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Title: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on November 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Time for this.

Wyoming is 1-0 for the season, beating a formerly undefeated UT-Martin squad that is now 0-1.  As long as no Wyoming player kicks someone in the head in a late night bar fight this year the team should do better than last year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on November 09, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
No idea what to expect from UDub, they lost three seniors from a mediocre 18-16 team, have a couple of transfers and highly touted frosh guard, but who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on November 09, 2013, 06:48:59 PM
Arizona has ridiculously high expectations.

I mean, they are going to be very good, but there are a lot of freshman on this team, and I don't care how highly touted you are, freshman and still (mostly) freshman.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on November 09, 2013, 07:02:42 PM
Texas still has Rick Barnes coaching, so.....welp.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2013, 07:33:46 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Time for this.

Wyoming is 1-0 for the season, beating a formerly undefeated UT-Martin squad that is now 0-1.  As long as no Wyoming player kicks someone in the head in a late night bar fight this year the team should do better than last year.
:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 09, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Last time I checked the Hoyas were getting clobbered by Oregon at Camp Humphries, Korea.  No idea who's on the team this year.

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Time for this.

Lenny Bias is still dead.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on November 09, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Hey, my Wright State Raiders get the honor of being buttraped by the Hoyas on the 13th.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on November 09, 2013, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Time for this.

Lenny Bias is still dead.

You are living in the past.  If I was I would be singing the praises of Kenny Sailors (look him up).
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on November 10, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
Well, after last night it is apparent that this is all I have now.  Go Pokes!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on November 10, 2013, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: PDH on November 09, 2013, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: PDH on November 09, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Time for this.

Lenny Bias is still dead.

You are living in the past.  If I was I would be singing the praises of Kenny Sailors (look him up).

What about Fennis Dembo?  :cry:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on November 10, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: sbr on November 10, 2013, 10:32:36 AM

What about Fennis Dembo?  :cry:

Oh those were the years.  I was first at the University, Wyoming went to the NCAAs regularly.  The beer flowed like wine after the defeat of UCLA and Reggie Miller I can tell you.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on November 11, 2013, 07:16:40 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 09, 2013, 06:48:59 PM
Arizona has ridiculously high expectations.

I mean, they are going to be very good, but there are a lot of freshman on this team, and I don't care how highly touted you are, freshman and still (mostly) freshman.

Ditto for Michigan.  They were the youngest team in The Dance last year, and will be even younger this year.  Of the fifteen men on the team, 6 are freshmen and 6 are sophomores.  There is one senior, one junior,, and one redshirt sophomore.

Overall-talent-wise, they are probably better than the national championship game team last year, but will require the same kind of luck that last year's team had if they want to get deep into the tournament.  I think that this year's team will require more coaching, since it lacks the superstar player, but it has the skills and depth needed to match up with pretty much anyone.

My prediction is that they will win a share of the Big Ten championship and fall in the round of sixteen.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 11, 2013, 07:19:37 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 09, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Last time I checked the Hoyas were getting clobbered by Oregon at Camp Humphries, Korea.  No idea who's on the team this year.

This is probably why I thought you went to Georgetown.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on November 12, 2013, 11:34:42 PM
Texas overcomes mighty South Alabama.

The plan this year seems to be to run a zone until Texas gets behind and then switch to man-to-man and win.  I am not sure why we just skip the part where we play zone and just go right to the plan that wins but maybe this is how Barnes gets his opponents to become complacent.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on November 13, 2013, 12:32:00 AM
Enjoyed seeing UK get beaten tonight.  If Kansas can hold on to beat Duke (on a game that Dukie Vitale is calling, no less) I'll be even happier.  Might even forget about WVU losing that tough game to Va Tech tonight.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on November 13, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
Two fun games to watch last night.  I was happy to see that Wiggins deals with the pressure of his notoriety well.  I especially liked to see how he imposed himself on the game in the final minutes.

Watching Kentucky lose was a big bonus.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on November 30, 2013, 01:53:07 AM
Jabari Parker.
Jabari Parker.
Jabari Parker.
Jabari Parker.
Jabari Parker.
Jabari Parker.
Duke
Duke
Duke
Parker.

Blahfuckingblahfuckingblah.

Teams win games, I would not trade any Arizona starter for any Duke starter, and that includes Parker.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on December 09, 2013, 08:50:43 PM
I haven't really been paying attention this year, anyone know how Arizona is doing?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on December 09, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 09, 2013, 08:50:43 PM
I haven't really been paying attention this year, anyone know how Arizona is doing?

Getting ready to be upset in the second round by 8th seeded Texas looks like.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on December 10, 2013, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on December 09, 2013, 08:50:43 PM
I haven't really been paying attention this year, anyone know how Arizona is doing?

They need someone like Jabari Parker
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on December 10, 2013, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 10, 2013, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on December 09, 2013, 08:50:43 PM
I haven't really been paying attention this year, anyone know how Arizona is doing?

They need someone like Jabari Parker

If only.

I was briefly considering driving to Ann Arbor for the Michigan game. It is about 6 hours across the Desolation of Canada to the Greater Desolation of Detroit.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on December 14, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
That was one hell of a game at Michigan today. Gritty and hard fought. I thought that Arizona was toast when Michigan was in the bonus with 8 minutes left and a 8 point lead.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on December 14, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 14, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
That was one hell of a game at Michigan today. Gritty and hard fought. I thought that Arizona was toast when Michigan was in the bonus with 8 minutes left and a 8 point lead.
I was pretty pleased with that game, even with the result being what it was.  You gotta play the best to be the best, and a very young Michigan team saw exactly what they need to do if they want to go the distance come the Big ten tournament and the Big Dance.  Arizona played to its strengths very well, and Michigan couldn't find a way to stop them from getting offensive rebounds.  That was the difference.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 14, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
That was definitely a fun game to watch. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on December 15, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 14, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 14, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
That was one hell of a game at Michigan today. Gritty and hard fought. I thought that Arizona was toast when Michigan was in the bonus with 8 minutes left and a 8 point lead.
I was pretty pleased with that game, even with the result being what it was.  You gotta play the best to be the best, and a very young Michigan team saw exactly what they need to do if they want to go the distance come the Big ten tournament and the Big Dance.  Arizona played to its strengths very well, and Michigan couldn't find a way to stop them from getting offensive rebounds.  That was the difference.

I don't see anyone stopping Arizona on the glass. The only issue I had with Arizona's play was they didn't take it back strong to the bucket, and we would see shot-rebound-shot-rebound-shot-rebound. With the size Arizona has in the paint, they need to finish those bunny shots. If they had done that, it would have been a much more "comfortable" game, even with the Wolverines seemingly hitting 3's whenever they wanted.

Michigan was a very good team, and I am kind of puzzled how they dropped 3 other games.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on January 10, 2014, 09:59:04 AM
My brother & I are driving up with our boys tomorrow to go watch the WVU-Oklahoma State game in Morgantown.  Been ages since I saw a game there.  WVU is 2-0 so far in Big 12 conference play, albeit against the two weakest teams in the conference. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on January 10, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 10, 2014, 09:59:04 AM
My brother & I are driving up with our boys tomorrow to go watch the WVU-Oklahoma State game in Morgantown.  Been ages since I saw a game there.  WVU is 2-0 so far in Big 12 conference play, albeit against the two weakest teams in the conference. 

Texas has had a brutal start.  State of Oklahoma 2 Texas 0 :weep:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on January 13, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
Man must win tonight against the fightin' Hugginses.  Texas cannot start 1-3 in this murderer's row of conferences.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on January 13, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
They're getting it done tonight.  WVU's year is about over.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on January 13, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 13, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
They're getting it done tonight.  WVU's year is about over.

Yeah this is not what I expected.  WVU must still be tired from their game against OSU.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on January 22, 2014, 09:35:35 PM
Berkut, I think you are seeing with Michigan what I talked about earlier:  play a tough OOC schedule, take some losses, but learn to deal with adversity.  Michigan is ranked #25, but has knocked off the #3 team on the road, and the #10 team at home, and is undefeated in Big Ten play.  The showdown this Saturday at #3 MSU is playing with house money; even a loss there will not hurt Michigan much, and the post-McGary Michigan lineup will get exactly the test it needs.  The Big Ten is about defending home court and winning a couple big road games.  Michigan has one of the two big road wins it needs, and nobody else in the conference has done so.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on January 22, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 22, 2014, 09:35:35 PM
Berkut, I think you are seeing with Michigan what I talked about earlier:  play a tough OOC schedule, take some losses, but learn to deal with adversity.  Michigan is ranked #25, but has knocked off the #3 team on the road, and the #10 team at home, and is undefeated in Big Ten play.  The showdown this Saturday at #3 MSU is playing with house money; even a loss there will not hurt Michigan much, and the post-McGary Michigan lineup will get exactly the test it needs.  The Big Ten is about defending home court and winning a couple big road games.  Michigan has one of the two big road wins it needs, and nobody else in the conference has done so.

Yep, I cannot agree more - this is the model that Olson preached at Arizona, and I am very glad Miller has embraced it.

Play some touch games OOC, because if you are good, you will win some as well, and a decent record against excellent opponents does not hurt you at all come tourney selection time. And more importantly, it gets you ready for conference play, which is what really matters. Win at home, split on the road+1 is typically a conference winning formula.

Of course, Arizona this year is simplifying things a bit by just winning every game.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on January 25, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
26 seconds left. Meat chicken is making their free throws, but Sparty keeps dropping 3s. Fun game.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on January 25, 2014, 09:22:25 PM
Nice win for Michigan.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on January 25, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 25, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
26 seconds left. Meat chicken is making their free throws, but Sparty keeps dropping 3s. Fun game.
Meat chicken?  :huh:  :lmfao:

Yeah, it is a great game, but MSU doesn't have two stars, while Michigan is only down one star. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on January 25, 2014, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 25, 2014, 09:22:25 PM
Nice win for Michigan.
Absolutely huge for the conference title.  That's the two road wins M needed against the major competitors, so they aren't screwed if they drop an unexpected loss, like last year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on January 25, 2014, 11:02:15 PM
Butler's struggles in the Big East gives me the giggles.

Fuck Butler.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 26, 2014, 01:24:26 AM
Quote from: grumbler on January 25, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Meat chicken?  :huh:  :lmfao:

Much tastier than the vegetarian kind.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on January 26, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Here's a stat I like: Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, & Michigan State have a combined 39-5 record at home this year. Michigan is responsible for 4 of those losses.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 01, 2014, 06:30:17 PM
:punk:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2014, 08:10:56 PM
WVU beat a decent team!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on February 02, 2014, 01:25:33 AM
Sorry Berk, was hoping for Cats to keep streak going.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on February 02, 2014, 03:16:19 AM
I would have been surprised if they didn't drop one in Cali. They are a very good team, but they have vulnerabilities, and at some point it was going to catch up with them. You just aren't going to go undefeated in the Pac-12, not anymore. And when you are #1 and undefeated, every team you face comes out playing their very best. Cal was just ridiculous in the that game. Everything they threw up went in. Shrug.

Nick Johnson just had a terrible night as well.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on February 12, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
Wyoming beats number 5 San Diego State in Laramie.  This team has scrapped all year, and lost a few by very close margins, so it is good to see they pulled this one out.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on February 12, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: PDH on February 12, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
Wyoming beats number 5 San Diego State in Laramie.  This team has scrapped all year, and lost a few by very close margins, so it is good to see they pulled this one out.

That's a great win for Wyoming.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 12, 2014, 09:34:13 AM
WVU just destroyed #11 Iowa State a couple nights ago, 102-77, and the leading scorer was a French dude, to boot.  I guess this is the time of the season to start getting hot.  If WVU splits the rest of their games & maybe adds another quality win plus a win in the first round of the Big 12 tournament, I don't see how they can be kept out of the big dance.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on February 12, 2014, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 12, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: PDH on February 12, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
Wyoming beats number 5 San Diego State in Laramie.  This team has scrapped all year, and lost a few by very close margins, so it is good to see they pulled this one out.

That's a great win for Wyoming.

Big win indeed.  Wyoming went to OT vs New Mexico, had a chance to go to OT vs UNLV before a shot didn't fall...things just didn't happen.  San Diego State had won 20 in a row, but Wyoming put it together last night.  There is a chance Wyoming could end up number 3 in the conference, and that would be important to rebuilding the program.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 15, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
So ESPN/Fox decided not to pick up the WVU-Texas game so it reverted to the Longhorn Network, which is prickishly not sharing it for broadcast in West Virginia.  So now I need to figure a way to access an online Longhorn Network stream.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on February 15, 2014, 09:07:26 PM
Wyoming is now 4th in the Mountain West - the boys from Laramie just held San Jose State to a 9 point second half.  While that is a "woof woof" of a game to watch or listen to, it is sweet music to my ears.  Now the brown and gold just needs to win out...and I mean all the way through the NCAAs...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on February 19, 2014, 08:23:25 AM
Wyoming beat Fresno State last night, 72-66.  They are a half game out of 3rd in the Mountain West.  Still, the big news was awful.  Larry Nance, Jr went down with 14 minutes left in the 2nd with an apparent blown knee.  The best player, rebounder, shooter, everything for the team.

That end of the court is cursed.  A decade ago the last real great player from the state of Wyoming, Marcus Bailey blew out his knee going for a simple layup.

God hates the Cowboys - just when they seem on the cusp of something, there is the cold reminder that this is Wyoming.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on February 19, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 15, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
So ESPN/Fox decided not to pick up the WVU-Texas game so it reverted to the Longhorn Network, which is prickishly not sharing it for broadcast in West Virginia.  So now I need to figure a way to access an online Longhorn Network stream.

Sorry man.  I did think that was absurd.  I hope you caught a good stream.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 19, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 19, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 15, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
So ESPN/Fox decided not to pick up the WVU-Texas game so it reverted to the Longhorn Network, which is prickishly not sharing it for broadcast in West Virginia.  So now I need to figure a way to access an online Longhorn Network stream.

Sorry man.  I did think that was absurd.  I hope you caught a good stream.

Some dude had it on ustream but it got taken down early in the 2nd half.  WVU was well behind at that point, so I guess I had seen enough.  WVU is looking like an NIT team and I'm okay with that as long as they make a good run in it.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on February 19, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
Ugh, torn ACL.  Good thing his father has connections from his NBA days. Maybe some of that stem-cell magic could come into play.  Nance may never play for the Cowboys again, but in a couple of years he could be back to real playing shape with some of that new magic.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 20, 2014, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 15, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
So ESPN/Fox decided not to pick up the WVU-Texas game so it reverted to the Longhorn Network, which is prickishly not sharing it for broadcast in West Virginia.  So now I need to figure a way to access an online Longhorn Network stream.

The LHN is an ESPN network.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 20, 2014, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 15, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
So ESPN/Fox decided not to pick up the WVU-Texas game so it reverted to the Longhorn Network, which is prickishly not sharing it for broadcast in West Virginia.  So now I need to figure a way to access an online Longhorn Network stream.

The LHN is an ESPN network.

Fine, but it wasn't available for streaming like most ESPN games are.  Otherwise it would've been a simple matter of firing up the Xbox & watching it there.  Or watching it on my laptop/tablet.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 20, 2014, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
Fine, but it wasn't available for streaming like most ESPN games are.  Otherwise it would've been a simple matter of firing up the Xbox & watching it there.  Or watching it on my laptop/tablet.

Yeah, that part sucks.  They stream it for LHN subscribers only, like ESPN3 is only available for people who have service through certain companies (or certain combinations of companies). 

Speaking of which, I wonder if TWC, now that they've been bought by/merged with/whatever Comcast (or will be bought unless blocked by the gubmint), will still only allow ESPN3 for people with both their cable and internet service.

E:  Oh yeah.  Syracuse lost to BC.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 20, 2014, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
Fine, but it wasn't available for streaming like most ESPN games are.  Otherwise it would've been a simple matter of firing up the Xbox & watching it there.  Or watching it on my laptop/tablet.

Yeah, that part sucks.  They stream it for LHN subscribers only, like ESPN3 is only available for people who have service through certain companies (or certain combinations of companies). 

Speaking of which, I wonder if TWC, now that they've been bought by/merged with/whatever Comcast (or will be bought unless blocked by the gubmint), will still only allow ESPN3 for people with both their cable and internet service.

E:  Oh yeah.  Syracuse lost to BC.

I get ESPN3 as I'm a Time Warner customer, but when I clicked through the deliberately misleading "watch this game now!" link on ESPN.com, all ended up with was an online form to for me to tell TWC to get off its keister and pay for LHN :(
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on February 20, 2014, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
Fine, but it wasn't available for streaming like most ESPN games are.  Otherwise it would've been a simple matter of firing up the Xbox & watching it there.  Or watching it on my laptop/tablet.

ESPN is weird about the LHN.  The network was never supposed to be about Men's Basketball or Football (well outside of the games against Northeastern Virginia Polytechnic in the OOC schedule).  It is supposed to be about the non-revenue sports and doing analysis and showing old games.  Them trying to use this for leverage is annoying...or was until I got the LHN.  Man it is awesome, not sure how I got along without it.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on February 20, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 20, 2014, 11:20:03 AM
I get ESPN3 as I'm a Time Warner customer, but when I clicked through the deliberately misleading "watch this game now!" link on ESPN.com, all ended up with was an online form to for me to tell TWC to get off its keister and pay for LHN :(

TWC has the LHN.  Or it does in Texas, I figured it would one of those fancy specialty sports stations outside of Texas but I guess not.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 20, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 20, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
TWC has the LHN.  Or it does in Texas, I figured it would one of those fancy specialty sports stations outside of Texas but I guess not.

I think it's just inside Texas on TWC.  Maybe Oklahoma too.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Sophie Scholl on February 23, 2014, 04:27:04 AM
Fucking basketball.  There is so much damn crying and bitching here over the Syracuse - Duke finish it's insane.  You want to blame someone, Cuse fans?  Don't blame the ref who had to make a bang bang call, blame your coach for losing his shit and rushing the court.  Boeheim is always on the court and bitching, he finally got called on it.  Seems reasonable.  I just wish it wasn't against Duke, as I loathe them as well.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 23, 2014, 02:38:11 PM
That Boeheim technical was awesome.  I loved the slo mo footage of the ref staring him down as he tosses him.

As for the call, I think it would have made for a better no call (and not just because of the game situation) but NOT a blatantly wrong call.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on February 23, 2014, 09:18:16 PM
That cannot possibly be a no-call. Way too much contact.

That is either a block or a charge. A no-call is a no-balls call.

I think you can defend either call, even with the new rules, it is another of those bang-bang block/charge calls that can go either way - it is certainly the case that the official who made the call had a hell of a lot better look at it than Boeheim.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 23, 2014, 09:52:29 PM
The case for the no call is the Orangemen man-boy (I think it was Pharr) was mostly jumping vertically.  He didn't really run through the defender.  It was actually an incredibly athletic play.

Which is not so my pleasure at Boeheim's ejection is diminished in any way.  Syracuse may have jumped ship to the ACC, but I still get a lot of pleasure out of seeing them lose.  Plus Boeheim looks a terrible coach to play for: a vinagery old sourpuss who's constantly bitching at his players.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on February 25, 2014, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2014, 09:18:16 PM
That cannot possibly be a no-call. Way too much contact.

That is either a block or a charge. A no-call is a no-balls call.

I think you can defend either call, even with the new rules, it is another of those bang-bang block/charge calls that can go either way - it is certainly the case that the official who made the call had a hell of a lot better look at it than Boeheim.

Its a tough call that really depends on what angle you have and what you are focusing on in the instant it happens.  At a tournament I was at the other week one ref emphatically called a block and the other just as emphatically called a charge - at the same time.  A bit embarrassing for them both.

As a player I thought the refs normally got it right; there are times when it could go either way and then there are those times when everyone knows the ref blew the call and there is a makeup coming...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on February 25, 2014, 03:32:01 PM
The Jim Boeheim memes are outstanding.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2014/2/23/5439322/jim-boeheim-ejection-meme-jacket-syracuse-coach

That sight doesn't have the ski jump on, which is my second favorite, behind the Michael Jackson one.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 04, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Michigan is really peaking at the right time.  In tonight's game they scored a higher percentage of 3-pointers (16 out of 23, or 70%) than Illinois did free throws (11 out of 16, or 69%)! 

Illinois scored the same number of points (53) tonight as they did Saturday at Michigan State.  With that score they beat State by 7 and lost to Michigan by 31.

And with that, Michigan wins its first outright Big Ten title since the 85-86 season. Man, that was a long drought!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 05, 2014, 11:47:30 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 19, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Some dude had it on ustream but it got taken down early in the 2nd half.  WVU was well behind at that point, so I guess I had seen enough.  WVU is looking like an NIT team and I'm okay with that as long as they make a good run in it.

It looks like everybody who has Dish network will be getting the LHN soon so if this ever happens again you could just go to a bar or a friend's house or something.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 05, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
ESPN seems to really go after the streams of LHN (and probably all their other streams too, although I've never tried to watch an "illegal" stream of one of those). 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 05, 2014, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 04, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Michigan is really peaking at the right time.  In tonight's game they scored a higher percentage of 3-pointers (16 out of 23, or 70%) than Illinois did free throws (11 out of 16, or 69%)! 

Illinois scored the same number of points (53) tonight as they did Saturday at Michigan State.  With that score they beat State by 7 and lost to Michigan by 31.

And with that, Michigan wins its first outright Big Ten title since the 85-86 season. Man, that was a long drought!

Agreed.

I am very impressed with how Stauskas has improved his game on both ends of the court.  You have to like a guy that can penetrate, pull up and hit the midrange jumper.  We dont see that in many players these days.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 05, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 05, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
ESPN seems to really go after the streams of LHN (and probably all their other streams too, although I've never tried to watch an "illegal" stream of one of those). 

Remember when Chris Plonsky was freaking out about the streams during the 2011 season when the LHN just started?  That was hilarious.  It made me feel even more smug about my illegal streaming. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 05, 2014, 12:31:07 PM
Arizona is looking really, really good right now. They certainly had a bit of a stumble after Ashley was lost, but since then have recovered their offensive mojo to go along with just a ridiculously amazing defense.

Interesting bit of controversy going around about the supposed animosity between Arizona/Sean Miller and the Pac-12 staff/Larry Scott. Scott didn't show up to the Arizona Stanford game to present the Pac-12 title trophy to Arizona when they clinched, nor did anyone from the conference attend the game.

Apparently there is still quite a bit of bad blood between Miller and Scott as part of the fallout from RushGate last year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 05, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 05, 2014, 12:31:07 PM
just a ridiculously amazing defense.


I like watching them for this very reason.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 08, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Woo Hoo!! Suck it Berkut and the Wildcats!! Go Ducks!!

[spoiler]I had no idea this game was even happening until I saw the final score on the Yahoo page. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 08, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 08, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Woo Hoo!! Suck it Berkut and the Wildcats!! Go Ducks!!

[spoiler]I had no idea this game was even happening until I saw the final score on the Yahoo page. [/spoiler]

It is a crushing defeat. Arizona is going to fall from the overall #1 seed to the overall #1 seed, and will likely still be stuck with the #1 seed in the West as a result of this loss...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 08, 2014, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 08, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 08, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Woo Hoo!! Suck it Berkut and the Wildcats!! Go Ducks!!

[spoiler]I had no idea this game was even happening until I saw the final score on the Yahoo page. [/spoiler]

It is a crushing defeat. Arizona is going to fall from the overall #1 seed to the overall #1 seed, and will likely still be stuck with the #1 seed in the West as a result of this loss...

:P  That win should put Oregon in the tournament almost locks up a first round loss.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 08, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
The Pac-12 is going to have a lot of teams in the tournament...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 09, 2014, 06:42:19 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 08, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
The PacBig-12 is going to have a lot of teams in the tournament... 

FYP.  The Big 12 has kinda surprised me this year.  Lots of teams that are usually pretty mediocre really took fire this year, and the conference had enormous depth.  I am curious to see if they can keep it up.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 11:21:11 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 08, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 08, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Woo Hoo!! Suck it Berkut and the Wildcats!! Go Ducks!!

[spoiler]I had no idea this game was even happening until I saw the final score on the Yahoo page. [/spoiler]

It is a crushing defeat. Arizona is going to fall from the overall #1 seed to the overall #1 seed, and will likely still be stuck with the #1 seed in the West as a result of this loss...

You may be right but the Arizona offence looked like it was back to its bad early days of having no flow and essentially just waiting for the big kid to go 1 on 5.  Still liked the intensity but that was a poorly played game that made the Ducks look good.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
So my Blue Hens are playing tonight for a spot in the Big Dance-- would be their first trip in 15 years.

WVU looks solidly NIT-bound after beating Kansas at home (Wiggins was about as entertaining to watch in that game as was the WVU win itself).  If they can somehow pull off an upset against Texas I'd say they would deserve at least mention for an NCAA tourney spot.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
So my Blue Hens are playing tonight for a spot in the Big Dance

You should teach us their fight song like the guy in the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
So my Blue Hens are playing tonight for a spot in the Big Dance

You should teach us their fight song like the guy in the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial.

:lol: 

Okay, here it is:

(https://www.udel.edu/images1/youdee2.jpg)
https://www.udel.edu/includes1/audio/UDFightSong.mp3

I don't remember any of the words, but the song has obvious parts where "De-la-WARE" would be sung.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 10, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Wright State is in the Horizon League finals.  :)
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 10, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Seems like barring a miracle Huskies will miss out on Tourney for third straight year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 10, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Arizona sweeps the Pac-12 conference honors:

Sean Miller: Coach of the Year
Nick Johnson: Player of the Year
Aaron Gordon: Freshman of the Year.

Second time ever in conference history. Last time was in 1988-89, when it was Olson, Jason Terry, and Michael Wright.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Canadians dominate the Big 12 winning player of the year and Freshman of the year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 10, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Canadians dominate the Big 12 winning player of the year and Freshman of the year.

But not coach of the year! :punk:

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 10, 2014, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Canadians dominate the Big 12 winning player of the year and Freshman of the year.
They'll probably get (and should get) the Big Ten POY as well...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
If Stauskas wins it I would be very happy.  He has put in a lot of work to improve his game.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 10, 2014, 04:53:19 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
If Stauskas wins it I would be very happy.  He has put in a lot of work to improve his game.

He also seems to be enjoying himself much more this year.  He's got the perfect amount of swag - not cocky, but not afraid to indicate to opposing fans at the end of games how much he enjoyed their attempts to get his goat.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
I agree. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 10, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Canadians dominate the Big 12 winning player of the year and Freshman of the year.

But not coach of the year! :punk:

Also not top scorer :contract:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 10, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
If Stauskas wins it I would be very happy.  He has put in a lot of work to improve his game.

And he does.  Unanimous selection.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 10, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
If Stauskas wins it I would be very happy.  He has put in a lot of work to improve his game.

And he does.  Unanimous selection.

:yeah:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 10, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 10, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 10, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Canadians dominate the Big 12 winning player of the year and Freshman of the year.

But not coach of the year! :punk:

Also not top scorer :contract:

By the way it shall be 'Neers vs. Steers in the second round of the Big 12 Tournament.  May the third time not be the charm.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 11, 2014, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 10, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
By the way it shall be 'Neers vs. Steers in the second round of the Big 12 Tournament.  May the third time not be the charm.

:lol:  It won't.  WVU likes to do a first half surge and then fall apart in the last 5 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 11, 2014, 08:44:02 AM
Also my alma mater Delaware will be Dancing!!  Joe Lunardi has them playing SDSU, which has a rich history of choking in the first round.  It'll most likely be against some other team, but I'd take SDSU :)
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 11, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 11, 2014, 08:44:02 AM
Also my alma mater Delaware will be Dancing!!  Joe Lunardi has them playing SDSU, which has a rich history of choking in the first round.  It'll most likely be against some other team, but I'd take SDSU :)

The University of Wyoming 1943 NCAA team has more wins in the Tournament than SDSU has all time.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 11, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
The University of Wyoming 1943 NCAA team has more wins in the Tournament than SDSU has all time.
Actually, no.  They tied with three wins that year versus three SDSU wins total.  The NCAA tournament was a lot smaller in 1943 (8 teams).
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2014, 10:05:13 AM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
The University of Wyoming 1943 NCAA team has more wins in the Tournament than SDSU has all time.

Bah they never would have won in 1943 if Texas had been there.

Wait...Texas was there?  Damn.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 11, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
Texas sucks. Bill in Sinton has abandoned you.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 11, 2014, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
The University of Wyoming 1943 NCAA team has more wins in the Tournament than SDSU has all time.
Actually, no.  They tied with three wins that year versus three SDSU wins total.  The NCAA tournament was a lot smaller in 1943 (8 teams).

Ok, I will add in the Red Cross game against St Johns (winners of the NIT) then too.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 11, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 10:23:27 AM
Ok, I will add in the Red Cross game against St Johns (winners of the NIT) then too.

Wow!  Your guys were busy while our guys were out of the country defeating the Axis powers!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 11, 2014, 01:18:06 PM
GM Steve Nash Is Building a Canadian Basketball Powerhouse

Interview from Grantland



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I68PYQ7cAp8
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 11, 2014, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 10:23:27 AM
Ok, I will add in the Red Cross game against St Johns (winners of the NIT) then too.

Wow!  Your guys were busy while our guys were out of the country defeating the Axis powers!

We sure were.  Granted, the entire team joined after the season (Kenny Sailors went to the Marines), but yeah, teams like Illinois left for the service before any tournaments after they won their regular season.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 11, 2014, 04:10:13 PM
Besides, apart from the mythical Helms Foundation basketball national championship team of 1934 there is nothing else for Wyoming to hang their hats on.

Don't take that away from us.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2014, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 11, 2014, 10:23:27 AM
Ok, I will add in the Red Cross game against St Johns (winners of the NIT) then too.

Wow!  Your guys were busy while our guys were out of the country defeating the Axis powers!

It is pretty impressive Michigan remained in the top 10 in football the entire war with none of your guys available.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 12, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 11, 2014, 04:17:55 PM
It is pretty impressive Michigan remained in the top 10 in football the entire war with none of your guys available.

Everyone knew that Bob Chappuis and Bob Wiese would be back to kick Ohio State's ass after they got done kicking Hitler's ass.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 13, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
Shit's about to get real, Valmy :menace:

Assuming they don't push the game back another 15 minutes, anyway.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 13, 2014, 08:55:18 PM
So the game started but it doesn't look like WVU knew about it.  Down 12-0 in the first five minutes :bleeding:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 13, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2014, 08:55:18 PM
So the game started but it doesn't look like WVU knew about it.  Down 12-0 in the first five minutes :bleeding:

It is almost surreal how bad WVU had been in this game.  Didn't they realize their NCAA tournament berth was on the line?

Such a bummer Kansas managed to survive against Oklahoma State.  For a second there I thought Texas had a chance in this tournament.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 16, 2014, 11:44:20 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 09, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
No idea what to expect from UDub, they lost three seniors from a mediocre 18-16 team, have a couple of transfers and highly touted frosh guard, but who knows what will happen.

17-15 and season is done. Ah well.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 16, 2014, 11:44:50 PM
Created Yahoo tourney pool if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 17, 2014, 06:24:20 AM
Interesting bracketology.  According to Kenpom, the combined rankings of the top four teams by region are
Midwest  28 (2, 5, 7, 14).
West      41 (1, 8, 11, 21)
South     43 (3, 9, 15, 16)
East       43 (4, 6, 10, 23)

Valmy, does the Texas draw look as bad to you as it does to me?

And does anyone else think this "first four" shit needs to go?  It is such a blatant money grab.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: dps on March 17, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
Heck, I didn't even care all that much for the play-in game when it was a field of 65.  64 teams is plenty.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 17, 2014, 06:31:05 AM
Quote from: katmai on March 16, 2014, 11:44:50 PM
Created Yahoo tourney pool if anyone is interested.
I am! What's the pool and password?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 17, 2014, 08:09:05 AM
Tim's probably filled out 40 brackets already.  And will brag if one of them does well.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 17, 2014, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 17, 2014, 06:24:20 AM
Valmy, does the Texas draw look as bad to you as it does to me?

Well as far as #2 seeds go Michigan is not a horrible matchup for Texas, supposedly one of their big guys is injured.  I am just going by what people have been saying though.  Arizona State is a rough first round matchup, I would be pleasantly surprised if Texas even plays Michigan.

Yeah people are pretty annoyed by the seed, Baylor got the seed we thought Texas was getting.  Basically it seems after Texas lost to them in the Big 12 tournament Baylor and Texas got flipped.  People think our resume was better...I don't know.  I mean you can't cheat your way to a final four, you are going to have to beat the best teams eventually so might as well be put in a really tough spot in the toughest regional. 

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 17, 2014, 10:02:44 AM
Apparently Yahoo Sports knows something I don't:

QuoteThere was a problem
"Arizona" is not a valid pick in round 4. (Error #604)
"Arizona" is not a valid pick in round 5. (Error #604)
"Arizona" is not a valid pick in round 6. (Error #604)

Sorry, Berkut :(
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 17, 2014, 10:20:05 AM
I'm calling my bookie.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 17, 2014, 12:19:47 PM
Plan on doing brackets in 3 or 4 pools, but I'm tempted to synchronize them all this time.  I print mine out to keep track of them & it would be nice to just have one I'd need to glance at.

Decided against flying out to Spokane to watch my Blue Hens trounce Sparty (ha) so I'm doing my tradition of blowing off all work and family responsibilities Thursday and Friday to watch the games at Buffalo Wild Wings and my brother's house.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2014, 05:37:52 AM
I don't think I can join this year, Yahoo is requiring me to put in a verification phone number and is requiring an American number. <_<
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 18, 2014, 07:35:28 AM
Yay yahoo!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 18, 2014, 08:39:19 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: citizen k on March 18, 2014, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 17, 2014, 12:19:47 PM
Decided against flying out to Spokane to watch my Blue Hens ...

:(
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 18, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
So why are they playing the WVU-Georgetown game at that shitty little gym??  Should have held the game in Morgantown.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 18, 2014, 07:43:21 PM
Anyone enter Warren Buffet's Billion Dollar Challenge to fill out a perfect bracket?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 18, 2014, 07:44:25 PM
I forgot.

I was too busy buying megamillions lottery tickets.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 18, 2014, 08:07:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 16, 2014, 11:44:50 PM
Created Yahoo tourney pool if anyone is interested.

I refuse to give Yahoo! my telephone number, and that seems to be the only way to register.  So solly.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 18, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
Boo yahoo!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 08:46:41 AM
So only 5 of us are in this year?  You're gonna make this too easy for me to add yet another trophy to my case. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 08:48:09 AM
Just as an experiment, I filled out my Bengals bracket using the picks from fivethirtyeight.com

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 08:46:41 AM
So only 5 of us are in this year?  You're gonna make this too easy for me to add yet another trophy to my case. 

The games do not start until 11, could I have a link?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 20, 2014, 09:15:57 AM
Not very happy with my draw in the blind draw pool at work.

SD State
U Mass
Tulsa
Milwaukee

At least the top seeds are more spread out this year, last year one guy had 2 #1 seeds adn they were the 1 and 2 overall seeds.  He got an even worse draw than me, his best team is an 8 seed.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 08:46:41 AM
So only 5 of us are in this year?  You're gonna make this too easy for me to add yet another trophy to my case. 

The games do not start until 11, could I have a link?

https://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/quickenloansbracket/group/152291

Pool ID#: 152291
Password: gatorbait
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 20, 2014, 09:15:57 AM
Not very happy with my draw in the blind draw pool at work.

SD State
U Mass
Tulsa
Milwaukee

At least the top seeds are more spread out this year, last year one guy had 2 #1 seeds adn they were the 1 and 2 overall seeds.  He got an even worse draw than me, his best team is an 8 seed.

The SDSU one should hurt more than the rest.  They can always be counted on to do the least with a favorable seed.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 20, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 20, 2014, 09:15:57 AM
Not very happy with my draw in the blind draw pool at work.

SD State
U Mass
Tulsa
Milwaukee

At least the top seeds are more spread out this year, last year one guy had 2 #1 seeds adn they were the 1 and 2 overall seeds.  He got an even worse draw than me, his best team is an 8 seed.

The SDSU one should hurt more than the rest.  They can always be counted on to do the least with a favorable seed.

The "good" thing is that the draw was 100% random, someone could potentially end up with 4 #16 (or #1) seeds.  At least I wasn't guaranteed one Top 4 seed and ended up with the worst one, at least I got a #4 and a #6.  The guy i mentioned before has Arizona State, Colorado, New Mexico State and Harvard. :D
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
I just made the most homerific bracket ever.  Can't do worse than I normally do  :P
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 20, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
I am absolutely sick of the local tv stations talking about THE BATTLE OF OHIO.

Fuck UD. Cowards won't even play Wright State.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 20, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
I am absolutely sick of the local tv stations talking about THE BATTLE OF OHIO.

Fuck UD. Cowards won't even play Wright State.

:lol: It's a full-on media blitz. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 01:29:14 PM
Wow I lost the billion dollars on the first game.  I am awesome.  :cool:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
Now is when Ed reminds us he's not an Ohio State basketball fan.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Almost feel sorry for Sparty fans. MSU stands zero chance against the Blue Hens.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 03:37:58 PM
It always warms my heart to see representatives of the elite establishment taking down the rabble at their own game.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 20, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
Now is when Ed reminds us he's not an Ohio State basketball fan.

I'm not. Never have been.

And UD are still pussies for refusing to play Wright State.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 20, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
I just noticed SDSU and NMSU play each other in the first round.  At least that means I will have at least one team in the second round.

Unfortunately it will probably be NMSU.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Scipio on March 20, 2014, 05:03:45 PM
Well, I'm atop the leaderboard. Hells yeah, bitches.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Almost feel sorry for Sparty fans. MSU stands zero chance against the Blue Hens.

I think they should just end this beat down now and give up at the half.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 20, 2014, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Scipio on March 20, 2014, 05:03:45 PM
Well, I'm atop the leaderboard. Hells yeah, bitches.

Your Michigan homerism has paid off....so far.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 20, 2014, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 20, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
I just noticed SDSU and NMSU play each other in the first round.  At least that means I will have at least one team in the second round.

Your pal's got at least one- Harvard.  :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 10:48:00 PM
Goddamn Texas, give me a heart attack, whydontcha.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
Seriously.  Way to make it way too close.  Hook'em, regardless #billinsintonlives4evah
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 08:12:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 20, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
Seriously.  Way to make it way too close.  Hook'em, regardless #billinsintonlives4evah

That game so perfectly summed up everything right and wrong with the Barnes era.  A game Texas should have won easily derailed by Barnes' inept offensive strategy but won anyway due to his team's trademark mental toughness, rebounding, and defense.

I got home from lab last night at 10:30 and David was still up so we watched the last two minutes of the game together.  It was amazing I don't think I will be forgetting that for awhile. :wub: :punk:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
DOOOKIES BABEEEEE!!

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
DOOOKIES BABEEEEE!!

I think a bunch of people just got their brackets wrecked.

OTOH, this makes the Midwest a much friendlier region for the remaining teams.  For Michigan, this is great stuff; Duke was probably the toughest matchup for them in the region.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 01:47:43 PM
OTOH, this makes the Midwest a much friendlier region for the remaining teams.  For Michigan, this is great stuff; Duke was probably the toughest matchup for them in the region.

Pity the mighty Texas frontcourt will make them unable to take advantage :console:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 01:47:43 PM
OTOH, this makes the Midwest a much friendlier region for the remaining teams.  For Michigan, this is great stuff; Duke was probably the toughest matchup for them in the region.

Pity the mighty Texas frontcourt will make them unable to take advantage :console:
Here's Brian Cook's preview on MGoBlog:  http://mgoblog.com/content/tourney-preview-texas#comments (http://mgoblog.com/content/tourney-preview-texas#comments)  Unless Taylor gets hot for you guys, I like Michigan's chances in this matchup very much.  Texas has a marginally better defense than Michigan and Michigan has a vastly superior offense.

Refereeing will make a difference, as well.  Texas is used to getting to the line (44% FTA/FGA) while Michigan is used to seldom sending opponents to the line (27% opponent FTA/FGA).  If the refs call a very tight game, that will help Texas a bunch, even if they are significantly worse at making free throws.

So, it is a matchup of opposites, in many ways.  Should be a good game.  These two schools don't play each other as often as they should, in all sports.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
Texas has a marginally better defense than Michigan and Michigan has a vastly superior offense.

Yeah this team does not really do offense.  It is all about rebounding and defense.  Texas has few good offensive players and those it does have Barnes misuses, but then Barnes could misuse Kevin Durant.

By the way that is an awesome preview article.  I wish that dude wrote on all Texas games.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Grey Fox on March 21, 2014, 03:02:45 PM
Lets go NM!

:(
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
 :hmm:  As someone on the Duke loss thread pointed out, Mercer just laid out a road map for Texas on how to beat Michigan.  Texas isn't unlike Mercer, and Michigan is very much like Duke.  maybe I shouldn't be as happy about the Duke outcome as I am.  But, really... FUCK DUKE.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 21, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
I for one was very dissapointed in that outcome and feel badly for Coach K, who deserves better players who will play harder and with better sportsmanship, integrity, and skill so he can garner the accolades, attention, adulation, and financial rewards he so clearly deserves as one of the greatest human to ever live, much less coach basketball.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 21, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
I for one was very dissapointed in that outcome and feel badly for Coach K, who deserves better players who will play harder and with better sportsmanship, integrity, and skill so he can garner the accolades, attention, adulation, and financial rewards he so clearly deserves as one of the greatest human to ever live, much less coach basketball.

My sarcasm meter just exploded.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: alfred russel on March 21, 2014, 06:41:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
DOOOKIES BABEEEEE!!

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of brackets suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: alfred russel on March 21, 2014, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 21, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
I for one was very dissapointed in that outcome and feel badly for Coach K, who deserves better players who will play harder and with better sportsmanship, integrity, and skill so he can garner the accolades, attention, adulation, and financial rewards he so clearly deserves as one of the greatest human to ever live, much less coach basketball.

I wasn't disappointed at all. Your average Duke grad is smarter than I am. He is probably making more money than I am. People will give him more respect than me based on where we went to school. I couldn't get into Duke. His basketball team is consistently better than mine, his even his football team is better at the moment.

But at least for today, something didn't go his way, and that makes me happy.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 21, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
It took 25 games to eliminate every bracket in the million dollar challenge.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/there-are-no-longer-any-perfect-brackets-left-in-the-billion-dollar-bracket-challenge-003853949.html
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 21, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/cbs-announcer-apologizes-for-insensitive-remark-toward-polish-born-gonzaga-player-000018520.html

QuoteCBS/Turner announcer apologizes for insensitive remark toward Polish-born Gonzaga player

CBS/Turner announcer Andrew Catalon made a bad choice of words on Friday night.

With time dwindling in Gonzaga's 85-77 win over Oklahoma State, Catalon described the Cowboys' foul strategy as "Hack-a-Polack." The reference was made because Oklahoma State had just fouled Gonzaga's Przemek Karnowski, who was born in Poland. 

Catalon was apparently unaware that Polack is seen as a derogatory term.

"Pole" is the preferred nomenclature.

Broadcast partner Mike Gminski, however, quickly said "Hey now!" and cut Catalon off during the broadcast on TNT.  Gminski knows better and he should, seeing as how he's a member of the National Polish-American Sports Hall of Fame.

Whoops.

Catalon seemed awkward about the mistake and later made an apology during the game's garbage time,.

However, it was of the "I'm sorry if people were offended" variety.

Here's guessing Catalon is going to be a lot more careful with his descriptions in the future.

UPDATE: Catalon later tweeted out an apology and said he had directly apologized to Karnowski, who accepted his apology.

I sincerely apologize for my poor choice of words and insensitive remark during the Gonzaga-Oklahoma St game.
— Andrew Catalon (@AndrewCatalon) March 21, 2014
I am truly sorry and I have personally spoken and apologized to Przemek Karnowski, who was very gracious in accepting my apology.
— Andrew Catalon (@AndrewCatalon) March 22, 2014
Mr. @AndrewCatalon has just apologized in my person and I really appreciate it! But the most important thing right now is we have this W!
— Przemek Karnowski (@PKarnowski) March 21, 2014


:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 21, 2014, 09:58:38 PM
Polacks.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 21, 2014, 10:48:25 PM
Didn't we have one that used to post here?  :hmm:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2014, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2014, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 21, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
Texas has a marginally better defense than Michigan and Michigan has a vastly superior offense.

Yeah this team does not really do offense.  It is all about rebounding and defense.  Texas has few good offensive players and those it does have Barnes misuses, but then Barnes could misuse Kevin Durant.

By the way that is an awesome preview article.  I wish that dude wrote on all Texas games.
How?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: fhdz on March 21, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 21, 2014, 10:48:25 PM
Didn't we have one that used to post here?  :hmm:

Can't recall.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Savonarola on March 22, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
Back in Michigan it's a source of great merriment for MSU or U of M fans when the other school gets invited to the NIT.  I was expecting the Florida grads to be delighted that FSU is a number one seed at the NIT; but it seems they don't care.  As good as Florida is in basketball this year, only college football matters down here.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 22, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
 :(  Florida doesn't understand what is important in March.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 22, 2014, 03:10:12 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 22, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
:(  Florida doesn't understand what is important in March.

Air conditioning.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 22, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
Welp.

Hook em and all that, but still...

Welp
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 22, 2014, 07:02:16 PM
Texas free throw shooting kept them in that game.  That sure didn't look like a 67% free-throw-shooting team!

Neither team looked great from the field, though Michigan hit enough threes to stay in front.  I don't think Texas ever came up with an answer to the double-team on Ridley.

It's funny to hear the CBS talking heads excuse Texas for being so young.  Except that Morgan is a senior and Holmes a junior, Michigan matches Texas youth for youth.  What Texas needs is a shooter.  Taylor gets points, but is not at all efficient (less than 1 PPP).

Okay.  Texas needs a coach, too.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 22, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
GODDAMN IT SYRACUSE. BEAT UD YOU FUCKS.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 22, 2014, 08:18:22 PM
After their meltdown at the end of the season how is this a surprise?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 22, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
Dayton>Wright St.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 22, 2014, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 22, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
Dayton>Wright St.


http://youtu.be/6s6dF3MSU0o
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 22, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 22, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

:bleeding:<-----Ed Anger for next week til Thursday/Friday
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 22, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2014, 11:41:18 PM
How?

Oh my God.  I could go on and on.  But I will let Bill Simmons do it for me:

QuoteIt's no secret that Texas has become my favorite college hoops team; my man-crush on Durant has reached the point that I should probably remain at least 100 yards away from him at all times. So I finally fall for a college hoops team, and just my luck ... they have a crappy coach! It's like my destiny in life to root for poorly coached basketball teams. The way Rick Barnes butchers this team on a game-to-game basis is unconscionable. Seriously, did you SEE Wednesday night's game? What was your favorite bad coaching moment? Acie Law being repeatedly allowed to shoot game-tying threes from his favorite spots on the floor? Durant going 4-5 straight possessions in OT without touching the ball? D.J. Augustin being allowed to recklessly drive to the hoop again and again when he's playing with the most unstoppable college scorer in 40 years?



I asked this question a few weeks ago, and I'm asking it again now: How can you not run more plays for Kevin Durant? Post him up and he has 27 different ways to score. Curl him off picks and he makes 15-footers like they're layups. Spread the floor out, let him handle the ball at the top of the key and he can pull up and swish 25-footers over anyone. THE GUY IS A SURE THING!!!!!!!! Why are they giving him a degree of difficulty? Do they have plays in their playbook called "Durant stands frozen 25 feet from the basket while other guys dribble aimlessly" and "half-assed pick-and-roll that leads to nothing" and "Durant posts up while the point guards stare him down, then reverse the ball the other way?"



I can't handle it. Watching Texas screw up the Durant Era is like watching a guy spend three straight hours buying drinks and working it with a girl who already announced, "Sure, I'll sleep with you." In other words, WHY ARE YOU MAKING THIS HARD????? Seriously, I feel like Barnes should resign. He's overmatched. He's Dubya-esque. It's a disgrace. They're going to get bounced from the NCAA Tournament this month solely because Barnes has no idea how to get Durant the ball ... and even worse, doesn't seem to feel any pressing need to get Durant the ball. And since Durant is a good teammate, and he's not one of those guys who would scream at a teammate, "Look, get out of my way and give me the f---ing ball," we get to watch him stand around in close games while opposing coaches think to themselves, "Phew, I'm glad Rick Barnes is over there."

There is a reason Texas had one of the best players in College Basketball history and exited in the round of 32.  But really you could just insert any decent shooter Texas has ever had for Durant there.  Barnes coaches defense, rebounding, team, and mental toughness but he will bungle offense big time.  He is clueless.  It is amazing the offensive talents he has squandered over the years.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 22, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
Gonzaga and then San Diego State.

Hmmm. Those are both rather dangerous teams...
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: alfred russel on March 23, 2014, 12:49:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 22, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
Gonzaga and then San Diego State.

Hmmm. Those are both rather dangerous teams...

I am sure that everyone here is on pins and needles about my bracket....My bracket is basically busted. However, I have Arizona winning the championship, and since only one other person in my pool of 65 does that could redeem me.

Berkut, don't let me down on this.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 23, 2014, 01:06:09 PM
C'mon fighting Garbos ! Beat those Jayhawks.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 23, 2014, 10:34:39 PM
I may have over-estimated the danger Gonzaga represented.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 23, 2014, 11:21:40 PM
This was a down year for the Bulldogs I think.

Happy to see 3 Pac-12 teams still alive in final 16.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 23, 2014, 11:38:29 PM
So Dayton beat Ohio St. by 1 and Syracuse by 2. Are they: Team of Destiny?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Grey Fox on March 24, 2014, 07:17:44 AM
The Arizona is the right Arizona to cheer for right, Berkut?

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 24, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 23, 2014, 11:38:29 PM
So Dayton beat Ohio St. by 1 and Syracuse by 2. Are they: Team of Destiny?

They're the team of my friend whose name is Dusty, so sorta/almost.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 24, 2014, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 21, 2014, 09:58:38 PM
Polacks.  :rolleyes:

Seriously.  Get over yourselves and embrace the term.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 24, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 24, 2014, 07:17:44 AM
The Arizona is the right Arizona to cheer for right, Berkut?



Indeed. The wrong Arizona to cheer for got ousted by Texas.

I am always torn on ASU in the tournament. I want the Pac-12 to do well, of course, but ASU? I cannot bring myself to be sad when they get punted.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Grey Fox on March 24, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 24, 2014, 07:17:44 AM
The Arizona is the right Arizona to cheer for right, Berkut?



Indeed. The wrong Arizona to cheer for got ousted by Texas.

I am always torn on ASU in the tournament. I want the Pac-12 to do well, of course, but ASU? I cannot bring myself to be sad when they get punted.

Ok.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 24, 2014, 01:11:31 PM
The Big 12 had a pretty rough first two rounds.

Only two left.  Bummer.  So much for making waves as a top basketball conference.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 24, 2014, 06:38:01 PM
I am rooting for the Stanford Fightin' Grabasses
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 27, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

  :mad:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 27, 2014, 09:06:19 PM
Needs more DAYTON FLYERS!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on March 27, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
On one hand SDSU was my last man standing in my blind draw pool and was worth $12 to me; on the other hand Pac-12 4ever.  But also Berkut annoys me.

I had a rough night.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 27, 2014, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 27, 2014, 09:06:19 PM
Needs more DAYTON FLYERS!

TEAM OF DESTINY
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 28, 2014, 08:41:19 AM
Nick Johnson.

0 for 10, zero points for the first 35.5 minutes.

14 straight points, and 9 straight free throws to end the game.

How about against Wisconsin they try to have a boring game, and just crush them?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 08:45:58 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 27, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

  :mad:

:nelson:  Get Flyer'ed up!!!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
Oh, fuck y'all. The fanboy shit here in the miami valley is getting....annoying.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 08:48:18 AM
It is reaching Tim levels of bandwagon faggotry.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 28, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
I'm still rooting for Wyoming  :)
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 09:46:02 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 27, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
On one hand SDSU was my last man standing in my blind draw pool and was worth $12 to me; on the other hand Pac-12 4ever.  But also Berkut annoys me.

I had a rough night.

SDSU confounded me by actually winning a couple games.  I was very happy to see their reign of terror end last night.  Plus I had Arizona winning it all in my Languish pool, not that I have a shot in hell at winning it this year :(

In my Bengals pool I went from 32nd to tied for 8th.  If Louisville wins out I should end up in first place.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 08:48:18 AM
It is reaching Tim levels of bandwagon faggotry.

:D  People are happy for them here, but we're far enough away that there's no bandwagoning.  Plus there's still plenty of loudmouth Ewwwe-Kayyyy fans from just across the river.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on March 28, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
The Languish pool is dead to me.  I don't even want to know.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
Quote from: PDH on March 28, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
The Languish pool is dead to me.  I don't even want to know.

You're not doing as bad as I am.  And nobody's doing as bad as Valmy, though with his rampant homerism I don't think he was taking it very seriously.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on March 28, 2014, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
You're not doing as bad as I am.  And nobody's doing as bad as Valmy, though with his rampant homerism I don't think he was taking it very seriously.

Hehe no.  To be fair I usually am horrible at those things anyway.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
There was some mild violence in the UD Ghetto, with rowdy students and some increasingly pissed off Dayton cops. I have a feeling Dayton Police are gonna crack some heads if UD beat Florida(HA!).

Especially since UD students act entitled in their nasty ass Ghetto.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
I never knew what The Ghetto was until last night.  Huge-ass crowd there.  I heard talk of burning couches but no photographic evidence.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
I never knew what The Ghetto was until last night.  Huge-ass crowd there.  I heard talk of burning couches but no photographic evidence.

In the old days, a 12 pack would get you blowjobs from the freshman chicks there.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 28, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
In the old days, a 12 pack would get you blowjobs from the freshman chicks there.

Sounds like Delaware, the other UD :hmm:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 29, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
damn Arizona.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 29, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
ALL HAIL FLORIDA
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Berkut on March 29, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 29, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
damn Arizona.

The best defensive team in the country could not stop 1 guy.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 30, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 29, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 29, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
damn Arizona.

The best defensive team in the country could not stop 1 guy.

Hard to match up against a 7 footer that can shoot the three, take the ball to the rim and post up.  I thought Wisconsin did a poor job exploiting the Arizona defensive weakness when Arizona switched on the screens.  Even so they did it well enough to win. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 30, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Excellent Sparty Husky matchup going on.  Close, well played, intense.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 30, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Good game. 

Won $20 off my mom.  :showoff:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 30, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Adios Michigan
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 30, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
Wow, even though they're not traditional 7 or 8 seeds, I don't think many people saw this coming!
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 30, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Is Staukus OTB or homegrown?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: katmai on March 30, 2014, 06:46:02 PM
Homegrown to those Vile Canadians yes.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 31, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 30, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Is Staukus OTB or homegrown?
WTF PDQ, mostly.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 31, 2014, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: katmai on March 30, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Adios Michigan

Michigan losing was sad.  Losing to Kentucky was salt in the wound.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 31, 2014, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 31, 2014, 11:32:30 AM
Michigan losing was sad.  Losing to Kentucky was salt in the wound.

Michigan had the right game plan and executed it well.  Kentucky, the roughly-#250 three-point-shooting team beyond the arc, just had a magic day and hit 7 out of 11 threes (almost every one contested). That was a great game; it was like watching two old-style bare-knuckle fighters just whale on each other, each refusing to go down.

Thanks largely to Stauskas, this Michigan team was the most efficient offensive team of the KenPom era.  Gonna miss that guy.  Also going to miss senior Jordan Morgan, who finished the year with the highest-percentage hit rate for FG for a season (70% this year) and career (69%).  Not bad for a guy who will not see the pros (though, having two Michigan chemical engineering degrees, he probably didn't want to take the pay cut anyway).
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on March 31, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 30, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
Wow, even though they're not traditional 7 or 8 seeds, I don't think many people saw this coming!

Save for nearly an entire state of obnoxious, entitled fans.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on March 31, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 31, 2014, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 31, 2014, 11:32:30 AM
Michigan losing was sad.  Losing to Kentucky was salt in the wound.

Michigan had the right game plan and executed it well.  Kentucky, the roughly-#250 three-point-shooting team beyond the arc, just had a magic day and hit 7 out of 11 threes (almost every one contested). That was a great game; it was like watching two old-style bare-knuckle fighters just whale on each other, each refusing to go down.

Thanks largely to Stauskas, this Michigan team was the most efficient offensive team of the KenPom era.  Gonna miss that guy.  Also going to miss senior Jordan Morgan, who finished the year with the highest-percentage hit rate for FG for a season (70% this year) and career (69%).  Not bad for a guy who will not see the pros (though, having two Michigan chemical engineering degrees, he probably didn't want to take the pay cut anyway).

I agree with everything.

The second and third fouls Morgan picked up at the end of the first half and then the beginning of the second really hurt.  If he had been able to play more of the second half I think that would have made the difference.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on March 31, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 31, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 30, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
Wow, even though they're not traditional 7 or 8 seeds, I don't think many people saw this coming!

Save for nearly an entire state of obnoxious, entitled fans.

YOO KAY!

Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on March 31, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Local Florida station doesn't have game film rights to the UF-Dayton game, but doesn't let that stop their coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBYYp3BrLo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBYYp3BrLo)
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 07, 2014, 08:44:47 PM
Soo UCONNs guards are fast as hell. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on April 07, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Hope that holds.  UK must be stopped. 
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 07, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
YEW KAY
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on April 07, 2014, 09:10:01 PM
Great game so far.  Hopefully UConn can up the tempo in the second half and blow Kentucky out of the gym.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
UConn doesn't do up tempo.  Though I guess that is not fair, Jim Calhoun isn't there anymore.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on April 07, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
UConn doesn't do up tempo. 


Thats how they got the big lead in the first half  :secret:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
UConn doesn't do up tempo. 


Thats how they got the big lead in the first half  :secret:


Oh well I just turned it on and saw it was 35-31 and thought to myself 'typical UConn game'  which is certainly better than a typical Kentucky game.  I was not aware their 35 points was due to a torrid pace.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on April 07, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 07, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Hope that holds.  UK must be stopped.

Here's hoping they don't give up the easy 30 foot left wing jumper to Harrison in the closing seconds.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 07, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
Here's hoping they don't give up the easy 30 foot left wing jumper to Harrison in the closing seconds.

You should have seen me at the end of the Wisconsin game

'ok just don't let Harrison get it...not Harrison please...come on....NOOOOOOOO GOD SDLI#$@(*W$P(TYADOFHQErh'
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on April 07, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 07, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
Here's hoping they don't give up the easy 30 foot left wing jumper to Harrison in the closing seconds.

You should have seen me at the end of the Wisconsin game

'ok just don't let Harrison get it...not Harrison please...come on....NOOOOOOOO GOD SDLI#$@(*W$P(TYADOFHQErh'

:lol:  The kid is unreal.  Those could be the only 3 shots he has hit all tournament for all I know, but he will go down with the legends of the tourney with his performance this year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 01:41:44 AM
Looks like Connecticut may pass some unionization laws on it's own.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/07/us/ncaa-basketball-finals-shabazz-napier-hungry/index.html
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Caliga on April 08, 2014, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
YEW KAY
:bleeding:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on April 08, 2014, 10:29:02 AM
Cal is always doomed to hate the local team.  Well ok except the Pats.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Caliga on April 08, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
It's funny how some people actually get angry down here when I answer "Neither" to the inevitable "CARDS OR CATS?" questions at this time of year. :)
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Caliga on April 08, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
...and I am trying very hard to like the Bungles since they are sort of a local team, and I like the NFL.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on April 08, 2014, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 08, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
It's funny how some people actually get angry down here when I answer "Neither" to the inevitable "CARDS OR CATS?" questions at this time of year. :)

Tell 'em you're an EKU man.  COLONELS FOREVAH
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 08, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
It's funny how some people actually get angry down here when I answer "Neither" to the inevitable "CARDS OR CATS?" questions at this time of year. :)

ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2014, 07:09:41 AM
BIG BLEW NASHUN :bleeding:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on April 09, 2014, 09:38:49 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2014, 07:09:41 AM
BIG BLEW NASHUN :bleeding:

I have yet to hear that one, thank God.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
I was looking forward to seeing the Women's final last night but the ESPN feed wasnt picked up by TSN - instead they showed some stupid hockey of some sort. :ultra:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: derspiess on April 09, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
I watched the Cardinals beat the Reds for the 4th time already this year.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
I was looking forward to seeing the Women's final last night but the ESPN feed wasnt picked up by TSN - instead they showed some stupid hockey of some sort. :ultra:

Women's basketball.   :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
I was looking forward to seeing the Women's final last night but the ESPN feed wasnt picked up by TSN - instead they showed some stupid hockey of some sort. :ultra:

Women's basketball.   :lol:

If you like the tactics of basketball it is better than the Men's game for the simple reason that when things break down in Men's basketball the players often rely on their althetic ablity.  Women on the other hand are more likely to play within the systems designed by their coaches.  If the Women's teams are well coached, as was the case last night, it is a great game to watch.  The problem is that a lot of women's programs are not well developed and so the opportunity to watch good Women's games is not as frequent.  Which is why I really wanted to see the game last night.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
Homo.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
Homo.

Says the guy who prefers watching men.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
I bet you like Danica Patrick too.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on April 09, 2014, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
I was looking forward to seeing the Women's final last night but the ESPN feed wasnt picked up by TSN - instead they showed some stupid hockey of some sort. :ultra:

UCONN was the decisive NAACP champion
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on April 09, 2014, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2014, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
I was looking forward to seeing the Women's final last night but the ESPN feed wasnt picked up by TSN - instead they showed some stupid hockey of some sort. :ultra:

UCONN was the decisive NAACP champion

:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 10, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
Facebook was blowing up with celebratory comments from all my friends and family hanging on in Stratford, Bridgeport, Ansonia, Waterbury, Meriden, New Britain... :w00t: :swiss:

Huskies basketball is about the only thing that brings Connecticut together and gives it a semblance of state pride, at least since Lowell Weicker's Watergate days. :weep:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on April 25, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcgary-heading-to-nba-after-positive-marijuana-test-nets-him-shocking-year-long-ncaa-ban-073833742.html

Two of my least favorite things, arbitrary hypocritical NCAA rules and draconian punishments for marijuana use, rolled into a delightful shit sandwich.

QuoteMitch McGary heading to NBA after marijuana test nets him yearlong NCAA ban

ANN ARBOR, Mich. – Mitch McGary took a deep breath. He wanted to tell the story of why he smoked marijuana one night in March, why the NCAA suspended him for a year because of it and why the confluence of those events is helping lead him to declare for June's NBA draft. It wasn't easy, so he started at the beginning.

For months, McGary had struggled to come to terms with the back injury that limited him to just eight games for the University of Michigan this season, none after mid-December. Less than a year earlier, he helped lead the Wolverines to the 2013 national title game as a star freshman. Now, he was a spectator.

One night in mid-March, with the NCAA tournament about to begin without him, McGary was hanging out with a group of friends at Michigan. He had a few drinks. Someone offered some marijuana – a common occurrence, he said, on campus.

"I always turned it down," McGary told Yahoo Sports. "But that night I didn't."

Less than two weeks later, McGary "dressed" for the Wolverines' Sweet 16 game against Tennessee. He was never going to play, but coach John Beilein thought the sight of him in maize and blue on the sideline, pumping up his teammates, would add some enthusiasm. Michigan eked out a 73-71 win.

Amid the post-victory celebration, an NCAA representative told McGary that he, of all people, had been selected to undergo a random drug test, even though he hadn't played in months.


A week later, after Michigan was knocked out of the tournament, McGary was contemplating whether to enter the NBA draft or return for his junior season. Coming back would allow him to prove his back was fine and continue enjoying life in Ann Arbor. His play could bolster his NBA draft stock. It was an attractive option.

That's when he was called into a meeting with Beilein and athletic director Dave Brandon. They told him he failed the drug test during the NCAA tournament.

Then they informed him of the NCAA's harsh penalty for a first failed test: a minimum one-year suspension from all competition.

If he wanted to play college ball again, it wouldn't be until the 2015-16 season.

"The penalty is a year," McGary said.

No longer was there a debate about his future. McGary will enter the NBA draft by Sunday's deadline, he told Yahoo Sports. He's confident in his future, but says he didn't really have a choice. The NCAA penalty cemented the decision for him.

"It's just with the NCAA and their strict rules, they don't show any mercy," McGary said. "They take their things seriously."

Testing for recreational drugs in college athletic programs is wildly variable, borne of a policy unlike almost any other from the NCAA. It allows schools to set their own standards and merely demands they follow them. The NCAA will test year round for performance enhancers, but "stimulants and street drugs are generally not tested," the NCAA's own "Drug Testing Handbook" states.

Some schools are more lenient. Some, such as Brigham Young, have zero tolerance. Michigan tends to fall on the stricter side, with widespread testing and serious consequences.

McGary said he passed eight drug tests administered by Michigan over his two years in Ann Arbor, including five this year despite his limited play.

"[That's why] this was a surprise," Beilein told Yahoo Sports on Thursday evening. "This is not Mitch McGary. Not the one I know."

Had McGary failed a Michigan test, he would've been subject to Michigan's punishment for a first-time offender: a week away from all team activities and a suspension from 10 percent of the regular season, or in this case three games. A second offense is suspension for half a season and a third calls for permanent ineligibility at the school.

During championship tournaments or bowl games, however, the NCAA takes over and now may test not just for PEDs, but all banned drugs classes, including recreational. The NCAA penalties are also harsher.

By failing a test administered by the NCAA, rather than his school, McGary was subject to the draconian Bylaw 18.4.1.5.1, which calls for a player to be "in­eligible for a minimum of one calendar year." A second offense, even for just marijuana, results in permanent banishment.
"If it had been a Michigan test, I would've been suspended three games and possibly thought about coming back," McGary said. "I don't have the greatest circumstances to leave right now [due to the injury]. I feel I'm ready, but this pushed it overboard.

"I don't think the penalty fits the crime. I think one year is overdoing it a little bit."

Michigan agreed, McGary said, and appealed the decision to the NCAA in early April. It was denied, however. Neither the university nor the NCAA would comment directly on the case or the appeal.

The NCAA's denial became even more confusing when on April 15, just days after the appellate ruling, its legislative council agreed a full-season ban was too strong for a first-time recreational drug failure. It changed NCAA policy and lowered the penalty to half a season.

"Street drugs are not performance-enhancing in nature, and this change will encourage schools to provide student-athletes the necessary rehabilitation," the NCAA said in a statement.

Yet the NCAA declined to apply the new standard to McGary because he violated the rule under the old terms, even if it was just weeks prior to the change. Spokesperson Michelle Brutlag Hosick said the new policy does not actually go into effect until Aug. 1, the standard date for the NCAA legislation.


This entire case feels like a stern and inflexible bureaucracy pushing a high profile, would-be All-American out of college competition for no particularly good reason. The NCAA couldn't reasonably expect a player of McGary's caliber to sit out a full season and thus delay a professional opportunity for two years.

McGary said he isn't bitter because no matter the circumstances, he believes he's ready to be a NBA player. Still, this isn't the kind of thing he wanted factoring into his decision.

The Chesterton, Ind., native could've just turned pro and not mentioned the failed drug test publicly or privately. It stands to reason other players have done just that.

Instead, McGary believed being honest would be best for himself, his family, the Michigan program and his pro future, where he won't have to worry about news leaking out and NBA teams believing he was hiding something.

"I'd rather come out and say I messed up," he said.

While he doesn't agree with the length of the NCAA's punishment, he wants to be clear he isn't blaming anyone but himself. He sat across a table here Thursday seeking a chance to give an explanation, not an excuse.

"I was just really stressed out," he said of the frustration of not being able to play. "I was at a bad point, just coming off back surgery. I just wasn't really thinking it through. I have definitely learned from it.

"I am just disappointed in myself overall because this is not me, this is not who I am overall."

He hopes he's remembered at Michigan as a player who gave everything to his team even when all he could do was root his teammates on from the sideline.

"To all the Michigan fans out there, 'I'm sorry,' " he said. "I did not want to end it this way. Basically, I just messed up. But we have certain rules and regulations that we need to abide by and I slipped up and didn't abide by them. Things happen and you have to move on from them."

Beilein said he still fully supports McGary.

"Mitch admitted it immediately," Beilein said of confronting him with the positive test. "We preach integrity each day in this program and this is reflective of that, someone coming out and saying I used very poor judgment and I regret it and I want to move forward. I think a lot of people will forgive people who make youthful mistakes."

McGary also hopes that by coming forward on his own he can turn a negative into some kind of positive to NBA general managers. He considered declaring for the draft after his freshman season, when many teams thought he could be a lottery pick. Now with the back surgery and this revelation, he isn't sure where he may go.

"This was a learning moment for me," he said. "I think I'm a great person with good character that does the right thing most of the time."

The case also shines light on the NCAA's uneven system for dealing with recreational drugs.

Even with the lightening of the suspension to a half season, it remains a heavy penalty and creates periods of the year, as with championship tournaments, when sanctions arbitrarily increase.

Beilein said the fear of the NCAA's one-year suspension is so significant it caused the program, which already tests relentlessly, to drug test the entire team prior to the Big Ten tournament.

"Just to make sure, we make a conscious choice to test everyone," Beilein said.

McGary, however, smoked between the Big Ten and NCAAs. During its tournament, the NCAA can test any player on a roster or in the team's traveling party – even players in street clothes not affecting the outcome of games.

McGary may have worn a uniform for the Tennessee game, but it didn't matter. The NCAA can demand a school test an injured player who remains back on campus.

With his NBA decision made, McGary planned on finishing a final academic paper by Friday before heading home to Indiana to begin preparing for the draft process. He said he appreciated all Michigan did for him in appealing the NCAA ruling, even if it didn't work.

"The NCAA really doesn't show any mercy," he said. "Even if I was a good kid with good character. They don't really care about that. They don't care about the program, the university. If you tested positive, there are consequences."

He wishes he didn't have to do this. He isn't looking forward to the story spreading. He isn't going to sink into a state of depression over it, though. He made a mistake. He says it's isolated.

"I don't want people to think I'm overlooking this, because I'm not," he said. "But I'm a positive person. I messed up. There's nothing I can do about it. It's in my past now. I'm just going to try to learn from it."
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 26, 2014, 03:31:26 AM
What happens when whole teams in Colorado and Washington test positive? :yeahright:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on April 26, 2014, 06:23:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 26, 2014, 03:31:26 AM
What happens when whole teams in Colorado and Washington test positive? :yeahright:
What happens when Timmay understands that the NCAA isn't enforcing laws, but rather NCAA rules? :yeahright:

Oh... silly me.  Timmay will never understand such a complex idea.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: dps on April 26, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
I bet you like Danica Patrick too.

She's not exactly my type (needs implants) but if I had to have sex with a NASCAR driver, she'd be at the top of my list pretty much by default.  Who'd be at the top of your list?  Jeff Gordon?
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: grumbler on April 26, 2014, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: dps on April 26, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
I bet you like Danica Patrick too.

She's not exactly my type (needs implants) but if I had to have sex with a NASCAR driver, she'd be at the top of my list pretty much by default.  Who'd be at the top of your list?  Jeff Gordon?
:pinch:
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on April 26, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: dps on April 26, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
I bet you like Danica Patrick too.

She's not exactly my type (needs implants) but if I had to have sex with a NASCAR driver, she'd be at the top of my list pretty much by default.  Who'd be at the top of your list?  Jeff Gordon?

Brad Keselowski. I'd make him cry.

STOP WRECKING PEOPLE BRAD.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on May 04, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Wyoming just signed a Swedish swingman.  I predict many new events popping up in Laramie.

"Wyoming shows workmanlike skills - gains 5% to all 3-point shooting"
"Wyoming moves the ball well - 2% increase in outside shooting percentage"
"Wyoming is cool - 4% more revenue from ticket sales"
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Wyoming has Summer Government. 12 divisions arrive in Laramie.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on May 04, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Wyoming has Summer Government. 12 divisions arrive in Laramie.

Jesus, we only have 3 supermarkets.  I hope they brought their own food.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 04, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Wyoming has Summer Government. 12 divisions arrive in Laramie.

Jesus, we only have 3 supermarkets.  I hope they brought their own food.

Their food exploded.  :(
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: sbr on May 04, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
I can't get my head around that.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on May 04, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
I can't get my head around that.

Yeah, a Swedish NCAA player is kinda strange.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: Valmy on May 04, 2014, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 04, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Wyoming has Summer Government. 12 divisions arrive in Laramie.

Jesus, we only have 3 supermarkets.  I hope they brought their own food.

Fortunately you have plenty of METH
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on May 04, 2014, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 04, 2014, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 04, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 04, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Wyoming has Summer Government. 12 divisions arrive in Laramie.

Jesus, we only have 3 supermarkets.  I hope they brought their own food.

Fortunately you have plenty of METH

:(  they stopped playing that ad last season.  No wonder the (real) Pokes sucked.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on May 05, 2014, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: PDH on May 04, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
I can't get my head around that.

Yeah, a Swedish NCAA player is kinda strange.

One of the reasons it is so rare is that the pro leagues in Europe pay a fair amount and so a good player in a European club system has a difficult choice to make - play pro now or hope that playing for nothing in the US college system will improve his chances of getting to the NBA - although look where he ended up play - probably doing it for the education    :)

I know someone in Denmark who is about to make that choice. He stayed with us as a billet when he was 14 when the Danish Junior nationals came on a tour.  He is now 18 and very highly recruited in Europe.  He will probably stay in the pro leagues in Europe and try to come to the attention of NBA scouts that way.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: PDH on May 05, 2014, 11:14:21 AM
This kid has been in the US for a few years, he just finished prep school in Kansas.
Title: Re: NCAA Hoops 2013
Post by: crazy canuck on May 05, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: PDH on May 05, 2014, 11:14:21 AM
This kid has been in the US for a few years, he just finished prep school in Kansas.

That explains it then.  Not good enough for the pro leagues in Europe  :P