After my awesome trip through the Carribean I have the urge to see the world and I've started to wonder about teaching English abroad. I think a couple of people here have done that. What did you think of the experience?
All others are welcome to lay down bets on all the horrible things that could happen to me in the unlikely event I follow through with this.
Isn't that usually done by folks who don't have education degrees?
I can understand the appeal, but I would suggest getting into the public school system ASAP so you can milk the gubmint, never get fired no matter what you do (short of raping someone), and then retire at 55. :)
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 10:37:32 AM
Isn't that usually done by folks who don't have education degrees?
Yeah, but if you have one I hear it's very easy to get a decent job in a 1st world country.
I'd like to do something interesting before I get to old.
Wasn't Disturbed Prevert doing something along those lines?
QuoteAll others are welcome to lay down bets on all the horrible things that could happen to me
5 quatloos on being lynched after showing an alt-history map to a class.
Are there any American government schools abroad? We have those in the major cities of the world and state-employed teachers can teach there for a couple of years getting their usual salary and benefits etc. and afterwards returning into a safe job at home.
Quote from: Lucidor on July 21, 2009, 10:44:26 AM
Wasn't Disturbed Prevert doing something along those lines?
Not sure about him, but Buddha definitely did teach abroad in Japan, as is Pitiful Pathos right now (in Korea?) IIRC.
I also have an ex-girlfriend who has taught English abroad in Japan and Turkey, and was teaching ESL at University of Maryland until she got laid off last month.
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2009, 10:45:53 AM
Are there any American government schools abroad? We have those in the major cities of the world and you can teach there for a couple of years getting your usual salary and benefits etc. and afterwards returning into a safe job at home.
Hey, that's a great idea. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 10:37:32 AM
Isn't that usually done by folks who don't have education degrees?
With an education degree he could teach at an international/American school and make quite a lot of money, not just do esl.
Come to Hungary. :)
Hang your US passport on your neck, and enjoy the girls flocking in.
How unamerican of you.
You do know that all those countries are foreign?
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
Come to Hungary. :)
Hang your US passport on your neck, and enjoy the girls flocking in.
We need to get you a US passport.
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
Hang your US passport on your neck, and enjoy the girls flocking in.
Them, or the gypsies.
I lived and worked in Tokyo for 3 years. DP does some kinda work in Thailand, but I'm not sure it's ESL. St Jaba is in Korea... Isn't someone in China now to?
It's a great experience that I reccomend to anyone. It is however not easy. I did not have an education degree either. Having one likely will get you a cushier gig. heck a HS Home Ec teacher I know just got hired in England because they need to import people to teach cooking.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:17:42 AM
heck a HS Home Ec teacher I know just got hired in England because they need to import people to teach cooking.
FINALLY. Why couldn't they have learned to cook prior to 2002 when I visited London? :(
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:19:08 AM
FINALLY. Why couldn't they have learned to cook prior to 2002 when I visited London? :(
:lol:
British food = blandest in the world. I remember when I was there in 2000...I would practically empty the pepper on the food to try to get it to taste like something...anything...
You would think ruling India would have taught them something about how to properly season food.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
:lol:
British food = blandest in the world. I remember when I was there in 2000...I would practically empty the pepper on the food to try to get it to taste like something...anything...
You would think ruling India would have taught them something about how to properly season food.
Well, to be fair the Indian food there was BADASS and I ate it as often as possible. Also, the breakfasts our hotel served were extremely good (the British do cook a mean breakfast).
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
:lol:
British food = blandest in the world. I remember when I was there in 2000...I would practically empty the pepper on the food to try to get it to taste like something...anything...
You would think ruling India would have taught them something about how to properly season food.
Well, to be fair the Indian food there was BADASS and I ate it as often as possible. Also, the breakfasts our hotel served were extremely good (the British do cook a mean breakfast).
I think that's because it's the only real "sober" meal. The rest of the day's eating is down at the pub. Tastes great while in yer cups.
I'd drink my lunch too if it was either beer or a kidney pie, onion tart, or some other such nonsense. :(
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Well, to be fair the Indian food there was BADASS and I ate it as often as possible.
:yes:
You eat the ethnic food and avoid the rest.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I did have a good high tea at Fortnum & Mason, though. :bowler:
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
:p okay yes. um don't use recruiters, Cal is right. Actually My friend going to London has had a hell of a time having this useless middle agent to deal with. Other than hooking up the interview all they've done is cause delays by promising to help with the Visa stuff, and then not doing anything, and she had to do it all herself.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I'm linking at some websites linked from the State department but they charge alot and seem to have high expectations. (This is for the teaching at American schools abroad idea)
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 21, 2009, 11:04:47 AM
How unamerican of you.
You do know that all those countries are foreign?
how subversive of them. one would think that all those other countries would have learned to be 100% American by now.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I'm linking at some websites linked from the State department but they charge alot and seem to have high expectations. (This is for the teaching at American schools abroad idea)
but you have teaching credentials, right? should be easire for you. A Friend of mine has an MA in English Lit and is Head of an English dept at some ShangHai Uni.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I'm linking at some websites linked from the State department but they charge alot and seem to have high expectations. (This is for the teaching at American schools abroad idea)
but you have teaching credentials, right? should be easire for you. A Friend of mine has an MA in English Lit and is Head of an English dept at some ShangHai Uni.
Yeah, I have a BA in History, a MA in Education and am certified to teach History/Social Studies and PoliSci to kids in High School and Middle School.
I've been/have recently again been semi-considering this.
There's the Jet program which sends UK graduates off to teach English in Japan for a year and seems really rather good...But...its a year of my life. Not good for job prospects.
As you're wanting to be a Teacher though Tim totally go for it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I'm linking at some websites linked from the State department but they charge alot and seem to have high expectations. (This is for the teaching at American schools abroad idea)
but you have teaching credentials, right? should be easire for you. A Friend of mine has an MA in English Lit and is Head of an English dept at some ShangHai Uni.
Yeah, I have a BA in History, a MA in Education and am certified to teach History/Social Studies and PoliSci to kids in High School and Middle School.
Dude, you should look into teaching at University in Japan! You could likely get a really cushy gig (4 or 5 hours a day), nice apartment, more Japanese 'tang than you could possibly handle.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I answered an ad, went to interview with 25 other people. I got the job (we had to do model lessons... mine was lame, but I had personality and yet was deferential and respectful.)
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady if they're from the mysterious East.
I'm linking at some websites linked from the State department but they charge alot and seem to have high expectations. (This is for the teaching at American schools abroad idea)
but you have teaching credentials, right? should be easire for you. A Friend of mine has an MA in English Lit and is Head of an English dept at some ShangHai Uni.
Yeah, I have a BA in History, a MA in Education and am certified to teach History/Social Studies and PoliSci to kids in High School and Middle School.
Dude, you should look into teaching at University in Japan! You could likely get a really cushy gig (4 or 5 hours a day), nice apartment, more Japanese 'tang than you could possibly handle.
Serious? How do I go about it?
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know the language to get around, I'd imagine a lot harder than it is in Europe.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:57:55 AM
Serious? How do I go about it?
Isn't Japan one of the oldest countries in the world? You would probably only be able to find 40 year old 'tang.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:57:55 AM
Serious? How do I go about it?
Isn't Japan one of the oldest countries in the world? You would probably only be able to find 40 year old 'tang.
Myeh.
Orientals all look about 16 until they hit 45 when they start looking about 80. They only have two settings.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:57:55 AM
Serious? How do I go about it?
Isn't Japan one of the oldest countries in the world? You would probably only be able to find 40 year old 'tang.
Dude I was near 40 and I mostly dated 20-somethings. It's a place where we are considered exotic.:p
@Tim... It sure helps to learn the language. and it's not hard to pick up (despite what the Japanese tell you). My Japanese was never great. I never felt unable to do most things I wanted.
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:04:43 PM
:rolleyes:
:lol:
And you accuse me of being provincial.
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
:lol:
And you accuse me of being provincial.
The United States isn't a backwater. :console:
It's a collection of backwaters & New York?
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:04:43 PM
:rolleyes:
:lol:
And you accuse me of being provincial.
He rolled his eyes because that term is considered a bit archaic with racist connotations in the US.
Oh Tim... check out daveseslcafe.com if you want the real poop on working abroad. all your questions can be answered in a forum atmosphere yet!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:25:55 PM
:yes:
He rolled his eyes because that term is considered a bit archaic with racist connotations in the US.
For some reason neither the Japs nor the Chinamen like being called 'Orientals'. :unsure:
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:25:55 PM
He rolled his eyes because that term is considered a bit archaic with racist connotations in the US.
Exactly.
In the UK though its a accepted term.
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:17 PM
For some reason neither the Japs nor the Chinamen like being called 'Orientals'. :unsure:
That is why I was always sensitive to this and called them chinks and nips.
Chinamen girls.
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:25:55 PM
He rolled his eyes because that term is considered a bit archaic with racist connotations in the US.
Exactly.
In the UK though its a accepted term.
And the US is five times as populous and six times as rich. How's the US a backwater in comparison?
Fudge.
Deleted my post by accident.
err.....Weirdness to ensue:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:25:55 PM
He rolled his eyes because that term is considered a bit archaic with racist connotations in the US.
Exactly.
In the UK though its a accepted term.
QuoteAnd the US is five times as populous and six times as rich. How's the US a backwater in comparison?
:blink: :unsure:
So?
What does that have to do with anything?
British English is a fully accepted separate standard to American English. Neither side really challenges this.
Quote from: CaligaFor some reason neither the Japs nor the Chinamen like being called 'Orientals'. :unsure:
The ones I know don't care.
QuoteWe call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
Yep. I'm not there though.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
Which creates endless amounts of confusion thanks to that retard Columbus.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
My buddy who's married to the Brit/Indian girl has taken to using "Asian" to refer to Indians. Annoys the crap out of me, mostly because he's trying to bait people into challenging him on the nomenclature. He thinks he's the only American who understands Britspeak.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
Which creates endless amounts of confusion thanks to that retard Columbus.
*shrug* Well, in his defense, even the Romans thought they were Indians from India.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
My buddy who's married to the Brit/Indian girl has taken to using "Asian" to refer to Indians. Annoys the crap out of me, mostly because he's trying to bait people into challenging him on the nomenclature. He thinks he's the only American who understands Britspeak.
^_^
Hot, always wanted to bag an Indian girl.
Yeah, I used to work with an Indian guy who would always say stuff like "Hey quit picking on the Asian guy!" and everyone always looked around and seemed confused. He either couldn't get or didn't care that the term means something different here.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
My buddy who's married to the Brit/Indian girl has taken to using "Asian" to refer to Indians. Annoys the crap out of me, mostly because he's trying to bait people into challenging him on the nomenclature. He thinks he's the only American who understands Britspeak.
I find that South Asian and East Asian are pretty safe terms. :)
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
We call them 'Asians' here, which is a term you use to refer to the folks we call 'Indians'.
Asian lacks specificity. Oriental is more succinct when you wish to say Chinese/Japanese/Koreans but not Indians/Arabs/Russians. You're right though, the word's gone out of style.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
^_^
Hot, always wanted to bag an Indian girl.
Done x2. :blurgh:
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
:lol:
And you accuse me of being provincial.
The United States isn't a backwater. :console:
Depends on where you are. New York isn't, but unimportant places like Wyoming, Kentucky or Kansas, as well as poor places like California definitely are.
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
Depends on where you are. New York isn't, but unimportant places like Wyoming, Kentucky or Kansas, as well as poor places like California definitely are.
This coming from a guy in Alberta. :lol:
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
The United States isn't a backwater. :console:
Nor is Europe :contract:
However, that is not at all the point, I was referring to your mindset and a discussion of not too long ago when you accused me of thinking that my way was the only right way (yet here you are doing just that...)
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
Depends on where you are. New York isn't, but unimportant places like Wyoming, Kentucky or Kansas, as well as poor places like California definitely are.
This coming from a guy in Alberta. :lol:
Oil is the great equalizer.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:39:48 PM
This coming from a guy in Alberta. :lol:
He tries so hard. :D
I do like the idea that California is an important backwater though.
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
The United States isn't a backwater. :console:
Nor is Europe :contract:
Depends on where you are in Europe. London, northern France, northwestern Germany aren't. Southern Italy, Scandinavia, Spain and eastern Europe are.
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Oil is the great equalizer.
Well, we produce bourbon and the world's finest horses. When civilization collapses, you will want horses to ride around on (since the distro network for oil will break down) and bourbon to drown your sorrows in. :alberta:
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
Depends on where you are in Europe. London, northern France, northwestern Germany aren't. Southern Italy, Scandinavia, Spain and eastern Europe are.
Correct re: southern Italy. They drive on the sidewalks and dump their trash on the street there. :(
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
I do like the idea that California is an important backwater though.
Inland California is just a desert with Sacramento in there someplace...
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Oil is the great equalizer.
Well, we produce bourbon and the world's finest horses. When civilization collapses, you will want horses to ride around on (since the distro network for oil will break down) and bourbon to drown your sorrows in. :alberta:
Somebody has been reading
Horseclans again.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 12:45:18 PM
Somebody has been reading Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman Horseclans again.
Fixed. :)
On a related note, it seems like Princesca doesn't really like being called 'Wild Horse Woman'. :huh: I may have to stop calling her that. :(
There's a class at Brown for like $1095 on teaching English next month, but I already know half the shit on the syllabus.
Also, I'm cheap.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Oil is the great equalizer.
Well, we produce bourbon and the world's finest horses. When civilization collapses, you will want horses to ride around on (since the distro network for oil will break down) and bourbon to drown your sorrows in. :alberta:
Liquor can be made anywhere. As for horses, you think we don't have them here?
I was at my sister-in-law's wedding, and there were people from the groom's side of the family that had cowboy hats and boots, and enormous belt buckles. :bleeding:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:47:54 PM
There's a class at Brown for like $1095 on teaching English next month, but I already know half the shit on the syllabus.
Also, I'm cheap.
Who goes to university to learn?
Its the bit of paper that you go for.
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Inland California is just a desert with Sacramento in there someplace...
I think you might have meant "Inland Southern California" or perhaps even "the Inland Empire." :P
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
Liquor can be made anywhere.
Bourbon can't (well, good bourbon anyway).
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 12:47:54 PM
There's a class at Brown for like $1095 on teaching English next month, but I already know half the shit on the syllabus.
Also, I'm cheap.
Who goes to university to learn?
Its the bit of paper that you go for.
If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd probably keep going to a few classes a year until I keeled over. I love college.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
Liquor can be made anywhere.
Bourbon can't (well, good bourbon anyway).
They don't grow corn anywhere else but kentucky? :yeahright:
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
Liquor can be made anywhere. As for horses, you think we don't have them here?
I was at my sister-in-law's wedding, and there were people from the groom's side of the family that had cowboy hats and boots, and enormous belt buckles. :bleeding:
Sounds like my wedding. :alberta:
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 12:53:48 PM
They don't grow corn anywhere else but kentucky? :yeahright:
It ain't the corn, boy, it's the limewater. :cool:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know the language to get around, I'd imagine a lot harder than it is in Europe.
In Japan it is not hard at all.
Buddha=japan
oldman=s. Korea
pathos=china
pervert=thailand
and yeah jaba is headed somewhere over there or was at least talking about it.
Quote from: Jacob on July 21, 2009, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know the language to get around, I'd imagine a lot harder than it is in Europe.
In Japan it is not hard at all.
Isn't about every sign over there in English also?
Biggest danger I hear in Japan is kids sticking their fingers in your ass.
http://outpostnine.com/editorials/teacher1.html
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 12:53:48 PM
They don't grow corn anywhere else but kentucky? :yeahright:
It ain't the corn, boy, it's the limewater. :cool:
Plus specially selected oak barrels, charred to perfection. Not to mention local craftmanship. And supposedly even climate plays a part in the aging process :cheers:
Boys, when civilization collapses I'm not too worried about having my whiskey made in "specially selected oak barrels, charred to perfection".
I just want some alcohol to numb the pain.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 01:11:02 PM
Boys, when civilization collapses I'm not too worried about having my whiskey made in "specially selected oak barrels, charred to perfection".
I just want some alcohol to numb the pain.
And that is when you reach for the Yukon Jack.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 01:11:02 PM
Boys, when civilization collapses I'm not too worried about having my whiskey made in "specially selected oak barrels, charred to perfection".
I just want some alcohol to numb the pain.
I read you, but don't you want some delicious alcohol? :) If I'm gonna go, I'm gonna do it in style.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
Plus specially selected oak barrels, charred to perfection. Not to mention local craftmanship. And supposedly even climate plays a part in the aging process :cheers:
That all depends on the distillery. :nerd:
Maker's Mark has their own cooperage operation, like you said.. but Wild Turkey gets their charred oak barrels from some manufacturer in Missourah.
But yeah, a hot, humid summer is required for the bourbon to interact with the barrels properly and ensure that the angels take the proper share. :cool:
You are still a damn yankee Cal.
:P
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
You are still a damn yankee Cal.
:P
The only way I can finally remove the Yank-taint is to get my Colonel's commission.
WHERE'S MY DAMN NOMINATION MAN!? :ultra:
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
You are still a damn yankee Cal.
:P
The only way I can finally remove the Yank-taint is to get my Colonel's commission.
WHERE'S MY DAMN NOMINATION MAN!? :ultra:
Where's my 12,000 dollars?
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
Where's my 12,000 dollars?
Inflation is a bitch. :weep:
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
Where's my 12,000 dollars?
Inflation is a bitch. :weep:
He didn't say what kind of dollars, try $12,000 Zimbabwe dollars.
I like the sound of "Colonel Pissboy." :smoke:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 21, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
Where's my 12,000 dollars?
Inflation is a bitch. :weep:
He didn't say what kind of dollars, try $12,000 Zimbabwe dollars.
Your interference in mah negotations will result in me striking you with my riding crop sirrah.
Quote from: Jacob on July 21, 2009, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know the language to get around, I'd imagine a lot harder than it is in Europe.
In Japan it is not hard at all.
Care to elaborate? Do the signs have English subtitles? How many people on the street have a conversational grasp of English?
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
Maker's Mark has their own cooperage operation, like you said.. but Wild Turkey gets their charred oak barrels from some manufacturer in Missourah.
I didn't say the barrels were from Kentucky :contract: Just meant to say that only Kentucky distilleries (and possibly some in Tennessee) seem to have the barrel thing figured out.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 01:48:19 PMI didn't say the barrels were from Kentucky :contract: Just meant to say that only Kentucky distilleries (and possibly some in Tennessee) seem to have the barrel thing figured out.
I like George Dickel and Jack Daniels, but bourbon > Tennessee whiskies. :)
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
I didn't say the barrels were from Kentucky :contract: Just meant to say that only Kentucky distilleries (and possibly some in Tennessee) seem to have the barrel thing figured out.
:rolleyes:
There are some fabulous rye whiskies made in this country.
Sign me up too. :P I can't find a job anywhere in this damn state.
Quote from: Jaron on July 21, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Sign me up too. :P I can't find a job anywhere in this damn state.
We have a sausage factory a country over that enjoys
processing employing Mexicans. You can work there and live in my basement as long as you agree to do my landscaping. :)
Me = charitable. :wib:
edit: fixed error. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: Jaron on July 21, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Sign me up too. :P I can't find a job anywhere in this damn state.
We have a sausage factory a country over that enjoys processing employing Mexicans. You can work there and live in my basement as long as you agree to do my landscaping. :)
Me = charitable. :wib:
edit: fixed error. :blush:
How about no. I'm above such things, you damn racist pig. At least you got that part of being from Kentucky down.
Quote from: Jaron on July 21, 2009, 02:03:42 PMHow about no. I'm above such things, you damn racist pig. At least you got that part of being from Kentucky down.
Testify to Ed, brother. It will help me earn my commission. :)
Dear Ed Anger,
This carpet bagger thinks he is worthy of your homelands highest honor.
PS - Keep in mind he comes from Jew infested Massachusetts.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 01:55:20 PM
There are some fabulous rye whiskies made in this country.
Let's hear some. And don't you dare name any that are blended with neutral grain spirits and/or American whiskey :P
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 01:55:20 PM
There are some fabulous rye whiskies made in this country.
Let's hear some. And don't you dare name any that are blended with neutral grain spirits and/or American whiskey :P
You tell him. Neil and BB are always trying to bring down the American legacy. <_<
In a way though BB sorta has that pioneer spirit down even to the indian persecutions.
Quote from: Jaron on July 21, 2009, 02:10:22 PM
Dear Ed Anger,
This carpet bagger thinks he is worthy of your homelands highest honor.
PS - Keep in mind he comes from Jew infested Massachusetts.
Dear Jaron,
Ed Anger is a Yankee himself, thus unlikely to care about such things.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 10:35:11 AM
After my awesome trip through the Carribean I have the urge to see the world and I've started to wonder about teaching English abroad.
I shudder to think at how sheltered and coccooned your life must have been (understandable due to your past condition) to get piqued to get out and see the world only at 20 something, after finishing university and thanks to a cozy family cruise through the Caribbean.
Better late than never, I guess.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 01:32:21 PMCare to elaborate? Do the signs have English subtitles? How many people on the street have a conversational grasp of English?
It's not that bad. Don't be a pussy. Just go. Japan is one of the easiest countries in the world to be a 20-something single white male in. It's not about the details, it's about the attitude - lots of people won't speak English, lots of signs won't be in English and the cultural assumptions will be different than yours but you can't really get fucked up unless you're militantly belligerent and/or clueless so just go and have an adventure.
Quote from: Jacob on July 21, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 01:32:21 PMCare to elaborate? Do the signs have English subtitles? How many people on the street have a conversational grasp of English?
It's not that bad. Don't be a pussy. Just go. Japan is one of the easiest countries in the world to be a 20-something single white male in. It's not about the details, it's about the attitude - lots of people won't speak English, lots of signs won't be in English and the cultural assumptions will be different than yours but you can't really get fucked up unless you're militantly belligerent and/or clueless so just go and have an adventure.
Just wondering, I'm definitely leaning towards doing it. I've always wanted to see Japan after all, and I don't think my local prospects are that great for a long term job right now.
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Just wondering, I'm definitely leaning towards doing it. I've always wanted to see Japan after all, and I don't think my local prospects are that great for a long term job right now.
Please be careful to not OD on manga. :(
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
What do you have other than porn stars and wine infested with noble rot? ^_^
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 02:54:16 PM
What do you have other than porn stars and wine infested with noble rot? ^_^
They have a nice bridge IIRC.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Just wondering, I'm definitely leaning towards doing it. I've always wanted to see Japan after all, and I don't think my local prospects are that great for a long term job right now.
Please be careful to not OD on manga. :(
It's not like I'm gonna be able to read Shonen Jump in the original Japanese. At least not for a while anyways.
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
Link me up some job sites than.
Also, Buddha, should I stick with one of the big 4 schools or risk one of the smaller schools or teach for a corporations?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
Link me up some job sites than.
My sister's BF recently finished uni on some English course (whatever they call it) I'll ask him tomorrow if he knows any good site/agency.
Another thing Buddha, a lot of the adds I'm seeing are for smaller cities, which makes sense given the time of year it is. Where were you, one of the big cities or somewhere smaller?
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
I'll come over. I need a break from bartending for a bit, and it'd be nice to use my degree for once.
Tamas, N Americans working in HUngary are going to have as many issues as Europeans working in N America (i.e. it's tough). Plus you guys have a hell of a lot more people capable of teaching English than the Japanese do.
If Jimmy wants to travel, Asia is his most likely bet.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
Tamas, N Americans working in HUngary are going to have as many issues as Europeans working in N America (i.e. it's tough). Plus you guys have a hell of a lot more people capable of teaching English than the Japanese do.
If Jimmy wants to travel, Asia is his most likely bet.
:mad:
I am not at all sure regarding your first point, but you are right with the 2nd.
I've got an education degree, and am teaching at a Canadian (Ontario) high school in Nanjing, China. The pay and perks are pretty good. If you're interested in China (and you probably aren't), I can give you some advice.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on July 21, 2009, 04:01:23 PM
I've got an education degree, and am teaching at a Canadian (Ontario) high school in Nanjing, China. The pay and perks are pretty good. If you're interested in China (and you probably aren't), I can give you some advice.
Thanks for the offer, but yeah, I'm not interested in teaching in China.
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
:lol:
True.
(where's that cool picture of 'fantasy vs. reality' with the anime character and the fat Japanese girl when you need it...)
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on July 21, 2009, 04:01:23 PM
I've got an education degree, and am teaching at a Canadian (Ontario) high school in Nanjing, China. The pay and perks are pretty good. If you're interested in China (and you probably aren't), I can give you some advice.
How's it going, by the way? Do you have some sort of blog or updates or something?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on July 21, 2009, 04:01:23 PM
I've got an education degree, and am teaching at a Canadian (Ontario) high school in Nanjing, China. The pay and perks are pretty good. If you're interested in China (and you probably aren't), I can give you some advice.
Thanks for the offer, but yeah, I'm not interested in teaching in China.
I wouldn't be so quick to discount it. If you want to teach in Asia, China is a huge part of Asia.
I think Timmy just wants Japan. :contract:
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 04:24:29 PM
I think Timmy just wants Japan. :contract:
And I think he's being silly if he only wants Japan. :contract:
Quote from: The Larch on July 21, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
I shudder to think at how sheltered and coccooned your life must have been (understandable due to your past condition) to get piqued to get out and see the world only at 20 something, after finishing university and thanks to a cozy family cruise through the Caribbean.
Better late than never, I guess.
Hi, I'm America. Have we met?
If you end up going to Japan you need to prepare mentally for the gigantic bush.
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 21, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 01:32:21 PMCare to elaborate? Do the signs have English subtitles? How many people on the street have a conversational grasp of English?
It's not that bad. Don't be a pussy. Just go. Japan is one of the easiest countries in the world to be a 20-something single white male in. It's not about the details, it's about the attitude - lots of people won't speak English, lots of signs won't be in English and the cultural assumptions will be different than yours but you can't really get fucked up unless you're militantly belligerent and/or clueless so just go and have an adventure.
Just wondering, I'm definitely leaning towards doing it. I've always wanted to see Japan after all, and I don't think my local prospects are that great for a long term job right now.
Are teaching jobs for people with master's degrees in teaching hard to find now?
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
Hi, I'm America. Have we met?
Americans sound awful. :x
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
Americans sound awful. :x
Yeah. But at least we bathe daily :)
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Again, I suspect there's little demand for English speakers in India, given the few centuries of English colonial rule.
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: The Larch on July 21, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
I shudder to think at how sheltered and coccooned your life must have been (understandable due to your past condition) to get piqued to get out and see the world only at 20 something, after finishing university and thanks to a cozy family cruise through the Caribbean.
Better late than never, I guess.
Hi, I'm America. Have we met?
Hi America, I hope to meet you after the summer. Take care! :)
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: The Larch on July 21, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
I shudder to think at how sheltered and coccooned your life must have been (understandable due to your past condition) to get piqued to get out and see the world only at 20 something, after finishing university and thanks to a cozy family cruise through the Caribbean.
Better late than never, I guess.
Hi, I'm America. Have we met?
To be fair to Tim, I think he went to work as a door to door salesman in the deep south one summer to pay for college. That is as adventurous as a middle class kid spending a summer romping through European capitals sampling the nightlife.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Again, I suspect there's little demand for English speakers in India, given the few centuries of English colonial rule.
Doesn't really matter. India is still pretty cheap, Tim could just go there and not bother working :w00t:
The perfect way of spending a recession :D
(Also, does that follow? To get on in India you need to speak English, but knowing the language from childhood is surely the preserve of the elite?)
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Again, I suspect there's little demand for English speakers in India, given the few centuries of English colonial rule.
(Also, does that follow? To get on in India you need to speak English, but knowing the language from childhood is surely the preserve of the elite?)
Oh noes just 200 million pipple to choose from. Help us Timmay!
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Again, I suspect there's little demand for English speakers in India, given the few centuries of English colonial rule.
I would defiantly disagree with you however sad as it is the Indians fully agree.
(Do American and Canadian companies not have all their call centres in India like British and Irish ones?)
What about S.Korea?
I've heard there's a lot of demand there and its a lot more Japan than China.
Quote from: Tyr on July 21, 2009, 04:56:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 21, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Japan is old hat, I reckon Tim should give China a go.
Or maybe India; they play cricket in India and it is a pleasingly chaotic and individualistic place, OTOH you can't drink the water :huh:
Again, I suspect there's little demand for English speakers in India, given the few centuries of English colonial rule.
I would defiantly disagree with you however sad as it is the Indians fully agree.
(Do American and Canadian companies not have all their call centres in India like British and Irish ones?)
What do you disagree with? There are so many English epakers in India they do not need to import any more.
Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
What do you disagree with? There are so many English epakers in India they do not need to import any more.
That they don't need to import any more.
Nominally hundreds of millions speak English. They absolutely murder the tongue though.
I'm 29 and I've yet to explore the world. Maybe next year I'll finally do it. ^_^
I wouldn't mind going to South Korea or Taiwan.
:lol: My Mom: South Korea! That's too close to North Korea. That guy's crazy, all he has to do is invade South Korea!!!11
Quote from: alfred russel on July 21, 2009, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 21, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: The Larch on July 21, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
I shudder to think at how sheltered and coccooned your life must have been (understandable due to your past condition) to get piqued to get out and see the world only at 20 something, after finishing university and thanks to a cozy family cruise through the Caribbean.
Better late than never, I guess.
Hi, I'm America. Have we met?
To be fair to Tim, I think he went to work as a door to door salesman in the deep south one summer to pay for college. That is as adventurous as a middle class kid spending a summer romping through European capitals sampling the nightlife.
I did it for two summers! I wrecked two cars, got grabbed by a knife wielding wackjob who threatened to cut my throat.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 07:05:23 PM
I did it for two summers! I wrecked two cars, got grabbed by a knife wielding wackjob who threatened to cut my throat.
That could have happened to you in Europe, plus you could have got laid. :frog:
Quote from: citizen k on July 21, 2009, 08:25:17 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 07:05:23 PM
I did it for two summers! I wrecked two cars, got grabbed by a knife wielding wackjob who threatened to cut my throat.
That could have happened to you in Europe, plus you could have got laid. :frog:
Alas, I could not drive to Europe in 15 hours.
I'm currently teaching English at a boy's high school in South Korea (and no, I'm not St. Jaba, Pitiful Pathos, or anyone else). I, like many other teachers here, only have a bachelors degree (in Int'l Relations), and no teaching experience. Fortunately, my coteachers have been a great help, both with getting settled (I speak very little Korean) and with teaching. I make my own lesson plans, and have quite a bit of leeway with what I teach - some teachers have to teach to a textbook. I'm probably better than most of the social rejects that come here, to be honest.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
How did you go about getting these jobs, contact schools directly or go through a recruiting service?
I went through the EPIK (http://www.epik.go.kr/) program - I applied, went through a week orientation (which helps prepares you psychologically), and then got my school. Your credentials are so good that you could easily get a university job, and you'll have to look for that on your own. I'd assume you could apply directly to the university. The top 3 universities in Korea are: Seoul National University, Korea University, and Yonsei University, all in Seoul. That's the Korean Ivy-League.
Additionally, in Korea there are also many hagwons, which are private institutes for after-school study. For these you'll need to go through a recruiter or find their ads and apply. The working hours are generally 2pm-10pm, and the pay is a little better. However, they are privately owned, and there are reports of them not paying teachers on time, or going bankrupt without warning, leaving you unemployed with an invalid visa (your visa only lets you teach at one place).
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Also, how hard is it for someone who doesn't know the language to get around, I'd imagine a lot harder than it is in Europe.
In Korea it's not too hard, once you get used to it. The Korean alphabet, Hangeul, is pretty easy to learn, and English signs are ubiquitous. Most Koreans still can't speak English very well, but they're a very friendly people and I haven't had any problems in the 5 months I've been here.
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What about S.Korea?
I've heard there's a lot of demand there and its a lot more Japan than China.
Demand is huge. Plus it pays better than China, but is less expensive than Japan. You can easily save money here, even in Seoul.
If you have any more questions, just ask. I skipped the last 5 pages of this thread, so I might have missed something.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 21, 2009, 08:31:35 PM
If you have any more questions, just ask. I skipped the last 5 pages of this thread, so I might have missed something.
My Mom's afraid I'll get killed by Kim Jong Il :D
How's the social scene?
Can you give a short description of an average lesson?
When's the school year begin?
Another thing to keep in mind Timotino is that Koreans (like all Asians) are pretty racist; you might not score as much cooter as random haole dude.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2009, 09:20:49 PM
Another thing to keep in mind Timotino is that Koreans (like all Asians) are pretty racist; you might not score as much cooter as random haole dude.
Crap!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 09:13:40 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 21, 2009, 08:31:35 PM
If you have any more questions, just ask. I skipped the last 5 pages of this thread, so I might have missed something.
My Mom's afraid I'll get killed by Kim Jong Il :D
He's an old man with cancer. I'm sure you can kick his ass.
QuoteHow's the social scene?
Pretty good, at least in the cities. Bars and noraebangs (aka Korean karaoke) are everywhere. I don't really bother with dance clubs, so I don't know about them. Seoul especially has great nightlife.
Koreans love to drink, so anytime you go out with your fellow teachers, you'll usually have some soju or beer at a restaurant, followed by time at a bar, then singing at a noraebang. It's great fun.
QuoteCan you give a short description of an average lesson?
You can expect about 40 students per class in elementary through high school. For my class, I start off with a greeting, plus a "how did you do on your midterm" chitchat. Then its usually a powerpoint introduction to the topic. Next is an activity or, if I'm uncreative, a worksheet. Last comes presentations, where each group, or one student from each group, comes up and speaks in front of the class. They just love that last part. :menace:
I also try to throw a short, relevant video clip in during the introduction.
I have 14 regular classes a week (all freshmen), plus 3 teacher's discussion classes (real easy, lots of fun), 1 after school class, and 3 or 4 classes of juniors. Total of 21-22 classroom hours a week. School starts at 8:20 (first period at 8:40), and ends at 4:20.
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When's the school year begin?
Begins in March, ends in February. Summer vacation starts end of July, runs through August, and winter starts late December, runs through early Feb. I believe they go to school for like a week or two in Feb. One drawback to teaching non-university here is that you'll have to do a week or two of vacation camp classes. Mine starts next week, and will be with 14 students, all with high levels of English ability.
Also, depending on the school, you might have to teach a class every other Saturday - I don't, some teachers do.
Hmbob! You shifty sob, missed it when you said you were going over there
Guys with a history degree could even have a shot (altough not sure with what chances) at getting some opportunities at Hungarian universities/colleges.
Edit: or not because those are doctors
Sadly, I could not gather up any info on where to start looking, but if there is info on google, it has to be in English as well, so start searching if you are interested.
Teaching English as a foreign language is big business in the UK btw. Though, if you wanted to work here, the pay is probably higher if you enter a mainstream school.
Quote from: katmai on July 22, 2009, 12:57:14 AM
Hmbob! You shifty sob, missed it when you said you were going over there
I'm a ninja poster. Blink and you'll miss them. :ph34r:
Do any Asian countries still use the cane?
Lots of Hong Kong schools employ native English speakers. I met a couple when I was a kid.
Quote from: The Brain on July 22, 2009, 04:31:47 AM
Do any Asian countries still use the cane?
Korea still does, though not as often as it used to, and I think it's officially not allowed.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 22, 2009, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 22, 2009, 04:31:47 AM
Do any Asian countries still use the cane?
Korea still does, though not as often as it used to, and I think it's officially not allowed.
Tim, you have to go to Korea. For all of us.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
I wouldn't mind going to South Korea or Taiwan.
:lol: My Mom: South Korea! That's too close to North Korea. That guy's crazy, all he has to do is invade South Korea!!!11
I must admit that would be my concern with S.Korea too. It is quite a real threat, N.Korea is just that crazy and with old Kimmy on his way out...
At the least I wouldn't live in Seoul- the fact about the N.Korean artilery being in range of it is scary.
But myeh, the bigger concern is its so far away, so expensive to get there and so near yet so far from Japan.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2009, 09:20:49 PM
Another thing to keep in mind Timotino is that Koreans (like all Asians) are pretty racist;
I know, just look at that Admiral Yi guy.
What do you say about that Bob, as bad as some people say?
Everything you need to know about Japan is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo-gGes6qig
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 22, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2009, 09:20:49 PM
Another thing to keep in mind Timotino is that Koreans (like all Asians) are pretty racist;
I know, just look at that Admiral Yi guy.
What do you say about that Bob, as bad as some people say?
I've never experienced anything, but then I'm an ordinary white boy. If you're blonde, especially with blue eyes, you'll be a huge celebrity and people will openly stare at you (but in a curious way).
I know two black girls teaching here. One's complained that Koreans will sometimes stare at her and whisper behind her back (mostly young/teen girls, apparently) and has complained generally about discrimination, but I haven't heard of any real discrimination from the other. The former also has a Korean boyfriend. Also, while Korean girls generally don't have much problems dating foreigners, their parents and old people might.
In any event, you'll experience far less in Seoul, Incheon, and maybe Busan than in smaller cities and the countryside.
FYI, Tim looks pretty white, except to Neil.
I would probably pass as white in most Asian countries as well.
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
Why is it that some people on this board seem to insist that I'm more interested in one area than the other? Between the Catalonia and Tibet I'm an equal opportunity fetishist, and outside of that I still have a lot of interests.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 22, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 22, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2009, 09:20:49 PM
Another thing to keep in mind Timotino is that Koreans (like all Asians) are pretty racist;
I know, just look at that Admiral Yi guy.
What do you say about that Bob, as bad as some people say?
I've never experienced anything, but then I'm an ordinary white boy. If you're blonde, especially with blue eyes, you'll be a huge celebrity and people will openly stare at you (but in a curious way).
I know two black girls teaching here. One's complained that Koreans will sometimes stare at her and whisper behind her back (mostly young/teen girls, apparently) and has complained generally about discrimination, but I haven't heard of any real discrimination from the other. The former also has a Korean boyfriend. Also, while Korean girls generally don't have much problems dating foreigners, their parents and old people might.
In any event, you'll experience far less in Seoul, Incheon, and maybe Busan than in smaller cities and the countryside.
Well, I'm not blond, but I have green eyes and like Jaron says I look pretty white.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 22, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Also, while Korean girls generally don't have much problems dating foreigners, their parents and old people might.
That's alright I don't think Tim wants to date their parents or old people.
Quote from: Queequeg on July 22, 2009, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 21, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Just like Spellus should never visit the Middle East, you should never enter Japan. The massive gap between idealised expectations and harsh reality would be just too much of a shock.
Come to Hungary.
Why is it that some people on this board seem to insist that I'm more interested in one area than the other? Between the Catalonia and Tibet I'm an equal opportunity fetishist, and outside of that I still have a lot of interests.
Because it is incredibly fun to hammer you over it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Well, I'm not blond, but I have green eyes and like Jaron says I like pretty white.
:yes:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Well, I'm not blond
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodgoth.com%2F3180901.jpg&hash=08909053aa92e71e3d722ac5c7488a85ac115582)
recently visited with an old buddy who is teaching in Korea.
he told me that those nubile young women with knee high socks asking for private lessons at night is a myth.
I refuse to believe.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Well, I'm not blond, but I have green eyes and like Jaron says I like pretty white.
If you like pretty white, why are you going to Japan? :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Well, I'm not blond, but I have green eyes and like Jaron says I like pretty white.
Jaron probably thinks everyone looks white.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 23, 2009, 11:53:45 AM
If you like pretty white, why are you going to Japan? :P
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on July 23, 2009, 09:42:05 AM
That's alright I don't think Tim wants to date their parents or old people.
He should. That's where the monies at.
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
I was looking at a corporation that hooks you up with Japanese Universities. Looked good, paid for the flight, paid for housing, etc. Read a little further on and they want you to teach 7 classes a day. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
I was looking at a corporation that hooks you up with Japanese Universities. Looked good, paid for the flight, paid for housing, etc. Read a little further on and they want you to teach 7 classes a day. <_<
That happens a lot the big reputable "language mills" the most you would do might be 7 (1/2 hr-1hr at most for any class more than like 50 minutes is rare.)
... I often did that. there be 4 that were the same one, likely only 2 or 3 lesson plans a day.
not that hard.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
I was looking at a corporation that hooks you up with Japanese Universities. Looked good, paid for the flight, paid for housing, etc. Read a little further on and they want you to teach 7 classes a day. <_<
That might add up to...what...an 8-hour work day? ZOMG
I used to have 10 classes per day in Hong Kong. Most teachers in my school taught 35-40 classes per week, about 7 classes per day (on average).
I'm disappointed with the advice being given in this thread. I mean, you people are actually telling Tim how NOT to get shot or abducted? It's Tim, for chrissakes. Do we really want a new flood of his enthusiastic threads he is sure to start gushing up in some foreign country?
Someone has to fight the Languish tide of cynicism, negativity, and chronic apathy.
I like Tim.
Tim's cool.
Quote from: katmai on July 31, 2009, 06:18:52 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2009, 06:16:59 AM
Tim's cool.
:yeahright:
That's how the young'uns speak nowadays Kat. When they say "wicked" they mean "rather good", which is more or less the opposite. So when GF says that Tim is "cool" he means that Tim is "hot"..... OMG!!!, GF must be gay!
:lol:
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 31, 2009, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
I was looking at a corporation that hooks you up with Japanese Universities. Looked good, paid for the flight, paid for housing, etc. Read a little further on and they want you to teach 7 classes a day. <_<
That happens a lot the big reputable "language mills" the most you would do might be 7 (1/2 hr-1hr at most for any class more than like 50 minutes is rare.)
... I often did that. there be 4 that were the same one, likely only 2 or 3 lesson plans a day.
not that hard.
Oh, the most you'd teach hear is 4 or 5 lessons a day tops. How detailed were these lesson plans and how long did it take to put them together?
These places ask you for shitloads of documents and when you try to email with them it's too big and their email system bounces you back. <_<
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 31, 2009, 06:16:59 AM
Tim's cool.
The cool thing about Tim is that he doesn't care that he's not cool. :tao:
Quote from: Queequeg on July 22, 2009, 08:26:30 PM
Why is it that some people on this board seem to insist that I'm more interested in one area than the other? Between the Catalonia and Tibet I'm an equal opportunity fetishist, and outside of that I still have a lot of interests.
This is a bit delayed, but why do your interests have to be fetishes? :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
This is a bit delayed, but why do your interests have to be fetishes? :unsure:
I'm sincerely hoping he's using the word "fetish" loosely, and not saying he can't get it up without thinking of Persia or Tibet.
Quote from: ulmont on July 31, 2009, 02:41:55 PMI'm sincerely hoping he's using the word "fetish" loosely, and not saying he can't get it up without thinking of Persia or Tibet.
Given that it's Spellus, it's hard to tell.
His biography of Khosrau I is sticky with the pages stuck together.
Spellus: FUCK ME HARDER MY KING OF KINGS!
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: ulmont on July 31, 2009, 02:41:55 PMI'm sincerely hoping he's using the word "fetish" loosely, and not saying he can't get it up without thinking of Persia or Tibet.
Given that it's Spellus, it's hard to tell.
You totally know he's done lines of coke modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
You know, that would be totally hott. :lol:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
I'd be shocked if Spellus has ever come anywhere near lines of coke (which I assume is what you meant when you said 'crack', which is smoked dude).
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
I'd be shocked if Spellus has ever come anywhere near lines of coke (which I assume is what you meant when you said 'crack', which is smoked dude).
You're right, I don't know why I wrote that.
But hasn't Spellus admitted experimenting with coke?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
I'd be shocked if Spellus has ever come anywhere near lines of coke (which I assume is what you meant when you said 'crack', which is smoked dude).
You're right, I don't know why I wrote that.
But hasn't Spellus admitted experimenting with coke?
Could be. For a while he displayed quite a bit of enthusiasm for illegal drugs. <_<
Quote from: Barrister on July 31, 2009, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
I'd be shocked if Spellus has ever come anywhere near lines of coke (which I assume is what you meant when you said 'crack', which is smoked dude).
You're right, I don't know why I wrote that.
But hasn't Spellus admitted experimenting with coke?
Could be. For a while he displayed quite a bit of enthusiasm for illegal drugs. <_<
That explains the 3rd graders robbing him.
Quote from: Barrister on July 31, 2009, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
You totally know he's done lines of crack modeled after Zoroastrian symbols off of a Persian girls ass.
I'd be shocked if Spellus has ever come anywhere near lines of coke (which I assume is what you meant when you said 'crack', which is smoked dude).
You're right, I don't know why I wrote that.
But hasn't Spellus admitted experimenting with coke?
Could be. For a while he displayed quite a bit of enthusiasm for illegal drugs. <_<
Better Living Through Chemistry.
I am getting responses from my applications.
Westgate (Corporation that hires English teachers for Japanese Universities) said they are reviewing my application.
YBM (private korean school) seems very positive. As in send document xyz and in your in vibe.
Should I tell them I'm evaluating multiple offers? They don't need me to start until Sept 29th so I don't think it should be a problem.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 08:45:12 AM
Should I tell them I'm evaluating multiple offers?
I don't see why that would hurt.
Quote from: Caliga on August 04, 2009, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 08:45:12 AM
Should I tell them I'm evaluating multiple offers?
I don't see why that would hurt.
Sound good?
Quote
I should note that I have sent out applications to multiple educational institutes in South Korea and Japan and others have responded favorably. I'm sure you understand that I wish to carefully way the options before me. The other institutions I've contacted have start dates similar to yours or even earlier and as such I expect it won't be too long before I can make a firm decision on which company to choose. If you have a deadline by which time I must make a decision, please contact me ASAP and I will take that into consideration.
I've never signed a contract before. Seem standard?
http://www.ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=sample
Do you need to pay Korean AND US taxes?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:52:08 AM
I've never signed a contract before. Seem standard?
http://www.ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=sample
[Disclaimer]I know nothing of Korean employment law, so anything I say is not as a lawyer[/Disclaimer]
Check out the "EEC policies and regulations", incorporated by reference in subsection 6.3. If there is going to be a nasty surprise, that's where it will be, most likely.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
I should note that I have sent out applications to multiple educational institutes in South Korea and Japan and others have responded favorably. I'm sure you understand that I wish to carefully way the options before me. The other institutions I've contacted have start dates similar to yours or even earlier and as such I expect it won't be too long before I can make a firm decision on which company to choose. If you have a deadline by which time I must make a decision, please contact me ASAP and I will take that into consideration.
Meigh want to fix that.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 04, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
Do you need to pay Korean AND US taxes?
Read section 3.1
Quote from: Maximus on August 04, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
I should note that I have sent out applications to multiple educational institutes in South Korea and Japan and others have responded favorably. I'm sure you understand that I wish to carefully way the options before me. The other institutions I've contacted have start dates similar to yours or even earlier and as such I expect it won't be too long before I can make a firm decision on which company to choose. If you have a deadline by which time I must make a decision, please contact me ASAP and I will take that into consideration.
Meigh want to fix that.
Yikes, thanks.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 04, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
Do you need to pay Korean AND US taxes?
Read section 3.1
I did. And it did not answer my question. At least not clearly enough for me.
Good gawd the ECC policies are restrictived.
Also, only 1700$ a month?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:52:08 AM
I've never signed a contract before. Seem standard?
http://www.ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=sample
You may want to talk to a lawyer about things, get some feedback on this. Not that it looks tricky, just that it's so new to you and you're asking us about it. Wouldn't want to see you get stuck with some problem. Taxes and such, or what ever else could be issues.
In any event, good luck with this if you take a job! A guy I work with did this in Japan, taught English, and he enjoyed it.
Though you'll have to keep in touch on the forums of course! :)
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 04, 2009, 10:07:20 AM
Good gawd the ECC policies are restrictived.
Also, only 1700$ a month?
They pay for Housing and 1/2 of health care. I wouldn't be making more in Japan unless a university hired me because I'd have to pay for housing.
Also, where on that site does it list policy other than in the contract?
Alright.
Anyway, this is more about travelling then money, right?
http://ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=employee (http://ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=employee)
I didn't like this Part :
QuoteOne's personal attire, grooming and personal hygiene are extremely important in Korea. It is viewed as a reflection of self-respect and more importantly, respect to others. Teachers at all academies are expected to dress semi-formally while teaching. Men are required to wear ties, dress shirts and dress pants (Neatly pressed cotton or corduroy trousers are acceptable). Women are encouraged to wear dresses, skirts or dress pants. Skirts must touch the knees when standing. Clothing should not be too revealing. Low necklines and short skirts are not acceptable. Clothing that is sheer is also not acceptable. Jeans of any color, shorts, sleeveless shirts, sweatshirts, sweatpants are not allowed for both men and women. Teachers should wear appropriate shoes as sneakers/tennis shoes, hiking boots/shoes, slippers or sandals are not allowed. Women are allowed to wear appropriate dress sandals. During the months of July and August, polo style shirts (collared short-sleeved shirts) are acceptable for men and women. Exceptions will be made for field trips. Personal attire is considered part of professional conduct. If you are unsure of what is acceptable, ask your academic supervisor.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 04, 2009, 10:12:05 AM
Alright.
Anyway, this is more about travelling then money, right?
http://ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=employee (http://ybmecc.co.kr/index.asp?sub1=employee)
I didn't like this Part :
QuoteOne's personal attire, grooming and personal hygiene are extremely important in Korea. It is viewed as a reflection of self-respect and more importantly, respect to others. Teachers at all academies are expected to dress semi-formally while teaching. Men are required to wear ties, dress shirts and dress pants (Neatly pressed cotton or corduroy trousers are acceptable). Women are encouraged to wear dresses, skirts or dress pants. Skirts must touch the knees when standing. Clothing should not be too revealing. Low necklines and short skirts are not acceptable. Clothing that is sheer is also not acceptable. Jeans of any color, shorts, sleeveless shirts, sweatshirts, sweatpants are not allowed for both men and women. Teachers should wear appropriate shoes as sneakers/tennis shoes, hiking boots/shoes, slippers or sandals are not allowed. Women are allowed to wear appropriate dress sandals. During the months of July and August, polo style shirts (collared short-sleeved shirts) are acceptable for men and women. Exceptions will be made for field trips. Personal attire is considered part of professional conduct. If you are unsure of what is acceptable, ask your academic supervisor.
Same thing I wear when I teach here.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 04, 2009, 10:07:20 AM
Good gawd the ECC policies are restrictived.
Also, only 1700$ a month?
I have a feeling he may make more if he works in HK. But then HK is also more expensive.
http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeid=1301&langno=1
Check this out. This site is from the official HK government.
QuoteThe salary scale of GM is from around HK$22,985 to HK$48,400 (*approx. US$2,946 to 6,205) per month (12 months a year). Candidates with a PGDE or equivalent (not TEFL/TESL) qualifications will enter at HK$25,320 (approx. *US$3,246) per month. Those without a local PGDE or equivalent will not be permitted to proceed beyond a salary bar which is at present set at HK$29,235 (approx. *US$3,748) per month. The pay point of the salary bar is under review and any revision will be announced by the Education Bureau in due course.
Plus, we have low taxes :contract:
Quote from: Monoriu on August 04, 2009, 10:39:11 AM
http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeid=1301&langno=1
Check this out. This site is from the official HK government.
QuoteThe salary scale of GM is from around HK$22,985 to HK$48,400 (*approx. US$2,946 to 6,205) per month (12 months a year). Candidates with a PGDE or equivalent (not TEFL/TESL) qualifications will enter at HK$25,320 (approx. *US$3,246) per month. Those without a local PGDE or equivalent will not be permitted to proceed beyond a salary bar which is at present set at HK$29,235 (approx. *US$3,748) per month. The pay point of the salary bar is under review and any revision will be announced by the Education Bureau in due course.
Plus, we have low taxes :contract:
I don't care about the money Mono, I won't have any major expenses so the money offered by YBM is sufficient.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 10:50:39 AM
I don't care about the money Mono, I won't have any major expenses so the money offered by YBM is sufficient.
If you want to own your place at some point in the future, now is the time to start saving for the downpayment.
These teaching posts are on the same pay scale as civil servants. MPS = master pay scale. There are 49 points on it. 17-33 means you are paid at point 17 in your first year, 18 in your second, and so on. There will no longer be increments granted when you reach point 33 (HK48,400). Unless you secure a promotion.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 31, 2009, 07:55:05 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 31, 2009, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Be careful with recruiters. sometimes very shady
"sometimes"? :lol:
I was looking at a corporation that hooks you up with Japanese Universities. Looked good, paid for the flight, paid for housing, etc. Read a little further on and they want you to teach 7 classes a day. <_<
That happens a lot the big reputable "language mills" the most you would do might be 7 (1/2 hr-1hr at most for any class more than like 50 minutes is rare.)
... I often did that. there be 4 that were the same one, likely only 2 or 3 lesson plans a day.
not that hard.
Oh, the most you'd teach hear is 4 or 5 lessons a day tops. How detailed were these lesson plans and how long did it take to put them together?
at a big company it's all laid out for you... you only need to go over the lesson, tweak it a bit with props etc. not more than a few minutes a week per lesson.
Did you ever teach your Jap students incorrect phrases just to amuse yourself?
"In America, we call hanbagu 'Cleveland Steamers'. So make sure you ask the waiter for a Cleveland Steamer whenever you order one!"
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2009, 02:45:27 PM
His biography of Khosrau I is sticky with the pages stuck together.
Spellus: FUCK ME HARDER MY KING OF KINGS!
:lmfao:
I got nose diet coke all over my super-cheap pizza thanks to that.
QuoteGiven that it's Spellus, it's hard to tell.
Mixing history and.....various other interests comes pretty naturally, but I don't think that is that uncommon. It is a history geek's slash fiction. Replace Starship Voyager with Circassian slavegirls in Kanuni Sultan Süleyman'ın haremi and you get the same basic idea. Even though I especially like girls from my areas of interest, that's to be expected as the first few girls I ever had crushes on were all Ashkenazim or mixed Ashkenazim, and Armenians, Persians, Turks, Greeks and Italians can all look Jewish (especially Armenians, Turks and Italians, who are supposedly very closely related to Ashkenazim genetically).
That said, the idea of snorting a Faravahar off a Persian girl's ass is magnificent, if a little impractical. It is a really hard symbol to draw at the best of times, I don't know how you'd get it with any degree of accuracy on a woman's ass with cocaine.
Yet another school shows interest in me. :ph34r:
EDIT: Also, answer my messages Bob.
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
:yeahright:
QuoteWill they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
Pretty sure thaire mostly looking for infectious diseases.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
I also had a physical exam when I started work. The only purpose seems to be to keep some doctors employed. They checked my weight, height, and whether I was colour blind. No blood or urine tests.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 06, 2009, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
:yeahright:
QuoteWill they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
Pretty sure thaire mostly looking for infectious diseases.
Them as in the Koreans, a hospital will do it for the Immigration service.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 06, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
I also had a physical exam when I started work. The only purpose seems to be to keep some doctors employed. They checked my weight, height, and whether was I colour blind. No blood or urine tests.
You don't work in Korea.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 09:00:16 PM
Them as in the Koreans, a hospital will do it for the Immigration service.
The Koreans will be a physical?
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 04, 2009, 10:07:20 AM
Good gawd the ECC policies are restrictived.
Also, only 1700$ a month?
The one I'm looking at will pay me the princly sum of $1800 plus housing and 1/2 health insurance! :blurgh:
EDIT: Also, Yi, stop being difficult.
You already said that Tim.
Farewell, little Timmy. Best of luck.
Quote from: Jaron on August 06, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
Farewell, little Timmy. Best of luck.
Haven't been hired yet, but it looks promising.
I had to do a physical in China. They were looking for infectious diseases. They took my blood, x-rays, even did an ultrasound IIRC. the strange thing was, there were about 10 fascinated Chinese in the room staring at me for each step of the procedure. :lol:
I have been offered a contract. :ph34r:
Holy shit! I know you can play lots of tricks with camera angles but the apartment offered looks way better than I'd imagined.
Wooo means we get rid of timmay from languish i'm all for it!!
Quote from: katmai on August 07, 2009, 12:12:32 AM
Wooo means we get rid of timmay from languish i'm all for it!!
Bob still posts.
Yi, can you read Korean?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 06, 2009, 08:58:40 PM
QuoteWill they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
Pretty sure thaire mostly looking for infectious diseases.
If they're paying for half his healthcare, they may look for possible liabilities.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Seems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
Will they see something else that's huge?
:cheers:
Congrats Tim, but are you sure you're cut out to teach english? :P
Quote from: alfred russel on August 07, 2009, 07:22:30 AM
Congrats Tim, but are you sure you're cut out to teach english? :P
:lol:
His student's Engrish will be much super!
Seriously, congrats, Tim. Keep a diary and post frequently. :bowler:
I for one am interested in Timmay's adventures in drunkman land.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 07, 2009, 07:22:30 AM
Congrats Tim, but are you sure you're cut out to teach english? :P
Will be better than bmolsson's attempts:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fengrishfunny.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F07%2Fengrish-funny-do-you.jpg&hash=60213d6e663eb15785c3e67527f9b197ef1c9ca4)
:lol:
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 07, 2009, 11:47:44 AM
I for one am interested in Timmay's adventures in drunkman land.
Drunkman land?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 12:33:30 AM
Yi, can you read Korean?
I can sound it out as long as there aren't any Chinese characters. If you need a translation I can shoot it at my mom.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 07, 2009, 11:47:44 AM
I for one am interested in Timmay's adventures in drunkman land.
Drunkman land?
Besides college students and homeless people, I've never seen anyone get as drunk by 7 PM on a weeknight as a pack of Japanese businessmen. :beer:
Yeah, Asians kinda suck at metabolizing alcohol. Alot of the ones I know turn bright red. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:12:10 PM
Yeah, Asians kinda suck at metabolizing alcohol. Alot of the ones I know turn bright red. :blush:
Can we look forward to little Timmay taking advantage of tipsy Korean girl students? :D
Quote from: Savonarola on August 07, 2009, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 07, 2009, 11:47:44 AM
I for one am interested in Timmay's adventures in drunkman land.
Drunkman land?
Besides college students and homeless people, I've never seen anyone get as drunk by 7 PM on a weeknight as a pack of Japanese businessmen. :beer:
It's fun to do that every once in a while, but not every day.
@Mal Yes, I think we can.
Tim, tell them your leg scar was earned in blood at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. You shall be known as "Dear Savior Timmy-san", or whatever the fuck the Korean equivalent to "-san" is.
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:20:44 PM
@Mal Yes, I think we can.
Tim, tell them your leg scar was earned in blood at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. You shall be known as "Dear Savior Timmy-san", or whatever the fuck the Korean equivalent to "-san" is.
shi
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:20:44 PM
@Mal Yes, I think we can.
Tim, tell them your leg scar was earned in blood at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. You shall be known as "Dear Savior Timmy-san", or whatever the fuck the Korean equivalent to "-san" is.
:lol: They might have trouble with telling my age, but not that much.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:23:12 PM:lol: They might have trouble with telling my age, but not that much.
Tell them you were accidentally locked in a government cryonic thing in 1953, forgotten about, and just were released from it by two kids playing in a warehouse. Cross your fingers that they've never seen that lame Mel Gibson movie about that.
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:20:44 PM
@Mal Yes, I think we can.
We are well within our rights to demand pics, right?
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:20:44 PM
@Mal Yes, I think we can.
Tim, tell them your leg scar was earned in blood at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. You shall be known as "Dear Savior Timmy-san", or whatever the fuck the Korean equivalent to "-san" is.
No, no students for me.
College girls though :perv:
College girls aren't students? :huh:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 07, 2009, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 12:33:30 AM
Yi, can you read Korean?
I can sound it out as long as there aren't any Chinese characters. If you need a translation I can shoot it at my mom.
Sent you an email.
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:27:17 PM
College girls aren't students? :huh:
Not my students, the way you were talking made the whole thing sound very unethical.
:huh:
QuoteSeems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
:blink:
They're give teachers physicals?
How...odd. :unsure:
QuoteI had to do a physical in China. They were looking for infectious diseases. They took my blood, x-rays, even did an ultrasound IIRC. the strange thing was, there were about 10 fascinated Chinese in the room staring at me for each step of the procedure. :lol:
Aha. They want to take this opportunity to study a real westerner.
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:23:12 PM:lol: They might have trouble with telling my age, but not that much.
Tell them you were accidentally locked in a government cryonic thing in 1953, forgotten about, and just were released from it by two kids playing in a warehouse. Cross your fingers that they've never seen that lame Mel Gibson movie about that.
Just like Captain America but from a less cool war :w00t:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:30:13 PM
Sent you an email.
Jesus Hell Timmy, you sent me the Encyclopedia Britannica. :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 03:12:10 PM
Yeah, Asians kinda suck at metabolizing alcohol. Alot of the ones I know turn bright red. :blush:
I think one sip of beer will do that for me.
Quote from: Tyr on August 07, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
QuoteSeems they'll be a physical when I get over there.
Will they care that I had cancer? It was seven years ago, and while I've got a huge scar, it's not something that the students will ever see.
:blink:
They're give teachers physicals?
How...odd. :unsure:
QuoteI had to do a physical in China. They were looking for infectious diseases. They took my blood, x-rays, even did an ultrasound IIRC. the strange thing was, there were about 10 fascinated Chinese in the room staring at me for each step of the procedure. :lol:
Aha. They want to take this opportunity to study a real westerner.
I believe they give everyone physicals, not just teachers.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 07, 2009, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:30:13 PM
Sent you an email.
Jesus Hell Timmy, you sent me the Encyclopedia Britannica. :huh:
Just 13 pages of pdf, it's not my fault Korean characters take up so much space.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 07, 2009, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 03:30:13 PM
Sent you an email.
Jesus Hell Timmy, you sent me the Encyclopedia Britannica. :huh:
Just 13 pages of pdf, it's not my fault Korean characters take up so much space.
13 pages!? How much are you paying him? :lol:
All I got left is a short interview over the phone and I'm in.
I was at Staples getting paper yesterday and I checked out the outlet adapters. There was one set for $29.99 that had adapters for a slew of countries including Japan. However South Korea was not listed, would it work there?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 09, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
All I got left is a short interview over the phone and I'm in.
I was at Staples getting paper yesterday and I checked out the outlet adapters. There was one set for $29.99 that had adapters for a slew of countries including Japan. However South Korea was not listed, would it work there?
The last time I was in S. Korea, the voltage is 220v, i.e. different from the 110v in the US. It is unlikely that your electricity appliances will work over there.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 09, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
All I got left is a short interview over the phone and I'm in.
I was at Staples getting paper yesterday and I checked out the outlet adapters. There was one set for $29.99 that had adapters for a slew of countries including Japan. However South Korea was not listed, would it work there?
The last time I was in S. Korea, the voltage is 220v, i.e. different from the 110v in the US. It is unlikely that your electricity appliances will work over there.
That's why I need an adapter. I want to know if an adapter that will work in Japan will work in S. Korea.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 10, 2009, 12:55:08 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 09, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
All I got left is a short interview over the phone and I'm in.
I was at Staples getting paper yesterday and I checked out the outlet adapters. There was one set for $29.99 that had adapters for a slew of countries including Japan. However South Korea was not listed, would it work there?
The last time I was in S. Korea, the voltage is 220v, i.e. different from the 110v in the US. It is unlikely that your electricity appliances will work over there.
That's why I need an adapter. I want to know if an adapter that will work in Japan will work in S. Korea.
No, they use different systems. Japan is the same as the US in terms of socket and voltage. S. Korea is different on both counts.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 12:57:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 10, 2009, 12:55:08 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 09, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
All I got left is a short interview over the phone and I'm in.
I was at Staples getting paper yesterday and I checked out the outlet adapters. There was one set for $29.99 that had adapters for a slew of countries including Japan. However South Korea was not listed, would it work there?
The last time I was in S. Korea, the voltage is 220v, i.e. different from the 110v in the US. It is unlikely that your electricity appliances will work over there.
That's why I need an adapter. I want to know if an adapter that will work in Japan will work in S. Korea.
No, they use different systems. Japan is the same as the US in terms of socket and voltage. S. Korea is different on both counts.
What about China, are they the same? It had one for China too.
I'd assumed that since Japan ruled Korea when electricity became mainstream they'd be the same. Weird.
China is 220v. As far as I can remember, China, Japan, S.Korea and HK all use different socket plugs.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 01:06:36 AM
China is 220v. As far as I can remember, China, Japan, S.Korea and HK all use different socket plugs.
Well crap.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 10, 2009, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 01:06:36 AM
China is 220v. As far as I can remember, China, Japan, S.Korea and HK all use different socket plugs.
Well crap.
You bought the adaptor?
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 10, 2009, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 10, 2009, 01:06:36 AM
China is 220v. As far as I can remember, China, Japan, S.Korea and HK all use different socket plugs.
Well crap.
You bought the adaptor?
No but, I saw it was good for Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore and maybe Thailand IIRC, but I didn't see any for S. Korea.
I'll have to scope out a couple of different places.
The thing is, I think it is very unlikely that a US$30 thing will convert the voltage. Even if you can adapt the plug you can't transform the voltage. I speak from experience - I've lived in both HK (220V) and Canada (110v) for years. Adapting the plug is easy. Transforming the voltage is tough.
It won't convert but something like 99% of stuff out there works in both 220 & 110 now.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 10, 2009, 06:14:25 AM
It won't convert but something like 99% of stuff out there works in both 220 & 110 now.
I once believed this. I received a rude wake up call when I plugged the 110v appliances that I bought in Canada into the sockets in Hong Kong (220v).
What do you need converters for? Buy everything when you get there. It's not like you're going to the Congo.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 10, 2009, 07:16:26 AM
What do you need converters for? Buy everything when you get there. It's not like you're going to the Congo.
That's what most people I knew who had lived in both Canada and HK did. It is possible to buy a slew of plug adaptors and voltage transformers, but it is too much hassle for most.
When I've been in the UK and Europe I've taken along some cheapo power converter I got at Radio Shack and everything I have plugged in worked just fine. :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on August 10, 2009, 07:26:37 AM
When I've been in the UK and Europe I've taken along some cheapo power converter I got at Radio Shack and everything I have plugged in worked just fine. :huh:
Same
Quote from: Caliga on August 10, 2009, 07:26:37 AM
When I've been in the UK and Europe I've taken along some cheapo power converter I got at Radio Shack and everything I have plugged in worked just fine. :huh:
It depends on the appliance. In my experience, laptops, battery chargers and electronic shavers almost always work. Desktop computers, printers, TVs, DVD players, desktop lamps and kitchen appliances don't. The general rule of thumb is the bigger the appliance, the less likely it will work in different voltages. Manufacturers don't expect people to carry large appliances around.
OMG is Tim going to South Korea a mere 6 months before the war starts? :o
Congrats, Tim, this should be a great adventure!
Make sure to nail me a Windows server admin job while you are there.
Well, the good news is that Tim will only flood the board on a weird time now.
Quote from: PDH on August 10, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Well, the good news is that Tim will only flood the board on a weird time now.
I'm going to start calling Tim 'Radar'.
:lmfao:
I will still call him Goddamn Fucktard Idiot.
Quote from: PDH on August 10, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Well, the good news is that Tim will only flood the board on a weird time now.
That is good news, for me at least, this board is very boring during Asian daylight hours. Me, Monoriu, some WoWtards, and a handful of Asia expats. Timmy can take bmo's place at posting weird stories during those times.
And Siegey's drunken postings.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 10, 2009, 09:12:19 AM
And Siegey's drunken postings.
Oh yeah, those can come at any time of the day.
Here's Tim in a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObboAchljE&feature=related
:D
(yeah yeah, Korea I know)
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 10, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
That is good news, for me at least, this board is very boring during Asian daylight hours. Me, Monoriu, some WoWtards, and a handful of Asia expats. Timmy can take bmo's place at posting weird stories during those times.
former WoWtard tyvm
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 09:46:42 AM
Here's Tim in a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObboAchljE&feature=related
:D
(yeah yeah, Korea I know)
:lol:
That's exactly how Thailand is as well, except not quite as high tech.
Though obviously the Japs have no idea what the dude is saying
The interview went well. :cool:
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 09:46:42 AM
Here's Tim in a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObboAchljE&feature=related
:D
(yeah yeah, Korea I know)
I hope there are more office ladies on whatever street I'm hammered on.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 10, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: PDH on August 10, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Well, the good news is that Tim will only flood the board on a weird time now.
That is good news, for me at least, this board is very boring during Asian daylight hours. Me, Monoriu, some WoWtards, and a handful of Asia expats. Timmy can take bmo's place at posting weird stories during those times.
Yeah, I miss most of the Tim-thread excitement the way things are now.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 10, 2009, 06:43:25 PM
The interview went well. :cool:
What'd they ask? Mine asked if I liked kids, and was ridiculously informal. :lol: And it was at a Korean embassy building in DC, too.
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 09:46:42 AM
Here's Tim in a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObboAchljE&feature=related
:D
(yeah yeah, Korea I know)
:lmfao:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on August 12, 2009, 04:15:59 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 10, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: PDH on August 10, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Well, the good news is that Tim will only flood the board on a weird time now.
That is good news, for me at least, this board is very boring during Asian daylight hours. Me, Monoriu, some WoWtards, and a handful of Asia expats. Timmy can take bmo's place at posting weird stories during those times.
What'd they ask? Mine asked if I liked kids, and was ridiculously informal. :lol: And it was at a Korean embassy building in DC, too.
It was over the phone, pretty basic stuff. What's my background and all that jazz.
They probably just want to make sure that you are a native English speaker, and that you don't have funny accents. When I was a pupil, I also had expats as English teachers. The only thing they were expected to do was to talk to us.
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 11:03:25 AM
They probably just want to make sure that you are a native English speaker, and that you don't have funny accents. When I was a pupil, I also had expats as English teachers. The only thing they were expected to do was to talk to us.
Bingo.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
I'll teach you some Korean.
Pyunso is bathroom.
Pabo is stupid (person).
Keseki is son of a bitch.
Yunguh halsooiseyo? Is do you speak English.
Yogwan e kachi kapshida. Is let's go to a motel together.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
I'll teach you some Korean.
Yogwan e kachi kapshida. Is let's go to a motel together.
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
I'll teach you some Korean.
Yogwan e kachi kapshida. Is let's go to a motel together.
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
Somebody is going to get rolled.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
I'll teach you some Korean.
Yogwan e kachi kapshida. Is let's go to a motel together.
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
Only if you like being robbed.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
If you're out boozing a motel might be more convenient.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
If you're out boozing a motel might be more convenient.
Yeah. They're pretty common too.
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Bob, or anyone else for that matter, anyone know of any good textbooks/software that teaches Korean for a reasonable price?
I'll teach you some Korean.
Yogwan e kachi kapshida. Is let's go to a motel together.
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
Only if you like being robbed.
That's what I thought he was implying, just making sure.
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Anyone who went over to make money is crazy. Sure you can save some, but not enough to justify going overseas for. I'm going over for the experience.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Anyone who went over to make money is crazy. Sure you can save some, but not enough to justify going overseas for. I'm going over for the experience.
:weep:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Anyone who went over to make money is crazy. Sure you can save some, but not enough to justify going overseas for. I'm going over for the yellow poontang.
Fixed.
Quote from: Queequeg on August 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Anyone who went over to make money is crazy. Sure you can save some, but not enough to justify going overseas for. I'm going over for the yellow poontang.
Fixed.
Actually, I was dating a Korean-American for over a month before I came here. :hide:
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
if you have yellow fever, it's sound economics to go to the source. :bowler:
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
I for one do not understand the fixation on your women, Mono. :hug:
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
please be no internet access
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2009, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
please be no internet access
Actually, he might be without internet access unless it's already set up in his apartment. It took me a few weeks to get it.
But on the other hand, there's plenty of PC rooms, so he won't be entirely without.
QuoteEverything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
Congrats! :cheers:
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2009, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
please be no internet access
No way :lol: I've read from multiple sources that Koreans have the cheapest internet connection in the world.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2009, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
please be no internet access
No way :lol: I've read from multiple sources that Koreans have the cheapest internet connection in the world.
But all our tubes are clogged by people playing Starcraft, Sudden Attack, and MMORPGs.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
Arrive where and for how long? Did I miss the details??
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
Grats Tim! This will be a good experience for you! You have to keep in touch here too. And keep those thread starters going, someone has to do it.
Quote from: merithyn on September 22, 2009, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Everything is set, I arrive the 6th. :w00t:
Arrive where and for how long? Did I miss the details??
A year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwaseong_City
You gonna get lllllllllllllaiiiiid.
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Unless, of course, you don't want to buy a house when you get back.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
Why impossible? One cent at a time, you'll eventually get there. The important thing is to keep up hope, and don't blow your salary on useless stuff.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
Why impossible? One cent at a time, you'll eventually get there. The important thing is to keep up hope, and don't blow your salary on useless stuff.
Why would he want to?
Quote from: Neil on September 22, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
Why would he want to?
Even if he doesn't want to buy a house, it is a good idea to have a reasonable amount of savings.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Even if he doesn't want to buy a house, it is a good idea to have a reasonable amount of savings.
Sure...so then one should say that, not that bit about buying a house. I'm saving money and it isn't because I want to buy a house. I'm too...free-spirited for a house.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
Why impossible? One cent at a time, you'll eventually get there. The important thing is to keep up hope, and don't blow your salary on useless stuff.
The only way I could save for the down payment for a house on the salary I'll be paid is if I don't spend any money on anything food included.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
Why impossible? One cent at a time, you'll eventually get there. The important thing is to keep up hope, and don't blow your salary on useless stuff.
The only way I could save for the down payment for a house on the salary I'll be paid is if I don't spend any money on anything food included.
Move to Detroit. Houses for $1.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on August 12, 2009, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on August 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 12, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
I can't believe this. I thought you people are over there for the money. Yet all you talk about is finding a girl. *Sigh*
Anyone who went over to make money is crazy. Sure you can save some, but not enough to justify going overseas for. I'm going over for the yellow poontang.
Fixed.
Actually, I was dating a Korean-American for over a month before I came here. :hide:
This is actually the most common type of dude teaching in Asia. :contract:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You gotta save enough cash for a downpayment of a house back in the US.
Impossible, even if I wanted to.
not if you stay longer. One year goes fast dude. trust me. I saved just 10,000 (incl leaving bonus) CAD (at a time when when the CAD/USD were close to par!) in 12 months without going without any luxuries or amenities. First two years I just blew all my money all the time, but I wanted to have a cushion when I went back...
Also there's taxes to think about if you just stay one year you have to pay US tax on yr income when you get back. stay longer it ceases to be an issue. Very important thing that fucks up a lot of people.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
The only way I could save for the down payment for a house on the salary I'll be paid is if I don't spend any money on anything food included.
No one says you have to do it within one year.
I leave tonight! :w00t:
If United Airlines #167 to LA or Asiana #203 to Seoul goes down in flames say a prayer for me.
We expect full reportage of the weirdness of Korea.
QuoteQuote from: jimmy olsen on August 12, 2009, 06:11:48 pm
Quote
Bringing her back to my apartment is not recommended?
Only if you like being robbed.
That's a problem in Korea?
I've heard of that with Thailand, the Phillipines (a guy I know even got into a hostage situation via a girl in the Phillipines....) and other poorer parts of Asia but Korea?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 04, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
I leave tonight! :w00t:
If United Airlines #167 to LA or Asiana #203 to Seoul goes down in flames say a prayer for me.
I'll try to get Truman to give you those nukes you asked for. The rivers wÃll run red with yellow blood.
Good luck Tim.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 04, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
I leave tonight! :w00t:
If United Airlines #167 to LA or Asiana #203 to Seoul goes down in flames say a prayer for me.
You only have to worry about that if your airplane strays near
Soviet Russian airspace.
I eagerly await your AARs ;)
Good lord, Timmay's all grown up - and headed out. :D
I strongly suggest a visit to a Seoul real estate agent. At least an online one. HK real estate prices was a huge motivator for me.
Are you there yet?
Good luck Tim! Have fun storming the castle, and don't forget to write! :)
Some of you seem to have misread "Teaching English abroad" as "Teaching English to a broad". :P
awesome. I look forward to hearing your adventures in cheap knockoff watch & bag land.
Quote from: Brazen on October 06, 2009, 09:36:00 AM
Some of you seem to have misread "Teaching English abroad" as "Teaching English to a broad". :P
:lol:
Either way though, it's pretty exciting!
That was Buddha's problem when he was in Japan. He felt like he was a broad.
Quote from: Brazen on October 06, 2009, 09:36:00 AM
Some of you seem to have misread "Teaching English abroad" as "Teaching English to a broad". :P
That would take a truly cunning linguist. ;)
I don't get it.
Quote from: The Brain on October 06, 2009, 12:38:39 PM
I don't get it.
It's misogyny wrapped in a sexist enigma.
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me. -_-
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me. -_-
:woot:
Have you gotten laid yet?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me. -_-
:w00t:
Have you bought our
cheap, knock-off Christmas presents yet??
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 06, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me. -_-
:woot:
Have you gotten laid yet?
The girl I sat next on the plane over gave me her number. :)
I lost it. :(
EPIC FAIL
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 06, 2009, 11:57:05 AM
That was Buddha's problem when he was in Japan. He felt like he was a broad.
I made that joke often, actually, at the time. :p
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 06, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me. -_-
:woot:
Have you gotten laid yet?
The girl I sat next on the plane over gave me her number. :)
I lost it. :(
D'oh. Please AAR your training, and post lots o' pix. Have fun!
Have fun Timothy. Facebook me sometime, if they lighten up net security.
What's your blog address? :)
The people so far have been very friendly.
The city was very modern, however the rural area I'm in is a bit run down and dirty, reminds me the Carolinas. I like my apartment though and the school's new. I like my coworkers. The place is a mad house though, if this is typical of Korean schools, wow.
In class they're about the same or worse talking wise as back home, but there's a lot more physical contact and rough housing between students. There's a ten minute break between each period, which is way to long, and predictably leads to them running amok in the hallway yelling. They get an hour off for lunch and it's like Lord of the Flies out there. Not my problem though so I don't care.
QuoteIn class they're about the same or worse talking wise as back home, but there's a lot more physical contact and rough housing between students. There's a ten minute break between each period, which is way to long, and predictably leads to them running amok in the hallway yelling. They get an hour off for lunch and it's like Lord of the Flies out there. Not my problem though so I don't care.
Yeah, that's all very true. :lol:
There's also all the hugging, sitting on each other's laps, and so on.
They're also all very dorky.
I just realized you'll be starting halfway through the second semester. That should be interesting!
QuoteThe place is a mad house though, if this is typical of Korean schools, wow.
If you mean chaotic between classes, or things being decided at the last minute, or them being unprepared for you, then yes, that's typical.
He's alive! :w00t:
No...wait.....:unsure:
QuoteThe city was very modern, however the rural area I'm in is a bit run down and dirty, reminds me the Carolinas. I like my apartment though and the school's new. I like my coworkers. The place is a mad house though, if this is typical of Korean schools, wow.
Your coworkers all speak English or is this just the other English teaching folk?
There's a lot of foreigners?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
The city was very modern, however the rural area I'm in is a bit run down and dirty, reminds me the Carolinas.
<_<
Quote from: Tyr on October 07, 2009, 05:00:42 AM
He's alive! :w00t:
No...wait.....:unsure:
QuoteThe city was very modern, however the rural area I'm in is a bit run down and dirty, reminds me the Carolinas. I like my apartment though and the school's new. I like my coworkers. The place is a mad house though, if this is typical of Korean schools, wow.
Your coworkers all speak English or is this just the other English teaching folk?
There's a lot of foreigners?
I mean the other English teachers. Mr. Han took me to a driving range, a restaruant and a pool hall last night.
QuoteThey're also all very dorky.
Indeed, the dork factor is sky high. Subtelty in glasses design has not reached this side of the pacific.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
I'm here and my kidney's are still with me.
Please don't teach them your grammar.
The most important thing Tim can teach them is the confidence to speak English, and to speak it even if it means making mistakes.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 07, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
The most important thing Tim can teach them is the confidence to speak English, and to speak it even if it means making mistakes.
:face: A rare Mono smackdown.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 07, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
The most important thing Tim can teach them is the confidence to speak English, and to speak it even if it means making mistakes.
That was the hardest thing to do in Japan. They want so hard to do it right every time, they don't speak aloud nearly enough.
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 03:15:19 AM
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
Shocking that the Chinese didn't circumnavigate the world back in the early 15th century when they had the means to do so. -_-
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 03:15:19 AM
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
I wonder what else languish can convince people to do....
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 05:31:32 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 03:15:19 AM
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
Shocking that the Chinese didn't circumnavigate the world back in the early 15th century when they had the means to do so. -_-
Yeah, I always find that amazing. Especially that finding the Americas would have likely been fairly easy just by following the coastline along Siberia to Alaska and on southward, of course preferably in summer. Just the curiosity to find out what else was out there.
I was being sarcastic in my reply to Mono. ;)
Basically his attitude explains WHY the Chinese did not even though they had the means to do so. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 09:54:10 AM
I was being sarcastic in my reply to Mono. ;)
Basically his attitude explains WHY the Chinese did not even though they had the means to do so. :cool:
I figured, but still, even with the rationale/reasons why the Chinese (or Japanese) didn't make such travels still surprises me somewhat.
Quote from: KRonn on October 08, 2009, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 09:54:10 AM
I was being sarcastic in my reply to Mono. ;)
Basically his attitude explains WHY the Chinese did not even though they had the means to do so. :cool:
I figured, but still, even with the rationale/reasons why the Chinese (or Japanese) didn't make such travels still surprises me somewhat.
That's because you're looking at it from your own point of view. Think of the Chinese like your average American. They don't know much about the outside world, and they don't want to. They feel that everywhere else in the world is inferior, so why bother to learn about them? And they maintained that viewpoint right up to the time that the civilized world dismantled their country.
Quote from: Neil on October 08, 2009, 10:09:38 AM
That's because you're looking at it from your own point of view. Think of the Chinese like your average American. They don't know much about the outside world, and they don't want to. They feel that everywhere else in the world is inferior, so why bother to learn about them? And they maintained that viewpoint right up to the time that the civilized world dismantled their country.
Nice try, but the lack of concern of our general population doesn't stop us from exploiting the ROTW when we see an opportunity. We're more like the British than the Chinese. :contract:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 08, 2009, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: Neil on October 08, 2009, 10:09:38 AM
That's because you're looking at it from your own point of view. Think of the Chinese like your average American. They don't know much about the outside world, and they don't want to. They feel that everywhere else in the world is inferior, so why bother to learn about them? And they maintained that viewpoint right up to the time that the civilized world dismantled their country.
Nice try, but the lack of concern of our general population doesn't stop us from exploiting the ROTW when we see an opportunity. We're more like the British than the Chinese. :contract:
Incorrect. While the American elite is certainly able to take advantage of international sentiment and situations, and is able to locate Great Britain on a map, the great mass of the American people are not. Thus, the average American is like the Chinese, except without the willingness to work.
Quote from: Neil on October 08, 2009, 10:26:01 AM
Incorrect. While the American elite is certainly able to take advantage of international sentiment and situations, and is able to locate Great Britain on a map, the great mass of the American people are not. Thus, the average American is like the Chinese, except without the willingness to work.
:huh: The average American may well be ignorant, but I don't recall hearing the accusation that the average American is lazy.
:lol:
Well, as long as our elites know where Britain is, they can point some missiles there and keep them from dismantling the country. ;)
The problem with Imperial China is that their words could not be backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS. :yes: :(
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 10:30:02 AMThe average American may well be ignorant, but I don't recall hearing the accusation that the average American is lazy.
http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/american_children_like_me_are
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 03:15:19 AM
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
That's a pretty standard timeline in my experience. I waited a bit longer (5 months between applying, and going) because I was trying to save some cash first, and had a complex financial situation to get cleared up) but I could have easily gone in three months. The Korean companies that were interested for example were all like: "Can you come next Thursday?"
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 10:31:39 AM
The problem with Imperial China is that their words could not be backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS. :yes: :(
:tinfoil: Could not, or would not?
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 05:31:32 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 03:15:19 AM
The first post of this thread was dated 21 July, and at that time Tim had yet to make up his mind on this. Less than 3 months later and he is already in South Korea. I still can't believe he is doing this just to fulfill his "urge to see the world".
Shocking that the Chinese didn't circumnavigate the world back in the early 15th century when they had the means to do so. -_-
You guys make Zheng He cry. :cry:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.childbook.com%2Fv%2Fvspfiles%2Fphotos%2FAB0155-2T.jpg&hash=77cb91f063b22dead6a8c9608b9106e5a5ac5925)
I had him in mind... he COULD have circumnavigated the world, easily, and may well have done so had not the Emperor decided exploration was a total waste of time and ended Zheng He's expeditions.
Quote from: KRonn on October 08, 2009, 09:37:30 AM
Yeah, I always find that amazing. Especially that finding the Americas would have likely been fairly easy just by following the coastline along Siberia to Alaska and on southward, of course preferably in summer. Just the curiosity to find out what else was out there.
The Chinese instinct is to go South. Which is pretty understandable. In the north, all they find is ice, snow, wilderness, land not suitable for farming, and hostile nomads on horses. In the south, they find trading partners, exotic riches, and a much more hospitable climate.
Ahh, the old southern search for poon.
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
I had him in mind... he COULD have circumnavigated the world, easily, and may well have done so had not the Emperor decided exploration was a total waste of time and ended Zheng He's expeditions.
Just one nitpick - the emperor did not stop *him*. He died on his last voyage. Afterwards, the emperor said he would not sponsor any more voyages.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 08, 2009, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
I had him in mind... he COULD have circumnavigated the world, easily, and may well have done so had not the Emperor decided exploration was a total waste of time and ended Zheng He's expeditions.
Just one nitpick - the emperor did not stop *him*. He died on his last voyage. Afterwards, the emperor said he would not sponsor any more voyages.
Different Emperor wasn't it? The one who supported Zheng He died, and his successor thought it was a waste of time and money to carry on, or so I recall.
Quote from: Agelastus on October 08, 2009, 07:56:59 PM
Different Emperor wasn't it? The one who supported Zheng He died, and his successor thought it was a waste of time and money to carry on, or so I recall.
Zheng He had 7 voyages. The first 6 were supported by the third Ming emperor. The 4th emperor died after ruling for like a few months. The 5th emperor sponsored the 7th voyage, and it was on this voyage that Zheng He died. Afterwards the emperor said no more voyages.
yeah, Mono is right. :blush:
Other fun facts about Zheng He:
* He was a Muslim.
* His balls were cut off (i.e. court eunuch).
Quote from: Caliga on October 08, 2009, 08:37:48 PM
yeah, Mono is right. :blush:
Other fun facts about Zheng He:
* He was a Muslim.
* His balls were cut off (i.e. court eunuch).
Well, that explains why he'd be willing to go away on long ocean voyages. No drinking and no sex would make for pretty boring court life.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 08, 2009, 08:40:58 PM
Well, that explains why he'd be willing to go away on long ocean voyages. No drinking and no sex would make for pretty boring court life.
No one said anything about no sex.... :subserviant homo:
So Tim, have you gotten hammered with your coteachers yet? :cheers:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 09, 2009, 08:55:35 AM
So Tim, have you gotten hammered with your coteachers yet? :cheers:
Yes.
What about the legendary nightly Korean booze fests? Fact or fiction?
In Nanjing, othern than perhaps a small coterie of die-hard alcoholphiles, drinking culture is not very strong, especially among the women.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 20, 2009, 10:59:49 PM
What about the legendary nightly Korean booze fests? Fact or fiction?
In Nanjing, othern than perhaps a small coterie of die-hard alcoholphiles, drinking culture is not very strong, especially among the women.
The general Chinese population don't drink too much, especially when compared with westerners.
But the drinking culture is very strong among officials and business leaders. Whenever I meet mainland officials they want to drink until they drop. And they want to drag me with them. The trick is to hold the line and refuse to drink any.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 20, 2009, 10:59:49 PM
What about the legendary nightly Korean booze fests? Fact or fiction?
In Nanjing, othern than perhaps a small coterie of die-hard alcoholphiles, drinking culture is not very strong, especially among the women.
Not that bad from what I've seen. When they do drink they drink it fast. I had nine shots of soju or whatever it's called in two hours. It's not that strong, but if you drink it that fast it doesn't have to be. Still I haven't been hung over or anything.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 20, 2009, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 09, 2009, 08:55:35 AM
So Tim, have you gotten hammered with your coteachers yet? :cheers:
Yes.
Did you sing at the noraebang afterwards?
No.
I went to Suwon last Friday, that was pretty good. Where are you living? I'm in Namyang-do, Hwaseong-si.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 20, 2009, 11:18:41 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 20, 2009, 10:59:49 PM
What about the legendary nightly Korean booze fests? Fact or fiction?
In Nanjing, othern than perhaps a small coterie of die-hard alcoholphiles, drinking culture is not very strong, especially among the women.
Not that bad from what I've seen. When they do drink they drink it fast. I had nine shots of soju or whatever it's called in two hours. It's not that strong, but if you drink it that fast it doesn't have to be. Still I haven't been hung over or anything.
Not that strong? It's like 20% alcohol! :blink:
I think the last time I had 9 shots I was completely wasted and hung over the next morning. Fortunately this wasn't with my school teachers. Obviously you've got better capacity for alcohol than I do. You alkie. :P
QuoteI went to Suwon last Friday, that was pretty good. Where are you living? I'm in Namyang-do, Hwaseong-si.
I live in Seogu distict of Incheon. Not much here, so I typically go to Seoul on weekends.
You guys should try bai jiu. It's around 50 or 60% alcohol. :cheers:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2009, 11:33:33 PM
Not that strong? It's like 20% alcohol! :blink:
That's like a strong wine. 9 shots of that should still be less than half a liter.
Strong starts at 40% (most shots).
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 21, 2009, 12:07:49 AM
You guys should try bai jiu. It's around 50 or 60% alcohol. :cheers:
I had some of that in Japan. Knocked me on my ass. but in a fun way. hangover was kinda brutal.
Quote from: Syt on October 21, 2009, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2009, 11:33:33 PM
Not that strong? It's like 20% alcohol! :blink:
That's like a strong wine. 9 shots of that should still be less than half a liter.
Strong starts at 40% (most shots).
I'm a lightweight. :(
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 21, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
I'm a lightweight pussy. :(
Fixed to be a bit more accurate. :hug:
Quote from: Monoriu on October 20, 2009, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 20, 2009, 10:59:49 PM
What about the legendary nightly Korean booze fests? Fact or fiction?
In Nanjing, othern than perhaps a small coterie of die-hard alcoholphiles, drinking culture is not very strong, especially among the women.
The general Chinese population don't drink too much, especially when compared with westerners.
You can say that again, the Chinese suck at drinking.
I remember a Chinese friend once telling me in China believe only 'bad people' go to pubs. <_<
Quote from: Tyr on October 21, 2009, 02:44:24 AM
You can say that again, the Chinese suck at drinking.
I remember a Chinese friend once telling me in China believe only 'bad people' go to pubs. <_<
I guess I only hang out with bad Chinese. When I was in China people were drinking like fish. A club in Beijing even gave me a VIP card :lol:
Traditionally, pubs are viewed very negatively in China. Only criminal types, rebellious youngsters the mafia, etc go to pubs. But things are beginning to change. Now there are more and more lavishly decorated pubs catering for expats and the upper middle class who want to imitate a western style of living.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 21, 2009, 04:59:10 AM
Traditionally, pubs are viewed very negatively in China. Only criminal types, rebellious youngsters the mafia, etc go to pubs. But things are beginning to change. Now there are more and more lavishly decorated pubs catering for expats and the upper middle class who want to imitate a western style of living.
Yes. My (Chinese) girlfriend's father, who is perhaps the heaviest drinker I've ever met, was amused and surprised at the mere notion that he go to a "bad" pub. My GF, on the other hand, likes to go.
Another interesting fact is that most "pubs" I've found in China are actually more like clubs. The ones with a more traditional, quiet pub atmosphere tend to be frequented by foreigners.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 21, 2009, 05:42:34 AM
Another interesting fact is that most "pubs" I've found in China are actually more like clubs. The ones with a more traditional, quiet pub atmosphere tend to be frequented by foreigners.
My impression is that these "pubs" are not designed for the masses. They are for the nouveau riche. The idea of going to a pub with friends was an alien concept in China 20 years ago. It would be a grave insult to invite a non-criminal to one.
The first club I ever went to in Beijing was completely empty. Had a capacity of a hundreds of people, yet me and my friends were the only people there. We ordered a beer each to be polite and then left. The second was near Sanlitun, and it was packed. Hundreds of Chinese people, and we were the only white people there.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 21, 2009, 05:48:40 AM
My impression is that these "pubs" are not designed for the masses. They are for the nouveau riche. The idea of going to a pub with friends was an alien concept in China 20 years ago. It would be a grave insult to invite a non-criminal to one.
I'm having trouble though imagining how pubs stayed in buisness if they were just for criminals.
Surely the police would have known this (since the rest of the population does)?
Quote from: Tyr on October 21, 2009, 07:06:34 AM
I'm having trouble though imagining how pubs stayed in buisness if they were just for criminals.
Surely the police would have known this (since the rest of the population does)?
I took Mono's comments to mean they're not actually just for criminals... it's just that alot of people think of them in that way.
Quote from: Caliga on October 21, 2009, 07:08:59 AM
I took Mono's comments to mean they're not actually just for criminals... it's just that alot of people think of them in that way.
Similar to the way Marty thinks about the Polish lower middle class. :)
Quote from: Tyr on October 21, 2009, 07:06:34 AM
I'm having trouble though imagining how pubs stayed in buisness if they were just for criminals.
Surely the police would have known this (since the rest of the population does)?
They're not just for criminals. Maybe some people think that scene is 'bad', but I saw thousands of Chinese people who enjoyed going to bars and clubs who were not criminals. Beijing nightlife is pretty awesome.
When garbon has called you a pussy, you must stop, and reexamine the choices that have brought you there.
Not necessarily. Garbon, like most Languishers, is prone to making snap judgments on insufficient data.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 21, 2009, 05:48:40 AM
My impression is that these "pubs" are not designed for the masses. They are for the nouveau riche. The idea of going to a pub with friends was an alien concept in China 20 years ago. It would be a grave insult to invite a non-criminal to one.
You cannot play sports...you cannot go out and drink...what do respectable Chinese people do for fun?
Quote from: Valmy on October 21, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 21, 2009, 05:48:40 AM
My impression is that these "pubs" are not designed for the masses. They are for the nouveau riche. The idea of going to a pub with friends was an alien concept in China 20 years ago. It would be a grave insult to invite a non-criminal to one.
You cannot play sports...you cannot go out and drink...what do respectable Chinese people do for fun?
Study and destroy the will of their fellow people... preferably by forcing them to study too. they're a boring people
Went up to the foriegn district in Seoul with the Namyang crew and some of the teachers from a neighboring town on Saturday. Seoul is farther than I thought. We're on the other side of Hwaseong from the train station, so we have to take a 45 minute bus ride... there and depending on which train you take it's a 30 to 45 minute ride. It was Phil's last week so we all went up to celebrate.
We went to a Mexican restaurant/bar called Pancho's. Where we met up with a group of teachers who teach in Seoul that some of the guys knew. The quasedillas were delicious. After we spent a few hours there we head over to a Canadian bar called the Rocky Mountain Tavern where an epic Stones cover band was playing. The singer was crap, but the guitars were absolutely sick. The flagrant display of the hammer and sickle annoyed me however.
We left that place at about 1am and everyone was having a great time until Phil realized his wallet was missing. Damn dirty, Canadians. <_< Anyways, the trains don't start running until 6am so we took a cab to a local bar called New Phillies and stayed there until 5:30am. It was a pretty cool place with a bigscreen hooked up to a public computer. Just youtube whatever music video you want and put it up there.
Quote
We went to a Mexican restaurant/bar called Pancho's. Where we met up with a group of teachers who teach in Seoul that some of the guys knew. The quasedillas were delicious. After we spent a few hours there we head over to a Canadian bar called the Rocky Mountain Tavern where an epic Stones cover band was playing. The singer was crap, but the guitars were absolutely sick. The flagrant display of the hammer and sickle annoyed me however.
Shouldn't you have found it funny and spent the night making snide jokes about Canadians being a bunch of damn commies?
QuoteAnyways, the trains don't start running until 6am so we took a cab to a local bar called New Phill...ies and stayed there until 5:30am.
Awesome.
This here is the problem with the UK and Sweden.
...
And even the Netherlands to a slight extent.
Quote from: Tyr on October 25, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Shouldn't you have found it funny and spent the night making snide jokes about Canadians being a bunch of damn commies?
It was the band members that wearing the hammer and sickle. Don't know which country they come from.
You should have told them to conceal them.
Have you:
tried soju?
busted a move on a local girl?
Rocky Mountain Tavern is a cool place. Especially when they've got sports on.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2009, 07:42:13 PM
Have you:
tried soju?
busted a move on a local girl?
Read the last few pages Admiral.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 25, 2009, 09:12:38 PM
Rocky Mountain Tavern is a cool place. Especially when they've got sports on.
If you like getting pick pocketed I guess.
Put your wallet in your front pants pocket instead of your back pocket or coat pocket then.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 25, 2009, 10:05:54 PM
Put your wallet in your front pants pocket instead of your back pocket or coat pocket then.
I've been doing that for years just to avoid back problems from the tilt. :Embarrass:
Quote from: ulmont on October 25, 2009, 10:10:55 PM
I've been doing that for years just to avoid back problems from the tilt. :Embarrass:
Yeah I always keep it in the front.
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 25, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
:lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 25, 2009, 10:05:54 PM
Put your wallet in your front pants pocket instead of your back pocket or coat pocket then.
THat's where he had his.
How drunk was this guy? How baggy were his pants?
I know I would notice because I notice the wallet when it is just sitting there. It's not very comfortable.
He didn't seem that drunk at the time, but he'd had quite a few margiritas.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 07, 2009, 01:36:47 AM
QuoteIn class they're about the same or worse talking wise as back home, but there's a lot more physical contact and rough housing between students. There's a ten minute break between each period, which is way to long, and predictably leads to them running amok in the hallway yelling. They get an hour off for lunch and it's like Lord of the Flies out there. Not my problem though so I don't care.
Yeah, that's all very true. :lol:
There's also all the hugging, sitting on each other's laps, and so on.
They're also all very dorky.
I'm going to have to have my gaydar completely recalibrated when I come home. The guys skip down the hall arm in arm here like they're going down the yellow brick road.
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2009, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 25, 2009, 10:10:55 PM
I've been doing that for years just to avoid back problems from the tilt. :Embarrass:
Yeah I always keep it in the front.
Same here, but then I'm paranoid about destroying my cards by sitting on them. :blush:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 12:49:11 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 07, 2009, 01:36:47 AM
QuoteIn class they're about the same or worse talking wise as back home, but there's a lot more physical contact and rough housing between students. There's a ten minute break between each period, which is way to long, and predictably leads to them running amok in the hallway yelling. They get an hour off for lunch and it's like Lord of the Flies out there. Not my problem though so I don't care.
Yeah, that's all very true. :lol:
There's also all the hugging, sitting on each other's laps, and so on.
They're also all very dorky.
I'm going to have to have my gaydar completely recalibrated when I come home. The guys skip down the hall arm in arm here like they're going down the yellow brick road.
:lol:
I've even seen them laying on each other on the couch in the classroom.
QuoteIf you like getting pick pocketed I guess.
Never happened to me. Though you do have to be more careful in Itaewon than in other areas like Hongdae or Gangnam.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 25, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
Anyone doing that anywhere is not wise.
Quote from: Tyr on October 26, 2009, 02:04:23 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 25, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
Anyone doing that anywhere is not wise.
I've always carried my wallet in my back pocket without problem, dork.
Quote from: Jaron on October 26, 2009, 02:18:22 AM
Quote from: Tyr on October 26, 2009, 02:04:23 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 25, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
Anyone doing that anywhere is not wise.
I've always carried my wallet in my back pocket without problem, dork.
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Quote from: Jaron on October 26, 2009, 02:18:22 AM
Quote from: Tyr on October 26, 2009, 02:04:23 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 25, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
A white dude walking around Asia with his wallet in his back pocket seriously must either be profoundly retarded, or wanting to get pick pocketed.
Anyone doing that anywhere is not wise.
I've always carried my wallet in my back pocket without problem, dork.
Thats very strange.
To keep your wallet in your front pocket to me just screams 'well duh', its the most basic anti-theft advice you learn when you're a kid.
And its uncomfortable in your back pocket.
Yesterday Mr. Han invited me to play the sport of kings with the rest of the faculty. That's right, badminton. :lol: They were so hard core about it too, flyign around the court like they were playing doubles at Wimbledon. :D
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
I'm your best imaginary friend.
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
Schoolgirls. :rolleyes:
I'd be honoured to accept your request, Caliga, but you've never deigned to send one.
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
Accepted. :D
Oh, you guys remind me, I have not logged on fb for a few days now. Timmy in there?
The first day of many featuring the Siberian wind has arrived.
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
He accepted mine within an hour and I do little more than make fun of him. :)
Quote from: Lettow77 on October 27, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
I'd be honoured to accept your request, Caliga, but you've never deigned to send one.
PM me your info and I will friend you. Maybe you can comment on my Civil War related postings.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 02, 2009, 01:18:07 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
He accepted mine within an hour and I do little more than make fun of him. :)
Pfft he asked
me, top that Habbu :P
Quote from: Habbaku on November 02, 2009, 01:18:07 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 26, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
If you walk around looking like your facebook profile, than I can see why.
Nice how you've accepted Jaron's friend request, a guy who you have never met, but not mine... a guy who you have met like five times. <_<
He accepted mine within an hour and I do little more than make fun of him. :)
You forgot to mention that I didn't recognize you since you weren't wearing a shirt & tie or posing with an AK47 in your picture.
I can fix that.
Next FB project : Profile picture with AK-47.
*Wonders why fahdiz and Habbu won't accept his friend requests*
Maybe because you look like your about to rob a bank in your picture?
I was doing Gods work :angry:
Quote from: Jaron on November 02, 2009, 02:40:03 AM
I was doing Gods work :angry:
Robbing banks is gods work?
As long as I give 10% to the Church
Big words coming from a dirty rican.
Quote from: katmai on November 02, 2009, 03:16:57 AM
Big words coming from a dirty rican.
Yeah talk about pot and kettle
Tim, what are the hours you work like there? In my Canadian high school in China, I've got Mon - Fri, 8:25 - 3:35. However, each day there are only around 210 minutes of classroom teaching.
Incidentally, is the length of the Korean school day also insane? Here the day begins around 7:00 AM and often ends around 6:30 PM or later, with several hours of supervised evening study time later in the night. As well, students always go to school on Saturdays, and also sometimes on Sundays if they have had a test during the week (in order to "make up for lost time").
Fortunately, we Canadian teachers only work according to normal Canadian high school teaching hours.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 02, 2009, 04:06:06 AM
Tim, what are the hours you work like there? In my Canadian high school in China, I've got Mon - Fri, 8:25 - 3:35. However, each day there are only around 210 minutes of classroom teaching.
Incidentally, is the length of the Korean school day also insane? Here the day begins around 7:00 AM and often ends around 6:30 PM or later, with several hours of supervised evening study time later in the night. As well, students always go to school on Saturdays, and also sometimes on Sundays if they have had a test during the week (in order to "make up for lost time").
Fortunately, we Canadian teachers only work according to normal Canadian high school teaching hours.
Did I mention that I absolutely hate school?
No, but you've expressed your contempt for teachers before. ;)
Quote from: Lettow77 on October 27, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
I'd be honoured to accept your request, Caliga, but you've never deigned to send one.
Fine, I'll go ahead and send you one. Didn't know you had an FB account, but I do know your real name. :)
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 02, 2009, 05:54:22 AM
No, but you've expressed your contempt for teachers before. ;)
School = prison :mad:
Quote from: katmai on November 02, 2009, 02:42:47 AM
Quote from: Jaron on November 02, 2009, 02:40:03 AM
I was doing Gods work :angry:
Robbing banks is gods work?
Well, let's just say pretty much the only criminals that are good guys in the movies are bank and casino robbers... that and some con men. I guess the old proverb applies to all of them "Thieving from a thief gets 100 years of forgiveness" ("quien roba a un ladrón tiene 100 años de perdón")
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 02, 2009, 04:06:06 AM
Tim, what are the hours you work like there? In my Canadian high school in China, I've got Mon - Fri, 8:25 - 3:35. However, each day there are only around 210 minutes of classroom teaching.
Incidentally, is the length of the Korean school day also insane? Here the day begins around 7:00 AM and often ends around 6:30 PM or later, with several hours of supervised evening study time later in the night. As well, students always go to school on Saturdays, and also sometimes on Sundays if they have had a test during the week (in order to "make up for lost time").
Fortunately, we Canadian teachers only work according to normal Canadian high school teaching hours.
Those poor children.... and poor teachers with such long hours!
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
Those poor children.... and poor teachers with such long hours!
Poor children yes. Poor teachers no. Students stay in the classroom all the time. But different teachers come in at different times. From a student's perspective, he is stuck in the classroom. From a teacher's perspective, he may need to teach a lot of classes on Monday, but his schedule maybe different on Tuesday.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 02, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
Those poor children.... and poor teachers with such long hours!
Poor children yes. Poor teachers no. Students stay in the classroom all the time. But different teachers come in at different times. From a student's perspective, he is stuck in the classroom. From a teacher's perspective, he may need to teach a lot of classes on Monday, but his schedule maybe different on Tuesday.
I have my own multimedia room, I stay here and the students come to it.
Hours at my school are 8:20-4:30
EDIT: I only teach 4-5 forty-five minute classes a day though.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 02, 2009, 04:06:06 AM
Incidentally, is the length of the Korean school day also insane? Here the day begins around 7:00 AM and often ends around 6:30 PM or later, with several hours of supervised evening study time later in the night. As well, students always go to school on Saturdays, and also sometimes on Sundays if they have had a test during the week (in order to "make up for lost time").
The school day is 8:20-4:30 or thereabouts. However, most students take after-school classes or go to private institutes after school, sometimes until 10pm. Schools have Saturday classes the 1st and 3rd Saturday of every month (or maybe every other Sat - I don't work weekends, so I don't know), and again many students will go to institutes to study English and math on Saturday. Finally, those students who don't have afterschool class will sometimes stay at school voluntarily to study, especially seniors in high school, since they study constantly, all day, for the big college entrance exams. The entire senior year in high school is basically a cram session for that test.
Note that the above applies to high school. Younger kids' schedules are (probably) less insane.
Speaking of prisons, in the winter there is no heating in the schools. Thus the students spend all that time huddling in a room that is literally around 0 degrees.
Quote from: katmai on November 02, 2009, 03:16:57 AM
Big words coming from a dirty rican.
Hey! that's my title! :mad:
Quote from: Monoriu on November 02, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
Those poor children.... and poor teachers with such long hours!
Poor children yes. Poor teachers no. Students stay in the classroom all the time. But different teachers come in at different times. From a student's perspective, he is stuck in the classroom. From a teacher's perspective, he may need to teach a lot of classes on Monday, but his schedule maybe different on Tuesday.
Strange, the total opposite system to the UK.
I have to say I think ours is better- teachers have everything they need for their class set in a location and don't have to carry things around with them everywhere.
I'm back on the grid. :menace:
Any funky internet laws I should know about Bob?
Watching Japanese porn will get you deported - you may only watch good Korean porn (plus, it's good for health!)
Nah, I don't think there's anything. In fact, you can probably get away with pirating more than usual if you want - certainly everyone in my school pirates like crazy, and I've heard that well over 50% of software on business and government computers is pirated.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2009, 04:15:28 AM
Watching Japanese porn will get you deported - you may only watch good Korean porn (plus, it's good for health!)
Nah, I don't think there's anything. In fact, you can probably get away with pirating more than usual if you want - certainly everyone in my school pirates like crazy, and I've heard that well over 50% of software on business and government computers is pirated.
I heard streaming is okay, downloading is iffy (prawn} and distributing (send a picture to a friend) is right out.
I'm drunk.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 05, 2009, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2009, 04:15:28 AM
Watching Japanese porn will get you deported - you may only watch good Korean porn (plus, it's good for health!)
Nah, I don't think there's anything. In fact, you can probably get away with pirating more than usual if you want - certainly everyone in my school pirates like crazy, and I've heard that well over 50% of software on business and government computers is pirated.
I heard streaming is okay, downloading is iffy (prawn} and distributing (send a picture to a friend) is right out.
I'm drunk.
:w00t: *streams his ESSENCES into Tims mouth*
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2009, 04:15:28 AM
Watching Japanese porn will get you deported
That should be a rule everywhere. Including Japan.
Japanese porn is a venerable staple of the black market here. In fact, it comprises 100% of my porn collection. :blush:
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 05, 2009, 09:56:08 AM
Japanese porn is a venerable staple of the black market here. In fact, it comprises 100% of my porn collection. :blush:
Are the naughty parts pixelated; or is that not done for the export market?
Does Japanese porn still put black filter spots over everything pornographic?
Oh my God! When cowokers go out and dirnk it's fucking crazy!
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 10:01:35 AM
Does Japanese porn still put black filter spots over everything pornographic?
Search harder
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 05, 2009, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Tyr on November 05, 2009, 10:01:35 AM
Does Japanese porn still put black filter spots over everything pornographic?
Search harder
I don't mean I keep finding just the pay sites. I mean in Japan it used to be (still is?) the law that they do this in porn. I've seen some from not too long ago which was indeed like that.
it was still the law when I was there, anything in stores had pixelated pubic areas, sometimes including armpits. but online you can always find the stuff for import with no censorship.
I still don't get the crying shit in their porn. STOP CRYING BITCH!
Wait, it makes me harder. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 05, 2009, 02:07:16 PM
I still don't get the crying shit in their porn. STOP CRYING BITCH!
Wait, it makes me harder. :blush:
:lol:
The Japanese seem to have a thing for chicks not enjoying sex. Total turn off for me. But then, much of porn these days I find totally unerotic.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 05, 2009, 02:07:16 PM
I still don't get the crying shit in their porn. STOP CRYING BITCH!
Wait, it makes me harder. :blush:
lolz, QFT.
As for the censorship, nothing is blurred out. The movies appear to be designed for export to the USA, and the copies on the Chinese black market are, of course, pirated versions.
Also, there are Chinese subtitles to everything. However, regardless of what is said (and some of it is English), it invariably gets translated into Chinese as: "Feels good?" "feels good?"
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 05, 2009, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2009, 04:15:28 AM
Watching Japanese porn will get you deported - you may only watch good Korean porn (plus, it's good for health!)
Nah, I don't think there's anything. In fact, you can probably get away with pirating more than usual if you want - certainly everyone in my school pirates like crazy, and I've heard that well over 50% of software on business and government computers is pirated.
I heard streaming is okay, downloading is iffy (prawn} and distributing (send a picture to a friend) is right out.
I'm drunk.
I've done the first two, no problems. Sometimes though large downloads, like through torrents, or from Megaupload (not always porn, either) slow to a crawl, and I'm not sure if its some sort of anti-piracy measure by the ISP or just a crappy slow server.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 05, 2009, 10:33:18 AM
Oh my God! When cowokers go out and dirnk it's fucking crazy!
Ah, yeah. :lol:
Koreans, the Irish of Asia.
Any of your coworkers exploded in a psychotic rage while drunk yet?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 05, 2009, 08:58:29 PM
Any of your coworkers exploded in a psychotic rage while drunk yet?
:huh:
No.
There was way too much touching for my comfort zone though.
Male on male touching, or...?
Quote from: Malthus on November 05, 2009, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 05, 2009, 02:07:16 PM
I still don't get the crying shit in their porn. STOP CRYING BITCH!
Wait, it makes me harder. :blush:
:lol:
The Japanese seem to have a thing for chicks not enjoying sex. Total turn off for me. But then, much of porn these days I find totally unerotic.
That and the weird obsession with masks, vibrators, and weird plastic junk ruins Japanese porn for me.
Have they taught you the Korean booze pouring rules yet? How about the offer 3 times/refuse twice rule?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 05, 2009, 09:04:17 PM
Have they taught you the Korean booze pouring rules yet? How about the offer 3 times/refuse twice rule?
I know the pouring etiqute, not the offer/refuse thing.
I don't know the offer-refuse thing either. Apparently you're supposed to refuse something first if someone offers, I know that much, but in practice I never do it. And the Koreans I offer things to rarely refuse (and if they do, they continue refusing, so they must mean it).
Possibly I get away with not knowing because I'm a weird 외국인. :lol:
This reminds me. I'm going to Beijing next month on a business trip. Mainland officials are notorious for taking offence at people who do not drink with them. The last time I went to China on official business, I had a buddy who likewise refused to drink one drop. This time, I am going with my boss, who loves red wine. He has yet to find out that I don't drink.
Imagine the official dinner where everybody is supposed to drink till they drop. I'm going to be so alone fighting for my wine virginity
Quote from: Monoriu on November 06, 2009, 03:21:42 AM
Imagine the official dinner where everybody is supposed to drink till they drop.
That's when you raid their wallets and steal cash and incriminating photos you can blackmail them with.
If ever you feel your courage faltering, just picture the money you save as a teetotaler.
The offer/refuse rule is that a polite person declines an offer at least twice. You can accept on the third offer. If you're offering only to be polite, you offer twice. If you really mean it, you offer three times.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 06, 2009, 03:21:42 AM
This reminds me. I'm going to Beijing next month on a business trip. Mainland officials are notorious for taking offence at people who do not drink with them. The last time I went to China on official business, I had a buddy who likewise refused to drink one drop. This time, I am going with my boss, who loves red wine. He has yet to find out that I don't drink.
Imagine the official dinner where everybody is supposed to drink till they drop. I'm going to be so alone fighting for my wine virginity
They way I get around having to drink at company functions is to take a sip or two in their view, and dump the shit in a plant when they aren't looking.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 06, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
They way I get around having to drink at company functions is to take a sip or two in their view, and dump the shit in a plant when they aren't looking.
That won't work against Chinese officials. They all drink, and when they see that you don't drink, they'll ask you to take a tiny sip. Once you do that, they'll be sure that you do drink, and there is no end to it. The trick is not let anything through at all. No sip, no beer, no wine, no spirits, nothing. If you do that, they'll either back down and declare you a pussy, or the entire table will say you don't give them face and you risk all out war with them. Since I'm from Hong Kong and is considered a guest in Beijing, they'll likely back down. That's what happened last time.
Also, Chinese tend to sit down around a table, not walk around like in a cocktail reception setting.
Yikes, almost got myself in trouble there.
I downloaded season 8 of the Simpsons and we've been watching it.
I've shown "You Only Move Twice" and "Homer's Enemy" already.
Today I put on "Bart After Dark", I'd forgot what that one was about, I thought it was the one where he broke his leg. Thankfully I realized it was the one where he works at a whorehouse before it got to any of the racy scenes.
So, I switched it to "Homer vs the 18th Amendment". I told my co-teacher I'd explain to her why I changed it at the end of class. That was an awkward conversation.
How old are the students that you couldn't show them a Simpsons episode?
and a pretty cool class that you'd be watching simpsons...but why do they need you there for that?
Quote from: Tyr on November 22, 2009, 08:20:56 PM
How old are the students that you couldn't show them a Simpsons episode?
and a pretty cool class that you'd be watching simpsons...but why do they need you there for that?
They're middle school studets. However, they're pretty conservative here in Korea, at least in public, (in actuality there are hookers all over the place in the city) given what I remember of the episode it would not have gone over well.
To help translate stuff.
Season 8 :thumbsdown:
I use Season 4 & 5. Last Friday the school got the DVDs the teachers ordered, so now we have a Season 3 DVD. They understand so much more when I show it with Korean subtitles.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 22, 2009, 09:07:16 PM
Season 8 :thumbsdown:
I use Season 4 & 5. Last Friday the school got the DVDs the teachers ordered, so now we have a Season 3 DVD. They understand so much more when I show it with Korean subtitles.
:huh: What blasphemy is this?
Season 8 is the best season hands down.
I offered to show it with subtitles, but they said not to. I guess they think that the kids will just read the subtitles and not listen to the actual English.
No, 4&5 are the best - The Shinning Treehouse of Horror, Cape Feare, Monorail, Last Exit to Springfield (homer as union boss), etc.
It is nice the Korean sweatshop animation is popular there.
When I was a student I hated those Simpsons and Sesame Street videos that the non-local teachers loved to show. I was totally bewildered when I saw them - incomprehensible words, incomrehensible accents, incomprehensible cultural references. I am the sort of person who must get the meaning of every sentence 100% before I am willing to move on to the next. So if I don't get 100% of the first 3 minutes of the show, the rest mean nothing to me. Those shows are very frustrating.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
When I was a student I hated those Simpsons and Sesame Street videos that the non-local teachers loved to show. I was totally bewildered when I saw them - incomprehensible words, incomrehensible accents, incomprehensible cultural references. I am the sort of person who must get the meaning of every sentence 100% before I am willing to move on to the next. So if I don't get 100% of the first 3 minutes of the show, the rest mean nothing to me. Those shows are very frustrating.
But you are forgetting the reason that you are learning English to begin with: To service us.
It is essential that you learn those cultural references, because that is the why that civilized people speak.
Those videos were totally incompatible with the rest of the curriculum. Starting from grade 1, we learned to listen to English by doing weekly listening tests. We put on our headphones and listened to a tape. The tape was a woman with an announcer type perfect English accent. She would speak a sentence or a paragraph then pause. We must write down the sentence/paragraph on a piece of paper. Marks were deducted if our answers differed in any way from what the announcer spoke. It was not enough to get the meaning right. It must be a word-for-word exact match. We did the same sort of test for 11 years straight, every week. We were trained to get every word down. Every time I watched the Simpsons I was horrified - if I needed to put every word of the dialogue down, I would fail the test.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:50:01 PM
Those videos were totally incompatible with the rest of the curriculum. Starting from grade 1, we learned to listen to English by doing weekly listening tests. We put on our headphones and listened to a tape. The tape was a woman with an announcer type perfect English accent. She would speak a sentence or a paragraph then pause. We must write down the sentence/paragraph on a piece of paper. Marks were deducted if our answers differed in any way from what the announcer spoke. It was not enough to get the meaning right. It must be a word-for-word exact match. We did the same sort of test for 11 years straight, every week. We were trained to get every word down. Every time I watched the Simpsons I was horrified - if I needed to put every word of the dialogue down, I would fail the test.
The only test I've given so far is a face to face interview with questions I wrote. The other tests the teachers give are paper tests, but I'm pretty sure headphones aren't used. I'm the go to guy for the evaluation of their spoken English.
Are your students attached to a school or are the classes open to the general public?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 23, 2009, 03:05:09 AM
Are your students attached to a school or are the classes open to the general public?
Public school.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
I am the sort of person who must get the meaning of every sentence 100% before I am willing to move on to the next.
Which is the worst thing you can do when trying to learn and use a new language.
Quote from: The Larch on November 23, 2009, 07:01:06 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
I am the sort of person who must get the meaning of every sentence 100% before I am willing to move on to the next.
Which is the worst thing you can do when trying to learn and use a new language.
Well, he speaks English perfectly now, so I guess his method (strange as it sounds) worked. -_-
Quote from: Caliga on November 23, 2009, 08:24:53 AM
Quote from: The Larch on November 23, 2009, 07:01:06 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
I am the sort of person who must get the meaning of every sentence 100% before I am willing to move on to the next.
Which is the worst thing you can do when trying to learn and use a new language.
Well, he speaks English perfectly now, so I guess his method (strange as it sounds) worked. -_-
Either that or the fact that, you know, he emigrated and lived and studied in Canada for several years? :contract:
I forgot about that. :blush:
Down with robot chinese schools.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 06, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
They way I get around having to drink at company functions is to take a sip or two in their view, and dump the shit in a plant when they aren't looking.
That won't work against Chinese officials. They all drink, and when they see that you don't drink, they'll ask you to take a tiny sip. Once you do that, they'll be sure that you do drink, and there is no end to it. The trick is not let anything through at all. No sip, no beer, no wine, no spirits, nothing. If you do that, they'll either back down and declare you a pussy, or the entire table will say you don't give them face and you risk all out war with them. Since I'm from Hong Kong and is considered a guest in Beijing, they'll likely back down. That's what happened last time.
Also, Chinese tend to sit down around a table, not walk around like in a cocktail reception setting.
Wow, pretty militant drinkers, eh? :huh: I'd be with you - I drink little or nothing, and have no desire to drink alcohol heavily.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 06, 2009, 09:04:48 AM
The offer/refuse rule is that a polite person declines an offer at least twice. You can accept on the third offer. If you're offering only to be polite, you offer twice. If you really mean it, you offer three times.
If everybody knows this, then doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of both parties being "polite"?
Quote from: KRonn on November 23, 2009, 11:23:09 AM
Wow, pretty militant drinkers, eh? :huh: I'd be with you - I drink little or nothing, and have no desire to drink alcohol heavily.
It was the same in Soviet Union, according to my dad . The pressure to drink is enormous, and there is no way to refuse without becoming a total outcast. Nobody wants to have a sober guy watching and remembering all the elites making idiots of themselves, and not reciprocating. It's a very degenerate culture.
Quote from: DGuller on November 23, 2009, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: KRonn on November 23, 2009, 11:23:09 AM
Wow, pretty militant drinkers, eh? :huh: I'd be with you - I drink little or nothing, and have no desire to drink alcohol heavily.
It was the same in Soviet Union, according to my dad . The pressure to drink is enormous, and there is no way to refuse without becoming a total outcast. Nobody wants to have a sober guy watching and remembering all the elites making idiots of themselves, and not reciprocating. It's a very degenerate culture.
Well, I just tend to think that drinking, socially or otherwise, is done too easily, too often, resulting in one of the larger addictions and problems; in the US anyway.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 22, 2009, 10:50:01 PM
Those videos were totally incompatible with the rest of the curriculum. Starting from grade 1, we learned to listen to English by doing weekly listening tests. We put on our headphones and listened to a tape. The tape was a woman with an announcer type perfect English accent. She would speak a sentence or a paragraph then pause. We must write down the sentence/paragraph on a piece of paper. Marks were deducted if our answers differed in any way from what the announcer spoke. It was not enough to get the meaning right. It must be a word-for-word exact match. We did the same sort of test for 11 years straight, every week. We were trained to get every word down. Every time I watched the Simpsons I was horrified - if I needed to put every word of the dialogue down, I would fail the test.
Because that sounds useful. Writing down word for word someone speaking in a manner that isn't typically observed.
Quote from: KRonn on November 23, 2009, 03:52:22 PM
Well, I just tend to think that drinking, socially or otherwise, is done too easily, too often, resulting in one of the larger addictions and problems; in the US anyway.
It is true. You just have to open your mouth and pour it in.
Quote from: garbon on November 23, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Because that sounds useful. Writing down word for word someone speaking in a manner that isn't typically observed.
They do that in Swedish for immigrants classes too. And I remember it from Japanese. It seems pretty normal in language learning. As annoying as it is
Quote from: DGuller on November 23, 2009, 02:26:30 PM
If everybody knows this, then doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of both parties being "polite"?
I don't follow.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2009, 07:06:16 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 23, 2009, 02:26:30 PM
If everybody knows this, then doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of both parties being "polite"?
I don't follow.
The point of being polite seems to be to not hurt someone's feelings. If you offer something to someone just to be polite, you hope that he'll refuse, AND that he wouldn't realize that you wanted him to refuse. With the 2/3 rule, he'll know how you want him to answer just by counting how many times you ask.
I don't think that is the point of being polite. Like when a store clerk and I ask how one another is doing. We both know that we don't really care and yet we do it.
Quote from: garbon on November 23, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
I don't think that is the point of being polite. Like when a store clerk and I ask how one another is doing. We both know that we don't really care and yet we do it.
Exactly. It's about gestures.
Quote from: KRonn on November 23, 2009, 03:52:22 PM
Well, I just tend to think that drinking, socially or otherwise, is done too easily, too often, resulting in one of the larger addictions and problems; in the US anyway.
China is pretty odd in this. The general population don't drink much compared with western countries. But the political and business elite are ultra heavy drinkers. It is almost as if they drink just to show off.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 23, 2009, 07:49:27 PM
Quote from: KRonn on November 23, 2009, 03:52:22 PM
Well, I just tend to think that drinking, socially or otherwise, is done too easily, too often, resulting in one of the larger addictions and problems; in the US anyway.
China is pretty odd in this. The general population don't drink much compared with western countries. But the political and business elite are ultra heavy drinkers. It is almost as if they drink just to show off.
It's good for the career.
I wonder if it is also a northern Chinese vs. southern Chinese difference. When I go up north, I notice more common people drinking. Could just be my impression.
Incidentally, northern Chinese girls have told me a couple times that southern Chinese men are unmanly. :lol:
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 24, 2009, 04:46:47 AM
I wonder if it is also a northern Chinese vs. southern Chinese difference. When I go up north, I notice more common people drinking. Could just be my impression.
Incidentally, northern Chinese girls have told me a couple times that southern Chinese men are unmanly. :lol:
This is just in the major cities or out elsewhere too?
As drinking I could well see as an attempt to be modern. In Hong kong they know they're modern, they've nothing to prove, drinking is bad. In Beijing and Shanghai though they're still in the 'Ohh! look at us world! look how cool and modern we are!' stage.
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
raciss
Hopefully he'll insult them, and beat him savagely.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
:nelson:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
You'll be oriental before you're done.
Quote from: garbon on November 23, 2009, 03:58:13 PMBecause that sounds useful. Writing down word for word someone speaking in a manner that isn't typically observed.
Dictation is (was) used for native languages as well. Generally I think it's considered good for spelling and so on.
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
You'll be oriental before you're done.
:lol:
Quote from: Jacob on December 01, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 23, 2009, 03:58:13 PMBecause that sounds useful. Writing down word for word someone speaking in a manner that isn't typically observed.
Dictation is (was) used for native languages as well. Generally I think it's considered good for spelling and so on.
We used to have dictation in (native German) language class. Main focus (besides spelling) was interpunctuation and proper capitalization.
I found it much harder in French. Understanding from context whether it would be en, ans, on (all sounding the same to me) etc. was pretty hard for me.
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2009, 02:43:36 PMWe used to have dictation in (native German) language class. Main focus (besides spelling) was interpunctuation and proper capitalization.
I found it much harder in French. Understanding from context whether it would be en, ans, on (all sounding the same to me) etc. was pretty hard for me.
... and thus pretty useful, I'd think.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
And I'm off to orientation for the next 3 days. What a waste of my time. <_<
New teachers all have this reaction to training it seems. Eventually it won't bug you at all, though it may still bore you.
Actually most of the presentations turned out to be useful.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2009, 12:11:33 AM
Actually most of the presentations turned out to be useful.
:face:
:p
though you may have been asked this already in the thread, how are you enjoying south korea? is your base of operations a large city or smaller than you thought? what do you do in your free time, and are you exploring your area as much as you can? how long do you have? have you run across many north korean-south korean adversarial sentiments?
Quote from: Lacroix on December 05, 2009, 02:18:39 AM
though you may have been asked this already in the thread, how are you enjoying south korea? is your base of operations a large city or smaller than you thought? what do you do in your free time, and are you exploring your area as much as you can? how long do you have? have you run across many north korean-south korean adversarial sentiments?
I live in a small town in a rural area. I'm luck in that there are 7 foreign teachers living in my apartment building, and three more in the immediate area. There are a few good restaurants, and one can go drinking or to the noraebang (karaoke). However most weekends we take the bus to Suwon, which has 1 million people. That takes about 45 minutes. Sometimes we go to Seoul but that's another 30-45 minutes by train/subway. The cultural sights are great, but going out to Seoul is hard, because the buses and subway stop at 11pm and don't start 'till 5am so you have to stay out all night. At least in Suwon you can take a cab back for a decent price.
I haven't talked to many people about North Korea, but most seem to think that America is overly paranoid, and Kim is just bluffing to get paid.
cool. :)
do you tend to stick with your fellow foreigners, or have you branched out? how are you enjoying the experience thus far?
Quote from: Lacroix on December 05, 2009, 02:58:16 AM
cool. :)
do you tend to stick with your fellow foreigners, or have you branched out? how are you enjoying the experience thus far?
Yeah, it's hard to meet people who can speak English well this far out in the sticks.
I really like it so far.
How's your Korean coming along?
Being in a country where you've no choice but to speak the language must be odd...but good for learning.
Quote from: Tyr on December 05, 2009, 04:40:06 AM
How's your Korean coming along?
Being in a country where you've no choice but to speak the language must be odd...but good for learning.
It's not really coming along well, most teachers, even one's who've been here a while have awful Korean. There's not much incentive when you know you're going back home eventually.
Have you had a lot of sex?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2009, 04:53:29 AM
It's not really coming along well, most teachers, even one's who've been here a while have awful Korean. There's not much incentive when you know you're going back home eventually.
Weird, that's kinda the opposite of my attitude.
I think "I'm in Sweden for two years. It'll look bad at home if I DON'T know it".
With English speakers having such a bad reputation for languages I really feel I must try my harest to learn everything that appears.
Quote from: Tyr on December 05, 2009, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2009, 04:53:29 AM
It's not really coming along well, most teachers, even one's who've been here a while have awful Korean. There's not much incentive when you know you're going back home eventually.
Weird, that's kinda the opposite of my attitude.
I think "I'm in Sweden for two years. It'll look bad at home if I DON'T know it".
With English speakers having such a bad reputation for languages I really feel I must try my harest to learn everything that appears.
Trust me, you can only damage the reputation of English speakers around the world.
"Candy..Sweet..whats the difference, ja?"
Welcome to the wonders of K-Pop. Few videos can better epitomize the true spirit of K-Pop than this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElW_V6SyfE8
Not enough girls dancing around in short skirts :contract:
Watch this instead. I'm sure you heard it already in the store :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
(although it is almost a year old now, so maybe not)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2009, 04:53:29 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 05, 2009, 04:40:06 AM
How's your Korean coming along?
Being in a country where you've no choice but to speak the language must be odd...but good for learning.
It's not really coming along well, most teachers, even one's who've been here a while have awful Korean. There's not much incentive when you know you're going back home eventually.
You lazy Yank SOB :P If you wanted you could learn the language in a few months, given that you live in some small native town. It could prove to be very useful in your future that you speak some obscure language well (there are big Korean companies out there, for example) But noooo you already speak Teh Language, why bother? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Tamas on December 07, 2009, 03:02:09 AM
But noooo you already speak Teh Language, why bother? :rolleyes:
Indeed. Why bother? After all we have you damn Magyars convinced to learn our language, why should we bother learning anything other than Mother English? :)
Quote from: Tamas on December 07, 2009, 03:02:09 AMIf you wanted you could learn the language in a few months, given that you live in some small native town.
The best way for him to learn the language would be to get a Korean girlfriend.
Although then he runs the risk of speaking girly Korean.
Quote from: Tyr on December 05, 2009, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2009, 04:53:29 AM
It's not really coming along well, most teachers, even one's who've been here a while have awful Korean. There's not much incentive when you know you're going back home eventually.
Weird, that's kinda the opposite of my attitude.
I think "I'm in Sweden for two years. It'll look bad at home if I DON'T know it".
With English speakers having such a bad reputation for languages I really feel I must try my harest to learn everything that appears.
How's the Swedish coming along?
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 07, 2009, 01:05:49 AM
Not enough girls dancing around in short skirts :contract:
Watch this instead. I'm sure you heard it already in the store :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
(although it is almost a year old now, so maybe not)
Yeah, they still play that in the music video line up sometimes. :D
Quote from: Syt on December 04, 2009, 02:43:36 PM
We used to have dictation in (native German) language class. Main focus (besides spelling) was interpunctuation and proper capitalization.
I found it much harder in French. Understanding from context whether it would be en, ans, on (all sounding the same to me) etc. was pretty hard for me.
La
dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenagers fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and
ans sound the same but not
on :D Same thing with
brun and
brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Quote from: miglia on December 07, 2009, 03:25:59 AM
How's the Swedish coming along?
Not as good as I'd like but...so so considering so much is against me.
I suck at languages, don't know other languages (easier to learn another foreign language once you know one), I'm a native English speaker (damn Germans think they're smart when they have it so easy...), the only time I HAVE to speak it is with Iranians and the rare little old lady, I have to devote the learning part of my brain to my studies and, most importantly I think, the university has a stupid system whereby they give Swedish class priority to exchange students and hence out of 3 semesters I've only had Swedish classes one semseter.
Its just all a case of trying to bulk up my vocabulary with all those Germanic and Scandinavian exclusive words.
QuoteLa dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenages fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and ans sound the same but not on :D Same thing with brun and brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Ack, I hate that stuff. Sure to an extent its good to learn queen's English but teachers take it way too far and try to utterly obliterate regionalism.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2009, 03:55:35 AM
La dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenages fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and ans sound the same but not on :D Same thing with brun and brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Why can't french evolve, english has?
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 07, 2009, 07:41:33 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2009, 03:55:35 AM
La dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenages fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and ans sound the same but not on :D Same thing with brun and brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Why can't French evolve, English has?
Fixed it for you :D You should evolve too ;)
:rolleyes:
Proving my point, thank you.
Veddy intresting.
http://newledger.com/2009/12/north-koreas-ajumma-rebellion/
Quote
North Korea's Ajumma Rebellion
by Joshua Stanton
A sort of tea party movement may be breaking out today in the least likely of all places.
The unseen pillars of Korean society are its ajummas. "Ajumma" — literally "aunt" — is one of those wonderfully untranslatable Korean words — more colorful than "hausfrau," less derogatory than "fishwife," and probably not too far from "yenta." In South Korea, "ajumma" is an inglorious term most associate with gargantuan red sun visors, bright lipstick, baggy clothing, and an oblivious, pushy determination that draws the scorn and admiration of anyone who has ever been in an ajumma's way. My Korean wife has called "ajumma" The Third Gender. In "A Nation of Sheep," Eugene Lederer observed ajummas fleeing south over the snow and ice in flimsy slippers, with all their valuables on their backs, and concluded that they had "no nerve endings." I met one ajumma on Cheju Island who made her living by rising before the sun and carrying 40 pounds of snacks and drinks 180 feet up the side of this crater to sell to exhausted climbers a third her age (the woman was in her 70's, so technically, she was really a halmoni).
There is steel under those garish colors, for the ajumma is also legendary for her determination to pay any price or bear any burden for her family. Today, South Korea's Chosun Ilbo reports that North Korean ajummas are leading the popular resistance to Kim Jong Il's Great Confiscation, a canceling and reissue of the national currency that wiped out the savings of millions of families and threatens to plunge North Korea back into famine just as winter begins. Then, North Koreas died passively by the millions. Collectively, the survival strategies of those who remained formed an underground market, operated largely by North Korea's ajummas. And this time, the ajummas are fighting the suppression of their survival strategy by forming something of a North Korean tea party movement:
"The women are tough and defiant," a source said, "and now they are angry. Markets are turning into places of protest against North Korean leader Kim Jong-il." The women gather to accuse the authorities, defying threats of arrest. [Chosun Ilbo]
These developments extend a trend we've begun to see in the last year — ajummas as leading dissenters against the world's scariest, most totalitarian regime (see here, here, and here).
AFP, picking up the Chosun Ilbo story, adds:
Open Radio for North Korea, a broadcaster and website that collects information from informants there, said two money-changers were executed on Friday in Pyongsong near Pyongyang for illegally exchanging currency. [AFP]
The regime is tried to soothe its angry subjects by last-minute adjustments to the limits on the amount of their savings they were allowed to exchange. Today, it is promising them a pay raise by paying them their old wages in the new, lower denominations. That amounts to an immediate hundred-fold pay raise, but in currency that's less trusted than ever, still chasing after too little food to go around — in other words, guaranteed hyperinflation. The only thing that would make matters even worse would be destroying the makeshift market distribution system that's been keeping North Koreans alive for the last decade:
According to North Korea Intellectuals Solidarity (NKIS), a decree has been handed down saying that selling rice in the jangmadang [markets] has been banned and that any rice on sale will be confiscated.
The NKIS source explained, "New market management regulations have been received by local people's committees, and instructions ordering a crackdown on the markets have been forwarded to the National Security Agency."
Indeed, side effects of the market crackdown have already been reported. Good Friends, a Seoul-based NGO, has released a story claiming that, "In the Kangan-dong jangmadang in Sooncheon in South Pyongan Province, the rice price, which used to be around 16 won per kilogram (in new won), rose to 50 won on the 3rd."
Furthermore, despite the fact that the authorities have already announced that the rice price would be pegged at the level it was immediately after the July 1st Economic Management Reform Measure in 2002, 45 won, by the 7th it had risen to more than 80 won. [Daily NK]
The irony of this is the initial speculation by some analysts that the Great Confiscation was designed to halt hyperinflation. In fact, the real purposes seem to have been fundamentally political — the enforcement of dependency by robbing citizens of their personal savings and suppressing the markets where they buy their food.
North Korea's ajummas won't bring down Kim Jong Il alone, but they are breaking new ground in transforming discontent into dissent, and bringing it out into the open. It's hard to say whether this will lead to something like our own tax revolt centuries ago, but then, as now, it is pocketbook issues that have the greatest power to mobilize people to the extraordinary courage it must take to risk a fate like this.
so, is sarah palin the ross perot of 2012?
Quote from: Lacroix on December 09, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
so, is sarah palin the ross perot of 2012?
What does that have to do with English, Korea or even Asia in general?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 09, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 09, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
so, is sarah palin the ross perot of 2012?
What does that have to do with English, Korea or even Asia in general?
Quick where is one of El jefe Ed's face palm pics.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 09, 2009, 10:27:20 PM
Veddy intresting.
http://newledger.com/2009/12/north-koreas-ajumma-rebellion/
Quote
Is Sarah Palin the Ross Perot of 2012?
The Huffington Post's Sam Stein is an Accomplished Humorist
North Korea's Ajumma Rebellion
by Joshua Stanton
Quoted for future humiliation!
*cropped for the uppity rican :p
Can you edit that down to only the humiliating portion? It's an annoying waste of space otherwise.
Tim is getting grumpier. :(
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 09, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 09, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
so, is sarah palin the ross perot of 2012?
What does that have to do with English, Korea or even Asia in general?
She'll be good with foreign relations because from Alaska you can like, SEE Asia.
Quote from: katmai on December 09, 2009, 10:44:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 09, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Lacroix on December 09, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
so, is sarah palin the ross perot of 2012?
What does that have to do with English, Korea or even Asia in general?
Quick where is one of El jefe Ed's face palm pics.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hennessy.id.au%2Fquentingeorge%2Farchives%2Ffacepalm4.jpg&hash=427e479f31712f0e293a1e6db4e3bcdf2216d970)
?
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2009, 03:55:35 AM
La dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenages fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and ans sound the same but not on :D Same thing with brun and brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Yea we had
dictée in my french classes here too. That's college level though so may make a difference.
Quote from: Maximus on December 10, 2009, 12:07:22 PM
Yea we had dictée in my french classes here too. That's college level though so may make a difference.
Yeah I did to. Hard as fuck.
Haven't had any dictée in french, nor english actually, since the 5th grade.
Korean taste is so fucked up. Their music channel has actually put an English song into rotation and it's Britney Spears. :bleeding:
Also, I was under the impression that the government here banned songs with obscene lyrics. Am I wrong? The whole song is about her participating in a M/W/M threesome. How the hell did they miss that?
Their English isn't very good? ;)
Probally so.
When I look up what some foreign language songs I listen to are actually saying it...raises eyebrows.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 11, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
Their English isn't very good? ;)
Well, obviously, it was more of a rant than a serious conversation.
Anyways, check your facebook man.
Bartender almost set me on fire Saturday.
4 Hungarians came in and ordered some shots. When I turned around the ashtray was on fire. I'm thinking "what the hell? That's not how you get rid of cigarette butts." Bartender dips two fingers into the flames, his fingers go out and he does it again. I'm just dumbfounded watching this, wondering what he's doing. Then he spits liquor across his fingers, Zena warrior princess style, causing a huge ball of fire to roll across the bar setting the shots on fire. Of course he didn't bother to warn me even though I had an arm on the bar. The fireball rolled up my arm to the elbow. Now, I had a good buzz going on, so instead of freaking out, my thought was "I'm on fire, interesting", but it went out in a flash, so no harm was done.
In Itaewon?
Maybe I should start going there more often. Sounds exciting. :D
QuoteNow, I had a good buzz going on, so instead of freaking out, my thought was "I'm on fire, interesting", but it went out in a flash, so no harm was done.
:lol:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 13, 2009, 06:32:11 PM
In Itaewon?
Maybe I should start going there more often. Sounds exciting. :D
QuoteNow, I had a good buzz going on, so instead of freaking out, my thought was "I'm on fire, interesting", but it went out in a flash, so no harm was done.
:lol:
No, that was in Suwon, but it was at the NB (NoiseBasement) and I know there's one of those in Hongdae.
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 07, 2009, 07:41:33 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2009, 03:55:35 AM
La dictée is still a classic in France. Stupid teenages fed on SMS and keske get bad marks but they deserve it.
En and ans sound the same but not on :D Same thing with brun and brin except in regional varieties.
I was good at it so I am biased ;)
Why can't french evolve, english has?
French has already evolved. Into English.
Seriously, it's a matter of pride. If anybody actually cared about communicating effectively, they would only speak English.
Only if english stop using latin words for no good reason.
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 14, 2009, 08:34:54 AM
Only if english stop using latin words for no good reason.
I like the use of Latin. :smarty:
I quite like Latin words provided they aren't included a fortiori.
Quote from: Alatriste on December 15, 2009, 07:59:33 AM
I quite like Latin words provided they aren't included a fortiori.
The
quid pro quo for not using Latin tags is enhanced elegance of language.
The end of the year school festival...WTF was that insanity. :blink:
All the anime depictions of such an event that I've seen pale in comparison. By far weirder than anything I've seen in Korea so far by a factor of 500. Full AAR once I get home from work.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 13, 2009, 06:29:40 PM
Zena warrior princess
Get it right or don't do it at all. :angry:
Met up with HMB yesterday. More to come on this later as well as the crazy school festival.
BOB and Tim walk into a bar.
Ouch. :pinch:
This makes Tim the only Languishite to have met me. You should all be jealous.
He's the same in real life as on here huh? :hug:
:p
HMB is on report for having rabidly libertarian friends. :mad:
Did you talk about me?
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Did you talk about me?
You, Ed and Pdh, were labeled the funniest posters on Languish.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2009, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Did you talk about me?
You, Ed and Pdh, were labeled the funniest posters on Languish.
FUCK YEAH
In your collective feces, boring posters! :yeah:
The School Festival, a descent into madness.
It was canceled in October because of the flu, but at the last minute they decided to throw it together all at the last minute.
The opening act set the tone. It was as if I was watching Korean music videos co-produced by Buddah and Grallon. It was a drag queen competition. 20 of the guys, split into pairs in the full ensemble, with skirts, heels, wigs, makeup, stockings, etc. They did the walk, and then there was a dance off, and to say it wasn't tame is an understatement. The first pair to go had a guy wrap his right leg around the other guys ass and go to town. Bump and grind, going low, the contestants all put on a show. The girls in the crowd were screaming like Rain just parachuted into the building.
The next act up was an ordinary piano, flute and violin concerto.
After them, about twenty girls did an odd synchronized sign language thing to a couple of songs.
Then five guys did the dance to heartbeat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CxUVYepkJo
It was brilliantly choreographed. They even did the pyramid at the end and a back flip, (though he stumbled a little on the landing). I was really impressed.
Than there was a rap duet.
After that is when I believe the teachers got up. Three young women in their late twenties, who did an awesome fan dance to the music of the song Sign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfaWY9UYn0 and finished it off with the hip swivel from the opening dance of Abracadabra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR0R_4cFxEc
Then there was a choir that sang a Christmas song in Korean, and then sang Mariah's version of "All I want for Christmas is you".
After that was a piano and harmonic act.
Then the penultimate act. Four 9th grade girls and four folding chairs. Jesus Christ, I've been out to the clubs and I've never seen a native girl get that freaky on the dance floor with anyone. It reminded me of Madonna in the Wedding Dress at the MTV award in the 80s. The only word to describe it is writhing.
After that was a rock band, they were pretty good. Two electric guitars, base, drums and a lead singer. He had a leather jacket, but everyone else was wearing their uniforms, sans jackets. He was flying around the stage, sliding on his knees, belting out the words with style. He memorized "American Idiot" perfectly, didn't even have that much of an accent. I say memorized, because I'm sure he doesn't speak much English. Must have played six or seven songs.
No Starcraft reenactments? :cry:
How is Korea at this time of year anyway?
I've heard Christianity is oddly popular there.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 20, 2009, 09:39:07 AM
No Starcraft reenactments? :cry:
Of course not, why would you need to reenact what you can see live games or classic matches on the gaming channel any day of the week?
Quote from: Tyr on December 20, 2009, 09:47:11 AM
How is Korea at this time of year anyway?
I've heard Christianity is oddly popular there.
Gearing up for Christmas, what do you mean by oddly? About 30% of the population is Christianity. In the city at night the sight that most stands out is the neon crosses.
The historical reason for this is that resistance to the Japanese occupation coalesced around two factions the Communists and the Christians.
Why do they drink so much on a weeknight! Why? :bleeding:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2009, 09:50:28 AMAbout 30% of the population is Christianity.
Are there a lot of Moonies in your town? Have they tried to talk to you if so? Wondering because they paid for me to go to a conference in Bejing, random Korean chicks at Berkeley were handing out fliers offering the trip to the conferance. They also offered me a trip in Korea, which I turned down as I was afraid of going with them to their 'homeland.' I wouldn't be afraid now after getting to know them, but am curious as to how prevalent they are, contrasted with their perception in America of being a brain washing cult.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2009, 09:50:28 AM
The historical reason for this is that resistance to the Japanese occupation coalesced around two factions the Communists and the Christians.
It is inappropriate to refer to Japanese rule of Korea as 'occupation'.
WTF is a Moonie?
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on December 22, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
WTF is a Moonie?
A Korean church based around Sun Myung Moon. They have a lot of strange beliefs that many of us would consider odd, like him being the second coming of Christ and Korea being a special penis shaped country destined to inseminate the world similar to Italy. Hanging out with them was very wierd, especially with the non Koreans who were part of it, but they were very nice people. The conference they sent me to was primarily about no sex before marraige, but they took us to tourist attractions and didn't supervise us at night, so it was a good time.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 22, 2009, 08:43:38 AM
Why do they drink so much on a weeknight! Why? :bleeding:
Because the whole country is crazy. :D
Also, awesome AAR, even though you already told me about it.
QuoteAre there a lot of Moonies in your town?
They bugged me once.
So Buddah, Pathos, etc. Are those kinds of school fesitivals normal here in Asia? HMB's was canceled because of the flu, so he hasn't seen one at his school. I mean, I expected something weird given the anime I've seen, but not that weird.
Not sure. My school is Canadian, so the stuff we do is pretty much in keeping with Canadian norms back home.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 22, 2009, 10:25:29 PM
So Buddah, Pathos, etc. Are those kinds of school fesitivals normal here in Asia? HMB's was canceled because of the flu, so he hasn't seen one at his school. I mean I expected something weird given the anime I've seen, but not that weird.
Definitely not normal in Hong Kong.
Holy Crap, guess the school had money left over for the English program and rather than do something stupid like spend it on books or movies they bough a 32inch LCD tv and new vacuum and brought them over for my apartment!
Heh. You must be doing something right. :D
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 28, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
Heh. You must be doing something right. :D
I like to think so. :cool:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2009, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Did you talk about me?
You, Ed and Pdh, were labeled the funniest posters on Languish.
Ed's reaction to this news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 28, 2009, 11:57:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 20, 2009, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Did you talk about me?
You, Ed and Pdh, were labeled the funniest posters on Languish.
Ed's reaction to this news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w)
:)
HisMajestyBob - Milfhunter, a disciple of CdM, chasing married Korean ladies.
:smoke:
Still not sure why anyone would willingly go there.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on January 03, 2010, 04:20:54 AM
:smoke:
Here's an pic from the manga/anime Chrono Crusade, I was telling you about.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg251%2FTim811%2FChronCrusadeChapter3.jpg&hash=acc372de3d5a283f5e5c8698e1fc8a6f230d572d)
Pic doesn't work for me.
Fixed?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 28, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
Holy Crap, guess the school had money left over for the English program and rather than do something stupid like spend it on books or movies they bough a 32inch LCD tv and new vacuum and brought them over for my apartment!
How wonderfully corrupt. :D
Apparently there's some "real identity" law in Korea that prevents me from posting comments on Youtube. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
Apparently there's some "real identity" law in Korea that prevents me from posting comments on Youtube. <_<
Only morons post comments on YouTube. Are you a moron?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
Apparently there's some "real identity" law in Korea that prevents me from posting comments on Youtube. <_<
Really? I know for Daum and a bunch of Korean sites you have to register using your ID card number and real name, but I didn't know this also covered youtube.
How will I ever share my witty fart jokes now? :(
BTW Timmy, the symbol in your Korean comic is the letter for the sound "a." Only 4 more vowels to go.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 19, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
BTW Timmy, the symbol in your Korean comic is the letter for the sound "a." Only 4 more vowels to go.
Manga and anime are Japanese.
Korean comics are Manwha. I think I've only read one of those series.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 19, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
BTW Timmy, the symbol in your Korean comic is the letter for the sound "a." Only 4 more vowels to go.
Don't you mean 아?
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on January 19, 2010, 08:17:47 AM
Don't you mean 아?
Hells no!
|- is "a."
| is "ee" rhymes with Yi.
-| is "e" rhymes with meh.
edit: No that's wrong. It's uh.
Rotate "a" 45 degrees to the left, so the tit is sticking up, that's "o" as in Oh say can you see.
Rotate "a" to the right so it sticks down is "oo."
-- with no tit is sort of like a schwa sound. Like buracku manu has bigu dicku.
and the ㅇ is silent when it's before a vowel.
아야어여오요우유으이 :smarty:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on January 19, 2010, 08:30:05 AM
and the ㅇ is silent when it's before a vowel.
아야어여오요우유으이 :smarty:
Are you using a Korean keyboard? I see little Fig Newtons on my screen. The silent consonant is O.
Tell me Mr. Smarty Pants, how is O pronounced at the end of a syllable?
Yeah, Korean keyboard.
and it's pronounced "ng". :smarty:
You up for Suwon Friday?
Yeah, I think so.
Hey Tim, this is where I download all my Death Note episodes: http://forums.kametsu.com/showthread.php?t=1690
I'm up to ep 20 out of 37, and it hasn't jumped the shark yet.
I looked at a summary of the episodes and it will occur eventually.
Also, me and Bob got our asses kicked by some spicy chicken. :blush:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 24, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
Also, me and Bob got our asses kicked by some spicy chicken. :blush:
:perv:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmichaelscomments.files.wordpress.com%2F2007%2F07%2Fkorean-girls-in-miniskirts.jpg&hash=f68ac4b27744a5e79e4c7fc4d7614d41147b420e)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 24, 2010, 01:42:29 AM
me and Bob got
And you call yourself an English teacher. Tsk, tsk.
Here's that new music video I was telling you about HMB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9403-9CptH8
Quote
Experts Predict Robots to Replace Foreign English Teachers
by Robert Koehler on January 28, 2010
in Ministry of Barbarian Affairs
From the KT:
During the second decade of the New Millennium, robots are expected to replace a number of English-speaking teachers here, who come from such countries as the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.
At a robotics forum, which brought together 150 experts from across the country late last week in Seoul, participants predicted that English-speaking robots would fill the shoes of native speakers in the future.
"By around 2015, robots should be able to help teachers in English classes. By 2018, they should be able to teach on their own while communicating with students," said Kim Shin-hwan, an economist at the Hyundai Research Institute.
[...]
Kim said that the numerous native English speakers at Korea's language institutes – estimated in the vicinity of 30,000 – will lose their jobs in the not-so-distant future.
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2010/01/28/experts-predict-robots-to-replace-foreign-english-teachers/
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2010/01/123_59809.html
Oh noes! :(
:lmfao:
What a load of crap!
I look forward to the influx of Korean tourists using terms like "does not compute" and "file not found."
HMB, me and my coteacher are probably going to hit the Costco in Seoul at 12-12:30 on Saturday?
You game? We're probably going to watch Avatar in Suwon after that. You can come if you don't buy anything perishable. It'll keep in his car, but transporting it back to Incheon from Suwon would be iffy.
I'll be in Jeju from Wednesday till Saturday next week. I don't know when I'll get back from Jeju yet, but probably in the evening.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
Here's that new music video I was telling you about HMB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9403-9CptH8
Christ that's awful
If you're still teaching English in Korea in 50 years having your job potentially stolen by robots I'd think would be a blessing.
Quote from: Tyr on January 31, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
If you're still teaching English in Korea in 50 years having your job potentially stolen by robots I'd think would be a blessing.
Robots teaching English in 50 years I could believe, but not in 8 years which is what the article said.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on January 31, 2010, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
Here's that new music video I was telling you about HMB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9403-9CptH8
Christ that's awful
What do you have against slutty cat women?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 31, 2010, 07:28:52 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 31, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
If you're still teaching English in Korea in 50 years having your job potentially stolen by robots I'd think would be a blessing.
Robots teaching English in 50 years I could believe, but in 8 years which is what the article said.
A sign I shouldn't be online at 1.30am if ever there was one
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on January 31, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
I'll be in Jeju from Wednesday till Saturday next week. I don't know when I'll get back from Jeju yet, but probably in the evening.
When in the evening? Would you be up to hitting Seoul?
Damn.
I'm really really starting to get drawn towards doing Jet again. Trouble is I missed the application for this year.
Really unsure where life is going...dunno if I'll end up with a decent job or not in the next year.
My current plan though is to work short term contracts (more common in HCI I'm told), save some money, pay off my student loan and apply for Jet for next year. But it could work out that I do get a job and...hmm.
I just really want to experience Japan whilst I'm still young and awesome.
The trouble is it migt be a bit of a waste of a year...my year of getting experience could be for nought....really uncertain.
I'm going to be taking up my Japanese again when I leave Sweden though for sure. Just in case.
(this has been another disjointed thought barf by the Tyr party)
Tim, did you feel that earthquake yesterday?
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/02/09/22/0302000000AEN20100209009400315F.HTML
Felt like my apartment building hopped.
At least, I think it was the earthquake. They're building a subway line nearby, and they might have just undermined my building's foundation. :unsure:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 09, 2010, 06:57:10 PM
Tim, did you feel that earthquake yesterday?
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/02/09/22/0302000000AEN20100209009400315F.HTML
Felt like my apartment building hopped.
At least, I think it was the earthquake. They're building a subway line nearby, and they might have just undermined my building's foundation. :unsure:
Yeah, actually I wondered what that was at the time. My first thought at the time was that the gas system was about to blow or something, but it was over so fast that I just ignored it.
EDIT: I predict my building will collapse if there is a serious quake.
I have no doubt my building would collapse. Hell, there's gaps between all the walls in my bathroom, it looks like the wall is slowly falling away from the building. At least I'm on the top floor, so I can hope that all those poor people below me will break my fall.
3.0? Taco Bell causes more rumbling than that
So when should we meet up tomorrow?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 11, 2010, 05:29:44 AM
So when should we meet up tomorrow?
I'll send you a text tomorrow. If I can't get out of work early, then I might not be able to meet up - I still have to pack and get everything ready for Sat's flight.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 11, 2010, 07:28:41 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 11, 2010, 05:29:44 AM
So when should we meet up tomorrow?
I'll send you a text tomorrow. If I can't get out of work early, then I might not be able to meet up - I still have to pack and get everything ready for Sat's flight.
You live in Fredricksburg right? With the huge backlog from the storm is your flight even going to get there?
I was pretty sick last night, some of the sea food I ate didn't agree with me, so I'm not too sure if I'm going out tonight. I'll let you know latter around 2pm.
Hopefully you don't have the same thing I got in Jeju. Puke city. :x
Last I saw my flight is still on time. But between the snow and construction here and the snow there, it'll be a miracle if everything goes right. Hopefully my bus doesn't get stuck in traffic or something on the way to the airport.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 11, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
Hopefully you don't have the same thing I got in Jeju. Puke city. :x
Other way around for me.
You guys need to watch out for the sea cucumber and sea slug.
BTW, either of you tried the spicey squid?
Ya know if it was anybody else I wouldn't be confused by post, but with Yi is he slinging the slang or being straight up? :unsure:
:P
Oh and HimBoB and Timmay I told Oldman you guys were over there, no idea if he's brave enough to meet you folks :P
Yi, how do you pronounce this?
Ingyedong
It's a club district in Suwon and I always butcher it.
Don't slur the NG sound into the second syllable (i.e. In gye dong). Ing (rhymes with Bing), sixteenth note rest, ye (rhymes with meh).
I guess. It would help if you posted a pic with the hankul.
Budae jjigae for the second day in a row, yikes. Not as spicy as that chicken that me and Bob had but it can still get pretty hot.
Thankfully, they always give me a complementary coke. I love how the default is a glass bottle here.
its 인계동, in 팔달구.
"In-gyae-dong"
Are you kids in 학원s? I've been in Seoul public schools for two years, living in 홍대 right now, but I will go back home next week. I'll be applying for the Seoul Teacher Training center in 사당 in a few months.
You're both in 경기도? Where about? I'll in in Suwon next week for the ACL match against Osaka.
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
its 인게동, in 팔달구.
"In-gae-dong"
Thanks.
I heard you were in Korea too, true?
gah, I edited my first post to be correct and added some actual content.
:ph34r:
I live and teach in Namyang in Hwaseong. It's about 40 minutes by bus to Suwon. HisMajestyBob is up in Incheon, though he's on vacation back home right now.
Don't think I'll have time to meet up with you this weekend, but if you're still here next week I could.
Next week will be a bit hectic for me. Gotta close up shop as I'm not rightly sure I'm coming back to Korea.
How long have you been in Korea? How are you coming along? Have you gone to the bath houses? Did you know that Korea has four seasons? Do you like 회? 개고기 먹 봤어요?
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Next week will be a bit hectic for me. Gotta close up shop as I'm not rightly sure I'm coming back to Korea.
How long have you been in Korea? How are you coming along? Have you gone to the bath houses? Did you know that Korea has four seasons? Do you like 회? 개고기 먹 봤어요?
I've been here since October 6th and have been too lazy to learn to read Korean. :blush:
HMB's been here a year and is reupping for the next.
What is Times and I hope Timmy didn't eat dog! :yuk:
Quote from: Barrister on February 18, 2010, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
its 인게동, in 팔달구.
"In-gae-dong"
Oldman!!!!!
I had to twist his arm to come check out languish for this thread :P
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on February 18, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
What is Times and I hope Timmy didn't eat dog! :yuk:
I used google translate too :lol:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on February 18, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
What is Times and I hope Timmy didn't eat dog! :yuk:
회 is just raw fish, like sashimi. Dog meat isn't anything great, and its cost is rather high. The meat is far too greasy for me and really wasn't worth the price.
Tim,
I know what you mean, its not too difficult to stumble through without knowing Korean, I did it my first year and most western sojourners never learn Korean but it helps immensely in every part of your life. :)
Hey Oldman! Haven't seen you post in ages. Spokane says hi.
By the way Oldman, since you're here: You get a specific mention regarding a mini-Languish Meet of Sask and I as we were discussing people and could not for the life of us remember your handle. All I could think of was Moscow, Idaho and you being an RA. Good to see you again.
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on February 18, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
What is Times and I hope Timmy didn't eat dog! :yuk:
I know what you mean, its not too difficult to stumble through without knowing Korean, I did it my first year and most western sojourners never learn Korean but it helps immensely in every part of your life. :)
Especially with the women.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 18, 2010, 09:35:46 PM
Especially with the women.
oh god yes.
Its cool to be back, and see how things are. Some folks have changed their handles by the looks of it though. :huh:
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 09:49:55 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 18, 2010, 09:35:46 PM
Especially with the women.
oh god yes.
Its cool to be back, and see how things are. Some folks have changed their handles by the looks of it though. :huh:
Yeah when the old board software bit the dust some folks changed nicks.
Quote from: katmai on February 18, 2010, 09:53:43 PM
Yeah when the old board software bit the dust some folks changed nicks.
Most notably, "Siegebreaker" is now "Siege."
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
its 인계동, in 팔달구.
"In-gyae-dong"
Are you kids in 학원s? I've been in Seoul public schools for two years, living in 홍대 right now, but I will go back home next week. I'll be applying for the Seoul Teacher Training center in 사당 in a few months.
You're both in 경기도? Where about? I'll in in Suwon next week for the ACL match against Osaka.
What Tim said. :D
We're both at public schools. All I've heard from friends that have taught at 학원s is bad news - not paying on time, ripping them off, and one got fired, but had to stay and teach his replacement or else they wouldn't pay his last paycheck and severance.
홍대 must be an awesome place to live. Very jealous. I tend to come up to Seoul pretty regularly, since my part of Incheon has nothing of interest in or near it.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 18, 2010, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: oldman on February 18, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
its 인계동, in 팔달구.
"In-gyae-dong"
Are you kids in 학원s? I've been in Seoul public schools for two years, living in 홍대 right now, but I will go back home next week. I'll be applying for the Seoul Teacher Training center in 사당 in a few months.
You're both in 경기도? Where about? I'll in in Suwon next week for the ACL match against Osaka.
What Tim said. :D
We're both at public schools. All I've heard from friends that have taught at 학원s is bad news - not paying on time, ripping them off, and one got fired, but had to stay and teach his replacement or else they wouldn't pay his last paycheck and severance.
홍대 must be an awesome place to live. Very jealous. I tend to come up to Seoul pretty regularly, since my part of Incheon has nothing of interest in or near it.
I'm in Suwon most weekends, but I've been coming up to Seoul more often to hang with HMB. What's 홍대, Seoul?
Quote from: katmai on February 18, 2010, 09:53:43 PM
Yeah when the old board software bit the dust some folks changed nicks.
A lot of it was because you could freely change them whenever for a while until that suddenly stopped leaving many stranded
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 19, 2010, 12:25:04 AM
I'm in Suwon most weekends, but I've been coming up to Seoul more often to hang with HMB. What's 홍대, Seoul?
Hongdae is the area in and around Hongik University, right next to Sinchon. In the general area there are about four major universities, so the area is a bunch of young people and nice coffee shops and the like. I'm north of the river, kinda nearby the World Cup Stadium.
Some hagwons are ok (some are great) but it really is a case by case situation. I heard Pagoda is good, but the instructors have no role in creation of material or freedom in teaching. I saw earlier the article about robots replacing English teachers, in the hagwons I can believe it as often they are more tape recorders or baby sitters for children than actual teachers. That can be nice, you can just show up and follow your script and go home, but I don't think I can handle that
Quote from: oldman on February 19, 2010, 05:59:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 19, 2010, 12:25:04 AM
I'm in Suwon most weekends, but I've been coming up to Seoul more often to hang with HMB. What's 홍대, Seoul?
Hongdae is the area in and around Hongik University, right next to Sinchon. In the general area there are about four major universities, so the area is a bunch of young people and nice coffee shops and the like. I'm north of the river, kinda nearby the World Cup Stadium.
I know where that is, we go party in Hongdae whenever we're in Seoul.
Anyone been to the You and I Center near Byeongjeom station on line 1?
Staff turnover is crazy here. I just came back from the going away party and like 1/4th of the staff is transferring and that's totally normal.
100% of the staff (including admin) is leaving my school at the end of June. :lol:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 25, 2010, 04:56:17 AM
Staff turnover is crazy here. I just came back from the going away party and like 1/4th of the staff is transferring and that's totally normal.
Yeah, public school teachers are required by the school boards to move around every 3-4 years.
Private school teachers (not to be confused with Hagwons) can stay for as long as the school administration will have them.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/02/korean-iphone-stylus-its-made-of-meat/
QuoteKorean iPhone Stylus: It's Made of Meat
A Korean sausage maker is experiencing a sales boom due to cold winter weather. People are buying CJ Corporation's snack sausages to use as styluses for their iPhones.
The sausage-fingers, which may or may not be called "Max Rods", conduct electricity and let iPhone owners use their devices whilst keeping their gloves on. According to the rather hard-to-interpret Korean news story, a cold winter has boosted sales by 40%.
The photo, taken by Byron of the Bikehugger community, appears to show commuters stroking their meat across the capacitive screen while still encased in its plastic sheath — good news, as otherwise things might get a bit gross. We wonder how long these sausages last. We guess that if they are encased in their plastic sleeves, and used in the cold, they'll probably be good until spring, whereupon they can be repurposed as a delicious snack.
I didn't realize some touchscreens required electricity conduction. I'll be sure to avoid those.
how odd
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 03, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
I didn't realize some touchscreens required electricity conduction. I'll be sure to avoid those.
They all do.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 03, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
I didn't realize some touchscreens required electricity conduction. I'll be sure to avoid those.
They all do.
They do not. You never played on a DS before? You can use anything as a stylus. No meat sticks needed.
Olds!!! How's the Gout! Good to see you on Languish 3.0 (it's at least as good as windows 3.0 :p )
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 03, 2010, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 03, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
I didn't realize some touchscreens required electricity conduction. I'll be sure to avoid those.
They all do.
They do not. You never played on a DS before? You can use anything as a stylus. No meat sticks needed.
Oh, right :face:
Must have something to do with multitouch.
Yikes, the young guy replacing Ms. Lee is just out of school, and while he can read and write fine, his spoken English is definitely not the best.
On a positive note, I feel like I've learned more about teaching in the two classes I've had with him than in the previous 4 months combined.
Those "sausage" snacks are wholly artificial and can keep for years, they taste terrible but some folks like them. I never say anyone use them as a stylus though, there are dozens of brands of the stuff throughout the country.
Funny thing about my gout, when I first came to Korea I had it real bad, the worst I have ever experianced until I found out what was giving it to me. Then I went nearly two and a half years without any problems but then I come back home and I got it again! :mad: Its mostly died down now but the my body has not liked the change in diet.
I'm still in counter-culture shock, I had forgotten how many fat people there are here. :blush:
Looks like no party in Namyang tomorrow, what are you doing Friday night?
The teachers had a welcome to Namyang Middle School party today at the local bbq place and it was awesome. They used beef instead of the usual pork and it was just exquisite. Some awkward conversations though.
New Ms. Lee: :) Do you like Boys or Girls?
Me: :o Girls
New Ms. Lee: :) Why?
Me: :unsure: In what way do you mean?
New Ms. Lee: :) As students.
Me: :blush: Oh...
Same thing surely? :perv: :p
How annoying.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jjz-1FsdSMQjYDWp3qoa60B4b_jwD9EATIE00
QuoteReport: NKorea has medium-range missile division
By HYUNG-JIN KIM (AP) – 1 hour ago
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea has recently created an army division in charge of newly developed intermediate-range missiles capable of striking U.S. forces in Japan and Guam, a South Korean news agency said Tuesday.
The report came as North Korea stepped up its war rhetoric against the U.S. and South Korea after the allies started their annual drills aimed at improving their defense capabilities.
The North's People's Army recently launched a division supervising operational deployment of missiles with a range of more than 1,860 miles (3,000 kilometers) that it had developed in recent years, Yonhap news agency reported citing an unidentified South Korean government source.
The missiles could pose a threat to U.S. forces in Japan, Guam and other Pacific areas that are to be redeployed in time of emergency on the Korean peninsula, Yonhap said.
The report, however, didn't provide further details such as how many missiles the new division possesses and where they are positioned.
South Korea's Defense Ministry said Tuesday it couldn't confirm the Yonhap report. However, a ministry document published last year showed that the North deployed a new type of medium-range missile believed to the same as one it displayed during a military parade in 2007.
If confirmed, the division's launch could suggest that the North has succeeded in developing more medium-range missiles since 2007 and it needed a bigger unit to manage them, said Ohm Tae-am of the state-run Korea Institute for Defense Analyses in Seoul.
The division's creation would also mean the North has a unit whose primary role is to prevent the U.S. from redeploying its troops in the Pacific to the Korean peninsula in the event of a conflict, said Baek Seung-joo of the same institute.
North Korea's missile program and nuclear weapons development program are major regional security concerns.
The North conducted a long-range rocket test in April in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution that prohibits the country from engaging in any ballistic missile-related activities. A defiant Pyongyang subsequently quit nuclear disarmament talks and performed a second nuclear test.
The United Nations responded in July by imposing punishing new sanctions that toughened an arms embargo on the country and authorized ship searches on the high seas.
On Tuesday, the North continued its salvo against the U.S. and South Korea over their military drills, which the regime has long slammed as a rehearsal for invasion.
"This cannot be interpreted otherwise than a grave provocation," the North's Foreign Ministry said in a statement. It said the North will continue to bolster its nuclear capability as long as the U.S. military threats persist.
The ministry, however, said the North is ready for both dialogue and war, a position that contrasts from a military statement Sunday that the North would break off dialogue with the U.S. in response to the drills.
About 18,000 American soldiers and an undisclosed number of South Korean troops are taking part in 11 days of drills that began Monday across South Korea.
The U.S., which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has said the drills are purely defensive.
The Associated Press
Now that Tim is in Korea I'm in favor of preemptive strikes on the North. Let'em do their worst!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 04, 2010, 05:30:32 AM
The teachers had a welcome to Namyang Middle School party today at the local bbq place and it was awesome. They used beef instead of the usual pork and it was just exquisite. Some awkward conversations though.
New Ms. Lee: :) Do you like Boys or Girls?
Me: :o Girls
New Ms. Lee: :) Why?
Me: :unsure: In what way do you mean?
New Ms. Lee: :) As students.
Me: :blush: Oh...
She didn't mean on the BBQ surely. Or she did, and she's freshly escaped from the North.
Modern education is built for girls in any case. It's a good time to be a college professor.
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2010, 05:35:05 AM
Same thing surely? :perv: :p
See, this is why people think you like beef.
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
Yes. First train to Pyongyang !
Someone stole my sandals out of my box. :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on March 09, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
I assume their would be directions given over Armed Forces Korea radio and I'd follow those. Pyeongtaek is to the immediate south of my and houses a large concentration of US troops. I'd probably head towards Osan airbase.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
Someone stole my sandals out of my box. :mad:
Are there any wild mexicans in Korea? :o
Quote from: Caliga on March 09, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
Run around in circles screaming. :yes:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 09, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 09, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
Run around in circles screaming. :yes:
HMBOB is much closer to the border than I. :yes:
You'd be forced to hide out in a cellar for a few weeks, rifle in hand, venturing forth undercover of darkness using your video camera's night vision to guide you where the North Koreans have nothing. In these forays you will search for food and supplies and try to hamper the north's war effort as much as possible. You will be torn between a mixture of doing the right thing and trying to save as many people from the ravages of the reds as possible and simply trying to survive until UN counter attack.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 09, 2010, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
Someone stole my sandals out of my box. :mad:
What?
Teacher sandals are kept in a row of wooden cabinets. My have been taken. What don't you understand?
Why you would be barefoot at school.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2010, 06:18:50 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 09, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
I assume their would be directions given over Armed Forces Korea radio and I'd follow those. Pyeongtaek is to the immediate south of my and houses a large concentration of US troops. I'd probably head towards Osan airbase.
From what I've heard about Osan, you might be better off embracing the Dear Leader. :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2010, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 09, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 09, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Tim, in the event that war suddenly breaks out between the Koreas while you're there, what are you supposed to do? Are there plans to evacuate you and all the other foreign teachers, or what?
Run around in circles screaming. :yes:
HMBOB is much closer to the border than I. :yes:
I could climb Gyeyang mountain near my house and watch the fireworks across the Han River, and in Seoul in the distance.
At least until the hilltop and the military installation up there got flattened.
My work computer has crashed 4 times today. <_<
Viruses.
Back up anything important, because there's a reformat coming.
What the hell, I usually dress pretty nice to school. Nice pants with a sweater or dress shirt and all that jazz. So why does every time they have some kind of public function here when I need to have my picture taken or I'm up in front of the parents I'm dressed like a bum? Would a little advanced warning kill these guys?
:nelson:
Because you are a bum? :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2010, 01:21:56 AM
What the hell, I usually dress pretty nice to school. Nice pants with a sweater or dress shirt and all that jazz. So why does every time they have some kind of public function here when I need to have my picture taken or I'm up in front of the parents I'm dressed like a bum? Would a little advanced warning kill these guys?
You can get away with anything because you are a foreigner :contract:
I'm sure those pictures will come back to haunt you
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 18, 2010, 01:54:45 AM
I'm sure those pictures will come back to haunt you
Highly unlikely.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2010, 01:21:56 AM
What the hell, I usually dress pretty nice to school. Nice pants with a sweater or dress shirt and all that jazz. So why does every time they have some kind of public function here when I need to have my picture taken or I'm up in front of the parents I'm dressed like a bum? Would a little advanced warning kill these guys?
No suits? bah. Senseis need to be dark suited and dress shod
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on March 18, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2010, 01:21:56 AM
What the hell, I usually dress pretty nice to school. Nice pants with a sweater or dress shirt and all that jazz. So why does every time they have some kind of public function here when I need to have my picture taken or I'm up in front of the parents I'm dressed like a bum? Would a little advanced warning kill these guys?
No suits? bah. Senseis need to be dark suited and dress shod
The dress code here isn't that strict for the teachers, which is why when I came in yesterday and noticed everyone dressed up I knew I hadn't been informed about something.
A girl meant to write "no tests" today, but she wrote "no testes" :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 09, 2010, 10:20:27 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2010, 05:35:05 AM
Same thing surely? :perv: :p
See, this is why people think you like beef.
I missed this.
Like beef? Eh? That some new fangled term for being queer?
QuoteYou can get away with anything because you are a foreigner :contract:
True enough.
I read one piece about the Jet programme on about various people they've had in the past; one was a NZ Maori with full tribal tatoos all over himself and he was passed as all OK.
Quote from: Tyr on April 19, 2010, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 09, 2010, 10:20:27 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2010, 05:35:05 AM
Same thing surely? :perv: :p
See, this is why people think you like beef.
I missed this.
Like beef? Eh? That some new fangled term for being queer?
Yes but it isn't new.
Ah.
Well I was of course meaning same thing in as in 'screw your students'. Not boys and girls the same.
It was a play on something you said in another thread around the same time, don't recall what it was.
While in Japan, I ran into a fellow who waddling this type of work. He was convinced it was easy to get into, even without a Bachelors degree.
I may: highly consider this over reenlisting.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 19, 2010, 12:01:03 PM
While in Japan, I ran into a fellow who waddling this type of work. He was convinced it was easy to get into, even without a Bachelors degree.
I may: highly consider this over reenlisting.
Think of your pension though! :o
Quote from: Barrister on April 19, 2010, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 19, 2010, 12:01:03 PM
While in Japan, I ran into a fellow who waddling this type of work. He was convinced it was easy to get into, even without a Bachelors degree.
I may: highly consider this over reenlisting.
Think of your pension though! :o
I'd have to serve an additional 11 years to get that, and by then, if I pursued this career path, I would likely be discounted as a dirty old man...just like if CdM tried it. :P
11 years go by quickly. Then with a pension you can do whatever the fuck you want with your life.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 19, 2010, 12:16:52 PM
I'd have to serve an additional 11 years to get that, and by then, if I pursued this career path, I would likely be discounted as a dirty old man...just like if CdM tried it. :P
Nonsense, my father began teaching at a school in his 50s.
Go for the Pension first. You'll be a dirty old man, but in japan, land of the old, you'll be a spring chicken.
Quote from: Barrister on April 19, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
11 years go by quickly. Then with a pension you can do whatever the fuck you want with your life.
Don't say that. I don't have many 11 year increments left. :(
My research has proven that the most preferred superpower by Korean middle schoolers is the ability to teleport.
Good to know you are using your time for the important things.
Tim what is up with this Korean baseball match?
http://www.fukung.net/v/15333/c1b7d9c03f787f2f03503ec0301fada8.gif
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 20, 2010, 01:11:50 AM
My research has proven that the most preferred superpower by Korean middle schoolers is the ability to teleport.
Makes sense. If I was in Korea I would want the ability to leave as soon as possible as well.
Quote from: Zanza on April 20, 2010, 01:33:45 AM
Good to know you are using your time for the important things.
I had them fill out a sheet about themselves. Favorite food, color, singer, movie, etc. One of the questions was what superpower they'd have.
I just saw a kid reading a history of modern Germany in manga form. America wore a cowboy hat. :alberta:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 20, 2010, 01:11:50 AM
My research has proven that the most preferred superpower by Korean middle schoolers is the ability to teleport.
But, Hiro is Japanese. :huh:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 20, 2010, 02:05:51 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 20, 2010, 01:33:45 AM
Good to know you are using your time for the important things.
I had them fill out a sheet about themselves. Favorite food, color, singer, movie, etc. One of the questions was what superpower they'd have.
I just saw a kid reading a history of modern Germany in manga form. America wore a cowboy hat. :alberta:
Usually America looks like MacArthur - sunglasses, corncob pipe, etc.
Tim and HMB, are either of you planning on a second tour of duty?
I started my second year here back in Feb.
I'm still undecided on a 3rd year. If I do stay, I think I'm gonna try to teach at a Hagwon in Seoul - better pay, and I much prefer Seoul to my corner of Incheon.
Or, I could get a TOEFL certification, but that would take ~6 months to pay back, and require months of classes. So, likely not.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 20, 2010, 06:36:26 AM
I started my second year here back in Feb.
I'm still undecided on a 3rd year. If I do stay, I think I'm gonna try to teach at a Hagwon in Seoul - better pay, and I much prefer Seoul to my corner of Incheon.
Or, I could get a TOEFL certification, but that would take ~6 months to pay back, and require months of classes. So, likely not.
You should be able to get one for $300 shouldn't you?
From what I saw, the price is about ~$1000, and it's several months of classes.
Could be that that's something else, though.
I looked into TOEFL certification and the prices I saw were much more like what Timmy is talking about.
I checked again and found some cheaper ones.
Looks like the more expensive ones are the classroom and "guaranteed placement" ones.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 20, 2010, 06:51:42 AM
I checked again and found some cheaper ones.
Looks like the more expensive ones are the classroom and "guaranteed placement" ones.
A guy I know got for $300 ~ and the school he was at accepted it and raised his pay.
Quote from: Barrister on April 19, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
11 years go by quickly. Then with a pension you can do whatever the fuck you want with your life.
It doesn't help that my job-satisfaction level is at an all-time low. :P
11 years? Weren't you already on Languish when you first enlisted? :huh:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 22, 2010, 05:54:48 AM
11 years? Weren't you already on Languish when you first enlisted? :huh:
I was on well over a year before I enlisted, maybe nearly two.
And I said an "additional" 11 years. My current enlistment isn't up until 2013.
The Engrish is strong this week.
Yesterday I saw an Old Navy style shirt with American flag for Boston Massachubatts.
Today I saw a girl wearing a jacket that said Get Used on the back.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 10, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
The Engrish is strong this week.
Yesterday I saw an Old Navy style shirt with American flag for Boston Massachubatts.
Today I saw a girl wearing a jacket that said Get Used on the back.
:perv:
Hit on her?
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 10, 2011, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 10, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
The Engrish is strong this week.
Yesterday I saw an Old Navy style shirt with American flag for Boston Massachubatts.
Today I saw a girl wearing a jacket that said Get Used on the back.
:perv:
Hit on her?
No, she's an 8th grader.
Oh :(
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxBlID.png&hash=3fcd6b4fa7f4f2de4c608eb8aaf6f61159e6f13b)
That bear's head looks like a Pac-Man ghost.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 10, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 10, 2011, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 10, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
The Engrish is strong this week.
Yesterday I saw an Old Navy style shirt with American flag for Boston Massachubatts.
Today I saw a girl wearing a jacket that said Get Used on the back.
:perv:
Hit on her?
No, she's an 8th grader.
When in Rome....
No wait, thats Japan.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fverydemotivational.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F08%2Fdemotivational-posters-japan.jpg&hash=21b6962612e1ea60049adcf1a4a2819a02f5fe4f)
Tim: What are you going to do today?
Male Student: I am going to go to work.
Tim: That sounds no fun, what will you wear?
Student: Skirt and high heels.
Tim: ...
I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find professional drag queens in Rhode Island too.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 16, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
That sounds no fun
Were you speaking in English here? "That sounds no fun" sounds awkward to me.
Quote from: Caliga on March 17, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 16, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
That sounds no fun
Were you speaking in English here? "That sounds no fun" sounds awkward to me.
Obviously "that doesn't sound any fun" sounds a lot better, but a lot of kids won't get doesn't. Got to keep it simple if they're going to understand you and build on their foundation.
I was modifying on the fly anyways, there was a list of things they could chose from in the dialogue that were fun. I could have just responded with the route "that sounds fun", but they don't always get sarcasm.
Ok, makes sense.
Tim, what grade would you give me? :)
Quote from: The Brain on March 17, 2011, 10:28:31 AM
Tim, what grade would you give me? :)
Summa Cum Laude for your Doctorate in English.
Dr. Brain. :cool:
I'm not that loud btw.
I will be giving a presentation at my mom's middle school on Asia. Should be interesting.
I'll be showing off all the Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Mongolian currency and other crap I have.
Internet's already blazing, hard to imagine it 10 times faster.
http://behindthewall.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/24/6333593-china-cracks-down-south-korea-speeds-up
QuoteBy Adrienne Mong
SEOUL, South Korea – It's a strange thing to be reading about China's continued crackdown on the Internet from our temporary perch in Seoul.
The last time I was here was in 1989. The Pre-Internet Age.
This time, on my first visit in more than 20 years, South Korea owns the mantle of the world's fastest Internet connection, according to a quarterly survey known as the State of the Internet by Akamai. It's on average four times as fast as that of the U.S.
But that just isn't fast enough.
By the end of next year, the South Korean government plans to have every home in the nation hooked up to the Internet at a speed of one gigabit per second. Imagine being able to download the entire Godfather trilogy in 20 seconds.
Gmail service, interrupted
In the meantime, over in China, land of the Great Firewall, reports are emerging that the download speed of Gmail has plunged. We won't get into the technicalities of kbps, but let's just say Gmail is now operating 45 times slower than the most popular free Chinese instant messaging service known as QQ.
The disruptions to Gmail don't end there. For weeks now, ordinary Gmail users have complained about interrupted service. Writer Wang Lixiong tweeted that he received this message from Gmail when he tried to log in: "Your account is locked, because abnormal activities are detected. You may have to wait 24 hours before you can log in again."
Another user told my colleague Bo Gu that China Unicom appears to be blocking Gmail entirely from mobile devices.
And in the wake of calls for Jasmine rallies foreign journalists in China have been vigilant about attempts to hack into their email accounts.
The disrupted service coincides with a surge in reported failures of several VPNs (virtual private networks), designed to circumvent China's Internet firewall.
On Monday, Google accused the Chinese government of obstructing access to its Gmail service, saying the company had checked everything on its own end and concluded that the problems are the result of a "blockage carefully designed to look like the problem is with Gmail."
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The Chinese Foreign Ministry has denied the accusation.
Speedy Internet = Open Internet
South Korea's drive to lead the way globally in broadband access originated in the mid-1990s, but its efforts stepped up immediately after its economy was crippled by the 1997 Asian financial crisis. And technology became a cornerstone of the government's strategy to reboot and refashion its economy.
Seoul's approach to the Internet is instructive. Although there are many reasons it has managed to power ahead of the pack, there is one that stands out in sharp relief against what's happening in China: the open (and highly competitive) nature of its telecoms market.
"The idea behind an "open" system is essentially that, for a fee, broadband providers must share the cables that carry Internet signals into people's homes," says one report. "Companies that build those lines typically oppose this sharing. A number of governments, including South Korea and Japan and several European countries, have experimented with or embraced infrastructure-sharing as a way to get new companies to compete in the broadband market."
China doesn't allow that kind of openness—either in its infrastructure or in its content.
You need fast internet to Zerg rush. kekekekekeke
Good God was today soul crushing.
Me: "Mr. Oh! A student tattooed him self with a ball point pen!" (Sex {in shockingly good cursive given his level}).
Mr. Oh's solution? Basically teabagged him and punched him in the head.
Totally surreal.
Later that class.
Me: "Mr Oh! This girl looks like she's been cutting herself!"
Mr. Oh simply shrugs his shoulders and looks sad.
And people wonder why East Asian students kill themselves?
For a minute, I thought you were "Mr. Oh".
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 13, 2011, 11:35:03 PM
For a minute, I thought you were "Mr. Oh".
Really? :D
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 13, 2011, 11:35:03 PM
For a minute, I thought you were "Mr. Oh".
Really? :D
Yeah, just based on what I believe your last name is. And the format of that post was a tad confusing to read at first, before ingesting all the context.
Ah, my students don't know my last name. They just call me "Teacher" or "Timothy/Tim".
But yeah, I imagine the reaction to a teacher reporting a student possibly cutting themselves must be a very different cultural thing. As you probably know well, here in the States, that would have the entire educational/administrative/government apparatus spinning into high gear.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
Good God was today soul crushing.
Me: "Mr. Oh! A student tattooed him self with a ball point pen!" (Sex {in shockingly good cursive given his level}).
Mr. Oh's solution? Basically teabagged him and punched him in the head.
Totally surreal.
Later that class.
Me: "Mr Oh! This girl looks like she's been cutting herself!"
Mr. Oh simply shrugs his shoulders and looks sad.
And people wonder why East Asian students kill themselves?
Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn't miss teaching so much. :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 14, 2011, 12:17:34 AM
They just call me ... "Timothy/Tim".
That's not very professional.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 14, 2011, 12:31:01 AM
But yeah, I imagine the reaction to a teacher reporting a student possibly cutting themselves must be a very different cultural thing. As you probably know well, here in the States, that would have the entire educational/administrative/government apparatus spinning into high gear.
Apparently from what I was told later they've had the the counselor talk to her in the past but it didn't seem like they were taking it nearly serious enough.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
Good God was today soul crushing.
Me: "Mr. Oh! A student tattooed him self with a ball point pen!" (Sex {in shockingly good cursive given his level}).
Mr. Oh's solution? Basically teabagged him and punched him in the head.
Totally surreal.
Later that class.
Me: "Mr Oh! This girl looks like she's been cutting herself!"
Mr. Oh simply shrugs his shoulders and looks sad.
And people wonder why East Asian students kill themselves?
Does "teabag" mean something different from where you come from? Cause i just got a very strange mental image.
Quote from: HVC on April 14, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
Good God was today soul crushing.
Me: "Mr. Oh! A student tattooed him self with a ball point pen!" (Sex {in shockingly good cursive given his level}).
Mr. Oh's solution? Basically teabagged him and punched him in the head.
Totally surreal.
Later that class.
Me: "Mr Oh! This girl looks like she's been cutting herself!"
Mr. Oh simply shrugs his shoulders and looks sad.
And people wonder why East Asian students kill themselves?
Does "teabag" mean something different from where you come from? Cause i just got a very strange mental image.
Obviously more in the Halo 2 way.
Was kind of straddling the kid who was slouched down in his chair as he dealt some short punches to his dome. Definitely had his crotch right front of his face.
Corporal punishment is technically illegal in Korea, but so is prostitution. In actuality they're endemic. I know one teacher who works at another school who says they're trying to stop that at his, but given the enormous state mandated yearly turnover at schools, that policy will likely not last as new personnel come in. I estimate beatings are up at least 300% at my school this year.
Quote from: Timbut so is prostitution. In actuality they're endemic.
Tell me more.
I would like to learn more about Korea's prostitution solution. :hmm:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
I would like to learn more about Korea's prostitution solution. :hmm:
This would be a lot more funny if the post you were responding to hadn't been deleted.
Now it just looks weird sitting there, yes. :lol:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
I would like to learn more about Korea's prostitution solution. :hmm:
Try asking her directly? :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
I would like to learn more about Korea's prostitution solution. :hmm:
Try asking her directly? :)
I forgot about the double entendre. : /
Just FYI so you don't think I died: Joined the Peace Corps; be back in 2 years.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 22, 2011, 05:37:08 PM
Just FYI so you don't think I died: Joined the Peace Corps; be back in 2 years.
Cool!
Where are you going?
Georgia (the worse one)
Have fun in Atlanta.
Hey, maybe you can meet Eddie Teach. Also Habakkuk and little Habakkuk live there I think.
Are you teaching them proper Yankee English? ;)
Quote from: Razgovory on April 22, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Hey, maybe you can meet Eddie Teach. Also Habakkuk and little Habakkuk live there I think.
I have yet to meet anyone.
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 12, 2011, 04:55:09 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
Yes, Japan is expensive.
80 to 1 is excellent. It was like 105 to 1 when I came to Korea, that's a huge improvement.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 05:04:57 AM
80 to 1 is excellent. It was like 105 to 1 when I came to Korea, that's a huge improvement.
Not for American tourists.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 12, 2011, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 05:04:57 AM
80 to 1 is excellent. It was like 105 to 1 when I came to Korea, that's a huge improvement.
Not for American tourists.
I want to work there.
The Japanese economy will crash as soon as you arrive.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
:unsure:
Planning a holiday?
I've been assured again and again that Japan isn't as expensive as its reputation dictates. That they have 100 yen shops puts things kind of in perspective.
We shall see.
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
:unsure:
Planning a holiday?
I've been assured again and again that Japan isn't as expensive as its reputation dictates. That they have 100 yen shops puts things kind of in perspective.
We shall see.
When I was there, even at about 90 yen to the $, I saw a number of items, also available in the U.S., at significantly higher prices.
Also, and more a sting to tourists, many of the hotels (I think maybe more the non-western Ryoken-style), charge a per-person rate comparable to what we'd charge over here for one room (with as much as 2-3 people).
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
:unsure:
Planning a holiday?
I've been assured again and again that Japan isn't as expensive as its reputation dictates. That they have 100 yen shops puts things kind of in perspective.
We shall see.
My 2nd contract ends in October. So, I've started looking for a new job. It might be a bit difficult to get one in a good area due to the fact that that's in the middle of a semester, however my qualifications and experience should more than make up for it. Worst comes to pass, I'll just go home and get a job at the start of the next semester.
Flying back today.
US Airlines 5202/OZ204 and American Airlines 192
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 05, 2011, 10:23:50 PM
Flying back today.
US Airlines 5202/OZ204 and American Airlines 192
I'm so going to follow your flight path!
Welcome back :)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
:unsure:
Planning a holiday?
I've been assured again and again that Japan isn't as expensive as its reputation dictates. That they have 100 yen shops puts things kind of in perspective.
We shall see.
My 2nd contract ends in October. So, I've started looking for a new job. It might be a bit difficult to get one in a good area due to the fact that that's in the middle of a semester, however my qualifications and experience should more than make up for it.
You entitled son of a bitch.
Welcome home. Did you bring me a replacement Korean? :)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 12, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
80 yen to the dollar :hmm:
:unsure:
Planning a holiday?
I've been assured again and again that Japan isn't as expensive as its reputation dictates. That they have 100 yen shops puts things kind of in perspective.
We shall see.
My 2nd contract ends in October. So, I've started looking for a new job. It might be a bit difficult to get one in a good area due to the fact that that's in the middle of a semester, however my qualifications and experience should more than make up for it. Worst comes to pass, I'll just go home and get a job at the start of the next semester.
Do you have another job lined up yet, or are you going to work it again from stateside?
Currently looking.
Good luck. I hope you get Japan...just two weeks there was awesome, I'd kill someone to be stationed over there.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 06, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
Good luck. I hope you get Japan...just two weeks there was awesome, I'd kill someone to be stationed over there.
A city or GTFO.
Don`t just hold out for a full English teacher position, that will be rather hard to get without Japanese, ALT roles can pay pretty well though if you get the right one. Some private companies though are very dubious.
Jet applications opened the other day I think- long wait before they hire but could be worthwhile to have as a fallback plan/something for the future after a bit of temping back home.
I'm headed to Shanghai this November, so don't overlook China. :)
http://www.tlg.gov.ge/ (http://www.tlg.gov.ge/)
Technically in Asia. ;)
How does one teach English abroad, anyway? I speak English at a 19th grade level.
You get involved with a sketchy private TEFL agency, a sketchy foreign government-run TEFL program (see above), or a (generally..) reputable U.S. federal agency.
Given that you have a law degree, if you joined the Peace Corps they'd probably put you to work teaching at a university somewhere or running (de facto, at least) some sort of human rights NGO.
For the actual teaching part, it involves pictures, videos, speaking slowly, using simple words and explaining things in words they already know. Plus correcting their usage and pronunciation, and answering your coteachers' questions on obscure points of English grammar (hint: just make something up)
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on October 06, 2011, 09:41:32 PM
You get involved with a sketchy private TEFL agency, a sketchy foreign government-run TEFL program (see above), or a (generally..) reputable U.S. federal agency.
Jet isn`t sketchy.
I think Korea has a non-sketchy one too.
Amusing to see Georgia has one though. It would be rather cool to do such a thing outside of East Asia. But in a war zone?...hmm....The pay sucks too.
And Ide, I certainly recommend applying to jet or the korean one whose name escapes me, just in case your job situation doesn`t pick up over the next year- hope it does but always prepare for the worst.
Quote from: Tyr on October 06, 2011, 11:20:21 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on October 06, 2011, 09:41:32 PM
You get involved with a sketchy private TEFL agency, a sketchy foreign government-run TEFL program (see above), or a (generally..) reputable U.S. federal agency.
Jet isn`t sketchy.
I think Korea has a non-sketchy one too.
Amusing to see Georgia has one though. It would be rather cool to do such a thing outside of East Asia. But in a war zone?...hmm....The pay sucks too.
And Ide, I certainly recommend applying to jet or the korean one whose name escapes me, just in case your job situation doesn`t pick up over the next year- hope it does but always prepare for the worst.
Korea has EPIK, which is what I did for 2 years, and I think Tim did that too (but not positive).
Korea, as well as China and probably Japan, have a lot of language institutes. In Korea they're called hagwons. Basically it's teaching kids after school and on weekends. Better pay, but riskier and odd hours.
I can elaborate on any if anyone wants.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 07, 2011, 12:05:28 AM
Korea has EPIK, which is what I did for 2 years, and I think Tim did that too (but not positive).
Korea, as well as China and probably Japan, have a lot of language institutes. In Korea they're called hagwons. Basically it's teaching kids after school and on weekends. Better pay, but riskier and odd hours.
I can elaborate on any if anyone wants.
Better pay? Really?
Wow, the Japanese version, Eikawas (IIRC) are considered the lowest of the low. Really bad pay and lame all round. Best is Jet and direct hires- though direct hires normally require one to have a fair few years experience first.
Dispatch companies....are dubious at best. Some more than others.
Quote from: Tyr on October 07, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 07, 2011, 12:05:28 AM
Korea has EPIK, which is what I did for 2 years, and I think Tim did that too (but not positive).
Korea, as well as China and probably Japan, have a lot of language institutes. In Korea they're called hagwons. Basically it's teaching kids after school and on weekends. Better pay, but riskier and odd hours.
I can elaborate on any if anyone wants.
Better pay? Really?
Wow, the Japanese version, Eikawas (IIRC) are considered the lowest of the low. Really bad pay and lame all round. Best is Jet and direct hires- though direct hires normally require one to have a fair few years experience first.
Dispatch companies....are dubious at best. Some more than others.
Yup, Hagwons pay better than the schools, generally. Some are scum that will rip you off and won't pay though. Not all.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 06, 2011, 10:08:43 PM
For the actual teaching part, it involves pictures, videos, speaking slowly, using simple words and explaining things in words they already know. Plus correcting their usage and pronunciation, and answering your coteachers' questions on obscure points of English grammar (hint: just make something up)
:lol:
I actually do know some obscure English grammar, e.g. the difference between "you" and "thou" and correct use of "whom."
Quote from: Ideologue on October 07, 2011, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 06, 2011, 10:08:43 PM
For the actual teaching part, it involves pictures, videos, speaking slowly, using simple words and explaining things in words they already know. Plus correcting their usage and pronunciation, and answering your coteachers' questions on obscure points of English grammar (hint: just make something up)
:lol:
I actually do know some obscure English grammar, e.g. the difference between "you" and "thou" and correct use of "whom."
You'll learn pretty quickly once you start teaching it. And odds are the local English teachers will know many more of the fine points, but you'll know which "sounds" better.
Unless they insist that they're right because you're using the idiosyncratic American variant instead of the proper British version (which was, most recently, "willn't").
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on October 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Unless they insist that they're right because you're using the idiosyncratic American variant instead of the proper British version (which was, most recently, "willn't").
They want the American variant.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on October 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Unless they insist that they're right because you're using the idiosyncratic American variant instead of the proper British version (which was, most recently, "willn't").
No way. I never heard that on Red Dwarf.
Abu Dhabi :hmm:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 20, 2011, 03:10:49 PM
Abu Dhabi :hmm:
Good pay but you have to live in an oppressive dictatorship.
OTOH, I'll be working in an oppressive dictatorship for little pay. :lol:
Is booze readily available for foreigners there? Its all that would get me through a year in that hot dusty desert.
I don't think my life would change much if I did live in an oppressive dictatorship (at least, so long as my Internet access remained unmonitored)...
...Wait, $3000 a month? Go wait tables, man.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 20, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
...Wait, $3000 a month? Go wait tables, man.
He said $3000-5000, and I doubt I'll be making much more than $4000 a month as a lawyer. :yeahright: (Being a public defender in most parts of the country averages a $45-50k salary, if I recall...)
Quote from: Ideologue on October 20, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
I don't think my life would change much if I did live in an oppressive dictatorship (at least, so long as my Internet access remained unmonitored)...
...Wait, $3000 a month? Go wait tables, man.
I saved 12k (paid down debt) the first year and 16k the second making $2000 a month in Korea.
And I went on two vacations to the Philippines and one to the US.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 20, 2011, 03:10:49 PM
Abu Dhabi :hmm:
Good pay but you have to live in an oppressive dictatorship.
OTOH, I'll be working in an oppressive dictatorship for little pay. :lol:
Is booze readily available for foreigners there? Its all that would get me through a year in that hot dusty desert.
All the military guys I know say that Abu Dhabi, the UAE, and those "safe" areas of the Mideast are like Las Vegas (though probably with less garbage).
Stop making me regret my decisions! :mad:
Though I'd still think Japan would be a gazillion times more enjoyable in one's off-time than the UAE.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 07:55:52 PM
Though I'd still think Japan would be a gazillion times more enjoyable in one's off-time than the UAE.
Or China, Vietnam, and Mongolia?
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 07:55:52 PM
Though I'd still think Japan would be a gazillion times more enjoyable in one's off-time than the UAE.
Or China, Vietnam, and Mongolia?
Or even the Ukraine. But I bet they're in last place as far as pay goes.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 07:55:52 PM
Though I'd still think Japan would be a gazillion times more enjoyable in one's off-time than the UAE.
Or China, Vietnam, and Mongolia?
Or even the Ukraine. But I bet they're in last place as far as pay goes.
Actually that's Georgia. $200 a month.
Next is Bhutan at $600
Bhutan would be cool on a mountain getaway sort of way.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Bhutan would be cool on a mountain getaway sort of way.
But in Georgia, you have a fair shot at becoming a Russian PoW.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2011, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Bhutan would be cool on a mountain getaway sort of way.
But in Georgia, you have a fair shot at becoming a Russian PoW.
Can I become Batman in a Russian prison camp? :)
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 21, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2011, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Bhutan would be cool on a mountain getaway sort of way.
But in Georgia, you have a fair shot at becoming a Russian PoW.
Can I become Batman in a Russian prison camp? :)
I must have missed that Batman movie.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2011, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 21, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2011, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Bhutan would be cool on a mountain getaway sort of way.
But in Georgia, you have a fair shot at becoming a Russian PoW.
Can I become Batman in a Russian prison camp? :)
I must have missed that Batman movie.
In Begins he started training in a Chinese prison.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 20, 2011, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 20, 2011, 07:55:52 PM
Though I'd still think Japan would be a gazillion times more enjoyable in one's off-time than the UAE.
Or China, Vietnam, and Mongolia?
Or even the Ukraine. But I bet they're in last place as far as pay goes.
Actually that's Georgia. $200 a month.
Next is Bhutan at $600
Those fuckers get $200 a month? :ultra: That's about 25 bucks more than I make... though I'm paid in lari, so hopefully the exchange rate will keep deteriorating.
I sometimes want to just become a professional English teacher. If I alternated places like Abu Dhabi with places like Bhutan, I could probably save up some decent money.
Only problems are that I'd have to get rid of my new-ish car, and I wouldn't have any permanent home to store all my stuff.
I pass, like night, from land to land. I have strange power of speech. That moment that his face I see, I know the man that must hear me. To him Swedish I teach.
Quote from: The Brain on October 22, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
I pass, like night, from land to land. I have strange power of speech. That moment that his face I see, I know the man that must hear me. To him Swedish I teach.
:lol:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 20, 2011, 05:27:08 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 20, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
...Wait, $3000 a month? Go wait tables, man.
He said $3000-5000, and I doubt I'll be making much more than $4000 a month as a lawyer. :yeahright: (Being a public defender in most parts of the country averages a $45-50k salary, if I recall...)
I was being a little facetious. But you're right. That spectrum really does make a lot of difference: $36k is about what bottom-of-the-barrel doc review work gets here. And you don't have to live in the UAE.
Also, I misread his figure, so it turns out. $3500 vs. 3000.
Does anyone know the etymology of 'schlong'? Did it work its way into Yiddish via Russian somehow? It means 'hose' in Georgian.
Tyr, filling out a JET application as a backup. It went up late in the states this year.
What is the driving situation there for foreigners? Would you chance it?
I assume preferring a rural posting will get me much more likely to be selected, but I imagine that will that make me a lot more likely to drive as well.
Has it really only been two years since Tim started this thread? Yeah, I think Malthus's theory about time speeding up as you get older is a load of baloney.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 03, 2011, 10:02:07 PM
Tyr, filling out a JET application as a backup. It went up late in the states this year.
What is the driving situation there for foreigners? Would you chance it?
I assume preferring a rural posting will get me much more likely to be selected, but I imagine that will that make me a lot more likely to drive as well.
Lots of people complain about Japanese drivers sucking and certainly a lot of the roads in estates are pretty small. My one encounter with driving here though was pretty fine and I don't know anyone who has had an accident beyond one girl who got bumped somewhat by an old woman.
And no, picking rural won't make you more likely to be picked. It will make it more likely you get your first pick but not more likely to get picked at all, just pick places you can come up with good reasons for picking (as why you picked your places is something they will pick up on in the interview).
I'd recommend picking a little known city, gives you a bit of city excitement but means you won't be competing with a bazillion Tokyo or busters. Kobe I know for instance has a fuck-tonne of Jets and then there's lots of other small cities that could be worth picking- Sendai for instance is apparently pretty much back to normal and awesome and has quite a few Jets. Then there are even lesser known cities out there with decent links to Tokyo or Osaka and respectable populations of their own.
Oh, and a warning, be careful with mentioning anime.
Arrived yesterday. Looking forward to apartment hunting this weekend.
Little kids should be banned from all international flights. Or put in the cargo hold.
Tyr and Tim, you should th go to Shanghai for vacation. :)
Hey Tim check out EF English First. Theyre in Japan too.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 04, 2011, 05:51:44 AM
Arrived yesterday. Looking forward to apartment hunting this weekend.
Little kids should be banned from all international flights. Or put in the cargo hold.
Tyr and Tim, you should th go to Shanghai for vacation. :)
It is really high on my list actually.
Flights in Asia are expensive though, and China has shitty visa stuff.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 04, 2011, 05:57:19 AM
Hey Tim check out EF English First. Theyre in Japan too.
What are they? Recruiting agency?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 04, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 04, 2011, 05:57:19 AM
Hey Tim check out EF English First. Theyre in Japan too.
What are they? Recruiting agency?
It's a language school. They have schools for adults and for kids - the one for kids is where I'm teaching. It's after school and on weekends, and you get 2 days off during the week, at least at my school. It also has pretty fast promotion, it seems - the director of the branch I'm at has been an English teacher for just over 2 years or so.
Swedish founder of EF Bertil Hult is rich even by Languish standards. :wub:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2011, 06:50:23 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 04, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 04, 2011, 05:57:19 AM
Hey Tim check out EF English First. Theyre in Japan too.
What are they? Recruiting agency?
It's a language school. They have schools for adults and for kids - the one for kids is where I'm teaching. It's after school and on weekends, and you get 2 days off during the week, at least at my school. It also has pretty fast promotion, it seems - the director of the branch I'm at has been an English teacher for just over 2 years or so.
How much are you making?
Tim = rude.
Got a bunch of hits lately.
I'm thinking of a job in Cheonan, it's small city on the end of line 1. I'd be making 2.5 a month.
Got contacted by English first. Tell me more about them HMBOB. It's less money than I'd make in Korea, but I still might consider it depending on how you sell it to me.
EDIT: Doesn't seem to be much vacation time.
2.5 what? Children?
Quote from: Tyr on November 14, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
Come to Japan. Even interac pays more than that, and they suck. :p
But you can save a hell of a lot more in Korea than you can in Japan. If I can get a job in Japan I'll go just because I love Japanese culture.
I'm meeting one of my classes for the first time today. I'll be giving them two quizzes and the end-of-unit test because it's their last class. :lol:
The joys of being a "replacement teacher".
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2011, 12:42:34 PM
Got a bunch of hits lately.
I'm thinking of a job in Cheonan, it's small city on the end of line 1. I'd be making 2.5 a month.
Got contacted by English first. Tell me more about them HMBOB. It's less money than I'd make in Korea, but I still might consider it depending on how you sell it to me.
EDIT: Doesn't seem to be much vacation time.
Yeah, but you get a bunch of days off around the national holidays. Chinese New Year is like a week off.
I'll be teaching at a Girl's high school. :mellow:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 07, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
I'll be teaching at a Girl's high school. :mellow:
Seedy is going to fly over and steal your identity.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 07, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
I'll be teaching at a Girl's high school. :mellow:
Which country?
As most boys are utterly clueless as students up until around age 17 or 18, teaching girls is generally way easier than teaching boys... up until grade 12 or so, when the boys catch up. This is particularly true when it comes to English. So if I were you, I would be happy with that assignment.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 07, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
I'll be teaching at a Girl's high school. :mellow:
Hawt?
In Korea?
Korea
Heading out tomorrow on AA #1899 and Asiana #221. :)
OPSEC? :rolleyes:
Tim's gonna get a tap on the shoulder from an Anab. :(
I used to know the daughter of the Asiana founder and owner. Screaming hot half Korean with blue eyes.
How well did you know her?
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2009, 10:45:53 AM
Are there any American government schools abroad? We have those in the major cities of the world and state-employed teachers can teach there for a couple of years getting their usual salary and benefits etc. and afterwards returning into a safe job at home.
That's a good suggestion. and don't forget to save because you'll never know...
I'm alive!
Situation: Awesome.
Will post more latter this week after I get a power adapter in Seoul.
Living in the center of a town of 40k on a main highway, just seven minutes walk from my school. Commuter rail's maybe a 10-12 minute walk, and a high speed rail station is within a $5 cab ride. 45 minutes to Seoul by KTX. :cool:
25 minutes by bus from Cheongju and Cheonan, cities with 550-660k people. I'm 30-35 minutes from Daejon which has a million.
My apartment is bigger than my last one. :)
Nice :)
Bet the apartments cheaper too
Oh, and have fun with all the giggling and color pink :P
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 13, 2011, 11:47:15 PM
Nice :)
Bet the apartments cheaper too
Oh, and have fun with all the giggling and color pink :P
No. It got two full rooms plus the laundry room and bathroom with cable, internet and water thrown in for a total of 500k. District only covers 400k, me and school will split the extra 100k. I don't mind, I'm pulling in 2.5 million per month plus 100k for being "rural".
Got to do a vacation on short planning. How 'bout I hang with you in Shanghai? My vacation will be January 21-Feb1st
You're not that far from Taechon Timmy, where I spent all my summers growing up.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 13, 2011, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 13, 2011, 11:47:15 PM
Nice :)
Bet the apartments cheaper too
Oh, and have fun with all the giggling and color pink :P
No. It got two full rooms plus the laundry room and bathroom with cable, internet and water thrown in for a total of 500k. District only covers 400k, me and school will split the extra 100k. I don't mind, I'm pulling in 2.5 million per month plus 100k for being "rural".
Got to do a vacation on short planning. How 'bout I hang with you in Shanghai? My vacation will be January 21-Feb1st
Pre-tax?
2.5 million you say?
Certainly sounds good :D
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 13, 2011, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 13, 2011, 11:47:15 PM
Nice :)
Bet the apartments cheaper too
Oh, and have fun with all the giggling and color pink :P
No. It got two full rooms plus the laundry room and bathroom with cable, internet and water thrown in for a total of 500k. District only covers 400k, me and school will split the extra 100k. I don't mind, I'm pulling in 2.5 million per month plus 100k for being "rural".
Got to do a vacation on short planning. How 'bout I hang with you in Shanghai? My vacation will be January 21-Feb1st
Sure. I haven't really explored the bars and stuff much yet sadly. Various crap keep distracting me, like getting my internet working.
I'll have days off around Chinese New Year, which is sometime in late Jan, I think? Also a couple of days around New Years Day, but some of that might be nixed due to training, winter camp, or some crap.
My school will undergo construction, giving me days off - that will start Dec 26 and last a week or two or three.
I'm thinking about going to Thailand, Indonesia or someplace with nice beaches for scuba diving and stuff around Chinese New Year. I'd want to do about a week there, so we could coordinate and meet up there. Shanghai is only slightly warmer than Korea in winter, but manages to somehow be drearier. Must be the constant cloud cover and/or smog.
And your salary makes me sad. :(
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 13, 2011, 11:09:14 PM
Living in the center of a town of 40k
The Emperor protects.
My gas got cut off last night! This morning was so cold! :(
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 14, 2011, 11:42:40 AM
Sure. I haven't really explored the bars and stuff much yet sadly. Various crap keep distracting me, like getting my internet working.
I'll have days off around Chinese New Year, which is sometime in late Jan, I think? Also a couple of days around New Years Day, but some of that might be nixed due to training, winter camp, or some crap.
My school will undergo construction, giving me days off - that will start Dec 26 and last a week or two or three.
I'm thinking about going to Thailand, Indonesia or someplace with nice beaches for scuba diving and stuff around Chinese New Year. I'd want to do about a week there, so we could coordinate and meet up there. Shanghai is only slightly warmer than Korea in winter, but manages to somehow be drearier. Must be the constant cloud cover and/or smog.
Sounds good. How about Vietnam?
Facebook me with details.
Here's a good map even though it uses the old translation system.
I live in Cochiwon (now called Jochiwon) in South Chungchong (Chungnam)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezilon.com%2Fmaps%2Fimages%2Fasia%2Fpolitical-map-of-South-Kore.gif&hash=8c3164ffc7888c351d9bfb34cb0b89a5fbe36796)
:blinks:
Holy shit did the world just turn upside down; Tim posts a realistic map. :blinks:*2
:P
I used to live just above the G in Goyang.
QuoteSouth Chungchong (Chungnam)
:lol:
See why they changed that, sounds like a racist slur against east asians.
Though I notice it is actually west not south...:hmm:
Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2011, 06:50:29 AM
QuoteSouth Chungchong (Chungnam)
:lol:
See why they changed that, sounds like a racist slur against east asians.
Though I notice it is actually west not south...:hmm:
They use the same suffix as Cholla and Kyongsan, so that's an accurate translation even though it doesn't make sense.
Logistical constraints mean that Thailand/Cambodia or Vietnam are off the table.
Me HMBOB are off to Taiwan!
I hope I don't get detained there or on my return. :ph34r:
Correcting essays for a contest on "People, Animals and Society".
There are only so many sob stories in broken English about how my dog/cat died from cancer a man can take! :bleeding:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
I used to live just above the G in Goyang.
It must be hell on traffic.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 04, 2012, 02:24:22 AM
Correcting essays for a contest on "People, Animals and Society".
There are only so many sob stories in broken English about how my dog/cat died from cancer a man can take! :bleeding:
Any "my parents cooked my dog for dinner" stories yet?
And I want to note that I now really like teaching younger kids more than older kids. Kindergarten and pre-K kids are always motivated and, except for a few who are spoiled rotten at home, easy to keep disciplined. Take my summer courses: the kids in my Storytellers course (5-6 years old) are excited and happy to do the activities, especially anything that keeps them active and movie. It's fun! Then the teens and preteens in my other course (~12-15 years old) are low-level, bored even by videos and create activities, and refuse to do anything where they have to get up or be active.
If I lived in Korea I would have to get a bumper sticker - "A dog is for life, not just for breakfast!" :P
Been watching the show Pasta on NFLX. I have one question.
Is "Unni" some kind of equivalent to "stupid bitch", or does it apply to any woman in a generic sense? I figured out about episode three that this was not actually a name, but a colloquialism.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 04, 2012, 02:26:45 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 28, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
I used to live just above the G in Goyang.
It must be hell on traffic.
Psstt... There's not actually a giant letter G blocking the highway. :whisper:
Any of you teacher types not exclusively single dudes? I might try to talk my mom into going for a couple years. Who knows, maybe she'll consider having an adventure before she retires.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 29, 2014, 01:26:59 AM
Any of you teacher types not exclusively single dudes? I might try to talk my mom into going for a couple years. Who knows, maybe she'll consider having an adventure before she retires.
When I was a kid, I had both male and female native English teachers. They were all exclusively very young though. They looked like they were in their 20s.
They're taking older folks these days if they're well qualified.
Well she's 60ish and has been teaching elementary for more years than most of us have been alive. Master's degree.
I'm guessing age is the barrier, not qualifications. I doubt she'd want to keep doing it for more than a couple years. Your contracts seem to be sort of short-term in any case though.
Typically yearly unless she gets a job at an international school.
It's possible she'll get hired, but the odds are against her I think. The people that old that I've seen here got here in their early 50s.
I'd like to think this is a viable career path post-military, but by that time....I am sure they'd think a 40's, single male applicant is likely just an old pervert.
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 29, 2014, 08:49:22 PM
I'd like to think this is a viable career path post-military, but by that time....I am sure they'd think a 40's, single male applicant is likely just an old pervert.
You could teach "english" to rebel groups in Myanmar.
"Today we learn the words governing fire discipline and marksmanship. Repeat after me: when targeting Burmese women and children that are running away, don't lead them as much as with the men."
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 29, 2014, 08:49:22 PM
I'd like to think this is a viable career path post-military, but by that time....I am sure they'd think a 40's, single male applicant is likely just an old pervert.
Well I mean it does seem like a sort of odd thing for a 40 something to want to do as a "career path".
Well, it'd really be a "something to do for fun/adventure when retired" kinda career path.
Teach children? Nope. :P
I'd like to think of the teaching as more of a cover to experience the grandeur of Japan and maybe go after appropriately-aged Japanese MILFs. :mad:
At my crappy job in Tokyo were a few older people, including a woman who had to be near retirement age.
ALT work is the best stuff and it generally does have an age restriction of 35 or so. Big preference for young people.
Eikaiwa work is subhuman grunt work not suitable for anyone with a inch of self-respect. But its open to anyone who speaks English and has a pulse.
Neither are career options.
Though if someone is a proper professional teacher then getting a real teaching job at an international school is an option.