Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

[Razgovory]

Only description I've seen is "nordic looking". We'll see what gives.

So if he turns out to be a white Norwegian of long term Norwegian stock, what are the likely motivations?

Some personal feud with someone on the island? Raving lunatic acting out? Convert to Islam, so still an Islamist terrorist plot? Right-wing terrorist of some sort? Some kind of criminal feud?

Any other theories?

There is probably more then one perpetrator.  It would be difficult to plant the bomb and set it off at the same time you are some island shooting kids.

[Slargos]

Around 30 killed at the camp. Though hopefully this is vastly exaggerated.

[Slargos]

Only description I've seen is "nordic looking". We'll see what gives.

So if he turns out to be a white Norwegian of long term Norwegian stock, what are the likely motivations?

Some personal feud with someone on the island? Raving lunatic acting out? Convert to Islam, so still an Islamist terrorist plot? Right-wing terrorist of some sort? Some kind of criminal feud?

Any other theories?

I'm feeling far too sick to speculate right now.

[Liep]

Around 30 killed at the camp.

[Razgovory]

Odd, Muslim terrorists don't normally attack political parties.  Usually it's a more general attack on a populace.  This sounds like an attack on the Labor party.

[Jacob]

There is probably more then one perpetrator.  It would be difficult to plant the bomb and set it off at the same time you are some island shooting kids.

I was speaking only of the shooting.

Is there any evidence right now that the two incidents are linked, other than they happend around the same time?

[Jacob]

Around 30 killed at the camp. Though hopefully this is vastly exaggerated.

I hope so.

[Liep]

There is probably more then one perpetrator.  It would be difficult to plant the bomb and set it off at the same time you are some island shooting kids.

I was speaking only of the shooting.

Is there any evidence right now that the two incidents are linked, other than they happend around the same time?

The shooter used the bombings as excuse to get into the camp to do a security check.

[Jacob]

I'm feeling far too sick to speculate right now.

Fair enough. I guess we'll likely find out soon enough.

[Jacob]

The shooter used the bombings as excuse to get into the camp to do a security check.

Fuck. That's pretty sick.

[JonasSalk]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, according to Mr. McCants' translation, apparently referred to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come." The claim could not be confirmed.

[Norgy]

That's mullah Krekar's old crew.

[MadImmortalMan]

So, is the thing on the island still going on?

[Martinus]

That still seems pretty bizarre.

It's pretty common in Europe I think, and has been for a long time.  I think most political parties have "Youth wings".  The Hitlerjugend was only the most famous (communists had Pioneers).  In the US we have Young Democrats and College Republicans and the like, but that's still aimed at young adults.  I think this is more like a combination Boy Scouts and Summer camp (both religious and secular).

I don't know about Norway, but in Poland the "youth wings" are really for young adults too (usually college students and people until 30). I don't think Norway has "leftist boy scouts" but could be wrong.

[Martinus]

Around 30 killed at the camp. Though hopefully this is vastly exaggerated.

Oh fuck.