Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

Started by mongers, July 22, 2011, 09:16:05 AM

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I think it takes a special kind of enthusiasm to butcher a bunch of children though.

The Nazi kind would suffice.  Nazis have a long and distinguished track record when it comes to butchering children.
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Slargos

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:38:29 PM
And here I'm talking more about the attack on the camp than on the government building which can always be rationalized. The camp simply cannot.

Why do you think an attack on a government building which kills people (or at least one person) can be rationalized whereas the attack on the camp which kills people cannot.

Let me rephrase myself, since anything can be rationalized.

An attack on a purely political target can be justified, even if tenuously, by the fact that it is an attack on agents of the government.

Butchering children for the shock factor can't. It's just murder.

Slargos

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 22, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I think it takes a special kind of enthusiasm to butcher a bunch of children though.

The Nazi kind would suffice.  Nazis have a long and distinguished track record when it comes to butchering children.

So do Communists.  :hmm:

Slargos

Police expect the death toll on the island to go higher. Judging from the pictures, in that one with the pleading kid in the the water alone it looks like a dozen corpses...



Norgy

They also found explosives there. Why?
Assassination attempt planned tomorrow, then Blondie gets impatient and sets everything off today?  :hmm:

Pat

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 22, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I think it takes a special kind of enthusiasm to butcher a bunch of children though.

The Nazi kind would suffice.  Nazis have a long and distinguished track record when it comes to butchering children.

So do Communists.  :hmm:

That's your bet on this one? I don't even need to say you're stupid, it's already evident to everyone.

Slargos

Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2011, 04:50:49 PM
They also found explosives there. Why?
Assassination attempt planned tomorrow, then Blondie gets impatient and sets everything off today?  :hmm:

It seems like such an elaborate plot to be able to pull off alone.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2011, 04:50:49 PM
They also found explosives there. Why?
Assassination attempt planned tomorrow, then Blondie gets impatient and sets everything off today?  :hmm:

You're hooked into the Norwegian blond community.  What inside scoop can you provide us?

Slargos

Quote from: Pat on July 22, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 22, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I think it takes a special kind of enthusiasm to butcher a bunch of children though.

The Nazi kind would suffice.  Nazis have a long and distinguished track record when it comes to butchering children.

So do Communists.  :hmm:

That's your bet on this one? I don't even need to say you're stupid, it's already evident to everyone.

Yes. My bet is actually Communist Martians attempting to destabilize the Norwegian government.

Slargos

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2011, 04:50:49 PM
They also found explosives there. Why?
Assassination attempt planned tomorrow, then Blondie gets impatient and sets everything off today?  :hmm:

You're hooked into the Norwegian blond community.  What inside scoop can you provide us?

:lol:

PDH

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2011, 04:40:12 PM
I'm going to hazard a guess that when all is said and done there's a chick involved.
Pussy terrorism is the worst kind.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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Norgy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2011, 04:52:54 PM

You're hooked into the Norwegian blond community.  What inside scoop can you provide us?

I've heard mutterings about how the anti-blond policies of this government could have "serious consequences", but I always imagined we'd have to dye our hair.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:46:16 PM
An attack on a purely political target can be justified, even if tenuously, by the fact that it is an attack on agents of the government.

Butchering children for the shock factor can't. It's just murder.

How old would a person have to be before an attack on them could be justified?

derspiess

Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2011, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 22, 2011, 04:34:27 PM
"And, it could be that it's by no means a right-winger, but a more Baader-Meinhof type leftist who thinks the Labour Party is a tool of bourgeoisie oppression. I know some of those."

Single example of something similar to this for the reasons you describe?

Brigado Rosso. Baader-Meinhof. Carlos the Jackal. Granted, that's thirty odd years ago, and it looks more and more like this was a right-winger. The apparent close-range murder of at least ten youths indicate that the man in question had very personal issues with the Labour Party.

Or maybe he's just a wacko without any coherent political ideology, like the Arizona shooter.  That would surely disappoint those already certain that it's a right-winger.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Slargos

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 22, 2011, 04:46:16 PM
An attack on a purely political target can be justified, even if tenuously, by the fact that it is an attack on agents of the government.

Butchering children for the shock factor can't. It's just murder.

How old would a person have to be before an attack on them could be justified?

I don't know. How old would a person have to be before it's justified to drop a bomb on their wedding party?