NFL Offseason Thread

[Grey Fox]

Katmai, the week has passed.

[Neil]

Katmai, the week has passed.

Guess what:  The season doesn't start for another five weeks.

[Grey Fox]

My point exactly.

[Neil]

You know, I'm getting pretty tired of Roger Goodell.  He's shooting his mouth off about Michael Vick, who he's conditionally reinstated.  The guy was busted for dogfighting, which isn't a serious crime at all.  Don't be an ass.

[sbr]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4359354

NEW YORK -- Michael Vick is back in the NFL. Now all he needs is a team to play for.

Vick, free after serving 18 months in prison for running a dogfighting ring, was reinstated with conditions by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday. He could participate in regular-season games as early as October.

Vick can immediately take part in preseason practices, workouts and meetings and can play in the final two preseason games -- if he can find a team that will sign him. A number of teams have already said they would not.

Once the season begins, Vick may participate in all team activities except games, and Goodell said he would consider Vick for full reinstatement by Week 6 (Oct. 18-19) at the latest.

According to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, a source close to Vick expressed "shock" over the severity of Vick's punishment and said Vick will reapply for full reinstatement as early as Week 1.

Goodell suspended Vick indefinitely in August 2007 after the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation on his property in Virginia. At the time, Goodell said Vick must show remorse before he would consider reinstating him.

"I accept that you are sincere when you say that you want to, and will, turn your life around, and that you intend to be a positive role model for others," Goodell said in his letter to Vick. "I am prepared to offer you that opportunity. Whether you succeed is entirely in your hands."

"Needless to say, your margin for error is extremely limited," the letter said. "I urge you to take full advantage of the resources available to support you and to dedicate yourself to rebuilding your life and your career. If you do this, the NFL will support you."

Vick, once the highest-paid player in the league, said he was grateful for a second chance.

"I would like to express my sincere gratitude and appreciation to commissioner Goodell for allowing me to be readmitted to the National Football League," Vick said in a statement released by his agent, Joel Segal. "I fully understand that playing football in the NFL is a privilege, not a right, and I am truly thankful for the opportunity I have been given.

"As you can imagine, the last two years have given me time to revaluate my life, mature as an individual and fully understand the terrible mistakes I have made in the past and what type of life I must lead moving forward."

The announcement came after a busy first week of freedom for Vick, who met with union leaders and Goodell on consecutive days last week. His 23-month federal sentence ended when an electronic monitor was removed from his ankle early on July 20 at his home in Hampton, Va.

He met with DeMaurice Smith, executive director of the NFL Players Association, last Tuesday and, on Wednesday, he sat down with Goodell at a security firm in Allendale, N.J.

Goodell suggested that preventing Vick from playing at the start of the regular season wasn't a punishment but an opportunity for the quarterback to gradually make a transition back into the league.

"I have thought about every alternative, but I think this gives him the best chance for success," Goodell said. "We are not looking for failure here. We are looking to see a young man succeed."

But Vick's issues are far from over and he needs a team to call his own. Already, the owners of the New York Giants and New York Jets said they have no interest in the 29-year-old quarterback, who was officially released by the Falcons last month.

Vick filed for bankruptcy protection last July, listing assets of about $16 million and debts of more than $20 million, and has a hearing about his plan to repay his creditors on Friday in Newport News, Va. That plan is built around his ability to make NFL-type money again.

He's unlikely to command anything close to the 10-year, $130 million contract he once had with the Falcons, or to get endorsement deals after the grisly details of his involvement in the dogfighting ring.

Vick finally pleaded guilty after his three co-defendants had already done so. They told of how Vick participated in the killing of dogs that didn't perform well in test fights by shooting, hanging, drowning or slamming them to the ground.

Vick's appearances at federal court in Richmond, Va., all came with large groups of protesters outside. Many were with PETA and held signs depicting photographs of Pit Bulls ravaged in dogfights and decrying the brutality in the gruesome details that emerged in the case.

A smaller group came to show support for Vick wearing jerseys with his No. 7.

Vick has already taken some steps to begin rebuilding his image and showing remorse.

He met with the president of the Humane Society of the United States while serving the first 18 months of his federal sentence in the prison at Leavenworth, Kan. He plans to work with HSUS in a program designed to steer inner city youth away from dogfighting. He was not permitted to work with the program while in custody.

"I know that he's thrilled, and I'm happy to have the process moving in the right direction," NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said.

"It's been a long process," Segal added. "He's thrilled for the opportunity to resume his playing career. He understands he has a lot to prove."

[CountDeMoney]

You know, I'm getting pretty tired of Roger Goodell.  He's shooting his mouth off about Michael Vick, who he's conditionally reinstated.  The guy was busted for dogfighting, which isn't a serious crime at all.  Don't be an ass.

Fuck Oogie.  Country ass nigger deserved more than what he got.

[Sophie Scholl]

Know what I'd love to see?  Favre dick around even longer, and then say he is ready to come back.  Which will then be promptly followed by the Vikings saying that they've moved on, but he's free to look elsewhere.  Fucker.  I hope he gets paralyzed if he plays.  He has so totally destroyed his legacy it's amazing.

[katmai]

Sorry foxy, my pop is in town till tomorrow.

[Neil]

You know, I'm getting pretty tired of Roger Goodell.  He's shooting his mouth off about Michael Vick, who he's conditionally reinstated.  The guy was busted for dogfighting, which isn't a serious crime at all.  Don't be an ass.

Fuck Oogie.  Country ass nigger deserved more than what he got.

For dogfighting?  Fuck off.  He deserved a slap on the wrist.

[Alcibiades]

For dogfighting?  Fuck off.  He deserved a slap on the wrist.

You live in a country of savages.   

[MadBurgerMaker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxMsC3ny8g

Christ.

Edit:  NFL Network is showing that Fins - Jets game from 2000.  Heh heh.

[Vince]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxMsC3ny8g

Christ.

Edit:  NFL Network is showing that Fins - Jets game from 2000.  Heh heh.

The Monday Night Miracle.   

One of the few bright spots for NY in the Jets - Fins rivalry. 

[Valmy]

One of the few bright spots for NY in the Jets - Fins rivalry. 

I don't really recall that many great things happening for the Fins either since 1974.

[Neil]

Favre has said that he's not coming back.

[Barrister]

Too bad - it would have been fun to have Favre wearing purple.

But I heard faint rumblings that the Vikings should now go after Vick.  No fucking way.  I'll take Sage or Tavaris over Vick any day.  It has nothing to do with dog-killing, but everything to do with being a shitty quarterback who'se been away from the game for 2 years.