HOF vote:
Maddux, Glavine and Thomas in.
Biggio missed by 2 votes. His % is up and he will get in, probably next year.
Morris did well on his final ballot but came up short. Clearly the right result despite a very fine career.
I'm not going to say much about the steroid issue because I said my piece in the 2013 thread. Piazza gained a few votes but not anywhere near the level that should be earned by the greatest hitting catcher who ever lived. Bagwell actually lost ground this year despite the lack of any evidence whatsoever of steroid use. It is a ridiculous situation that cannot continue.
Tim Raines also lost votes despite no steroid issue - I assume this is because of ballot crowding. Unfortunately that is only getting worse as lots of strong candidates (RJ, Pedro, Smoltz, Griffrey, Hoffman) and Roid suspect backloggers (Sheffield, Pudge, Manny) go on tha ballot in the next few years. That is another sad side effect of the steroid mess - solid but B level HOFers are going to struggle for ballot room and get shunted aside.
Along those lines, Trammel lost significant support and looks hopeless now, despite comparing quite favorably to Biggio. Given the drop in support and the backlog, even a campaign and a 14th year bump probably won't carry him in.
Mussina only got 20% in his first year and Schilling dropped below 40% notwithstanding Glavine (who is not materiallt a stronger candidate than either) breezing through with over 90%. This is not a roid issue, just a general BBWAA voting incompetence problem.
Mike Mussina?? HOF??
How the hell did Maddux not get voted unanimously? The Baseball HOF voters make no sense.
The main thing I remember about Glavine is his douchebaggery during the 1994 players strike. Annoyed I will have to see him if I ever visit Cooperstown.
Quote from: Valmy on January 09, 2014, 04:53:48 PM
How the hell did Maddux not get voted unanimously? The Baseball HOF voters make no sense.
There is always a few douchebags that vote no on everyone first time out of "principle", or some similar stupidity. Or there may be some blank ballot protestors.
Yi- if you look at the numbers carefully, I think there is a good case that Mussina was better than Glavine. The ERAs are similar but Glavine pitched in the NL with good defenses behind him most years, Mussina pitched in the AL and during his period in the Yankees was backed by some of the worst defenses in modern baseball history. Glavines career totals look more impressive in part because he hung around 2 years past his sell-by date, while Mussina retired literally at the top of his game. If you prefer to focus on conventional stats like W-L, Mussina won 270 games with a win percentage of .638. No one has ever won that many games at over 60% and not made the Hall. IMO it is not really close.
But wasn't Moose a perennial play off goat?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
But wasn't Moose a perennial play off goat?
No
Liftime postseason record 7-8, 3.42 ERA, 4+ k/w ratio.
He actually pitched better post-season than regular season. Just didn't get good run support/luck.
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Why?
More than 3000 hits, 5th in doubles all time and a solid defensive player. He's definitely worthy.
Biggio should have gotten in. That was ridiculous. But he only missed by two votes so he should get in next year.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 09, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Why?
More than 3000 hits, 5th in doubles all time and a solid defensive player. He's definitely worthy.
...and now tainted.
Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 09, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Why?
More than 3000 hits, 5th in doubles all time and a solid defensive player. He's definitely worthy.
...and now tainted.
One of my favorite baseball players too.
*takes a drink*
And here's the top contender for the most boring thread of 2014.
Man, even a curling thread would be more interesting than this.
Quote from: Barrister on January 09, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
And here's the top contender for the most boring thread of 2014.
Man, even a curling thread would be more interesting than this.
No need to be bitter just because no Kansas City Royals got in this year.
Quote from: Valmy on January 09, 2014, 04:53:48 PM
How the hell did Maddux not get voted unanimously? The Baseball HOF voters make no sense.
No one else ever has been, so why would you expect him to be the first? In fact, probably some guys didn't vote for him on the theory that if Ruth, Aaron, Mays, etc., weren't unanimous choices, no one should be. Apparantly some sportswriters' parents never taught them that 2 wrongs don't make a right. Heck, some of 'em turn in ballots so shitty that I suspect their parents never potty trained them either.
Quote from: Barrister on January 09, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
And here's the top contender for the most boring thread of 2014.
Man, even a curling thread would be more interesting than this.
*takes a drink*
:lol:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 09, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Why?
More than 3000 hits, 5th in doubles all time and a solid defensive player. He's definitely worthy.
I was pretty sure I made a long numbers heavy post here last year about Biggio and the HoF but I can't find it now, maybe it was somewhere else. Either way I don't have the energy to do it again now.
The only case that can be made for Biggio is his numbers. I am not a big numbers guy; especially when it comes to HoF players. You should not have to look at baseball-reference to see if a guy is a Hall of Famer, you should just know.
In 20 seasons Biggio made 7 All Star games; won 4 Gold Gloves; 5 Silver Sluggers. In 20 seasons he finished in the top 20 (TOP 20!!) of the NL MVP voting 5 times; Top 10 3 times and never finished higher than 4th (16 in 1994; 10 in 1995; 4 in 1997; 5 in 1998; 12 in 1999). To me those number say a lot more about his Hall of Fame worthyness than accumulating 3000 hits in 2800 games.
Biggio stayed healthy and played in a lot of games (16th all time) and amassed a lot of numbers, but I am looking for more in a Hall of Famer. In my personal Hall of Fame Biggio is barely a borderline guy, but Curt Schilling is a unanimous first ballot slam dunk.
Someone try and tell the story of Major League Baseball since 1988 without mentioning Curt Schilling, it is impossible. Now do the same without mentioning Craig Biggio. What do you miss out on? A few decent teams with above average offenses in a hitter's ballpark?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
:lol:
A Languish drinking game would be an absolute exercise in who could arrive at the emergency room first.
I kind of want to go to Cooperstown to see the plaques for Glavine, Maddux, and Cox. These are the first guys that I grew up watching (on the team I was following) to get in. I figure that will make me feel a bit old. I remember being a kid and trading away Glavine's rookie card after he got lit up one night because I concluded he sucked.
Hopefully, Bobby Cox's photo is of him picking his nose. Since that was what he was always doing when the camera cut to him.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
Hopefully, Bobby Cox's photo is of him picking his nose. Since that was what he was always doing when the camera cut to him.
I think he also broke the record for the most times getting thrown out of games. Boogers and ejections are awesome, but I think Jim Leyland smoking in the dugout was better.
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 09, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
I love dan LeBetard for his stunt with deadspin.
I am still happy Biggio didn't get in.
Why?
More than 3000 hits, 5th in doubles all time and a solid defensive player. He's definitely worthy.
I was pretty sure I made a long numbers heavy post here last year about Biggio and the HoF but I can't find it now, maybe it was somewhere else. Either way I don't have the energy to do it again now.
The only case that can be made for Biggio is his numbers. I am not a big numbers guy; especially when it comes to HoF players. You should not have to look at baseball-reference to see if a guy is a Hall of Famer, you should just know.
In 20 seasons Biggio made 7 All Star games; won 4 Gold Gloves; 5 Silver Sluggers. In 20 seasons he finished in the top 20 (TOP 20!!) of the NL MVP voting 5 times; Top 10 3 times and never finished higher than 4th (16 in 1994; 10 in 1995; 4 in 1997; 5 in 1998; 12 in 1999). To me those number say a lot more about his Hall of Fame worthyness than accumulating 3000 hits in 2800 games.
Biggio stayed healthy and played in a lot of games (16th all time) and amassed a lot of numbers, but I am looking for more in a Hall of Famer. In my personal Hall of Fame Biggio is barely a borderline guy, but Curt Schilling is a unanimous first ballot slam dunk.
Someone try and tell the story of Major League Baseball since 1988 without mentioning Curt Schilling, it is impossible. Now do the same without mentioning Craig Biggio. What do you miss out on? A few decent teams with above average offenses in a hitter's ballpark?
Baseball is all about the numbers. Biggio is the only player in history with at least 3,000 hits, 600 doubles, 400 stolen bases and 250 home runs. I would vote for him on the first ballot, no question.
You can't tell the story of baseball since '98 without mentioning Schilling because he was on great teams. You shouldn't get bonus points for that. His stats are good enough to get in, but they're not first ballot good.
The best case for Biggio is not IMO the counting totals b/c he reached those milestones in part by playing 2 extra years when he had no business playing anymore, much less as a regular. The better case I think is that he was a player that really did everything well. And I mean everything, there was one year he had over 700 plate appearances and didn't ground into a double play. Zero. It's pretty amazing if you think about it. The same year he got hit of pitches 36 times. Only two players since the 19th century ever had more. Biggio is the career leader in HBP after one 19th century guy.
Overall I think he is kind of borderline for me but I would be happy to see him make the cut
BUT
I don't see how he gets votes and yet Trammel does not. Trammell hit about as well but was a better defender playing a more demanding position. Really it shows that the voters are being overly influenced by round career numbers. Trammell had injury problems late career and couldn't stick around till his 40s padding out hit numbers. That shouldn't hurt his Hall credentials.
Did anyone else see the 60 minutes story on Alex Rodriguez? Man that guy seems to have pissed off the commissioner's office.
Physical freak Mike Trout
http://instagram.com/p/jO8aExH_qG/
Just had my first fantasy draft of the year. Picked 7th out of 10. Normal 5x5 Head-to-Head. The 7th pick was terrible this year, the top tier ends at 5 imo. I ended up going with too many high risk/high reward guys and there is not nearly enough speed here.
C Y Molina
1B C Davis
2B B Zobrist
3B K Seager
SS B Miller (Sea)
2B/SS J Gyorko
1B/3B A Pujols
OF R Braun
OF Y Puig
OF J Upton
OF D Brown
OF N Aoki
UTIL M Texiera
P G Gonzalez
P J Zimmerman
P T Rosenthal
P J Teheran
P M Wacha
P J Grilli
P D Robertson
P S Chisek
P Y Gallardo
B C Archer
B T Lincecum
B D Gee
Reds suck.
Quote from: sbr on March 17, 2014, 09:45:25 PM
Just had my first fantasy draft of the year. Picked 7th out of 10. Normal 5x5 Head-to-Head. The 7th pick was terrible this year, the top tier ends at 5 imo. I ended up going with too many high risk/high reward guys and there is not nearly enough speed here.
C Y Molina
1B C Davis
2B B Zobrist
3B K Seager
SS B Miller (Sea)
2B/SS J Gyorko
1B/3B A Pujols
OF R Braun
OF Y Puig
OF J Upton
OF D Brown
OF N Aoki
UTIL M Texiera
P G Gonzalez
P J Zimmerman
P T Rosenthal
P J Teheran
P M Wacha
P J Grilli
P D Robertson
P S Chisek
P Y Gallardo
B C Archer
B T Lincecum
B D Gee
That sucks as a fantasy team. Granted, it would suck even more as a real lineup, but sheesh.
Quote from: alfred russel on January 09, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
I kind of want to go to Cooperstown to see the plaques for Glavine, Maddux, and Cox. These are the first guys that I grew up watching (on the team I was following) to get in. I figure that will make me feel a bit old. I remember being a kid and trading away Glavine's rookie card after he got lit up one night because I concluded he sucked.
Everyone should visit at least once. Shame it's so far out of the way to plan much else around it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 17, 2014, 09:46:46 PM
Reds suck.
:nelson:
New manager's got a ton of personality, to boot.
I still like minor league ball better. Like the Dayton Dragons.
Problem is, hipsters are starting to infect the area around Fifth Third Field as Dayton attempts to rebuild the area.
I hate Dayton Hipsters.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 18, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
I still like minor league ball better. Like the Dayton Dragons.
Problem is, hipsters are starting to infect the area around Fifth Third Field as Dayton attempts to rebuild the area.
I hate Dayton Hipsters.
What distinguishes them from hipsters elsewhere?
They don't hate you enough.
:lol:
Quote from: derspiess on March 18, 2014, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 09, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
I kind of want to go to Cooperstown to see the plaques for Glavine, Maddux, and Cox. These are the first guys that I grew up watching (on the team I was following) to get in. I figure that will make me feel a bit old. I remember being a kid and trading away Glavine's rookie card after he got lit up one night because I concluded he sucked.
Everyone should visit at least once. Shame it's so far out of the way to plan much else around it.
This coming from you of all people? There's Ommegang Brewery, Cooperstown Brewery, Butternuts Brewery, the F.X. Matt Brewery, the Farmer's Museum, Fort Stanwix National Monument, Oriskany Battlefield, Remington Arms, Munson Williams Proctor Art Institute, and much, much more all within an hour. I could list off even more places, but these are simply ones in Cooperstown or just west in Utica or Rome.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 19, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
This coming from you of all people? There's Ommegang Brewery, Cooperstown Brewery, Butternuts Brewery, the F.X. Matt Brewery, the Farmer's Museum, Fort Stanwix National Monument, Oriskany Battlefield, Remington Arms, Munson Williams Proctor Art Institute, and much, much more all within an hour. I could list off even more places, but these are simply ones in Cooperstown or just west in Utica or Rome.
:Embarrass: Last time I was there was 1982.
I finally looked at the Aroldis Chapman pic :yucky:
Blue Jays will suck.
This stringing along of the start of the season really annoys me.
First there are 2 fake games in Australia 3 weeks ago that count in the standings. Now one game tonight. Then more tomorrow, but still not everyone.
They need to go back to the good old days where all of the teams opened on the same day, one big orgy of baseballey goodness.
Christ, I just want Nelson Cruz to last until the All-Star Break before he blows the usual tire.
Quote from: sbr on March 30, 2014, 04:27:29 PM
This stringing along of the start of the season really annoys me.
First there are 2 fake games in Australia 3 weeks ago that count in the standings. Now one game tonight. Then more tomorrow, but still not everyone.
They need to go back to the good old days where all of the teams opened on the same day, one big orgy of baseballey goodness.
Yep. Leave well enough alone. Also Opening Day should be a federal holiday.
Reds fans are awfully optimistic for a team that has like 7 players on the DL. But all it will take is them dropping the first two games against St. Louis & it'll be doom & gloom :menace:
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So basically you love the Red Sox or the Yankees unless there is another team nearby. LOL at the Padres.
The Padres are like the Cubs, without the fanbase.
Looks like the Mets don't have any fans either.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 31, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Looks like the Mets don't have any fans either.
Being the #2 team in New York still gets you a lot of fans.
Quote from: derspiess on March 31, 2014, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 31, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Looks like the Mets don't have any fans either.
Being the #2 team in New York still gets you a lot of fans.
When ever I see a foreigner going on about the evil Yankees I just assume they are Mets fans.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 31, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
When ever I see a foreigner going on about the evil Yankees I just assume they are Mets fans.
:D
Though the Mets fan New Yorkers I know will generally circle the wagons & root for the Yankees in a lot of cases. I'd guess there's probably more hatred coming from Red Sox or Phillies fans.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 31, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Looks like the Mets don't have any fans either.
Or the As.
Californians are such bandwagoners that state would have been all green in the 70s and 80s.
Quote from: Valmy on March 31, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
Californians are such bandwagoners that state would have been all green in the 70s and 80s.
Easy to do when you have no soul.
I'd have thoughts the Mets at least would have taken Queens County and maybe Nassau. :(
It looks like they got a county in north-central Oklahoma though? :huh:
Yay opening day!
We were just making fun of the Cubs pitchers douchestache and talking about how he deserves a walk off HR against him for that nasty shit. Sure enough: a meatball gets crushed for a Pirates W. :)
I missed baseball more than I would have thought.
:yeah:
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2014, 03:47:44 PM
:yeah:
Did you watch the whole thing? Must have been riveting :P
Quote from: derspiess on March 31, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2014, 03:47:44 PM
:yeah:
Did you watch the whole thing? Must have been riveting :P
:P I had the radio broadcast on in the background.
Nice HR for Cruuuuuuuuuuz there
Cards win. Tuning into postgame radio to enjoy the wheels falling off the Red Machine just one game into the season.
Reds are shitty.
Quote from: derspiess on March 31, 2014, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 31, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
When ever I see a foreigner going on about the evil Yankees I just assume they are Mets fans.
:D
Though the Mets fan New Yorkers I know will generally circle the wagons & root for the Yankees in a lot of cases. I'd guess there's probably more hatred coming from Red Sox or Phillies fans.
The mets fans I know here in Central New York are generally the second biggest group of Yankees haters after Red Sox fans.
Haha! Suck it Timmy!
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 31, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Reds are shitty.
One game in, they seem to be continuing their offensive slump from last year.
I didn't go to the game but just as I was driving past the stadium on my way home Yadi hit his home run. Given how vilified he is around here, it was sweet and fitting that his solo shot was the one run scored in the game.
O's win. Nelson Cruz manages to hit something and not land on the 60-day DL. Then again, there's always tomorrow.
Despite their best efforts, the Tribe pulled out the shut out win. Well worth the listen. I love The Baseball. :wub:
Los Gigantes came back to win with 2run HR from Buster Posey.
Hope sign of things to come.
The Reds were kind enough to hold back the game until i got home from dinner, around 9:30pm. It may have also rained a little.
Matt Adams seems to be having an early onset of secondyearitis. Dropped a double play ball Monday and got picked off at first (he doesn't even steal, wtf) tonight. And Peralta is going to have to do a bit more to prove he's worth the trouble (might help if he changed the spelling of his name-- "Jhonny"??).
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 31, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
O's win. Nelson Cruz manages to hit something and not land on the 60-day DL. Then again, there's always tomorrow.
The Bullpen melted down. Oh joy.
Glad I held off on buying tickets for the businessman's special tomorrow. Looks like it's gonna rain & rain & rain.
Pittsburgh and Chicago are in the 16h inning ... :unsure:
And that's it. :)
Quote from: Valmy on April 02, 2014, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 31, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
O's win. Nelson Cruz manages to hit something and not land on the 60-day DL. Then again, there's always tomorrow.
The Bullpen melted down. Oh joy.
Get used to that shit this season.
:pirate
So many Southerners rooting for the Yankees. :(
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 05, 2014, 02:51:48 AM
So many Southerners rooting for the Yankees. :(
And people say they are still fighting the Civil War.
Yeah the Orioles finally won another game! Man what a brutal start.
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 10:47:40 AM
Yeah the Orioles finally won another game! Man what a brutal start.
Oh, they've had worse starts :D
Reds fans are on suicide watch. Homer Bailey apparently sucks, Cueto has sucked so far (though nobody will admit it), Votto hasn't homered yet, and Billy Hamilton is batting .091 so far (can't steal bases if you can't get on!). But then when the Reds string together a few wins, everyone will be predicting a WS title.
My only gripe with the Cards thus far has been Lance Lynn. He's the luckiest MLB pitcher in the past 2-3 years with all the run support he's gotten. He's an anchor in the rotation and sooner or later his W-L will reflect that.
Quote from: derspiess on April 09, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2014, 10:47:40 AM
Yeah the Orioles finally won another game! Man what a brutal start.
Oh, they've had worse starts :D
HEY NOW :mad:
Finally was able to watch a game and of course the Sox lose 10-7 <_<
Cardinals avoid getting swept by the overachieving Brewers. Previous two games were painful. I should know by now if it goes into extra innings, they're gonna lose.
Brewers are the hottest team in baseball right now, but I can't see that holding up. If I'm wrong, please don't refer to this post in September.
Orioles pitching has managed not to fold against the Pirates the last two rain outs.
I've finally gotten myself a router, so I can properly use my wireless devices at home and it also doubles as a media server. And I've hooked up my LG Blu Ray player. Their premium offer sucks, but hey - I can link my MLB.tv subscription to it, so I can watch ballgames on the big screen now. Yay technology. :)
I had mlb.tv all season last year. Haven't started it yet this year, just doing the app with streaming audio so far.
I've been subscribing fr the last few years, but so far I could only watch on my computer.
So I finally made it to a game Friday. Amazing how much faster the games go when you have free food & booze. Darth Vader threw out the first pitch but didn't make it over the plate.
Hope the Cards snap out of their funk. When you almost get swept by the Cubs, that's a hell of a reality check.
Quote from: derspiess on May 05, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
So I finally made it to a game Friday. Amazing how much faster the games go when you have free food & booze. Darth Vader threw out the first pitch but didn't make it over the plate.
Hope the Cards snap out of their funk. When you almost get swept by the Cubs, that's a hell of a reality check.
The Braves have dropped 6 straight and they start playing the Cards tonight. So something has to give.
I think I'm going to the game on Wed.
I was in Seattle on Thursday night but the stupid mariners were in new York
Quote from: alfred russel on May 05, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
The Braves have dropped 6 straight
They just need to play the Reds more :)
Quoteand they start playing the Cards tonight. So something has to give.
Harang is pitching for the Braves tonight and he's been pretty decent. Cardinals bats will probably stay dormant.
QuoteI think I'm going to the game on Wed.
If the Cardinals win one game, that should be it. Wainwright is pitching :D
Bleh. Indians have had a terrible April and had a brutal blown save yesterday. I'm hoping they turn things around for Wednesday's and Thursday's games when I travel out there. I found tickets on stubhub, three rows from the field right next to the Tribe dugout for $24 a piece for both games. I'm super pumped. :cheers:
Wow, I can see why they ruled that a hit but Chipper would have made that play easily.
We are fucked, gg speiss. We probably won't score 5 runs the whole series. :(
Quote from: alfred russel on May 05, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
We are fucked, gg speiss. We probably won't score 5 runs the whole series. :(
Hope you didn't turn off the game :wacko:
It has my attention. :hmm:
Outstanding. I bet the Braves are looking for another Upton out there somewhere. Maximum Upton forever.
A question for folks who watch games on the MLB.tv media player. Last year you could watch the video broadcast while listening to the radio audio. Am I missing something, or have they removed that option this year? It seems you can only watch the video or listen to the radio now. :(
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 08, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
A question for folks who watch games on the MLB.tv media player. Last year you could watch the video broadcast while listening to the radio audio. Am I missing something, or have they removed that option this year? It seems you can only watch the video or listen to the radio now. :(
No idea. I barely ever used the PC media player even when I had it last year. Watched everything on Xbox or my phone. Starting to sort of miss it.
Looks like BA is getting a good game so far. Cleveland up 4-0 in the bottom of the 5th and threatening to put more on the board. My Cleveland native co-worker is streaming the game.
Quote from: derspiess on May 08, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
Looks like BA is getting a good game so far. Cleveland up 4-0 in the bottom of the 5th and threatening to put more on the board. My Cleveland native co-worker is streaming the game.
Both were great games. I love going out there, I just wish my schedule allowed for more visitations.
Getting tired of having to celebrate the Cards avoiding a sweep :mellow:
On the other hand, I got to see two freaks of nature at work today. Billy Hamilton bunted a lead-off single that landed him on third after a bad throw. Then he turned around and got probably the fastest stand-up triple I've ever seen. Then Aroldis Chapman made a flat-out awesome comeback in his first appearance since that gruesome pre-season injury. Consistently threw 100+. I'm not a Reds fan but you couldn't help but feel good for them after that outing.
Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2014, 11:34:12 PM
Getting tired of having to celebrate the Cards avoiding a sweep :mellow:
On the other hand, I got to see two freaks of nature at work today. Billy Hamilton bunted a lead-off single that landed him on third after a bad throw. Then he turned around and got probably the fastest stand-up triple I've ever seen. Then Aroldis Chapman made a flat-out awesome comeback in his first appearance since that gruesome pre-season injury. Consistently threw 100+. I'm not a Reds fan but you couldn't help but feel good for them after that outing.
time to be like your dad and root for Giants then. :P
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 09, 2014, 04:32:50 PM
Both were great games. I love going out there, I just wish my schedule allowed for more visitations.
Just as importantly, how did your beer shopping go?
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2014, 04:38:19 AM
time to be like your dad and root for Giants then. :P
Without Brian Wilson, they're just not as fun.
Quote from: derspiess on May 12, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 09, 2014, 04:32:50 PM
Both were great games. I love going out there, I just wish my schedule allowed for more visitations.
Just as importantly, how did your beer shopping go?
I had a blast. Dropped just under two bills. The only major disappointment was the lack of 3 Floyds of any variety in bottles that I could find. One place some on draught for filling growlers, but I didn't want to chance it on a six-ish hour ride home in the car. It just gives me more reason to go back at some point. Hopefully I can manage to fit one in with the days off that I earn at my NPS job giving me a few days off and assigning some of my underlings to work an extra shift or two at the bar where I run the security. Failing that, I'll be praying to Hod even more desperately for a playoff run.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 13, 2014, 01:11:47 AM
One place some on draught for filling growlers, but I didn't want to chance it on a six-ish hour ride home in the car.
When we went to St. Louis last year, I brought a cooler expressly for the purpose of bringing a couple growlers back from the Schlafly tap room. It was going to be another 24+ hours before we would get home and I had to fill it with ice twice. The entire drive home I was paranoid about the growlers surviving the trip. Felt like I was transporting plutonium or something :D
I had a couple of growlers yesterday that I dropped into the can.
Cardinals win a series! Granted, it was against the Cubs but it technically counts.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 08, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
A question for folks who watch games on the MLB.tv media player. Last year you could watch the video broadcast while listening to the radio audio. Am I missing something, or have they removed that option this year? It seems you can only watch the video or listen to the radio now. :(
Damn. I wish I'd seen this before I dropped the coin on the season pass. I loved mixing the Indians radio with the video. Such a great combo. I tried finding it myself and failed to do so. Hopefully they bring it back.
Since it is about to come to an end I thought I would gaze on this lovingly once last time:
East W L PCT GB E# WCGB STRK
Baltimore 21 18 0.538 - - - W1
NY Yankees 21 19 0.525 0.5 123 - W2
Toronto 21 21 0.5 1.5 121 1 W1
Boston 20 20 0.5 1.5 122 1 L1
Tampa Bay 18 24 0.429 4.5 118 4 L1
As you can see their magic number is only 123.
Huh for some reason when I post it the columns get all messed up. Ah well you get the idea.
I can't help but wonder how Billy Martin would have handled this...
QuoteBaseball player with multi-million-dollar contract bitten in the ear
(CNN) -- A professional baseball player landed in a hospital after a game this week with a bite wound to the ear, police said.
Alex Guerrero, second-baseman for the Albuquerque Isotopes, could be seen quarreling on the field with his teammate, catcher Miguel Olivo, during a game against the Salt Lake Bees on Tuesday.
Video posted to MiLB.com showed teammates stepping between the two, as they taunted each other.
The site, which bears the title "the official site of minor league baseball," reported that not much later, in the eighth inning, the two fought in the team's dugout.
The Triple-A game was temporarily suspended and both players were replaced by substitutes.
The injured player was transported to a hospital in Murray, Utah, said Salt Lake Police detective Greg Wilking. Authorities there told Wilking that "an ear had been bitten off."
Guerrero declined to file a report with law officers.
"He wanted to talk to a lawyer and the league before he decides what he wants to do," Wilking said.
The Isotopes, who lost to the Bees 7-4, got behind early in the game, allowing Salt Lake 4 runs in the first inning. Both teams have losing records.
Olivo became angry and confronted Guerrero on the field in the seventh inning, after the second-basemen did not tag a player out when Olivo threw the ball to him, MiLB.com reported.
The Isotopes are a farm team of the Los Angeles Dodgers, which issued a statement on the incident.
"The baseball operations department is aware of the altercation and is conducting an investigation into the matter. The organization does not condone this type of behavior," it said.
Both men also play in games for the Dodgers in the majors. Guerrero, who defected from Cuba in 2013 signed a four-year $28 million contract with the club.
Mike Tyson, though, was A-Okay with it. :thumbsup:
Cardinals beat the Yankees. Not too many times in my lifetime I've been able to say that. Also, very happy to say I was wrong about Lance Lynn in his spot in the Cards pitching rotation.
Quote from: derspiess on May 27, 2014, 11:43:41 PM
Cardinals beat the Yankees. Not too many times in my lifetime I've been able to say that. Also, very happy to say I was wrong about Lance Lynn in his spot in the Cards pitching rotation.
It happened a few times during grumbler's lifetime
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Reds are shitty.
Freaking Blue Jays.
Man I haven't said that in a long time.
Valmy, you catch the Horns - Owls game? 2-0 in the regionals now. Rice was butthurt and didn't want to shake hands.
I somehow ended up watching pretty much the entire A's-Yankees game tonight just because there wasn't anything else on. Moss cranked one into the upper deck for the 10th inning go-ahead run and now the score is 5-2 with the bases loaded. Looks like the only ones left in the stadium are A's fans.
And the Cardinals are pissing me off. For the longest time pitching was good enough to win but batting was anemic. In the past week or so they've gotten more runs but pitching has fallen apart. They just lost their third straight series and are just one game over .500 :mellow:
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2014, 08:52:10 AM
Freaking Blue Jays.
Man I haven't said that in a long time.
lol. They'll crash and burn soon. It's a Toronto tradition. All teams. Though I did go to a game last week and it was fun. Company thing. I've seen three games live, and always a part of a work thing.
The Tribe is inching their way back to .500 and second place in the Central! I love following a team that is still in contention in June.
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2014, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2014, 08:52:10 AM
Freaking Blue Jays.
Man I haven't said that in a long time.
lol. They'll crash and burn soon. It's a Toronto tradition. All teams. Though I did go to a game last week and it was fun. Company thing. I've seen three games live, and always a part of a work thing.
I will be mightly pissed if this is not a competitive year. Opportunities like this year dont come around too often...
And I haven't caught a home run ball yet from my perch above the Jays bullpen yet.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 01, 2014, 01:42:36 AM
Valmy, you catch the Horns - Owls game? 2-0 in the regionals now. Rice was butthurt and didn't want to shake hands.
I watched every inning of every game in the regional and have tickets to all the Super Regional games this weekend.
The Aggies and Owls were so butthurt and now the Cougar High crowd has already started whining about not hosting the Supers. God the other Texas schools are such a bunch of whiny bitches. Cannot wait to play somebody from out of state again. On the positive side 4 Big 12 Schools in the Supers. Makes me feel a bit better about Texas finishing 5th in the conference.
You lie! You cannot attend so many games. Or have you not seen your family in weeks?
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2014, 11:29:09 AM
You lie! You cannot attend so many games. Or have you not seen your family in weeks?
Fine. All the games in the Austin Super Regional :bash:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 01, 2014, 01:42:36 AM
Valmy, you catch the Horns - Owls game? 2-0 in the regionals now. Rice was butthurt and didn't want to shake hands.
I thoroughly enjoyed being brutally sunburnt between homeplate and the home dugout. That was a shockingly easy Super, Augie has these guys playing elite level baseball.
Oh and you posted below my post on the Super thread on Shaggybevo.
Quote from: Valmy on June 08, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
Oh and you posted below my post on the Super thread on Shaggybevo.
Man, I still can't figure out why the pitchout is apparently something Doug Glanville is seeing for the first time today.
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Here we go MBM :punk:
Seems like a bad move to centre your poster with two constipated pitchers
Lonnie Chisenhall having a hell of a night. 5-5 so far with 3 hr, a single, and double. 9 rbi. I'm hoping he somehow manages to tack on a triple with an rbi. :)
Quote from: HVC on June 09, 2014, 10:20:55 PM
Seems like a bad move to centre your poster with two constipated pitchers
It's called intensity and competitiveness :angry:
Hey MBM here are the guys on the way to Omaha, they arrived there yesterday morning. Can't wait for tomorrow :cool: :punk:
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That loss on Saturday was a perfect encapsulation of this season :P Still have hopes they can mount a run.
In other baseball news Tony Gwynn died this morning :(
RIP to the one of my all time favorites.
Damn, that sucks. Didn't realize he was sick.
I totally forgot about the game on Saturday. Like...I didn't remember it was even going on right up until I read your post, Val. :blush:
Knew he was sick - thought he had already passed on. :Embarrass:
My favorite Tony Gwinn stat: averaged over his entire career he had 21.4 at bats for every strikeout.
Since he retired, no player has reached that rate in a single season.'
Last year the league leaders were at 14.9 and 9.8.
Unless there are big changes to game there will literally never be another like him.
Gwyn was so awesome. He was such a nice guy. :(
So many amazing stats
QuoteSo here are 19 incredible facts about No. 19, Mr. Padre, the illustrious Tony Gwynn:
• Gwynn's rookie season, in which he played in 54 games, is the only year of his career that he didn't hit .300. He hit .289. His 19 consecutive .300 seasons are second to only Ty Cobb, who had 23.
• Gwynn's career .338 batting average is of a different era. As Yahoo Sports' Jeff Passan notes, every other hitter with an average of .338 or above started his career before 1940.
• From 1995, the year he turned 35, to 2001, the final year of his career, Gwynn hit .350, with 937 hits. He never stopped being productive at the plate.
• For his career batting average to slip below .300, Gwynn would have needed to add 1,183 hitless at-bats to his total — roughly the equivalent of two full seasons. (Via @AceballStats)
• Of the 12 top batting seasons since the expansion era began in 1961, Gwynn owns four of them. Those are: .368 in 1995, .370 in 1987, .372 in 1997 and .394 in the strike-shortened 1994 season. (via Baseball Reference)
• In 1994, Jeff Bagwell hit .368, the 13th best season since 1961, but didn't even win the NL batting title because Gwynn was nearly 30 points better.
• Gwynn had nine five-hit games in his career. Only Pete Rose had more, with 10. Gwynn also had 45 games with at least four hits. That puts him 10th on the all-time list.
• In 2,440 career games, Gwynn had only 34 multi-strikeout games. So, the odds were better that Gwynn would get four hits than striking out twice. Let that sink in.
• Gwynn's 434 career strikeouts are an amazing mark for a player who had 10,232 career plate appearances. Paul Waner is the only member of the 3,000 hit club to do better. He struck out 376 times in 10,766 plate appearances from 1926-1945.
• For comparison's sake: Adam Dunn has struck out 486 times since the start of 2012. Mark Reynolds struck out exactly 434 times in 2009 and 2010.
• In 1995, Gwynn struck out only 15 times in 535 at-bats. That's insane. As Aceball Stats points out, 27 current MLB players have already struck out than more than 15 times in June.
• Eleven times in his career Gwynn managed to not strikeout for 20 consecutive games. The longest streak, 34 games, came in 1995.
• Only once in his career did Gwynn have a three-stikeout game. Eerily, it came against Bob Welch on April 14, 1986. Welch died last week at age 57. That was quite a game. Welch pitched 9 2/3 innings, striking out 12, but the Padres won 4-3. Gwynn had a hit earlier in the game, then reached on an error in the 10th inning and scored to tie the game at 3. The next inning, the Padres won on a walk-off homer.
• More on Gwynn's lack of strikeouts: He faced some great pitchers, but even the cream of the crop had trouble getting him out. Neither Pedro Martinez nor Greg Maddux ever struck him out. Maddux faced Gwynn 107 times and Gwynn hit .415 off Maddux.
• As Yahoo Sports' Eric Edholm dug up: Gwynn had 323 career at-bats against Maddux, Martinez, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz and struck out only three times. Glavine got him twice. Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe notes that Curt Schilling managed to strike out Gwynn twice in 43 at-bats.
• Gwynn never hit for .400 in one season, though he came close to matching Ted Williams. In that strike-shortened 1994 season, Gwynn finished at .394 through 110 games. He was hitting .423 in the second half of the season, so it was very much a possibility.
• Gwynn did top .400 for a 179-game span between July 3, 1993 and May 9, 1995. He hit .403 in 697 at-bats.
• In two-strike counts, Gwynn hit .302. That's a statistic that's only been measured since 1988, and since then, Gwynn's mark is easily the best. Wade Boggs, next on the list, hit .260 in two-strike counts. (Via @Castrovince)
• From 1984-1999, there was only one season that Tony Gwynn wasn't named an All-Star. That was 1988. But he won the NL batting title that year, hitting .313, so he got the last laugh.
No one has ever hit over .400 while striking out more than 50 times; most .400 hitters struck out less than 40. Which is basically impossible in the modern game. That is why we haven't seen a .400 hitter in the modern era and are unlikely to see one again soon - along with extraordinary skill you need a certain amount of "hit luck" and that requires balls be put into play. Gwynn came the closest because he was such a throwback but there is no one like him on the horizon. Mauer was probably the closest but his K rate is still a lot higher.
1994 was such an amazing baseball season. Just tragic that was the one that had to be wiped out.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:37:20 PM
I totally forgot about the game on Saturday. Like...I didn't remember it was even going on right up until I read your post, Val. :blush:
Texas is playing a big game tonight you might want to tune in ;)
Since we were posting awkward local car commercials on the other thread, I figured I would grace you fellas with this gem from Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj0bqA0Quhg
So the Cards are facing Bartolo Colon today. I was checking his stats for the hell of it & realized he was born 3 months before me. Glad there's still an active MLB player older than I am.
1-0 W last night. :punk: Apparently a score that low hasn't happened at the CWS since 1985. Also a home run hasn't happened at that ballpark for a while either.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 19, 2014, 07:01:53 AM
1-0 W last night. :punk: Apparently a score that low hasn't happened at the CWS since 1985. Also a home run hasn't happened at that ballpark for a while either.
That game was awesome. FINAL FOUR BABY! :punk: Augie looks about ten years younger in the CWS I have to say. :hmm:
Now Vanderbilt, as the great Ernie Banks said, lets play two.
Quote from: Valmy on June 18, 2014, 08:28:03 AM
1994 was such an amazing baseball season. Just tragic that was the one that had to be wiped out.
:weep:
The poor Expos. Their first great team derailed by the 1981 stoppage and then again in 1994. Of course it gave MLB a chance to steal millions from the idiots who run Washington DC so I guess that makes Selig happy.
Not MLB, but Little League.
Final game of Jakes regular season last night. His team was 8-3-1, and 2 of those losses were against the Webster team, who was 3-9. But they beat the #1 team twice, when most of our players were not able to go to the game, so they thought they could do it again.
End of the 7th, score is 6-3 Penfield. We get their first two batters out, the second on a called strike that, well, it looked pretty far off the plate.
Next batter gets hit by the first pitch, goes to first.
Steals second.
Steals third, on a play that most of us thought he was out on.
Next batter hits a nice shot through the gap, gets to first.
Steals second.
The Webster parents are going nuts. Tying run at the plate.
Called strike, outside.
Ball
Ball
Foul
Ball
Foul
Crack!
Kid hits a perfect fly ball right into shallow center field, no way our center fields can get to it before it drops.
Webster is screaming like crazy, runners are coming home. Patrick, our center fields races in, take the ball off the bounce, turns and RIFLES it to first. OUT!
You never heard so much cheering go quiet at once. Like a switch was pulled or something.
It was an amazing throw for a 14 year old to make. I could not believe it.
Great story Berkut. That is what makes sports awesome.
And all levels of Baseball are welcome here, MBM and I have been talking College Ball after all.
I went to a Rockland Boulders game (independent minors) last weekend - there were playing a team from Trois-Riveres of all places.
Nice stadium and terrific seats for a song. Ballpark food was pretty good too.
Plus one of the few places in Rockland County to see a giant Canadian flag flying overhead.
Gunning someone out at first off a bounce from center field is pretty badass.
Aw shit, Olbermann's going all jihad on tobacco in baseball. Just when I was getting all warm & fuzzy on his baseball analysis.
Quote from: derspiess on June 18, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
So the Cards are facing Bartolo Colon today. I was checking his stats for the hell of it & realized he was born 3 months before me. Glad there's still an active MLB player older than I am.
There hasn't been a player older than me in the majors since Julio Franco in 2007.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
Aw shit, Olbermann's going all jihad on tobacco in baseball. Just when I was getting all warm & fuzzy on his baseball analysis.
It's like Limbaugh on sports. He just cannot help himself.
Well it is more like Bob Costas. We love you as a sports commentator but stop with the moralizing already.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
Aw shit, Olbermann's going all jihad on tobacco in baseball. Just when I was getting all warm & fuzzy on his baseball analysis.
I love all the hate on tobacco as a setting a bad health example, yet guys like Jonathan Braxton and CC Sabathia can be as porky as they wanna be.
Stop fat shaming.
:punk: Nice win for the Horns today.
Hi Vanderbilt what's happening
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Man this game is brutal. All fingernails bit off now.
2-2 in the fourth and we are approaching two hours :bleeding:
Glad I am not a Vandy fan they play slow as hell I hate that.
Man it is getting to the point I am almost getting physically ill this game is so intense. Bottom of the 9th tied at 3...John Curtis coming in with one down and a runner on first. Hope we can get another chance.
Extra innings. Holy shit. Come on Texas FINISH THEM!
Welp. Good season.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 21, 2014, 11:39:24 PM
Welp. Good season.
Yep. Hell of a game and hell of a season. Hopefully they hit better with runners in scoring position next season. I feel like they made progress, last year they couldn't hit for shit. This season they could hit well enough to get everybody on base and leave them there.
Next year someone needs to specifically make a Pro Baseball thread. :rolleyes:
Quote from: sbr on June 21, 2014, 11:55:15 PM
Next year someone needs to specifically make a Pro Baseball thread. :rolleyes:
Wow what an asshole. Congrats dude it takes a lot to look douche around here.
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: sbr on June 21, 2014, 11:55:15 PM
Next year someone needs to specifically make a Pro Baseball thread. :rolleyes:
Wow what an asshole. Congrats dude it takes a lot to look douche around here.
:hmm:
I'm pretty sure this is one of the quickest escalations from sarcastic comment to "ERMYGERD MY BUTT HURTS" in the 5 years I have been here.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
Aw shit, Olbermann's going all jihad on tobacco in baseball. Just when I was getting all warm & fuzzy on his baseball analysis.
Chewing tobacco's disgusting.
Quote from: sbr on June 21, 2014, 11:55:15 PM
Next year someone needs to specifically make a Pro Baseball thread. :rolleyes:
That would be like having a movie thread and expecting people not to talk about tv shows.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2014, 03:32:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
Aw shit, Olbermann's going all jihad on tobacco in baseball. Just when I was getting all warm & fuzzy on his baseball analysis.
Chewing tobacco's disgusting.
Yeah, but I don't think it's something that MLB needs to make rules about.
Bragging time:
Jake's team made Little League Districts, doing a best of 5 series against another local club.
Jake started on the mound for game 1, pitched a complete game. Threw 76 pitches, 17 balls, 59 strikes, 7 K's.
Went 3/3 at the plate.
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I assume that's your kid's team. If so grats! :cheers:
EDIT: Is that an appropriate smilie for a Little League Championship?
Quote from: Berkut on July 04, 2014, 08:43:35 AM
Jake started on the mound for game 1, pitched a complete game. Threw 76 pitches, 17 balls, 59 strikes, 7 K's.
Went 3/3 at the plate.
Woah your kid is a badass. :cheers: He would have pitched 6% better if you were gay though.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2014, 03:45:48 PM
Woah your kid is a badass. :cheers: He would have pitched 6% if you were gay though.
:lol: Needs more cohesion.
I really wish Peter Angelos was as much of an drop-down alcoholic prone to irrational outbursts like Robert Irsay was. That way, watching it all go down the drain would at least have some comic relief.
Well HVC was right, the Blue Jays have imploded. Just like Greg Zanon predicted.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 08, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
I really wish Peter Angelos was as much of an drop-down alcoholic prone to irrational outbursts like Robert Irsay was. That way, watching it all go down the drain would at least have some comic relief.
And here I was all excited the Orioles had a 6 run inning to beat the Nats and were in first place. Oakland is quaking in their cleats!
Hey, the Cardinals got a rare walk-off win vs. the Pirates. Guess I went to bed too early.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 08:53:24 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 08, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
I really wish Peter Angelos was as much of an drop-down alcoholic prone to irrational outbursts like Robert Irsay was. That way, watching it all go down the drain would at least have some comic relief.
And here I was all excited the Orioles had a 6 run inning to beat the Nats and were in first place. Oakland is quaking in their cleats!
Enjoy Matt Wieters, Adam Jones and Chris Davis in Orioles uniforms while it lasts, because they are off to go play for a team with a front office interested in winning the moment they're free agents.
Just because they're the lead boxcar in that train wreck of a division doesn't mean shit. You have to pay for starting pitching in this league, not bet it on a wing and a prayer and letting the Jake Arrietas go.
My Cardinals will take Jones off their hands. Could use his bat.
AL East is the worst it had ever been in its entire history. By a good margin.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 08, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
Enjoy Matt Wieters, Adam Jones and Chris Davis in Orioles uniforms while it lasts, because they are off to go play for a team with a front office interested in winning the moment they're free agents.
Just because they're the lead boxcar in that train wreck of a division doesn't mean shit. You have to pay for starting pitching in this league, not bet it on a wing and a prayer and letting the Jake Arrietas go.
It means they have a chance to win an AL East Championship. That thing the Birds have won only once since 1983. That means a great deal of shit. And I am trying to enjoy it but your moping is ruining it :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 08, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
You have to pay for starting pitching in this league, not bet it on a wing and a prayer and letting the Jake Arrietas go.
The screwed up thing is that they didn't just let him go. They actually paid the Cubs cash in the deal.
I hope somebody beats Lackey's face in.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 08, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
AL East is the worst it had ever been in its entire history. By a good margin.
Red Sox are 12 games below .500, and that's all that really matters.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 08, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
I hope somebody beats Lackey's face in.
I've seen his face; always assumed that already happened a bunch of times.
Reds lost in 12 innings, and the Brewers are about to lose to the Phillies which will put them just 1.5 games ahead of the Cardinals. So if the Cardinals can complete a 4-game sweep of the Pirates tonight at home, that will put them just--
FUCK FUCK FUCK Yadi out 8-12 weeks with a thumb injury :ultra:
I'm going to a Cardinals game next month! :)
Quote from: Razgovory on July 18, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
I'm going to a Cardinals game next month! :)
Which one?
Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 18, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
I'm going to a Cardinals game next month! :)
Which one?
Cards-Reds game on the 19th. Got free tickets from my bank.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 18, 2014, 10:16:03 AM
Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 18, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
I'm going to a Cardinals game next month! :)
Which one?
Cards-Reds game on the 19th. Got free tickets from my bank.
A group of us here (i.e., several Reds fans and me) were going to try to do a road trip for that series, but it fell apart when each of us had other plans pop up. I'm going to be in Tennessee around that time :(
Nice win last night eh Seedy? :cool:
Enjoy Adam Jones while you can. He'll be a Yankee or a BoSox soon enough.
Goddamned Reds. They had one job to do last night: beat the Brewers and put the Cards in sole possession of first place. I figured with Latos pitching and the Brewers in a slump they had a decent chance. And they might have had their fielding not gone completely to shit.
And since I mentioned the Cardinals, they will probably lose tonight. I swear the last 5 or 6 times I posted about them, they lost their next game.
Well, the Pirates managed to get caught in a double play on a walk.
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2014-07-30/pirates-double-play-walk-giants-base-running-error-pittsburgh-san-francisco-tootblan?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain
:lmfao: :bleeding:
Great win last night but Toronto is making me nervous again :ph34r:
Quote from: Syt on July 30, 2014, 11:22:36 PM
Well, the Pirates managed to get caught in a double play on a walk.
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2014-07-30/pirates-double-play-walk-giants-base-running-error-pittsburgh-san-francisco-tootblan?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain
:lmfao: :bleeding:
The guy on second base went to sleep. Not exactly unheard of but still :lol:
QuoteBaseball is made up of all sorts of inane rules and idiosyncrasies. It is a game full of remarkably irrelevant stats and procedures.
The Sporting News is full of so many A-Hole writers. I mean WTF?
'Football is a barbaric sport full of concussions. It is a game full of exploitation, drugs, and violence against women. So anyway about that Cardinals-Rams game...'
I don't know Valmy, the Sporting News might have a point. I had dinner with Ryan Howard last night, and he shared the idea that stats like batting average and on base percentage are irrelevant.
Also, he made a compelling case that some of the rules. For example, how is it fair that you need four balls for a walk but only three to strikeout? Seems like it could be part of a pro pitcher bias.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 31, 2014, 03:03:36 PM
I don't know Valmy, the Sporting News might have a point. I had dinner with Ryan Howard last night, and he shared the idea that stats like batting average and on base percentage are irrelevant.
Also, he made a compelling case that some of the rules. For example, how is it fair that you need four balls for a walk but only three to strikeout? Seems like it could be part of a pro pitcher bias.
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on July 31, 2014, 08:24:48 AM
Great win last night but Toronto is making me nervous again :ph34r:
It's Dem O's that should be making you nervous.
Markakis homers and the O's lead 1-0. I have a feeling the losing streak ends today!
I am not worried about Dem O's. They went out and got Jon Lester which should really help them get to the...oh that was Oakland? Damn. But surely they picked up David Price right? They are ready for that pennant race it is in the...oh that was the Tigers? Damn. Well they got somebody right? Right?
Edit: Birds win 1-0!
Quote from: Valmy on August 03, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
I am not worried about Dem O's. They went out and got Jon Lester which should really help them get to the...oh that was Oakland? Damn. But surely they picked up David Price right? They are ready for that pennant race it is in the...oh that was the Tigers? Damn. Well they got somebody right? Right?
Aces cost money. Much easier to use up the promising farm arms and wait until next season for all the stars to get lucrative free agent contracts elsewhere.
Why bother spending money to win when you're getting free money from the cable network you share with the Nationals? Let the Nationals win for you! PROFIT
QuoteBirds win 1-0!
Shame to see all that young talent going to waste.
It's official - at the trade deadline with the Royals 1.5 games back of the wildcard, and 5 games back in the AL Central, for the first time in almost 30 years I am paying attention to the Royals again.
Cue a horrendous losing streak in 5, 4, 3...
The Braves big move before the trade deadline of kicking Dan Uggla off the team by all reasonable measures should have made the team much more competitive, but a 6 game losing streak is indicating otherwise. And fucking up the season.
David Price throwing for a team not called the Rays on MLB Network right now. Looks weird. Just smoked Teixeira.
Still in there in the 9th. Didn't smoke everyone though. :)
EDIT: and now Joba comes in ... for the other side.
So McCutchen may be out for a month with a fractured rib. :pinch:
Quote from: Syt on August 05, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
So McCutchen may be out for a month with a fractured rib. :pinch:
He's lucky if it's just a month.
Dunno how this sneaked up on me, but I just realized Trevor Rosenthal has 35 saves already this year.
And in the weird to see the guy in another uniform category, the Cards will have to face Joe Kelly tonight, whom they had traded a few short days ago to the Red Sox.
And since I posted about the Cardinals, I've jinxed them again and they will lose tonight.
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Great win last night but Toronto is making me nervous again :ph34r:
It's Dem O's that should be making you nervous.
They have a 5 game lead & have been doing well, while Toronto has continued to slide. Be happy. Live in the now.
Seedy is really making me nervous I have to say. It seems like if they do not win the East this year they will not have the chance for awhile.
I wish the Braves had waited a few more weeks to go on a seven game losing streak and kamikaze their playoff chances, as football season would have kept me from noticing.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 06, 2014, 11:08:10 AM
I wish the Braves had waited a few more weeks to go on a seven game losing streak and kamikaze their playoff chances, as football season would have kept me from noticing.
Everyone in Cincy has already switched to football. Bengals practices seem to be drawing more people than Reds games.
Funny thing is the Reds are a game above .500 and only 5 games out of the division lead and 4 games out of a wild card spot. They could make a run in August and/or September and at least make it close. They probably won't, but you never know when one player is going to hit a hot streak an carry the team for a few games.
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2014, 11:05:21 AM
Seedy is really making me nervous I have to say. It seems like if they do not win the East this year they will not have the chance for awhile.
That's because they won't. Hell, they would have no business being in 1st if this whole division wasn't such a historical trainwreck all at once; they were lucky to survive their great-pitching-no-bats April and the all-power-no-pitching of late May and early June.
They can be dangerous, if they don't peak too early and if they keep the pitching and hitting together.
It is only due to the awesome coaching power of a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Buck Showalter that they're getting career numbers out of role players.
Fun fact I learned during the Os-Nationals series: they both lead their respective leagues in team HRs, yet neither has a hitter over .300 for the season. I find that both interesting and completely unnerving.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
Fun fact I learned during the Os-Nationals series: they both lead their respective leagues in team HRs, yet neither has a hitter over .300 for the season. I find that both interesting and completely unnerving.
Cards are dead last in the NL in HRs and second to last in Runs scored. Now that is unnerving.
Delmon Young of all people is over .300, though not enough AB to qualify.
Also Manny Machado's monthly splits (OPS):
May - .556
June - .774
July - .921
August (to date) - .958
Nice progression.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2014, 04:29:24 PM
Delmon Young of all people is over .300, though not enough AB to qualify.
I really think he's in Buck's doghouse for some reason. I don't understand why he doesn't see more action on a regular basis, all he does is produce.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
Also Manny Machado's monthly splits (OPS):
May - .556
June - .774
July - .921
August (to date) - .958
Nice progression.
Yeah, and with some of his diamond gems he's turned in with the glove recently, I think he's shaken off both his injury and ARod.
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Delmon Young of all people is over .300, though not enough AB to qualify.
I really think he's in Buck's doghouse for some reason. I don't understand why he doesn't see more action on a regular basis, all he does is produce.
He's a butcher in the field, so how do you get him and Cruz in the lineup at the same time.
For a DH his power is so-so, he doesn't walk that much, so he really has to keep well above .300 to justify being in the lineup. Plus he has a rep as a head case.
My guess is that Showalter is picking his spots carefully which is part of why he seems to be having an up year. There is no left-right platoon differential though.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2014, 06:09:34 PM
ARod.
It's part of the new competitive balance of the AL East; it's not fair for the Yankees to bear the full brunt of ARod's poison, so the front runner has to share some.
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I thought this was interesting; every batter except in Houston and Toronto face east to some degree (and in those exceptions they're just barely west.)
By facing almost due south the batters in Comerica Park are facing Canada; bring your glove if you're visiting Windsor. :Canuck:
Baltimore is totally dominating the battles of the birds 4 wins and 1 loss with just one game to go :cool:
Yeah, I used to like the Cards, but I hear about them non-stop from my brother-in-law, so fuck 'em.
They all went to the game last night. At least the girls are O's fans.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 09, 2014, 05:49:02 PM
I thought this was interesting; every batter except in Houston and Toronto face east to some degree (and in those exceptions they're just barely west.)
By facing almost due south the batters in Comerica Park are facing Canada; bring your glove if you're visiting Windsor. :Canuck:
Imagine future archeologists trying to explain ballpark alignment. "The alignment of the batter was to the east, which likely had a religious significance. The homerun would be hit into the east, perhaps symbolizing the conquest of death. The strikeout occurred with the ball being caught in the west, and was the ritualized death of the batter.
There were outliers. Toronto was to the west, but Toronto was not a part of America and likely had its own religious traditions. Detroit was more to the south than most stadiums, but here we must understand that both the pitcher and the hitter were oriented to face Canada. In the destitute and cursed city of Detroit, perhaps the orientation was situated so that everyone would be facing a new land full of all the hope that was absent in their own."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 10, 2014, 10:47:41 AM
Yeah, I used to like the Cards, but I hear about them non-stop from my brother-in-law, so fuck 'em.
They all went to the game last night. At least the girls are O's fans.
Ugly series. Glad the Cards at least avoided a sweep.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/sports/best-beer-in-baseball/
Local Cincy breweries getting a mention :punk:
Now if they'd just consistently clean their tap lines at the ballpark we'd be set <_<
Hot damn - Royals are going on a serious tear and are a half game back of Detroit for the AL Central.
It's a shame though that you can't even listen to MLB games on the internet for free. :(
McCutchen finally went to the DL and Manny Machado left tonight's game with what appears to be a serious injury to the knee he didn't blow out last year.
So not cool. Not now.
Quote from: Barrister on August 11, 2014, 01:04:48 PM
Hot damn - Royals are going on a serious tear and are a half game back of Detroit for the AL Central.
It's a shame though that you can't even listen to MLB games on the internet for free. :(
With KC winning, and Detroit losing, the Royals are at the moment your leaders in the AL Central. :cool:
I know they won't make it, but I don't care. The Royals are playing meaningful baseball for the first time in my adult life that I can remember. :thumbsup:
Good news: ligament sprain.
Bad news: looks like the 15 day DL.
More bad news: J.J. Hardy has a left thumb sprain and hasn't played in almost a week. That's the entire Golden Glove left side of the infield on the shelf.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 10, 2014, 10:47:41 AM
Yeah, I used to like the Cards, but I hear about them non-stop from my brother-in-law, so fuck 'em.
They all went to the game last night. At least the girls are O's fans.
Ugly series. Glad the Cards at least avoided a sweep.
That was a fucking disaster. Not like they are doing much better in Miami.
The Braves are on a 2-11 run. Is Dr. Kevorkian still around to euthanize a baseball team?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 12, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
Good news: ligament sprain.
Bad news: looks like the 15 day DL.
More bad news: J.J. Hardy has a left thumb sprain and hasn't played in almost a week. That's the entire Golden Glove left side of the infield on the shelf.
Bullet: dodged.
Good news: last night's game was rained out.
Showalter will see them through.
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Quote from: Barrister on August 11, 2014, 01:04:48 PM
Hot damn - Royals are going on a serious tear and are a half game back of Detroit for the AL Central.
It's a shame though that you can't even listen to MLB games on the internet for free. :(
With KC winning, and Detroit losing, the Royals are at the moment your leaders in the AL Central. :cool:
I know they won't make it, but I don't care. The Royals are playing meaningful baseball for the first time in my adult life that I can remember. :thumbsup:
Royals just keep on winning. They're 15-3 in the month of August so far, and are now two games up on Detroit in the Central. :cool:
Too bad they have no remaining games against the Blue Jays, so it's unlikely I'll be able to watch any of their games. :(
The Orioles are A TEAM OF DESTINY!
They are DESTROYING the AL East. THEY ARE THE 1927 YANKEES REBORN!
Ok maybe not. But still look at how they are running away with this thing.
It's more like the rest of the East is running away from this thing.
But the secret of the Orioles is that other than Schoop and the tough year from Davis, they have no real weaknesses anywhere, and O'Day/Britton delivers a devastating 1-2 punch from the bullpen.
They have a weakness. It's starting pitching that can't get to the 5th inning. But they're clicking now.
Orioles are at 5.9 IP per start which is exactly the league average.
Was at the Cards game last night. Had a lot of fun. Cardinals won. They came into 9th Inning tied and got one single, two walks and then with the bases loaded the pitcher hit the batter on the foot.
Raz tip: If you are going to hit the batter with the pitch, try aiming for the knees. Those take a while to heal. Also it's harder to run around the bases with a broken knee.
The Angels pitcher (Garrett Richards) just...I don't know what really happened, but he was in some serious pain. Like he broke his leg or completely trashed his knee or something.
E: He was running to cover first for a double play and his spikes seem to have gotten caught or something.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 20, 2014, 05:16:43 PM
Orioles are at 5.9 IP per start which is exactly the league average.
LIES
Quote from: Razgovory on August 20, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
Was at the Cards game last night. Had a lot of fun. Cardinals won. They came into 9th Inning tied and got one single, two walks and then with the bases loaded the pitcher hit the batter on the foot.
That was pretty damned awesome. We got home late Tuesday evening from our trip and it was the 9th inning by the time I got unpacked and had the kids in bed. Cardinals could not buy a walk-off win last year or the year before, but they have them in spades this year.
QuoteRaz tip: If you are going to hit the batter with the pitch, try aiming for the knees. Those take a while to heal. Also it's harder to run around the bases with a broken knee.
God only knows where Hoover was aiming with that pitch. He's been absolutely terrible this year. One might even say he sucks.
NL Central playoff picture is has gotten less fuzzy. Reds are done, and the Pirates have been pretty crappy since McCutchen went on the DL and will need to make up for lost time when he gets back. I'm predicting the Brewers will finish the season with a 1-2 game lead over the Cards, who in turn will need to play that silly one-game wild card playoff.
Manny Machado is going to have surgery next week and "likely done for the season."
Quote from: sbr on August 22, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
Manny Machado is going to have surgery next week and "likely done for the season."
Yep. Going to have to do it without him.
Speaking of which
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Magic Number is: 23
Pirates still in the race, but I don't get excited. The Bucs are fluent in 6 million ways to choke.
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Magic Number is:
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RIP Dave
The As are really fucking up. If they get knocked out of the playoffs in the 1 game series, I'll sort of feel bad for them.
The Tribe is looking for their second September Miracle in a row. Here's to hoping they manage to take the division this year! :pope:
Thanks to that stupid second wildcard slot, the Mariners actually have a chance to go into September before they rip my heart out this year.
Magic Number is now:
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Going to be lower an hour or so from now though :yeah:
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LOL Brewers. Eight game losing streak and getting swept by the Cubs. Cardinals have a three game lead now heading into their 4 game series with the Brewers. And Wacha is back for today's game :w00t:
It's been a tough season to get too excited about the St. Louis. Pitching has been good but batting has been terrible. How they are 13 games over .500 with a -3 run differential is beyond me. And despite several walk-off wins they're not that exciting to watch.
And I'm sure the Cards will lose tonight since I'm posting about them.
It's September, and the Royals are still in the lead in the AL Central. :w00t:
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#1? That is one nice color photograph from 1908.
Just you wait.
First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
According to espn.com the Orioles have a 99.8% chance of making the playoffs. You O's fans relaxing yet?
Crazy to think that with all that great front-line talent, the Tigers are in a fight to make the playoffs.
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
According to espn.com the Orioles have a 99.8% chance of making the playoffs. You O's fans relaxing yet?
They will make the playoffs valiantly, and they will be eliminated valiantly.
And afterwards men in tall hats and gold watch fobs will thump their chest and say what a brave playoff run it was.
But this is good ground and the boys are spoiling for a fight :thumbsup:
Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
It works, Jumpy McBandwagon.
Ron Washington resigned yesterday, btw. He didn't get fired, and the team was NOT expecting it.
Apparently, there were other (not blow) reasons:
http://www.wfaa.com/story/sports/mlb/rangers/2014/09/06/ron-washington-resigns-as-rangers-manager-amid-questions/15184401/
Quote"We just wish that he -— it's a speedy recovery and back on his feet soon," Pettis said.
"He tried to explain what happened and you know, it's horrible, I have to say," said Rangers outfielder Leonys Martin.
:( Bye Wash.
I saw that yesterday and meant to post it but I was tired and lost interest.
I hope everything turns out OK for him. I always liked him as a manager and if it wasn't my Cardinals ripping his heart out of his chest a couple of years ago I would have been very upset he didn't win that World Series. I hope he can get past/over/better whatever is wrong and come back and take another run at it.
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First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
It works, Jumpy McBandwagon.
Fuck. You.
For almost all of the 1980s, I was inseparable from my Royals hat (well, one of many Royals hats). My love of all things KC Royals is by no means a recent phenomenon. My embrace of the Royals isn't because of joining a bandwagon - it's out of surprise that my childhood team, which I long ago had abandonded due to general ineptitude, is one again good now that I'm in my middle age.
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IS there a GIF of the time Brett shit his pants?
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:wub:
Quote from: Barrister on September 07, 2014, 01:57:39 AM
Quote from: fhdz on September 05, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
It works, Jumpy McBandwagon.
Fuck. You.
For almost all of the 1980s, I was inseparable from my Royals hat (well, one of many Royals hats). My love of all things KC Royals is by no means a recent phenomenon. My embrace of the Royals isn't because of joining a bandwagon - it's out of surprise that my childhood team, which I long ago had abandonded due to general ineptitude, is one again good now that I'm in my middle age.
:D I'm teasing.
Quote from: Barrister on September 07, 2014, 01:57:39 AM
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Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
It works, Jumpy McBandwagon.
Fuck. You.
For almost all of the 1980s, I was inseparable from my Royals hat (well, one of many Royals hats). My love of all things KC Royals is by no means a recent phenomenon. My embrace of the Royals isn't because of joining a bandwagon - it's out of surprise that my childhood team, which I long ago had abandonded due to general ineptitude, is one again good now that I'm in my middle age.
So... you liked them when they were good in the early 80's, abandoned them as soon as they started playing poorly and have taken up liking them again now that they're good? Maybe that doesn't make you a bandwagonner, but ti sure as heck makes you a fair weather fan at best.
That was a hell of a win by the birds today.
Magic Number:
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Heh, two CdM Trivia bits about smooth Mike:
--Only Oriole I ever had in my car, took him back to the ball park after an afternoon game where he was beaned and wound up in the ER. :smarty: Got myself on camera for the 11 o'clock news with that one.
--Personally knew both chicks that had a threesome with him. :smarty: I was not present, but merely assisted with the pre-game introductions.
Cards have won 9 of their last 10 while the Brewers have lost 9 of their last 10. If you're gonna pick a time to get hot, might as well choose September.
Taking Tommy to see Wacha pitch tonight here in Cincy. Yadi is due for a burst of offensive production, so hopefully we'll catch that as well.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 07, 2014, 06:13:34 PM
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Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
First time ever I've done a non-Winnipeg Jets themed Languish sports avatar. Let's see if it works...
It works, Jumpy McBandwagon.
Fuck. You.
For almost all of the 1980s, I was inseparable from my Royals hat (well, one of many Royals hats). My love of all things KC Royals is by no means a recent phenomenon. My embrace of the Royals isn't because of joining a bandwagon - it's out of surprise that my childhood team, which I long ago had abandonded due to general ineptitude, is one again good now that I'm in my middle age.
So... you liked them when they were good in the early 80's, abandoned them as soon as they started playing poorly and have taken up liking them again now that they're good? Maybe that doesn't make you a bandwagonner, but ti sure as heck makes you a fair weather fan at best.
Fair enough - I'm not a manly enough fan to suffer through watching 30 years of shitty baseball. -_-
Oh but you spend tons of time and money on a shitty Hockey franchise. I see how you Canucks are.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 07, 2014, 06:13:34 PM
So... you liked them when they were good in the early 80's, abandoned them as soon as they started playing poorly and have taken up liking them again now that they're good? Maybe that doesn't make you a bandwagonner, but ti sure as heck makes you a fair weather fan at best.
Watching your team lose sucks.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
Oh but you spend tons of time and money on a shitty Hockey franchise. I see how you Canucks are.
Ah, but I spent tons of that time NOT watching a shitty hockey team that didn't exist.
And for the last three years, I've watched a moderately interesting bubble team, thank you very much. :cool:
And wait a sec - isn't BA the *other* Royals fan on Languish?
Quote from: Barrister on September 09, 2014, 03:09:41 PM
And wait a sec - isn't BA the *other* Royals fan on Languish?
The Royals are terrible so it would make sense that BA is a big fan.
I can understand his resentment though, he has sat through that crap for 30 years. You shouldn't just be able to come and go as you please and only pay attention to the good times.
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And wait a sec - isn't BA the *other* Royals fan on Languish?
The Royals are terrible so it would make sense that BA is a big fan.
:yes:
I'm surprised he doesn't root for Vandy.
I grew up in a Yankees household during the 80's, so horrible baseball teams are a natural state for me. I picked up the Royals on a whim in 1995 after getting sick of following my favorite player, Rickey Henderson, from team to team to team to team. I wanted to pick a team that needed fans and it came down to the Tigers or Royals, seeing as how I was partial to the AL. I flipped a coin and it came up heads, so I went with KC. Whoops. I spent 15 years in that abusive relationship and witnessed one .500 or above season. Just in time to get the team stuck with Mike Sweeney's contract to be renewed because of it. Finally, after totally burning out watching all of the futility of the Dayton Moore era which I actually, foolishly, held out hope for at the beginning of, I decided to start watching some other teams on the side. I ended up picking up the Cleveland Indians as a number 2 team and eventually as my new number 1. I like their coach, I like their players, I like their city, I like their relative closeness to my location, I like their radio announce team, I like just about everything expect the attendance at Indians games. I've managed to make it out to Cleveland to catch a few games a season and have listened to I'd say 60 or more games a year since I transferred loyalties.
I do have to admit that it amuses me greatly that whenever I like a team they generally suck (Yankees in the 80's and early 90's, Royals 95-10, Indians 10-12), yet within a short time after I move my loyalties, they manages to rebound and become contenders. It's been incredibly fun to watch the Indians actually compete and make the post season. Usually I follow baseball till football season which kicks in when my baseball team is eliminated from contention. Then I follow football till hockey season amps up, by which point my football team is eliminated from contention. Then I complete the circle by follow baseball once again when my hockey team dies. I've never been a basketball fan on any level, and I can't work up the interest level to get into college football so far.
The nice thing about college football is that even when your team is bad, they win half their games(assuming you didn't pick some dinky little school.)
Horrors! Opening game of a Royals-Tigers series (the two teams fighting for the AL Central), and the Royals lose! :weep:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2014, 06:18:36 PM
The nice thing about college football is that even when your team is bad, they win half their games(assuming you didn't pick some dinky little school.)
Well to be fair no team since 1900 has ever won fewer than 40 games in baseball. Even when you are a 2014 Texas Rangers fan you have a good shot at seeing a win if you go to the ballpark any given day.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
Heh, two CdM Trivia bits about smooth Mike:
--Only Oriole I ever had in my car, took him back to the ball park after an afternoon game where he was beaned and wound up in the ER. :smarty: Got myself on camera for the 11 o'clock news with that one.
--Personally knew both chicks that had a threesome with him. :smarty: I was not present, but merely assisted with the pre-game introductions.
Ok that is awesome. I loved that guy, he and Anderson were amazing in the outfield in the early days of Camden Yards. I remember I watched one game where they stole multiple homers from the Blue Jays jumping over the wall and the Orioles won 1-0. Glad to hear he enjoyed orgies in his off time.
Speaking of Roidy Anderson, the Birds magic number is now:
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That was still my greatest sports shock ever when he hit 50 homers. It would be like if Peyton Manning rushed for 1000 yards this year.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 10:52:05 PM
Glad to hear he enjoyed orgies in his off time.
Groupies are a fickle bunch.
"I just love police cars....ooh, is that an Oriole?"
*exits stage left*
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 10:52:05 PM
That was still my greatest sports shock ever when he hit 50 homers. It would be like if Peyton Manning rushed for 1000 yards this year.
Took me forever to figure out the roid angle on him. IIRC he was on pace by the All-Star game to shatter the record that year.
Don't be so cynical - it was the sideburns, not steroids.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/chris-davis-suspended-25-games-for-amphetamine-use/
QuoteChris Davis Suspended 25 Games for Amphetamine Use
Major League Baseball announced on Friday that Davis has been suspended 25 games for the use of amphetamines. The ban is effective immediately and will include the O's final 17 games of the regular season. It also includes the playoffs, so Davis would be ineligible to play the first eight playoff games should the Orioles, who lead the AL East by 10 games, advance that far.
Davis responded to the suspension news with a statement. He claimed that he had an exemption for Adderall in 2013, but that it was not renewed this year.
"I apologize to my teammates, coaches, the Orioles organization and especially the fans," Davis said. "I made a mistake by taking Adderall. I had permission to use it in the past, but do not have a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) this year. I accept my punishment and will begin serving my suspension immediately."
It's debatable just how much the Orioles will miss Davis, because he's been having a miserable 2014 season. His slash line rests at .196/.300/.404 with just 26 homers and 72 RBI.
Compare that to 2013, when Davis staged a shocking breakout season. The slugger hit a league-leading 53 homers and 138 RBI for the Orioles, leading many to question his sudden outbreak of power. Davis sat at his podium at the All-Star Game in New York and insisted to the skeptics that he was clean.
(Given that he had an exemption for Adderall then, he may have technically been right).
While Davis' breakout season in 2013 led many people to loudly speculate about steroids, amphetamines don't fall under baseball's performance-enhancing drug policy. Thus the 25-game suspension instead of the 50 games a first-time PED user would warrant.
Exemptions for Adderall are somewhat common in baseball and have raised eyebrows since the rate of baseball players claiming ADHD outpaces the rate of the condition among general public.
While the Orioles have been able to get to this point despite losing Manny Machado and Matt Wieters during the season, heading to the playoffs without those two AND Davis complicates manners further. The earliest Davis could come back would be Game Four of the ALCS and that assumes their first-round series goes the entire five games.
- - - - - - -
BTW, did anyone else see Giancarlo Stanton take the fastball to the mouth last night. Ugly.
I have to say not the drug I figured he would be busted for. Ok so now they are down Machado and Davis...no sweat right?
Magic Number is:
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He's hitting .196. He obviously needs more.
Man the Royals are really taking this down to the wire. Only half a game up on the Tigers.
And when I look at the schedule, they end the season with a three game home stand against Detroit. :o
Quote from: Barrister on September 12, 2014, 02:41:13 PM
Man the Royals are really taking this down to the wire. Only half a game up on the Tigers.
And when I look at the schedule, they end the season with a three game home stand against Detroit. :o
Reminds me of the AL Central race in 2005. They had to battle off the Twins and Indians toward the end of the season to win the divsion. I went to one of the Indians games in Chicago a couple weeks before the season ended and it was very much a playoff atmosphere.
Quote from: sbr on September 12, 2014, 11:02:58 AM
BTW, did anyone else see Giancarlo Stanton take the fastball to the mouth last night. Ugly.
Yeah, they said multiple fractures. I'd say so.
And we are down to:
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Little birdies are singing; Chris Davis may have played his last game as an Oriole.
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:52 AM
Ok so now they are down Machado and Davis...no sweat right?
You forgot Matt Wieters. too.
We going to the playoff Hon!
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Never thought I would see this day again :cry:
Royals are now a game and a half back of Detroit. They're a game up on Seattle for a wildcard spot, but man, a one-game win or go home wild card game makes me nervous...
That home stand against Detroit looks more critical than ever.
Nationals also clinched last night. Nats-O's World Series?
I stayed up to watch the Cards lose in the 12th :mellow:
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:52 AM
I have to say not the drug I figured he would be busted for.
It reveals a lack of basic common sense in the MLB drug policy, no surprise there. Adderall? Who cares? Not to mention just about every legendary player from the 50s/60s/70s used similar or worse.
I may just be moved to believe now.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 17, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:52 AM
I have to say not the drug I figured he would be busted for.
It reveals a lack of basic common sense in the MLB drug policy, no surprise there. Adderall? Who cares? Not to mention just about every legendary player from the 50s/60s/70s used similar or worse.
It is speed-- could that not be performance enhancing? Anyway, the league has an exemption if you have a prescription for it. You just have to apply for the exemption.
Nice complete game by Waino-- looks like he's shaken off his second half slump and should be able to pick up a 20th win. Although I think wins by pitcher is an overrated stat, 20 wins looks nice on a stat sheet.
Quote from: derspiess on September 17, 2014, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 17, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:52 AM
I have to say not the drug I figured he would be busted for.
It reveals a lack of basic common sense in the MLB drug policy, no surprise there. Adderall? Who cares? Not to mention just about every legendary player from the 50s/60s/70s used similar or worse.
It is speed-- could that not be performance enhancing? Anyway, the league has an exemption if you have a prescription for it. You just have to apply for the exemption.
Apparently he had such an exemption when he was with the Rangers, but not with the Orioles. Don't know what that's all about.
Sounds like nitpicking to me. Even NFL Properties collusion against Baltimore spreads to Dem O's.
If he snorted aderall while beating some kid he would have been fine.
Two winning seasons in a row! :w00t:
I never thought I'd live to see it. :weep:
And the Brewers are pretty much out of the playoffs :lol:
The Tribe is clinging to life desperately, but things aren't looking good. :pope:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 19, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
The Tribe is clinging to life desperately, but things aren't looking good. :pope:
You never should have abandoned the Royals. :showoff:
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2014, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 19, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
The Tribe is clinging to life desperately, but things aren't looking good. :pope:
You never should have abandoned the Royals. :showoff:
I was gonna mock you for your avatar a couple days ago but they're hanging tough. Hope they win the division. Tigers have already had their day on the sun.
Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2014, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2014, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 19, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
The Tribe is clinging to life desperately, but things aren't looking good. :pope:
You never should have abandoned the Royals. :showoff:
I was gonna mock you for your avatar a couple days ago but they're hanging tough. Hope they win the division. Tigers have already had their day on the sun.
I never expected them to win the division, or, well, anything.
It's just fun they're still right in the thick of things.
Althoug there are a handful of games afterwards, this three day homestand against Detroit could very well decide things. :ph34r:
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2014, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 19, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
The Tribe is clinging to life desperately, but things aren't looking good. :pope:
You never should have abandoned the Royals. :showoff:
They wouldn't be doing well if I still liked them. :lol:
Would the Pirates please lose a game. Kind of annoying seeing the magic number not diminish faster than it is.
Well it was fun while it lasted.
Royals win tonight! :w00t:
So does Detroit! :ultra:
A wildcard spot is looking more and more likely. Too bad I don't like their chances against the As. <_<
Way to go out with a whimper, Tribe. <_< Looks like I'll be pulling for the Royals and Pirates this year.
The Pirates have secured their Wild Card spot. :)
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Congrats to the Pirates. Now lose, please.
Second year in a row both the Os and the Pirates made it to the post season. Hopefully they will not meet in the World Series.
The Braves. :cry:
Millwaukee is not mathematically eliminated from the playoff hunt just yet. If the Giants lose all the rest of their games and the Brewers win all theirs, they're in!
But basically in the NL the only question left is who will win the NL Central. Cardinals are trying to give it away by dropping two straight to the Flubs, but the Pirates finally lost a damned game yesterday so there's still a 1.5 game gap.
Royals are in the playoffs! First time since 1985! :cool:
I, for one, had absolutely zero belief they'd do it. :ph34r:
And they're still only one game back from the AL Central. :unsure:
Could StL please lose two games? That'd be swell, thanks. :)
No.
Quote from: Syt on September 27, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
Could StL please lose two games? That'd be swell, thanks. :)
Not likely! I went to the ball park and some my "Raz magic" rubbed off on them. In fact I was rubbing my magic all over that stadium. Now I have to face a country judge come December. :(
:lol:
For the first time in my adult life I can say I'm proud of my hometown team. Thanks, Reds.
Jee whiz - for all my hype o Languish, I couldn't actually watch any Royals games (well, I watched an inning or two one last weekend) - they just aren't on Canadian TV.
But I have reserved the TV for Tuesday night. -_-
No idea if this Giants team can beat Pirates.
I'd be worried about the Royals, they're the scariest team in the AL for the O's, but they're going to have to get over that 1-5 season series record against Detroit first.
Woohoo! The Rangers didn't lose 100!
Quote from: katmai on September 28, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
No idea if this Giants team can beat Pirates.
One game is such a crapshoot.
Braves finish 17 back of the Nationals. :bleeding:
So Friday we have Kershaw vs. Waino. I'm thinking the Cards should have saved Wainwright for Game 2, as it's very likely that the anemic offense will be held scoreless in Game 1. A 1-0 loss is still a loss.
So the opening game between the Os and the Tigers is the day before my midterm exam. Fuck.
Quote from: Valmy on September 29, 2014, 10:53:04 AM
So the opening game between the Os and the Tigers is the day before my midterm exam. Fuck.
I think you can manage 3 or so hours' break.
I have declared the main tv off limits to kids shows for Tuesday's AL Wildcard game.
Orioles, Angels, Royals ... it's like 1979 in the American league all over again.
You just had to go there, didn't you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
You just had to go there, didn't you.
That's what "family" is for.
Quote from: Valmy on September 29, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
You sick bastard.
How the hell do you remember stuff from 1979? :lol:
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 29, 2014, 05:04:57 PM
Orioles, Angels, Royals ... it's like 1979 in the American league all over again.
I remember that World Series. Every damned kid in the neighborhood wanted to be Willie Stargell when we played baseball the next year.
Fuck Willie Stargell and that stupid song. Stupid striped hats. Looke like a goddamned barber shop quartet.
I may have owned one of those hats ;)
Andy Van Slyke says you're gay. And that's saying something.
I thought Kent Tekulve was cool.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2014, 09:23:55 AM
Andy Van Slyke says you're gay. And that's saying something.
Watch it, sucka. Vandy was my favorite player in the mid-80s. I used to sub him in as catcher on the '85 Cards in MicroLeague. Stupid Tom Nieto and his .225 BA.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 30, 2014, 09:25:40 AM
I thought Kent Tekulve was cool.
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He was the definition of cool.
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See, a few months back Valmy and Seedy would have been thrilled with a simple playoff appearance even if followed by a quick exit. Now they are turning their noses at the prospect of just making to the Series, only total victory will suffice. It's a small step from there to becoming just as demanding as a Yankee fan. Only it's even worse when the provincials do it - look at how awful the Bosox fans became.
Quote from: derspiess on September 30, 2014, 09:50:20 AMHe was the definition of cool.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 30, 2014, 10:04:41 AM
See, a few months back Valmy and Seedy would have been thrilled with a simple playoff appearance even if followed by a quick exit. Now they are turning their noses at the prospect of just making to the Series, only total victory will suffice. It's a small step from there to becoming just as demanding as a Yankee fan. Only it's even worse when the provincials do it - look at how awful the Bosox fans became.
There is a legacy at work here. You've been to Cooperstown, you know the amount of Orioles stuff there: from 30 and 40 years ago.
The Orioles must reclaim their rightful place in history at the vanguard of great nations, this season and in space.
I'm what you'd call a more relaxed fan. The 2006 WS scratched an itch and ended an unjust 24-year drought. In the incredible 2011 WS run I was just happy they made it to the playoffs and they were playing with house money the whole time. I'd love to see them get to the WS this year, but if they lose in the divisional series I'll be okay with it.
Honestly I've felt spoiled with this team, given how other teams I support tend to be underdogs.
I'm undecided whether a "one and done" wildcard game will truly satisfy my long-surpressed Royals fandom or not.
It still seems completely astonishing to me though that this is happening. I mean - it's the Royals. They haven't been good since I was a child.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2014, 08:51:47 AM
Fuck Willie Stargell and that stupid song. Stupid striped hats. Looke like a goddamned barber shop quartet.
:cheers:
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 30, 2014, 10:04:41 AM
See, a few months back Valmy and Seedy would have been thrilled with a simple playoff appearance even if followed by a quick exit. Now they are turning their noses at the prospect of just making to the Series, only total victory will suffice. It's a small step from there to becoming just as demanding as a Yankee fan. Only it's even worse when the provincials do it - look at how awful the Bosox fans became.
This is likely to be their only division title for awhile. So I hope that somehow miraculously they get red hot and take advantage. 1983 has been sustaining us for a long time.
It is even year, y'all just better bow down to Los Gigantes De San Francisco now.
Still cannot believe Oakland managed to almost fuck their season with their roster. FINISH THEM ROYALS!
Just turned on the game a few minutes ago. I am: Beeb's good luck charm.
Quote from: derspiess on September 30, 2014, 08:22:34 PM
Just turned on the game a few minutes ago. I am: Beeb's good luck charm.
Fuck - I just realized a few minutes ago that I was missing the game.
I turned it on - oh good - top of the 6th, Royals up 3-2.
Then :bleeding:
Dammit
Well it gets more interesting.
7-6 As going into the 9th. :ph34r:
Holy shit this game is intense.
Going into the 10th. :ph34r:
Bottom of 11. :ph34r:
Going to 12. My heart... it cannae take it. :ph34r:
Wow that was a clutch hit. 90 feet away from tying it.
Colon chops it and the As blow the play! Tied again! Holy shit. Feels like the Royals night.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
Colon chops it and the As blow the play! Tied again! Holy shit. Feels like the Royals night.
Don't jinx it, oh my brother-by-another-mother. :ph34r:
Perez hits it and Colon scores! ROYALS WIN!!
Now that was a hell of game.
There is nothing like playoff baseball. The tension...the drama....the going to bed before the game ends even after watching for 5 hours.*
*So that one I waited out.
Congrats to the Royals.
How about Norris bumbling on the pitch out? The As second half choke job is complete.
:cool:
That. Was. OSSUM.
I hate when they show Ripken in the broadcast booth. He looks so old, it makes me feel old.
Not so crisply played but great baseball
KC earned that win
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
Nice. All it took was me to find a new team. :face:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 01, 2014, 12:19:15 AM
Nice. All it took was me to find a new team. :face:
:nelson:
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2014, 12:16:09 AM
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
I am happy for you. :)
Just keep in mind that your joy when the Thrashers moved is matched each and every day by the sadness of Atlanta residents separated from their beloved franchise.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 01, 2014, 12:20:50 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2014, 12:16:09 AM
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
I am happy for you. :)
Just keep in mind that your joy when the Thrashers moved is matched each and every day by the sadness of Atlanta residents separated from their beloved franchise.
:rolleyes:
The Flames left 30+ years ago - time to let it go.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 01, 2014, 12:20:50 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2014, 12:16:09 AM
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
I am happy for you. :)
Just keep in mind that your joy when the Thrashers moved is matched each and every day by the sadness of Atlanta residents separated from their beloved franchise.
:lol:
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2014, 12:16:09 AM
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
I'm gonna let you in on a secret. After the injustice of 1985 (let's face it, the Royals should have an asterisk next to that one) I put a curse on the Royals that they would never win a playoff game again. But since I knew how much this game meant to you, I lifted that curse around the 8th inning.
Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2014, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2014, 12:16:09 AM
Dammit I can't stop beaming. I haven't been so sports happy since the Jets return in 2011. :cool:
I'm gonna let you in on a secret. After the injustice of 1985 (let's face it, the Royals should have an asterisk next to that one) I put a curse on the Royals that they would never win a playoff game again. But since I knew how much this game meant to you, I lifted that curse around the 8th inning.
Your tears - they are delicious.
IT DOESNT HURT ANYMORE
Just when I decided I wanted the Pirates to win, Volquez gives up a grand salami. All the air is now sacked out of that stadium and it doesn't feel like a playoff game any longer.
Los Gigantes!
Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2014, 08:28:42 PM
Just when I decided I wanted the Pirates to win, Volquez gives up a grand salami. All the air is now sacked out of that stadium and it doesn't feel like a playoff game any longer.
Yeah, that's all breaking my heart and stuff.
Oh well, that was a bit one sided.
Guess I'll be rooting for the O's for the rest of the play offs.
Holy crap there's a game starting in half an hour. These damned DLS games sneak up on me.
Brother-in-law scored tickets for tomorrow's game at noon, so my afternoon is booked.
I've only been to one MLB playoff game. It was a long time coming, and kind of unfulfilling. It's not that I cared if the Reds won or lost, just that they fell behind early and you didn't get that crazy-ass electric atmosphere where the crowd is hanging on every pitch.
Come to think of it, the NFL playoff games I've attended were also shitty, but I guess that's for another thread.
Suck on that, Ghost of Sparky.
Listened to the game on radio on the way home. Kinda nice to hear Chris Berman call a baseball game. Seems like it's been ages since I saw or heard him do anything but studio NFL analysis.
Wow it has been awhile since I heard somebody say it was nice to hear Chris Berman.
This is getting nerve wracking :ph34r:
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2014, 07:32:57 PM
This is getting nerve wracking :ph34r:
It wouldn't be an Orioles postseason if it weren't.
I feel better now.
O's need more hits this inning. They're holding back.
Tigers falling apart :cool:
Quote from: derspiess on October 02, 2014, 07:56:50 PM
O's need more hits this inning. They're holding back.
:lol: This inning is the one benefit of a team of hackers like the O's that swing like an 11 year old on PlayStation: they can really make a mess of things in a hurry.
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Tigers falling apart :cool:
:cheers: Listening to the game on the WBAL stream via MLB Audio.
This inning needs to end. It's not doing Britton any good sitting in the dugout for 30 minutes, and with a noon start tomorrow, batting practice is going to come with a complimentary continental spread. They need to start sending guys to the hotel now.
MOAR INSURANCE RUNS
I don't think I have ever been so calm when a reliever loads the bases at the end of a game.
Anyway that was pretty sweet. Now they just need to beat that Verlander punk. Kate Upton cannot save you now.
They not only need to beat Verlander, they need Chen to give them some real innings. Going through virtually the entire bullpen in Game 1 is not good, especially with a 15 hour turnaround. Tillman hitting 100 pitches by the end of the 5th was bad. I think he could've started the 6th, but that was the meat of the Detroit lineup, and it would've been too dangerous with a 1 run lead.
I like a lot of Angels players, but I just can't bring myself to like the team. Maybe it's the lingering memory of that rally monkey bullshit.
Stupid Thursday Night Football, pushing this game onto a channel I don't get. <_<
I'm stuck "watching" this on MLB.com.
Cripes - game tied, bottom of the 9th, two on, two out...
I never thought that just watching play by play statistics could be so stressful.
Going into 11...
Quote from: Barrister on October 03, 2014, 12:04:50 AM
Going into 11...
...and they go up 3-2! You should drop the minor coin to get MLB Audio or MLB.tv. It'll be worth it. :)
LOL, he sure hit the shit out of that one. Think it had a stewardess on it.
Woo! Royals win!
I think Buck needs to convince his team that every inning is the 8th inning from here on.
Man that had to be a heartbreaker for the Tigers. Here is hoping they do not recover.
Quote from: Barrister on October 03, 2014, 12:22:40 AM
Woo! Royals win!
The KC Conspiracy to make you sleep deprived while trying to carry out the duties of the Crown is working.
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2014, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 03, 2014, 12:22:40 AM
Woo! Royals win!
The KC Conspiracy to make you sleep deprived while trying to carry out the duties of the Crown is working.
It's not too bad since I'm in MDT. But surely they won't have a third straight game go into extra innings.
Thankfully there's no Thursday Night Football to pre-empt Sportsnet from showing the game.
I wonder if Viper is enraged you are supporting foreign Royals like this.
Los Gigantes!
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
I think Buck needs to convince his team that every inning is the 8th inning from here on.
Man that had to be a heartbreaker for the Tigers. Here is hoping they do not recover.
They can't continue playing and winning games like these last two; they need starters to survive the 5th, save their bullpen, and quit hoping that the runs will come in the 8th of the bench.
Makes for exciting baseball, but not a winning formula down the stretch.
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2014, 05:25:43 PM
I wonder if Viper is enraged you are supporting foreign Royals like this.
He is, or will be when he gets over the fact that BB has a gov. job without being Bilingual.
Lolz Dodgers.
LOL, Kershaw. You're awesome during the regular season. Need some more postseason reps though. In a week full of come from behind thrillers, this was the icing on the cake.
I don't care if the Cards lose the DLS-- this game was worth the price of admission.
Jeebus - extra innings AGAIN. :lol:
And everything's coming up KC. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on October 04, 2014, 12:37:44 AM
And everything's coming up KC. :cool:
Everything, or just baseball?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 04, 2014, 08:23:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 04, 2014, 12:37:44 AM
And everything's coming up KC. :cool:
Everything, or just baseball?
Everything's up to date in Kansas City
They gone about as fer as they can go
They went an' built a skyscraper seven stories high
About as high as a buildin' orta grow.
Everything's like a dream in Kansas City
It's better than a magic lantern show.
You can turn the radiator on whenever you want some heat
With every kind of comfort every house is all complete.
You could walk the privees in the rain and never wet your feet!
They've gone about as fer as they can go.
They've gone about as fer as they can go!
So Orioles or Royals are gonna lose to Giants this year eh?
Nah, the Giants are gonna lose to the Cards.
I would rather face Cards then Dodgers.
I'm watching the Nats-Giants spectacle more than the Cards game. Listening to Harold Reynolds and the other guy kissing the ass of every single Dodgers player gets more tiring than watching 17 innings.
Giants score. Come on Nats tie it up!
Eat shit and die Marylander!
Los Gigantes!!
Quote from: katmai on October 04, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
Eat shit and die Marylander!
Los Gigantes!!
I just wanted to see it make it to the 20th :P
Nice win there Giants.
My heart couldn't make it to 19th, let alone the 20th.
Cards tie it up!
Sorry Spicey tough loss.
Man nutso day in sports today.
On balance I'm quite happy for the Cards to be even going into the two games at home. They have
Ike the second best home record in MLB so with a little luck I won't have to see Dodgers fans again this year.
Anyway it'd be cool to see both AL DLS's decided today.
Quote from: derspiess on October 05, 2014, 09:50:08 AM
Anyway it'd be cool to see both AL DLS's decided today.
*knocks on wood*
Congrats O's & go KC.
:cool:
Now the Royals vs Orioles - MLB's most unlikely ALCS pairing of all time! :yeah:
Battle for first loser!
Quote from: katmai on October 05, 2014, 10:52:57 PM
Battle for first loser!
Now I'm not predicting nothing - but if the royals could make it this far, and defeat the Angels with this year's best record, well... they could potentially do anything. :wacko:
Plus the Al rules and the NL drools. :P
ALCS doesn't start until Friday? Who the hell knows which team will show up.
I say O's in 6. Both teams are fun to watch so it should be entertaining regardless.
At least Armando Benitez will not be pitching for the Os this time.
Fun fact of the day - the Royals are on a 7 game playoff winning streak, going back to game 5 of the 1985 World Series. :cool:
FUCK OFF
Quote from: Barrister on October 06, 2014, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
FUCK OFF
:mmm:
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Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
FUCK OFF
You can't blame the Pleated Prosecutor for John Tudor Kershawing Game 7.
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
FUCK OFF
Let him have his moment.
Hell, any AL post-season without Boston or New York is a breath of fresh fucking air.
Quote from: Barrister on October 06, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
Fun fact of the day - the Royals are on a 7 game playoff winning streak, going back to game 5 of the 1985 World Series. :cool:
Man, I didn't even know there were Royals fans before this year.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 06, 2014, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
FUCK OFF
You can't blame the Pleated Prosecutor for John Tudor Kershawing Game 7.
There shouldn't have been a Game 7. But we all knew that.
Good God the Fox announcers are also up the Dodgers' asses. I mean LA is a good team but come on.
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 06, 2014, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 06, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
FUCK OFF
You can't blame the Pleated Prosecutor for John Tudor Kershawing Game 7.
There shouldn't have been a Game 7. But we all knew that.
True.
Your guys had every opportunity to win the series in games 5 and 6, but just couldn't manage it.
I'm gonna let you have your moment, as Seedy suggested. Because Nelson Cruz is going to be cruel enough to you.
Anywho, the Dodgers went ahead and announced before last night's game that they were going to start Kershaw today on short rest. Because his last three postseason appearances vs. the Cards have to be flukes, right?? :menace:
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
Anywho, the Dodgers went ahead and announced before last night's game that they were going to start Kershaw today on short rest. Because his last three postseason appearances vs. the Cards have to be flukes, right?? :menace:
I love Donnie Baseball. His main guy falls down and Donnie's response is to show his total, unequivocal confidence.
That said, Haren closed the season pretty strong . . .
I was starting to worry I'd have to eat my words until the 7th inning and I realized it was the 7th inning-- when the Cards do their damage :D
As much as anything I'm glad I don't have to watch those fake-ass Dodgers fans anymore this postseason.
As much as I'd love to see the Cardinals get another shot to rip the guts out of Nationals fans in the NLCS, I guess I'd be happy enough watching the Giants do it. Speaking of which, bases loaded walk LOL
I still just cannot believe the Orioles are going to be playing for the American League Championship again. In some of those dark days of 1998 - 2011 where I figured my last memories of the Orioles playing in this thing would be Armando Benitez and Jeffrey Maier.
Speaking of the dark days damn the attendance numbers for this year compared to 1997 were abysmal. I wonder if they will ever recover.
Lol spicy, if Giants fail to close out Nats here I'll be rooting for Cards and suck it Dodgers.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Speaking of the dark days damn the attendance numbers for this year compared to 1997 were abysmal. I wonder if they will ever recover.
THey could always move the team back to St. Louis and become the Browns again.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2014, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Speaking of the dark days damn the attendance numbers for this year compared to 1997 were abysmal. I wonder if they will ever recover.
THey could always move the team back to St. Louis and become the Browns again.
Well the average was still almost 10 times the average crowd at a 1953 St Louis Browns game :P
:lol: St. Louis would find another Bill Veeck to keep things interesting & draw crowds.
OMG Pete Rose Skechers commercial :bleeding:
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
:lol: St. Louis would find another Bill Veeck to keep things interesting & draw crowds.
OMG Pete Rose Skechers commercial :bleeding:
Hey boy, watch the Pete Rose hate.
Have you *seen* the commercial??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYEGUzV-tOs
What a game. Giants set to retake the lead?
Los Gigantes! :w00t:
And the table is set. Giants sure deserved this. As a general fan of the game I hope the NLCS & ALCS are as entertaining as the LDS have been.
As a Cardinals fan I look at the pattern and realize this year is the Giants' turn to represent the NL in the Series :mellow:
Also that was a kickass catch by Pence.
KC concerns me; why I don't think they have as much overall talent as the Os, they're playing hot and that is what wins in baseball.
That being said, Buck Showalter managed Brad Ausmus right out of his socks, albeit with a little help from Brad himself (Chamberlain again in Game 2, because getting shellacked the night before wasn't enough? Hernan Perez? Who?).
Advantage: Buck and his bullpen.
Asked my sister what the mood's like in KC. She and her husband don't care for sports (like, at all), but she says the hype machine is in full gear and merchandise just flies off the shelves.
No offense Syt but does your sister have any redeeming qualities? Crazy right wing religious person who doesn't like sports? Is there something cool about her?
Quote from: Syt on October 08, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Asked my sister what the mood's like in KC. She and her husband don't care for sports (like, at all), but she says the hype machine is in full gear and merchandise just flies off the shelves.
I imagine they need to knock off a layer of dust, but nice to see a dormant fan base come alive. I think the only times I see a Royals hat is on some hip-hopper or wanna be, flat bill and all. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2014, 10:45:04 AM
No offense Syt but does your sister have any redeeming qualities? Crazy right wing religious person who doesn't like sports? Is there something cool about her?
She's not super right wing. Yet. Her husband his half Native American, so that might delay the conversion to right-wing nutjob. For my other sisters it took 10, 15 years. They were very liberal when they were in Germany. :P
Quote from: Syt on October 08, 2014, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2014, 10:45:04 AM
No offense Syt but does your sister have any redeeming qualities? Crazy right wing religious person who doesn't like sports? Is there something cool about her?
She's not super right wing. Yet. Her husband his half Native American, so that might delay the conversion to right-wing nutjob. For my other sisters it took 10, 15 years. They were very liberal when they were in Germany. :P
Ah ok wrong sister :blush:
One sister is a Steelers fan, right?
Quote from: derspiess on October 08, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
One sister is a Steelers fan, right?
The two oldest are. The oldest one who lives in the Florida panhandle additionally roots for the Gators.
Wait how big is your family and did anybody stay in Germany?
Three sisters in U.S. (KC, FL, Pitt./PA). With various offspring begotten over there. One nephew from my middle sister's first marriage who moved over to the U.S. a few years ago. In Germany: Mom, near where we grew up. Nephew and Niece (from my "youngest" sister - she's 7 years older), living 2 hours and 6 hours, respectively, from my Mom's.
There's some aunt/uncle/cousins stuff, but we don't really have contact with them.
Don't really understand why any Europeans would come here in this day and age, but hey, whatever floats your kriegsschiff.
I believe they married yanqui pigdogs.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
Don't really understand why any Europeans would come here in this day and age, but hey, whatever floats your kriegsschiff.
Free soda refills :contract:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 08, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
Don't really understand why any Europeans would come here in this day and age, but hey, whatever floats your kriegsschiff.
The oldest two have been Over There for 15 (+ a few extra years before that when her husband was stationed in Ft. Knox and El Paso) and 28 years, respectively. The youngest went a few years ago.
My nephew has been invited to join the baseball program that produced, among many others, Barry Larkin, Ken Griffey, Jr & Mike Matheny. They have 17 alumni on current MLB rosters and a few current coaches.
Seems like an awful serious thing to get an 8-year old involved with, but he's all for it. And the kid has an amazing work ethic with how he practices.
I read that Matt Adams's game-winning HR in the 7th inning was the first HR hit by a left-handed Major Leage batter off of Kershaw's curveball-- ever.
Footage from the final game of the 1924 World Series between Giants and Senators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2AN9IDDLqg#t=59
http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/52443/video-found-of-1924-world-series-action
QuoteA few thoughts on the film and that World Series:
The film shows Earl McNeely's game-winning hit, which reportedly took a bad hop over third baseman Fred Lindstrom, although you can't actually tell from the footage. (McNeely's name is misspelled as "McNeeley" in the film.)
Unfortunately, we don't have the play that set up the winning run. With one out, Muddy Ruel launched a high foul pop behind home plate that Giants catcher Hank Gowdy staggered under before stumbling on his discarded mask and dropping the ball. Ruel then doubled and Walter Johnson reached on an error by shortstop Travis Jackson, with Ruel holding second, setting up McNeely's hit.
We do see Johnson pitching. In his first World Series at age 36, the great Johnson was looking like the goat before Game 7, having lost both of his starts while giving up 27 hits (granted, he lost Game 1 after pitching all 12 innings). The series was played that year without an off day, so after starting Game 5, Johnson didn't start Game 7. He entered in relief in the ninth inning with the score tied 3-3 and pitched four scoreless innings to get the win.
Johnson had a peculiar sidearm delivery; he whipped his arm across his body. Doesn't seem that he could have thrown in the mid-to-upper 90s with that motion, but his motion was so unique and his arms were so long that maybe he was able to generate that kind of velocity. Or at least without injuring his shoulder or elbow. Here's more on Johnson's motion.
Washington player-manager Bucky Harris used an interesting strategy. Giants rookie first baseman Bill Terry had been red-hot in the first six games, but manager John McGraw was platooning him. Harris started right-hander Curly Ogden -- putting Terry in the lineup -- and then switched to lefty George Mogridge after two batters. Terry went 0-for-2 against Mogridge. When he came up with two runners on in the sixth, McGraw pinch-hit Irish Meusel. Harris countered with his ace reliever, right-hander Firpo Marberry. The Giants still scored three runs in the inning, with the help of two Senators errors. (The film misidentifies Mogridge, since it's a right-hander pitching, not a lefty.)
The Senators tied it in the eighth, when Harris, who had homered earlier, hit a two-out, two-run single off Giants starter Virgil Barnes -- the 29th batter Barnes had faced. While starters went the distance about half the time back then, the Giants were slightly below average in complete games, so McGraw wasn't necessarily behind the times. He just let Barnes go too long. Imagine the uproar if that happened now!
Notice the headfirst slide into first base!
By the way, the 1925 World Series also went seven games -- the Pirates defeated Johnson and the Senators 9-7 in the finale -- with Game 7 played in horrific conditions, with a foggy, misty day turning into a steady downpour. The New York Times described players "wallowing ankle-deep in mud, pitchers slipping as they delivered the ball to the plate, athletes skidding and sloshing, falling full length, dropping soaked baseballs ..."
OK, Library of Congress. Let's find some footage of that one.
Very cool. The (current) Nationals fly a 1924 flag in their stadium, which IMO they have zero right to do. I think they also fly a 1933 flag, but the Senators actually lost that Series.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
The (current) Nationals fly a 1924 flag in their stadium, which IMO they have zero right to do.
Bah. A Washinton team won the series. They're a Washington team.
Not sure if they have it in the new arena, but the old Winnipeg Arena had a Stanley Cup banner for the 1901 Winnipeg Victorias. Now sure - that pre-dated the creation of the NHL, but a Winnipeg Team wsa awarded the Cup that year. It's not as if anyone else is hanging up banners for 1901.
Quote from: Syt on October 09, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
QuoteA few thoughts on the film and that World Series:
Johnson had a peculiar sidearm delivery; he whipped his arm across his body. Doesn't seem that he could have thrown in the mid-to-upper 90s with that motion, but his motion was so unique and his arms were so long that maybe he was able to generate that kind of velocity. Or at least without injuring his shoulder or elbow.
It's very unlikely Johnson threw at 95+. He was once clocked around 90 but using equipment not designed for that purpose. Also the sidearm motion is a good deal less stressful so injury risk is less, especially since Johnson's motion was so smooth.
The basis for WJ's rep, other than his incredible results, was probably due to:
1) His fastball, while not super-fast by modern standards was quite fast for his era.
2) His fastball had good movement.
3) His arm strength and smooth sidearm delivery allowed him to throw at or near max velocity the entire game. Whereas a typical practice in that era was for pitchers to pace themselves and only throw at peak velocity at key moments.
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 02:13:52 PM
Bah. A Washinton team won the series. They're a Washington team.
No, it's bullshit. It's perfectly fine to have a statue or monument somewhere outside of the stadium to commemorate past glories of a different franchise that happened to be in that city. But to put flags up on the stadiums is claiming someone else's past glory is sad at best.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2014, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 02:13:52 PM
Bah. A Washinton team won the series. They're a Washington team.
No, it's bullshit. It's perfectly fine to have a statue or monument somewhere outside of the stadium to commemorate past glories of a different franchise that happened to be in that city. But to put flags up on the stadiums is claiming someone else's past glory is sad at best.
It depends - does Minnesota celebrate or claim winning the 1924 World Series? If they claim that heritage, then fine, it stays with the team.
But if Minnesota doesn't care - if they trace the history of the franchise to the first day they played in Minnesota, then it's fair game.
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
It depends - does Minnesota celebrate or claim winning the 1924 World Series? If they claim that heritage, then fine, it stays with the team.
Don't know & don't care. It's the Twins' to use or no other team's. The city of Washington, DC is entitled to commemorate it in some way IMO but not the Nationals themselves.
QuoteBut if Minnesota doesn't care - if they trace the history of the franchise to the first day they played in Minnesota, then it's fair game.
Disagree. It remains that the current Washington Nationals team has zero connection to the 1924 Washington Senators other than they happen to play in the same city.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
It depends - does Minnesota celebrate or claim winning the 1924 World Series? If they claim that heritage, then fine, it stays with the team.
Don't know & don't care. It's the Twins' to use or no other team's. The city of Washington, DC is entitled to commemorate it in some way IMO but not the Nationals themselves.
QuoteBut if Minnesota doesn't care - if they trace the history of the franchise to the first day they played in Minnesota, then it's fair game.
Disagree. It remains that the current Washington Nationals team has zero connection to the 1924 Washington Senators other than they happen to play in the same city.
Remember you're talking to a Winnipeg Jets fan. The history and heritage of a sports team belongs to the city and to that city's fans, not to some corporate body that may come and go. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 04:08:10 PM
Remember you're talking to a Winnipeg Jets fan. The history and heritage of a sports team belongs to the city and to that city's fans, not to some corporate body that may come and go. :cool:
That's fine. Plus, I'd be willing to give more latitude to an arena that sees more general use as opposed to a baseball stadium purpose built for that one team.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 09, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
It's very unlikely Johnson threw at 95+. He was once clocked around 90 but using equipment not designed for that purpose.
It's kind of weird that even today we don't seem to have a precise clocking method everyone agrees upon. For example I've seen Chapman throw what appears as 106 on the scoreboard, and reading up on it the next day that pitch is listed as 101.9 or 102.7 depending on how they measured it.
And apparently there are multiple claims to the fastest pitch ever thrown or even the top 10 fastest pitches.
Having seen all of about 30 at bats the whole season it does seem like there more pitchers throwing in the high 90s than ever before.
What do you guys think?
I think you're probably right. There were 8 guys consistently throwing over 100.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2014, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2014, 02:13:52 PM
Bah. A Washinton team won the series. They're a Washington team.
No, it's bullshit. It's perfectly fine to have a statue or monument somewhere outside of the stadium to commemorate past glories of a different franchise that happened to be in that city. But to put flags up on the stadiums is claiming someone else's past glory is sad at best.
Do the Twins also have those flags up there? Because that would be funny...almost as funny as the Nats claiming the 1933 American League Championship.
This is an amazing find, I cannot wait for my dad to see this. He has wanted to see film of this since he was a little kid. I once spent time hunting around for the radio call just to discover there were no recordings of Radio Baseball Games before Game 7 of the 1934 series in existence.
Forecast is calling for substantial and sustained rains in Baltimore all day Friday, throughout the afternoon and well into the evening, impacting game time. May even get rained out.
:yeah:
FFS Hardy
There we go. Don't start the victory dance quite yet BB.
Quote from: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
There we go. Don't start the victory dance quite yet BB.
Wouldn't dream of it. All tied up now.
Ah man Cruz!
He'll of a damned game so far. Picking up where the DLS games left off.
Is it just me or does it feel like we're already in extra innings?
Quote from: derspiess on October 10, 2014, 10:29:52 PM
Is it just me or does it feel like we're already in extra innings?
No kidding. Already exhausted.
GET HIM OUT OF THERE ALREADY
3 straight walks. :ph34r:
:grr:
Extra innings again!!!!!
Yeah I was already there.
Home run!
Don't you have something better to do, like curling?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 11:26:33 PM
Don't you have something better to do, like curling?
There's nothing I'd rather be doing right now.
You're not even American. GTFO
I knew that damn double play by Cruz would haunt us. Oh well lets get out of this inning.
Another!!!!! :yeah:
Ouch. That might have been the dagger.
I'm not really in the mood for KC extra inning bullshit, anyway. I'm tired.
:weep:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 11:39:08 PM
I'm not really in the mood for KC extra inning bullshit, anyway. I'm tired.
:console:
Phew
Quiet, you.
Ah well it is just game one right? All hope is not lost right?
Ah who am I kidding. They are doomed. I am going to go get drunk.
Quote from: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 11:57:38 PM
Ah well it is just game one right? All hope is not lost right?
Ah who am I kidding. They are doomed. I am going to go get drunk.
You're talking to a Royals fan here.
The last time I paid attention to MLB playoffs was 1985. Which saw the Royals come back from 3-1 deficits in both the ALCS and World Series. This thing sure isn't over.
I might be reacting a bit emotionally and not rationally...
Nah. DOOOOMED.
Still though - I cannot believe the motherfucking Royals are winning playoff games. I was 10 years old the last time this happened. I turn 40 next year. This is absolutely crazy. Not sure if I should be buying lottery tickets, or writing out my will.
And just for derspeiss - the Royals playoff winning streak goes to 8 games. :cool:
Meh, the KC Magical Mystery Tour is snowballing, they're the darlings now with their daring never-say-die extra inning magic! The rest of the ALCS is merely procedural.
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 12:06:34 AM
Still though - I cannot believe the motherfucking Royals are winning playoff games. I was 10 years old the last time this happened. I turn 40 next year. This is absolutely crazy. Not sure if I should be buying lottery tickets, or writing out my will.
Eat me, they've been to the WS more recently than the Orioles have, so you can shove that shit sideways with a curling brush.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2014, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 12:06:34 AM
Still though - I cannot believe the motherfucking Royals are winning playoff games. I was 10 years old the last time this happened. I turn 40 next year. This is absolutely crazy. Not sure if I should be buying lottery tickets, or writing out my will.
Eat me, they've been to the WS more recently than the Orioles have, so you can shove that shit sideways with a curling brush.
So much hate... :console:
For all of the superior outfielding as America's Favorite TeamTM, KC sure has some sloppy infield play.
Sigh.
Eat me, BB. Go punt on 3rd down or something. <_<
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2014, 07:34:22 PM
Sigh.
Eat me, BB. Go punt on 3rd down or something. <_<
^_^
Just crazy. Royals now extend their playoff winning streak to nine games going back to '85. Take a 2-0 series lead. What's bizarre is how they're now doing it with lots of big hits, which is the opposite of what brought them here.
Doesn't really seem sustainable, but I'll take it. :cool:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2014, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 12:06:34 AM
Still though - I cannot believe the motherfucking Royals are winning playoff games. I was 10 years old the last time this happened. I turn 40 next year. This is absolutely crazy. Not sure if I should be buying lottery tickets, or writing out my will.
Eat me, they've been to the WS more recently than the Orioles have, so you can shove that shit sideways with a curling brush.
Look on the bright side--at least you ain't a Cubs fan.
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Doesn't really seem sustainable, but I'll take it. :cool:
Baseball is about streaks, but this has been ridiculous. One would expect the law of averages to bring them down to the mean, but it's not. Hope it drops like a fucking anvil.
Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2014, 12:03:03 AM
I might be reacting a bit emotionally and not rationally...
Nah. DOOOOMED.
DOOOOMED
Los Gigantes!!
I'll take Bum over Kershaw any day.
wow!
I hope each individual Giant chokes on a separate bag of dicks.
Cards just can't have a nice, boring, postseason blowout win. No, they have to make it as dramatic as possible. And it's awesome to score in 5 separate innings, but maybe more than a run at a time? But I guess I'll take the win.
If Yadi's out for the series I think that gives the Giants a bit of an edge.
Quote from: sbr on October 13, 2014, 01:23:44 AM
I hope each individual Giant chokes on a separate bag of dicks.
:lol:
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Doesn't really seem sustainable, but I'll take it. :cool:
It will end tonight. I won't prognosticate on the overall series, but if the Royals won't win with the pitcher they're starting tonight. If they do, then I'll take it as proof that they have some serious voodoo going on in the dugout.
I was looking forward to tonight's game... :(
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2014, 10:04:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Doesn't really seem sustainable, but I'll take it. :cool:
It will end tonight. I won't prognosticate on the overall series, but if the Royals won't win with the pitcher they're starting tonight. If they do, then I'll take it as proof that they have some serious voodoo going on in the dugout.
Well, you're right about them not winning tonight...
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2014, 07:02:23 PM
I was looking forward to tonight's game... :(
Choke on a separate bag of dicks.
Piece from Schoenfield over at ESPN:
QuoteHow a rainout could affect the rotations
Here's how the rotations and schedule lined up prior to the rainout:
Game 3, Oct. 13: Wei-Yin Chen versus Jeremy Guthrie
Game 4, Oct. 14: Miguel Gonzalez versus Jason Vargas
Game 5, Oct. 15: Chris Tillman versus James Shields
Game 6, Oct. 17: Bud Norris versus Yordano Ventura
Game 7, Oct. 18: Chen versus Guthrie
The biggest impact of tonight's game being rained out wouldn't come until a potential Game 7. Game 3 starters Chen and Guthrie would be lined up to start that game on three days of rest (Oct. 16 becomes the date for Game 5 instead of a travel day).
If Orioles manager Buck Showalter and Royals manager Ned Yost don't want to start those two guys on short rest, then you'd be looking at each team's No. 5 starter going in Game 7: That's Kevin Gausman for the Orioles and Danny Duffy for the Royals (Ubaldo Jimenez isn't on the Baltimore roster this series). Of course, Gausman has been used as a vital piece of the Baltimore bullpen, so he's more likely to be used at some point than Duffy.
Chen on three days of rest -- with an all-hands-on-deck approach from the relievers -- wouldn't be the worst option. Of course, the Orioles have to get there first. And that's if nothing nutty happens between now and then. Part of what made the 2004 ALCS such a classic series was that two extra-inning games between the Red Sox and Yankees and a rainout before Game 3 created havoc once Game 7 rolled around because some starters had been used in relief. The Yankees started Kevin Brown on three days' rest and he got knocked out in the second inning. The Red Sox started Derek Lowe on two days' rest and he was magnificent, allowing one run and one hit in six innings.
Guthrie over Vargas? Discuss
This was an interesting decision because Vargas, not Guthrie, started Game 1 of the division series against the Angels. And it was mildly surprising because Vargas pitched six innings against the Angels and allowed two runs (both were homers). Usually in the postseason, managers stick with what has worked, so you would have thought that Vargas would be the guy lined up to get a possible second start in the series. Guthrie also hasn't pitched since Sept. 26, so the two-week layoff could be a good thing or a bad thing or a nothing thing.
Of course, both are similar pitchers (except Guthrie is right-handed and Vargas is left-handed). Both are low-strikeout guys who give up home runs. Their opponents' batting lines were basically identical this year:
Guthrie: .272/.323/.406
Vargas: .267/.310/.403
Slight edge to Vargas.
It looks like the difference is Guthrie was better against right-handers, so starting him gives the Royals a better chance of neutralizing the Orioles' right-handed power of Nelson Cruz, Adam Jones and Steve Pearce. The numbers versus righties:
Guthrie: .241/.291/.310
Vargas: .266/.311/.419
That means Guthrie has a big platoon split, as lefties hit .297 and slugged .480 against him. Finally, Vargas had a 2.73 ERA on the road and 4.53 at home, which is kind of odd because Kansas City is considered a good park for fly ball pitchers. Either way, it's probably a toss-up and you can make the argument that Duffy is the guy who should be starting this game regardless.
You guys see the commercial during the NLCS for Guinness American Style Blonde Lager?
WTF??
I don't drink, but I find that offensive.
Los Gigantes!!
Goddamn.
Sigh.
Wow. Just... wow. :worthy:
:worthy: :worthy: :worthy:
I didn't get to see as much of that one as I'd have liked, but I saw innings 6-9. :cool:
If my Thursday trial gets adjourned (and defence has an application to do so tomorrow) I might just "work from home" tomorrow afternoon. :shifty:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 14, 2014, 10:12:40 PM
Wow. Just... wow. :worthy:
You should never have given up on the Royals, BA. :hug:
Are you kidding? BA giving up on them was just what the Royals needed.
Oh - Royals now have a 10 game postseason winning streak going. :cool:
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
Are you kidding? BA giving up on them was just what the Royals needed.
This. :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2014, 10:15:08 PM
Well we will always have 1983.
We'll always have April. You know, when Manny Machado and Matt Weiters were healthy, Chris Davis was hitting more home runs and less Ritalin, and their most expensive crown jewel off-season acquisition was actually on the fucking team.
I blame Peter Asbestos.
Dudes - the series is not over yet. Does no one else remember the 2004 ALCS? :ph34r:
The Royals thing was cute at first but it has gone way too far.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
Dudes - the series is not over yet. Does no one else remember the 2004 ALCS? :ph34r:
That happens to other teams.
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
The Royals thing was cute at first but it has gone way too far.
It's become obnoxious. All that's missing is a monkey.
QuoteFamed Kansas City burger joint Westport Flea Market has been running a "1985" deal of late to celebrate the Royals' playoff success, and KCTV reporter Courtenay DeHoff dropped by Friday morning for a live shot from the restaurant's kitchen. That's where proprietor Joe Zwillenberg informed DeHoff that "I would love to see my meat in your mouth."
DeHoff's response was perfect, though we won't spoil it for you here.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/man-tells-tv-reporter-i-would-love-to-see-my-meat-in-y-1645426530
So I make arrangements to "work from home" today to catch the game.
All the playoff games have been on cable channel Sportsnet. I turn on Sportsnet - I see an advertisement for the game, but after the commercial it's showing... darts.
:grr:
Found the game - on the little-used Sportsnet360 channel. Why it wouldn't be on their main channel escapes me.
So I call the cable company to add the channel (or rather, a whole bundle of channels, for $10 *sigh*), and they offer me a callback in 20+ minutes.
<_<
Been watching it on my phone at work. MURICA
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2014, 04:26:02 PM
Been watching it on my phone at work. MURICA
Once I finally got them on the phone, the had it hooked up in under a minute.
And then they offered to tell me how I could watch it on my phone too. :showoff:
Best news of course... Royals leading. :ph34r:
Here we go - top of 9, Royals leading 2-1.
3 outs remaining...
:ph34r:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
World Series Baby!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Vamly and Seedy. Shame it had to be the O's dreams who were crushed. :console:
And just for those who care - that's 11 straight playoff wins. The record is 12, which the Yankees did, once in the 20s, and then again in the 70s. :ph34r:
Grats on coming in second!
Oh, fuck you guys.
Only in this bullshit Royals-cock-sucking media frenzy is 1985 actually longer ago than 1983.
I hope the National League fucks Kansas City with a pine tarred bat. If it's the Cardinals, and they bring Joaquin Andujar out of retirement to bean the fuck out Alex Gordon.
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
Just stop, Beeb.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
So have the Royals...
Bluto: why do the Giants boo AJ Pierzynski?
His brief time with team he didn't endear himself with fans.
Did he do or say something insulting?
Anyway, the Cards have to be closing in on some postseason record for single shot home runs. Heaven forbid they do that with runners on base.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
Seriously? :x
What a long-ass game. And still only the 6th inning. I have this agonizing feeling like the Cards are playing from behind. Despite their one run advantage, they just keep giving the Giants chances to take the lead.
And there it is. Fuck. I just wanted to win one game in San Francisco, so they can have a shot at home. Watch them lose tomorrow as well. Never would have thought fielding would do them in.
I guess the O's can at least claim they won an AL East Championship. That's certainly quite an achievement for this franchise.
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
Seriously? :x
They won the pennant in '97, and were the wild card in '96 and 2012.
Compared to KC's postseason history since '85, that sounds like a lot to me.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
Seriously? :x
They won the pennant in '97, and were the wild card in '96 and 2012.
Compared to KC's postseason history since '85, that sounds like a lot to me.
Do you go tell Cub Fans they should be happy because of all their playoff appearances as well? Anyway they did not win the Pennant in '97 and thank you for bringing up such a painful memory.
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2014, 10:02:32 PM
And there it is. Fuck. I just wanted to win one game in San Francisco, so they can have a shot at home. Watch them lose tomorrow as well. Never would have thought fielding would do them in.
Jebus - the game isn't even over yet.
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Um the o's have had multiple playoff appearances since '83...
Seriously? :x
They won the pennant in '97, and were the wild card in '96 and 2012.
Compared to KC's postseason history since '85, that sounds like a lot to me.
Do you go tell Cub Fans they should be happy because of all their playoff appearances as well? Anyway they did not win the Pennant in '97 and thank you for bringing up such a painful memory.
Only if they were to try a "oh woe is me" act to a Royals fan. But in general I thought loser franchise fan bases should stick together and hate on the Yankees.
And my mistake - Division Title in '97, not pennant. Sorry.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
Only if they were to try a "oh woe is me" act to a Royals fan.
Um the Royals kicked the O's ass. It is not a fucking act I was sad to see it. You have two more Pennants than the O's have since 1983. Why do you have to be a jerk? You won, I would like to congratulate the Royals and wish them well but it seems you just want to rub it in.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
And my mistake - Division Title in '97, not pennant. Sorry.
Thank you :P
But hey the O's have won 2 division titles in 31 years, we are practically spoiled.
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 10:21:03 PM
Um the Royals kicked the O's ass.
That's true, isn't it. *giggles*
:console: Sorry, won't mention it again.
Thank you. Now I hope they go beat the NL to at least make this whole thing worthwhile.
Why did that Giants runner leave from 3rd on a grounder with first base open?
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
Dudes - the series is not over yet. Does no one else remember the 2004 ALCS? :ph34r:
No we do not. We deny it and cast it out with the other abominations that have no place in the true Pastime like "Red Sox Nation", "Cowboy Up" and vaginal-pubic-like beard growths.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 15, 2014, 11:13:25 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
Dudes - the series is not over yet. Does no one else remember the 2004 ALCS? :ph34r:
No we do not. We deny it and cast it out with the other abominations that have no place in the true Pastime like "Red Sox Nation", "Cowboy Up" and vaginal-pubic-like beard growths.
Minsky, the Kansas City Royals are in the World Series. There is no "true Pastime" anymore - what's down is up. We're in an era where cats and dogs live together in harmony, together with some terrible hipster beards and words shaved into ballplayers heads. :ph34r:
Los Gigantes!!!
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
Thank you. Now I hope they go beat the NL to at least make this whole thing worthwhile.
Fuck them and their 8-0 bullshit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 15, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
Thank you. Now I hope they go beat the NL to at least make this whole thing worthwhile.
Fuck them and their 8-0 bullshit.
11 straight wins thank you very much. :contract:
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 10:16:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2014, 10:02:32 PM
And there it is. Fuck. I just wanted to win one game in San Francisco, so they can have a shot at home. Watch them lose tomorrow as well. Never would have thought fielding would do them in.
Jebus - the game isn't even over yet.
Yes, as a matter of fact it was.
Go Royals, fuck all of you's.
Go Expos, :(
Aaaand I'm calling this one. Cards are the only down by 1 in the 3rd, but its as good as over. I was hoping the Cards would at least force a Game 6 at home.
Congrats, Bluto. Hope your boys crush the blue menace.
Okay yeah two HRs in the 4th inning but wtf do it with runners on for once, guys.
Quote from: Barrister on October 15, 2014, 11:43:18 PM
Minsky, the Kansas City Royals are in the World Series. There is no "true Pastime" anymore - what's down is up. We're in an era where cats and dogs live together in harmony, together with some terrible hipster beards and words shaved into ballplayers heads. :ph34r:
It's true - Royals are supposed to follow their true destiny of losing to the Yankees in ALCS. But that got screwed up when they left the AL West for the "Central Division" as part of the various changes that undid the entirety of Western Civilization.
LOS GIGANTES!!
Quote from: katmai on October 16, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
LOS GIGANTES!!
You mean, "The New York Giants, temporarily playing in San Francisco," surely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BjqDBNWCbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BjqDBNWCbc)
Quote from: Syt on October 16, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 16, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
LOS GIGANTES!!
You mean, "The New York Giants, temporarily playing in San Francisco," surely?
71 years in New York
56 and counting in San Francisco, pretty long ass temporary stay in city by the Bay.
They and the Dogders are going to come back. Some day. Maybe. :(
It's Gameday. :ph34r:
Yes, yes it is.
Fairy tale is ending.
Let's hope so. Tired of their bullshit. There's only one Miracle on Ice.
:whistle:
Just remember Kat, my guys get to go to the Series next year.
If the Giants win the series I can live with that.
It's time to retire God Bless America.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
It's time to retire God Bless America.
The reason that they started signing it during the 7th inning stretch was to help quell alcohol-fueled rowdiness during the later part of games. There's no real reason to broadcast it.
Really? I thought it was a NYC-911 thing.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
Really? I thought it was a NYC-911 thing.
That's why they started broadcasting it.
Gotcha.
Quote from: dps on October 21, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
The reason that they started signing it during the 7th inning stretch was to help quell alcohol-fueled rowdiness during the later part of games. There's no real reason to broadcast it.
Shows how little I follow baseball, I thought they sang "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch.
Every Baseball game I have ever been to we have :hmm:
Maybe this is just a World Series thing.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 21, 2014, 10:37:27 PM
Shows how little I follow baseball, I thought they sang "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch.
I thought that was just the Cubbies.
Will you cock knockers stfu about 7th inning stretch and focus on the best franchise since 2010
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 21, 2014, 10:37:27 PM
Shows how little I follow baseball, I thought they sang "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch.
I thought that was just the Cubbies.
Nah every team does it AFAIK. Certainly all my local teams do.
Quote from: katmai on October 21, 2014, 10:42:34 PM
Will you cock knockers stfu about 7th inning stretch and focus on the best franchise since 2010
Sorry it was the most compelling part of the game.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:42:16 PM
I thought that was just the Cubbies.
I distinctly remember hearing "root, root, root for the Cardinals" at some point.
But yeah, it's most closely associated with Harry Caray I think.
I hope you are proud of yourselves Giants. Somewhere George Brett is crying like a little girl!
Los Gigantes!! :w00t:
Maybe only local stations broadcast Take Me Out, which is why I've never heard it at another park.
Well that was less than encouraging.
Agree on God Bless America - sing it if you want, but why broadcast it?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
Maybe only local stations broadcast Take Me Out, which is why I've never heard it at another park.
Every ballpark sings that, it's just rarely televised. WEBN used to always televise it because Harry Caray led the song but I can't think of other instances where it has been televised.
And in Cincy they say "root, root root for the Redlegs..." I sing "Cardinals" to mess with their mojo :menace:
And the God Bless America thing needs to be retired. I understand why it started the year of and following 9/11, but we already have the national anthem. But people at the games seem to like it, so I guess give them what they want.
Do all ballparks bring in guests to sing it too?
All you godless communists need to be reported to the Feds.
Those CGI player names on the field have to go. :yucky:
Quote from: derspiess on October 22, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
Maybe only local stations broadcast Take Me Out, which is why I've never heard it at another park.
Every ballpark sings that, it's just rarely televised. WEBN used to always televise it because Harry Caray led the song but I can't think of other instances where it has been televised.
Not every ballpark. :P Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 22, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
I've always wanted to catch a game there. After reading that, not so much anymore.
Quote from: dps on October 22, 2014, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 22, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
I've always wanted to catch a game there. After reading that, not so much anymore.
:P It's a tradition, used to be Edward Bennett Williams' favorite song, so they played it for years when the team would take the field for the first inning. Peter Asbestos brought it back a few years ago for the 7th inning stretch.
Well this game is a little more interesting. :ph34r:
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
Well this game is a little more interesting. :ph34r:
Make that VERY interesting! :yeah:
Well that's one down for the good guys. :cool:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 22, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Not every ballpark. :P Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
How long have they been doing that? I have zero memory of it.
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2014, 10:43:12 PM
Well that's one down for the good guys. :cool:
Yeah, well now comes the hard part :contract:
I was hoping the Cards would win just one game in San Fran, to give them a shot to win the last two at home. That didn't happen.
Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 22, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Not every ballpark. :P Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
How long have they been doing that? I have zero memory of it.
They played it until the early 80s when EBW died, and it disappeared when Jacobs the Hateful Jew bought the team, and then Angelos brought it back--maybe the late 90s? Early 2000s?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 23, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 22, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Not every ballpark. :P Camden Yards sings "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" during its 7th inning stretch.
How long have they been doing that? I have zero memory of it.
They played it until the early 80s when EBW died, and it disappeared when Jacobs the Hateful Jew bought the team, and then Angelos brought it back--maybe the late 90s? Early 2000s?
I think the last O's game I attended was around 2002. So maybe after that.
Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2014, 10:43:12 PM
Well that's one down for the good guys. :cool:
Yeah, well now comes the hard part :contract:
I was hoping the Cards would win just one game in San Fran, to give them a shot to win the last two at home. That didn't happen.
I never said this was going to be easy. :ph34r:
It's just that after game 1 I think all of the Royals fans had a feeling of 'the clock has to strike 12 on every Cinderella story...", and that perhaps the Giants were going to show that the Royals were nothing more than a fluke. But no, they showed they do belong. :)
Besides, all I wanted was for the Royals to win the Wildcard game - the last few weeks have been pure gravy for me. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on October 23, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2014, 10:43:12 PM
Well that's one down for the good guys. :cool:
Yeah, well now comes the hard part :contract:
I was hoping the Cards would win just one game in San Fran, to give them a shot to win the last two at home. That didn't happen.
I never said this was going to be easy. :ph34r:
It's just that after game 1 I think all of the Royals fans had a feeling of 'the clock has to strike 12 on every Cinderella story...", and that perhaps the Giants were going to show that the Royals were nothing more than a fluke. But no, they showed they do belong. :)
They won one game-- don't get ahead of yourself. If they end up winning 3 games then they belong.
QuoteBesides, all I wanted was for the Royals to win the Wildcard game - the last few weeks have been pure gravy for me. :cool:
The 2001 me called-- he wants his shtick back :P
All joking aside, although I'm not rooting for the Royals I'm glad for you that they've done so well. Enjoy the ride.
Quote from: Barrister on October 23, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
Besides, all I wanted was for the Royals to win the Wildcard game - the last few weeks have been pure gravy for me. :cool:
Dude...I call bullshit. When are the Royals likely to be in this spot again?
Quote from: Valmy on October 23, 2014, 11:42:08 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 23, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
Besides, all I wanted was for the Royals to win the Wildcard game - the last few weeks have been pure gravy for me. :cool:
Dude...I call bullshit. When are the Royals likely to be in this spot again?
2043. :(
But no - when they made the playoffs I told myself "I just really want them to win the wildcard - just one game doesn't really feel like 'the playoffs'".
But of course I want them to win now. Only three games away after all. :ph34r:
Tampa bay manager Joe Maddon opted out of his contract and is now a free agent.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/maddon-excises-opt-wont-return-171611741--mlb.html
QuoteST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) -- Joe Maddon's highly successful run as manager of the Tampa Bay Rays is over.
After discussions on a new deal bogged down with the Rays, Maddon is now free to listen to offers from any club - a prospect the manager apparently found too difficult to resist.
Tampa Bay announced Friday that Maddon had exercised an opt-out clause in his contract. The Rays had expected to have him in their dugout at least through 2015, when his contract was due expire.
''We are turning the page to begin a process to look for a new manager,'' Rays president of baseball operations Matt Silverman said. ''It's going to be a deliberate and comprehensive search, including both internal and external candidates.''
Maddon managed the Rays for nine seasons, compiling a 754-705 record. Tampa Bay made the playoffs four times, won two AL East titles and appeared in the 2008 World Series.
He did not immediately return a telephone message from The Associated Press.
The 60-year-old did tell the Tampa Bay Times that leaving the Rays after nine seasons was a gut-wrenching decision.
''I have been doing this for a long time,'' Maddon told the newspaper. ''I have never had this opportunity to research my employment on my terms. Never, never, never. And I think anybody given the same set of circumstances would do the same thing.''
The departure is second major loss for the team in less than two weeks. Executive vice president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman left for the Los Angeles Dodgers on Oct. 14.
Friedman assembled the teams that Maddon guided in transforming the Rays from perennial losers into a club that had six consecutive winning seasons before finishing 77-85 this year.
''There's a lot of work to be done this offseason, and this certainly adds to all that's on our plate,'' Silverman said.
''The last time we went looking for a manager was nine years ago and we did a pretty good job finding Joe,'' Silverman added. ''There's no timetable. It will take us as long as we need to get the right guy. There's no shortcuts here.''
Silverman, who took over for Friedman after serving as team president for a decade, said Maddon's contract contained a clause that allowed to opt-out under certain conditions, including Friedman leaving the Rays.
Friedman's exit raised immediate questions about whether he might try to lure Maddon to the Dodgers when the manager's contract expired after next season.
Friedman said last week that Don Mattingly will remain in Los Angeles to manage the Dodgers in 2015.
He reiterated that stance Friday after learning Maddon had become available earlier than anticipated.
''As I said last week, Joe and I enjoyed a tremendous relationship working together in Tampa Bay and I wish him nothing but the best wherever his next stop will be,'' Friedman said in a statement. '' However, nothing has changed on our end. Don Mattingly will be our manager next season and hopefully for a long time to come.''
Silverman described himself as ''surprised'' and ''disappointed'' by Maddon's decision, adding he and Sternberg were optimistic about the chances of retaining the manager when talks began.
''I believe Joe wanted to be the manager of the Rays long term. That was my intention and Stu's intention. We dove head-first into discussions, but it takes two parties to reach an agreement,'' Silverman said.
''I'm very comfortable with the financial offers that we made Joe. They were very generous,'' Silverman added. ''He listened to those and chose to opt-out.''
There's no way the Cardinals will have the stones to replace Matheny this year, unfortunately.
Despite what the article says I bet 100 internet dollars Maddon ends up managing the Dodgers next year.
And Adam Wainwright had "minor" elbow surgery today. :(
QuoteST. LOUIS • That irritation that Adam Wainwright had throughout most of the season behind his right elbow and sometimes led him to "manipulate" the back of the joint to feel more comfortable on the mound has been addressed.
Wainwright had a surgical procedure done Friday on the backside of his pitching elbow, multiple sources have confirmed. Wainwright was said to have had the "ligament trimmed" in his right elbow, a Cardinals official said. The exact description was cartilage trimmed to avoid irritation in that area, subsequent reporting on the surgery by The Post-Dispatch confirmed.
The club confirmed the surgery was done Friday.
General manager John Mozeliak said it was the second opinion that led the procedure. It was performed by Dr. George Paletta.
In an official release made shortly after 4 p.m. St. Louis time, the Cardinals described the procedure as "a minor arthroscopic procedure earlier today to trim a small piece of cartilage from his right elbow."
Mozeliak said the surgery would have no impact on Wainwright's 2015 season.
The pitcher should be ready to resuming a throwing program in eight weeks, the team said in its official statement. That would give Wainwright plenty of time to get ready for spring training, and the righthander was already expected to have a reduced schedule coming into spring training to save mileage on his arm.
Earlier this week, Mozeliak said that Wainwright had an MRI on the irritated joint and went through a battery of tests a week ago. The results of those exams, the Cardinals said, resulted in a diagnosis that no surgical procedure was necessary to alleviate his discomfort. Rest was prescribed.
After Monday's press conference had happened, Wainwright sought a second opinion which resulted in Friday's surgery.
The Cardinals' starter first had troubles back in June with his elbow, and he received treatment from Paletta at the time. He pitched through a difficult August before winning the National League's pitcher of the month award for September. He went 5-0 that month with a 1.38 ERA, which was nearly four runs better than his ERA in August.
In the postseason, Wainwright needed 200 pitches to complete his first nine innings of work -- over two starts. Both revealed signs of discomfort and fatigue. In his final start of the postseason, Game 5 of the National League championship series, Wainwright pitched seven strong innings and allowed two runs while striking out seven. He had insisted that a mechanics issue had been resolved.
His trouble with the elbow and mechanics date back to a knee injury in New York during the first six weeks of the season. It's not uncommon for a pitcher's delivery to be compromised by one injury and have it lead to others because of the increased strain on other joints.
Check back here for more on this story as it develops.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/wainwright-has-surgery-to-address-elbow-irritation/article_920cf81e-a8aa-59d4-b599-437ba936b967.html
Royals up by 1 after 7 innings. :ph34r:
:yeah: :yeah:
Royals are two wins away from being champions of the world. :ph34r:
Los Royals! :P
Quote from: Barrister on October 24, 2014, 10:48:20 PM
Les Royales. :contract: :frog:
:w00t:
Allez les Royales!
All tied up. :ph34r:
Not any more. :(
:console:
11-4. I'm turning this one off. Here's hoping for tomorrow's game.
Chances are looking good for heading to KC up 3-2 with Bum pitching tomorrow.
Quote from: katmai on October 25, 2014, 10:54:38 PM
Chances are looking good for heading to KC up 3-2 with Bum pitching tomorrow.
The Cardinals were up 3-2 going back to KC in 1985. Just saying.
I didn't say the Giants would win series just feel good of them being up 3-2. You Marylander.
This thread has saved me so many times.
Cardinals 22 year old outfielder Oscar Tavaras was killed in a car accident in the Dominican republic. :(
Well the good news is after Bumgarner goes for nine innings I'd think it unlikely the Giants try to bring him back on short rest for game 7.
Los Gigantes :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
Yeah I'm uneasy about our prospects for Starters these next two games so wouldn't be shocked by Royals pulling out two at home to win series.
Quote from: sbr on October 26, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
Cardinals 22 year old outfielder Oscar Tavaras was killed in a car accident in the Dominican republic. :(
Man how horrible. He was a very promising prospect. I do not know his specific situation but he was on the verge of changing his family forever.
Quote from: Valmy on October 26, 2014, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 26, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
Cardinals 22 year old outfielder Oscar Tavaras was killed in a car accident in the Dominican republic. :(
Man how horrible. He was a very promising prospect. I do not know his specific situation but he was on the verge of changing his family forever.
:( He grew up in Montreal.
Still kind of in shock over Taveras. Really sucks what happened.
In other baseball news, I think my son's favorite baseball player is now Sandoval :mellow:
Quote from: katmai on October 26, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
Yeah I'm uneasy about our prospects for Starters these next two games so wouldn't be shocked by Royals pulling out two at home to win series.
Yeah - certainly not predicting anything but it's not impossible for the Royals to still win this back at home.
Quote from: Barrister on October 27, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 26, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
Yeah I'm uneasy about our prospects for Starters these next two games so wouldn't be shocked by Royals pulling out two at home to win series.
Yeah - certainly not predicting anything but it's not impossible for the Royals to still win this back at home.
If the Royals relievers regain their mojo they have a chance. The Giants' bats are just too hot right now, though.
Quote from: derspiess on October 27, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 27, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 26, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
Yeah I'm uneasy about our prospects for Starters these next two games so wouldn't be shocked by Royals pulling out two at home to win series.
Yeah - certainly not predicting anything but it's not impossible for the Royals to still win this back at home.
If the Royals relievers regain their mojo they have a chance. The Giants' bats are just too hot right now, though.
It's the Royals starters I'm worried about. They don't have great middle relief, so they need their starters to get into 5-6 while keeping the Royals in the game.
Goddamnit.
I was expecting shit game as Peavy didn't match up vs Royals well.
One game to decide the champion of the world?
Holy Moly :o
Moustakas is a home run machine. :ph34r:
10-0 Royals. :yeah:
Largest World Series shutout since:
1985. :cool:
Here comes game seven. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
I've had no faith in the Royals doing this since some time in August (you can go back in this thread and check), so I won't start now. :ph34r:
Apparently Jose Canseco shot his left middle finger off while cleaning his gun tonight. :lmfao:
Quote from: sbr on October 28, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
Apparently Jose Canseco shot his left middle finger off while cleaning his gun tonight. :lmfao:
You can't make this shit up.
3-2 Giants after 6. This game is not disappointing. :ph34r:
Pitching is off the hook. There is no tomorrow.
Bum's performance is great and all, but they're forgetting what Gibby did in 1964.
Bumgarner is so dominating it almost doesn't look fair. This is the kind of thing you hear about pitchers in the 20s doing.
Going to bottom of 9, 3-2 Giants. :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
Here we go. Three outs to live for the Royals.
Congrats to the Giants once again.
Sorry BB nothing in sports sucks quite like this. :(
Yea for my dad's team! And congrats to Bluto you spoiled brat. Sorry for Beeb. Great Series overall.
Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2014, 10:29:50 PM
Congrats to the Giants once again.
Sorry BB nothing in sports sucks quite like this. :(
Well that was an intense three hours or so. I had myself contorted into some kind of pretzel shape on the couch during the bottom of the ninth. And it was setting up so beautifully for some bottom of the ninth heroics too. :(
But hell man - the Royals so grossly exceeded expectations that I can't be too disappointed. Hell they taught me to love baseball again. I've barely even watched any Jets games - the Royals were playing, man.
So here's hoping that this run means the Royals have turned a page, and they're contenders over the next few years. :)
Quote from: derspiess on October 29, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
Yea for my dad's team! And congrats to Bluto you spoiled brat. Sorry for Beeb. Great Series overall.
The Giants are just coming off a 56 year drought, they were due.
And even though order was restored to the universe, you still my condolences, BB. Hell of a (2nd half of a) year for KC, and that bullpen is a beast.
Bum is a machine with ice in his veins, though. I don't think his heart rate went above 45. Guy's a killer.
Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2014, 10:34:46 PM
So here's hoping that this run means the Royals have turned a page, and they're contenders over the next few years. :)
This is what I am trying to console myself with the Orioles right now :P
Hopefully we are both right. But the Yankees and Sox will not be down long
Or they could go like the Rockies, blowing straight through the playoffs and the WS, only to disappear into obscurity, never to be heard from again.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 29, 2014, 10:36:54 PM
And even though order was restored to the universe, you still my condolences, BB. Hell of a (2nd half of a) year for KC, and that bullpen is a beast.
Bum is a machine with ice in his veins, though. I don't think his heart rate went above 45. Guy's a killer.
Yeah that was quite a performance. Also a reason I can't be too disappointed - Royals didn't beat themselves, they were just beaten by some amazing pitching.
Oh, definitely. The Giants won, and the Royals almost won.
Quote from: derspiess on October 29, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
Yea for my dad's team! And congrats to Bluto you spoiled brat. Sorry for Beeb. Great Series overall.
hey I had to wait 37 years for them to win one!
Los Gigantes!!!!!
Missed game as was out filming on location. Will enjoy watching the tivo
It felt like rooting for an ex-girlfriend to do well, but I was solidly rooting for the Royals. Hell of a finish to what was a mostly awful 7 game series. I definitely feel that with better plate discipline the Royals could have abused MadBum when he came in, but they haven't had that all year. In the end, I'm glad that a fantastic game 7 was had as well as that a quality, well built team won. In theory that could have gone for either squad, which is a nice change. It wasn't the matchup of one or two top dollar teams, but two great small ball, old school teams. Props to the Giants and my condolences to the Royals. With Joe Maddon signing with the Cubbies, we may very well see Back to the Future II pan out with an insane Cubbies win next year. Regardless, I look forward to the coming season and will once more take my place in the trenches with The Tribe.
How many pitches did Bumgardner throw in the strike zone in the 9th? Maybe two?
Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2014, 10:39:32 PM
Yeah that was quite a performance. Also a reason I can't be too disappointed - Royals didn't beat themselves, they were just beaten by some amazing pitching.
Great pitching, yes, but someone should probably explain to Perez that the strike zone doesn't extend up to his forehead.
Quote from: katmai on October 29, 2014, 11:43:39 PM
hey I had to wait 37 years for them to win one!
Still spoiled. And remember it's the Cards' turn to win the NLCS next year. Your boys can take the year off and be fresh for 2016.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 30, 2014, 03:28:52 AM
It felt like rooting for an ex-girlfriend to do well,
Now why in the wide wide world of sports would you ever do that?
Would have been great see Gordon go for home.
As for KCR as a whole, yeah they lost but that team has a lot to be proud of.
Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2014, 10:34:46 PM
So here's hoping that this run means the Royals have turned a page, and they're contenders over the next few years. :)
This is what I am trying to console myself with the Orioles right now :P
Hopefully we are both right. But the Yankees and Sox will not be down long
While it is no doubt going to always be a tough division, my biggest concern if I were an Orioles fan would be whether or not my 3rd baseman is going to keep hurting himself every year. Well, actually, I guess my biggest worry would be the owner doing something stupid.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 30, 2014, 09:56:56 AM
Would have been great see Gordon go for home.
It would be interesting to see the angle of the 3rd base coach watching the left fielder boot it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 30, 2014, 09:56:56 AM
Would have been great see Gordon go for home.
It would be interesting to see the angle of the 3rd base coach watching the left fielder boot it.
They were analyzing that pretty closely on Mike & Mike this morning. The concensus seems to be that an accurate throw would have gotten him, but that they should have tried for it given how well Bumgarner had been pitching.
Where was the runner when LF booted the ball? Rounding 2nd?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
Where was the runner when LF booted the ball? Rounding 2nd?
Probably-- I don't remember. They were saying he wasn't running full speed even to first, thinking that it would be a routine bloop single and took a couple seconds to realize it had gotten past Blanco.
Quote from: derspiess on October 30, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
They were analyzing that pretty closely on Mike & Mike this morning. The concensus seems to be that an accurate throw would have gotten him, but that they should have tried for it given how well Bumgarner had been pitching.
Yup.
There were already 3 fielder miscues on that one play, so it's not crazy to think something might have gone awry on the throw to the plate.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 30, 2014, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 30, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
They were analyzing that pretty closely on Mike & Mike this morning. The concensus seems to be that an accurate throw would have gotten him, but that they should have tried for it given how well Bumgarner had been pitching.
Yup.
There were already 3 fielder miscues on that one play, so it's not crazy to think something might have gone awry on the throw to the plate.
If he gets thrown out though the game is over. Holding on three is the right call.
Quote from: Barrister on October 30, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
If he gets thrown out though the game is over.
Yeah, but letting Bumgarner have another crack at out #3 is game over too.
How crushingly deflating would that have been to the Royals had he been thrown out by a mile?
The 3rd base coach would enter Royals infamy.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 30, 2014, 12:38:18 PM
How crushingly deflating would that have been to the Royals had he been thrown out by a mile?
The 3rd base coach would enter Royals infamy.
I don't think he'd have been out by a mile. It could have been close. In fact, a throw just a little off the mark (or via the relay man) could have meant the tying run. I don't fault the third base coach for holding him and I wouldn't fault him for sending him.
One thing's for sure, though. Had that been Billy Hamilton running the bases, he would have been sent home, he'd be safe and it wouldn't even be close. That fucker is fast. Just happens to be on a different team :D
Quote from: derspiess on October 30, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
They were analyzing that pretty closely on Mike & Mike this morning. The concensus seems to be that an accurate throw would have gotten him, but that they should have tried for it given how well Bumgarner had been pitching.
I'm still not sold on Bumgarner as pitching well last night. I think it was a lot of the Royals psyching themselves out and swinging at horrible pitches they had no business swinging at. If they had simply sat their bats on their shoulders, especially in his first inning, the Royals could have walked in the tying and winning runs. The only strikes he was getting were swinging strikes on balls and very, very generous called strikes out of the zone.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 30, 2014, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 30, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
They were analyzing that pretty closely on Mike & Mike this morning. The concensus seems to be that an accurate throw would have gotten him, but that they should have tried for it given how well Bumgarner had been pitching.
I'm still not sold on Bumgarner as pitching well last night. I think it was a lot of the Royals psyching themselves out and swinging at horrible pitches they had no business swinging at. If they had simply sat their bats on their shoulders, especially in his first inning, the Royals could have walked in the tying and winning runs. The only strikes he was getting were swinging strikes on balls and very, very generous called strikes out of the zone.
Yeah - by the 9th inning it didn't seem like he was hitting the strike zone very well...
Quote from: Barrister on October 30, 2014, 02:55:55 PM
Yeah - by the 9th inning it didn't seem like he was hitting the strike zone very well...
He didn't have to, and in fact he was probably pitching out of the strike zone on purpose. If they're willing to chase it at eye level or outside, then you pitch there.
What you are describing is evidence that he was pitching very well indeed; his delivery and movement was deceptive enough to get batters chasing and the umpires to widen the zone. That's the very definition of successful pitching, unless you are just going to blow people away with gas or use a trick pitch (knuckler, cutter).
BTW Brian Burke estimates the breakeven success for Gordon to go at 30 percent:
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/research/other-sports/106-should-the-royals-have-sent-gordon
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 30, 2014, 03:19:50 PM
What you are describing is evidence that he was pitching very well indeed; his delivery and movement was deceptive enough to get batters chasing and the umpires to widen the zone. That's the very definition of successful pitching, unless you are just going to blow people away with gas or use a trick pitch (knuckler, cutter).
Not his first inning. He definitely took a bit to settle in.
Nate Silver's take: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/send-alex-gordon/
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 30, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
Not his first inning. He definitely took a bit to settle in.
True he didn't look sharp that first inning in.
Quote from: derspiess on October 30, 2014, 03:23:48 PM
Nate Silver's take: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/send-alex-gordon/
Meh, I dunno. Those are some pretty iffy projections. While there was some serious bootage in the outfield to get Gordon into position, by the time he would've been given the green light for home, Brandon Crawford already had the ball in shallow center/left.
He wouldn't have been just gunned down at home, he would've been executed.
And with the new rules regarding catcher collisions, 220 lbs of the Gordon Express, knowing he's toast, plowing into the very catcher whose injury caused the rules change in order to force the ball loose would've been an Ole Miss kind of ending.