end up a slugfest with a low score just to prove everyone wrong. Either way, I like the Saints running game and Will Smith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjcj9jlr-t8&feature=player_embedded
I actually think that the Jets match up well against the Chargers. If there's one thing that the Chargers have shown over the last couple of years, it's that if a sufficiently ferocious defence belts them in the mouth, they fold. The Chargers offence isn't so unstoppable that the Jets can't do it, and their D isn't so strong that they can sweep aside the Jets.
I think that both the top seeds in the AFC would rather have seen the Bengals and Patriots come to town.
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
I actually think that the Jets match up well against the Chargers. If there's one thing that the Chargers have shown over the last couple of years, it's that if a sufficiently ferocious defence belts them in the mouth, they fold.
Amen. And, I don't think the Bolts D can contain such a versatile running attack. If San-CHEZ has to throw, it's over. But it won't get that far.
QuoteI think that both the top seeds in the AFC would rather have seen the Bengals and Patriots come to town.
Yup. There are two pissed, nasty-ass, physical 5 and 6 seeds on their way instead.
My picks are: Jets, Cowboys, Cardinals.
LULZ
QuotePatriots clean out lockers after playoff loss
FOXBOROUGH, Mass.—New England Patriots players are spending the day emptying their lockers and heading into the offseason.
They filled large black trash bags with cleats and shirts then held a team meeting Monday after Sunday's 33-14 playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Running back Laurence Maroney sat and chatted with defensive back Terrence Wheatley. Linebacker Adalius Thomas, one of four players sent home earlier in the season for reporting late to a team meeting, acknowledged "it was an unusual year."
The Patriots won three Super Bowls from 2002 to 2005 then lost the title game in 2008. But this season they didn't get out of the first round.
Coach Bill Belichick said finishing the season with a poor performance was a big disappointment after the team worked so hard.
I like the Jets and Ravens in the AFC. In the NFC, I think that the Cowboys should win. I think that the Vikings are a more complete team, with more talent at most positions, but the team is trending down, while the Cowboys are trending up. Saints and Cardinals is hard, as the teams are sort of similar. I give the Cardinals a small edge, because Fitzgerald is better than anything the Saints have, but the difference will probably be made by the defences.
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
I give the Cardinals a small edge, because Fitzgerald is better than anything the Saints have, but the difference will probably be made by the defences.
The Cards defense, while porous at times, is still faster and filled with more insta-gamechangers than NO's bend-but-don't-breakers.
Any game against the Cards is probably going to come down to pass rush.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 11, 2010, 07:52:36 PM
Any game against the Cards is probably going to come down to pass rush.
Which doesn't bode well for Saint as one of their starting DE's is out.
Quote from: katmai on January 11, 2010, 07:54:47 PM
Which doesn't bode well for Saint as one of their starting DE's is out.
Quit stalking me.
Stupid Mark McGuire, Pete Carroll and GB-Arizona taking the news cycle away from the Boston Massacre. :mad:
ANOTHER NFL CONSPRICACY AGAINST BALTIMORE
I predict a Tony Romo fumble that costs Dallas the game. :smarty: :smarty:
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
If you try and put the Steelers' 2005 Superbowl on Roethlisberger, I'll have you killed. Also, nobody won any Superbowls for the first 33 of those 58 years.
Besides: Trent Dilfer.
No, it is very clear that they won the '05 SB in spite of the Berger, not because of him. However it is a fact that they have won 2 of their 6 SB's in Ben's 6 years as starting QB.
And yes there wasn't a Super Bowl until the late '60's; that was an error from hurrying this morning, I should have said NFL Championship, not Super Bowl. The Steelers never won an NFL championship of any sort until the '74 Super Bowl though.
I am not sure what the Dilfer reference is, unless you mean a mediocre QB winning the SB. If that is what you mean you are right, it is possible. Perhaps the exception that proves the rule?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
I give the Cardinals a small edge, because Fitzgerald is better than anything the Saints have, but the difference will probably be made by the defences.
The Cards defense, while porous at times, is still faster and filled with more insta-gamechangers than NO's bend-but-don't-breakers.
For sure, outside of Sharper I can't think of anyone on the Saints that can compare to:
Karlos Dansby
Darnell Dickett
Rogers-Cromartie
Adrian Wilson
Antrell Rolle
I am a bit biased though. ;)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
I give the Cardinals a small edge, because Fitzgerald is better than anything the Saints have, but the difference will probably be made by the defences.
The Cards defense, while porous at times, is still faster and filled with more insta-gamechangers than NO's bend-but-don't-breakers.
Darren Sharper maybe? :huh:
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 12, 2010, 12:12:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
I give the Cardinals a small edge, because Fitzgerald is better than anything the Saints have, but the difference will probably be made by the defences.
The Cards defense, while porous at times, is still faster and filled with more insta-gamechangers than NO's bend-but-don't-breakers.
Darren Sharper maybe? :huh:
Maybe. But he'll be busy running backwards.
http://tweetphoto.com/8547653
Damn. Check out the tip. :lol: I'm off to go get a job at Ruth's Chris. Later suckas.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 12, 2010, 06:27:46 AM
http://tweetphoto.com/8547653
Damn. Check out the tip. :lol:
Yeah, my sister waited at the Ruth Chris's here in Baltimore when the Ravens first moved here. She bought a new car after Tony Siragusa's first dinner.
And people wonder why my Colts-hate burns so brightly still....
Christmas, '78...
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The football is sort of in the shadows, and can be hard to see. It looks like the little CdM is asking 'Why god, why?'.
Quote from: Neil on January 12, 2010, 06:54:00 AM
The football is sort of in the shadows, and can be hard to see. It looks like the little CdM is asking 'Why god, why?'.
If you look closely, under the football on the left hand side of the pic, you'll see my dog Stanley. He was a good dog, lived long enough to see me go to college.
Oh I was just about to ask what that was.
Well, they dropped the charges against Zeus, so it looks like he'll have to wait a little while longer before getting sent upstate.
The layman's prediction:
Jets over Chargers
Ravens over Colts
Cowboys over Vikings
Saints over Cardinals
Okay, I'll make my picks public this week:
Chargers over Jets
Ravens over Colts
Vikings over Cowboys
Saints over Cardinals
I think the Ravens will lose to the Chargers in the AFC Championship, but they have enough momentum to shut down Manning, who has had too much rest.
I don't know. I sort of think that the Ravens own the Chargers. They'll make them one-dimensional.
Quote from: Neil on January 12, 2010, 11:01:38 AM
I don't know. I sort of think that the Ravens own the Chargers. They'll make them one-dimensional.
The Ravens *did* beat the Chargers in San Diego, but that was before the Chargers got their shit together & became the juggernaut they are now, on an 11-game win streak. I wish the Bungles had been able to play them early in the season :(
Btw, everyone in Cincy seems to be of the opinion that Shayne Graham cost the Bungles the game Saturday. Granted, he should have hit both FGs, but those 6 points were not the decisive factor in a 10-point loss.
I don't think I've heard one person complain about Palmer's bad decisions & lack of accuracy, or the receivers dropping the passes he did get into their hands.
Palmer did have an off day, but I think the last missed FG did it for Bengals. They could've been down to one score but instead they were still two scores down and without the ball.
Quote from: Liep on January 12, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
Palmer did have an off day, but I think the last missed FG did it for Bengals. They could've been down to one score but instead they were still two scores down and without the ball.
It still wasn't a decisive factor since the offense wasn't able to do anything with the ball when they (quickly) got it back. Hell, they were still "in it" on the last drive, even if it was a longshot.
Kickers are easily replaceable and so they provide excellent scapegoats. Much better to blame the kicker then the multimillion dollar quarterback.
After all the guy was in for a couple plays. How easy is that.
I blame Mart.
Can anyone name a color commentator that played on defense? :hmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
Can anyone name a color commentator that played on defense? :hmm:
We got several here, amongst them a defensive lineman named Bubba. He's not very good though.
Quote from: Liep on January 12, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
We got several here, amongst them a defensive lineman named Bubba. He's not very good though.
Bubba Smith?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
Can anyone name a color commentator that played on defense? :hmm:
Solomon Wilcots. And I think Matt Millen did color back in the 90s.
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
Solomon Wilcots.
Now there's a household name. Who does he work for?
Liep: you've got American guys doing commentary during broadcasts on Danish TV? Games are all done in English then?
Bubba is Danish. Believe it or not we actually have a Danish American Football League. Each year they play for the coveted Mermaid Bowl. Commentators are mostly coaches from that league iirc.
Also, we are European Champions in flag football. :P
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
And I think Matt Millen did color back in the 90s.
Right, forgot him. And there's the Goose.
Still an interesting imbalance, don't you think?
Quote from: Liep on January 12, 2010, 02:51:12 PM
Also, we are European Champions in flag football. :P
:worthy:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
Solomon Wilcots.
Now there's a household name. Who does he work for?
Are you Yi-ing me or do you really not know? :unsure:
Anywho, CBS. He also does (or at least did while I subscribed), the afternoon show on Sirius's NFL channel. Played DB for the Bungles, Steelers, & Vikings. He's one of the few broadcast guys who seems down to earth. He even remembered my name the second time I spoke with him :wub:
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:58:58 PM
Are you Yi-ing me or do you really not know? :unsure:
Never heard of the guy. :-|
Quote from: Liep on January 12, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
Believe it or not we actually have a Danish American Football League. Each year they play for the coveted Mermaid Bowl. Commentators are mostly coaches from that league iirc.
The AFL plays for the (duh) Austrian Bowl. We have the Vienna Vikings, Danube Dragons, Graz Giants, Carinthian Black Lions, Cineplexx Blue Devils (in Hohenems), and Swarco Raiders Tirol (Swarco being the sponsor). Blue Devils and Black Lions have quit the league and mostly play against Division I teams now, but participate in the play offs (they play each other and the meet the third of the normal "league" IIRC or some other harebrained mode).
The current champions are:
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(used to be first Chrysler, then Dodge Vikings - in Austrian pro sports it's pretty common to make your main sponsor part of the team name and logo ... especially prevalent in soccer)
They also won a couple Eurobowls.
None of those sound as badas as Nippon Ham Fighters.
German league, btw:
GFL Nord
* Assindia Cardinals (Essen ... I had to look that up :P )
* Berlin Adler
* Braunschweig Lions
* Dresden Monarchs
* Kiel Baltic Hurricanes
GFL Süd
* Marburg Mercenaries
* Munich Cowboys
* Plattling Black Hawks
* Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns
* Stuttgart Scorpions
* Weinheim Longhorns
German Bowl XXXI was won by Berlin Adler (28-21 over Kiel).
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
None of those sound as badas as Nippon Ham Fighters.
Ass-India Cardinals sounds evil.
Quote from: Syt on January 12, 2010, 03:06:45 PM
* Munich Cowboys
Wyoming is recruiting a linebacker from the Munchkin Cowboys.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
None of those sound as badas as Nippon Ham Fighters.
I always thought the Hiroshima Carp were the most badass...
Quote from: Barrister on January 12, 2010, 04:43:10 PM
I always thought the Hiroshima Carp were the most badass...
Would you rather wade naked in a pool filled with carp or a pool filled with ham?
I was curious about the name so I googled it. Apparently the club was named after their owners, the Nippon Ham corporation. So it's not that they are the Nippon Ham-Fighters, but rather the Nippon-Ham Fighters.
Carp is still the silliest sounding name I've ever heard for a sports team (to western ears).
Mister Sparkle!
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
Can anyone name a color commentator that played on defense? :hmm:
Solomon Wilcots. And I think Matt Millen did color back in the 90s.
Millen still does from time to time. And then there's Siragusa, although he's a sideliner.
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 12:10:09 PM
Btw, everyone in Cincy seems to be of the opinion that Shayne Graham cost the Bungles the game Saturday. Granted, he should have hit both FGs, but those 6 points were not the decisive factor in a 10-point loss.
I don't think I've heard one person complain about Palmer's bad decisions & lack of accuracy, or the receivers dropping the passes he did get into their hands.
Maybe Graham, as a prank, switched the grease for the jerseys with the glue for the hands?
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 12:10:09 PM
Btw, everyone in Cincy seems to be of the opinion that Shayne Graham cost the Bungles the game Saturday. Granted, he should have hit both FGs, but those 6 points were not the decisive factor in a 10-point loss.
I don't think I've heard one person complain about Palmer's bad decisions & lack of accuracy, or the receivers dropping the passes he did get into their hands.
What do people in Cincy think about Tom Brady being the NFL Comeback Player of the Year, when--and yes, as a Bengals hater I'm saying this--Cedric Benson really should've gotten it?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2010, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
And I think Matt Millen did color back in the 90s.
Right, forgot him. And there's the Goose.
Still an interesting imbalance, don't you think?
Tim Ryan.
Watch more football, Yi.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
What do people in Cincy think about Tom Brady being the NFL Comeback Player of the Year, when--and yes, as a Bengals hater I'm saying this--Cedric Benson really should've gotten it?
Is anybody really surprised? I mean, I guess I'm surprised that they had the audacity to actually give the award to a system quarterback who spent a year on IR, and came back to a first-rate line and the best receiving corps in the AFC.
If I were Doug Flutie, Tommy Maddox, Jon Kitna or Chad Pennington, I'd mail my award back. It's the football equivalent of giving Obama the Peace Prize.
QuoteColts To Rest Starters For First Game Of Playoffs
January 12, 2010 | Issue 46•01 | Onion Sports
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INDIANAPOLIS—At his weekly press conference Monday, Colts head coach Jim Caldwell announced that he will rest key starters during the divisional round of the AFC playoffs to keep his players fresh for a Super Bowl run. "You can't win the Super Bowl if you don't get there with all your players healthy," said Caldwell, who added that next Saturday quarterback Peyton Manning would probably get the first two series, which will mostly be comprised of running plays. "Dwight [Freeney] and Dallas [Clark] will get about a quarter in the AFC Championship game. But honestly, even if we make it to the Super Bowl, I can't see playing these guys the whole game. The 2010 season is closer than you think." Throughout the entire press conference Manning could be seen in full uniform, stalking and pacing in the back of the room.
Nooooooooooooo!
QuoteDan Dierdorf is excited to be calling Saturday's playoff game between the Ravens and Colts on CBS
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2010, 09:59:14 PM
Throughout the entire press conference Manning could be seen in full uniform, stalking and pacing in the back of the room.
:lol:
His body language throughout his benching was absolutely hillarious. You could almost see him mulling over having Bill Polian assassinated.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2010, 10:00:34 PM
Nooooooooooooo!
QuoteDan Dierdorf is excited to be calling Saturday's playoff game between the Ravens and Colts on CBS
Serves you right
The professional football team in Indianapolis is favored by -6 1/2.
Insulting.
The Texans hired a new OC. Dennison from Denver..former OC, got sent back to...Oline, I think it was, when the new dude took over there. Apparently, pretty much everyone has already worked together before, and there won't be a whole lot of new stuff for the guys on offense to learn, etc.
In other Texans news, Alex Gibbs took off for Seattle.
Nothing really interesting.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 13, 2010, 06:45:16 AM
The Texans hired a new OC. Dennison from Denver..former OC, got sent back to...Oline, I think it was, when the new dude took over there. Apparently, pretty much everyone has already worked together before, and there won't be a whole lot of new stuff for the guys on offense to learn, etc.
In other Texans news, Alex Gibbs took off for Seattle.
Nothing really interesting.
This thread is for the playoffs and the teams playing them. So, stop spamming. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 13, 2010, 06:52:15 AM
This thread is for the playoffs and the teams playing them. So, stop spamming. :P
This is a good example of why you get Dierdorf. :nelson:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
What do people in Cincy think about Tom Brady being the NFL Comeback Player of the Year, when--and yes, as a Bengals hater I'm saying this--Cedric Benson really should've gotten it?
Doesn't seem to be a big deal, even if it should be. People booed most of the time when he ran the ball anyway-- not out of any disdain for Benson, but because it didn't look as pretty as exciting as a passing play.
I'm starting to lose my patience with the yokels re: NFL football. Half of them act like spoiled brats (what spoiled them, God only knows) and the other half are just plain clueless. I had a couple people in my section yelling at me to sit down in the 1st quarter last Saturday, when there was a lot going on & the Bengals were actually in the game. My response was: to stand the entire game :menace:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 13, 2010, 06:35:43 AM
The professional football team in Indianapolis is favored by -6 1/2.
Insulting.
It's good motivation. Would've been better if the Colts had been favored by 2 scores. I'll have my imaginary Flacco jersey on Saturday :)
Quote from: derspiess on January 13, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
I'm starting to lose my patience with the yokels re: NFL football. Half of them act like spoiled brats (what spoiled them, God only knows)
:lol:
QuoteI had a couple people in my section yelling at me to sit down in the 1st quarter last Saturday, when there was a lot going on & the Bengals were actually in the game. My response was: to stand the entire game :menace:
Nobody sits at Ravens games, unless it's halftime or you're eating. :huh:
But, every town has its moron fans. There are still people calling in radio shows here who believe that Harbaugh shouldn't be head coach, and the Black Powah(tm) conspiracy crowd that thinks Bisciotti has Flacco starting over Troy Smith because it's an "Italian thing".
I have gone totally pro-Cowboy (for one week only) after watching five minutes of NFL Network Favremania.
Every Packer game I've ever been to I've never even seen people sitting in the entire stadium during the game. Even in college football the fans are standing. :P
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Better than cheering for that honourless scum Favre.
While true, the cowboys should always be scorned in any given situation. It brings tears of joy to my eyes to watch them implode every postseason game.
i refuse to root for the cowboys.
I'm actually rooting for the roof to collapse on the field during the game. Cowboys offense on the field preferably.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2010, 08:26:43 PM
I'm actually rooting for the roof to collapse on the field during the game. Cowboys offense on the field preferably.
That happened once already this season.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Better than cheering for that honourless scum Favre.
While true, the cowboys should always be scorned in any given situation. It brings tears of joy to my eyes to watch them implode every postseason game.
The best situation would be a Viking win with a Favre career-ending injury. Like if he were to gunsling the ball into the ridiculous low-hanging screen, and have it bounce back and impale him through the chest.
:lol:
Too true. :D
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2010, 08:26:43 PM
I'm actually rooting for the roof to collapse on the field during the game. Cowboys offense on the field preferably.
No kidding, my two most hated team playing each other at once in the playoffs.
Quote from: katmai on January 13, 2010, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2010, 08:26:43 PM
I'm actually rooting for the roof to collapse on the field during the game. Cowboys offense on the field preferably.
That happened once already this season.
That was just the practice field.
Your stat of the day:
Manning has thrown 7 INTs in the last 4 games vs. the Ravens.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
While true, the cowboys should always be scorned in any given situation.
This should be etched on every NFL stadium. The one commandment.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 07:30:13 AM
Your stat of the day:
Manning has thrown 7 INTs in the last 4 games vs. the Ravens despite that the Colts won all 4 games.
I fixed that for you!
I'm actually enjoying how most analysts are suddenly picking the Cowboys to win this game. That'll get the Vikings nice and motivated... :ph34r:
obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSFYxDGKy8
Ditka will back the Ravens, and the Ravens will prevail.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2010, 07:35:21 PM
I have gone totally pro-Cowboy
You are dead to me. If Marti didnt keep coming back here you would be the mud below the lowest member we have.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2010, 07:35:21 PM
I have gone totally pro-Cowboy
You are dead to me. If Marti didnt keep coming back here you would be the mud below the lowest member we have.
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Even cancer is better then cheering for the Cowboys. You will never live this down.
Avatar changed. Just for Neil.
I'd ban you for that.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
I'd ban you for that.
What a coincidence. I'd ban you for your avatar. :bowler:
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Even cancer is better then cheering for the Cowboys. You will never live this down.
Cheering is a strong word. And cancer isn't really all that bad, when directed properly.
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Even cancer is better then cheering for the Cowboys. You will never live this down.
Cheering is a strong word. And cancer isn't really all that bad, when directed properly.
"Going totally pro Cowboy" is a sin against humanity no matter what you call it.
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
I'd ban you for that.
What a coincidence. I'd ban you for your avatar. :bowler:
I would ban both of you for your retarded avatars, but I am pretty laid back.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Even cancer is better then cheering for the Cowboys. You will never live this down.
Cheering is a strong word. And cancer isn't really all that bad, when directed properly.
"Going totally pro Cowboy" is a sin against humanity no matter what you call it.
There are teams worse than the Cowboys.
Quote from: Strix on January 14, 2010, 11:04:02 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 07:30:13 AM
Your stat of the day:
Manning has thrown 7 INTs in the last 4 games vs. the Ravens despite that the Colts won all 4 games.
I fixed that for you!
How's that Penguins season coming along?
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
All you Favre-lovers are retarded. That man is a cancer on the NFL's media presence. It's like T.O.x10.
Even cancer is better then cheering for the Cowboys. You will never live this down.
Cheering is a strong word. And cancer isn't really all that bad, when directed properly.
"Going totally pro Cowboy" is a sin against humanity no matter what you call it.
There are teams worse than the Cowboys.
:hmm:
Not sure I agree. I know you're going to come back with the Tariots, but they've only been Patriotards for the last decade. The Cowboys and their fans have been douches for decades.
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 06:41:12 PM
:hmm:
Not sure I agree. I know you're going to come back with the Tariots, but they've only been Patriotards for the last decade. The Cowboys and their fans have been douches for decades.
Douchebags whose teams go 8-8 and miss the playoffs are a lot less annoying than douchebags whose teams cheat and go 16-0 and win tainted Superbowls and damage the integrity of the game.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
How's that Penguins season coming along?
I wouldn't know. I lack the straight ticket mentality of some people.
Quote from: Strix on January 14, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
How's that Penguins season coming along?
I wouldn't know. I lack the straight ticket mentality of some people.
Indeed. Instead, you're enjoying the antics of the worst team in hockey.
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 09:52:18 PM
Indeed. Instead, you're enjoying the antics of the worst team in hockey.
Sadly true. It's the karma price I pay for the Steelers success. The Hurricanes, Orioles, and 76ers all suffer horrible season after horrible season.
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
Douchebags whose teams go 8-8 and miss the playoffs are a lot less annoying than douchebags whose teams cheat and go 16-0 and win tainted Superbowls and damage the integrity of the game.
Fuck the Cowboys forever. The Patriots only have 2nd tier douche fans. Jerry Jones is worse than any sort of cheating and whining their players, coaches, and fans could ever do.
Just because they're playing Brett "I'M HAVING FUN AREN'T YOU" Favre doesn't mean the Cowboys and their people aren't suddenly
not the most awful things ever.
Yeah....seriously Neil, you should probably recant that statement. :shutup:
I back Neil. Anyone but Favre at this point. I'd support the Vikings if Favre was paralyzed and ended up like Christopher Reeve or Stephen Hawking. Death would make him a legend and a martyr, and I will have none of it. As is, I'm backing the 'Boys over the Vikings. Hod willing, the Saints or Cards are the NFC Champion, hopefully the Saints.
QuoteThe Oher and Gaither versus Freeney and Mathis showdown is one of the major story lines of the week, even though Gaither (ankle) did not practice Wednesday and was clearly bothered by the injury during practice Thursday. He did not look like someone who would be ready to play in two days.
In other NFL news, the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing nothing this weekend.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 15, 2010, 04:12:01 AM
I back Neil. Anyone but Favre at this point. I'd support the Vikings if Favre was paralyzed and ended up like Christopher Reeve or Stephen Hawking. Death would make him a legend and a martyr, and I will have none of it. As is, I'm backing the 'Boys over the Vikings. Hod willing, the Saints or Cards are the NFC Champion, hopefully the Saints.
Yep. Both the Saints and the Cardinals are honourable teams.
Why you don't go to road games in Boston:
Quote"Sitting in the stands at New England was surreal. Nobody believed what was happening. After a few minutes, the Patriots fans went numb. They actually forgot how to insult us."
Afterward, when the Guys returned to their purple van, they found that it had been spat upon and Ravens decals torn off.
"Two mounted policemen were standing guard over it when we got there," he said.
A Team worse then the Cowboys? The motherfucking Eagles. Sure they haven't won anything but god are they annoying with their damn Love-hate relationship with their black QB.
Go Vikes. Favre for President!
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2010, 07:08:43 AM
but god are they annoying with their damn Love-hate relationship with their black QB.
No shit. Philly fans and McNabb are a microcosm of race relations in America. ZOMG CAN WE RECONCILE
Jets reported David Harris their top tackler on Defense should be 100% for the SD game after a twisted ankle.
In other news Darrelle Revis got screwed out of the Defensive MVP award. <_<
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2010, 06:56:00 AM
Why you don't go to road games in Boston:
Quote"Sitting in the stands at New England was surreal. Nobody believed what was happening. After a few minutes, the Patriots fans went numb. They actually forgot how to insult us."
Afterward, when the Guys returned to their purple van, they found that it had been spat upon and Ravens decals torn off.
"Two mounted policemen were standing guard over it when we got there," he said.
I wear neutral colors wherever I go for a road game, unless I have to actually do something to help out. I've been hassled at Ravens, Eagles, Giants, and Steelers games, but nothing compares to the treatment we got when we were trying to leave the last Browns game before they pulled up stakes & moved to Baltimore.
Semi-related, what's the deal with the random fans you see all geared up at an NFL game, wearing a jersey, hat, etc. for a team that is not playing there that day? There's one guy who must have season tickets to Bungles games but is always decked out in Titans stuff. I've also seen that at other stadiums. Makes them look like they are expecting to see their team play.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2010, 12:32:34 PM
Makes them look like they are expecting to see their team play.
Perhaps they are.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2010, 06:44:17 AM
In other NFL news, the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing nothing this weekend.
Not quite true. The World Famous Pittsburgh Steelers are polishing their six Superbowl trophies. And, of course, tuning in this weekend to watch Ray-Ray do his pathetic little dance that's all he has left of a once great career. I can''t wait until he pulls a Junior and brings his dance to new England for the last 4-5 years of his career.
Quote from: Strix on January 15, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
I can''t wait until he pulls a Junior and brings his dance to new England for the last 4-5 years of his career.
:lol:
That would be the best thing to ever happen.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2010, 12:32:34 PM
Semi-related, what's the deal with the random fans you see all geared up at an NFL game, wearing a jersey, hat, etc. for a team that is not playing there that day? There's one guy who must have season tickets to Bungles games but is always decked out in Titans stuff. I've also seen that at other stadiums. Makes them look like they are expecting to see their team play.
I've seen it happen at the Grey Cup, but at least then it makes sense since the fans probably bought their tickets months ago before even knowing who was going to be playing. It's more a festival of the CFL than it is a game between the two specific teams.
But at a regular game? Nah doesn't make sense.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2010, 12:32:34 PM
Semi-related, what's the deal with the random fans you see all geared up at an NFL game, wearing a jersey, hat, etc. for a team that is not playing there that day? There's one guy who must have season tickets to Bungles games but is always decked out in Titans stuff. I've also seen that at other stadiums. Makes them look like they are expecting to see their team play.
Synergy.
Quote from: Strix on January 15, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2010, 06:44:17 AM
In other NFL news, the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing nothing this weekend.
Not quite true. The World Famous Pittsburgh Steelers are polishing their six Superbowl trophies. And, of course, tuning in this weekend to watch Ray-Ray do his pathetic little dance that's all he has left of a once great career. I can''t wait until he pulls a Junior and brings his dance to new England for the last 4-5 years of his career.
Why would anybody do that? Junior went to the Patriots to win a Superbowl, but great justice was being done the Cheatriots by the time he got there. And these days, the odds of New England winning another Superbowl in the next few years is nil.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2010, 02:46:09 PM
Why would anybody do that? Junior went to the Patriots to win a Superbowl, but great justice was being done the Cheatriots by the time he got there. And these days, the odds of New England winning another Superbowl in the next few years is nil.
They have a better chance than the Ravens in the next few years.
Do you aim to sounds like a moron when discussing football, or is it just a sad reflection on how out of touch with reality you are? The Ravens have a shot at winning a Super Bowl in the next few weeks, let alone the next few years. The Patriots, just like the Steelers, do not.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 15, 2010, 05:25:16 PM
Do you aim to sounds like a moron when discussing football, or is it just a sad reflection on how out of touch with reality you are? The Ravens have a shot at winning a Super Bowl in the next few weeks, let alone the next few years. The Patriots, just like the Steelers, do not.
The Ravens have no realistic chance of winning the Superbowl this season nor do they have any chance of winning it in the next few years.
Only a moron would think otherwise. Ray Rice is nice but without a decent QB to back him up he'll get shut down. Flacco has become Flake-O recently. It could be to injury or just inexperience but either way it means the end of the playoffs.
No, if Ray-Ray wants a Superbowl it will be with another team.
Well, it was definitely the amazing play of their QB that won them their first Super Bowl. And Tampa Bay theirs. And the Steelers second to last one. But hey, you know better than I. :lol:
If I was going to come up with a list of the top ten teams most likely to win a superbowl in the next 5 years I dare say both New England and Baltimore would be on that list. :mellow:
Since you like playing the moron, I believe you answered the question on your own. It was their defenses that won them their Superbowls. I hate to break it to you but this Ravens defense isn't that good. Maybe if you knew something about football you'd understand that. Hell, if you just read what Neil and CdM posted about their own team you'd know that.
Manning will light them up and Flake-O won't have an answer. Rice will get his 100+ yards in a losing cause. See Chris Johnson or the Raiders if you are unable to comprehend why a dominant running back doesn't mean success in the NFL and why a pathetic QB means disaster.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 15, 2010, 05:25:16 PM
Do you aim to sounds like a moron when discussing football, or is it just a sad reflection on how out of touch with reality you are? The Ravens have a shot at winning a Super Bowl in the next few weeks, let alone the next few years. The Patriots, just like the Steelers, do not.
Sorry, Judas, but you've got to remember you're trying to engage in a coversation with a Pittsburgh mouthbreather. Yuns.
QuoteThe Ravens are likely catching another break in regards to the officials for Saturday night's playoff game at Indianapolis.
Carl Cheffers' crew has called the least amount of pass interference penalties in the NFL this season. That group has thrown five flags for pass interference in 15 regular-season games.
That could be an important part of the game for the Ravens, who might have to defend between 30 to 35 passes from Colts quarterback Peyton Manning.
In fact, Cheffers' crew has called the fifth-fewest penalties this season (180). The most popular penalty with this group is holding (40 times).
Alright, so all they have to do is beat the Colts and they're on the all-star crews. Which means they might get Hochuli!
I think the league mandated that Hochuli wear a bigger shirt.
I'm going to be a nervous wreck all day.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 16, 2010, 08:21:22 AM
I'm going to be a nervous wreck all day.
There goes the revolution
I hope Bill Simmons taint isn't greater than Beeb taint :ph34r:
QuoteTheories in Play: Like with Vikes/Cowboys, the "Beware of teams that looked a little too good in Round 1" and "Don't overrate home-field advantage" theories cancel out. So let's go with the pure matchups: San Diego loves chucking the ball, can't run the ball and can't stop the run. The Jets love running the ball, suck at stopping the run and do a nice job against passing teams. Could they have picked a better Round 2 opponent? The stars have aligned for the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJETS.
(Insert sound of thousands of Jets fans screaming, "Nooooooooooooo! He picked us! KISS OF DEATH!!!!!!!!!" Well, you shouldn't have sent me so many taunting e-mails last weekend. Enjoy the Simmons stink.)
The Pick: Jets 20, Chargers 19.
Quote from: Vince on January 15, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
Jets reported David Harris their top tackler on Defense should be 100% for the SD game after a twisted ankle.
In other news Darrelle Revis got screwed out of the Defensive MVP award. <_<
How did he get screwed, Charles Woodson owned the league this year.
Woodson: 9 Int, 4 ff, 2 sacks, 3 tds
Revis: 6 int, 1 td
That's how it stacks up.
Cry baby. <_<
Woodson put up flashy sats, becaus ehe plays the ball, not the player. He got burned quite a few times doing so. Revis on the other hand, simply shut everyone down who he was assigned to. His stats might not have been as flashy as Woodson, but I'd say he had a more effective and game changing season.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 03:23:59 PM
Woodson put up flashy sats, becaus ehe plays the ball, not the player. He got burned quite a few times doing so. Revis on the other hand, simply shut everyone down who he was assigned to. His stats might not have been as flashy as Woodson, but I'd say he had a more effective and game changing season.
Stats added for effect. ;)
Passes Defended/deflected :
Woodson: 18
Revis: 31
Revis is a shutdown corner who also had some picks and a td. Woodson is simply an ok corner and a stat whore.
I would have voted for Revis, but Woodson doesn't shame the award either.
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
I would have voted for Revis, but Woodson doesn't shame the award either.
Nay, he does not. However, I think Revis was the stronger candidate.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 03:23:59 PM
Woodson put up flashy sats, becaus ehe plays the ball, not the player. He got burned quite a few times doing so. Revis on the other hand, simply shut everyone down who he was assigned to. His stats might not have been as flashy as Woodson, but I'd say he had a more effective and game changing season.
We need a new stat to effectively decide who had a better year: routes jumped when there was safety help and routes jumped when there was no safety help. :nerd:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
I would have voted for Revis, but Woodson doesn't shame the award either.
Nay, he does not. However, I think Revis was the stronger candidate.
Voters love stats, which is why offensive linemen don't win major awards. Looking at the Jets schedule, you have to give Revis for shutting down pretty much the best receivers in the AFC.
Well, that's that.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 16, 2010, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: Vince on January 15, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
Jets reported David Harris their top tackler on Defense should be 100% for the SD game after a twisted ankle.
In other news Darrelle Revis got screwed out of the Defensive MVP award. <_<
How did he get screwed, Charles Woodson owned the league this year.
Woodson: 9 Int, 4 ff, 2 sacks, 3 tds
Revis: 6 int, 1 td
That's how it stacks up.
Cry baby. <_<
Let's add some more stats...
As Judas already pointed out Revis had more passes defended than Woodson.
Stats Inc. records what it calls "burns," the number of times a defender allows a reception to the man he's covering. Stats Inc. then divides that by the number of times the defender is targeted to compute a "burn percentage," a stat in which Revis led the NFL.
Revis: 40 receptions on 108 targets (37.0 percent) for 439 yards and two touchdowns.
Woodson: 40 receptions on 84 targets (47.6 percent) for 560 yards and six touchdowns.
Revis did that against Andre Johnson, Moss (twice), T.O. (twice), Colston, Steve Smith, Roddy White, Reggie Wayne and OchoCinco.
That's why I think he deserved Defensive MVP.
Those FF and int's for td's won games. Jets suck :P Revis is great, don't get me wrong, but Woodson is out there winning games and leading the defense, and that's why he won the award.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 16, 2010, 04:47:16 PM
Those FF and int's for td's won games. Jets suck :P Revis is great, don't get me wrong, but Woodson is out there winning games and leading the defense, and that's why he won the award.
The leadership thing is a good point. Woodson provides veteran leadership to a very young, talented defence. Revis is a shutdown corner, but doesn't yet have the presence and personality. And he has the best strong safety in football putting fear into guys for him.
Warner is going to be pissed off that his ridiculously good throw is negated by poor ball security by the receiver.
The Cardinals better hope that Warner doesn't retire.
It's amazing watching all these NFC teams who don't know how to tackle, and will get raped by the AFC in the Superbowl because of it.
Awesome TD run by Bush. Game is over.
Do we all agree that the Saints have the best uniforms in the league?
I think that was a shitty call. Rogers got full on facemasked when he lost the ball on the last play of the game last week. :glare:
Total bullshit call.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 16, 2010, 05:29:27 PM
I think that was a shitty call. Rogers got full on facemasked when he lost the ball on the last play of the game last week. :glare:
Not a great call, but I can see how it could be made. Slap to the head, maybe incidental contact, but then when you grab and turn the mask, that's a call.
As for Rogers, that was a good no-call.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 16, 2010, 05:24:47 PM
Awesome TD run by Bush. Game is over.
Do we all agree that the Saints have the best uniforms in the league?
The Saints have great uniforms, but the game is still on.
:lol:
I don't even think Wilson tried to tackle him there.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 16, 2010, 05:24:47 PM
Do we all agree that the Saints have the best uniforms in the league?
Cowboys?
Chargers?
Colts if you like oldschool?
Falcons if you like modern?
This game is boring the hell out of me....Cmon Ravens. :pirate
Warner just got levelled! :lol:
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 16, 2010, 05:48:31 PM
This game is boring the hell out of me....Cmon Ravens. :pirate
Which is funny, given that this is supposed to be what people like, a shootout and all that.
Well I don't like either of these teams. But Warner nearly got hurt, so that makes it worth watching...nearly. :swiss:
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 16, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
Well I don't like either of these teams. But Warner nearly got hurt, so that makes it worth watching...nearly. :swiss:
What do you have against Warner?
I've never heard of anyone having anything against Warner.
Oh, wait.
His Christianity. :rolleyes:
I'm atheist or something? :huh:
I just don't like all of his bandwagoners once things start going well for his team.
It's no where near as prolific as my Manning hate.
Warner is cool, but then again, what has more potential for hilarity than Matt Leinart in a playoff game?
Watch he'll throw an 80 yard TD pass here.
Aw too bad.
God, Leinart throws an ugly pass.
Wow. They need to get Brees on the bench, stat. He almost got crippled there.
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
And with a quarter and more to play, the over (57) has been hit.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
Why would the punter want to ding himself up on a lost cause?
Quote from: ulmont on January 16, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
And with a quarter and more to play, the over (57) has been hit.
Anybody who took the under on that would need their head examined.
:lol:
Fumbles have really wrecked Arizona on this one.
And they better not kick, down by 31 and with Rackers.
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
Why would the punter want to ding himself up on a lost cause?
I'd waive his no effort ass at the end of the game.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
Why would the punter want to ding himself up on a lost cause?
I'd waive his no effort ass at the end of the game.
If they follow that policy the whole defense has to be cut after the game though :hmm:
Quote from: JacobL on January 16, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
Why would the punter want to ding himself up on a lost cause?
I'd waive his no effort ass at the end of the game.
If they follow that policy the whole defense has to be cut after the game though :hmm:
I would be a cruel master.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
Lol, the Arizona punter jogging to catch Bush.
Why would the punter want to ding himself up on a lost cause?
I'd waive his no effort ass at the end of the game.
Depends on how good he punts. If a guy can bury teams inside their 10 with regularity, then fuck it. If the punter has to save the day, your coverage team sucks.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
I would be a cruel master.
You'd never get approved. My league sources tell me that one Al Davis is enough.
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
I would be a cruel master.
You'd never get approved. My league sources tell me that one Al Davis is enough.
I'd be worse than Al. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
I would be a cruel master.
You'd never get approved. My league sources tell me that one Al Davis is enough.
I'd be worse than Al. :blush:
At least Al was a smart football man in his own time.
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 07:23:06 PM
At least Al was a smart football man in his own time.
I've followed the NFL since 2002. While intellectually I know what you say is true, I still find it hard to believe...
Who Dat! Who Dat! Who Dat say dey gonna beat dem Saints!
Quote from: Barrister on January 16, 2010, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 07:23:06 PM
At least Al was a smart football man in his own time.
I've followed the NFL since 2002. While intellectually I know what you say is true, I still find it hard to believe...
Yeah. His own time was the 60s, 70s and 80s.
lol Dierdorf thinks the Colts look sharp.
The way they just cut up the Ravens D, i'm inclined to agree.
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 09:19:45 PM
The way they just cut up the Ravens D, i'm inclined to agree.
Dierdorf is an idiot. The two plays surrounding that comment were a wildly high pass to Reggie Wayne, and a delay of game penalty on the home team. The Colts don't look sharp at all yet, even with that last drive. Anyway, don't mistake Peyton Fetusface Manning, the machine, with the rest of the team. They'll get in a rhythm eventually, but hasn't happened yet.
Seedy looks like he's not her, so you'll have to pick up the slack and whine about some penalties Neil. Adds savour to the game.
Oh wow...that was a really bad time for a three and out.
Edit: lol nice tackling edit2: and pass coverage
edit3: :face:
Ok, that was a bullshit call. That was a clean shoulder hit.
Quote from: ulmont on January 16, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
Ok, that was a bullshit call. That was a clean shoulder hit.
There was helmet to helmet contact, they had a good angle of it, but the whole defenseless receiver thing seemed strange. Doesn't really matter though, I don't think.
Stick a fork in this one.
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 09:37:45 PM
Stick a fork in this one.
And Star Trek probably won't work right now either. Bummer.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 16, 2010, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 09:37:45 PM
Stick a fork in this one.
And Star Trek probably won't work right now either. Bummer.
Nah it was, only problem is logging in as server is full :lol:
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 09:41:52 PM
Nah it was, only problem is logging in as server is full :lol:
:lol: Mine is busy counting...stuff...right now.
Why are they throwing it at 3rd and short? It does not work, RUN IT.
Oh man...the Ravens just can't get a break.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 16, 2010, 10:21:39 PM
Oh man...the Ravens just can't get a break.
Don't you know, it's a conspiracy!
Jesus, God, the Refs have been bought. Another turnover called back by the refs...
:cry:
it's beautiful to watch ulmont channel Seedy and neil for us.
:lol:
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 10:26:06 PM
:cry:
it's beautiful to watch ulmont channel Seedy and neil for us.
Gimme another minute or two and I'll start rambling about moon crickets and ethnic Albertans. Seriously, this is ridiculous.
The commentators continously blowing their collective load over Manning is really annoying.
Quote from: HVC on January 16, 2010, 10:28:26 PM
The commentators continously blowing their collective load over Manning is really annoying.
Yes. :yuk:
...as my wife put it, "it's hard to understand these announcers with Payton Manning's dick in their mouths..."
He's the most intelligent QB to ever play the game!
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 10:30:13 PM
He's the most intelligent QB to ever play the game!
Yeah, well he injects steriods one arm at a time, just like the others :P
Quote from: ulmont on January 16, 2010, 10:29:47 PM
...as my wife put it, "it's hard to understand these announcers with Payton Manning's dick in their mouths..."
Pretty much what my wife has been saying too. "Who's this guy blowing Peyton Manning?"
[Payton Manning sacks himself]
Announcer: "Well, he's just playing smart football."
[Payton overthrows the end zone]
Announcer: "That was a great throw by Manning."
Your wives have dirty mouths... that's a good thing :lol:
These commentators are terrible though. :yuk:
So how was that the ref's fault?
My God. :mad:
The fumble? (You appear to be a few seconds ahead of me).
That...that was PTSD from penalties affecting the Ravens.
Quote from: ulmont on January 16, 2010, 10:42:41 PM
The fumble? (You appear to be a few seconds ahead of me).
That...that was PTSD from penalties affecting the Ravens.
:lol:
So let's talk tomorrows games :P
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
So let's talk tomorrows games :P
I pick Chargers, Cowboys.
Fucking Ravens choke against the Baltimore Colts again.
Quote from: ulmont on January 16, 2010, 10:45:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
So let's talk tomorrows games :P
I pick Chargers, Cowboys.
Hmm I agree on Bolts, the other game I don't want to hear the nonsensical stories that will come out all next week about whomever wins. :P
For all who mocked me last weekend, I've gone 2/2 so far...
I stand by my pics of San Diego and Minnesota.
:)
Chargers and..... I guess I'll go for the Vikings on the stipulation that they lose to the Saints ? Agreed? Good.
I just won't be able to put up with all the Tony Homo/Cowboys hype as much as I will with the Vikings ranting. :sleep:
Hey Judas it seems I know a lot more about football than you. Manning didn't 'light them" up because he missed a couple TD throws but he did a good enough job. Flake-O was exposed and had nothing. Rice got his 100+ yards in a losing cause.
The only thing sadder than your moronic belief that the Ravens had (have anytime soon) a chance at winning the Superbowl was watching Ray Lewis stumble around the field always a couple steps slow on each play. No, sorry, I stand corrected, Harbaugh looking around confused and bewildered because the undisciplined play of his defense cost his team chance after chance was much more sad.
When you learn more about football come back and try to talk shit to me.
You're such a retard that it's laughable Strix. That's all I'm going to bother commenting on your post.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
You're such a retard that it's laughable Strix. That's all I'm going to bother commenting on your post.
There is nothing else you can say when you get owned like that. I understand.
Peyton lucked out of two potential game changing interceptions. Rice had under 100 yards. Flacco's targets had more than 5 drops on the night, which doesn't mean he "got exposed" so much as unlucky. The removal of the game killing turnovers and I think you'd have seen a far, far different game. I don't remember you predicting those. I don't remember you predicting it'd be 3-3 for the vast majority of the first half. Were you right about tonight's game? Yes. Even a blind nut gets a squirrel Strix. Maybe you can take yourself and those of blood relation to you on a victory parade of your awesomeness right off a cliff like the O'Doyle clan from Billy Madison.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 11:22:50 PM
Peyton lucked out of two potential game changing interceptions.
Yes, Peyton lucked out of two potential interceptions that could have resulted in scores. The Ravens also dodged a couple passes that Manning just missed on that would have been game breaking touchdowns. Could have, would have, should have means nothing in the end if it doesn't count.
Quote from: Judas IscariotRice had under 100 yards.
Rice had a 120 total yards. Rice is the Ravens main running and receiving threat. So, no, Rice wasn't held under a 100 yards. Just shows your lack of football knowledge and insight into players.
Quote from: Judas IscariotFlacco's targets had more than 5 drops on the night, which doesn't mean he "got exposed" so much as unlucky.
Did you watch the game? They were dropped passes because the receivers touched them. They weren't on target (most of them were late) and they wouldn't have been an easy catch for even great receivers. The only easy dropped pass was McClain's near the goal line.
Flake-O got away with one when his own game changing interception was dropped. The Ravens would have gone down 10-0 quickly and I am sure a blow-out would have resulted. Flake-O looked lost and unprepared. After an initial good start he couldn't throw down field at all. So, yes, he was exposed.
I told you what would happen and it did. Do I need to tell you minute by minute? Games aren't over until the fourth quarter finishes and than sometimes they go to overtime. Learn more about football and you will understand that.
You got owned, get over it, it happens. Luck had nothing to do with it, as I am normally spot on about the NFL. You are just to stupid and biased to realize that.
Like I said, learn some more about football than come back and talk shit.
Neil, tough loss. The defense looked good until they got left on the field to long.
On the bright side, Matt Stover looked good, oh wait nevermind. :D
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 16, 2010, 11:22:50 PM
Peyton lucked out of two potential game changing interceptions.
Only Peyton Manning could throw 2 interceptions during the same drive, and still get points on the board. :lol:
Ugh, what an ugly game. Microcosm of the Ravens season right there. Inconsistency and mistakes at inopportune times.
Inability to move the ball downfield simply highlights the need for a big-time wide receiver; Derek Mason and a bunch of practice squad possession receivers just doesn't cut it when you have to go to the 2-minute offense and stretch the field. Flacco needs more weapons than Ray Rice coming out of the backfield
.
With no salary cap in 2010, I suggest they sign both Vicent Jackson AND Malcolm Floyd.
And that penalty on Ray Lewis in the endzone was total bullshit; a receiver isn't "defenseless" when he's attempting to score a touchdown. How the hell else are you supposed to separate him from the ball? Helmet to helmet, my black ass.
Ah well. Saints and Colts in the Super Bowl.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2010, 01:24:03 AM
And that penalty on Ray Lewis in the endzone was total bullshit; a receiver isn't "defenseless" when he's attempting to score a touchdown. How the hell else are you supposed to separate him from the ball? Helmet to helmet, my black ass.
That was the only penalty against the Ravens that you could have a legitimate complaint about. It has been called all year though; you just cannot hit QBs or receivers going for the ball in the head. It might be a horrible rule, but from what I have seen it has been called pretty regularly all year.
Quote from: sbr on January 17, 2010, 01:37:26 AMThat was the only penalty against the Ravens that you could have a legitimate complaint about.
It wouldn't have stopped Mr. Perfect from scoring anyway. Ugh, Manning was so dialed in on his precious little 7 yard slants, it was to the point of being obnoxious.
Have to hand it to the Colts. They were aggressive when they needed to be, and went for the jugular when they had the chance in the first half. 4th and 3, and pushed for the TD with 1:20 left in the first half: which I blame the Ravens offense, as that's 1:19 more than Mr. Perfect needs.
This game was over before halftime.
Oooh, look at Mr. Gracious in Defeat. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2010, 03:00:37 AM
Oooh, look at Mr. Gracious in Defeat. :rolleyes:
Stupid Manning :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2010, 01:24:03 AM
And that penalty on Ray Lewis in the endzone was total bullshit; a receiver isn't "defenseless" when he's attempting to score a touchdown. How the hell else are you supposed to separate him from the ball? Helmet to helmet, my black ass.
Ah well. Saints and Colts in the Super Bowl.
Refs have been making a lot of shitty calls this postseason, and not calling things they should have. Look at the Packers game last week: there was a pretty clear face pull on the Packers' last touchdown drive and nobody called it.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 17, 2010, 09:47:14 AMRefs have been making a lot of shitty calls this postseason, and not calling things they should have. Look at the Packers game last week: there was a pretty clear face pull on the Packers' last touchdown drive and nobody called it.
Meh, the penalty not called before that play was more egregious.
But, the league wants to accomplish two things:
1) Protect the (big name) QBs
2) Increase scoring
So, they're not going to be happy until they've totally neutered the defenses, and turn the NFL into the NBA.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2010, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 17, 2010, 09:47:14 AMRefs have been making a lot of shitty calls this postseason, and not calling things they should have. Look at the Packers game last week: there was a pretty clear face pull on the Packers' last touchdown drive and nobody called it.
Meh, the penalty not called before that play was more egregious.
But, the league wants to accomplish two things:
1) Protect the (big name) QBs
2) Increase scoring
So, they're not going to be happy until they've totally neutered the defenses, and turn the NFL into the NBA.
You think it's bad now, just wait until after the season after the lockout ends, in 2012 or 2013. In addition to the much-anticipated 'defence isn't part of the game' overtime rules, I would imagine we'll see a lot of calls designed to 'rebuild the brand'. Tackling the receiver? 15 yards, automatic first down. Sacking the quarterback? 15 yards, automatic first down. Putting eight in the box? Illegal formation, 5 yards, automatic first down. Jamming a receiver at the line of scrimmage? 5 yards, automatic first down.
Ed Reed is 50-50 on coming back next year. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ag.2p6PgQ3lyMVZcOnggeY5DubYF?slug=ap-ravens-reed&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Quote from: sbr on January 17, 2010, 11:18:47 AM
Ed Reed is 50-50 on coming back next year. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ag.2p6PgQ3lyMVZcOnggeY5DubYF?slug=ap-ravens-reed&prov=ap&type=lgns)
I think he'll play next year, but then won't come back after the lockout.
Too bad. That neck injury has really cut short a promising career.
Gaines Adams is dead. :huh:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4833908
Edit: None of the articles I'm looking at have any sort of info yet. Just happened a couple hours ago.
Rumor making the rounds is he died from a heart attack. :(
Drugs. :(
And now for the Forces of Evil game. Ideally the Cowboys will win with Romo badly injured in the 4th quarter.
Quote from: ulmont on January 17, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
And now for the Forces of Evil game. Ideally the Vikings will win with Favre badly injured in the 4th quarter.
fyp.
Viking-lovers aren't retarded assholes like Cowboy fans. They're just tainted by their association with Favre.
Yeah, but the Vikings have a better backup QB than the Cowboys.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
Quote from: ulmont on January 17, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
And now for the Forces of Evil game. Ideally the Vikings will win with Favre badly injured in the 4th quarter.
fyp.
Viking-lovers aren't retarded assholes like Cowboy fans. They're just tainted by their association with Favre.
I'm happy to be tainted by a man that can throw TDs like that. :cool:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2010, 01:24:03 AM
And that penalty on Ray Lewis in the endzone was total bullshit; a receiver isn't "defenseless" when he's attempting to score a touchdown. How the hell else are you supposed to separate him from the ball? Helmet to helmet, my black ass.
Yes, yes it was. I like the rule when it comes on a play where a receiver misses the ball and a player comes up after and goes for the head. It gets lame when he had the ball in his hands trying to make the catch especially in such an important game.
I wonder if it might not be the result of the hit Lewis put on Ochocinco. Ray-Ray likes to come in at the end of plays to lay the hammer down and the officials may have been looking for that.
I'd say I want both Favre and Homo to get injured, but I think Beebwagon will call me an Anti-theist again :(
Of course Romo can't hang on to the ball so the Cowboys are fucked. Maybe the Chargers game will be good.
Joe Buck is so dumb.
Edit: :lol: And Tony Romo just threw the worst pass ever.
I like that interpretation of "punter stepping on another player" as "running into the kicker".
I must admit I take great pleasure in watching the Cowboys get beaten.
Quote from: Liep on January 17, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
I must admit I take great pleasure in watching the Cowboys get beaten.
It's a wonderful thing.
Jerrah down on the sidelines trying to figure out who gets fired for this beatdown. :nelson:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 17, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Liep on January 17, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
I must admit I take great pleasure in watching the Cowboys get beaten.
It's a wonderful thing.
Isn't it. :cool:
And we'll get the matchup we wanted to see all year: New Orleans and Minnesota.
Who is "we"?
I know I didn't want it.
ahahaha
Why is Favre still in the game? :huh:
This I don't like.
Quote from: Barrister on January 17, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Why is Favre still in the game? :huh:
This I don't like.
Rosenfels would find a way to lose. Jackson might too...don't really know about him.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 03:55:09 PM
Who is "we"?
I know I didn't want it.
I just want Brett Favre to die.
It looks like the Vikings organization has no class. The shittiness of Favre is rubbing off on them. It's a shame. They used to be a class organization. :(
Even if it is the Cowboys that last TD was not classy at all.
Quote from: Liep on January 17, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
Even if it is the Cowboys that last TD was not classy at all.
They should have gone for two.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 17, 2010, 04:07:06 PM
They should have gone for two.
:lol: And an on side kick. Agreed not classy.
The Vikings are my team, I like Brett Favre, and I agree with the mob. Not classy.
The Cowboys deserve every ignominious thing that happens to them.
I can't decide who I want to win the Chargers - Jets game. I tend to like the Chargers as a team more than the Jets, but Philip Rivers is a huge tool.
Quote from: Scipio on January 17, 2010, 04:16:40 PM
The Cowboys deserve every ignominious thing that happens to them.
:yes:
The Sanchez media blitz is annoying, but the Jets as a whole are nowhere nears as bad as the Chargers or Vikings.
I'm gonna go ahead and root against Rivers but for the LT Slide Electric Glide.
:lol: Nice start there, Chargers.
Boger is reffing! Oh joy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 03:55:09 PM
Who is "we"?
I know I didn't want it.
Nice Don Cherry avatar!
The day Jim Leonhard left Baltimore was a sad day. That guy lives only to destroy.
That was a fumble. <_<
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
Boger is reffing! Oh joy.
And it looks like he's decided to use his retardation to help the Chargers.
Quote from: Vince on January 17, 2010, 05:41:41 PM
That was a fumble. <_<
Yeah, but they have the worst crew in the NFL reffing this game.
I thought this game would be a blowout. :huh:
Well on the plus side the SD crowd is so loud I can't hear Nantz or Simms.
Leonhard.
Quote from: Vince on January 17, 2010, 06:53:11 PM
Well on the plus side the SD crowd is so loud I can't hear Nantz or Simms.
Phil Simms would like you to know he is a better coach than anybody else.
I WOULDA CHALLANGED THE SPOT.
Someone please step up and stop the Jets from dumb-lucking their way into the AFC Championship game :yuk:
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 07:14:28 PM
Someone please step up and stop the Jets from dumb-lucking their way into the AFC Championship game :yuk:
I for one would much rather see Indy v Chargers than Indy v Jets.
Lol, Vernon Gholston's blocking on that punt return.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Lol, Vernon Gholston's blocking on that punt return.
They haven't kicked him out of the NFL for setting record new levels of suckage yet? :hmm:
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Lol, Vernon Gholston's blocking on that punt return.
They haven't kicked him out of the NFL for setting record new levels of suckage yet? :hmm:
He's toast in the uncapped year.
Beeb and Jacob get used to disappointment :)
Quote from: Barrister on January 17, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 07:14:28 PM
Someone please step up and stop the Jets from dumb-lucking their way into the AFC Championship game :yuk:
I for one would much rather see Indy v Chargers than Indy v Jets.
I for one would like to see only one evil team rather than two. Only the evil Vikings have to be beaten.
And the Jets are doing it. And it isn't Norv's fault. No matter how much Charger fan's whine, it's the shittiness of their team.
How about those J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets eh?
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Lol, Vernon Gholston's blocking on that punt return.
They haven't kicked him out of the NFL for setting record new levels of suckage yet? :hmm:
Yeah he sucks...they don't call him the Ghost for nothing
Quote from: Liep on January 17, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
Even if it is the Cowboys that last TD was not classy at all.
Anything that makes the cowgirls fans cry like the babies they are is perfectly classy.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
No Evil teams remains. :yeah:
Only the Saints are borderline but they still get posivite Karma points for Katrina.
:w00t:
It seems the Jets have some voodoo going that prevents opposing kickers from making FGs in the playoffs.
Quote from: Barrister on January 17, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
I for one would much rather see Indy v Chargers than Indy v Jets.
It will be interesting to watch Manning vs. the Jets defense.
So....Kaeding is in the Pro Bowl, eh?
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 17, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 07:14:28 PM
Someone please step up and stop the Jets from dumb-lucking their way into the AFC Championship game :yuk:
I for one would much rather see Indy v Chargers than Indy v Jets.
I for one would like to see only one evil team rather than two. Only the evil Vikings have to be beaten.
And the Jets are doing it. And it isn't Norv's fault. No matter how much Charger fan's whine, it's the shittiness of their team.
I blame Merriman for boinking that dwarf chinaman girl.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 17, 2010, 07:34:54 PM
So....Kaeding is in the Pro Bowl, eh?
Has there been any kicker in the league who hasn't sucked this year?
Other than Stover.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2010, 07:35:19 PM
I blame Merriman for boinking that dwarf chinaman girl.
Given that Merriman has been totally useless since he got busted for steroids, I don't think that matters.
Kicking the challenge flag is worth 15 fucking yards?
Quote from: ulmont on January 17, 2010, 07:41:37 PM
Kicking the challenge flag is worth 15 fucking yards?
Unsportsmanlike. He shouldn't be such a cunt. I know it's hard with Rivers as a role model, but there you go.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:39:41 PM
Has there been any kicker in the league who hasn't sucked this year?
Other than Stover.
Jay Feely. Otherwise, I don't think so. They all caught the suck or something.
Nice dumbassery by Jackson there after a really nice catch.
Edit: Feely was also punting it pretty well in the Jets - Cincy game (the playoff game).
Oh God I have a bad feeling...
EDIT: Never mind. :blush:
Norved.
I'm tired of Simms and his back seat coaching.
:lol:
Fuck the Chargers.
:cool:
Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
I'll be looking forward to the Jets manhandling Manning and his receivers.
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
Why? Is the total lack of skill by the Chargers his fault?
Jim Leonhard is the MVP.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
Norved.
Yep.
Anyway the Colts are the best team in the NFL, the upstart Jets have no chance. I say the Colts should be favored by 19.5.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 17, 2010, 07:30:43 PM
No Evil teams remains. :yeah:
You forget the Favres.
The Vikings are the team of the Gods.
Favre is an asshole, not evil. Different thing.
And Valmy, he certainly brought them to an excellent regular season record.
Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
Norved.
Yep.
Anyway the Colts are the best team in the NFL, the upstart Jets have no chance. I say the Colts should be favored by 19.5.
The Jets beat them before.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
Why? Is the total lack of skill by the Chargers his fault?
They turned the ball over more, were more sloppy in general, were penalized far more, showed too little energy in the first half and in general displayed what I would consider poorly coached teams to display.
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
Why? Is the total lack of skill by the Chargers his fault?
They turned the ball over more, were more sloppy in general, were penalized far more, showed too little energy in the first half and in general displayed what I would consider poorly coached teams to display.
And yet they dominated in the regular season.
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Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
Why? Is the total lack of skill by the Chargers his fault?
They turned the ball over more, were more sloppy in general, were penalized far more, showed too little energy in the first half and in general displayed what I would consider poorly coached teams to display.
And yet they dominated in the regular season.
Their division has some nice free wins built in and their homefield edge is sweet. That and regular season success has not always been a good forecast for well coached teams as Mangini at one time or another HAS had regular seasons success also ;)
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:09:11 PM
And Valmy, he certainly brought them to an excellent regular season record.
I dislike of Norv is mostly because he:
A. Is a Jimmy Johnson guy
B. Was a terrible Washington coach.
So I just like it when he fails. Whether or not it is deserved it not relevent.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
The Jets beat them before.
Yes they did:
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New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:25:45 PM
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Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Turner needs to get the Jim Zorn treatment and be fired as soon as he gets back home, although in this case that would be after he drives home and not after the team flies home. They should even have someone changing the locks on his office before he gets out of the locker room tonight. :showoff:
Why? Is the total lack of skill by the Chargers his fault?
They turned the ball over more, were more sloppy in general, were penalized far more, showed too little energy in the first half and in general displayed what I would consider poorly coached teams to display.
And yet they dominated in the regular season.
What is your stance: that Norv is a good coach, or that the Chargers do not have a talented roster?
Both of those ideas are completely contrary to all generally accepted wisdom.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2010, 08:30:20 PM
New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
Root for an asteroid to hit the stadium during the game.
Only one decent team worth rooting for left.
Go Nawlins!
Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
B. Was a terrible Washington coach.
How many non-terrible Washington coaches have their been in the modern era?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2010, 08:30:20 PM
New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
I love the fact that New England has to watch quite possibly the two teams it hates the most in the AFC Title Game. :P
So I'm definitely a Vikes fan, but who can possibly hate either the Colts (except for Seedy) or the Saints? :huh:
Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2010, 08:30:20 PM
New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
Root for an asteroid to hit the stadium during the game.
Or for the Saints and Vikings game to be so insanely awesome the NFL decides to let those two teams replay each other in the Super Bowl. :cool:
Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:29:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
The Jets beat them before.
Yes they did:
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All we need is Sanchez guaranteeing a victory
Quote from: sbr on January 17, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
What is your stance: that Norv is a good coach, or that the Chargers do not have a talented roster?
Both of those ideas are completely contrary to all generally accepted wisdom.
Norv is fairly good coach. As for the Chargers, they have a good QB, but their RBs are weak (Sproles is small, and not in the good Jones-Drew/Rice way, Tomlinson is used up) and their receivers are a gimmick (their tall guys aren't so good if they aren't permitted to run free and victimize short DBs). Their defence is totally dependent on Jamal Williams, although Jammer has some talent. Their pass rush is non-existant ever since they made Merriman take a break on the juice. Other than Jamal Williams, the only truly first-rate player they have is Scifres, and maybe asshole Rivers.
Quote from: katmai on January 17, 2010, 08:34:42 PM
Only one decent team worth rooting for left.
Go Nawlins!
Who Dat! :showoff:
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Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2010, 08:30:20 PM
New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
Root for an asteroid to hit the stadium during the game.
Or for the Saints and Vikings game to be so insanely awesome the NFL decides to let those two teams replay each other in the Super Bowl. :cool:
Favre must not play in a Superbowl.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:35:36 PM
How many non-terrible Washington coaches have their been in the modern era?
Marty and Joe Gibbs.
Zorn wasn't terrible but he wasn't ready to be a big time coach either. Norv was just dogshit but fortunately for him the ownership was in total disarray so there was nobody around to fire him. To be fair though Charlie Casserly had a big role to play in Norv's terrible teams...but man whenever a big play needed to be made you knew Norv's teams would fold like a cheap tent. He was also great at taking good talents and making them be underachievers. Norv is, or at least was, practically the master at coaxing underachievement.
Anyone else check out the 60 Minutes story on American Samoa right after the game? Total population 65,000, they have 30 guys in the NFL and 100 in Div I.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2010, 08:59:39 PM
Anyone else check out the 60 Minutes story on American Samoa right after the game? Total population 65,000, they have 30 guys in the NFL and 100 in Div I.
Yeah, Samoans are all big motherfuckers.
Too many of them getting involved with gangs up here.
:(
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 08:44:20 PM
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Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2010, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2010, 08:30:20 PM
New York must be opposed at every turn, but the Colts are the spawn of the Devil! I don't know who to root for. :weep:
Root for an asteroid to hit the stadium during the game.
Or for the Saints and Vikings game to be so insanely awesome the NFL decides to let those two teams replay each other in the Super Bowl. :cool:
Favre must not play in a Superbowl.
You know something about Superbowl history I don't? I seem to recall a Favre in a superbowl or 2 :P
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
You know something about Superbowl history I don't? I seem to recall a Favre in a superbowl or 2 :P
That was before he became a mercenary faggot, and turned the Vikings faithful into a new generation of Patriotards.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2010, 08:59:39 PM
Anyone else check out the 60 Minutes story on American Samoa right after the game? Total population 65,000, they have 30 guys in the NFL and 100 in Div I.
Yeah, that was a great piece.
Had no idea how much poverty there is, though. And why the hell aren't all these Samoan pro football players getting their old high schools new equipment? Happens all the time in the 'hood, why not the islands?
Half of the NFL guys grew up in states not on the island.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 17, 2010, 09:18:13 PM
Yeah, that was a great piece.
Had no idea how much poverty there is, though. And why the hell aren't all these Samoan pro football players getting their old high schools new equipment? Happens all the time in the 'hood, why not the islands?
The tsunami demolition derby was a nice bonus, wasn't it?
The school with the real shit gear was the Votech, maybe no sugar daddy went there.
And here's a question: only one Votech on the islands, who do they play against?
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
You know something about Superbowl history I don't? I seem to recall a Favre in a superbowl or 2 :P
That was before he became a mercenary faggot, and turned the Vikings faithful into a new generation of Patriotards.
.....fair enough
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
You know something about Superbowl history I don't? I seem to recall a Favre in a superbowl or 2 :P
That was before he became a mercenary faggot, and turned the Vikings faithful into a new generation of Patriotards.
You have to blame the Packers brass for that situation. He's a Vikings to rob it in their collective faces. All 33k owners.
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Quote from: JacobL on January 17, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
You know something about Superbowl history I don't? I seem to recall a Favre in a superbowl or 2 :P
That was before he became a mercenary faggot, and turned the Vikings faithful into a new generation of Patriotards.
You have to blame the Packers brass for that situation. He's a Vikings to rob it in their collective faces. All 33k owners.
No I don't. "I retire. No, I unretire."
He's a Viking because he's a no-class piece of hillbilly trash.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
No I don't. "I retire. No, I unretire."
He's a Viking because he's a no-class piece of hillbilly trash.
This.
And when the fuck did every Canadian become a Vikings fan? BeebWagoners <_<
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 17, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
And when the fuck did every Canadian become a Vikings fan? BeebWagoners <_<
They do speak very similar languages.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 17, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
No I don't. "I retire. No, I unretire."
He's a Viking because he's a no-class piece of hillbilly trash.
This.
And when the fuck did every Canadian become a Vikings fan? BeebWagoners <_<
I grew up an 8 hour drive from Minneapolis. The DU brothers of the Minnesota chapter were very welcoming, and I took many a road trip down there during university.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 17, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
And when the fuck did every Canadian become a Vikings fan? BeebWagoners <_<
The Vikings and Packers are the traditional teams of choice in Western Canada. Moreso the Vikings.
Is that hunting horn thing they do at Vikings games new? First time I've noticed it. Pretty cool.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2010, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 17, 2010, 07:34:54 PM
So....Kaeding is in the Pro Bowl, eh?
Has there been any kicker in the league who hasn't sucked this year?
Other than Stover.
Janikowski had a great year. Also, go Saints!
Jesus Judas, get your head out of your ass, I know the correct spelling :lol:
:lol: Sucker! It's bad enough you combined my name on here with his, but you misspelled it too!? Unforgivable! Now, if I'd been changed back to Benedict Arnold here, it wouldn't be an issue.
Quote from: Syt on January 12, 2010, 10:48:37 AM
The layman's prediction:
Jets over Chargers
Ravens over Colts
Cowboys over Vikings
Saints over Cardinals
2 out of 2. Meh.
Next:
Jets over Colts
Saints over Vikings
(That'll be 0/2 :P )
Quote from: Syt on January 18, 2010, 02:31:45 AM
Next:
Jets over Colts
Saints over Vikings
I'm picking the same. 7/8 so far, damn Ravens.
Colts trample the Ravens, Saints bleed the Cards, Vikings give Jerry Jones an extra-special assfucking, and the Chargers were Norved.
What a weekend.
I still say Colts-Saints for the whole enchilada.
6-2.
Stupid Cards.
You guys are picking the Jets over the Colts? I just don't see it. Manning was flat against the Ravens because of the bye. I figure the Colts are better by about 9.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 18, 2010, 08:05:42 AM
You guys are picking the Jets over the Colts? I just don't see it. Manning was flat against the Ravens because of the bye. I figure the Colts are better by about 9.
I don't see how Manning could've been considered flat at all against the Ravens. He was a fucking scapel.
That's why their running game was ranked 24th in the league; they don't need a running game. Manning's small ball is their running game.
While you have to give the Jets a fighter's chance it's awfully hard to actually predict they're going to win. I'm picking the Colts.
Saints / Vikes is the interesting matchup. I'm going full-on homer and picking Minnesota.
So after a disasterous oh for four on wildcard weekend, I went three for four last weekend to pull myself to 3 for 8.
Brain Westbrook may call it quits. (http://"http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-hasbrianwestbrookpla&prov=tsn&type=lgns")
His knee, not the concussions.
People have probably already said it, havent read the thread since before the weekend, but finally the Vikings beat the Cowboys in a playoff game.
Not only beat them but humiliated them. They could not run the score up enough in this one.
I hope Neil is flooded by images of Viking goodness.
QuoteDid you hear Nate Kaeding tried to hang himself last night? He got the noose around his neck, but he couldn't kick the chair.
Did you hear Nate Kaeding tried to shoot himself last night? The bullet was wide right.
Did you hear Nate Kaeding tried to swallow a bottle of sleeping pills last night? He choked on the first three.
Did you hear Nate Kaeding tried to throw himself into a volcano yesterday? He was going to take a flight to Hawaii, but he missed it.
Did you hear Nate Kaeding tried to slit his wrists with piano wire? He couldn't get his hands inside the upright.
I was reading a sports illustrated in the Doctor's Office today and they said the Charges kicking game was the reason they would win the Super Bowl.
Quote from: Valmy on January 18, 2010, 05:35:20 PM
I was reading a sports illustrated in the Doctor's Office today and they said the Charges kicking game was the reason they would win the Super Bowl.
:face:
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
I hope Neil is flooded by images of Viking goodness.
There's no such thing anymore. Unless you're referring to anything that happened to the Vikings before Favre came to town.
Quote from: Neil on January 18, 2010, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
I hope Neil is flooded by images of Viking goodness.
There's no such thing anymore. Unless you're referring to anything that happened to the Vikings before Favre came to town.
I dunno, the images of the Vikings performing a savage beat-down on the Cowboys looked pretty good to me... :)
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 06:10:36 PM
I dunno, the images of the Vikings performing a savage beat-down on the Cowboys looked pretty good to me... :)
That's because you have no class, BarristerOrtiz.
So, are the Vikings going to break the deadlock and make it 5 for 5 in Superbowls?
Quote from: PDH on January 18, 2010, 06:13:59 PM
So, are the Vikings going to break the deadlock and make it 5 for 5 in Superbowls?
Probably wont make it past Who Dat. Doesnt matter though. They beat the hated Cowboys and that is all that really matters.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2010, 06:26:45 PM
Quote from: PDH on January 18, 2010, 06:13:59 PM
So, are the Vikings going to break the deadlock and make it 5 for 5 in Superbowls?
Probably wont make it past Who Dat. Doesnt matter though. They beat the hated Cowboys and that is all that really matters.
I can live with that. Just so long as Favre isn't allowed near a Superbowl.
Quote from: Neil on January 18, 2010, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 06:10:36 PM
I dunno, the images of the Vikings performing a savage beat-down on the Cowboys looked pretty good to me... :)
That's because you have no class, BarristerOrtiz.
I'll jump on any badnwagon that gives the Vikings a shot to win.
If T.O. signs with the Vikings I'll even say something positive about him. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 18, 2010, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 06:10:36 PM
I dunno, the images of the Vikings performing a savage beat-down on the Cowboys looked pretty good to me... :)
That's because you have no class, BarristerOrtiz.
I'll jump on any badnwagon that gives the Vikings a shot to win.
If T.O. signs with the Vikings I'll even say something positive about him. :cool:
You sicken me.
At least I don't cheer for Satan.
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
At least I don't cheer for Satan.
Nothing wrong with Satan. I am not afflicted with your Christianity. One god is much the same as another.
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
At least I don't cheer for Satan.
TBR VIOLATION! CLEAR TEH AIRE! PURGE! PURGE!
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 18, 2010, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
At least I don't cheer for Satan.
TBR VIOLATION! CLEAR TEH AIRE! PURGE! PURGE!
I realized what I had done moments after posting.
Then I decided: fuck it. :menace:
The People(tm) have the right to know.
ED ANGER WORSHIPS THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS!!!11111
Death to Murder Boner.
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 18, 2010, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
At least I don't cheer for Satan.
TBR VIOLATION! CLEAR TEH AIRE! PURGE! PURGE!
I realized what I had done moments after posting.
Then I decided: fuck it. :menace:
The People(tm) have the right to know.
ED ANGER WORSHIPS THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS!!!11111
And his +3.
If PDH wants to, I'll let him call for your purge.
What's the better story? The Rookie QB going to the Superbowl or the Oldest QB to make it?
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 19, 2010, 08:06:26 AM
What's the better story? The Rookie QB going to the Superbowl or the Oldest QB to make it?
Grandpa. To be a good story Sanchez needs to throw more than 4 yard slants and swing passes.
QuoteSome Chargers partied on Friday night
Posted by Mike Florio on January 20, 2010 10:40 PM ET
As the Chargers prepared to play a division-round playoff against a highly-motivated opponent last Sunday, they spent some of the time they arguably should have been resting up for the game by partying.
In a Mailbag feature for the San Diego Union-Tribune, Kevin Acee acknowledges that "some players were out" from "Friday night into Saturday morning."
He agreed that it is "disappointing," but Acee pointed out that it happened 36 hours before kickoff.
"They're young, single men," Acee explained. "Would you love everyone to be Philip Rivers? Absolutely. They're not."
It probably wouldn't have made a difference if they'd stayed in. But the fact that they saw fit to go out two nights before the biggest game of the season speaks to a mindset that makes the loss more understandable in hindsight.
hmmmm
1/24 3:00 ET At Indianapolis -8.5 NY Jets
1/24 6:40 ET At New Orleans -3.5 Minnesota
Out of my ass I said Indy by 9. :worthy:
Let's Go Vikes!
It will be what it will be, but I want to see Manning versus Favre for the whole enchilada.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 24, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
It will be what it will be, but I want to see Manning versus Favre for the whole enchilada.
You mean Manning vs. Brees. All fucking Favreheads must fucking hang.
I think the Jets have a decent chance. They're a lot like the Ravens, and so should be able to slow the Colts, but their wideouts are more dynamic, which will help their young QB out. The key will be the play of the most dynamic playmaker on either defence of the ball: Jim Leonhard. As he goes, so go the fortunes of the Jets.
Quote from: Neil on January 24, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 24, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
It will be what it will be, but I want to see Manning versus Favre for the whole enchilada.
You mean Manning vs. Brees. All fucking Favreheads must fucking hang.
:yes: :contract:
Quote from: Neil on January 24, 2010, 01:34:15 PMI think the Jets have a decent chance. They're a lot like the Ravens, and so should be able to slow the Colts, but their wideouts are more dynamic, which will help their young QB out. The key will be the play of the most dynamic playmaker on either defence of the ball: Jim Leonhard. As he goes, so go the fortunes of the Jets.
Not happening. Sorry.
I caught a bit of Austrian station Puls4's pregame coverage. Nothing more jarring than having American sports discussed in German with heavy Austrian accents. I think I'll rather watch this on ESPN.
Quote from: Syt on January 24, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
I caught a bit of Austrian station Puls4's pregame coverage. Nothing more jarring than having American sports discussed in German with heavy Austrian accents. I think I'll rather watch this on ESPN.
I got a kick out of watching Expos in French when I was in Quebec.
I'm wearing my blue Dallas Clark jersey.
If the Jets had Nuge, they would have 3 points there.
NUUUUUUGE.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 24, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: Syt on January 24, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
I caught a bit of Austrian station Puls4's pregame coverage. Nothing more jarring than having American sports discussed in German with heavy Austrian accents. I think I'll rather watch this on ESPN.
I got a kick out of watching Expos in French when I was in Quebec.
Well, that sounds more bearable.
I just switched back to the Austrian station for comparison ... they seem to have lost the live feed and instead answer viewer questions. "Why the black under the eyes?"
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 24, 2010, 03:19:03 PM
If the Jets had Nuge, they would have 3 points there.
NUUUUUUGE.
No he'd still miss and it'd be followed up by me posting:
DAMMIT NUGE!!!!!
:bash:
:frusty:
:bleeding:
:thumbsdown:
:ultra:
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 24, 2010, 03:19:03 PM
If the Jets had Nuge, they would have 3 points there.
NUUUUUUGE.
Wasn't Nugent the least accurate kicker in NFL history?
A team would be better off bringing back Flutie to drop-kick their field goals than relying on that loser.
Holy Screaming Shit Sheep Braylon Edwards caught a damn TD for once! :cool:
I'm glad Manning is losing. nothing against him, but it means the announcers are less annoying.
Quote from: HVC on January 24, 2010, 04:13:54 PM
I'm glad Manning is losing. nothing against im, but it means the announcers are less annoying.
It's a no-win situation. Either they'll gush over Manning in the Superbowl, or over the rookie who made it to the Superbowl. Add to that some Favre cocksucking and you see why I'll root for the Saints.
Angerbutt taint?
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 24, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 24, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Angerbutt taint?
I've turned into Tim. :cry:
Right down to the crippled leg. And you're breeding worse than any Rican.
THAT'S IT.
<ragequit>
be back in 12 hours.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 24, 2010, 04:26:44 PM
THAT'S IT.
be back in 12 hours.
That's one seriously epic bowel movement.
<_< Damn Jets just had to give up that TD at the end of the half.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 24, 2010, 04:33:54 PM
<_< Damn Jets just had to give up that TD at the end of the half.
They fell apart on the TD catch but the one before was great coverage with an unbelievable throw.
Colts look like they're handling the Jets run pretty well. Can't expect the Jets to pull too many more 40 yard strikes out of their asses.
Where did Jets' secondary go?
This ain't looking good. Shonne Greene is out and the Jets just aren't pressuring Manning.
:bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on January 24, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Angerbutt taint?
BWHAHAHAHAHA!
I am jimmy the greek reborn! ALL WORSHIP ME!
NICE, I hate the Jets. :cool:
And now the game I've been waiting for all week.
Go Vikings. Go Favre. :cool:
Favre going to the Big Game would make a great story and I wouldn't mind seeing him win over the Saints but I think Fabreeze is going to win and cover.
I'm going to skip the Favre masturbation fest.
Geaux Saints!
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Quote from: Caliga on January 24, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
NICE, I hate the Jets. :cool:
At least they sent the Bengals home first. :P
I am rooting for the Saints, because like my esteemed colleague Mr. Anger, I too am sick of Favre.
Quote from: Vince on January 24, 2010, 06:33:52 PM
At least they sent the Bengals home first. :P
Bah, it was bound to happen anyway. :blush:
The game was over when Shonne Greene left hurt. TJ just couldn't deliver by himself and that no call for roughing the passer didn't help either.
Oh well I said at the beginning with the season I'd be thrilled with 8-8 so this year was a nice surprise.
Practically the entire city I live in is rooting for the Saints because Will Smith is from here.
Quote from: ulmont on January 24, 2010, 06:26:59 PM
Geaux Saints!
This, Who Dat and all the other malarkey. At anyrate I want to see 8+ passing TDs from this game.
Quote from: Vince on January 24, 2010, 06:38:28 PM
Practically the entire city I live in is rooting for the Saints because Will Smith is from here.
:cheers: Utica baby!
Quote from: Liep on January 24, 2010, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: ulmont on January 24, 2010, 06:26:59 PM
Geaux Saints!
This, Who Dat and all the other malarkey. At anyrate I want to see 8+ passing TDs from this game.
So far its been rushing tds.
Quote from: citizen k on January 24, 2010, 07:05:14 PM
So far its been rushing tds.
Yeah :( although screen passes counts for QBs, no? Anyhoo, this already reminds me more of a penalty shoot out, who'll miss first?! :o
Quote from: Liep on January 24, 2010, 07:09:11 PM
Yeah :( although screen passes counts for QBs, no? Anyhoo, this already reminds me more of a penalty shoot out, who'll miss first?! :o
Yeah that's a touchdown pass for Breesus.
Quote from: Vince on January 24, 2010, 06:33:52 PM
Quote from: Caliga on January 24, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
NICE, I hate the Jets. :cool:
At least they sent the Bengals home first. :P
I don't hate the Jets, but Rex Ryan has been getting on my nerves.
Oh, and I guess Beeb & I are the only ones who don't hate Favre? Anyway, go Vikes :)
3 possessions, 3 TDs. :cool:
Bullshit call.
Watching Sad Favre get up is the best part of this game.
He faked it for the PR.
Holy shit this game is awesome. :cool:
Vikes just got Favre'd!
Jesus what a game.
The only way this game could be better is if that had been a pick 6 to end Favre's career. Overtime is cool too though.
Nice gunsling by Favre to end regulation.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 24, 2010, 09:59:36 PM
The only way this game could be better is if that had been a pick 6 to end Favre's career. Overtime is cool too though.
Yeah, but then he'd retire, and feel bad about that being how his career ended, so he's un-retire AGAIN. :mad:
Delicious. Run the ball a few more times and then kick a FG, Saints.
Yessssss. Favre's last snap of the season was a pick. Now retire and fuck off, Brett.
:yeah: WAY TO GO NAWLINS!
That kick would've been good from a lot further out.
Oh when the Saints go marching in oh when the Saints go marching in oh Lord I want to be in that number oh when the Saints go marching in.
Suck it CDM and your playoff choke prediction.
Saints! Wooo!
I've been watching my language around Tommy lately, knowing that since he turns 2 tomorrow he's absorbing more & more from what he hears.
So it came as a surprise to me that, after the Saints returned the OT kickoff back to the ~40 yard line, he yelled "OH F*CK". I tried to do the trick where you repeat it as a slightly different word in an attempt to trick them into using that word, and he kept correcting me.
It's one of those things where you're horrified, but can't get mad at them & end up just trying to hold back laughter.
Thankfully he dropped it, and went on to tell me how he thought the Saints emblem was a spider.
Tommy is a Vikings fan?
Time to get the belt out, spiess. :menace:
Quote from: ulmont on January 24, 2010, 10:23:50 PM
Suck it CDM and your playoff choke prediction.
:P Obviously, my prediction was overpowered by an even more Immutable Law of Football; namely, you live by the Favre, you die by the Favre.
I anticipate a shoot-out in Miami. First team to 40 wins.
Go Saints. Beat Indy.
Quote from: Caliga on January 24, 2010, 10:30:40 PM
Tommy is a Vikings fan?
Time to get the belt out, spiess. :menace:
I think he picked up on the fact that I was rooting for them. Or it was totally random. But he said it at the exact moment I was thinking it-- creepy.
So much for having 2 midwestern teams in the Super Bowl. Oh well, go Indy.
:weep:
:cry:
But what can you say, that was ONE HELL of a football game. :yeah:
And yes, the haters are going to say that Favre cost them the game because of the final interception. And yes, it was a bad throw. But was that what cost them the game? What about the 2 (or was it 3) Adrian Peterson fumbles? Ball control was obviously poor for the Vikes.
And on the other side, the Vikes owned the Saints in total yards and time of possession, but the Saints discipline bit them in the ass several times. I looked it up - the Saints had 9 penalties for 88 yards. That's brutal.
What can you say - the game went into OT. The teams were evenly matched, and the team that won the coin toss won the game. But I refuse to complain about the OT rules. You don't want to go into OT, you should score more points in regulation.
Congrats to Nawlins.
Man - Indy vs New Orleans. I really am neutral on both teams, but I am quite the fan of both QBs. It should be a great game. :cool:
And yes, as a Vikes fan, I'm counting on 7 months of 'will he or won't he' talk from Favre. Ah well, I guess he's earned it. :rolleyes: :shrug:
The Favre tears made it perfect. We tortured my buddy with our joy. When they helped him limp off the field, I made sure to pause it so we could all take pictures with our phones. :menace:
Good bye Favre, retire already.....no really this time.
3 fumbles by peterson, I was embarrassed for him. Really good hussle getting his last one back though.
Did anybody else think the Saints were really flat? They played real...average the whole game while the Vikings had all the big plays and nail-biting moments.
Quote from: Barrister on January 24, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
And yes, the haters are going to say that Favre cost them the game because of the final interception. And yes, it was a bad throw. But was that what cost them the game?
Yes.
He runs, gets a few yards and runs out of bounds, with time left and decent field goal position.
But no...typical Favre decision. I CAN DO IT AINT WE HAVING FUN IN MAH WRANGLERS
You live by the Favre, you die by the Favre.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 24, 2010, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 24, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
And yes, the haters are going to say that Favre cost them the game because of the final interception. And yes, it was a bad throw. But was that what cost them the game?
Yes.
He runs, gets a few yards and runs out of bounds, with time left and decent field goal position.
But no...typical Favre decision. I CAN DO IT AINT WE HAVING FUN IN MAH WRANGLERS
You live by the Favre, you die by the Favre.
On the one hand, yes. If he hadn't thrown that pic, there's a good chance they could have scored a last-second field goal.
But if any of the other turnovers hadn't have happened, there's a good chance he wouldn't have needed to be making that final 2 minute drive. You can't over-emphasize the last 2 minutes and forget the earlier 58.
Quote from: Barrister on January 24, 2010, 11:16:34 PM
You can't over-emphasize the last 2 minutes and forget the earlier 58.
Uh, yeah you can. Because, regardless of what happened the the earlier 58 minutes, fact is THEY WERE IN THE POSITION TO WIN THE GAME. And they got Favre'd. Fin.
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Edit: That's better. The font is about the same size now in all the bubbles. :rolleyes:
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Edit: That's better. The font is about the same size now in all the bubbles. :rolleyes:
Dumbass. I already emailed the first version to all my Favre-fan friends.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 24, 2010, 11:54:08 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 24, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
Edit: That's better. The font is about the same size now in all the bubbles. :rolleyes:
Dumbass. I already emailed the first version to all my Favre-fan friends.
:lol: They both work.
Great game with the right team winning. :yeah:
The Saints were terrible most of the game, but the Vikings turnovers kept them in it. It was great to see Farve end an NFC Championship game with a pick for the second time in three years. :lmfao:
That Vike's D was amazing though, they should be pissed at Favre and Peterson.
Two #1 seeds facing off for the championship. This is a good result. Really, the only thing that counted was that Favre failed.
Should be a great Super Bowl; based on the way the Saints covered Shiancoe I am calling the Super Bowl MVP for Dallas Clark. :yes:
Quote from: sbr on January 25, 2010, 12:25:41 AM
Should be a great Super Bowl; based on the way the Saints covered Shiancoe I am calling the Super Bowl MVP for Dallas Clark. :yes:
The way Colts let Sanchez play a good game I'm calling the Super Bowl MVP for Drew Brees. :yes:
Payton Manning for Super Bowl MVP since his last min 98 yards 4 plays touchdown drive will win the game.
Quote from: Liep on January 25, 2010, 02:58:07 AM
The way Colts let Sanchez play a good game I'm calling the Super Bowl MVP for Drew Brees. :yes:
I don't think that's fair. The Colts got beat badly on two pass plays but most of the time it was Sanchez making good or great throws. The defender can't stand on all four sides of the reciever at the same time.
I do expect the Jets to have a lot more confidence in Sanchez next year.
Quote from: Liep on January 25, 2010, 02:58:07 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 25, 2010, 12:25:41 AM
Should be a great Super Bowl; based on the way the Saints covered Shiancoe I am calling the Super Bowl MVP for Dallas Clark. :yes:
The way Colts let Sanchez play a good game I'm calling the Super Bowl MVP for Drew Brees. :yes:
I didn't think he played all that well, outside of a couple of throws as Yi said. Barely completing 50% of your passes(17-30) is not really acceptable.
Quote from: Liep on January 25, 2010, 02:58:07 AM
The way Colts let Sanchez play a good game I'm calling the Super Bowl MVP for Drew Brees. :yes:
I'd have to disagree. Sanchez had a good game until the 2nd half. The Colts made the required adjustments and shut the door on Sanchez. Which doesn't bode well for the Saints because it was clear from yesterday's games that the Colts made the changes required of a Championship team when they came out in the 2nd half while the Saints offense withered away against the Vikings. The only thing that kept them in the game was the Vikings continually turning over the football.
The Saints deserve a lot of praise and accolades this season but backing into the Superbowl like they did doesn't inspire confidence.
The Colts should win 35-24. Wayne or Clark will deserve the MVP but Manning will get it.
This is a huge game for Manning. A victory here will soldify his legacy as one of the greatest of all time.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
This is a huge game for Manning. A victory here will soldify his legacy as one of the greatest of all time.
Pffft he will still be 2nd tier along with the likes of Favre.
Quote from: Strix on January 25, 2010, 10:45:31 AMWhich doesn't bode well for the Saints because it was clear from yesterday's games that the Colts made the changes required of a Championship team when they came out in the 2nd half while the Saints offense withered away against the Vikings. The only thing that kept them in the game was the Vikings continually turning over the football.
Ah, yes, "withering." Scoring the same number of points each quarter now is "withering" in the second half. :yawn:
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
This is a huge game for Manning. A victory here will soldify his legacy as one of the greatest of all time.
Pffft he will still be 2nd tier along with the likes of Favre.
That's enough out of you, Niners Fanboi. The list of the all-time greats doesn't start with Montana and end with Young. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
This is a huge game for Manning. A victory here will soldify his legacy as one of the greatest of all time.
Pffft he will still be 2nd tier along with the likes of Favre.
That's enough out of you, Niners Fanboi. The list of the all-time greats doesn't start with Montana and end with Young. :rolleyes:
It has Elway and Starr in there as well over Young.
Oh and Unitas.
When his Career is done Manning will be greater.
Too bad for you.
How can anyone have anything against Peyton Manning? :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 12:37:11 PM
How can anyone have anything against Peyton Manning? :huh:
Fetus face is almost as overexposed as Brett Favre. He also plays in the same division as my team.
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 12:37:11 PM
How can anyone have anything against Peyton Manning? :huh:
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
As it stands he has won
one Super Bowl. And if they win in 13 days he still will only match Ben Roethlisberger, Bob Griese and Roger Staubach to name a few in leading his team to two Super Bowl wins.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Valmy I understand you being from Texas, that i need to use small words, but if you quote rest of my post you answer your own question.
:P
Give him time, he could win 4 or maybe 5!
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 25, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
Give him time, he could win 4 or maybe 5!
He might, but as of right now he might win his 2nd and If the Saints pull off upset he will only have 1.
The refs can't possibly allow that.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Valmy I understand you being from Texas, that i need to use small words, but if you quote rest of my post you answer your own question.
:P
Yeah calling a 4 time NFL MVP, 5 time first team all pro, 10 time pro bowl selection, Super Bowl MVP with a 95+ career QB rating with a whole shit load of NFL records as possible among the greatest of all time is hyerbole. Oh wait...not it isn't it is simply common sense.
Since my very point was that he needs to win a few Super Bowls to solidify that position, accusing me of hyperbole since he has not won enough Super Bowls is agreeing with me not saying something 'despite my hyperbole'.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Valmy I understand you being from Texas, that i need to use small words, but if you quote rest of my post you answer your own question.
:P
whole shit load of NFL records as possible among the greatest of all time is hyerbole.
Considering the changes to game in last 10 years NFL records for passing and receiving are a joke.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
Considering the changes to game in last 10 years NFL records for passing and receiving are a joke.
Pfft Sammy Baugh and Johnny Unitas fans probably said the same about Young and Montana's records.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
Considering the changes to game in last 10 years NFL records for passing and receiving are a joke.
Pfft Sammy Baugh and Johnny Unitas fans probably said the same about Young and Montana's records.
And?
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 01:12:28 PM
And?
And he will say the same about that new guy who all the commentators fellate in 10 years. Circle of life and all that? What I'm saying is: you old Kat, you old.
Quote from: Liep on January 25, 2010, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 01:12:28 PM
And?
And he will say the same about that new guy who all the commentators fellate in 10 years. Circle of life and all that? What I'm saying is: you old Kat, you old.
Yes i am old, and I'll glady get behind calling Manning one of the greats...when he has won two more Superbowls :P
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
Yes i am old, and I'll glady get behind calling Manning one of the greats...when he has won two more Superbowls :P
Hence why this is a huge game for him. He needs to win it to help with his legacy. Presuming Manning worries about that sort of thing.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
Hence why this is a huge game for him. He needs to win it to help with his legacy. Presuming Manning worries about that sort of thing.
If he wasn't competitive enough to worry about that sort of thing, he wouldn't be in the position he's in now.
I do agree that he's on track to be "one of the greatest" though.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
Yes i am old, and I'll glady get behind calling Manning one of the greats...when he has won two more Superbowls :P
Hence why this is a huge game for him. He needs to win it to help with his legacy. Presuming Manning worries about that sort of thing.
From what I've read he absolutely worries about that sort of thing. Laid back he is not.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
As it stands he has won one Super Bowl. And if they win in 13 days he still will only match Ben Roethlisberger, Bob Griese and Roger Staubach to name a few in leading his team to two Super Bowl wins.
But one more than Dan Marino, so shut your mouth.
Yeah I'm not sure how much winning a superbowl, or multiple superbowls, should count towards being the best of the best. Plenty of shitty QBs have won the Superbowl, even multiple times. Some great QBs have never won it. It's still a team game, and while the QB has more impact on the outcome of the game than any other player on the field, they're still only 1 of 11 people on the field (and even then only half the time).
Dan Marino is still great despite not winning, right?
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
As it stands he has won one Super Bowl. And if they win in 13 days he still will only match Ben Roethlisberger, Bob Griese and Roger Staubach to name a few in leading his team to two Super Bowl wins.
But one more than Dan Marino, so shut your mouth.
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
Nope
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
There is joke of the century. Marino couldn't even get his team to the Super Bowl in an era when the AFC was terrible.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
There is joke of the century. Marino couldn't even get his team to the Super Bowl in an era when the AFC was terrible.
Super Bowl XIX?
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
Marino never threw an interception that wasn't his recievers' fault. He's a dick. And not fit to carry Elway's jock. Or Isotoner gloves.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
Marino never threw an interception that wasn't his recievers' fault. He's a dick. And not fit to carry Elway's jock. Or Isotoner gloves.
I knew there was still good in you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
Did i say Marino was up there with those guys, you fucking moron.
Marino is greater than any of those guys, despite his 0 Superbowl wins.
Marino never threw an interception that wasn't his recievers' fault. He's a dick. And not fit to carry Elway's jock. Or Isotoner gloves.
So being great player means being a nice person?
Since when?
I'm sure, say, Sage Rosenfels is a wonderful human being. I'd still rather have Favre dick the Vikings around for 8 months and come back in 2010 than have Rosenfels as our QB.
Because the Vikings didn't win the north last year and get booted out of the playoffs. What's changed? Other than having tons of people hate your team now for taking on Favre?
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 06:17:08 PMI'd still rather have Favre dick the Vikings around for 8 months and come back in 2010 than have Rosenfels as our QB.
Pfft. If you're gonna choke your team, don't throw a pick; that's sooo pedestrian. Anybody can do that.
If my team's going to implode, I want it to implode SPECTACULARLY.
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Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 25, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
Because the Vikings didn't win the north last year and get booted out of the playoffs. What's changed? Other than having tons of people hate your team now for taking on Favre?
At least they won a playoff game, which is one step up from last year.
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 25, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
Because the Vikings didn't win the north last year and get booted out of the playoffs. What's changed? Other than having tons of people hate your team now for taking on Favre?
At least they won a playoff game, which is one step up from last year.
Two steps up: they got a first round bye, and then won a game.
Looks like I have to root for the Saints, the Colts can't be allowed to win another Superbowl.
YAY! TAINT AVERTED.
FUCK.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2010, 07:05:09 PM
Looks like I have to root for the Saints, the Colts can't be allowed to win another Superbowl.
Why the hell not? :rolleyes:
Colts-Pats rivalry.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 25, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
There is joke of the century. Marino couldn't even get his team to the Super Bowl in an era when the AFC was terrible.
Super Bowl XIX?
Yes a glorious moment for Dan Marino, he was the greatest quarterback to ever be dominated by the Niner defense.
The fact is that started a string of 13 years of AFC ineptitude that Marino was not even able to participate in.
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on January 25, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
There is joke of the century. Marino couldn't even get his team to the Super Bowl in an era when the AFC was terrible.
Super Bowl XIX?
Yes a glorious moment for Dan Marino, he was the greatest quarterback to ever be dominated by the Niner defense.
No that was John Elway in Super Bowl XXIV, fucking Redskin fan dumbass.
Quote from: Caliga on January 25, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
Colts-Pats rivalry.
It's not much of a rivalry anymore, given how crap the Patriots are.
It's sort of like the Raiders-Steelers rivalry. Except the Raiders can beat the Steelers. LOLOLOLOL.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 07:51:06 PM
No that was John Elway in Super Bowl XXIV, fucking Redskin fan dumbass.
Elway wasn't dominated he was just preparing for a stunning 2nd half comeback and ran out of time.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2010, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2010, 06:17:08 PMI'd still rather have Favre dick the Vikings around for 8 months and come back in 2010 than have Rosenfels as our QB.
Pfft. If you're gonna choke your team, don't throw a pick; that's sooo pedestrian. Anybody can do that.
If my team's going to implode, I want it to implode SPECTACULARLY.
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Damn right. Losses happen all the time. The Rosencopter thing was
legendary.
I would also like to point out that the implosion started happening almost IMMEDIATELY after Tim made a comment about the Texans kicking the Colts asses. Like...his post appeared, I had time to read it, and there was the first turnover. Sage had been in full beast mode right up until that moment, then he just melted down.
Hopefully the Saints are good enough to overcome The Taint. Sage Rosenfels clearly wasn't. The Taint absolutely destroyed poor Sage.
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Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Valmy I understand you being from Texas, that i need to use small words, but if you quote rest of my post you answer your own question.
:P
Yeah calling a 4 time NFL MVP, 5 time first team all pro, 10 time pro bowl selection, Super Bowl MVP with a 95+ career QB rating with a whole shit load of NFL records as possible among the greatest of all time is hyerbole. Oh wait...not it isn't it is simply common sense.
Since my very point was that he needs to win a few Super Bowls to solidify that position, accusing me of hyperbole since he has not won enough Super Bowls is agreeing with me not saying something 'despite my hyperbole'.
He's an overrated hack. A HACK!
See Kat? Concede the point. Tim is agreeing with you now.
Uh his claim isn't the same as mine.
Dumbass.
You just can't hate a quarterback that makes commercials like this. Even if he's got horseshoes on his helmet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjO_0VDpJvc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3UKI0ciMRY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGmX6m78zDM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSCALpmxnLE&feature=related
And of course, the greatest United Way commercial of all time: http://www.rawmeat.com/link.php?id=11341
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Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
I don't have anything against him, except for hyperbole from fools like Valmy and Grey Fox.
How is it hyperbole to label Peyton Manning potentially one of the greatest of all time?
Valmy I understand you being from Texas, that i need to use small words, but if you quote rest of my post you answer your own question.
:P
Yeah calling a 4 time NFL MVP, 5 time first team all pro, 10 time pro bowl selection, Super Bowl MVP with a 95+ career QB rating with a whole shit load of NFL records as possible among the greatest of all time is hyerbole. Oh wait...not it isn't it is simply common sense.
Since my very point was that he needs to win a few Super Bowls to solidify that position, accusing me of hyperbole since he has not won enough Super Bowls is agreeing with me not saying something 'despite my hyperbole'.
He's an overrated hack. A HACK!
His name isn't Tom Brady.
Quote
Sunday's sudden-death battle between the New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings averaged an audience of 57.9 million viewers -- making it the most watched NFC championship game ever on Fox.
It was the second largest audience for any championship game on TV behind only the 1982 Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers battle.
The audience peaked at a near-Super-Bowl level of 65.2 million viewers from 9:30 to 10 p.m.
Overall, the 2010 playoffs were also the most watched ever on Fox.
Outside of Super Bowls, Sunday's game was TV's most-watched program since the finale of "Seinfeld" in 1998.
And most of those watchers went home happy when Brett Favre lost.
Quote from: katmai on January 26, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Uh his claim isn't the same as mine.
Dumbass.
It is in his own magical Tainted way.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 26, 2010, 06:01:37 AM
And of course, the greatest United Way commercial of all time: http://www.rawmeat.com/link.php?id=11341
Awesome, I've been looking for that one for a while.
I'm sure timmay will love this article, but I'm posting it for Valmy the Manning lover <_<
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QuotePremature to close the door on Brady
Michael Silver
By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports 9 hours, 15 minutes ago
MIAMI – The question we're supposed to be answering, according to a growing chorus of people in my business, is whether the Indianapolis Colts' Peyton Manning(notes), pending Sunday's Super Bowl XLIV performance against the New Orleans Saints, is the greatest quarterback in football history.
And here I was all this time, believing that there's still a legitimate debate as to who is the best quarterback of this era.
So I tracked down the man who, in my not-so-humble opinion, is the greatest of all time and asked him if he agreed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady(notes) was being prematurely run over and kicked to the side of the road by the Short Attention Span Overstatement Society.
"Yeah, I think it's too early," former San Francisco 49ers and Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Joe Montana said Thursday. "This is [Manning's] second Super Bowl, and now they're saying if he wins he's the greatest. Tom's sitting there with three [rings] and he's been in four. I think it's hard to pick one person."
I'm with Montana. No matter how awesome Manning is on Sunday, I won't even be ready to declare that he's unequivocally the best of his time. I still think it's a two-man discussion, and it won't be settled until Manning and Brady are retired and getting asked about the great quarterbacks of the next era and beyond.
I understand the hyperbole when it comes to assessing Manning's greatness. At 33, he is a master at the top of his game. He just won his second consecutive and record fourth overall league MVP award. He already ranks insanely high on the career lists in most significant passing categories, and given his Favresque durability, it's likely he will own most of the important records by the time he retires.
He's also uniquely involved in his team's offensive scheme, a shrewd and ultra-prepared maestro with unparalleled responsibility to adjust routes and strategies at the line of scrimmage. As future Hall of Fame halfback Marshall Faulk(notes), who played with Manning in Indy in 1998, said earlier this week, "You'll always throw the Patriots' greatness as a team in when you're talking about Brady. With Peyton, you'll say he was the team."
That, as with other testimonials to Manning's greatness, is very hard to dispute. The guy is amazing, and he is likely to keep getting better, which is scary.
Brady, however, is only 32. He plays for a great coach and the best-run organization in pro sports. Three years from now, if Brady is in possession of another Super Bowl ring – or rings – this could be a very different conversation.
Don't believe me? Consider how much has changed during the past three years.
Until Manning and the Colts defeated the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XLI, he was Dan Marino – a prolific passer who, for all his incredible consistency and statistical feats, hadn't been coronated as a champion. Worse, Manning's teams had a reputation for consistently falling short in big games, often as a favored team. He'd played his share of postseason stinkers, and the can't-win-the-big-one stigma which began during his stellar collegiate career at Tennessee grew larger and larger.
Then, with one Super Bowl victory, Manning erased all that. Brady remained the quintessential winner, but now Manning had his ring along with the gaudy numbers, a tough combination to beat.
The Patriots responded by getting Randy Moss(notes) and Wes Welker(notes) and unleashing Brady in a way we'd never seen before. Suddenly, Brady was Manningesque. Not only did he lead the Pats to the first 16-0 regular season in league history, but he also put up perhaps the most impressive statistical season of all time en route to his first MVP trophy.
Brady threw 50 touchdown passes, breaking Manning's single-season record from three years earlier. He completed 398 of 578 passes for 4,806 yards (the third-highest total of all time) and threw only eight interceptions, for a passer rating of 117.2 (second-best in NFL history).
Oh, and he rallied the Patriots to a fourth-quarter lead over the Giants in Super Bowl XLII and was 35 seconds away from a fourth championship before David Tyree(notes), Plaxico Burress(notes) and company snatched it away.
Now, two years later, Brady is an afterthought while Manning is being touted as the greatest of all time? That seems a little extreme for my tastes.
Manning vs. Brady
Player Career stats Accolades
Peyton Manning 50,128 yds, 366 TDs 4 MVPs, 1 Super Bowl
Tom Brady 30,844 yds, 225 TDs 1 MVP, 3 Super Bowls
Montana, with his four rings, three Super Bowl MVP performances, 11-0 touchdowns to interception differential in those games and penchant for classic comebacks and magical moments, remains the gold standard in my opinion. Yet as gratifying as it may be to receive that type of reverence, the man gets uncomfortable when he hears such talk.
"It's great for people to think of you that way, but it's almost unfair to compare between eras," Montana said. "Look at today's era – it's so much easier to throw the ball.
"Look at the way they're protecting quarterbacks compared to guys like Bart Starr or all the way back to Sammy Baugh. And look at the rules for receivers. Hell, that wasn't bump-and-run coverage back then; that was grab-and-hold. They'd kick and fight you to keep you from getting the ball. You'd get arrested for that today."
It's human nature to try to compare between eras, to declare greatness in historical terms. Football fans of this generation are blessed to have two passers, Manning and Brady, who are worthy of inclusion into the conversation about the best of all time.
To me, that conversation starts with Montana and includes Johnny Unitas, Otto Graham and John Elway. However, I'm just one guy, and I never had the privilege of watching Unitas in his prime or Graham at all or any of the other great quarterbacks who thrived before I was born.
As for the debate about who's the best of this era, I prefer to think of Brady and Manning as Magic Johnson and Larry Bird: Two outstanding originals who pushed one another to exceptional achievements, and who finished their NBA careers in The Conversation.
You know what that means, right? Somewhere out there, the NFL's answer to Michael Jordan is getting ready to obliterate all who came before and hijack the argument.
There is no conversation. Manning is better than Brady, no doubt.
Quote from: Neil on February 05, 2010, 09:47:19 PM
There is no conversation. Manning is better than Brady, no doubt.
It goes without saying. You take Manning off the Colts and they would be lucky to go 8-8. You take Brady off the Patriots and Cassels leads them to an 11-5 record.