Poll
Question:
How done do you prefer your steak?
Option 1: Blue Rare
votes: 2
Option 2: Rare
votes: 6
Option 3: Medium Rare
votes: 34
Option 4: Medium
votes: 8
Option 5: Medium Well
votes: 3
Option 6: Well Done
votes: 6
Option 7: Still Mooing
votes: 0
Option 8: Charcoal-y
votes: 0
Option 9: Don't eat/like steaks
votes: 5
So, in light of recent events regarding the POTUS' eating habits and the debate in the Trump government thread, here's the proper way to gauge Languish's opinion.
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So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
I did. I'm sure the assburgers will lecture me from their semen stained keyboards.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
I did. I'm sure the assburgers will lecture me from their semen stained keyboards.
Hey I am using my work computer!
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
I did. I'm sure the assburgers will lecture me from their semen stained keyboards.
you'd probably be less angry if you had your steak medium rare.
I think I actually prefer my steak a true medium, but if the kitchen screws it up I'd rather they go under than over, so I usually order medium-rare.
I have posted this before, and CdM was highly critical of the opinion, which is unfortunate because it is so correct. :(
The answer depends on the cut of meat. For example, I think a new york strip is best medium rare, a filet medium rare to medium, and a sirloin medium well.
Quote from: Gups on February 28, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
One of my concerns with ordering less than medium rare is that it tends to get cold rather fast, as it has been for such a short time in the grill. I guess that smaller cuts are the better suited to be ordered rare, right?
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
One of my concerns with ordering less than medium rare is that it tends to get cold rather fast, as it has been for such a short time in the grill.
:yes:
I feel like I'd need to gobble it down.
You could also cook it like DG does: Poorly done.
I know there are better steakhouses out there than the Keg, but their baseball sirloin, medium rare is to die for.
Quote from: Gups on February 28, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
This.
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
I had never heard of this bizarre gender stereotype but I am sheltered virtually all the racist and bigoted stereotypes and terms I know I learned here. Thanks guys!
Quote from: Valmy on February 28, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
I did. I'm sure the assburgers will lecture me from their semen stained keyboards.
Hey I am using my work computer!
:x :x :x
I think I've seen Sir Loin on stage.
Quote from: merithyn on February 28, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Gups on February 28, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
This.
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
B4 said it. He's kind of a troglodyte.
Overwhelming support for Medium Rare so far, I though it'd be the most voted but not by this margin.
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
Overwhelming support for Medium Rare so far, I though it'd be the most voted but not by this margin.
Lets see how this translates to electoral college votes before declaring a winner.
Quote from: garbon on February 28, 2017, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on February 28, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Gups on February 28, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
This.
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
B4 said it. He's kind of a troglodyte.
That's like saying the Pope is "kind of a Catholic".
Quote from: merithyn on February 28, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
:angry: I'm with you, Meri.
At home: medium to medium well.
At restaurant: well done, so I get it medium.
I won't be bothered if it's well done, but I'll hate it if they serve me a rare steak, or any meat rare.
That's what I hated the most from a trip to France, can't cook their meat.
Quote from: alfred russel on February 28, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
The answer depends on the cut of meat. For example, I think a new york strip is best medium rare, a filet medium rare to medium, and a sirloin medium well.
I totally agree :) Except for the medium rare. :yucky:
Quote from: derspiess on February 28, 2017, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on February 28, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
:angry: I'm with you, Meri.
It's because women have strong jaws from exercising their mouths so much, they can eat leather. :sleep:
Medium rare.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 28, 2017, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on February 28, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Gups on February 28, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Usually med-rare but sometimes rare - depends on the cut.
This.
And fuck you guys about how well-done is a woman's steak. :mad:
B4 said it. He's kind of a troglodyte.
That's like saying the Pope is "kind of a Catholic".
I was trying to be polite. :angry:
Medium rare is the sweet spot for me, but I don't get all weird about it if it shows up medium or rare.
Rare. I like to live on the wild side.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 28, 2017, 06:19:02 PM
Medium rare is the sweet spot for me, but I don't get all weird about it if it shows up medium or rare.
Yeah. Steak is hard to get just right, if the restaurant screws it up it is no big deal.
Historically, I've preferred the more well-done end of the spectrum, since that's what my family liked, but I've absorbed the idea that rarer is culturally superior, and have probably been influenced to move in that direction to some extent. So I would ask for "medium" probably, but the few times I've had steak in restaurants (not steakhouses), "medium" has looked more like "medium-well" on that chart. At home, I've experimented mostly with cheap cuts cooked in a pan, and a true "medium" would be my aim at this point. But I've enjoyed it rarer as well, and might get more out of that if I was using a more expensive cut and/or grilling it.
Quote from: alfred russel on February 28, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
I have posted this before, and CdM was highly critical of the opinion, which is unfortunate because it is so correct. :(
The answer depends on the cut of meat. For example, I think a new york strip is best medium rare, a filet medium rare to medium, and a sirloin medium well.
What are you talking about :mad: LINK PLZ
Quote from: Valmy on February 28, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: The Larch on February 28, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
So, who voted Well Done? Tamas? Ed? :P
I did. I'm sure the assburgers will lecture me from their semen stained keyboards.
Hey I am using my work computer!
Semen that isn't yours then. The janitor jacks off on your desk every night.
Did Valmy stick a penny in the elevator?
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 28, 2017, 07:36:36 PM
Historically, I've preferred the more well-done end of the spectrum, since that's what my family liked, but I've absorbed the idea that rarer is culturally superior, and have probably been influenced to move in that direction to some extent. So I would ask for "medium" probably, but the few times I've had steak in restaurants (not steakhouses), "medium" has looked more like "medium-well" on that chart. At home, I've experimented mostly with cheap cuts cooked in a pan, and a true "medium" would be my aim at this point. But I've enjoyed it rarer as well, and might get more out of that if I was using a more expensive cut and/or grilling it.
Mom's anxiety closet was large enough even before she became an RN, so salmonella, tapeworms and E. coli were fears that she went well over the top about--which is why we were raised on broiled beef and chicken breasts overcooked and additional 30 minutes until they were the consistency of hockey pucks.
My mom nuked the pork chops. You needed a chainsaw to eat them.
We used those as ping pong paddles.
I order medium. Tastes like rare, but doesn't feel like eating beefy canned tunafish. Y'all can keep your steak tartare. :yuk:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 28, 2017, 07:36:36 PM
Historically, I've preferred the more well-done end of the spectrum, since that's what my family liked, but I've absorbed the idea that rarer is culturally superior, and have probably been influenced to move in that direction to some extent. So I would ask for "medium" probably, but the few times I've had steak in restaurants (not steakhouses), "medium" has looked more like "medium-well" on that chart. At home, I've experimented mostly with cheap cuts cooked in a pan, and a true "medium" would be my aim at this point. But I've enjoyed it rarer as well, and might get more out of that if I was using a more expensive cut and/or grilling it.
Yeah, for the cheaper cuts of meat I recommend that you marinate them for a long time (a day or so) and then cook them to medium. For the better cuts medium rare is the way to go. Unless you don't care about tasting the meat. Then go well done and put a bunch of steak sauce over it.
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Quote from: Valmy on February 28, 2017, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 28, 2017, 06:19:02 PM
Medium rare is the sweet spot for me, but I don't get all weird about it if it shows up medium or rare.
Yeah. Steak is hard to get just right, if the restaurant screws it up it is no big deal.
A trained chef in a professional kitchen shouldn't have much trouble getting steaks cooked properly almost every time.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
$1steak
Holy shit, I thought you were joking. I think I have to try that now.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 28, 2017, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
$1steak
Holy shit, I thought you were joking. I think I have to try that now.
Type in "dollar tree steak" in Google and enjoy the reviews. :)
Quote from: sbr on February 28, 2017, 11:12:31 PM
A trained chef in a professional kitchen shouldn't have much trouble getting steaks cooked properly almost every time.
Nah, I order medium rare but get well-done all the time. It is easy to do when you cook one steak. When they get 30 orders at the same time, they screw up.
Anecdote warning!!
I've never worked in a restaurant in China.
I have worked in many restaurants in the US, including at least one high end steak house, and an improperly cooked steak going out would be a big deal.
Most often iy is a misunderstanding about what the terms mean to different people.
Quote from: sbr on February 28, 2017, 11:27:57 PM
Anecdote warning!!
I've never worked in a restaurant in China.
I have worked in many restaurants in the US, including at least one high end steak house, and an improperly cooked steak going out would be a big deal.
Most often iy is a misunderstanding about what the terms mean to different people.
Yeah, it is actually pretty hard to get a steak cook time wrong. If a medium rare steak is served medium or medium well, someone in the kitchen really messed up.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
You could also cook it like DG does: Poorly done.
:mad: What the fuck, man?
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 28, 2017, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
$1steak
Holy shit, I thought you were joking. I think I have to try that now.
Type in "dollar tree steak" in Google and enjoy the reviews. :)
That was an amusing 5 minutes. :)
Some restaurants have a policy of nothing less than medium well.
Quote from: DGuller on February 28, 2017, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
You could also cook it like DG does: Poorly done.
:mad: What the fuck, man?
A phrase you coined. You were posting how about cooking a steak and claimed to have discovered a new form: Poorly Done.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 28, 2017, 11:38:09 PM
Some restaurants have a policy of nothing less than medium well.
We call them McDonalds
Quote from: Barrister on February 28, 2017, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 28, 2017, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 28, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
$1steak
Holy shit, I thought you were joking. I think I have to try that now.
Type in "dollar tree steak" in Google and enjoy the reviews. :)
That was an amusing 5 minutes. :)
Yes. Yes, it was. I will be buying a couple in the near future and forcing myself to consume them. For science.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 28, 2017, 11:43:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 28, 2017, 11:38:09 PM
Some restaurants have a policy of nothing less than medium well.
We call them McDonalds
It's lawyers that do that, you know.
Quote from: sbr on February 28, 2017, 11:27:57 PM
Anecdote warning!!
I've never worked in a restaurant in China.
I have worked in many restaurants in the US, including at least one high end steak house, and an improperly cooked steak going out would be a big deal.
Most often iy is a misunderstanding about what the terms mean to different people.
I am not talking about steakhouses. There I expect excellence.
But your Applebees, or whatever, might fuck it up a bit.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 11:39:20 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 28, 2017, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
You could also cook it like DG does: Poorly done.
:mad: What the fuck, man?
A phrase you coined. You were posting how about cooking a steak and claimed to have discovered a new form: Poorly Done.
Oh. :blush:
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2017, 12:00:11 AM
I am not talking about steakhouses. There I expect excellence.
But your Applebees, or whatever, might fuck it up a bit.
I was thinking more Bohanan's (they don't screw it up ever) vs a chain steakhouse joint like Longhorn or Logan's or something (they're off a little sometimes and it's nbd).
I don't think I've ever had anyone torch a steak when I've asked for medium rare, although somewhat related, I've gotten a burger at Chili's that essentially wasn't cooked at all even after asking for well done because ground beef. I didn't eat that. Gross.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 01, 2017, 12:08:03 AM
I've gotten a burger at Chili's that essentially wasn't cooked at all even after asking for well done because ground beef. I didn't eat that. Gross.
Yeah, totally different story :lol: Those have to be well.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2017, 12:14:33 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 01, 2017, 12:08:03 AM
I've gotten a burger at Chili's that essentially wasn't cooked at all even after asking for well done because ground beef. I didn't eat that. Gross.
Yeah, totally different story :lol: Those have to be well.
I
did take a bigass bite of that thing when I got it. It was seared, or at least cooked looking, on the outside, but just light red/pink cold ground beef on the inside. Not good times.
I've also opened up and tossed back half of one of those little boxed of milk that was spoiled on the ship before I spit it out all over the place. It was chunky. My roommate said he couldn't decide whether to puke or laugh at the look on my face. :lol: I should probably....I dunno....at least do more than glance at things before I start eating or drinking them. :hmm:
You don't have to stop and smell it, but you should maybe be more deliberate than a bag of corn chips. :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2017, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: sbr on February 28, 2017, 11:27:57 PM
Anecdote warning!!
I've never worked in a restaurant in China.
I have worked in many restaurants in the US, including at least one high end steak house, and an improperly cooked steak going out would be a big deal.
Most often iy is a misunderstanding about what the terms mean to different people.
I am not talking about steakhouses. There I expect excellence.
But your Applebees, or whatever, might fuck it up a bit.
:lol:
Everything is fucked at Applebee's.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
:lol:
Everything is fucked at Applebee's.
It really is. I haven't set foot in an Applebee's since the GF's mother got food poisoning twice from the steak. It's overpriced, oversalted, undercooked, underflavored, and every drink from the bar to the soda fountain is so watered down it's disgusting. The only chain worse, IMO, is TGI Fridays. Famous Dave's also had a massive salt issue when I tried it, but I haven't been back to see if that was a one-off.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 01, 2017, 09:33:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
:lol:
Everything is fucked at Applebee's.
It really is. I haven't set foot in an Applebee's since the GF's mother got food poisoning twice from the steak. It's overpriced, oversalted, undercooked, underflavored, and every drink from the bar to the soda fountain is so watered down it's disgusting. The only chain worse, IMO, is TGI Fridays. Famous Dave's also had a massive salt issue when I tried it, but I haven't been back to see if that was a one-off.
:yes:
If one is going out to a restaurant in that same 'quality/price' bracket, one's choice should never be Applebee's.
I actually rather like the Outback in Rochester. I've been consistently pleased with the quality of their food and its preparation and service.
It isn't up to a real steakhouse standards, of course, but I can feed my family of 4 for about $60, and get very good steak properly prepared. I can only feed myself for that amount at a real steakhouse.
I, like BB, like medium but I aim for medium-rare so I have some leeway when cooking.
I rarely have steaks in restaurants.
The Outback within walking distance of my house does a decent job on steaks. Actually it seems like the cheaper the cut, the better job they do on it.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 09:59:01 AM
The Outback within walking distance of my house does a decent job on steaks. Actually it seems like the cheaper the cut, the better job they do on it.
That's an easy one: they do more of the cheaper cuts. Practice makes perfect.
I've never understood the point of an Australian themed steak house.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:06:48 AM
I've never understood the point of an Australian themed steak house.
The point is it sells.
One time in a previous job we had a liaison from an Australian company come visit our site. First place we took him was Outback, just to see his reaction. Thought he was gonna swallow his tongue.
Are there kangaroo statues? Waiters dressed like Crocodile Dundee? I hope so.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:17:41 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
The point is it sells.
That begs the question.
I can't fully answer, but ever since Crocodile Dundee Americans have just loved that over the top kitschy faux-Australian theme.
I can understand an Aussie theme if that is where they are sourcing their beef. But why would a US restaurant do that? I suppose an Australian theme seems exotic or at least more exotic than Texas?
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 10:18:38 AM
Are there kangaroo statues? Waiters dressed like Crocodile Dundee? I hope so.
No, just the decoration is all "Australian outback" themed, and the menu is full of annoying stereotypical Australian jargon. OMG BONZER
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
I can understand an Aussie theme if that is where they are sourcing their beef. But why would a US restaurant do that? I suppose an Australian theme seems exotic or at least more exotic than Texas?
Pretty much. There's no shortage of Texas-themed steakhouse chains.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
I can understand an Aussie theme if that is where they are sourcing their beef. But why would a US restaurant do that? I suppose an Australian theme seems exotic or at least more exotic than Texas?
Pretty much. There's no shortage of Texas-themed steakhouse chains.
Yeah, no kidding. In fact, all the middle tier chains that are NOT the Outback seem to be Texas themed...
As far as the Outback, it is just the theme. It doesn't really "mean" anything. Anymore than going to Johny Rockets means you are an 50s astronaut, or going to Planet Hollywood means you will get food from Hollywood. It just defines the theme.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
Pretty much. There's no shortage of Texas-themed steakhouse chains.
Yeah. There is/was a Texas themed steakhouse in Guam (Texas Roadhouse maybe?) that got real weird when they had their servers come out all cowboy-ed up (hats, chaps, etc) to...like.....line dance. :lol: I've never been to one here, but I'm assuming that's a thing with that particular chain vs a strange form of waitstaff abuse.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
I can understand an Aussie theme if that is where they are sourcing their beef. But why would a US restaurant do that? I suppose an Australian theme seems exotic or at least more exotic than Texas?
the founder really liked crocodile dundee. i think that is really the answer.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:20:57 AM
I can't fully answer, but ever since Crocodile Dundee Americans have just loved that over the top kitschy faux-Australian theme.
Sure, but it's not like the waitrons dress up in bush hats, or they have Vietnamese you can curb stomp between courses. No stuffed kangaroos and koalas. If they did like an Australian Hard Rock I could see it easier. Australians throw shrimps on barbies and eat lamb.
The only thing I can see is Australia has an image of friendly informality. So the hoi polloi can go eat a mid-priced steak and belch and scratch their nuts and no one will get snooty.
It's just a chain steakhouse with some Australian themed decor and names for menu items, man.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:20:57 AM
I can't fully answer, but ever since Crocodile Dundee Americans have just loved that over the top kitschy faux-Australian theme.
Sure, but it's not like the waitrons dress up in bush hats, or they have Vietnamese you can curb stomp between courses. No stuffed kangaroos and koalas. If they did like an Australian Hard Rock I could see it easier. Australians throw shrimps on barbies and eat lamb.
The only thing I can see is Australia has an image of friendly informality. So the hoi polloi can go eat a mid-priced steak and belch and scratch their nuts and no one will get snooty.
I googled it, and that's pretty much it.
QuoteAll the partners needed was a theme that would give their restaurant concept a memorable identity. At the time, the 1986 movie Crocodile Dundee had recently been released and become a big hit. Despite the fact that none of the restaurant's founders had ever been to Australia, the trio decided to give their venture an Australian theme. In this way, they would be tapping into the traditional 'western' association with steak, but with a twist. 'Most Australians are fun-loving and gregarious people, and very casual people,' Basham later told F & B Magazine. 'We thought, `That's exactly the kind of friendliness and atmosphere we want to have in our restaurants.' Then it was just a matter of coming up with an Australian name that worked for us. The Outback was kind of the wild, wild west of Australia. So there you go for the western theme. But instead of United States western, it's Australian western.'
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 01, 2017, 10:41:09 AM
It's just a chain steakhouse with some Australian themed decor and names for menu items, man.
:yes:
I just don't understand though. Why Australia? What does that have to do with steak?
Do they only hire Australians to work there?
What does it all MEAN????
Yi demands Aborigines playing didgeridoos in the waiting area.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Yi demands Aborigines playing didgeridoos in the waiting area.
The only thing I'm asking is that the American consumer ask himself what the fuck Australia has to do with steaks. I would be saying the same thing if they opened up a Scottish Sushi chain or an Egyptian fried chicken chain.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Yi demands Aborigines playing didgeridoos in the waiting area.
The only thing I'm asking is that the American consumer ask himself what the fuck Australia has to do with steaks. I would be saying the same thing if they opened up a Scottish Sushi chain or an Egyptian fried chicken chain.
"steak" is associated with the wild west and ranching / cowboys. The Outback is Australia's "wild west". It's foreign enough to differentiate itself in a crowded market, but safe enough to not feel threatening.
I wonder what Yi has against Australians.
Texan/cowboy steakhouses are pretty rare around here. They are seen as too tacky and if one wants to open and American steakhouse they usually aim for a California/NE theme.
Most common steakhouse around here is the Argentinian steakhouse, though.
I still have not gone to on of those....
But really, WTF does Argentina have to do with steak anyway?
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 11:07:05 AM
Texan/cowboy steakhouses are pretty rare around here. They are seen as too tacky and if one wants to open and American steakhouse they usually aim for a California/NE theme.
:blink:
Quote from: sbr on February 28, 2017, 11:27:57 PM
Anecdote warning!!
I've never worked in a restaurant in China.
I have worked in many restaurants in the US, including at least one high end steak house, and an improperly cooked steak going out would be a big deal.
Most often iy is a misunderstanding about what the terms mean to different people.
nearly all the restaurants I have gone to in Quebec had a tendancy to undercook the steak, and according to the chart in post #1, I am right on my definitions :)
Ordering a medium steak gives me a rare steak, so I usually order it well done to get a medium/medium well.
I think there's only one place in Quebec city I can order a medium and get it medium and it's not even a steakhouse.
Yi takes steakhouse themeing VERY SERIOUSLY.
A Cali themed steakhouse is pretty daffy though.
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 11:10:27 AM
Yi takes steakhouse themeing VERY SERIOUSLY.
If very means more than zero, sure. Why the hell would you open a Malibu Steak House or a Plymouth Rock Steak House? What's the association for Spaniards?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 11:10:27 AM
Yi takes steakhouse themeing VERY SERIOUSLY.
If very means more than zero, sure. Why the hell would you open a Malibu Steak House or a Plymouth Rock Steak House? What's the association for Spaniards?
Surfers, Hollywood, American Grafitti... It's not supposed to be ethnologically accurate.
The NE thing is probably because a lot of steakhouses around here borrow the Americanized beer hall look that I saw in a lot of steakhouses in NYC/Boston. Like Luger's.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
If very means more than zero, sure. Why the hell would you open a Malibu Steak House or a Plymouth Rock Steak House? What's the association for Spaniards?
I don't know about Plymouth Rock Steak House (sounds boring), but a Malibu thing would probably work for a mainstream chain type place. Throw some beach/California shit on the walls. Put a California surfer stereotype voiceover on the commercials. User Cali stereotype language on the menu in some places.
You have just created the Malibu version of Outback steakhouse.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 01, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
If very means more than zero, sure. Why the hell would you open a Malibu Steak House or a Plymouth Rock Steak House? What's the association for Spaniards?
I don't know about Plymouth Rock Steak House (sounds boring), but a Malibu thing would probably work for a mainstream chain type place. Serve steak and fish. Beach/California shit on the walls. Put a California surfer stereotype voiceover on the commercials.
You have just created the Malibu version of Outback steakhouse.
That's pretty much it really. You lean either on that or on Hollywood with lots of movie posters and photos of famous actors eating steaks.
Restaurant theme-ing is tacky and cheap. News at eleven.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:06:48 AM
I've never understood the point of an Australian themed steak house.
The point is it sells.
One time in a previous job we had a liaison from an Australian company come visit our site. First place we took him was Outback, just to see his reaction. Thought he was gonna swallow his tongue.
Elaborate, please. Never been to an outback. Don't think their are any in Quebec.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 01, 2017, 11:33:49 AM
Elaborate, please. Never been to an outback. Don't think their are any in Quebec.
Just stereotypes all over the place.
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 11:32:02 AM
That's pretty much it really. You lean either on that or on Hollywood with lots of movie posters and photos of famous actors eating steaks.
Restaurant theme-ing is tacky and cheap. News at eleven.
Yeah. Not a lot of (any) deep meaning to it. It's a gimmick that they hope will sell food.
Also, it's not like Australians don't eat steaks and an Australian steak house is some crazy unheard of thing.
E: Here's one: http://www.outbackjacks.com.au/menu/
There's a crocodile on the ceiling.
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Yi demands Aborigines playing didgeridoos in the waiting area.
The only thing I'm asking is that the American consumer ask himself what the fuck Australia has to do with steaks. I would be saying the same thing if they opened up a Scottish Sushi chain or an Egyptian fried chicken chain.
You know, sushi is pretty strongly linked to Japanese culture, but fried chicken is fairly ubiquitous. I'm pretty sure that because chicken is Halal, fried chicken is popular in the middle east. You could totally get away with doing Egyptian Fried Chicken.
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Americanized beer hall look
Not sure what you mean by this.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
They didn't rebrand shit. Some guys thought the concept would work, they opened a restaurant in Florida, and the concept took off like wildfire.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
Sure, but it's not like the waitrons dress up in bush hats, or they have Vietnamese you can curb stomp between courses.
:lol: "I'll have the Rule .303 entree with the baked potato, please."
I agree with Berkut, as far as chain restaurants go, the use decent cuts of meat, and none of their other stuff ever disappointed me.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 01, 2017, 11:42:28 AM
Also, it's not like Australians don't eat steaks and an Australian steak house is some crazy unheard of thing.
E: Here's one: http://www.outbackjacks.com.au/menu/
There's a crocodile on the ceiling.
It's interesting to me that the first thing you see on their web site is a half rack of ribs. That suggests to me this is not exactly home style Australian cooking.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
Because the people that had been going to Sizzlers for years were fucking dying from old age. I don't know about you, but I do not recall a time in my youth when we went to Sizzlers without a grandparent.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 11:52:13 AM
It's interesting to me that the first thing you see on their web site is a half rack of ribs. That suggests to me this is not exactly home style Australian cooking.
Yeah, the first photo on there should be Vegemite on bread.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
Outback is better than Sizzler.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2017, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
Because the people that had been going to Sizzlers for years were fucking dying from old age. I don't know about you, but I do not recall a time in my youth when we went to Sizzlers without a grandparent.
Ditto. And when I go eat reasonably priced steak I wanna see boomerangs & shit. None of that boring Sizzler decor.
Forgot to add, for those who have never been to an Outback-- one of their fun gimmicks is that they serve dark wheat (?) bread stabbed with a knife:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7167/6693754861_453125eb82_b.jpg)
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
Ditto. And when I go eat reasonably priced steak I wanna see boomerangs & shit. None of that boring Sizzler decor.
:D
Anyone know if the Outback people invented the onion ring bouquet, or did they rip it off? Definitely a very cool idea.
Pretty healthy, too :P
If you eat the whole thing with the dressing (not that any human would), that will give you your day's worth of calories.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 12:43:51 PM
Pretty healthy, too :P
If you eat the whole thing with the dressing (not that any human would), that will give you your day's worth of calories.
:lol: I'd probably have a heart attack just watching someone else do that.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 12:42:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
Ditto. And when I go eat reasonably priced steak I wanna see boomerangs & shit. None of that boring Sizzler decor.
:D
Anyone know if the Outback people invented the onion ring bouquet, or did they rip it off? Definitely a very cool idea.
They claim to have invented it.
Okay, so when should we start explaining to foreigners what Buca di Beppo is?
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 12:54:38 PM
Okay, so when should we start explaining to foreigners what Buca di Beppo is?
Never heard of it, but what's to explain? Italian-American restaurants are a well known phenomenon.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 12:54:38 PM
Okay, so when should we start explaining to foreigners what Buca di Beppo is?
Completely different thing. Virtually every country in the world takes foreign food and tweaks it for local tastes.
I went once to Bucca di Beppo. Was as close to "Italian American" as I could imagine without involving mob clichés.
Over here in my neck of the woods steakhouses and grills, if they do have a theme, it's Argentinian/Uruguayan, but that's mostly because they're run by people from there. Not a single US themed steakhouse that I'm aware (although we do have a diner style chain with burgers, milkshakes and waitresses in bright pink and blue 50s uniforms).
I remember going to an American-themed restaurant in Krakow with a bunch of Languishites in 2008. Everyone was amused. :)
Quote from: The Larch on March 01, 2017, 02:21:52 PM
Over here in my neck of the woods steakhouses and grills, if they do have a theme, it's Argentinian/Uruguayan, but that's mostly because they're run by people from there. Not a single US themed steakhouse that I'm aware (although we do have a diner style chain with burgers, milkshakes and waitresses in bright pink and blue 50s uniforms).
Same here, really. Argies rule Catalan steakhouses - and besides the ones ran by people from there, we do have fakes. We also have a modicum of American-themed ones.
They recently opened a 1950s-themed diner in downtown Barcelona. Looks totally straight off American Graffiti. Decent food, too.
Quote from: DGuller on March 01, 2017, 12:00:16 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 11:39:20 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 28, 2017, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 28, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
You could also cook it like DG does: Poorly done.
:mad: What the fuck, man?
A phrase you coined. You were posting how about cooking a steak and claimed to have discovered a new form: Poorly Done.
Oh. :blush:
No Sweat, Raz is here to remember for you.
Argentine restaurants up here tend to be fairly high-end places, plus they're also rare. In Miami there are several, and range from places we wouldn't step foot in to places we can barely afford. The ones in Little BA are right about in the sweet spot of affordability and quality.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
Argentine restaurants up here tend to be fairly high-end places, plus they're also rare. In Miami there are several, and range from places we wouldn't step foot in to places we can barely afford. The ones in Little BA are right about in the sweet spot of affordability and quality.
Here you find Argie places in all price ranges - but that's because we have so many Argentinian immigrants and they aren't all gonna drop 40€ for a good asado.
2 of the best steakhouse places in Barcelona are indeed Argentinian, and can cost you a pretty penny since they even fly the meat from there. But there's plenty of more affordable places with good steaks.
The whole tapas needs to end.
There's a steakhouse in town I like where you role play as Valmy.
Also, one of the most reputable steakhouses in here is Scottish. Is there a tradition of that?
Quote from: Barrister on March 01, 2017, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
Hey, I take Yi's side here. It's worth pondering why all of a sudden it seemed necessary to rebranding a huge chain based on a vague national stereotype to get Americans eating at the same Sizzlers they'd been going to for years.
They didn't rebrand shit. Some guys thought the concept would work, they opened a restaurant in Florida, and the concept took off like wildfire.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: celedhring on March 01, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
Argentine restaurants up here tend to be fairly high-end places, plus they're also rare. In Miami there are several, and range from places we wouldn't step foot in to places we can barely afford. The ones in Little BA are right about in the sweet spot of affordability and quality.
Here you find Argie places in all price ranges - but that's because we have so many Argentinian immigrants and they aren't all gonna drop 40€ for a good asado.
2 of the best steakhouse places in Barcelona are indeed Argentinian, and can cost you a pretty penny since they even fly the meat from there. But there's plenty of more affordable places with good steaks.
There's a hoity-toity Argentinian place here that does that, bringing the meat directly from the pampa or somesuch. They charge a pretty penny but it's very good, my parents like to go there like once or twice per year, mostly for celebrations. The one we go much more often to is run by Uruguayans and it's much more "proletarian", so to speak, but also quite nice, and we go there a lot for family lunches.
For whatever reason, it seems like Brazilian steakhouses became the fad in the US, much moreso than any other country (except Australia in the form of Outback, of course).
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 01, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
For whatever reason, it seems like Brazilian steakhouses became the fad in the US, much moreso than any other country (except Australia in the form of Outback, of course).
Yeah, Brazillian steakhouses are a thing up here as well.
Unlike Outback though they do that kind of "all the meat you can eat" style service in Brazil.
You guys seen Bridesmaids? :ph34r:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2017, 11:52:13 AM
It's interesting to me that the first thing you see on their web site is a half rack of ribs. That suggests to me this is not exactly home style Australian cooking.
I don't think Outhouse Steakback is supposed to be an Australian restaurant. The whole Aussie thing is just a theme.
Mihali is the first I've seen to believe that it is a rebranding. Maybe he's eaten too many Sizzler "steaks."
Not a fan of steak.
If I'm going to eat beef I prefer a burger, but really in general I'm more of a poultry fan.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 01, 2017, 06:16:28 PM
Not a fan of steak.
If I'm going to eat beef I prefer a burger, but really in general I'm more of a poultry fan.
Tim likes cock.
Teehee ^_^
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 01, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 01, 2017, 06:16:28 PM
Not a fan of steak.
If I'm going to eat beef I prefer a burger, but really in general I'm more of a poultry fan.
Tim likes cock.
I laughed
Makes me miss Rufweed. :(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2017, 11:43:47 PM
Makes me miss Rufweed. :(
You could unban Marty for the next best thing. :P
:mad: Unlike Marti, Rufweed is most decidedly not self-loathing about his non-traditional maleness.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
I can understand an Aussie theme if that is where they are sourcing their beef. But why would a US restaurant do that? I suppose an Australian theme seems exotic or at least more exotic than Texas?
Pretty much. There's no shortage of Texas-themed steakhouse chains.
Late, but this. For illustration, in the closest shopping hub "city" to me, there are a Chili's and a Longhorn Steakhouse next door to each other, with a Texas Roadhouse across the street, and until it closed, a Bob Evans next door to
that. Even the lowest common denominator of (non fast-food) "American" cuisine, Denny's, tries to cash in on the "southern/southwestern steakhouse" thing.
You know, coming back to this thread, it occurred to me there are several Canadian restaurant chains that, to one degree or another, all trade on a theme of being from somewhere else, even though in truth they are 100% Canadian.
Boston Pizza - doesn't have anything Boston-related in it's interior or menu, but the name itself - it has zero ties to the city of Boston (started out in Edmonton in fact).
Swiss Chalet - they serve rotisserie chicken meals. There's nothing "Swiss" about it though, other than a vaguely chalet-inspired decor.
Eat Side Mario's - It's Italian-American food, with heavy, heavy New York City-inspired decor. There logo used to be the Statue of Liberty holding a tomato.
Montana's Cookhouse - decor isn't specifically "Montana", but very heavy on exposed log construction, dead animals on the wall.
New York Fries - a staple of Canadian mall food courts. Not really any "decor", but advertisements used to have a strong NYC taxi-cab theme to them
There are also chains that serve asian food, like Thai Express, Edo Japan, Panda Express, Mandarin.
Boston Pizza isn't even a pizza place!
Swiss Chalet was terrible.
Quote from: Berkut on March 02, 2017, 05:42:04 PM
Boston Pizza isn't even a pizza place!
:huh:
Pizza is on the menu.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 02, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
Swiss Chalet was terrible.
It's barely a step up from fast food. It's cheap, and you get what you pay for.
I've had much, MUCH better fast food.
Quote from: Barrister on March 02, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 02, 2017, 05:42:04 PM
Boston Pizza isn't even a pizza place!
:huh:
Pizza is on the menu.
It's on the menu at Olive Garden too.
I liked Swiss Chalet. It's just Boston Market with annoying Canadians.
Leaving out stuff like KFC, Burger King, McD's, Domino's, etc... some American-themed chains we have:
- Foster's Hollywood: burger and grill place. Theme obvious from the name.
- TGB (The Good Burger): New York-themed burger place.
- Timesburg: same as above. Actually some great burgers.
- Cup & Cake: hipster themed (really) coffee shop.
- Barba Rossa Beach Bar: biker/americana burgers and ribs. Extremely tacky :lol:
- The Good Bagel: NY themed bagel place. Not related to TGB. Closing down nowadays which sucks since I love bagels.
- Tommy Mel's: 1950s diner
- Peggy Sue's: same as above, but "softer" themed.
- Ribs: Texan (as in cowboys and shit) BBQ place.
- Surf House: Cali/surfer theme, burgers, salads and cocktails.
Note that Barcelona is the hipster capital of Spain, so our tastes then to gravitate towards that area. Hipster/Brooklyn looking coffee places are dime a dozen.
They don't eat ribs in Texas! They eat brisket! :mad:
I eat ribs. :mmm:
We still lead the world with our breastaraunts. No scribes allowed.
Can't think of any steak house chains part from the Aberdeen Angus ones which only tourists eat at.
There are a few high end mini-chains (with maybe 10 outlets or so).
The big trend at the top places is for steak from old (8 year plus) dairy cows, mainly from Spain especially Galicia. Not tried it myself but looking forward to doing so.
Quote from: celedhring on March 03, 2017, 03:11:42 AM
Leaving out stuff like KFC, Burger King, McD's, Domino's, etc... some American-themed chains we have:
- Foster's Hollywood: burger and grill place. Theme obvious from the name.
- TGB (The Good Burger): New York-themed burger place.
- Timesburg: same as above. Actually some great burgers.
- Cup & Cake: hipster themed (really) coffee shop.
- Barba Rossa Beach Bar: biker/americana burgers and ribs. Extremely tacky :lol:
- The Good Bagel: NY themed bagel place. Not related to TGB. Closing down nowadays which sucks since I love bagels.
- Tommy Mel's: 1950s diner
- Peggy Sue's: same as above, but "softer" themed.
- Ribs: Texan (as in cowboys and shit) BBQ place.
- Surf House: Cali/surfer theme, burgers, salads and cocktails.
Note that Barcelona is the hipster capital of Spain, so our tastes then to gravitate towards that area. Hipster/Brooklyn looking coffee places are dime a dozen.
Out of those we only have Foster's, Tommy Mel's and Peggy Sue in my neck of the woods.
A lot of those might be regional chains. The hipster coffee shop/restaurant is Barcelona's latest malaise. Cup & Cake's waiters are particularly hilarious :lol:
(https://ellasbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_6948.jpg)
I like the way the guy on the left is looking at the waiter.
Quote from: celedhring on March 03, 2017, 11:20:48 AM
A lot of those might be regional chains. The hipster coffee shop/restaurant is Barcelona's latest malaise. Cup & Cake's waiters are particularly hilarious :lol:
(https://ellasbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_6948.jpg)
They look like hipsters? What's the funny bit?
It's a coffee shop chain with a hipster theme. I find it hilarious but YMMV.
Everyday sights :weep:
Quote from: celedhring on March 03, 2017, 11:20:48 AM
A lot of those might be regional chains. The hipster coffee shop/restaurant is Barcelona's latest malaise. Cup & Cake's waiters are particularly hilarious :lol:
(https://ellasbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_6948.jpg)
He's missing his bright green bowtie and Buddy Holly glasses.
Quote from: celedhring on March 03, 2017, 11:20:48 AM
A lot of those might be regional chains. The hipster coffee shop/restaurant is Barcelona's latest malaise. Cup & Cake's waiters are particularly hilarious :lol:
(https://ellasbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_6948.jpg)
Vienna has its share of hipster places, but the only one I endorse is Gorilla Kitchen and its burritos: http://www.gorillakitchen.at/?lang=en
Quote from: Syt on March 03, 2017, 11:50:36 AM
Vienna has its share of hipster places, but the only one I endorse is Gorilla Kitchen and its burritos: http://www.gorillakitchen.at/?lang=en
I'm sure it's a great place, but the gorilla's ass in their signage would make me want to eat somewhere else.
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2017, 12:06:32 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 03, 2017, 11:50:36 AM
Vienna has its share of hipster places, but the only one I endorse is Gorilla Kitchen and its burritos: http://www.gorillakitchen.at/?lang=en
I'm sure it's a great place, but the gorilla's ass in their signage would make me want to eat somewhere else.
Stay in your comfort zone at all times.
Quote from: The Brain on March 03, 2017, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2017, 12:06:32 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 03, 2017, 11:50:36 AM
Vienna has its share of hipster places, but the only one I endorse is Gorilla Kitchen and its burritos: http://www.gorillakitchen.at/?lang=en
I'm sure it's a great place, but the gorilla's ass in their signage would make me want to eat somewhere else.
Stay in your comfort zone at all times.
Nothing wrong with comfort zone, that's the most comfortable place to be in.
Burgers are a major thing for hipsters these past few years.
Which is curious as they're also traditionally down there with kebabs in the crappy and possibly poisoned cheap food sold by hairy Middle Eastern guys brigade.
These guys arent idiots.
Surely they must see the effect having a fashionable young guy serving and nice decor has. The amount you can mark up the prices by....
Alas in Switzerland most of this stuff has passed us by. Our latest thing is kebab shops selling tacos. Wow.
For steak my work canteen does it at a pretty decent and affordable price. It keeps my cravings under control.
Quote from: celedhring on March 03, 2017, 03:11:42 AM
Leaving out stuff like KFC, Burger King, McD's, Domino's, etc... some American-themed chains we have:
- Foster's Hollywood: burger and grill place. Theme obvious from the name.
- TGB (The Good Burger): New York-themed burger place.
- Timesburg: same as above. Actually some great burgers.
- Cup & Cake: hipster themed (really) coffee shop.
- Barba Rossa Beach Bar: biker/americana burgers and ribs. Extremely tacky :lol:
- The Good Bagel: NY themed bagel place. Not related to TGB. Closing down nowadays which sucks since I love bagels.
- Tommy Mel's: 1950s diner
- Peggy Sue's: same as above, but "softer" themed.
- Ribs: Texan (as in cowboys and shit) BBQ place.
- Surf House: Cali/surfer theme, burgers, salads and cocktails.
Note that Barcelona is the hipster capital of Spain, so our tastes then to gravitate towards that area. Hipster/Brooklyn looking coffee places are dime a dozen.
Does "Timesburg" and "Tommy Mel" sound American to Spaniards?
I had a well done steak today. And yes, there was ketchup involved. Mainly for the 'zesty' fries. Some meat got dunked though.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 10, 2017, 09:16:04 PM
I had a well done steak today. And yes, there was ketchup involved. Mainly for the 'zesty' fries. Some meat got dunked though.
(https://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0514c269a1d44e977550cb9770bba8c9310d6b-wm.jpg?v=3)
I believe the correct Internet spelling is, "Your worse then Hilter!!!11" :P
Oh, funk me!!!11