Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

Started by mongers, July 22, 2011, 09:16:05 AM

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Viking

#255
July 22, 2011, 05:57:23 PM
To quote the PM, I'm alive and in a safe place, but not without annoyance that nobody mentioned the fact that I hadn't posted yet grrrrr....

I was at a family dinner and there were people crying as the news came in.

The best info I have as follows is

- single perpetrator
- ethnically Norwegian perpetrator (not just Norwegian citizen)
- car bomb was small (100kg TNT equivalent est.)
- the car bomb was place in the Government Block in Oslo including Premier, Justice, Agriculture, Fishing and Oil and Energy Ministries.
- the perpetrator then drove to Utøya gathered people there together to tell about the bomb, then started shooting

No motive has been leaked. The man is known to the police and known to travel in certain circles.

Strange circumstances include the bomb going off at 3:30 pm on friday during the vacation, one would expect the offices to be empty and casualties minimal in the Government Block itself.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

#256
July 22, 2011, 06:01:23 PM
Sounds like a man with a plan.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

#257
July 22, 2011, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 22, 2011, 06:01:23 PM
Sounds like a man with a plan.

Definitely, but a somewhat opaque one at first view.

MadImmortalMan

#258
July 22, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
This is the guy, according to some dudes on pdox who got it from some other site, who got it from somewhere else...


http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254

"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Maximus

#259
July 22, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Sounds to me like the camp was his primary target.

Someone with a personal grudge against the camp or the people there?

Razgovory

#261
July 22, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 22, 2011, 05:09:36 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 22, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
It might have been a coincidence it was the labour youth and not the boy scouts being attacked or it might not be a coincidence. What do you think?

I think I would rather wait and learn about this guy before I blame his political ideology.

Then you're out of step with your Conservative brethren, some of whom may have jumped the gun and claimed it was Muslims.  Oh well.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

#262
July 22, 2011, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: Viking on July 22, 2011, 05:57:23 PM
To quote the PM, I'm alive and in a safe place, but not without annoyance that nobody mentioned the fact that I hadn't posted yet grrrrr....
.....

First page, I didn't feel the need to mention individual languishites, besides I thought you lived in Bergen/Tromso/Trondheim ?

Quote from: mongers on July 22, 2011, 09:26:23 AM
This report suggests PM offices were target rather than newspaper VG:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-europe-14252515

Anyway I hope all Norwegian Languishites and their families are ok and the loss of life isn't too high.

Anyway glad to hear you're ok and no family were harmed.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Viking

#263
July 22, 2011, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Maximus on July 22, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Sounds to me like the camp was his primary target.

Someone with a personal grudge against the camp or the people there?

If MIM has the right guy then this is political.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Jacob

#264
July 22, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
On another forum I frequent, word is that the most recent news is that it's a 32 year old man with ties to right wing extremist groups, and that he may be an individual who's previously been arrested for firearms offenses, while a police uniform and explosives were found at his appartment.

Charming.

Ed Anger

#265
July 22, 2011, 06:11:28 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
This is the guy, according to some dudes on pdox who got it from some other site, who got it from somewhere else...


http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254

True Blood? Dexter?

Gay.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Razgovory

#266
July 22, 2011, 06:13:38 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
This is the guy, according to some dudes on pdox who got it from some other site, who got it from somewhere else...


http://nb-no.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254

Sounds like a Classical Liberal.  In other words, a complete nut.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

MadImmortalMan

#267
July 22, 2011, 06:15:12 PM
Googling him returns this twitter account

http://twitter.com/#!/conservatist

"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Razgovory

#268
July 22, 2011, 06:17:09 PM
Bet they find a copy of Hearts of Iron or some other Paradox game in his home.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

#269
July 22, 2011, 06:21:37 PM
Norwegian Article about him: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080610

Main points:

He feels there's no longer a conflict between Capitalism and Socialism, but between Internationalism and Nationalism. He's a Nationalist.
He feels that Swedish media is insufficiently critical towards Islam.
He started an agricultural firm in 2009, through which he could gain access to large quantities of fertilizer.
He likes the games Modern Warfare and World of Warcraft, and the TV shows Dexter and True Blood.

Make what you will from that.
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