NFL 2014 Week One....Momma Said Knock Your Wife Out

Started by CountDeMoney, September 04, 2014, 06:37:11 PM

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Grey Fox

They have too many hand signals that Receivers (both Wide & TEs) didn't quite catch.
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sbr

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-never-contacted-casino-to-view-ray-rice-tape--tmz-report-122256617.html

QuoteNFL never contacted casino to view Ray Rice tape: TMZ report

In its investigations of the Ray Rice domestic-assault case from earlier this year, the NFL never asked the casino in which the assault took place for a copy of security tapes, according to a new report by TMZ. Had the NFL done so, the casino would have handed over the tapes, per the report. Instead, the tapes were leaked over a period of several months, culminating in Monday's unsettling footage that resulted in Rice's release from the Ravens.

The NFL has maintained that it had not viewed the most significant moments of the assault, the time when Rice strikes his then-fiancee Janay Palmer and renders her unconscious, until Monday. (This, despite earlier indications to multiple media outlets that the NFL indeed had seen the footage.)

Why hadn't the NFL seen the footage? They asked law enforcement but did not receive it, according to a statement released Monday: "Security for Atlantic City casinos is handled by the New Jersey State Police. Any videos related to an ongoing criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. As we said earlier today: We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until [Monday]."

However, TMZ's sources indicated that the casino had made copies of the tape for both law enforcement and Rice's attorneys, but the NFL never asked either of those two entities for copies of the tape. There are, presumably, three possible rationales here:

1. The NFL is lying about not having seen the incriminating tape.

2. The NFL had not seen the incriminating tape because its investigators did not think, or know, to ask sources other than the police for a copy.

3. The NFL knew it could have checked with other sources, but chose not to do so in order to preserve plausible deniability and avoid bringing a harsher penalty down on Rice initially.

As a result of Monday's revelations, Rice was swiftly cut from the Ravens and suspended by the NFL. While his particular situation has been resolved for the moment, the question of what commissioner Roger Goodell knew and when he knew it remains a critical one.

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No bueno.

CountDeMoney

I call #1.  There is no way they didnt see the video;  the NFL's security people are as wired in as they come.

And why trust the Commissioner, this is the guy that said the "evidence" from Spygate was "destroyed".

He's a fucking lawyer, after all.

derspiess

Once Belicheat is gone I think we'll learn more about Spygate.  There definitely seems to be more to learn.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Olbermann's take on the Rice episode was a bit... strong.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

sbr


derspiess

Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 09:38:38 AM
Isn't Obermann's take on everything strong?

Yeah, but this was excessive even for him.  He called on like 12 people to step down or be fire, and blamed literally everyone, including fans.

Can anyone tell me what the new video revealed that we did not know before?  I mean yeah, it looked even worse than the first video but we knew he hit her hard enough to knock her out.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 09:38:38 AM
Isn't Obermann's take on everything strong?

Yeah, but this was excessive even for him.  He called on like 12 people to step down or be fire, and blamed literally everyone, including fans.

Can anyone tell me what the new video revealed that we did not know before?  I mean yeah, it looked even worse than the first video but we knew he hit her hard enough to knock her out.

Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.

Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.

Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.

True.

Oh and in important commentary - from Ms. Dunham:

QuoteToday has just proven, once and for all, that I'm not missing fucking anything by not watching football.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

sbr

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Easier to have a more visceral reaction to something you see rather than just visually imagine.

Too bad the federal felon guilty of running an interstate gambling ring didnt videotape the dogs he hooked up to car batteries, but then he wouldnt be playing in the league right now.

While you are most definitely right, I don't see what good that does us now.

It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on WomenTM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.

garbon

Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
It's too bad your "outrage" about the War on WomenTM ends as soon as it is a Baltimore Raven that is doing the misdeed.

:yes: :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Berkut

How nice that Ray Lewis is weighing in on this. He is a paragon of respect for the law and not tolerating violence.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/ray-lewis-ray-rice-ravens-espn-video

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