Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

[Slargos]

[ ] A committed social democratic madman decides to take one for the team. He detonates a bomb knowing that FRP would eventually attempt to capitalize on it on their anti-islamic platform. He proceeds to murder a few dozen Red youth and later claims he did it in the name of Vigrid, the Norwad nazis. FRP takes a huge hit in the polls, and AP gets a massive sympathy vote. From an almost certain Blue victory in the coming elections to a guaranteed continued Red supremacy with the stroke of a detonator and a bunch of dead kids. [/  ]

[mongers]

CNN still hasn't mentioned a tall white dude

The Beeb has.
And some seem to lean more towards homegrown terrorism.

It would be feasible to leave a car (especially when you're dressed in police uniform) in the area in question. It would also be feasible to use a timer. Yes, the car could be towed, but most likely not. There still would be time to make it to Utøya.

Just a theory, of course. And Slargos will say it's all whitewashing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-europe-14254705

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The man arrested after a shooting at the camp in Utoeyais has ties to the bombing in Oslo, police say.

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Eyewitness Andre Scheie told NRK: "There are very many dead by the shore... There are about 20-25 dead." Mr Scheie also said he saw people dead in the water at the camp.

[Slargos]

He may have been watching people who were just trying to hide among the rocks, or wounded.

9 dead confirmed so far.

[Pat]

 

Maybe the Aluminum people plant a car bomb, then a Neo Nazi takes advantage of the confusion to mow down lefties?

Bombman and shooter both wearing same police uniform according to police press conference live right now so according to police most likely same person but they don't know if he acted alone or had help. He is in custody and they are questioning him right now. Police will say nothing of how he looks or what his motives might be. They do know his identity and they say is not and has never been a real policeman.

[derspiess]

That still seems pretty bizarre.

It used to be a way to recruit back in the 1950s and 1960s when most people couldn't afford to go on holidays in summer. You had the youth camps, some organised by political parties, some by religious organisations, some by teetotallers etc etc.

Today, the youth camp is mostly a workshop and breeding seminar where tomorrow's leaders are introduced to fucking in the bushes.

It just sounds like something you'd see either in totalitarian regimes or settings like Weimar Germany where you had right and left wing extremist organizations doing stuff like that.

As staunch as I am in my political beliefs, I'd feel odd sending my kid to a summer camp run by a political party or movement.

[Razgovory]

Too bad nobody else on the island was armed.

Yeah, then the assailant might end up with two guns.

That doesn't make any sense.

Made sense to me.  Assailant kills other person with a gun, picks it up and now has two guns.

[Jacob]

[ ] A committed social democratic madman decides to take one for the team. He detonates a bomb knowing that FRP would eventually attempt to capitalize on it on their anti-islamic platform. He proceeds to murder a few dozen Red youth and later claims he did it in the name of Vigrid, the Norwad nazis. FRP takes a huge hit in the polls, and AP gets a massive sympathy vote. From an almost certain Blue victory in the coming elections to a guaranteed continued Red supremacy with the stroke of a detonator and a bunch of dead kids. [/  ]

Really?

Do you have any non- theories?

[MadImmortalMan]

Are all those people grouped on that one corner of the island dead in the helicopter footage? The SE corner.

[Pat]

Could be a convertite or whatever but my money is still on far-right extremists and that it happened during peak holiday season when most people are out of town to minimize "civilian" casualties and maximize evil politician, bureaucrat and media casualties who are running stuff that goes on at all times.

Scandinavian far-right movements are armed and dangerous and they have killed before (see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_S%C3%B6derberg).

edit: but most likely it's a lone lunatic of course

[Cecil]

Could be a convertite or whatever but my money is still on far-right extremists and that it happened during peak holiday season when most people are out of town to minimize "civilian" casualties and maximize evil politician, bureaucrat and media casualties who are running stuff that goes on at all times.

I dont know about Norway but here the far right extremists dont have this sort of pull and havent had for decades no matter what acid trip Expo is most of the time. ´Tis strange if it were to be.

[Pat]

Well we had the recent serial killer (or whatever) in Malmö killing immigrants.

edit: well more like shooting at, I don't remember how many he actually killed

[Ideologue]

Too bad nobody else on the island was armed.

Yeah, then the assailant might end up with two guns.

That doesn't make any sense.

Made sense to me.  Assailant kills other person with a gun, picks it up and now has two guns.

That's like saying soldiers shouldn't be armed because enemies may capture their weapons.  While what you assert is a possible outcome, it's not the only possible outcome; and in any event, the ability to acquire a subsequent firearm does not necessarily make an attacker already armed with a firearm appreciably more dangerous, and I'd imagine that a group that has come under attack by a man with a gun is likelier to survive if they also have guns themselves.

On the other hand, you were probably just making a little joke and I am: a humorous dick.

[Josquius]

Only description I've seen is "nordic looking". We'll see what gives.

I heard tall blonde guy too.

And shooting at socialists

Could be a muslim convert of course but its a bit mad to yell 'muslims!' right away. Far right extremists seems just as likely at the moment.
I would have placed more money on it being Libyans than Islamofascists even if not for the blonde guy (more likely for him to be a convert than a Libyan and muslims largely support the rebels in Libya).

[Cecil]

Well we had the recent serial killer (or whatever) in Malmö killing immigrants.

edit: well more like shooting at, I don't remember how many he actually killed

Random wacko with a rifle running around is not this. This must be organized by something bigger and not a one man show.

[MadImmortalMan]

BBC says the bombers/shooter were "foreign".