NCAA Football '12-13

[PDH]

Get to miss another Cowboy game...sigh.

Going to the airport early AM tomorrow.  Thank God Southwest is cheap.

[Valmy]

Get to miss another Cowboy game...sigh.

Going to the airport early AM tomorrow.  Thank God Southwest is cheap.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Valmy, you see the new Big XII TV deal?  Includes a 13 year grant of rights.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205680799&DB_OEM_ID=10410

Average of $20 million/year per school + whatever they can get for T3 and all the other stuff.  Texas is going to be up over $40 million now just with this (also add in that new bowl and the playoffs, holy shit), with OU and KU probably at least in the high 20's low 30's I'd guess, with their tv/radio/tubes deals.

[PDH]

Sweet, when Wyoming joins the Big 12 we will finally get a piece of that pie!

[MadBurgerMaker]

Sweet, when Wyoming joins the Big 12 we will finally get a piece of that pie!

Bring a friend and everyone gets even more because of the new conference championship game! 

[PDH]

Bring a friend and everyone gets even more because of the new conference championship game! 

As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige.  Maybe Air Force!

[MadBurgerMaker]

As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige.  Maybe Air Force!

No Aggies allowed! 

UNLV would be solid for the road games. Also a free W for everyone.  Just throwin that out there.

[Valmy]

As long as it ain't Colorado State (they used to be Aggies - puke), we will oblige.  Maybe Air Force!

The Big 12 actually already talked to Air Force back when they were flirting with BYU...and they said no.  They doubted they could ever compete in the Big 12 and didn't want to do the things necessary to do so.

Anyway I am not very happy with the deal.  It is not enough money to seduce away any ACC teams and will probably leave them permanently at 10 teams.  Unless we get Louisville or something.  But who knows?  It might be an interesting off season.  Maybe that SEC-Big 12 Bowl thing might give us the cash to successfully get Florida State over here.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Anyway I am not very happy with the deal.  It is not enough money to seduce away any ACC teams

  If they need that much more money, they weren't ever leaving anyway.  This is $20 million for ten teams, T1 and T2 only.  The ACC deal is $17 million for T1, T2, T3, with twelve teams and a CCG.

[Valmy]

  If they need that much more money, they weren't ever leaving anyway.  This is $20 million for ten teams, T1 and T2 only.  The ACC deal is $17 million for T1, T2, T3, with twelve teams and a CCG.

Not that much more but 21 or 22 million would have been better.  They are not coming here for the tradition or the love of Texas and OU.  They will be coming for the money they need to compete with the SEC teams.  Also the ACC does not demand the granting of rights.

The funniest part I think is now Kansas is one of the biggest money TV programs in the country.  This combined with their ridiculously profiteable Basketball network means they will be bringing in 30 Million+ a year just from TV.

[Valmy]

A positive is this will get more Big 12 games on national TV.  I think the Big 12 is the most exciting conference so the more the merrier.  The people demand the kind of awesome only Big 12 offenses can deliver!

[MadBurgerMaker]

Not that much more but 21 or 22 million would have been nice.

21 is what the PAC makes right now (not including T3 either).  The Big Ten is at slightly less than that (including BTN).  They both have 12 teams and a CCG.  This is a solid deal.

The funniest part I think is now Kansas is one of the biggest money TV programs in the country.  This combined with their ridiculously profiteable Basketball network means they will be bringing in 30 Million+ a year just from TV.

Yeah, good times right there.  They're pretty sneaky about it too.  Rammed that Jayhawk Network through right under A&M's nose.

E:  Even if it is just adjusted so everyone still makes the same $20 million even with 12 teams and a CCG, Florida State has to be in the OU/KU range if they sell their rights properly.  30+ is a helluva raise.

[grumbler]

21 is what the PAC makes right now (not including T3 either).  The Big Ten is at slightly less than that (including BTN).  They both have 12 teams and a CCG.  This is a solid deal.

Close.  According to http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/ the per-team breakdown for 2012 is:

Big Ten: $19.7-22 million
Pac 12: $20.2 million
Big 12: $20 million
SEC: $17.1 million
ACC: $17.1 million

The SEC and Big Ten will be negotiating new contracts in the short term, so those revenues can be expected to increase dramatically.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Close.  According to http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/ the per-team breakdown for 2012 is:

Big Ten: $19.7-22 million
Pac 12: $20.2 million
Big 12: $20 million
SEC: $17.1 million
ACC: $17.1 million

The SEC and Big Ten will be negotiating new contracts in the short term, so those revenues can be expected to increase dramatically.

ESPN disagrees: http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/705/college-tv-rights-deals-undergo-makeovers  Anyway, it's close enough that it doesn't matter either way re: what Valmy and I were talking about.   Also, from that link:

Big East
6 years, $200 million, ABC/ESPN [CBS contributes $9 million of total] (through 2013)
Annual: $40 million
Average Annual per School: $3.18 million for football schools, $1.56 million for non-football schools

Notes: Big East is next conference up for renewal. Total is expected to be far below the $1.4 billion they turned down.

I still don't get why they turned that deal down.  TCU and WVU made a TON of money off of realignment.  WVU should be able to sell their other rights for a pretty good amount, too. 

[derspiess]

I don't pay much attention to the money side of college football, as important as it obviously is, but the Big 12 deal looks good to me.  Some of the details of the joint ESPN-Fox agreement seem vague-- I wonder if you'll be able to get Fox-broadcasted games on ESPN3 under the deal.  That would kick ass, given how you can get ESPN3 literally everywhere (phone, computer, Xbox, etc.).