Interesting news out of the SEC:
QuoteWith only three weeks until the June 20 deadline when conference leaders hoped to have a final playoff model to sell to television executives, the time for compromise draws near. Which is why it's so interesting that the chair of the SEC's presidents and chancellors group would draw a line in the sand on one of the most controversial issues. Florida president Bernie Machen said the SEC would not compromise on having the four highest ranked teams in the playoff rather than a group of conference champions.
"We won't compromise on that," Machen said at the SEC spring meetings. "I think the public wants the top four. I think almost everybody wants the top four."
At this juncture, such a bold statement raises some serious questions about whether conference leaders can reach a consensus. It's one thing for a league leader to say the conference prefers a particular model. It's quite another to eliminate all wiggle room on a particular issue.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_staples/05/31/sec.meetings/index.html#ixzz1wfXkIOws
Interesting that the SEC has decided to take a cue from the Republican House, when that institution is enjoying its worst public image ever. If the SEC cannot even figure out how to determine which of its teams is the best, maybe they should spend more time on that question, rather than worry about how a national playoff should be structured. Replaying games seems to me to be a foolish waste of scarce tournament spaces; sure, if there are 32 or 64 teams, replays don't cause much waste, but not if there are only four spots.
I am wondering what will happen if the other conferences call their bluff. A standoff that leads to a +1 game, a standoff that sees the SEC on the outside, or a back-down from the SEC (as in "he doesn't speak for the conference")?
I don't think more beauty-contest championships will satisfy anyone.
Well the Big 12 came out in favor of the top 4 but claiming you are not going to compromise on it is pretty crazy.
Quote from: Valmy on June 02, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
Well the Big 12 came out in favor of the top 4 but claiming you are not going to compromise on it is pretty crazy.
The Big 12 favors a selection committee. That's different from the SEC, which wants the top 4 in the current BCS "beauty contest plus black box" system.
As long as traditional football powerhouses like Wyoming don't get left out, I am okay with this.
I rather like the idea of the four being the champs of the SEC, B12, Pac12 and B10(12). Screw you Notre Dame--join a conference. Same for Miami and FlSt.
Miami is about to get wrecked. I don't think it's really going to matter much for them for a while.
E: I don't necessarily mean the death penalty, just that it could be one of those "might as well be the death penalty" type deals. I personally wouldn't really be opposed to Miami being in the Big 12 (a weekend in Miami to see a Horns football game just wouldn't be a bad thing ever, I don't think), but the upcoming punishment they're going to get, and how their administration might react to that, is certainly something the "realignment people" are looking at. Why bother adding them if they get crushed and are looking like they're going to be SMU+beaches for the next 10 or 20 years and all they do is drag the SOS down?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 04, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
I rather like the idea of the four being the champs of the SEC, B12, Pac12 and B10(12). Screw you Notre Dame--join a conference. Same for Miami and FlSt.
My current favorite B10-proposed scheme is the "conference champions if in the top six" scheme, so long as the "top six" choosing system isn't the current system. This allows for wild cards.
Better would be the B12's selection committee system, though. At least that would have to be somewhat transparent, even if you didn't buy the explanation.
Quote from: grumbler on June 04, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
This allows for wild cards.
Yeah, I like this concept, too. Opens up the possibilities for collective Berkut-style aneurysms.
MOTHERFUCKING STONEBURNER. Urban SMASH!
ED ANGRY!
Today, we are all Badgers.
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That's right, even you. :ph34r:
Oops! Turns out UNC has football-player-only courses that offer no instruction or classes, but the students get full credit (for a single 15-page paper that we know will be written for them) while the prof pockets $12k for "teaching" it.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/08/2123750/unc-football-players-flocked-to.html#storylink=cpy
Quote'Taken by surprise'
The criminal investigation of the AFAM 280 class came after The N&O requested records related to summer pay Nyang'oro might have received in relation to the suspect classes. Nyang'oro received summer pay only for the AFAM 280 class last summer, and it was the standard amount: $12,000.
Thorp told trustees that the university is trying to get that money back. Thorp said Nyang'oro signed a contract that made it clear the class was to be taught in a lecture format, but he treated it as an independent study.
"Students in the class wrote papers and were graded," Thorp said in the letter. "Nevertheless, Nyang'oro did not meet the University's instructional expectations, and we do not believe that he should have been paid."
Trustees either declined comment or couldn't be reached Friday.
Email correspondence released Friday shows that Nyang'oro went to a professor in his department, Tim McMillan, on June 14 to add AFAM 280 to the summer calendar. McMillan normally teaches the class.
"Sure," McMillan replied. "How many students will I have?"
"No more than 5," Nyang'oro responded. "I will be Instructor of record and relieve you of responsibility and bother. A big relief for you?????"
Nyang'oro then talked to Jan Yopp, a journalism professor who also serves as dean for the summer school. On June 16, the day the summer semester began, Yopp sent a notice to Nyang'oro that the class was open for registration.
Four days later, Nyang'oro told her 18 students had enrolled in the class. It makes no mention that all were football players.
"I am totally taken by surprise!" Nyang'oro wrote.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/08/2123750/unc-football-players-flocked-to.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy
On top of all the other NCAA allegations against UNC for academic fraud and corrupt coaches, administrators, and boosters, I'm wondering if this will be the tipping point for the death penalty. It's hard to imagine UNC claiming that they have a handle on things when this occurred
after a host of other improprieties had been publicized.
I want to get 12k per course :(
I would pass athletes.
Seedy gets a shout-out from mgoblog: http://mgoblog.com/content/michigan-museday-counts-de-monet
QuoteMichigan Museday Counts de Monet
Seth gets the monicker slightly wrong and is corrected in the second comment.
An interesting article for those who care about the money side of football (as opposed to the Money side of football). These numbers are for all athletics, of course, not just football, but we know football dominated university athletic finances.
An interesting exception to this rule would seem to be UNC basketball; UNC received almost $43 million in direct TB revenues from 2008-2011, plus whatever the ACC pays as a conference (not enough to make the cut here). Since all the ACC games are covered by the ACC TV contract, these must be TV rights for non-conference games, which means basketball primarily. That's some pretty sweet cash for an inexpensive sport (relatively speaking).
The weirdest number on the face of it is OSU getting almost $15 million for playing away games at USC and at Miami (FL) (plus whatever BBall game income they got). That number's gotta be a typo, or has to include bowl revenue. Since they are reporting $22 million less than Michigan in TV revenue from the NCAA and B10, I believe it is probably the latter.
Sweetest deal goes to Indiana which with a crap football team gets equal shares of the B10 Network and conference TV revenues, and then gets NCAA revenues based on games played in the Big Dance. Indiana makes more TV revenue than anyone on the list except Ohio State (and less than $2 million less than even them by eyeball math).
Texas, no surprise, is the big winner in total revenue (about 10% more than #2 Alabama) and led in ticket sales (which kinda surprised me, since Texas season tickets are only $400 and the stadium seats only 100,000 = $40M per season, while Michigan's tickets are $375 and the stadium holds 114,000 = $42.75M - not to mention OSU, whose season tickets are a whopping $600 in a 102,000-seat stadium, for a season gate of $61M). All of those assume that all ticket-holders are season ticket holders, which isn't true, but does texas have that many fewer student tickets?
Texas also led in royalties (i.e. paraphernalia sales and ads), which surprised me not at all. Michigan being #2 did surprise me; it's been a while since Michigan was a "top name" in any sport. Must be all the recent jersey sales in Ohio.
An amusing add-on from the numbers in the article listed above: Central Florida charges $99 for season tickets to their 45,000-seat stadium, meaning they get $4.5 million a year in gate if they sell out every game at season-ticket prices. They charge a sports surcharge to all of their students that amounts to over $16.5 million a year. That seems to me to be the most bizarre and corrupt financing plan in college football.
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
but does texas have that many fewer student tickets?
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I haven't been to a game in a while, but IIRC it's like 19 - 27 (maybe 18 too), some number of sections in the upper decks above that (possibly all of the upper decks above those sections, but I'm not sure), with the band and more student seating in the little south endzone section. Visitors sit in ~32 and 132. Maybe part of the sections next to those as well. 101-109 are the good spots where I like/d to sit, with actual seats with backs and arms and such without being too terribly expensive.
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
Texas, no surprise, is the big winner in total revenue (about 10% more than #2 Alabama) and led in ticket sales (which kinda surprised me, since Texas season tickets are only $400 and the stadium seats only 100,000 = $40M per season, while Michigan's tickets are $375 and the stadium holds 114,000 = $42.75M - not to mention OSU, whose season tickets are a whopping $600 in a 102,000-seat stadium, for a season gate of $61M). All of those assume that all ticket-holders are season ticket holders, which isn't true, but does texas have that many fewer student tickets?
I wonder if these figures account for donations? I'm not sure how it works at other schools, but at UF there is a required donation to get non student season tickets. The required donation ranges from $100 to $2450 per seat, with the decent seats starting at $400 per seat. This is on top of the $280 season ticket price. There are also special perks if you donate 12k+ a year. I imagine luxury boxes are priced specially as well.
I imagine schools account for similar required donations separately and that might be why the numbers look off.
Edit:Should have read further down in the post. Donations and contributions are accounted for separately. I'm not surprised UF leads the way in that category.
Another funky thing I saw was that FSU beat out UF big time in royalties/sponsorships/licensing, $47 million vs. $37 million. UF is significantly more popular than FSU, and I see way more people wearing UF gear around the state. I wonder if this an artifact of accounting- e.g. corporate luxury boxes are counted towards this item at FSU, and counted towards donations at UF. Corporate deals with sports teams usually have multiple components- a deal might include for one lump sum: regular tickets, box seats, stadium signs, in-game advertising, etc. Schools might inconsistently account for this sort of revenue from corporate deals.
Anyways, since schools all do their accounting differently, and there is always a possibility of shadiness(e.g. USC's expenses exactly matching revenue) you'll never get a true apples to apples comparison, but the numbers are interesting nonetheless.
Quote from: stjaba on June 13, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
I wonder if these figures account for donations? I'm not sure how it works at other schools, but at UF there is a required donation to get non student season tickets.
According to Rivals.com (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094191) Texas has no minimum donation which, as you say, doesn't go under ticket sales, either.
QuoteAnother funky thing I saw was that FSU beat out UF big time in royalties/sponsorships/licensing, $47 million vs. $37 million. UF is significantly more popular than FSU, and I see way more people wearing UF gear around the state. I wonder if this an artifact of accounting- e.g. corporate luxury boxes are counted towards this item at FSU, and counted towards donations at UF. Corporate deals with sports teams usually have multiple components- a deal might include for one lump sum: regular tickets, box seats, stadium signs, in-game advertising, etc. Schools might inconsistently account for this sort of revenue from corporate deals.
Yeah, that's one category I am willing to chalk up to "accounting differences" (though as much for the Michigan numbers as the FSU/UF numbers).
QuoteAnyways, since schools all do their accounting differently, and there is always a possibility of shadiness(e.g. USC's expenses exactly matching revenue) you'll never get a true apples to apples comparison, but the numbers are interesting nonetheless.
Agreed.
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
According to Rivals.com (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094191) Texas has no minimum donation which, as you say, doesn't go under ticket sales, either.
Perhaps Texas charges students for season tickets, and Michigan doesn't? For instance, UF charges students $111($15 per game plus $6 service fee) for season tickets.
Quote from: stjaba on June 13, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
Perhaps Texas charges students for season tickets, and Michigan doesn't? For instance, UF charges students $111($15 per game plus $6 service fee) for season tickets.
Michigan charges for student tickets. They sell every student who wants one a whole-season ticket, though, unlike some schools that only allow a given student to buy tickets to half the home games. I don't think that is true of Texas, though.
I think it is interesting that UCLA charges only $99 for season tickets, with no required donation.
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
I think it is interesting that UCLA charges only $99 for season tickets, with no required donation.
That doesn't surprise me. UCLA plays in the Rose Bowl, which is relatively large (90,000 capacity). It isn't the most popular team in the area. It doesn't have a particularly rabid fanbase and hasn't been relevant since the 1990's.
Quote from: stjaba on June 13, 2012, 03:43:41 PM
That doesn't surprise me. UCLA plays in the Rose Bowl, which is relatively large (90,000 capacity). It isn't the most popular team in the area. It doesn't have a particularly rabid fanbase and hasn't been relevant since the 1990's.
UCLA is a huge school with an alumni base that mostly lives locally. Their stadium isn't that large (it would be about average for an SEC team) but is located a long ways from campus. Notre Dame hasn't been relevant since the 1990s either, and yet can charge $1740 in tickets and minimum donations and sell out every game.
I wouldn't expect UCLA to be able to charge like ND, but I would expect it to be able to charge more than Navy or Indiana.
It is interesting to note that USC's attendance has plummeted right along with UCLA's.
You don't get "seen" at football games. So it's Lakers >>>>>>> Clippers >>>>>>>> everybody else. :P
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 05:26:58 PM
It is interesting to note that USC's attendance has plummeted right along with UCLA's.
They suffer from the same malaise as every other football event in LA; people just really aren't into it. Rams, Chargers, even the Raiders saw it. LA is just a shitty place for football.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 13, 2012, 08:07:18 PM
They suffer from the same malaise as every other football event in LA; people just really aren't into it. Rams, Chargers, even the Raiders saw it. LA is just a shitty place for football.
Not sure what you mean. USC's peak attendance was 2006, and UCLA's 2007. How does that fit into a narrative about the Chargers or the Rams or the Raiders? I thought the Raiders left in like 1995, the Rams in 1994, and the Chargers in 1961.
I know that LA is a crappy sports town, other than the occasional "trendy" team bump, but still don't understand why UCLA in particular has such a shitty football culture among its fans. Sure, they've had some crappy teams lately, but lots of teams have bumpy patches and still keep their fans. Hell, Notre Dame, as mentioned before, has been about as bad as UCLA and still sells out at a
very pricey stadium.
Jesus buys the ND tickets.
Other than the active students, I just don't see UCLA's or USC's alum as football crazy as other teams. Face it, there's simply more to do in LA in late fall than there is in Blacksburg or Knoxville.
I wonder if anyone's done any stats on how many alum from those schools ever stayed in the SoCal area, or are scattered all across the country?
Quote from: grumbler on June 13, 2012, 05:26:58 PM
UCLA is a huge school with an alumni base that mostly lives locally. Their stadium isn't that large (it would be about average for an SEC team) but is located a long ways from campus. Notre Dame hasn't been relevant since the 1990s either, and yet can charge $1740 in tickets and minimum donations and sell out every game.
There are two issues here. First, what matters is the size of the fanbase, not the alumni base. I bet you plenty of Notre Dame season ticket holders never set foot in a single class at Notre Dame. Same with USC or plenty of other schools. State schools like OSU or UF have lots of non-alumni fans too.
Second, we're talking about a Pac-12 team. College football (and the surrounding traditions) is much more ingrained in some parts of the country compared to others. Ole Miss games are going to be well attended no matter how crappy the team is because tailgating in the Grove is part of the local culture and because there's nothing else to do in Mississippi. I just don't think that's the case at schools like UCLA or Miami(Fla).
Quote from: stjaba on June 14, 2012, 12:28:15 AM
There are two issues here. First, what matters is the size of the fanbase, not the alumni base. I bet you plenty of Notre Dame season ticket holders never set foot in a single class at Notre Dame. Same with USC or plenty of other schools. State schools like OSU or UF have lots of non-alumni fans too.
Alumni are the core of many fan bases. UCLA has a lot of local alumni - I read somewhere that it has the largest local alumni base in the country. But it still can only charge $95 for season tickets and even then doesn't fill the stadium past 60-70%. I just find that odd. No other big school charges so little and sells so few tickets.
QuoteSecond, we're talking about a Pac-12 team. College football (and the surrounding traditions) is much more ingrained in some parts of the country compared to others. Ole Miss games are going to be well attended no matter how crappy the team is because tailgating in the Grove is part of the local culture and because there's nothing else to do in Mississippi. I just don't think that's the case at schools like UCLA or Miami(Fla).
You are describing an outcome, though, not a cause. Plenty of schools in or near big cities do well with attendance. The University of Washington is right in Seattle, charges twice as much for tickets, and sells more tickets. Miami (FL) is a good comparison to UCLA, now that you mention them, though: They charge $115 for season tickets and sell only 40-50,000 tickets, or 60-70% of their seats.
I wonder if it has to do with living off-campus. Maybe schools like UCLA and Miami (FL) have a large off-campus student population that then never bonds with the school like a more on-campus crowd (I can't find any data on percentage of freshmen living in dorms, but I know it is high at Michigan and low at USC).
I just think it is interesting. I'm not expecting an answer.
This is for grumbler. Just because.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrYkeXNYOG8
It's funny. Stupid funny.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
This is for grumbler. Just because.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrYkeXNYOG8
It's funny. Stupid funny.
:huh:
Check your link again.
Quote from: grumbler on June 21, 2012, 07:03:15 AM
Check your link again.
Shit. Stupid cut and paste. Rawr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUKLoQlQ-0
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 21, 2012, 07:10:18 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 21, 2012, 07:03:15 AM
Check your link again.
Shit. Stupid cut and paste. Rawr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUKLoQlQ-0
That's a real blast from the past! I guess Smith seems relevant (for the first time in years) because he got the Arkansas job. He is the best thing going, for opposing teams' fans. :lol:
Hey Seedy, since I watched your vid, now you watch mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzHGdhdKxVk&feature=player_embedded#!
:lmfao: :lmfao: Oh fuck, the footage of the first 2 and a half minutes are impeccably timed, in so many ways. "Adventurous reach" and the grab, "the wars we've fought" and the Mich State footage, "all the chaos" and Rod..."That man's not a salesman, that's your Daddy." :lol: Awesomely, awesomely done.
Some LSU fans opt to be unclassy, instead engage in epic fail:
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"then support"?
Louisiana. :bleeding:
I'm so glad that LSU is one of the schools that I root against anyway.
Hey Valmy, did you see that Marquise Goodwin qualified for the Olympics?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19419380/texas-wr-marquise-goodwin-qualifies-for-us-olympic-team
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27ft 4in. Impressive. :punk:
Not branded as a bowl game? Lame.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/26/its-official-presidents-approve-four-team-playoff/related/
QuoteIt's official: presidents approve four-team playoff
Posted by John Taylor on June 26, 2012, 6:19 PM EDT
Jumping for joy AP
Finally, common sense has prevailed in major college football.
While it's far from what most fans and even some connected to the sport ultimately want, the BcS Presidential Oversight Committee has given its official stamp of approval for a four-team playoff. The seeded event will begin following the 2014 regular season, with the current system being utilized this year and next to crown a champion.
The 12-year agreement signed off on by the presidents will consist of six bowl games rotating as hosts of the semifinals. The championship game will be bid out separate from those two games.
In a joint statement, the committee acknowledged the "controversial" nature of the soon-to-be previous system while seeking to "build an even better college football season" — and possibly pulling a muscle or two congratulating themselves for taking the sensible path for once.
"We recognize that the BCS has been controversial in some years, but we also believe it has turned college football from a regional sport into a wonderfully popular national sport, much to the benefit of our alumni, student-athletes and fans," the twelve members of the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee said in a joint statement. "We now seek to build an even better college football season by creating a four-team playoff to crown the national champion, while protecting the regular season and the bowl experience.
"We're delighted to support this format and congratulate the group of conference commissioners who have done so much for college football and who worked so hard to make this happen."
In its release on the playoff development, the presidents addressed several issues that have been resolved, although at least a couple remain open for discussion.
The championship game will be managed by the conferences and will not be branded as a bowl game.
Enhance college football by playing the semifinals New Year's Eve or New Year's Day. The date of the first semifinal games will be either Wednesday, December 31, 2014, or Thursday, January 1, 2015.
Create "Championship Monday" by setting the date of the championship game on the first Monday in January that is six or more days after the final semi-final game is played. As a result, in the first five years the championship game will be played on Monday, January 12, 2015; Monday, January 11, 2016; Monday, January 9, 2017; Monday, January 8, 2018; and Monday, January 7, 2019.
Eliminate the "automatic qualification" designation.
Still to be decided? Access and revenue distribution, the latter of which will likely be a rather significant tussle if rumors of $500 million per season to be divvied out were to come to fruition.
Also to be decided is the makeup and size of a selection committee. An "agreement in principle" has been reached on a committee, although, as is ofttimes the case in a situation such as this, the devil will be in the details when it comes to signing off on the committee approach.
As it relates to the committee, the release notes that "[a]mong the factors the committee will value are win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and whether a team is a conference champion."
Despite some questions that still linger, particularly as it relates to the size of the field, the sport feels like it's gotten things just right on its first attempt.
"A four-team playoff doesn't go too far; it goes just the right amount," Virginia Tech president and committee member Charles Sterger said. "We are very pleased with this arrangement, even though some issues ... remain to be finalized."
While a name for the new playoff is one of those that has yet to be decided on, the group as a whole fall right in line with Sterger — this is a red-letter day for the game and a significant step forward for the sport.
"We are very pleased with this new arrangement," the presidents said in the release. "College football's championship game is America's second most watched sporting event and we're proud to build on our successes as we grow the sport and hear the voices of everyone who loves college football."
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 26, 2012, 11:32:36 PM
Not branded as a bowl game? Lame.
If I ask nicely, will you stay the FUCK out of this thread? It just has no need for inanities like Neil's and yours.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 26, 2012, 11:15:29 PM
27ft 4in. Impressive. :punk:
Yeah it was like his first jump to.
'Here I am...and well see y'all in London' :punk:
This is rather embarrassing for A&M fans (if they can be embarrassed):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_Yn9JkOzCo
Note that this is an official A&M production.
The spoof is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LenfTCVGnvg
Quote from: grumbler on July 04, 2012, 08:34:05 AM
This is rather embarrassing for A&M fans (if they can be embarrassed):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_Yn9JkOzCo
Note that this is an official A&M production.
The official video is a classic "little brother" move. I liked Deadspin's take on it:
QuoteFirst day of school's coming up, isn't it? You've picked out that new JanSport, some Keds, and a nice binder. You just want to fit in. We all do.
August 27 is the first day of fall classes at Texas A&M. The Aggies join the mean, swaggering SEC after years in the Big 12. They wanted this, yes, but they're not sure if their new compatriots will like them.They were eager.
Now, not so much. The A&M students in the video all act as though someone's pointing a 12-gauge at them from behind the camera. Each student is more upset about his task than the last. The girl who's forced to say "Go, Cocks!" oozes regretful resignation usually seen only in cheap web pornography. But I suppose this video too fits that category. And then there's the president, who, I'm pretty sure, says he's president of "Tex and M university." They're already scared, Pawwwwl.
Quote from: grumbler on July 04, 2012, 08:34:05 AM
This is rather embarrassing for A&M fans (if they can be embarrassed):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_Yn9JkOzCo
Note that this is an official A&M production.
The spoof is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LenfTCVGnvg
Is the official one, like, for real, or are they trying to be ironic or something?
They do appear to be making a half-hearted effort at taking the title of most embarrassing alma mater from Penn St.
Texum University! WOOP!
Quote from: Berkut on July 06, 2012, 01:26:34 AM
Is the official one, like, for real, or are they trying to be ironic or something?
They've taken the official one off their web site. :lol:
It is hard to believe that nobody with an ounce of sense looked at that before putting it up. If someone had, they'd have been able to say "this is truly awful and embarrassing; let's burn it now."
A&M desperately wants to be loved and respected by everybody. At first they beg for attention and then lash out in rage when you fail to admit they are the best at everything all the time. It gets really tiresome they will even insist stupid things like their ROTC program is better than West Point.
I actually have alot of respect for some of their programs and departments but you can never tell the Aggies that enough. They need constant affirmation for some reason.
Obviously this does not apply on an individual student level but the administration and the Aggie elite alumni really exemplify this attitude to a frightening degree. They will never stop begging the SEC to include them as one of the cool kids and wanting to be included everytime Alabama wins something....at least for awhile then they will hate everybody in the SEC. The disdain Aggies elites held for Baylor, Tech, and all the other Big 12 schools (especially Texas but at least we are their hated rivals) was really something.
My favorite were how Aggie administrators and powerful alumni would ruthlessly blast Tech as being a bunch of toothless yokel hicks...nevermind A&M is in a small town in East Texas.
Quote from: Berkut on July 06, 2012, 01:26:34 AM
Is the official one, like, for real, or are they trying to be ironic or something?
A&M doesn't do irony.
Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
A&M doesn't do irony.
That's why they are wrinkly.
So, the number one ranked recruit for 2013, Robert Nkemdiche, has decided to tell the Clemson coaches that they have to offer a HS teammate of his, or he'll look at decommitting:
QuoteRobert Nkemdiche, the nation's No. 1 recruit, is holding his commitment to Clemson hostage unless the Tigers' coaches meet his demand — offer his high school teammate a scholarship.
"I am waiting on Clemson to offer Ryan; when that happens, it's locked ... it's a done deal ... it's over," Nkemdiche, a defensive end, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Ryan Carter is a 5-foot-10, 175-pound safety, who already has scholarship offers from Ole Miss, Georgia State, Tulane, Arkansas State and Southern Miss. According to Nkemdiche, giving Carter a scholarship wouldn't be a big deal because he's already caught the eye of Clemson's coaches.
"Clemson said they like Ryan a lot and that he's at the top of their board. Yes, sir, if Clemson offers Ryan, it would seal the deal. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it. David and Ryan, those guys are like family. They are like brothers to me. I'm close to them. We've had success playing football together and I don't want to change it."
Several of Nkemdiche's Grayson High teammates already have committed to play at Clemson — running back Wayne Gallman, defensive back David Kamara and former Grayson quarterback Nick Schuessler gave up his scholarship at Mississippi State to be a preferred walk-on with the Tigers.
Nkemdiche just wants Carter to be invited to the party.
So what if Clemson doesn't offer Carter? Well, Nkemdiche said he plans to look elsewhere like Ole Miss, where Nkemdiche's brother plays and where Carter already has an offer.
"If Clemson doesn't offer Ryan, it would make me look at Ole Miss a little more, it would," Nkemdiche said. "It's very important that I have my boys with me."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/top-recruit-threatens-look-elsewhere-clemson-doesn-t-184812809--ncaaf.html
I'm somewhat bemused by the number of people who are defending this move on the internet. Andt Staples at SI.com, for instance, argues that
QuoteIt's always hilarious when people criticize athletes for something they would do every day and twice on Sunday in their own lives. No one who has ever used leverage in a negotiation has any right to rip Nkemdiche here. Used another job offer to squeeze a raise out of your employer? Same concept. Used a connection to get a friend hired? Ditto. When you do it, you're being a good capitalist, but when Nkemdiche does it, he's being a spoiled, entitled brat? That's crazy. Nkemdiche is doing exactly what he should do: using the power he has to his advantage before he enters a system in which he'll have little pull. (This also might be a good place to note that, according to figures provided to the U.S. Department of Education, Clemson football generated $31.7 million in revenue during the 2010-11 school year.)
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_staples/07/06/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-scholarship-demand/index.html#ixzz1zz8T6QQh
I can't see this being worth it to the coaches. Once you open that door, you've basically set yourself up for a whole series of threats like this, and the fact that Nkemdiche went public with this is a bad sign about how much of a teammate he will be. Besides, poor Carter now can't get on the team without being known as a pussy who had to have his friend black mail the school into getting him a scholarship. How is he ever going to overcome that label, if Clemson caves and brings him on.
I don't have a problem with recruits telling schools that they will consider them more highly if they offer a friend and team mate (after all, Nkemdiche did this very thing with his friend kamara). But to commit, and then start adding conditions tells me that he isn't going to stop here.
Brady Hoke visited Nkemdiche three times, and never offered. I can now see why, and am glad Michigan isn't so desperate as to offer this kind of player. And, anyway, how often have we seen these "can't miss prospects" fizzle (Big Will Campbell, I'm looking at you!)? It just isn't worth it.
It's one thing to be an All Pro in the last year of your contract and playing hard ball with the front office, but a high school recruit? Oh, hell no.
Even if I had considered Ryan, I'd reject the demand on general principle, especially when Nkemdiche went public. I'm the fucking coach, not you, kid.
And fuck that SI article. Makes me want to invoke Billick: that's why writers write, and coaches coach.
Urban can stop kicking players off the team now, thanks.
Storm Klein (Cool Jew name bro) kicked off for domestic abuse.
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E: Oh. Seedy, don't know if you had seen this yet:
QuoteReport: EA Sports to give up exclusive rights to NCAA football games
The tradition of picking up your copy of EA Sports NCAA Football every summer could be changing in the future.
According to a report from Gamespot.com, EA Sports has agreed to give up its exclusive rights to college football video games for five years.
According to attorneys representing consumers in a class-action antitrust lawsuit over EA's exclusive hold of multiple football league licenses, the publisher has agreed to a proposed settlement that would commit it to going at least five years without NCAA Football exclusivity, as well as paying out a potential $27 million to wronged customers.
Under the terms of the settlement, EA will let its current agreement with the NCAA lapse in 2014, and will not renew it for at least five years.
As far as paying out money to "wronged customers," if you bought a copy of NCAA Football to play on your Gamecube, Playstation 2 or XBox, you may be entitled to $6.79 per game you purchased. For current generation platforms like the Playstation 3, consumers could be entitled to $1.95 per game.
So if you've kept your old copies of the games just lying around the house collecting dust, they might have more value than just being used as coasters.
As for what this news means for the future of college football video games, it may make the experience better. Competition between companies will lead to a better product overall as each company will be competing for their stake in the same market share.
So some of those glitches that have long plagued the NCAA Football franchise might actually be addressed.
This change could also lessen the impact buying these games has on your wallet. A copy of NCAA Football 13 on Playstation 3 or XBox currently costs $60. If another company starts manufacturing a college football game it may do so at a reduced price as a method to increase sales. Which is a move EA Sports might have to respond to with its own price decrease.
In other words, whether or not you ever decide to play a college football franchise other than EA Sports', this decision will likely only mean good things for you.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19640148/report-ea-sports-to-give-up-exclusivity-of-ncaa-football-games
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 23, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
E: Oh. Seedy, don't know if you had seen this yet:
Surprising, I didn't think they'd settle so fast. All the previous press out there made it seem like EA was going to dig in for the final battle. But, that's how pre-settlement propaganda works.
Meh, whatever punches EA takes to the face is good for everybody.
And I just love the Michigan gloves.
:mellow:
Quote
Remember a few years ago when USC got a commitment from 14-year-old David Sills? (http://rivals.yahoo.com/usc/football/recruiting/player-David-Sills-107935)
Sounds like UW may have its own budding QB prodigy in the fold. A PR firm representing QB coach Steve Clarkson --- who coaches Sills and also counts Nick Montana and Matt Barkley among numerous students and has known UW coach Steve Sarkisian for two decades or so dating to when Sarkisian was one of Clarkson's first pupils--- just sent an e-mail saying UW has gotten a commitment from Tate Martell, a 14-year-old San Diego QB who is entering the eighth grade this fall.
You've got to be kidding me. :lol:
Not even in High School yet. We'll have scouts at the Pop Warner fields soon.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 26, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
You've got to be kidding me. :lol:
Not even in High School yet. We'll have scouts at the Pop Warner fields soon.
"Commitments" before offers are even extended aren't meaningful. Hell, they are barely meaningful
after offers are made!
Some interesting views of conferences from what passes for Spencer Hall's brain on SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/7/30/3200883/college-football-conferences-2012
You need to read the analysis before you start to complain.
Big Ten
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SEC:
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Pac 12
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Poor Berkut. At least his team is rated as almost fun, even if it's not rated anywhere close to good.
Any normal person would rather watch Arizona State over Arizona anyways.
And Silas Redd leaves Pedo State for USC. Methinks there went the best chance to hold the line this year.
Was expected, some RS Frosh left for NC State yesterday, now to see how many more leave.
I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP
I KNOW, WHY I WAS CATCHING YOU UP!
STOP YELLING AT ME
OK
The Big Ten coaches have an unofficial agreement not to poach Penn State players, but 2013 recruits are fair game. This could be a godsend for Meyer, as his line recruiting has gone very poorly so far, and there are few good candidates left out there. PSU has three solid candidates, including one blue-chipper, and, given the guy Ohio just got, are desperately needed. Michigan, USC, Alabama, and Notre Dame are all full at offensive line, so Meyer would seem now to be competing with lesser lights. I'll be interested to see what he does, given that his style of line play is so different from PSU's.
Quote from: grumbler on July 31, 2012, 05:55:35 PM
The Big Ten coaches have an unofficial agreement not to poach Penn State players, but 2013 recruits are fair game.
Not every coach in the Big Ten seems to have agreed with this. I know of at least one PSU player (Ryan Nowicki) who has made an official visit to/with coaches from a Big Ten school (Illinois), and there was some message board/twitter blabbering about an RB named Akeel Lynch visiting Iowa in the last couple days, although I don't know if that's actually true or not.
E: Speaking of Iowa and RBs, they lost another one the other day.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 31, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
Not every coach in the Big Ten seems to have agreed with this. I know of at least one PSU player (Ryan Nowicki) who has made an official visit to a Big Ten school (Illinois), and there was some message board/twitter blabbering about an RB named Akeel Lynch visiting Iowa in the last couple days, although I don't know if that's actually true or not.
Illinois didn't request the visit, so this wouldn't be "poaching." Some coaches (like Hoke) have already said they won't take anyone but recruits (despite Michigan's real need for defensive tackles), but other schools can't be so choosy.
QuoteE: Speaking of Iowa and RBs, they lost another one the other day.
Yeah, I saw that. Five so far this offseason. AIRBHG is hungry this year.
Quote from: grumbler on July 31, 2012, 06:38:33 PM
Illinois didn't request the visit, so this wouldn't be "poaching." Some coaches (like Hoke) have already said they won't take anyone but recruits (despite Michigan's real need for defensive tackles), but other schools can't be so choosy.
You wouldn't consider that whole thing where the Illini coaches were just sort of hanging out in State College waiting for PSU players to come talk to them to be poaching either then?
:lol: I think they were the ones who were falsely accused of waiting in the parking lots outside the dorms where some PSU players were living.
QuoteYeah, I saw that. Five so far this offseason. AIRBHG is hungry this year.
The AIRBHG list is just crazy.
The thing I was reading about Johnson was saying they have a walk-on junior and two true freshmen who will be/are competing for the starting spot.
A random "one of my favorite pictures" from 2010 (the afternoon the Spartoons came to town):
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Nowicki is also looking at Washington too apparently.
Montee Ball, who seems like a possible non-douche, was attacked by five dudes and has a concussion.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19702432/montee-ball-attacked-on-wisconsin-campus
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
Montee Ball, who seems like a possible non-douche, was attacked by five dudes and has a concussion.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19702432/montee-ball-attacked-on-wisconsin-campus
Staee's defensive line took a road trip.
QuoteThe Penn State transfer floodgates are officially open.
After running back Silas Redd announced his decision to leave the Nittany Lions for potential national champion USC, several other players have followed him out the door and others have one foot out.
Linebacker Khairi Fortt, who said he would wait until the weekend before making his future playing decision, announced he was leaving State College for Cal. Fortt, a junior, had 33 tackles, six for loss and 2.5 sacks last year and was a co-starter on the Penn State depth chart.
Defensive tackle Jamil Pollard, who was one of the gems of the 2012 recruiting class, has decided to go to Rutgers.
Prior to Redd's announcement, reserve redshirt freshman safety Tim Buckley bolted for N.C. State and backup quarterback Rob Bolden was released from his scholarship. Bolden officially enrolled at LSU, making him the second player to join a team with national championship potential.
And all the movement has caused another key player to take stock of his football future. Receiver Justin Brown told Rivals.com site SoonerScoop.com that he's received interest from Oklahoma
Texas needs a kicker and PSU's kicker is a Texan and he visited this weekend so that might be happening as well.
Just saw that Frontier Communications reached an agreement to carry the Pac-12 Network :yeah: Not sure yet if I will have to pay more but am very happy the option is there.
Quote from: sbr on August 01, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
Just saw that Frontier Communications reached an agreement to carry the Pac-12 Network :yeah: Not sure yet if I will have to pay more but am very happy the option is there.
Yeah i'm trying to figure out if my local cable company is gonna be adding the channel.
Penn State kicker Anthony Fera will be transferring to Texas.
The 6 most beautiful words in the English language at this very moment: Four weeks from tonight, it begins...
QuoteLooks like Joe Paterno's family members aren't the only ones who think the NCAA wronged Penn State.
ESPN.com is reporting that at least two Penn State Board of Trustees members intend to file an appeal with the NCAA on Monday stating that the governing body did not give Penn State due process when it decided on its unprecedented sanctions.
NCAA president Mark Emmert announced harsh sanctions against Penn State without going through the process of a hearing with the NCAA Committee on Infractions. Penn State was hit with a loss of scholarships, a four-year postseason ban, a $60 million fine and probation. The university also had to vacate wins from 1998 through 2011.
Penn State University president Rodney Erickson agreed to the sanctions, but the trustees are questioning whether he had the legal authority to do so. Erickson did not bring the entire board together for a vote and instead consulted with Board of Trustees chairwoman Karen Peetz and university counsel before accepting the punishment.
Like the Paterno family, who announced its request for an NCAA appeal hearing last Friday, the trustees are hoping to have their day in court with the NCAA Committee on Infractions and be able to state their case as to why the sanctions should either be overturned or lessened. However, the two board members do not expect the NCAA to except the appeal, which will give them — and the Paterno family — grounds to file a federal lawsuit to have the sanctions rescinded by a federal judge.
I thought the NCAA bylaws actually gave the head of the NCAA the authority to impose sanctions without use of the committee on infractions? The way I'd see it the bylaws which all member institutions agree to accept to be part of NCAA athletics would be akin to a signed and agreed upon contract with plain wording, I seriously question the ability to successfully challenge them.
Additionally, if PSU got its day in court and forced the NCAA to go to the infractions committee there would be nothing preventing that committee from leveling a far worse penalty on PSU, and I suspect they in fact would.
I also question standing, two members of the Board of Trustees probably lack standing without a concurrence of at lest a majority of the full board (I think it has what, 5 members?)
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 06, 2012, 06:01:24 PM
Additionally, if PSU got its day in court and forced the NCAA to go to the infractions committee there would be nothing preventing that committee from leveling a far worse penalty on PSU, and I suspect they in fact would.
Considering the NCAA already said "the other option was a 4-year death penalty," oh hell yeah.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 06, 2012, 06:01:24 PM
I thought the NCAA bylaws actually gave the head of the NCAA the authority to impose sanctions without use of the committee on infractions?
Yes. Penn State applied for the "expedited resolution" (something like that) process rather than go through another investigation on the heels of the Freeh one.
QuoteAdditionally, if PSU got its day in court and forced the NCAA to go to the infractions committee there would be nothing preventing that committee from leveling a far worse penalty on PSU, and I suspect they in fact would.
Given that all the members of the infractions committee were members of the faction that wanted the four year death penalty, I suspect you are right.
QuoteI also question standing, two members of the Board of Trustees probably lack standing without a concurrence of at lest a majority of the full board (I think it has what, 5 members?)
The Board is much larger than that. 32 members.
And the way I read it, the Paterno family has no standing to sue the NCAA, since JoPa many months died before he could be served notice of his infractions, and he therefor isn't a "concerned person" as far as the NCAA's ruling is concerned.
But don't we have a thread for this?
i forgot and just went to this one, so sue me for infringing on your right to due process.
Quote from: katmai on August 06, 2012, 07:43:01 PM
i forgot and just went to this one, so sue me for infringing on your right to due process.
I demand an appeal! :mad:
Quote from: grumbler on July 30, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
Poor Berkut. At least his team is rated as almost fun, even if it's not rated anywhere close to good.
Almost fun, and not very good. Sounds disturbingly accurate... :(
Lol, morons.
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If Penn State thinks they are a poor innocent institution in this then perhaps they got off easily.
Anyway the only innocents are the current players and recruits and the NCAA has taken pretty good care of them actually. I was glad to see that...and not only because Texas got their awesome placekicker.
Quote from: Valmy on August 10, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
If Penn State thinks they are a poor innocent institution in this then perhaps they got off easily.
Anyway the only innocents are the current players and recruits and the NCAA has taken pretty good care of them actually. I was glad to see that...and not only because Texas got their awesome placekicker.
A lot of their past players who played on teams that won games that the NCAA now pretends that they didn't win might disagree. Though I would agree that those guys aren't being harmed in any meaningful way.
Those aren't official shirts. They are being sold in a non school bookstore.
Timmay, blowing shit out of proportion since 2003.
Les Nessman tossed the Honey Badger off of LSU.
Wow
Rumored to be 3rd failed drug text which would mean he can't transfer to lower division to play.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 10, 2012, 12:59:20 PM
Les Nessman tossed the Honey Badger off of LSU.
Guess it's back to eating garbage? :hmm:
Only for a while, he will still be a millionaire in 2 years.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 10, 2012, 12:59:20 PM
Les Nessman tossed the Honey Badger off of LSU.
So typical. So sad.
Transferring to McNeese State, apparently.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 10, 2012, 10:36:38 PM
Transferring to McNeese State, apparently.
Could wind up being the best thing for him. Sometimes a drop down to the minors will do that for a player, maturity-wise. Plenty have had to do it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 10, 2012, 10:46:12 PM
Could wind up being the best thing for him. Sometimes a drop down to the minors will do that for a player, maturity-wise. Plenty have had to do it.
Yeah, maybe it will. He could ruin some SLC QBs this upcoming season. Or he could get lazy and keep smoking pot (or whatever it was that got him tossed) and become a talented burnout that doesn't do shit.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19789625
QuoteAt last, San Diego State may be shirking the punt
For years, Sabermetrics types and other stat nerds have held one truth to be self-evident: Pretty much all football teams are punting way, way too much. The empirical evidence is on their side; occasionally, so are the actual results on the field in high-profile situations. Economists have been running the numbers for decades, and they all say stop being a bunch of shrinking, punting violets and go for it.
Finally, a major college coach may actually be listening to reason... at least, to an extent, anyway. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, San Diego State coach Rocky Long has been doing a little reading on the subject, and is mulling the idea of dramatically scaling back the Aztec punting game this fall:
After reading articles about an idiosyncratic Arkansas high school coach who never punts, always onside kicks, and has tremendous success doing it, Long is toying with the idea for his Aztecs of no punts or field goal attempts once they've driven inside an opponent's 50-yard line.
[...]
"It's a day-to-day theory," Long said with a grin late on Friday night. "I haven't decided because we're getting a feel for it out here. I just read about this guy, and I don't know if I can do that because everybody in the world is going to say this is not Football 101, right?
"But there's a reason why he's winning those games. Maybe he just has better players than everybody else; or maybe it's their team gets used to playing like that and the other teams don't get used to playing like that. It's fourth-and-seven — most defenses run off the field. And now they're going to stay out there. 'What? How come the punt team isn't coming out?'"
The "idiosyncratic Arkansas high school coach" in question is Kevin Kelley, head coach of Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, who started getting national attention a few years back for his data-driven refusal to punt on fourth down – any fourth down, anywhere on the field – and his insistence on following every Pulaski touchdown with an onside kick. And there have been a lot of Pulaski touchdowns: Over the last nine years, the Bruins are 104-19 with three state championships, including an undefeated run to the 4A title in 2011 in which they averaged 51 points per game and punted once. Altogether, Kelley's teams have punted three times in the past five seasons.
"I don't believe in punting and really can't ever see doing it again," he told Sports Illustratedin 2009. "It's like someone said, '[Punting] is what you do on fourth down,' and everyone did it without asking why."
Here's one reason why: For college and pro coaches making seven-figure salaries and facing significantly more pressure than Pulaski Academy, punting almost always carries less risk, if not necessarily on the field, then at least in the equally important realm of job security. The average fan or reporter can't recognize a decision to, say, call for a two-deep coverage that winds up yielding the game-winning touchdown pass for the other side; blame for that could fall on the player, or on some inexcusable call by the officials that preceded it, or on the basic recognition that the other side called "Paper" to your "Rock." You know, it happens. But they certainly can single out a decision to go for it on fourth down in a situation when every available precedent says to punt, and if given the opportunity, they will. There is no more direct route to the hot seat than watching an attempt to buck conventional wisdom blow up in your face.
Exhibit A: One Bill Belichick, owner of three Super Bowl rings as head coach of the New England Patriots, who came in for a tsunami of scorn in November 2009 when, with the Pats leading the Indianapolis Colts by six points with 2:08 remaining in the fourth quarter, he decided to eschew the presumptive punt and try for a clinching first down instead on 4th-and-2 from his own 28-yard line. The attempt failed, the Colts proceeded to score the winning touchdown and Belichick was roundly mocked for "outsmarting himself" in a critical situation.
The nerds were quick to the coach's defense, pointing out that – statistically speaking – Belichick's decision to go for it in that situation carried a significantly higher probability of victory for the Patriots than punting. (And that's before you account for the more intuitive fact that Belichick was putting the ball in the hands of a future Hall-of-Fame quarterback on his side, Tom Brady, with the goal of keeping it out of the hands of another future Hall-of-Fame quarterback, Peyton Manning, on the other.) Critics simply pointed to the scoreboard, and coaches everywhere had one more reason to retreat into their shells.
But the trend on all levels over the last decade is toward a faster, more wide-open game that results in more possessions, more plays and more points than anyone could have imagined a century ago, when the punt was permanently ingrained into the lizard brain underlying all strategic thinking. In games that resembled trench warfare and routinely finished with final scores in the neighborhood of 7-6, the punt was an essential tactic for flipping field position. Simply possessing the ball had much less value relative to the amount of territory offenses had to cover. Many coaches won many games for many years on a fundamental belief in defense and punting.
Today, offensively oriented rule changes and sophisticated passing attacks are in the process of rendering that equation obsolete. Obviously, most coaches don't have the luxury of leaning on future Hall-of-Famers in the clutch. But unless their roster happens to boast a defense full of blue-chip draft picks-in-waiting, and unless they happen to be Nick Saban, value lies increasingly with maximizing the number of opportunities for the offense. For up-tempo spread teams, the kind that occasionally refer to their philosophy as "Basketball on Grass," punting may soon be viewed as the equivalent of letting the shot clock run out. The risk associated with voluntarily ceding a scoring opportunity is always going up, regardless of where you're giving the ball up or where the other team is receiving it.
Frankly, at 62 years old, Rocky Long is an unlikely candidate for leading a strategic revolution. San Diego State went for it on fourth down 23 times last year, slightly above the national average, compared to 61 punts; if the Aztecs bring the ratio below 2-to-1 this year, they'll rank among the most aggressive outfits in the country. (The most aggressive offense in 2011 belonged to Army, which went for it on fourth down 34 times against just 37 punts. Navy was a close second with 30 fourth-down tries and 36 punts.) Eventually, though, some desperate coach somewhere is going to take the plunge, instruct his offensive coordinator and players to always prepare for four downs, not three, and declare punting an extreme act of cowardice and last resort. When he does, an awful lot of his colleagues are going to be interested in the results.
Tags: Army Black Knights, Navy Midshipmen, San Diego State Aztecs, NCAAF
Only surprising thing to me is that Oregon wasn't mentioned, they go for it a lot more than anyone I have seen. I don't see much Army or Navy football.
I can see it statistically when you're inside, say five yards of the marker. But if you're backed out of position with something like a 4th and 20, the odds have to be against you there. I can see an "always go for it in short yardage situations" strategy maybe.
4th and 30 from the 2 yard line. OMG Stat nerds say we should go fer it!
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 14, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
I can see it statistically when you're inside, say five yards of the marker. But if you're backed out of position with something like a 4th and 20, the odds have to be against you there. I can see an "always go for it in short yardage situations" strategy maybe.
Maybe not when you're at your own 2 yard line. But I can see how if you're at midfield it might make more sense to go for it on 4th down, even if it is 4th and 10.
Notice I said might - I haven't run the numbers myself. But those midfield punts almost always seem to end up with the other team back in the same position within a few plays. Plus there's always the small chance of a punt return coming back for a touchdown.
I was watching Sports Center, and got a major Urban Meyer boner.
I wish the damn season would hurry up and start. Dammit.
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ND sucks. Timmay Taint doesn't wash off.
Oh god the helmets...
Dear Lord.
Idaho going indy in football, Big Sky for everything else. The WAC might be done as a conference period, instead of just as a football conference.
Oh, speaking of new uniforms....for PDH:
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CYO would be more appropriate to the talent level. :P
Watching a replay of the 2009 Oregon Arizona football game on pac-12 network. This was a great game, double ot iirc.
Quote from: sbr on August 16, 2012, 11:43:45 PM
Watching a replay of the 2009 Oregon Arizona football game on pac-12 network. This was a great game, double ot iirc.
Doesn't seem to be on DirecTV yet, and I can't watch it online unless I have Cox, TWC (not happening
ever), or Brighthouse. Annoying.
Quote from: sbr on August 16, 2012, 11:43:45 PM
Watching a replay of the 2009 Oregon Arizona football game on pac-12 network. This was a great game, double ot iirc.
Was that the one that the students rushed the field when it looked like Arizona had won, and then they scored to push it into OT?
That was an amazing game, right up until the part where the good guys lost and the Nike-U won.
Dead God - ND has absolutely iconic helmets. Why fuck with those?
Yes Berk I think that was the one, though I didn't watch the whole thing last night.
Quote from: Barrister on August 17, 2012, 12:56:08 PM
Dead God - ND has absolutely iconic helmets. Why fuck with those?
ND fucks with their helmet all the time. Sometimes it has a shamrock of one color or another, sometimes not. Sometimes it has a flag on it, sometimes not. It's just a gold helmet, like lots of teams wear. Not iconic at all.
An iconic football helmet looks like this:
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Anyone looking at an actually iconic helmet knows exactly which team it is from.
The new one certainly looks awful, I'll give you that.
Quote from: grumbler on August 17, 2012, 05:46:13 PM
Anyone looking at an actually iconic helmet knows exactly which team it is from.
Anyone looking at a helmet with a leprechaun putting up his dukes is gonna know it's from Notre Dame, "iconic" or not. :contract:
When did the Blue hens go dark ?
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
When did the Blue hens go dark ?
I don't know, when did the Blue Hens go dark?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 17, 2012, 05:57:56 PM
Anyone looking at a helmet with a leprechaun putting up his dukes is gonna know it's from Notre Dame, "iconic" or not. :contract:
But there are lots of "Notre dames" and lots of "Fighting Irish." I agree that this helmet could become iconic if they stick with it, but right now it is just the logo that is iconic, not the helmet.
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
When did the Blue hens go dark ?
They were dark to start with (in fact, they used surplus Michigan gear for a long time). They went to the lighter color in 2004.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 16, 2012, 09:59:17 PM
Oh, speaking of new uniforms....for PDH:
I saw that pic about a month ago. You wouldn't think Wyoming could screw up Brown and Gold any more, but they try...
Minnesota wins a seventh football national championship!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19816964/minnesota-claims-1904-national-title (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19816964/minnesota-claims-1904-national-title)
Quote from: grumbler on August 17, 2012, 05:46:13 PM
ND fucks with their helmet all the time. Sometimes it has a shamrock of one color or another, sometimes not. Sometimes it has a flag on it, sometimes not. It's just a gold helmet, like lots of teams wear. Not iconic at all.
An iconic football helmet looks like this:
Anyone looking at an actually iconic helmet knows exactly which team it is from.
grumbler is such an iconoclast.
He's more of an iconodule.
Quote from: PDH on August 18, 2012, 07:43:13 AM
He's more of an iconodule.
I have a degree in iconomics.
Here ya go, all you godless papacy haters...and with a Penn State analogy, to boot!
QuoteDemoting Notre Dame
By Rick Reilly | ESPN.com
I once loved Notre Dame football.
My dad went to Notre Dame and flunked out and I still loved Notre Dame football. I loved Lindsey Nelson telling me "neither team advanced the ball so we move to further action in the fourth quarter" while my mom was yelling, "Get ready for mass!"
But I grew up.
I don't love Notre Dame football anymore. Notre Dame football has been living a lie, as Lou Holtz likes to say. Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, nothing happened. The echoes are in REM sleep. It has failed to advance the ball.
If I told you about a team that had lost 10 of its last 12 bowl games, had dropped nine of its last 10 to USC, had led the nation only in disappointment, you'd figure that team would be halfway down the Mountain West standings. But Notre Dame still gets perks and love from the NCAA and BCS as though the year is 1946.
I'm declaring an end to all that.
In Europe, if you play too much bad soccer for too many years, you get "relegated" to a lower division, moved down, demoted. It just happened to the Blackburn Rovers.
It needs to happen to Notre Dame football.
If Notre Dame isn't a factor this season -- and it hasn't been a factor in almost 20 years -- it's time to take it down a literal peg.
We can't demote Notre Dame from its conference -- since it is far too noble to belong to any piddling conference -- but we can demote it in stature.
From now on:
• Notre Dame no longer gets its own television deal with NBC.
• Notre Dame no longer gets to be the only school in the country with an inexplicable seat at the BCS decisions-making table.
• Notre Dame no longer gets its yearly undeserved hellahype in preseason rankings and preseason All-America teams.
In short, until Notre Dame football starts winning again, it's Rice to me.
That hurts your feelings? Watch "Rudy" 'til you feel better. :lol:
Can you explain to me how a team that hasn't won a national championship since 1988, a Heisman since 1987, or more than eight games its last five seasons still gets treated like the 1967 Green Bay Packers?
Notre Dame has won 86 games since the turn of this century. Oregon has won 111 games since then. TCU has won 119. Boise State has won 136. Do they have their own TV deals? Do they get to be the only school that sits with the BCS conference commissioners, deciding how a playoff is going to work?
Somebody needs to stick a pin in the still-inflated Golden Dome. Look, the ACC wants Notre Dame. Would die to have it. But word is, Notre Dame won't go if it has to share TV and gate revenue with the rest of the conference, like everybody else. The Irish people love to share. The Irish athletic department? Not so much.
If college football won't put its foot down and force Notre Dame to join a conference -- as every other sport at Notre Dame has -- then the least it can do is stop paying it a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun.
I hear what the Domers are saying. They're saying, "Notre Dame doesn't have to be in a conference. Notre Dame is unlike any other football power. Notre Dame is a national brand."
Sure, and girls are still wearing leg warmers.
Notre Dame is not a national brand any more than USC, Alabama or Stanford. A national brand? What would its slogan be, "Dominating Navy just about every year"? What kind of national brand loses to freaking Tulsa (2010)?
Please, NCAA and BCS, stop leaping to attention every time caller ID says it's Notre Dame. The Irish haven't finished in the top 20 in any poll in five years. They can leave a message.
When did I quit on Notre Dame? When it quit on itself.
Last season, against USC, the Irish were trailing by only two touchdowns, 31-17, with about seven minutes left when USC got the ball. But Notre Dame didn't use any of its timeouts, and it had a hatful of them. It let USC waste as much time as it wanted and never got the ball back. Good job. Good effort.
"They did give up," USC quarterback Matt Barkley told ESPN 710 radio in L.A. "I wouldn't have wanted to be on that sideline."
You are not royalty anymore, Notre Dame. Turn in your tiara.
When your NBC contract expires in 2015, do the right thing and don't renew. Lower some expectations until you can turn this thing around. And you're a Mars Rover trip from turning it around.
Wait, what? Coach Brian Kelly is the savior? Really? Because he looks to me like he's doing a very good impression of Bob Davie so far. He's opened with back-to-back 8-5 seasons. Wow. Give him a sitting ovation.
And with Kelly throwing the QB job up for grabs again, instead of just handing it to Tommy Rees once his one-game suspension is up, this season looks like 7-5 to me, with Ls to Michigan State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh and you don't even want to know what USC will do to the Irish in the Coliseum. Cue the DentDoctor.com Bowl.
Somebody needs to make Notre Dame play by the same rules as everybody else. If there's anything we've learned from the Penn State mess, it's that nobody gets to live on a pedestal anymore.
You flunked, Notre Dame. Go back a grade.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2012, 09:35:16 AM
Here ya go, all you godless papacy haters...and with a Penn State analogy, to boot!
(snip)
The NBC contract is nobody's business, and neither is conference membership. Robbing the deserving to pay ND $1.3 million for failing to reach a bowl and allowing ND a voice at the BCS table are legit complaints, though. Navy (also an independent) has been as good as ND lately, and it gets neither of those.
I just find it funny that ND has allowed their NBC contract to be such a millstone. Minnesota and Indiana get more TV money than ND does, and ND could get Minnesota-level money anytime it wants, but it prefers the ego satisfaction of having its own TV contract to having the money. That's certainly ND's right, but it is funny to watch it exercise it and pretend that its emperor has clothes.
Notre Dame's commitment to higher academic standards since the days of Holtz is commendable for the institution, but it does hurt their ability to recruit against the football factories.
The only thing I see that would attempt to mitigate that is to join a conference. I want to see them in the Big Ten. They'd be perfect there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2012, 10:33:00 AM
Notre Dame's commitment to higher academic standards since the days of Holtz is commendable for the institution, but it does hurt their ability to recruit against the football factories.
The only thing I see that would attempt to mitigate that is to join a conference. I want to see them in the Big Ten. They'd be perfect there.
Notre Dame doesn't have academic standards for football players more strict than the usual. They do, however, have a more difficult time graduating the less-brilliant players, like any good school does (and, given the new NCAA requirements for graduation rates, they have to be more academically selective than, say, an Alabama or Oklahoma). Joining the Big Ten wouldn't alleviate their academic issues, but it would put them in company with a bunch of other schools in the same boat.
Quote from: grumbler on August 19, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Joining the Big Ten wouldn't alleviate their academic issues, but it would put them in company with a bunch of other schools in the same boat.
I just think the competition in a Big Ten schedule would improve their ability to recruit within such a conference, despite their current "But you'll be on NBC every week against Wake Forest!" hook.
But their schedule this year is horrific enough as it is.
True, there is no way they can possibly compete with those lofty standards. Much like Stanford, they have no chance to play at a high level.
Or Duke. Or Michigan.
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I can't remember if this is the sixth or seventh Iowa RB that AIRBHG has taken out this offseason. Iowa has 2 running backs on scholarship and two walk-ons left.
Quote from: grumbler on August 19, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
I can't remember if this is the sixth or seventh Iowa RB that AIRBHG has taken out this offseason. Iowa has 2 running backs on scholarship and two walk-ons left.
They can do like Georgia does and sub in corners.
Quote from: grumbler on August 19, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
I can't remember if this is the sixth or seventh Iowa RB that AIRBHG has taken out this offseason. Iowa has 2 running backs on scholarship and two walk-ons left.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/football/44730-airbhg-complete-saga.html
He keeps it up to date.
It is time for Ed 'The greek' Anger's Ohio State predictions!
Don't expect rock solid analysis. Or proper formatting. Or bet on these predictions.
Sat. Sept. 1 MIAMI, Ohio Opening game. Win, but not by a whole lot. I expect a typical Ohio State week 1
Sat. Sept. 8 CENTRAL FLORIDA WHO THE FUCK? Oh, I don't know, win
Sat. Sept. 15 CALIFORNIA Ah, a pac-12 team. Loss this year, and beats Cal next year in Cali
Sat. Sept. 22 UAB Columbus Another WHA FUCK? Win
Sat. Sept. 29 at Michigan State Loss. Charliebear gets fisted by Sav
Sat. Oct. 6 NEBRASKA Win. Revenge game for last year.
Sat. Oct. 13 at Indiana Win. I have no confidence in the Hoosiers. At least they have a nice half filled stadium I can visit
Sat. Oct. 20 PURDUE In Columbus? Win. At Purdue it would be a loss.
Sat. Oct. 27 at Pedo State For the love of god, win. McGlovin gets raped in the showers by an escaping Sanduski
Sat. Nov. 3 ILLINOIS No fucking idea. Oh, win
Sat. Nov. 10 Bye Week
Sat. Nov. 17 at Wisconsin Loss. Thick neck wants revenge
Sat. Nov. 24 MICHIGAN At Columbus against a Michigan team that is looking towards the Rose Bowl? I BETTER SEE A WIN URBAN.
9-3 if I am counting correctly.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2012, 10:33:00 AM
Notre Dame's commitment to higher academic standards since the days of Holtz is commendable for the institution, but it does hurt their ability to recruit against the football factories.
The only thing I see that would attempt to mitigate that is to join a conference. I want to see them in the Big Ten. They'd be perfect there.
If they join the Big 12 they can keep all their special crap. Plus they can join with Oklahoma and Texas and feel superior to the rest of their conference mates.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 19, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
Sat. Nov. 24 MICHIGAN At Columbus against a Michigan team that is looking towards the Rose Bowl? I BETTER SEE A WIN URBAN.
Oh, I think Michigan can get it up for TOSU.
They are reshowing the Game of the Century on the B10 network. I've got a Brutus Boner.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 19, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
They are reshowing the Game of the Century on the B10 network. I've got a Brutus Boner.
I am glad watching Texas beat USC pleases you so much -_-
Quote from: Valmy on August 19, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 19, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
They are reshowing the Game of the Century on the B10 network. I've got a Brutus Boner.
I am glad watching Texas beat USC pleases you so much -_-
Redskins suck.
Vince young sucks.
He is in that wonderful time of all Redskins fans, that best time of the year. The time before the season starts and the curse of Dan Snyder takes over making the regular season into a horrible time.
Quote from: PDH on August 19, 2012, 08:51:19 PM
He is in that wonderful time of all Redskins fans, that best time of the year. The time before the season starts and the curse of Dan Snyder takes over making the regular season into a horrible time.
Indeed. In August sometimes you start to think even second place is possible.
I'd agree with Grumbler the Big Ten schools in general have similar academic standards for football players as Notre Dame.
I'll point out to the peanut gallery though that Stanford's are not the same, their academic standards for football are by far the highest in FBS and Notre Dame or any other school really doesn't come close. What also makes it hard for Stanford is their football players are 100% real students, they go to all classes with real students and have to be in a real major. Most of the other major FBS schools have created "specialized degree programs" for football players that basically help them to avoid as much as possible real class work, but at Stanford all the players are actually real students.
I spent 1 minute looking on ESPN and couldn't find it, but ESPN had a good article about 1.5-2 years ago about Stanford's academic requirements compared to the rest of FBS and it was pretty shocking even to me. I figured Stanford was stricter but they really give their football program little leeway. Their new coach basically said that is why they have to recruit nationally, they said players with talent to succeed at their level and the academic criteria aren't plentiful enough even in California so they basically have to recruit heavily all over the country.
Course Stanford has the advantage of being the most prestigious school with a FBS football program so they're a natural first choice for serious scholar-athletes. If other schools tried holding football players to that standard they'd be even less competitive.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 20, 2012, 06:08:29 AM
I'd agree with Grumbler the Big Ten schools in general have similar academic standards for football players as Notre Dame.
I'll point out to the peanut gallery though that Stanford's are not the same, their academic standards for football are by far the highest in FBS and Notre Dame or any other school really doesn't come close. What also makes it hard for Stanford is their football players are 100% real students, they go to all classes with real students and have to be in a real major. Most of the other major FBS schools have created "specialized degree programs" for football players that basically help them to avoid as much as possible real class work, but at Stanford all the players are actually real students.
I spent 1 minute looking on ESPN and couldn't find it, but ESPN had a good article about 1.5-2 years ago about Stanford's academic requirements compared to the rest of FBS and it was pretty shocking even to me. I figured Stanford was stricter but they really give their football program little leeway. Their new coach basically said that is why they have to recruit nationally, they said players with talent to succeed at their level and the academic criteria aren't plentiful enough even in California so they basically have to recruit heavily all over the country.
Stanford does have higher admissions standards, but also does have "jock stream" courses and degree programs, just like everyone else.
Quote from: grumbler on August 20, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 20, 2012, 06:08:29 AM
I'd agree with Grumbler the Big Ten schools in general have similar academic standards for football players as Notre Dame.
I'll point out to the peanut gallery though that Stanford's are not the same, their academic standards for football are by far the highest in FBS and Notre Dame or any other school really doesn't come close. What also makes it hard for Stanford is their football players are 100% real students, they go to all classes with real students and have to be in a real major. Most of the other major FBS schools have created "specialized degree programs" for football players that basically help them to avoid as much as possible real class work, but at Stanford all the players are actually real students.
I spent 1 minute looking on ESPN and couldn't find it, but ESPN had a good article about 1.5-2 years ago about Stanford's academic requirements compared to the rest of FBS and it was pretty shocking even to me. I figured Stanford was stricter but they really give their football program little leeway. Their new coach basically said that is why they have to recruit nationally, they said players with talent to succeed at their level and the academic criteria aren't plentiful enough even in California so they basically have to recruit heavily all over the country.
Stanford does have higher admissions standards, but also does have "jock stream" courses and degree programs, just like everyone else.
Which degrees would you identify as such?
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 20, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
Which degrees would you identify as such?
I'm guessing if you had a team roster listing majors, you'd be able to figure that out pretty quickly. Find the two most common majors & you've got your jock stream majors.
Quote from: derspiess on August 20, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 20, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
Which degrees would you identify as such?
I'm guessing if you had a team roster listing majors, you'd be able to figure that out pretty quickly. Find the two most common majors & you've got your jock stream majors.
Exactly. But you don't even need that; you can just google for the answer. It's been addressed on the 'net several times since Harbaugh claimed it wasn't true.
I always get a kick out of a player being highlighted during a game for having such a high GPA, and then hearing almost in passing that he's a Physical Education major. I'm not knocking that as a major, per se-- we do need gym teachers. But I'd rather hear about a dude with a 2.8 majoring in chemistry than someone with a 3.9 majoring in PE.
Quote from: derspiess on August 20, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
But I'd rather hear about a dude with a 2.8 majoring in chemistry than someone with a 3.9 majoring in PE.
You won't find a lot of the former, because football takes so much time that it is difficult for students to take classes in complex majors during the season. It kinda sucks that, to be competitive, players and teams have to devote so much time to practices and workouts, but there you are.
Quote from: derspiess on August 20, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
I'm not knocking that as a major, per se-- we do need gym teachers. But I'd rather hear about a dude with a 2.8 majoring in chemistry than someone with a 3.9 majoring in PE.
That's a shitload of labs cutting into practice time.
Quote from: grumbler on August 20, 2012, 03:34:11 PMExactly. But you don't even need that; you can just google for the answer. It's been addressed on the 'net several times since Harbaugh claimed it wasn't true.
Ah yes, the famed "I don't actually know the specifics of my assertion but I'm sure google supports me" argument.
Quote from: derspiess on August 20, 2012, 03:39:11 PMI always get a kick out of a player being highlighted during a game for having such a high GPA, and then hearing almost in passing that he's a Physical Education major. I'm not knocking that as a major, per se-- we do need gym teachers. But I'd rather hear about a dude with a 2.8 majoring in chemistry than someone with a 3.9 majoring in PE.
PE isn't even 100% just a joke major though, it kind of depends on the circumstances. In a lot of States and schools a PE teacher is going to take the same education curriculum as any other education major, and then specialize in whatever it is that is required to get certified to teach PE. It's not a hard major, sure. But it isn't quite the same as a program tailor made for big time football students who are literally too stupid to even get through those sort of classes.
The programs I tend to think of are the ones like "Athletic Coaching Education" and things of that nature, which don't even require even the core education classes and don't even result in a course load that will qualify you for a teaching certificate in many states. Additionally, and telling about these programs, is they often have persons associated with the football program as the course instructors.
The Duron Carter update:
After not hacking it at Ohio State, he couldn't hack it at Alabama. He is at Florida Atlantic now. :nelson:
Some of the better players Wyoming has had have gotten degrees in Engineering while playing/practicing. That to me is insane. Still, Wyoming doesn't get the five-star guys they get the guys who know this will be the highest level they make most likely so they better get a degree too.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 20, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
The Duron Carter update:
After not hacking it at Ohio State, he couldn't hack it at Alabama. He is at Florida Atlantic now. :nelson:
And I'm sure he'll be the best Florida Atlanticist he can be.
The wackiest one I saw fairly recently was Craig Krenzel:
QuoteKrenzel graduated from The Ohio State University with a degree in molecular genetics and a GPA of 3.75. He did research as part of a selective oncology laboratory at the Ohio State University Medical Center.[1]
Yeah, one of the starting safeties for Wyoming last year was 3.6 in Civil Engineering, set to graduate early.
Jesus, that just makes my head hurt.
Quote from: PDH on August 20, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Yeah, one of the starting safeties for Wyoming last year was 3.6 in Civil Engineering, set to graduate early.
Jesus, that just makes my head hurt.
Wyoming has an Engineering department? Impressive.
Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: PDH on August 20, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Yeah, one of the starting safeties for Wyoming last year was 3.6 in Civil Engineering, set to graduate early.
Jesus, that just makes my head hurt.
Wyoming has an Engineering department? Impressive.
They need people to construct bridges. Like this one:
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Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 20, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: grumbler on August 20, 2012, 03:34:11 PMExactly. But you don't even need that; you can just google for the answer. It's been addressed on the 'net several times since Harbaugh claimed it wasn't true.
Ah yes, the famed "I don't actually know the specifics of my assertion but I'm sure google supports me" argument.
Pretty much like every argument of yours. You have given no specifics, either, just some "I read several years ago" stuff.
Quote from: PDH on August 20, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Yeah, one of the starting safeties for Wyoming last year was 3.6 in Civil Engineering, set to graduate early.
Jesus, that just makes my head hurt.
The fact that he is a safety boggles my mind. Usually it is the offensive linemen who are the ones getting the better degrees, I think.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 20, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
They need people to construct bridges. Like this one:
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Pfft, the Indians built that.
Hey Incarnate Word (local private Catholic school) is moving up to the Southland Conference! Bigtime football in SA! C-USA and Southland! Woo!
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/08/20/incarnate-word-joining-southland-conference/
StMU is still DII without football though. Welp.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 21, 2012, 08:14:04 PM
Hey Incarnate Word (local private Catholic school) is moving up to the Southland Conference!
I approve. :pope:
$1700 Roll Tide tattoo
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Things people will do for attention. :rolleyes:
It looks like the elephant is bursting out of his back.
$1700? I've bought cars for less.
Just got done watching a special on the '82 Cal-Stanford game from Pac-12 network. The band running onto the field is funny every time, no matter how many times I see it.
The game seemed significantly slower and less violent than today's game, though those 2 teams weren't all that good.
Officiating hasn't gotten much worse, there were some brutal calls in the game.
Despite all the hype, I'm not sold on this Eway kid. I don't think he makes it at the next level.
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 06:10:43 PM
Despite all the hype, I'm not sold on this Eway kid. I don't think he makes it at the next level.
Yeah, he should stick with baseball, where his talents really are.
I'm watching the 30 for 30 on The U (Miami). What the hell is wrong with Bernie Kosar, is he drunk or have some kind of brain damage?
Quote from: sbr on August 27, 2012, 03:38:07 AM
I'm watching the 30 for 30 on The U (Miami). What the hell is wrong with Bernie Kosar, is he drunk or have some kind of brain damage?
You play behind that criminal offensive line Belichick forced on him for a few years, you'd be a little punch drunk too.
Quote from: grumbler on August 21, 2012, 05:41:51 AM
Usually it is the offensive linemen who are the ones getting the better degrees, I think.
They also usually tend to score higher than other positions in the NFL on the Wonderlic test, IIRC.
My kid seems to keep wanting me to buy him Buckeye stuff. I acquiesced yesterday & bought him a t-shirt. I may get him a jersey if I can think of something to use it as an incentive for.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
I'm neutral on Ohio State, but I wouldn't mind if he ended up going there. Plus I respect the tradition, which is why I let him wear that Archie Griffin jersey when he was 2.
I assume he finds Brutus groovy. That mascot tends to suck 'em in early.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
I assume he finds Brutus groovy. That mascot tends to suck 'em in early.
That, plus the fact that I told him early-on that he's a native-born Buckeye and now he thinks that everything "Buckeye" is automatically the best.
Quote from: derspiess on August 28, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Plus I respect the tradition, which is why I let him wear that Archie Griffin jersey when he was 2.
You failed to mention it was Archie's Bengals jersey. :ph34r:
Quote from: derspiess on August 28, 2012, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
I assume he finds Brutus groovy. That mascot tends to suck 'em in early.
That, plus the fact that I told him early-on that he's a native-born Buckeye and now he thinks that everything "Buckeye" is automatically the best.
*takes notes on sports indoctrination*
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 28, 2012, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 28, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Plus I respect the tradition, which is why I let him wear that Archie Griffin jersey when he was 2.
You failed to mention it was Archie's Bengals jersey. :ph34r:
:lol: I've never looked, but I'm guessing that would be a tough throw-back jersey to find anywhere.
Quote from: derspiess on August 28, 2012, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
I assume he finds Brutus groovy. That mascot tends to suck 'em in early.
That, plus the fact that I told him early-on that he's a native-born Buckeye and now he thinks that everything "Buckeye" is automatically the best.
Which it is. :yes:
Make sure you feed him buckeye candy in the fall. RESPECT THE TRADITION.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Being half-Mexican, he's unlikely to become a top prospect though.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 29, 2012, 12:14:47 AM
Being half-Mexican, he's unlikely to become a top prospect though.
Natural tight ends.
Future NCAA player news:
They've decided it would be a good idea to televise my old high schools first game vs. their big rivals. They've got a splash screen, sponsor, facebook page, and all that shit.
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:rolleyes: Lame. They should change the name. It has only been going on for 30 years, so no biggie.
Wing Stop is meh.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 29, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
Wing Stop is meh.
Yeah, I've given them a couple shots because they're close, but it's always just...well, meh.
Hey Valmy, Chip Brown is saying Uverse will be picking up the LHN on Friday. Since he's wrong about everything, it probably means AT&T will be going out of business or something.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 30, 2012, 12:34:40 AM
Hey Valmy, Chip Brown is saying Uverse will be picking up the LHN on Friday. Since he's wrong about everything, it probably means AT&T will be going out of business or something.
:lol:
Yeah well if it happens I will switch over.
Since the season technically kicks off tonight, should we keep this thread, or go for week-specific like the NFL with spreads and commentary?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
Since the season technically kicks off tonight, should we keep this thread, or go for week-specific like the NFL with spreads and commentary?
I think in years past we just had one gigantic thread. Though I do appreciate the witting thread titles on the NFL ones.
Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2012, 08:41:24 AM
Though I do appreciate the witting thread titles on the NFL ones.
That's what I hate about this board; at least the old one years ago allowed a thread title along with a sub-title byline, allowing for more Onionesque headlines. I miss that.
#2 'Bama vs #8 Michigan. GO BLUE *choke*
Michigan is going to be destroyed. I have no interest in watching the Saban lovefest.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 30, 2012, 09:16:35 AM
#2 'Bama vs #8 Michigan. GO BLUE *choke*
Roll Tide :pinch:
Also:
http://poonsec.blogspot.com/ (NSFW)
Stay classy Buckeye...
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:D
I've seen worse.
I suspect a lot of fans of THE Ohio State University would actually rather shower at Penn State than root for the Buckeyes, truth be told.
Football has started. Thank God.
And so far, it's a tight race to see if South Carolina can turn the ball over more often than Vandy lines up in a illegal formation.
Awesome linebacker play; sniffed that one out last week.
Uh oh. SCAR starting QB is on the sidelines in a lot of pain. He broke a little sooner than I thought he would, running like a wannabe white Lattimore and all.
The SCAR backup...uh...doesn't look so good.
E: lol @ Paul Rudd vs Ray Lewis
Yeah, that wasn't pretty at all.
Oh man. Already a bigtime screwup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmmnRS1tVrk
Dude went a LONG way in the wrong direction, and even had guys blocking for him. And hell, the guys on the other team should have let him go.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 30, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
And hell, the guys on the other team should have let him go.
Yeah, that's my alma mater. Go Tigers. :blush:
The Pirate sails again right now. Fuck Adam James. Fuck Craig James. Fuck ESPN. Leach rules.
e: OH GOD NO Joe Tessitore and Matt Millen. Seriously, fuck ESPN.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 30, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
The Pirate sails again right now. Fuck Adam James. Fuck Craig James. Fuck ESPN. Leach rules.
e: OH GOD NO Joe Tessitore and Matt Millen. Seriously, fuck ESPN.
Could be worse--could be NBC Sports.
You know, I'm not sure if ND football is still important enough or relevant enough to have it's own TV deal, but ND is classy enough that if they're going to have their own TV deal, they deserve a better partner than NBC.
And speaking of ND, what do you think of Alan Pinckett's "criminal" remark, Seedy?
Quote from: dps on August 30, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
And speaking of ND, what do you think of Alan Pinckett's "criminal" remark, Seedy?
He had a point. Granted, it was the one on top of his head, but a point nonetheless. :lol:
Nature of the modern game.
Crap I don't have the longhorn network. :(
Looks like Internet stream for me.
Well holy shit, it looks like Chip Brown was right for the first time in his life. The Longhorn Network is now on U-verse, channel 1609.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 31, 2012, 05:00:47 AM
Well holy shit, it looks like Chip Brown was right for the first time in his life. The Longhorn Network is now on U-verse, channel 1609.
What is the hating on Chip? I enjoy his articles and listened to him on the radio I think he is usually spot on. Is there some big thing he was wrong about I am supposed to be appaled at :P
But yeah huge win for the LHN today.
My son David really did me proud last night. He saw the S Carolina-Vandy game on and ran at the TV saying 'football! football!' and then ran off and grabbed his football and started throwing it around the house. I was not really sure what to say...I guess it is in the soil out here in Texas.
Oh and here is your Bill in Sinton post of the week:
QuoteThis is the start of a new season this Saturday. I know some of us (myself included) won't be able to see it because of LSN but we need to support our team as best we can. Those going to the game know what to do. The rest of us will be adding to the synergy in our support of the Horns. Those in Austin also know what to do. We must start the synergy for our team. Remember Wyoming gave us a hard in Austin in 1977 before we finally won 17 to 3 so we must encourage our team. We need to be careful and calm and get off on the right foot. Go Horns! Fight and Win! Beat Wyoming!
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 30, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
e: OH GOD NO Joe Tessitore and Matt Millen. Seriously, fuck ESPN.
I still giggle over the Baylor-UW Bowl Game where they had some famous ex-linebacker commentating and the defense was so bad you could actually hear him trying to restrain his gag reflex. It wasn't Millen though.
I think the last time I got mad at a football commentator was the early 90s. Starting about mid-season 1993 Lee Corso kept picking WVU to lose each game it played. Not only that, he always said "[OPPONENT] in a big way over West Virginia". I swear I think he even picked Temple to beat them. They ended up going 11-0 in the regular season that year.
Nowadays I just can't get too worked up about it.
Quote from: derspiess on August 31, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
I think the last time I got mad at a football commentator was the early 90s. Starting about mid-season 1993 Lee Corso kept picking WVU to lose each game it played. Not only that, he always said "[OPPONENT] in a big way over West Virginia". I swear I think he even picked Temple to beat them.
That's awesome. :lol:
Great Tweet from last night. I don't know the OP (@celebrityhottub) but got it through Scott Van Pelt.
"I feel like Mike Leach invited me over for dinner but when I showed up he wasn't ready. Like nude and making hamburger patties not ready."
PAC-12 Network has some very "80's football" bumper music. SJSU is tied with Stanford btw.
E: I'm not a big fan of this new helmet rule.
Quote from: sbr on August 31, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Great Tweet from last night. I don't know the OP (@celebrityhottub) but got it through Scott Van Pelt.
"I feel like Mike Leach invited me over for dinner but when I showed up he wasn't ready. Like nude and making hamburger patties not ready."
:lol: That's awesome.
Why are Notre Dame and Navy playing in Ireland?
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 01, 2012, 08:10:16 AM
Why are Notre Dame and Navy playing in Ireland?
Combination of things; interesting road game, big high school tournament there and a bone to US Armed Forces broadcast as well.
ESPN Game Day's theme song just gave me a woody: 17 hours of college football coverage begins NOW.
Ah, Notre Dame. Still bestowing turnovers like an Irish Blessing from last year, I see.
Goddamn CBS are doubling down on the Irish shtick.
Awesome little piece from the SecNavy on the USS Fort McHenry, though.
"The US Navy and US Marine Corps: America's away team that no one can defeat."
*POWER PROJECTION BONER: ACTIVATE!*
Wait the early Big 12 game, WV vs Marshall, is not on and instead I get shit like Syracuse vs. Northwestern and East Carolina vs. App State? What bullshit is this?
That sucks ass. Shame you're not getting Ohio-Penn St. It's at least still a game.
Ok I bitched too soon it is on FX. I thought the conference had this big fancy new TV contract how the fuck did their games get on FX? :huh:
They did a quick blurb on one of the Ohio linebackers; his brother served in Afghanistan, suffered 14 separate bullet wounds in one action. And still manages to attend the Ohio home games.
14 bullet wounds. That's fucking hardcore. Almost as hardcore as attending Ohio games.
I hate the QB clapping bullshit and RB shifting before a play at Ohio State now. JUST SET UP YOU FUCKERS.
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
Ok I bitched too soon it is on FX. I thought the conference had this big fancy new TV contract how the fuck did their games get on FX? :huh:
Had my moment of panic at around 11:55am when I didn't see the game on any ESPN channels. Had to go to the WVU game release to see that it was on FX. I think Fox Sports has done games on FX before, but it's odd for me not to see this game on ESPN.
Anyway, I got my 60 points just a few seconds into the 4th quarter. It's 69-20 now, but I must have back to back 70-point games.
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
Ok I bitched too soon it is on FX. I thought the conference had this big fancy new TV contract how the fuck did their games get on FX? :huh:
:huh: Fox is tier 2, and FX is one of their channels, just like last year. Games on FX had Gus Johnson as the announcer. You don't remember that? There will be games on the main Fox channel this year as well. They have USC there this week though. WVU isn't beating them out, at least right now.
Dammit, I've been exposed to Pam Ward. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Dammit, I've been exposed to Pam Ward. :(
Wait a cotton pickin minute. I don't think that is Pam calling th 'cuse game. Ugh. Women announcing sports. :rolleyes:
Nevada up 14-0 over Cal at the end of one.
That's what Cal gets for wearing shitty white helmets.
I want to beat Meri with a belt after listening to that chick on espn2.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 01, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
Ok I bitched too soon it is on FX. I thought the conference had this big fancy new TV contract how the fuck did their games get on FX? :huh:
:huh: Fox is tier 2, and FX is one of their channels, just like last year. Games on FX had Gus Johnson as the announcer. You don't remember that? There will be games on the main Fox channel this year as well. They have USC there this week though. WVU isn't beating them out, at least right now.
Ok yeah all that came back to me a few minutes into the game. I am not in midseason form yet ok? Hell I had to look online to find out what channel FX was.
Anyway after watching Geno Smith go about 40-40 for 400 yards and 4 TDs or whatever it was I think WV is a perfect addition to the Big 12 geography be damned. They play our sorta ball and I am glad to have Holgorsen here because with the Pirate gone I was worried the conference was starting to lose its identity as the league with the big QBs and explosive offenses.
Anyway on to Tulsa and Iowa State.
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
Ok yeah all that came back to me a few minutes into the game. I am not in midseason form yet ok? Hell I had to look online to find out what channel FX was.
:lol: Fair enough.
QuoteAnyway after watching Geno Smith go about 40-40 for 400 yards and 4 TDs or whatever it was I think WV is a perfect addition to the Big 12 geography be damned. They play our sorta ball and I am glad to have Holgorsen here because with the Pirate gone I was worried the conference was starting to lose its identity as the league with the big QBs and explosive offenses.
Anyway on to Tulsa and Iowa State.
Yeah, I really like the additions. Aside from fitting in pretty well, they're both pretty successful programs in the BCS era. Someone posted a graphic from the LHN about that on ShaggyBevo last night, actually:
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They forgot the (0-1) next to the A&M BCS appearance. lolz
E: UTSA is playing South Alabama on ESPN3, so I'm watching that one. 20-17 UTSA middle of the 3rd. Looking a little shaky right now though.
The Penn State tears of Paternolism were delicious to watch today.
And Bowling Green's giving everything right back to Florida.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 01, 2012, 03:20:49 PM
They forgot the (0-1) next to the A&M BCS appearance. lolz
Have you ever seen the Aggie newspaper write up for that game? Moral victory city.
Oh shit touchdown UTSA! Something like a 40 yard TD pass off the playaction on 4th down to go up 27 - 24 with 9:00 left in the 4th quarter. The announcers are devastated.
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
Have you ever seen the Aggie newspaper write up for that game? Moral victory city.
Haha no I haven't.
E: What the fuck man. UTSA just had first and G on the 4 after a South Alabama turnover and penalty, they lined up, but the refs wouldn't let them snap the ball until the playclock expired and they threw a flag and hit them with delay of game. :huh: Maybe if Berkut sees this, he can explain why they might have done that. UTSA committing way too many penalties either way.
How...what the hell? They took the flags off of the goal posts?? UTSA kicker drilled the hell out of a 51 yard FG anyway. 33-31 UTSA with :17 left. Pretty fun game so far. UTSA has had bad kickoff and punt coverage so far, and gave up a wide open TD pass earlier that put them behind, so it's not even close to being over.
New post because UTSA just got their first FBS win AND (somewhat sad stat here) their first road win ever. :) 33-31 over South Alabama.
Iowa is losing at home to Northern Illinois. :lol:
Is there any place online where you can watch games for free? Don't have tv access atm. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
I want to beat Meri with a belt after listening to that chick on espn2.
Oh, admit it--you've wanted to beat her with a belt from the first day she ever posted here. Granted, you feel the same way about all the rest of us...
LOL, Indiana State just scored on the Hoosiers. This shit is more entertaining than the 'bama game. :lol:
Oh ffs Texas
That tackling :bleeding:
I like how they both decided to not wrap up and just let the guy go. Nice job, dumbasses.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 01, 2012, 07:16:01 PM
Is there any place online where you can watch games for free? Don't have tv access atm. :(
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/channel/espn3
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 01, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
I like how they both decided to not wrap up and just let the guy go. Nice job, dumbasses.
I am getting mad.
I knew MI was gonna lose, but holy shit, who are they, Ole Miss? Southern Miss?
Ignoring Bama/Michigan now. For a good game watch Clemson/Auburn.
Gah, another year of SEC douchebaggery.
7 plays, 73 yards and a TD in 90 seconds. With a freshman QB and some of the worst uniforms I have seen, and as someone who has seen most of Oregon's games in the last decade, that is really saying something.
Quote from: sbr on September 01, 2012, 09:42:30 PM
some of the worst uniforms I have seen
Check out UTEP (vs. OU) on Fox Sports Net if you can. They're very....orange.
Took Jake to the PSU game. That was fun.
50-3 with 7 minutes left in first half. :hmm:
Got back from the Texas game. Man I forgot how much I love going to football games. Pity it is $80 a ticket now. I originally got these tickets for PDH and I but he couldn't make it unfortunately and he missed his team putting up a pretty good fight.
I was pleased with how the offense played, not blown away or anything but the running game looked stout and David Ash played one of his better games outside of one inexplicable fumbled snap. Mike Davis' hands still suck and the offensive line was meh though. But I expected those things.
The defense just was not the dominant force I thought they could be. The pass defense really struggled particularly up the middle. And there was some crap tackling early on. The defensive line also had a hard time getting penetration. But man the Linebackers were great, making plays all over the place. I think when the defensive backfield gets its act together it still could be very good but it mainly because of this unit the game was not put away until very late.
The freshman kicker struggled big time. Missing an extra point and two FGs and that just cannot happen this year. I hope the Penn State transfer guy gets better soon we are not an offense that can survive missed FGs against good teams. The kick coverage was awesome though I hope that continues...and I very rarely say that about Texas they tend to struggle in this area.
So altogether not too bad a performance. Lots of work to do before New Mexico next week...especially for me trying to find a way to watch the game.
I want to go to sleep but OU and UTEP are tied at 7 at half and I can't justify sleep if I miss OU losing to UTEP :D
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
especially for me trying to find a way to watch the game.
I'll throw you a link next weekend.
Oh yeah, Texas State kicked the shit out of Houston today for their first win as well. Granted, Houston lost their coach and 20th year QB, but 30-13 is still a solid win.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 01, 2012, 11:17:53 PM
I'll throw you a link next weekend.
Thanks! I knew it would not be that hard especially with all the UVerse people joining the 1%.
And wow nice win for Coach Fran and TSU. Welcome to Div 1 FBS guys.
Wow, Arizona just missed a chip shot FG to win the game. OT.
600+ yards of total offense, 17 points.
Sigh.
Oh shit that was a badass play by the Arizona QB. Rolls out while directing traffic, ignores the dude pulling on his jersey and just tosses it to the open guy.
84-0 by Oklahoma st! Seems a bit excessive, especially against an FBS school.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
84-0 by Oklahoma st! Seems a bit excessive, especially against an FBS school.
I am not looking forward to that game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 02, 2012, 01:17:27 AM
Oh shit that was a badass play by the Arizona QB. Rolls out while directing traffic, ignores the dude pulling on his jersey and just tosses it to the open guy.
Scott looked mostly very good. Threw for almost 400 yards, and even at that he left a lot of yards on the field.
He needs to learn how to throw with some touch. He overthrew guys on screen passes.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
84-0 by Oklahoma st! Seems a bit excessive, especially against an FBS school.
The Pokes honestly might not have been able to help it (although they probably shouldn't have scheduled these guys to begin with). Savannah State is really really really bad. They've won four games since 2009, two of which were against what look to be D2 or NAIA teams. To their credit, they seem to own this North Carolina Central University, an FCS school they've beaten twice in a row.
:lol: Houston's OC has "resigned" after the loss to Texas State.
E: Forgot the link: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20035690/
Just got back, stories to tell later. Sorry, Valmy, I really would have wanted to go but shit.
Wyoming scored 17 and looks ok (could have been 24). Can you imagine Wyoming only down 24-31 in the 4th Quarter? I can't, that is why they never scored again, I guess. I saw an online cast of the game (shhh, I think it was illegal), and I am proud of the Cowboys this time.
Texas will be good, they have studs on the D, they just need an ass-kicking and a telling to PLAY TOGETHER rather than just try to be 1st round draft choices. They get this fixed, they will be ok.
I really, really like Wyoming's QB, he was a frosh all american last year, and it doesn't look like a soph slump this year.
Fucking Rambling Wreck ain't giving up on this game yet. What a clutch 4th and 6.
Fuck balls. Fucking Beamer.
Well that was an impressively bad decision.
Yay Nevada. Those Berkeley dudes have to be hating UNR at this point. Always wrecking their season. :D
This Meyer guy isn't afraid to run up the score, I see. :hmm:
Virginia Tech must hold the record for number of ugly wins. Also, I don't believe in jinxes but they really need to get rid of the empty national championship trophy case.
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Virginia Tech must hold the record for number of ugly wins. Also, I don't believe in jinxes but they really need to get rid of the empty national championship trophy case.
No kidding. GT gave that game away. Literally.
As if we don't have enough examples of what's wrong with college football, here's Lane Kiffin's Classy Move of the Week:
QuoteUSC walk-on loses scholarship to make room for Simione Vehikite, who was just released from jail
As those of us who watch college athletics know all too well, coaching at a high-profile Division-I program is typically more about winning than anything else. Players who contribute to the winning cause are constantly allowed to bend the rules both in the classroom and in everyday life. At USC, for example, a player can be sentenced to jail time and have his scholarship waiting for him when he returns.
Linebacker Simione Vehikite was sentenced to a year in jail back in mid-May after pleading no contest to leaving the scene of a car accident and driving with a .08 percent blood-alcohol level and causing injury. He served slightly over three months of his sentence and returned to the team on Wednesday. According to the Los Angeles Daily News, head coach Lane Kiffin said he was no longer a part of the program when he was arrested last March.
That didn't last very long. Not only was Vehikite welcomed back to the program, but a walk-on named Will Andrew did not have his scholarship renewed to make room for him. Kiffin does not feel as though he owes anyone an explanation for the situation.
"They're never granted longer (than a year)," Kiffin said. "He was fortunate to have one for a year."
While that may be true, it's also not all that common for a player to serve jail time and still be able to have his tuition taken care of when he gets out. Andrew said the situation is "out of my control" and that he will do whatever the coaches ask of him, but he has to feel slighted. Who wouldn't? I guess Vehikite fits into Kiffin's plan of "winning with style" and Andrew doesn't.
That is particularly shitty, but walk-ons always seem to get dumped on even by all college coaches. "Just tough it out one more year with me and I'm pretty sure I can get you a scholarship next year" :rolleyes:
Kiffin, while an asswipe, is right. He was fortunate to have a scholarship for a year as a walk-on, and unless he was an exceptional player, his is going to be one of the first ones not renewed when a better player comes along/back from prison/from wherever else USC is getting their players from.
He's right on that point, but can still be called on weaseling out of kicking the drunk driver off the team.
That being said, there's not a lot of teams with no players with arrest records, unfortunately.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 06, 2012, 04:31:43 PM
He's right on that point, but can still be called on weaseling out of kicking the drunk driver off the team.
Meh. Why should Kiffin get a special callout for that? That's just a college football thing, not a Lane Kiffin thing. It wouldn't even be a particularly interesting news story if there wasn't the omg walkon scholarship outrage shit attached to it. It would probably get about as much attention as the (pretty funny) A&M suspensions.
I think it's somewhat shameful that sports scholarships are only good for one year anyways.
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2012, 04:38:28 PM
I think it's somewhat shameful that sports scholarships are only good for one year anyways.
Heh.
MostA lot (I don't know for sure if it's "most" or not) of them aren't even full scholarships. Outside of football and basketball, there are partial scholarships that won't cover all your expenses.
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2012, 04:38:28 PM
I think it's somewhat shameful that sports scholarships are only good for one year anyways.
Why, keeping academic scholarships are also subject to performance.
God, Pitt looks awful.
Well it is Pitt.
Their loss to Youngstown State was hilarious.
It is Pitt, but Munchie Legaux has matured into a solid QB. Cincinnati may run away with the Big East title.
Gee, I guess upgrading by adding Pitt next year is going to let the ACC catch up to the SEC, right?
;)
Quote from: dps on September 07, 2012, 06:20:12 AM
Gee, I guess upgrading by adding Pitt next year is going to let the ACC catch up to the SEC, right?
;)
Yeah Syracuse and Pitt were taken for Basketball only that was clear. The ACC just wants to be the best at something.
Get to miss another Cowboy game...sigh.
Going to the airport early AM tomorrow. Thank God Southwest is cheap.
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
Get to miss another Cowboy game...sigh.
Going to the airport early AM tomorrow. Thank God Southwest is cheap.
:console:
Valmy, you see the new Big XII TV deal? Includes a 13 year grant of rights.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205680799&DB_OEM_ID=10410
Average of $20 million/year per school + whatever they can get for T3 and all the other stuff. Texas is going to be up over $40 million now just with this (also add in that new bowl and the playoffs, holy shit), with OU and KU probably at least in the high 20's low 30's I'd guess, with their tv/radio/tubes deals.
Sweet, when Wyoming joins the Big 12 we will finally get a piece of that pie!
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 10:05:17 AM
Sweet, when Wyoming joins the Big 12 we will finally get a piece of that pie!
Bring a friend and everyone gets even more because of the new conference championship game! :yeah:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 07, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
Bring a friend and everyone gets even more because of the new conference championship game! :yeah:
As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige. Maybe Air Force!
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 10:07:58 AM
As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige. Maybe Air Force!
No Aggies allowed!
UNLV would be solid for the road games. Also a free W for everyone. Just throwin that out there.
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 10:07:58 AM
As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige. Maybe Air Force!
The Big 12 actually already talked to Air Force back when they were flirting with BYU...and they said no. They doubted they could ever compete in the Big 12 and didn't want to do the things necessary to do so.
Anyway I am not very happy with the deal. It is not enough money to seduce away any ACC teams and will probably leave them permanently at 10 teams. Unless we get Louisville or something. But who knows? It might be an interesting off season. Maybe that SEC-Big 12 Bowl thing might give us the cash to successfully get Florida State over here.
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2012, 10:11:31 AM
Anyway I am not very happy with the deal. It is not enough money to seduce away any ACC teams
:blink: If they need that much more money, they weren't ever leaving anyway. This is $20 million for ten teams, T1 and T2 only. The ACC deal is $17 million for T1, T2, T3, with twelve teams and a CCG.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 07, 2012, 10:15:56 AM
:blink: If they need that much more money, they weren't ever leaving anyway. This is $20 million for ten teams, T1 and T2 only. The ACC deal is $17 million for T1, T2, T3, with twelve teams and a CCG.
Not that much more but 21 or 22 million would have been better. They are not coming here for the tradition or the love of Texas and OU. They will be coming for the money they need to compete with the SEC teams. Also the ACC does not demand the granting of rights.
The funniest part I think is now Kansas is one of the biggest money TV programs in the country. This combined with their ridiculously profiteable Basketball network means they will be bringing in 30 Million+ a year just from TV.
A positive is this will get more Big 12 games on national TV. I think the Big 12 is the most exciting conference so the more the merrier. The people demand the kind of awesome only Big 12 offenses can deliver!
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2012, 10:19:45 AM
Not that much more but 21 or 22 million would have been nice.
21 is what the PAC makes right now (not including T3 either). The Big Ten is at slightly less than that (including BTN). They both have 12 teams and a CCG. This is a solid deal.
QuoteThe funniest part I think is now Kansas is one of the biggest money TV programs in the country. This combined with their ridiculously profiteable Basketball network means they will be bringing in 30 Million+ a year just from TV.
Yeah, good times right there. They're pretty sneaky about it too. Rammed that Jayhawk Network through right under A&M's nose.
E: Even if it is just adjusted so everyone still makes the same $20 million even with 12 teams and a CCG, Florida State has to be in the OU/KU range if they sell their rights properly. 30+ is a helluva raise.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 07, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
21 is what the PAC makes right now (not including T3 either). The Big Ten is at slightly less than that (including BTN). They both have 12 teams and a CCG. This is a solid deal.
Close. According to http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/ the per-team breakdown for 2012 is:
Big Ten: $19.7-22 million
Pac 12: $20.2 million
Big 12: $20 million
SEC: $17.1 million
ACC: $17.1 million
The SEC and Big Ten will be negotiating new contracts in the short term, so those revenues can be expected to increase dramatically.
Quote from: grumbler on September 07, 2012, 11:13:03 AM
Close. According to http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/ the per-team breakdown for 2012 is:
Big Ten: $19.7-22 million
Pac 12: $20.2 million
Big 12: $20 million
SEC: $17.1 million
ACC: $17.1 million
The SEC and Big Ten will be negotiating new contracts in the short term, so those revenues can be expected to increase dramatically.
ESPN disagrees: http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/705/college-tv-rights-deals-undergo-makeovers Anyway, it's close enough that it doesn't matter either way re: what Valmy and I were talking about. Also, from that link:
QuoteBig East
6 years, $200 million, ABC/ESPN [CBS contributes $9 million of total] (through 2013)
Annual: $40 million
Average Annual per School: $3.18 million for football schools, $1.56 million for non-football schools
Notes: Big East is next conference up for renewal. Total is expected to be far below the $1.4 billion they turned down.
I still don't get why they turned that deal down. TCU and WVU made a TON of money off of realignment. WVU should be able to sell their other rights for a pretty good amount, too.
I don't pay much attention to the money side of college football, as important as it obviously is, but the Big 12 deal looks good to me. Some of the details of the joint ESPN-Fox agreement seem vague-- I wonder if you'll be able to get Fox-broadcasted games on ESPN3 under the deal. That would kick ass, given how you can get ESPN3 literally everywhere (phone, computer, Xbox, etc.).
Doh, for some reason I was editing that post with this:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20092301/report-big-east-considering-tweaks-to-conference-name
QuoteReport: Big East considering 'tweaks' to conference name
When the Big East announced the football-only additions of Boise State and San Diego State to the league membership, the conference seemed more "Big" and less "East." Combined with the all-sport additions of Memphis, Houston, SMU , and UCF in 2013; the league now spans the entire country. Conference USA is already taken, but the Big East is reportedly considering a name change.
A report in Businessweek.com cites comments from interim commissioner Joe Bailey, who reportedly said at the Bloomberg Sports Business Summit in New York the league is considering the possibilities of a different name to replace "Big East."
"The unintended consequences of adding new schools is that all of a sudden the Big East is a national conference," Bailey said. "It extends to four time zones in major markets. In one sense, it almost represents the United States in that diversity."
Bailey told the group that the Big East has commissioned a study to consider alternative names for the conference. What would you suggest for the league? Let us know in the comment section below, on Facebook, or give your Big East name idea to us on Twitter.
How about "Conference 6"?
Just don't give it a name. Nobody will care.
Ugh, Yankee vengeance. Chen has imploded like bad kimchi.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Ugh, Yankee vengeance. Chen has imploded like bad kimchi.
Which NCAA team is the Yankees?
The Utah - Utah State game is a total clusterfuck of turnovers and mistakes. 13-0 Utah State. Utah can't do anything on O, but the announcer, at least for a bit, was doing his best to jinx the upset, talking about how it just feels like a "special night" for Utah State before the first Q was even over.
^^lolz^^
After the dumbassery of the first half, Utah opened the scoring in the 3rd Q with a flea flicker for a TD. Sweet. They're kinda back to being stupid now though.
E: Oh wow. I just saw a KFC commercial for a bucket of chicken, some biscuits, and whatever else comes with large quantities of fried chicken these days, plus 4 UTSA tickets for $20. Sure, you get the runs, but hey FOOTBALL
AND THE QUARTERBACK IS TOAST
lol, didn't know that's Paul Kruger's little brother. Cool.
Quote from: Bill in SintonGO HORNS! BEAT NEW MEXICO!
Great win over Wyoming but now we must get ready for a new challenge. We must keep the synergy going! We must not underestimate New Mexico. They are coming off a big win over Southern 66-21 so we must be ready. Everyone knows what to do go let's get started. Go Horns! Fight and Win!
You better not be underestimating New Mexico MBM and FunkMonk. The team is coutning on us!
Anyway our Big 12 watching guide for this week (in CST of course):
11 AM on FX Miami at Kansas State
2:30 PM on FSSW Rice at Kansas
2:30 PM on Big Ten Network Iowa State at Iowa
6 PM on ESPN3 Texas Tech at (?!) Texas State
6 PM Grambling at TCU
6 PM Florida A&M at Oklahoma
7 PM on Longhorn Network New Mexico at Texas
9:30 PM on Pac-12 Network Oklahoma State at Arizona
I hope at least one of those two seemingly untelevised games are on FX :glare:
Kind of sucks this week really only Miami at Kansas State is on nationally.
I knew a cop that played for New Mexico football, back in the early '90s. Shit, can't remember his name.
Hey Valmy, check yo PMs. Also, New Mexico is Bob Davie's new team, which means I hate them a lot.
E: Florida A&M and OU is going to be replayed on the Sooner Network (Fox Sports Net) on Sunday if you...really want to watch.
I have fond memories of New Mexico from NCAA2008 or whatever game it was. :blush:
I hope he makes the second attempt. Icing the kicker is so dumb. 52 yards is a long way though.
E: Blah. He shanked that one even worse than the first attempt. Oh well. OT coming up. Woo. E2: Utah State with the win. Nice.
Utah deserved to lose.
Traitors.
The last stand of the WAC isn't going all that badly so far. UTSA (vs. Sunbelt), TxST (vs. C-USA), USU (vs. PAC-12 and 1AA), and NMSU (vs. 1AA) all have OOC Ws. Idaho sucks ass though. Good God.
I don't know what the upcoming OOC games look like though aside from UTSAs 1AA and TxST vs. TTU this weekend. They might all get crushed for all I know.
The WAC was great in the olden days, but they went to 16 in the 90s and it all fell apart. Since then it has been a journeyman's league.
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 11:05:54 PM
The WAC was great in the olden days, but they went to 16 in the 90s and it all fell apart. Since then it has been a journeyman's league.
Yeah. You know, TBH, as much as I like the UTSA move to C-USA, I actually think the WAC might have been a pretty good fit for them, especially if Texas State stayed, with C-USA being the eventual goal for both of them a few years down the line....not...next season for UTSA and the Sunbelt for TxST. Whatever. The ADs have said they'll keep playing OOC, so I guess it works out.
Quote from: PDH on September 07, 2012, 11:05:54 PM
The WAC was great in the olden days, but they went to 16 in the 90s and it all fell apart. Since then it has been a journeyman's league.
The experience of the WAC as a 16-team league is one of the reasons I thought the talk of 16-team "superleagues" was silly. 16-team conferences just don't make sense.
IMO, in college football, 10 teams is really about the best size. That allows all the teams to play each other every year and still have a reasonable OOC schedule. I know that conferences want at least 12 teams so they can stage a championship game, but aside from the revenue it generates, I don't see the point. You know that eventually, a team is going to go 12-0, then lose to a 9-3 team in the conference title game and miss out on the upcoming playoff (or the BCS title game for the next couple of years).
I don't know what is worse, the chick announcer or Ohio State playing like shit.
Fuck you Espn 2.
Women really shouldn't be allowed near a microphone on a sports broadcast.
Auburn and Miss St is competitive; can't believe how bad Auburn's offense--particularly the QB play--has been the last two weeks.
Awesome, K-State is destroying Miami.
This shit ain't gonna cut it in the Big Ten. STOP SMILING URBAN.
WHARGARBL.
Tulsa kid was administered CPR on the field after a helmet to helmet hit. Ambo'd up and at the hospital.
Your Joey Gallowayism of the day:
"Feetwork"
52-13 LOL
K-State is going to bring it again this year :ph34r:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 07, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Hey Valmy, check yo PMs. Also, New Mexico is Bob Davie's new team, which means I hate them a lot.
E: Florida A&M and OU is going to be replayed on the Sooner Network (Fox Sports Net) on Sunday if you...really want to watch.
Yeah Sunday is RGIII day so no thanks. Anyway thanks for the link I am having everybody over to watch it using my computer so it better work heh.
Anyway now Kansas vs. Rice.
Wow that Penn State kicker is something else.
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 02:32:24 PM
Yeah Sunday is RGIII day so no thanks. Anyway thanks for the link I am having everybody over to watch it using my computer so it better work heh.
Anyway now Kansas vs. Rice.
Kansas vs. Rice is going to be an awful game. Also, that site doesn't have particularly high quality video. At least one of the game links has worked for every game so far though.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2012, 01:45:30 PM
Tulsa kid was administered CPR on the field after a helmet to helmet hit. Ambo'd up and at the hospital.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8352006/tulane-safety-devon-walker-hospitalized-suffered-broken-neck-collapsed-lung-hit (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8352006/tulane-safety-devon-walker-hospitalized-suffered-broken-neck-collapsed-lung-hit)
QuoteTULSA, Okla. -- Tulane safety Devon Walker suffered a broken neck and collapsed lung Saturday in a head-to-head collision with a teammate during a game with Tulsa, according to a Tulane trainer.
Walker was revived on the field and a tracheotomy was performed. Walker is currently in the emergency and trauma center at Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, but there is no further update on his condition.
According to the Johns Hopkins Hospital's website, an injury to the neck at the first and second vertebrae in the spinal column -- and especially lower in the third through fifth vertebrae -- can affect respiratory muscles and the ability to breathe.
The injury occurred on the last play of the first half. Walker had a helmet-to-helmet collision with teammate Julius Warmsley while trying to tackle Tulsa back Willie Carter. Walker then rolled on his back and didn't move.
FOX reported he stopped breathing when emergency medical workers removed his jersey and shoulder pads. The network said workers administered CPR and put in an IV before Walker began breathing again.
A hush went over the crowd at H.A. Stadium as Walker was attended to on the field. Several coaches were in tears. Spectators bowed their heads as someone on the field led the stadium in prayer.
Walker is a senior majoring in cell and molecular biology. His brother, Raynard, told The Associated Press that their mother was watching the game on television when her son was injured.
The family was waiting for an update on Walker's condition, he said.
"We haven't heard much at all," he added. "We're still kind of in the dark right now."
Tulane head coach Curtis Johnson told a FOX Sports sideline TV reporter after the 45-10 loss that he hadn't received an update on Walker's condition, but said the injury had devastated his team.
"He's one of us, and he's a good kid," Johnson said.
Jesus.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 08, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Kansas vs. Rice is going to be an awful game.
Actually it was amazing, probably the best game I have seen so far this year.
And a horrible loss for Kansas, they really suck.
Wow, does the Big Ten suck again this year, or what?
It's really hard to say what teams in the conference are any good, if any of them are.
Wow Iowa State beat Iowa 9-6 :lol:
Sure glad it was the Kansas game that was on.
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
Actually it was amazing, probably the best game I have seen so far this year.
And a horrible loss for Kansas, they really suck.
It was a turnover fest in a game with two shitty defenses. :P You should have watched A&M lose in their typical "blow a lead" fashion. Pretty funny.
Oregon State just won.
Yep, the Beavs nutted up and beat Wisconsin. Oregon State my be pretty good this year, they are very, very young* but they looked pretty scrappy and the QB had a nice game.
*They have something absurd like 28 1st or 2nd year players on the 2 deep.
Tech is already up 14-0 on Texas State and they have the ball back21-0 now. TCU is kicking Grambling's ass 21-0 midway through the 1st.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 08, 2012, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
Actually it was amazing, probably the best game I have seen so far this year.
And a horrible loss for Kansas, they really suck.
It was a turnover fest in a game with two shitty defenses. :P You should have watched A&M lose in their typical "blow a lead" fashion. Pretty funny.
Oregon State just won.
All the turnovers were actually in the first Quarter most of the game was cleanly played.
And I will never watch A&M again if I can help it. Seeing Corps turds makes me ill.
Another PM for you Valmy. Less popups there, it seems, but I don't know how long it'll last.
I just saw Wyoming lost to Toledo. The Wyoming QB who was so irritating/entertaining was taken off on a stretcher.
Hey MBM UTSA won again. :)
Kinda miffed it wasn't on ESPN 3 this time.
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 08, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
Hey MBM UTSA won again. :)
Kinda miffed it wasn't on ESPN 3 this time.
Yeah I saw that. 2-0! Woo! Probably wasn't on anywhere because Commerce is a DII team.
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 08, 2012, 02:36:47 PM
Wow that Penn State kicker is something else.
Give him a break; he's a walk-on that didn't even belong on the team until the real kicker skipped town over the Sandusky thing.
Wow. Ash with the 50 yard TD run.
Stupid ass Wisconsin. Stupid ass Big 10.
Sacramento State is becoming the Pac-12 killers. A year after beating the Beavers in Corvallis they go to Boulder and beat Colorado.
Man, Utah lost to Utah State too. The Pac-12 really needed that win by OSU.
Sorry, not gonna go MadBurgerMaker and do 15 edits to my last post.
Oregon had another very good first half, and another very average (or worse) second half. This time they left their starters in for most of the game and were out scored 22-7. Not good, but they still have time to improve, which is the only decent thing about the ducks crappy schedule this year.
UCLA is looking very good against Nebraska. I liked the Mora Jr hire at the time and it looks like a real football team out there, unlike UCLA from the last couple of years under Neuheisal. Another upset of a ranked Big Ten team would be great.
Really Washington, 41-3? I thought they would at least show up.
Let's see what the Arizona schools can do tonight.
Good lord, WSU only beat Eastern Washington by 4.
Bo pelini is gonna get his ass fired.
EWU is good team.
Huskies looked like ugh.
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Sorry, not gonna go MadBurgerMaker and do 15 edits to my last post.
:D The edit button is my friend.
As I typed that, touchdown Texas.
Savannah State is now 0-2 and been out scored 139-0. :huh:
Quote from: grumbler on September 08, 2012, 06:00:32 PM
Wow, does the Big Ten suck again this year, or what?
It's really hard to say what teams in the conference are any good, if any of them are.
Michigan State looks like they're at least decent.
Ohio State looks pretty good, but with the NCAA penalties against them, they're basically in the place of playing spoiler for other teams.
Quote from: katmai on September 08, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
EWU is good team.
Huskies looked like ugh.
EWU has always been a good 1-AA team but they should not be able to compete with a Pac-12 team.
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
Savannah State is now 0-2 and been out scored 139-0. :huh:
Also +$600,000 or something like that. They mentioned it on Gameday this morning (ESPN has apparently decided to suddenly be all mad about bodybag games).
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Not necessarily, the committee hasn't been named and we don't know how much strength of schedule will matter. The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
Hoy shit Nebraska you might block the middle linebacker when you are in your own end zone.
I'm worried Braxton Miller is gonna get nicked up by the time the end of the season comes. Kid is doing good, but is having to rush waaaaay too much and is already taking some licks.
Sbr they took UW to last seconds last year and won the 1-AA champ two years ago.
And it is Wazzu.
Arkansas looks like about to be upset by UL-Monroe.
Holy fucking UL-Monroeshit.
Coach Klein got his mojo back.
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Not necessarily, the committee hasn't been named and we don't know how much strength of schedule will matter. The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
:yeahright:
UCLA let a chance to take control run down their collective legs.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Not necessarily, the committee hasn't been named and we don't know how much strength of schedule will matter. The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
:yeahright:
I thought you were one of the Boise State honks who think any undefeated team should get a shot over a better one loss team. If that wasn't you sorry.
I'm glad the powder blue is at least being competitive. I missed the good old USC-UCLA slobbernockers.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 08, 2012, 10:07:15 PM
I'm glad the powder blue is at least being competitive. I missed the good old USC-UCLA slobbernockers.
They have been the better team in the second half but they are giving away too many opportunities to take control.
Has Erin Attention Whore Andrews been on camera at all tonight?
MBM: that Franklin kids is impressive
I've got a camera for her.
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Not necessarily, the committee hasn't been named and we don't know how much strength of schedule will matter. The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
:yeahright:
I thought you were one of the Boise State honks who think any undefeated team should get a shot over a better one loss team. If that wasn't you sorry.
The BCS system is illegitimate. Given that, I argue for whoever I like, and I like Boise State.
Looks like Georgia might finally put away these pesky Mizzou puddytats.
Troy Aikman just came. Game over huskers I hope you suck in the 'shoe too. G'night everybody except Tim.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
The way the new playoff system is set up there will be a lot fewer in the future since it factors in strength of schedule.
Not necessarily, the committee hasn't been named and we don't know how much strength of schedule will matter. The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
:yeahright:
I thought you were one of the Boise State honks who think any undefeated team should get a shot over a better one loss team. If that wasn't you sorry.
The BCS system is illegitimate. Given that, I argue for whoever I like, and I like Boise State.
In what way is it "illegitimate"? There are lots of things you can call the bcs but I am struggling with that one.
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
History has sort of proven us yahoos were correct with one exception. It seems yahoos like you are impervious to history. But really even if I did not have history behind me I would still feel this way.
It just annoys me that in this game you can go undefeated, including the postseason, and not be the champs. This is the only sport in the entire world I am aware of where that is possible. I just want that stopped.
Thoughts: man sucks for Wyoming. So sorry Peedee.
I am not sure what to think about Texas. They cannot really run the ball or dominate New Mexico? I mean yes they won 45-0 but that was just a puzzling performance. How good are these guys? I still do not know.
Oh and justice was served.
Nebraska lost
Missouri lost
Texas A&M lost
Fuck you guys.
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
History has sort of proven us yahoos were correct with one exception. It seems yahoos like you are impervious to history. But really even if I did not have history behind me I would still feel this way.
It just annoys me that in this game you can go undefeated, including the postseason, and not be the champs. This is the only sport in the entire world I am aware of where that is possible. I just want that stopped.
You do realize that a 4-team playoff won't change that, right? There could easily be 5 or more undefeated teams. And there's no guarantee that the selection committee won't take a 1-loss team over an undefeated team, either.
Quote from: dps on September 08, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
You do realize that a 4-team playoff won't change that, right? There could easily be 5 or more undefeated teams. And there's no guarantee that the selection committee won't take a 1-loss team over an undefeated team, either.
Of course I do. But it is less likely to happen so improvement has been made.
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2012, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
84-0 by Oklahoma st! Seems a bit excessive, especially against an FBS school.
I am not looking forward to that game.
Looking good so far :cheers:
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2012, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
84-0 by Oklahoma st! Seems a bit excessive, especially against an FBS school.
I am not looking forward to that game.
Looking good so far :cheers:
It's all gravy now.
Arizona up 30-21, and even if they cannot hold on and lose, this team is much better than expected.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 08, 2012, 02:36:47 PM
Wow that Penn State kicker is something else.
Give him a break; he's a walk-on that didn't even belong on the team until the real kicker skipped town over the Sandusky thing.
The real kicker has an injury so even if he had stayed that walk-on would have been kicking.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 08, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Another PM for you Valmy. Less popups there, it seems, but I don't know how long it'll last.
It was sorta funny all of us crowded around a tiny window on my computer. A good time was had though! Thanks for the links. The next time a game is on LHN I hope to have it on my TV.
Quote from: dps on September 08, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
History has sort of proven us yahoos were correct with one exception. It seems yahoos like you are impervious to history. But really even if I did not have history behind me I would still feel this way.
It just annoys me that in this game you can go undefeated, including the postseason, and not be the champs. This is the only sport in the entire world I am aware of where that is possible. I just want that stopped.
You do realize that a 4-team playoff won't change that, right? There could easily be 5 or more undefeated teams. And there's no guarantee that the selection committee won't take a 1-loss team over an undefeated team, either.
That seems very unlikely, when was the last time there was 5 undefeated teams?
There has been some simply brilliant playcalling in this game.
That blitz on 3rd and 12 when we had not blitzed much all night. Simply awesome.
Rodriguez >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stoops for actual game leadership.
Quote from: Berkut on September 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
There has been some simply brilliant playcalling in this game.
That blitz on 3rd and 12 when we had not blitzed much all night. Simply awesome.
Rodriguez >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stoops for actual game leadership.
Ihave the game on, but I'm not in front of the TV. How is the new QB looking?
Scott is looking outstanding through two games.
Toledo:
30/46 387 8.4 2 1
OkSt:
28/41 320 7.8 2 0
The Indiana QB broke his leg in a nasty way. Don't look it up. Seriously. It's nasty.
Also at Huskerboards, the meltdown is underway. Somewhat entertaining.
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Quote from: dps on September 08, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
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Quote from: sbr on September 08, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
The problem is there will always be yahoos like you who look at nothing but wins and losses.
History has sort of proven us yahoos were correct with one exception. It seems yahoos like you are impervious to history. But really even if I did not have history behind me I would still feel this way.
It just annoys me that in this game you can go undefeated, including the postseason, and not be the champs. This is the only sport in the entire world I am aware of where that is possible. I just want that stopped.
You do realize that a 4-team playoff won't change that, right? There could easily be 5 or more undefeated teams. And there's no guarantee that the selection committee won't take a 1-loss team over an undefeated team, either.
That seems very unlikely, when was the last time there was 5 undefeated teams?
Granted, that's very unlikely. The committee taking a 1-loss team over an undefeated team, not so unlikely.
The problem is that Division 1 is too big and the conferences within it aren't anywhere close to equal. Managing to mow down the Sun Belt or Conference USA doesn't make you one of the top 4(or even 10 or 15 generally) teams in the country.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
The problem is that Division 1 is too big and the conferences within it aren't anywhere close to equal. Managing to mow down the Sun Belt or Conference USA doesn't make you one of the top 4(or even 10 or 15 generally) teams in the country.
:yes:
There is too much of a difference in strength of schedule in division 1 football, and I am interested in the best teams playing for the title, not the most deserving. Sometimes the best team might have more losses than a different worse team, for example Alabama last year. Any one who watched the first LSU-Alabama game last year knew Alabama was the better team, unfortunately due to a shitty kicker and the LSU kid making one of the best plays I have ever seen in the defensive backfield they lost.
Until the Division 1 conferences do something to equalize the scheduling problems no system will be any better than the other. The 4 team "playoff" may be better but I am betting idioits that look at wins and losses over anything else will still have more say than those who really know who might be best.
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Until the Division 1 conferences do something to equalize the scheduling problems no system will be any better than the other. The 4 team "playoff" may be better but I am betting idioits that look at wins and losses over anything else will still have more say than those who really know who might be best.
Too many bones thrown to the powerhouses and the cupcakes*; the current system benefits them both: the Savannah States get their cash, and the Florida States get their tune-ups. Or, in the case of Troy State and Fresno State, you sacrifice a few years of on the road ass whippings to generate a higher profile for your program.
*Or, as Golic would say, some aren't even cupcakes, they're muffins. No icing.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Until the Division 1 conferences do something to equalize the scheduling problems no system will be any better than the other. The 4 team "playoff" may be better but I am betting idioits that look at wins and losses over anything else will still have more say than those who really know who might be best.
Too many bones thrown to the powerhouses and the cupcakes*; the current system benefits them both: the Savannah States get their cash, and the Florida States get their tune-ups. Or, in the case of Troy State and Fresno State, you sacrifice a few years of on the road ass whippings to generate a higher profile for your program.
*Or, as Golic would say, some aren't even cupcakes, they're muffins. No icing.
The only ones with any interest in changing the system are the fans and the TV networks. Hopefully money will eventually talk and force some better OOC games.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
Too many bones thrown to the powerhouses and the cupcakes*; the current system benefits them both: the Savannah States get their cash, and the Florida States get their tune-ups. Or, in the case of Troy State and Fresno State, you sacrifice a few years of on the road ass whippings to generate a higher profile for your program.
Meh, even if the BCS teams go full cupcake for OOC scheduling, they still have to play 8-10 reasonably tough opponents. That's a far cry from actually being in a cupcake conference and still demanding a shot at the title.
Safety John Boyett, one of Oregon's best defensive players, is out for the year. He is havign surgery on BOTH patella tendons. :ouch:
Not enough focus on Arizona kicking the teeth in of Okie State.
What I missed when I was away:
Wyoming defense apparently still can't play - Toledo ran up and down on them.
Wyoming was driving to get the game in reach when a Toledo player horse collared the Wyoming QB and another one dove in to helmet to helmet the QB. Brett Smith, who gave Texas fits and had over 400 yards of offense against Toledo was backboarded off the field. Wyoming got the ball a couple more times, but lost by 4. No real update as to his condition, not a good sign.
Wyoming is not even a good team with the All American QB, without him they are awful.
Shit.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
The problem is that Division 1 is too big and the conferences within it aren't anywhere close to equal. Managing to mow down the Sun Belt or Conference USA doesn't make you one of the top 4(or even 10 or 15 generally) teams in the country.
Yeah ok that problem exists in every other sport in Division I and they do not have this issue. Even the other football divisions. But, as I said, the facts prove you wrong. The undefeateds from the lower conferences have generally done very well in the BCS so what you are saying is theory only and not supported by actual evidence on the field. But even if that was not the case I still am not happy about it.
And yes I know it will still happen...but I think TCU a couple years ago and maybe one of the Utah or Boise State teams might have made it in the playoffs if we had the system we are going to have in a couple years at the time.
Quote from: PDH on September 10, 2012, 07:55:33 AM
What I missed when I was away:
Wyoming defense apparently still can't play - Toledo ran up and down on them.
Wyoming was driving to get the game in reach when a Toledo player horse collared the Wyoming QB and another one dove in to helmet to helmet the QB. Brett Smith, who gave Texas fits and had over 400 yards of offense against Toledo was backboarded off the field. Wyoming got the ball a couple more times, but lost by 4. No real update as to his condition, not a good sign.
Wyoming is not even a good team with the All American QB, without him they are awful.
Shit.
Yeah I hope he can come back eventually. So sorry man. That sucks.
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
Not enough focus on Arizona kicking the teeth in of Okie State.
It certainly made me a bit less concerned about Texas going there in three weeks.
This was the hit. They guy coming in from the right hit the QB under the chin and drove his head into the turf.
Quote from: PDH on September 10, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
The was the hit. They guy coming in from the right hit the QB under the chin and drove his head into the turf.
That's a Spartoon play, but no Spartoons are present!
Love the facemask, too. That didn't get called though the horse collar did).
Yeah, guy leading with his hands to tackle (er raise the helmet) of a defenseless QB. I suspect he got a double concussion - one from the hit to his chin, the other from his head being driven into the turf.
Hey berkut, I don't know if you've seen this yet but the Oregon Arizona game on the 22nd is at 7:30 on espn. It will be mice to are more pac-12 games nationally.
Quote from: sbr on September 10, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
It will be mice to are more pac-12 games nationally.
Pac 12 coach in pep talk: "Are we men or are we mice?"
Bill in Sinton has nothing on this Razorbacks fan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1BO0vAUD8
Surprised no comment from Seedy about Irish joining ACC.
I look forward to the inevitable upsets by Duke.
Quote from: katmai on September 13, 2012, 02:44:01 AM
Surprised no comment from Seedy about Irish joining ACC.
I thought it was all sports but football (though they say if they give up football independence they will join the ACC).
Don't really get why they prefer the ACC to the Big Ten. :huh:
Tim- it is all sports but Football (well sort of as they will play five games vs ACC opponents and are tied to non bcs ACC bowls.) and with plans to keep Stanford, USC, and Army on schedule means likely some of their Big ten matchups go bye bye.
Quote from: katmai on September 13, 2012, 02:44:01 AM
Surprised no comment from Seedy about Irish joining ACC.
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A local high school kid, who has committed to the Ducks, ran for 643 yards and 10 TDs (38 carries) in a 84-63 game last night.
I think Notre Dame recognizes they need to have some allegiance to a conference, and the B1G would only allow Notre Dame in if they went in all the way. If Notre Dame plays five ACC games a year I think somehow they think that helps keep them relevant in any discussions about the eventual "playoff" system we're heading toward and the ACC has a lot of games in big media markets which allows Notre Dame to keep up their "national" fanbase.
The ACC is actually a good fit for ND, other than geographically. ACC schools have the kinds of academics that would appeal to the ND president, the ACC has lots of private schools, and the ACC has a lot of ND's traditional opponents. ND recruits heavily in the east, so this works for recruiting, as well.
ND's only other option was the Big 12 (which was also willing to allow ND to be a partial member), but there were few schools there that ND had any interest in playing. Plus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise, unlike the fairly solid ACC. The B12 has slightly better bowls, to be sure.
I think ND pretty much got exactly what it needed from the ACC, and vice-versa.
Louisville is curb stomping UNC.
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Plus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise,
They just signed a 13 year grant of rights along with their new TV deal. The Big 12 isn't even remotely shaky.
UDub is up 42-0 in 2nd quarter vs Portland St.
Yet this game doesn't tell me squat about how this team is after the drubbing at LSU. Man I hate playing FCS teams.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 15, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Plus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise,
They just signed a 13 year grant of rights along with their new TV deal. The Big 12 isn't even remotely shaky.
Really? I thought they had lost 4 teams in the last 2 years. Must be the other Big 12 Conference I am thinking of.
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
Really? I thought they had lost 4 teams in the last 2 years. Must be the other Big 12 Conference I am thinking of.
Again, they just signed a 13 year grant of rights. So, yes. Really. Could you possibly be more of a douche about it?
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but man, there must've been some folded $100 bills passed around to the refs by Saban before the Arkansas-Alabama game. I haven't seen such homer assfucking of the visitors like this in a long time.
Oh, and fuck you, Ed. I hope they gave you a fucking heart attack today.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 15, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but man, there must've been some folded $100 bills passed around to the refs by Saban before the Arkansas-Alabama game. I haven't seen such homer assfucking of the visitors like this in a long time.
Didn't bother turning that one on because it looked like Bama would just overpower the Pigs. The refs have really been shitting on them though? That's messed up. They need all the help they can get.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 15, 2012, 04:50:52 PM
Didn't bother turning that one on because it looked like Bama would just overpower the Pigs. The refs have really been shitting on them though? That's messed up. They need all the help they can get.
Back when it was early, yeah. But once Bama got some serious points on the board, they started to simply truck them. But Arkansas had some real shitty calls go against them, turnovers and whatnot. I'm sure they'll show them in the extended highlights.
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 03:51:28 PMPlus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise, unlike the fairly solid ACC.
Shaky membership wise? How can that be possible? Not only did every single unhappy school already leave but everybody signed their rights away for 13 years. Whereas in the ACC the football schools are pissed off about them bringing in more and more Basketball schools and a couple of them voted against the exit penalty. This baffles me. Is this a troll?
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
Really? I thought they had lost 4 teams in the last 2 years. Must be the other Big 12 Conference I am thinking of.
Is this 2010? Thats weird I thought it was 2012.
Awesome. The more Gator interceptions, the less of a chance to hear that fucking Rocky Top bullshit.
Seeing a lot of holding and facemasks by Tennessee that aren't being called. :hmm:
WTF Saban. Let up already. :lol:
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 15, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
WTF Saban. Let up already. :lol:
What, and
not be the biggest dickhead in sports after Belichick?
UNC is really making this game interesting.
E: Oh wow and they just got a quick 50 yard TD. Only down by 5 now, and they're going to two.
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
The ACC is actually a good fit for ND, other than geographically. ACC schools have the kinds of academics that would appeal to the ND president, the ACC has lots of private schools, and the ACC has a lot of ND's traditional opponents. ND recruits heavily in the east, so this works for recruiting, as well.
ND's only other option was the Big 12 (which was also willing to allow ND to be a partial member), but there were few schools there that ND had any interest in playing. Plus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise, unlike the fairly solid ACC. The B12 has slightly better bowls, to be sure.
I think ND pretty much got exactly what it needed from the ACC, and vice-versa.
I suspect the single biggest reason is where they'd play in the ACC versus where they'd play in the Big XII. There is upside even in the shit ACC teams, playing in Boston, Pittsburgh, D.C. area etc even when those schools are bad keeps Notre Dame more present in the big markets in the east and maintains their image as a national team. Playing in Ames Iowa and various other Big XII stops does little for Notre Dame on any level.
Yeah it's a media market thing.
Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: grumbler on September 15, 2012, 03:51:28 PMPlus, the Big 12 is still pretty shaky membership-wise, unlike the fairly solid ACC.
Shaky membership wise? How can that be possible? Not only did every single unhappy school already leave but everybody signed their rights away for 13 years. Whereas in the ACC the football schools are pissed off about them bringing in more and more Basketball schools and a couple of them voted against the exit penalty. This baffles me. Is this a troll?
Grumbler is a complete idiot that spouts off shit that is undeniably wrong on a regular basis. If you call him on it he just reverts to douchebag troll mode and becomes even more unbearable than you might have previously thought possible.
He's also never once admitted he's ignorant of anything. Like in this case if he remotely understood that the Big XII members had signed a 13 year grant of rights and what that actually means he'd never have said membership is shaky.
The only thing that could kill the Big XII would be Texas and Oklahoma leaving, which just looks highly unlikely. Texas makes the most money of any FBS school in the Big XII so have no incentive to move elsewhere, and no other conference would permit them the institutional influence and control. Oklahoma probably isn't 100% happy in the Big XII but from what I can see Oklahoma politics would dictate that OU take OSU with them wherever they go, which makes it hard for OU to find a home (I don't know how true that is, and I'll openly admit to that.)
Holy shit. Louisville just turned it over inside their own...wait it's under review.confirmed. UNC has the ball on UL's 23 or so down by 5.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 15, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
I suspect the single biggest reason is where they'd play in the ACC versus where they'd play in the Big XII. There is upside even in the shit ACC teams, playing in Boston, Pittsburgh, D.C. area etc even when those schools are bad keeps Notre Dame more present in the big markets in the east and maintains their image as a national team. Playing in Ames Iowa and various other Big XII stops does little for Notre Dame on any level.
Well there is the advantage of Texas recruits.
So on a side note I'll be down in Austin for the UT / WVU game in October, first time in Austin actually.
@valmy
They already schedule Oklahoma and Texas. Should get them enough of gravitas to recruit in Texas. I mean reason keeping USC and Stanford is to keep West Coast pipeline open.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 15, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
Oh, and fuck you, Ed. I hope they gave you a fucking heart attack today.
:lol:
The BYU vs Utah State game is freaking all people here have been talking about for the last two weeks.
And the Gators are snuffing out the Rocky Tards, as it should be. CHOMP CHOMP
My apartment complex is synergized for the Texas game: Driving home today I saw multiple car flags on several vehicles.
I'm loving these Irish. All you anti-papists can suck it, this team is for real.
UTSA won again. 3-0 now. :)
What a steaming pile of dogshit the Big 10 is. Leaders and Legends my ass.
And Stanford is giving USC all they can handle.
USC cannot block Stanford, Barkley is getting his ass kicked.
MBM:And Barkley goes 4 years without beating Stanford.
I enjoy watching Stanford.
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 15, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
I enjoy watching Stanford.
I enjoy watching USC lose PAC-12 games.
Is Notre Dame's secondary all white or are the scubs in?
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 15, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
My apartment complex is synergized for the Texas game: Driving home today I saw multiple car flags on several vehicles.
You may live in San Antonio, sir, but your complex has all the synergetic focusness of Sinton.
I'm turning off this Texas Chainsaw Massacre of the Fightin' Trent Lotts and going to bed. Night, all.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 15, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 15, 2012, 10:25:34 PM
I enjoy watching USC lose PAC-12 games.
Same.
Heh. I'll pull for USC when they are playing out of conference games, but once everyone is in conference anything goes.
Fresno State 69, Colorado 14. And it was not that close.
I feel sorta bad about the Big 12 and Baylor tricking the PAC 12 into taking them.
Quote from: sbr on September 15, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
What a steaming pile of dogshit the Big 10 is.
I thought MSU might at least be decent but Notre Dame just crushed them.
Sad to say but a rebuilding Ohio State team and a Sophmore slumping Michigan are the best of the bunch.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 01:50:46 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 15, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
What a steaming pile of dogshit the Big 10 is.
I thought MSU might at least be decent but Notre Dame just crushed them.
Sad to say but a rebuilding Ohio State team and a Sophmore slumping Michigan are the best of the bunch.
LOL. Other than Ohio State is 3-0, which can't go bowling, their only other remaining undefeateds are Minnesota and Northwestern.
I'll laugh so hard if Ohio st. goes undefeated.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 15, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
Again, they just signed a 13 year grant of rights. So, yes. Really. Could you possibly be more of a douche about it?
Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems. Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 01:50:46 AM
I thought MSU might at least be decent but Notre Dame just crushed them.
Teams that can't pass won't beat Notre Dame. MSU doesn't have a QB, so really didn't stand a chance.
The Irish are definitely beatable, though. Their secondary is weak, and they also don't have a QB.
QuoteSad to say but a rebuilding Ohio State team and a Sophmore slumping Michigan are the best of the bunch.
Don't disagree, but also don't know what a "Sophmore slumping Michigan" is.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 15, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
Again, they just signed a 13 year grant of rights. So, yes. Really. Could you possibly be more of a douche about it?
Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems. Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.
Good example of how ignorant grumbler is about the specifics of the grant of rights contracts. Of course in grumbler world he's never been mistaken, as he is the most interesting man in the world.
Quote from: dps on September 16, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 01:50:46 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 15, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
What a steaming pile of dogshit the Big 10 is.
I thought MSU might at least be decent but Notre Dame just crushed them.
Sad to say but a rebuilding Ohio State team and a Sophmore slumping Michigan are the best of the bunch.
LOL. Other than Ohio State is 3-0, which can't go bowling, their only other remaining undefeateds are Minnesota and Northwestern.
:w00t:
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 16, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
Good example of how ignorant grumbler is about the specifics of the grant of rights contracts. Of course in grumbler world he's never been mistaken, as he is the most interesting man in the world.
Good example of how OttovonBismarck decides to make ad hom arguments when he has no intellectual contributions to add. Of course, his ad hom misses the target.
Quote from: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 09:45:03 AM
:w00t:
Minnesota could be a very interesting team this year. They could go 8-4 or 4-8.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 16, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
Good example of how ignorant grumbler is about the specifics of the grant of rights contracts. Of course in grumbler world he's never been mistaken, as he is the most interesting man in the world.
Good example of how OttovonBismarck decides to make ad hom arguments when he has no intellectual contributions to add. Of course, his ad hom misses the target.
Grumbler 101: Declare yourself victor of all arguments and possibly Emperor of the World.
Isn't it time for you to go back to whatever nursing home it is you belong in?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
I'll laugh so hard if Ohio st. goes undefeated.
Go fuck yourself.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
I'll laugh so hard if Ohio st. goes undefeated.
Go fuck yourself.
After barely beating Cal I don't think that will be a problem.
Timmay is trying to taint St. Urban.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 16, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
Grumbler 101: Declare yourself victor of all arguments and possibly Emperor of the World.
Isn't it time for you to go back to whatever nursing home it is you belong in?
Good example of how OttovonBismarck decides to make ad hom arguments when he has no intellectual contributions to add. Of course, his ad hom misses the target.
I don't understand where this sudden Virginian-on-Virginian violence is coming from.
For the sake of Old Dominion, gentlemen.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 12:27:06 PM
I don't understand where this sudden Virginian-on-Virginian violence is coming from.
For the sake of Old Dominion, gentlemen.
Don't interrupt OvB, Seedy; he's just warming up in FlailEx '12. Plenty more amusement to come, but still no violence. For there to be violence, one of his flails would have to hit.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 15, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
Again, they just signed a 13 year grant of rights. So, yes. Really. Could you possibly be more of a douche about it?
Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems. Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.
No dude, they signed a grant of rights with the TV deal. I don't know how many times people have to tell you this until you get it. I'm not "butthurt," you're just being a fucking asshole about it for no reason while also apparently not having a single clue what you're talking about.
E: Do you not know what a grant of rights is? Is that what it is?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 01:30:48 PM
No dude, they signed a grant of rights with the TV deal. I don't know how many times people have to tell you this until you get it.
Well, dude, this is just a contract. I don't know how many times people have to tell you this until you get it. A team that wishes to leave will violate the contract, and the subsequent lawsuit will decide what damages the conference will get. It's a more solid deal, in theory, than the earlier TV deal, but only in theory.
Quote
I'm not "butthurt," you're just being a fucking asshole about it for no reason while also apparently not having a single clue what you're talking about.
Someone reduced to calling another "a fucking asshole" out of the blue is butthurt. The question isn't "
are you butthurt," but "
why are you butthurt." What about the Big 12 compels you to burst into tears over a simple intellectual argument and start calling people names? Why is anyone who notes the instability of the Big 12 a "fucking asshole?"
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 02:06:53 PM
Well, dude, this is just a contract. I don't know how many times people have to tell you this until you get it. A team that wishes to leave will violate the contract, and the subsequent lawsuit will decide what damages the conference will get. It's a more solid deal, in theory, than the earlier TV deal, but only in theory.
More solid "in theory"? It's more solid period. It's a contract that gives their media rights and revenue to the Big 12 until 2025 if they leave. If the conference is still "shaky" to you after signing that, then no conferences are stable. Alternate option: Everyone who has said the GOR makes the conference stable, and it's a lot of people that don't just post on Languish for grins, for at least the next 13 years is right, and grumbler is wrong all by himself. Gee. I wonder which one it is.
Quote
Someone reduced to calling another "a fucking asshole" out of the blue is butthurt. The question isn't "are you butthurt," but "why are you butthurt." What about the Big 12 compels you to burst into tears over a simple intellectual argument and start calling people names? Why is anyone who notes the instability of the Big 12 a "fucking asshole?"
Fuck you, jerkoff. You get called an asshole and a douche and a jerkoff because you're being an asshole and a douche and a jerkoff. It would be pretty easy to understand if you weren't an apparent social retard. You were wrong about something and it got you all mad, so you went into punk mode after the mistake is simply pointed out. Again: Fuck you, jerkoff. If you wanted to talk about the possibility of teams somehow getting out of the GOR, that would be fine, and I'm down for that. Except you didn't do that. You didn't even mention the GOR because you didn't initially know about it and then figured it was just something that was always in their TV deals, or at least the one that was in effect two years ago. That's why you brought up the four teams leaving like it was still the same situation for everyone else who remained or came in as new members. It isn't. Shut up.
ANYWAY: USC dropped to 13th in the AP after the loss: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/ap
JUST FOR KAT
FFS MBM enough with the modifications.
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
FFS MBM enough with the modifications.
Fuck him. I'm tired of his shit.
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
FFS MBM enough with the modifications.
:lol: thank you.
Fine, next time I'll tell grumbler to go fuck himself over like ten different posts. :)
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Fine, next time I'll tell grumbler to go fuck himself over like ten different posts. :)
That would be better, I couldn't tell what you were changing each time.
What Sbr said.
Quote from: sbr on September 16, 2012, 02:51:30 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Fine, next time I'll tell grumbler to go fuck himself over like ten different posts. :)
That would be better, I couldn't tell what you were changing each time.
Not much, just fixing typos and shit after it was in there (because that dude will jump all over the smallest thing), plus decided to work in "social retard" at the same time I added the AP poll at the bottom. Never called anyone that before. It felt like the time.
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Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
FFS MBM enough with the modifications.
Fuck him. I'm tired of his shit.
I've not taken grumbler seriously since 2007, his biggest problem is he simply cannot accept that he's ever been wrong. In the world of normal human beings (which excludes grumbler) the fact is it's very easy to not know every single thing in the world. The only reason I know anything about the Big XII grant of rights is I was following Big XII realignment very seriously, and there were many articles at the time that described the grant of rights as a sort of legal iron curtain type deal that was going to make this most recent round of conference realignments a lot more permanent and solid than was the norm prior to this.
From a legal perspective it must be noted that signing away the grant of rights basically makes your broadcast rights the property of the Big XII. It's one thing to breach a contract to leave a conference, the only way to physically stop that would be to get a court to issue a specific performance order mandating you stay in the conference. Specific performance is rarely if ever mandated when monetary damages are considered a reasonable alternative, and it's easy to express in monetary terms how much a conference is hurt by losing a member and much easier to just tell the breaching team to pay up. But with a grant of rights it's a whole different ball game, you could break out of the Big XII and be playing in another conference the very next year--and all a court would ever force that school to do is pay damages. But to get your grant of rights back the school leaving has to
sue the Big XII to legally take back rights to their broadcasts, and that's a far different legal arrangement as you're basically asking a court to take something that belongs to party A and
force party A to sell it back to party B.
Even if they agreed to such a thing, the value of those grant of rights is essentially however much money the school would make off those rights over the contract period, so the damages would be massive and would (even if a court agreed to force the transfer back to the school) basically mean that school functionally would lose some decade or so of broadcast money in legal damages. If someone doesn't think that makes a conference far less shaky they are stupid. Grumbler is a douche and an asshole but he isn't actually retarded, if he actually knew what the GOR was he'd never have made that comment. That's why it's obvious until we called him out on it he had no idea what the GOR was (I'm sure he's unleashed some google-fu on it since then.)
Now, the way to handle grumbler isn't to lash out at him in a long angry post like you did. Just poke fun at him and his foolish, imbecilic ways periodically and make it clear you take him about as seriously as you do Raz when he's off his meds.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
More solid "in theory"? It's more solid period. It's a contract that gives their media rights and revenue to the Big 12 until 2025 if they leave. If the conference is still "shaky" to you after signing that, then no conferences are stable. Alternate option: Everyone who has said the GOR makes the conference stable, and it's a lot of people that don't just post on Languish for grins, for at least the next 13 years is right, and grumbler is wrong all by himself. Gee. I wonder which one it is.
Again, this is a contract. Contracts get broken all the time. The result of the broken contract is that the party which breaks the contract pays for the damages that the other contractors suffer. That's settled under law. The comments I have read about the assignment of rights is that it
should keep the conference together for the life of the contract. That sounds about right. That doesn't have anythig to do with my point though, which is that the ACC was the better choice for ND because it is more stable than the other option, the Big 12. Plus, the assignment of rights that you are getting your panties in a wad over didn't even exist when ND was making their decision.
QuoteFuck you, jerkoff. You get called an asshole and a douche and a jerkoff because you're being an asshole and a douche and a jerkoff. It would be pretty easy to understand if you weren't an apparent social retard. You were wrong about something and it got you all mad, so you went into punk mode after the mistake is simply pointed out. Again: Fuck you, jerkoff. If you wanted to talk about the possibility of teams somehow getting out of the GOR, that would be fine, and I'm down for that. Except you didn't do that. You didn't even mention the GOR because you didn't initially know about it and then figured it was just something that was always in their TV deals, or at least the one that was in effect two years ago. That's why you brought up the four teams leaving like it was still the same situation for everyone else who remained or came in as new members. It isn't. Shut up.
:cool: You are so cute when you get your panties all twisted up like that.
And, please, tell me more about what I know and why I post what I post. I love that stuff.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
Not much, just fixing typos and shit after it was in there (because that dude will jump all over the smallest thing)...
Can you provide an example of me jumping on someone because of a typo? Or did you just make that up?
Grandpa is restless again.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 16, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
From a legal perspective it must be noted that signing away the grant of rights basically makes your broadcast rights the property of the Big XII. It's one thing to breach a contract to leave a conference, the only way to physically stop that would be to get a court to issue a specific performance order mandating you stay in the conference. Specific performance is rarely if ever mandated when monetary damages are considered a reasonable alternative, and it's easy to express in monetary terms how much a conference is hurt by losing a member and much easier to just tell the breaching team to pay up. But with a grant of rights it's a whole different ball game, you could break out of the Big XII and be playing in another conference the very next year--and all a court would ever force that school to do is pay damages. But to get your grant of rights back the school leaving has to sue the Big XII to legally take back rights to their broadcasts, and that's a far different legal arrangement as you're basically asking a court to take something that belongs to party A and force party A to sell it back to party B.
The grant of rights/assignment of rights that the Big 12 schools have signed is the same as the Big Ten and Pac Ten/Twelve have used for years. What it means is that the school that leaves doesn't take its TV money with it. Clearly, it gives the conference a lot more leverage to make a departure expensive if it wants, which is why conferences want them. It doesn't make departure impossible, though.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 08:18:06 AM
Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems. Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.
No we signed a pact of steel. I do not see why stating the facts of the situation means we are butthurt. But you keep harping on the fact we just lost four teams. Um so I guess by your logic we were MORE stable in 2010 and LESS stable now? I thought stability meant the future not the past.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 05:18:22 PM
The grant of rights/assignment of rights that the Big 12 schools have signed is the same as the Big Ten and Pac Ten/Twelve have used for years. What it means is that the school that leaves doesn't take its TV money with it. Clearly, it gives the conference a lot more leverage to make a departure expensive if it wants, which is why conferences want them. It doesn't make departure impossible, though.
Wait so stability means it is impossible to depart? THen I guess no conference is stable. Way to move the goal posts.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 06:59:51 PM
No we signed a pact of steel. I do not see why stating the facts of the situation means we are butthurt. But you keep harping on the fact we just lost four teams. Um so I guess by your logic we were MORE stable in 2010 and LESS stable now? I thought stability meant the future not the past.
You signed a deal that is fairly typical for some major conferences, after just undergoing huge turmoil. I mentioned the four teams just once. Your 2010 stability to now stability logic makes no sense to me: wanna explain it further? My comparison was between the Big 12 going forward and the ACC, for purposes of explaining what might have been part of ND's reasoning.
Schools like ND think in the long term. What happens top you in 13 years? Does the Pact of Steel somehow outlive the assignment of rights agreement? Or, in 13 years, are we going to again see a situation where you have to sign a retroactive deal because it takes six months for you to agree to the deal you negotiated?
I've got nothing against the Big 12. I just don't get the namecalling when I point out that, to a school like ND, it doesn't look as stable as the ACC.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
Wait so stability means it is impossible to depart? THen I guess no conference is stable. Way to move the goal posts.
Wait; so stability means it is impossible to depart? THen I guess no conference is stable. Way to move the goal posts.
Can we all agree that Big East is less
Stable than Big XII. Ffs
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Can we all agree that Big East is less
Stable than Big XII. Ffs
:lol: No, because I like to watch MBM and Valmy flip the fuck out over the slightest criticism of anything Texas is even remotely connected to.
I knew couldn't count on you, you instigator.
I am merely a bemused spectator.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
:lol: No, because I like to watch MBM and Valmy flip the fuck out over the slightest criticism of anything Texas is even remotely connected to.
:lol: If you think calling someone a douche and a jerkoff after he responds to a perfectly reasonable post the way that he did is flipping the fuck out over something Texas is connected to (without any mention of Texas anywhere), I don't know what to tell you. OvB is right though. I should have just done what I normally do when that guy starts acting like a bitch and just scroll on by. vOv
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Can we all agree that Big East is less
Stable than Big XII. Ffs
Yes we can agree on that :P
How many years until UTSA gets their Big East invite as a replacement for some poached school? :hmm:
Just mention Appalachian state.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 07:27:48 PM
Wait; so stability means it is impossible to depart? THen I guess no conference is stable. Way to move the goal posts.
Ok so the why did you make that point if it had nothing to do with what you were saying?
You know what? Nevermind if you just have to think the BIg 12 is unstable for whatever reason regardless of the fact it is quite stable that is your business. What is true, and I think a major factor in ND's decision is that the Big 12 is not a strong academic conference while the ACC is and I believe that was brought up three separate times in the press conference just to underline the point. Also the Big 12 were not going to give ND access to the Big 12's bowls which was another deciding factor.
And in any case I didn't really want a half-kinda-sorta conference member anyway.
Quote from: grumbler on September 16, 2012, 08:24:34 AM
Don't disagree, but also don't know what a "Sophmore slumping Michigan" is.
If we can now move on to other matters actually related to play on the field :P
I had the impression last year Michigan was playing with their pants on fire but this year have been a little off the newness of the new coaching regime had worn off a bit. But actually what do I know really...all I see are Michigan scores I have not watched them play yet.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
the Big 12's bowls
Speaking of which, did you see Houston got the high bid for the Champions Bowl (is that the permanent name?)? Nice, easy road trip over there for a big time bowl game if they end up getting it.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Speaking of which, did you see Houston got the high bid for the Champions Bowl (is that the permanent name?)? Nice, easy road trip over there for a big time bowl game if they end up getting it.
Yeah? Well that is sweet. Not that I am ever likely to be able to afford tickets but...you know.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
Yeah? Well that is sweet. Not that I am ever likely to be able to afford tickets but...you know.
:lol: Yeah that's a good point. You just know those tickets are going to be horrendously expensive. Maybe we can win them instead. Be the 9th caller to some radio station or something.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
:lol: No, because I like to watch MBM and Valmy flip the fuck out over the slightest criticism of anything Texas is even remotely connected to.
:lol: If you think calling someone a douche and a jerkoff after he responds to a perfectly reasonable post the way that he did is flipping the fuck out over something Texas is connected to (without any mention of Texas anywhere), I don't know what to tell you.
I dunno, somehow I have the feeling you two wouldn't be nearly as passionate if the topic was, say, oh I don't know, a conference Texas wasn't in. :P
But that's merely conjecture. I'm too busy watching stable conferences to provide scientific evidence.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
I dunno, somehow I have the feeling you two wouldn't be nearly as passionate if the topic was, say, oh I don't know, a conference Texas wasn't in. :P
But that's merely conjecture. I'm too busy watching stable conferences to provide scientific evidence.
To be fair we are now really educated about how the conference works and its current state thanks to the hideous drama of the last two years. And I have been busy watching a stable conference for the past three weeks and vastly prefer it.
Secondly this is College Football. Everybody is a little nuts when it comes to their school...and you should know especially since you have about 20 schools you are a fan of.
Val's fangs come out!
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
Just mention Appalachian state.
There are some lines you just do not cross Brutus.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Secondly this is College Football. Everybody is a little nuts when it comes to their school...and you should know especially since you have about 20 schools you are a fan of.
:lol:
This is true.
:(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
I dunno, somehow I have the feeling you two wouldn't be nearly as passionate if the topic was, say, oh I don't know, a conference Texas wasn't in. :P
But that's merely conjecture. I'm too busy watching stable conferences to provide scientific evidence.
Nah, at least for me, it wasn't what the conversation was actually about, it's the way the dude went about it.
But it's cool that you're watching the Big 12. I'm sure they appreciate it.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 08:10:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
Just mention Appalachian state.
There are some lines you just do not cross Brutus.
I will gleefully toss paint bombs into this thread.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Secondly this is College Football. Everybody is a little nuts when it comes to their school...and you should know especially since you have about 20 schools you are a fan of.
:lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 08:11:52 PM
But it's cool that you're watching the Big 12. I'm sure they appreciate it.
I watch it all.
And you would to, if your alma mater's program's singular highlights are 1) Sean Landeta, and 2) the Kent State game.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 15, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
So on a side note I'll be down in Austin for the UT / WVU game in October, first time in Austin actually.
Sweet! I will probably not be able to play host much, this fall is crazy busy for me but let me know if you have any questions or if you want to meet up just for a drink or something.
Arizona is 3-0, and ranked. At least for a little while longer.
Why you guys are focusing on stuff like the Big 12 and their stability or lack thereof in light of that is simply beyond me.
In regards to 'Zona did they all start taking roids or was Stoops that shitty of a coach?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
I watch it all.
And you would to, if your alma mater's program's singular highlights are 1) Sean Landeta, and 2) the Kent State game.
Hey, I remember seeing Towson in the playoffs last year. They can't be that bad, right? Not on TV a lot though, I suppose.
Does anyone think Arizona has any chance to knock off Oregon in Eugene.
I...don't. Not really.
Arizona is clearly a better team than anyone though before the season began, but not THAT much better. Still crazy thin at key positions, and the defense is still suspect.
That is the team RichRod took over, right? He'll recruit midgets on D.
I see PAC-12 slugfest aka 55-42 score :P
Ed yeah RichRod is the new man down there.
Yep, you'll see midgets. Tiny wee players.
Quote from: Berkut on September 16, 2012, 08:26:40 PM
Does anyone think Arizona has any chance to knock off Oregon in Eugene.
I...don't. Not really.
Arizona is clearly a better team than anyone though before the season began, but not THAT much better. Still crazy thin at key positions, and the defense is still suspect.
Yes. I think they can. Oregon will probably win, sure, but Arizona has a shot imo.
Quote from: Berkut on September 16, 2012, 08:26:40 PM
Does anyone think Arizona has any chance to knock off Oregon in Eugene.
I...don't. Not really.
Arizona is clearly a better team than anyone though before the season began, but not THAT much better. Still crazy thin at key positions, and the defense is still suspect.
I dunno, man. Scott's performance can cover up a lot of weaknesses with that wide open offense, and they're already in the top 20 in points scored and have got to be up there in passing yards.
And OSU isn't pigeon food, either. That was a quality win., and pitching a shutout against anybody in Division I is nothing to sneeze at.
Just gotta catch Oregon on a bad day and take advantage of turnovers, and that's possible. They have to keep finding the end zone, though, because Oregon sure as shit will.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 16, 2012, 08:22:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
I watch it all.
And you would to, if your alma mater's program's singular highlights are 1) Sean Landeta, and 2) the Kent State game.
Hey, I remember seeing Towson in the playoffs last year. They can't be that bad, right? Not on TV a lot though, I suppose.
DONT YOU PATRONIZE ME
Tiger Pride :bleeding:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 08:34:46 PM
DONT YOU PATRONIZE ME
Tiger Pride :bleeding:
:lol:
I really do watch the 1AA playoffs though. They're the shit.
Georgia is also 3-0, though I'll refrain from getting my hopes up yet as the strongest team they've played is Missouri.
Quote from: Berkut on September 16, 2012, 08:26:40 PM
Does anyone think Arizona has any chance to knock off Oregon in Eugene.
I...don't. Not really.
Arizona is clearly a better team than anyone though before the season began, but not THAT much better. Still crazy thin at key positions, and the defense is still suspect.
Yeah I think they definitely have a shot.
Oregon hasn't really been tested all year. The one time they even came close, when Fresno State got within 16 in the 4th quarter, the Ducks had a nice 10 play drive to put the game away. The fact that they needed that drive against Fresno State, the best team they have played, says enough.
I hope they come out and boat race Arizona, but I haven't seen anything in the first three weeks, from either team, that would lead me to believe that would happen. The Ducks struggled against sub-par competition after jumping out to big leads in their first two games, they did better against Tennessee Tech on Saturday. Until I see differently I think any legitimate Pac-12 team has a shot to come into Eugene and win if they play very well and Arizona looks to be even better than that.
If I had to bet a paycheck on a straight up winner of the game I would take Oregon. I haven't seen the early line yet but I am guessing the point spread is too big and I would probably take Arizona and the points blind right now. I just can't wait to sit down and watch a Ducks game where there is any doubt about the outcome at all. It should be fun, Oregon/Arizona usually is.
Quote from: katmai on September 16, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Can we all agree that Big East is less
Stable than Big XII. Ffs
True, but ND is contributing to that instability! :lol:
What's Rich Rod doing on defense at 'zona? I know he hired his former DC from West Virginia, from what I remember Casteel had three good defenses in something like ten years. His first two years he was playing with Nehlen defensive recruits, and Nehlen always took defense seriously. Then I believe his last year under Holgorsen Casteel had a strong defense. But Rodriguez was infamous for cannibalizing defensive recruiting, and even over-recruiting small fast guys in hopes they would work out at the offensive skill positions...and then dumping the ones who didn't onto the defense.
Rodriguez's way created teams that could beat top-tier opponents (Oklahoma, Georgia in the Sugar / Fiesta bowls) but mostly just on the virtue of having extremely fast offenses that were difficult for anyone to stop. If a team like Oregon can be successful in the Pac-10 then most likely a Rodriguez style team could be as well, but it's very difficult to win games with that system against opponents who have dominating offensive line play and a strong power running game.
Quote from: Valmy on September 16, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
I had the impression last year Michigan was playing with their pants on fire but this year have been a little off the newness of the new coaching regime had worn off a bit. But actually what do I know really...all I see are Michigan scores I have not watched them play yet.
They are a better team overall this year, but lost some key players on both lines that will take some time to replace, and the schedule is a lot tougher this year. So, Michigan will have a better team but a worse record.
The weakness of the Big Ten this year may well mean that a 9-3 Michigan could win the conference. At 8-4, I doubt it, but it is barely possible (and, then again, there will be several 8-4 B10 teams, so the 8-4 champ might not be Michigan).
I think you will be surprised at how good Denard Robinson is at passing this year. He's really only made two bad throws so far.
Quote from: Berkut on September 16, 2012, 08:18:58 PM
Arizona is 3-0, and ranked. At least for a little while longer.
The Zona defense looks better than I thought it would.
QuoteWhy you guys are focusing on stuff like the Big 12 and their stability or lack thereof in light of that is simply beyond me.
Me, too. Especially all the name-calling and strawman-building.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 17, 2012, 06:12:42 AM
What's Rich Rod doing on defense at 'zona? I know he hired his former DC from West Virginia, from what I remember Casteel had three good defenses in something like ten years. His first two years he was playing with Nehlen defensive recruits, and Nehlen always took defense seriously. Then I believe his last year under Holgorsen Casteel had a strong defense. But Rodriguez was infamous for cannibalizing defensive recruiting, and even over-recruiting small fast guys in hopes they would work out at the offensive skill positions...and then dumping the ones who didn't onto the defense.
Rodriguez's way created teams that could beat top-tier opponents (Oklahoma, Georgia in the Sugar / Fiesta bowls) but mostly just on the virtue of having extremely fast offenses that were difficult for anyone to stop. If a team like Oregon can be successful in the Pac-10 then most likely a Rodriguez style team could be as well, but it's very difficult to win games with that system against opponents who have dominating offensive line play and a strong power running game.
Teams like Oklahoma State you mean?
I don't know about RickRod was "infamous" for, but his 3-3-5 defense is certainly predicated on the idea that he wants speed over size everywhere but on the defensive line.
If his defense means Arizona will only be able to go 10-2 and win our conference and contend now and again for a title, but will struggle against teams with a power running game, I think that is a sacrifice I might be willing to accept.
I didn't follow Rodriguez at Michigan in terms of recruiting or anything (I don't even know who his DC was at UM), but at WVU he was widely known to take players who played CB or safety in high school and whom the defensive recruiting staff had recruited to play defense and putting them into the offense as slot receivers or etc. He was also known to basically enforce no real discipline or anything on the defensive coaching staff in terms of recruiting.
By and large when Holgorsen took over the defensive staff had barely changed since Don Nehlen retired in 2000, and there were some serious problems on that staff. For example Bill Kirelawich basically refused to recruit at all, his position was that his job was to coach and not to recruit, he was like 65 years old and word was he cared a lot more about spending time with his grandchildren than going on the recruiting trail. He had been with WVU for like 25+ years, and there were several guys on the defensive staff who "fell into that mold."
Holgorsen was apparently not getting along great with Casteel, and from what I've heard it was mostly because Holgorsen more or less felt a staff that wasn't willing to recruit had no place in FBS coaching. It's telling that Rodriguez, who is pretty well known for being an intense taskmaster type and who relentlessly recruited offense would allow a defensive staff like that to serve under him for his entire tenure at WVU.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 3-3-5 as a scheme, Lou Holtz won the national championship in 1988 running the 3-3-5. Part of the beauty of the 3-3-5 is it can effectively be a 4-3 or a 3-4 as needed, but the problem at least in WVU under Rodriguez with the 3-3-5 is they didn't have any viable bodies to put in as a 4th down lineman when they actually wanted to function more as a 4-3. Defensive line recruiting and performance in general were problems the entire time Rodriguez coached at West Virginia, CB and safety play was also an area of grave concern at several points. (For some years WVU essentially could be passed on at will..check everything but the first quarter of the 2005 Sugar Bowl when Georgia literally threw at will, or any of the games WVU played against Scotty McBrien lead UMD squads or Tyler Palko lead Pitt squads.) About the only bright spot I remember on defense during Rodriguez time at WVU was their linebackers, I used to always go to the VT / WVU game when it came to Blacksburg (I'm one of the few VT supporters that also likes the Mountaineers and UVA...) and one year when WVU won in Rodriguez 2nd or 3rd year it was basically entirely because of some extremely solid linebackers, but aside from that I've always remembered defense being very porous under Rodriguez.
Also...not sure what you mean about Oklahoma State as they aren't in the Pac-10, but they would fit that same mold as Oregon in terms of being a team that will do really well in their respective league just based on pure offensive ability.
I was just noting that OkSt is known for having excellent offensive lineman and a very good running game.
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't try to just pound the ball down Arizona's throat more, rather than keep throwing it with a very talented true freshman who was bound to make mistakes.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 17, 2012, 08:03:44 AM
I used to always go to the VT / WVU game when it came to Blacksburg (I'm one of the few VT supporters that also likes the Mountaineers and UVA...) and one year when WVU won in Rodriguez 2nd or 3rd year it was basically entirely because of some extremely solid linebackers, but aside from that I've always remembered defense being very porous under Rodriguez.
I saw one WVU-VaTech game I saw in Blacksburg, back in 1988. Those games were always ugly & had ugly scores (12-10, 13-7, etc.). WVU won 22-10 that year.
Anyway, it seemed like during the Rodriguez era at WVU, the defense was usually anchored on one or two extremely talented guys. If the other team's offense was smart enough to isolate those guys, the defense was screwed.
Quote from: Berkut on September 17, 2012, 08:16:10 AM
I was just noting that OkSt is known for having excellent offensive lineman and a very good running game.
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't try to just pound the ball down Arizona's throat more, rather than keep throwing it with a very talented true freshman who was bound to make mistakes.
Pretty much any team can shut down the running game of any other team if they want to; the problem is that they thus make themselves vulnerable to the pass, if the opposing team has a decent passing attack.
OkStU didn't have that passing attack, and so didn't win. Ditto for MSU against ND.
I think you will see defenses like Arizona and ND look much less spectacular against balanced offenses.
Arizona gave up 600 yards to Okie State. I don't think that qualifies as "spectacular". Their offense in general was very well balanced, I thought. I just think when they got down they stopped trying to control the game, and instead tried to "strike" at Arizona to take the momentum back.
The Arizona defense gave up a LOT of big plays, but managed just enough big stops to let their offense dominate the game.
Quote from: Berkut on September 17, 2012, 06:27:25 PM
Arizona gave up 600 yards to Okie State. I don't think that qualifies as "spectacular". Their offense in general was very well balanced, I thought. I just think when they got down they stopped trying to control the game, and instead tried to "strike" at Arizona to take the momentum back.
The Arizona defense gave up a LOT of big plays, but managed just enough big stops to let their offense dominate the game.
I looked at the box score again, and that wasn't the box score I had thought was from that game. OSU passed plenty well enough.
Don't tell OvB or MBM that I admitted I was wrong, though; their whole worldview is built around the canard that I never do that.
Speaking of Oklahoma State, Wes Lunt is apparently out for two weeks with some sort of knee injury. The close up I saw of it from when he was laying on the looked rather nasty.
Quote from: grumbler on September 17, 2012, 07:15:53 PM
Don't tell OvB or MBM that I admitted I was wrong, though; their whole worldview is built around the canard that I never do that.
:lol: You really need to get over yourself. No ones "worldview" is built around anything you do. You're just some dude on a message board who acts like an asshole at nearly every opportunity.
E: Oh I forgot. Wisconsin police of some sort have arrested three Wisconsin students for that attack on Montee Ball during the off season. They were just looking for football players to attack.
Quote3 students charged in attack on Badgers' Montee Ball
MADISON, Wis. -- Three University of Wisconsin students have been charged in attack on Badgers' running back Montee Ball.
Wendell Venerable, Robert Wilks and Deonte Wilson appeared in Dane County Circuit Court on Monday where a judge continued their signature bonds. A criminal complaint says Ball was kicked and punched Aug. 1 as he walked in Madison. The complaint says a friend interrupted the attack when she threw herself over Ball on the ground.
Prosecutors say witnesses identified the three men, all 21, by looking at surveillance video from a nearby apartment building. WKOW-TV (http://tinyurl.com/8ue6bxx ) reports witnesses told investigators they heard the attackers say they planned to target football players in retaliation for a previous fight at a party when one of them was hurt.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20212900/students-charged-in-attack-on-badgers-montee-ball
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 17, 2012, 07:48:09 PM
:lol: You really need to get over yourself. No ones "worldview" is built around anything you do. You're just some dude on a message board who acts like an asshole at nearly every opportunity.
:lol: Somebody woke up on the rag, again, today! You need to learn to laugh a little bit and pull that pole out of your ass. I was obviously ludicrously overstating for comic effect.
E: Why am I responding to this dude about this garbage anymore? Fuck off, grumbler. You were wrong, and you need to learn to deal with it in a better way. That's all there is to it, and all that will be said about it, by me at least, anymore.
NCAA News:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/20216413/bcs-commissioners-meet-to-discuss-revenue-distribution-playoff
QuoteBCS commissioners meet to discuss revenue distribution, playoff
BCS commissioners meet as a group for the first time since assembling a playoff beginning Tuesday in Chicago.
On the agenda is how to distribute that financial windfall from a playoff. Two sources have already confirmed to CBSSports.com that conferences involved in the Rose, Champions and Orange bowls will keep all the revenue in years those bowls don't pass through the national semifinals.
To be determined, the other three bowls in the six-bowl playoff rotation.
The Rose recently signed a deal for $80 million per year with ESPN. The Champions Bowl, created by the SEC and Big 12, is expected to get the same number. The site for the game is expected to be finalized in early October according to SEC commissioner Mike Slive. The Orange is expected to get something less than $80 million.
ESPN reported Monday that the Orange Bowl is close to a deal that would match the ACC champion against either Notre Dame or a team from the Big Ten or SEC.
The three-day meeting is being held in conjunction with the Collegiate Commissioners Association meetings at the Big Ten offices in Park Ridge, Ill.
$40 million for the Big XII for just the TV eh? Nice.
Quote from: Valmy on September 18, 2012, 06:41:28 PM
$40 million for the Big XII for just the TV eh? Nice.
Yeah, not bad at all.
The Toads have lost their leading RB for the season:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/college-football-rapidreports/20249491/knee-injury-ends-season-for-tcu's-leading-rusher-waymon-james
QuoteTCU's offense sputtered in last week's win over Kansas, but it suffered a bigger blow in the fourth quarter against the Jayhawks, as the school confirmed leading rusher Waymon James is out for the season with a knee injury.
The news was first reported by Stefan Stevenson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. James, who was also the team's leading rushing in 2011, had gained 168 yards through TCU's first two games, including 99 rushing yards in the 20-6 win over the Jayhawks.
James' injury did not appear to be induced by contact, as he fell to the ground after planting to make a cut. Initially, it appeared the injury was not serious -- according to Stevenson, Horned Frogs coach Gary Patterson indicated James would be a game-time decision this week against Virginia -- but Wednesday, the school announced the injury would keep the junior out for the year.
Although losing the team's leading rusher is hardly ideal for Patterson and TCU -- especially as it has only Big 12 games remaining after this week's game against Virginia -- there is another experienced running back ready to take over.
Senior Matthew Tucker rushed 19 times for 100 yards in the team's first two games. His 5.3 yards-per-carry average is considerably lower than James' 9.9, but Tucker does have the ability to hit for the occasional big play, as he had a 29-yard run Saturday.
"In my profession you can't worry about the guy that goes down," Patterson said at his Tuesday press conference, according to Stevenson. "It's got to be about the next guy needs to step up. Matthew had the best spring and summer of all of them. He's been a great running back for us for a while."
True freshman B.J. Catalon (15 carries for 61 yards this season) and senior Aundre Dean (eight attempts, 29 yards) could also figure into the rotation with James out for the season.
If Patterson doesn't have as much faith in Tucker, Catalon and Dean to carry the load, it could alter TCU's run-pass balance, which has been one of the team's strengths this season. The Horned Frogs have passed for 60 percent of their 1,018 yards of offense and run for the other 40. Replacing James' production, then, could fall on the shoulders of QB Casey Pachall, who leads the nation in passer efficiency rating (242.37).
The photo amuses me:
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It's like he's not even interested in the guy he stiff arming. Poor Kansas.
Yeah TCU's entire roster has imploded. 19 Scholarship athletes injured, suspended, or kicked off the team. The Big 12 is going to get a shadow of the Froggie juggernaut we were all told to fear.
The spread in the WVU-Maryland game is 27.5. If I were a betting man, my gut would tell me to take the points. WVU blew out Marshall and JMU, and now they're facing a team from a real conference. But then again, I do tend to hedge :ph34r:
Quote from: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
and now they're facing a team from a real conference.
No, they're not.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
and now they're facing a team from a real conference.
No, they're not.
I'd say any (non-Big East) BCS conference would qualify as such.
Quote from: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
and now they're facing a team from a real conference.
No, they're not.
I'd say any (non-Big East) BCS conference would qualify as such.
It's not about what conference a team's in, though--it's about whether or not you're facing a real team. Kentucky isn't a real team at this point, even though they're in the SEC. Boise State, despite what the haters say, appears to still be a real team, even if the Mountain West is barely a real conference.
Maryland hasn't made much of a case for being a real team yet this year. Granted, lots of teams at this point still haven't played any other good teams, but good teams don't beat William and Mary by just 7-6.
Quote from: dps on September 20, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
It's not about what conference a team's in, though--it's about whether or not you're facing a real team. Kentucky isn't a real team at this point, even though they're in the SEC. Boise State, despite what the haters say, appears to still be a real team, even if the Mountain West is barely a real conference.
Maryland hasn't made much of a case for being a real team yet this year. Granted, lots of teams at this point still haven't played any other good teams, but good teams don't beat William and Mary by just 7-6.
Alright, FFS. They're playing a team more real than the two they played in their first two games. Happy??
:P
That's still up for debate a bit. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
That's still up for debate a bit. :P
:console: It's a fun rivalry. And it's the only real rivalry WVU has left.
The BYU - Boise game...isn't really very good right now. It's also on that goddamn blue field, making it even more difficult to watch.
Quote from: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 05:43:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
That's still up for debate a bit. :P
:console: It's a fun rivalry. And it's the only real rivalry WVU has left.
Actually, I don't know why they kept it. OK, they're going to play a 9-game conference schedule, they're going to play Marshall (though I'm not sure about that going forward), and they're going to play a FCS patsy. That leaves one more game to schedule, and I can see wanting to keep that one a traditional opponent. But why Maryland? Pitt would have been the obvious choice, but if not Pitt, why not Syracuse or Rutgers? Heck, to me East Carolina is more of a traditional opponent for WVU than Maryland is.
I think I saw somewhere (here, maybe?) that the WVU - Marshall series wasn't continuing after this year.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 20, 2012, 09:15:15 PM
I think I saw somewhere (here, maybe?) that the WVU - Marshall series wasn't continuing after this year.
That's a shame. Best scene in
We Are Marshall, too. Bobby's good Christian peeps.
Yeah here we go: http://westvirginia.scout.com/a.z?s=159&p=3&blipid=1966
Looks like the Terpies are staying, ECU is on there 2013-2018, and Marshall is going. Hey there's Towson in 2014 Seedy.
Yeah wtf MBM that is my job.
:lol:
Watching BYU-Boise State and just noticed that the Mountain West Conference logo on the field looks a lot like the current Doctor Who logo.
It's easy to start noticing things like that when the game is getting slowed down by about 10 billion penalty flags.
:D Baylor is getting slapped around early in the game. Hope ULM can keep it up.
E: Exchanged TDs, but Baylor is inside the 1 now. 4th and goal and going for it, as they should.
Boooo they made it. 21-14 now. Don't be running out of gas already, Warhawks.
21-21 now, and ESPN missed it during a commercial break following a turnover. 48 yard TD pass. Dude was wide open along the sideline it looked like. Disaster of a quarter for ULM, but with more than 5 minutes left, maybe they can turn it around (or it could get worse).
I heard on the radio today that out of 120 FBS (Division 1) schools, Oregon's strength of schedule so far is 150 (30 FCS schools have harder schedules). :lol: Fucking Kansas State for pussying out of the game they had scheduled this year.
Watching the Baylor game. A bit buzzed from Oktoberfest. Hope Baylor is this easy next week.
Welp. ULM just couldn't quite hold on.
Dummy.
QuoteA South Carolina police officer has been fired after posting details of a traffic stop of Clemson coach Dabo Swinney on a University of South Carolina message board.
CPl. Michael McClatchy was fired Monday for using company equipment to detail his version of the events, Pickens (S.C.) Police Department chief Rodney Gregory said in a statement Friday.
On Sept. 3, McClatchy stopped a vehicle driven by Swinney for speeding, according to Gregory, who said the Clemson coach was traveling 63 mph in a 35 mph zone.
Swinney told McClatchy that he was late for his radio show at the BI-LO supermarket in Pickens, where he was pulled over. The officer cited Swinney for speeding, but reduced the penalty to a minimum fine and points, according to Gregory.
Last Friday, McClatchy posted his details of the events at 247sports.com in order to "clear the air for all involved."
In the posting, McClatchy said he believed Swinney "thought he would be excused for the violation and continue to his (radio) appointment." He also said Swinney and his brother, who was a passenger, were asked to have a seat in the vehicle but did not.
Swinney's brother, a retired Alabama police officer, according to the Pickens County Courier, asked that McClatchy take into consideration his more than 30 years of experience as a cop, McClatchy wrote on 247sports.com.
McClatchy added that after he gave Swinney a citation, the Clemson coach gave him "what I would call an unfriendly glare, shook his head and proceeded to enter Bi-lo."
The posting eventually was taken off the website, according to the Courier.
Gregory said both McClatchy and Swinney acted in a professional manner during the incident but that McClatchy was fired for violation of city computer policy, violation of code of ethics and violation of general orders.
McClatchy recently had been promoted, according to Gregory.
The police chief added that Swinney paid his citation and apologized for being involved in the situation.
Swinney and No. 10 Clemson visit No. 4 Florida State on Saturday night.
This makes me wish I was a Michigan fan.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/the-most-scientifically-perfect-football-hype-vide
What a cool video.
Michigan's got a wicked A/V Department.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
That's still up for debate a bit. :P
That was a tough game, as I thought it would be. Surprised both QBs made it out alive.
Until the Terps can manage to recruit and keep home state talent like Tavon Austin, they'll keep losing.
Fucker went to Dunbar, for fuck's sake.
Fire up Chips
Oh yeah. UTSA: 4-0.
Watched a little bit of the Gamecock's QB set a school record with 20 consecutive completions. I think he ended 20/21.
Quote from: Berkut on September 22, 2012, 09:22:27 AM
This makes me wish I was a Michigan fan.
It's not too late. :lol:
I am a Michigan fan and an Arizona fan. You can be, too.
Then, you could properly enjoy another mgoblogger vid, known colloquially as "yakety sacks, part 2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOtDB1SzSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOtDB1SzSA)
That was the second of the 38-0 Michigan blowouts, in 2007. In the ultimate irony, this was the Michigan team that had lost to Appalachian State.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
Michigan's got a wicked A/V Department.
True. The "This is Michigan" vids were pretty good, and officially produced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejJqfqMWiB0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejJqfqMWiB0)
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAscY4gm6OA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAscY4gm6OA&feature=related)
The one Berkut linked to was a fan vid, though.
Here's another fan vid I like, because it is a Bo vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=7KOwLaCf0y0&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=7KOwLaCf0y0&feature=endscreen)
Bo was god.
Ohio state was lackadaisical in thier win against UAB.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 22, 2012, 06:55:50 PM
Ohio state was lackadaisical in thier win against UAB.
Imagine that.
The fall will be hard.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 22, 2012, 06:55:50 PM
Ohio state was lackadaisical in thier win against UAB.
Imagine that.
The fall will be hard.
Embrace your inner Brutus.
Wolverines sucking hard, yet only down 10
No, by all means, please show more AFC Championship game highlights.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
No, by all means, please show more AFC Championship game highlights.
:lol: Which game are you watching that is showing that?
Halftime of golden domers vs grumblers
Quote from: sbr on September 22, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
No, by all means, please show more AFC Championship game highlights.
:lol: Which game are you watching that is showing that?
It's casting a pallor upon this incredible spiritual experience.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 22, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
No, by all means, please show more AFC Championship game highlights.
:lol: Which game are you watching that is showing that?
It's casting a pallor upon this incredible spiritual experience.
What's the connection with the AFC CG?
Quote from: sbr on September 22, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
What's the connection with the AFC CG?
Fucking NBC broadcast. Cross pollination with Sunday Night Football.
At least there's no Brent Musburger.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 22, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
What's the connection with the AFC CG?
Fucking NBC broadcast. Cross pollination with Sunday Night Football.
Oh right.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 22, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
What's the connection with the AFC CG?
Fucking NBC broadcast. Cross pollination with Sunday Night Football.
At least there's no Brent Musburger.
Believe me now that NBC is the worst network for sports coverage?
The Beavers' win over Wisconsin is looking much less fluke-y. OSU went down to LA and beat what seemed to be a very good UCLA team in the Rose Bowl, and the Big-10 continues to suck donkey cock.
To hell with Brian Kelly and Notre Dame.
Quote from: derspiess on September 22, 2012, 09:30:20 PM
To hell with Brian Kelly and Notre Dame.
Game's not even over, man. Chillax. Still plenty of time for God to abandon them.
To hell with Kelly in any case.
Aaand I'm switching over to the Oklahoma-K State game.
Not me, Zona v Ducks !
:pope: :pope: :pope:
Sooners down by 11. Loving it.
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
Not me, Zona v Ducks !
Clemson-FSU still have plenty of unfinished business.
Quote from: derspiess on September 22, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Sooners down by 11. Loving it.
Can't stand K-State, but fuck the Switzers.
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
Not me, Zona v Ducks !
Your game needs more GUS JOHNSON :contract:
31-35 going into the 4th? Nothing snoozing about this game.
But they lack the snazzy uniforms of Nike U. What combination could they be wearing tonight!!
They're wearing the exact same uniforms Deion Sanders and Michael Dean Perry would be wearing if it were 1987. Just like it should be.
I never want to see WVU's gray uniforms again.
All you old school Bucs fans: James Wilder's kid is better than the old man ever was. That's saying something.
Quote from: derspiess on September 22, 2012, 10:04:55 PM
I never want to see WVU's gray uniforms again.
lol, I was going to ask you about those. Those were so bad, I kept having to stop myself from hitting the side of the TV and fucking with the rabbit ears. I mean, there's gray, and then there's WTF IS WRONG WITH THE TV gray.
Now that was a fucking pop.
Maybe if Arizona stays out of the red zone, they could score from a distance?
Hey seedy, might want to call Berkie. Make sure his head hasn't exploded.
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Hey seedy, might want to call Berkie. Make sure his head hasn't exploded.
I'm pretty sure it already exploded on the second trip into the red zone; the fourth probably took care of the rest of the body.
Sorry Berkie
I'm not really sure what to think about that Oregon/Arizona game. The Ducks played their best game against the best team they have played so far, but ... I'm still not sure.
Arizona had their chance to play to get a lead and keep the pressure on. That first quarter was totally squandered by the Cats.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2012, 09:06:48 AM
Arizona had their chance to play to get a lead and keep the pressure on. That first quarter was totally squandered by the Cats.
I would hesitate to say that it wasn't that Oregon won it so much as Arizona lost it, because Oregon has the offense to have been able to comeback, but Arizona could have been up 28-0.
EDIT: Well, that's probably not exactly true. The reason that Arizona was in the red zone so much in the 1st quarter is that they weren't scoring when they were there, but they were leaving Oregon pinned deep in their own territory and then getting the ball back in good field position. If Arizona had scored on that first trip to the red zone, they may well have not had it in the red zone 3 more times in the quarter.
You know, that first half was a lot harder to take than the second believe it or not.
Hell, going into half time I was thinking "Shit, down 13-0 against the Ducks in Eugene after disaster after disaster isn't really that bad..."
The wheels just completely came off in the second half of course.
I've had a LOT more frustrating games, to be honest. Arizona got crushed, but it may seem like a weird thing to say, but the game was a lot closer than the score.
Arizona does not have the depth or maturity to hang in a game like that. But the defense held the Dcusk much longer than anyone could have reasonably expected. This team is going to win some games down the stretch. They aren't going to be great, but they will be better than expected.
Scott came back down to earth though, didn't he? Yikes, in a big way.
If anyone finds my voice please return it....I lost it somewhere in Tallahassee Saturday night
It was the most exhausting game I've been to in years
I'm trying to reconcile my anger at WVU losing a spot in the AP poll with my gut feeling that they probably are a little overrated.
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
I'm trying to reconcile my anger at WVU losing a spot in the AP poll with my gut feeling that they probably are a little overrated.
wvu deserves disdain and cynicism after cancelling its home and home with fsu forcing fsu to have to schedule savannah state at the last minute
Quote from: Rasputin on September 24, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
I'm trying to reconcile my anger at WVU losing a spot in the AP poll with my gut feeling that they probably are a little overrated.
wvu deserves disdain and cynicism after cancelling its home and home with fsu forcing fsu to have to schedule savannah state at the last minute
:lol: That would have been one hell of a game. Over/under would have been like 120.
Dunno if this was posted already, but: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1310558-college-footballs-hottest-fan-bases-of-2012-ranking-all-120-schools
WVU ranks #3 which is a bit generous but I do like the description:
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Sure, this West Virginia girl may look harmless, but she's really just 30 minutes away from burning a couch.
Note to self: Do not even cheat on a West Virginia fan.
QuoteDunno if this was posted already, but: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1310558-college-footballs-hottest-fan-bases-of-2012-ranking-all-120-schools
It is good for Texas to be #1 in something related to College Football again :)
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on September 24, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
I'm trying to reconcile my anger at WVU losing a spot in the AP poll with my gut feeling that they probably are a little overrated.
wvu deserves disdain and cynicism after cancelling its home and home with fsu forcing fsu to have to schedule savannah state at the last minute
:lol: That would have been one hell of a game. Over/under would have been like 120.
:)
heck in the last 5 games wvu and fsu have combined for 119 points against clemson alone
It is the Big 12's fault isn't it? Since they only give us three OOC games to enjoy such fabulous match ups as Texas vs. Ole Miss.
Quote from: Rasputin on September 24, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
I'm trying to reconcile my anger at WVU losing a spot in the AP poll with my gut feeling that they probably are a little overrated.
wvu deserves disdain and cynicism after cancelling its home and home with fsu forcing fsu to have to schedule savannah state at the last minute
Same thing happened with Kansas State and Oregon. K State was supposed to come to Eugene week 3 but pussed out; that would have been a really fun game. :mad:
What do you expect from such an unstable league.
Quote from: Valmy on September 24, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
It is the Big 12's fault isn't it? Since they only give us three OOC games to enjoy such fabulous match ups as Texas vs. Ole Miss.
It's not like 4 OOC games automatically means amazing matchups are scheduled. The fourth one probably would have been Rice or something.
E: Nice job locking it during your feeble troll attempt, kat. :D
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 24, 2012, 06:00:37 PM
It's not like 4 OOC games automatically means amazing matchups are scheduled.
Well I guess if you think Texas vs. Ole Miss was an amazing matchup. It might have been ten years ago though.
Quote from: Valmy on September 25, 2012, 12:01:25 AM
Well I guess if you think Texas vs. Ole Miss was an amazing matchup. It might have been ten years ago though.
:huh: Eh?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 25, 2012, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 25, 2012, 12:01:25 AM
Well I guess if you think Texas vs. Ole Miss was an amazing matchup. It might have been ten years ago though.
:huh: Eh?
I was being sarcastic by calling Texas vs. Ole Miss a fabulous match up see :P
Maybe I should have chosen Kansas vs. Rice.
Quote from: Valmy on September 25, 2012, 12:11:19 AM
I was being sarcastic by calling Texas vs. Ole Miss a fabulous match up see :P
Maybe I should have chosen Kansas vs. Rice.
I know. I pointed out that a fourth OOC game would still likely be shitty (and filled by Rice), since...well for the most part, OOC games are shitty.
My personal (just as unscientific as the rankings from Bleacher Report) rankings of college hotness would put basically "all of the Boston colleges" at dead last, and UGA and Florida probably had the best looking across the board.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 25, 2012, 11:17:01 AM
My personal (just as unscientific as the rankings from Bleacher Report) rankings of college hotness would put basically "all of the Boston colleges" at dead last, and UGA and Florida probably had the best looking across the board.
Arizona State seems to have some quality "talent" as well, at least just from what I've seen on the 'tubes. Reports from Ole Miss by Texas fans who made the trip were pretty favorable too.
The Arizona schools are definitely first and second. Oregon is up there too.
Was also surprised my alma mater was as highly ranked as it was...in the late 80s at least attractive women did not go to West Point. :D
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 25, 2012, 11:21:13 AM
The Arizona schools are definitely first and second. Oregon is up there too.
I'm an East Coast guy, so can't really speak to campuses out west.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 25, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
I'm an East Coast guy, so can't really speak to campuses out west.
Arizona and especially Arizona State are like really big ass magnets, seemingly able to pull the bestest bunnies from California, Colorado and Texas.
That ASU campus is a big steaming hot bowl of ass soup. Woof.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 25, 2012, 11:17:01 AM
My personal (just as unscientific as the rankings from Bleacher Report) rankings of college hotness would put basically "all of the Boston colleges" at dead last, and UGA and Florida probably had the best looking across the board.
There certainly were a lot of lookers at UGA when I attended. However, I find their cheerleading squad of the past couple seasons disappointing, it always seems like their opponents have more beauties.
Quote from: Valmy on September 24, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
It is the Big 12's fault isn't it? Since they only give us three OOC games to enjoy such fabulous match ups as Texas vs. Ole Miss.
Ultimately, it's the ACC's fault. If they hadn't been poaching teams from the Big East, WVU probably would have been content to stay there, and wouldn't have gone to the Big 12.
That's only partly tongue-in-cheek, in that it's probably literally true. However, I wouldn't so much assign "fault" to conferences as to say that the conferences that had pro-active commissioners came out ahead of the last couple rounds of realignment. If you want to assign blame, blame John Marinatto.
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 12:26:39 PM
However, I wouldn't so much assign "fault" to conferences as to say that the conferences that had pro-active commissioners came out ahead of the last couple rounds of realignment.
I don't know. The PAC was pretty pro-active and they ended up having to take Colorado and Utah.
Quote from: Valmy on September 25, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 12:26:39 PM
However, I wouldn't so much assign "fault" to conferences as to say that the conferences that had pro-active commissioners came out ahead of the last couple rounds of realignment.
I don't know. The PAC was pretty pro-active and they ended up having to take Colorado and Utah.
Both were reasonable geographic fits, and Utah at least is a decent football program. Makes more sense that WVU in the Big 12 geographically, and even Colorado is probably a better football program than some of the schools the Big East is getting. I mean, Memphis? Really? When ECU is actually in the east, and would probably would have killed to move go from Conference USA to the Big East? Sure, East Carolina isn't a great football program, and they don't really help in other sports, but, hey, this is all about football and ECU is certainly better in football than Memphis. Heck, adding Memphis makes dicking around for months waiting on Villanova to decide if they wanted to move from FCS to FBS (ugh, still hate those acronyms) look like a good idea.
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
and even Colorado is probably a better football program than some of the schools the Big East is getting.
Heh well maybe in some abstract sense but not in the literal sense this year. Memphis would probably beat them easily.
Anyway I was making a joke about how badly both those schools have done so far.
Utah looked really bad last week (well, going by the final score; I didn't see the game) but overall for the year they've been mediocre at worst, and were pretty good last year.
If Colorado and Memphis were playing this weekend, I suspect that Colorado would be at least a 10 point favorite.
Well maybe I shouldn't make fun of Colorado so much now that they have finally won a conference game.
Time to make fun of the team they beat.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 25, 2012, 11:21:13 AM
The Arizona schools are definitely first and second. Oregon is up there too.
I'm a native Oregonian but I think Oregon is overrepresented in these lists. UofO's cheer/dance/spirit squad is a scholarship squad (one of the very few in the country I think), and that lets them pull talent that is probably a bit over their heads. That said in general I prefer west coast girls over east coast, with the south taking the top spot.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 25, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
I'm an East Coast guy, so can't really speak to campuses out west.
Arizona and especially Arizona State are like really big ass magnets, seemingly able to pull the bestest bunnies from California, Colorado and Texas.
That ASU campus is a big steaming hot bowl of ass soup. Woof.
Arizona gets so much more than its fair share it isn't even funny. I miss it so very much.
ASU? I guess, if you like your chicks tatted up and you exercise a stringent regime of prophylactic anti-biotics.
Hey my sister went to ASU!
Quote from: sbr on September 25, 2012, 02:06:16 PM
with the south taking the top spot.
Southern women are like Russian women. Super hot when young but with an early expiration date.
:D true
So, not a surprise really, but Notre Dame has notified Michigan that they won't continue their series past 2014.
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
So, not a surprise really, but Notre Dame has notified Michigan that they won't continue their series past 2014.
That's a real shame.
If only the big ten were stable :(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
So, not a surprise really, but Notre Dame has notified Michigan that they won't continue their series past 2014.
That's a real shame.
Yeah, though it isn't as long-time a rivalry as I thought. Turns out that they've only met 40 times.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: dps on September 25, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
So, not a surprise really, but Notre Dame has notified Michigan that they won't continue their series past 2014.
That's a real shame.
Completely coincidentally 2015 is when they start their series with Texas.
Hmmmm...Thanksgiving? Interesting.
Quote from: Valmy on September 25, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Completely coincidentally 2015 is when they start their series with Texas.
Hmmmm...Thanksgiving? Interesting.
Hey do you know if they're travelling up to Ft Worth for Thanksgiving next year, or if they're playing Tech or someone else at home? I want to say I read that they were going to be playing at home again, but I can't find where I saw/think I saw that, so....
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
If only the big ten were stable :(
[MBM] Asshole cocksucker motherfucker ignorant douchebag! [/MBM]
I think ND is realizing that they can't play more than 2 decent teams per year and still get into big bowls, and the Michigan game, while a classic, doesn't serve ND's interests as much as the guarantee of one game a year on each of the coasts.
ND is better-served by their abandonment of their old, traditional scheduling in favor of tactical scheduling. Fewer, but better-placed, big games is their way forward.
Quote from: grumbler on September 26, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
[MBM] Asshole cocksucker motherfucker ignorant douchebag! [/MBM]
Hey look, you
still don't get it! Stunning! :lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 20, 2012, 09:15:15 PM
I think I saw somewhere (here, maybe?) that the WVU - Marshall series wasn't continuing after this year.
I have mixed feelings. As a life-long WVU fan that attended Marshall for a couple years, I'd like to see the series continue. But as good a game as it is for Marshall, it's not really in WVU's best interests to keep the game.
For football at least WVU-Marshall is a non-rivalry. Nobody outside the state pays attention, and it's a much bigger deal for Marshall fans than it is for WVU fans.
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
I have mixed feelings. As a life-long WVU fan that attended Marshall for a couple years, I'd like to see the series continue. But as good a game as it is for Marshall, it's not really in WVU's best interests to keep the game.
I think WVU has more than enough games on its schedule to compete for a BCS bid, and I think Marshall is a great tune-up game early in the season for them (after Maryland, of course).
QuoteFor football at least WVU-Marshall is a non-rivalry. Nobody outside the state pays attention, and it's a much bigger deal for Marshall fans than it is for WVU fans.
I disagree; people outside the state know about it. :) And while more in-state kids go to play for Marshall than WVU, who recruits nationally, it's an important game to the kids that played with and against one another in high school.
I think it's a good thing, and a shame it's ending.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
I think WVU has more than enough games on its schedule to compete for a BCS bid, and I think Marshall is a great tune-up game early in the season for them (after Maryland, of course).
Marshall's a distraction, and a "gotcha" game waiting to happen. Nobody at WVU wants the game. The only reason it continued as long as it did is that Manchin forced it on WVU.
QuoteI disagree; people outside the state know about it. :)
DON'T PATRONIZE ME.
QuoteAnd while more in-state kids go to play for Marshall than WVU, who recruits nationally, it's an important game to the kids that played with and against one another in high school.
I think it's a good thing, and a shame it's ending.
I will miss it, but I don't blame WVU for walking away from it.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 25, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
Hey do you know if they're travelling up to Ft Worth for Thanksgiving next year, or if they're playing Tech or someone else at home? I want to say I read that they were going to be playing at home again, but I can't find where I saw/think I saw that, so....
No idea but I would shocked if Texas was playing the Froggies in Fort Worth next Thanksgiving.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 26, 2012, 07:30:06 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 26, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
[MBM] Asshole cocksucker motherfucker ignorant douchebag! [/MBM]
Hey look, you still don't get it! Stunning! :lol:
:lol: I got it from your first post. I am still laughing.
Feel free to throw in more personal insults and tell me, for the umpteenth time, that you are never going to respond to me again. :D
Quote from: grumbler on September 26, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
:lol: I got it from your first post. I am still laughing.
Oh did you? That's interesting, since my first post to you was:
QuoteThey just signed a 13 year grant of rights along with their new TV deal. The Big 12 isn't even remotely shaky.
Nope, you still don't get it and now...well now you're just flailing around.
QuoteFeel free to throw in more personal insults and tell me, for the umpteenth time, that you are never going to respond to me again. :D
OvB really nailed you in that first post of his in response to this whole thing, didn't he? I also never said I wasn't ever going to respond to you again. Are you just making things up again?
I think I missed something.
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 01:38:59 PM
I think I missed something.
Grumbler didn't know about the grant of rights the Big 12 schools signed with the new TV deal and was talking about the Big 12 being shaky and whatnot. I responded with the quoted part above, and he went into sarcastic douchebag mode. Nothing particularly important.
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
I think WVU has more than enough games on its schedule to compete for a BCS bid, and I think Marshall is a great tune-up game early in the season for them (after Maryland, of course).
Marshall's a distraction, and a "gotcha" game waiting to happen. Nobody at WVU wants the game. The only reason it continued as long as it did is that Manchin forced it on WVU.
While you're correct that the series only existed because Manchin forced it on WVU, why would it be any more of a "gotcha" game than any other game between a team from a power conference and a team from a lower-tier FBS conference?
I mean, it's pretty clear what WVU's schedule is going to look like going forward (assuming that the Big 12 keeps a 9-game conference schedule, and the NCAA keeps FBS teams at 12 games a season)--they're going to play 9 conference games, a game against a team from another power conference (apparantly Maryland), a game against an FCS team, and one other, which will probably be a game against a lower-tier FBS conference. Why not Marshall, at least in some years? What makes them less suitable than say, Bowling Green?
Quote from: dps on September 26, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
Why not Marshall, at least in some years? What makes them less suitable than say, Bowling Green?
Any team you play every year, particularly a hated rival, is going to be a tougher out than they normally would be.
Quote from: dps on September 26, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
I think WVU has more than enough games on its schedule to compete for a BCS bid, and I think Marshall is a great tune-up game early in the season for them (after Maryland, of course).
Marshall's a distraction, and a "gotcha" game waiting to happen. Nobody at WVU wants the game. The only reason it continued as long as it did is that Manchin forced it on WVU.
While you're correct that the series only existed because Manchin forced it on WVU, why would it be any more of a "gotcha" game than any other game between a team from a power conference and a team from a lower-tier FBS conference?
I mean, it's pretty clear what WVU's schedule is going to look like going forward (assuming that the Big 12 keeps a 9-game conference schedule, and the NCAA keeps FBS teams at 12 games a season)--they're going to play 9 conference games, a game against a team from another power conference (apparantly Maryland), a game against an FCS team, and one other, which will probably be a game against a lower-tier FBS conference. Why not Marshall, at least in some years? What makes them less suitable than say, Bowling Green?
Marshall has a fanbase and boosters that would be perfectly happy with a 1-11 record if that one win was against WVU. WVU really has nothing to gain from the game. If they win, well big f-ing deal they beat Marshall. If they lose-- bad things, man. Bad things.
But like I sorta said I'd be okay personally with continuing the series in some fashion. It's a fun game for me.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 12:05:35 PM
DON'T PATRONIZE ME.
:lol: :P
Speaking of which, I saw where the Towson-Delaware game on 11/3 is going to be televised on NBCSN.
Screw Maryland-WVU or Ravens-Bengals. IT'S ON :contract:
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Speaking of which, I saw where the Towson-Delaware game on 11/3 is going to be televised on NBCSN.
Screw Maryland-WVU or Ravens-Bengals. IT'S ON :contract:
LOL, Battle of the Heavyweights! Let's see what the line is that week, and maybe we can talk some ducats, eh?
A comment I heard recently about the interim coach at Arkansas: "There's a reason he's not named John W. Smith". :lol:
Quote from: dps on September 26, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
A comment I heard recently about the interim coach at Arkansas: "There's a reason he's not named John W. Smith". :lol:
That was a damn coach hiring mistake.
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: dps on September 26, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 26, 2012, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
I think WVU has more than enough games on its schedule to compete for a BCS bid, and I think Marshall is a great tune-up game early in the season for them (after Maryland, of course).
Marshall's a distraction, and a "gotcha" game waiting to happen. Nobody at WVU wants the game. The only reason it continued as long as it did is that Manchin forced it on WVU.
While you're correct that the series only existed because Manchin forced it on WVU, why would it be any more of a "gotcha" game than any other game between a team from a power conference and a team from a lower-tier FBS conference?
I mean, it's pretty clear what WVU's schedule is going to look like going forward (assuming that the Big 12 keeps a 9-game conference schedule, and the NCAA keeps FBS teams at 12 games a season)--they're going to play 9 conference games, a game against a team from another power conference (apparantly Maryland), a game against an FCS team, and one other, which will probably be a game against a lower-tier FBS conference. Why not Marshall, at least in some years? What makes them less suitable than say, Bowling Green?
Marshall has a fanbase and boosters that would be perfectly happy with a 1-11 record if that one win was against WVU. WVU really has nothing to gain from the game. If they win, well big f-ing deal they beat Marshall. If they lose-- bad things, man. Bad things.
But like I sorta said I'd be okay personally with continuing the series in some fashion. It's a fun game for me.
:yes:
for fsu a good season is defined as wins over the gators and canes; 2 and 9 would be acceptable if those two wins were against miami and florida
last season was considered "special" because we also had a win over the irish who, it appears, will soon be returning to our regular schedule :contract:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 26, 2012, 01:44:25 PM
Grumbler didn't know about the grant of rights the Big 12 schools signed with the new TV deal and was talking about the Big 12 being shaky and whatnot.
See, that's what is so funny: you are throwing around personal insults based entirely on this strawman. And you continue to throw the insults even though you now know it is a strawman. I thought I would get tired of your little hissy fit by now, but I haven't.
Quote from: grumbler on September 27, 2012, 05:39:34 AM
See, that's what is so funny: you are throwing around personal insults based entirely on this strawman. And you continue to throw the insults even though you now know it is a strawman. I thought I would get tired of your little hissy fit by now, but I haven't.
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Incredible. I basically spelled it out for you in that post, but you
still haven't figured out why you got called a douchebag. Here's a hint: It's because you were (and still are) being a douchebag.
And no, you didn't know a damn thing about that GoR, because what you said in your initial posts didn't make a bit of sense in a situation where one is involved. Not knowing something, however, doesn't mean you are being a douchebag. Being a douchebag means you're being a douchebag. Is that clear enough for you, douchebag?
E: Oh, for the actual topic: Old Man Osborne is retiring from Nebraska.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8427343/nebraska-cornhuskers-ad-tom-osborne-going-retire
Man...he comes in and radically changes the direction of the school then retires? An admission his decisions were the wrong ones I guess.
Quote from: Valmy on September 27, 2012, 08:40:19 AM
Man...he comes in and radically changes the direction of the school then retires? An admission his decisions were the wrong ones I guess.
I don't know that I'd read it that way. I think Osborne has made the right moves for Nebraska in terms of money making and setting them up in that regard.
Now, what Nebraska fans really care about is winning football games. I don't know that Osborne has hurt or helped that effort. The problem with the Nebraska fan base is they think they should be winning multiple national championships per decade as they did over the 10 year period prior to 2000. Because of developments in college football I don't really know that Nebraska has the ability to do that anymore. A lot of the best players seem to come from the South, and relative parity across FBS versus the days of old means a lot of kids from the South (Nebraska used to have a major recruiting line in Louisiana) who don't get recruited by Alabama or Florida are getting grabbed up by schools like Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn and LSU.
If you look at Nebraska's state population and location, it really never made sense they were so good for so long, and I'm not sure Osborne could do anything to correct the situation. I'd expect Nebraska over the next 30 years to perform about the same as Iowa.
An ambitious fan base is still a nice asset though. Alabama most likely wouldn't be winning national championships if they hadn't ponied the money up for Saban. The reason they did so is largely because, since Bryant, their fans have had overly high expectations for their team's performance.
So if Nebraska has an attitude that they can win national championships and is willing to back it up, they can recruit out-of-state students and remain competitive. Players have a lot of different motivations, many will be quite willing to go a thousand miles from home to play for a "winner".
Well yeah that was my point. When they were in the Big XII they had access to Texas recruits and the fall off in recruiting Texas kids was swift and dramatic. What do they have to replace it with? The Big 10 states are already picked pretty clean by the local schools and are generally not exacty super recruiting hotbeds. And is a Michigan, Ohio, or Pennsylvania kid really going to choose Nebraska? Maybe but not in the numbers they need to compete for national titles. I think they doomed themselves to being a second rate football program. Perhaps a well funded one however.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 27, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
An ambitious fan base is still a nice asset though. Alabama most likely wouldn't be winning national championships if they hadn't ponied the money up for Saban. The reason they did so is largely because, since Bryant, their fans have had overly high expectations for their team's performance.
So if Nebraska has an attitude that they can win national championships and is willing to back it up, they can recruit out-of-state students and remain competitive. Players have a lot of different motivations, many will be quite willing to go a thousand miles from home to play for a "winner".
Yeah but Alabama is in a football hotbed. I mean it was not like that program was in any serious danger of declining they just had a few bad hires and some sanctions and that happens to everybody. There was no need by Bama to bring in kids from thousands of miles. Their demographic and geographic situation is fantastic. I do not really see how that is an indicator that is positive for Nebraska....quite the opposite in my view.
It's a matter of success breeds confidence & expectations which breed more success. Alabama's not any better situated than Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn or Ole Miss. But they've got double the national championships of those schools combined. Nebraska may fade out like Minnesota did, but right now they still have a reputation as a good football school. That's very helpful in regards to remaining a good football school.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 27, 2012, 09:28:20 AM
Alabama's not any better situated than Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn or Ole Miss.
And all those schools are well situated. It is no coincidence so many national titles have come from Alabama recently. They are in a good location to recruit all around them. Well that and the cheat. It is not like Alabama needed a genius like Saban to win. They won one with that buffoon Gene Stallings and the other Gene in Auburn is hardly Knute Rockne reborn.
Stanford @ Washington tonight. Are the Huskies any good this year?
Quote from: Valmy on September 27, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 27, 2012, 09:28:20 AM
Alabama's not any better situated than Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn or Ole Miss.
And all those schools are well situated. It is no coincidence so many national titles have come from Alabama recently. They are in a good location to recruit all around them. Well that and the cheat. It is not like Alabama needed a genius like Saban to win. They won one with that buffoon Gene Stallings and the other Gene in Auburn is hardly Knute Rockne reborn.
Nebraska doesn't have to do as well as Alabama to avoid becoming Iowa. They only need to win NCs once a generation or so to remain nationally known.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 27, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
Nebraska doesn't have to do as well as Alabama to avoid becoming Iowa. They only need to win NCs once a generation or so to remain nationally known.
Well I would be shocked if they win another in my lifetime. Winning NCs is not so easy, something you SEC guys might forget sometimes :P
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 27, 2012, 09:45:07 AM
Stanford @ Washington tonight. Are the Huskies any good this year?
A little too early to tell. All they have really done so far is get steamrolled by LSU but that doesn't really say anything.
MBM,
Yeah too hard to tell what is up with Huskies.
Lost badly to LSU, blew away Portland St like should and beat SDSU, but only looked good in half of that game.
Bow Down!
Pretty good few days over at Century Link Field in Seattle. :)
Well, I guess we know a bit more about UW now. :) Nice win for the Huskies.
:lol: I just saw that Towson is at #3 LSU tomorrow.
Those poor kids aren't going to know what the fuck hit them. I wonder if they'll ask for autographs afterwards.
I fully expect the buckeyes to lose tomorrow.
Not a good start for Baylor (second play: INT).
E: Huh. The Baylor D actually made a stop and forced a WVU FG attempt, which was missed.
WVU just got hit with the first helmet penalty I've seen. Helmet popped off, dude kept playing (moving toward the ball carrier, not making a tackle or anything) instead of, idk laying down or something, penalty flag came out.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
Not a good start for Baylor (second play: INT).
E: Huh. The Baylor D actually made a stop and forced a WVU FG attempt, which was missed.
WVU just got hit with the first helmet penalty I've seen. Helmet popped off, dude kept playing (moving toward the ball carrier, not making a tackle or anything) instead of, idk laying down or something, penalty flag came out.
What was the call? In the NFL the play is just blown dead when someone loses their hat, no idea it could be a penalty somewhere.
Quote from: sbr on September 29, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
What was the call? In the NFL the play is just blown dead when someone loses their hat, no idea it could be a penalty somewhere.
I'm not sure. Let me find the exact call in the play by play.
I just caught the replay when I came back from the other room. They didn't even throw the flag at him until the play was over and he was walking back to pick up his helmet. Announcers were calling it a bad rule, etc, but didn't say exactly what it was.
E: Had to rewind. 15 yard personal foul for "pursuing the play after his helmet came off." Here it is on the pbp: Tyler Bitancurt kickoff for 56 yards returned by Demetri Goodson for 22 yards to the Bayl 46, WEST VIRGINIA penalty 15 yard Personal Foul on Troy Gloster accepted for a 1ST down.
I have been looking forward to this for weeks. West Virginia up against a real Big 12 offense. This game could end up 55-52
Kicking at the college level seems like it is getting worse as the years go by.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 28, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
:lol: I just saw that Towson is at #3 LSU tomorrow.
Even Herbstreit said today, "Why do we even have to deal with this?" :lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
Kicking at the college level seems like it is getting worse as the years go by.
There aren't really enough good kickers to go around for 32 NFL teams, so how are there going to be enough for 120+ FBS teams, plus those in the lower divisions?
Quote from: dps on September 29, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
There aren't really enough good kickers to go around for 32 NFL teams, so how are there going to be enough for 120+ FBS teams, plus those in the lower divisions?
They don't have to be good enough for the NFL to be fine at the college level. But goddamn, some of these guys are just fucking awful. Recruit a damn soccer player from a nearby high school team or
something.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
Kicking at the college level seems like it is getting worse as the years go by.
You'd think at least one Division I team could manage to spring for a P1 visa for some Eurotrash named Rene' or Raul that could kick a fucking ball 40 yards.
This is like the Alamo Bowl. It could be 35-35 at the half.
Speaking of defenseless defenses it looks like Jordan Hicks and Brandon Moore are out for the Oklahoma State game MBM. Man that sucks.
Quote from: Valmy on September 29, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
This is like the Alamo Bowl. It could be 35-35 at the half.
Speaking of defenseless defenses it looks like Jordan Hicks and Brandon Moore are out for the Oklahoma State game MBM. Man that sucks.
Yeah that's not good. Need the running game to keep the clock running and give the d a nice break.
What about Fera, speaking of kickers? He still out too?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
What about Fera, speaking of kickers? He still out too?
Yep. Hicks, Moore, and Fera all stayed in Austin.
Man it is 35-35 at the half. That play WV gave up to end the half was weak sauce. I know this is the Big 12 but you cannot let that happen.
The loser of this game is going to score over 60.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: dps on September 29, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
There aren't really enough good kickers to go around for 32 NFL teams, so how are there going to be enough for 120+ FBS teams, plus those in the lower divisions?
They don't have to be good enough for the NFL to be fine at the college level. But goddamn, some of these guys are just fucking awful. Recruit a damn soccer player from a nearby high school team or something.
Field goal kicking in college is arguably harder than in the NFL, at least on fairly short attemts, because the hashmarks are further apart in college ball, making for tougher angles in some cases, granted that on many attemts, the ball is going to be snapped from somewhere inside the hashmarks, not on them. The goalposts themselves are the same width, and as for distance, well, 20 yards is 20 yards, 30 yards is 30 yards, etc.
Quote from: ValmyYep. Hicks, Moore, and Fera all stayed in Austin.
Ugh.
Quote from: dps on September 29, 2012, 12:48:52 PM
Field goal kicking in college is arguably harder than in the NFL, at least on fairly short attemts, because the hashmarks are further apart in college ball, making for tougher angles in some cases, granted that on many attemts, the ball is going to be snapped from somewhere inside the hashmarks, not on them. The goalposts themselves are the same width, and as for distance, well, 20 yards is 20 yards, 30 yards is 30 yards, etc.
Yes, I know about the field differences. They still don't need to be NFL caliber to do fine in college.
E: Seriously. Watch the kicker Texas trots out there tonight. This is a major D1 program, and they have a dude who is sitting at 42% and kicks what are essentially knuckleballs. He's the backup, yeah, but jesus christ. Some of his kicks look like what happens when I try to kick. Long of 38. I'm not kidding.
Hey touchdown WVU. Uh. Again.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 01:11:58 PM
Hey touchdown WVU. Uh. Again.
Against Baylor or Clemson?
:lol:
Quote from: dps on September 29, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
Against Baylor or Clemson?
:lol:
:lol: It's all blending together at this point. OH FUMBLE
E:
Seems like dude went up, caught it, came down, turned, ball came out. They're taking a while to review it though. Wow. Incomplete pass.
I don't get LHN. :(
It's in the menu taunting me.
Game ovah. Don't know why they wouldn't go for it there.
E: Sorry Baylor, RG3 and a good D aren't walking through that door. 56-35 WVU now.
Wow #23 for WVU is tiny, or at least looks like it next to that Baylor WR who caught the TD over him.
e: A punt! Baylor can get back into it!
Touchdown Bears. 56-49 now. I want OT just to see how long it would go on with these two Os starting so close to the end zone.
E: :XD:
56-63
There is NO defense in sight in WV today. :P
So that's 5 TD passes for Florence plus one on the ground. What is Smith at? 9?
E: 70 - 63 WVU is going to be the final (they're taking knees now).
Quote from: Valmy on September 29, 2012, 12:47:48 PM
The loser of this game is going to score over 60.
70-63. That was almost a spoof of a Big 12 game. Not even Mike Leach ever dreamed of a QB going 45-51 for 656 yards and 8 TDs no INTs.
Say what you want to about WV and geography but they do not just fit in the Big 12 they are more Big 12 than any other Big 12 team.
What a game. Listened to most of it on the radio/Internet and then watched the last quarter on TV. Every time I lost mu signal or had bad radio reception for like 5 minutes two or three TDs were scored. Fun game but WVU is going to have to find a defense if it is going to have any chance of beating Texas.
Looks like a similar game going on between Tennessee and Georgia. 30-30 at half. Wish I had tv reception. :(
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: ValmyYep. Hicks, Moore, and Fera all stayed in Austin.
Ugh.
Quote from: dps on September 29, 2012, 12:48:52 PM
Field goal kicking in college is arguably harder than in the NFL, at least on fairly short attemts, because the hashmarks are further apart in college ball, making for tougher angles in some cases, granted that on many attemts, the ball is going to be snapped from somewhere inside the hashmarks, not on them. The goalposts themselves are the same width, and as for distance, well, 20 yards is 20 yards, 30 yards is 30 yards, etc.
Yes, I know about the field differences. They still don't need to be NFL caliber to do fine in college.
E: Seriously. Watch the kicker Texas trots out there tonight. This is a major D1 program, and they have a dude who is sitting at 42% and kicks what are essentially knuckleballs. He's the backup, yeah, but jesus christ. Some of his kicks look like what happens when I try to kick. Long of 38. I'm not kidding.
A shame. The Longhorns used to have an elite kicker.
I got back home just in time to see some absolutely pitiful "tackling" by Ohio State. :lol:
Quote from: Neil on September 29, 2012, 04:44:48 PM
A shame. The Longhorns used to have an elite kicker.
Hell, both of those guys in the Ravens - Browns game were Horns kickers.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I JUST EJACULATED
Not pretty. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6K0a5RPUA&list=UULAVFe30p7xYgr5rVwybZ7Q&index=2&feature=plcp
People have too much time on their hands. Bonus points for the Bobby Petrino reference at the end.
:wacko:
Well Bray decided to cough that up at a really bad time.
Oh that's a nice start. :bleeding:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
Oh that's a nice start. :bleeding:
Things are looking better. :)
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 29, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
Things are looking better. :)
This is true. The running game is irritating me though.
E: What the hell was that punt. Oh look, more excellent tackling.
Monroe with the 100 yard return. Just means the famed "No Tackle" D will be right back on the field though.
lol what is happening at Oklahoma State
Towson is...winning?
Good going MBM. You jinxed them.
:unsure: Who?
E: Oh. Towson? :lol: I wonder if they'll show highlights of LSU retaking the lead.
Towson shanked punt. So LSU is about to go up 21-9 at half.
I take take that back, LSU has been horrible on 3rd downs (0-6). So now 17-9 Tigers over Tigers.
WTF is up with god awful uniforms in Wisconsin-Nebraska game :bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on September 29, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
WTF is up with god awful uniforms in Wisconsin-Nebraska game :bleeding:
Adidas.
Valmy, from a little earlier:
QuoteMBTexasFootball @MBTexasFootball
RB Malcolm Brown has an left ankle injury and is questionable to return in the second half.
Not good for this game (haven't seen him out there in a long time), but hopefully he'll be back next week at least.
Quote from: Valmy on September 29, 2012, 02:56:49 PM
Say what you want to about WV and geography but they do not just fit in the Big 12 they are more Big 12 than any other Big 12 team.
Beating up on cupcake teams early, only to falter late in the season against real opponents?
Yeah, they're the new Kansas State.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
Beating up on cupcake teams early, only to falter late in the season against real opponents?
Yeah, they're the new Kansas State.
Snyder's K-State is different. They do things like blow out #1 OU in the conference championship game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 29, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
WTF is up with god awful uniforms in Wisconsin-Nebraska game :bleeding:
Adidas.
I really wish they'd stop that. It looks like Alabama-San Diego State out there, for fuck's sake?
Did you see the abortion Notre Dame's going to wear against Miami next week? Half gold with a burst on one side, and the other half a white-on-black SS leprechaun? I hurled.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
I really wish they'd stop that. It looks like Alabama-San Diego State out there, for fuck's sake?
Did you see the abortion Notre Dame's going to wear against Miami next week? Half gold with a burst on one side, and the other half a white-on-black SS leprechaun? I hurled.
Yeah, adidas is somehow worse, on the whole, than both Nike and Under Armor. They're also not even original. These Wisky and Nebraska uniforms are the same pattern as the Michigan uniforms last year. They basically used the same template for Texas A&M and Mississippi State's regular uniforms as well. Pretty lame shit.
Nebraska does churn out some wholesomely yummy cheerleaders, though.
Hm. This is stupid. Last year, I'd be all cool about the D needing a stop to win the game. This year, with a lot of the same guys? Yeah, they're probably going to put more points on the board.
Oh hey. While Texas is busy losing:
UTSA is now 5-0. 35 - 14 over New Mexico State.
Yes, highlight our shitty kicking situation. :cry:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
I really wish they'd stop that. It looks like Alabama-San Diego State out there, for fuck's sake?
Did you see the abortion Notre Dame's going to wear against Miami next week? Half gold with a burst on one side, and the other half a white-on-black SS leprechaun? I hurled.
Yeah, adidas is somehow worse, on the whole, than both Nike and Under Armor. They're also not even original. These Wisky and Nebraska uniforms are the same pattern as the Michigan uniforms last year. They basically used the same template for Texas A&M and Mississippi State's regular uniforms as well. Pretty lame shit.
Just like the Oregon uniform situation, we are not the one's they are doing this for. It is for those who will go out and buy new jerseys and other gear, and those 16-17 year old kids they are recruiting.
OH MY GOD DAVID ASH IS THE FUCKING MAN
29 seconds is a lot of time for OSU.
BUT NOT ENOUGH FUCK YOU OKIE LITE
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
and the other half a white-on-black SS leprechaun? I hurled.
:lol:
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 29, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
DavidAsh4Heisman
Need to use some of that LHN money to buy votes.
Towson dropped 22 on LSU?
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"Hmm not bad"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
Beating up on cupcake teams early, only to falter late in the season against real opponents?
Yeah, they're the new Kansas State.
No. Big time QB and spread offense. That is the Big 12 style. Kansas State is actually not like that at all.
And besides everybody beats up on cupcakes and um....yeah lots of teams lose to better teams. I would hope every team in every conference beats bad teams and sometimes loses to good teams. Well except Arkansas they are losing to everybody.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
Oh hey. While Texas is busy losing:
:nelson:
My faith never waivered. But we got to run the ball better early in the game. We also need to come to grips with the fact our vaunted defense is just plain mediocre. But mediocre is better than what alot of teams are fielding out there these days.
Huge win. Sets up a showdown with WV next week....one in which I do not really have a good feel for.
Well except Texas will not be giving up 70.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
Hm. This is stupid. Last year, I'd be all cool about the D needing a stop to win the game. This year, with a lot of the same guys? Yeah, they're probably going to put more points on the board.
They are not good this year. Not bad or anything but they are not who we thought they were. I have come to terms with that.
Anyway next week is the second major Big 12 matchup of the year with the first being K-State at Okie. The WV fans will be here in force I am really looking forward to it.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2012, 12:24:19 AM
:nelson:
My faith never waivered.
You must have missed the defense giving up huge yardage and the lead late in the 4th quarter, while the Horns were busy averaging like 2.5 ypc and had lost Malcolm Brown on O. Thankfully, Bergeron didn't get that last TD until there were less than 30 seconds left, and they STILL got to the Texas 30 on their stupid lateral play that should have been immediately buried. If Bergeron had gotten in instead of being stopped at the 2 the play before, they would have probably been taking shots at the end zone at the end of the game. It was bad, man. Real bad. It's interesting how much Ash has turned around after last year, and is now essentially winning games that the D has given away.
E:
QuoteThey are not good this year. Not bad or anything but they are not who we thought they were. I have come to terms with that.
They
are pretty good though. They (the DBs, not the LBs, I don't know whats going on there) consistently get into position to make plays, etc, then they just throw a shoulder into it trying to get on Sportscenter or something, bounce off, and give up 50 and a TD. That is what is so stupid, and is what very nearly cost Texas the game last night. If they actually tackled, instead of just hit, they probably wouldn't be giving up like 33ppg or whatever it is vs. AQ teams.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
You must have missed the defense giving up huge yardage and the lead late in the 4th quarter, while the Horns were busy averaging like 2.5 ypc and had lost Malcolm Brown on O. Thankfully, Bergeron didn't get that last TD until there were less than 30 seconds left, and they STILL got to the Texas 30 on their stupid lateral play that should have been immediately buried. If Bergeron had gotten in instead of being stopped at the 2 the play before, they would have probably been taking shots at the end zone at the end of the game. It was bad, man. Real bad. It's interesting how much Ash has turned around after last year, and is now essentially winning games that the D has given away.
Texas beat the defending conference champions on the road in a huge matchup. This was the first of their four huge monster games in a row. It is axiomatically impossible to win a game in these four games and have it be 'bad, man. Real bad'. And Texas led most of the game. And as far as the 2.5 ypc well the strategy is to bunch up front and make David Ash beat you. Well David Ash is beating people, but that is by design. The defense of the other team wants to make sure that is the guy who has to win the game for Texas. Now that he is doing that Texas is going to be very hard to defend. We all wish Texas could just line up and flatten people, and while they are doing that late in the game now as the defense tires the offensive line still has a way to go to just enforce its will on people, especially against 8 men in the box.
QuoteThey are pretty good though. They (the DBs, not the LBs, I don't know whats going on there) consistently get into position to make plays, etc, then they just throw a shoulder into it trying to get on Sportscenter or something, bounce off, and give up 50 and a TD. That is what is so stupid, and is what very nearly cost Texas the game last night. If they actually tackled, instead of just hit, they probably wouldn't be giving up like 33ppg or whatever it is vs. AQ teams.
No they are not. The defense neither tackles well nor sheds blockers well. They were getting beat up front and in the backfield. And the DBs are there to make plays because that is what the spread offense is designed to do: force the DBs to make open field tackles. Now I never played football so I am not sure exactly why mediocre and bad defenses appear to have problems with the concept that tackling is done with your arms and hands and using your body weight. But since they obviously do wrapping up must take a great deal of discipline and skill. I mean really Adrian Phillips? Trying to take somebody with your head? I mean Big time college football players are workout warriors with fantastic balance you are not going to be just knocking them over so I am pretty sure they are not trying to do that. But there must be some sort of psychological or physical reason why defenders try to do that because I am almost 100% positive no coach has ever told them to not try to wrap up the guy they are tackling. It is also a mark of a not very good defense.
The corners and Defensive Ends are pretty good but man that OSU running game was ripping through that defense, they just couldn't get off blocks.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
But there must be some sort of psychological or physical reason why defenders try to do that because I am almost 100% positive no coach has ever told them to not try to wrap up the guy they are tackling.
Trying to make the highlight reel.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 30, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
Trying to make the highlight reel.
I find that hard to believe because all of Texas' bad defenses have this tendency. And they were never on highlight reels, maybe blooper reels or the highlight reels for the other team's offense. The guys who were on highlight reels were the ones who were like Michael Huff and tackled correctly.
Knocking somebody down looks more badass than pulling them down, this is probably what's going through the defender's mind. So they focus more on the angle and momentum and less on getting their hands in the right place.
That's exactly right. It's highlight reel shit, and you see it at all levels, in every game, every weekend. A whole lot of the time, the defenders end up bouncing off and looking dumb. Sometimes, they knock the piss out of their "target," and boom they're on Sportscenter.
Also, Valmy, this was not a "huge monster game." This is not the same Oklahoma State team that won the conference last year. They were unranked and lost (badly) against the only quality team they played, for god's sake. What this was was the first "real" team Texas has faced, after several cupcakes in a row. The first huge game is next week against undefeated, top 10 WVU. Then there's another one with OU. Baylor, like OSU, is not a monster huge game.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 30, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
Knocking somebody down looks more badass than pulling them down, this is probably what's going through the defender's mind. So they focus more on the angle and momentum and less on getting their hands in the right place.
That is about as logical as wide outs just refusing to catch balls correctly and trying to make a one handed catch on every play just to show how awesome they are. I just have a hard time believing defenders are that stupid.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 02:59:23 PM
Also, Valmy, this was not a "huge monster game." This is not the same Oklahoma State team that won the conference last year. They were unranked and lost (badly) against the only quality team they played, for god's sake. What this was was the first "real" team Texas has faced, after several cupcakes in a row. The first huge game is next week against undefeated, top 10 WVU. Then there's another one with OU. Baylor, like OSU, is not a monster huge game.
Based on what man? I have watched most of OSU's games this year, including the Arizona game, and they are still a team with a good defensive front seven and a high powered offense that can both pass and run with the best of them. THey were, and I expected them to be, a tough matchup for Texas. They returned plenty of guys from last year, have a great coaching staff, and were at home where the crowd would be fired up.
Wait why exactly is WV which beat Baylor by one score at home so big but Baylor is not? Where is the logic in that? NIck Florence and that offense are amazing and TExas will have to bring it on offense and not make mistakes or they could get run. I mean they practically are the exact same team as WV. Both games are going to be dogfights that are going to be very hard for Texas to win make no mistake.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
Based on what man? I have watched most of OSU's games this year and they are still a team with a good defensive front seven and a high powered offense that can both pass and run with the best of them. THey were, and I expected them to be, a tough matchup for Texas. They returned plenty of guys from last year, have a great coaching staff, and were at home where the crowd would be fired up.
That's all great and all, but they managed to lose to now 3-2 Arizona by 20 or whatever it was. They're just not the same team, and just because they matchup well and are all fired up to ruin the Horns season doesn't make it some sort of war between titans of college football. They are what they are: a pretty good team that probably isn't going to win the conference unless some silly shit happens. It's not like last year where they were a choke away from going to the National Championship. If Texas (this year's version) was playing THAT team last night, that's a huge game. This one was more of the usual college football thing: Don't lose. If that's what makes for a monster game, then every game every week is gigantic, right?
QuoteWait why exactly is WV which beat Baylor by one score at home so big but Baylor is not? Where is the logic in that? NIck Florence and that offense are amazing and TExas will have to bring it on offense and not make mistakes or they could get run. I mean they practically are the exact same team as WV. Both games are going to be dogfights that are going to be very hard for Texas to win make no mistake.
Because WVU is not Baylor, and is an undefeated top 10 team? Why do you think Baylor is some huge game, or at least any more so than any other game in college football where if you lose once you could ruin your season? Florence is good, and it'd be cool to have him playing for Texas, but RG3 he isn't, and holy fuck that D is bad.
E: Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying these teams are like Kansas or New Mexico or whatever. They're still conference games and they're good teams, but let's not get crazy and start calling them monster matchups. If these are monster games, what the hell are BCS games or that thing in Dallas in a couple weeks or the L to Kansas State later on? Ultra super monster games?
ZOMG, Huskies made it back into AP. #23 after beating Stanford, course they get to go to Oregon and face #2 team next week, so be short stay :lol:
Oh here's the new rankings:
Associated Press Top 25
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida State
4. LSU
5. Georgia
6. South Carolina
7. Kansas State
8. West Virginia
9. Notre Dame
10. Florida
11. Texas
12. Ohio State
13. Southern California
14. Oregon State
15. Clemson
15. TCU
17. Oklahoma
18. Stanford
19. Louisville
20. Mississippi State
21. Nebraska
22. Rutgers
23. Washington
24. Northwestern
25. UCLA
Complete details
09/30/2012
Coaches Poll
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. LSU
4. Florida State
5. Georgia
6. South Carolina
7. West Virginia
8. Kansas State
9. Texas
10. Notre Dame
11. Florida
12. Southern California
13. TCU
14. Oklahoma
15. Clemson
16. Louisville
17. Oregon State
18. Stanford
19. Mississippi State
20. Nebraska
21. Rutgers
22. Northwestern
23. Cincinnati
24. Texas Tech
25. Boise State
Complete details
09/30/2012
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
Beating up on cupcake teams early, only to falter late in the season against real opponents?
Yeah, they're the new Kansas State.
Snyder's K-State is different. They do things like blow out #1 OU in the conference championship game.
Maybe New Snyder, but I remember Old Snyder, choking to Texas A&M at the end of the year, Colorado, Oklahoma (twice), Nebraska, back in the 90s when they built upon nice preseason rankings only to get smacked in the face with real opponents when it counted, and they folded like lawn chairs.
I miss those Kansas State teams. So predictable when I gambled on late season ball. :(
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 11:21:40 PM
Towson dropped 22 on LSU?
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"Hmm not bad"
You know how mommy cats teach their kittens how to kill, showing them the prey for a while, playing with it for a bit before finally letting it die?
It was sorta like that. LSU's 3rd stringers were learning how to kill, and they took their time.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
That's all great and all, but they managed to lose to now 3-2 Arizona by 20 or whatever it was.
Yeah and that was because they committed a shitload a turnovers and penalties and the fact their DC did not make the trip was a huge problem for their defense. They also gained over 600 yards of offense and made it look easy. It mean it really takes something to put up over 600 yards with a Freshman QB while playing mistake prone FB. Unless they are going to be turning it over 4 times and committing 150+ yards of penalties every game I don't think that really meant much. Well ok it probably meant something but it did not mean they were a team that was going to be an easy win for anybody. That was OSU's 'oh crap' game of the year.
QuoteThey're just not the same team, and just because they matchup well and are all fired up to ruin the Horns season doesn't make it some sort of war between titans of college football. They are what they are: a pretty good team that probably isn't going to win the conference unless some silly shit happens.
No it is a huge monster game for 2012 Texas. There were five teams on Texas' schedule I thought were as good or better than they are and, except for WV of course, have owned their ass the last two years. OSU, WV, OU, Baylor, and K-State. I was thinking if they can beat two of those five teams, win the bowl game and finish 10-3 that would be a fantastic year. All of Texas' losses will come at the hands of those five teams.
QuoteIt's not like last year where they were a choke away from going to the National Championship. If Texas (this year's version) was playing THAT team last night, that's a huge game.
They are not as elite as last year but I am not buying they are that much worse. At least they have not played like they are that much worse than last year this year.
QuoteThis one was more of the usual college football thing: Don't lose. If that's what makes for a monster game, then every game every week is gigantic, right?
When you are playing a team on your level that has beaten you the past two years in a tight wide open Conference race on the road that is a big game. Playing Kansas and Iowa State and Mississippi is not.
QuoteBecause WVU is not Baylor, and is an undefeated top 10 team? Why do you think Baylor is some huge game, or at least any more so than any other game in college football where if you lose once you could ruin your season? Florence is good, and it'd be cool to have him playing for Texas, but RG3 he isn't, and holy fuck that D is bad.
He doesn't have to be RG3. That Baylor team is loaded at every position on the offense they have no weaknesses. And we better be grateful both WV and Baylor have horrid defenses because if they didn't Texas would have no chance.
QuoteThey're still conference games and they're good teams, but let's not get crazy and start calling them monster matchups.
They are monster matchups for this team. They will show us how good they are.
They are all equally big in my mind because I do not think OSU, WV, Baylor, OU, and Kansas State are all that much better than each other or Texas. Any win any of these six teams can get against each other is big and I don't think anything we have seen from OU-K-State, WV-Baylor, or OSU-Texas suggests I am wrong about that. But it is still early in the year I may look like an idiot later on. OU may yet completely implode for example.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2012, 04:42:25 PM
Yeah and that was because they committed a shitload a turnovers and penalties and the fact their DC did not make the trip was a huge problem for their defense. They also gained over 600 yards of offense and made it look easy. It mean it really takes something to put up over 600 yards with a Freshman QB while playing mistake prone FB. Unless they are going to be turning it over 4 times and committing 150+ yards of penalties every game I don't think that really meant much. Well ok it probably meant something but it did not mean they were a team that was going to be an easy win for anybody. That was OSU's 'oh crap' game of the year.
Of course it means something. It means they lost to the only team they had played that was worth a shit. And now they've done it again.
QuoteNo it is a huge monster game for 2012 Texas. There were five teams on Texas' schedule I thought were as good or better than they are and, except for WV of course, have owned their ass the last two years. OSU, WV, OU, Baylor, and K-State. I was thinking if they can beat two of those five teams, win the bowl game and finish 10-3 that would be a fantastic year. All of Texas' losses will come at the hands of those five teams.
We're going to have to agree to disagree that Oklahoma State minus guys like Weeden and Blackmon and coming off a mouthfucking by Arizona is some sort of massive game. Same thing with Baylor minus RG3. Important? Sure, they're important games, but Texas is better than both of them and should beat them (well, they already beat the first one).
QuoteThey are not as elite as last year but I am not buying they are that much worse. At least they have not played like they are that much worse than last year this year.
Not much worse? They've already lost two games, for christs sake. They're at .500. The Pokes didn't even lose their first game last year until they managed to piss away the 2OT game vs. Iowa State in the middle of November. Then, you know, they won the next two, which included OU and the Fiesta Bowl. C'mon, man.
QuoteWhen you are playing a team on your level that has beaten you the past two years in a tight wide open Conference race on the road that is a big game. Playing Kansas and Iowa State and Mississippi is not.
If we're downgrading from "huge, monster" to big, that's fine. I can accept that. I would just call it "important," myself, but w/e.
QuoteHe doesn't have to be RG3. That Baylor team is loaded at every position on the offense they have no weaknesses. And we better be grateful both WV and Baylor have horrid defenses because if they didn't Texas would have no chance.
Of course they would have a chance. Don't be silly.
QuoteThey are monster matchups for this team. They will show us how good they are.
QuoteThey are all equally big in my mind because I do not think OSU, WV, Baylor, OU, and Kansas State are all that much better than each other or Texas. Any win any of these six teams can get against each other is big and I don't think anything we have seen from OU-K-State, WV-Baylor, or OSU-Texas suggests I am wrong about that. But it is still early in the year I may look like an idiot later on. OU may yet completely implode for example.
They aren't monster games, unless you're going to call every conference game one. They're important, learning about the team type games, but monster? That's the next two weeks, and possibly on Dec 1. #7 WVU vs. #9 Texas. Top ten game, two undefeated teams. Texas - OU. Yeah, fuck OU. If Texas and K-State are still looking good at the end of the year, that's another one. 2 - 1 OSU vs. #12 (or whatever) Texas? Texas better be winning that shit. Baylor plays completely decimated TCU before the Texas game, so they might be 4-1 and in the polls again by the time Oct 20 rolls around. Maybe. vOv
I mean, call them what you want, but I define "monster games" as top ten matchups, or big rivalries, or things like the Cotton Bowl or BCS games or something. Not one involving unranked Okie Lite. Again, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this thing, since it seems our definitions of these terms are pretty different.
Quote from: katmai on September 30, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
ZOMG, Huskies made it back into AP. #23 after beating Stanford, course they get to go to Oregon and face #2 team next week, so be short stay :lol:
It's looking like my buddy is gonna get an extra ticket and take me to the Oregon/UW game on Saturday. It will be my first Ducks game if i go.
Speaking of TCU, I'm actually kind of wondering if they're going to make it out of the ISU game next week without a loss. Patterson is a good coach, but those personnel losses have got to catch up with them at some point.
E: Hey Texas has opened up at -6.5 over WVU. Heh.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
Of course it means something. It means they lost to the only team they had played that was worth a shit. And now they've done it again.
Well sure it means that but it does not mean they are not good. How they lost those two games means something when projecting how they will do in the rest of their games. I thought they were a good team and would provide Texas a huge challenge. And they did. And they will be a big factor for the rest of the season.
QuoteWe're going to have to agree to disagree that Oklahoma State minus guys like Weeden and Blackmon and coming off a mouthfucking by Arizona is some sort of massive game. Same thing with Baylor minus RG3. Important? Sure, they're important games, but Texas is better than both of them and should beat them (well, they already beat the first one).
It is a distinction without a difference. I saw this series of four games and thought 'wow what a huge monster series of games. This will determine our season.' So I have been calling them the huge monster games. If by some sort of scale they should be called big or important whatever. I am not exactly known for being super specific in my terminology. It is semantics, the point is here is where Texas shows what they are made of. Huge win for them, 1-0 so far.
But I did not see anything so far that indicates Texas is that much better than OSU. What exactly about OSU is so shitty now that you saw them play? And don't refer to their record now tell me what you saw on the field last night.
QuoteNot much worse? They've already lost two games, for christs sake. They're at .500. The Pokes didn't even lose their first game last year until they managed to piss away the 2OT game vs. Iowa State in the middle of November. Then, you know, they won the next two, which included OU and the Fiesta Bowl. C'mon, man.
Yeah well they are basically what they were before. Granted Weeden and Blackmon were great but they are still piling on yards like crazy. They had 576 yards against Texas...what would they have had 700 yards or something last year? They are a little younger, a little greener and make more mistakes but I do not see some sort of massive talent drop off.
QuoteOf course they would have a chance. Don't be silly.
Heh well Florence or Smith backed up by a good or great defense might not be invincible. Maybe Bama or LSU or somebody with a suffocating D might take them down. But Texas would be unlikely to.
QuoteThey aren't monster games, unless you're going to call every conference game one. They're important, learning about the team type games, but monster? That's the next two weeks, and possibly on Dec 1. #7 WVU vs. #9 Texas. Top ten game, two undefeated teams. Texas - OU. Yeah, fuck OU. If Texas and K-State are still looking good at the end of the year, that's another one. 2 - 1 OSU vs. #12 (or whatever) Texas? Texas better be winning that shit. Baylor plays completely decimated TCU before the Texas game, so they might be 4-1 and in the polls again by the time Oct 20 rolls around. Maybe. vOv
It is because of the nature of the conference race this year. We have five or six teams who are all roughly equal and could all win it. And hey it looks like you are coming around that perhaps three of the remaining four games I am talking about may indeed be huge and monstrous in nature ;)
Any game featuring Texas is a monstrous abomination. :alberta:
I refuse to call the red river shootout by its newer pussy name.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 30, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
I refuse to call the red river shootout by its newer pussy name.
And the Red River Shootout is a pussier version of the original name: The Red River War. It will be the Red River Tupperware Party by the time these branding douches are finished.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 29, 2012, 11:49:02 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 29, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
What was the call? In the NFL the play is just blown dead when someone loses their hat, no idea it could be a penalty somewhere.
I'm not sure. Let me find the exact call in the play by play.
I just caught the replay when I came back from the other room. They didn't even throw the flag at him until the play was over and he was walking back to pick up his helmet. Announcers were calling it a bad rule, etc, but didn't say exactly what it was.
E: Had to rewind. 15 yard personal foul for "pursuing the play after his helmet came off." Here it is on the pbp: Tyler Bitancurt kickoff for 56 yards returned by Demetri Goodson for 22 yards to the Bayl 46, WEST VIRGINIA penalty 15 yard Personal Foul on Troy Gloster accepted for a 1ST down.
Does anyone care enough that I should bother explaining the actual rule (which is new this year, btw)?
I knew having to leave the field when your helmet came off was new, but I didn't know you had to stop fucking playing or get a flag if it did. That makes me sad.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
I knew having to leave the field when your helmet came off was new, but I didn't know you had to stop fucking playing or get a flag if it did. That makes me sad.
Well, the more important rule is that if you hit someone who has lost their helmet, you get a automatic 15.
So, the corollary to that has to be that if you participate once your helmet is off, then you get a 15.
So you can actually end up with two 15 yard penalties - one of the player for participating beyond the immediate action he is engaged in, and another for someone then hitting him.
The basic idea is that a player without a helmet on is, by definition, out of the play and defenseless.
It all comes back to the recent (last 5-7 years or so) focus on concussions.
So, say if you're a ball carrier that happens to lose his helmet somehow coming through the pile, and you've got miles of green in front of you, you're supposed to stop? That sounds even more dangerous.
Hey I have another question for you, Mr. Ref:
How the hell do you guys figure out where punts went out of bounds when it just flies out (as in, doesn't bounce OOB, it just crosses the line at some point while in the air)? Seems like it would be a pita. What do you look at, etc?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
So, say if you're a ball carrier that happens to lose his helmet somehow coming through the pile, and you've got miles of green in front of you, you're supposed to stop? That sounds even more dangerous.
Actually, the rule is different when it is the ball carrier.
If anyone in posession of the ball loses their helmet, the ball becomes dead immediately.
That is so gay. Concussions or no, it's so gay.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
Hey I have another question for you, Mr. Ref:
How the hell do you guys figure out where punts went out of bounds when it just flies out (as in, doesn't bounce OOB, it just crosses the line at some point while in the air)? Seems like it would be a pita. What do you look at, etc?
If you notice, the side or field judge will start back with their hand in the air, then walk up the sideline. The referee (guy who stands back with the punter in the white hat) actually is responsible for spotting where a ball in flight goes out of bounds. So the side or field judge walks up the sideline until the referee signals he is in the right spot, then he just turns and marks the ball at that spot.
The referee is the only one who is really going to have the right angle to make a decent judgement about where it goes out of bounds in the air. Even then it is pretty approximate.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
That is so gay. Concussions or no, it's so gay.
Not as gay as some 20 year old kid who can never play again because he can't figure out how to tie his shoes anymore, or the ridiculously high rate that ex-professional football players develop Alzheimers and other brain malfunctions.
Quote from: Berkut on September 30, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
That is so gay. Concussions or no, it's so gay.
Not as gay as some 20 year old kid who can never play again because he can't figure out how to tie his shoes anymore, or the ridiculously high rate that ex-professional football players develop Alzheimers and other brain malfunctions.
Blowing the play dead ain't going to bring back Junior Seau, man.
Quote from: Berkut on September 30, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
If you notice, the side or field judge will start back with their hand in the air, then walk up the sideline. The referee (guy who stands back with the punter in the white hat) actually is responsible for spotting where a ball in flight goes out of bounds. So the side or field judge walks up the sideline until the referee signals he is in the right spot, then he just turns and marks the ball at that spot.
The referee is the only one who is really going to have the right angle to make a decent judgement about where it goes out of bounds in the air. Even then it is pretty approximate.
Ah ha. That makes sense. I had forgotten about the guy back there with the punter. I had always thought the guy who walked along the sidelines to mark the spot somehow managed to see where it crossed OOB, but also was thinking about how bad the angle is, etc.
Anyway, I saw a ref walk it off again today while eating out and ignoring the people I was with, and was going to ask you about it in the NFL thread when I got home. This worked too. :P Thanks, Berk.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 30, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
E: Hey Texas has opened up at -6.5 over WVU. Heh.
It's now -7. But WVU historically does not do well on the road-- unless it happens to be a BCS bowl game :D
I predict 35-31 Texas.
I am really looking forward to it. It almost has the feel of a big OOC game like when Ohio State came rolling in here six years ago. Should be WV people everywhere downtown by Friday night.
Quote from: Valmy on October 01, 2012, 11:04:30 AM
I am really looking forward to it. It almost has the feel of a big OOC game like when Ohio State came rolling in here six years ago. Should be WV people everywhere downtown by Friday night.
They have small clusters of dudes in overalls & ZZ Top beards who seem to travel a lot-- hope you get a glimpse of them. I honestly don't know if they're naturally like that or are just playing to the stereotype but they're a hoot nonetheless.
I had to give my tickets away for big red's visit to Ohio stadium. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 03, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
I had to give my tickets away for big red's visit to Ohio stadium. :(
Allergic to corn?
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http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/
:D
Fun weekend for the Big 12. Some great match-ups:
Oklahoma at Texas Tech @ 2:30 CST on ABC/ESPN2.
West Virginia at Texas @ 6:00 CST on FOX
and TCU at Iowa State @ 2:30 CST just got interesting since TCU lost their 20th scholarship player this week. Their starting QB got a DWI and is suspended. But since he was so horrible anyway this might be an upgrade for them. Still think TCU is going to be lucky to win another game this year with their attrition. I bet the Mountain West wishes TCU had had a total roster melt down like this.
I think the FX noon game is Kansas vs. Kansas State though :bleeding:
Oh MBM I am hearing rumors Anthony Fera will be kicking this week against West Virginia :)
I dreamt both last night and the night before about the WVU-Texas game. That hasn't ever happened before :unsure:
And for some reason I have the Texas fight song stuck in my head. That has happened before.
Quote from: derspiess on October 05, 2012, 10:33:39 AM
I dreamt both last night and the night before about the WVU-Texas game. That hasn't ever happened before :unsure:
And for some reason I have the Texas fight song stuck in my head. That has happened before.
I hope this means Texas scored alot in your dreams.
I haven't been this excited for a home game since 2008. Good times.
Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2012, 11:02:45 AM
I hope this means Texas scored alot in your dreams.
Both dreams ended sometime in the 1st Quarter. The first dream ended when it was 7-7 and last night's ended with WVU up 13-7 (missed PAT) and they had just intercepted.
I got some tickets for the NV-WY game tomorrow.
Edit: Ticket prices have quadrupled now that they are in the Mtn West. :(
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 05, 2012, 02:58:08 PM
I got some tickets for the NV-WY game tomorrow.
Edit: Ticket prices have quadrupled now that they are in the Mtn West. :(
Damn youse!
If I hadn't spent all my travel money going to SoCal the last few months I would fly out there and claim your couch for a weekend.
Watch Wyoming give up 350 yards on the ground...
In honor of Ducks/Huskies week it's time for this again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbs00B7fqJU&feature=fvwrel
KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!! KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!
Lol Ohio St.
:lol:
Man, BYU really has a solid argument for having the worst kicker in the nation. They consistently go for it on 4th when they're within even shitty college kicker range, then right at the end of the half when they got a nice TD in :25, he misses the PAT.
E: oof. And now Utah State just turned the ball over inside their own 10.
E2: And BYU gets nothing out of the turnover because of the kicking issue. That's crazy that he can't be trusted to make like a 20 yard FG.
I can't make a 20 yard field goal either.
On my way to Eugene for the ducks game, its a 60 minutes drive from here, for a game which doesn't start for 7 hours. It's gonna be a long day.
I'm also off to the tailgatey thing. Party time. :)
Somewhere in my city OvB is finding a couch to burn in case of a WV victory. Well talk to you guys after the game.
welp
Long day for Longhorns
Today has been chock full of heady SEC goodness.
Watching my wife almost cry when the Hoosiers blew it against Sparty was worth it.
Georgia is suffering the death of a thousand cuts by The Visor of Pain.
Too many important games on at once. Ugh.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 06:46:46 PM
Georgia is suffering the death of a thousand cuts by The Visor of Pain.
Wish he'd go ahead and retire, let SC go back to being just better than Kentucky.
Angry Urban is gonna show up if special team mistakes keep happening.
I :wub: Robey. SYNERGY!
Texas/WVU is turning out as everyone expected.
Enjoying the WVU/Texas game, but no ass shots of the chaps strippers yet. :(
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 06, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Texas/WVU is turning out as everyone expected.
It's about time Texas decided to wake the fuck up.
Spurrier :wub:
QuoteHis thoughts on the Georgia-South Carolina game moving from the second week of the season to the sixth week in 2012.
"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."
Christ, Nebraska. What the fuck.
Well, on the bright side, I don't think Arizona has much contention for "Best 3-3 team in the country...".
:sad:
My emotions are being toyed with.
I'm getting more nervous for Huskies game after third straight unimpressive performance by LSU.
If we got our asses handed by them, how bad is Oregon gonna throttle them?
Someone needs to fire the special teams coaches for the West Virginia and Texas teams.
I flipped it to the ND game to see the SS Helmets. Hilarious.
I've noticed Ohio state is much dirtier this year. THANKS URBAN!
Texas will be poo till they learn how to stop the run.
:bleeding: Oregon unis.
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
:bleeding: Oregon unis.
You know, I've read and heard thing about how the more outlandish uniforms appeal to players nowday, so you have to have them in order to help recruiting, but A) plenty of top programs seem to get by fine without them, and B) if you chose which college to go to based on the uniforms, you might not have enough sense to learn the playbook anyway (but then, at least you can keep your uniform clean riding the bench).
Hats off to WV they made the plays and Texas did not. Texas' buncha sophmores just did not have the maturity there at the end. Still a year or two away I think. Still think they can pull off 11-2 or 10-3 this year.
WV's defense did a great job against Texas' run and that has to concern the coaching staff.
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Texas will be poo till they learn how to stop the run.
Eh I think Texas has alot of things to improve but I think they are getting there.
Holy crap, what a win for WVU and what a great game. So many lead changes and momentum changes. I feel worn out.
Quote from: dps on October 06, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
:bleeding: Oregon unis.
You know, I've read and heard thing about how the more outlandish uniforms appeal to players nowday, so you have to have them in order to help recruiting, but A) plenty of top programs seem to get by fine without them, and B) if you chose which college to go to based on the uniforms, you might not have enough sense to learn the playbook anyway (but then, at least you can keep your uniform clean riding the bench).
WVU felt they had to add the horrible gray uniforms to help with recruiting. I hope this uniform trend is just a fad & we'll be laughing at it 3 or 4 years from now like we do those cut-off jerseys from the mid-80s
I liked WVU greys. Then again, I only favor a different uniform for one game only a season.
Sweet Jesus. Urban has mounted Big Red.
Fucking Nebraska. Fucking Texas. And fucking Oregon already. Assholes ruining my evening.
Just glad I had put big confidence points on Florida and South Carolina.
So, how 'bout that Ol' Ball Coach? Bit of a statement on Georgia, in a we-just-raped-your-mother-in-front-of-you statement.
edit: Jesus fucking Christ, Huskies. I saw that defensive back on Thursday sitting on that rout. YOU PRESS AND HOLD THE RECEIVER BUTTON FOR A SHARP PASS YOU DONT TAP IT
You slutty Oregon cheerleaders. Such naughty, naughty abdomens.
I'm loving how the cameras get confused when miller and Martinez do the option hide the ball play. :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Holy crap, what a win for WVU and what a great game. So many lead changes and momentum changes. I feel worn out.
Yeah great win by WV. But you might be in for alot of games like that this year. Against both Texas and Baylor WV had a chance to run away with it and let them back in the game. Maybe the team enjoys the drama. Or I could be totally wrong and both Baylor and Texas were just awesome when they went into panic mode.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 06, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
Sweet Jesus. Urban has mounted Big Red.
I figured with the way they kept managing to find their assholes with both hands all season, this would be the night Fucky Fuckeye would finally get reamed by a unshod ear of corn.
But, nice to see that Big XII escapees are still fucking escapees from a shitty unstable Polock conference. Fuck.
Well that was a great game . I just got back. Wyoming's coaching staff has to be kicking themselves for taking a knee with more than a minute left in the 4th. Should have at least tried to score rather than just letting it go to OT.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:15:23 PM
Fucking Texas.
What did Texas do? Was that not a very entertaining game of football? It came down to the final seconds what did you want? Triple-Overtime?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
But, nice to see that Big XII escapees are still fucking escapees from a shitty unstable Polock conference. Fuck.
LOL I am amused you are so asshurt.
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:15:23 PM
Fucking Texas.
What did Texas do? Was that not a very entertaining game of football? It came down to the final seconds what did you want? Triple-Overtime?
They had no business letting WVU roll up that many fucking points on them. :mad: SHAMEFULL
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2012, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
But, nice to see that Big XII escapees are still fucking escapees from a shitty unstable Polock conference. Fuck.
LOL I am amused you are so asshurt.
I see how it is. Now they're gone, you disown their Big XIIness. Pfft.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:26:42 PM
They had no business letting WVU roll up that many fucking points on them. :mad: SHAMEFULL
I wish I could agree with you but Texas' defense is just not that good this year. They are going to give up points and yards by the ass load. They are horrible in the linebacker and safety positions and when you got jack and shit down the middle of the field you are going to have a hard time.
And I refuse to watch Arizona anymore. So much potential, so much unfulfilled heartbreak. It's like watching my college transcripts scroll by in real time.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:28:50 PM
I see how it is. Now they're gone, you disown their Big XIIness. Pfft.
Nebraska threw away prime recruiting grounds in the South and all their traditional rivalries. I have no idea why they did it but their program has no direction, is an outsider, and is going to have a hard time attracting talent. So I do not expect much from them. I noticed Tom Osborne got the fuck out, I think he realized his enormous mistake.
Besides you need to be saving your rage and emotional energy for the Orioles-Yankees game tommorow.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:31:37 PM
And I refuse to watch Arizona anymore. So much potential, so much unfulfilled heartbreak. It's like watching my college transcripts scroll by in real time.
:lol:
RichRod is a 'tard.
Holy crap Florida State just flushed their season down the crapper against a shitty ACC team yet again. How do they keep doing this? At least it wasn't Wake Forest this time.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 06, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
Well that was a great game . I just got back. Wyoming's coaching staff has to be kicking themselves for taking a knee with more than a minute left in the 4th. Should have at least tried to score rather than just letting it go to OT.
The QB choices were a true freshman who can run (but can't pass well) and who doesn't know the offense, or a backup who lost to a D1a team...we saw how that true freshman was able to run the offense in the OT...
Since the started got kicked out for his second unsportsmanlike after complaining about a pass interference that wasn't called.
Mountain West refs once again manage to screw both teams...the home team wins.
WHY IS MILLER IN WITH LESS THAN 3 MINUTES AND UP BY 18?
This is the snake bit year for Wyoming - they did well last year and now they get ass-fucked by a gay 300 lb biker named "Kingsnake" each game. Oh well, there is always that still undefeated Wyoming basketball team...
Urban just hit the rape button on the controller.
It sucks being a fan. I am going to bed and I am not waking up til next Thursday.
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2012, 10:42:03 PM
Holy crap Florida State just flushed their season down the crapper against a shitty ACC team yet again. How do they keep doing this? At least it wasn't Wake Forest this time.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhyup. NC State has a bit of talent this year, but C'MON MAN
Goddamn, Oregon has some fine brunettes. Cheerleaders, too.
12 rows up from the visitors bench on the 6 yard.line.
I can confirm CdM's views on Oregon's cheerleaders
Quote from: sbr on October 06, 2012, 11:12:52 PM
12 rows up from the visitors bench on the 6 yard.line.
I can confirm CdM's views on Oregon's cheerleaders
How are the concessions? Anything good? Or your typical stadium food?
We tailgated for 4 hours and my buddy made a ridiculous seafood boil. I haven't even thought about food since I've been on the stadium. Prices were silly tho.
No alcohol in the stadium, had to walk 5 minutes to get s beer at halftime.
Quote from: PDH on October 06, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
It sucks being a fan. I am going to bed and I am not waking up til next Thursday.
I met a lot of Wyo fans there. Frankly, I was shocked how many of them came down here. Those guys really travel for their team.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 06, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2012, 10:42:03 PM
Holy crap Florida State just flushed their season down the crapper against a shitty ACC team yet again. How do they keep doing this? At least it wasn't Wake Forest this time.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhyup. NC State has a bit of talent this year, but C'MON MAN
Lol, the ACC. Not only are there some bad OOC losses in there, but everybody but Miami, Maryland, and Duke has at least 1 conference loss as well.
Still, you ought to be happy--Maryland's alone in 1st in the Atlantic.
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
Yeah great win by WV.
It was a huge win for the program. The team historically chokes when it has a big game against a top tier program, so to go into such an intimidating environment where they're picked to lose by a touchdown and come out with a win-- I'd put it in their top 10 all-time wins, possibly even in the top 5.
QuoteBut you might be in for alot of games like that this year. Against both Texas and Baylor WV had a chance to run away with it and let them back in the game. Maybe the team enjoys the drama. Or I could be totally wrong and both Baylor and Texas were just awesome when they went into panic mode.
Their inability to shut the door late in the game is troublesome, but I'm kind of numb to it at this point, mainly due to the fact that the Bengals rarely win by much more than a touchdown.
WVU has a soft defense-- no doubt about that. And that will cost them 2 or more games this year. If they finish 10-2 & in the top 10 or 15, end up going to a decent bowl and Geno Smith ends up a Heisman finalist I'll be happy. If they can figure out how to hold teams under 20 points I'll be ecstatic. But right now I'm taking it one week at a time.
Quote from: dps on October 06, 2012, 11:38:13 PM
Still, you ought to be happy--Maryland's alone in 1st in the Atlantic.
That's like being happy for the retarded kid who's in first because the rest of the retards have already tripped over themselves, and he hasn't. Yet.
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
WVU has a soft defense-- no doubt about that. And that will cost them 2 or more games this year.
Including whatever real bowl opponent they draw this year.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
WVU has a soft defense-- no doubt about that. And that will cost them 2 or more games this year.
Including whatever real bowl opponent they draw this year.
That's what was said before last year's Orange Bowl.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
WVU has a soft defense-- no doubt about that. And that will cost them 2 or more games this year.
Including whatever real bowl opponent they draw this year.
That's what was said before last year's Orange Bowl.
From what I've seen so far, last year's WVU team actually had a defense in comparison and actually managed to hold teams under 30 points.
But that's OK, go ahead and be defensive and enjoy your little bubble.
GODDAMMIT MACK WHY DID YOU CALL THAT TIMEOUT
Oh hey I just got home. :P
QuoteAP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD
1 Alabama (60) 5-0
2 Oregon 6-0
3 South Carolina 6-0
4 Florida 5-0
5 West Virginia 5-0
6 Kansas State 5-0
7 Notre Dame 5-0
8 Ohio State 6-0
9 LSU 5-1
10 Oregon State 4-0
11 USC 4-1
12 Florida State 5-1
13 Oklahoma 3-1
14 Georgia 5-1
15 Texas 4-1
16 Clemson 5-1
17 Stanford 4-1
18 Louisville 5-0
19 Mississippi State 5-0
20 Rutgers 5-0
21 Cincinnati 4-0
22 Texas A&M 4-1
23 Louisiana Tech 5-0
24 Boise State 4-1
25 Michigan 3-2
Dropped from rankings: TCU 15, Nebraska 21, Washington 23, Northwestern 24, UCLA 25
For the next big Top 5 brawls for the next two weeks:
I just don't see Kansas State hanging with WVU in two weeks.
South Carolina has got road games to LSU and Florida the next two weeks. Just don't see them surviving both of them.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
Oh hey I just got home. :P
I just got home myself, what a 24 hours.
That was my first college football game since I was in college myself. My friends have a great parking/tailgate spot just across the road from the main parking lot and a 5 minute walk to Autzen. Drank and ate may too much before the game, yelled too much during the game, drank too much after the game again. Shared a queen size bed with my buddy who got me the ticket. There are rumors of attempted drunken snuggling I can neither confirm nor deny. Woke up this morning and couldn't find my toothbrush and didn't have time for a shower. Went out to breakfast in Eugene, and guess who's order the kitchen forgot to make? I ended up getting my meal free. Then a 90 minute drive with 4 stinky, gassy, hungover guys in a king cab pickup to my car, where I found my toothbrush.
The Autzen experience was all it was cracked up to be, to bad the Huskies couldn't compete on the field. I stand by my comment from a couple of weeks ago that the female talent in Eugene is overrated nationally but it was better than I remembered and expected. All in all a great time, but I couldn't imagine doing that more than once or twice a year, especially with the 7:30 PM local start.
View from the seats
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On the field after the game. The blurry head in front is my buddy who walked in front right as I took the picture.
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Quote from: sbr on October 07, 2012, 02:44:44 PM
Shared a queen size bed with my buddy who got me the ticket. There are rumors of attempted drunken snuggling I can neither confirm nor deny.
The Total Fan Experience(tm).
Excellent photo from the seats.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
From what I've seen so far, last year's WVU team actually had a defense in comparison and actually managed to hold teams under 30 points.
But that's OK, go ahead and be defensive and enjoy your little bubble.
Well you have to give a little credit to the Big 12 offenses. They can make lots of defenses look bad...or least they can make defenses look worse than Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville can.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
I just don't see Kansas State hanging with WVU in two weeks.
Don't underestimate K-State. They may do it ugly but they can hang 50 on you if you are not careful.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
GODDAMMIT MACK WHY DID YOU CALL THAT TIMEOUT
Oh hey I just got home. :P
Mack is not exactly a master of clock management.
Told you the Texas defense was no good. Harsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
I just don't see Kansas State hanging with WVU in two weeks.
Don't underestimate K-State. They may do it ugly but they can hang 50 on you if you are not careful.
And I fully expect WVU to drop 51 on them. :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 03:34:35 PM
And I fully expect WVU to drop 51 on them. :lol:
We'll see. K-State actually can play some defense.
My turn.
The couple on the right came in from Casper.
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Kicking an XP. The confetti from the TD still in the air.
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Sunset in the MW.
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Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
Mack is not exactly a master of clock management.
Told you the Texas defense was no good. Harsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.
Yeah the Texas defense didn't lose that game, guy. You're delusional if you think they were going to shut down WVU. They needed to get some stops and give the O an opportunity. They did that. The D got two turnovers straight from Geno Smith, including one that was recovery in the endzone and another they recovered inside the 15 that the offense didn't do shit with.
E: Were those the first turnovers from that guy? Were those the first turnovers by any WVU starter this season period? I'm not seeing any others except a pick by the backup. Damn Texas D.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
From what I've seen so far, last year's WVU team actually had a defense in comparison and actually managed to hold teams under 30 points.
But that's OK, go ahead and be defensive and enjoy your little bubble.
Well you have to give a little credit to the Big 12 offenses. They can make lots of defenses look bad...or least they can make defenses look worse than Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville can.
But this year's WVU isn't going to be trailing around ranked in the low 20s, drawing bowls with ACC types like Clemson or Georgia Tech that they can muscle through: moving to the Big XII totally changes the picture; combine that with how this team is most likely going to stay ranked in the Top 5-Top 10, and that's a whole different crop of potential bowl opponents if they're going to compete for the national title.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443615804578042493601051484.html
Lol. :lol:
Ohio State is the Dick Cheney of the NCAA.
It gets annoying being the sports media's whipping boy all the time, but it's also kinda cool to always be the underdog.
Great pictures MiM. It is beautiful up there.
Oh yeah, I forgot one of the best parts of the night. The place my friends park has a private porta-potty, there is a padlock on the door and the people who pay to park there get a key for it. The space and the toilet are right on the main road outside the stadium and the main parking lot so there are a LOT of people who want to use that porta-potty without realizing it is private. That created a lot of chances to be an asshole by shutting and locking the door on some poor dude who has been waiting to pee, or to work a deal to let someone in. :perv:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
From what I've seen so far, last year's WVU team actually had a defense in comparison and actually managed to hold teams under 30 points.
But that's OK, go ahead and be defensive and enjoy your little bubble.
Remember WVU played in the Big East last year. Anyway I'd actually prefer they be considered the underdog in whichever bowl they end up in-- they always play best with a chip on their shoulders.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 07, 2012, 03:55:51 PM
My turn.
You jerks just made me realize I haven't been to a college game yet this year. Not even a UC game.
Ugh, just ugh.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
Yeah the Texas defense didn't lose that game, guy. You're delusional if you think they were going to shut down WVU. They needed to get some stops and give the O an opportunity. They did that. The D got two turnovers straight from Geno Smith, including one that was recovery in the endzone and another they recovered inside the 15 that the offense didn't do shit with.
They were able to put lots of pressure on Smith, which on many plays took away WVU's deep attack. In addition to the two fumbles, of course.
What was odd about that game btw is that despite both teams scoring in the 40s, neither QB had 300 yards passing.
QuoteE: Were those the first turnovers from that guy? Were those the first turnovers by any WVU starter this season period? I'm not seeing any others except a pick by the backup. Damn Texas D.
Correct. I thought they had some fumbles from RBs, but no, that's it.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
They were able to put lots of pressure on Smith, which on many plays took away WVU's deep attack. In addition to the two fumbles, of course.
What was odd about that game btw is that despite both teams scoring in the 40s, neither QB had 300 yards passing.
There were lots of "hidden" yards on those special teams plays, until both teams started squib kicking/sending it short/etc.
QuoteCorrect. I thought they had some fumbles from RBs, but no, that's it.
To make it five games (well into the 5th, you know what I mean) until your first "real" turnover is pretty impressive. It's too bad (not for you, obviously) the Horns DBs weren't able to hold on the couple times they got their hands on a pass.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
There were lots of "hidden" yards on those special teams plays, until both teams started squib kicking/sending it short/etc.
Tavon Austin had over 100 yards from his first two kickoff returns. Very smart adjustment for Texas to start squibbing it.
QuoteTo make it five games (well into the 5th, you know what I mean) until your first "real" turnover is pretty impressive. It's too bad (not for you, obviously) the Horns DBs weren't able to hold on the couple times they got their hands on a pass.
Pretty agonizing when they happened. Was pretty sure each one was going to be the difference in the game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
Yeah the Texas defense didn't lose that game, guy. You're delusional if you think they were going to shut down WVU.
Well I guess I am delusional then. Hard to win when they bring in some nobody running back and he runs right up the middle for 200+ yards all game.
I kinda get the feeling Valmy and MBM are arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. "We lost because we gave up too many points." "No, you idiot, we lost because we didn't score enough." :hmm:
E: ^^ No, the Horns lost because WVU is just better. Or at least they were better for those 60 minutes last night. vOv
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Well I guess I am delusional then. Hard to win when they bring in some nobody running back and he runs right up the middle for 200+ yards all game.
You should probably understand that it isn't on one unit, no matter how much you want to place the blame solely on the defense. O, D, and ST all made plays and all had fuckups. Texas simply got flat out beaten by a better team.
e2: Really. Despite their issues, I can't just take a dump on the defense when they directly put 6 on the board, and put them within 15 yards of another 6 when those points were needed quite a bit. Just like I can't shit on the offense for the loss because they can't move the ball 15 yards at a critical point, etc. Special teams were wildly inconsistent as well. Blocked a FG, but gave up 100+ yards on back to back kickoff returns as spiess mentioned, but also had some nice returns themselves. Made a FG, missed a FG that shouldn't have been that long in the first place.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 07, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
I kinda get the feeling Valmy and MBM are arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. "We lost because we gave up too many points." "No, you idiot, we lost because we didn't score enough." :hmm:
I wanna know what Bill thinks.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 07, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
I kinda get the feeling Valmy and MBM are arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. "We lost because we gave up too many points." "No, you idiot, we lost because we didn't score enough." :hmm:
I wanna know what Bill thinks.
Lack of focusness, most likely.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Well I guess I am delusional then. Hard to win when they bring in some nobody running back and he runs right up the middle for 200+ yards all game.
To be fair, Buie is turning out to be a solid RB and WVU tends to be fairly deep in that position. Steve Slaton started his freshman season as the 4th string RB and ended up being the Sugar Bowl MVP that year.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 07, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
I kinda get the feeling Valmy and MBM are arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. "We lost because we gave up too many points." "No, you idiot, we lost because we didn't score enough." :hmm:
I wanna know what Bill thinks.
Screw that-- I want to know what the Knox City Greyhounds guy thinks.
Just for shits & gigs I checked ESPN's current bowl projections. Both guys have WVU vs. Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. I'd like me some revenge for what happened back on January 2, 1989.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
Just for shits & gigs I checked ESPN's current bowl projections. Both guys have WVU vs. Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. I'd like me some revenge for what happened back on January 2, 1989.
Major Harris. :punk:
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
I'd like me some revenge for what happened back on January 2, 1989.
Major Harris. :rolleyes: The only thing that needs to be avenged is Nehlen's quarterback recruiting. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:57:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
I'd like me some revenge for what happened back on January 2, 1989.
Major Harris. :rolleyes: The only thing that needs to be avenged is Nehlen's quarterback recruiting. :P
Raciss.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 11:05:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:57:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
I'd like me some revenge for what happened back on January 2, 1989.
Major Harris. :rolleyes: The only thing that needs to be avenged is Nehlen's quarterback recruiting. :P
Raciss.
Nuh uh. Tony Rice.
But don't worry, Jeff Hostetler sucked ass too, so it was a rainbow of suckitude in the 80s. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 11:08:10 PM
But don't worry, Jeff Hostetler sucked ass too, so it was a rainbow of suckitude in the 80s. :P
HEY NOW.
And don't even think about badmouthing Oliver Luck.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 11:11:12 PM
And don't even think about badmouthing Oliver Luck.
AKA, That White Guy Before That Black Guy From Canada.
But, at least he lasted longer than Ohio State's Finest, Art Schichter.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 07, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
I kinda get the feeling Valmy and MBM are arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. "We lost because we gave up too many points." "No, you idiot, we lost because we didn't score enough." :hmm:
Even if Texas lost because they didn't score enough the fact remains that in every single game the defense has been bad.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2012, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
From what I've seen so far, last year's WVU team actually had a defense in comparison and actually managed to hold teams under 30 points.
But that's OK, go ahead and be defensive and enjoy your little bubble.
Well you have to give a little credit to the Big 12 offenses. They can make lots of defenses look bad...or least they can make defenses look worse than Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville can.
But this year's WVU isn't going to be trailing around ranked in the low 20s, drawing bowls with ACC types like Clemson or Georgia Tech that they can muscle through: moving to the Big XII totally changes the picture; combine that with how this team is most likely going to stay ranked in the Top 5-Top 10, and that's a whole different crop of potential bowl opponents if they're going to compete for the national title.
Actually, if they're not in the BCS title game, the Big 12 champion is supposed to play in the Fiesta Bowl, and their opponent will be either the Big East champ or an at-large team, so it could be a weaker team.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2012, 11:11:12 PM
And don't even think about badmouthing Oliver Luck.
AKA, That White Guy Before That Black Guy From Canada.
But, at least he lasted longer than Ohio State's Finest, Art Schichter.
HEY NOW
I wa just realize that Arizona has played 6 games, 4 against ranked opponents.
They are 1-3 against those ranked opponents. One blowout (although it was much closer than the score indicated), and two losses to excellent teams by one score or less.
SO normally you would be thinking "All right, brutal schedule there, should loosen up a bit now, and we can get some wins against the non-great teams in the coference, right?"
Not so much. The rest of the schedule just seems to be as nasty as the start. Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Utah, ASU.
We get the Huskies at home, that game is certainly winnable. USC is a loss. UCLA is a 50-50, Colorado is a W, Utah 50-50, and of course ASU is a win.
Arizona could go 8-4 or 4-8.
My actual prediction for the Cats*:
Washington: Beat them by a couple TDs at home. Arizona is due.
USC: Yeah...no.
UCLA: We get a break on the road to pull out a close win for a change.
Colorado: Crunch.
Utah: Let down game, lose another close game.
ASU: ASU has no answer for Karey coming into his own, he rushes for 150+, Scott throws for 300, and ASU goes away sad. Todd Graham announces by Facebook post after the game that he accepted a position in the CFL.
End the season 7-5 in a brutally balanced Pac-12.
*-All predictions based on Matt Scott staying healthy. Absent Scott, we win 1 more game at best.
I have not watched more than a few minutes of Arizona games yet but I'm curious to see how RichRod does with the program. Does he have the types of guys he needs to run his offense?
Quote from: derspiess on October 08, 2012, 11:22:01 AM
I have not watched more than a few minutes of Arizona games yet but I'm curious to see how RichRod does with the program. Does he have the types of guys he needs to run his offense?
Well, Arizona is in the top 3 or 5 or something for offense in the country, so apparently he has something.
Oddly enough, it isn't really "his" offense per se though - Scott is pretty much just throwing the ball like crazy, and not running much since we have nobody behind him.
Last word on the WV game: the UT crowd really brought it. Loud and proud I was glad to see that. Anyway on to the most sacred week of the Texas Football season.
To begin this festive week I will bring up something that sucks far far harder than the middle of UT's defense.
And of course I speak of:
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Awesome. I've never liked Oklahoma.
Pachall is withdrawing from TCU and going into rehab.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20524489/
That's what, 20? 21? scholarship players they've lost now? They might have fewer on their roster than Penn State now. Their schedule isn't doing them any favors either. Remaining games:
Tech
@Okie State
@WVU
KState
@Texas (Thanksgiving)
OU
They need two wins out of that to get to a bowl.
TCU is unlikely to win any more games. Total disaster of a season. Worse this may lead to Patterson leaving. Ugh.
Big 12 should have taken Wyoming and left TCU in the MWC.
Twitter says beano cook died in his sleep last night. :(
Quote from: sbr on October 11, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
Twitter says beano cook died in his sleep last night. :(
:( :( :(
I remember Dan Patrick's show on ESPN Radio a few years back, and he and his guests were talking about music they listened to growing up, when they had to segue into Beano's segment.
"Hey Beano, what was your favorite band back in your youth?"
"Ohio State's." :lol:
True loss for college football fans.
:bleeding: Already lost another LB.
:lol:
1st quarter: Texas, 14 yards, no first downs.
Red Run Route.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
:lol:
1st quarter: Texas, 14 yards, no first downs.
Red Run Route.
Also damn near a turnover inside the 30. Only unit doing consistently well right now is special teams.
Wow. Ash got out of that, had a guy for a first down, then it was dropped. Seems about right.
Texas has officially melted down for the season.
Nah. Standard Mack Brown era OU week meltdown. This happens all the time even with pretty good Texas teams.
Diaz better be careful though. Mack probably won't catch any heat, and Harsin isn't going anywhere with the built in excuse from last year, but I don't know if Manny has been around long enough to get some of that loyalty "built up."
Between last week and this week, I think it's a little more than a Standard Mack Brown bedshitting.
Why would you think that?
Shitty tackling, injuries, blown passes. Little more endemic than prepared Sooners team.
But that's OK, you think these are just anomalies and they can recover from two straight ranked losses, hey, hook 'em.
:huh:
I guess the reason you weren't able to quote me saying that is because I didn't. They'll probably lose to Baylor next week, reel off four straight, then lose to K-State. What is that, 8-4 going in to something like the Holiday Bowl? Win that, there's 9 and hey progress.
Getting smoked by OU is a Mack Brown special though. He owns I think the three worst losses to them by Texas ever.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 12:30:23 PM
:huh:
I guess the reason you weren't able to quote me saying that is because I didn't.
You asked me why I would say that. So I fucking told you.
This Texas offense is better than this. They have no business being this shitty this season.
And they have such hot girls, too. Shameful.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
You asked me why I would say that. So I fucking told you.
Sure, but then you said:
QuoteBut that's OK, you think these are just anomalies and they can recover from two straight ranked losses, hey, hook 'em.
Which is what I talking about quoting, tough guy. :lol: Anyway, I'm not sure why you think those things are unique to these two games in this particular season.
QuoteThis Texas offense is better than this. They have no business being this shitty this season.
The whole Texas team is better than
this but they aren't better than 9 wins this season. Seems about right considering the schedule. E: 9 including the bowl game. That would actually mean a winning Big 12 record. That might need to be revised. :hmm:
Bill finds your lack of faith disturbing.
Bill remembers much more lean times than 9 win seasons, I'm sure, assuming he was focusing back in the 80s/early 90s.
Hm. They were helping someone off the field int he background there as Stoops was running off the field. One of the guys who made that tackle, I guess, but I couldn't see a number.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
This Texas offense is better than this. They have no business being this shitty this season.
Not really. Texas had a young offensive line that struggled all last year, this was supposed to be a growing year for them. The defense was supposed to carry them and the defense is so bad it is Mackovickian bad.
And they are not melting down they just suck, and they have sucked consistently. The Linebackers and safeties are just hopeless out there.
Anyway the Horns are not cheering me up after the Orioles game last night :P
Gotta love Jesse Palmer: "Texas has serious issues on the field right now." Quality Florida education right there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Gotta love Jesse Palmer: "Texas has serious issues on the field right now." Quality Florida education right there.
Yeah. A weak offensive line and a gaping vagina in the middle of the defense. It is going to be a long year in Austin again. It is sorta funny the big question mark everybody was talking about was the Quarterback and that is the main thing that has gone right so far.
^^ Did you just now notice that the OL is a bunch of pussies? At least we've moved on from ITS ALL THE DS FAULT ARRRRGH! They aren't just young, they get pushed around and treated like bitches constantly. They need someone like Studdard there to make them stop acting like fat babies. Actually, just a bunch of Studdards on the line would be fine with me.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Gotta love Jesse Palmer: "Texas has serious issues on the field right now." Quality Florida education right there.
It's pretty amazing to me that Jesse Palmer was actually the most likable "color" guy on his announcing team last year (or whenever). The guy is an enormous tool, but he just didn't stand a chance against Craig James.
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:lol: Nice job, Case.
A FIRST DOWN! VICTORY IS AT HAND!
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 01:09:52 PM
^^ Did you just now notice that the OL is a bunch of pussies? At least we've moved on from ITS ALL THE DS FAULT ARRRRGH ! They aren't just young, they need someone like Studdard there to make them stop acting like fat babies
I never at any time said IT IS ALL THE Ds FAULT ARRRRGH. You put that shit in my mouth last game. All I have been saying is that the defense is horrible, when they should be good. Which is why it is unacceptable. I expected the offensive line to be weak so I just have no said much about it this year. But for Godsake I have been riding this offensive line for years so I don't know what you are talking about.
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
I never at any time said IT IS ALL THE Ds FAULT ARRRRGH. You put that shit in my mouth last game. All I have been saying is that the defense is horrible, when they should be good. Which is why it is unacceptable. I expected the offensive line to be weak so I just have no said much about it this year. But for Godsake I have been riding this offensive line for years so I don't know what you are talking about.
I didn't put anything in your mouth. (:blink:) I said you were delusional if you thought they were going to completely shut down WVU. You said "I'm delusional then" or something similar, and continued to talk about the D being shitty when they did enough to win that game. Who else were you blaming it on? You didn't mention them to me, and didn't respond to my post about all three units fucking up and having successes, etc.
Hey look, the D just put points on the board. Again. But of course something gets fucked up so they don't get the PAT.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 01:26:50 PM
I didn't put anything in your mouth. (:blink:) I said you were delusional if you thought they were going to completely shut down WVU. You said "I'm delusional then" or something similar, and continued to talk about the D being shitty when they did enough to win that game.
Hey look, the D just put points on the board. Again. But of course something gets fucked up so they don't get the PAT.
I did not think they were good enough to shut down WV but I sure expected more than they gave. And once again they are letting some nobody running back gash them for 9 yards a carry. They are just horrible, at least against WV you have to slow down their run. I have no idea why you keep calling me out for stating the obvious. I certainly find fault with the offense and I even said so in a later post. But the offense was who we thought they were, heck maybe even a little better. Surely you did not expect them to outscore everybody 50-48 this year.
But I guess I misread your post for some reason I thought you said something like I was delusional if I thought the defense could have done better than they did. I thought they would stop WV from gaining over 200+ yards rushing.
And as far as the D scoring points, well they still have a great defensive line and CBs and those are the guys scoring. But they are wasted with possibly the worst LB and Safety unit I have ever seen and I am a Big 12 fan.
I know Jesse Palmer said they should do it, but I would prefer if they didn't do these weird slow blitzes every play. Just play straight up, and, you know, maybe put someone over on the left side.
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
I did not think they were good enough to shut down WV but I sure expected more than they gave. And once again they are letting some nobody running back gash them for 9 yards a carry. They are just horrible, at least against WV you have to slow down their run. I have no idea why you keep calling me out for stating the obvious.
They put a TD on the board. They gave the O the ball back inside the 15. They absolutely did enough to win. Not by themselves, but enough for Texas to win. And I really did say "you're delusional if you thought they would shut down WVU," and you replied "Well, I'm delusional then." You really did. What would you think?
QuoteI certainly find fault with the offense and I even said so in a later post. But the offense was who we thought they were, heck maybe even a little better. Surely you did not expect them to outscore everybody 50-48 this year.
Of course I don't expect them to outscore everyone 50-48. I don't count WVU as "everyone."
The offense is definitely improved, and even though the defense clearly isn't the group of monsters they were last year, for whatever reason, they're still good enough to help the team win.
QuoteAnd as far as the D scoring points, well they still have a great defensive line and CBs and those are the guys scoring. But they are wasted with possibly the worst LB and Safety unit I have ever seen and I am a Big 12 fan.
Vaccaro is okay, like Gideon was okay. Phillips is a disaster though. I don't know what he's looking at half the time he's out there. The LBs are fucked, even more so with Hicks missing. But it's part of what I'm talking about. The remaining LBs and Adrian Phillips aren't "the D."
Hey nice blocking 78.
LOL Ash playing backyard football there.
Aw...then he fumbles it away after a nice run. Hope this game doesn't hurt his confidence.
Goddammit, another player down. Valmy, the one hurt at halftime was Goodwin, btw. :bleeding:
But hey look at ISU. Or something.
Jesus, they're bringing the cart out.
Oh wow, I forgot about the game today, came to this thread, winced a bit, said to myself HEY CANT BE THAT BAD, LETS CHECK THE SCORE ON ES--
Blow up the world. I don't care any more.
Has.....has Moore moved at all? :(
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
They put a TD on the board. They gave the O the ball back inside the 15. They absolutely did enough to win.
Yes that was horrible and that was certainly one of the main places Texas lost the game. But I said nothing about that. They gave up 200 yards rushing to WV's back up running back right up the middle. That was why I said the offense is going to have to put up 40+ points a game in order to win this year. And here we are with OU's struggling running game going right up the gut for 9 yards a carry. You are not going to beat anybody that way. If Texas had scored on that drive at the 15 WV was going to go right down the field. Texas might have lost anyway. But certainly Bergeron not being able to run over people in the 4th quarter was a serious concern but...
The fact of the matter this is the worst defense Mack Brown has ever had and with the personnel they had they should have been one of the best. This is underachievement on a staggering scale.
QuoteOf course I don't expect them to outscore everyone 50-48. I don't count WVU as "everyone."
Well they are going to have to unless Diaz can adjust. Blitzing less would be a start. They need more people back there.
WV may not be "everyone" on the passing side but their back-up RB sure is "everyone".
QuoteVaccaro is okay, like Gideon was okay. Phillips is a disaster though. I don't know what he's looking at half the time he's out there. The LBs are fucked, even more so with Hicks missing. But it's part of what I'm talking about. The remaining LBs and Adrian Phillips aren't "the D."
They are because that is where the other offense is going on every play. You are only as strong as your weakest link on defense.
Granted the whole team has sucked it up today. This just cannot continue to happen. It may be getting time for Mack to step down. We will see how the rest of the year goes.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
Has.....has Moore moved at all? :(
No. Horrible just horrible :(
They said he had movement in his upper body, but didn't mention his legs at all. I hope I'm not reading too much into that.
I am looking around to try to get an update on him.
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
Yes that was horrible and that was certainly one of the main places Texas lost the game. But I said nothing about that.
I did when I said they did enough to win and then mentioned that and the TD. You responded directly to that post, but you cut out that part for some reason.
QuoteThey gave up 200 yards rushing to WV's back up running back right up the middle. That was why I said the offense is going to have to put up 40+ points a game in order to win this year. And here we are with OU's struggling running game going right up the gut for 9 yards a carry. You are not going to beat anybody that way. If Texas had scored on that drive at the 15 WV was going to go right down the field. Texas might have lost anyway. But certainly Bergeron not being able to run over people in the 4th quarter was a serious concern but...
No, you said the offense is going to have to beat everyone 50-48. Putting up 40 points per game, well shit, they've actually been doing that until this meltdown where they haven't and very possibly won't score any. I don't know why you keep shitting on that WVU RB like he's automatically some sort of scrub or something. Johnathan Grey is the backup RB at Texas. Is he some nobody scrub that shouldn't be able to do anything? Fuck no.
The lack of a running game is on the pussy OL.
QuoteThe fact of the matter this is the worst defense Mack Brown has ever had and with the personnel they had they should have been one of the best. This is underachievement on a staggering scale.
It's underachievement on a scale that Mack Brown teams seem to realize almost every year at least somewhere. A Mack Brownian scale.
QuoteWell they are going to have to unless Diaz can adjust. Blitzing less would be a start. They need more people back there.
WV may not be "everyone" on the passing side but their back-up RB sure is "everyone".
The adjustment Diaz will make is BLITZ MORE! And they'll keep running straight by the plays.
QuoteThey are because that is where the other offense is going on every play. You are only as strong as your weakest link on defense.
Granted the whole team has sucked it up today. This just cannot continue to happen. It may be getting time for Mack to step down. We will see how the rest of the year goes.
The weakest link at this point seems to be Manny Diaz, really. As you say, there don't seem to be any changes to adjust to the strengths and weaknesses of the team. They just keep going like it's the same as last year, when it clearly isn't.
As far as Mack stepping down, he probably should have done so after the 2009 NC game. I like Mack, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the last 140 wins or whatever he has at Texas, not to mention that thing in 2005, but it really seems like it's time for a change. I wonder if Dodds would retire at the same time. Would that leave Texas with Plonsky only? That....I don't know how I feel about that.
Moore is okay, so that's good. Ash might be hurt now, which is not so good. CASE MCCOY TIME?! That would be about the time I change the channel.
E: Yeah that wrist looks fucked up. Medical redshirt is....40% of the season? Whatever it is, it's too late. Gonna be Case McCoy for a while if it's broken. Or maybe they'll just run nothing but the zone read with Overstreet. I think I would prefer that over Case.
Whoa, two years in the new conditioning program seems to have helped Case with that whole...throwing...thing. Still throws off his back foot, but at least he can send it more than 15 yards down field now.
Texas just got a touchdown, maybe they can come back. Just need 5-6 successful onside kicks and quick tds. :hmm:
Well it would have happened if those new onside kick rules didn't exist.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
No, you said the offense is going to have to beat everyone 50-48. Putting up 40 points per game, well shit, they've actually been doing that until this meltdown where they haven't and very possibly won't score any.
Ok I am really tired of this shit. I have no idea why you are calling me out every single game. What I said was
QuoteHarsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.
Which prompted you to rip me saying I was delusional blah blah.
Just like the previous week you ripped me for saying the games against OSU, WV, OU, and BU were huge and monstrous.
And now I get shit because I did not rip the offensive line sufficiently previously and it sends us into another stupid argument about nothing.
We basically agree on everything. So lets cut it out and be friends again.
Days like this makes Longhorn Nation sensitive.
Group hug.
E: ^^ Group hugs involving Domer fans? Yuck. I'm going to go see a movie instead. ^^
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
Ok I am really tired of this shit. I have no idea why you are calling me out every single game. What I said was
QuoteHarsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.
You're right, I was thinking about this last one where you were saying "surely I didn't think blahblah."
QuoteWhich prompted you to rip me saying I was delusional blah blah.
I didn't say you were delusional. I said you were delusional if you thought they would shut WVU down. Here's the posts, yo:
QuoteYeah the Texas defense didn't lose that game, guy. You're delusional if you think they were going to shut down WVU.
QuoteWell I guess I am delusional then. Hard to win when they bring in some nobody running back and he runs right up the middle for 200+ yards all game.
Right there, I said you're delusional if you think they'd shut WVU down. You said well I guess I'm delusional, implying you thought the defense would shut them down, which is crazy talk.
Then said this:
QuoteYou should probably understand that it isn't on one unit, no matter how much you want to place the blame solely on the defense. O, D, and ST all made plays and all had fuckups. Texas simply got flat out beaten by a better team.
You didn't respond. What am I supposed to think?
QuoteJust like the previous week you ripped me for saying the games against OSU, WV, OU, and BU were huge and monstrous.
I didn't rip you. Goddamn, dude. I said Baylor and OSU were important games they should win, just that I don't think they're HUGE MONSTER SHOWDOWNS or some garbage.
It's right here: http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,7699.765.html
Find where I'm "ripping" you. I don't think they're monster games. vOv I still don't.
QuoteAnd now I get shit because I did not rip the offensive line sufficiently previously and it sends us into another stupid argument about nothing.
We basically agree on everything. So lets cut it out and be friends again.
Not we don't really, but I don't see why we stopped e-friends somehow because I disagreed with some shit. I'm not sitting here calling you a bitch or something like you're grumbler, who I can't fucking stand.
Oh, valmy, did you see that screen shot of Ash's wrist/arm? That shit is broken, and Case McCoy is the starting QB now.
E: Here it is:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5HENCECMAA1mL9.jpg)
WELP
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
UTSA's QB (Eric Soza) is injured and out. 13 - 0 Rice so far. The streak is in danger.
E: He's back and is firing incomplete passes. 13 - 3 now off of an okay drive by the backup, Ryan Polite. They were stopped at the 1 though, so...well I guess that's still okay, considering.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 03:31:52 PM
Not we don't really, but I don't see why we stopped e-friends somehow because I disagreed with some shit. I'm not sitting here calling you a bitch or something like you're grumbler, who I can't fucking stand.
I am just frustrated by the agruments about nothing that go nowhere. We agree that Texas sucks and that is the important thing.
Ash's wrist is probably broken. When Mack was asked about Ash in the press conference he nearly teared up. This was his route 66 game. He needs to step down, I would hate to see the fans really turn against him after all the good stuff he has done.
Still nobody is saying anything about Brandon Moore. Fuck I hope he is ok.
WV is learning about the infernal magic of Lubbock I see. 35-7 Tech right now.
Hey Val, Texas and Ohio state signed a home and home agreement. For 2022 and 2023.
Today sucks. I want to go back to yesterday.
What the heck is up with Auburn, 1-5 with the W being overtime against LA-Monroe. :wacko:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 13, 2012, 04:29:29 PM
Hey Val, Texas and Ohio state signed a home and home agreement. For 2022 and 2023.
Sweet! I think UT is realizing they need at least one big OOC game a year. Or maybe with the new playoff thingy they realize TExas can still get in with one loss.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2012, 04:30:07 PM
Today sucks. I want to go back to yesterday.
I want to go back to Thursday myself :(
Great comeback by the Cards BTW.
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
I am just frustrated by the agruments about nothing that go nowhere. We agree that Texas sucks and that is the important thing.
I'm kind of looking forward to the potential tard fest with Case taking snaps next week.
QuoteAsh's wrist is probably broken. When Mack was asked about Ash in the press conference he nearly teared up. This was his route 66 game. He needs to step down, I would hate to see the fans really turn against him after all the good stuff he has done.
Still nobody is saying anything about Brandon Moore. Fuck I hope he is ok.
They mentioned something about Moore a little later in the game saying it was all "precautionary" because of "neck pain." They implied that he was going to be okay.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
I'm kind of looking forward to the potential tard fest with Case taking snaps next week.
Heh yeah it is going to be sorta entertaining. I feel like we just went off the cliff like in 1997 and 2010.
QuoteThey mentioned something about Moore a little later in the game saying it was all "precautionary" because of "neck pain." They implied that he was going to be okay.
Did they? Ok great news. Whew.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
Still nobody is saying anything about Brandon Moore. Fuck I hope he is ok.
They mentioned something about Moore a little later in the game saying it was all "precautionary" because of "neck pain." They implied that he was going to be okay.
Was he the one boarded and carted off the field? The coaches said he had feeling and movement in his extremities on the field, they just strapped him down in an abundance of caution.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Was he the one boarded and carted off the field? The coaches said he had feeling and movement in his extremities on the field, they just strapped him down in an abundance of caution.
Yeah that is the guy. Good to hear that he will suffer no permanent damage. Probably will be out for awhile though.
Wow Tech completely rolled. The Big 12 season just got weird.
Figures. I had WVU with 10 points in my confidence league.
And another week of magnificent pissing upon the Irish haters, in His glory.
Oregon State went into Provo with their back-up QB and slapped BYU around.
I was really hoping Stanford was going to beat Team Jesus but they just ame up short; got stuffed from the 1 twice in OT.
The national championship run for UTSA is over, at least for this year. 34-14 loss to Rice.
Tim's taint must not be crossing the pacific properly.
Quote from: sbr on October 13, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
I was really hoping Stanford was going to beat Team Jesus but they just ame up short; got stuffed from the 1 twice in OT.
I don't know why they didn't try rolling out on 4th.
But, He works in mysterious ways. Now let the campus fucking begin, in His glory.
Huskies are wearing god awful white alternate helmets and down 10-0 already to USC :bleeding:
Monochromatic Gamecocks?
Oh no wait they have little bit if black and red in unis :bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2012, 07:15:46 PM
Monochromatic Gamecocks?
Oh no wait they have little bit if black and red in unis :bleeding:
Yeah, I know. :bleedingeyesindigitalcamo:
Sigh when you have lost 4/5 of your offensive line through first 5 games, it is gonna be long 2nd half of season.
Stick a fork in these Huskies down 24-7 shortly before half.
Ohio state has no synergy right now.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 13, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Ohio state has no synergy right now.
That they just block a punt for a TD. hilarious.
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2012, 07:15:46 PM
Monochromatic Gamecocks?
Oh no wait they have little bit if black and red in unis :bleeding:
Quote from: CDMYeah, I know. :bleedingeyesindigitalcamo:
Man, I get home, turn on the TV, scroll through the guide "Oh hey South Carolina - LSU. Should be good to wa.....what the fuck?"
Quote from: Valmy on October 09, 2012, 03:42:49 PM
TCU is unlikely to win any more games. Total disaster of a season. Worse this may lead to Patterson leaving. Ugh.
Remind me never to put up any money based on your prognostications.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Man, I get home, turn on the TV, scroll through the guide "Oh hey South Carolina - LSU. Should be good to wa.....what the fuck?"
Luckily, the visor remained white despite being thrown to the ground numerous times.
Ohio state's defense looked like shit last night.
Holy fuck, shaggy bevo is hilarious this morning.
Quote from: dps on October 13, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Remind me never to put up any money based on your prognostications.
That is why they play the games my friend. And remind me when I announced I was some sort of expert.
But the actual experts said TCU would be fine so long as they did not struggle with depth. Well they lost 21 scholarship players, most of which were on their two-deep and they had struggled the past two weeks. But I guess that shows what I know eh? :lol:
That Stanford loss to ND really makes me mad, I thought they were gonna win that. It would have been a great feather in the cap for the Pac-12 and a lovely kick in the balls to the horrid B1G.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 14, 2012, 07:35:27 AM
Holy fuck, shaggy bevo is hilarious this morning.
Yeah at least I will be entertained by the fanbase turning on Mack this second half of the season.
Not that Mack doesn't deserve it a bit, but considering what he has done for this University it will be sorta sad. Still what would they do in Columbus if Ohio State got destroyed by mediocre Michigan teams in back to back years?
Quote from: sbr on October 14, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
That Stanford loss to ND really makes me mad, I thought they were gonna win that. It would have been a great feather in the cap for the Pac-12 and a lovely kick in the balls to the horrid B1G.
Like the B1G needs more.
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 14, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
That Stanford loss to ND really makes me mad, I thought they were gonna win that. It would have been a great feather in the cap for the Pac-12 and a lovely kick in the balls to the horrid B1G.
Like the B1G needs more.
The media will keep propping them up and making them out to be relevant until they finally get a stake in the heart, I was hoping the 4th best Pac-12 team could do that.
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 14, 2012, 07:35:27 AM
Holy fuck, shaggy bevo is hilarious this morning.
Yeah at least I will be entertained by the fanbase turning on Mack this second half of the season.
Not that Mack doesn't deserve it a bit, but considering what he has done for this University it will be sorta sad. Still what would they do in Columbus if Ohio State got destroyed by mediocre Michigan teams in back to back years?
Ask John Cooper. 2-10-1 against Michigan. Those mid 90's teams were great except for that game.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 14, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
Ask John Cooper. 2-10-1 against Michigan. Those mid 90's teams were great except for that game.
Yeah but Cooper never lost to Michigan 63-21 and 55-17 in back to back years. And the Texas fanbase lives for the OU game.
ND isn't in the B1G. What would it have to do with them?
Texas needs to calm the fuck down.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 14, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
ND isn't in the B1G. What would it have to do with them?
Most of their 'big" wins have been against B1G teams: Michigan, MSU, Purdue. If those losses were to a Top 5 team they are excusable. If they are to an overrated team that lost to the 4th best Pac-12 team they look pretty bad.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 14, 2012, 02:03:02 PM
Texas needs to calm the fuck down.
This is all part of the cathartic healing process :lol:
I'll console the ut hotties while the men folk despair of the future.
Whoa. Apparently Ash's wrist was
not broken.
QuoteChuckCarltonDMN: Texas also says QB David Ash did not sustain fracture to left wrist, based on initial X-rays. Will be evaluated and could play vs. Baylor.
I'm surprised with how quickly it swelled up and all that.
However:
QuoteChuckCarltonDMN: Huge hit for Texas. Junior DE Jackson Jeffcoat suffered right pectoral muscle rupture vs. OU, will undergo surgery and is out for the season
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
A "ruptured" pec sounds like it would really hurt, btw.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 14, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Whoa. Apparently Ash's wrist was not broken.
Well that is good. I still have a hard time really buying he is going to play vs. Baylor though.
QuoteFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
A "ruptured" pec sounds like it would really hurt, btw.
He had the same injury last year just with the other pec. Brutal because next weeks game was one Texas really needed him for.
This article hits right on the head where I am right now: http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2012/10/15/3504670/when-you-write-a-piece-like-this-Mack-Brown-resignation-fire-Texas-football
What do you think?
So he needs to go because he loses to OU too much?
I don't buy the arguments that Texas should naturally be an elite team even better than its been under Brown. Sure, Texas produces a lot of football talent. It also has a lot of schools. UT-Austin's claim on the rest of them is based on its better academics. That's not a huge selling point to most football stars. Nationally, Texas doesn't have the location advantage of a Miami or USC and it doesn't have the storied history of a Notre Dame or Alabama. Add it all up, and you have a school that should win most of its games and be in the hunt for the Big 12 title most years. Which it has.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 15, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
So he needs to go because he loses to OU too much?
Rivalries matter. Look what happened to Gene Stallings.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 15, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
So he needs to go because he loses to OU too much?
I don't buy the arguments that Texas should naturally be an elite team even better than its been under Brown. Sure, Texas produces a lot of football talent. It also has a lot of schools. UT-Austin's claim on the rest of them is based on its better academics. That's not a huge selling point to most football stars. Nationally, Texas doesn't have the location advantage of a Miami or USC and it doesn't have the storied history of a Notre Dame or Alabama. Add it all up, and you have a school that should win most of its games and be in the hunt for the Big 12 title most years. Which it has.
Hey I am not demanding they do anything more than what you are saying. Win most of your games, be in the hunt, and every once in a while maybe they get lucky and everything comes together like in 2005.
Texas is 6-13 in its last 19 conference games. Texas has lots 9 straight against ranked opponents. Texas continously gets destroyed by Oklahoma. Now you can say Texas is not as sexy as Alabama or USC or Notre Dame but damn they shouldn't be scrimmage fodder for Oklahoma. This was a game even JOhn Mackovic's teams showed up and played hard in. Losing to OU is a big freaking deal here btw this is Texas' #1 rival we HATE OU, make no mistake and they are not just losing they are making history with the worst beat downs in the history of the rivalry. But that is hardly the only problem.
:(
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2012, 11:13:12 AM
Texas is 6-13 in its last 19 conference games. Texas has lots 9 straight against ranked opponents.
Ok, now you're making a better case than the writer of the article, who seemed to be saying his entire career was not quite good enough for Texas.
Biggest test of the year for the Ducks tonight.
It is there first game this year in an opponent's stadium; their only other road game was a "neutral field" game against WSU in Seattle, there may have been more Oregon fans than Wazzu fans at that one. This is also, imo, the first game where the other team has comparable* athletes on both sides of the ball.
The Ducks should still win by 2 scores, but weird things happen on the road, especially with a redshirt freshman QB, and weird things happen on Thursdays.
*Not comparable as in as good as, but comparable as belong on the same field. All due respect to the other PAc-12 teams the Ducks have played. :)
Well that didn't take long.
Ugh. Jesse Palmer.
Also, the LB situation is so bad at ohio state, the starting FB is playing linebacker.
Zach Boren, everyguy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2012, 08:16:41 PM
Ugh. Jesse Palmer.
Jessi Palmer. :perv:
http://fantasti.cc/videos/permalink/xhamster/Twist-of-fate-!!/3040918/ (http://fantasti.cc/videos/permalink/xhamster/Twist-of-fate-!!/3040918/) Very NSFW
Xhamster flakes out on the iPad. :(
The thought is appreciated however.
Whelp, time for baseball I guess.
Those burgers from The Chuckbox look damn good, though. I think I can still taste mine from 1999.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Those burgers from The Chuckbox look damn good, though. I think I can still taste mine from 1999.
I had forgot about that place until I saw that spot then I had flashbacks.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Those burgers from The Chuckbox look damn good, though. I think I can still taste mine from 1999.
That is the bit in your Aorta.
I didn't notice this before but kenyon barber picked the force push skill.
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Major. major action today across the country.
K State and WVU. It's a pinball machine of Heisman instability!
The Ol' Ball Coach's Visor of Angst returns to the Swamp to wrap up the Gamecocks murderous 3 week schedule. I don't even want to watch. :cry:
Irish have a possible gotcha game against the Polygamist Cultist Fucktards. HIS WILL BE DONE
Wolverines play the Spartoons in the yearly battle between Michigan and the It's My Safety School rejects.
Only thing missing from the inevitable Alabama bashing of Rocky Tards is Phil Fulmer's fat rat ass.
LSU goes to Texas A&M and collapses a shitload of logs on the Aggies.
Can the Northwestern Nerds handle the underwhelming Cornhuskers? I believe so.
Can Baylor win 3 in a row for the first time ever against a Texas team that's mailed in the season? I say yes.
Can TCU surprise the Red Raiders with a DWI driving onto the field in the 3rd quarter? Perhaps.
It's Saturdays like this I'm glad I have no wife, no kids, no compelling need in life to get off the couch. Shame it's not a rainy day so I could feel completely guilt-free.
Urban is gonna end up strangling someone.
Heh. VT got hosed there.
A female play-by-play announcer for the Purdue-OSU game? :yeahright:
Quote from: Kleves on October 20, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
A female play-by-play announcer for the Purdue-OSU game? :yeahright:
Pam Ward, I assume. I'm not sure that one gets put 100% into the "female" category.
The ohio state game is turning into a disaster.
Jesus Christ.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2012, 01:56:34 PM
The ohio state game is turning into a disaster.
What happened to miller?
They are taking him to the hospital.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
They are taking him to the hospital.
I just saw the highlight, didn't seem bad enough to hurt him that badly. He must have landed funny.
Auburn is playing so good I went out and trimmed some bushes, pulled some weeds, and going to clean the grill now to cook up some burgers this evening.
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 20, 2012, 02:18:07 PM
Auburn is playing so good I went out and trimmed some bushes, pulled some weeds, and going to clean the grill now to cook up some burgers this evening.
They need to scrape up 200 large and buy another Heisman and national championship.
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 20, 2012, 02:18:07 PM
Auburn is playing so good I went out and trimmed some bushes, pulled some weeds, and going to clean the grill now to cook up some burgers this evening.
Same as every other week this season then.
Well that was exciting.
Oh, man. Gainesville. :bleeding:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 20, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 20, 2012, 02:18:07 PM
Auburn is playing so good I went out and trimmed some bushes, pulled some weeds, and going to clean the grill now to cook up some burgers this evening.
Same as every other week this season then.
They have only played football once this season, against LSU. And they lost that one too.
I have gotten more yard work done this season. :D
I just came. Again.
Spurrier: "Hopefully we can keep playin'."
Sports interviews are so vapid. :P
Yes, Steve. Please tell your team to come back on the field after halftime.
If TTech wins, I'm gonna come again.
The Toads are hanging in there so far. Wonder if they can keep it up. I like that "new" stadium of theirs. First time I've seen it with fans in there during a game, etc.
E: Damn that was a helluva sack by that guy. Doege didn't stand a chance.
Braxton Miller is reported to be okay.
UTSA got toasted 52-24 by San Jose State. :yucky:
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 20, 2012, 05:24:27 PM
UTSA got toasted 52-24 by San Jose State. :yucky:
Yikes. They have to play Utah State then LaTech in the next two weeks. Probably going to be similar results.
Aw the Frogs finally fell apart.
Grumbles just came.
I wonder if they can get the onside kick.
They didn't, but they stuffed Tech anyway and got the ball back and just kicked the game tying FG. The TCU kicker is nails.
wee...go mediocre victory. :shutup: First in years should have been better than 12-10. :yuk:
Haha! Fuck TCU.
C'mon Rocky Top!
WVU's nightmare last week is continuing on through this week. Lovely.
Quote from: derspiess on October 20, 2012, 07:13:38 PM
WVU's nightmare last week is continuing on through this week. Lovely.
K-State is scary when they have a decent offense. They already beat OU so I am not sure who is going to stop them now.
It sure the hell isn't going to be Texas. I got to hand it to Baylor it takes a special team to put up half time scores of 35 and 31 and not be leading in either game.
Has Jimmy Fallon ever been funny? Did I miss that at some point? That damn Capital One commercial with him in it keeps popping up on ABC.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 20, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
Has Jimmy Fallon ever been funny? Did I miss that at some point? That damn Capital One commercial with him in it keeps popping up on ABC.
His Tebowie bit was hilarious. Don't watch his show and barely watched SNL in his time so haven't really seen any other instances.
Actually the Capital One commercials aren't that bad. "But that's more
money" " :blurgh:"
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 20, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
His Tebowie bit was hilarious. Don't watch his show and barely watched SNL in his time so haven't really seen any other instances.
I'll have to look that one up.
QuoteActually the Capital One commercials aren't that bad. "But that's more money" " :blurgh:"
Alec Baldwin is the best. That tux line from 30 Rock was just perfect, and he's kinda sorta the same type dude in the Capital One commercials.
"Why are you wearing a tux?!?"
"It's after six. What am I, a farmer?"
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 20, 2012, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 20, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
His Tebowie bit was hilarious. Don't watch his show and barely watched SNL in his time so haven't really seen any other instances.
I'll have to look that one up.
QuoteActually the Capital One commercials aren't that bad. "But that's more money" " :blurgh:"
Alec Baldwin is the best. That tux line from 30 Rock was just perfect, and he's kinda sorta the same type dude in the Capital One commercials.
"Why are you wearing a tux?!?"
"It's after six. What am I, a farmer?"
Alec Baldwin in 30 Rock almost makes me want to be a Republican. Almost.
I just saw a movie called Hick that had a Baldwin cameo at the end, which was mostly wasted.
Welp, local news reporting that UTSA QB Eric Soza may be lost for the season with the hip injury he sustained vs. Rice.
Quote from: Valmy on October 20, 2012, 08:56:28 PM
K-State is scary when they have a decent offense.
You mean when their opponent has no defense to speak of.
:P
The house of cards that is WVU has officially collapsed.
Don't know if the Horns fans here caught it, but Natalie Portman was on the sidelines on Saturday, and was looking good, although somewhat confused:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fnatalie-portman-10-20-12.gif&hash=98421112c490a67341182b4a07d596e60290a78f)
Sometimes Hollywood types find it tough trying to be normal.
I'd hook her in the vagina.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 20, 2012, 03:57:35 PM
Oh, man. Gainesville. :bleeding:
:glare:
Was at the game. I think most Gator fans are still waiting for the other shoe to drop. Most people had us pegged for a rebuilding season. If we win next week, we will clinch the East.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 21, 2012, 05:18:05 PM
Don't know if the Horns fans here caught it, but Natalie Portman was on the sidelines on Saturday, and was looking good, although somewhat confused:
Yeah I saw that. Did she date someone who went to UT or what?
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 21, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 21, 2012, 05:18:05 PM
Don't know if the Horns fans here caught it, but Natalie Portman was on the sidelines on Saturday, and was looking good, although somewhat confused:
Yeah I saw that. Did she date someone who went to UT or what?
LOL, she does work for a living, you know.
QuoteChristian Bale, Natalie Portman, Mara Rooney, Michael Fassbender & Ryan Gosling were all spotted on the University of Texas campus this week, attached to the Terrance Malick film that has been shooting for the past year.
:(
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 21, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
:(
Yeah, I know; thought the same thing, too: no katmai sighting.
Actually it was for the realization that she would never date anyone who went to a state school. :D
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 21, 2012, 08:15:58 PM
Actually it was for the realization that she would never date anyone who went to a state school. :D
Well, duh. Harvard. Hello? :lol:
Although I do find it interesting that your first line of thinking for a megamillion, professionally accomplished actress' reason for being there goes to who whether she's banging somebody.
You, sir, are a chauvinist piggie poo. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
Although I do find it interesting that your first line of thinking for a megamillion, professionally accomplished actress' reason for being there goes to who whether she's banging somebody.
Me. :(
:lol:
:lol:
Meri is gonna be sooooo mad.
No shit. Like Meri would want to bang a Longhorn, either.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
No shit. Like Meri would want to bang a Longhorn, either.
I've been told only steers and queers come from Texas. Most of the latter go to A&M.
A guy named Matt Hayes on twitter in regards to the ducks falling to 4 in bcs.
"No team is really jobbed now. Opinions change weekly: its a beauty pageant *and* demolition derby"
lol, Oregon keeps going the wrong way. But their number will look better when they start hitting the real meat next month.
Stupid Florida State have only themselves to blame.
And all you Texas fans that bitch about Notre Dame getting votes whenever they're 2-6 have no credibility anymore. #23? After back-to-back ranked losses? Seriously?
Computers have the Beavers ahead of the Ducks. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
And all you Texas fans that bitch about Notre Dame getting votes whenever they're 2-6 have no credibility anymore. #23? After back-to-back ranked losses? Seriously?
:lol: So when you say "Texas fans," you really mean "everyone who isn't a dumbass Domer," right?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 21, 2012, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
And all you Texas fans that bitch about Notre Dame getting votes whenever they're 2-6 have no credibility anymore. #23? After back-to-back ranked losses? Seriously?
:lol: So when you say "Texas fans," you really mean "everyone who isn't a dumbass Domer," right?
I don't see those definitions as mutually exclusive.
Boy that Oregon k-state would have been fun if Snyder hadn't turned into a giant bleeding pussy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
I don't see those definitions as mutually exclusive.
It's good to know the Texas fanbase isn't a bunch of dumbasses, but I think you're overestimating the number of people who make it up. :moon:
Speaking of dumbasses, some stupid shit just went down in the Steelers - Bengals game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 21, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
It's good to know the Texas fanbase isn't a bunch of dumbasses, but I think you're overestimating the number of people who make it up. :moon:
For some reason, I want to bang the new redhead in the Wendy's commercials. With my dick wrapped in a portabella mushroom melt.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 21, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
It's good to know the Texas fanbase isn't a bunch of dumbasses, but I think you're overestimating the number of people who make it up. :moon:
For some reason, I want to bang the new redhead in the Wendy's commercials. With my dick wrapped in a portabella mushroom melt.
:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
For some reason, I want to bang the new redhead in the Wendy's commercials. With my dick wrapped in a portabella mushroom melt.
She looks way better than Wendy. Use a Baconator instead though.
I dunno, Wendy's always seems to fuck up their bacon; it's never crunchy enough. BK does bacon better.
Idaho fired their coach today.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20634691/idaho-fires-robb-akey-jason-gesser-named-interim-coach
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:34:13 PM
I dunno, Wendy's always seems to fuck up their bacon; it's never crunchy enough. BK does bacon better.
TBH, I can't remember the last time I had anything except a Frosty from Wendy's, and anything at all from BK. There just aren't that many of them around, and the ones that are are a pita to get to/from.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
And all you Texas fans that bitch about Notre Dame getting votes whenever they're 2-6 have no credibility anymore. #23? After back-to-back ranked losses? Seriously?
The computers love Texas. They have no eyes so couldn't see Texas quit against OU.
Well, the season has sucked. The All-American QB went down with that illegal hit in game 2, and so far he has missed all or some of 4 games...The Cowboys are 1-4 (oddly enough, the 1 win is the game he played all of).
Now, the team is imploding, the backup true freshman QB still is trying to learn the offense, and the Head Coach is going through a meltdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zaJDqBNo4cI
The AD fined him and the coach won't be on the sidelines this weekend - fucking Howdy Doody.
(btw, the incident after this game came from the coach accusing the Air Force head coach of telling his players to fake injuries to earn extra time outs)
It is hard being a loyal fan of a crap team.
Yikes, Peedy. WTF is going on out there?
The biggest meltdown of a season ever. Plus, that rant came on "Military Appreciation Day."
This year, Wyoming sucks huge balls.
Some of it looked like bad decision-making and bad coaching. I mean if you have a minute and a half on the clock at the end of the 4th and the game is tied, don't you at least try to put up something? Why take a knee?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 23, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
Some of it looked like bad decision-making and bad coaching. I mean if you have a minute and a half on the clock at the end of the 4th and the game is tied, don't you at least try to put up something? Why take a knee?
Yeah that is part. Part, too was the true freshman not getting the offense (the junior 3rd string QB is a Timmy), and the coaches not trusting him to even throw. That was a bad situation - Smith got ejected but he had been concussed (2nd time in 3 weeks) a few plays before that, so who knows even if he would have played at the end.
The team is imploding, the QB really should sit and heal, the coach is out of control, and the defense can't even stop an Idaho...
Quote from: PDH on October 23, 2012, 09:15:55 AM
The biggest meltdown of a season ever. Plus, that rant came on "Military Appreciation Day."
This year, Wyoming sucks huge balls.
a couple of a a-10's might pay a visit to you campus.
Quote from: PDH on October 23, 2012, 09:15:55 AM
The biggest meltdown of a season ever. Plus, that rant came on "Military Appreciation Day."
This year, Wyoming sucks huge balls.
like it is confined to just this year.
Quote from: katmai on October 23, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
like it is confined to just this year.
Can't hurt me with that - Wyoming won 8 last year. That was like 4 years worth of wins normally.
So clearly last year was the anomaly and now back to normal standards. :P
Damn. Katmai kicking around the little schools. What a bully.
Hey my school is just few short years from the ofer the season.
Quote from: katmai on October 23, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
Hey my school is just few short years from the ofer the season.
We all can't be Towson Tigers. :console:
Why-O-Ming has moved from the ranks of the 1 or 2 wins a year all the way up to the "every other year" level. That means in the past 3 years there have been TWO appearaces at the prestigious New Mexico Bowl
I think that is where the UW is projected to go this year. :lol:
Links to the rant are now on the front page of Yahoo.
A friend of mine who works for the Athletic Department said that what kicked it all off was the Air Force QB lost his helmet and began to run off, the AF coach yelled at him to lie down on the field. Then the trainers came on and the QB left after giving time for the backup QB to warm up a few snaps. A douchebag move, to be sure, but the Wyoming coach blew a gasket over that...
Oregon and The Ohio State have agreed to a home-and-home series in ... 2020 and 2021.
No way Chip is still at Oregon then, doubtful that Urban is still in Columbus. The freshmen on those teams are 9 years old right now.
Egads. TEAM SPEED VS TATTOOS
They weren't joking about ending the usually soft ooc schedule at ohio state.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 23, 2012, 06:44:34 PM
Egads. TEAM SPEED VS TATTOOS
They weren't joking about ending the usually soft ooc schedule at ohio state.
I hope the new 4 team playoff with a selection committee will make OOC games like this mandatory for title contenders.
With some taking the lead like this it will force the others in too, playoff or no.
RichRodd>>>Sarkasian
This thread just dies whenever I post.
Does Arizona have any chance against USC Saturday?
They have 16 4 and 5 star athletes on their starting 22. Arizona has 1.
However, Arizona has Richard Rodriguez, and USC has Lane Kiffin.
I like the Cats chances.
Wyoming coach's rant redone as a blues song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UFi3mEXcUs8#!
More Marcus Lattimore. Poor kid can't get a break. Except for the one he had today.
You'll wince and not want to see it ever again. The contact was a bit obstructed, but the aftermath of it wasn't.
I'm glad I missed it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 27, 2012, 01:44:15 PM
More Marcus Lattimore. Poor kid can't get a break. Except for the one he had today.
You'll wince and not want to see it ever again. The contact was a bit obstructed, but the aftermath of it wasn't.
CBS has a big shot of him sitting on the ground looking at his fucked up leg at the top of their article about it, along with a video further down. :yuk:
Lots of flags in the Arizona - USC game.
Holy shit just saw that Lattimore injury. :o
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 27, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
CBS has a big shot of him sitting on the ground looking at his fucked up leg at the top of their article about it, along with a video further down. :yuk:
Oh yeah, he was freaking the fuck out on that one.
I really feel bad for him; bad enough he had to go through all the bullshit from that knee injury last year, just to have this happen to him.
I hope this is something he can bounce back from, because he'd be such an elite stud in the NFL...but I dunno. I just kept thinking "Bobby Edwards" all day.
UGA's back on track to get whooped by 'Bama in December. :cool:
Ohio state wins. I came.
And that is inappropriate with my avatar. :blush:
Quote from: Berkut on October 25, 2012, 12:40:32 PM
This thread just dies whenever I post.
Does Arizona have any chance against USC Saturday?
They have 16 4 and 5 star athletes on their starting 22. Arizona has 1.
However, Arizona has Richard Rodriguez, and USC has Lane Kiffin.
I like the Cats chances.
I love it when I look brilliant.
Arizona 39
USC 36
A reverse on 4th and 2 up by two TDs Lane? Really?
Rarely happens. of course it was only cause the Trojans couldn't stop gifting the ball.
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Rarely happens. of course it was only cause the Trojans couldn't stop gifting the ball.
Bitterness is not attractive.
I enjoyed the Arizona W quite a bit. Unfortunately, I couldn't stay to watch the very end, but as I was walking out the door, they were burning the clock with nice runs after the USC 2pt conversion.
THATS A SETUP QUESTION
Hehehe.
edit: Congrats to the 'Cats. About time they won one of these.
Stoops is hilarious when Holy Mother Church throws the little yellow flag, in thy mercy.
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 27, 2012, 04:33:06 PM
Holy shit just saw that Lattimore injury. :o
One of the most gruesome I've ever seen. When I first saw it in real-time, I thought his lower leg came completely off.
Quote from: Berkut on October 27, 2012, 08:11:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Rarely happens. of course it was only cause the Trojans couldn't stop gifting the ball.
Bitterness is not attractive.
I'm not bitter, Cats put a whupping on Dawgs rightfully so.
Just also know that if USC didn't have 5 turnovers Arizona wouldn't have held on for win. :P
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 27, 2012, 08:11:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Rarely happens. of course it was only cause the Trojans couldn't stop gifting the ball.
Bitterness is not attractive.
I'm not bitter, Cats put a whupping on Dawgs rightfully so.
Just also know that if USC didn't have 5 turnovers Arizona wouldn't have held on for win. :P
If Arizona hadn't had two turnovers, it never would have been close?
I never understand comments like this - it's not like turnovers happen as an act of god or something.
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 27, 2012, 08:11:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 27, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Rarely happens. of course it was only cause the Trojans couldn't stop gifting the ball.
Bitterness is not attractive.
I'm not bitter, Cats put a whupping on Dawgs rightfully so.
Just also know that if USC didn't have 5 turnovers Arizona wouldn't have held on for win. :P
If Arizona hadn't had two turnovers, it never would have been close?
I never understand comments like this - it's not like turnovers happen as an act of god or something.
Nice win by the 'Cats. I don't like it because it hurts Oregon's strength of schedule, but I always like to see USC lose.
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
I never understand comments like this - it's not like turnovers happen as an act of god or something.
I guess that is why you are just a ref. :console:
In all seriousness, Huskies need to find a way to schedule all their games at home, beat two top ten teams now in comfy confines and having home cooking. Haven't been looking anything like the team that has looked horrible on road.
Quote from: katmai on October 28, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
In all seriousness, Huskies need to find a way to schedule all their games at home,
That doesn't sound like a very serious suggestion. :hmm:
Quote from: katmai on October 28, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
In all seriousness, Huskies need to find a way to schedule all their games at home, beat two top ten teams now in comfy confines and having home cooking. Haven't been looking anything like the team that has looked horrible on road.
Two teams that were vastly over-rated, but well done nonetheless.
I love how Summer's Eve is now using the slogan, "Hail to the V". :P
Whew. Bad, but not Bobby Edwards bad. It will still time to evaluate.
QuoteLattimore hyperextended right knee
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina running back Marcus Lattimore hyperextended his right knee against Tennessee, causing injury to several ligaments, the school said in a release Sunday.
Coach Steve Spurrier said the injury is something Lattimore can come back from to play football again.
There were no fractures or additional injuries, according to team physician Jeffrey Guy.
Spurrier visited Lattimore on Sunday and said the junior had a good attitude about his condition. Spurrier said Guy was able to put Lattimore's knee back in place soon after he was taken from the field to the hospital.
Spurrier said the injury was significant, but discounted speculation Lattimore never would play football again. Lattimore has not used a redshirt season so he could take as long as necessary to recover and still return to the Gamecocks for the 2014 season.
"We're optimistic his football days are ahead of him," Spurrier said.
Lattimore is resting comfortably and will be evaluated over the week, according to the school.
Spurrier hasn't yet talked with Lattimore, who turns 21 on Monday, about his future. Spurrier said recovery will take some time, perhaps more than one offseason.
"He knows what the road ahead is," said Spurrier, who visited Lattimore Sunday. "We're all hoping and praying he'll be back."
That didn't seem possible to anyone who watched Lattimore fall or saw the slow-motion replays of the second-quarter hit. Lattimore was wrapped up from behind on a 2-yard run when Vols defensive back Eric Gordon came in low. Lattimore's right leg sickeningly flopped over and slammed against the turf.
Trainers immediately surrounded Lattimore. Eventually, players from both sides came out to comfort Lattimore and surrounded him as he was lifted into a cart and taken away by ambulance.
"I saw the look in his eyes when he was on the ground," South Carolina receiver Ace Sanders said. "He was really heartbroken about the injury. We were just trying to keep him strong."
A host of sports figures and other celebrities sent Lattimore support via Twitter, including New York Jets quarterback Tim Tebow, Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o, and Hootie and the Blowfish singer and South Carolina alum Darius Rucker.
"Praying for Marcus Lattimore. Hate to see the best RB in college go down. Keep ya head up my man!" Dallas Cowboys running back DeMarco Murray said on Twitter.
Spurrier said he's gotten so many messages of support, he believes Lattimore may be the most popular player in South Carolina history.
Gamecocks quarterback Connor Shaw said the team played for Lattimore in the second half. South Carolina (7-2, 5-2 Southeastern Conference) held on for a 38-35 win over Tennessee (3-5, 0-5). The Gamecocks moved up six spots to No. 11 in the latest AP rankings. They don't play again until Nov. 10 against Arkansas.
The Gamecocks had to play without Lattimore the second half of last season, too, after he tore ligaments in his left knee against Mississippi State. South Carolina went 5-1 with its star rusher on the sidelines, an experience Spurrier hopes the team can draw on down the stretch this year.
"We'd rather have Marcus on our team, that's for dang sure," Spurrier said. "In life, sometimes you've got to move on with whatever hand you're dealt."
Senior Kenny Miles now will be South Carolina's starter with freshman Mike Davis serving as backup.
Lattimore is expected to be re-evaluated this week. He's already made it back once through the gut-wrenching rehab process, returning as one of the SEC's top backs this season. He finishes this year with 662 yards and 10 touchdowns. Lattimore scored on a 28-yard run against Tennessee, adding to his school record of 41 career TDs.
Vols receiver Justin Hunter said Tennessee players wanted to show their respect for Lattimore.
"We felt for him. We knew he came off a knee injury and for this to happen to him is bad," Hunter said. "The whole team just wanted to go out and show support."
Whatever decisions Lattimore makes about his future, he's got Spurrier's blessing.
"We'll just go a day at a time and allow the doctors and Marcus and a lot of prayers do their work," Spurrier said.
BCS
1 Alabama
2 Kansas State
3 Notre Dame
4 Oregon
5 LSU
6 Georgia
7 Florida
8 South Carolina
9 Florida State
10 Louisville
11 Oregon State
12 Oklahoma
13 Clemson
14 Stanford
15 Mississippi State
16 Texas A&M
17 Southern California
18 Texas Tech
19 Boise State
20 Nebraska
21 West Virginia
22 Arizona
23 Texas
24 Oklahoma State
25 Louisiana Tech
Oh and Rich Rod turned out to be an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
He's lucky his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2012/10/27/arizona-just-broke-the-ncaas-concussion-policy-will-it-matter/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Jesus H. Testudo.
QuoteMaryland has lost its fourth quarterback of the season to injury, leaving the Terps with linebacker Shawn Petty to start at quarterback against Georgia Tech next week.
C.J. Brown was injured in the preseason. Freshman Perry Hills was lost for the season to a torn anterior cruciate ligament and Devin Burns, a redshirt sophomore, endured a serious left foot injury in the 20-18 loss to North Carolina State a week earlier. Rowe, a freshman, suffered the injury during the Boston College game.
Next up is Petty, who ran a Navy-style option offense in high school, his coach, Tom Green, said. Petty, who warmed up before Saturday's game, is listed at 230 and looks bigger.
Petty will be backed up by tight end Brian McMahon.
lol, a 230+ pound linebacker running the your suddenly-back-to-the-future option offense. Read option this, fuckers.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 28, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
He's likely his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
How likely?
Already fixed that.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 28, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Oh and Rich Rod turned out to be an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
He's lucky his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2012/10/27/arizona-just-broke-the-ncaas-concussion-policy-will-it-matter/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
:o How many other people have died on field from a concussion?
I don't think team that won a game 70-14 has had a worse day than Oregon had yesterday.
The won which was nice, and Florida lost which helped but Florida or Alabama was going to lose a game any way so I wasn't worried about them.
Notre Dame and Kansas State both won again; Stanford barely beat Wazzu and USC and Oregon State lost making it more unlikely that Oregon's strength of schedule will improve enough to pass KSU or ND if multiple teams go undefeated. Until yesterday I was confident that the Ducks would play for the NC if they went without a loss, now I think ND for sure (and possibly KSU, but much more unlikely) would stay ahead of the Ducks if they all win out.
Never discount the ability of God to abandon His team when they're playing Pitt and Boston College. I honestly don't see them going undefeated.
Plus, never discount timmay taint on the Irish.
Yes, South Korea is never far enough away from South Bend.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 28, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Oh and Rich Rod turned out to be an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
He's lucky his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2012/10/27/arizona-just-broke-the-ncaas-concussion-policy-will-it-matter/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
The author of that piece actually posted on the Arizona boards.
Seems like a decent guy, but like all journalists, cares more about getting his story out in as sensational a manner as possible rather than actually finding out what really happened.
Quote from: sbr on October 28, 2012, 09:33:59 PM
I don't think team that won a game 70-14 has had a worse day than Oregon had yesterday.
The won which was nice, and Florida lost which helped but Florida or Alabama was going to lose a game any way so I wasn't worried about them.
Notre Dame and Kansas State both won again; Stanford barely beat Wazzu and USC and Oregon State lost making it more unlikely that Oregon's strength of schedule will improve enough to pass KSU or ND if multiple teams go undefeated. Until yesterday I was confident that the Ducks would play for the NC if they went without a loss, now I think ND for sure (and possibly KSU, but much more unlikely) would stay ahead of the Ducks if they all win out.
The Ducks have to start hoping that Arizona wins out, which would help their SOS a little bit anyway.
It seems odd that two teams in the same conference can have such wildly divergent SOS. According to Sagarin, Arizona has the #2 SOS in the country, while Oregon is somewhere in the 100s.
Quote from: Berkut on October 29, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 28, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Oh and Rich Rod turned out to be an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
He's lucky his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2012/10/27/arizona-just-broke-the-ncaas-concussion-policy-will-it-matter/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
The author of that piece actually posted on the Arizona boards.
Seems like a decent guy, but like all journalists, cares more about getting his story out in as sensational a manner as possible rather than actually finding out what really happened.
Ok then, enlighten us with what really happened then.
Quote from: Berkut on October 29, 2012, 02:30:52 AM
It seems odd that two teams in the same conference can have such wildly divergent SOS. According to Sagarin, Arizona has the #2 SOS in the country, while Oregon is somewhere in the 100s.
Arizona gets to play Oregon, while Oregon has to play Arizona. :contract:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 29, 2012, 02:37:15 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 29, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 28, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Oh and Rich Rod turned out to be an even bigger scumbag than I thought.
He's lucky his QB wasn't literally killed on the field.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2012/10/27/arizona-just-broke-the-ncaas-concussion-policy-will-it-matter/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
The author of that piece actually posted on the Arizona boards.
Seems like a decent guy, but like all journalists, cares more about getting his story out in as sensational a manner as possible rather than actually finding out what really happened.
Ok then, enlighten us with what really happened then.
If I told you what happened, knowing no more than the author of that hatchet job, I would be making the same mistake he is - I don't know what happened.
All I know is that Scott got hit, threw up, Arizona called time out, they went to commercial, and Scott was still playing when they came back.
He finished the series, then they pulled him for the last series.
That is the sum of the information the author knew when he wrote his bullshit article.
Since then, we've learned that Scott said he threw up because he was exhausted. Rodriguez said the was evaluated during the timeout (said timeout being taken for the purposes of making sure he was ok or not) and then pulled in favor of his backup when they decided the last series was going to be 100% Kadeem Carey running the clock out anyway, since Scott was apparently wiped out.
Scott practiced yesterday night as normal.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 29, 2012, 02:39:29 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 29, 2012, 02:30:52 AM
It seems odd that two teams in the same conference can have such wildly divergent SOS. According to Sagarin, Arizona has the #2 SOS in the country, while Oregon is somewhere in the 100s.
Arizona gets to play Oregon, while Oregon has to play Arizona. :contract:
Are you really this stupid?
He brings up a valid point. It's like Oregon has only 8 conference games.
Oregon's OOC schedule was atrocious. At one point early on the year their SOS was about 150. There are 119 division 1 schools.
Alright Seedy, I've had this circled on my calendar: today is the day we start trash-talking.
Your 4-4 Towson Tigers vs. my beloved 5-3 Blue Hens. Saturday. Noon. Delaware Stadium. Televised live & in color on NBC Sports.
A lot at stake in this one-- a potential tie for 5th place in the CAA. My team will dominate in total Blue Hen fashion :menace:
The home field edge goes to the Hens, and Towson's imitation of Masada at LSU notwithstanding, their road record is atrocious, but they're riding high on a 1 game win streak against the Augustinians at Villanove.
But, as Towson has the superior coed ass population, the womenfolk will encourage the Tigers to victory with promises of Absolut Citron-fueled blowjobs, and win by 10 points on the road.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 29, 2012, 01:13:41 PM
But, as Towson has the superior coed ass population, the womenfolk will encourage the Tigers to victory with promises of Absolut Citron-fueled blowjobs, and win by 10 points on the road.
I gotta disagree. UD had a very favorable female to male ratio, and quality to boot. But the sheer proportion was key: where else would an ugly mofo like myself be able to date a cheerleader.
Anyway, we'll hopefully see a full crowd at the stadium for TV. Not with students, mind you but middle-aged yokels with nothing better to do. Unless something's changed in the past 10 years the student section consists of three rows of freshman girls with nothing else on their schedule for Saturday afternoon.
Texas Tech's attempt to blind Texas with their ugly ass new Uniforms is probably unnecessary.
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Looks like they're morphing into the Texans.
The general consensus around here is now that the Ducks will blow USC out and there isn't much reason for the Trojans to even show up on their home field. I've watched Pac-XX football, and been irritated by both the Ducks and Trojans, long enough that I don't feel comfortable predicting that. However ... I haven't really seen anything from either team that would lead me to believe this will be a close game at the end.
USC is too mistake prone, commits too many penalties (almost on record pace for the season) and is just generally too undisciplined to stay with the Ducks. Outside of a flurry of turnovers I don't see Oregon being held under 35 points and the Ducks defence really is better this season. I will say again, like I did before the ASU game, that weird things happen when 18-20 year old kids go on road trips, especially with redshirt freshman QBs but if both teams play well I think Oregon wins comfortably.
Towson-Delaware got interesting. Plus, they took out an official. That's always fun.
Edit: OT
I wish mark may would choke on a bag of dicks.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 03, 2012, 02:08:52 PM
Towson-Delaware got interesting. Plus, they took out an official. That's always fun.
Edit: OT
The SeedySpiess Bowl :contract:
Good game.
WOMAN ANNOUNCER FOR THE OHIO STATE GAME.
:( :( :( :mad: :(
Why do they all have to sound like Pam Ward...
WVU figured out how to play some defense. It's against TCU but I'll take it.
Thank God for Tavon Austin.
Texas is pretty darn good at blocking FGs :hmm:
Hey Horns win. The Tech uniforms looked as dumb on TV as they did in the promo shots prior to the game.
E: UTSA was hangin tough with LaTech, but they're now down by 16 with 14:11 left. Their uniforms, on the other hand, look really good on TV.
Looks like God is interceding on behalf of His favorite Midwestern university
:bleeding: They got the TD they needed after LaTech committed PI on 4th and 10 giving the Roadrunners a 1st down inside the 15. Good so far, but then they went for 2 and tried to run it in with their backup QB, who promptly fumbled and an LTU player picked it up and ran for 2.
Whoa they just overturned the 2pt conversion. LTU got hosed there, but I'll take it. 37-27 LaTech with 11:57 left.
Down by 12 in the 4th quarter to a ranked team ain't half bad. Go Roadrunners. :)
I don't know if we have any Illinois fans but damn, that is one bad team.
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
Down by 12 in the 4th quarter to a ranked team ain't half bad. Go Roadrunners. :)
Well they're down by 17 now with 5:00 left, but LaTech needed a UTSA penalty on a missed FG (running into the kicker doh), then a fake FG three plays later to get that TD. UTSA really came to play, Coker had them ready and all that, but they don't have the talent or depth just yet to beat teams like this, I don't think. That was really a home run hire by them though. Only paying the guy $250k a year too.
LTU running the hurry up with less than a minute to go, up by 17. Just got another TD with :16 left. I assume they're trying to make the score look better.
HIS WILL BE DONE
***cue 'Christ The Lord Is Risen Today', put on constant loop for anti-Papists***
Quote from: derspiess on November 03, 2012, 02:27:26 PM
The SeedySpiess Bowl :contract:
Good game.
It was certainly entertaining, in its way. NOTHING SAYS COMPETITIVE LIKE THE COLONIAL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION! CATCH THE FEVER!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 03, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
HIS WILL BE DONE
***cue 'Christ The Lord Is Risen Today', put on constant loop for anti-Papists***
I figured you were praying extra hard in the 4th quarter. It paid off. :D
I thought the taint was going to bite touchdown Jesus.
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 03, 2012, 06:57:26 PM
I figured you were praying extra hard in the 4th quarter. It paid off. :D
That was one hell of a roller coaster ride in the 4th. I had totally written this game off this week, because Pitt is a Holy Mother Killer, always has been, and ND was proving it playing flat for 3 quarters.
Now, gotta worry about it happening all over again next week with those whacky, independent thinking Jesuits in Boston.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 03, 2012, 07:00:27 PM
I thought the taint was going to bite touchdown Jesus.
That fucker is on the other side of the planet, just where he needs to be. The taint is only horizon-to-horizon.
Track meet in So. Cal.
How did LSU go ahead? I was in the shower.
Wow, if LSU pulls this out I wonder how the BCS will play out?
Will LSU skip ahead of any of the three undefeated? I could see Oregon passing ND after that close game.
Damn, Arizona is just imploding.
Dunno, Oregon gave up 50 themselves.
Lol, LSU chokes.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 03, 2012, 10:36:34 PM
Wow, if LSU pulls this out I wonder how the BCS will play out?
Will LSU skip ahead of any of the three undefeated? I could see Oregon passing ND after that close game.
I don't give two shits about the BCS in early November, nor should anyone with 4 brain cells, but I think the human polls should go*:
Oregon
KSU
LSU
Alabama
Notre Dame
ND is undefeated but I think all four of the other teams are favoured on a neutral field.
*assuming Alabama loss
As for the Oregon game, wow I'm exhausted.
I thought both defences would be better than they were, that was a straight up shoot out.
Kenyon Barner should be Heisman front-runner after 320 yards and 5 TDs against USC.
Holy shit Berkie.
Yeah, that was kind of amazing. That first half was just a case study in how everything can go exactly right for one team.
Quote from: sbr on November 03, 2012, 10:54:01 PM
As for the Oregon game, wow I'm exhausted.
I thought both defences would be better than they were, that was a straight up shoot out.
Kenyon Barner should be Heisman front-runner after 320 yards and 5 TDs against USC.
I dunno. When I see scores like that, I don't think "somebody played good football". I think it was mostly a huge failure. It's like a Pop Warner everybody gets to score funtime.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 04, 2012, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 03, 2012, 10:54:01 PM
As for the Oregon game, wow I'm exhausted.
I thought both defences would be better than they were, that was a straight up shoot out.
Kenyon Barner should be Heisman front-runner after 320 yards and 5 TDs against USC.
I dunno. When I see scores like that, I don't think "somebody played good football". I think it was mostly a huge failure. It's like a Pop Warner everybody gets to score funtime.
It is pretty difficult to know what you are talking about a when you don't see a game and only rely on seeing the score.
Quote from: sbr on November 04, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 04, 2012, 02:57:41 PM
I dunno. When I see scores like that, I don't think "somebody played good football". I think it was mostly a huge failure. It's like a Pop Warner everybody gets to score funtime.
It is pretty difficult to know what you are talking about a when you don't see a game and only rely on seeing the score.
In other words, same as the defenses. :P
Lulz, suck it, SoCal.
QuoteThe USC Trojans' No. 1 ranked recruiting class took a hit on Sunday night as Max Redfield (Mission Viejo, Calif./Mission Viejo) announced his decommitment.
USC thought it was all set with its 2013 recruiting class -- until the nation's No. 2 athlete decommitted Sunday.
The separation of Redfield from USC began weeks ago, when the ESPN 150 athlete took an official visit to Notre Dame and was blown away by the experience. Redfield posted the news of his decommitment on his Facebook page:
"Going back on my word is something I never imagined doing and it hurts me to do it but in the end I feel is necessary to do in order to decide what college I want to go to and in the end what path I want to take in life. For many different reasons I am choosing to decommit from USC and re-open recruiting. I am sorry to the people I might let down or hurt in this decision but it is a decision that is crucial for my future athletically, academically, and spiritually."
Redfield added that he would not accept media requests for interviews.
The country's No. 37 player overall and No. 2 athlete will take an official visit to Washington on Nov. 9 and likely will schedule an official visit to Oregon as well. Redfield attended USC's home game against Oregon on Saturday, but this decision is something that has been gaining momentum since the Notre Dame visit in early October.
While the Trojans remain an option for Redfield and other Pac-12 programs will push for his commitment, it's likely that everyone is chasing the Fighting Irish at this point.
USC now has 17 commitments in its 2013 recruiting class.
Watch: he'll flunk out of Notre Dame after his first semester of English. HOLY MOTHER DOES NOT SUFFER POOR SENTENCE STRUCTURE
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 05, 2012, 08:35:14 AM
The country's No. 37 player overall and No. 2 athlete
So what's that mean, lots of turnovers/dropped passes/blown coverage/etc?
They don't know what position he will play.
Then it's kind of a meaningless ranking. He's just the 37th best rated player in the class.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 05, 2012, 09:17:38 AM
Then it's kind of a meaningless ranking. He's just the 37th best rated player in the class.
Pretty much.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 04, 2012, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 04, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 04, 2012, 02:57:41 PM
I dunno. When I see scores like that, I don't think "somebody played good football". I think it was mostly a huge failure. It's like a Pop Warner everybody gets to score funtime.
It is pretty difficult to know what you are talking about a when you don't see a game and only rely on seeing the score.
In other words, same as the defenses. :P
I don't get it. :Embarrass:
Darrell Royal died today.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 07, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
Darrell Royal died today.
RIP coach :(
I heard this on the radio today but it was not confirmed yet. Still most of us would love to live 36 years after retiring.
I think as tribute the offense should come out against Iowa State on the first play and line up in the Wishbone. The Stadium would go nuts.
Spent a year as HC at UW right before he went to Tejas.
:lol:
Quote
November 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Is Kiffin wearing on USC?
Posted by Bud Withers
From the start, the "marriage" of Lane Kiffin and Pat Haden didn't seem like a natural. Haden, who played quarterback for the Trojans in the mid-1970s, is a strait-laced, standup guy, and he inherited Kiffin after ex-USC AD Mike Garrett plucked Kiffin from Tennessee when Pete Carroll fled for the Seahawks.
Kiffin's USC team was billed for big things this year. Remember the Sports Illustrated headline with Matt Barkley on the cover, touting the fact he was returning for his senior year, "and he didn't come back to go to the Holiday Bowl"?
Right now, that's about where you'd project the Trojans, who have lost two straight, looking lost trying to defend the spread-option offenses of Arizona and Oregon. They're 6-3 and hosting Arizona State Saturday.
Meanwhile, Kiffin keeps getting embroiled in little incidents, evincing petty, peevish behavior, that must be seriously grating to some old-line Trojan boosters, and perhaps Haden.
The latest is almost unbelievable. Wednesday, the Trojans announced they had fired a student manager for deflating five balls used in the USC-Oregon game last week. Balls slightly deflated are supposed to make it easier to throw and catch, two things the Trojans do very well. More on that here.
(I've heard of teams wanting to take the air out of the ball, but that usually applies to basketball.)
Kiffin claims no knowledge of the manager's stunt, and that may be true. But the manager works for him, and at very least, he's responsible for him.
(Maybe it backfired and helped Oregon. Marcus Mariota completed 20 of 23 throws and Kenjon Barner found the balls enough to his liking that he ran for 321 yards.)
Then there was the tempest a couple of weeks ago in which Kiffin admitted to having players change jersey numbers during a game, apparently to throw off teams scouting the Trojans for future games. More here on that.
My thought on the numbers game: For a big-time college program, this seems awfully high school.
Then there was the dustup early this season, when an LA Daily News reporter wrote about a surgery to kicker Andre Heidari. Kiffin has a policy against reporting injuries from practice, but in this case, the news was apparently gleaned away from practice. Kiffin suspended the reporter for two weeks and revoked his credential for a game, but -- in what can only be interpreted as a repudiation of the action -- USC reinstated the reporter to practice after a couple of days.
Not long after, Kiffin walked out on a daily practice briefing when a reporter asked a question that he found too probing -- after 29 seconds.
You might be asking: Should Kiffin be consumed with antics like manipulating jersey numbers and deflating balls, or the fact he's got a defense that's been folded, stapled and mutilated the last couple of weeks?
I'm guessing the same question has occurred to Haden.
Christ, how many more teams and programs does that man have to go through before people figure out he's a useless dickhead?
Dammit the LOnghorn Network has finally beaten me. I cannot find a single stream of the game today.
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Dammit the LOnghorn Network has finally beaten me. I cannot find a single stream of the game today.
Just saw this. Check yo inbox.
Stupid Louisville. How the hell you get blown out by Syracuse by halftime. Dummies.
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8614045
Yeah Royal never ran the Wishbone quit like that :P
Man I am glad to see Texas turn this season around like this. Granted it would have been nicer to do it before they were knocked out of contention. Ah well. Beat TCU and they will have met expectations.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 10, 2012, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Dammit the LOnghorn Network has finally beaten me. I cannot find a single stream of the game today.
Just saw this. Check yo inbox.
They took it down :(
That's great to see. Wyoming is honoring the past this year by playing like the biggest pile of crap ever - I believe it is in honor of the 1970 team.
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
They took it down :(
Welp. They've got Case out there now anyway, so no big deal.
Heh, Texas A & M.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 10, 2012, 06:47:09 PM
Heh, Texas A & M.
LOL. They did this to OKlahoma once as well. Bet the SEC is glad they invited these guys in to ruin their chance at another national title eh?
This is what I get for taking a football day off. Antichrist Saban in trouble.
Wow this game (Bama and A&M) :lol:
Eat it, Nick Satan.
OREGON AND NOTRE DAME HIS WILL BE DONE
Valmy, I'm conflicted. I like seeing Alabama loose, but it was the Aggies that beat them...what do I do?
Quote from: PDH on November 10, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Valmy, I'm conflicted. I like seeing Alabama loose, but it was the Aggies that beat them...what do I do?
Hope the stadium explodes.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 10, 2012, 07:08:40 PM
OREGON AND NOTRE DAME HIS WILL BE DONE
I have faith that the Trojans can ruin ND's season, but a growing concern that it will be Oregon and KSU.
Kadeem Carey today:
25 rushes for 366 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Set a Pac-12 record for rushing yards in a game.
Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2012, 11:46:49 PM
Kadeem Carey today:
25 rushes for 366 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Set a Pac-12 record for rushing yards in a game.
Can we really call Colorado a Pac-12 team????
I knew when I posted that you would come and take a giant, steaming dump on it.
I watched most of the game today, Berk, and it was a bad ass performance. :hug: Considering it must've been the equivalent of 8am for the Wildcats, who I rarely see before the sun sets.
Quote from: Berkut on November 11, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
I knew when I posted that you would come and take a giant, steaming dump on it.
My ire is aimed at Colorado, not at Zona. Sides shouldn't you be getting all jazzed for the Pac-12 media's darling down in Tucson starting their basketball season this weekend.
Quote from: katmai on November 11, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2012, 11:46:49 PM
Kadeem Carey today:
25 rushes for 366 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Set a Pac-12 record for rushing yards in a game.
Can we really call Colorado a Pac-12 team????
Well, they are member of the PAC-12. The real question is whether those guys out on the field can really be called a football team.
Colorado lost to Colorado State. They were way better when they had all those pot-smoking rapists on the team.
Quote from: katmai on November 11, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
Can we really call Colorado a Pac-12 team????
Well...they did beat Washington State.
Quote from: Valmy on November 11, 2012, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 11, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
Can we really call Colorado a Pac-12 team????
Well...they did beat Washington State.
Hardly a team since they seem to be imploding with more charges of physical abuse by coaches upon the players.
and No SEC team in top 2 of BCS standings....and Washington is 25th in BCS?!?!?!
Quote from: katmai on November 12, 2012, 12:02:02 AM
and Washington is 25th in BCS?!?!?!
It is because a couple of the computers have them in the top 15. Pretty hilarious.
Quote from: Valmy on November 12, 2012, 01:26:31 AM
Quote from: katmai on November 12, 2012, 12:02:02 AM
and Washington is 25th in BCS?!?!?!
It is because a couple of the computers have them in the top 15. Pretty hilarious.
Well they have had the 2nd toughest schedule in nation. :whistle:
Quote from: katmai on November 12, 2012, 12:02:02 AM
and No SEC team in top 2 of BCS standings....
But they have spots 4-9 locked down. :lol:
Well, I was kind of hoping for a K State-Alabama BCS title game. I figured, let Snyder's guys try what others have failed at--try to beat the Tide by putting a good, non-SEC offense up against their defense. But now, I'll be OK with K State-ND. I'm just hoping Oregon doesn't slip in--screw the Ducks and their Nike money.
Looks like Dooley will get the axe at Tennessee.
Posting it here, because I know the Euros and fags don't read this thread, but is it just me, or did the Lakers make a huge mistake in picking Mike D'Antoni over bringing back Phil Jackson?
Hell, the only person that could possibly corral all those egos is Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVr02KGMjRM
"Thank you...'Doug.'"
Tiger Pride :bleeding:
QuoteAs university leaders weigh weather to cut baseball and men's soccer, Towson will be featured by the newsmagazine show "60 Minutes" as an example of a relatively unknown school trying to raise its profile with football.
Reporters for the show traveled with the Tigers to Baton Rouge to work on the story, which explains how Towson was paid $500,000 to play its game at LSU but reaped more in the way of exposure by playing one of Divsion I's best and most-popular teams. We wrote about the issue at the time.
The timing of the show could not come at a more interesting period. University president Maravene Loeschke has said that a task force evaluating athletic director Mike Waddell's proposal to cut the two sports is in its "final deliberations." That group met yesterday, but did not deliver its final findings. Loeschke is scheduled to meet with the school's board of visitors today. She has said all along that her plan was to receive the task force's report -- though she has also conducted her own concurrent study -- and make a swift decision some time this month. (Here's our broad look at the situation, in case you haven't read it.)
The "60 Minutes" preview and a brief story posted on the show's website make it clear that one of Waddell's primary goals is to bolster football in hopes of improving the school's reputation. This should come as no surprise. Waddell was hired by former Towson president Robert Caret, who believed in the idea that sports -- specifically those that garner attention by media and fans -- serve as the "front porch" of a university.
But his critics -- especially those affiliated with the endangered programs -- will seize on the "60 Minutes" story as proof that Waddell is merely swiping two sports aside to free up money to divert to football and basketball. They have already pointed out that the department was set to run a deficit of $850,000 for fiscal year 2012, which is how much Waddell will eventually save by eliminating the programs.
Waddell, for his part, has said from the beginning that cutting the two sports will allow him to re-distribute money to other programs. He has increased spending by $2.5 million since arriving two years ago; 63 percent of that has gone to salaries. Both football coach Rob Ambrose and basketball coach Pat Skerry contributed to that increase, as did their assistants. But numbers Waddell provided The Sun show that he has added more than $700,000 in salaries related to fundraising, academics, strength training and administration from fiscal year 2011 to 2012.
Waddell considers improvements in these areas to be helping the "competitiveness" of Towson's remaining sports teams. There is some direct correlation there, of course: athletes who spend more time lifting weights or doing so under the supervision of more experienced trainers will presumably perform better on the field. But there's also a hidden element here: recruiting football and basketball players very often comes down to amenities. The number of tutors and presence of a sport-specific strength and conditioning coach matters to them.
After word broke that Towson does not need to make drastic cuts to establish Title IX compliance, it has become more clear that Waddell's plan -- originally meant to achieve the goal of increasing competitiveness, establishing long-term financial stability and establishing Title IX compliance -- is really focused on shifting the way Towson's athletic department spends its money.
Sunday's episode will be a nationally televised explanation of why football matters so much to Towson.
To some people, it will also be a reminder of the two sports that might not matter at Towson beyond this spring.
UCLA is slapping the shit out of USC already. :lol:
Lane Kiffin might be the worst coach in the country.
Quote from: sbr on November 17, 2012, 04:14:12 PM
UCLA is slapping the shit out of USC already. :lol:
Lane Kiffin might be the worst coach in the country.
I'm torn by this, as i would rather they keep holding on to Kiffin for few more years and insure their slide intro mediocrity.
Hmm, I may have spoke to soon.
QuoteMaryland and Rutgers are in advanced discussions with the Big Ten about joining the conference, multiple sources have told Yahoo! Sports.
Nothing is official yet, but tentative plans for announcements from the two schools that they are leaving their current leagues could come early next week, sources said. Maryland is a founding member of the Atlantic Coast Conference and Rutgers has been a member of the Big East since 1991.
Their movement would increase Big Ten membership to 14, and would come not long after most college sports observers believed the conference realignment carousel had stopped spinning. Notre Dame's announcement in September that it would join the ACC while remaining independent in football was thought to be the end of a two-year spasm of realignment that significantly altered the college landscape. Big Ten leadership last spring said it was comfortable with its current 12-school alignment.
Quote from: katmai on November 17, 2012, 05:29:31 PM
Maryland and Rutgers are in advanced discussions with the Big Ten about joining the conference, multiple sources have told Yahoo! Sports.
Nothing is official yet, but tentative plans for announcements from the two schools that they are leaving their current leagues could come early next week, sources said. Maryland is a founding member of the Atlantic Coast Conference and Rutgers has been a member of the Big East since 1991.
Their movement would increase Big Ten membership to 14, and would come not long after most college sports observers believed the conference realignment carousel had stopped spinning. Notre Dame's announcement in September that it would join the ACC while remaining independent in football was thought to be the end of a two-year spasm of realignment that significantly altered the college landscape. Big Ten leadership last spring said it was comfortable with its current 12-school alignment.
I still have to call into question the stability of the Big Ten conference. :hmm:
UTSA up 20-3 over Idaho at the half. If they can hold on, this would be win #7 with the game vs Texas State still left.
Fuck Wisconsin. My nipples are hard.
Maryland and Rutgers? WTF Big 10?
Quote from: Valmy on November 17, 2012, 07:04:23 PM
Maryland and Rutgers? WTF Big 10?
Still hankerin' for that mythical east coast tv exposure.
Damn I go get some booze and smokes and check the score on the way home and its 27-20 UTSA in the 4th q. FIRE COKER
E: oh it refreshed again and it's 34-20. I guess Larry can stay
E2: wtf I get home and turn it on, and its 34-27 now. Three TDs in like 4 minutes. UTSA just recovered a muffed punt with 2:28 left though. Idaho player tried to pick it up when it was rolling/bouncing and couldn't do it. Nice job, dude.
Pulled it out, 34-27 :cool:
After losing the QB for three games (and part of a 4th) due to concussions, losing 4 games by less than 5 points each, and generally having a shitty year, the Wyoming team has won 3 in a row. They can finish no better than 5-7 but that is a hell of lot better than the 1-7 they were three weeks ago.
It truly sucks being a fan of a mediocre team.
Baylor up 2 touchdowns on KSU. Go Bears!
Well that's a shame.
Downside: SEC is in championship again
Upside: SEC beats ND by 50 again
NOTRE DAME! :pope:
Suck it haters! :showoff:
Quote from: sbr on November 17, 2012, 11:32:27 PM
Upside: SEC beats ND by 50 again
Lame ass sour graps right after your team blew it.
:nelson: @ DUCKS
Quote from: Valmy on November 17, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 17, 2012, 11:32:27 PM
Upside: SEC beats ND by 50 again
Lame ass sour graps right after your team blew it.
No, just looking on the bright side of things.
I'm surprised, but not shocked by the loss. Though I figured it would be their defense that cost them a game, not their offense.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 17, 2012, 11:39:45 PM
NOTRE DAME! :pope:
Suck it haters! :showoff:
Great. Tainted.
Do us all a favor and get on a float at some train tracks. You imbecilic fuck.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 17, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 17, 2012, 07:04:23 PM
Maryland and Rutgers? WTF Big 10?
Still hankerin' for that mythical east coast tv exposure.
It's a stupid, stupid move, for all parties involved.
As for Maryland, I don't know why the AD's office insists on believing the myth that the Midwest is better fertile ground for recruits than the South.
And good luck trying to convince the Board of Regents that the ACC's $50M exit fee is worth paying for the right to get crushed by Iowa, when they can stay and get crushed by Florida State.
QuoteAnderson, who arrived as athletic director from West Point two years ago, has often said he wants to take Maryland "from good to great," a reference to a 2001 book by Jim Collins that chronicles the successes of business leaders. Anderson's management style is modeled in part on the book.
Super. Another fucking MBA in charge.
QuoteA move to the Big Ten would mean the resumption of a longtime Maryland-Penn State football series that was popular with local fans but was dominated by the Nittany Lions. Penn State beat Maryland, 70-7, in 1993, the last time they played.
Yahoo. Like getting ritually assbanged by WVU isn't enough.
Quote"If I were on the Board of Regents, I would say 'Don't even think about it,' " said former Maryland basketball coach Lefty Driesell, who also played in the ACC, for Duke. "It's not all about money. The students are interested in Duke and Carolina and N.C. State. They don't know anything about Wisconsin and Illinois."
Preach it, Lefty. U of MD, like Duke and UNC, is just a basketball school that just happens to play football.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 18, 2012, 06:40:21 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 17, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 17, 2012, 07:04:23 PM
Maryland and Rutgers? WTF Big 10?
Still hankerin' for that mythical east coast tv exposure.
It's a stupid, stupid move, for all parties involved.
As for Maryland, I don't know why the AD's office insists on believing the myth that the Midwest is better fertile ground for recruits than the South.
And good luck trying to convince the Board of Regents that the ACC's $50M exit fee is worth paying for the right to get crushed by Iowa, when they can stay and get crushed by Florida State.
QuoteA move to the Big Ten would mean the resumption of a longtime Maryland-Penn State football series that was popular with local fans but was dominated by the Nittany Lions. Penn State beat Maryland, 70-7, in 1993, the last time they played.
Yahoo. Like getting ritually assbanged by WVU isn't enough.
Quote"If I were on the Board of Regents, I would say 'Don't even think about it,' " said former Maryland basketball coach Lefty Driesell, who also played in the ACC, for Duke. "It's not all about money. The students are interested in Duke and Carolina and N.C. State. They don't know anything about Wisconsin and Illinois."
Preach it, Lefty. U of MD, like Duke and UNC, is just a basketball school that just happens to play football.
I gotta disagree with one thing here: Driesell is wrong--it
is all about the money, though of course it shouldn't be, and all too often I think the administrators making the decisions have been fooling themselves about how much more money all these moves the last few years are really going to make.
Also, Rutgers, I can understand, but why exactly does the Big 10 want Maryland? No offense, but I'd think that Virginia or BC would be a better fit if they're going after an ACC school.
All the Big East Schools take annual turns in kicking the conference in the nuts - they they run off laughing.
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2012, 11:33:46 AM
Also, Rutgers, I can understand, but why exactly does the Big 10 want Maryland? No offense, but I'd think that Virginia or BC would be a better fit if they're going after an ACC school.
I dunno; Rutgers has the northern Jersey/NYC TV market, but for some reason they're enamored with the DC/Northern Virginia TV market. Then again, I'm not sure the Big 10 wants Maryland as much as Maryland wants the Big 10. :lol:
I dunno, I would think that expanding the ACC would be better for everyone involved rather than bolting to other conferences.
I still think that the last ACC expansion was stupid. I can understand why conferences want 12 teams so that they can stage a championship game, but I can't see any good reason to want to grow beyond that. Plus, in the particular case of the last announced ACC expansion, they compounded the stupid by taking Pitt.
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2012, 02:57:01 PM
I still think that the last ACC expansion was stupid. I can understand why conferences want 12 teams so that they can stage a championship game, but I can't see any good reason to want to grow beyond that. Plus, in the particular case of the last announced ACC expansion, they compounded the stupid by taking Pitt.
Compounding the expansion with the new TV deal the ACC got in 2010, it made $$$ sense. But it'll always be a second-rate conference, competitive-wise. The PAC-10 of the Atlantic.
Hell, they had VT and U of Miami join specifically to raise the national championship chances for the conference, as well as request FSU to lose its independent status and join. I'm trying to remember how many national championships those three teams have held since they joined the ACC.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 18, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2012, 02:57:01 PM
I still think that the last ACC expansion was stupid. I can understand why conferences want 12 teams so that they can stage a championship game, but I can't see any good reason to want to grow beyond that. Plus, in the particular case of the last announced ACC expansion, they compounded the stupid by taking Pitt.
Compounding the expansion with the new TV deal the ACC got in 2010, it made $$$ sense. But it'll always be a second-rate conference, competitive-wise. The PAC-10 of the Atlantic.
Hell, they had VT and U of Miami join specifically to raise the national championship chances for the conference, as well as request FSU to lose its independent status and join. I'm trying to remember how many national championships those three teams have held since they joined the ACC.
Two, both by Florida State, and both in the last century. :) But to be fair, Florida State was at least a contender for the national championship every year for a decade after they joined, and Virginia Tech has been considered a contender most years since joining. Miami has definately been a disappointment.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 18, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
I dunno; Rutgers has the northern Jersey/NYC TV market, but for some reason they're enamored with the DC/Northern Virginia TV market. Then again, I'm not sure the Big 10 wants Maryland as much as Maryland wants the Big 10. :lol:
I dunno, I would think that expanding the ACC would be better for everyone involved rather than bolting to other conferences.
Heh. Yeah sure they do. And Coppin State has the Baltimore TV market to.
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 18, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
I dunno; Rutgers has the northern Jersey/NYC TV market, but for some reason they're enamored with the DC/Northern Virginia TV market. Then again, I'm not sure the Big 10 wants Maryland as much as Maryland wants the Big 10. :lol:
I dunno, I would think that expanding the ACC would be better for everyone involved rather than bolting to other conferences.
Heh. Yeah sure they do. And Coppin State has the Baltimore TV market to.
I think that the fallacy here is the idea that people in the NYC area care about college football.
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
I think that the fallacy here is the idea that people in the NYC area care about college football.
Yep. You do not capture Pro-dominated TV markets with College Teams.
Quote from: dps on November 18, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
I think that the fallacy here is the idea that people in the NYC area care about college football.
High school football players might.
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Heh. Yeah sure they do. And Coppin State has the Baltimore TV market to.
What's yer problem with the Eagles? :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 18, 2012, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 18, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Heh. Yeah sure they do. And Coppin State has the Baltimore TV market to.
What's yer problem with the Eagles? :mad:
Nothing at all. Texas plays them in Basketball all the time including a legendary second round game back in the 90s. But just because they are in a market does not bring they bring ratings and TV sets with them. Baltimore is a pro market.
Anyway it sounds like it was done, BR voted unanimously, Maryland is going to announce this shortly. Adding Nebraska made sense, for the Big 10 anyway, but this is lunacy.
Quote from: Valmy on November 19, 2012, 11:37:14 AM
Anyway it sounds like it was done, BR voted unanimously, Maryland is going to announce this shortly. Adding Nebraska made sense, for the Big 10 anyway, but this is lunacy.
I don't like it one damned bit.
They voted.
QuoteMaryland's application for admission to the Big Ten has been approved by the conference's Council of Presidents, making the university's move from the ACC official. With coaches and administrators lined up on a stage in the student union building, Maryland President Wallace Loh was joined by Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney. In his opening remarks, Loh called this is a "watershed" moment, saying the board of regents voted "very strongly" to apply for membership in the Big Ten. According to Loh, the No. 1 reason for joining the Big Ten is financial. "We will be able to guarantee the stability of the athletics department for years to come," he said.
Setting aside almost 60 years of athletic tradition in a quest for greater financial stability, the University of Maryland will join the Big Ten Conference, school and league officials announced Monday after a weekend of whirlwind negotiations.
In another of the massive conference shifts that have defined college sports in recent years, Maryland will join the traditionally Midwestern Big Ten in 2014, leaving behind the Atlantic Coast Conference, which the university helped found in 1953.
The move is an emotional one for students, athletes and alumni, many of whom were raised on fierce rivalry games between Maryland and ACC powers such as Duke and the University of North Carolina. But the millions of dollars in additional revenue from the Big Ten's television deals was too great for Maryland officials, who cut seven sports this year in hopes of closing a $4 million deficit in the athletic department budget.
At an afternoon news conference on campus, university president Wallace Loh described the move as a "watershed moment" that will "ensure the financial sustainability of Maryland athletics for years to come." He added that a new influx of revenue would allow the university to restore teams that were cut earlier this year for budget reasons.
In detailing negotiations that lasted about two weeks, Loh and athletic director Kevin Anderson said the university's coaches were initially stunned by the possible move and acknowledged that many students and alumni are unhappy.
"At first, it was like going through all the processes of grieving," Anderson said of his meetings with coaches.
"I'm very aware that for many Terp fans and alumni, the reaction is stunned," Loh said. "I made this decision as best I could, in consultation with key stakeholders and after doing due diligence. There was only one objective: do what's best for the University of Maryland."
Maryland's Board of Regents voted to endorse the move Monday morning after being briefed Sunday by Loh. The Big Ten's Council of Presidents then quickly approved Maryland's application for admission. The startling shift was a done deal less than 48 hours after negotiations became public knowledge.
Big Ten commissioner James E. Delany described his presidents as "giddy" in approving Maryland's application. He said that as a flagship university representing a demographically rich state that's contiguous to existing Big Ten territory, Maryland is a perfect addition. "I know there's some ambivalence and maybe some anger," Delany said in addressing Maryland fans. "But I hope that over time, we can embrace each other and realize that we can be better together than we were apart."
The jump could come with a hefty initial price tag of $50 million, the cost of exiting the ACC as approved by the conference's schools earlier this year. University system officials said Monday they weren't sure how much Maryland would end up paying or how the cost would be covered. Loh said the university has a plan and that details would be worked out in private negotiations with ACC officials.
But system leaders said the long-term financial benefits of joining the Big Ten would outweigh the initial financial hit.
"We've got to look to the future," said state regent Patricia Florestano in explaining the vote.
Maryland was expected to receive about $17 million a year in shared television revenue from the ACC once the league expanded to include Syracuse University and the University of Pittsburgh in 2013. Big Ten schools will each receive about $24.6 million this year, according to a May report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and analysts say that number could rise with expansion.
With Maryland and the expected addition Tuesday of Rutgers University, the footprint of the 14-team Big 10 would stretch from the East Coast to Nebraska, with major television markets such as New York, Chicago and Baltimore/Washington included.
That geographic reach will give the Big Ten greater leverage when it negotiates a new media rights deal in 2017. It will also allow the already-prosperous Big Ten Network to charge higher rights fees from East Coast and Mid-Atlantic cable distributors, said regional network analyst Lee Berke, CEO of LHB Sports, Entertainment & Media, Inc.
"They might be able to double their fees in many markets, which would allow a substantial leap forward financially for the schools," Berke said. "Overall, there's great upside for Maryland to make this move in terms of geography, television and finances."
Berke said it's too early to put an exact figure on how much Big Ten schools will profit from expansion. A Sports Illustrated report Monday said Big Ten officials had told Maryland it could add almost $100 million by 2020 in the conference switch.
Maryland officials said they were also enticed by the prospect of joining an academic consortium of Big Ten schools known as the Committee on Institutional Cooperation, which pools research assets.
"I support the move largely because of what it means to the university academically," said William E. Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland. Kirwan has spent most of his career in Maryland, including a stint as the president at College Park, but he also served as president at Ohio State University in the Big Ten.
"There's nothing to match this level of academic collaboration in any other major conference," Kirwan said of the Big Ten consortium.
Long-term antidote?
The move is likely to be seen as a defining moment for Loh, who came to College Park two years ago from the University of Iowa, a Big Ten school. Loh inherited an athletic department in financial turmoil because of disappointing revenues in football and men's basketball and debt from a $50.8-million facelift to Byrd Stadium.
Program cuts were his short-term answer, but on Monday, Loh said the athletic department is still living "paycheck to paycheck." He described the move to the Big Ten as a long-term antidote.
Loh said he wasn't seriously considering a move when discussions with the Big Ten began more than two weeks ago. But as negotiations intensified, he said he was swayed by the prospect of protecting the university from painful program cuts for decades to come.
Asked which teams might be restored from men's and women's swimming, men's tennis, women's water polo, acrobatics and tumbling, men's cross country and men's indoor track, Anderson said he would reconvene the committee that reviewed the original program cuts and move from there.
The memory of cutting those teams weighed heavily on Anderson, who broke the news in dozens of face-to-face conversations with athletes. It helped drive the decision to find Maryland a more comfortable financial environment in the Big Ten.
Anderson and others also questioned whether the ACC had a strong enough football profile. Maryland had been among conference schools privately expressing interest in further expansion, according to ACC member representatives.
Approval for the conference move was not unanimous among the regents, who oversee the state university system. Regent Tom McMillen, a former Maryland basketball star, said he was troubled by the speed of negotiations on so large an issue.
"I was against it," McMillen said. "I felt there was no time for an opposing view. I felt a decision like this should have been made with more consultation and deliberation.
"The decision was all about money no matter how you sugarcoat it. I wanted to hear from athletes. I wanted to hear from the ACC."
A spokeswoman said Gov. Martin O'Malley was aware of negotiations with the Big Ten but left the decision to the university system.
Reaction was swift
As news of the possible move spread over the weekend, students, fans and alumni flocked to social media to express their distaste. A Facebook group called "Keep UMD in the ACC!" had almost 2,000 members by Monday afternoon.
Maryland sold out its lengthy tradition with the ACC, said James Booth, a junior from Hartsdale, N.Y.
"I don't put much stock in what [Wallace Loh] says anymore," he said. "I think he's a businessman. He makes the university money, or is trying to, which is a good thing in some aspects. But I really feel like he's, as far as the individual student experience, whether it be outside of athletics or within in terms of the whole ACC, it's all about the money to him."
The athletic benefits are most obvious in football, where Big 10 powers such as Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State draw some of the largest crowds in the sport and where Maryland's rivalries are less deep-seated.
Though Maryland football has traditionally struggled against the Big Ten, Anderson said he's confident that with new recruiting avenues open "we will be very competitive."
Men's basketball, by contrast, is where fans will feel the most acute pain as they cling to memories of classic games against North Carolina and Duke that brought the College Park campus to a frenzy. Though Indiana, Ohio State and Michigan State carry grand traditions in the sport, any sense of rivalry with Maryland will have to grow from the ground up.
The move also prompted concerns in lacrosse, where Maryland has built powerful men's and women's programs in part because of its rivalries with ACC schools such as North Carolina, Duke and the University of Virginia. The Big Ten has no equivalent powerhouses on the men's side and only Northwestern University on the women's side. "At first glance, it looks like a negative, because the ACC is the premiere conference in college lacrosse," said ESPN analyst Mark Dixon.
But the jump drew support from heavyweights such as Gary Williams, who played at Maryland and coached the school to its lone national championship in men's basketball. Williams also coached in the Big Ten at Ohio State and has served as an analyst for the Big Ten Network. "I think Maryland is looking at what's best for them for the future," Williams said in a Sunday interview.
Political leaders with ties to the university also endorsed the move. "I go to as many men's basketball games as I can and will miss the match-ups against teams like Duke and UNC," said Baltimore County Democratic Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, who played lacrosse at Maryland. "That said, I think this move will enable Maryland to stay competitive and generate the revenue needed to sustain a successful athletic program."
On the Big Ten network, they blew a collective load in thier pants on the Maryland special.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
On the Big Ten network, they blew a collective load in thier pants on the Maryland special.
"Finally, a real cream puff in the conference! Vandy's been getting too uppity!"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
On the Big Ten network, they blew a collective load in thier pants on the Maryland special.
"Finally, a real cream puff in the conference! Vandy's been getting too uppity!"
Isn't Vandy in the SEC? :huh:
you'll have to forgive Seedy, i think he's suffered a stroke
It seems San Diego State and Boise State are having second thoughts about jumping to the Big East...sorry guys.
Fuck Boise state.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
"Finally, a real cream puff in the conference! Vandy's been getting too uppity!"
Eh the Big Ten already has some pretty terrible teams. They did not need another one.
Need two more after this batch comes in. C'mon in texas, you know you want the BIG's cold deathly embrace..
Quote from: sbr on November 19, 2012, 08:56:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
On the Big Ten network, they blew a collective load in thier pants on the Maryland special.
"Finally, a real cream puff in the conference! Vandy's been getting too uppity!"
Isn't Vandy in the SEC? :huh:
He meant Indiana. Or Northwestern. Take your pick.
Northwestern isn't bad.
Yeah Indiana is figuring out how to play football too. Weird.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 19, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Yeah Indiana is figuring out how to play football too. Weird.
I like their stadium. Too bad it is usually 1/3 empty.
If the BIG needs cupcakes, they should invite Wyoming! Hey, we do research here.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 19, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 19, 2012, 08:56:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 19, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
On the Big Ten network, they blew a collective load in thier pants on the Maryland special.
"Finally, a real cream puff in the conference! Vandy's been getting too uppity!"
Isn't Vandy in the SEC? :huh:
He meant Indiana. Or Northwestern. Take your pick.
Yeah.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 19, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
He meant Indiana. Or Northwestern. Take your pick.
Illinois, Purdue, and Iowa. This season anyway.
Minnesota is pretty bad to.
Big 12 Schedule 2013 is out: http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205751789&DB_OEM_ID=10410
And Rutgers enters the fold.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 20, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
And Rutgers enters the fold.
Ok the Big 10's rejection of Missouri really looks puzzling now. Leaving room for Rutgers?
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 20, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
And Rutgers enters the fold.
Ok the Big 10's rejection of Missouri really looks puzzling now. Leaving room for Rutgers?
I don't think anybody really liked missou.
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
Ok the Big 10's rejection of Missouri really looks puzzling now. Leaving room for Rutgers?
Probably looking to expand into market areas that don't suck.
E: The BTN gets on basic cable + gets more $$ per subscriber in their "home" areas, right?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 20, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
Ok the Big 10's rejection of Missouri really looks puzzling now. Leaving room for Rutgers?
Probably looking to expand into market areas that don't suck.
E: The BTN gets on basic cable + gets more $$ per subscriber in their "home" areas, right?
I assume that that's what they're thinking, or perhaps better put, hoping.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 20, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
Probably looking to expand into market areas that don't suck.
It didn't suck enough for the SECdm
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 20, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
Probably looking to expand into market areas that don't suck.
It didn't suck enough for the SECdm
They have the mighty Tuscaloosa, AL and Oxford, MS media markets already. They're set.
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
It didn't suck enough for the SECdm
It didn't matter for the SEC. They got into Texas. They needed #14 right then, and the Big 12 was pretty destabilized already and Mizzou was pretty obviously looking to go anywhere.
E: I'm not some "insider" type, but I wonder if they tried for VT or someone first to go with TAMU, were told no, then took Missouri. There was a bit of a delay there, I believe.
SUddenly the Pac-12 is not looking nearly so brilliant.
Kadeem Carey: Leads the nation in rushing yards. Not a Doak Walker award finalist. Or semi-finalist.
Quote from: Berkut on November 20, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
SUddenly the Pac-12 is not looking nearly so brilliant.
Hey they might end up being the only conference with 12 teams and no weird pods or whatever when all this shit finally finishes, but still have a nice reserved playoff spot for the conf. champion. That wouldn't be so bad.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 20, 2012, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
It didn't suck enough for the SECdm
It didn't matter for the SEC. They got into Texas. They needed #14 right then, and the Big 12 was pretty destabilized already and Mizzou was pretty obviously looking to go anywhere.
E: I'm not some "insider" type, but I wonder if they tried for VT or someone first to go with TAMU, were told no, then took Missouri. There was a bit of a delay there, I believe.
Or, the other SEC schools realized that Vandy is improving, and took Missouri 'cause they needed a new doormat.
I predict FSU, Clemson, Miami, GT, BYU and Louisville to the Big 12!
Virginia Tech and NC State to the SEC!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 20, 2012, 06:33:21 PM
I predict FSU, Clemson, Miami, GT, BYU and Louisville to the Big 12!
Heh. We should be so lucky.
BYU is going to come back to the MWC I think, as much I hate those bitches. Hubris meant they thought they could go it alone, reality they are more out in the cold than ever. I would think that if the Big East falls apart more then the MWC could see Boise (ick) and San Diego State back (losers) as well.
That, of course, means Wyoming will be free to jump to the Big 12 to continue the rivalry with Texas.
Quote from: dps on November 20, 2012, 06:31:32 PM
Or, the other SEC schools realized that Vandy is improving, and took Missouri 'cause they needed a new doormat.
:lol: Didn't look at it that way. You might be on to something.
Yikes. Way to take a dump all over the field, Horns. That last throw by Case into an area with like six TCU players with ~1:20 left capped things off nicely.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 22, 2012, 10:39:49 PM
Yikes. Way to take a dump all over the field, Horns. That last throw by Case into an area with like six TCU players with ~1:20 left capped things off nicely.
Yeah that was something special. :bleeding:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 22, 2012, 10:39:49 PM
Yikes. Way to take a dump all over the field, Horns. That last throw by Case into an area with like six TCU players with ~1:20 left capped things off nicely.
Well Case was who we thought he was. He might be a decent QB if he just had an arm. He was clearly trying to throw deep and that is where things go to shit.
Well season over for intents and purposes. I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game. But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Well Case was who we thought he was. He might be a decent QB if he just had an arm. He was clearly trying to throw deep and that is where things go to shit.
Yeah, but to be fair, his arm strength is better than last year. Of course, that's not saying much, since he basically had the arm of a newborn baby last year.
QuoteWell season over. I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game. But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.
I hope you're right.
Appropriate for Rivalry Weekend.
QuoteESPN playbook investigates popular sports mythology in Sports Legends Revealed. Today: Did Bo Schembechler own a Domino's Pizza franchise in Columbus, Ohio?
Imagine it's Nov. 20, 1982, and you're a football fan attending Ohio State University. You're hanging out with your friends and conversation probably turns to the stunning ending to the Cal-Stanford game earlier in the day, in which Cal lateraled their way to victory through the Stanford band and into the history books.
But you're likely most concerned about the game earlier that day, where your Ohio State Buckeyes defeated the Michigan Wolverines, 24-14, in front of 90,252 screaming fans in Ohio Stadium in Columbus.
OSU handed Michigan its first Big Ten loss (due to playing one more conference game, Michigan would still win the Big Ten Conference title with an 8-1 record as opposed to Ohio State's 7-1 record). It also gave Buckeyes coach Earle Bruce three wins in his first four matchups with longtime Michigan coach Bo Schembechler after Bruce replaced the legendary Woody Hayes in 1979.
You likely savor this feat, especially since Schembechler had a winning record in games against his former mentor, Hayes. And while you're celebrating, you and your friends order a couple of pizzas from Domino's.
Could you imagine that you actually just paid Schembechler for the pizza? In Columbus, Ohio, where hating Bo Schembechler is a way of life?
Due to an amazing contract negotiation earlier in the year, the answer might surprise you.
Schembechler had just finished his 13th season as the Michigan head coach with a victory in the Bluebonnet Bowl over UCLA on Dec. 31, 1981. In those 13 seasons, Schembechler had put together an impressive resume, including nine Big Ten Conference championships, two bowl wins and 11 top-10 finishes in the final Coaches and Associated Press polls.
So it came as no surprise that Texas A&M made a big push to hire Schembechler away from Michigan to be their new head coach and athletic director. What was a bit of a surprise was just how impressive their contract offer was: 10 years and roughly $2.5 million (monetary specifics in contract offers always seem to be hard to pin down -- the offer has been reported in various sources as low as $2.25 million and as high as $2.9 million). But at any rate, it was the largest coaching contract offer in the history of college sports at the time.
Schembechler ultimately turned the offer down, and the Aggies turned to Pittsburgh's Jackie Sherrill, who signed for 6 years and $1.6 million.
"Frankly, I've come to the conclusion that there are things more important in this world than money," Schembechler announced. "For that reason, I've decided to stay at Michigan."
Of course, Michigan did give Schembechler a 40 percent raise in his per-game salary, going from $60,000 to $85,000. So while Schembechler did take less money to stay in Ann Arbor, he still benefitted from the overture.
But a fascinating wrinkle in the contract negotiations with Michigan in response to the Texas A&M offer is the involvement of Tom Monaghan, founder and owner of Domino's Pizza.
Monaghan was an Ann Arbor native who started Domino's Pizza while he was attending Michigan in 1960. Monaghan's business thrived under two very important innovations. First, he re-invented the pizza box, creating the first pizza box that could support the weight of a second pizza box right on top of it, allowing a delivery man to deliver multiple pizzas at once.
Second, he specifically targeted college students, placing franchises in all of the major university towns, including Ann Arbor and Columbus. By the late 1970s, Domino's had over 200 franchises in locations all across the United States. That number hit the quadruple digits by the early 1980s, so Monaghan quickly became a multi-millionaire. Once he became a great business success, Monaghan devoted a lot of his life to pursuits outside of pizza, including charity, architecture -- he had planned to become an architect before his pizza business got in the way -- politics and, of course, sports.
To say Monaghan was a fan of Schembechler would be a massive understatement. Monaghan practically idolized the legendary coach, even in 1989 naming Schembechler president of the Detroit Tigers, which Monaghan had owned since 1983.
Suffice it to say that in early 1982, Monaghan would do his best to keep Schembechler in Ann Arbor. So when Texas A&M made its offer, Monaghan made his own offer, later explaining that he "felt a responsibility to keep him in Ann Arbor if I could."
"Bo had once mentioned casually that he'd like to own a Domino's store. We had two corporate stores in Columbus, and in a flash of inspiration, I decided I'd give one of those stores to Bo," Monaghan told James Leonard in his biography, "Living the Faith." "As it turned out, he had already made up his mind to stay in Michigan, but I gave him the store anyhow."
And that's how OSU students ended up paying their nemesis for pizza in the very heart of anti-Schembechler country, where there is even a popular band named "Dead Schembechlers."
Of note, however: "Owned" in this context is a bit different than what you would expect. As Monaghan noted in his explanation of his actions, the two stores in Columbus were "corporate stores," meaning that they were franchises owned directly by Domino's and not by an individual franchisee.
Tim McIntyre, Vice President of Communications at Domino's Pizza, told Playbook that when Monaghan mentioned "giving" the store to Schembechler, he only meant giving the profits that the store generated. So Schembechler never physically owned the Domino's.
The financial relationship Schembechler had with the Columbus franchise ended in 1992 when Monaghan fired him as president of the Tigers, according to David Ablauf, Associate Athletic Director, Media and Public Relations at the University of Michigan. After his termination, Schembechler sued Monaghan over a number of financial incentives he claimed that Monaghan had promised him and never delivered.
The case famously turned on whether a Domino's napkin with terms written down on it could be entered as evidence that Schembechler and Monaghan had reached an oral agreement. The two settled the dispute and that was the end of Schembechler's connection with Domino's.
However, one of Schembechler's sons does owns a few Domino's Pizza franchises in and around Lowell, Mass.
Amusingly enough, the current athletic director of the University of Michigan is Dave Brandon, former President and CEO of... Domino's Pizza. He took over Domino's when Monaghan sold the company in 1999 to Bain Capital for a billion dollars.
So, the legend is...
STATUS: True
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 22, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Well season over. I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game. But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.
I hope you're right.
He's not going anywhere. You watch.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 24, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 22, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Well season over. I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game. But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.
I hope you're right.
He's not going anywhere. You watch.
He won't be fired, and I really doubt that he'll resign.
Why isn't denard Robinson playing qb? Is his arm hurt, or does he suck?
UTSA has 120 on the ground and there's like 12 minutes left in the 2nd Q.
Quote from: CdmHe's not going anywhere. You watch.
It's possible.
E: Haha some Texas State dude just tried to hurdle someone and got annihilated by a UTSA linebacker while he was in the air. I wish that would happen more often.
24-14 UTSA at the half.
Quote from: sbr on November 24, 2012, 12:56:43 PM
Why isn't denard Robinson playing qb? Is his arm hurt, or does he suck?
His armed is messed up, nerve damage or something iirc.
I just saw that WSU won the Crapple Cup. :lol: stupid Huskies.
Why I'm I even watching this Iron Bowl? :(
:bleeding: All they need is a FG to pretty much put the game away, so what does UTSA do from the 9 yard line up by 14 with ~5:00 left? Trick play WR pass into the endzone that gets picked off. :bleeding:
Oregon looked good enough in the first half. Let's see if they can hold on.
:bleeding: And now they give up a TD after gifting Texas State with first downs all over the drive, including at least one on 4th and long. Only up by 7 now.
UTSA holds on to win by 7, and finishes 8-4. Not bad. They're above .500 all time (:P 12-10 over two years).
Quote from: sbr on November 24, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
I just saw that WSU won the Crapple Cup. :lol: stupid Huskies.
Thanks alot asshole.
Went to the game with my goddaughter. Since she is graduating next month, I thought it was appropriate she went one time with her godfather. Got to see Tressel and his '02 team honored and saw Michigan defeated.
It was a good day to be a dad. :)
Florida-Florida State was like a typical college date rape at one of those schools: starts off slowly, tentatively...and then, later in the evening, a furious flurry, followed by the victim looking around, disorientated and lost at the severity of the penetration.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 24, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
Got to see Tressel and his '02 team honored and saw Michigan defeated.
Interesting how he's the same asshole that put them in the boat they're in. But hey.
Quote from: dps on November 24, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 24, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 22, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Well season over. I expect Mack to step down at the end of the season, he has looked tired and beaten all year and sure as heck did in that post-game. But my track record as Nostradamus is not that great to be fair.
I hope you're right.
He's not going anywhere. You watch.
He won't be fired, and I really doubt that he'll resign.
Well yeah he certainly won't be fired. I mean if he comes back he comes back. I just do not understand why. His team is clearly not going anywhere, they do not play hard for him, and he looks so old and tired and miserable. The guy is going to be a god and a legend in this town forever, his wife has millions of dollars so he doesn't need the money. I just do not understand why he is doing this to himself. Masochism I guess.
Quote from: katmai on November 24, 2012, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 24, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
I just saw that WSU won the Crapple Cup. :lol: stupid Huskies.
Thanks alot asshole.
And they blew an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter?!? :lol:
Sorry.
Quote from: sbr on November 25, 2012, 01:04:11 AM
And they blew an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter?!? :lol:
Sorry.
It was disgusting to watch, they were called for like 18 penalties in the game.
Thankfully the Wyoming season is over. 4-8, with at least 4 of those losses coming in games where the QB was injured - each by less than a touchdown.
Oh well, we fans learned the Wyoming coach can drop F-Bombs, the Air Force Academy is a bunch of cheating bastards, and that having the last home game on November 24th in Laramie is a bad idea.
All things considered 4-8 is not that bad for a nuclear meltdown of a season. Is it true that BYU, Boise State, and San Diego State are all crawling back to the MWC?
I am disappointed by the lack of CdM gloating over the ND win. Maybe he is having a hard time with the realization he has to choose between them and his beloved SEC.
I'd gloat, but then I'd be punished. -_-
Quote from: Valmy on November 26, 2012, 12:38:24 AM
I am disappointed by the lack of CdM gloating over the ND win. Maybe he is having a hard time with the realization he has to choose between them and his beloved SEC.
I wish not to jinx things. I know you all know what happened, so there's no need. A Team of Destiny is still a Team of Destiny, fanbois or no.
And yes, Timmay, you would be punished. Actually, I'm thinking about banning you until January 8th anyway.
Quote from: Valmy on November 26, 2012, 12:38:24 AM
All things considered 4-8 is not that bad for a nuclear meltdown of a season. Is it true that BYU, Boise State, and San Diego State are all crawling back to the MWC?
The word is that if the Big East continues to bleed off teams then the reason SDSU and BSU went there (the TV contract) will be so small they have a contractual out. BYU is out in the cold for big time bowl games (the Mountain West is at least in the Gang of 5). Who knows, it all depends on if Louisville and UConn flee the Titanic.
I do kind of wonder now why Missouri was spurned, I can't imagine anyone knows exactly what Delany's thoughts are but it seems like with picking up Rutgers and Maryland he had the following thoughts:
1. Pickups in areas contiguous to where the Big 10 already is (I guess limiting Big 12 or Pac 12 style geographic spread)
2. Pickups in areas with massive media markets (Washington D.C., Baltimore, NYC)
3. Schools "academically respectable" (Both Rutgers and Maryland are, and are in the AAU which mattered pre-Nebraska and may still matter to the Big 10)
Missouri meets all of those criteria, so my only guess is that maybe Delany had changed his thinking from back then to now, and is now basically concerned only with getting a huge contract for the B1G Network (huge being substantially bigger than what it is now, and it is already without peer money wise.)
What's important is football quality apparently simply didn't matter, and from what I can tell it hasn't really mattered to most of the conferences in this latest era of conference restructuring. That's one reason I'm kinda put off by all of it, it's just about stacking "potential TV viewers" and it still seems like it's based on a ultimately dying cable TV business model in which providers like ESPN make money by charging a per-subscriber fee to the cable companies thus making money regardless of how many people actually watch...if cable TV goes the way of the dodo it'll be more ad hoc individual internet based subscriptions and ESPN will actually need to care more about a quality product I would think.
If the B1G wants to go to 16 I was thinking not really very many schools meet the three criteria that brought in Rutgers and Maryland. You have Pittsburgh, but the media market thing for Pittsburgh isn't as true as it is for Rutgers/Maryland (D.C. + Baltimore, and NYC way > than Pittsburgh) but everything else about the 'burgh fits. Boston College has the huge media market, but unlike Pitt doesn't have AAU membership (it isn't an academic "dog" though), and it would technically not be contiguous to extant B1G area.
UVA has the academics, but doesn't add any real media market of true value since you already get NoVa and D.C. with Maryland.
Syracuse has the academics (although resigned from AAU in 2011 after realizing they wouldn't meet the criteria any longer) and is geographically in a state bordering current B1G area, but it is upstate New York so no real media market.
I've heard some people speculate on schools like Duke and UNC, but I don't see either of them going to a conference they can't run, and the B1G for all its faults isn't willing to let anyone run the league as a fiefdom like the Carolina schools run ACC or Texas runs the Big XII. Plus, the geography doesn't make sense.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 26, 2012, 08:13:13 AM
I do kind of wonder now why Missouri was spurned, I can't imagine anyone knows exactly what Delany's thoughts are but it seems like with picking up Rutgers and Maryland he had the following thoughts:
1. Pickups in areas contiguous to where the Big 10 already is (I guess limiting Big 12 or Pac 12 style geographic spread)
2. Pickups in areas with massive media markets (Washington D.C., Baltimore, NYC)
3. Schools "academically respectable" (Both Rutgers and Maryland are, and are in the AAU which mattered pre-Nebraska and may still matter to the Big 10)
Missouri meets all of those criteria, so my only guess is that maybe Delany had changed his thinking from back then to now, and is now basically concerned only with getting a huge contract for the B1G Network (huge being substantially bigger than what it is now, and it is already without peer money wise.)
What's important is football quality apparently simply didn't matter, and from what I can tell it hasn't really mattered to most of the conferences in this latest era of conference restructuring. That's one reason I'm kinda put off by all of it, it's just about stacking "potential TV viewers" and it still seems like it's based on a ultimately dying cable TV business model in which providers like ESPN make money by charging a per-subscriber fee to the cable companies thus making money regardless of how many people actually watch...if cable TV goes the way of the dodo it'll be more ad hoc individual internet based subscriptions and ESPN will actually need to care more about a quality product I would think.
If the B1G wants to go to 16 I was thinking not really very many schools meet the three criteria that brought in Rutgers and Maryland. You have Pittsburgh, but the media market thing for Pittsburgh isn't as true as it is for Rutgers/Maryland (D.C. + Baltimore, and NYC way > than Pittsburgh) but everything else about the 'burgh fits. Boston College has the huge media market, but unlike Pitt doesn't have AAU membership (it isn't an academic "dog" though), and it would technically not be contiguous to extant B1G area.
UVA has the academics, but doesn't add any real media market of true value since you already get NoVa and D.C. with Maryland.
Syracuse has the academics (although resigned from AAU in 2011 after realizing they wouldn't meet the criteria any longer) and is geographically in a state bordering current B1G area, but it is upstate New York so no real media market.
I've heard some people speculate on schools like Duke and UNC, but I don't see either of them going to a conference they can't run, and the B1G for all its faults isn't willing to let anyone run the league as a fiefdom like the Carolina schools run ACC or Texas runs the Big XII. Plus, the geography doesn't make sense.
Army and Navy actually kind of make sense geographically now that Rutgers and Maryland are in, and they'd be a good fit in other ways as well (the service academies aren't AAU members, but are certainly considered academically respectable at least) but don't bring any media market that Rutgers and Maryland don't theoretically give the Big 10 anyway. Kansas is an AAU member, and would be contiguous, but as far as media markets go, it's the wrong Manhattan.
I suspect that the conference would love for the University of Chicago to start playing big-time football again and rejoin.
There's not just TV money in play at Maryland:
QuoteUnder Armour founder and Maryland alum Kevin Plank, for example, has downplayed his involvement in the decision and denied rumors that he will pay the university's $50 million exit fee from the ACC.
That's a lot more teams to wear Under Armour alt unis at a discount. Buy up Under Armour and dump your Adidas stock, kids.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 26, 2012, 08:53:38 AM
Buy up Under Armour and dump your Adidas stock, kids.
The way Adidas has been fucking up uniforms lately, everyone should have done this already. ;)
Anything would be better than those unis Ohio state wore Saturday. Yuk.
I dunno, sorta liked what they did with Nebraska and Wisconsin's. :blush:
The service academies have strong academics, but AAU kind of necessitates you being a traditional university and typically a large one. Membership is based on research spending, faculty membership in National Academies, faculty awards and published works. AAU membership largely corresponds to very good academic schools, but it's really more of a research-oriented membership and thus research criteria govern who gets in or not.
Very small liberal arts schools out there that I could name, with basically core undergraduate education on par with anyone in the country for example would never get in, because they lack major graduate level education and research and are simply too small to conduct research on a level required for membership. The service academies would fit into that mold as well.
Schools in Virginia like Washington & Lee and William & Mary are both pretty much as good an undergraduate education you could want if you're in the liberal arts, but would never be considered for a major research organization. Also think schools like Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin etc that are great undergraduate educations but wouldn't be AAU type schools either.
QuoteAs the Navy football team returned to the practice field Monday in preparation for its Dec. 8 game against rival Army, Coach Ken Niumatalolo and his players were thinking about one of their own fighting for his life in a Miami hospital after being seriously injured in a Thanksgiving night car accident.
Ralph Montalvo, a freshman who recently had made it from the scout team to the travel roster as the third-string quarterback, is listed in critical condition after being placed in a medically-induced coma at the Kendall Regional Medical Center, according to a spokesman for the hospital. Niumatalolo, who visited with Montalvo's family Saturday, said the player had a setback Monday.
"We just don't know ...we just pray for him, there's nothing we can do, the doctors there are doing the best they can. When I went on Saturday he was doing well, he took a slight turn [for the worse] today, didn't do as well today, we continue to wait for updates," Niumatalolo said.
Said offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Ivin Jasper, "We're struggling here. He's just a great kid and you hate to see something like that happen to good people. We're keeping him in our prayers. All of this happened for a reason, the good Lord has plans for him, he's going to pull through."
Dr. Jeff Fair, Navy's director of sports medicine, said doctors at the academy who have been in touch with the medical staff attending to Montalvo were told that an infection had caused an increase in the player's blood pressure.
"I think they're still pretty guarded, I think they just have to wait to see how he does, I don't know if they know how long they're going to have to keep this induced coma up, " Fair said. "He's going to be in the hospital quite awhile, I know that."
A spokesman for the Pinewood, Fla., police department said Monday that the investigation into the accident was ongoing and could not comment about it. According to Florida law, a police report is not made public for the first 60 days after an incident occurs.
Niumatalolo said he has been told by family members that Montalvo and a friend went to get something to eat after his flight home Thursday was delayed. The friend, who was driving, turned one street too soon, thinking he was on a main thoroughfare. Instead, he drove his car into a house at the end of a dark, fog-shrouded street. Niumatalolo said he heard Montalvo's friend was also in the hospital in a coma.
Junior nose guard Travis Bridges, who played against Montalvo in high school, learned of the accident in a text from one of Navy's assistant coaches and went to the hospital from his home in Hollywood, Fla., on Friday.
"It was kind of like a flashback, because I had a friend who passed away from a car accident," said Bridges, one of a handful of Navy players in the area who went to the hospital. "Just seeing him in the bed, it was pretty hard seeing him like that."
Sophomore slotback Ryan Williams-Jenkins, who was in Fort Lauderdale for the break visiting his father, said that several members of the team held a prayer vigil for Montalvo when they returned to the academy Sunday.
"His mom and dad said, 'Just pray.' They're real spiritual," Williams-Jenkins said Monday. "They said we should keep him in our prayers and stay positive. They said they don't want this to be a distraction because Rafi wanted to be out here more than anything. They said 'Win for Rafi, do this for Rafi.' "
The uniform Montalvo would have worn for the Army game in Philadelphia has been sent to the player's family.
Ellis Johnson gets a $2.1 million buyout for setting epic loss record at USM. 0-12, for $750,000 this year, plus the buyout.
That man is a genius. He will never have to work again. Which is good, because he will never work again.
Tulane and ECU to the Big East! :lol:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 27, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
Tulane and ECU to the Big East! :lol:
ECU is a move the league should have made ages ago. Tulane is a joke.
Quote from: dps on November 27, 2012, 06:38:13 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 27, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
Tulane and ECU to the Big East! :lol:
ECU is a move the league should have made ages ago. Tulane is a joke.
Yep. Meanwhile Cincinnati is clawing at the ACC's front door, begging to be let in.
The Big East is now C-USA.
Quote from: PDH on November 27, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
The Big East is now C-USA.
And the ACC is becoming the Big East. My Virginia Tech buddy is about to have a stroke over the whole thing.
I hope Pitt eventually gets screwed over somehow. Fuck you Mark May.
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 27, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
The Big East is now C-USA.
And the ACC is becoming the Big East. My Virginia Tech buddy is about to have a stroke over the whole thing.
And Boise is left holding a small Big-10 banner and crying out "But we joined an AQ conference!"
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 27, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
The Big East is now C-USA.
And the ACC is becoming the Big East. My Virginia Tech buddy is about to have a stroke over the whole thing.
VT is probably gonna end up in the SEC.
The Big 12 better get those ACC refugees. Everybody seems to be going to 16 why not join the club?
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
The Big 12 better get those ACC refugees. Everybody seems to be going to 16 why not join the club?
Big 12s last joinee will be the Might Pokes from Wyoming.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 27, 2012, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 27, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
The Big East is now C-USA.
And the ACC is becoming the Big East. My Virginia Tech buddy is about to have a stroke over the whole thing.
VT is probably gonna end up in the SEC.
I believe he has an altar with a bunch of candles lit and is praying for that to come true.
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
The Big 12 better get those ACC refugees. Everybody seems to be going to 16 why not join the club?
The SEC is almost full and there are seven southern football programs of worth left.
VT, NC State, Florida State, Clemson, Miami, Georgia Tech and Louisville.
The SEC will get whichever two it wants (probably VT and NC State) and the Big 12 the other 5. It can then pick Pitt or Cincinnati for the 16th.
You morons know it's more likely the Big east loses teams then ACC ones leaving?
Quote from: katmai on November 27, 2012, 11:51:56 PM
You morons know it's more likely the Big east loses teams then ACC ones leaving?
I don't know shit.
But last I checked they already lost Maryland.
Quote from: Valmy on November 28, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on November 27, 2012, 11:51:56 PM
You morons know it's more likely the Big east loses teams then ACC ones leaving?
I don't know shit.
But last I checked they already lost Maryland.
They are more stable then the Big 12 :contract:
Quote from: Valmy on November 28, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on November 27, 2012, 11:51:56 PM
You morons know it's more likely the Big east loses teams then ACC ones leaving?
I don't know shit.
But last I checked they already lost Maryland.
But seriously Cincinnati, UConn and Louisville are all vying for invites to the ACC.
Quote from: katmai on November 28, 2012, 12:02:49 AM
They are more stable then the Big 12 :contract:
We'll see.
Quote from: katmai on November 28, 2012, 12:03:27 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 28, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on November 27, 2012, 11:51:56 PM
You morons know it's more likely the Big east loses teams then ACC ones leaving?
I don't know shit.
But last I checked they already lost Maryland.
But seriously Cincinnati, UConn and Louisville are all vying for invites to the ACC.
If Maryland can get the $50 million penalty cut down to something more reasonable than Florida State and Clemson will immediately defect.
All the Kimchi has rotted your brain.
Gruden to coach Tennessee and get an ownership stake in the Browns?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/28/report-gruden-to-get-browns-ownership-stake-in-offer-to-coach-vols/related/
Quote from: derspiess on November 27, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 27, 2012, 09:11:36 PM
VT is probably gonna end up in the SEC.
I believe he has an altar with a bunch of candles lit and is praying for that to come true.[/quote]
Good, then I will enjoy watching them get pasted much more often. Beamer ball. Pfft.
Quote from: Valmy on November 28, 2012, 12:42:50 AM
Quote from: katmai on November 28, 2012, 12:02:49 AM
They are more stable then the Big 12 :contract:
We'll see.
I've said it before, but I'll say it again--college football conferences with more than 12 members don't make sense. All the conferences that have grown past that are going to be unstable IMO.
Whatever happens, I hope Pitt gets screwed.
Why is Tim here stupiding up this thread?
Quote from: PDH on November 28, 2012, 08:22:01 AM
Why is Tim here stupiding up this thread?
It's what he does.
Louisville replacing Maryland in the ACC.
Quote from: katmai on November 28, 2012, 04:00:38 PM
Louisville replacing Maryland in the ACC.
So they'll still have Seedy representation in the conference. Pretty similar programs in a lot of ways. Louisville is an especially good fit for basketball.
Poor Cincinnati is stuck in
C-USA Big East :( Hope the Big 12 finds it in their heart to let them in.
Not exactly a big deal, but C-USA just added FAU and Middle Tennessee from the Sun Belt.
Quote from: derspiess on November 28, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 28, 2012, 04:00:38 PM
Louisville replacing Maryland in the ACC.
So they'll still have Seedy representation in the conference. Pretty similar programs in a lot of ways. Louisville is an especially good fit for basketball.
:D Louisville. :wub:
Quote from: dps on November 28, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
Not exactly a big deal, but C-USA just added FAU and Middle Tennessee from the Sun Belt.
I wonder if Idaho and New Mexico State will finally have a place to go in the Belt now.
Here Seedy I thought you might appreciate this:
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If Georgia wins imagine that is a G there.
:lol:
That just made my desktop.
Sports Illustrated did a mock selection committee who tried to pick which 4 teams would be in the playoff if that system was in place this year. I haven't read the whole thing, but ave read and heard excerpts, it is pretty interesting. This is page one of three of the article.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/11/29/college-football-playoff-mock-selection-committee/index.html?sct=cf_t11_a0
Mock selection committee: How a four-team playoff would look now
QuoteDuring his 32 years in college athletics, Jim Livengood has hired and fired coaches, endured an NCAA investigation and served as chairman of the NCAA men's basketball selection committee. On Nov. 26, Sports Illustrated gathered Livengood, now UNLV's athletic director, and 10 of his colleagues to simulate the process that will select participants for the first four-team college football playoff following the 2014 season. Using this season's results, the committee selected a mock playoff field for the 2012 postseason.
By the end of the 138-minute conference call, Livengood and the other athletic directors realized the myriad challenges that the selection process will present; many concluded that it will be more difficult than selecting 37 at-large teams in basketball. Among the biggest challenges: a finite number of teams that are difficult to compare; multi-million dollar stakes; lack of relative data; and potential conflicts of interest. "Wow, is this committee going to have pressure," Livengood said. "The thing that jumps out at me is that there are just four teams, it's not enough of a sample. I was not a proponent of going larger than four, and this changed my mind totally."
SI's mock selection committee exercise produced a simple conclusion: While the move to a four-team playoff has been largely praised, the resulting process may be more complicated and controversial than the current system.
Last summer, the conference commissioners who oversee college football's postseason reached a landmark agreement to do away with the contentious, 14-year-old BCS. They replaced it with a four-team playoff comprised of semifinals played at existing January bowl games and a standalone national championship game played at least a week later.
Just as notably, they also agreed to move away from the polls and computer ratings currently used to determine the nation's No. 1 and 2 teams in favor of a basketball-style selection committee comprised of college administrators. That committee will decide the fate of teams' national championship hopes as well as their share of an annual $610 million ESPN contract announced last week. "It will be one of the most prestigious assignments in sports, and one of the most scrutinized," Bill Hancock, executive director of the new postseason system, said this summer. "And the members will need to understand what they're getting into."
For a glimpse into the vexing challenges the committee will face, SI enlisted 11 athletic directors representing each FBS conference and the independents. (The lineup originally included four conference commissioners or executives, much like the basketball committee, but following a Nov. 12 BCS meeting in which our project was discussed, all reluctantly pulled out.) Former NCAA executive Greg Shaheen, who for the past 12 years served as the lead facilitator for the men's basketball selection committee, spearheaded the exercise for SI. He compiled detailed fact sheets on each team, established voting protocol and nimbly moderated the selection process.
While we entered the process curious to find out which teams would be selected, a fascinating psychological study unfolded. We saw how interpersonal dynamics affected the process and how committee members dealt with the unavoidable conflicts of interest that come with their jobs. Take realignment, for example. Remarkably, within 48 hours of our call, three of the 11 athletic directors -- Tom Jurich of Louisville, Chris Massaro of Middle Tennessee State and Terry Holland of East Carolina -- were part of a conference membership change. It underscored how intertwined the college sports world is and how many potential conflicts -- real or perceived -- could arise.
"You have to deal with what's in front of you, you have to deal with the facts," said Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, a mock committee member. "You can't let your emotions get in the way of the decision-making process because one team left your conference and went to another. It takes a strength of fortitude to do that."
The four-team field our committee selected will undoubtedly please SEC and Pac-12 fans and leave one Big 12 program particularly miffed, while the process offered a window into how college football could look in the future: more teams running up the score to impress the committee, more teams scheduling tougher games to improve their résumés and another layer of scrutiny added to a sport that's already under a microscope.
"It hits you in the face when you start looking at the last couple of spots and how many teams can make legitimate claims for consideration for the last two spots," said Mississippi State AD Scott Stricklin. "It's going to be a daunting task when the real committee gets together."
Here's how SI's mock committee went about selecting four teams for a hypothetical playoff to cap this season.
On a pair of Nov. 19 preparation calls, the group agreed to consider all teams in the BCS top 12, plus any remaining one-loss teams in the top 20. By Nov. 26, that list consisted of: 12-0 Notre Dame, 11-1 Alabama, 11-1 Georgia, 11-1 Florida, 11-1 Oregon, 10-1 Kansas State, 10-2 LSU, 10-2 Stanford, 10-2 Texas A&M, 10-2 South Carolina, 9-2 Oklahoma, 10-2 Nebraska and 11-1 Kent State. For the purposes of this exercise, the group was told to assume that the higher-ranked team would win this weekend's conference championship games. (Most notably, that meant assuming Alabama will hand Georgia a second loss.)
Committee members were given materials on each team several days in advance. To begin the call, Shaheen asked each member to submit his top four teams (in no order), which would become the first four discussed. The teams they chose -- Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia and Florida -- mirrored the current BCS top four. Oregon, LSU and Kansas State also received votes.
Shaheen then opened the floor for discussion and the result was ... silence. No one dared to speak first. "That's typical," said Shaheen, who observed 12 NCAA tourney selections. "That's a very human thing. It's not like all of us went to the party and were immediately the life of the party."
Per committee policy, Stricklin (SEC) and Navy's Chet Gladchuk (independents) were prohibited from discussing their conference's teams, while Smith, a Notre Dame alum and former assistant coach, recused himself. Finally, Holland spoke up on behalf of a candidate from the SEC -- though interestingly, not one of the teams playing at the Georgia Dome this Saturday.
"I like Florida," Holland said. "They had four wins -- until Florida State moved down to No. 13 [last weekend] -- against the field that was under consideration, and their one loss was to a very good Georgia team, 17-9. They're very good defensively, obviously. I kind of like them even ahead of Alabama."
"Terry, I agree," said Livengood, "but it's really hard when each team had [one] loss and they did meet head-to-head, even though it was such a close game."
"I do understand that," replied Holland, "but again they [the Gators] did play a large number of teams in that field, and they were successful except in the game against Georgia. ... It's so close."
For the group's first ballot, the two teams that received the most votes would become the top two seeds in the bracket, while the other two would be held back for further consideration. "We only put two teams in at a time," said Shaheen, "because you have to have absolute confidence you're getting them as close to each other as possible."
Once we get to four super-conferences it'll be a de facto 8 teams, via the conference championships.
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Disgusting.
Shoulda been Art Schlichter's.
Turned the game on just in time to see that Alabama TD. Nice play.
SEC Championship game was a great game.
Should've spiked the ball and got their heads on straight.
Mack Browns total conference losses 1998 - 2009: 16
2010, 2011, and 2012: 15
Doh! Might be time to hang it up Mack.
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2012, 12:58:56 AM
Mack Browns total conference losses 1998 - 2009: 16
2010, 2011, and 2012: 15
Doh! Might be time to hang it up Mack.
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Reportedly, South Florida is firing Skip Holtz. Hmm, maybe he should have stayed at ECU.
You know, if you're an AD, and you give your head football coach a contract extention after he takes you to a bowl in his first year but then goes 5-7 in his second year, and then you have to fire him and buy out his contract after he goes 3-9 in his third year, there's a good chance you deserve to lose your job, too.
In one of the worst kept secrets ever, the Ducks are going to the Fiesta Bowl to finally get that match-up against K-State.
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
Quote from: dps on December 02, 2012, 03:41:26 PM
You know, if you're an AD, and you give your head football coach a contract extention after he takes you to a bowl in his first year but then goes 5-7 in his second year, and then you have to fire him and buy out his contract after he goes 3-9 in his third year, there's a good chance you deserve to lose your job, too.
Agreed.
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
Was that fucking hilarious or what
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
Best news of the day.
UDub is going to Vegas to face Boise St....the team they start next season opening the newly renovated Husky stadium. :lol:
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2012, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
UDub is going to Vegas to face Boise St....the team they start next season opening the newly renovated Husky stadium. :lol:
I'll take the smurf-turf and the points please.
The game is in Vegas you illiterate Oregonian...wait that is an oxymoron.
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2012, 08:41:04 PM
The game is in Vegas you illiterate Oregonian...wait that is an oxymoron.
They could play it in Sarkisian's back yard and Boise State would still win by double digits.
Since it is a road game, probably right, if at home well then I'd favor Huskies who you know beat Stanford unlike some team :whistle:
Very true. Though I would be more concerned about not blowing an 18 point lead against Wazzu, rather than what happened against Stanford.
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:48:14 PM
Very true. Though I would be more concerned about not blowing an 18 point lead against Wazzu, rather than what happened against Stanford.
Like i said, that was road game where they were horrible, i mean absolutely stunk up the place.
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
Heh-heh. It's a lose-lose for the ACC. There'll be no glory for Florida State beating Nothern Illinois, but deep shame if the Seminoles lose.
Actually, the Rose Bowl is kind of a lose-lose for the PAC-12, too, since the Big 10 has a champion that's 8-5.
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Seriously??? Sun (Dec. 31, El Paso, Texas): USC (7-5) vs. Georgia Tech(6-7)
Yeah well it is the ACC. That 6-6 team came very close to being their champion for Godsake.
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
And the Sooners get bent over the couch and taken from behind by the Northern Illinois Huskies. :D
It sets up the Satan Bowl for a Texas fan. We can only hope for a Sodom and Gomorrah type disaster occuring on Jerry World during that game.
Texas gets Oregon State in the Alamo Bowl. Texas has always won at the Alamo right?
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 01:09:24 AM
Yeah well it is the ACC. That 6-6 team came very close to being their champion for Godsake.
I really have hard time defendingthe 6-6 teams going to bowl games, but a sub .500 team? i mean sure if this was basketball and they had won the conference tourny, but this nonsense.
Quote from: katmai on December 03, 2012, 01:58:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 01:09:24 AM
Yeah well it is the ACC. That 6-6 team came very close to being their champion for Godsake.
I really have hard time defendingthe 6-6 teams going to bowl games, but a sub .500 team? i mean sure if this was basketball and they had won the conference tourny, but this nonsense.
They had to get an exemption. The reasoning was something like this--the only reason that they were in the ACC title game was because Miami self-imposed a postseason ban. Had Miami not done so, the Hurricanes would have been the ones playing Florida State in the title game, not Georgia Tech, and Tech would have been in a bowl game at 6-6. If you didn't give Georgia Tech the exemption, in effect you would be penalizing them for Miami's actions. Same thing basically happened last year with UCLA--they got an exemption after losing the PAC-12 title game, which they wouldn't have been in in the first place if USC hadn't been banned from the postseason. I don't much like it, but I see the point.
In other bowl news, you guys heard about how La Tech's AD screwed them out of a bowl game? He turned down an invite to the Independence Bowl because he thought the team would get a bid to the Liberty Bowl. But when Northern Illinois got into a BCS game, it knocked Oklahoma down to the Liberty Bowl, and La Tech was left without a bowl game.
Good way to start your campaign to keep the head coach who got you to 9-3 from leaving for a more prestigious program, Mr. AD.
Yeah that was funny. WAC membership screwed them one final time on the way out. It was kind of an old school way to blow it though. Miscalculations like that used to be common around Bowl Time before conferences started negotiating these things.
I didn't know there was THAT many bowls. For example, the BBVA Compass bowl, why is two 6-6 teams playing in them?
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 03, 2012, 01:06:11 PM
I didn't know there was THAT many bowls. For example, the BBVA Compass bowl, why is two 6-6 teams playing in them?
Because those were the SEC and Big East teams available when that bowl made their selection. That particular bowl is pretty far down the list for both of those conferences, so you're going to get the ones that are just barely bowl eligible a lot of the time. If they didn't have enough eligible teams, you would have probably had a C-USA team with a much better record in there instead. Not necessarily a better team, but with a better record.
Yeah alot of Bowls have an agreement with the conferences to take a team from that league if available. So if there is a 6-6 team leftover that is who they are obligated to take.
How are Bowls administrated? I'm confuse by the BCS bowls vs the none BCS bowls.
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 03, 2012, 01:21:09 PM
How are Bowls administrated? I'm confuse by the BCS bowls vs the none BCS bowls.
They are independent actors. The BCS bowls are the traditionally elite bowls (minus the Cotton Bowl which got left out for various reasons) that formed an alliance back in the 90s with the TV networks to coordinate their games to ensure that #1 played #2 so we have a clear national champion. The non-BCS Bowls scramble to put on the best matchup they can for their sponsor, and in order to make sure they have a big school with lots of fans matching up they form alliances with the conferences giving them the #1 to #9 pick (or whatever) in that league. So if it comes to their choice and all they have is a 6-6 team that is what they are stuck with.
How is this going to work next year with the 4 team playoffs?
Man, NCAA football is hard.
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 03, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
How is this going to work next year with the 4 team playoffs?
Man, NCAA football is hard.
I think we still have one more year of the BCS before the playoff. The first season of the playoff is 2014 IIRC.
There is going to be a committee of some sort that will pick the four teams, like they do for the NCAA Basketball tournament. There are going to be some elite Bowls hosting the playoff games. The remaining Bowls will be continuing to make the best matchups they can.
They better not fuck with the Rose Bowl.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 03, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
They better not fuck with the Rose Bowl.
The Rose Bowl is going to be in better shape once the BCS ends I think. They will have the top ranked Pac 12 team versus the top ranked Big 10 team not in the playoff every year. No more stupid BCS rules. The Sugar Bowl is going to do the exact same thing for the SEC and Big 12.
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 03, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
They better not fuck with the Rose Bowl.
The Rose Bowl is going to be in better shape once the BCS ends I think. They will have the top ranked Pac 12 team versus the top ranked Big 10 team not in the playoff every year. No more stupid BCS rules. The Sugar Bowl is going to do the exact same thing for the SEC and Big 12.
Good. I've paid zero attention to the playoff crap.
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 03, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
They better not fuck with the Rose Bowl.
The Rose Bowl is going to be in better shape once the BCS ends I think. They will have the top ranked Pac 12 team versus the top ranked Big 10 team not in the playoff every year. No more stupid BCS rules. The Sugar Bowl is going to do the exact same thing for the SEC and Big 12.
Yeah, but that to work, they need for the Big 10 to have teams that A) don't suck, and B) aren't under a bowl ban. Even without the BCS, they'd still have been stuck with a 5-loss Wisconsin team this year.
BTW, the bad part of the La Tech situation is that they probably would have made for a fun bowl game--#1 in the nation in scoring offense, but #119 in scoring defense. Sounds like they ought to be in the Big 12 or something.
Quote from: dps on December 03, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Yeah, but that to work, they need for the Big 10 to have teams that A) don't suck, and B) aren't under a bowl ban. Even without the BCS, they'd still have been stuck with a 5-loss Wisconsin team this year.
That is not a requirement. The Rose Bowl doesn't care about having a good matchup or deserving teams just so long as it is Big 10 versus Pac 12.
QuoteBTW, the bad part of the La Tech situation is that they probably would have made for a fun bowl game--#1 in the nation in scoring offense, but #119 in scoring defense. Sounds like they ought to be in the Big 12 or something.
Dang you are right! Maybe they should get an invite :hmm:
Quote from: Valmy on December 04, 2012, 12:47:17 AM
Quote from: dps on December 03, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Yeah, but that to work, they need for the Big 10 to have teams that A) don't suck, and B) aren't under a bowl ban. Even without the BCS, they'd still have been stuck with a 5-loss Wisconsin team this year.
That is not a requirement. The Rose Bowl doesn't care about having a good matchup or deserving teams just so long as it is Big 10 versus Pac 12.
I'm not sure how that leaves them in better shape, then. Yes, the guys who run the Rose Bowl want to match up a Big 10 team against a PAC 12 team, but getting what you want doesn't always leave you in better shape. The TV audience in general is more interested in seeing a good matchup, I'd think.
I'd be interested to see a comparison in tv ratings between traditional and non-traditional rose bowl games. If anyone is bored at work and wants to work the Google machine.
Quote from: dps on December 03, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Yeah, but that to work, they need for the Big 10 to have teams that A) don't suck, and B) aren't under a bowl ban. Even without the BCS, they'd still have been stuck with a 5-loss Wisconsin team this year.
BTW, the bad part of the La Tech situation is that they probably would have made for a fun bowl game--#1 in the nation in scoring offense, but #119 in scoring defense. Sounds like they ought to be in the Big 12 or something.
They'd have had two undefeated teams this year if not for the ban. PSU may have a couple more left, but OSU's ban was only for this season. It won't affect the playoff in the future. Unless they keep getting free tats and selling rings to pay momma's rent.
Not gonna be as easy in Arkansas as Wisconsin to win the league. We'll really get to see how good a coach he is.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/04/reports-arkansas-hires-bret-bielema/related/
Whoa. Downgrade. Should have stayed where he was.
Big 10 isn't stable.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 05, 2012, 03:38:32 AM
Whoa. Downgrade. Should have stayed where he was.
SEC is just so much better than the Big 10 people just don't see it that way anymore. Even if Ohio St. hadn't been banned from postseason, would it have made a 4 team playoff? The Big 10 was so bad this year, it's not a sure a thing, even though they went 12-0.
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QuoteAs Bret Bielema heads for Arkansas, Big Ten's allure fades in shadow of SEC
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Bret Bielema grew up on an Illinois hog farm, rising when it was still dark to help feed and care for 2,500-plus animals. Then he'd head to school. There were no frills in that life, just determination. Bielema only received Division III football interest, yet decided to walk on at Iowa, eventually working his way to a scholarship and eventually a team captaincy.
How Big Ten is this guy? He was born in Illini Hospital, has a Hawkeye tattoo and eventually became a young head coach, just 36, at Wisconsin – the handpicked successor of Barry Alvarez. He averaged 9.5 wins a year. He was the kind of guy who didn't just play and coach in the Big Ten but represents the Big Ten. He's burly, smart, funny and down-to-earth. He believes in power running, physical defenses and big meals. He was successful in maximizing what he had.
He wasn't afraid to take shots at the SEC and to hold up the supposed ethics of the Big Ten. Yet he wasn't some elitist. He wore wind breakers in the dead heat of summer, dreaded when it got so cold he had to put on socks and looked like a guy who would be quite content knocking down something from G. Heileman, the old-school regional microbrew, if you will.
He won the Big Ten title in each of the past three years. And, sure, this time he was helped by Ohio State and Penn State being in NCAA trouble. Still, there he was Saturday night, with a five-loss team, hanging 70 points and humiliating Nebraska anyway.
The Big Ten isn't going to shut down because 42-year-old Bret Bielema decided Tuesday to head to Arkansas, head to the SEC, whose recruiting culture he once pretended to look down his nose at.
Wisconsin will find a new coach and continue on. The league still has good people and good programs. There's plenty of potential, plenty of momentum at some places. And, at least for national relevance, it can be thankful that Urban Meyer is at Ohio State, where the road to more undefeated seasons just became even easier.
But both the Badgers and the league were better with Bielema. He was supposed to be a Big Ten lifer, a quality coach at a quality program helping add depth to a league in desperate need of anything positive.
Instead he becomes a real-time, real-life example of the pecking order of college football.
"I was very surprised when Bret told me he was taking the offer from Arkansas," Alvarez said Tuesday, which pretty much summed up the feelings of everyone. As sure as you can't imagine Steve Spurrier coaching in the North, you didn't envision Bielema heading South.
The Big Ten understands it isn't the hottest league, or the coolest league, or the best league anymore. It isn't unusual for the CBS broadcast of the SEC to beat Big Ten games in the ratings even in Midwestern markets. But the conference still has a ton to offer, including good football.
So what does it say that suddenly the Big Ten isn't even good enough for Bielema, the kind of Midwestern guy who appreciates the beauty of grey skis and blue collars?
There's hardly any legitimate competition between the Big Ten and the SEC anymore. At least, not on the field. That's just reality. But the Big Ten wants to think it is closer than it is while clinging to the idea that it still has something over southern football, leaders and legends, that type of stuff.
Wisconsin is an incredible school. Madison is a top-line college town. Camp Randall is as rowdy and fun an environment as there is. Bielema was under no pressure, was well-paid and was winning comfortably and consistently
Yet it wasn't enough.
The Big Ten is on an epic run of bad breaks from tragic to comical, from the horrors of Jerry Sandusky, to the 12-0 Buckeyes being barred from the postseason, to endless non-conference humiliations, to a five-loss team in the Rose Bowl, to Jim Delany trading out the league's tradition for the "demographics" that two historically under-performing, debt-ridden football programs might – might – be able to provide.
Arkansas doesn't get to steal Wisconsin's coach. At least, that isn't how the old pecking order went. Bielema had the third-best job in the league, one that was going to get even easier based on expansion, where he was staring at a cake division with only Ohio State a worthy opponent.
Instead, he left for a region he's never recruited, for a cut-throat culture he's previously railed against, to take an Arkansas job that might be the fifth best in its division, one ruled by no less than Alabama and LSU.
The truth is, he has a better chance of winning it all in Fayetteville than Madison. And he'll win games. He's a good enough coach to win anywhere. And, really, how couldn't he go? There's better facilities, richer budgets, closer proximity to talent, the thrill of the big time, huge exposure, monster challenges, fresh rivals, and, of course, more money.
The truth is, Bielema must know if he fails on the big stage, he can always go back and find a big Ten program desperate to hire him.
This is the reality of college football right now. The Big Ten commissioner is obsessed with building a cable network. The SEC commissioner is determined to build the NFL Lite, where even the second- and third-tier programs are budding powerhouses.
The SEC had four job openings this year. It has already hired the champion of the Big Ten (Bielema) and Sun Belt (Gus Malzahn to Auburn) as well as the defensive coordinator from the ACC winner (Florida State's Mark Stoops to Kentucky). And it might get the coach of the Big East champ (Louisville's Charlie Strong is reportedly the top candidate at Tennessee).
Everything just gets bigger and bolder and more competitive down there. It's the greatest show on field turf and the appeal of it all is drawing in fans and television viewers and recruits and, well, even about the most Big Ten coach you could ever find.
Bret Bielema, raised on an Illinois hog farm is going to call the Hogs down South, suddenly too good for the league he was seemingly made to help lead until he became a legend.
Plus he got a 1.5 milling raise. Then the cost of living decrease in the move from Madison to fayetteville probably adds another 10-15%.
Quote from: sbr on December 05, 2012, 05:47:23 PM
Plus he got a 1.5 milling raise. Then the cost of living decrease in the move from Madison to fayetteville probably adds another 10-15%.
Yes. That's the big thing right there.
$4 million a year in fayetteville probably lets you live at a Donald trump-like level.
Yay! Meathead left!
Cincinnati coach Butch Jones is taking the Colorado job. Cincinnati just cannot keep a coach. Oh well, time to go mine the MAC again for another coach.
Leaving Cincy for Colorado? Hilarious.
Jones is still denying he is going to Colorado, FWIW.
Sonny Dykes is definitely going from Louisiana Tech to Berkeley to replace Tedford.
EDIT: Just what the Pac-12 needs, more offense.
Cal needed something. They were horrid in the 'shoe this year.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 05, 2012, 08:13:25 PM
Cal needed something. They were horrid in the 'shoe this year.
And they still gave the Buckeyes a game until late in the 4th quarter. The #1 B1G team could barely beat a terrible Pac-12 team in the 'shoe.
I quite remember them being quite sucky. Then again, the pain killers were quite groovy at the time.
Hell ohio state let Indiana stay in the game. They weren't that good either.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 05, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
I quite remember them being quite sucky. Then again, the pain killers were quite groovy at the time.
Cal was ahead in the 2nd half and it was tied with just a few minutes left. Cal blew a coverage and OSU hit a very long wide open bomb to go ahead. They may have had a defensive score to pull away late.
It would be nice if Cal gets decent again.
Quote from: PDH on December 05, 2012, 08:19:41 PM
It would be nice if Cal gets decent again.
I'm wanting the Bruins to be consistently good. And annoying Lane Kiffin every year.
Cal accepted me to go there as a legacy back in 1982, but I would have had to pay too much as an out of state. They are kind of my other school (in part because my Mom's family is from Berkeley and the first Cal grad in the family was in the 1800s).
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 05, 2012, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: PDH on December 05, 2012, 08:19:41 PM
It would be nice if Cal gets decent again.
I'm wanting the Bruins to be consistently good. And annoying Lane Kiffin every year.
UCLA are poseurs. They couldn't even choose a real name for their team without stealing from the real University in California.
Quote from: sbr on December 05, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 05, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
I quite remember them being quite sucky. Then again, the pain killers were quite groovy at the time.
Cal was ahead in the 2nd half and it was tied with just a few minutes left. Cal blew a coverage and OSU hit a very long wide open bomb to go ahead. They may have had a defensive score to pull away late.
Up by 1. Big whoop. Oregon sucks.
And I'm buzzed now. PAC 12 sucks. Arizona sucks. Mike leach for president.
Leach is a Wyoming boy :)
Quote from: PDH on December 05, 2012, 08:36:46 PM
Leach is a Wyoming boy :)
Anybody that annoyed Craig James is a hero to me. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 05, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
Anybody that annoyed Craig James is a hero to me. :)
Those dead hookers were cheering Leach on from beyond the grave.
Haha Strong denied Tennessee. Big East > Big 10.
Hell, c-USA >b10 this year. Michigan state turned into a rotten pumpkin, purdue is stuck in mediocre, Illinois was so goddamn awful it made me ill watching the illbuck game and Minnesota's coach has a seizure a game. This isn't counting pedo state.
And some ohio state fans are forming this weird 'we should be AP national champions' dreamland that I just don't understand.
See, that is why you should be a fan of a mediocre school in a little conference. Far less drama - just a coach who drops 30 f-bombs in a televized video
Brutus would kick my ass.
Quote from: sbr on December 05, 2012, 08:09:38 PM
Jones is still denying he is going to Colorado, FWIW.
At this point, I'm not sure why anyone would leave a HC job at any FBS school to take the Colorado position. They may be the worst program in any of the power conferences, and they've just shown that they're not going to give you much time to turn things around.
In other news, Barry Alvarez is going to coach Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Wonder if he'll pull a Snyder and give himself the job back full-time?
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Army unveils WWII-inspired uniforms for the Army-Navy game
One of the best parts about the Army-Navy game — other than the amazing pageantry on the field — is the specially designed uniforms both teams get to wear.
Navy announced its uniforms a couple weeks ago and Tuesday, Army unveiled its new kit for the final game of the regular season.
According to a release by West Point, the uniform design, which is Army's classic black and gold, pays tribute to 1944, which included the first of Army's three consecutive national championships and the World War II victory at the Battle of the Bulge.
The uniforms include a historical map imprinted inside the numbers, on the helmet stripe, on the gloves, the sleeves and on the inside of the shoes. The helmet also features a small black spade on the side to honor the 101st Airborne Division, which fought in the Battle of the Bulge.
Army's uniforms are usually pretty sharp for this game, but these are by far the best we've seen in quite some time. I mean, using the map as part of the uniform is genius. It looks really cool. As a big history/war buff, I'm a fan of Nike's design here. And if you're a big fan, you can order all of Army's gear from the team's website.
In the battle of the uniforms, Army wins.
Pics here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/army-unviels-wwii-inspired-uniforms-army-navy-game-183816157--ncaaf.html
Fuck Navy. :glare:
You know, one of the things I like least about college football is coaches leaving their teams for better jobs before the bowl season.
Quote from: dps on December 07, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
You know, one of the things I like least about college football is coaches leaving their teams for better jobs before the bowl season.
It's even better when they decide to leave immediately after recruiting season. See: Satan, Nick.
Jones from Cincy rebuked Colorado, but then took Tennessee
Colorado sucks so bad.
Quote from: katmai on December 07, 2012, 09:04:12 AM
Jones from Cincy rebuked Colorado, but then took Tennessee
Was surprised he turned down that money from Colorado but it makes sense now.
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That was an absolutely crushing end.
I always root Navy in these games, but that was just depressing. Game like that shouldn't have gone down on a fumble. And it would've been nice to see Army break the streak and bring some balance back to the series.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 08, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
And it would've been nice to see Army break the streak and bring some balance back to the series.
Nah. I'm good with this.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 08, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
That was an absolutely crushing end.
I always root Navy in these games, but that was just depressing. Game like that shouldn't have gone down on a fumble. And it would've been nice to see Army break the streak and bring some balance back to the series.
Or, as column I read recently put it, paraphrased, it's ok for civilians to root for either Army or Navy in this game, but rooting against either is poor form.
What a bizarre simile.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/10/saban-slides-onto-the-nfl-coaching-radar-again/
QuoteSaban slides onto the NFL coaching radar, again
Posted by Mike Florio on December 10, 2012, 4:53 AM EST
Saban Reuters
In December 2006, then-Dolphins coach Nick Saban was spending plenty of time trying to convince plenty of folks that he wouldn't be the next coach at Alabama.
Six years later, as he prepares to pursue yet another NCAA championship as the Alabama coach, it's inevitable that he'll be linked to jobs at the next level — especially with so many jobs possibly becoming available after the 2012 season ends.
Earlier this year, Saban's name surfaced (primarily via speculation) as a potential candidate to coach the Browns. Over the weekend, Greg Bedard of the Boston Globe provided a slightly meatier nugget.
Bedard writes that Saban has "let it be known" that, if he returns to the NFL, he'd want to work with former Browns-turned-Ravens colleague Mike Lombardi, whose name has surfaced as a potential candidate to succeed Tom Heckert as G.M. of the Browns franchise that returned to the NFL in 1999.
There's no indication that Saban, who is now in his 60s even if he doesn't look it, would try to return to the NFL. But with a growing war chest of crystal footballs and a two-year run of mediocrity in Miami that surely gnaws at him like a Little Debbie oatmeal creme pie, Saban could decide that he wants to swing the bat one more time in the big leagues.
That said, he wasn't happy as an NFL head coach, poking around for possibilities back in the college ranks after only one year of running the Dolphins. We'd heard in October of 2006 that Saban wanted to go back to the college game, and the rumors persisted until they culminated in the one rumor he consistently denied.
"I'm not going to be the Alabama coach," he eventually insisted.
And then, out of the blue, he was.
His return to the NFL, if and when he chooses to do it, could come out of the blue in similar fashion. And it could, in theory, put him back in orange and brown.
If nothing else, the possibility of landing Saban would force the folks in the Cleveland media who are grumbling about the possible return of Lombardi reconsider their position.
Hey MBM: Arkansas State hires Texas OC Brian Harsin: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8738781/sources-texas-longhorns-co-offensive-coordinator-bryan-harsin-takes-arkansas-state-red-wolves
QuoteTexas co-offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin will be named Arkansas State's new head coach, sources with knowledge of the deal told ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM's Ian Fitzsimmons.
Harsin takes over for Gus Malzahn, who's leaving Arkansas State for Auburn after one season. Malzahn led the Red Wolves to a 9-3 record and a Sun Belt Conference championship.
The 35-year-old Harsin was interviewed for the Red Wolves' position on Tuesday and will be officially introduced on Wednesday, The Dallas Morning News reported.
Harsin was hired by Texas coach Mack Brown out of Boise State in 2011 to handle the playcalling for the Longhorns.
Harsin replaced Greg Davis, who won a national championship with Texas in 2005 and played for another in 2009, but resigned after the Longhorns went 5-7 in 2010.
Harsin spent 10 seasons on the Boise State staff, his last five as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. He was a finalist for the 2009 Broyles Award given to the nation's top assistant coach.
Major Applewhite will now be sole OC. Interesting.
Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Major Applewhite
I always thought that was a fantastic name, like he was 19th century British explorer.
Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Hey MBM: Arkansas State hires Texas OC Brian Harsin: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8738781/sources-texas-longhorns-co-offensive-coordinator-bryan-harsin-takes-arkansas-state-red-wolves
QuoteTexas co-offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin will be named Arkansas State's new head coach, sources with knowledge of the deal told ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM's Ian Fitzsimmons.
Harsin takes over for Gus Malzahn, who's leaving Arkansas State for Auburn after one season. Malzahn led the Red Wolves to a 9-3 record and a Sun Belt Conference championship.
The 35-year-old Harsin was interviewed for the Red Wolves' position on Tuesday and will be officially introduced on Wednesday, The Dallas Morning News reported.
Harsin was hired by Texas coach Mack Brown out of Boise State in 2011 to handle the playcalling for the Longhorns.
Harsin replaced Greg Davis, who won a national championship with Texas in 2005 and played for another in 2009, but resigned after the Longhorns went 5-7 in 2010.
Harsin spent 10 seasons on the Boise State staff, his last five as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. He was a finalist for the 2009 Broyles Award given to the nation's top assistant coach.
Major Applewhite will now be sole OC. Interesting.
Mack will need another three years, I guess. I saw something on the shag saying whatshisname, the WRs coach, will be "Co-OC" with Major (although Applewhite will be the one with playcalling duties, like what Harsin did this year except when Mack obviously overrode him), and they'll be hiring a new RBs coach (Major will be QBs coach).
Some of the projections I am reading is that a new Big East Conference TV deal will give about $1.3 million per year to schools...that is less than the Mountain West gives schools.
It is wonderful, Boise is crying in their beer now. Tough luck, suckers.
Jesus H Christ, Arizona.
Yeah wtf Berkie.
It's those goddamn fruity ass red helmets and pants.
That team would feel much better about itself if it stayed in the Desert Swarm white helmets and pants. And if you feel better, you play better.
Yeah they remind me of the 'Cuse in these outfits.
Buh bye Big Least.
Boise State and San Diego State are still saying "but were PROMISED 10 million a year!"
Oh Em Eff Gee...that pump fake faux-screen-deep-bomb by Nevada...ouch, man. That's one play the Arizona defense isn't going to want to see film of.
Quote from: PDH on December 15, 2012, 03:15:16 PM
Boise State and San Diego State are still saying "but were PROMISED 10 million a year!"
cant blame them for not wanting to be in conference with Wyoming.
Quote from: katmai on December 15, 2012, 03:47:55 PM
cant blame them for not wanting to be in conference with Wyoming.
True, Wyoming adds a suckiness to everything they are a part of, but sometimes the sinking ship is better than the lifeboats.
You can all go and fuck yourselves. The Cats will take both of their completely undeserved wins yesterday and thank you very much.
I fell asleep in the 2nd half, was so pissed I missed the end.
:lol: ESPN sucks. In promo for the Las Vegas Bowl between Boise St and UW they were showing highlights of the two teams.
Except instead of Huskies they had clips of Wazzu.
Oh wow, I had forgotten about Mike Riley being the old SA Riders head coach way back in the day. Dude still has a house here, it seems.
The earlier interview (local news) with Mack....it was like...all coach speak. :lol: Riley's has more substance.
Quote from: katmai on December 18, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
:lol: ESPN sucks. In promo for the Las Vegas Bowl between Boise St and UW they were showing highlights of the two teams.
Except instead of Huskies they had clips of Wazzu.
That'll be one intern getting their ass kicked.
I haven't seen who they are, but the announcers for this Hawaii Bowl are a little weird.
Announcer: <something stupid>
Color commentary dude: "What are you talking about?"
Announcer: "AHAHAHAHAHA"
:lol:
Maybe the first guy's been hitting the egg nog early?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 24, 2012, 11:58:28 PM
Maybe the first guy's been hitting the egg nog early?
A possibility, certainly. I found out which one it was: Goofy white guy Connor Blackburn
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 24, 2012, 12:42:39 AM
Oh wow, I had forgotten about Mike Riley being the old SA Riders head coach way back in the day. Dude still has a house here, it seems.
The earlier interview (local news) with Mack....it was like...all coach speak. :lol: Riley's has more substance.
Do you know what team Mike Riley also coached?
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers. :cool:
I think he was the last coach to win a Grey Cup with the Bombers too. :(
^^ Yeah I saw that when I was looking at his Wikipedia page to see what he'd been up to the last ~20 years
Fire up Chips, btw. Some questionable playcalling by the WKU interim coach at the end of the game (down by 3, 4th and 2, less than a minute to go, inside FG range, stud RB on the team: pass to the end zone!) greatly contributed to the win, but a win is a win, right?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 26, 2012, 11:25:42 PM
Some questionable playcalling by the WKU interim coach at the end of the game
Just some? That was ugly.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 26, 2012, 11:39:56 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 26, 2012, 11:25:42 PM
Some questionable playcalling by the WKU interim coach at the end of the game
Just some? That was ugly.
Supposedly he asked the players what they wanted to do, and that right there is what they came up with. Democracy in action!
I haven't watched a bowl game yet.
I'm waiting for A&M and Oklahoma.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
I haven't watched a bowl game yet.
I'm waiting for A&M and Oklahoma.
Me either.
Pre-Christmas Bowl Games are an abomination, no matter who is playing.
Bowls with 2 directional schools and named after terrible pizza chains should be shut down by the government.
No way am I watching San Jose State play Bowling Green, no matter the situation.
I'm hoping the Duke/Cincy game is close in the second half. If so I'll watch that. I'll also watch UCLA and Baylor give the scoreboard operator carpel tunnel.
Soooooooooooo something happened on the River Walk (or, more specifically, in a hotel on the River Walk) involving Case McCoy, Jordan Hicks, and some unnamed female from Texas Tech. The cops are investigating, Hicks and McCoy have been suspended by the team and sent back to Austin.
Before the names were released someone on Twitter assumed they all had to be offensive players, they couldn't imagine a Texas defender assaulting anyone.
Allegedly.
Quote from: sbr on December 28, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
Before the names were released someone on Twitter assumed they all had to be offensive players, they couldn't imagine a Texas defender assaulting anyone.
Allegedly.
There was another one about if one was a D player, it was the first thing they'd hit all year. :D
Quote from: sbr on December 28, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
Before the names were released someone on Twitter assumed they all had to be offensive players, they couldn't imagine a Texas defender assaulting anyone.
lulz, hook 'em.
:bleeding: Va Tech Helmets.
Quote from: katmai on December 28, 2012, 05:40:16 PM
:bleeding: Va Tech Helmets.
Have you seen Oregon's Fiesta Bowl helmets
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Oh my.
I hadn't, but am not surprised by the garish display.
Rutgers unis make them look like the University of The Micronauts.
I don't remember Rutgers' defense being this fast. But they are flying to the ball.
Fuck the Hokies, and whatever that monochromatic turkey thing is on their helmets tonight.
Nice pick there for Rutgers. Followed by a not so nice run, but hey.
E: I just saw the closeup of the turkey or whatever on their helmets (just turned this on). That..........doesn't look so good.
Well that was quite an offensive series for Minnesota. :lmfao: I'm not sure I've ever seen 4th and 49 before. I wonder if the punt will make it past the sticks.
Jerry Kill looked like he was about to stroke out after the penalties on 2nd down.
E: The punt didn't make it. :lol:
Joey Galloway's turned out to be a pretty good color commentator for ESPN. Not bad, considering he's got an Ohio State education.
Whoa. That was a helluva stiffarm by that Rice RB.
LOL, looks liky Syracuse and the Mountaineers were mixing it up a little bit before the game. Hopefully it's not as chippy as last night's game with TT and Minnesota. :lol:
And congrats to Rice for their first bowl win in 50some years. JFK would be pleased. NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
LOL, looks liky Syracuse and the Mountaineers were mixing it up a little bit before the game. Hopefully it's not as chippy as last night's game with TT and Minnesota. :lol:
And congrats to Rice for their first bowl win in 50some years. JFK would be pleased. NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD
Rice won a bowl game like 4 years ago. They beat the dogshit out of someone in Houston, I think it was.
Meh, don't really pay attention to those unstable conferences anyway.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Meh, don't really pay attention to those unstable conferences anyway.
Probably shouldn't be babbling nonsense about their members then. :P
Just hope your boys can keep up with the Beavers. I grow tired of these lopsided bowl games this season.
Edit: ouch, what a shot on the Syracuse QB.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2012, 04:19:41 PM
Just hope your boys can keep up with the Beavers.
Doubtful.
Man WVU needs a D
Texas sucks.
Quote from: katmai on December 29, 2012, 08:32:43 PM
Texas sucks.
Yep, and its football team isn't that great either.
Quote from: katmai on December 29, 2012, 08:32:43 PM
Texas sucks.
Quote from: Peter WigginYep, and its football team isn't that great either.
Texas Fight, bitches.
Just want to point out that as far as I'm concerned, the remark about the football team is an afterthought and the main point stands. :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Just want to point out that as far as I'm concerned, the remark about the football team is an afterthought and the main point stands. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fxGNKxS8J0
Well, you two are more sedate and tolerable than I thought you would be after that game. :mellow:
I see the toads ended up losing. I can't stand Michigan State for some reason, so that sucks.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 01:11:37 AM
Well, you two are more sedate and tolerable than I thought you would be after that game. :mellow:
Which two?
Valmy's too drunk to post.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 01:11:37 AM
Well, you two are more sedate and tolerable than I thought you would be after that game. :mellow:
I was going nuts :lol:
But I was at a watch party so not posting on Languish.
West Virginia and TCU suck, boot them from the conference! The fact they beat Texas clearly signifies nothing these days. :P
Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
I was going nuts :lol:
But I was at a watch party so not posting on Languish.
I'm disappointed in you, Mr. Valmy. You have a phone. Never stop posting.
Really though, I thought the....eh...middle of the third Q or so was really interesting as far as the offensive playcalling goes. Something changed quite a bit, either Major stopped trying to be Harsin for one last game, or maybe Mack fucked off and let him do his job? Whatever it was, I liked it. Seems like they started playing more toward their strengths or something. I'd have to watch the game again, I guess, when I haven't been heavily drinking, to be sure.
E: Don't get me wrong, you could tell it wasn't Harsin calling plays the entire game, but it was just....different around that time. Maybe it was just that the players decided to give a shit.
Quote from: Valmy link=topic=7699.msg520598#msg520598 date=
But I was at a watch party so not posting on Languish.
Seiko or Omega?
Okay, that was awful.
Boise is staying in the MWC, according to Wetzel on my twitter news feed. Something about home games not being part of the league TV deal, a bonus for national TV appearances, and, worst of all, Boise will be able to continue to use the blue turf and wear their blue uniforms on it.
Fuck Boise. Fuck the MWC. Fuck Washington for losing to them.
E: Some CBS dude has a story up now:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21478786/report-boise-state-not-going-to-big-east-will-remain-in-mountain-west
They're going to have to pay the exit fee like TCU.
I'm glad to see Boise staying put in the MWC.
First off because fuck you Boise State.
Secondly at this point Chris Peterson has to realize he has hit the ceiling at Boise State. I think that there is a very good chance he takes a new job this off season, and with it a virtual certainty that Chip Kelly is in the NFL next year I think the Ducks would be able to get him. On one hand the continuity of handing the reins to OC Mark Helfrich would be nice, but I think a guy that has proven he can lead a big-time program is more important.
As for Kelly "pulling a Pete Carroll"TM (an expression I saw here recently but didn't respond to then), I'm not sure the comparison is quite right. If Kelly was really worried about NCAA sanctions and wanted to get out before they came down he would have taken the Tampa Bay job last January. Most people thought that the Ducks would be playing under sanctions this year, so the fact that Kelly came back anyway says a very, tiny bit about that theory.
Now, in what seems contradictory to what I just said, I saw something recently (probably on Twitter) that said that considering the timing of everything involved there is a pretty good chance that NCAA sanctions aren't handed down before the 2013 season starts. I would find that hard to believe, but considering how slow moving the NCAA is it wouldn't be shocking. There will be a hearing in front of the Infractions Committee in the spring, you never know how long that could take to be resolved.
Also in regards to "pulling a Carroll"TM it has never been a secret that Kelly wants to coach in the NFL and that Oregon was never considered a "forever job" to him. I don't think the NCAA investigation has increased the odds of Kelly leaving Oregon for the NFL this off season, as it is impossible to get above 100%. If you want to be a head coach in the NFL you have to strike while the iron is hot, especially as a college coach. You can't pass up too many opportunities because they will eventually stop coming.
I hope I am wrong about Kelly leaving. I would like this to be a "forever job" for him. There were some definite rough spots off the field in his 4 years here; the discipline problems (that have mostly stopped) and the NCAA investigation; but unless the NCAA hands down disproportionate sanctions the Ducks are in a much better place than they were when he took over.
On the field there isn't a whole lot to say that hasn't been said. 3 PAC-XX championships and 4 BCS games in 4 years. One of the most exciting and talked about programs in the country (for good and bad). Hopefully the Ducks can win the Fiesta Bowl on Kelly's way out, making him 2-2 in those games.
Taj Boyd is all balls, but he may not survive the game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 31, 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Fuck the MWC.
Hey now. Wyoming graciously gave Texas one of its wins this year on their march to glory.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 31, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
Taj Boyd is all balls, but he may not survive the game.
Just turned on the game and watched that last drive, and he's been taking some brutal shots.
Real shame they didn't make the conversion after that score.
Ha! Les Miles you are terrible!
I was disappointed not to hear the announcers use the phrase "cat fight".
Iowa State is now joining West Virginia and TCU on probation.
Clemson-LSU has my vote for Bowl of the Year so far. Goddamn, what a game.
I watched part of that while I was out last night. Really felt for that LSU DB who caught a shoulder pad square in the nutsack. :pinch:
Yeah, nothing was off limits contact-wise in that game last night. :lol:
OH THOSE TRICKY WOLVERINES
Capital One Citrus Bowl's looking a lot like a Big 12 game.
:punk:
Forget Jonny Football and Mantei Teo and the other scrub they invited to NYC for the Heisman. This is the best player in the country.
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Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
Forget Jonny Football and Mantei Teo and the other scrub they invited to NYC for the Heisman. This is the best player in the country.
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No shit. He was a total beast last year, and as much as I love my little stout Irish Samoan-That-Could, Clowney is hands down the best defensive game changer in the game.
Play of the game, considering the bullshit that had just occurred prior to that.
QuoteWithin seconds, word of the hit had traveled around the world on Twitter. Within minutes, people across the country stared at their phones or their tablets and watched Clowney splatter Smith on a continuous loop. A debate raged as to where the hit ranked in the pantheon of football collisions. The closest comparison was the montage of Forest Whitaker's Jefferson in Fast Times at Ridgemont High after his car was vandalized.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130101/south-carolina-michigan-outback-bowl/
Personally, I like the play-by-play from the MNF crew. Just listen to the beauty of it all.
http://youtu.be/gC44nP7ClxM
That play was the biggest punch-in-the-face Michigan has taken since Appalachian State in TEH GREATEST UPSET OF ALL TIME. :P
Tirico was whining like a bitch about the jacked up spot/measurement/call on the play before. That was a hilarious ending to that game. :lol: There were at least three defenders all around the WR, who was still wide open.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 01, 2013, 09:58:49 PM
Tirico was whining like a bitch about the jacked up spot/measurement/call on the play before.
Who the hell in the country wasn't? Even Tom Brady couldn't get that sort of call. And the smirking on the Michigan sideline said it all.
QuoteThat was a hilarious ending to that game. :lol: There were at least three defenders all around the WR, who was still wide open.
Just like the Ol' Ball Coach drew it up.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 10:05:58 PM
Who the hell in the country wasn't? Even Tom Brady couldn't get that sort of call. And the smirking on the Michigan sideline said it all.
Non bitches? Clowney sure as hell wasn't. He just went out and fixed the problem.
Wow. What a great hit. There's a guy who just upped his draft stock. I hope he knows what to do with forty million dollars.
Quote from: Neil on January 01, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
Wow. What a great hit. There's a guy who just upped his draft stock. I hope he knows what to do with forty million dollars.
He isn't getting drafted for another year. I don't know if he can really up it much more than it already is either. Dude could have probably been drafted out of high school.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 01, 2013, 10:23:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 10:05:58 PM
Who the hell in the country wasn't? Even Tom Brady couldn't get that sort of call. And the smirking on the Michigan sideline said it all.
Non bitches? Clowney sure as hell wasn't. He just went out and fixed the problem.
I will give credit to Smith for getting the fuck right up after getting stone-cold balled with the nation watching. Time to feel woozy later, on the sideline.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 10:32:30 PM
I will give credit to Smith for getting the fuck right up after getting stone-cold balled with the nation watching. Time to feel woozy later, on the sideline.
He was even trying to get the ball and everything, although he couldn't do a whole lot from his back and Clowney had already palmed it anyway.
E: One thing I thought was interesting was with that new helmet rule thing, apparently if he had somehow held onto the ball until after his helmet had come off, the play would have been dead right then, and the fumble wouldn't have occurred (technically).
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 01, 2013, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 01, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
Wow. What a great hit. There's a guy who just upped his draft stock. I hope he knows what to do with forty million dollars.
He isn't getting drafted for another year. I don't know if he can really up it much more than it already is either. Dude could have probably been drafted out of high school.
He was already a beast last season, and I honestly thought he outplayed Melvin Ingram last year; I'd love to see him with a Baltimore Ratbird on the side of his helmet, but he's not getting past the 2nd pick when he goes. Probably'll wind up in fucking Arizona or Jax or something.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 01, 2013, 10:36:08 PM
E: One thing I thought was interesting was with that new helmet rule thing, apparently if he had somehow held onto the ball until after his helmet had come off, the play would have been dead right then, and the fumble wouldn't have occurred (technically).
True; if he had the ball already tucked, and Clowney didn't arrive as early as he did, it would've been blown dead where he lost his helmet. Luckily for Clowney, he was in his grill before the hand off was even complete.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
Forget Jonny Football and Mantei Teo and the other scrub they invited to NYC for the Heisman. This is the best player in the country.
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No shit. He was a total beast last year, and as much as I love my little stout Irish Samoan-That-Could, Clowney is hands down the best defensive game changer in the game.
Play of the game, considering the bullshit that had just occurred prior to that.
QuoteWithin seconds, word of the hit had traveled around the world on Twitter. Within minutes, people across the country stared at their phones or their tablets and watched Clowney splatter Smith on a continuous loop. A debate raged as to where the hit ranked in the pantheon of football collisions. The closest comparison was the montage of Forest Whitaker's Jefferson in Fast Times at Ridgemont High after his car was vandalized.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130101/south-carolina-michigan-outback-bowl/
Personally, I like the play-by-play from the MNF crew. Just listen to the beauty of it all.
http://youtu.be/gC44nP7ClxM
That play was the biggest punch-in-the-face Michigan has taken since Appalachian State in TEH GREATEST UPSET OF ALL TIME. :P
Too bad #98 had to come in and fall on the ball. Clowney had it in one hand and was one his way up to his feet. Could you imagine a 35 yeard fumble return after that? :lol:
EDIT: Missed the point about the helmet by MBM.
Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 10:47:02 PM
Too bad #98 had to come in and fall on the ball. Clowney had it in one hand and was one his way up to his feet. Could you imagine a 35 yeard fumble return after that? :lol:
One-handed, no less. :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 01, 2013, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 01, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
Wow. What a great hit. There's a guy who just upped his draft stock. I hope he knows what to do with forty million dollars.
He isn't getting drafted for another year. I don't know if he can really up it much more than it already is either. Dude could have probably been drafted out of high school.
He was already a beast last season, and I honestly thought he outplayed Melvin Ingram last year; I'd love to see him with a Baltimore Ratbird on the side of his helmet, but he's not getting past the 2nd pick when he goes. Probably'll wind up in fucking Arizona or Jax or something.
Maybe they can start Tyrod and tank the season? Or maybe trade the Patriots a washing machine for Tim?
Stiff arming guys with the ball like in Blitz.
Quote from: Neil on January 01, 2013, 10:48:06 PM
Maybe they can start Tyrod and tank the season? Or maybe trade the Patriots a washing machine for Tim?
He'd look damn good in a Chiefs uni, plenty of history there at LB and DE he'd complement.
Hey NIU finally did something.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 01, 2013, 10:48:06 PM
Maybe they can start Tyrod and tank the season? Or maybe trade the Patriots a washing machine for Tim?
He'd look damn good in a Chiefs uni, plenty of history there at LB and DE he'd complement.
Hali, Houston and a guy who hits like that? Ouch.
Question: Is the SEC a bunch of bitches, or are they just not good at football?
Yes
Good for Louisville; they showed up and Florida didn't.
Don't think there's been a bigger win for Louisville ever.
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2013, 11:32:23 PM
Question: Is the SEC a bunch of bitches, or are they just not good at football?
Let's hope it carries over one more game. FUCK YOU TIM YOU TAINTY FUCK.
I am going to enjoy it so much when Tim's "ROLL TIDE!!!11" bullshit comes back and bites him in the ass. :menace:
:lol:
If the Irish lose I get blamed, but if they win I get no credit. It's just not fair! :mad:
How egotistical.
How about giving me no credit and no blame, as is logical.
You'll get credit for the 'Bama win, how about that.
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2013, 11:32:23 PM
Question: Is the SEC a bunch of bitches, or are they just not good at football?
They're sure not having a good bowl season. Yeah, Georgia and South Carolina got wins, but that was against Big 10 teams, and we know how they tank in bowl season, and Vandy won (good for them), but beating an ACC team is only impressive when it's in basketball.
The SEC is the worst conference in college football, except for all the others.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 05, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
The SEC is the worst conference in college football, except for all the others.
Yeah the Big 12 certainly had a nightmarish Bowl season. Thank goodness Baylor and Texas pulled out their games or it really would have been ugly. K-State and OU got humiliated and WV, TCU, and Iowa State all lost to inferior opponents.
If only the Big 12 could have great teams like Texas A&M in them!
Conference cheerleading is for suckers. Texas won. Fuck everyone else.
E:
QuoteIf only the Big 12 could have great teams like Texas A&M in them!
The Big 12 has Texas. A&M can go be 5th-ish somewhere else.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 06, 2013, 12:59:03 AM
If only the Big 12 could have great teams like Texas A&M in them!
Heh when they were in the Big 12 they choked in every single bowl. They were by far the worst performing and most underachieving team in the Big 12.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2013, 01:01:15 AM
Conference cheerleading is for suckers. Texas won. Fuck everyone else.
Yeah well it is what I do. I was raised as a SWC guy and have been a Big 12 guy ever since 1996.
They didn't have "Johnny Football" playing for them when they were in the Big 12.
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2013, 01:04:19 AM
Yeah well it is what I do. I was raised as a SWC guy and have been a Big 12 guy ever since 1996.
I was raised as a Longhorns fan. The SWC was something to win, not cheer for. Same thing with the Big 12.
E: Speaking of winning the SWC and A&M, this opportunity should be taken to say: Scoreboard forever there too.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 06, 2013, 01:05:07 AM
They didn't have "Johnny Football" playing for them when they were in the Big 12.
Yeah but they had plenty of really good QBs...granted not Heisman Trophy winning ones but they got QBs into the NFL.
Tannehill is doing pretty well. Whatever happened to Reggie McNeil?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
I was raised as a Longhorns fan. The SWC was something to win, not cheer for. Same thing with the Big 12.
E: Speaking of winning the SWC and A&M, this opportunity should be taken to say: Scoreboard forever there too.
Well to me it is both. But I regard conference rooting as just a form of entertainment, cheering for Texas is serious business.
Yeah Texas has lots of scorboard on A&M but it never really matters to them man. Even when Texas beating them 8 times in a row or whatever A&M fans would still gloat 't.u. sucks and so do u LOL'. The only school that is insufferable in victory and defeat. So glad Texas is taking a long break from playing them I do not miss it at all.
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2013, 01:14:09 AM
Well to me it is both. But I regard conference rooting as just a form of entertainment, cheering for Texas is serious business.
I cheer for teams I generally like over teams I generally don't like/hate. It doesn't matter what conference they play for, and I don't really buy into conference bowl records being an indication of a whole helluva lot.
E: As far as the Big 12 goes, I don't have anything against Iowa State, even though that's were the Rosencopter came from, or WVU. The Toads played Michigan State, who I loathe, so that sucked when they lost.
QuoteYeah Texas has lots of scorboard on A&M but it never really matters to them man. Even when Texas beating them 8 times in a row or whatever A&M fans would still gloat 't.u. sucks and so do u LOL'. The only school that is insufferable in victory and defeat. So glad Texas is taking a long break from playing them I do not miss it at all.
It's really refreshing. I'll say though, I was hoping they'd beat OU, because, well, it's OU, and fuck them forever.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2013, 01:19:55 AM
I cheer for teams I generally like over teams I generally don't like/hate. It doesn't matter what conference they play for, and I don't really buy into conference bowl records being an indication of a whole helluva lot.
I don't know man. The enormous prestige the Big 10 enjoyed for so long as the 'best conference' was a real pain for Texas as far as their players getting respect and rep for national awards and the Big 10 schools would swoop in and get great Texas players from time to time. And now it is even more so and on steroids with the ESPN hype machine behind the SEC. I think it does impact Texas. But to be fair to your point, if Texas wins all its games it really does not matter that much what conference Texas is in.
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2013, 01:29:22 AM
I don't know man. The enormous prestige the Big 10 enjoyed for so long as the 'best conference' was a real pain for Texas as far as their players getting respect and rep for national awards and the Big 10 schools would swoop in and get great Texas players from time to time. And now it is even more so and on steroids with the ESPN hype machine behind the SEC. I think it does impact Texas. But to be fair to your point, if Texas wins all its games it really does not matter that much what conference Texas is in.
There are plenty of recruits to go around, and IMO, Texas gets hurt more there by those promises/"decisions" that Mack makes ("You'll be the only RB we take in this class!" or similar. I think he may have stopped doing that though. I hope so.) than any sort of SEC hype machine out there. Why limit yourself? Awards, I'm not too concerned about. To each their own there. Anyhow. Aside from all that, it's not like ESPN is going to ignore Texas if they start winning. They threw down for a Longhorns TV channel, for gods sake. The Horns win, they hype the Horns, they can make some dollars.
Speaking of LHN, you see Cox and Charter have picked it up now?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2013, 03:26:30 AM
There are plenty of recruits to go around, and IMO, Texas gets hurt more there by those promises/"decisions" that Mack makes ("You'll be the only RB we take in this class!" or similar. I think he may have stopped doing that though. I hope so.) than any sort of SEC hype machine out there. Why limit yourself? Awards, I'm not too concerned about. To each their own there. Anyhow. Aside from all that, it's not like ESPN is going to ignore Texas if they start winning. They threw down for a Longhorns TV channel, for gods sake. The Horns win, they hype the Horns, they can make some dollars.
Speaking of LHN, you see Cox and Charter have picked it up now?
Yeah I saw that a bit ago. In about a decade Time Warner will finally get it!
I am not really sure how I limit myself by watching Big 12 games and being entertained by them. I am just saying the conference does make a bit of a difference, certainly Texas had problems related to the SWC's weakness in its death throes.
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2013, 03:35:18 AM
Yeah I saw that a bit ago. In about a decade Time Warner will finally get it!
Did they ever get the NFL Network? Time Warner seems like they can be incredibly stubborn.
QuoteI am not really sure how I limit myself by watching Big 12 games and being entertained by them. I am just saying the conference does make a bit of a difference, certainly Texas had problems related to the SWC's weakness in its death throes.
I don't see how you're limiting yourself either. Conference fanboys who do things like chant their conference name and hold up the records of teams other than their own as some sort of validation are suckers though. If you want to cheer for Big 12 teams for some reason, that's your thing. Please don't start a "Big 12! Big 12!" chant though unless it's at Kyle Field and you've gone back in time to Thanksgiving of last year. Then let me borrow your time machine.
As far as the SWC goes, I don't know what kind of problems it caused Texas at the end there, since the Horns weren't particularly good anyway for a lot of those years. 1995 though, when they beat TAMU in that last game for the SWC championship, they got into the Sugar Bowl and were a top 10 team, despite getting annihilated by the Domers and tying OU, where they got skullfucked by VaTech. vOv Doesn't seem like they got screwed or anything there. They just lost.
E: Damn, looking at wiki for those SWC years brought me to that 1990 season and the Cotton Bowl...thing....against Miami. They were #3 there. :bleeding: I didn't know Coker was the OU OC that year. Huh.
Has Chip Kelly actually accepted any NFL position? What's all this shit about the Browns being all excited about his offensive scheme and all that?
Nope, he had a long meeting with the Eagles today though.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 06, 2013, 04:32:16 AM
Nope, he had a long meeting with the Eagles today though.
Has he met with any other teams? I haven't been following this at all.
As far as I know he's only met with the Browns and the Eagles.
The Browns have now ruled him out and now it is apparently down to the Eagles or back to the Ducks. The feeling on Twitter is that there is a pretty good chance he ends up staying in Oregon which would likely end any NFL interest in the future. I hope that happens, but it would still surprise me.
Quote from: sbr on January 06, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
The Browns have now ruled him out and now it is apparently down to the Eagles or back to the Ducks. The feeling on Twitter is that there is a pretty good chance he ends up staying in Oregon which would likely end any NFL interest in the future. I hope that happens, but it would still surprise me.
I'll never understand why somebody who develops a successful program would give up the easy life of coaching on the collegiate level and go to that pressure cooker insanity of the NFL.
You're a god on earth on campus, the kids still listen to you as a coach, and you can go golfing after practice. In the NFL, you sleep in your office, just to be fired three seasons later.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 06, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 06, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
The Browns have now ruled him out and now it is apparently down to the Eagles or back to the Ducks. The feeling on Twitter is that there is a pretty good chance he ends up staying in Oregon which would likely end any NFL interest in the future. I hope that happens, but it would still surprise me.
I'll never understand why somebody who develops a successful program would give up the easy life of coaching on the collegiate level and go to that pressure cooker insanity of the NFL.
You're a god on earth on campus, the kids still listen to you as a coach, and you can go golfing after practice. In the NFL, you sleep in your office, just to be fired three seasons later.
I don't understand it either, but I am very much a Quality of Life
TM guy. I suppose anyone who is competitive and motivated enough to get to the point that they have the possibility of coaching in the NFL is a completely different beast that I can't relate to at all.
Quote from: sbr on January 06, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
I don't understand it either, but I am very much a Quality of LifeTM guy. I suppose anyone who is competitive and motivated enough to get to the point that they have the possibility of coaching in the NFL is a completely different beast that I can't relate to at all.
Yeah, and there's a substantial difference in the QoL between the two, and there are personality types drawn to them; that's why you see types like Spurrier and Holtz try the pro game and then get the fuck back out, the Bobby Bowdens not even bothering with it, and the Belichick types that stay straight with the pros. I mean, could you imagine Bill Belichick in some recruit's living room talking to parents? "Erhhhm, ermm, grumble mumble."
Twitterverse is blowing up with news Chip kelly is staying at Oregon.
http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index.php/duck-football/comments/chip-kelly-will-remain-at-oregon-after-multiple-nfl-interviews/
QuoteChip Kelly will remain Oregon's head coach after interviewing for at least three NFL jobs since Thursday's Fiesta Bowl.
UO sources confirmed the news, originally reported by Adam Schefter of ESPN.
Kelly interviewed with the Cleveland Browns and the Buffalo Bills on Friday, and was thought to be strongly considering an offer from the Browns that evening.
But he stuck by a commitment to speak with the Philadelphia Eagles on Saturday, and by this morning was said to be weighing whether to sign with the Eagles or return to Oregon.
Smart move.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 06, 2013, 11:47:29 PM
Smart move.
I agree it was the smart move, unexpected though. It sounds like he has pissed off a lot of NFL people and I'm not sure how many NCAA jobs are better than the Oregon job right now (potential sanctions not withstanding). He may actually be here for a long time.
I'm way too happy about this. :blush:
From Twiiter:
Quote@A_Jude: MT @mgwalks: Sal Paolantonio: "Kelly and agent overplayed their hand... irreparable damage to his (NFL) rep."
A_Jude is a Ducks beat writer for the Oregonian (Portland paper). mgwalks is some sort of blogger I had not heard of before tonight. You all know SalPal.
It's a sweet gig; I certainly wouldn't want to trade it in for the Browns or the Bills, or any other NFL soul-crushing woodchipper of a job.
He could probably be there as long as he wants, as long as he continues to get the kids he's getting in recruiting.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 06, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 06, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
The Browns have now ruled him out and now it is apparently down to the Eagles or back to the Ducks. The feeling on Twitter is that there is a pretty good chance he ends up staying in Oregon which would likely end any NFL interest in the future. I hope that happens, but it would still surprise me.
I'll never understand why somebody who develops a successful program would give up the easy life of coaching on the collegiate level and go to that pressure cooker insanity of the NFL.
You're a god on earth on campus, the kids still listen to you as a coach, and you can go golfing after practice. In the NFL, you sleep in your office, just to be fired three seasons later.
I can see 3 reasons why you might:
1) $$$$$ Cynics might see this as the most important, but I have some doubts. Even with the huge contracts some college coaches have, if it comes to straight-up bidding war, the pros can pay more.
2) The desire to prove yourself at the highest level of competition, even if the only person you have anything to prove to is yourself.
3) While the pressure of coaching in the NFL is greater than at even the most high-profile college program, the are some things that college coaches have to worry about that you don't in the pros--recruiting, boosters, etc. If you get fed up enough with any of those, I can see deciding to give the NFL a go.
I don't buy the money aspect for the most part. ANy NCAA coach that has NFL potential is making pretty good money and usually making it in a small college town. How many big-time college programs are in big cities?
$2.5 million in Eugene, or $3.4 in Fayetteville Arkansas is worth a whole hell of a lot more than it would be in Philly, New York or even Cleveland.
I'd say the pressure to perform in some high profile programs are as high, if not higher, than some pro teams, but the pressure compression ratio across the year probably isn't as bad.
And I'd argue that some college programs the pressure to succeed is greater than at some NFL teams, particularly when it comes to regions that don't have a traditional NFL fan base.
I mean, who do you think has more pressure on him as a head coach from all aspects, from the media to the general population: the Tennessee Titans, or the University of Tennessee? Who's got more public pressure on his ass from the fan base, Mack Brown or Gary Kubiak? Gene Stallings wins a national championship, yet couldn't get past Florida. Boosters are a bitch.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 06, 2013, 11:58:21 PM
It's a sweet gig; I certainly wouldn't want to trade it in for the Browns or the Bills, or any other NFL soul-crushing woodchipper of a job.
He could probably be there as long as he wants, as long as he continues to get the kids he's getting in recruiting.
The Eagles are a major job though.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 07, 2013, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 06, 2013, 11:58:21 PM
It's a sweet gig; I certainly wouldn't want to trade it in for the Browns or the Bills, or any other NFL soul-crushing woodchipper of a job.
He could probably be there as long as he wants, as long as he continues to get the kids he's getting in recruiting.
The Eagles are a major job though.
In what respect?
Major market, an organization with a consistent history of making the playoffs in the last two decades.
Bills and Browns don't compare.
Quote from: sbr on January 07, 2013, 12:50:46 AM
In what respect?
In the respect that Timmay thinks so.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 07, 2013, 12:52:28 AM
Major market, an organization with a consistent history of making the playoffs in the last two decades.
Bills and Browns don't compare.
One over-paid over-rated injury-prone QB, one underwheming unproven rookie QB, an atrocious OL, no pass rush, poor linebackers and a horrible fan base with completely unrealistic expectations.
There is a chance that Cleveland could be decent if their new owner learned anything in the time he was a minority owner in the Steelers. I don't care how much the Ravens crew here bashes them the Steelers have proven that they know how to run an NFL franchise and if Cleveland can take anything from that and get some good front office talent they could become pretty good eventually.
Quote from: sbr on January 07, 2013, 01:13:21 AM
I don't care how much the Ravens crew here bashes them the Steelers have proven that they know how to run an NFL franchise
Pretty sure nobody around here's bashed them on those grounds.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 04:00:40 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 07, 2013, 01:13:21 AM
I don't care how much the Ravens crew here bashes them the Steelers have proven that they know how to run an NFL franchise
Pretty sure nobody around here's bashed them on those grounds.
You have to be careful paying any compliments to the steelers around here.
I would think one of the major advantages of the pros is you don't have to schlep around the country recruiting.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 12:28:59 AM
I'd say the pressure to perform in some high profile programs are as high, if not higher, than some pro teams, but the pressure compression ratio across the year probably isn't as bad.
And in the NFL every game is a tough matchup. It is like Oregon vs. USC every week. In College, at least at a program like Oregon, you are going to be playing a much less talented team without much of a chance for about half your schedule.
If you can manage the BS of college, the NCAA rules and recruiting and moronic boosters all that garbage, then I think it is a far better job.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2013, 09:36:10 AM
I would think one of the major advantages of the pros is you don't have to schlep around the country recruiting.
Yep. The NFL has more intense pressures, but for only part of the year. College coaches don't really have an "off season." Plus, its gotta be hard on the ego to kiss the ass of so many teenagers.
Somehow, I don't see Steve Spurrier kissing a kid's ass. With his personality, I simply don't see how he succeeds. :lol:
With some of the head coaching legends, I bet hitting the parents was probably as big if not bigger than convincing the kid. Hell, if the old man worshipped Paterno growing up, I bet half the recruiting job was done by Dad the moment after Joe left.
I always read that Bobby Bowden was such a charmer with the parents, if he rolled up in your living room and set a spell with your Momma, you were going to FSU, by golly.
Great, the National Anthem is being sung by the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. GITTERDUN
I'll take Alabama and the 9.5 points.
Interesting start.
Gonna be a good game.
And, deep in the heart of the Confederacy, the hosing begins.
On the plus side, it's always convenient to wrap up these night bowl games early.
I'm reminded of Fred Thompson from Hunt for Red October:
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
:pinch:
A massacree.
Goddamn, so that's what starting QBs score these days.
Brent accidentally shot his wad into Kirk's water cup.
Looks like I need to prepare alternate programming. Saban is raping the Irish mascot.
Jeez.
Outcoached, outmuscled, outplayed. OutSataned.
I blame Tim.
And goodbye to this game.
I'm still trying to wrap the noodle around this concept:
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This Domer QB is all over the place. Has he been like this all night? I just got home.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:19:38 PM
I'm still trying to wrap the noodle around this concept:
She's betting on the future.
Roll tide on her tits.
I'd show her my spread offense.
I'd wreck her tight end.
And I'm spent.
How did he drop that?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 07, 2013, 09:22:42 PM
This Domer QB is all over the place. Has he been like this all night? I just got home.
They all have. Been a mess. And Alabama's offense has been treating the ND defense like an Indian chick on public transportation.
Yeah, I went there. It's been that bad.
QuoteQuote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:19:38 PM
I'm still trying to wrap the noodle around this concept:
She's betting on the future.
Hell, you know that. She's biding her time for the Green Room at the draft.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:19:38 PM
I'm still trying to wrap the noodle around this concept:
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She looks like the world's hottest cougar with her 14 year old boy friend.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
She looks like the world's hottest cougar with her 14 year old boy friend.
She's 23 and there's a bit too much paint in that shot, but I don't think Miss Alabamas are known for the natural look.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
She's 23 and there's a bit too much paint in that shot, but I don't think Miss Alabamas are known for the natural look.
It's more than just that look. Look at that glint in her eyes.
https://twitter.com/kriskeprios/status/288474625191579649
Quote@kriskeprios: Reporter just said McCarron "received ice treatment and it was massaged out." Same RX Musberger had after seeing McCarrons gf. #NDvsBAMA
:lol:
Twitter is killing Mustberger for perving on McCarron's woman.
Quote from: sbr on January 07, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
https://twitter.com/kriskeprios/status/288474625191579649
Quote@kriskeprios: Reporter just said McCarron "received ice treatment and it was massaged out." Same RX Musberger had after seeing McCarrons gf. #NDvsBAMA
:lol:
Twitter is killing Mustberger for perving on McCarron's woman.
:lol: Yeah, he got real creepy there for a while.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2013, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
She's 23 and there's a bit too much paint in that shot, but I don't think Miss Alabamas are known for the natural look.
It's more than just that look. Look at that glint in her eyes.
Well, it's obvious she's a predator. Why hide it. :lol:
From the way Alabama's been treating the Irish, their uniforms should be changed to Black & Tan.
QuoteIt's early, but A.J. McCarron and the Crimson Tide look well on their way to a second straight national championship. Even if the Irish can right the ship and stop McCarron from becoming the first QB to be a repeat champion in the BCS era, he has still won. He has beat us all. Because the woman on the left is his girlfriend, model, Miss Alabama, Katherine Webb.
And we weren't the only ones to recognize his pretty little squeeze. McCarron's girlfriend and his mother Dee Dee Bonner only look as creeped out as they do because Brent Musburger was making creepy old-man passes at them on national television.
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Wow 28-0 at half?
I'll take Alabama and the 55.5 points.
Following the Twitterverse is more fun than watching the game:
QuoteGeorgia quarterback Aaron Murray @aaronmurray11: "Aj McCarrons girlfriend needs to become a Dawg fan #dawgsontop"
Donte Stallworth @DonteStallworth: "And now 'AJ McCarrons' is trending number one right now...not because of his play but because of his ol lady.... And Brent Musburger"
@richarddeitsch: The age difference between Brent Musburger (ESPN announcer) and Katherine Webb (AJ McCarron's girlfreind) is 50.
Steve Politi @StevePoliti: "Brent Musberger: Making college women uncomfortable since 1978."
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Shame I found this too late, we could've played along:
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@Creepymusberger is now a twitter account. :lol:
I love the internet.
Quote from: sbr on January 07, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
I love the internet.
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SkiBum232 40 minutes ago
Well she's got the body and dead behind the eyes look that a football players soon-to-be ex-wife-seeking-reality-show needs.
:lol:
Hey Seedy: Where is your god now?
Hopefully on his way to Denver.
But hey, it wouldn't be the first genocide with which he's abandoned man, and allowed Pure Evil to prevail.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 07, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
Outcoached, outmuscled, outplayed. OutSataned.
I blame Tim.
Yep. Several years ago, he exhorted the Tide to roll, and they've been rolling ever since. :lol:
Just one last good twitter on McCarron's girlfriend, an Auburn grad:
Quoteboddagettaflyer 48 minutes ago
This is such a Bama move. Now McCarron can fuck Auburn 12 months of the year.
/sobs
:lol:
QuoteESPN apologizes for going 'too far' with comments about Alabama quarterback's girlfriend
After catapulting beauty queen Katherine Webb into the spotlight on Monday night, ESPN acknowledged its commentators may have crossed the line with their compliments for the former Miss Alabama USA and apologized for having gone "too far."
Webb became a trending topic on Monday after ESPN announcer Brent Musberger, 73, and analyst Kirk Herbstreit gushed over her good looks as she stood in the stands to cheer on boyfriend A.J. McCarron, quarterback for the University of Alabama.
"Have been asked on focus on @_KatherineWebb in BCS," ESPN Vice President of Communications Mike Soltys wrote on Twitter on Tuesday afternoon.
"We always try to capture interesting storylines and the relationship between an Auburn grad who is Miss Alabama and the current Alabama quarterback certainly met that test," he added. "However, we apologize that the commentary in this instance went too far and Brent understands that."
Webb's newfound notoriety also won her a high-profile fan: Donald Trump, who took to Twitter to sing her praises.
"Miss Alabama, Katherine Webb, has been a truly great representative of the Ms. USA Organization ..We are proud of her!" he wrote on Tuesday. "What a great couple... Katherine Webb and AJ McCarron. They are both winners!"
Trump, the owner of the Miss Universe Organization, also hinted that Webb's sideline appearance is already boosting her career.
"We are going to ask Katherine Webb to be a judge at the Miss USA Pageant coming up in Las Vegas," he tweeted.
Original story:
The final score of Monday night's BCS national championship was Alabama 42, Notre Dame 14. But it was the girlfriend of victorious quarterback A.J. McCarron who had everyone buzzing.
Katherine Webb 1, Rest of Internet 0.
The former Miss Alabama USA became a hot topic during a suspense-free blowout of a game when she was spotted in the stands during ESPN's broadcast. As 73-year-old play-by-play announcer Brent Musburger gushed about her good looks, Webb gained thousands of Twitter followers, bringing her from 2,300 to 140,000 by Tuesday morning. The brunette beauty was also a top search on Google.
Arizona Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett tweeted her his phone number and invited her to a strip club. University of Georgia quarterback A.J. Murray said she needed to become a Bulldogs fan. Webb told reporters her phone battery died during the game from the deluge of texts and tweets.
McCarron answered those would-be suitors on Tuesday morning. He tweeted to Dockett, "#betterkeepdreaming like the rest of these dudes." He also tweeted to Murray, whose team Alabama beat to reach the national championship game, "u don't win enough bud!"
Though McCarron threw four touchdown passes to give Alabama its third national title in four seasons, he now trails his girlfriend, a model from Los Angeles, by about 50,000 followers on Twitter.
"Hey, I guess she's more famous than me,'' the quarterback told Yahoo! Sports.
The couple have been dating for a month and actually met via Twitter, according to USA Today. Webb started trending online after Musburger and color analyst Kirk Herbstreit reacted to her looks.
"You quarterbacks, you get all the good-looking women,'' Musburger said. "What a beautiful woman. Wow!"Herbstreit followed by saying McCarron must be doing something right before offering his own "Wow!"
"Oh Lord,'' Webb told USA Today after being informed of her TV appearance. "This is the first time that's kind of ever happened for me. I've never dated someone who's actually been in the spotlight, so that's a new thing for me.''
Following the game, McCarron hugged his mother and father in the end zone and received congratulations from other family members before sharing a kiss with Webb.
"That means he's a family guy, a mama's boy,'' Webb told Yahoo! Sports. "I'm totally good with that. It's that personality that attracted me to him in the first place. It was never about his status on the team.''
"I know she's good-looking,'' McCarron told USA Today. "She's gonna have guys that jaw-drop over her. That's life. I guess I'm the blessed one at the end of the day. She's gotta put up with me.''
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2013, 07:20:28 AM
I guess I'm the blessed one at the end of the day. She's gotta put up with me.''
Until he washes out of the NFL in a year or two that is.
Have you guys heard the weird news regarding Seedy's Golden Domer super LB?
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
Have you guys heard the weird news regarding Seedy's Golden Domer super LB?
In a stunning development Timay already started a thread about it.
Quote from: sbr on January 16, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
Have you guys heard the weird news regarding Seedy's Golden Domer super LB?
In a stunning development Timay already started a thread about it.
Ah that would explain why i didn't see it, i ignore his threads.
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
Have you guys heard the weird news regarding Seedy's Golden Domer super LB?
Tried to read Timmay's post, but as usual he has all the editing prowess of a retarded chimp.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 16, 2013, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 16, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
Have you guys heard the weird news regarding Seedy's Golden Domer super LB?
Tried to read Timmay's post, but as usual he has all the editing prowess of a retarded chimp.
That shouldn't be a problem--after all these years, you should be used to that in his posts.
QuoteAl Pacino to portray Joe Paterno
LOS ANGELES -- Al Pacino will play Joe Paterno in a movie about the late Penn State football coach.
Producer Edward R. Pressman confirms Brian De Palma will direct "Happy Valley," the tentative title of the film, based on Joe Posnanski's best-seller "Paterno."
"'Happy Valley' reunites the 'Scarface' and 'Carlito's Way' team of De Palma and Pacino for the third time and I can't think of a better duo to tell this story of a complex, intensely righteous man who was brought down by his own tragic flaw," Pressman said in a statement. No start or release dates were given for the film.
While Pressman said the plot remains "under wraps," Posnanski's book followed Paterno's final years, as the winningest coach in college football history saw his career end in disgrace in 2011 with the sex abuse scandal involving assistant Jerry Sandusky.
ANY GIVEN SATURDAY
JERRY SANDUSKY. JERRY SANDUSKY! HAH! I NURSED HIM THROUGH TWO DIVORCES, A COCAINE REHAB, AND LITTLE ASSFUCKED KIDDIES. GOD'S CREATURE, RIGHT? GOD'S SPECIAL CREATURE? HAH!
Sandusky was never divorced. :homestar:
Aspies gotta aspie.
Also tim, you are a fucking idiot.
After an exhaustive search, the Ducks will officially promote offensive coordinator mark Helfrich to head coach in about an hour. They will promote WR coach and ex-Nebraska QB Scott Frost to OC.
It is risky to hand the reins of a Top5 program to someone who has never been a head coach before, but prmoting the OC is how the Ducks roll. Mike Bellotti was Rich Brooks OC, and Chip Kelly was Bellottti's OC. Bellotti had been a head coach at some small school in California and Kelly had never been a head coach before. I hope the third time is still a charm.
Quote from: sbr on January 20, 2013, 02:05:44 PM
After an exhaustive search, the Ducks will officially promote offensive coordinator mark Helfrich to head coach in about an hour.
Heh yeah I was going to say, this promoting the OC thing has worked so well why change it up now?
Quote from: sbr on January 20, 2013, 02:05:44 PM
Scott Frost
Scott Frost? Nebraska? Roll left.
WIDE OPEN BABY
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NCAA Had Nevin Shapiro's Defense Attorney On Its Payroll, Suspends Miami Investigation
Not a good day for the NCAA. The enforcement program, the hired guns responsible for investigating and recommending penalties for NCAA infractions, has come under its own scrutiny. The probe into the University of Miami booster scandal has been put on hold today, as president Mark Emmert announced a number of problems with the investigation. Most notably: Nevin Shapiro's attorney was paid by the NCAA to obtain documents that they weren't legally allowed to have. Improper conduct all around!
You remember the Miami scandal. Shapiro, a booster currently behind bars for his role in a Ponzi scheme, was alleged to have provided cash and gifts to numerous players and recruits. The NCAA's only source seemed to be Shapiro himself, who was pushing a book and was bitter toward the university for turning its back on him. In a teleconference with reporters today, Emmert revealed that investigators had relied on information gathered from Shapiro's bankruptcy proceedings—something the NCAA isn't supposed to have access to.
The information was obtained through Shapiro's defense attorney, who was on the NCAA's payroll. Curiously, Emmert said that nobody in Indianapolis had approved the attorney's hire, and the payouts were only discovered when a bill showed up months later.
The NCAA has retained an outside law firm to examine what happened here, and will not proceed with the Miami case until that investigation is finished. Miami, meanwhile, has banned itself for the past two postseasons with self-imposed sanctions.
"To say the least, I am angered and saddened by this situation. Trust and credibility are essential to our regulatory tasks," said Emmert. "My intent is to ensure our investigatory functions operate with integrity and are fair and consistent with our member schools, athletics staff and most importantly our student-athletes," he added.
There was not nearly so much self-examination after it emerged that an NCAA investigator had made up her mind about UCLA's Shabazz Muhammad even before a ruling was made. That came to light when the investigator's boyfriend loudly boasted about how the NCAA would declare him ineligible, a conversation overheard on an airplane.
That investigator was fired, and judging from the NCAA's reference to "former" enforcement staff members in the Miami case, there are a few more people out of work today.
Like we said, not a good day for the NCAA, but a great day for anyone who believes the system is fundamentally broken and unfair. It'd be nice if the whole thing were blown up, but expect some cosmetic fixes before the cartel carries on. Considering the NCAA only expects this investigation to last 7-10 days, they'll be back to business soon enough.
Can they blow it up and start over yet?
The people who are constantly whining about the NCAA and calling for it to be "blown up" don't seem to understand that the NCAA is the university presidents of the member schools, and is a voluntary organization. If it were "blown up," what makes any of the whiners think that the presidents wouldn't simply re-create it very much as-is?
Deadspin is, as usual, wrong in its reporting when it says that the documents that the NCAA received from Shapiro's lawyer were documents "that they weren't legally allowed to have." The NCAA isn't a branch of government, and can obtain documents (in this case, documents filed in an open bankruptcy hearing) in any way that doesn't break the law. What Emmert is "disappointed" about is that investigators didn't clear the potential conflict of interest (on the lawyer's part, not the NCAA's) with the home office before they authorized paying the lawyer for the time it took her to copy and mail the documents. Emmert knows that it looks bad, even though it is legal.
The NCAA sucks in so many ways for us as fans, but it does what its "owners" want it to do: cheaply provide the ground rules for reasonably fair competition in college athletics, so the presidents can get on with their own jobs and not spend much time regulating athletics at their schools. I think that the presidents understand that there will be some cheating, and regard that is just a price to pay.
"@Sports_Humorist: @ESPN_Colin I see the U.S. Postal Service is following in the footsteps of Big East Football; both have stopped delivering on Saturdays."
:lol:
Quote4 Ala. football players arrested after robberies
Three University of Alabama football players have been charged with knocking students unconscious and stealing their wallets, while a fourth player has been charged with using a stolen debit card, officials said Tuesday.
Linebacker Tyler Hayes, 18, and safety Eddie Williams, 20, confessed to robbing a student who was punched in the head and face and kicked in the ribs and back early Monday morning, according to court documents. Williams said D.J. Pettway, 20, a defensive lineman, and Hayes waited in a nearby vehicle about an hour later while he knocked out and robbed another student. Williams and Hayes both admitted to their involvement, according to the documents.
Williams and running back Brent Calloway, 20, both admitted to using a stolen credit card to buy snacks from vending machines inside a dormitory, the documents said.
All four students were indefinitely suspended by coach Nick Saban.
Pettway and Hayes were charged with second-degree robbery. Williams was charged with fraudulent use of a credit card and second-degree robbery. Calloway was charged with fraudulent use of a credit card. Williams was released on $65,000 bond, while Hayes and Pettway were released on $60,000 bond each. Calloway was released on $5,000 bond.
``This behavior is unacceptable for any student-athlete at the University of Alabama and not representative of our football program,'' Saban said in a news release.
All four players were backups last season for Alabama, which has won two straight national titles and three of the past four. Williams didn't play in 2012. But he was one of the nation's top prospects the previous year and moved from receiver to safety.
The first student reported having his Apple Macbook Pro stolen from his backpack. Both sustained mild concussions, cuts on the face and heavy swelling, and had their wallets taken, according to documents.
University police posted an advisory Monday saying two students reported being approached by two men who asked for a light for a cigarette.
Police also said Williams had been arrested on a charge of carrying a pistol without a permit a day before his arrest on the robbery charges. Tuscaloosa police Sgt. Brent Blankley said in a news release that a clerk at a gas station called police early Sunday, telling officers that Williams threatened that he had something in his trunk after a fight about paying for gas.
Officers who pulled over Williams found a pistol in his pants pocket, the release said. In that case, he was released on $500 bond.
Jail records did not show whether any of the players had an attorney.
Pettway, who was a redshirt freshman, played in 13 games and had 2 1/2 sacks and eight tackles.
Hayes had 14 tackles as a freshman.
Calloway played mostly on special teams but gained 63 yards on 10 carries. He has moved around on the field, working as a linebacker, tight end and H-back since Alabama signed the onetime Auburn commitment.
Calloway was arrested on a charge of marijuana possession in October 2011 during a redshirt season.
The Associated Press
See, if they were paid a small fraction of the cash they make for the school and the NCAA they wouldn't need to go around robbing people. :P
Wow, how stupid.
One of the Bengals video interns got contacted by Western Kentucky today for a job while we were out for drinks. Guess who he gets to be interviewed by next week? :D
Your Blue Hen Buddy just hit the jackpot today.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 08:41:11 PM
Your Blue Hen Buddy just hit the jackpot today.
I was hoping for more :P