Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

Started by mongers, July 22, 2011, 09:16:05 AM

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Norgy

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 03:41:11 PM


If they're alluding to what it sounds like, you're for damn sure. This kind of shit may be the last nail in the coffin.  :hmm:

It doesn't really change the fact that this is a terrible tragedy. [although it may amplify it  :P ]

I don't really care who did it. Not in the sense that I am emotionally invested in it, at least. I care that they apparently got the guy. The fact that he's a Norwegian national is to me triple scary.
We've seen a few gun nuts in the past go on and kill some bystanders and hole up with a hostage or two, but this kind of calculated murder spree is just incomprehensible. The sheer hatred behind would at least point towards a major religious or political conviction that would've manifested itself earlier in some way.

But, when I assess what has happened, there's one thing that really doesn't fit the Islamic jihad thing; they would maximise the kill count. In the middle of summer around Regjeringskvartalet, it's just amazingly quiet. And most employees were already gone home or on holiday. If I were a Jihadist, I'd go for the underground during the morning rush on a rainy or snowy day in, say, October to December, with the bomb going off on Stortinget or Nationaltheatret.
Seven killed at government quarters and considerable material damage, yes, but still, look at London, Madrid, Nairobi and New York. This is amateur hour compared to those. While I realise the jihadists may have lost significant edge the past few years, I'd still think they'd hit somewhere else.

On the other hand, I still can't fathom how anyone would do this.
And, it could be that it's by no means a right-winger, but a more Baader-Meinhof type leftist who thinks the Labour Party is a tool of bourgeoisie oppression. I know some of those.

Pat

Let's summarize:

The man is Norwegian. The police know what environments he is known to associate with and they say it is most likely not an act of international terrorism but rather a home-grown attack against the political system. The attack was against government, media and leftist youth. Sounds like right-wing extremism to me.

Razgovory

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:08:53 PM

Go for it.

If you really want me to, I found a webpage to report "racism on the internet" to the Norwegian Criminal Police.  Is in English and everything.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

So...they captured this dude alive right?  Connection with the carbomb?  This is some sort of weird anti-Socialist thingy?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Slargos

Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2011, 04:11:45 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 03:41:11 PM


If they're alluding to what it sounds like, you're for damn sure. This kind of shit may be the last nail in the coffin.  :hmm:

It doesn't really change the fact that this is a terrible tragedy. [although it may amplify it  :P ]

I don't really care who did it. Not in the sense that I am emotionally invested in it, at least. I care that they apparently got the guy. The fact that he's a Norwegian national is to me triple scary.
We've seen a few gun nuts in the past go on and kill some bystanders and hole up with a hostage or two, but this kind of calculated murder spree is just incomprehensible. The sheer hatred behind would at least point towards a major religious or political conviction that would've manifested itself earlier in some way.

But, when I assess what has happened, there's one thing that really doesn't fit the Islamic jihad thing; they would maximise the kill count. In the middle of summer around Regjeringskvartalet, it's just amazingly quiet. And most employees were already gone home or on holiday. If I were a Jihadist, I'd go for the underground during the morning rush on a rainy or snowy day in, say, October to December, with the bomb going off on Stortinget or Nationaltheatret.
Seven killed at government quarters and considerable material damage, yes, but still, look at London, Madrid, Nairobi and New York. This is amateur hour compared to those. While I realise the jihadists may have lost significant edge the past few years, I'd still think they'd hit somewhere else.

On the other hand, I still can't fathom how anyone would do this.
And, it could be that it's by no means a right-winger, but a more Baader-Meinhof type leftist who thinks the Labour Party is a tool of bourgeoisie oppression. I know some of those.

I don't know about that. The Stockholm bombings went atrociously wrong [for the bombers] and they were nominally jihadists.

But, yeah.

Slargos

Quote from: Razgovory on July 22, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:08:53 PM

Go for it.

If you really want me to, I found a webpage to report "racism on the internet" to the Norwegian Criminal Police.  Is in English and everything.

I can't tell you what to do. I can tell you what I could do. But I can't tell you what to do.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 10:09:11 AM
I can almost see the gears spinning in their heads, "FUCK! How can we prevent the racists from profiting off of this!"  :D

So what are the racists thinking now that they know it was a good ole boy?

HVC

Quote from: Mr.Penguin on July 22, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
Possible picture of the gun man (WANNING DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE DEAD PEOPLE)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=160139
looks like the guy at the bottom left corner is pleading :(
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

HVC

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 22, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:08:53 PM

Go for it.

If you really want me to, I found a webpage to report "racism on the internet" to the Norwegian Criminal Police.  Is in English and everything.

I can't tell you what to do. I can tell you what I could do. But I can't tell you what to do.
don't tempt the crazy guy :lol:

Raz, relax
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Slargos

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 10:09:11 AM
I can almost see the gears spinning in their heads, "FUCK! How can we prevent the racists from profiting off of this!"  :D

So what are the racists thinking now that they know it was a good ole boy?

You seem to live under the illusion that I can answer that question.

Why don't you ask Garbon what the nigger community thinks about it.

Oh wait, that would be racist, assuming Garbon knows because he's black.

Slargos

Quote from: HVC on July 22, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 22, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:08:53 PM

Go for it.

If you really want me to, I found a webpage to report "racism on the internet" to the Norwegian Criminal Police.  Is in English and everything.

I can't tell you what to do. I can tell you what I could do. But I can't tell you what to do.
don't tempt the crazy guy :lol:

Raz, relax

You're assuming Raz is crazier than I am.  :hmm:

crazy canuck

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 10:09:11 AM
I can almost see the gears spinning in their heads, "FUCK! How can we prevent the racists from profiting off of this!"  :D

So what are the racists thinking now that they know it was a good ole boy?

You seem to live under the illusion that I can answer that question.

Why don't you ask Garbon what the nigger community thinks about it.

Oh wait, that would be racist, assuming Garbon knows because he's black.

You often express racist views and often seem to be proud you are racist so I thought you would give us a good indication of the Racist view now that your initial suspision this was done by a "towel head" seems to be incorrect.

Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on July 22, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 22, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:08:53 PM

Go for it.

If you really want me to, I found a webpage to report "racism on the internet" to the Norwegian Criminal Police.  Is in English and everything.

I can't tell you what to do. I can tell you what I could do. But I can't tell you what to do.
don't tempt the crazy guy :lol:

Raz, relax

Yeah, I wouldn't do something like that.  For one thing I don't believe Slargos actually believes that shit.  And another, it's a Marty type thing to do.  I did find it was possible though.  Which is kinda creepy actually.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Slargos

Apparently the guy is being interrogated now, and he's reportedly "very talkative" so we may get the whole story very soon.

Sounds like it is indeed domestic. Very disturbing.

HVC

It's a safe assumption. You play a racist slightly out there guy on the net for shits n giggles. Raz comes across as truly unbalanced and at times doesn't grasp where languish ends and reality starts. And he knows your real name and can do some rela
Damage if he so wishes
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.