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Title: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on March 10, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
Guy gets the door!

What's happening in the MTL? A melt down? Can Gainey save the year?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on March 10, 2009, 01:31:15 PM
I'm already saving my spot on St-Cath for the Parade.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 10, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
Montreal's having a bit of a slump, but they'll recover and make the playoffs.

I'm more worried about Calgary.  They're not just losing, they've been getting destroyed by teams that are average at best.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Evil Spock on March 10, 2009, 02:07:47 PM
Trade-deadlineitis. Ollie Jokinen is a cancer in the locker room.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on March 10, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 10, 2009, 02:07:47 PM
Trade-deadlineitis. Ollie Jokinen is a cancer in the locker room.

Mike Keenan is the Flames coach. The Doomsday clock started steadily ticking towards Midnight when he took over. Just as it has for every place he has gone. I was just shocked not to see Iginla get dumped. Keenan's first move is to usually get rid of any superstars and/or leaders that may challenge him. Ignila must not be much of a leader or a strong presence on the team. Or, maybe Mike is mellowing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on March 11, 2009, 04:53:21 AM
I believe the very successful Chicago Blackhawks of Keenan's day had lots of leadership.

I'm more interested in the Rangers under Tortorella. Beating Bruins is well and good but losing to Cahlina won't do.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Scipio on March 11, 2009, 06:39:53 AM
I predict the Red Wings will implode in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 11, 2009, 07:21:32 AM
Quote from: Strix on March 10, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 10, 2009, 02:07:47 PM
Trade-deadlineitis. Ollie Jokinen is a cancer in the locker room.

Mike Keenan is the Flames coach. The Doomsday clock started steadily ticking towards Midnight when he took over. Just as it has for every place he has gone. I was just shocked not to see Iginla get dumped. Keenan's first move is to usually get rid of any superstars and/or leaders that may challenge him. Ignila must not be much of a leader or a strong presence on the team. Or, maybe Mike is mellowing.
Keenan doesn't call the shots when it comes to peronnel.  Keenan might be the coach, but Sutter is the Big Man in that office.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on March 11, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Quote from: Scipio on March 11, 2009, 06:39:53 AM
I predict the Red Wings will implode in the playoffs.

Just like last year that everyone predicted?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on March 11, 2009, 09:23:37 AM
Quote from: Delirium on March 11, 2009, 04:53:21 AM
I believe the very successful Chicago Blackhawks of Keenan's day had lots of leadership.

I'm more interested in the Rangers under Tortorella. Beating Bruins is well and good but losing to Cahlina won't do.

I didn't say he wasn't successful. At least early on in his career he would take over a team and get them far into the playoffs in short order. However, he'd leave the team after 3-4 seasons and the whole organization (playerwise) would be in a shambles that takes years to recover from.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Scipio on March 11, 2009, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: Delirium on March 11, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Quote from: Scipio on March 11, 2009, 06:39:53 AM
I predict the Red Wings will implode in the playoffs.

Just like last year that everyone predicted?

It's a safer prediction than a Stanley Cup victory.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on March 11, 2009, 09:46:38 AM
You may be right.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 13, 2009, 10:28:12 AM
Calgary vs. Detroit last night was a hell of a game.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on March 13, 2009, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: Strix on March 10, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 10, 2009, 02:07:47 PM
Trade-deadlineitis. Ollie Jokinen is a cancer in the locker room.

Mike Keenan is the Flames coach. The Doomsday clock started steadily ticking towards Midnight when he took over. Just as it has for every place he has gone. I was just shocked not to see Iginla get dumped. Keenan's first move is to usually get rid of any superstars and/or leaders that may challenge him. Ignila must not be much of a leader or a strong presence on the team. Or, maybe Mike is mellowing.

Keenan is actually  very good at getting strong leaders on board. see Messier, Mark; see Roenick, Jeremy.

He's also very good at motivating goalies. Belfour, Richter, Kipper

Then he assembles roleplayers who buy into his system. some of these guys follow him from team to team. kinda cultish.

His modus is to rely on goto players for a lot of ice time. Messiers, Roenicks, Iginlas get double shifts, special teams. Goalies play 70 games.

since the Flames are in first place, in Keenan's second year, I don't think its doomsday yet, with respect to Keenan's limited shelf life, I think its just a slump.

the problem with firing Keenan, is that Calgary has gone through many coaches for what is "Sutter's team. the heat goes back onto Sutter then.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on March 13, 2009, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: Strix on March 11, 2009, 09:23:37 AM
However, he'd leave the team after 3-4 seasons and the whole organization (playerwise) would be in a shambles that takes years to recover from.

I agree with that, but Calgary is in goforit mode.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 13, 2009, 01:08:38 PM
Columbus haven't collapsed into a bloody heap yet. yay.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on March 13, 2009, 01:55:55 PM
 :-X Canucks have started a bandwagon with their recent hot play. The East is gonna fall hard, whichever Western team ends up in the final.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on March 13, 2009, 01:57:47 PM
The West sucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: Cindy Brady on March 13, 2009, 01:08:38 PM
Columbus haven't collapsed into a bloody heap yet. yay.

You guys should be very pleased with the Blue Jacket's performance. They've exceeded all expectations.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on March 13, 2009, 01:55:55 PM
:-X Canucks have started a bandwagon with their recent hot play. The East is gonna fall hard, whichever Western team ends up in the final.

Every day on the 1040 it swings back and forth. Agree on the East, they just can't compete with the West. Despite their record I don't see Boston in the final, will most likely be Detroit/New Jersey.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on March 13, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
Canucks fans are among the worst. its either "blow it all up now and tank!" vrs "win today, fuck tomorrow!"
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 13, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on March 13, 2009, 01:55:55 PM
:-X Canucks have started a bandwagon with their recent hot play. The East is gonna fall hard, whichever Western team ends up in the final.
The Canucks are a bunch of assholes.  They're a western version of the Maple Leafs.  Sundin just confirms it.  Barring a meltdown they'll make the playoffs, but they're too worthless to advance.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 13, 2009, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: Cindy Brady on March 13, 2009, 01:08:38 PM
Columbus haven't collapsed into a bloody heap yet. yay.

You guys should be very pleased with the Blue Jacket's performance. They've exceeded all expectations.

It was about time. I think the fan base was getting disgruntled.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 05:50:58 PM
Quote from: Cindy Brady on March 13, 2009, 05:33:25 PM


It was about time. I think the fan base was getting disgruntled.

As well they should. But management finally went out and got Rick Nash some help. I really hope you guys make the playoffs this year, just not at the Canuck's expense of course.  ;D That Mason goalie of yours has really impressed, I wonder if he can keep it up for the big show and next season.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 13, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 05:50:58 PM
Quote from: Cindy Brady on March 13, 2009, 05:33:25 PM


It was about time. I think the fan base was getting disgruntled.

As well they should. But management finally went out and got Rick Nash some help. I really hope you guys make the playoffs this year, just not at the Canuck's expense of course.  ;D That Mason goalie of yours has really impressed, I wonder if he can keep it up for the big show and next season.

They ditched Leclaire, so he better deliver.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Zoupa on March 20, 2009, 04:31:05 PM
 :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on March 20, 2009, 10:43:02 PM
Fucking Saku Koivu, 4 more years :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
Hod.  The Sabres have been in free fall for too long now.  I think the plaoff window is about to shut on them. :(  On a side topic, what are your thoughts on Ovechkin's antics?  Personally, I like it.  I think.  I go between hating it and loving it, but at the moment I'm for them.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 21, 2009, 07:25:38 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
On a side topic, what are your thoughts on Ovechkin's antics?  Personally, I like it.  I think.  I go between hating it and loving it, but at the moment I'm for them.
I think it's hillarious watching the sports media blasting him, but I don't really care.  It's no worse than riding the stick.  Since it was something of a milestone goal, it's not so bad, although it would get old if guys were doing this all the time.  If the opposing team didn't want to be disrespected, they shouldn't have let him come in 1-on-3 and then beat the goalie.

As for the Habs, their inability to play hard for a whole game, coupled with Price's sophomore slump are getting on my nerves, as is Calgary's determination to lose as much as possible.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on March 21, 2009, 08:13:52 AM
Just as long as it doesn't become a soccer style homo ass grab, Ovechkin is alright.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on March 21, 2009, 08:34:49 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
Hod.  The Sabres have been in free fall for too long now.  I think the plaoff window is about to shut on them. :(  On a side topic, what are your thoughts on Ovechkin's antics?  Personally, I like it.  I think.  I go between hating it and loving it, but at the moment I'm for them.


It's probably time for Ruff to go. He is a great coach and all but the team no longer buys into what he is saying. He can inspire them for a game here and there but overall he just isn't providing the leadership and inspiration that the team needs. Granted the team also lacks any natural leaders among the players (Rivet as Captain?!?) but the coach needs to do more to bring that out of his players.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 21, 2009, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: Strix on March 21, 2009, 08:34:49 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
Hod.  The Sabres have been in free fall for too long now.  I think the plaoff window is about to shut on them. :(  On a side topic, what are your thoughts on Ovechkin's antics?  Personally, I like it.  I think.  I go between hating it and loving it, but at the moment I'm for them.


It's probably time for Ruff to go. He is a great coach and all but the team no longer buys into what he is saying. He can inspire them for a game here and there but overall he just isn't providing the leadership and inspiration that the team needs. Granted the team also lacks any natural leaders among the players (Rivet as Captain?!?) but the coach needs to do more to bring that out of his players.
Buffalo made a conscious decision to walk off a cliff when they let Briere and Drury go, at the same time.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on March 21, 2009, 12:25:36 PM
Ovechkin is making this game fun. Players are a bunch of crybabies.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on March 21, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
:D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on March 22, 2009, 02:00:42 PM
Why does the puck sound so loud when NBC airs hockey games? The commentators seem far away, as do the crowd, but every pass of the puck, or ricochet against the board comes out unusally clear.

Is this the new version of the "puck trail" so that people can follow the black puck on the white ice?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on March 22, 2009, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 22, 2009, 02:00:42 PM
Why does the puck sound so loud when NBC airs hockey games? The commentators seem far away, as do the crowd, but every pass of the puck, or ricochet against the board comes out unusally clear.

Is this the new version of the "puck trail" so that people can follow the black puck on the white ice?

They mic the boards.  All the broadcasters do this, NBC seems to turn the volume up a little higher though.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on March 22, 2009, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: PRC on March 22, 2009, 02:03:58 PM
They mic the boards.  All the broadcasters do this, NBC seems to turn the volume up a little higher though.
Probably just seems weirder to me becasue the mic levels of the commentators always seems drowned out so the puck sounds come through clearer.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on March 24, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 10, 2009, 02:00:48 PM

I'm more worried about Calgary.  They're not just losing, they've been getting destroyed by teams that are average at best.

They beat the Wings last night, though.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on March 24, 2009, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: charliebear on March 24, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
They beat the Wings last night, though.

The Wings have some of the crappiest goaltending in the league though.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on March 24, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: PRC on March 24, 2009, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: charliebear on March 24, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
They beat the Wings last night, though.

The Wings have some of the crappiest goaltending in the league though.
I wouldn't go that far.  Conklin's average at best, but Osgood can be awesome.  It's just that not even Osgood knows whether or not he's going to show up on any given night.  Last night, all three of the goals he let in were goals that would have been embarassing for an AHL goalie.  At the same time, he'll have a few games in the ten or so that are remaining where he stands on his head.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 09, 2009, 06:35:57 AM
Congrats to the Blue Jackets on securing their first ever playoff berth.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 09, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
I was wrong. good show by the Blue.

odds are they will meet either Calgary or Canucks in round 1? as an unknown team to most northerners, it would be an interesting series either way.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:00:22 AM
I am satisfied.  Anaheim and Carolina are the only evil teams in playoff position right now.  San Jose on evil probation pending confirmation of Katmai's claim that Shark fans actually like Hockey.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 09, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
I was wrong. good show by the Blue.

odds are they will meet either Calgary or Canucks in round 1? as an unknown team to most northerners, it would be an interesting series either way.

The Bluejackets: Great rookie goaltender, and they play Ken Hitchcock style hockey. Don't expect a bunch of showy goalscoring from the 'jackets.

They could advance past the first round, but that is it.

I've got playoff tickets already.  :Canuck:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 10:37:56 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:00:22 AM
I am satisfied.  Anaheim and Carolina are the only evil teams in playoff position right now.  San Jose on evil probation pending confirmation of Katmai's claim that Shark fans actually like Hockey.
You forgot Vancouver.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 10:37:56 AMYou forgot Vancouver.

Don't be ridiculous.  Nobody from Canada can be evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:00:22 AM
I am satisfied.  Anaheim and Carolina are the only evil teams in playoff position right now.  San Jose on evil probation pending confirmation of Katmai's claim that Shark fans actually like Hockey.

Anaheim isn't evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:58:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 10:57:55 AMAnaheim isn't evil.

Notice there is no debate about whether or not Carolina is evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:58:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 10:57:55 AMAnaheim isn't evil.

Notice there is no debate about whether or not Carolina is evil.

Carolina, much like Phoenix, is a former WHA team that was stolen away to the south and as such is inherently evil.

Sorry Strix.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 09, 2009, 11:03:01 AM
Carolina, the best team in the NHL that everyone would rather see it play anywhere else.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 11:05:17 AM
I find Dallas to be the most evil. Move the North Stars away from Minnesota then plop an expansion team up there? Moronic.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:05:57 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 10:37:56 AMYou forgot Vancouver.

Don't be ridiculous.  Nobody from Canada can be evil.
Vancouver is pure evil, as is Toronto.  They're full of Euro players, and their fans are total trash.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:06:16 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 11:05:17 AM
I find Dallas to be the most evil. Move the North Stars away form Minnesota then plop an expansion team up there? Moronic.
Agreed.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 11:05:17 AM
I find Dallas to be the most evil. Move the North Stars away form Minnesota then plop an expansion team up there? Moronic.

I totally agree.  The Stars are the platonic idea of evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 09, 2009, 11:28:06 AM
Today is Sean Avery & Dion Phaneuf's birthday.

Also, Enrico Ciconne, a much cooler guy.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.

Bettman is the devil and the Stars are his prophets.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.

:mmm:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
:mmm:

:ultra:  That's it I am going back to hating the Sharks.  <_<
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
:mmm:

:ultra:  That's it I am going back to hating the Sharks.  <_<

:yawn:

California and texas need more hockey teams, and since most Canadians leave Canada anyways for the US, might as well facilitate them invading our country by taking the hockey teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 12:19:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.

Bettman is the devil and the Stars are his prophets.

I dunno - Bettman got a salary cap and revenue sharing which has tremendously helped smaller market teams, so he's not all evil.

I think of him as the Augusto Pinochet of sports.  :)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
California and texas need more hockey teams, and since most Canadians leave Canada anyways for the US, might as well facilitate them invading our country by taking the hockey teams.

Canadians in Texas? :unsure:

Nah what we need are more futbol teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
California and texas need more hockey teams, and since most Canadians leave Canada anyways for the US, might as well facilitate them invading our country by taking the hockey teams.

Canadians in Texas? :unsure:

Nah what we need are more futbol teams.

And yet they are giving them to the evil Canadians and worse to Portlanders!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 12:30:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 12:19:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.

Bettman is the devil and the Stars are his prophets.

I dunno - Bettman got a salary cap and revenue sharing which has tremendously helped smaller market teams, so he's not all evil.

I think of him as the Augusto Pinochet of sports.  :)
It's a shame he had to completely destroy the league's popularity and all hopes for growth in the immediate future to get it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: derspiess on April 09, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Then again, at that time Bettman's business plans were generally to take well-performing teams out of small markets and move them to larger American cities, ala Dallas and Denver.

We're lucky we didn't end up with the San Francisco Oilers, the Houston Flames and the Seattle Canucks.

Actually, San Francisco Flames might work.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Hands off my Flames.

We stole em from Atlanta fair and square.   :mad:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 09, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Hands off my Flames.

We stole em from Atlanta fair and square.   :mad:

Now that Alberta is going the way of Michigan....
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 01:37:10 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 09, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Hands off my Flames.

We stole em from Atlanta fair and square.   :mad:

Now that Alberta is going the way of Michigan....

:yeahright:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:14:22 PM
Vancouver takes the division title from Calgary.  Calgary Flames suck and the Vancouver Canucks are going to win the Stanley Cup.  Amen.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 11, 2009, 11:18:19 PM
:ph34r:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 11, 2009, 11:19:27 PM
Ducks vs Sharks is going to be epic, if it happens.

I have no idea who to pick in my pool.

Leaning towards Chitown.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 11, 2009, 11:19:27 PM
Ducks vs Sharks is going to be epic, if it happens.

I have no idea who to pick in my pool.

Leaning towards Chitown.

If it is a Players pool, go with guys from Vancouver in the West.  Maybe pick someone from Detroit.  In the East... go with players from New Jersey and Washington and a guy or two from Boston.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 12, 2009, 06:41:28 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 11, 2009, 11:19:27 PM
Leaning towards Chitown.

As am I...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 12, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.
Bullshit.  Vancouver will choke like the no-heart bunch of Euros that they are.  They represent everything that is wrong with hockey, and will be destroyed by the Blue Jackets, a much grittier team.  It might take six games, but in the end Vancouver will collapse.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 12, 2009, 10:06:46 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.
Bullshit.  Vancouver will choke like the no-heart bunch of Euros that they are.  They represent everything that is wrong with hockey, and will be destroyed by the Blue Jackets, a much grittier team.  It might take six games, but in the end Vancouver will collapse.

hail Neil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 12, 2009, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.
Bullshit.  Vancouver will choke like the no-heart bunch of Euros that they are.  They represent everything that is wrong with hockey, and will be destroyed by the Blue Jackets, a much grittier team.  It might take six games, but in the end Vancouver will collapse.

It all depends how much time Luongo will spend crying to the refs instead of watching the play & stopping the puck.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 12, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
The Blackhawks won a pair of home-on-home games with Detroit this weekend, putting together some nice momentum going into the playoffs.  They need to continue keeping their game simple, playing good team defense & continue to capiltalize on chances as they arise.  Khabibulin has been playing very, very well the last several games & also needs to keep it up.

Or something.  I'm just happy that the Hawks finally beat Detroit a couple of times this weekend.  Sure, the Wings sat Lidstrom & Hossa today, but fuck it -- it made me Happy...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
Plus, the Blackhawks get the Flames in the first round, whose legendary choke and injured team will result in a quick exit.  A shame, since both the Canadian teams have fallen apart.  Montreal will be lucky not to get swept, and will probably fail.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 12, 2009, 07:36:20 PM
Vancouver will be playing St. Louis and not Columbus.  Columbus gets Detroit.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 12, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
Plus, the Blackhawks get the Flames in the first round, whose legendary choke and injured team will result in a quick exit.  A shame, since both the Canadian teams have fallen apart.  Montreal will be lucky not to get swept, and will probably fail.

It's Bettman's league. He'll fix it so that the Habs take it all on their 100th anniversary.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 12, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 12, 2009, 07:36:20 PM
Vancouver will be playing St. Louis and not Columbus.  Columbus gets Detroit.
Well, that's a closer match.  The Blues will prevail though.  Evil will be vanquished.

I just hope the Jackets have it in them to crush Detroit.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 12, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: Strix on April 12, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
Plus, the Blackhawks get the Flames in the first round, whose legendary choke and injured team will result in a quick exit.  A shame, since both the Canadian teams have fallen apart.  Montreal will be lucky not to get swept, and will probably fail.

It's Bettman's league. He'll fix it so that the Habs take it all on their 100th anniversary.
I'm sure Bettman will try.  With the way that Montreal's blue line was crippled by cheap shots from the Leafs, right at the end of the season, I don't think that they have much of a chance, even if the league were to try something ridiculous like that.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 12, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
The Bruins will win, sweeping all 4 major sports this decade! :contract:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 13, 2009, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 12, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
The Bruins will win, sweeping all 4 major sports this decade! :contract:

Well shit i don't know who's tears would be more sweet, timmay if Bruins lose or Zoupa/gf's  :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 13, 2009, 06:13:16 AM
I don't know, it'll be a great series none the less.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
bemused by Calgary's collapse. still, it doesn't matter. given that the cap does not count in the playoffs, they can ice a full team now. they better do well, otherwise, they will have to do some major retooling. in any other market, sutter would be gone.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 13, 2009, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
bemused by Calgary's collapse. still, it doesn't matter. given that the cap does not count in the playoffs, they can ice a full team now. they better do well, otherwise, they will have to do some major retooling. in any other market, sutter would be gone.

Wanna talk cap? Flyers have been fielding amateur try out contract defensemen that get 5min of ice time for the past 4-5 games.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 13, 2009, 10:41:23 AM
I look forward to the Washington Capitals hoisting the cup.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 13, 2009, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2009, 10:41:23 AM
I look forward to the Washington Capitals hoisting the cup.

I'd like to cheer for the Caps but I just can't. I want Jose Theodore to fail, I want him to kill himself in a Chris Benoit homage.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 13, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
Plus, the Blackhawks get the Flames in the first round, whose legendary choke and injured team will result in a quick exit.  A shame, since both the Canadian teams have fallen apart.  Montreal will be lucky not to get swept, and will probably fail.

I don't know about legendary choking, but yeah the last 5 years or so have not been good.

But still - against the Blackhawks?  A team that hasn't made the playoffs in a decade or so?  I'm cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 13, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
in any other market, sutter would be gone.
Not quite.  Look at what Kevin Lowe has gotten away with for years in Edmonton.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 13, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 13, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
I don't know about legendary choking, but yeah the last 5 years or so have not been good.
The last 5 or so games have just been terrible.  I mean, losing to Edmonton, with the division and home ice on the line?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 13, 2009, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 13, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
I don't know about legendary choking, but yeah the last 5 years or so have not been good.

But still - against the Blackhawks?  A team that hasn't made the playoffs in a decade or so?  I'm cautiously optimistic.

The Flames lost all 4 games against the Hawks this year and they weren't close games at all.  And Calgary will be missing Robyn Regher who is their best defenceman and the only guy who could contain any of the Hawks forwards he is put up against.  I wouldn't be surprised in the Hawks sweep this series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 13, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.

I look forward to the riots.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 13, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
  Vancouver will choke like the no-heart bunch of Euros that they are. 

I remember you mentioning this last year in regards to the Wings.  Gee, what a season they had with those "no heart bunch of euros."   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 13, 2009, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 12, 2009, 07:36:20 PM
Vancouver will be playing St. Louis and not Columbus.  Columbus gets Detroit.
Well, that's a closer match.  The Blues will prevail though.  Evil will be vanquished.

I just hope the Jackets have it in them to crush Detroit.

Tsk, tsk.  So much hate.  Go to your happy hockey place, Neil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 13, 2009, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 13, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 13, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
I don't know about legendary choking, but yeah the last 5 years or so have not been good.
The last 5 or so games have just been terrible.  I mean, losing to Edmonton, with the division and home ice on the line?

As Sask pointed out they got into cap trouble the last few games and couldn't even carry a full roster.  No longer a problem in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 13, 2009, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
bemused by Calgary's collapse. still, it doesn't matter. given that the cap does not count in the playoffs, they can ice a full team now. they better do well, otherwise, they will have to do some major retooling. in any other market, sutter would be gone.

Wanna talk cap? Flyers have been fielding amateur try out contract defensemen that get 5min of ice time for the past 4-5 games.

that's funny. in the second season, where players are not paid salary, the Flyers won't have to ice those scrubs..unless they truely have horrible injuries and thus have no choice.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 12:44:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 13, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 13, 2009, 10:08:25 AM
in any other market, sutter would be gone.
Not quite.  Look at what Kevin Lowe has gotten away with for years in Edmonton.

I guess. my impression is that Calgary has had very high expectations since the cup final, and the team consistently fails in the playoffs. for a team that is apparently "built for the playoffs,"  it seems there is a perennial gap between perception and reality.

hmm. maybe Sutter's job is safe after all
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 13, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
The radio pundits in Cowtown have been blaming the Flames issues squarely on Olli Jokinen.  They all say he is a cancer in the dressing room and Wayne Gretzky couldn't get him off the Coyotes fast enough, etc. etc.  Jokinen is a shooter, and putting him with Iginla and Camalleri is a mistake because you have 3 shooters on the one line and no distributors.  Also with those 3 and say, Phaneuf and Aucoin as a power play unit - no one passes - it's all shots regardless of how good a look they have.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 15, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
The washington NY game is pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 15, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
The washington NY game is pretty entertaining.
Indeed.  Although I like the Capitals, I have to cheer for the Rangers in this one.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
<_< I'm stuck with Pens/Flyers on TV
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
Go Caps!

Sorry Katmai. Stuck with Versus only?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
<_< I'm stuck with Pens/Flyers on TV
That's terrible.  Up here, CBC is stuck with that lemon.  TSN has good series like Flames/Blackhawks and Rangers/Capitals.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
Go Caps!

Sorry Katmai. Stuck with Versus only?

:yes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 15, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
<_< I'm stuck with Pens/Flyers on TV
I've got the pens too, and nj on intermission during the caps game.

@ neil. i haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
Go Caps!

Sorry Katmai. Stuck with Versus only?

:yes:

Going to have to subscribe to Center Ice.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 15, 2009, 08:23:35 PM
ok, Peca and Torres are both playing for the Jackets? are they on the same line?

yeah, they have beaten Detroit before. it's an intangible.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:28:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
Go Caps!

Sorry Katmai. Stuck with Versus only?

:yes:
I'm surprised you can't get CBC over the airwaves. 

At any rate, the Official Languish Position is to cheer for the bolded teams in the matchups.

San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:37:41 PM
And the Rangers have stolen home ice advantage.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:40:32 PM
Why cheer for the Rangers? Cheer for Washington, shove it into Bettman's and NBC's face & their freakish love for NYC.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 15, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
Gomez 1g, 2a in 4-3 win :w00t:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:48:11 PM
San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:40:32 PM
Why cheer for the Rangers? Cheer for Washington, shove it into Bettman's and NBC's face & their freakish love for NYC.
Avery, Tortorella, Dubinsky, Lundquist, Roszival, Staal, Mara.  Even Gomez is good, despite the fact that he's some kind of snow Mexican.

Besides, it's not like the Capitals aren't one of Bettman's favorites.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2009, 08:48:22 PM

Even Gomez is good, despite the fact that he's some kind of snow Mexican.


:hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Why I'm getting the Manitoban version of the National?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Gaius Marius on April 15, 2009, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Why I'm getting the Manitoban version of the National?

Heh, i've gotten the Vancouver version here in Edmonton now and then
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 15, 2009, 11:47:45 PM
Vancouver takes it!  Whoo-hoo!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 05:16:36 PM
Also only had Flyers/Pens for the early game last night.  Couldn't stay awake long enough for Blues/'Couver.  Half-hour to go 'till Jackets/Dead Things & then of course Hawks/Flamers.  No way in hell I'll stay up late enough for Sharks/Ducks.  Am personally rooting for (in the 1st round at least):

San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago (duh) vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia

Am trying to talk Wifey into letting me take The Box out to the garage so that I can have Versus out in ManLand (currently only get non-digital cable channels out there), but No Dice.  Have to run Estrogen Gauntlet & run risk of talking about feelings & shit during games.  She knows better than to babble during Blackhawks games, but am still conditioning her to de-yap-ify during other games.  It's a Process.  Or something...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 16, 2009, 05:19:53 PM
Once Calgary chokes out, Languish will be entirely behind the Blackhawks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 05:19:53 PM
Once Calgary chokes out, Languish will be entirely behind the Blackhawks.

Despite my sincere hopes to the contrary, my spidey sense tells me that this series will ultimately just be a Tard Fight to see who gets to be fodder in the second round anyways, so I need to try & keep my panties from getting into too much of a bunch one way or the other...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 06:33:59 PM
price just a little too slow
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
Plekanec :weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 16, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
Plekanec :weep:
Is completely useless this year.

Still, the Canadiens aren't done.  I'm surprised to see Laraque on the first line.

Carey Price is super-rattled.  It's not like he hasn't been to the playoffs before.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 06:42:46 PM

Still, the Canadiens aren't done.  I'm surprised to see Laraque on the first line.

Insurance i would wager, though it'll probably bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
Chicago vs. Calgary

This insult shall not be forgotten. :ultra:


CCR, since he actually has a frikkin Blackhawk tattoo, shall be forgiven this one time.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
Plekanec :weep:
Is completely useless this year.

Still, the Canadiens aren't done.  I'm surprised to see Laraque on the first line.

Carey Price is super-rattled.  It's not like he hasn't been to the playoffs before.

Halak should be in net, he should have been #1 goalie since early February. For some reason, they seem totally unable to trust him. They prefer to put the drunken indian in the net.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
CCR, since he actually has a frikkin Blackhawk tattoo, shall be forgiven this one time.

:hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 06:59:43 PM
Columbus/Detroit game is a fun one.  Mason hasn't really been challenged all that much.  Osgood has had some nice saves, but other than that 1st one I don't think that he's been as spectacular as the Versus announcers have been painting him.  Get a room already...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 16, 2009, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 16, 2009, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 06:42:46 PM

Still, the Canadiens aren't done.  I'm surprised to see Laraque on the first line.

Insurance i would wager, though it'll probably bite them in the ass.
Maybe, although it seems to be paying off, building up a better second line.  Actually, given how tough Boston is, it makes sense.  Kovalev, Koivu and Tanguay are probably the nanciest line in the league, and would get punked by the Bruins.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 16, 2009, 07:26:33 PM
I hate the fucking NHL TV situation in the States. I had to find the Columbus-Shithole game on a fucking Fox Sports channel with its shitty ass fucking picture.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 16, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
Chicago vs. Calgary

This insult shall not be forgotten. :ultra:


CCR, since he actually has a frikkin Blackhawk tattoo, shall be forgiven this one time.

All NHL teams should move to USA.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 16, 2009, 07:26:33 PM
I hate the fucking NHL TV situation in the States. I had to find the Columbus-Shithole game on a fucking Fox Sports channel with its shitty ass fucking picture.

Center Ice is your friend.

No Versus?  :huh:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 16, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 16, 2009, 07:26:33 PM
I hate the fucking NHL TV situation in the States. I had to find the Columbus-Shithole game on a fucking Fox Sports channel with its shitty ass fucking picture.

Center Ice is your friend.

No Versus?  :huh:

No, I'm cheap.

Might be a local blackout agreement with Fox. they are showing gay ass boxing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 16, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
I'm cheap.

Might be a local blackout agreement with Fox. they are showing gay ass boxing.

Ah, must be.

No turkey hunting?

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 07:57:24 PM
And Calgary draws first blood. :menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 07:57:24 PM
And Calgary draws first blood. :menace:

Insert *middle finger* emoticon here...

:P

A really, really flat period for the Hawks (and a B+/A- "hustle" period for the Flames).  I'm hoping that it's a "freshman jitters" type of gig for the half of the Blackhawks roster that haven't played in the playoffs before & those jitters will wear off in the 2nd period.  The Hawks have done a decent job at killing off the Toews double-minor & I'm hoping that they can use that as a momentum springboard after the intermission.

Or something.  Despite the 1-0 deficit I am thoroughly enjoying the 1st playoff game that the Hawks have played in a loooooong time.  They haven't played one since before my 6 1/2 year old daughter was born...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 16, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
Chicago vs. Calgary

This insult shall not be forgotten. :ultra:


CCR, since he actually has a frikkin Blackhawk tattoo, shall be forgiven this one time.

All NHL teams should move to USA.
Alaska should be part of Canada!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 16, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Bruins win!  :menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 16, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Bruins win!  :menace:
Montreal will win the next one, then get smoked at home.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
Insert *middle finger* emoticon here...

:P

We shall see...

Chi-town has equalled things up (didn't see it, making supper).  We're heading into 3rd period all tied up.  And I'm wearing my Calgary jersey, drinking my Blue, and calling on all the mojo I can to bring Calgary to victory.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 16, 2009, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Chi-town has equalled things up (didn't see it, making supper).  We're heading into 3rd period all tied up.  And I'm wearing my Calgary jersey, drinking my Blue, and calling on all the mojo I can to bring Calgary to victory.
It wasn't the best goal.  There was some screen action, but it was still pretty saveable.  Still, Chicago was totally dominating at the time, and so those sorts of things will happen.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:31:58 PM
:menace:

2-1 Calgary
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
Ah crap.

2-2.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
Ah crap.

2-2.
What was the defense doing? three guys and they let him get to the puck?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:01:47 PM
Overtime. :o
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 10:03:43 PM
It's getting dark on The Pond...Mom's calling you for dinner...NEXT GOAL WINS!!!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 10:03:43 PM
It's getting dark on The Pond...Mom's calling you for dinner...NEXT GOAL WINS!!!

:menace:

Plenty of light here in the Yukon...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
By the way, Jonathan Toews is a good Winnipeg boy.

You're welcome CCR.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 16, 2009, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:
:console:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 16, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Muchos kudos to Khabibulin for standing on his head when the team needed him most tonight.  Other than a couple of odd spurts Calgary really had a definitive edge in play until the 1st Havlat goal tonight & Khabibulin kept the Blackhawks in the game...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 16, 2009, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:
It's still early, there are six games left. :console:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 16, 2009, 11:02:25 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
And I'm wearing my Calgary jersey, drinking my Blue, and calling on all the mojo I can to bring Calgary to victory.
Your mojo is weak.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 17, 2009, 04:39:20 AM
Mwahahaha, go Hawks!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 17, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
By the way, Jonathan Toews is a good Winnipeg boy.

and Khabibulin is a good Winnipeg goaltender. :ccr:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:16:25 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: PRC on April 11, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Stanley Cup final will be Vancouver vs. New Jersey with Vancouver winning the Cup.
Bullshit.  Vancouver will choke like the no-heart bunch of Euros that they are.  They represent everything that is wrong with hockey, and will be destroyed by the Blue Jackets, a much grittier team.  It might take six games, but in the end Vancouver will collapse.

Vancouver will take a 2-0 lead after tonight on their way to sweeping the series. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:

Don't get too invested in the flames.  Best to jump on the Canucks bandwagon now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 17, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
By the way, Jonathan Toews is a good Winnipeg boy.

and Khabibulin is a good Winnipeg goaltender. :ccr:

:yes:

You know if only the Jets could have had enough money to keep its players (and to have stuck around town) they could have had a very nice team into the mid to late 90s...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:

Don't get too invested in the flames.  Best to jump on the Canucks bandwagon now.

Thats unpossible.

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

I guess you wont be posting in this thread after next week.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

I guess you wont be posting in this thread after next week.

Sheesh - you don't see me pissing all over the Canucks chances.  <_<
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 17, 2009, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
:cry:

Don't get too invested in the flames.  Best to jump on the Canucks bandwagon now.
Yuck.  There are only two teams that are completely infamia:  Toronto and Vancouver.  Even Dallas, Detroit and Pittsburgh aren't as bad.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 17, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
Sheesh - you don't see me pissing all over the Canucks chances.  <_<
Canucks fans are bandwagoners by nature.  Their insecurity forces them to lash out.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 18, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 17, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
Sheesh - you don't see me pissing all over the Canucks chances.  <_<
Canucks fans are bandwagoners by nature.  Their insecurity forces them to lash out.

Its not too late for you to stop lashing out but I understand that the futility of the teams from Alberta would make one grumpy.  Come join the winning side before its too late for you to do so without honour.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 18, 2009, 12:28:50 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 17, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Canucks fans are bandwagoners by nature.  Their insecurity forces them to lash out.

Eat a dick bitch.  Canucks win, etc.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 18, 2009, 12:29:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

I guess you wont be posting in this thread after next week.

Sheesh - you don't see me pissing all over the Canucks chances.  <_<

That is because you are intelligent and so you recognize the Canucks' chances are very good.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 18, 2009, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 17, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
Sheesh - you don't see me pissing all over the Canucks chances.  <_<
Canucks fans are bandwagoners by nature.  Their insecurity forces them to lash out.

All teams have some (if not most) dumbass bandwagon fans. I'm down with ANY Canadian team winning the cup. Tho Vancouver is a definite bandwagon city, it is true. but you can whine about that (and thus be worse than the bandwagon people) or enjoy the ride while it lasts. Canucks are playing very very well, if you can't see that you don't understand hockey in the first place.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 18, 2009, 01:05:46 AM
Boo Buddha, embrace the Shark!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 18, 2009, 01:07:35 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 01:05:46 AM
Boo Buddha, embrace the Shark!

When they move to Canada, and/or learn how to step up in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 18, 2009, 01:09:49 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 18, 2009, 01:07:35 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 01:05:46 AM
Boo Buddha, embrace the Shark!

When they move to Canada, and/or learn how to step up in the playoffs.

No, no,no it's the other way around where all the Canada based teams move to USA....and to the 2nd part, this is the year i tell ya!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 18, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
Its not too late for you to stop lashing out but I understand that the futility of the teams from Alberta would make one grumpy.  Come join the winning side before its too late for you to do so without honour.
I'd rather see the cup go back to Detroit than come back to Canada if it meant that Vancouver would win.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 01:09:49 AM
No, no,no it's the other way around where all the Canada based teams move to USA....and to the 2nd part, this is the year i tell ya!
That's probably not going to happen anymore, given that the US is now a land of bone-crushing poverty.  There's a better chance of moving a team to Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

well, shit. you could have done yourself a favour and picked a better team. :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

well, shit. you could have done yourself a favour and picked a better team. :P
:lol:


Though as a leafs fan i shouldn't mock :p
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

well, shit. you could have done yourself a favour and picked a better team. :P
To be fair, it would be difficult to predict their run of injuries and chokeing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 17, 2009, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
By the way, Jonathan Toews is a good Winnipeg boy.

and Khabibulin is a good Winnipeg goaltender. :ccr:

:yes:

You know if only the Jets could have had enough money to keep its players (and to have stuck around town) they could have had a very nice team into the mid to late 90s...

sure. fact is nobody In Winnipeg wanted to build a new rink/profit centre using their own money. even the Asper's balked. so the socialists in Arizona promised to do so and away they went.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:52:52 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

well, shit. you could have done yourself a favour and picked a better team. :P
To be fair, it would be difficult to predict their run of injuries and chokeing.
everybody has injuries. the choking part is perennial.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:53:02 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 08:50:24 AM
Though as a leafs fan i shouldn't mock :p
Indeed.  The Leafs got dominated by the Senators, who might make the playoffs next year.  The Leafs, on the other hand, even with their hired gun GM, are still decades from making it back into the playoffs, due to karma.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
sure. fact is nobody In Winnipeg wanted to build a new rink/profit centre using their own money. even the Asper's balked. so the socialists in Arizona promised to do so and away they went.
That would have been difficult.  Ever since NAFTA, Winnipeg has become the most irrelevant place in Canada, now that fewer truckers need a place to stay in between Toronto and Calgary.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:53:02 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 08:50:24 AM
Though as a leafs fan i shouldn't mock :p
Indeed.  The Leafs got dominated by the Senators, who might make the playoffs next year.  The Leafs, on the other hand, even with their hired gun GM, are still decades from making it back into the playoffs, due to karma.
Karma? I blame the teachers and the MLSE. Why put money into being good when you can make loads either way.

What toronto needs is a team in Hamilton.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 09:07:45 AM
What toronto needs is a team in Hamilton.
Yep.  The people of southern Ontario deserve a good team to cheer for, even though they're a bunch of NDP scum.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM


I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.


:o
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
I only caught the 3rd period of Thursday's game.  CBJ didn't look very physical.  Are they really so limp or had they given up by that point?  They were down 4-1, but still.  Detroit has come back in the 3rd and won.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2009, 12:36:50 PM
Go Rangers!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
Motherfucking Rangers.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
I only caught the 3rd period of Thursday's game.  CBJ didn't look very physical.  Are they really so limp or had they given up by that point?  They were down 4-1, but still.  Detroit has come back in the 3rd and won.

I only caught the 1st period of that game (then switched over to the Blackhawks pre-game).  Columbus did play pretty tight in the 1st & had a bunch of "meh" chances, but they never really challenged Osgood & Mason let up the 1st goal on the first Detroit 2-on-1.  My take on watching that period (& by extension my take on the series) is that Columbus would have to play almost perfect D & then get a couple/few flukes past Osgood in order to win -- something that I think Columbus can probably do in 1 game in this series & maybe two, but there's no way that the Blue Jackets are winning this series.

I would like to be proven wrong, but I don't see it happening...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
I'd rather see the cup go back to Detroit than come back to Canada if it meant that Vancouver would win.

Whoa there, Pork Chop -- I have zero qualms with your Vancouver Hatin', but there's got to be another way of dissing the Canucks fans without giving *ANY* kind of positive vibes to Detroit.  I can handle that crap from charliebear because she's (allegedly) female & therefore doesn't know any better, but you should definitely know better...

:P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 18, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
Motherfucking Rangers.

:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
I can handle that crap from charliebear because she's (allegedly) female & therefore doesn't know any better, but you should definitely know better...

:P

*Hands on hip*
*Tapping one foot*
*Angry glare*
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:30:09 PM

*Hands on hip*
*Tapping one foot*
*Angry glare*
I don't share neil's hate, but dammit your team is boring to watch.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:30:09 PM

*Hands on hip*
*Tapping one foot*
*Angry glare*
I don't share neil's hate, but dammit your team is boring to watch.

Why?  Because they're good?  HVee, give me an honest answer, please.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 18, 2009, 06:30:09 PM

*Hands on hip*
*Tapping one foot*
*Angry glare*
I don't share neil's hate, but dammit your team is boring to watch.

Why?  Because they're good?  HVee, give me an honest answer, please.
They're good, yes. I don't know, maybe it's their pace? i just find them boring. i'm just waiting for the boston game and nothing else is on.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 18, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Red Wings are the Yankees of Hockey, passionless boring teams to watch.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Red Wings are the Yankees of Hockey, passionless boring teams to watch.
ya, i think that's it. Very technical, very good, but no heart. even when they hit it's like they're hitting becasue that's the right thing to do at the given moment, not becasue they're into the game.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 08:44:59 PM
Calgary is up 2-0.   :)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 08:44:59 PM
Calgary is up 2-0.   :)

Getting Jokinen away from Iginla is a good move.

Altho, they seem to share assists on the 2nd goal. Middle of Change?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 08:44:59 PM
Calgary is up 2-0.   :)

Yup.  The Hawks are in a pretty deep hole -- not an insurmountable one, but if Calgary goes up 3-0 then it's pretty much Goodnight, Irene.  That being said, though, the Hawks are a good bounce away from 2-1...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 08:44:59 PM
Calgary is up 2-0.   :)

Yup.  The Hawks are in a pretty deep hole -- not an insurmountable one, but if Calgary goes up 3-0 then it's pretty much Goodnight, Irene.  That being said, though, the Hawks are a good bounce away from 2-1...

:ccr

All true.   I feel good, but am hardly turning off the tv at this point...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: JacobL on April 18, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Red Wings are the Yankees of Hockey, passionless boring teams to watch.
ya, i think that's it. Very technical, very good, but no heart. even when they hit it's like they're hitting becasue that's the right thing to do at the given moment, not becasue they're into the game.
I could see being unhappy with them over being "yankee" like but to say they have no passion???  This is the same franchise who had 'generational' goalie fights!  Same franchise that is extremely set on vengeance for dirty play against them as recorded on youtube.  To say they have no heart is just a crummy attempt to dodge the true reason people dislike them, jealousy.  I can understand disliking them for sucking up good players from other teams but the reason they can do so is not just winning but they also have a great team chemistry and are a great franchise to play for period.

Sure I am biased but that doesn't change the fact the team is far from being without heart.  Despite all their recent success they still have more fight and fire in them then 1/2 the other hockey teams in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 09:34:09 PM
2-2 :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 09:34:09 PM
2-2 :angry:

:D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: JacobL on April 18, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
I could see being unhappy with them over being "yankee" like but to say they have no passion???  This is the same franchise who had 'generational' goalie fights!  Same franchise that is extremely set on vengeance for dirty play against them as recorded on youtube.  To say they have no heart is just a crummy attempt to dodge the true reason people dislike them, jealousy.  I can understand disliking them for sucking up good players from other teams but the reason they can do so is not just winning but they also have a great team chemistry and are a great franchise to play for period.

Sure I am biased but that doesn't change the fact the team is far from being without heart.  Despite all their recent success they still have more fight and fire in them then 1/2 the other hockey teams in the playoffs.

I agree with that 95%.  I'll readily admit that  I am jealous of their success, but to be fair I've hated the Red Wings for 25 years -- just like I hated the Minnesota North Stars & Toronto Maple Leafs, and how I still hate the St. Louis Blues.  It was a little something called the Norris Division, and I miss it so...

:(

That being said, though, what an excellent 2nd period by the Blackhawks.  This is pretty much how they have played most of the year, and I hope that they can keep it up for another 20 minutes...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 18, 2009, 09:56:48 PM
Bruins crushed the Canadians. ^_^
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 18, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
Go Chee-ka-go!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Ca we ban the Boston bangwagonner from this thread? I like Tim and all but Bruins-lover shouldn't be tolerated.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 09:54:17 PM
It was a little something called the Norris Division, and I miss it so...
:ccr

Much as I miss the Smythe Division. :(

BTW - Blackhawks must die.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Ca we ban the Boston bangwagonner from this thread? I like Tim and all but Bruins-lover shouldn't be tolerated.
I'm not a lover, but it's a foregone conclusion that they'll win the series. i thought montreal would at least win this game. i stay say they'll choke at home once the fickle fans turn on them.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 18, 2009, 10:40:59 PM
Damn Calgary
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 18, 2009, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
BTW - Blackhawks must die.

I love you, too...

:wub:

The Blackhawks finally put together a couple of periods playing at the level that they've been showing all year, and it paid off nicely.  I hope that they can take the up-tempo game that they just played to the Saddledome with them...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 19, 2009, 08:27:47 AM
Like my imitation of the sports media? Just like them I haven't even acknowledged that the Hurricanes are playing the Devils.

However, that OT win was sweet, and soon, once again, the world will have to pay attention to the South!!!

Hell, we even won with Hassenfrass and Van Massenhoven officiating. They always call a biased game against us.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Ca we ban the Boston bangwagonner from this thread? I like Tim and all but Bruins-lover shouldn't be tolerated.
I'm not a lover, but it's a foregone conclusion that they'll win the series. i thought montreal would at least win this game. i stay say they'll choke at home once the fickle fans turn on them.
I just don't think that Montreal is as good as the Bruins, with the way they've played.  Price is too rattled, no Markov is devastating, and nobody has stepped up to replace Streit and Ryder.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
BTW - Blackhawks must die.
Calgary must stop choking.  They lost the first game through sloppy play (and a goal that probably should have been disallowed).
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 19, 2009, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Ca we ban the Boston bangwagonner from this thread? I like Tim and all but Bruins-lover shouldn't be tolerated.
I'm not a lover, but it's a foregone conclusion that they'll win the series. i thought montreal would at least win this game. i stay say they'll choke at home once the fickle fans turn on them.
I just don't think that Montreal is as good as the Bruins, with the way they've played.  Price is too rattled, no Markov is devastating, and nobody has stepped up to replace Streit and Ryder.

On this I agree with Neil %100. I wish the teams could be more competitive. Nothing would be more awesome than a GREAT series between these two Original Six teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 19, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 19, 2009, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 18, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Ca we ban the Boston bangwagonner from this thread? I like Tim and all but Bruins-lover shouldn't be tolerated.
I'm not a lover, but it's a foregone conclusion that they'll win the series. i thought montreal would at least win this game. i stay say they'll choke at home once the fickle fans turn on them.
I just don't think that Montreal is as good as the Bruins, with the way they've played.  Price is too rattled, no Markov is devastating, and nobody has stepped up to replace Streit and Ryder.

On this I agree with Neil %100. I wish the teams could be more competitive. Nothing would be more awesome than a GREAT series between these two Original Six teams.
Price had some good saves, but montreal had trouble containing the forecheck. there's only so much a  goalie can do. was it me or was there some tension between Price and the other Montreal players? I mean even after he made some amazing saves i didn't see any congratulations from his defense or anything. I mean other teams pat the goalie with their stick or something, but montreal just seemed to skate past Price.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 19, 2009, 01:22:26 PM
Losing Markov is crippling. Replacing Streit was done late this season by Schneider.

The problem is Price. Halak should be in the goal.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 19, 2009, 01:28:48 PM
Quote from: JacobL on April 18, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 18, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 18, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Red Wings are the Yankees of Hockey, passionless boring teams to watch.
ya, i think that's it. Very technical, very good, but no heart. even when they hit it's like they're hitting becasue that's the right thing to do at the given moment, not becasue they're into the game.
I could see being unhappy with them over being "yankee" like but to say they have no passion???  This is the same franchise who had 'generational' goalie fights!  Same franchise that is extremely set on vengeance for dirty play against them as recorded on youtube.  To say they have no heart is just a crummy attempt to dodge the true reason people dislike them, jealousy.  I can understand disliking them for sucking up good players from other teams but the reason they can do so is not just winning but they also have a great team chemistry and are a great franchise to play for period.

Sure I am biased but that doesn't change the fact the team is far from being without heart.  Despite all their recent success they still have more fight and fire in them then 1/2 the other hockey teams in the playoffs.


Yeah!  What he said!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 19, 2009, 01:22:26 PM
Losing Markov is crippling. Replacing Streit was done late this season by Schneider.
Perhaps, but they're still less than they were last year, whereas Boston has improved.
QuoteThe problem is Price. Halak should be in the goal.
Even if Halak steps his game way up in the playoffs, he's still not good enough to compensate for Boston's superior firepower and physicality.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 19, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Price had some good saves, but montreal had trouble containing the forecheck. there's only so much a  goalie can do.
I didn't see last night's game, but Game 1 he was bobbling the puck and letting out some bad rebounds.  He's made some good saves, to be sure, but he's also made some very shaky saves.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 19, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 19, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Price had some good saves, but montreal had trouble containing the forecheck. there's only so much a  goalie can do.
I didn't see last night's game, but Game 1 he was bobbling the puck and letting out some bad rebounds.  He's made some good saves, to be sure, but he's also made some very shaky saves.

That's the Drunktard Indian for you. He's alot like Theodore in that respect.

You are probably right, even with an Halak stealing games. The fact that Plekanec & both SK & AK are totally useless will make winning a game impossible.

The fact that Boston seems totally immune to penalties doesn't help either.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 19, 2009, 02:51:16 PM
My guy Lundqvist is really messing up the plans of those Caps.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
(and a goal that probably should have been disallowed).

Nope.  Sharp was clearly pushed.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
(and a goal that probably should have been disallowed).

Nope.  Sharp was clearly pushed.
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

Of course, it doesn't really matter.  No half-assed turnover, no shot, no need to disallow the goal.  Calgary beat themselves with their shitty play.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 19, 2009, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

Of course, it doesn't really matter.  No half-assed turnover, no shot, no need to disallow the goal.  Calgary beat themselves with their shitty play.

You have seen that? In the past year?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

"A flop on the goalie?"  Are we talking about the same game?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

"A flop on the goalie?"  Are we talking about the same game?
Yes.

Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 19, 2009, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

"A flop on the goalie?"  Are we talking about the same game?
Yes.

Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.
Looks like the blues winded themselves after the first period. not hitting as hard. Still hitting though, and that's the way they need to play to win. Luongo is justa  great goalie.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 19, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

Luckily you're you, an idiot and probably an indian.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 19, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

Luckily you're you, an idiot and probably an indian.
:banned:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 19, 2009, 10:26:35 PM
canucks will sweep.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 19, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
:cry:

Sharks are doing their best Red Wings imitation

:lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:15:06 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 19, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
:cry:

Sharks are doing their best Red Wings imitation

:lol:
Seems to be the only real upset going on.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 09:15:29 AM
So what the Caps lost the first two games at home....Ovechkin will still save them right?  Right?

:cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 20, 2009, 09:25:15 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 09:15:29 AM
So what the Caps lost the first two games at home....Ovechkin will still save them right?  Right?

:cry:

If anyone can, he can.  He is a fine young man.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 18, 2009, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2009, 11:23:39 AM

I'm not really a hockey fan - I'm just a Flames fan.  When the Flames season is over, hockey is over for me.

well, shit. you could have done yourself a favour and picked a better team. :P
To be fair, it would be difficult to predict their run of injuries and chokeing.

And yet I was able to do it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

You have lost all grip on reality.  You need to replace Blues with Hawks and Canucks with Flames.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

You have lost all grip on reality.  You need to replace Blues with Hawks and Canucks with Flames.

:rolleyes:

Neither game qualifies as a "crushing".  We'll see if a couple games in the Saddledome don't turn things around.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

You have lost all grip on reality.  You need to replace Blues with Hawks and Canucks with Flames.

:rolleyes:

Neither game qualifies as a "crushing".  We'll see if a couple games in the Saddledome don't turn things around.

being down 2-0 is pretty crushing.  Being up on 3-0 on the other hand is quite different which is why Neil has lost his grip and why the juxtapostion is appropriote.

With all the pressure of being down 2-0 we will see if the flames can perform at home.  It didn't work for the Blues.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

You have lost all grip on reality.  You need to replace Blues with Hawks and Canucks with Flames.

:rolleyes:

Neither game qualifies as a "crushing".  We'll see if a couple games in the Saddledome don't turn things around.

being down 2-0 is pretty crushing.  Being up on 3-0 on the other hand is quite different which is why Neil has lost his grip and why the juxtapostion is appropriote.

With all the pressure of being down 2-0 we will see if the flames can perform at home.  It didn't work for the Blues.
I was referring to the one game where the Blues were up 1-0, before the Canucks started cheating and Bettman's love for them caused the refs to give them the game.

I wish death or injury to all Canucks players, and all their bandwagon scumbag fans.  Those weaklings have never won a Stanley Cup, and they never will.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
being down 2-0 is pretty crushing. 

Yes...yes it is :weep:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stanleycup/E2vE7/story/2009/04/20/sp-rangers-caps-game3.html
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
2-0 isn't the end of the world.  3-0 is crushing, but you can come back from 2-0, especially if you're going home.  Of course, if you've just dropped game 1 and 2 in your own house...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
Of course, if you've just dropped game 1 and 2 in your own house...

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 20, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
2-0 isn't the end of the world.  3-0 is crushing, but you can come back from 2-0, especially if you're going home.  Of course, if you've just dropped game 1 and 2 in your own house...

That's a mighty long road to walk.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:31:08 AM
Quote from: charliebear on April 20, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
2-0 isn't the end of the world.  3-0 is crushing, but you can come back from 2-0, especially if you're going home.  Of course, if you've just dropped game 1 and 2 in your own house...

That's a mighty long road to walk.
To be sure.  But it's not impossible, and so you should stay upbeat, especially if the games have been close.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:33:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Those weaklings have never won a Stanley Cup, and they never will.

Given that you predicted that the Canucks would be swept I take it you havent been watching hockey for that last couple of months.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 20, 2009, 11:34:03 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:31:08 AM
Quote from: charliebear on April 20, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
2-0 isn't the end of the world.  3-0 is crushing, but you can come back from 2-0, especially if you're going home.  Of course, if you've just dropped game 1 and 2 in your own house...

That's a mighty long road to walk.
To be sure.  But it's not impossible, and so you should stay upbeat, especially if the games have been close.

That definitely takes an amount of mental toughness.  When's the last time that happened?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 20, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
It's so going to be Price again tonite. :bleeding:

Atleast the Ducks are winning.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:33:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Those weaklings have never won a Stanley Cup, and they never will.

Given that you predicted that the Canucks would be swept I take it you havent been watching hockey for that last couple of months.
I will always predict against the Canucks.  I would predict that the U of A Golden Bears would sweep the Canucks, because the Canucks are the Patriots of the NHL, only without the winning.  Souless, evil and surrounded by legions of bandwagonners.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

You have lost all grip on reality.  You need to replace Blues with Hawks and Canucks with Flames.

:rolleyes:

Neither game qualifies as a "crushing".  We'll see if a couple games in the Saddledome don't turn things around.

being down 2-0 is pretty crushing.  Being up on 3-0 on the other hand is quite different which is why Neil has lost his grip and why the juxtapostion is appropriote.

With all the pressure of being down 2-0 we will see if the flames can perform at home.  It didn't work for the Blues.

I dunno, the Hawks managed to come from being down 2-0 in game 2... <_<

Tonight will be critical.  Being down 3-0 is nigh impossible, but if its 2-1 its still anyone's series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 20, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
Lundqvist for Conn Smythe!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 20, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 19, 2009, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 19, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Doesn't matter in the slightest.  It was a little push that the player embellished into a flop on the goalie.  I've seen that sort of thing called before.

"A flop on the goalie?"  Are we talking about the same game?
Yes.

Blues are crushing the Canucks.  If I were a Canucks fan, I'd kill myself.

:rolleyes: yeah the Blues are so in control: down 3 games to nil. got the Canucks right where they want them.

Actually the Blues aren't playing terrible, they just don't have the same finesse and Mason however good he maybe is no Luongo.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 20, 2009, 01:45:37 PM
To be fair, Neil wrote that right after the 1st Period.

A 1st period that the Blues dominated.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 11:48:33 AM
Tonight will be critical.  Being down 3-0 is nigh impossible, but if its 2-1 its still anyone's series.

Agreed.  A win tonight would be a huge momentum builder for the Flames...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
Agreed.  A win tonight would be a huge momentum builder for the Flames...

Now that is looking on the bright side of things.  Without a win tonight they can kiss the series goodbye.

So, yes they will have momentum in the sense that elimination is just a probability and not a certainty.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
Agreed.  A win tonight would be a huge momentum builder for the Flames...

Now that is looking on the bright side of things.  Without a win tonight they can kiss the series goodbye.

So, yes they will have momentum in the sense that elimination is just a probability and not a certainty.

Also agreed...

:menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
John Tortorella is great.  His abuse of sports journalists is great.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
Bad third period for Montreal. only like 5 shots. The whole game they played iffy. bad passes down the middle.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 20, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
Flames down by 1 early after a bad penalty by Jokinen.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
god damn calgary.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 20, 2009, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
god damn calgary.

Woohoo, woohoo :w00t:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 20, 2009, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
god damn calgary.

Woohoo, woohoo :w00t:
I'm not really routing for calgary, but i have a chicago fan colleague who i want to annoy :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:54:09 PM
Also, how about them Sharks Katmai? :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 20, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Well, the Flames have tied it up again, it's not over yet!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 20, 2009, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2009, 08:54:09 PM
Also, how about them Sharks Katmai? :P

They had one hell of a regular season!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
Ok I watched the first two periods and then had to go out to eat.

Fortunately the third was nothing but beautiful beautiful Cap domination.  :menace:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fmedia%2Fapphoto%2F4a40a78d-41ad-45ba-b97a-00e1d6544444.jpg&hash=f876ce527bc754643aa084d8611a5527fa94ae9f)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 20, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Well, the Flames have tied it up again, it's not over yet!

Indeed.  It's a fun game -- this one could easily go either way...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 20, 2009, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 20, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Well, the Flames have tied it up again, it's not over yet!

Indeed.  It's a fun game -- this one could easily go either way...
This has been the best series of the playoffs so far.  Neither team has given a really stinky performance.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 10:17:58 PM
Calgary finally got some good bounces -- a goofy carom off of Khabibulin's blocker finds the back of the net, and then Phaneuf got away with a high stick late in the period.  Still another twenty minutes to play, though, and I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can get a couple more bounces their way...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 20, 2009, 10:17:58 PM
Calgary finally got some good bounces -- a goofy carom off of Khabibulin's blocker finds the back of the net, and then Phaneuf got away with a high stick late in the period.  Still another twenty minutes to play, though, and I'm hoping that the Blackhawks can get a couple more bounces their way...

:ccr

:console:



So I'm perplexed.  First two games I watched intently, wearing my Calgary jersey - and they lose.

Tonight I'm on the road (in Dawson City), and only just now caught the highlights - and they won.

So should I start ignoring the series? :unsure:  Or maybe it's just the jersey thats unlucky? :unsure:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 11:27:45 PM

:console:



So I'm perplexed.  First two games I watched intently, wearing my Calgary jersey - and they lose.

Tonight I'm on the road (in Dawson City), and only just now caught the highlights - and they won.

So should I start ignoring the series? :unsure:  Or maybe it's just the jersey thats unlucky? :unsure:
Refs not making calls helped too :lol: . Still, go Calgary!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 20, 2009, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
Still, go Calgary!

:mad:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2009, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 20, 2009, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
Still, go Calgary!

:mad:
:hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 21, 2009, 01:24:05 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
John Tortorella is great.  His abuse of sports journalists is great.

Link me.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:21:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
Ok I watched the first two periods and then had to go out to eat.

Fortunately the third was nothing but beautiful beautiful Cap domination.  :menace:


Avery can't bother a goalie that doesn't speak english.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 06:23:28 AM
Are there any Detroit players you want punched in the nuts tonight? Also, if they allow signs, look for my THEO FLUERY IS MY ANTI-DRUG sign on TV. I should be near ice level.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:24:48 AM
Conkblock.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 21, 2009, 07:30:57 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 21, 2009, 01:24:05 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 20, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
John Tortorella is great.  His abuse of sports journalists is great.

Link me.
Can't link to TV.  :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 21, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
well, I'm getting a TV this week, hopefully tonight after work, so I can keep up.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 21, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 06:23:28 AM
Are there any Detroit players you want punched in the nuts tonight? Also, if they allow signs, look for my THEO FLUERY IS MY ANTI-DRUG sign on TV. I should be near ice level.

It's Fleury, and I will.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 21, 2009, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 06:23:28 AM
Are there any Detroit players you want punched in the nuts tonight? Also, if they allow signs, look for my THEO FLUERY IS MY ANTI-DRUG sign on TV. I should be near ice level.
All of them.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 08:11:10 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 21, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
well, I'm getting a TV this week, hopefully tonight after work, so I can keep up.

So you can watch the CBC?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 08:12:56 AM
Also, Good god I hope Wednesday is Koivu's last game in an Habs uniform.

Been hoping that for 4 years now. Please, pretty please.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 08:14:34 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 21, 2009, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 06:23:28 AM
Are there any Detroit players you want punched in the nuts tonight? Also, if they allow signs, look for my THEO FLUERY IS MY ANTI-DRUG sign on TV. I should be near ice level.
All of them.

My arms will be tired tonight.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 21, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 20, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
So I'm perplexed.  First two games I watched intently, wearing my Calgary jersey - and they lose.

Tonight I'm on the road (in Dawson City), and only just now caught the highlights - and they won.

So should I start ignoring the series? :unsure:  Or maybe it's just the jersey thats unlucky? :unsure:

How's your playoff beard looking?  I trimmed mine, so I think that's what jinxed the Hawks...

:P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
I'm wondering if Monkeybutt really did bring that sign.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 21, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 21, 2009, 06:23:28 AM
Are there any Detroit players you want punched in the nuts tonight? Also, if they allow signs, look for my THEO FLUERY IS MY ANTI-DRUG sign on TV. I should be near ice level.

There's a whole lot of irony involved in calling Theo Fleury an anti-drug... :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep! 1st sweep in playoff history means this is the best Canucks team ever?

Discuss.

bonus question?

Will the week off ruin them?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 22, 2009, 07:04:37 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
I'm wondering if Monkeybutt really did bring that sign.

I didn't bother. Sorta like the Bluejackets, who didn't bother to play hard.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep!

Funny how silent Neil is today.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep!

Funny how silent Neil is today.

No enjoys being that wrong.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 22, 2009, 11:57:59 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep! 1st sweep in playoff history means this is the best Canucks team ever?

Discuss.

bonus question?

Will the week off ruin them?

the best team in Canucks history was a goalpost away from the Stnaley Cup.

a week off should not ruin then, as it allows Sundin to recover from his "lower body injury"

Lou made 47 saves?! wowza.

so we play either Flames or Hawks?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 12:06:53 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 22, 2009, 11:57:59 AM
the best team in Canucks history was a goalpost away from the Stnaley Cup.

Yep, this team will have to win the cup to be better.

But I think they have the players to do it.  This team has even better goaltending, more speed, better defence (which has a lot to do with the speed of the fowards to recover) and more balanced scoring.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 22, 2009, 12:10:16 PM
no Bure-type talent gamebreaker of course. but Luongo> McLean.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep!

Funny how silent Neil is today.
I'll have to wait for the second round to be vindicated.  Either way, the Canucks will be crushed.  Evil will always be punished.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 22, 2009, 11:57:59 AM
so we play either Flames or Hawks?
'We'?

Or the Red Wings.  Depends on whether or not the Sharks choke.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 22, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep!

Funny how silent Neil is today.
I'll have to wait for the second round to be vindicated.  Either way, the Canucks will be crushed.  Evil will always be punished.

:yawn: hardly. Evil goes mostly unpunished, actually.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 22, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
I'll have to wait for the second round to be vindicated.  Either way, the Canucks will be crushed.  Evil will always be punished.

The recent history of the NHL suggests that, in fact, evil is consistently rewarded.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 22, 2009, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 22, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
I'll have to wait for the second round to be vindicated.  Either way, the Canucks will be crushed.  Evil will always be punished.

The recent history of the NHL suggests that, in fact, evil is consistently rewarded.

exactly!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
The fact that Carolina & Tampa Bay have won cup in recent years is simply a recurring joke.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 22, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
:yawn: hardly. Evil goes mostly unpunished, actually.
Not this time.  The Canucks are too stupid to escape justice.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 22, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
The fact that Carolina & Tampa Bay have won cup in recent years is simply a recurring joke.

A very evil joke :grr:

DAMN YOU BETTMAN!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.

:huh:

Riots are only for winning!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.
Indeed.  Montreal should send hit squads to Toronto for cheapshotting Markov out of the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see what the Canadiens come back with next year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:40:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.

:huh:

Riots are only for winning!
People will pick any reason to take stuff. And by people i mean minorities. In this case, you frenchies are minorities :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.
Indeed.  Montreal should send hit squads to Toronto for cheapshotting Markov out of the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see what the Canadiens come back with next year.
How much of their team goes into unrestricted free agency next year?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.
Indeed.  Montreal should send hit squads to Toronto for cheapshotting Markov out of the playoffs.

It'll be interesting to see what the Canadiens come back with next year.
How much of their team goes into unrestricted free agency next year?
Steve Begin
Francis Bouillon
Patrice Brisebois
Mathieu Dandenault
Marc Denis
Saku Koivu
Mike Komisarek
Tom Kostopoulos
Alexei Kovalev
Robert Lang
Alex Tanguay

Which is to say:  Just about everyone.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:49:07 PM

Which is to say:  Just about everyone.
Ouch. looks like it's time for a rebuilding phase.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:49:07 PM

Which is to say:  Just about everyone.
Ouch. looks like it's time for a rebuilding phase.
Well, I'm sure some of those guys will get signed.  Still, Montreal needs to add some size and toughness.  I mean, Laraque is the toughest guy in the league, and a capable player, but he doesn't belong on a first or second line.  Watching Koivu and Kovalev streak around, and then Laraque slowing moving up and down the ice, it just doesn't fit.  Of course, if you take Laraque out, most teams have enough physicality to pound the Canadiens into dust.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 08:14:39 PM
Begin was traded to Dallas back before the deadline.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
Steve Begin
Francis Bouillon
Patrice Brisebois
Mathieu Dandenault
Marc Denis
Saku Koivu
Mike Komisarek
Tom Kostopoulos
Alexei Kovalev
Robert Lang
Alex Tanguay

Which is to say:  Just about everyone.

Mathieu Schneider

And like 12 guys in Hamilton.

I'd keep : Lang, Tanguay, Kovalev & Komisarek. Brisebois & Dandenault should be transformed into defensive coaches.

Kostopoulos will get resigned, the guy barely cost a mil.

Fuck Koivu.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 22, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
As an aside, what's up with Avery? I mean he's a good player when he tries, but he has like no impulse control.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
As an aside, what's up with Avery? I mean he's a good player when he tries, but he has like no impulse control.
What did he do this time?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 22, 2009, 09:33:37 PM
Sweep!  :D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 22, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 22, 2009, 09:33:37 PM
Sweep!  :D
Die, you fucking faggot.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2009, 03:55:53 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 20, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
Lundqvist for Conn Smythe!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 23, 2009, 06:45:52 AM
Conn Smythe aren't won in the first round.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2009, 06:51:31 AM
Obviously not, but I think it's a safe assumption that *if* the Rangers make it all the way (can you lose the final and still get the trophy?) it will be because of Lundqvist.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 23, 2009, 06:54:25 AM
You can, rarely happens tho.

If Rangers win the cup, Lundqvist is a lock.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2009, 07:21:42 AM
Yep, the logical question obviously becomes, how on earth they could win the cup. Well, for one thing, if they can beat the Capitals, they could probably beat anybody if their luck continues to hold. Plus Tortorella coached a team from nowhere to a cup once before.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 23, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 23, 2009, 07:21:42 AM
Yep, the logical question obviously becomes, how on earth they could win the cup. Well, for one thing, if they can beat the Capitals, they could probably beat anybody if their luck continues to hold. Plus Tortorella coached a team from nowhere to a cup once before.

They beat the Southleast Division winner. /golfclap
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 23, 2009, 09:36:44 AM
The Wings should be finishing up the Blue Jackets tonight. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 22, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 22, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 21, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
Canucks Sweep!

Funny how silent Neil is today.
I'll have to wait for the second round to be vindicated.  Either way, the Canucks will be crushed.  Evil will always be punished.

:yawn: hardly. Evil goes mostly unpunished, actually.

I'm doing the best I can. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I just about shat myself when the Flames blew a 3 goal lead in the second.

But they came out with the W in the end. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

It's anybody's series now...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 23, 2009, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I just about shat myself when the Flames blew a 3 goal lead in the second.

But they came out with the W in the end. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

It's anybody's series now...

I didnt think they could do it.  I give them full credit for climbing back into this series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 23, 2009, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 22, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 22, 2009, 07:28:31 PM
Sad way to go for the Habs. Montreal shall burn tonight.

:huh:

Riots are only for winning!

You'd never make it in Vancouver with that attitude. :p
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 23, 2009, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I just about shat myself when the Flames blew a 3 goal lead in the second.

But they came out with the W in the end. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

It's anybody's series now...
Indeed.  This one is the best series of the first round, by far.  Rangers and Caps are in second, but no series can match the scoring, hitting and pacing of Chicago-Calgary.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: JacobL on April 23, 2009, 08:44:24 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 23, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
Good work by the Devils and Flyers.  A shame about the Red Wings, but hopefully they'll do me a favour and destroy the Canucks in round 2.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 02:01:07 AM
Quote from: Strix on April 23, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
They beat the Southleast Division winner. /golfclap

You know, quite a few people think Washington are a pretty good team these days.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 06:08:46 AM
Anaheim :cool:

I'm really surprised by how well Hiller is doing. Not at all by how Thornton has disappeared.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 07:11:29 AM
The irrational Wings haters on this board have always failed to notice the real kings of choking, the Sharks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 24, 2009, 07:29:22 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 07:11:29 AM
The irrational Wings haters on this board have always failed to notice the real kings of choking, the Sharks.

Considering that some of Wings biggest chokes were against the Early Sharks thats funny.

San Jose has just replaced Wings in last 5 years in underacheving you ginger Swedish git!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 07:40:36 AM
Alaskan Wings hater!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 08:00:12 AM
Wings are choke artists, we got a gilmpse of that last nite.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 24, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Canadian Timmay-style douchebaggery in action:

http://communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/whitetowel/archive/2009/04/22/send-us-your-stanley-cup-parade-route.aspx
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 24, 2009, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 23, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
Good work by the Devils and Flyers.  A shame about the Red Wings, but hopefully they'll do me a favour and destroy the Canucks in round 2.

The Ducks will take out the Wings in a hard fought series while the Canucks sweep whoever survives the Hawks Flames series.

The Canuck's road to the cup will be less difficult then it could have been.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 24, 2009, 09:56:21 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 07:11:29 AM
The irrational Wings haters on this board have always failed to notice the real kings of choking, the Sharks.

Meh, Goalies look a lot better when the other team cant hit the net.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 24, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
ANARCHY!

Quote

After Greg Goloborodko, a 25-year-old Ohio State student, threw the offending cephalopod during the playoff game on Tuesday at Nationwide Arena, he was subdued by a combination of Blue Jackets fans and security and immediately hauled before the Great and Powerful Gary Bettman. From the Columbus Post-Dispatch:

    Goloborodko said he was detained by arena security, threatened by angry Jackets fans and enjoyed a chance encounter with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman before being escorted from the building.

    "As I was being held downstairs, Gary Bettman and his security guys walked by," Goloborodko said. "Like any good hockey fan, I recognized my commissioner and yelled out, 'Hey, Commissioner.' "I heard Bettman say, 'I'm not happy about this one bit.' I don't know if he was responding to me or talking about something else."

Other fun facts: The octopus weighed 2 1/2 pounds, and sailed an estimated 60 feet over the barrier and onto the ice. Goloborodko named it Homer, in honor of forward Tomas Holmstrom. It's his fourth career octopus throw.

    "I had a nice wind up and the little guy just flew," Goloborodko said.

    Elsewhere in Nationwide Arena, Blue Jackets fans pounced on a fan in a Red Wings' No. 91 Sergei Fedorov jersey before he could heave an octopus.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 24, 2009, 12:29:07 PM
Folks in Columbus take hockey seriously?   :blink:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: ulmont on April 24, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 24, 2009, 12:29:07 PM
Folks in Columbus take hockey seriously?   :blink:

It's possible for anyone to take hockey seriously?  :blink:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 24, 2009, 12:39:59 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 24, 2009, 12:29:07 PM
Folks in Columbus take hockey seriously?   :blink:
Why wouldn't they?  They have a team that is improving, and right now is hockey season.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: ulmont on April 24, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: charliebear on April 24, 2009, 12:29:07 PM
Folks in Columbus take hockey seriously?   :blink:

It's possible for anyone to take hockey seriously?  :blink:

You've never been to Montreal, have you?  :lol:

There's 3 daily nite shows dedicated to analyzing/debating the Habs. They like to pretend it's about sports, but really it's just the Habs.

Also, Basketball lovers need to die.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jacob on April 24, 2009, 01:22:46 PM
What's with the octopus throwing?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 01:27:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 24, 2009, 01:22:46 PM
What's with the octopus throwing?

It's a lot like the National Anthems, a stupid tradition.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on April 24, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 24, 2009, 01:22:46 PM
What's with the octopus throwing?

It started out a long time ago in an arena far, far away.  Back when there were fewer teams, a club would have to win eight games to win the Stanley Cup.  A local fishmonger  felt that since an octopus has eight legs, that it would be lucky.  Tradition was born.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 24, 2009, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I just about shat myself when the Flames blew a 3 goal lead in the second.

But they came out with the W in the end. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

It's anybody's series now...

I was sick Wednesday night & probably wasn't going to stay up late anyways, so I turned the TV off after the 2nd Calgary goal in the 2nd period.  Which is probably just as well -- if I had stayed up late enough to see the 2nd period end 4-4 & then saw the Hawks lose I probably WOULD have shit myself.

HUGE game tomorrow night, obviously.  I'm looking forward to it.  I think the situation merits The Whole Shabang:  grilled animal flesh, fancy beer, busting out the #69 Hawks jersey & posting pics of my playoff beard.  Whatever it takes, Baby...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 24, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 02:01:07 AM
Quote from: Strix on April 23, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
They beat the Southleast Division winner. /golfclap

You know, quite a few people think Washington are a pretty good team these days.

Find a good goalie than you will be.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 24, 2009, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 24, 2009, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 23, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I just about shat myself when the Flames blew a 3 goal lead in the second.

But they came out with the W in the end. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

It's anybody's series now...

I was sick Wednesday night & probably wasn't going to stay up late anyways, so I turned the TV off after the 2nd Calgary goal in the 2nd period.  Which is probably just as well -- if I had stayed up late enough to see the 2nd period end 4-4 & then saw the Hawks lose I probably WOULD have shit myself.

HUGE game tomorrow night, obviously.  I'm looking forward to it.  I think the situation merits The Whole Shabang:  grilled animal flesh, fancy beer, busting out the #69 Hawks jersey & posting pics of my playoff beard.  Whatever it takes, Baby...

:ccr

That's almost exactly my thought (well, no playoff beard).  I might even dig out my Flames socks. :alberta:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Quote from: Strix on April 24, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Delirium on April 24, 2009, 02:01:07 AM
Quote from: Strix on April 23, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
They beat the Southleast Division winner. /golfclap

You know, quite a few people think Washington are a pretty good team these days.


Find a good goalie than you will be.

Theodore is a good....oh I see what you did there!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 24, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 24, 2009, 04:51:07 PM


That's almost exactly my thought (well, no playoff beard).  I might even dig out my Flames socks. :alberta:

It seems I'll be shaving tomorrow as Sharks season comes to an end :cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 24, 2009, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 24, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 24, 2009, 04:51:07 PM


That's almost exactly my thought (well, no playoff beard).  I might even dig out my Flames socks. :alberta:

It seems I'll be shaving tomorrow as Sharks season comes to an end :cry:

I shaved wednesday. :cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 24, 2009, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 24, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 24, 2009, 04:51:07 PM


That's almost exactly my thought (well, no playoff beard).  I might even dig out my Flames socks. :alberta:

It seems I'll be shaving tomorrow as Sharks season comes to an end :cry:

:console:

Well, it's not over yet.  ALMOST over, sure, but the Sharks could still pull one out of their ass.  Well, THREE, actually, but work with me here...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 08:01:14 PM
Hey -- win, lose or draw, this Calgary/Chicago series has truly been something special, and no matter who wins I hope that they go on to Bigger & Better Things this year.  So, with no further adieu...

-

-

-

-

-

-

FUCK CALGARY!!!

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 25, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 25, 2009, 08:17:25 PM
Is that your infected finger you are flashing us with?

:P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 08:28:03 PM
Hawks draw first blood. :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Oh FFS. :bleeding:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 25, 2009, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 08:28:03 PM
Hawks draw first blood. :angry:

and second & third.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 08:48:45 PM
That was just plain ugly.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 25, 2009, 08:17:25 PM
Is that your infected finger you are flashing us with?

:P

Why, yes.  Yes it was...

If nothing else, though, this series between these two teams has shown me that IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER.  I'd love to gloat & shit, but both of these teams are capable of turning a three goal lead into a loss toot-fucking-sweet.  No rest for the wicked, Baby.  I hope the Hawks come out in the 2nd playing as hard as they did in the first, or else things are going to slip sideways awful fucking quick...

:Canuck:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
Kipper has been pulled.

4-1 Chicago.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 25, 2009, 09:17:08 PM
He'll be back.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 25, 2009, 09:19:32 PM
damn you calgary
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 25, 2009, 09:24:10 PM
 :nelson
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2009, 09:19:32 PM
damn you calgary
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
Stick a fork in it, this game is done.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 25, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
Stick a fork in it, this game is done.
your team has to start winning on away ice. haven't won like 10 in a row?


@ Kat, my team didn't even make the playoffs, nothing you can say will add to that disappointment :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 25, 2009, 09:35:08 PM
fucking CBC is having so much trouble with their broadcast, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 09:42:16 PM
Once again, I would like to stress that IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER...

That being said, though, the Flames came out in the 2nd period playing like gangbusters & I was shitting my pants.  If the Hawks want to hold onto this one they need to come out in the 3rd playing like they did in the 1st & the latter part of the 2nd...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 10:10:51 PM
They couldn't even score on a 5 on 3. :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 25, 2009, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
Stick a fork in it, this game is done.
your team has to start winning on away ice. haven't won like 10 in a row?


@ Kat, my team didn't even make the playoffs, nothing you can say will add to that disappointment :lol:

My 1a team will be out tonight probably <_<
team 1b needs to finish of the caps :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 25, 2009, 10:37:02 PM
My 1a team will be out tonight probably <_<
team 1b needs to finish of the caps :angry:

Can the Blackhawks be your 1c team?

:wub:

Although I just turned on the Sharks-Ducks game & the St. Joe Carnivorous Fish are up 2-0 thus far...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
Uh, make that 2-2 now...

:unsure:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 25, 2009, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
Uh, make that 2-2 now...

:unsure:

:cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 25, 2009, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 25, 2009, 10:42:54 PM

Can the Blackhawks be your 1c team?

:wub:

Although I just turned on the Sharks-Ducks game & the St. Joe Carnivorous Fish are up 2-0 thus far...


Certainly!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 25, 2009, 11:43:54 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2009, 10:10:51 PM
They couldn't even score on a 5 on 3. :angry:
Calgary's injuries have fucked them up at the worst time possible.  They'll be done soon.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 26, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
Miroslav Satan is still the coolest hockey name EVER.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Syt on April 26, 2009, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
Miroslav Satan is still the coolest hockey name EVER.

Note the link to his profile at CNN/SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/players/666/
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 26, 2009, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 26, 2009, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 26, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
Miroslav Satan is still the coolest hockey name EVER.

Note the link to his profile at CNN/SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/players/666/

Lolz, SI has a sense of humor.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 26, 2009, 09:24:43 AM
I watched the pens game on the recycled toshiba. great comeback.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 26, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
The NHL will pay for suspending Tortorella.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 26, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
The NHL will pay for suspending Tortorella.

He's not a good coach. Actually, I just miss him has a TSN analyst. He was MUCH better then Peter Laviosuck.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 26, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 26, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
The NHL will pay for suspending Tortorella.

He's not a good coach. Actually, I just miss him has a TSN analyst. He was MUCH better then Peter Laviosuck.
He turned around the Rangers.  Credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 27, 2009, 08:03:29 PM
Go Caps!  Ovechkin will not be denied!  DA!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:04:25 PM
Game 6 is upon us. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:04:25 PM
Game 6 is upon us. Go Hawks!

Die.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 08:31:16 PM
this eastern time zone thing means I have to stay up late. not usually a problem, but it takes an adjustment.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Aw fuck.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.

Why do you hate a good Winnipeg boy like Jonathan Toews?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
Fuck x 2
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.

Why do you hate a good Winnipeg boy like Jonathan Toews?

Because he plays for Chicago.  D'uh. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.

Why do you hate a good Winnipeg boy like Jonathan Toews?
Because I hate everything about Winnipeg.  It's a huge truck stop populated mostly by assorted brands of Indians.  It is also an NDP stronghold.  They had a general strike there, and strikes are morally wrong.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
Fuck x 2
Well, that's it for Calgary.  Maybe if their whole team wasn't hurt, they could come back from this.  But as they are, no chance.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 27, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
fuck you calgary.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
Fuck x 2
Well, that's it for Calgary.  Maybe if their whole team wasn't hurt, they could come back from this.  But as they are, no chance.

Eh, Calgary was playing pretty well the second half of the period.  I shall not give up my faith in the flaming C.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Because I hate everything about Winnipeg.  It's a huge truck stop populated mostly by assorted brands of Indians.  It is also an NDP stronghold.  They had a general strike there, and strikes are morally wrong.

:rolleyes:

You have to go back 90 years to come up with something?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Because I hate everything about Winnipeg.  It's a huge truck stop populated mostly by assorted brands of Indians.  It is also an NDP stronghold.  They had a general strike there, and strikes are morally wrong.

:rolleyes:

You have to go back 90 years to come up with something?
The truck stop, indians and NDP remain true to this day.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Because I hate everything about Winnipeg.  It's a huge truck stop populated mostly by assorted brands of Indians.  It is also an NDP stronghold.  They had a general strike there, and strikes are morally wrong.

:rolleyes:

You have to go back 90 years to come up with something?
The truck stop, indians and NDP remain true to this day.

Plenty of white conservative supporters in the Peg.  And the truck stop comment just, isn't accurate.  :huh:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
Plenty of white conservative supporters in the Peg.  And the truck stop comment just, isn't accurate.  :huh:
Not enough.

And yeah, the truck stop stuff is over, because there's no need to send trucks across Canada anymore.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 09:59:28 PM
Well that's probably the game right there.  :cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 27, 2009, 10:25:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.

Everybody except me...

:wub: f/Grey Fox

Except this game is still far from over.  Khabibulin has been standing on his head tonight & has been the difference in the game.  Well, that & my cunning plan to drink Labatt's Blue tonight so that I can get inside the Canadian's heads & crawl around in the pelts for awhile.  But, that's a story for another time...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 27, 2009, 10:25:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 27, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
First Blood!
Every single person on earth wishes you would die.

Everybody except me...

:wub: f/Grey Fox

Except this game is still far from over.  Khabibulin has been standing on his head tonight & has been the difference in the game.  Well, that & my cunning plan to drink Labatt's Blue tonight so that I can get inside the Canadian's heads & crawl around in the pelts for awhile.  But, that's a story for another time...

:ccr

That can't be it - I'm drinking Blue and the Flames are still losing...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 10:30:18 PM
Finally!

Must drink more Blue...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 27, 2009, 11:02:37 PM
bah
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:04:36 PM
:weep:

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:04:50 PM
:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:05:05 PM
:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:05:36 PM
:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:08:59 PM
another first round exit. :alberta:

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 27, 2009, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 10:30:18 PM
Finally!

Must drink more Blue...

Oh, I like Blue a lot.  I mostly drink PBR & drink Guiness whenever I can get my mitts on it, but Labatt's Blue & Negra Modelo definitely make (relatively) frequent appearances in my repertoire.

That was a sweet fucking goal by Bertuzzi at the start of the third period -- so sweet & so early that I was ready to poop my pants.  The Flames played a hell of a series, and as much as I'm personally worn out on Keenan & his conniving ways I'm hoping that the rumors I've heard aren't true & the Flames keep him around.  They really do have a good team, but some key injuries at a poor time on their part & a Blackhawks team that found their stride at the right time this year all just happened to collide at once.

That all being said, though, it's now safe to Scoreboard Watch.  The Ducks are up on the Sharks 3-1 in the 2nd intermission, and if they can hang on it'll be Hawks/Vancouver & Detroit/Anaheim in the 2nd round...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 27, 2009, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(

The time zone thing has been fucking killing me, too -- and given a choice between the Hawks playing Vancouver or San Jose next round isn't likely to help any, either.  I usually go to bed at 9pm so that I can roll out at 5am, so these 8pm starts CALGARY TIME (9pm Chicago time) have really knocked my dick in the dirt.  I couldn't even make it up for game 4.  I was very, very grateful for the 7:30pm MTN/8:30pm Central start tonight...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(

common sense. I live here. DST and all.

but, you may viciously assault me if I ever become a Leafs fan. never again.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:50:53 PM
ok, ducks have sharks in a steel cage of underwater doom. I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 27, 2009, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(

The time zone thing has been fucking killing me, too -- and given a choice between the Hawks playing Vancouver or San Jose next round isn't likely to help any, either.  I usually go to bed at 9pm so that I can roll out at 5am, so these 8pm starts CALGARY TIME (9pm Chicago time) have really knocked my dick in the dirt.  I couldn't even make it up for game 4.  I was very, very grateful for the 7:30pm MTN/8:30pm Central start tonight...

:ccr

Yeah, my heart is bleeding for you having to stay up late  to watch your team in round two. <_< <_< <_<
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:52:05 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(

common sense. I live here. DST and all.

but, you may viciously assault me if I ever become a Leafs fan. never again.

You live in Toronto.  I need no more reason to viciously assault than that.

:reformparty:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 28, 2009, 01:14:23 AM
Sharks choking? Who would have guessed?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 01:16:56 AM
Quote from: Delirium on April 28, 2009, 01:14:23 AM
Sharks choking? Who would have guessed?

I just hope your Conn Smythe winner can you know last a whole fricking game tomorrow :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 28, 2009, 01:24:32 AM
Just wanting to add to the excitement. I'm not worried.  :P

:cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 06:23:43 AM
The West is almost perfect this year :yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 07:16:35 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(
He's right though.  Pacific time is retarded.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 07:18:16 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:52:05 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 27, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
a detroit/hawks conference finale would be a bonanza.

I hope its not canucks/ducks. timezone is all wrong.
It didn't take you long to become an EST snob. :(

common sense. I live here. DST and all.

but, you may viciously assault me if I ever become a Leafs fan. never again.

You live in Toronto.  I need no more reason to viciously assault than that.

:reformparty:

you mean the: REE-form party. :manning:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 07:30:36 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 07:18:16 AM
you mean the: REE-form party. :manning:
If you're doing Manning, you should add the 'of Canada' to that.  'The REE-fooorm Party of Canada'.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 09:13:07 AM
very very good. :bowler:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 28, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
The most disappointing thing I have learned in this thread is that people still drink the piss water labeled as Labatts.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 11:33:32 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 28, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
The most disappointing thing I have learned in this thread is that people still drink the piss water labeled as Labatts.

CCR did it as a form of cross cultural voodoo. BB drinks it because its cheap.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 11:33:32 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 28, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
The most disappointing thing I have learned in this thread is that people still drink the piss water labeled as Labatts.

CCR did it as a form of cross cultural voodoo. BB drinks it because its cheap.

I think it's a fine midpoint beer.  There are better, more expensive beers.  There are worse, cheaper beers.  But its definitely my favourite mass market beer.  :)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 28, 2009, 04:10:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 11:51:05 PM
Yeah, my heart is bleeding for you having to stay up late  to watch your team in round two. <_< <_< <_<

I'll muddle through somehow, I suppose...  :(

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
I think it's a fine midpoint beer.  There are better, more expensive beers.  There are worse, cheaper beers.  But its definitely my favourite mass market beer.  :)

It's the PBR of Canada...

:shifty:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on April 28, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 28, 2009, 04:10:14 PM

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
I think it's a fine midpoint beer.  There are better, more expensive beers.  There are worse, cheaper beers.  But its definitely my favourite mass market beer.  :)

It's the PBR of Canada...

:shifty:

Lakeport is the PBR of Canada. :Canuck:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 28, 2009, 04:10:14 PM

It's the PBR of Canada...

:shifty:

Not a perfect analogy.  IIRC PBR is fairly downmarket in the US, although a step above Milwaukee's Best or something similar.

Blue is solidly midmarket, priced the same as Molson Canadian or even Budweiser.  I think you'd find that Pilsner is the PBR of Canada.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 28, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 28, 2009, 04:10:14 PM

It's the PBR of Canada...

:shifty:

Not a perfect analogy.  IIRC PBR is fairly downmarket in the US, although a step above Milwaukee's Best or something similar.

Blue is solidly midmarket, priced the same as Molson Canadian or even Budweiser.  I think you'd find that Pilsner is the PBR of Canada.

I thought Molson and Blue were the drink of the working poor.  It was when I was.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on April 28, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 28, 2009, 04:10:14 PM

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
I think it's a fine midpoint beer.  There are better, more expensive beers.  There are worse, cheaper beers.  But its definitely my favourite mass market beer.  :)

It's the PBR of Canada...

:shifty:

Lakeport is the PBR of Canada. :Canuck:

"lowest legal price oneone"

really though, it varies by province, like liquor laws.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 05:26:30 PM
Pilsner is horrid. But it has rabbits, so that makes up a bit of lost ground.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 05:36:47 PM
Pilsner is horrible.  The only people I've ever seen drink it are people from Saskatchewan or are indians.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Pilsner is tolerable.  :)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 05:58:03 PM
But at the risk of ruining my blue-collar beer taste, I just discovered that the local Yukon Brewing Company seels an absolutely marvelous IPA in half gallon "growlers".  It's wonderful stuff. :wub:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Pilsner is tolerable.  :)
See, now I'm confused.  I know you're from Winnipeg, and I also know that you're well-groomed, well-dressed and well-spoken.  And yet you can tolerate a draught of horse piss.  Does not compute.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 06:13:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 05:58:03 PM
But at the risk of ruining my blue-collar beer taste, I just discovered that the local Yukon Brewing Company seels an absolutely marvelous IPA in half gallon "growlers".  It's wonderful stuff. :wub:

Welcome to the dark side.

Most of my beers consumed are locals with the occasional Guinness and Meantime thrown in.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 06:13:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 05:58:03 PM
But at the risk of ruining my blue-collar beer taste, I just discovered that the local Yukon Brewing Company seels an absolutely marvelous IPA in half gallon "growlers".  It's wonderful stuff. :wub:

Welcome to the dark side.

Most of my beers consumed are locals with the occasional Guinness and Meantime thrown in.

Yeah, but you have good beer produced locally.  :huh:  I've tried it, both the Anchorage stuff and the Juneau-based Alaskan Brewing Company.

The stuff Yukon Brewing sells in cans and bottle is pretty poor stuff, but they make some marvelous small batch stuff you can only get on tap (or in a growler).
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:03:11 PM
The Rangers just aren't getting any offence.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:03:11 PM
The Rangers just aren't getting any offence.

Yeah but it was the defense that was so shitty last two games.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
Looks like Valmy's curse doesn't translate outside of soccer.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?

That's what C.C.R. said.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?
Yep.  And because of that, all Canadians are now rooting for the Blackhawks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?
Yep.  And because of that, all Canadians are now rooting for the Blackhawks.

Not me.  Hockey season is over dude.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:43:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Not me.  Hockey season is over dude.
By not standing up to the Vancouverites, you're allowing yourself to be counted amoung them.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?
Yep.  And because of that, all Canadians are now rooting for the Blackhawks.

Not me.  Hockey season is over dude.

You sir are no better then a Patriotard fan.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2009, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
You sir are no better then a Patriotard fan.
Not at all.  Loyalty to one team only isn't a fault, unless that team is evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:13:25 PM
Harsh toke for the Devils. :face:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:13:25 PM
Harsh toke for the Devils. :face:

They were up 3-2. did they grasp defeat from the jaws of victory?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 28, 2009, 09:28:49 PM
Jersy is evil, so it's good that they lost, but that was their game to win.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
turns out
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:13:25 PM
Harsh toke for the Devils. :face:

They were up 3-2. did they grasp defeat from the jaws of victory?

Turns out Brodeur is human. who knew?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 28, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!
They face Vancouver next, right?
Yep.  And because of that, all Canadians are now rooting for the Blackhawks.

Not me.  Hockey season is over dude.

You sir are no better then a Patriotard fan.

Sir, you wound me.  I am the very opposite of a bandwagoneer.  I have my favourite team, and the entire season revolves around that team.  When the Flames are done, I am done.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
Cheer on my Caps BB they have never won anything and are due. :contract:

Down go the Rangers!  On to Stanley Cup glory!

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fmedia%2Fapphoto%2F9c68315e-9944-41bc-ad23-38afebe983fd.jpg&hash=94577d5ea512830da729844742e669307ed6204b)

Pretty sweet comeback eh?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
Cheer on my Caps BB they have never won anything and are due. :contract:


But I'm not a Caps fan. :huh:

Anyways the CFL season starts in two months...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
But I'm not a Caps fan. :huh:

Fine <_<
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
But I'm not a Caps fan. :huh:

Fine <_<

:huh:

At this point I'm more emotionally invested in a Blue Bombers victory than I could ever be invested in the Washington Capitals.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 11:08:07 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:48:40 PM
At this point I'm more emotionally invested in a Blue Bombers victory than I could ever be invested in the Washington Capitals.

After I cheered for Calgary during the 2004 finals to...

my blessing had nothing to do with them losing by the way.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 28, 2009, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
turns out
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 28, 2009, 09:13:25 PM
Harsh toke for the Devils. :face:

They were up 3-2. did they grasp defeat from the jaws of victory?

Turns out Brodeur is human. who knew?

It's the curse of Ron Francis!

The last time the Hurricanes lost a play-off series to the Devils it ended badly for Carolina. Stevens gave Francis and Willis concussions (basically ended the career of Willis) and pretty much disrespected the Hurrricanes at home.

Since than we have eliminated the Devils from the play-offs the last three times the teams have met!!! We just have Brodeur's number especially in Raleigh. We treat him like he was Josie Theodore.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2009, 11:47:20 PM
Pfft it's because the Devils let Scotty go, haven't won a series last two seasons. :contract:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 29, 2009, 02:35:29 AM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 06:36:44 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 28, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
Cheer on my Caps BB they have never won anything and are due. :contract:


But I'm not a Caps fan. :huh:

Anyways the CFL season starts in two months...

Once your team is eliminated you cheer thru Hate, for failure of the hated teams.

I can NOT believe the NHL is making me cheer for the Carolina Hurricanes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2009, 07:10:57 AM
I just realized:  Every single decent team lost their series.  Now, all that's left is Washington and Chicago.

Well, Boston would be decent if Tim wasn't such a faggot.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
nucks/hawks and pens/caps will both be excellent series.

I don't like the lag between rounds or the saturday afternoon games (... its summertime)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 29, 2009, 07:38:58 AM
hehe, Caps have a guy named Semin.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
nucks/hawks and pens/caps will both be excellent series.

I don't like the lag between rounds or the saturday afternoon games (... its summertime)

Stupid NBC.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 08:40:07 AM
exactly. the other networks pay NHL $ for broadcast rights, while NBC doesn't; they have some sort of revenue sharing understanding, with no money up front.

If I ran CBC, TSN or Versus, I would be pissed.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 29, 2009, 08:42:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 08:40:07 AM
exactly. the other networks pay NHL $ for broadcast rights, while NBC doesn't; they have some sort of revenue sharing understanding, with no money up front.

If I ran CBC, TSN or Versus, I would be pissed.

If I was the NHL, I'd be glad an American broadcast network was showing my games.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2009, 08:50:47 AM
They are, they shouldn't be.

The NHL doesn't need NBC.

I hate TSN2. :ultra:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on April 29, 2009, 08:58:27 AM
Quote
The NHL doesn't need NBC.

The NHL needs everything it can get if it wants to be in the American market outside the North.

Sure, I'd love it to be back on ESPN and Fox(without the stupid robots), but it isn't 1995 anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_ZrSPQQDY&feature=related

Sigh.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2009, 09:01:50 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 29, 2009, 08:58:27 AM
Quote
The NHL doesn't need NBC.

The NHL needs everything it can get if it wants to be in the American market outside the North.

Sure, I'd love it to be back on ESPN and Fox(without the stupid robots), but it isn't 1995 anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_ZrSPQQDY&feature=related

Sigh.
So long as Bettman remains in command, they'll never make it back to ESPN.  He spurned them, and they destroyed his league.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on April 29, 2009, 09:04:07 AM
I watch hockey on ESPN America over here, good channel, except for all the baseball.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 29, 2009, 08:42:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 08:40:07 AM
exactly. the other networks pay NHL $ for broadcast rights, while NBC doesn't; they have some sort of revenue sharing understanding, with no money up front.

If I ran CBC, TSN or Versus, I would be pissed.

If I was the NHL, I'd be glad an American broadcast network was showing my games.

The NHL head office thinks that too. even though it's a  play for pay deal. and they get bumped for stuff like horse racing.

fact is they make more money elsewhere, including excellent local TV deals. the Islanders for example get $20 million (!) a year from comcast.

major us networks aren't necessary. dance with who brought ya.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 29, 2009, 10:23:33 AM
Vancouver Canucks are Canada's team and the Team of Destinyâ„¢.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 29, 2009, 10:32:39 AM
I like Kool Aid too.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2009, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: PRC on April 29, 2009, 10:23:33 AM
Vancouver Canucks are Canada's team and the Team of Destinyâ„¢.
Let's not go crazy here.  They squeaked out a win against the Blues (a vastly inferior team).  Moreover, every single Canadian hates the Canucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 29, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!

You really like the underdog dont you.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 29, 2009, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 29, 2009, 10:47:17 AM
Let's not go crazy here.  They squeaked out a win against the Blues (a vastly inferior team).  Moreover, every single Canadian hates the Canucks.

:lol: The Blues were the hottest team in Hockey going into the playoffs and the Canucks swept them.  Moreover you need to remember that socialist corners of Alberta are not very representative of Canada .
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 29, 2009, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!

You really like the underdog dont you.


Cheer for the favorites didn't help last round.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 29, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
And so now i'm down to....Go BlackHawks!

You really like the underdog dont you.

Yes, have some...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
So the new Languish-approved teams are:

Red Wings vs. Ducks (This one is difficult.  I hate the store-bought Wings, but Grey Fox is as bad as Tim)

Canucks vs. Blackhawks  (Obvious, really.  Canucks fans are intolerable, and always have been)

Bruins vs. Hurricanes  (For most Languishites, this would be Strix vs. Tim.  I've always had a soft spot for the Bruins)

Capitals vs. Penguins  (Crosby is the whiniest force on Earth)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on April 29, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
I'm scared as i agree with Neil on all counts! :o
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 30, 2009, 01:06:42 AM
my predictions:

wings
nucks
bruins
pens
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 30, 2009, 01:15:24 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 30, 2009, 01:06:42 AM
my predictions:

wings
nucks
bruins
pens

I concur with my hempen pal.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on April 30, 2009, 03:47:39 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 29, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
So the new Languish-approved teams are:

Red Wings vs. Ducks (This one is difficult.  I hate the store-bought Wings, but Grey Fox is as bad as Tim)

Canucks vs. Blackhawks  (Obvious, really.  Canucks fans are intolerable, and always have been)

Bruins vs. Hurricanes  (For most Languishites, this would be Strix vs. Tim.  I've always had a soft spot for the Bruins)

Capitals vs. Penguins  (Crosby is the whiniest force on Earth)

Just to throw a meaningless stat in there but the winner of the previous three meetings between the Devils and Hurricanes in the playoffs has gone to the Stanley Cup each season.  :menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on April 30, 2009, 06:38:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 29, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
So the new Languish-approved teams are:

Red Wings vs. Ducks (This one is difficult.  I hate the store-bought Wings, but Grey Fox is as bad as Tim)

Canucks vs. Blackhawks  (Obvious, really.  Canucks fans are intolerable, and always have been)

Bruins vs. Hurricanes  (For most Languishites, this would be Strix vs. Tim.  I've always had a soft spot for the Bruins)

Capitals vs. Penguins  (Crosby is the whiniest force on Earth)

Canucks are worse then me?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 07:20:11 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 15, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
San Jose vs. Anaheim
Detroit vs. Columbus
Vancouver vs. St. Louis
Chicago vs. Calgary

Boston vs. Montreal
Washinton vs. New York
New Jersey vs. Carolina
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
looks like i'm batting .500 :p

New predictions:
Red Wings vs. Ducks
Canucks vs. Blackhawks (unless Loungo really stands on his head)
Bruins vs. Hurricanes 
Capitals vs. Penguins 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 12:00:50 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 29, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
I'm scared as i agree with Neil on all counts! :o

since we know his predictions are always wrong I take great comfort in his posts.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 07:20:11 AM

Canucks vs. Blackhawks (unless Loungo really stands on his head)


This was the matchup we were hoping for in the first round.  Canucks fans are thrilled to see the Hawks in the second round.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 30, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
I'm going to miss the first period and part of second... as I'm tutoring this evening. Money - more important than hockey? to me, yes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 08:12:38 PM
HERE WE GO!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Canucks up by 3 going into the 3rd of the 1st game of the series.  Looking good, Blackhawks look a bit off, maybe tired? 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
I thought that their talent could get them past their youth, but for tonight at least, chicago's been damn undisciplined.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:24:58 PM
Blackhawks are making a game of it.  They get better as the game goes on!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:30:46 PM
MOTHER FUCKER!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 30, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
big comeback. :o
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:31:34 PM
What A  show by chicago. Now that they're playing 5 on 5 they're dominating.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
also, curse western games. i have to wake up in like 6 hours lol.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on April 30, 2009, 10:38:53 PM
there we are!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:38:54 PM
horrible fucking change

*edit* or was that not a change? that's even worse.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:39:49 PM
YES!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
also, curse western games. i have to wake up in like 6 hours lol.

You should move to BC.  Eastern games are done by 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:16 PM
congrats to Vancouver. Game two shall be very interesting, assuming chicago can stay out of the penalty box.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
also, curse western games. i have to wake up in like 6 hours lol.

You should move to BC.  Eastern games are done by 7:00 PM.
Rains too mcuh :p
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:41 PM
Hell of a game.  Canucks were dominating, Hawks came back and proved they can compete with them, and Canucks squeaked it out.  This will be a heart attack inducing series for me!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on April 30, 2009, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
also, curse western games. i have to wake up in like 6 hours lol.

You should move to BC.  Eastern games are done by 7:00 PM.
Rains too mcuh :p

PST is more than just BC. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2009, 10:47:42 PM
PST is more than just BC. :rolleyes:
More than just BC... but also mostly BC.  :cool:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2009, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
also, curse western games. i have to wake up in like 6 hours lol.

You should move to BC.  Eastern games are done by 7:00 PM.
Rains too mcuh :p

PST is more than just BC. :rolleyes:
I like the cold, but the yukon is excessive. When i thought of moving west i thought of Alberta, but now their economy is tanking. Added to that outside of two cities there's nothing to do.

plus, your alberta chicks threads scared me away :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:38:54 PM
horrible fucking change

*edit* or was that not a change? that's even worse.

Really, really bad pinch by the defenceman.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 10:55:26 PM
Really not sure what to make of the Hawks.  Two periods of really bad indisciplined boring hockey and then one period of skating.  Not sure if it was the Hawks waking up or the Canucks falling asleep after taking a dominating lead.

We will see in game two.  But it doesnt look like the Hawks have the same scoring threat the Blues had against Vancouver.  Every game in the Blues series was close in every period.  This one could have been a blow out if the Canucks got half their shots on net.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 10:57:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
Added to that outside of two cities there's nothing to do.

I hope you were not including Edmonton in those two cities. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 30, 2009, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:16 PM
congrats to Vancouver. Game two shall be very interesting, assuming chicago can stay out of the penalty box.

That was the story this game -- yeah, Chicago only gave up one PP goal, but all of that time on the PK tends to catch up with you after awhile.  The Canucks had the best of it tonight, but I'm confident that there's enough going on there where this is anybody's series...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
I like the cold, but the yukon is excessive. When i thought of moving west i thought of Alberta, but now their economy is tanking. Added to that outside of two cities there's nothing to do.

plus, your alberta chicks threads scared me away :lol:

I live in Calgary right now so maybe I don't see the news that you get to read in the East but I wouldn't call Alberta's economy "tanking" especially compared to what I hear about Ontarios!  It ain't tanking here... yet... anyways. 

On the second note, i'll take Alberta chicks during Stampede weekend, but outside of that stretch, Vancouver owns.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 30, 2009, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:44:16 PM
congrats to Vancouver. Game two shall be very interesting, assuming chicago can stay out of the penalty box.

That was the story this game -- yeah, Chicago only gave up one PP goal, but all of that time on the PK tends to catch up with you after awhile.  The Canucks had the best of it tonight, but I'm confident that there's enough going on there where this is anybody's series...

:ccr
If i was welwood id start taking blood thinners to make sure i bleed. his face was like a magnet tonight :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on April 30, 2009, 11:04:11 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 30, 2009, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
I like the cold, but the yukon is excessive. When i thought of moving west i thought of Alberta, but now their economy is tanking. Added to that outside of two cities there's nothing to do.

plus, your alberta chicks threads scared me away :lol:

I live in Calgary right now so maybe I don't see the news that you get to read in the East but I wouldn't call Alberta's economy "tanking" especially compared to what I hear about Ontarios!  It ain't tanking here... yet... anyways. 

On the second note, i'll take Alberta chicks during Stampede weekend, but outside of that stretch, Vancouver owns.
Tanking is stretching it. but IIRC their little stash is getting littler, and the price of oil won't by as high as it was for a long time.

And ya, ontario is hard hit.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 30, 2009, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 30, 2009, 10:55:26 PM
Really not sure what to make of the Hawks.  Two periods of really bad indisciplined boring hockey and then one period of skating.  Not sure if it was the Hawks waking up or the Canucks falling asleep after taking a dominating lead.

We will see in game two.  But it doesnt look like the Hawks have the same scoring threat the Blues had against Vancouver.  Every game in the Blues series was close in every period.  This one could have been a blow out if the Canucks got half their shots on net.

The Blues are very, very tight consistently, while the Hawks tend to get better as the game goes on.  They're also a bit streaky, in that if you can play a perfect game & continue to frustrate them you'll own them, but if you give them an inch they'll take a foot (i.e. three third period goals tonight).

Again, Blackhawk penalties were the story tonight.  I thought that every single call made tonight was valid, but I would put both of those double-minors in the category of "Bad Bounces" -- sticks that happened to slip up & catch people in a spot that bled.  That's just hockey.  In fact, that's the coolest thing about hockey (especially in the playoffs):  it all comes down to who gets the bounces.  Vancouver definitely got them tonight & made the most of them, but I saw enough out of the Blackhawks tonight that, on a game-to-game basis, every night is "Anything Can Happen Night."  We'll see what we can see.

Personally, from the outset I was hoping that the Blackhawks could steal one of the first two games & then take it from there.  They weren't successful in Game 1, but I think that they definitely showed that the potential was there to possibly do it in Game 2.

Or something.  I'm just pissed that the 1st two games of the series is only on Versus down here instead of Comcast Sports Net, so I'm forced to watch the games in the house (where the one digital cable box is) instead of getting to watch it out in the garage where I can drink & smoke & scream & cuss & have fun with it...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on April 30, 2009, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on April 30, 2009, 11:09:38 PM
The Blues are very, very tight consistently, while the Hawks tend to get better as the game goes on.  They're also a bit streaky, in that if you can play a perfect game & continue to frustrate them you'll own them, but if you give them an inch they'll take a foot (i.e. three third period goals tonight).

Again, Blackhawk penalties were the story tonight.  I thought that every single call made tonight was valid, but I would put both of those double-minors in the category of "Bad Bounces" -- sticks that happened to slip up & catch people in a spot that bled.  That's just hockey.  In fact, that's the coolest thing about hockey (especially in the playoffs):  it all comes down to who gets the bounces.  Vancouver definitely got them tonight & made the most of them, but I saw enough out of the Blackhawks tonight that, on a game-to-game basis, every night is "Anything Can Happen Night."  We'll see what we can see.

Personally, from the outset I was hoping that the Blackhawks could steal one of the first two games & then take it from there.  They weren't successful in Game 1, but I think that they definitely showed that the potential was there to possibly do it in Game 2.

Or something.  I'm just pissed that the 1st two games of the series is only on Versus down here instead of Comcast Sports Net, so I'm forced to watch the games in the house (where the one digital cable box is) instead of getting to watch it out in the garage where I can drink & smoke & scream & cuss & have fun with it...

:ccr

Good analysis.  The Hawks do get better as the game goes on.  I think the Canucks played a solid 40 minutes and thought the game was over before the 3rd period started letting the Hawks get back into after a lucky first goal in the third.

If the Canucks can play a solid 60 minutes for a few games in a row then the series belongs to them.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on April 30, 2009, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: PRC on April 30, 2009, 11:35:43 PM
If the Canucks can play a solid 60 minutes for a few games in a row then the series belongs to them.

Agreed.  But by the same token if the Hawks can play a solid 60 minutes for a few games in a row then the series belongs to them.  "A game in the hand is worth two in the bush," yada yada yada -- but I cannot stress enough that this is going to be a series where every night is Anything Can Happen Night.  The Canucks might go on to sweep the Blackhawks in this series, or the Blackhawks could very well win the next four straight (my money is on somebody winning the series in six games).  In any event, the Blackhawks are coming up due SOON to light Luongo up like a pinball machine in a game.  I'm hoping that it's Game 2, but it might be Game 3, Game 4, Game 5 or the next time they meet in the regular season.  Who knows?  Only The Hockey Gods, and they're cruel, fickle motherfuckers...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 01, 2009, 12:03:51 AM
Very true.  At any rate were in for treat, this will be a hell of a series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 06:44:19 AM
This is the most goals Luongo has allowed in many games and certainly a huge amount for one period.  The Canucks will likely clamp down their defence like they did in the Blues series.  They were not collapsing around the net and throwing their bodies in front of shots like they were before.  In other words this is the game the Hawks lite Loungo up and it is likely the game the Hawks needed to take in order to take the series.

I think that in the third period the Canucks started to believe all the Vancouver media predictions that this should be an easy series and their intensity level vanished.  I dont think they will make that mistake again.  They now know how opportunistic the Hawks can be and the Canucks should be ready to play the full game like they did in the Blues series.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 06:51:20 AM
I'm unsure whats going to be worse/is worse, the Languish Steelheads or the Canucks fans if they win.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 01, 2009, 07:03:45 AM
that's it. I'm sending Orland Kurtenbach to your house to beat you up.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 07:48:03 AM
I'm hiding behind Scotty Bowman. We'll see who's the better coach!

:lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 06:51:20 AM
I'm unsure whats going to be worse/is worse, the Languish Steelheads or the Canucks fans if they win.

What do you mean "if" the Canucks win
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 01, 2009, 09:50:17 AM
anyhow a 5 game winning streak in the playoffs is pretty good by any standard. odds are, it will be a long series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
I just got offered tickets from a client to go to the Saturday game :yeah:.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
I just got offered tickets from a client to go to the Saturday game :yeah:.

Down enough so we can see you on TV?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 01, 2009, 10:43:02 AM
wear a  John Tortorella facemask. your "visage" will be broadcast coast-to-coast.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
I just got offered tickets from a client to go to the Saturday game :yeah:.

Down enough so we can see you on TV?

I think so.  I will stand up so you cant miss me.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 01, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
lol.... I notice Neil's silence on this game.  :p  I think it will be a long series. I only saw the end of second and the third, and was (like I was anytime i saw them all year) impressed by the young Hawks team. Fun to watch.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 07:41:49 PM
2-2!

:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 01, 2009, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 01, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
lol.... I notice Neil's silence on this game.  :p
I didn't watch it.  I assume that the Canucks cheated to win.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 01, 2009, 08:35:59 PM
Lidstrom pressed the clutch.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
:weep:

So close.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: JacobL on May 01, 2009, 08:41:39 PM
Lidstrom is a bad man :smoke:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 01, 2009, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 01, 2009, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 01, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
lol.... I notice Neil's silence on this game.  :p
I didn't watch it.  I assume that the Canucks cheated to win.

If by cheating you mean playing better and more importantly smarter than the other team, then, yes.

Still It won't be a cakewalk for either team. I'm thinking seven games, unless one team completely loses their shit (unlikely, I think)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 02, 2009, 07:46:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
:weep:

So close.

Your Timmay like posting makes me hate the Ducks even more.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 02, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2009, 07:46:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
:weep:

So close.

Your Timmay like posting makes me hate the Ducks even more.

I'm going to start adding "We"s :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 02, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
I will be in Row 5... If a puck gets flicked over the glass I will try to retrieve it to present to Neil after the Canucks win the Cup.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 02, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2009, 07:46:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
:weep:

So close.

Your Timmay like posting makes me hate the Ducks even more.

I'm going to start adding "We"s :lol:

:(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
Caps beat the Pens 3-2.  Which is OK, I guess.  Dunno.  I'm not really emotionally invested in that series either way, but I'm hesitant to make fun of either of them for Karma Reasons...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
Game Night in La Casa de CCR.  The beer situation is a bit of a mixed bag:

6 cans of Miller Lite (mother-in-law left it here)
5 bottles of Labatt's Blue
4 bottles of Negra Modelo
4 cans of PBR
1 stray bottle of Bud Light that my buddy left here the other night

I'm still nursing a Knob Creek on the rocks that I fired up for the Kentucky Derby, but after that I think that I'm going to work my way from heaviest beer to lightest (Negra Modelo - Labatt's - PBR - Miller Lite - Bud Light).  Honestly, if I make my way through the Negra Modelo AND the Labatt's Blue I will probably have had enough, but it's good to have Reserves.  I mean, what if the game goes into OT?  One dasn't want to be caught all empty handed & shit.

Or something.  Am intently looking forward to the game.  Hope it's a fun one...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 02, 2009, 09:23:50 PM
Unbelievable save by Luongo... shades of Varlamov in the Washington game earlier!  2-1, great game so far!  Cheers!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 02, 2009, 10:06:50 PM
hawks really want it. 4 straight goals. the last one was sheer hustle.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 02, 2009, 10:08:03 PM
and kane makes 5. this one is likely over.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 02, 2009, 10:36:15 PM
Vancouver is in trouble. they can't seem to go all 3 periods with any form of pressure.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 11:02:33 PM
The Hawks did a little better tonight.  They still had poblems staying out of the box, but they stepped up & made it happen.  I really wanted them to steal one of the games in Vancouver & they did it, so I hope that they can bring it home & Stick It In & Break It Off.  I'm still waiting for the game that they light Luongo up like a pinball machine, though...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 11:28:42 PM
Also, I'd like it to be on record that I broke a stick tonight.  The Titan with the floor/street hockey blade that I had been beating around all playoffs this year cracked right through the plastic blade, so I switched up to the Winiwell & it seemed to pay off.  Dunno.  We'll see.  If by the end of the playoffs I'm down to the Canadien goalie stick, well, then so be it.  Whatever it takes...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 02, 2009, 11:31:19 PM
Charlie don't surf and Canucks don't play Defense it seems.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2009, 11:31:19 PM
Charlie don't surf and Canucks don't play Defense it seems.

The Canucks are still believing the media hype that since the Hawks happened to play a couple of bad games against them during the regular season then they're a craptacular team.  Well, shucks, Pork Chop -- I think that that particular theory just got shot to shit.  That's not to say that the Vancouver Canucks aren't capable of winning this series, that's just saying that "this is the matchup that we were hoping for" might or might not be they're choice of words that they were looking for...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 02, 2009, 11:38:44 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 11:28:42 PM
Also, I'd like it to be on record that I broke a stick tonight.  The Titan with the floor/street hockey blade that I had been beating around all playoffs this year cracked right through the plastic blade, so I switched up to the Winiwell & it seemed to pay off.  Dunno.  We'll see.  If by the end of the playoffs I'm down to the Canadien goalie stick, well, then so be it.  Whatever it takes...

:ccr

Broke your stick eh?  That's a bad omen. :D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 02, 2009, 11:38:44 PM
Broke your stick eh?  That's a bad omen. :D

Well, after it happened things started going well for the Hawks, but the foam puck that I like to shoot around the garage during games without fear of breaking anything disappeared, so I'll need to find it before Tuesday...

Anyways, if there's a way that I can be humble & placating to you about tonight's game while still sounding like a condescending ass to the person that wanted to Talk Smack about the series, well, I hope that we can find it.  Like I said earlier, every game this series really will be Anything Can Happen Night, and I can appreciate that you want your team to do well (as do I & my team) without us being dicks about it...

:console:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 03, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
The report from rinkside.

Seats were great.  Five rows up from the ice next to the face-off button to the right of the visitors bench.  The positive of being in those seats is all the Canuck goals happened right in front of us.  The further positive is we saw The Save up close.  The replays make it look spectacular but to have seen Luongo cover that distance so quickly right in front of me was really something.

I also had a good view of all the second period Blackhawk goals...

Three pucks came into the crowd in my general area.  The one that caused the delay penalty and put the Canucks two men down in the second happened right in front of me but it just dropped into the first row so I was not able to recover it for Neil.

Now if I could invent a stick that didnt break I could quit my day job.  I will get a prototype over to CCR for testing.

After the game we went to the Casino across from the arena and played some Craps.  That went better then the hockey game.


Seeing the game up close I put the odds of the Hawks winning the series a lot higher.  Not just because of the score but because of the attitude they showed which doesnt come across very well on TV.  The are young aggressive and are playing like they have something to prove.  The Canucks are going to have to match their intensity.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 03, 2009, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 03, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
Now if I could invent a stick that didnt break I could quit my day job.  I will get a prototype over to CCR for testing.

:hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 03, 2009, 09:08:42 AM
Well, it looks like the Canucks shouldn't start planning their victory parade yet.  I guess when Chicago turned it on at the end of the last game, they broke Luongo and turned him into a sieve.

In other news:  Fuck you Sidney Crosby!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 03, 2009, 12:43:39 PM
 :lol:

Neil, did you notice the score at the end of the 1st was 2-0 Canucks and the saves he was making.  It is hardly Luongo's fault that team stopped skating
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 03, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 03, 2009, 12:43:39 PM
:lol:

Neil, did you notice the score at the end of the 1st was 2-0 Canucks and the saves he was making.  It is hardly Luongo's fault that team stopped skating
No.  I didn't watch the game.  I was out.

All I know is that he gave up more goals in one game than he did in the whole first series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 03, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on May 02, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
Caps beat the Pens 3-2.  Which is OK, I guess.

Ok?!  It is spectacular! :yeah:

The Pen curse shall be shattered.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 03, 2009, 06:32:19 PM
The coolest thing about the Detroit/Anaheim game is that there was only a 45 minute wait before the Boston game comes on...

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 04, 2009, 02:22:57 AM
I hate Anaheim.

Don't care at all about Bruins or Canes. Yawn.

Cheering for Caps (even though they knocked out Lundqvist) over Pens any day.

Slightly favour Canucks over the Blackhawks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 04, 2009, 07:05:27 PM
Ah crap here I was posting on Languish and totally forgot about the game.  See you guys after the Caps go up 2-0 on the Pens.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 04, 2009, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 04, 2009, 07:05:27 PM
Ah crap here I was posting on Languish and totally forgot about the game.  See you guys after the Caps go up 2-0 on the Pens.

Guess we'll never see Valmy again, farewell!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 04, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 04, 2009, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 04, 2009, 07:05:27 PM
Ah crap here I was posting on Languish and totally forgot about the game.  See you guys after the Caps go up 2-0 on the Pens.

Guess we'll never see Valmy again, farewell!
:lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 04, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
...hell of a show by Ovey
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 04, 2009, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 04, 2009, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 04, 2009, 07:05:27 PM
Ah crap here I was posting on Languish and totally forgot about the game.  See you guys after the Caps go up 2-0 on the Pens.

Guess we'll never see Valmy again, farewell!
Maybe sooner than you thought.  Ovechkin is the MVP.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 08:07:47 AM
How great was that game eh?  Two hattricks and Ovechkin was hitting the fuck out of the puck.  It was like it was shot out of a cannon.

Sweep the Pens!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 05, 2009, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 08:07:47 AM
How great was that game eh?  Two hattricks and Ovechkin was hitting the fuck out of the puck.  It was like it was shot out of a cannon.

Sweep the Pens!
If the media wasn't on board that 'Ovechkin vs. Crosby' thing already, the dueling hattricks is going to push them right over the edge.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 05, 2009, 08:27:06 AM
It's insane that it's his first hattrick of the season.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 05, 2009, 11:19:54 AM
Not to dishearten everyone but that team from the South evened the series 1-1!

Can the Canes ruin hockey once again by winning the Cup.  :bowler:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 05, 2009, 11:19:54 AM
Not to dishearten everyone but that team from the South evened the series 1-1!

Can the Canes ruin hockey once again by winning the Cup.  :bowler:

You will be fodder for the mighty Caps if you get that far.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 05, 2009, 11:36:22 AM
yes. they can ruin hockey again.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 05, 2009, 12:02:01 PM
I hope this will make Cam Ward a valuable choice for the 2010 team.

Tell me, Turco is done right? I'm not even sure I'd bring Brodeur.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on May 05, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 11:29:55 AM

You will be fodder for the mighty Caps if you get that far.

Come on now....you should know that the Caps are in perfect position to choke and feel the wrath of the Pens curse once more. Caps held serve on home ice, in two very close games, big deal. I would normally say both games at the Mellon Arena are most wins but the Pens have come back from 3-1 against the Caps before in the playoffs. I just hope someone other than Crosby (the Art Ross winner, perhaps?) shows up in game 3. And I hope Bylsma sits Letang for Boucher. At least Boucher keeps the puck in the zone on the PP and actually puts it on net when he has an open shot.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: jech on May 05, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
Come on now....you should know that the Caps are in perfect position to choke and feel the wrath of the Pens curse once more.

Of course I do.  I am hoping my bravado will distract the Hockey Gods long enough for them to squeeze through.

However the Caps have not suffered the wrath of the Pens in 8 years so maybe the current crop of players on both teams will not benefit/suffer from the weight of history in this historically one sided playoff rivalry.

Hell I do not even feel that much hatred for the Pens anymore and I used to have a Super Mario voodoo doll.

QuoteI would normally say both games at the Mellon Arena are most wins but the Pens have come back from 3-1 against the Caps before in the playoffs.

Yes...yes they have...what a black black time the 1990s was.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 05, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 02:16:55 PM


Yes...yes they have...what a black black time the 1990s was.

My god you really are quite the racist.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
My god you really are quite the racist.

YOU MOCK MY PAIN!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 05, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 05, 2009, 11:19:54 AM
Not to dishearten everyone but that team from the South evened the series 1-1!

Can the Canes ruin hockey once again by winning the Cup.  :bowler:

I prefer to refer to them as "The Artists Formally Known As The Hartford Whalers."
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 05, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Game Night in La Casa de CCR.  I worked my way through all of the Negra Modelo & the Labatt's Blue on Saturday, so I had to pick up a fresh case of PBR today.

The pre-game dinner should be OK -- pre-packaged, store bought italian beef.  Meh.  It's nowhere near as good as at a good greasy spoon restaurant, but it'll do in a pinch.  I probably should have grilled up some italian sausages to go with & make combos, but oh well.  Live & learn.

Big game for both Vancouver & Chicago tonight.  I think that Chicago has the momentum coming home, but Vancouver is too good & too proud to not come out of the gate flying tonight.  Should be a good one...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 05, 2009, 08:01:44 PM
So far so good, but I guess Vancouver has to have at least a 4 or 5 goal lead before we can feel good about it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 05, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2009, 08:01:44 PM
So far so good, but I guess Vancouver has to have at least a 4 or 5 goal lead before we can feel good about it.

As much as it pains me to admit, I think that tonight is going to be Vancouver's night.  They're doing all of the little things right:  good forechecking, getting sticks in the passing lanes & good blocked shots in their own end  and getting good puck control in the offensive end.  I can't bring myself to give up on the Blackhawks yet, but there comes a time when that lucky horseshoe falls out of you ass, and I think that the time is now.  Or something...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on May 05, 2009, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2009, 02:16:55 PM

Of course I do.  I am hoping my bravado will distract the Hockey Gods long enough for them to squeeze through.

However the Caps have not suffered the wrath of the Pens in 8 years so maybe the current crop of players on both teams will not benefit/suffer from the weight of history in this historically one sided playoff rivalry.

Hell I do not even feel that much hatred for the Pens anymore and I used to have a Super Mario voodoo doll.

Yes...yes they have...what a black black time the 1990s was.

Yeah the rivalry kinda died with both teams sucking it up for a few years, but the whole Crosby-Malkin/Ovie thing has re-ignited it some. We're gonna need a few more playoff series to really get it going again though.

I'm too young to remember that 3-1 series comeback but one of the first memories I have of the Pens is Petr Nedved scoring in the early morning hours (4th OT) of game 4 in 96. Pens were down 0-2 then as well, 4 straight victories  ;)

I'll be in attendance tomorrow, my first playoff game since 2001. I'm pumped, gonna be intense as shit.

And...Lets go Ducks! Fuck you Hossa!

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 05, 2009, 09:46:47 PM
solid gutcheck performance from the Canucks. Pyatt's return helped some i think. Ohlund may be out though. :( that won't do, the top two D gone.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 05, 2009, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 05, 2009, 09:46:47 PM
solid gutcheck performance from the Canucks.

Agreed.  They played 60 hard minutes & got the bounces, and they pulled a well-earned win tonight.  The pressure will obviously be square on the Hawks' shoulders come Game 4 on Thursday...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 05, 2009, 10:20:26 PM
Its going to be a great game 4.  I sure hope Ohlund is ok.  He is as solid as a rock back on defence.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 05, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
Solid gam
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 05, 2009, 09:46:47 PM
solid gutcheck performance from the Canucks. Pyatt's return helped some i think. Ohlund may be out though. :( that won't do, the top two D gone.

Totally.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 06, 2009, 07:28:24 AM
Sometimes I just don't "get" hockey.

That disallowed Detroit equalizer is beyond me. More than that, the fight after the final whistle that Anaheim seemed to start just because they felt like it: two guys gang up on Franzen (I think), one holding him and another beating him up with some hard hits to his back.

Why? And why is there no repercussion (from what I can tell)? The NHL talk about banning staged fighting, how about two-on-one fighting?  :huh:

It's things like this that make it so hard for people to take hockey serious as a sport. Arbitrary rulings on chicken-shit plays. There's just no respect between players, as long as it's called "playoff hockey" anything you can get away with is fine. Makes me sick.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 06, 2009, 07:52:55 AM
It's all the referees fault anyway. They have no consistency.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
Phoenix is filing for chapter 11. Balsilie is swooping in, making a cash offer that will satisfy all creditors including NHL, contingent on moving the team to somewhere in southern Ontario. the owner (Moyes) has agreed, and has surrendered any value he has. the NHL is pissed, having effectively financed the franchise since February, and has retaliated by removing Moyes from any executive/management position with the club and are poised to dispute the filing on the basis that it's their franchise anyway and they will decide who will acquire the team and that the team will stay in the desert goddamnit.

last night, the better game was off the ice.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
Phoenix is filing for chapter 11. Balsilie is swooping in, making a cash offer that will satisfy all creditors including NHL, contingent on moving the team to somewhere in southern Ontario. the owner (Moyes) has agreed, and has surrendered any value he has. the NHL is pissed, having effectively financed the franchise since February, and has retaliated by removing Moyes from any executive/management position with the club and are poised to dispute the filing on the basis that it's their franchise anyway and they will decide who will acquire the team and that the team will stay in the desert goddamnit.

God I hate Bettman and the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
Phoenix is filing for chapter 11. Balsilie is swooping in, making a cash offer that will satisfy all creditors including NHL, contingent on moving the team to somewhere in southern Ontario. the owner (Moyes) has agreed, and has surrendered any value he has. the NHL is pissed, having effectively financed the franchise since February, and has retaliated by removing Moyes from any executive/management position with the club and are poised to dispute the filing on the basis that it's their franchise anyway and they will decide who will acquire the team and that the team will stay in the desert goddamnit.

if you goto the Phoenix newspaper's website commentary, it seems that a good chunk of respondents never knew they had a hockey team. funny.

God I hate Bettman and the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 08:40:18 AM
Quoteif you goto the Phoenix newspaper's website commentary, it seems that a good chunk of respondents never knew they had a hockey team. funny.

Heck the Tampa Bay Newspaper didn't even know their team won the Stanley Cup.

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Sort of ironic they compare themselves with traditional Hockey markets...somehow I have a hard time imagining Chicago media missing the fact the Blackhawks just won the championship.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 09:13:03 AM
Dewey Defeats Truman. Did that actually run?  Tampa had the lead for the whole game 7. :huh: :D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 09:13:03 AM
Dewey Defeats Truman. Did that actually run?  Tampa had the lead for the whole game 7. :huh: :D

Nobody at the newspaper watched the game so they didn't know. 

Anyway I enjoy seeing Bettman and the NHL moving around beloved franchises for supposedly cold economic reasons...and when those same franchises fail miserably in their new locations they struggle to keep them there against all economic sense.  Bettman just cannot accept he is a miserable failure and the collapse of the NHL in exposure over the past 15 years is entirely his doing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 06, 2009, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Anyway I enjoy seeing Bettman and the NHL moving around beloved franchises for supposedly cold economic reasons...and when those same franchises fail miserably in their new locations they struggle to keep them there against all economic sense.  Bettman just cannot accept he is a miserable failure and the collapse of the NHL in exposure over the past 15 years is entirely his doing.
Entirely.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 09:13:03 AM
Dewey Defeats Truman. Did that actually run?  Tampa had the lead for the whole game 7. :huh: :D

Nobody at the newspaper watched the game so they didn't know. 

Anyway I enjoy seeing Bettman and the NHL moving around beloved franchises for supposedly cold economic reasons...and when those same franchises fail miserably in their new locations they struggle to keep them there against all economic sense.  Bettman just cannot accept he is a miserable failure and the collapse of the NHL in exposure over the past 15 years is entirely his doing.

it's a real Roman Holiday. I like it too.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 06, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
No teams going back to Canada!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 06, 2009, 02:24:50 PM
Southern Ontario can accomodate another bad team.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 06, 2009, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 06, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
No teams going back to Canada!
Or anywhere, for that matter.  Gary Bettman would sooner blow up the NHL than have his terrible decisions be corrected.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 03:58:45 PM
My take is Bettman will do everything he can to keep the team in Phoenix. He may be successful in the short term,  which includes withdrawing the bankruptcy petition(filed by a guy who owns, but now no longer apparently represents the team), and then finding alternative ownership. But if that alternative ownership fails, or does not manifest, he will have used up his credibility with BOG. Then the BOG will sever him with great vigour.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 06, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 05, 2009, 12:02:01 PM
I hope this will make Cam Ward a valuable choice for the 2010 team.

Tell me, Turco is done right? I'm not even sure I'd bring Brodeur.

The thing with Ward that most of the media either don't get or are unwilling to acknowledge is that he is a very good goaltender but has Carolina's D out in front of him. They blamed him a lot for the Canes missing the playoffs the last couple seasons but ignored the fact that the two best defenders the Canes had were Wesley and Hedican who were both 5-7+ years past their prime. The Canes finally made some hard choices and have put together some good mobile young defensemen. Corvo, Pikanen, Babchuk, and Gleason are doing an excellent job with yeoman work from Wallin and Seidenberg, and surprise surprise once they got a chance to gel the Canes took off.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 06, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 06, 2009, 03:58:45 PM
My take is Bettman will do everything he can to keep the team in Phoenix. He may be successful in the short term,  which includes withdrawing the bankruptcy petition(filed by a guy who owns, but now no longer apparently represents the team), and then finding alternative ownership. But if that alternative ownership fails, or does not manifest, he will have used up his credibility with BOG. Then the BOG will sever him with great vigour.
One of the talking heads (I don't remember which one) was talking about how the NHL might run afoul of US antitrust law.

Still, one wonders what it would take to get to get the Board of Governors to turn on Bettman.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 06, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
A much deserved win by the Penguins. also, curse you Canes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on May 06, 2009, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: jech on May 05, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
And I hope Bylsma sits Letang for Boucher. At least Boucher keeps the puck in the zone on the PP and actually puts it on net when he has an open shot.

The funny thing is I would've stood by this statement the entire game until he scored that goal. He was terrible tonight. But that one shot redeems it all.....talk about goat to hero in a matter of seconds. You gotta love this sport.

By far the best hockey game I've been to in my life. My first experience with playoff OT hockey in person.....thats some scary stuff. 
:cheers:


Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 07, 2009, 07:52:54 AM
The Caps were totally dominated and only got that game into OT on sheer luck.  WTF guys?  :mad:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 09:50:03 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 07, 2009, 07:52:54 AM
The Caps were totally dominated and only got that game into OT on sheer luck.  WTF guys?  :mad:
And the luck was the goalie of a million names. If he isn't just a flash in the pan this kid will have a great career.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 07, 2009, 11:45:44 AM
I have Guinness goodness and steaks waiting for the start of game 4.

I am crossing my fingers for tickets to game 5.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 07, 2009, 12:17:16 PM
I'll be making masala. Pumped for the game AND for more Basilie mischief.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 07, 2009, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 06, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
A much deserved win by the Penguins. also, curse you Canes.

Oddly enough the last time the Steelers won the Superbowl the Canes won the Cup. Who won the Superbowl this year?  :menace:

And did you guys catch Cowher turning the air raid siren to welcome the Canes players onto the ice.   :hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 07, 2009, 12:17:16 PM
I'll be making masala. Pumped for the game AND for more Basilie mischief.

It seems the only viable way is for the court to deem that preventing an owner from relocating by the NHL would be violation of Anti-trust law.

Bettman, be proving wrong publically like that. I wouldn't believe it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 07, 2009, 02:36:55 PM
Oddly enough the last time the Steelers won the Superbowl the Canes won the Cup. Who won the Superbowl this year?  :menace:
I don't have the canes hate of most other hockey fans. It seems like you guys have a semi-decent following. i just like the Bruins (this year at least :P )
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 07, 2009, 03:42:12 PM
World championship semifinal tomorrow between Team Canada and Sweden.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 07, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 03:33:37 PM
It seems the only viable way is for the court to deem that preventing an owner from relocating by the NHL would be violation of Anti-trust law.
It was my understanding that based on what happened with Al Davis, that the court would almost certainly take the position that it was a violation of anti-trust law to prevent them from moving.  The real question is whether the NHL can get the bankruptcy invalidated on the basis that the owner had already abandoned the team.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 07, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: Delirium on May 07, 2009, 03:42:12 PM
World championship semifinal tomorrow between Team Canada and Sweden.

this never gets old

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:hug:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 07, 2009, 05:09:01 PM
second hand twitter report from  Phoenix court this afternoon, where the application was discussed:

"Judge doesn't want to decide before the draft, says we don't have enough time."

This will drag on. The implication is that Phoenix will be unprepared for July 1st Free Agency and will likely be a horrible team next year, which will kill them.

hwoop
update

Quoteupdate from the courtroom; hearing scheduled for May 19th to determine whether Moyes or NHL is in charge.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 05:39:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 07, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 03:33:37 PM
It seems the only viable way is for the court to deem that preventing an owner from relocating by the NHL would be violation of Anti-trust law.
It was my understanding that based on what happened with Al Davis, that the court would almost certainly take the position that it was a violation of anti-trust law to prevent them from moving.  The real question is whether the NHL can get the bankruptcy invalidated on the basis that the owner had already abandoned the team.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/169548-a-legal-analysis-of-the-state-of-the-phoenix-coyotes/show_full (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/169548-a-legal-analysis-of-the-state-of-the-phoenix-coyotes/show_full)

That article is a pretty good analysis.

Containing to who's in charge, he clearly thinks that Moyes retains the right to declare brankruptcy.

QuoteThe NHL now disputes Moyes' authority to file for bankruptcy. According to the league, when the Coyotes took a significant loan from the NHL in April (and likely on multiple occasions prior to April), Moyes agreed to forfeit his right to declare bankruptcy on behalf of the team in exchange for the cash.

If the NHL has its way, this promise will be deemed to be part of the loan contract between the NHL and the Coyotes, and Moyes will be barred from violating the deal.

But there are significant questions about the viability of a promise not to declare bankruptcy. While a contract is a contract, courts have long recognized the right of a contract participant to breach the contract, so long as they are willing to live with the consequences and pay financial damages. This is called the rule of the "Efficient Breach."

The only exception to the rule of "efficient breach" is when a court determines that there is no way to assess damages. In this setting, damages are easily valuated—the amount of loan money Moyes accepted from the NHL.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
Wicked goal by Hordichuk and Rypien's pass after some furious action by Chicago!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 09:28:30 PM
Mother FUCK!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 07, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 09:28:30 PM
Mother FUCK!
Don't worry.  The fix is in.  There's no way that Vancouver could have escaped that last series penalty-free if the refs weren't under orders to throw it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 07, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
Don't worry.  The fix is in.  There's no way that Vancouver could have escaped that last series penalty-free if the refs weren't under orders to throw it.

Gary Bettman is throwing a bone to Canada for trying to stop Balsillie bringing a team here?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 07, 2009, 09:38:13 PM
It's getting dark on the pond...Mom's calling for dinner...NEXT GOAL WINS!!!

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 07, 2009, 09:54:43 PM
BLACKHAWKS! :yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 07, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
 ^_^
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 07, 2009, 09:58:25 PM
:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on May 07, 2009, 09:59:51 PM
Sick goal. Good job Chicago. Way to keep that 1992 final rematch a possibility.

Ducks already up 1-0. Quack Quack motherfuckers  :menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 07, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
I'm obviously happy that the Blackhawks won, but this was a great game all around for both teams & it was a lot of fun to watch...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
:yeah:
Traitor!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 10:57:48 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
:yeah:
Traitor!
:lol: I just feel like chicago should win. they want it more. They keep fighting.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 10:57:48 PM
:lol: I just feel like chicago should win. they want it more. They keep fighting.
No way, this Canucks team wants it more!  And besides my thoughts and prayers and all the psychic energy i've poured into being a Canucks fan since 1980 demands victory!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!
Black Hawks: 15 Canadian, 3 Americans
Vancouver: 15 Candians, 1 American.

So either Way, Mainly Canadians would win the Cup lol
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!
Black Hawks: 15 Canadian, 3 Americans
Vancouver: 15 Candians, 1 American.

So either Way, Mainly Canadians would win the Cup lol

Chicago is in USA, you ignorant eggplant.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!
Black Hawks: 15 Canadian, 3 Americans
Vancouver: 15 Candians, 1 American.

So either Way, Mainly Canadians would win the Cup lol

Chicago is in USA, you ignorant eggplant.
I said Canadians, as in players. No matter where the team is, it's Canadians who are winning the cup for the teams.

Even you beloved SJ has 14 of us. We're everywhere :ph34r:. Maybe if they had more candians they'd still be in the races ;) :D
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 07, 2009, 11:31:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:26:56 PMI said Canadians, as in players. No matter where the team is, it's Canadians who are winning the cup for the teams.

Even you beloved SJ has 14 of us. We're everywhere :ph34r:. Maybe if they had more candians they'd still be in the races ;) :D

Doesn't matter where the labor comes from, as long as it is applied properly.  ^_^

(or something)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 07, 2009, 11:31:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:26:56 PMI said Canadians, as in players. No matter where the team is, it's Canadians who are winning the cup for the teams.

Even you beloved SJ has 14 of us. We're everywhere :ph34r:. Maybe if they had more candians they'd still be in the races ;) :D

Doesn't matter where the labor comes from, as long as it is applied properly.  ^_^
Yeah, but look at the Canadian teams. Two Albertan chokers, Evil Vancouver (evil calgary now, i guess, since Bertuzzi is there), One Ottawa Choker, Another Ontario team that makes so much money losign why bother winning. And a french team. If there were more germans around the Habs wouldn't even bother coming out of their locker room.

so in closing, let me have my small comforts :p
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!

Alaska belongs in Canada.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:36:24 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!

Alaska belongs in Canada.
Hey, that's my line!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:36:24 PM
Hey, that's my line!
Well now that line has momentum... Alaska, in the future close or far, shall depart from Washington's shadow and fall under the sway of Canada's mantle.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 07, 2009, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 07, 2009, 11:35:30 PMYeah, but look at the Canadian teams. Two Albertan chokers, Evil Vancouver (evil calgary now, i guess, since Bertuzzi is there), One Ottawa Choker, Another Ontario team that makes so much money losign why bother winning. And a french team. If there were more germans around the Habs would even bother coming out of their locker room.

so in closing, let me have my small comforts :p

Hey!  I like the French team!  Ever since I got NHL Stanley Cup (such an awesome game) in ~93 and kicked ass with Muller, Damphousse, Bellows, Roy, etc.  :cry:  I feel so dirty.

Edit:  They only had numbers in the game though.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:41:10 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 07, 2009, 11:40:16 PM
Hey!  I like the French team!  Ever since I got NHL Stanley Cup (such an awesome game) in ~93 and kicked ass with Muller, Damphousse, Bellows, Roy, etc.  :cry:  I feel so dirty.
MadBurgerMaker... I AM YOUR FATHER!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 08, 2009, 12:10:11 AM
fff Detroit has this one.

QuoteMadBurgerMaker... I AM YOUR FATHER!

Nooooooooooo
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 08, 2009, 12:46:28 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 07, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
C'mon Blackhawks, keep the Cup in USA where it belongs!

Alaska belongs in Canada.

Considering I think we are better armed than Canada, you can try to take it back :menace:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 08, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 08, 2009, 12:46:28 AM
Considering I think we are better armed than Canada, you can try to take it back :menace:

Are you going to defend Alaska with violence katmai?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 08, 2009, 12:54:02 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 08, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 08, 2009, 12:46:28 AM
Considering I think we are better armed than Canada, you can try to take it back :menace:

Are you going to defend Alaska with violence katmai?

Probably yeah, i mean i can see Russia from my backyard.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 08, 2009, 01:00:39 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 08, 2009, 12:54:02 AM
Probably yeah, i mean i can see Russia from my backyard.
Well then you will probably get an "AK-47" to the face... that means either the rifle-butt of one slammed into your slow moving chin or the bullet fired from one shot into your slow moving body.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 08, 2009, 01:03:05 AM
I don't know why Canadians are carrying Ak-47's but thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 08, 2009, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 08, 2009, 01:03:05 AM
I don't know why Canadians are carrying Ak-47's but thanks for the warning.

I don't know how it got here either, but i've seen one in some dude's backyard... so beware.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 08, 2009, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 07, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
this never gets old

:lol:

That is a classic. Belarus almost scared the Russians into losing this year though. We'll take comfort from more recent history, like 2006, when we beat Canada in the semifinal and then won both the Olympics and the World Championships. That never gets old.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 08, 2009, 09:16:08 AM
@ DEL:  :)

@ Vancouver: the game plan, was more or less, a neutral zone trap. one man forecheck, hope the other team makes more mistakes than you. I don't think much of that kind of hockey, so the 'nucks got what they deserved.

in game three, they were more aggressive, went with two men in. they won.
now that the series is tied and shifting back to home ice, my hopes are that they will apply more force in seeking a win. I want this series over in 6.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 08, 2009, 09:35:10 AM
I may not be able to read hilarious Canadian newspaper articles on why Canadian teams didn't win this year. And the hilarious gnashing of Canadian teeth on various fora.

I R SAD. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 08, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 08, 2009, 09:35:10 AM
I may not be able to read hilarious Canadian newspaper articles on why Canadian teams didn't win this year. And the hilarious gnashing of Canadian teeth on various fora.

I R SAD. :(
I think that at this point we're all too busy hoping that someone, anyone beats Vancouver.  Sorry.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 11:00:03 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 08, 2009, 09:16:08 AM

@ Vancouver: the game plan, was more or less, a neutral zone trap. one man forecheck, hope the other team makes more mistakes than you. I don't think much of that kind of hockey, so the 'nucks got what they deserved.

in game three, they were more aggressive, went with two men in. they won.
now that the series is tied and shifting back to home ice, my hopes are that they will apply more force in seeking a win.

I agree and I disagree with CCR that it was a good game.  It was good up until Vancouver scored the first goal then they went into a total trap and turned the game into a contest of seeing who would make mistakes rather then who could make great plays.   Vancouver is much better when they play aggressively in the offensive zone and then collapse back to their goal.  Now hopefully Vancouver will go back to the style that works for them best.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 08, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
I think that at this point we're all too busy hoping that someone, anyone beats Vancouver.  Sorry.

I can just imagine what you would be like if the Maple Leafs ever made the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 08, 2009, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 08, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
I think that at this point we're all too busy hoping that someone, anyone beats Vancouver.  Sorry.

I can just imagine what you would be like if the Maple Leafs ever made the playoffs.
Largely the same.  The difference is that I won't have to worry about that for many years to come, if ever.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 08, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 11:00:03 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 08, 2009, 09:16:08 AM

@ Vancouver: the game plan, was more or less, a neutral zone trap. one man forecheck, hope the other team makes more mistakes than you. I don't think much of that kind of hockey, so the 'nucks got what they deserved.

in game three, they were more aggressive, went with two men in. they won.
now that the series is tied and shifting back to home ice, my hopes are that they will apply more force in seeking a win.

I agree and I disagree with CCR that it was a good game.  It was good up until Vancouver scored the first goal then they went into a total trap and turned the game into a contest of seeing who would make mistakes rather then who could make great plays.   Vancouver is much better when they play aggressively in the offensive zone and then collapse back to their goal.  Now hopefully Vancouver will go back to the style that works for them best.

Ya I agree %100. They didn't deserve that one. You can't sit on a one goal lead against anyone in the playoffs. (and they've seen this team come back every game pretty much, so why would you let yourself fall into that trap of the trap?)

lame.

play better at home guys. sheesh.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 02:49:25 PM
Shirley Washington will not blow its 2-0 lead tonight right?

Ovechkin will return to form...I just know it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 08, 2009, 03:00:44 PM
Oh look, it's 3-0 Canada.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 02:49:25 PM
Shirley Washington will not blow its 2-0 lead tonight right?

Ovechkin will return to form...I just know it.

I tip my hat to your Leslie Nielsen reference.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 08, 2009, 03:29:55 PM
.. 3-1 now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 08, 2009, 07:01:46 PM
Victory over Sweden, once more!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on May 08, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 02:49:25 PM
Shirley Washington will not blow its 2-0 lead tonight right?

Ovechkin will return to form...I just know it.

If by form you mean idiotic headhunting and dirty cheap shots then you were right. He was downright shaking scared when talking about it in the post game news conference. Most anyone else and he wouldn't be playing tomorrow night, no way Bettman suspends him though. Oh well, hopefully tomorrow night will be the last time the Caps faithful can "rock the red" and see their hero before he hits the golf course.

You're blowing it again Washington. Who said the 90s were over?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 09, 2009, 01:40:31 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 08, 2009, 11:21:21 AMLargely the same.  The difference is that I won't have to worry about that for many years to come, if ever.

They do have a real coach now, I predict they'll make it next year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 09, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 08, 2009, 03:29:55 PM
.. 3-1 now.

Nothing much to say about that, a deserved win. I like the Canada team this year. Attack-oriented, not that many grinders and Ruff behind the bench.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 09, 2009, 08:51:50 PM
Pretty good Caps / Pens game so far.. OT is tense!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 09, 2009, 08:54:57 PM
I bet Tom Poti feels pretty shitty right now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Can Washington Pull back and make it a 7 game series?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 09, 2009, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Can Washington Pull back and make it a 7 game series?

I hope so, but probably not.  Regardless of who makes it out of that series, I think Carolina is going to take them and go all the way in the East.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
God i hope not.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 09, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
Quote from: jech on May 08, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
If by form you mean idiotic headhunting and dirty cheap shots then you were right. He was downright shaking scared when talking about it in the post game news conference. Most anyone else and he wouldn't be playing tomorrow night, no way Bettman suspends him though. Oh well, hopefully tomorrow night will be the last time the Caps faithful can "rock the red" and see their hero before he hits the golf course.

You're blowing it again Washington. Who said the 90s were over?

What the fuck did I do to deserve this trash talking bullshit?  Ok well fuck you to asshole.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 09, 2009, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Can Washington Pull back and make it a 7 game series?

Well they rallied against New York.  Hopefully they do can do it again.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:43:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 09, 2009, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 09, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
Can Washington Pull back and make it a 7 game series?

Well they rallied against New York.  Hopefully they do can do it again.
They do make games interesting. Either way, may the winner avenge the bruins!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 10, 2009, 12:20:23 AM
Full credit to the Hawks, they won.  I wanted that game badly for the Nucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 10, 2009, 12:25:30 AM
I'm not happy about the two Canucks penalties at the end either.  The Kesler penalty was a dive on Campbells part imo and the Bieksa one was a high stick to buddies visor.  Not surprised they were penalties but i'm not happy with either call at that point in the game.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 10, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 10, 2009, 12:25:30 AM
The Kesler penalty was a dive on Campbells part imo

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 10, 2009, 11:18:16 AM
Congrats to the Swedes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 10, 2009, 12:01:53 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 10, 2009, 12:25:30 AM
I'm not happy about the two Canucks penalties at the end either.  The Kesler penalty was a dive on Campbells part imo and the Bieksa one was a high stick to buddies visor.  Not surprised they were penalties but i'm not happy with either call at that point in the game.

I thought the Kesler penalty was weak but I was most upset with Sundin doing down on that break.  Sure it could have been a penalty but it looked like he was playing for the penalty rather then playing tough and continuing on to the the net.  I can't believe he could have gone so easily by being bumped from behind. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 10, 2009, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 10, 2009, 11:18:16 AM
Congrats to the Swedes.

Thank you. Pretty much what you could hope to achieve with that team, a lot of kids and old-timers, very few NHL stars. Eriksson and Huselius were the only 20+ goal scorers this season iircs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 11, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
This Hawks Nucks game is intense, my heart can't take it!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 11, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
Insane.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Game 7 here we come.

The Team of Destiny(tm) strikes again.  Dave Steckel is my hero  :cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 11, 2009, 10:37:06 PM
Go hawks go!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 11, 2009, 10:47:24 PM
Well there it is, didn't the Hawks could do it and I was sure that the Canucks would make it through this round.  Hawks proved me wrong, congrats Chicago!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 11, 2009, 10:49:30 PM
This is glorious.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 11, 2009, 11:04:42 PM
Looks like the refs couldn't buy Vancouver a 7th.

also, screw you russia.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 11, 2009, 11:31:02 PM
 :cheers: Blackhawks!!!

A great series all the way around the horn.  I said earlier that every night was Anything Can Happen Night, but honestly it was Any Shift Can Happen Shift for this whole series.  It was A Series of Bounces, and the Blackhawks were able to capitalize on them.  Good stuff, and Mad Props to both the Blackhawks & the Canucks for one crazy fuck of a Barn-Burner tonight...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 11, 2009, 11:33:42 PM
Hey hoss, how do the hawks stack up vs Wings/Ducks?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 11, 2009, 11:47:22 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 11, 2009, 11:33:42 PM
Hey hoss, how do the hawks stack up vs Wings/Ducks?

I honestly, completely & totally have no fucking idea, Josh.  It all depends on who Brings It on a game to game, period to period, shift to shift basis.  I almost need to see the first game against whomever the Hawks play in Round 3 to give any kind of analysis.  Both the Ducks & the Red Wings are playing great hockey right now & whomever wins that series is going to come out with a good deal of momentum.  The Red Wings are obviously the defending champions & the odds-on favorites, but even if the Ducks can top them then the Hawks will be facing the team that, obviously, defeated the defending champions & odds-on favorites.

I'm torn.  I fucking good & goddamned well *HATE* Detroit, which means that I simultaneously want to avoid them because they're so damned good & want to play them because, well, they're so damned good & the year for the Blackhawks won't feel complete to me (win or lose) without going against the best team out there.  It's like that darkie in Dirty Harry when Clint can't remember if he fired six shots or only five -- "I gots to know!"
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 12, 2009, 06:56:38 AM
:yeah:

I'm now okay with the Wings beating the Ducks, we deserve an Hawks vs Wings series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 12, 2009, 06:59:20 AM
I'm content with knowing the Cup stays in USA.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 12, 2009, 07:08:18 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 12, 2009, 06:56:38 AM
:yeah:

I'm now okay with the Wings beating the Ducks, we deserve an Hawks vs Wings series.

That one might actually be worth watching. Old rivalry.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 07:27:50 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Vancouver-paper-asks-for-Cup-parade-route-hocke?urn=nhl,158591

Delicious.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 12, 2009, 08:14:17 AM
wow. Chicago.

Luongo certainly picked a crazy time to have the worst game in his career. When the 'nucks potted their 5th goal, I was sure, the game was in the bag. not to be. the Hawks got into Lou's head. maybe the stick to the face helped.  still, adversity exists to be overcome, a small play like that isn't the reason.

anyhow, looking forward to a Wings showdown. that'll be great.

also enjoying the Caps/Pens epic. this is a damn good playoff.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 12, 2009, 08:26:04 AM
I predict Sundin will announce his retirement during the Summer. I also predict Peter Forsberg will finally give up his comeback attempts and retire as well.

Two of our greatest players ever retiring the same year, and also Markus Näslund. Would be great of them not to extend themselves over the 2010 Olympics, we need to let the new stars take over.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 12, 2009, 08:50:17 AM
I would like Sundin back, but he would have to take a discount and work out with Chelios in the off season. I don't think either is likely, the bald dude would rather play online poker.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 12, 2009, 09:39:39 AM
What with all the controversy surrounding the move from Toronto I think this was his chance to win a Stanley Cup. He'll probably be considered too expensive by most teams compared to what he can offer at this stage in his career. One alternative is to move down a bit and hope for a late surge, like Fedorov or Roenick, but I would rather see him step out honourably than just fade out. I wish Forsberg would have given up two years ago.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 12, 2009, 09:52:32 AM
Sundin had 2 good games in the playoffs, one of them being last night in my opinion, and in the rest he was invisible.  It was the same during his time in the regular season.  He is a shadow of his former self, less than half the player he used to be.  Messier was more effective when he came to the Canucks than Sundin was.  He should retire.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 11, 2009, 11:04:42 PM
Looks like the refs couldn't buy Vancouver a 7th.

Where did that comment come from?  They called a very weak hooking penalty on Obrian that led to the Hawks rally.  They didnt call the slash on Luongo, didnt call the slash to Wellwoods face, didnt call the charge on Burrows but then called the charge on Eager.... etc etc. 

However, the refs didnt decide this, no matter how many penalties they could have called on the Hawks.  I thought for sure Vancouver had this when they went up 5-4.  Thought for sure the Hawks would start looking forward to game 7.  But the hit another gear.

Hawks were full value for that win.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 12, 2009, 09:52:32 AM
Sundin had 2 good games in the playoffs, one of them being last night in my opinion, and in the rest he was invisible.  It was the same during his time in the regular season.  He is a shadow of his former self, less than half the player he used to be.  Messier was more effective when he came to the Canucks than Sundin was.  He should retire.

Agreed.  He is long past his prime.  Gillis took a chance that he might get some magic and lost the bet.  Time to use all that money to get a young gun.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 12, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Time for the Canucks to spend a few years in the wilderness of rebuilding.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 12, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 12, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Time for the Canucks to spend a few years in the wilderness of rebuilding.

no. they finished first in their division and made the second round of the playoffs (top 8 of 30 teams). they do need to retool though. choices include 1) Sundin (sign or not)  2) Sedins (resign or not) and 3) Luongo (NTC but possibly good tradebait).

if they resign the sedins to $5 million each, keep Luongo, and win the Bouwmeester FA derby (this year's silly season version of Hossa) with cap room left from not having Sundin, they will be as dangerous as anyone.

now, Calgary hasn't won a playoff series in 5 years. I think they are more in need of an overhaul.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 12, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Time for the Canucks to spend a few years in the wilderness of rebuilding.

If by wilderness you mean the off season and by rebuilding you mean adding to their core of talent then I agree.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 12, 2009, 01:39:16 PM
The Canucks could start next season without:

C - Mats Sundin
LW - Daniel Sedin
C - Henrik Sedin
RW - Taylor Pyatt
D - Mattias Ohlund
G - Jason Labarbera

Losing the Sedins and Ohlund would hurt them.  If Cory Hodgson makes the team he looks like he can step right into the NHL and be a good player but still, losing the Sedins would be a big blow to the offense.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 12, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
If by wilderness you mean the off season and by rebuilding you mean adding to their core of talent then I agree.
By wilderness I mean hanging out with the Wild at the bottom of the division, where they will stay until the middle of the next decade.

As for their core talent, Bieksa, Wellwood, Bernier, Hordichuk and Kessler will go back to being the worthless bums that they always were.  The Sedins will go play hockey in another town, one where they can win the Cup.  Luongo will be forever broken by this defeat, and will never be the same.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 12, 2009, 01:39:16 PM
The Canucks could start next season without:

C - Mats Sundin
LW - Daniel Sedin
C - Henrik Sedin
RW - Taylor Pyatt
D - Mattias Ohlund
G - Jason Labarbera

Losing the Sedins and Ohlund would hurt them.  If Cory Hodgson makes the team he looks like he can step right into the NHL and be a good player but still, losing the Sedins would be a big blow to the offense.

The only one on that list I would really miss is Ohlund.  He is a solid defenceman.  But he has grown roots here and I doubt the he will get much more elsewhere then what the Canucks would be willing to give him.

Whenever I think about the Twins I always think about the cap room we are wasting to keep the good one.  I would be happy to have the Canucks bring in young talent with the cap room left by the Sedins and Sundin leaving.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 12, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 12, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
The Sedins will go play hockey in another town, one where they can win the Cup.  Luongo will be forever broken by this defeat, and will never be the same.

The Sedins wont win unless someone already has enough talent and a big enough pocket book to put them on a second line.  That isnt going to happen because they will be very expensive. 

Luongo came from Florida.  If that didnt break him nothing will.  Having said that his hype is probably greater then his results and the Canucks could trade him for another franchise player.  He certainly did himself no favours trying to play himself onto the Olympic squad.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 12, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 12, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
now, Calgary hasn't won a playoff series in 5 years. I think they are more in need of an overhaul.
Calgary needs to overhaul themselves a defence and a backup goalie.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 12, 2009, 02:31:33 PM
...yeoman Ohlund is old and slow. he's probably gone.

... Calgary has serious cap issues, while Vancouver does not, since Sundin was a short term mercenary.

... I think the Luongo myth has been shattered. He is not: the best goalie on the planet, the inevitable Olympic starter, an ice man among slush boys, a titanic immortal who has been tragically cursed to shoulder the burden of weak teams.

He's just a very very good NHL goalie who can steal games for you when he is on top. He has bad games sometimes. And he won a World Cup ... once. That's about it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 12, 2009, 03:00:23 PM
Lots of keepers are available for Canada's 2010 team. Hopefully Luongo won't have to be the starter.

Canadian NHL Goalies :

Martin Brodeur
Stephen Valiquette
Yann Danis
Joey MacDonald
Martin Biron
Mathieu Garon
Marc-Andre Fleury
Manny Fernandez
Patrick Lalime
Carey Price
Alex Auld
Pascal Leclaire
Brian Elliot
Cam Ward
Leighton, Michael
Mike Smith
José Theodore
Wade Dubielewicz
Steve "Franchise" Mason
Dan Ellis
Chris Mason
Curtis McElhinney
Andrew Raycroft
Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers
Dwayne Roloson
Roberto Luongo
Jean-Sébastien Giguere
Marty Turco


I left some out. My choices in bold. Fuck Brodeur.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 12, 2009, 09:29:21 PM
well... that was a heartbreaker of a game... but I'm happy for the Hawks actually. they had some real gut checks as well. They played fearless. If they can keep that shit up they could make the final.... but wimp out against either of their possible next opponents, and they won't last. Fearless, it's their only choice.

Re: Luongo, I've always had reseravations about him. he's weak. the whole thing with his pregnant wife last year showed his true colours. He's a very good goalie, but over-rated. low #1 not high #1.

I'll be annoyed if Sundin sticks around. Sedins should. They learned to play defence this year and were awesome at both ends. I went from disbeliever, to believer with these guys this year.

Keep Burrows, Kessler, Mitchell, Salo, Wellwood, Sedins

ditch Ohlund (retire?) Sundin, Demitra (olde slowe) possibly Luongo if he gets all pissy.

everyone else has a level of they may be trade bait, maybe not depending on the trade.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 13, 2009, 05:32:43 AM
Phew, I'm happy that the Anaheim-Detroit series is going to seven games.  I've been drinking seven/eight/nine/ten beers a night, almost every other night for a month now & I need the extra couple of days to dry out before the conference finals start.  I woke up yesterday morning & it felt like somebody had been hammering on my kidneys...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 13, 2009, 09:21:25 AM
Burrows and Kesler rock. They rose up this year. Also Cody Hodgson, with Brampton Battalian (OHL) now with the Moose on their playoff run, should be able to contribute.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 10:02:38 AM
Three game 7s this week :mmm:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 13, 2009, 10:29:13 AM
it's awesome.

but, damn you Luongo. could have been 4.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 13, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
Bye Caps
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 13, 2009, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 13, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
Bye Caps
Valmy's curse has broken the soccer-hockey barrier. It was only a matter of time.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 13, 2009, 08:07:08 PM
crosby clinic.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 13, 2009, 08:09:22 PM
Fuck.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 13, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
yay :bowler:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 13, 2009, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 13, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
Bye Caps
Valmy's curse has broken the soccer-hockey barrier. It was only a matter of time.

Whatever they did come back and beat the Rangers.

Anyway heart breaking loses are what being a Caps fan is all about :cry:

But it could be worse.  I could be a Leafs fan.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 13, 2009, 09:53:39 PM
It's a shame that a piece of shit like Crosby can make it to the conference finals.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 13, 2009, 09:53:39 PM
It's a shame that a piece of shit like Crosby can make it to the conference finals.

The Caps made him look like Super Canuck tonight. :blush:

Fuck I wish they could have at least kept it competitive.  At home no less.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 13, 2009, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
But it could be worse.  I could be a Leafs fan.
That's teh spirit :lol:

But here's to the caps, they gave us 13 very good games.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 13, 2009, 10:31:41 PM
That's teh spirit :lol:

But here's to the caps, they gave us 13 very good games.

Yeah they had me believing.  Oh well wait til next year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: JacobL on May 14, 2009, 07:14:44 PM
Helm is FAST :worthy:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 14, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
And it's a Detroit/Chicago Western Conference Final...

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 14, 2009, 09:01:46 PM
Detroit wins.  Excellent.  The West is certain to be a good match.  However, the East is in danger.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 14, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
So far, we could end up with the same finals then last year.

That's fun, we could have skipped this whole thing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 14, 2009, 10:26:35 PM
Fuck you Carolina
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 14, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
:yeah:

Death to the Rival!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 14, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
:yeah:

Death to the Rival!
3 original 6 teams in the semi's would ahve been fun though.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 14, 2009, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 14, 2009, 10:26:35 PM
Fuck you Carolina

:elvis:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 14, 2009, 10:38:05 PM
Also, you shouldn't be mad at boston. Montreal was going to go out on the first round anyway.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 14, 2009, 10:46:47 PM
 :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jaron on May 14, 2009, 10:49:17 PM
My sister is a huge Red Wings fan, so I'm hoping they get their little asses beat by Chicago.  :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 15, 2009, 01:48:46 AM
Detroit won and Boston lost? Excellent news.

I predict Detroit in six and Pittsburg in seven.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 15, 2009, 07:13:45 AM
You could tell Boston was going to lose that overtime period.  They had some good chances, but they started trying to be too fancy.  Ward got inside their heads, and he's really the only admirable thing about that Hurricanes team.

The result is that the West must win the cup this year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 15, 2009, 09:03:03 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 14, 2009, 10:46:47 PM
:(

SUCK IT! TIMMAYISM IS DEFEATED IN HOCKEY! USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 15, 2009, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
So far, we could end up with the same finals then last year.

That's fun, we could have skipped this whole thing.

I love repeats in the finals. Oilers/Islanders; Flames/Canadians. very memorable.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 15, 2009, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 15, 2009, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
So far, we could end up with the same finals then last year.

That's fun, we could have skipped this whole thing.

I love repeats in the finals. Oilers/Islanders; Flames/Canadians. very memorable.
This is true.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 15, 2009, 03:51:43 PM
Detroit is going to choke.





:unsure:  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 15, 2009, 05:33:52 PM
fuck. CBC passed on the first two games of each series. which means no NHL broadcast (cable only) for 5 days.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 15, 2009, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 15, 2009, 05:33:52 PM
fuck. CBC passed on the first two games of each series. which means no NHL broadcast (cable only) for 5 days.

I guess it's time for you to rekindle your love for Sports bar in a different province.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 15, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 15, 2009, 05:33:52 PM
fuck. CBC passed on the first two games of each series. which means no NHL broadcast (cable only) for 5 days.
CBC is on their way out as a hockey network.  They've failed at every turn, and there's no real incentive for them to succeed.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 15, 2009, 08:17:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rc-rmvEd8&e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rc-rmvEd8&e)

From the East Coast to the West, the Leafs are the best.  :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Syt on May 15, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
Is it me or are NHL athletes more likely to sport a beard than any other sports?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 16, 2009, 12:02:32 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 15, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
Is it me or are NHL athletes more likely to sport a beard than any other sports?

It's the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 16, 2009, 01:16:20 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 15, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
Is it me or are NHL athletes more likely to sport a beard than any other sports?

You mean you don't have a playoff beard? I'm starting to look like an Hobo here.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Syt on May 16, 2009, 01:17:31 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2009, 01:16:20 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 15, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
Is it me or are NHL athletes more likely to sport a beard than any other sports?

You mean you don't have a playoff beard? I'm starting to look like an Hobo here.

Even though the Penguins are still in I don't really follow the NHL all too much.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 16, 2009, 01:21:12 AM
I think that beard comment gave that away.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Cecil on May 16, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
Dont think Detriot is going to the finals. They dont look as strong this year. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 16, 2009, 06:20:06 AM
Quote from: Cecil on May 16, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
Dont think Detriot is going to the finals. They dont look as strong this year. :(
Hard to say.  They certainly had troubles with Anaheim.  They'll be against a divisional opponent next round, and they're miles better than either of the East teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 16, 2009, 12:30:45 PM
The only team left to cheer for is Chicago. Everyone else has a recent cup. I Never go for the favourites...
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 16, 2009, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 16, 2009, 06:20:06 AMHard to say.  They certainly had troubles with Anaheim.  They'll be against a divisional opponent next round, and they're miles better than either of the East teams.

If we look back to 2007, the Wings were knocked out by Anaheim in six hard-fought games, Ducks then going on to all but sweep the Senators. Last year, the work of knocking out the Ducks had already been done by the Stars, who were then beat pretty solidly by Detroit. This year, the Wings did it themselves, in seven.

I think the Ducks is the team that is the absolute worst match for Detroit in the entire league, I'm impressed with them beating Anaheim, people were saying they were having an off-year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 17, 2009, 02:06:55 AM
Hey Beeb!

Bettman stated he'd rather see the Coyotes end up back in Winnipeg than go to Southern Ontario.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Sophie Scholl on May 17, 2009, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 16, 2009, 12:30:45 PM
The only team left to cheer for is Chicago. Everyone else has a recent cup. I Never go for the favourites...
QFT  Here's to hoping. :ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on May 18, 2009, 02:31:21 AM
Datsyuk is unbelievable.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 19, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 16, 2009, 06:20:06 AM
Quote from: Cecil on May 16, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
Dont think Detriot is going to the finals. They dont look as strong this year. :(
Hard to say.  They certainly had troubles with Anaheim.  They'll be against a divisional opponent next round, and they're miles better than either of the East teams.

Yes, they did.  However, Anaheim is a more disciplined team than Chicago.  I don't see this series going past five games.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 19, 2009, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: Delirium on May 18, 2009, 02:31:21 AM
Datsyuk is unbelievable.

I was hoping for Washington to make it to the finals.  I would love to see Datsyuk and Fedorov on the ice at the same time.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 19, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: charliebear on May 19, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
I don't see this series going past five games.

If I were sick enough to bet against my favorite team I would say Detroit in six.  But, I'm not sick enough to do that & refuse to lose Faith...

:P

That being said, though, I think that tonight is a Must Win for the Blackhawks.  They played the Wings pretty tight for the first forty minutes Sunday before imploding & had some bad bounces throughout the game (Versteeg hitting a post, somebody else (Bolland?) having the puck bounce over their stick on a Tap-In pass from Havlat), and if they can keep from giving up 175 Odd-Man Rushes a game then I think they stand a chance.  Dunno.  We'll see.  I wish the Blackhawks well...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 19, 2009, 09:20:27 PM
It's getting dark on The Pond...Mom's calling for dinner...NEXT GOAL WINS!!!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on May 19, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
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Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on May 19, 2009, 09:58:29 PM
CB and I watched the game in a former speakeasy in the middle of Detroit's old Belgian ghetto.  The bar had severely misplaced priorities and did not cancel the band in spite of the Hockey Playoffs (:mad:)  So we watched the game to some Django style gypsy jazz.

I'm delighted by the outcome, of course, but the Hawks looked much better this time.  I thought they had the Wings number on more than one occasion in the third.  I'm interested to see how the series progresses as it moves on to Chicago.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 21, 2009, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: C.C.R. on May 19, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: charliebear on May 19, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
I don't see this series going past five games.

If I were sick enough to bet against my favorite team I would say Detroit in six.  But, I'm not sick enough to do that & refuse to lose Faith...

:P


I know, sweetie.   :console:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 21, 2009, 11:23:48 AM
Stupid repeat.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 21, 2009, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.
You wouldn't watch the commercials anyway :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: viper37 on May 21, 2009, 11:52:42 AM
Though I cheer for Detroit (in a much more rational than emotional way ;) ), the referees suck.  Detroit has way too many advantages, just as Pittsburgh did against the Caps.  Way to screw the game  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 21, 2009, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.

Cable free TV is long dead.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 21, 2009, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.
Hey, if TSN outbid CBC, why should the NHL give any consideration to the CBC?  Virtually everyone has cable, except for people too poor to afford the shit that gets advertised anyways.  Moreover, the NHL can afford to take the Canadian hockey market entirely for granted.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: crazy canuck on May 21, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.

You may be in that 1% of the population who have a TV that doesnt get TSN.....
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 03:19:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.

You may be in that 1% of the population who have a TV that doesnt get TSN.....

:D my rabbit-eared populism is exposed!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 11:43:46 AM
whatever. none of this is on my TV anyway. great business plan.
Hey, if TSN outbid CBC, why should the NHL give any consideration to the CBC?  Virtually everyone has cable, except for people too poor to afford the shit that gets advertised anyways.  Moreover, the NHL can afford to take the Canadian hockey market entirely for granted.

1) CBC paid more money than TSN. they are the principle NA TV contract. CBC bid $100 million/yr, TSN paid $40 million/yr.
2) CBC ratings 1.2-2 million viewers on saturday night. even western games draw 200K more than TSN. TSN is in 9 million households, CBC is 13 million. poor or not, we all buy beer, GM trucks and credit cards: all advertisers.
3) taking your base for granted is usually bad business. however, since the WHA, the NHL can arguably afford to be cavalier. I don't think the CBC can though.
4) the CBC bends over so the NHL can broadcast on NBC on Saturday afternoons; those NBC ratings are worse than poker, horse racing, golf, bowling and Reba reruns on TNN. moreover, NBC pays no money upfront; it's all revenue sharing. apparently the NHL's cut is like 10 million a year.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 21, 2009, 03:51:25 PM
It's the deal, CBC chose not to broadcast the first 2 games of each series.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 21, 2009, 03:51:25 PM
It's the deal, CBC chose not to broadcast the first 2 games of each series.

its a shit deal. CBC bends over, NHL wields the paddle. they are kinky partners that I disapprove of.

it was a great playoff until then. CBC could have carried one series/TSN another (for only 4 games). a multiday blackout is sloppy.

then again, of course, its 30C today and I am drinking margaritas. in the real world, ice hockey is becoming less relevant with each and every passing day.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 21, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
then again, of course, its 30C today and I am drinking margaritas. in the real world, ice hockey is becoming less relevant with each and every passing day.

Hockey in June is a joke.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 21, 2009, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 21, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
then again, of course, its 30C today and I am drinking margaritas. in the real world, ice hockey is becoming less relevant with each and every passing day.

Hockey in June is a joke.

yep. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
there's a game tonight. I am going bike riding. :bowler:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 22, 2009, 10:22:37 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
there's a game tonight. I am going bike riding. :bowler:

Why It's on the CBC, you could watch it.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 22, 2009, 10:22:37 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
there's a game tonight. I am going bike riding. :bowler:

Why It's on the CBC, you could watch it.
He's angry at the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 10:28:35 AM
and the CBC.

with a forced week off, I have lost teh momentum.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
I liked Satan fighting.  Only his second fight, ever.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
I liked Satan fighting.  Only his second fight, ever.
I only saw the highlight, but it looked like he tuned that guy up.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 10:33:30 PM
No joy in Mudville tonight   :(

CB and I watched this one at a local sports bar; unfortunately they had the game on VS, rather than CBC.  I would have loved to hear Don Cherry's opinion on the penalties in the first.  The Hawks dominated the game so much in the first 30 minutes that I though I would give up at the end of the second period.  The Wings came back with a vengance and I got a chuckle out of the reaction shot of the fans after the Wings third goal.  I thought the Wings had it when Chicago changed goalies in the third; but they didn't manage to mount a credible attack in that period.

Two games in a row that went to overtime; this has been a good series.   :)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 10:47:22 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 10:33:30 PM
No joy in Mudville tonight   :(

CB and I watched this one at a local sports bar; unfortunately they had the game on VS, rather than CBC.  I would have loved to hear Don Cherry's opinion on the penalties in the first.
They didn't have a Coach's Corner tonight.  You'll have to hear what he thinks of them tomorrow.  My guess would be:  Horseshit.  Havlat needs to keep his head up.  One of the announcers was saying that the NHL was trying to spin the penalty as 'hitting Havlat while he was in a vulnerable position', which is ridiculous.
QuoteI thought the Wings had it when Chicago changed goalies in the third; but they didn't manage to mount a credible attack in that period.

Two games in a row that went to overtime; this has been a good series.   :)
Huet is for real.  Don't forget that he went 11-2 in the regular season as the backup.

Still, yeah, this is a great series.  The teams really hate each other.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 22, 2009, 10:50:05 PM
I lost 5 bucks tonite since I lost the "huet will no play a second in the playoffs" bet. -1
Keenan got fired +1
Hawks win +1

When all is done, a pretty good day.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 24, 2009, 06:49:58 PM
Insert fork, pronounce done, Go Penguins...

:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 24, 2009, 07:00:06 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on May 24, 2009, 06:49:58 PM
Insert fork, pronounce done, Go Penguins...

:weep:
Ew, gross.  Go anyone but the Penguins.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 24, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
So & the Final only start the 5th. By that time, everyone will have forgotten the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 24, 2009, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 24, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
So & the Final only start the 5th. By that time, everyone will have forgotten the NHL.

Who?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 24, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Since it seems to be Pens vs Wings, I tentatively toss my support to the Pens, mainly because Satan is on the Pens.

Even though Crosby looks like he is 15 years old.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 24, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
So & the Final only start the 5th. By that time, everyone will have forgotten the NHL.

see above. NBC/NHL/CBC.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
It has nothing to do with the CBC, in the Commish eyes Canada has no value.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
as the highest payee for the rights to the SC final, it has everything to do with CBC.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
It has nothing to do with the CBC, in the Commish eyes Canada has no value.

Can you blame him? Canada has roughly the same population as the NY/LA TV market combined. The NHL is a business. Bettman might be the face of the NHL but it's the owners and players who are pushing for more money.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:43:17 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
It has nothing to do with the CBC, in the Commish eyes Canada has no value.

Can you blame him? Canada has roughly the same population as the NY/LA TV market combined. The NHL is a business. Bettman might be the face of the NHL but it's the owners and players who are pushing for more money.

Yet 40% of the NHL revenues come from 6 teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:43:17 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
It has nothing to do with the CBC, in the Commish eyes Canada has no value.

Can you blame him? Canada has roughly the same population as the NY/LA TV market combined. The NHL is a business. Bettman might be the face of the NHL but it's the owners and players who are pushing for more money.

Yet 40% of the NHL revenues come from 6 teams.

If your point is that no one cares about the NHL in the US than you are correct.

If your point is that Canada can provide just as much potential revenue growth as the US than you are incorrect.

Canada has six teams because the NHL hasn't caught on in the US. If the NHL does ever "arrive" than there will be a lot of pressure to move a lot of those teams south of the border. I hope for your sake that Bettman isn't still Commish if it happens because you will quickly be reduced to the Canadians and Leafs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 09:37:43 AM
to borrow a sports saying, "potential" is for losers. it's like saying "she has a nice personality" :P

if it's about money, which it is, it's very rare for successful businesses to ignore their core customers.  if the NHL wants to lose millions for decades running shitty teams in bad sinking markets, because it might lead to a network TV deal in an era when networks are battling a full zamboni of niche cable and online providers it's their perogative. I think they just like the expansion fee crack cocaine myself.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
as the highest payee for the rights to the SC final, it has everything to do with CBC.
Why?  Even though the CBC shovels money at them, it's clear that they have no influence whatsoever on the NHL's decisionmaking process.  Given that Hockey Night In Canada is the only thing on the CBC that isn't abysmal, I'm less than shocked that even a moron like Bettman managed to figure out who wears the pants.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
Canada has six teams because the NHL hasn't caught on in the US. If the NHL does ever "arrive" than there will be a lot of pressure to move a lot of those teams south of the border. I hope for your sake that Bettman isn't still Commish if it happens because you will quickly be reduced to the Canadians and Leafs.
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
as the highest payee for the rights to the SC final, it has everything to do with CBC.
Why?  Even though the CBC shovels money at them, it's clear that they have no influence whatsoever on the NHL's decisionmaking process.  Given that Hockey Night In Canada is the only thing on the CBC that isn't abysmal, I'm less than shocked that even a moron like Bettman managed to figure out who wears the pants.

the CBC likes Bettman's strap on. a lot.

I condemn you to a summer of Being Erika and Little Mosque reruns.

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Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 25, 2009, 10:02:34 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
as the highest payee for the rights to the SC final, it has everything to do with CBC.
Why?  Even though the CBC shovels money at them, it's clear that they have no influence whatsoever on the NHL's decisionmaking process.  Given that Hockey Night In Canada is the only thing on the CBC that isn't abysmal, I'm less than shocked that even a moron like Bettman managed to figure out who wears the pants.

the CBC likes Bettman's strap on. a lot.

I condemn you to a summer of Being Erika and Little Mosque reruns.
Now that's the sort of thing that would cause Ultraviolence.

CBC was fatally compromised when the adoption of cable allowed people to get 13 channels rather than 2.  And now that I have a couple hundred channels (albeit few of them interesting), the CBC is spiralling into complete irrelevance.  Still, maybe they'll be able to milk some extra cash out of the cable companies, along with CTV and Global.  That should give them the money to make a few boring new shows.

Actually, I'm not sure that it was the increased channels that hurt the CBC, but rather the increase in production values and thus production costs for TV shows.  The CBC used to field shows comparable to those south of the border.  Street Legal comes to mind.  Now, they can't.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 25, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

I heard that the Spelling Bee last year had more viewers than the NHL playoffs.  That's a sad commentary, folks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 25, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: charliebear on May 25, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

I heard that the Spelling Bee last year had more viewers than the NHL playoffs.  That's a sad commentary, folks.

hey, its all about Growing the Game (TM).

for a multi billion dollar business, with millions of fans who want to watch the games on TV (and sometimes attend them), they have odd priorities.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 25, 2009, 11:23:57 AM
Quote from: charliebear on May 19, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 16, 2009, 06:20:06 AM
Quote from: Cecil on May 16, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
Dont think Detriot is going to the finals. They dont look as strong this year. :(
Hard to say.  They certainly had troubles with Anaheim.  They'll be against a divisional opponent next round, and they're miles better than either of the East teams.

Yes, they did.  However, Anaheim is a more disciplined team than Chicago.  I don't see this series going past five games.

Is it too early to say "told ya so?"
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 25, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
Canada has six teams because the NHL hasn't caught on in the US. If the NHL does ever "arrive" than there will be a lot of pressure to move a lot of those teams south of the border. I hope for your sake that Bettman isn't still Commish if it happens because you will quickly be reduced to the Canadians and Leafs.
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

Those were the days. NHL on ESPN. Even on Fox, with its stupid glowing puck and robots dancing after goals.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 25, 2009, 05:57:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
Canada has six teams because the NHL hasn't caught on in the US. If the NHL does ever "arrive" than there will be a lot of pressure to move a lot of those teams south of the border. I hope for your sake that Bettman isn't still Commish if it happens because you will quickly be reduced to the Canadians and Leafs.
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

I can't argue that Bettman's attempt to turn the NHL into NBA II hasn't been the worst managerial move in sport's business history because it obviously was. Hell, he alienated the Hurricane fans to the point that if we hadn't made a couple Stanley Cup appearances in such a short time period the franchise would have been in deep trouble with his promise of an All-Star game within a few years if people bought X number for season tickets. It really inspires fans when you flat out lie.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 25, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 05:57:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: Strix on May 25, 2009, 08:51:22 AM
Canada has six teams because the NHL hasn't caught on in the US. If the NHL does ever "arrive" than there will be a lot of pressure to move a lot of those teams south of the border. I hope for your sake that Bettman isn't still Commish if it happens because you will quickly be reduced to the Canadians and Leafs.
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

I can't argue that Bettman's attempt to turn the NHL into NBA II hasn't been the worst managerial move in sport's business history because it obviously was. Hell, he alienated the Hurricane fans to the point that if we hadn't made a couple Stanley Cup appearances in such a short time period the franchise would have been in deep trouble with his promise of an All-Star game within a few years if people bought X number for season tickets. It really inspires fans when you flat out lie.
What did he do to the Hurricane fans?  That's just silly.  Those are the sort of people he's going after.  Not exactly the sort of people, because there's no big cities in Carolina, but close enough.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 25, 2009, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
The funny thing is that hockey had already 'arrived'.  It used to be the #3 sport in the US, after all.  It took a lot of Bettman's mismanagement to destroy that position.

Besides that Hockey will never 'catch on' in most of the country.  There are tons of sports leagues at every level and every sport and only so many suckers willing to pay the outrageous ticket prices professional teams charge.  Suddenly deciding to stop watching football and start attending Hockey is going to take alot more than simply stealing a very popular Northern Team and putting them in Birmingham Alabama.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on May 26, 2009, 05:44:46 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 25, 2009, 08:43:17 AM

Yet 40% of the NHL revenues come from 6 teams.

According to this Forbes report:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/31/nhl08_NHL-Team-Valuations_Revenue.html (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/31/nhl08_NHL-Team-Valuations_Revenue.html)

40% of the revenue for the NHL in the 2007-2008 season came from 9 teams:  Maple Leafs, Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Canucks, Stars, Flyers, Bruins, and Devils.  (The Flames and the Senators are about equal to the Bruins and Devils.)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on May 26, 2009, 08:48:02 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 25, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
What did he do to the Hurricane fans?  That's just silly.  Those are the sort of people he's going after.  Not exactly the sort of people, because there's no big cities in Carolina, but close enough.

He came to town and tried to do his best 'snake oil' salesman routine promising in 2002 that Raleigh will have an All-Star game within 5 years if people bought X number of season tickets. The people did what he asked and he reneged on his promise. I guess he confused ignorant with stupid. The people in the South may be ignorant about a lot of things but they aren't that stupid especially when it comes to keeping promises.

Funny thing is that Bettman came out with a stupid comment earlier this year about how the NHL will explore the possibility of having an All-Star game in Raleigh by 2015.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on May 26, 2009, 09:01:57 AM
Why would the Carolina fans be so upset about that?  The NHL allstar game sucks ass.

What next?  The Carolina Panther fans buying up tickets because the NFL Commish promises to move the Pro Bowl away form Hawaii for one year?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 27, 2009, 09:29:26 PM
Well, hell.  Choad guzzling pederasts that would embarrass the most hardcore Catholic priest as they may be, I have to admit that Detroit is one hell of a team & they certainly are an excellent (and most obviously the better) team.  Now I hope that they rot in hell & choke most magnificently to the Pittsburgh Penguins...

:hug:

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 27, 2009, 09:39:45 PM
Well, the Wings better win the Cup.

Still, it's a shame that two dishonourable teams are playing back to back.  Nevertheless, it's cool to see a rematch.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on May 27, 2009, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 27, 2009, 09:39:45 PM
Well, the Wings better win the Cup.

No.  Zombie Toe Blake & Zombie Eddie Shore will not abide by such an injustice.  I would rather see The Terrorists win than see another Detroit Stanley Cup win...

:ccr
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2009, 04:50:59 AM
It'll be another repeat of last year's cup;  Detroit handles the puck too well, and the Pengooins can't rely on the same two playmakers every day.

Soviet Red Machine in 6.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:27:32 AM
Well, as is the new NHL tradition since 2002 with the exception of the 2007 winner, The final is 2 evil teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2009, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:27:32 AM
Well, as is the new NHL tradition since 2002 with the exception of the 2007 winner, The final is 2 evil teams.
The Flames, Oilers and Senators weren't evil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:41:15 AM
They were & are.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2009, 06:45:19 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:41:15 AM
They were & are.
You only say that because you're an ignorant clod.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 28, 2009, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:27:32 AM
Well, as is the new NHL tradition since 2002 with the exception of the 2007 winner, The final is 2 evil teams.
The Flames, Oilers and Senators weren't evil.

But they were/are chokers. :contract:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 28, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
c'mon. Calgary is a choke team, but not in that series (7 games)
Edmonton went 7 as well, despite losing their hot gaolie. so no choke label either.
I think the Sens were just outmatched. They caught their teamwide  cancer several months later.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2009, 01:04:26 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 28, 2009, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 06:27:32 AM
Well, as is the new NHL tradition since 2002 with the exception of the 2007 winner, The final is 2 evil teams.
The Flames, Oilers and Senators weren't evil.

But they were/are chokers. :contract:
Not really.  Now the Canucks, or this years' Flames team, there are some chokers.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 01:37:03 PM
IN happier news, there is again talk of the NHL returning to Winnipeg.

And not just any old team - but the actual franchies that left us so cruelly 13 years ago - the current Phoenix Coyotes.   :cool:

QuoteIt's fast becoming apparent that Winnipeg might have to get over its denial when it comes to the possible return of the NHL.On Friday, as news spread out of the Phoenix Coyotes bankruptcy hearing that NHL commissioner Gary Bettman indicated that if the team had to be relocated in Canada, the league would favour Winnipeg over Hamilton -- the reaction, as always, was cautionary.

First, we stressed that Bettman's "alleged" comments came in the form of an affidavit quoting a third party, Coyotes' lawyer Earl Scudder.

Second, we stressed that Bettman qualified the statement, that "if the Coyotes had to be relocated to Canada," the NHL would prefer Winnipeg over Hamilton.

Well, turns out there's no need to stress anymore. According to documents filed in court, the Globe and Mail reported Monday that Bettman e-mailed deputy commissioner Bill Daly on April 4, after talking to Scudder, and wrote: "I told (Scudder) that at some point, if we don't have an alternative, I will have to start looking at the moving (of the Coyotes) option."

When Scudder asked about Southern Ontario and Hamilton, Bettman said, "I responded that it's a league opportunity, the building (Copps Coliseum) is too old etc. and, frankly, if this team had to move it should first be offered to Winnipeg."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/nhl/we-cant-deny-it-anymore----nhl-could-return-45394562.html
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 28, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
it's poetry.

however, given the 300% increase in player salaries (and natch, the 300% (?) rise in ticket prices), I think it's something of a poison pill.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2009, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 28, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
it's poetry.

however, given the 300% increase in player salaries (and natch, the 300% (?) rise in ticket prices), I think it's something of a poison pill.
Not only that, but if you think Edmonton has a hard time attracting quality talent, just wait until players get a load of Winnipeg.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 28, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 02:16:57 PM
Not only that, but if you think Edmonton has a hard time attracting quality talent, just wait until players get a load of Winnipeg.

No shit, not to mention the arena in Winnipeg doesn't have enough seats.  4000 + seats less than any other arena in the NHL * 41 games a year = poor ticket revenue.  Hamilton at least would have the promise of a new arena.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 28, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 02:16:57 PM
Not only that, but if you think Edmonton has a hard time attracting quality talent, just wait until players get a load of Winnipeg.

No shit, not to mention the arena in Winnipeg doesn't have enough seats.  4000 + seats less than any other arena in the NHL * 41 games a year = poor ticket revenue.  Hamilton at least would have the promise of a new arena.

Max seats is a very poor way to judge a potential location.  15000 seats sold out every night will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 12000 attendance with a 20000 seat arena.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on May 27, 2009, 09:29:26 PM
... I have to admit that Detroit is one hell of a team & they certainly are an excellent (and most obviously the better) team.  Now I hope that they rot in hell & choke most magnificently to the Pittsburgh Penguins...

:hug:

:ccr

Such hatred makes baby Jesus cry.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2009, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Max seats is a very poor way to judge a potential location.  15000 seats sold out every night will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 12000 attendance with a 20000 seat arena.
Are there 15,000 non-poor people in Winnipeg?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on May 28, 2009, 04:47:56 PM
If not Winnipeg, I'd like to see a team come to southern Ontario.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 28, 2009, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Max seats is a very poor way to judge a potential location.  15000 seats sold out every night will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 12000 attendance with a 20000 seat arena.
Yeah, and 20,000 seats sold out every night in Hamilton will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 15,000 attendance in Winnipeg.  Bringing a team to Southern Ontario makes more sense than bringing one back to Winnipeg.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 28, 2009, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Max seats is a very poor way to judge a potential location.  15000 seats sold out every night will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 12000 attendance with a 20000 seat arena.
Yeah, and 20,000 seats sold out every night in Hamilton will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 15,000 attendance in Winnipeg.  Bringing a team to Southern Ontario makes more sense than bringing one back to Winnipeg.

Except for the fact that the Leafs, and likely the Sabres, would have to sign off on a southern Ontario team, and they have shown ZERO interest in that.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: charliebear on May 28, 2009, 04:47:56 PM
If not Winnipeg, I'd like to see a team come to southern Ontario.

Screw Southern Ontario.

I want a team in Winnipeg.  I want the Jets back.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on May 28, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: charliebear on May 28, 2009, 04:47:56 PM
If not Winnipeg, I'd like to see a team come to southern Ontario.

Screw Southern Ontario.

I want a team in Winnipeg.  I want the Jets back.
You didn't stay there, why would you want to punish a team by making them go there? :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 28, 2009, 11:52:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
Except for the fact that the Leafs, and likely the Sabres, would have to sign off on a southern Ontario team, and they have shown ZERO interest in that.

Setting aside those regional licensing issues for a moment... here is a hypothetical question for you:  If you were a businessman thinking of purchasing and moving an NHL team from somewhere in the US would you move said team to Southern Ontario or Winnipeg?  Don't forget you're a businessman and although you may be a fan, you have to think of the bottomline and financial feasibility of the team first.  Where do you move the team?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 28, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: charliebear on May 28, 2009, 04:47:56 PM
If not Winnipeg, I'd like to see a team come to southern Ontario.

Screw Southern Ontario.

I want a team in Winnipeg.  I want the Jets back.
You didn't stay there, why would you want to punish a team by making them go there? :P

After the Jets left, I left.

If the Jets returned... :unsure:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
Quote from: PRC on May 28, 2009, 11:52:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
Except for the fact that the Leafs, and likely the Sabres, would have to sign off on a southern Ontario team, and they have shown ZERO interest in that.

Setting aside those regional licensing issues for a moment... here is a hypothetical question for you:  If you were a businessman thinking of purchasing and moving an NHL team from somewhere in the US would you move said team to Southern Ontario or Winnipeg?  Don't forget you're a businessman and although you may be a fan, you have to think of the bottomline and financial feasibility of the team first.  Where do you move the team?

In what possible way do you think I approach this issue rationally?

I want the Jets back.  Period.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on May 29, 2009, 12:00:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
In what possible way do you think I approach this issue rationally?

I want the Jets back.  Period.

Ok, I thought you were approaching the question rationally earlier.. now I know.  The Jets and the NHL will never return to Winnipeg for the rest of time and you acknowledge that.  ;)

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 29, 2009, 12:05:03 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 29, 2009, 12:00:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
In what possible way do you think I approach this issue rationally?

I want the Jets back.  Period.

Ok, I thought you were approaching the question rationally earlier.. now I know.  The Jets and the NHL will never return to Winnipeg for the rest of time and you acknowledge that.  ;)

But Bettman seems to say differently.  :contract:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 04:18:22 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 28, 2009, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Max seats is a very poor way to judge a potential location.  15000 seats sold out every night will bring in a lot more revenue than having an average of 12000 attendance with a 20000 seat arena.
Are there 15,000 non-poor people in Winnipeg?

yes. but they didn't get non-poor by paying $2000 a seat annually for a non playoff team.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on May 29, 2009, 04:28:23 AM
no no no, teams out of Canada is progress, going back is just plain dumb.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Cecil on May 31, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
So any thoughts on the last game? Detroit handed out a pretty thorough thrashing it seems.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on May 31, 2009, 04:37:55 PM
I don't think anybody is watching anymore.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on May 31, 2009, 05:32:59 PM
Quote from: Cecil on May 31, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
So any thoughts on the last game? Detroit handed out a pretty thorough thrashing it seems.

I think Steve Yzerman and Ron MacLean nailed it last night in this exchange:

Ron: So, Stevie, what will it take for Detroit to win this series?

Yzerman: Four wins, Ron.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on May 31, 2009, 05:52:28 PM
Quote from: Cecil on May 31, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
So any thoughts on the last game? Detroit handed out a pretty thorough thrashing it seems.

Not enough Miroslav Satan.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 31, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 28, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
it's poetry.

however, given the 300% increase in player salaries (and natch, the 300% (?) rise in ticket prices), I think it's something of a poison pill.

True....  people in Winnipeg are tight with their money.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 01, 2009, 12:17:43 AM
Quote from: PRC on May 28, 2009, 11:52:33 PM
Setting aside those regional licensing issues for a moment... here is a hypothetical question for you:  If you were a businessman thinking of purchasing and moving an NHL team from somewhere in the US would you move said team to Southern Ontario or Winnipeg?  Don't forget you're a businessman and although you may be a fan, you have to think of the bottomline and financial feasibility of the team first.  Where do you move the team?

I wouldn't move it to a town in the US.

The US has tons of sports teams battling for tickets and media coverage.  In Canada hockey is king.

It is a no-brainer.  In Canada Hockey sells itself.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 01, 2009, 01:36:35 AM
Winnipeg should be top priority. (Go Jets Go) then Hamilton or somewhere similar. No more sun-belt hockey teams please. It makes Baby Eddie Shore (Canuck version of Jesus) cry.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:28:23 AM
As much as I despite the Soviet Red Machine...die, Penguins, die.  In 4.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 01, 2009, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:28:23 AM
As much as I despite the Soviet Red Machine...die, Penguins, die.  In 4.
Fear not.  They will.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 01, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2009, 04:37:55 PM
I don't think anybody is watching anymore.

Wanna bet?  Everyone here is watching it.  I was enjoying an outside dinner during the Chicago series, and could hear chearing drifting in from all over the neighborhood. 

We're still paying attention.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 01, 2009, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 01, 2009, 05:28:23 AM
As much as I despite the Soviet Red Machine...die, Penguins, die.  In 4.

Actually, we traded our Soviets for Swedes. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Cecil on June 01, 2009, 10:10:59 AM
Every day when that overhyped crybaby Crosby has to go home and weep into his pillow is a good day.:)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 01, 2009, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: Cecil on June 01, 2009, 10:10:59 AM
Every day when that overhyped crybaby Crosby has to go home and weep into his pillow is a good day.:)

You don't like him, either?  I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2009, 10:42:44 AM
Jacques Martin will be named the Habs Head Coach today at 2.

What in the name of Fuck? This is going to suck :bleeding:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 01, 2009, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 01, 2009, 10:42:44 AM
Jacques Martin will be named the Habs Head Coach today at 2.

What in the name of Fuck? This is going to suck :bleeding:

His record at Ottawa was truly incredible.  The Habs may not win a cup but man will they dominate the regular season.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 01, 2009, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 01, 2009, 10:42:44 AM
Jacques Martin will be named the Habs Head Coach today at 2.

What in the name of Fuck? This is going to suck :bleeding:

why not?

1) he's French
2) 500 NHL wins
3) decent track record developing Ottawa's youth in the 90's
4) Gainey figures he can work with him.

does he have a system that the Habs can't/won't play?

... Mike Keenan is available.  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2009, 11:20:02 AM
His system is a boring defense first one.

Rumor : Mario Tremblay Assistant, Jacque Lemaire somewhere in Hockey Op.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 01, 2009, 11:35:07 AM
defense might be boring, but winning isn't.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 01, 2009, 01:24:56 PM
Melanson is out!

:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 01, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: charliebear on June 01, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2009, 04:37:55 PM
I don't think anybody is watching anymore.

Wanna bet?  Everyone here is watching it.  I was enjoying an outside dinner during the Chicago series, and could hear chearing drifting in from all over the neighborhood. 

We're still paying attention.
I'm sure Detroit is still watching, but nobody else is.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 05, 2009, 07:21:06 AM
Detroit's evil has been halted for a bit now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on June 05, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
CB and I watched the game last night at a sports bar.  Every time the Penguins took a shot on goal some woman there screamed with terror as if the poltergeists were just about to club her.  After about ten minutes into the first I was hoping the poltergeists would show up.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:32:57 AM
Sweden is watching.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!

Did I miss Sather getting fired?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!

Did I miss Sather getting fired?
How would that help?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
Probably not. The team they had pushed Washington to seven games, who in turn pushed the Pens to seven games. The East is really close, and if NY adds just one or two of the right sort of players, and Lundqvist continues to mature it could be a long season in the MSG.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!

Did I miss Sather getting fired?
How would that help?

Might stop him from hiring his Edmonton buddies.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:56:52 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!

Did I miss Sather getting fired?
How would that help?

Might stop him from hiring his Edmonton buddies.
How would that help?

Man, you emo kids have a tough time with hockey, don't you?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 05, 2009, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on June 05, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
CB and I watched the game last night at a sports bar.  Every time the Penguins took a shot on goal some woman there screamed with terror as if the poltergeists were just about to club her.  After about ten minutes into the first I was hoping the poltergeists would show up.

Miroslav Satan was spooking her.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 05, 2009, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
Probably not. The team they had pushed Washington to seven games, who in turn pushed the Pens to seven games. The East is really close, and if NY adds just one or two of the right sort of players, and Lundqvist continues to mature it could be a long season in the MSG.

cap or no cap, my impression of the NYR/Sather philosophy is to try to add those "one or two of the right sort of players" through FA. results have varied, to put it nicely.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 05, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 05, 2009, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
Probably not. The team they had pushed Washington to seven games, who in turn pushed the Pens to seven games. The East is really close, and if NY adds just one or two of the right sort of players, and Lundqvist continues to mature it could be a long season in the MSG.

cap or no cap, my impression of the NYR/Sather philosophy is to try to add those "one or two of the right sort of players" through FA. results have varied, to put it nicely.
To be fair, it seems that the Rangers have improved their strategy.  They make better use of free agency than they used to, and they actually have a development system now.  You don't seem them paying elite-level money for every player on a small-market team that has one good season.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 11:43:48 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:56:52 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 05, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 05, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
And next year will be a Ranger year!

Did I miss Sather getting fired?
How would that help?

Might stop him from hiring his Edmonton buddies.
How would that help?

Man, you emo kids have a tough time with hockey, don't you?

Then Torts might not have to use overpaid old timers instead of up & coming kids.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 05, 2009, 12:07:02 PM
well so much for that sweep, Neil.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jech on June 05, 2009, 02:18:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: charliebear on June 01, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2009, 04:37:55 PM
I don't think anybody is watching anymore.

Wanna bet?  Everyone here is watching it.  I was enjoying an outside dinner during the Chicago series, and could hear chearing drifting in from all over the neighborhood. 

We're still paying attention.
I'm sure Detroit is still watching, but nobody else is.

Yup. The Pens only managed to get 10,000 plus people to show up to watch the game on the big screen outside Mellon Arena last night. They had to close down a street to fit all the people. Pathetic showing.

Good call on the sweep dude. You know hockey.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 05, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 05, 2009, 12:07:02 PM
well so much for that sweep, Neil.
Disgusting, isn't it?

Crosby must never win a cup.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 06, 2009, 03:15:33 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2009, 11:43:48 AM
Then Torts might not have to use overpaid old timers instead of up & coming kids.

Not sure who you're referring to as overpaid oldtimers. If it's Gomez and Drury I disagree, you build teams around players like that. If it's Näslund (and before him Jagr), I'd probably agree.

More important point is that he does use the "kids" or lesser known players. Betts, Dubinsky, Orr, Staal, Roszival all have important minutes. Sjöström was a good add. Avery was a mistake, too much attention on his personality.

I think they need to add a high-profile defenceman to man the powerplay and a 30+ goal scorer that is not 40+ years old. They already know how to grind.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on June 06, 2009, 03:18:15 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 06, 2009, 03:15:33 AM
Not sure who you're referring to as overpaid oldtimers. If it's Gomez and Drury I disagree, you build teams around players like that. If it's Näslund (and before him Jagr), I'd probably agree.

More important point is that he does use the "kids" or lesser known players. Betts, Dubinsky, Orr, Staal, Roszival all have important minutes. Sjöström was a good add. Avery was a mistake, too much attention on his personality.

I think they need to add a high-profile defenceman to man the powerplay and a 30+ goal scorer that is not 40+ years old. They already know how to grind.

The Rangers have a classic legacy of hiring past their prime useless players.  This goes back a decade plus.  Overpaid oldtimers is a Ranger truism.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 06, 2009, 04:08:49 AM
Yes, and my post tried to explain why that is only partly true these days.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 06, 2009, 05:36:32 PM
They're saying Pavel Datsyuk will play tonight, but Dan Cleary will not. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 06, 2009, 06:52:54 PM
Datsuyk was doing yoga on the ice in the warm up. Diva Much? Pavel?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on June 06, 2009, 08:55:25 PM
They're already shooting off fireworks here or maybe it's gunfire; it's hard to tell in the D. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 06, 2009, 09:13:44 PM
Nice collapse by the Pens.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 07, 2009, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 06, 2009, 06:52:54 PM
Datsuyk was doing yoga on the ice in the warm up. Diva Much? Pavel?

Stop it, you.  We like Pavel.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 10:21:26 AM
I think the pens will regroup, win game six in their own igloo, then march back in Joe Louis for game 7.  which will be awesome, whoever wins.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 07, 2009, 01:21:09 PM
didn't watch the game. wow. though. quite the collapse. hard to predict this seies. It's too late in the season for Hockey though. end itt asap plz.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 07, 2009, 02:38:46 PM
I think Detroit pulled out Datsyuk out of a hat just in time to change the momentum of the series. I think Pittsburg could have won it otherwise. The Wings will take it in six, which coincides with my original prediction.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 08, 2009, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 07, 2009, 01:21:09 PM
didn't watch the game. wow. though. quite the collapse. hard to predict this seies. It's too late in the season for Hockey though. end itt asap plz.

I was just commenting the other night how nice it was to watch hockey while it was still light outside.  It's usually below zero, dark as all get-out with snow/ice howling outside.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.

gagliardi was a putative partner of the canucks new ownership, who wound up going it alone. he sued for breach of partnership, and lost. apparently, he is part of a group that wants to put a team in Vaughan. expansion apparently

The Argos owners are new, and emerged this weekend. they say they would keep the team in Phoenix, but given that the Bills moving into their territory, they have huge motivation to strengthen their position and so quietly relocate the NHL team within a few years.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 08, 2009, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.

gagliardi was a putative partner of the canucks new ownership, who wound up going it alone. he sued for breach of partnership, and lost. apparently, he is part of a group that wants to put a team in Vaughan. expansion apparently

The Argos owners are new, and emerged this weekend. they say they would keep the team in Phoenix, but given that the Bills moving into their territory, they have huge motivation to strengthen their position and so quietly relocate the NHL team within a few years.

The Bills are moving?  :( Sports are teh suck.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 08, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 08, 2009, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.

gagliardi was a putative partner of the canucks new ownership, who wound up going it alone. he sued for breach of partnership, and lost. apparently, he is part of a group that wants to put a team in Vaughan. expansion apparently

The Argos owners are new, and emerged this weekend. they say they would keep the team in Phoenix, but given that the Bills moving into their territory, they have huge motivation to strengthen their position and so quietly relocate the NHL team within a few years.

The Bills are moving?  :( Sports are teh suck.

To Toronto. :cool:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 08, 2009, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.

gagliardi was a putative partner of the canucks new ownership, who wound up going it alone. he sued for breach of partnership, and lost. apparently, he is part of a group that wants to put a team in Vaughan. expansion apparently

The Argos owners are new, and emerged this weekend. they say they would keep the team in Phoenix, but given that the Bills moving into their territory, they have huge motivation to strengthen their position and so quietly relocate the NHL team within a few years.

The Bills are moving?  :( Sports are teh suck.

they cut a  deal with Rogersmediaempire that sees a limited schedule or regular season and exhibition games at Skydome. its widely expected that once the patriarch who owns the Bills dies, Rogers will step up, buy the team and move it.

cheapest Bills-In-Toronto ticket is $99. double what they charge in Buffalo. the math gets even worse for good seats.

and that's why this will inevitably happen.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 09, 2009, 07:26:25 PM
That's the worst goaltender interference penalty in the history of hockey.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 08, 2009, 11:16:20 AM

The Bills are moving?  :( Sports are teh suck.
If they're moving it'll be across the lake to Toronto.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on June 09, 2009, 10:15:13 PM
The sports bar CB and I usually go to was packed, so we went to one of the local gay friendly bars.  We sat next to the gay friendly bar's women's softball team.  They took a surprising interest in hockey; though one of the women kept yelling "Touchdown" every time one of the teams would clear it to the other side.

I'm disappointed in the outcome but the Penguins played the better game.   Osgood had one heck of a game; I hope he does that well in game seven.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 10, 2009, 06:14:49 AM
:yeah:

One more game to destroy Evil!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 10, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 08, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 08, 2009, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 08, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 07, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 07, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
OT, but there are now 4 separate groups looking to relocate/expand/acquire a second team for the GTA/southern Ontario.

Balsilie
Gaglardi ( ex Canuck's buyer)
Argos ownership
"Toronto Legacy"
I don't know about the other two, but the 4th one there is a joke.

Still, it's understandable that Toronto would want to get a winning team, and the Leafs will never fit the bill.

gagliardi was a putative partner of the canucks new ownership, who wound up going it alone. he sued for breach of partnership, and lost. apparently, he is part of a group that wants to put a team in Vaughan. expansion apparently

The Argos owners are new, and emerged this weekend. they say they would keep the team in Phoenix, but given that the Bills moving into their territory, they have huge motivation to strengthen their position and so quietly relocate the NHL team within a few years.

The Bills are moving?  :( Sports are teh suck.


To Toronto. :cool:


NFL in Canada. :ghey:

We already have football. Of course they won't be any more disappointing than the Leafs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 12, 2009, 08:16:10 AM
Game 7 is tonight!   :yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 08:56:41 AM
Emery is now a Flyer.
Crawford  hired by Dallas.
Heatley demands a trade.
Lacroix in Colorado fires almost everybody not named Lacroix.

all intriguing,
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on June 12, 2009, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

Too late for that! It's going on a decade since the last time they made the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 12, 2009, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 08:56:41 AM
Emery is now a Flyer.
Crawford  hired by Dallas.
Heatley demands a trade.
Lacroix in Colorado fires almost everybody not named Lacroix.

all intriguing,

Emery is trouble. Ottawa should be glad to be rid of him and Heatley. Now they can rebuild without The Big Three written in stone.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jaron on June 12, 2009, 10:15:34 AM
Death to Detroit! If the Stanley Cup ends up in that city, you won't ever see it again.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 12, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
You mean like last year?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Strix on June 12, 2009, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

Too late for that! It's going on a decade since the last time they made the playoffs.
Yeah, but they're still honourable with a noble history.

Besides, it's tough being in the same division as the Cheatriots.  They'll videotape you, and even if you have them on the ropes, the refs will usually bail them out.  The Bills haven't been very good, but they still have their self-respect.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

The Jays are an honourable team with a noble history and have always been good.

The Raptors are a never was.

So basically all Toronto sports teams =  the Leafs?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Neil doesn't consider (rightly so) that baseball is a Sport.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:29:44 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Neil doesn't consider (rightly so) that baseball is a Sport.

Well I don't consider (rightly so) that you are worth listening to since you are an idiot.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:30:14 AM
Eh :(

Pourquoi tant de haine?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:30:14 AM
Pourquoi tant de haine?

Parce-que tu deteste le baseball :angry:

Sorry I couldn't think of anything to smack you down with since, as far as I know, all the things you like I also like.  So I decided I had no choice but a personal attack.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:30:14 AM
Pourquoi tant de haine?

Parce-que tu deteste le baseball :angry:

Sorry I couldn't think of anything to smack you down with since, as far as I know, all the things you like I also like.  So I decided I had no choice but a personal attack.

For future Reference : "Church"

I like Baseball now, I guess I'm old (or just bandwagonning the Jays early season success).
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 11:30:14 AM
Pourquoi tant de haine?

Parce-que tu deteste le baseball :angry:

Sorry I couldn't think of anything to smack you down with since, as far as I know, all the things you like I also like.  So I decided I had no choice but a personal attack.
Tout le monde déteste le baseball, sauf quelques Americains et quelques Mexicains.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

The Jays are an honourable team with a noble history and have always been good.

The Raptors are a never was.

So basically all Toronto sports teams =  the Leafs?
Are the Raptors still in Toronto?  Meh.  The post-Jordan NBA is shit anyways.

At any rate, just the fact that a team represents Toronto is ungood.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
Tout le monde déteste le baseball, sauf quelques Americains et quelques Mexicains.

Tu es oublier les Japonais et les Cubains!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Are the Raptors still in Toronto?  Meh.  The post-Jordan NBA is shit anyways.

Truth :(

QuoteAt any rate, just the fact that a team represents Toronto is ungood.

Well I suppose it is possible the taint of the Leafs is so strong it overwhelms everything else.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Strix on June 12, 2009, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

Too late for that! It's going on a decade since the last time they made the playoffs.
Yeah, but they're still honourable with a noble history.

Besides, it's tough being in the same division as the Cheatriots.  They'll videotape you, and even if you have them on the ropes, the refs will usually bail them out.  The Bills haven't been very good, but they still have their self-respect.
They just signed TO, that shows right there they don't have any self-respect.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
They just signed TO, that shows right there they don't have any self-respect.

I forgot about that.  The Bills have already descended to Dallas levels of degredation and dishonour.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Delirium on June 12, 2009, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 08:56:41 AM
Emery is now a Flyer.
Crawford  hired by Dallas.
Heatley demands a trade.
Lacroix in Colorado fires almost everybody not named Lacroix.

all intriguing,

Emery is trouble. Ottawa should be glad to be rid of him and Heatley. Now they can rebuild without The Big Three written in stone.

Emery was in Russia last year, where rumour is he punched out a team trainer. the guy has issues, so he should be a perfect fit for Philly, which is a goalie graveyard. did Bernie Parent leave a curse?

agree with you about Heatley. lots of teams want him very badly it seems so I imagine they will get a good package of player(s), prospect (s) and pick (s) for the draft.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
They just signed TO, that shows right there they don't have any self-respect.

I forgot about that.  The Bills have already descended to Dallas levels of degredation and dishonour.

hehehe.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 12, 2009, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 12, 2009, 08:56:41 AM
Emery is now a Flyer.
Crawford  hired by Dallas.
Heatley demands a trade.
Lacroix in Colorado fires almost everybody not named Lacroix.

all intriguing,

The Flyers are already an enigma. Emery? good luck.
I'll miss Crawford as an analyst, but he's a good fit for big D. I think.
Heatley should come to Vancouver after Sundin retires (asap)
The Colorado LaCroixs? Kinda rolls off the tongue, don't it..
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
Tout le monde déteste le baseball, sauf quelques Americains et quelques Mexicains.

Tu es oublier les Japonais et les Cubains!
Peut-être les japonais, mais les cubains sont seulment une autre type de mexicain.  Et mêmes les japonais préfères le sumo, les bandes dessinées at la viole.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
They just signed TO, that shows right there they don't have any self-respect.
This from a rabid partisan of a team that signed Randy Moss.

Then again, we've known the Patriots were low-class for quite a while now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 12:33:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
They just signed TO, that shows right there they don't have any self-respect.
This from a rabid partisan of a team that signed Randy Moss.

Then again, we've known the Patriots were low-class for quite a while now.
Randy Moss isn't anywhere near the diva that TO is.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
Tout le monde déteste le baseball, sauf quelques Americains et quelques Mexicains.

Tu es oublier les Japonais et les Cubains!
Peut-être les japonais, mais les cubains sont seulment une autre type de mexicain.  Et mêmes les japonais préfères le sumo, les bandes dessinées at la viole.

What's viole? Oh you mean Rape?

I'm impress that you bother to write all the accents with an english keyboard.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
I'm impress that you bother to write all the accents with an english keyboard.
You get used to it when you're sending emails to Quebec subsidiaries.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on June 12, 2009, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 01:07:27 PM

What's viole?

Plural of viola.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 12, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 12, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Besides, moving the Bills to Toronto would simply turn an honourable team with a noble history into a bunch of shitty has-beens, just like all Toronto sports teams.

The Jays are an honourable team with a noble history and have always been good.

The Raptors are a never was.

So basically all Toronto sports teams =  the Leafs?

:rolleyes:

You forgot the Argos. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
You forgot the Argos. 

No I didn't.  I just didn't list them because I expected an anti CFL crack by arch NFL guy Neil.

The Argos just won the cup in 2004 and have the most in history.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on June 12, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
The Argos just won the cup in 2004 and have the most in history.
Plus oldest continuous sports team (organisation?) in NA
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
You forgot the Argos. 

No I didn't.  I just didn't list them because I expected an anti CFL crack by arch NFL guy Neil.

The Argos just won the cup in 2004 and have the most in history.
I have no problem with the CFL.  That said, 2004 wasn't a strong year for the league, and the Argos have been largely adrift since Flutie left town.

Now there's a league with parity.  No team is invariably good, and the only team that's invariably bad is Hamilton.  All the disadvantages of living in Ontario, none of the advantages of living in a great city.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on June 12, 2009, 09:38:07 PM
Wonder what's going through Hossa's head right now lol
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jaron on June 12, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
WE WON!!!!!!!


In your FACE, charles the bear!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Savonarola on June 12, 2009, 09:49:02 PM
Motown becomes Woetown   :(

...and the Red Wings lost the Stanley Cup.

;)

The really bad part is that Jack White is playing right now at the Magic Stick.  I knew better; I should have gone to that rather than watch the wings.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2009, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2009, 09:38:07 PM
Wonder what's going through Hossa's head right now lol
Hopefully a bullet.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: C.C.R. on June 12, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on June 12, 2009, 09:49:02 PM
The really bad part is that Jack White is playing right now at the Magic Stick.  I knew better; I should have gone to that rather than watch the wings.

No.  You must back your team.

Personally, I fucking HATE your team, but you must back your team as I must back mine.  Or something...

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 12, 2009, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2009, 09:38:07 PM
Wonder what's going through Hossa's head right now lol

God damn motherfucking Hockey Gods.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on June 12, 2009, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2009, 09:38:07 PM
Wonder what's going through Hossa's head right now lol

"At least I don't live in Pittsbur.....oh wait.  Shit."
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 12, 2009, 10:34:18 PM
Sheesh I think maybe Neil pissed off God or something. :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 13, 2009, 12:34:23 AM
good fucking playoff. congrats Pens.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 13, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
...Bettman twitches like Queeg.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brightlightsfilm.com%2F42%2F42_images%2Fcainebogart.jpg&hash=de1cb7a79a8d9948ace293c9af5b25f08f01a57c)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 13, 2009, 01:12:03 AM
and he's the size of a Keebler Elf.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 03:22:14 AM
Impressive to turn the series around like that. Have to say I like Bylsma's press conferences, he seems honest and direct, with a certain sense of humour as well. Good work for a 38-year-old with his first major coaching position.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Jaron on June 13, 2009, 06:49:02 AM
:nelson:@ Hossa. See what happens to traitors?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2009, 06:52:40 AM
Great.  More shit to hear about from the Pittsburghtard in my office.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 13, 2009, 08:32:31 AM
I'm enjoying Detroit blowing it.

Plus, Hossa looked so sad in the handshake line.  :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on June 13, 2009, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2009, 06:52:40 AM
Great.  More shit to hear about from the Pittsburghtard in my office.

Look on the brightside, the Pirates aren't winning anything in the next century or so!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 13, 2009, 09:10:56 AM
I couldn't find a proper captioning site, because I'm lazy, but I found something for Marian Hossa's T-shirt:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg29.imageshack.us%2Fimg29%2F3585%2Fcaptionerf89272f4ae845a.jpg&hash=ba063e72401512800527ee52c82c20a1bfb77d52)

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Syt on June 13, 2009, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: Strix on June 13, 2009, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2009, 06:52:40 AM
Great.  More shit to hear about from the Pittsburghtard in my office.

Look on the brightside, the Pirates aren't winning anything in the next century or so!

:weep:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 13, 2009, 09:27:47 AM
Well, no matter what happens to the Coyotes, at least Bettman will be happy for a while because the Penguins won.  Maybe that'll be enough to save his job.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2009, 09:42:54 AM
Quote from: Strix on June 13, 2009, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2009, 06:52:40 AM
Great.  More shit to hear about from the Pittsburghtard in my office.

Look on the brightside, the Pirates aren't winning anything in the next century or so!

Ain't gonna work. I see his Pirates, he raises me the Orioles.  Push.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 13, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
It's because he openly said it was because he believed more in the chances of the Redwings then those of the Pens.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 13, 2009, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?
Yeah, I don't see it either.  He was a merc with the Pens, he was a merc with the Red Wings.  I wish only confusion and failure to him, but visceral hatred?  I don't even hate Media Whore Crosby.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 02:50:12 PM
Yep, weird.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 13, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 13, 2009, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?
Yeah, I don't see it either.  He was a merc with the Pens, he was a merc with the Red Wings.  I wish only confusion and failure to him, but visceral hatred?  I don't even hate Media Whore Crosby.

I just enjoy hating. Plus, his facial expression after the game was priceless.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 14, 2009, 02:04:17 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?
Canadians are a simple people
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on June 14, 2009, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?

I feel bad for him, but still I laugh.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 15, 2009, 08:54:39 PM
:nelson

Haha suck it Canuckles!

:P

Quote
Judge rejects sale of Coyotes, move to Canada

By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer 46 minutes ago


PHOENIX (AP)—The Coyotes are staying in Phoenix.

A bankruptcy judge has rejected the proposed sale of the team to Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie, who would have moved the team to Hamilton, Ontario.

Judge Redfield T. Baum issued a 21-page ruling late Monday afternoon, concluding that the June 29 deadline imposed by Balsillie did not allow enough time to resolve the complex case.

"Simply put, the court does not think there is sufficient time (14 days) for all of these issues to be fairly presented to the court given that deadline," the judge wrote.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 15, 2009, 08:57:59 PM
Can't he just de-deadline his offer?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 15, 2009, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 15, 2009, 08:57:59 PM
Can't he just de-deadline his offer?
I dunno.  On the one hand, this is good news becaue it fucks over Ontario.  On the other hand, it saves the Leafs and Gary Bettman from being fucked over.  My hatred has me trapped, unable to decide.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 16, 2009, 06:36:58 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 15, 2009, 08:57:59 PM
Can't he just de-deadline his offer?

the opportunity is, the Dogs still do not have an owner. They will get one (August?), but the NHL will control the process. So I imagine he will submit a bid, and be declined.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 15, 2009, 08:54:39 PM
Haha suck it Canuckles!

No biggie.  The Coyotes will be bankrupt again next year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 15, 2009, 08:54:39 PM
Haha suck it Canuckles!

No biggie.  The Coyotes will be bankrupt again next year.

NHL for America only, you traitor!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
NHL for America only, you traitor!

America (outside of the big hockey regions) ruins the NHL.  My opinion on this is well known.  The NHL used to be awesome prior to all the retarded southern American cities.

I am not going to stick up for throwing pearls at swine.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
NHL for America only, you traitor!

America (outside of the big hockey cities) ruins the NHL.  My opinion on this is well known.  The NHL used to be awesome prior to all the retarded southern American cities.

I am not going to stick up for throwing pearls at swine.

That's it, when i do make it down to Texas you better be wearing a cup! :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
That's it, when i do make it down to Texas you better be wearing a cup! :angry:

I would use the one the Stars won if anybody in Texas noticed or cared that season.

Dude you live in Alaska you are hardly in a position to see what a total and absolute fail it is to have NHL teams down here.  No wonder the NHL is off TV and languishes on some obscure cable station.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:21:34 PM


Dude you live in Alaska you are hardly in a position to see what a total and absolute fail it is to have NHL teams down here.  No wonder the NHL is off TV and languishes on some obscure cable station.

I don't  doubt the failure of NHL in some southern cities, just saying there are cities here in US that they could move to :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
I don't  doubt the failure of NHL in some southern cities, just saying there are cities here in US that they could move to :P

Fine by me.  Move a team back to Hartford.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
I don't  doubt the failure of NHL in some southern cities, just saying there are cities here in US that they could move to :P

Fine by me.  Move a team back to Hartford.
And Seattle & Portland
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
And Seattle & Portland

What a freaking joke.  Washington and Oregon do not even play College Hockey.  At least have that going on first.

If those states were interested in Hockey there would be a Huskies Hockey team.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 18, 2009, 11:29:13 AM
That's a big difference between Canada (where real hockey players come from) and America. Who gives a fuck about college sports? No one in Canada. Which as far as hockey is concerned, is all that matters. That said the Memorial cup (Canadian College hockey's ultimate cup) is the hardest trophy to win in amateur sport, just like the Stanley cup is the hardest pro trophy to win. Hockey is Canadian. The rest of you are just wannabes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 18, 2009, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 16, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
And Seattle & Portland

What a freaking joke.  Washington and Oregon do not even play College Hockey.  At least have that going on first.

If those states were interested in Hockey there would be a Huskies Hockey team.

there is interest. long junior tradition. the NW has 5 teams in the WHL, the
toughest league in Major Junior.

the issues I believe are good rinks and good ownership. Ironically, Paul Allen, who owns the NBA Trailbreakers. put in a $100 million bid for the Coyotes last time they were sold (1999). He wanted to move them. I think his interest has faded since.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 20, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
The Habs sold to the Molson Family for what probably is way too much money (around 500 Millions US)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 20, 2009, 03:43:56 PM
We'll see how that works out.  I'm generally positive about the new ownership.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 20, 2009, 05:10:38 PM
GG was a good owner, the Molson should be better. This will be good. Except maybe for RDS.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 22, 2009, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: Jaron on June 12, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
WE WON!!!!!!!


In your FACE, charles the bear!

I could see from the first droppage of the puck that Pittsburgh wanted the Cup more than Detroit.

The outcome surprised all of us here.  An eerie silence fell over all of southeast Michigan after the game.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 22, 2009, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 13, 2009, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: Delirium on June 13, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
Okay, I'm not Canadian, but I honestly don't see the point with Hossa. He played 14 regular games with the Pens last year, and the playoffs. Then he switched to Detroit instead and is Judas. Is he really that special?
Yeah, I don't see it either.  He was a merc with the Pens, he was a merc with the Red Wings.  I wish only confusion and failure to him, but visceral hatred?  I don't even hate Media Whore Crosby.

Pittsburgh doesn't "hate" very well.  When Sergei Fedorov came back to town after he bailed out on Detroit, one could hear the boo's across three counties.  Pittsburgh?  Nah, they weren't well focused in their hatred of Hossa.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on June 22, 2009, 10:21:51 AM
QuoteAn eerie silence fell over all of southeast Michigan after the game.

Then came the screaming and gunfire.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on June 22, 2009, 10:23:35 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 23, 2009, 08:51:00 AM
Doug Jarvis, Associate-Coach and useless behind the bench, got fired today.

:yeah:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2009, 10:21:51 AM
QuoteAn eerie silence fell over all of southeast Michigan after the game.

Then came the screaming and gunfire.
:lol:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 27, 2009, 05:02:25 AM
Tavares an Isle
Pronger to Flyers

...and this is soo anti-Languish:
the Leafs, whose chairman is  :Joos ,
with an Irish :pope: GM 
select a Lebanese  :osama: ...
which should make  :bash: happy
because he is a  :Canuck: as well. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
Hey Katmai, Scott Gomez is now an Habs.

You an Habs fan now?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 30, 2009, 04:29:22 PM
why is this a good deal for the Habs? Gomez is overpaid and underachieving. don't you think there's a big risk it's not just NY but him?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on June 30, 2009, 04:31:04 PM
yeah Gomez has never really delivered imo... not that i've seen him play a lot mind you. I guess now he'll get some publicity as another underachieving Hab.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 30, 2009, 04:29:22 PM
why is this a good deal for the Habs? Gomez is overpaid and underachieving. don't you think there's a big risk it's not just NY but him?

I don't know.

I guess Martin & Gainey believe it was NY.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
Hey Katmai, Scott Gomez is now an Habs.

You an Habs fan now?

I should call his dad and see how Scott likes the trade :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 04:56:27 PM
Do it & I'll relay the information to the Montreal media. We could be internet famous.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:58:25 PM
Lol I couldn't do that, Carlos and my dad have been friends for like 20 years now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on June 30, 2009, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:58:25 PM
Lol I couldn't do that, Carlos and my dad have been friends for like 20 years now.

and that's why you do porn movies and still haven't won a Pulitzer.  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 30, 2009, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:58:25 PM
Lol I couldn't do that, Carlos and my dad have been friends for like 20 years now.

and that's why you do porn movies and still haven't won a Pulitzer.  :P

I don't do porn movies! :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?

I was young and Naive!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?

I was young and Naive!
It was only two years ago.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?

I was young and Naive!
It was only two years ago.

are you calling me old!

But really i just don't know if i can root for the same team as Zoupa, GF i don't care about as he is a Ducks fan.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?

I was young and Naive!
It was only two years ago.

are you calling me old!

But really i just don't know if i can root for the same team as Zoupa, GF i don't care about as he is a Ducks fan.

There's no crime in pulling for the Ducks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Fuck no.

Sorry Scotty, but no way rooting for Habs.
But you'd cheer for the Devils?

I was young and Naive!
It was only two years ago.

are you calling me old!

But really i just don't know if i can root for the same team as Zoupa, GF i don't care about as he is a Ducks fan.
He's good folks, aside from the whole smuggling arms for Hezbollah thing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
There's no crime in pulling for the Ducks.
Pronger is a douche.  I could barely stand his dirty plays when he was part of the home team.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:32:57 PM


There's no crime in pulling for the Ducks.

Sharks > Ducks > Flames >Oilers > Jets
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:32:57 PM


There's no crime in pulling for the Ducks.

Sharks > Ducks > Flames >Oilers > Jets
How many Cups do the Sharks have?  Seems to me that all those teams except for the non-existant Jets are better than the Sharks.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 09:39:06 PM
Habs first.

Now go ask Scotty how he feels about the trade.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:38:12 PM

How many Cups do the Sharks have?  Seems to me that all those teams except for the non-existant Jets are better than the Sharks.

I won't be bothered with facts sir!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 30, 2009, 09:39:06 PM
Habs first.

Now go ask Scotty how he feels about the trade.

I'll see what i can for ya :P
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 09:32:57 PM


There's no crime in pulling for the Ducks.

Sharks > Ducks > Flames >Oilers > Jets

Sharks get no respect as a no-talent southern team.

Ducks get major love for having an ex-Jet as coach.

Flames are managed by Viking, Alberta's finest (and pretty near to where I used to prosecute) and hence deserve love.

Oilers must die for having all that success in the 80s.

So:

Jets > Flames > Ducks > Sharks > Oilers
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
You're just bitter because the Oilers knocked the Jets out of the playoffs and beat them like a drum for the entire life of the franchise.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on June 30, 2009, 09:48:18 PM
Apparently the Oilers and Sens have a deal in place for Heatley.  Now Heatley just has to waive his no-trade clause to make it go through.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on June 30, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
Woot!

The Canes resigned Maurice to a multi-year deal than cried poor when it came time to resign Erik Cole and Chad LaRose. Nothing quite like losing ALL your energy guys at one time.

Go Canes! We should be good for another playoff run by 2012!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
You're just bitter because the Oilers knocked the Jets out of the playoffs and beat them like a drum for the entire life of the franchise.

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.

And if PRC is right and Heatley is heading to the City of Champions (:snort:):

:lmfao:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on June 30, 2009, 11:55:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.

And if PRC is right and Heatley is heading to the City of Champions (:snort:):

:lmfao:

Heatley rejected the deal: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283382
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: PRC on June 30, 2009, 11:55:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.

And if PRC is right and Heatley is heading to the City of Champions (:snort:):

:lmfao:

Heatley rejected the deal: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283382

:cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 06:43:45 AM
JayBow signed a contract with the Flames too. That's gotta make BB happy.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on July 01, 2009, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
You're just bitter because the Oilers knocked the Jets out of the playoffs and beat them like a drum for the entire life of the franchise.

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.
Sorry.  I was only talking about real hockey, not some WHA nonsense.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Barrister on July 01, 2009, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 01, 2009, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
You're just bitter because the Oilers knocked the Jets out of the playoffs and beat them like a drum for the entire life of the franchise.

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.
Sorry.  I was only talking about real hockey, not some WHA nonsense.

The Avco Cup was serious business. :angry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
Hossa to Chicago.

Might be for 12 years
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on July 01, 2009, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 01, 2009, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 01, 2009, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
You're just bitter because the Oilers knocked the Jets out of the playoffs and beat them like a drum for the entire life of the franchise.

Hardly.  The Jets pwned in the Oilers in the WHA.
Sorry.  I was only talking about real hockey, not some WHA nonsense.

The Avco Cup was serious business. :angry:
Maybe, in the same sense that the Memorial Cup or the championship of the Arena Football League is serious business.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on July 01, 2009, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
Hossa to Chicago.

Might be for 12 years
:(

Poor Chicago.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on July 01, 2009, 07:33:16 PM
I think Montreal made some bizarre moves.  Gainey is looking weak.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
This is insane, especially Gaborik's deal.

Weak? I'm just happy he's active.

With Gionta signing, it sadly means Kovalev is gone. Thankfully it means Koivu is also gone.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: katmai on July 02, 2009, 03:42:31 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
This is insane, especially Gaborik's deal.

Weak? I'm just happy he's active.

With Gionta signing, it sadly means Kovalev is gone. Thankfully it means Koivu is also gone.

He has a hardon for Devils players?

But really Gionta and Gomez were pretty successful on the same line with Elias back in 03-04
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 02, 2009, 06:03:07 AM
It's the new face of the Montreal Canadiens.

I miss Komisarek :(
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on July 02, 2009, 07:50:11 AM
Hopefully the new face of the Montreal Canadiens will be able to be a little bit physical.  They need some grit, pronto.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: charliebear on July 02, 2009, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 01, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
Hossa to Chicago.

Might be for 12 years

I'm not sad about this.  Hossa didn't even show up during the Finals.  He contributed next to nothing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 02, 2009, 06:03:07 AM
It's the new face of the Montreal Canadiens.


?

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Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 11:04:02 AM
Havlat is still unsigned?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 02, 2009, 11:07:46 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 11:04:02 AM
Havlat is still unsigned?

With the Wild 6 years 30M$
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
heh. any deals left?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 02, 2009, 11:26:09 AM
Scuderi
Koivu
Kovalev
Biron
Beauchemin
Tanguay
Sundin
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on July 02, 2009, 11:56:02 AM
:lol:  Sundin.

Never has there been more hot air blown about a less talented player.  At least when Favre fucks around, you know he's a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer and a big deal.  Sundin was a good player who happened to play for a terrible team with a huge media market.  He is not The Answer.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 02, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
He can show the young kids to play pokers tho. He needs to go to Pheonix really.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 03:32:45 PM
as a Canucklehead, I would sign Sundin for 25% above league average which is $2.1 million. I think he fits in Vancouver.  But I would demand a full season.

Tanguay. Tanguay is intriquing.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 04, 2009, 03:48:50 PM
QuoteThe Columbus Blue Jackets have locked up their franchise player, signing star winger Rick Nash to an eight-year, $62.4 million deal.

Yeah.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on July 05, 2009, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on July 02, 2009, 03:32:45 PM
as a Canucklehead, I would sign Sundin for 25% above league average which is $2.1 million. I think he fits in Vancouver.  But I would demand a full season.

Tanguay. Tanguay is intriquing.


Tanguay is a great great player. under the radar of many, though. I'd give Sundin a chance at the salary you suggest, but not a penny more, and yeah I'd love to see him with a season under his belt. I think he'd have a way better March & playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 06, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
I think I'm going to be a Sens fan now.

Kovy Kovy!
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 06, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
I think I'm going to be a Sens fan now.

Abandon all hope ye who enter here.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
Gay Fox is a Timmay. I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 07, 2009, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
Gay Fox is a Timmay. I'm not surprised.

The Ottawa Senators aren't exactly the New England Patriots of the NHL.

but I can't be a Sens fan, I'll just cheer when Kovalev dekes Komisarek out of his skates.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 07, 2009, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
Gay Fox is a Timmay. I'm not surprised.

The Ottawa Senators aren't exactly the New England Patriots of the NHL.

but I can't be a Sens fan, I'll just cheer when Kovalev dekes Komisarek out of his skates.

Thou hast been judged and thou hast been found guilty.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 10:07:52 AM
Canucks signed Raycroft as a cheap, replaceable backup/practice goalie. the problem is, he's still lost his game.

Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: HVC on July 07, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
Toronto has like waht, 4 of the same players from before Burke? lol
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
Hmmm, the Bluejackets sign Pascal Pelletier. Whoever the fuck that is.

They better give Nash some socoring help.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 07, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
Hmmm, the Bluejackets sign Pascal Pelletier. Whoever the fuck that is.

They better give Nash some socoring help.

No one, he won't play in the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: HVC on July 07, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
Toronto has like waht, 4 of the same players from before Burke? lol

even if it's really just lateral moves, sometimes it's good to have a change.

still though, you can rebuild forever in Toronto. just like, inexplicably, Los Angeles.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on July 07, 2009, 11:31:39 AM
It's going good for Burke, Monster has signed a 1 year contract with the Leafs.

Poor Toskala.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on July 07, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
so the Leafs are going strictly on size for their moves? :unsure:

Goalie looks like the most solid of their changes.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 07, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
so the Leafs are going strictly on size for their moves? :unsure:

Goalie looks like the most solid of their changes.
seems to be the plan: "if we are gonna suck (i.e tank), we may as well be big."
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
*bump*

crazy off season.

so who will win the Coyotes auction on September 10th? NHL, Balsilie or Ice Edge?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Strix on September 02, 2009, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
*bump*

crazy off season.

so who will win the Coyotes auction on September 10th? NHL, Balsilie or Ice Edge?

I was hoping to win it but didn't pick the right numbers in the last Mega Millions. :cry:
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Valmy on September 02, 2009, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
*bump*

crazy off season.

so who will win the Coyotes auction on September 10th? NHL, Balsilie or Ice Edge?

Balsilie would win if it was based on rational economics.  Instead the NHL seems to be obsessed with trying to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix even though they are neither competitive nor profiteable and will probably legally block him and buy the team for far less than what he is offering.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on September 02, 2009, 09:47:19 AM
Canucks have made some all right depth signings for their D.

And the Players Union appears to be as stupid as ever by firing Paul Kelly for not being "confrontational" enough with the league. 
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on September 02, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2009, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
*bump*

crazy off season.

so who will win the Coyotes auction on September 10th? NHL, Balsilie or Ice Edge?

Balsilie would win if it was based on rational economics.  Instead the NHL seems to be obsessed with trying to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix even though they are neither competitive nor profiteable and will probably legally block him and buy the team for far less than what he is offering.
Well, the Commish would lose a lot of face if the Phoenix team moved, wouldn't he?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 10:40:29 AM
Quote from: PRC on September 02, 2009, 09:47:19 AM
Canucks have made some all right depth signings for their D.

And the Players Union appears to be as stupid as ever by firing Paul Kelly for not being "confrontational" enough with the league.

crazily, they used Buzz Hargrove to investigate Kelly. wtf?
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 02, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2009, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
*bump*

crazy off season.

so who will win the Coyotes auction on September 10th? NHL, Balsilie or Ice Edge?

Balsilie would win if it was based on rational economics.  Instead the NHL seems to be obsessed with trying to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix even though they are neither competitive nor profiteable and will probably legally block him and buy the team for far less than what he is offering.
Well, the Commish would lose a lot of face if the Phoenix team moved, wouldn't he?

but he loses more face by digging in his heels, and then offering to move them, just in case they still cannot find a qualified buyer, and thereby breaking the rink lease, within a year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on September 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
Canucks just signed Luongo to a 12 year deal.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on September 02, 2009, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
Canucks just signed Luongo to a 12 year deal.

Does this mean he'll be traded on Mar. 15? :p I think these 10+ yr contracts are silly.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Zoupa on September 02, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
It's just a way for GMs to fuck with the salary cap
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
Canucks just signed Luongo to a 12 year deal.

good deal. good term, good price. $64 million, which averages $5.5 a year.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: saskganesh on September 02, 2009, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 02, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
It's just a way for GMs to fuck with the salary cap

its ok. beats the alternative: unrestrained bidding and $80 million payrolls for the top teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
Theo Fleury comeback? MY PANTS ARE A DAIRY FACTORY
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on September 18, 2009, 08:26:54 PM
Leafs just got Kessel (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=291601)
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: PRC on September 19, 2009, 03:08:38 AM
Anyways it's obvious even now that the Canucks are favoured to win the Cup. 

Penguins were flash in the pan, I fear Detroit more.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Neil on September 19, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
The Canucks?  Too weak and cowardly.  They lack the courage to go all the way.  Detroit lacks the courage as well, but they have miles and miles of skill.

Somebody should probably start a new thread soon, since it is the 2010 season now.
Title: Re: NHL 2009 Official Thread
Post by: Grey Fox on September 19, 2009, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 19, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
The Canucks?  Too weak and cowardly.  They lack the courage to go all the way.  Detroit lacks the courage as well, but they have miles and miles of skill.

Somebody should probably start a new thread soon, since it is the 2010 season now.

You do it!