Tea Partiers harassed by IRS?

[merithyn]

As for the partisan thing, do you really think that no one noticed when Bush pulled this stuff? Was it trotted out with words like "impeachment!" when he did? Again I say, it's not a partisan thing, it's a politician thing. To keep harping on it as if it's news is just... worthless.

Well yes there was a resolution put forth to impeach him. Also per wiki, fun Nancy made a series of odd statements.

There was a resolution put forth to impeach Bush for misquoting himself?

There were some pretty stupid resolutions trotted out to impeach him - like the Global Warming thing for example - but I don't remember any for him misquoting himself.

[garbon]

I thought we were talking about lying. Also you're the one who mentioned Bush who "pulled this stuff."

[merithyn]

I thought we were talking about lying. Also you're the one who mentioned Bush who "pulled this stuff."

I meant the twisting of words to make himself sound better (though admittedly, that didn't happen often with him.... it usually made him sound worse).

I don't mind that Obama is getting called on it. Hell, they all should. But he's not just getting called on it. He's being harped on as if it's this huge, horrible deal. I don't see the fuss.

[Valmy]

I meant the twisting of words to make himself sound better (though admittedly, that didn't happen often with him.... it usually made him sound worse).

His administration was pretty good with that actually.  They would be releasing stats and statements that were all technically true (we have had positive economic growth for X number of quaters!) but was all designed to be misleading.  So not really that much different than lying in my book.  Rick Perry is also great at that.

[merithyn]

His administration was pretty good with that actually.  They would be releasing stats and statements that were all technically true (we have had positive economic growth for X number of quaters!) but was all designed to be misleading.  So not really that much different than lying in my book.  Rick Perry is also great at that.

It's how they get elected. *shrugs* My issues with Bush were never about how he talked around things, but rather the things that he did or didn't do.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't mind that Obama is getting called on it. Hell, they all should.

This was not your first response when Teh Forehead posted a fact-checking article calling him on it.

[merithyn]

I don't mind that Obama is getting called on it. Hell, they all should.

This was not your first response when Teh Forehead posted a fact-checking article calling him on it.

Um, because he's been called out for months on this, and this new article doesn't shed any new light?

At this point it's not calling him out. It's harassment.

[Admiral Yi]

Um, because he's been called out for months on this, and this new article doesn't shed any new light?

At this point it's not calling him out. It's harassment.

Really?  It was news to me.  I hadn't read anything else that pointed out the falsity of his debate statement.

[11B4V]

Well, I suppose you could argue that this doesn't directly change anything.  I suppose you, Meri, could hold the principled position that a lie that doesn't result in loss of life, property, or injury doesn't really matter.  Or I suppose you, Meri, could hold the partisan position that it doesn't ever matter when my guy lies.

I'd wonder why we are beating this horse to death if it doesn't change anything.

Still a lie.

[11B4V]

Again, I ask. How does this directly change anything?

Well, I suppose you could argue that this doesn't directly change anything. 
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IMO the credibility of the Prez.

[11B4V]

A 'greatest hits' of misleading Obama claims   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-greatest-hits-of-misleading-obama-claims/2012/11/01/95e56334-2471-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_blog.html

[derspiess]

I am just saying, do not be a Tim here.  You shouldn't refuse to provide commentary on an article you introduced to the conversation

Gotta keep my powder dry.  With work getting busier I don't have time to fight many pitched battles.

[garbon]

Again, I ask. How does this directly change anything?

Well, I suppose you could argue that this doesn't directly change anything. 

IMO the credibility of the Prez.
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Of course, you've already made up your mind on his credibility so...

[11B4V]

Again, I ask. How does this directly change anything?

Well, I suppose you could argue that this doesn't directly change anything. 

IMO the credibility of the Prez.

Of course, you've already made up your mind on his credibility so...
[/quote]

I voted for him. But a duck is just a duck sometimes.

[CountDeMoney]

Quit fucking up your quotes, y'all.