QuoteWeek One NFL Football Point Spread - NFL Spreads 9/4 - 9/8, 2014
Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog
9/4 8:35 ET At Seattle -5 Green Bay
9/7 1:00 ET New Orleans -3 At Atlanta
9/7 1:00 ET At St. Louis -3.5 Minnesota
9/7 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -6.5 Cleveland
9/7 1:00 ET At Philadelphia -10.5 Jacksonville
9/7 1:00 ET At NY Jets -5.5 Oakland
9/7 1:00 ET At Baltimore -1.5 Cincinnati
9/7 1:00 ET At Chicago -7 Buffalo
9/7 1:00 ET At Houston -3 Washington
9/7 1:00 ET At Kansas City -3 Tennessee
9/7 1:00 ET New England -4.5 At Miami
9/7 4:25 ET At Tampa Bay -2.5 Carolina
9/7 4:25 ET San Francisco -4.5 At Dallas
9/7 8:30 ET At Denver -7.5 Indianapolis
Monday Night Football Point Spread
9/8 7:10 ET At Detroit -6 NY Giants
9/8 10:25 ET At Arizona -3 San Diego
QuoteNFL Commissioner Roger Goodell recently informed team owners of increased league penalties for domestic violence or sexual assault. Another player has been added to the list of cases that potentially may fall under that disciplinary system.
Wide receiver Quincy Enunwa, a practice squad player with the New York Jets, was arrested Sunday in Florham Park, N.J., on a charge of simple assault following an alleged domestic violence dispute with his girlfriend, according to the Florham Park Police Department.
Enunwa, 22, was arrested at 7:19 p.m. ET while staying at the Wyndham Hamilton Park Hotel, according to a police press release. He was transported to the police headquarters, where he was processed and released on his own recognizance pending further court action.
"This is something we take very seriously, obviously, and we're aware of it. And again, I'm not going to comment further on details or anything else because it is a pending legal matter," Jets Coach Rex Ryan said Thursday at his post-practice press conference.
San Francisco 49ers Coach Jim Harbaugh said this week that he would not have a player who had been convicted of domestic violence on his team. Ryan was asked if he felt the same.
"There's different things, but obviously there's a big difference from being charged, allegedly charged, whatever and convicted. So again, I'm not going to get into what ifs or anything like that," said Ryan.
Ryan said he was uncertain whether the Jets learned of the arrest before Enunwa was signed to the practice squad Tuesday. He said he has been focused on the opener against the Oakland Raiders.
"I don't want to get specifics. ... I don't want to give you false information," he said.
Also Sunday, defensive tackle Ray McDonald of the San Francisco 49ers was arrested on domestic violence charges following an alleged incident at his 30th birthday party.
Last week Goodell sent team owners a letter saying that under the NFL's personal conduct policy violations involving domestic violence or sexual assault would merit a six-game suspension for a first offense and an indefinite suspension of at least one year for a second offense.
"These steps are based on a clear, simple principle: domestic violence and sexual assault are wrong. They are illegal," Goodell wrote. "They have no place in the NFL and are unacceptable in any way, under any circumstances. That has been and remains our policy.''
Running back Ray Rice has begun a two-game suspension imposed by the NFL in a case involving domestic violence. That disciplinary action was handed down before the league announced increased penalties.
And from the "Who In The What, Now?" file...
Quote
Former NFL wide receiver Donte Stallworth, who played for the Ravens in 2010 and spent the summer as a coaching intern with the team, joined the Huffington Post last night as a politics fellow covering national security, the site announced.
Another jewel in the Huffpost's crown.
:lol:
Bengals are shitty.
Goddamn, season is finally here. Tommy and I were outside throwing the football for about an hour before gametime. He can finally reliably throw and catch :)
And I'm not responding to Ed's troll.
Not trolling. Setting expectations.
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I don't know.
Ickey Woods finally got a GEICO commercial!
Seattle seems faster than last year. Green Bay is playing their 5th preseason game.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 04, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
Seattle seems faster than last year. Green Bay is playing their 5th preseason game.
This game had beat down written all over it and even so this is pretty impressive. Seattle is a monster.
It's a good thing that the Seattle defense took a series off at the end of the 1st to let GB score a TD because there would be outrage this morning if not.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 05, 2014, 07:29:12 AM
It's a good thing that the Seattle defense took a series off at the end of the 1st to let GB score a TD because there would be outrage this morning if not.
:huh:
It was a BEATDOWN
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2014, 10:33:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 04, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
Seattle seems faster than last year. Green Bay is playing their 5th preseason game.
This game had beat down written all over it and even so this is pretty impressive. Seattle is a monster.
They're a monster at home. Away they're not as dominant.
I think teams will start to figure out their little twists on offense, too. Defenses are simply too smart and too fast, adapting to unconventional strategeries quickly.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/bengals-re-sign-devon-still-to-help-him-pay-for-daughter-s-cancer-treatments-090514
The Brown family is nothing if not loyal.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2014, 10:23:31 AM
I think teams will start to figure out their little twists on offense, too. Defenses are simply too smart and too fast, adapting to unconventional strategeries quickly.
You also need to stop their defense. Aaron Rodgers spent an entire game never looking to his right.
That's bullshit right there, though. He's just a man, not a force field.
That is true. The could have alteast tried to throw on his side of the field.
I could understand if it were some rookie QB, but with Aaron Rodgers you shouldn't shy away.
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2014, 11:00:01 AM
I could understand if it were some rookie QB, but with Aaron Rodgers you shouldn't shy away.
Rodgers just doesn't seem to have the same precision as the year after the Superbowl. His accuracy really has never been the same since his concussion at Detroit that year they almost went undefeated.
Bengals TE's elbow just...didn't...look...right. Definitely some kind of dislocation. Barf.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 12:40:49 PM
Bengals TE's elbow just...didn't...look...right. Definitely some kind of dislocation. Barf.
Yeah, that was gross.
It looked...inside-out. :x
Bengals offense looks crisp. Don't think even they can keep shooting themselves in the foot, though.
LOL, Joe Flacco impersonates Vinny Testaverde, highlights after the weather!
Would help if his receivers figured out how to hold on to the ball. But that brain fart at the end of the half was inexcusable.
Hmm.
I'll take it.
Quote from: derspiess on September 07, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Would help if his receivers figured out how to hold on to the ball. But that brain fart at the end of the half was inexcusable.
So was the brain fart at the end of the game. How do you not recognize a strong side stack blitz and not adjust for it? Oh, well. Bengals tried their damnedest to let it get away, but the Ravens wouldn't let them. :lol:
How about that Romo?
Hyde!
Bummed that the Bears didn't win, but on the up side I'm - at least for the moment - leading the LFFL in fantasy points this week. :showoff:
Quote from: katmai on September 07, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
How about that Romo?
Certainly playing like he got a contract extension.
Quote from: katmai on September 07, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
How about that Romo?
What a piece of shit he is. I knew I should have started Big Ben.
Holy shit its Hanz and Franz
Just saw the replay of the punt return where that Steelers player kicks the Browns punter right in the face. That's some crazy shit there.
Quote from: katmai on September 07, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
How about that Romo?
The Cowboy fans sure have a lot of excitement about Romo and Jerruh don't they?
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That's amazing.
:lol: Then again, don't discount the Niner fanbase; ever since Montana-to-Clark, the Niners are one of those teams where there's a fan under every rock.
QuoteQuarterback Joe Flacco didn't try to put a positive spin on the team's near comeback against the Bengals. "We just played about as bad as you can in terms of just simple fundamental things -- throwing, running routes, staying up, just running the ball, couple mental busts," Flacco said about the offense that managed 97 yards and no points in the first half. Flacco also kicked himself for running out of time in the first half, which didn't give the Ravens a chance at a field goal. "That was probably the stupidest play I've ever made in football," he said.
I love local sports radio, especially right after a game. Had one guy call in so apoplectic, you'd think today was the AFC Championship that finally blew out his aneurysm. Radio host was like, "Dude, 16 teams will win this week, and 16 teams will lose. Including the New England Patriots. Relax already." Guy was in a rage over Terrell Suggs when he dropped the phone. :lol:
Of course, there were the "We should bench Flacco for Tyrod Taylor" callers, more than usual. I expect to hear that all week.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
Of course, there were the "We should bench Flacco for Tyrod Taylor" callers, more than usual. I expect to hear that all week.
I thought that was more of a racist thing though.
I think we have forgotten one of the most important things today:
Belicheat lost.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
I think we have forgotten one of the most important things today:
Belicheat lost.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Neil on September 07, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
Of course, there were the "We should bench Flacco for Tyrod Taylor" callers, more than usual. I expect to hear that all week.
I thought that was more of a racist thing though.
No, it's more of a "running QBs work in Madden, so why not real life" thing. But Baltimore's always had a fetish for back-up quarterbacks. STONEY CASE FTW
Quote from: fhdz on September 07, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
I think we have forgotten one of the most important things today:
Belicheat lost.
:thumbsup:
I assume Kraft is having his assistant beat a hooker so he can get it up after that loss
That wasn't a very good QB sneak.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 07, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
Of course, there were the "We should bench Flacco for Tyrod Taylor" callers, more than usual. I expect to hear that all week.
I thought that was more of a racist thing though.
No, it's more of a "running QBs work in Madden, so why not real life" thing. But Baltimore's always had a fetish for back-up quarterbacks. STONEY CASE FTW
Ah, OK. I just don't remember all the backup hype when Bulger was the guy.
You can expect a new wave of Ray Rice hate, now that TMZ has released the video from the elevator.
Oh, boy...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 06:22:09 AM
You can expect a new wave of Ray Rice hate, now that TMZ has released the video from the elevator.
Oh, boy...
Poor guy was really sorry about the whole thing and can't catch a break :(
He looks bad, but the cops, courts and commissioner looks worse. They all saw that video already.
The video doesn't look good....
Does he punch her at the end, or is he pushing her face away....with force.... and it unfortunately hits the bar?
Looks to me like he slaps her and her head hits the elevator wall and bar. Not that it really matters at this point.
You watch, the league's going to either roll back his suspension to 6 games, or the Ravens themselves will extend it to 6 games.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
Looks to me like he slaps her and her head hits the elevator wall and bar. Not that it really matters at this point.
Yeah, it was ugly no matter how you slice it.
QuoteYou watch, the league's going to either roll back his suspension to 6 games, or the Ravens themselves will extend it to 6 games.
:lol: Yeah, right.
I'm telling you, this kind of PR nightmare, somebody's going to do something. The league's a little hamstrung with what to do, what with the CBA and whatnot, but the Ravens took no disciplinary action against him, so there's wiggle room on their end.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
It looked...inside-out. :x
Bengals offense looks crisp. Don't think even they can keep shooting themselves in the foot, though.
From the camera angle I couldn't figure out how it got dislocated even though it obviously was. All I saw was that it looked like he got hit in that area. It was apparently how he landed on it.
DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK if you get queasy from seeing someone's elbow bend the wrong way: http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/9/7/6119417/bengals-believe-tyler-eifert-has-dislocated-elbow
Tweet from Dan Wetzel, I think he is with Yahoo:
QuoteTxt'ing with team officials around NFL, they predict Ravens will cut Ray Rice. "Have to." Not sure anyone would pick him up.
Bah, that's bullshit right there.
Cutting him, and he's a $9.5m in dead cap next year, and $4.75m in dead cap space in 2016. She wasn't hit as hard as the cap would be.
I know right? He just gave the bitch what she had coming.
She was lunging at him.
If you're going to bring the smack, you better bring some ass with it.
STAND MAH GROUND
Ain't nobody above an asswhuppin'.
Chris Mortenson reports they released him.
Yep confirmed everywhere now.
Sigh.
Daaaaaamn
Wow. He got away very light with the 2 game suspension, but that was what all affected parties agreed to. As ugly as the video was, is any of it really new information?
And the league has now suspended him indefinitely
Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Wow. He got away very light with the 2 game suspension, but that was what all affected parties agreed to. As ugly as the video was, is any of it really new information?
It's about PR and damage control now. They'll call it "the right thing", but it's really about damage control; shit, you saw how bad
The View took it before, imagine the fallout with this video.
Mort even mentioned DV groups were going to mobilize over the video this AM. No way Biscotti was going to tolerate that kind of distraction, and he is very protective of the Ravens and their place in the community. He's definitely a zero-tolerance kind of guy.
Looks like Flacco's going to break his attempts record this season. :lol:
Local nobody tweeted this:
QuoteNot sure why people are shocked at the Rice video? We knew he hit her, what did you think it would look like? Didn't need video to judge him
The unfortunate consequence of all this is that black women all across America are free to act like a damned fool with their mans now.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
Looks like Flacco's going to break his attempts record this season. :lol:
Forsett looked good when he was in yesterday. I guess he's too small to be an every down back but what the hell, give him a shot. And I'm sure Pierce will get a chance to redeem himself.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
The unfortunate consequence of all this is that black women all across America are free to act like a damned fool with their mans now.
Be careful out there.
I just picked up Forsett in 2 leagues, including LFFL.:p
Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
Looks like Flacco's going to break his attempts record this season. :lol:
Forsett looked good when he was in yesterday. I guess he's too small to be an every down back but what the hell, give him a shot. And I'm sure Pierce will get a chance to redeem himself.
Yeah, he looked sharp and decisive, didn't dawdle when he made a decision, but he was also running against a defense that was protecting a lead. Pierce will get his carries, but I think Taliaferro will wind up getting more of the carries as the season wears on, just a lot to put on a rookie right now.
Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
The unfortunate consequence of all this is that black women all across America are free to act like a damned fool with their mans now.
Be careful out there.
A flip flop can kill a man if you hit him right.
Do you have to brandish the flip flop beforehand?
:lol:
I wonder if New Jersey is going to terminate the contract of the prosecutor that accepted a diversionary plea.
Stay classy, Fox & Friends! :lol:
QuoteNew low for Fox & Friends: Joking about Ray Rice elevator assault
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/09/08/new-low-for-fox-friends-joking-about-ray-rice-elevator-assault/?hpid=z1
"I think the message is, take the stairs."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
Cutting him, and he's a $9.5m in dead cap next year, and $4.75m in dead cap space in 2016. She wasn't hit as hard as the cap would be.
Read that it won't count against the cap and that he won't be paid anything.
How does that work exactly?
The guaranteed money in his contract was front loaded so the ravens dint owe him anything else.
The bonus money should still hit the cap, but I read something that said if the league had suspended him before they cut him they could have gotten a bunch of money back.
For the salary cap bonus money is spread along the life of the contract, so $20 million signing bonus on a 5 year deal counts for $4 million a year. Once they cut him all of the remaining money hits the cap all at once.
Thanks Ray Rice, making everybody forget my Niners own problems :P
I watched the video repeatedly. :fap:
Quote from: Alcibiades on September 08, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
Cutting him, and he's a $9.5m in dead cap next year, and $4.75m in dead cap space in 2016. She wasn't hit as hard as the cap would be.
Read that it won't count against the cap and that he won't be paid anything.
How does that work exactly?
He never made the 53 man roster for the regular season based on the first suspension, which apparently is magic.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
I think we have forgotten one of the most important things today:
Belicheat lost.
I'm still excited about that. :)
QuoteThe net effect for the Ravens' salary-cap situation, having shed Rice's five-year, $35 million contract that included $22 million in guaranteed money already paid to him through a $15 million signing bonus and a $7 million option bonus, is they're now $6.864 million under the NFL salary-cap limit of $133 million.
Next year the Ravens will absorb a $9.5 million hit in dead money against the salary cap. Through the timing of his release, Rice has essentially been designated as a post-June 1 cut with the impact of his pro-rated salary-cap figures divided between this year and next year.
Rice had remaining non-guaranteed base salaries of $3 million in 2015 and 2016 that have now been eliminated. The Ravens don't owe him any more money.
Do the Giants not know who Megatron is? You gotta cover that guy.
My LFFL team is thankful for the points tho.
You know things are going to go well when Manning calls an audible and Donnell looks over and raises both hands in the air in the universal sign language of "say what"?
They have too many hand signals that Receivers (both Wide & TEs) didn't quite catch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-never-contacted-casino-to-view-ray-rice-tape--tmz-report-122256617.html
QuoteNFL never contacted casino to view Ray Rice tape: TMZ report
In its investigations of the Ray Rice domestic-assault case from earlier this year, the NFL never asked the casino in which the assault took place for a copy of security tapes, according to a new report by TMZ. Had the NFL done so, the casino would have handed over the tapes, per the report. Instead, the tapes were leaked over a period of several months, culminating in Monday's unsettling footage that resulted in Rice's release from the Ravens.
The NFL has maintained that it had not viewed the most significant moments of the assault, the time when Rice strikes his then-fiancee Janay Palmer and renders her unconscious, until Monday. (This, despite earlier indications to multiple media outlets that the NFL indeed had seen the footage.)
Why hadn't the NFL seen the footage? They asked law enforcement but did not receive it, according to a statement released Monday: "Security for Atlantic City casinos is handled by the New Jersey State Police. Any videos related to an ongoing criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. As we said earlier today: We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until [Monday]."
However, TMZ's sources indicated that the casino had made copies of the tape for both law enforcement and Rice's attorneys, but the NFL never asked either of those two entities for copies of the tape. There are, presumably, three possible rationales here:
1. The NFL is lying about not having seen the incriminating tape.
2. The NFL had not seen the incriminating tape because its investigators did not think, or know, to ask sources other than the police for a copy.
3. The NFL knew it could have checked with other sources, but chose not to do so in order to preserve plausible deniability and avoid bringing a harsher penalty down on Rice initially.
As a result of Monday's revelations, Rice was swiftly cut from the Ravens and suspended by the NFL. While his particular situation has been resolved for the moment, the question of what commissioner Roger Goodell knew and when he knew it remains a critical one.
____
No bueno.
I call #1. There is no way they didnt see the video; the NFL's security people are as wired in as they come.
And why trust the Commissioner, this is the guy that said the "evidence" from Spygate was "destroyed".
He's a fucking lawyer, after all.
Once Belicheat is gone I think we'll learn more about Spygate. There definitely seems to be more to learn.
Olbermann's take on the Rice episode was a bit... strong.
Isn't Obermann's take on everything strong?
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 09:38:38 AM
Isn't Obermann's take on everything strong?
Yeah, but this was excessive even for him. He called on like 12 people to step down or be fire, and blamed literally everyone, including fans.
Can anyone tell me what the new video revealed that we did not know before? I mean yeah, it looked even worse than the first video but we knew he hit her hard enough to knock her out.
She was the aggressor. Bitch needed a whoopin'
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 09:38:38 AM
Isn't Obermann's take on everything strong?
Yeah, but this was excessive even for him. He called on like 12 people to step down or be fire, and blamed literally everyone, including fans.
Can anyone tell me what the new video revealed that we did not know before? I mean yeah, it looked even worse than the first video but we knew he hit her hard enough to knock her out.
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.
True.
Oh and in important commentary - from Ms. Dunham:
QuoteToday has just proven, once and for all, that I'm not missing fucking anything by not watching football.
Manatee's can't understand the 3-4 defense.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.
While you are most definitely right, I don't see what good that does us now.
It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on Women
TM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on WomenTM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.
:yes: :(
How nice that Ray Lewis is weighing in on this. He is a paragon of respect for the law and not tolerating violence.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/ray-lewis-ray-rice-ravens-espn-video
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.
While you are most definitely right, I don't see what good that does us now.
It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on WomenTM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.
Link pls.
One can be critical of the league in other matters without impugning on the importance of this one.
So go fuck yourself, Vick lover.
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:17:13 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on WomenTM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.
:yes: :(
And fuck you, too.
Quote from: Berkut on September 09, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
How nice that Ray Lewis is weighing in on this. He is a paragon of respect for the law and not tolerating violence.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/ray-lewis-ray-rice-ravens-espn-video
And fuck you, too.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-hell-of-roger-goodell--losing-face--tarnishing-the-nfl-shield-and-mudslinging-with-tmz-175952428-nfl.html
QuoteThe hell of Roger Goodell: Tarnishing the shield and mudslinging with TMZ
Roger Goodell always looked the part: tall and handsome, with the perfect blond locks and the expensive tailored suits. This guy, no doubt, casts a presence. He was trained for power, the son of a U.S. senator, raised in Westchester County affluence, joining the NFL offices right out of college with upward mobility as the end game.
He rose through the ranks, assuming the commissioner's job in September 2006 at just 47 years old, and with the title came everything: money, influence, fame, private jets, luxury boxes, an Augusta National membership, open doors everywhere he went.
This was the dream job for Goodell and he was the dream candidate for the NFL, a guy who looked so likeable on television yet would win brass knuckle, long-term labor battles and weekly discipline disputes with the players, all without getting a hair out of place.
Only now it's all come undone; now it's all falling apart for Roger Goodell.
Ray Rice, the former Baltimore Ravens running back, beat his then-fiancée last offseason in the elevator of an Atlantic City casino, and Goodell's vaunted security team and his own much-hyped hammer of discipline did little to nothing about it.
First it laid down a meager two-game suspension. Then there was a clumsy explanation. Later Goodell admitted to owners he got it wrong. Finally TMZ released a video that shocked and horrified everyone, leaving Goodell under volleys of criticism and suspicion.
To the public he was either complicit in a cover-up or just a heartless and clueless empty suit, one who didn't care about an unconscious woman after one of his players laid her out cold.
This is the scandal that Goodell never saw coming. Not for a second.
His reputation is that of a calculating and self-preserving executive but now he's been rocked by something he clearly never considered the importance of, left to find himself in a one-sided, mudslinging fight with TMZ, which everyone in Hollywood will tell you is a losing proposition.
And no matter the fancy schools, designer ties or the elite public relations consultants, among the American people if this comes down to who do you believe here, Harvey Levin is going to beat Roger Goodell almost every single time.
Goodell is unlikely to be fired by NFL owners. There is certainly no indication of that brewing, at least. Things will never be the same, though. He'll never be the same. And that's before the days ahead play out, when he must come clean with what he did and didn't do, what he did and didn't know.
TMZ is more than willing to muddy the waters here on Goodell, suggesting on Monday night that it knows two NFL employees saw the Rice footage and then saying on Tuesday morning that no one from the league asked the casino for the video.
That's what Goodell and the NFL is fighting now, trying to defend against both sides. They set themselves up here, leaving many to believe something nefarious, when the more likely explanations involve indifference and incompetence.
The commissioner is getting ripped non-stop, from the front pages of the New York tabloids to a mocking photoshopped image on TMZ of him wearing a blindfold. No one feels bad for him.
This has turned into a Nixonian scandal, what did the boss know and when did he know it.
Here's one take: Goodell would have to be one of the most callous and clueless humans in the country if he actually saw that video of Rice's left hook and still ruled as casually as he did. He has his critics, but to think he was that kind of person is a major stretch.
If nothing else he is a survivalist, a slave to his job that first and foremost entails protecting the shield. Even if he, for some reason, was unmoved by Rice's depravity, he certainly is wise enough to know this was a disaster waiting to strike and would've gone after the player full bore.
No one was going to blame the NFL for Ray Rice. They don't blame it for Aaron Hernandez. There's just no way Goodell would ever have knowingly made himself touchable here, he's too smooth and too smart for that.
His sin here, and it's no less troubling, is that neither he nor his staff took the case seriously and thus never conducted a thorough investigation. It was a dreadful mistake and they are paying for it. They were clumsy in their execution, dumb to the particulars of domestic violence and naïve about what they were assuming wasn't the truth.
They went with the flow of the case, following the lead of the victim, Janay Palmer, who went on to marry Rice anyway and downplay the incident. Experts will tell you the victim's word is never absolute, especially when the NFL reportedly interviewed Palmer and Rice together, like they expected the unvarnished truth from the victim when the bully is sitting right by her side.
They also followed the lead of the Atlantic County prosecutor, who put the case into a pretrial diversion program. It made the incident appear less severe than it was. This was a casino town prosecutor though, someone probably looking at a crime by a tourist on a tourist and just hoping to get it out of the resource-crunched system because it does nothing to improve the quality of life of the actual residents.
The NFL fell for it all though. Or it just didn't care to consider what it was missing. And thus the league didn't pursue the tape the way it should have.
Only then, in an effort to trump up the illusion of its disciplinary might, the NFL either leaked to multiple media outlets that it saw all the videos of the incident or didn't bother correcting false reports because it made it look good.
The NFL rode blind right off this cliff.
At best, this is a self-immolation based on arrogance and ignorance. At worst, it's whatever TMZ is calling it now.
Goodell is out of credibility today and that may be the most jarring thing to him. A life of creating the perfect image, of building a base power from his ability to reassure that he can be believed, that he can be fair, that he can get the job done, is crumbling because of Rice and TMZ.
He has to know so much of the public believes he's just the enabler of a wife beater. Anything said suddenly seems plausible.
His only recourse now is to lay it all out for the fans, point by painful point about what the NFL did, when it did it and why. It must come with admissions of massive mistakes along the way. He can only hope they believe him.
It will be ugly. It already is though.
Either way, Goodell may keep his job but he's lost his aura, half the world raining down on him now, more than willing to believe the worst about a guy who previously was able to sell himself as only the best.
Welcome to the first day of the rest of his life.
Self-righteous sportswriters :bleeding:
I heard some preachy dude on one of the sports talk stations say the games last night were tainted by the Rice thing and that we should all feel guilty for watching.
Dan Lebatard was about the only person making any sense today.
Did hear an interesting point that hasn't been mentioned re: Ray Rice and the elevator tape.
Somebody from the prosecutor's office pointed out that since the tape was being used as evidence for the grand jury, it would have been illegal to give it to the NFL.
They might be big, but they still don't have subpoena power.
Oh, and for the lulz: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-rice-to-be-removed-from-madden-nfl-15-according-to-report/
They should also edit him out of any photos that were ever taken of him and the team.
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 07:22:53 PM
They should also edit him out of any photos that were ever taken of him and the team.
Let's do it!
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 07:04:50 PM
Self-righteous sportswriters :bleeding:
I heard some preachy dude on one of the sports talk stations say the games last night were tainted by the Rice thing and that we should all feel guilty for watching.
Dan Lebatard was about the only person making any sense today.
There was a cunt on CNN proclaiming that women control the remote controls and the NFL is gonna pay.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
There was a cunt on CNN proclaiming that women control the remote controls and the NFL is gonna pay.
One would hope she took her bra off before burning it. Was there smoke coming from her chest while she was saying this?
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 09, 2014, 07:49:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
There was a cunt on CNN proclaiming that women control the remote controls and the NFL is gonna pay.
One would hope she took her bra off before burning it. Was there smoke coming from her chest while she was saying this?
I assume her vagina was overheating.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 07:04:50 PM
Self-righteous sportswriters :bleeding:
I heard some preachy dude on one of the sports talk stations say the games last night were tainted by the Rice thing and that we should all feel guilty for watching.
Dan Lebatard was about the only person making any sense today.
There was a cunt on CNN proclaiming that women control the remote controls and the NFL is gonna pay.
Uppity bitch someone needs to give her a left hook.
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 07:04:50 PM
Self-righteous sportswriters :bleeding:
I heard some preachy dude on one of the sports talk stations say the games last night were tainted by the Rice thing and that we should all feel guilty for watching.
Dan Lebatard was about the only person making any sense today.
There was a cunt on CNN proclaiming that women control the remote controls and the NFL is gonna pay.
Uppity bitch someone needs to give her a left hook.
:yes:
QuoteMike Vick says 'there's no room for that' about Ray Rice while NY Jets coach Rex Ryan stays silent
If there's anyone who has benefited from getting a second chance at football, it's Vick. He was suspended indefinitely by the NFL in 2007 after pleading guilty to running an illegal dog fighting operation that was so ghastly, the losers were drowned, electrocuted or shot.
While Jets coach Rex Ryan ducked the topic of a video showing Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancée unconscious, QB Michael Vick took on the subject Monday, sharing his unique perspective given his own sordid past.
Rice was cut by the Baltimore Ravens and indefinitely suspended by the NFL on Monday after TMZ released footage of Rice leveling current wife Janay Palmer in a casino elevator earlier in the day.
"It's a tough situation," Vick told the Daily News Monday. "It's very sensitive. I think we all got to realize as professional athletes that we are professionals. And we have to be able to maintain our poise in all situations, on and off the field. There's just no room for that."
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mike-vick-room-ray-rice-article-1.1933011
Woowtf?
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 09, 2014, 07:14:16 PM
Did hear an interesting point that hasn't been mentioned re: Ray Rice and the elevator tape.
Somebody from the prosecutor's office pointed out that since the tape was being used as evidence for the grand jury, it would have been illegal to give it to the NFL.
They might be big, but they still don't have subpoena power.
You do realize that's a crock of shit, don't you.
QuoteThe Ravens announced on Tuesday that they will offer fans a chance to exchange their jerseys of former star running back Ray Rice at stadium stores.
Details of the jersey exchange are pending.
Rice's No. 27 jersey was one of the Ravens' most popular jerseys, but the team terminated his $35 million contract Monday after an ugly video surfaced of him punching his then-fiancee, Janay Palmer -- now his wife -- in a casino elevator.
Rice has been indefinitely suspended by the NFL.
The New England Patriots did a similar jersey exchange last year when they cut tight end Aaron Hernandez after he was arrested and charged with murder.
Rex Ryan had no comment since Rice didn't kick her.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
QuoteMike Vick says 'there's no room for that' about Ray Rice while NY Jets coach Rex Ryan stays silent
If there's anyone who has benefited from getting a second chance at football, it's Vick. He was suspended indefinitely by the NFL in 2007 after pleading guilty to running an illegal dog fighting operation that was so ghastly, the losers were drowned, electrocuted or shot.
While Jets coach Rex Ryan ducked the topic of a video showing Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancée unconscious, QB Michael Vick took on the subject Monday, sharing his unique perspective given his own sordid past.
Rice was cut by the Baltimore Ravens and indefinitely suspended by the NFL on Monday after TMZ released footage of Rice leveling current wife Janay Palmer in a casino elevator earlier in the day.
"It's a tough situation," Vick told the Daily News Monday. "It's very sensitive. I think we all got to realize as professional athletes that we are professionals. And we have to be able to maintain our poise in all situations, on and off the field. There's just no room for that."
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mike-vick-room-ray-rice-article-1.1933011
Woowtf?
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
QuoteThe Ravens announced on Tuesday that they will offer fans a chance to exchange their jerseys of former star running back Ray Rice at stadium stores.
Details of the jersey exchange are pending.
Rice's No. 27 jersey was one of the Ravens' most popular jerseys, but the team terminated his $35 million contract Monday after an ugly video surfaced of him punching his then-fiancee, Janay Palmer -- now his wife -- in a casino elevator.
Rice has been indefinitely suspended by the NFL.
The New England Patriots did a similar jersey exchange last year when they cut tight end Aaron Hernandez after he was arrested and charged with murder.
I'd rather opt in to the place giving out free pizza.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 09, 2014, 07:14:16 PM
Did hear an interesting point that hasn't been mentioned re: Ray Rice and the elevator tape.
Somebody from the prosecutor's office pointed out that since the tape was being used as evidence for the grand jury, it would have been illegal to give it to the NFL.
They might be big, but they still don't have subpoena power.
You do realize that's a crock of shit, don't you.
Which part? That the DA's office can't give out evidence to a 3rd party or that the NFL doesn't have subpeona power?
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
I have trouble with convicted federal felons opening their mouths about anything regarding what the league has "room" for, Cunty McCuntstein.
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Which part? That the DA's office can't give out evidence to a 3rd party or that the NFL doesn't have subpeona power?
That investigators couldn't go down to the casino and request a copy of the video, or at least view it. Digital video is not subject to that sort of evidentiary control. It's not like the cops and the prosecutor's office came down to the casino and seized the server.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
I have trouble with convicted federal felons opening their mouths about anything regarding what the league has "room" for, Cunty McCuntstein.
Even after they have served their time and are free to actually be people again? At what point can anyone get their voice back? Or does it depend on who they hit and who open their mouths about?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:52:56 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Which part? That the DA's office can't give out evidence to a 3rd party or that the NFL doesn't have subpeona power?
That investigators couldn't go down to the casino and request a copy of the video, or at least view it. Digital video is not subject to that sort of evidentiary control. It's not like the cops and the prosecutor's office came down to the casino and seized the server.
I have no idea what that has to do with DSB's point, but what is what others are saying too so I suppose you are right.
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Even after they have served their time and are free to actually be people again?
Not for felons convicted of operating interstate gambling rings for 7 years with mass graves filled with animals on their properties, no.
QuoteAt what point can anyone get their voice back?
Never.
QuoteOr does it depend on who they hit and who open their mouths about?
Badgering the witness. Motion to strike upheld.
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:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
I have trouble with convicted federal felons opening their mouths about anything regarding what the league has "room" for, Cunty McCuntstein.
So there can never be rehabilitation?
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
So there can never be rehabilitation?
Not for Mick Vick, and not for you. You'll be cunty forever.
At least this distracts everybody from mocking all the hilarious propaganda the Redskins have been putting out there recently. They were spamming my twitter about how some Blackfoot dude was proud to have his skin so honored.
I guess I don't get what changed with people seeing the video. We already knew he beat the shit out of his wife, we saw him dragging her unconscious from an elevator. We just had to get indisputable video evidence? Now women are all mad and are going to boycott the NFL? Now we should be ashamed to be watching the Lions play the Giants? Why didn't all this happen way back in the summer?
*after further review the outrage on the field was insufficient*
New NFL logo for October's awareness campaign--
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
So there can never be rehabilitation?
Not for Mick Vick, and not for you. You'll be cunty forever.
At least I give more than lip service to caring about women. Is that one of your pick up artist techniques?
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
I guess I don't get what changed with people seeing the video. We already knew he beat the shit out of his wife, we saw him dragging her unconscious from an elevator. We just had to get indisputable video evidence?
Pretty sure even I spoke to this already. There's a big difference between watching a vid and just imagining the visual in your head.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
At least this distracts everybody from mocking all the hilarious propaganda the Redskins have been putting out there recently. They were spamming my twitter about how some Blackfoot dude was proud to have his skin so honored.
Not so fast, my friend!
QuoteEtsy bans Redskins name and logo
Etsy, the popular online marketplace for homemade and vintage products and other "unique goods," announced on Tuesday that it was banning the Redskins name and logo from its site, effective immediately.
"Like the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, we at Etsy find the opinion of the minority group itself to carry most weight in determining whether the mascot is disparaging," the company said in a statement posted on its blog. "In no uncertain terms, Native American groups have consistently advocated and litigated that the term 'redskin(s)' is disparaging and damaging to Native Americans. Therefore, it will no longer be permitted in our marketplace.
"We understand that fans wish to support their favorite football team, and we do not believe that fans who are attached to the mascot have any racist feeling or intent," the statement continued. "We also understand that some fans view the name and mascot as an homage to Native Americans, and we do not doubt their noble intent, but the fact remains that Native Americans themselves find the term unacceptable."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/09/09/etsy-bans-redskins-name-and-logo/?hpid=z3
QuoteI guess I don't get what changed with people seeing the video. We already knew he beat the shit out of his wife, we saw him dragging her unconscious from an elevator. We just had to get indisputable video evidence?
Just imagine how the gun control argument would've changed if they released the crime scene photos from Sandy Hook, and your average American saw what a .223 Remington does to the skull of a 6 year old child. Other than that, it's just text, just like "struck her and rendered her unconscious" without context, as g said.
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
So there can never be rehabilitation?
Not for Mick Vick, and not for you. You'll be cunty forever.
At least I give more than lip service to caring about women. Is that one of your pick up artist techniques?
I really don't see how, by calling out the NFL and the commissioner on how they have handled this issue or how they have handled other issues in the past, I have in any way endorsed Ray Rice's actions. But that's Languish for you. Enjoy your smugness, cunt.
Yeah what the hell? CdM has been on the right side this whole time, he even referred to it in the Week One thread title. I guess I missed something.
Anyway pretty sad the NFL actually has to see domestic violence to do the right thing about it. Or I guess be afraid of what will happen when other people see it.
I think garbon hasn't actually read any of CdM's posts and just assumes that since he is a Ravens fan, CdM is defending Ray Rice?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 09:32:05 PM
Not so fast, my friend!
Snyder really is the gift that keeps on giving. He has no principles at all when it comes to treating the fans right or letting his employees do their jobs but damn if he will ever budge an inch on this name stuff.
Quote from: Jacob on September 09, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
I think garbon hasn't actually read any of CdM's posts and just assumes that since he is a Ravens fan, CdM is defending Ray Rice?
I've read the jokes and the cavalier posts.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 09:47:02 PM
Yeah what the hell? CdM has been on the right side this whole time, he even referred to it in the Week One thread title. I guess I missed something.
What you missed is that Languish is full of self-righteous, overly judgmental cunts.
QuoteAnyway pretty sad the NFL actually has to see domestic violence to do the right thing about it. Or I guess be afraid of what will happen when other people see it.
Now the league's problem is they've set a precedent. Rice's assault charge was already adjudicated in legal land, and the league's actions have already shredded their own newly-minted policy.
What happens to the other two players that have outstanding DV charges in New York and San Francisco, since the official policy is apparently out the window? 6 games suspension first offense without video? But suspended indefinitely with video?
Teams can do what they want with their players, but from the league perspective, how is the Players' Association going to deal with this, and how does it fall within the guidelines of the collective bargaining agreement?
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 09, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
I think garbon hasn't actually read any of CdM's posts and just assumes that since he is a Ravens fan, CdM is defending Ray Rice?
I've read the jokes and the cavalier posts.
Good. Now give Ed his share of shit, cunt.
HEY NOW
Fuck you. Collaborator. Or should I say, collaborateur, French landowning fuck.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 09, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
I think garbon hasn't actually read any of CdM's posts and just assumes that since he is a Ravens fan, CdM is defending Ray Rice?
I've read the jokes and the cavalier posts.
Good. Now give Ed his share of shit, cunt.
What would be the point?
Your partiality and favoritism for breeders has been noted.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:22:47 PM
Your partiality and favoritism for breeders has been noted.
Ed doesn't seem to take himself seriously on Languish whereas you do.
It's been 10 years, and none of you motherfuckers have yet to figure out what I take seriously and what I don't.
:rolleyes:
*tiny violin*
I hope Tony Dungy finds room in his heart for you.
QuoteCowboys owner Jerry Jones sexually assaulted stripper: lawsuit
Oklahoma woman Jana Weckerly, 27, claims the 71-year-old made her watch another woman give him oral sex, forcibly groped her genitals and then made her sign papers promising to stay quiet. Weckerly claims the assault happened in 2009, and she took pictures that night of Jones in compromising positions with two other women.
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A former stripper filed suit against the Dallas Cowboys and owner Jerry Jones, claiming the married NFL big sexually assaulted her in 2009.
Jana Weckerly, 27, wants more than $1 million in damages after Jones kissed her, groped her genitals, made her rub his penis and forced her to watch as the businessman received oral sex from a different woman, according to the suit filed Monday night in Dallas County, Texas.
"For the Cowboys to facilitate its president in his sexual predations constitutes extreme and outrageous conduct," the suit reads. "Defendants Jerry Jones and Cowboys intentionally caused severe emotional distress to Plaintiff, and Plaintiff suffered severe injuries as a direct and proximate result."
The Ardmore, Okla. woman also claims Jones ordered her to sign documents to keep the assault secret, and that the 71-year-old bullied her "into believing that she would somehow be in trouble if she told anyone about the sexual assault."
The Cowboys owner first came under fire after sexually charged photos featuring Jones and two women appeared online last month. One shows Jones clutching a woman's breasts and another shows a different woman putting her face in Jones' crotch.
Jones has said the photos, described as a misrepresentation, were taken at a Dallas restaurant five years ago and that he was aware of their existence well before their release. but took them on her cellphone the night of the alleged assault, her lawyer, Thomas Bowers, told the Dallas Morning News.
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"After apparently too much resistance from Weckerly, Jones did what perhaps billionaires do," Bowers said in a statement to the Morning News. "He had his large personal security men lift Weckerly and the two other women from the ground and pack them out of the club."
A traumatized Weckerly is reportedly in counseling and taking medication after the incident, her lawyer said.
Quote
Jana Weckerly, 27, wants more than $1 million in damages after Jones kissed her, groped her genitals, made her rub his penis and forced her to watch as the businessman received oral sex from a different woman, according to the suit filed Monday night in Dallas County, Texas.
Poor girl.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2014, 10:56:05 PM
Quote
Jana Weckerly, 27, wants more than $1 million in damages after Jones kissed her, groped her genitals, made her rub his penis and forced her to watch as the businessman received oral sex from a different woman, according to the suit filed Monday night in Dallas County, Texas.
Poor girl.
:huh:
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 11:05:56 PM
:huh:
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 11:05:56 PM
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I didn't realize you were a Cowboys fan also.
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sbr is the Assburger lovechild of Spellus and Sheldon4Heisman.
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QuotePatriots owner Robert Kraft spoke out against domestic violence while on "CBS This Morning" on Tuesday, saying: "I think everyone that witnessed that video yesterday has to be outraged and really disgusted to see someone associated with us doing something like that us. Anyone who is a real man doesn't hit a woman."
That alone seems commendable, but of course he had more to say:
"I know our commissioner has taken some heat. I just want to say that I spoke with him (Monday) not knowing what was going to happen and knowing I was coming in here. He had no knowledge of this video. ... The way he's handled this situation himself, coming out with the mea culpa and his statement a couple of weeks ago or 10 days ago and setting a very clear policy of how we conduct ourselves in the NFL I thought was excellent. Anyone who's second-guessing that doesn't know him."
But wait. There's more.
Kraft, who claims that he is "disgusted" by Rice's act just so happens to friends with boxer Floyd Mayweather, who has a long history of domestic violence and who spent two months in jail for domestic battery.
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:lol: What have I always said about keeping the interns away from the company's social media?
QuoteAs Foodspin pointed out, DiGiorno Pizza created some chaos with its use of the #WhyIStayed hashtag in a company tweet Monday night. The hashtag is used by domestic violence victims, to tell why they stayed in abusive relationships.
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After it took heat for its inappropriate use of the hashtag, the company sent out this:
A million apologies. Did not read what the hashtag was about before posting.
— DiGiorno Pizza (@DiGiornoPizza) September 9, 2014
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
I have trouble with convicted federal felons opening their mouths about anything regarding what the league has "room" for, Cunty McCuntstein.
But Ray Lewis weighing in is ok, of course?
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 12:32:35 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
Having trouble with the revelation that women > dogs?
I have trouble with convicted federal felons opening their mouths about anything regarding what the league has "room" for, Cunty McCuntstein.
But Ray Lewis weighing in is ok, of course?
Of course. Not a convicted federal felon. Duh.
This thread and the "jokes" make me sick.
Are you going to be as sick watching two-time rapist Ben Roethlisberger take the field Thursday night? I know I will be.
:mellow:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
Are you going to be as sick watching two-time rapist Ben Roethlisberger take the field Thursday night? I know I will be.
Make that the week 2 thread title.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
Are you going to be as sick watching two-time rapist Ben Roethlisberger take the field Thursday night? I know I will be.
Is he a convicted felon?
Yeah, you know this thing got wacky when a frozen pizza company gets snarled up in the mess.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
Now we should be ashamed to be watching the Lions play the Giants?
I saw that game; it was rather shameful.
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 08:20:04 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
Are you going to be as sick watching two-time rapist Ben Roethlisberger take the field Thursday night? I know I will be.
Is he a convicted felon?
Ben beats women on the inside. With his dick.
I'm guessing Lesean McCoy can expect a spitburger at some point in his future:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/lesean-mccoy-leaves-20-cent-tip-philly-burger-joint-article-1.1932597
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 10:11:19 AM
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Are you going to be as sick watching two-time rapist Ben Roethlisberger take the field Thursday night? I know I will be.
Is he a convicted felon?
Ben beats women on the inside. With his dick. isn't a Baltimore Raven.
FYP
For shame, Jeffrey. Allowing your Ray Lewis hate to cloud your judgment about a serial rapist. Tsk, tsk.
Breaking News: Atlantic City law enforcement totally assfucks NFL.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 05:13:44 PM
Breaking News: Atlantic City law enforcement totally assfucks NFL.
How?
Saying they sent the tape to the NFL in April. NFL claims they never saw it. What did the Commissioner know and when did he know it?
It's funny watching Seedy pretend to be outraged that the NFL may have tried to do for Rice what he has done for Lewis for years.
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
It's funny watching Seedy pretend to be outraged that the NFL may have tried to do for Rice what he has done for Lewis for years.
Is there a video of Lewis?
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
It's funny watching Seedy pretend to be outraged that the NFL may have tried to do for Rice what he has done for Lewis for years.
What outrage?
Your fetishistic fascination for Ray Lewis when the rest of the world has moved on reflects very poorly on you, Berkut. You racist fucktard.
I hope Tony Dungy finds room in his heart for you.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
It's funny watching Seedy pretend to be outraged that the NFL may have tried to do for Rice what he has done for Lewis for years.
Is there a video of Lewis?
I dunno what Berkut's problem is with somebody who was charged, had a trial, found guilty, fined by the league and paid out on wrongful deathsuits for obstruction, while rapists, convicted federal felons and vehicular manslaughters keep right on playing. Shit, Leonard Little killed s many people with a car as Laura Bush did, didn't hear a peep out of Berkut, Sword of Justice.
Oh, I know: he's a self-righteous indignant asshole with hang-ups over Miami.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Saying they sent the tape to the NFL in April. NFL claims they never saw it. What did the Commissioner know and when did he know it?
They have voicemail confirmation of the receipt of the tape from the league office.
Goodell will be unemployed by the end of the week, and then all of Spygate will come to light.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Saying they sent the tape to the NFL in April. NFL claims they never saw it. What did the Commissioner know and when did he know it?
Too bad it is too soon to play the at this point, what difference does it make card. :(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
It's funny watching Seedy pretend to be outraged that the NFL may have tried to do for Rice what he has done for Lewis for years.
Is there a video of Lewis?
I dunno what Berkut's problem is with somebody who was charged, had a trial, found guilty, fined by the league and paid out on wrongful deathsuits for obstruction, while rapists, convicted federal felons and vehicular manslaughters keep right on playing. Shit, Leonard Little killed s many people with a car as Laura Bush did, didn't hear a peep out of Berkut, Sword of Justice.
Oh, I know: he's a self-righteous indignant asshole with hang-ups over Miami.
You sure do get tense when people point out your...shall we say...inconsistent? concern about the law when it comes to your team?
I am perfectly consistent - I think they should all be punished according to the severity of their crimes - not just the ones who don't play for the Ravens.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Saying they sent the tape to the NFL in April. NFL claims they never saw it. What did the Commissioner know and when did he know it?
They have voicemail confirmation of the receipt of the tape from the league office.
Goodell will be unemployed by the end of the week, and then all of Spygate will come to light.
Yes, lets focus on how the league handled your Raven beating the shit out of his fiancee. That is the important point.
It makes no sense for the NFL to have seen the tape and then pretend they hadn't. Was sticking their head in the sand supposed to magically make the tape disappear?
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Saying they sent the tape to the NFL in April. NFL claims they never saw it. What did the Commissioner know and when did he know it?
They have voicemail confirmation of the receipt of the tape from the league office.
Goodell will be unemployed by the end of the week, and then all of Spygate will come to light.
Yes, lets focus on how the league handled your Raven beating the shit out of his fiancee. That is the important point.
That is the scandalous part of this story.
There's lots of things about this that don't make sense; no matter what the truth is, it will be weird.
Major media outlets have been reporting since the spring that the NFL saw the video before they punished Rice, but no one ever contradicted that until Monday when the video was released. Why wouldn't the NFL shoot those reports down immediately?
I could see a situation where the league saw the video, still only suspended Rice for the 2 games and assumed that that video would never become public. Once it did Goddell just started burying himself in lies. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but I could see it.
Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:44:13 PM
You sure do get tense when people point out your...shall we say...inconsistent? concern about the law when it comes to your team?
I am perfectly consistent - I think they should all be punished according to the severity of their crimes - not just the ones who don't play for the Ravens.
Please find these inconsistencies. sbr and Cunty McCuntenstein couldnt seem to find them, maybe you can.
It made no sense if they were trying to sweep this under the rug why they gave Rice such a laughably low suspension. If they had just suspended him for the year none of this follow up would have occurred. Incompetence at every level at protecting the NFL brand and the values it wants to represent.
For example the Redskins just tweeted to me that: "The name of our football team is the name of our football team. It means Pride, Respect. It's that simple."
:bleeding: When was the last time Snyder's team played with any pride and won any respect? Well ok that might not be the #1 problem with that tweet.
Quote from: sbr on September 10, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
There's lots of things about this that don't make sense; no matter what the truth is, it will be weird.
Major media outlets have been reporting since the spring that the NFL saw the video before they punished Rice, but no one ever contradicted that until Monday when the video was released. Why wouldn't the NFL shoot those reports down immediately?
I could see a situation where the league saw the video, still only suspended Rice for the 2 games and assumed that that video would never become public. Once it did Goddell just started burying himself in lies. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but I could see it.
There are two videos.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 10, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
There are two videos.
Yes. Everybody meant the outside the elevator video when they wrote the story in the spring.
No. Peter King for sure, and another major media member that I can't remember at the moment, both reported that the NFL saw the in-elevator video before punishing Rice.
Everyone has seen the first video released of Rice dragging her out of the elevator.
Quote from: sbr on September 10, 2014, 07:15:44 PM
No. Peter King for sure, and another major media member that I can't remember at the moment, both reported that the NFL saw the in-elevator video before punishing Rice.
Wow. How juicy.
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Quote from: Berkut on September 10, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
Yes, lets focus on how the league handled your Raven beating the shit out of his fiancee. That is the important point.
That is the scandalous part of this story.
Apparently not.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2014, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 10, 2014, 07:15:44 PM
No. Peter King for sure, and another major media member that I can't remember at the moment, both reported that the NFL saw the in-elevator video before punishing Rice.
Wow. How juicy.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-nfl-domestic-violence-video-peter-king/
QuoteTo: Our readers.
From: Peter King, editor-in-chief, The MMQB
An addendum to the Ray Rice coverage:
Earlier this summer a source I trusted told me he assumed the NFL had seen the damaging video that was released by TMZ on Monday morning of Rice slugging his then-fiancée, Janay Palmer, in an Atlantic City elevator. The source said league officials had to have seen it. This source has been impeccable, and I believed the information. So I wrote that the league had seen the tape. I should have called the NFL for a comment, a lapse in reporting on my part. The league says it has not seen the tape, and I cannot refute that with certainty. No one from the league has ever knocked down my report to me, and so I was surprised to see the claim today that league officials have not seen the tape.
I hope when this story is fully vetted, we all get the truth and nothing but the truth.
They had to have seen it? :yeahright:
Lol thanks for making things even worse, Peter King.
Peter King's just following orders.
From who?
DAMN Ray Rice is on my fantasy football team at work...waste of a pick!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2014, 10:56:05 PM
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Jana Weckerly, 27, wants more than $1 million in damages after Jones kissed her, groped her genitals, made her rub his penis and forced her to watch as the businessman received oral sex from a different woman, according to the suit filed Monday night in Dallas County, Texas.
Poor girl.
:huh: WTF? Are you serious?
Quote from: sbr on September 10, 2014, 09:46:39 PM
From who?
The NFL. It's no secret he's been a shill for the league for years.
JT The Brick was the guy who was going on & on Tuesday about how the Monday night games were tainted. On my drive home yesterday I briefly listened to him talk about how nobody at the Thursday Night game will be thinking about football & that the Ray Rice episode will weigh on everyone's minds. I think he also went ahead and pronounced that all week 2's games will be tainted. After about 2 minutes I couldn't listen to any more of it.
Oh Lord, Dan Patrick has the NOW president on his show right now. I love Dan but WTF, don't feed the monster.
According to this NOW chick, domestic violence is a big part of the culture of the NFL. Dan did sort of call her out for not making any attempt to reach out & work directly with the NFL.
Of course it is; it's the extension of the jock culture of accommodation for athletes and their ability to avoid accountability that goes all the way back through colleges to high school. It's all about bitches and hoes.
So stop defending Ray Rice.
Dan's penis was ritually sacrificed to Vaginacunticus, the Misandry goddess.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2014, 09:23:33 AM
Of course it is; it's the extension of the jock culture of accommodation for athletes and their ability to avoid accountability that goes all the way back through colleges to high school. It's all about bitches and hoes.
So stop defending Ray Rice.
I love football as much as anyone, but in the end it's just a game. Slappin' bitches & hoes may be a part of some other culture, but it's not in "the NFL culture".
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2014, 09:23:33 AM
Of course it is; it's the extension of the jock culture of accommodation for athletes and their ability to avoid accountability that goes all the way back through colleges to high school. It's all about bitches and hoes.
So stop defending Ray Rice.
I love football as much as anyone, but in the end it's just a game. Slappin' bitches & hoes may be a part of some other culture, but it's not in "the NFL culture".
So are you saying there is no NFL culture or that this particularly distasteful element isn't part of NFL culture?
Derspeiss parties with professional athletes, so he knows what's down after hours at the clubs.
Spicy is busy clipping Mike Brown's coupons.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
Spicy is busy clipping Mike Brown's coupons.
TRUE FACT: I once drove his (free from the dealership) car to a dealership to have a (free from the NFL) Sirius radio installed.
Quote from: garbon on September 11, 2014, 09:46:51 AM
So are you saying there is no NFL culture or that this particularly distasteful element isn't part of NFL culture?
I am sort of questioning the existence of an NFL culture. If it exists, it's pretty minimal.
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
Spicy is busy clipping Mike Brown's coupons.
TRUE FACT: I once drove his (free from the dealership) car to a dealership to have a (free from the NFL) Sirius radio installed.
:lol:
He tip you a quarter afterwards?
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2014, 10:22:38 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
Spicy is busy clipping Mike Brown's coupons.
TRUE FACT: I once drove his (free from the dealership) car to a dealership to have a (free from the NFL) Sirius radio installed.
:lol:
He tip you a quarter afterwards?
No, but I got to reach into the candy jar and take as much as I could carry :contract:
Hard candies! :w00t:
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 11, 2014, 09:46:51 AM
So are you saying there is no NFL culture or that this particularly distasteful element isn't part of NFL culture?
I am sort of questioning the existence of an NFL culture. If it exists, it's pretty minimal.
Why's that? After all, it isn't unheard of for a culture to develop around certain professions.
Quote from: garbon on September 11, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Why's that? After all, it isn't unheard of for a culture to develop around certain professions.
I just think people try to attach way too much to what in the end, is still just a game.
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 11, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Why's that? After all, it isn't unheard of for a culture to develop around certain professions.
I just think people try to attach way too much to what in the end, is still just a game.
But isn't it more than that? Isn't it a multi-billion dollar industry?
Quote from: garbon on September 11, 2014, 11:07:40 AM
But isn't it more than that? Isn't it a multi-billion dollar industry?
Sure, but it's a diversion. I think people tend to attach too much meaning to certain aspects of it.
What is silly talking about NFL culture is that it implies that this is a problem that is special or uniquely problematic for the NFL. Like Ray Rice would never punch his wife in the face if he wasn't an nfl football player.
And there is no reason to believe, that I am aware of, that nfl players are more prone to domestic violence than anyone else.
Maybe Baltimore Ravens are...?
Quote from: Berkut on September 11, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
And there is no reason to believe, that I am aware of, that nfl players are more prone to domestic violence than anyone else.
It depends. NFL players get arrested for domestic violence at about 55% of the national average for 25-29 year old men. However, when you also control for income rates, NFL players get arrested more often.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/
Quote from: Berkut on September 11, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Like Ray Rice would never punch his wife in the face if he wasn't an nfl football player.
So incredibly racist. You get your robes from the same white sale as dercracker?
HEY NOW
Berkut's oven mitts come in white too.