Tea Partiers harassed by IRS?

[derspiess]

It's when you do shit like that that I stop paying any attention to your arguments.

I laughed because it sounded eerily similar to Hillary's bitchy response during her congressional hearing.

[merithyn]

Incompetence

I would argue that it was a mistake. Nothing more, nothing less. A mistake that had zero impact on anything in the short- and long-term, even.

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into? You trust your government that much? Were not talk conspiracy shit, just oversight and accountability. 

Oh, this Benghazi incident will have effects in DoS procedures.

But it's pretty clear what the mistake is! You're talking as if we don't already understand what happened. EVERYONE knows what happened. What kind of "oversight" and "accountability" is necessary for misspeaking at a press conference after something goes wrong?

And yes, I know you're talking about the deaths in Benghazi, except that that's not what's being investigated, is it? No one is talking about what to do next to protect our embassadors. No. The focus is on who said what when in the days following the tragedy.

[11B4V]

Incompetence

I would argue that it was a mistake. Nothing more, nothing less. A mistake that had zero impact on anything in the short- and long-term, even.

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into? You trust your government that much? Were not talk conspiracy shit, just oversight and accountability. 

Oh, this Benghazi incident will have effects in DoS procedures.

What was the "mistake" in your opinion, not giving them more security, or mis-speaking about the root cause of the attack?

Both.

[11B4V]

Incompetence

I would argue that it was a mistake. Nothing more, nothing less. A mistake that had zero impact on anything in the short- and long-term, even.

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into? You trust your government that much? Were not talk conspiracy shit, just oversight and accountability. 

Oh, this Benghazi incident will have effects in DoS procedures.

But it's pretty clear what the mistake is! You're talking as if we don't already understand what happened. EVERYONE knows what happened. What kind of "oversight" and "accountability" is necessary for misspeaking at a press conference after something goes wrong?

And yes, I know you're talking about the deaths in Benghazi, except that that's not what's being investigated, is it? No one is talking about what to do next to protect our embassadors. No. The focus is on who said what when in the days following the tragedy.

Misleading.

[Neil]

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into? You trust your government that much? Were not talk conspiracy shit, just oversight and accountability. 

There is a cost vs. reward calculation to be done there.  The administration can look into their security procedures, but under no circumstances should Congress be getting involved.  If you're talking about incompetence, why would you have the absolute least competent organization in the United States federal government hold hearings about it?  Unless of course your goal isn't to do anything but to try and turn this thing into some electoral hay for midterms next year.

[The Minsky Moment]

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into?

Ok but it's not like this particular snafu has suffered from lack of inquiry.

There are a lot of other mistakes that probably merit some attention.  For example, rather than engage in the 14th investigation of Benghazi, maybe some of the geniuses who are up in lather about the Kenyan socialists should ask themselves why 3-4 years after the collapse of Fannie and Freddie, the US federal government has in effect a monopoly over residential mortgage finance.  It's not like it is a big deal - only a few trillion dollars or so.  Clearly it is more important to examine in minute detail how the Secretary of State micro-managed consular security detail assignments.

[11B4V]

It's when you do shit like that that I stop paying any attention to your arguments.

I laughed because it sounded eerily similar to Hillary's bitchy response during her congressional hearing.

What an absolute horrible answer that Hillary gave.

[garbon]

It's when you do shit like that that I stop paying any attention to your arguments.

I laughed because it sounded eerily similar to Hillary's bitchy response during her congressional hearing.

What an absolute horrible answer that Hillary gave.

Otherwise known as the appropriate answer.

[11B4V]

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into? You trust your government that much? Were not talk conspiracy shit, just oversight and accountability. 

If you're talking about incompetence, why would you have the absolute least competent organization in the United States federal government hold hearings about it? 

So congress should not investigate anything..... Watergate, Iraq, 911, IRS, Wall Street..etc. Try again.

[merithyn]

I laughed because it sounded eerily similar to Hillary's bitchy response during her congressional hearing.

It's a fair question under the circumstances. I'm sure plenty of people have asked that same question. I don't get why it's funny.

Oh right. Because Hilary and I are both women, so it must be a woman thing. Ha. Ha. Ha. I get it. Yeah.. that's a real knee-slapper.

[11B4V]

So, a government mistake, whether under a GOP or Dem administration should not be looked into?

Ok but it's not like this particular snafu has suffered from lack of inquiry.

There are a lot of other mistakes that probably merit some attention.  For example, rather than engage in the 14th investigation of Benghazi, maybe some of the geniuses who are up in lather about the Kenyan socialists should ask themselves why 3-4 years after the collapse of Fannie and Freddie, the US federal government has in effect a monopoly over residential mortgage finance.  It's not like it is a big deal - only a few trillion dollars or so.  Clearly it is more important to examine in minute detail how the Secretary of State micro-managed consular security detail assignments.

Surely, your on point.

[11B4V]

It's when you do shit like that that I stop paying any attention to your arguments.

I laughed because it sounded eerily similar to Hillary's bitchy response during her congressional hearing.

What an absolute horrible answer that Hillary gave.

Otherwise known as the appropriate answer.

If you say so.

[derspiess]

If you're talking about incompetence, why would you have the absolute least competent organization in the United States federal government hold hearings about it?  Unless of course your goal isn't to do anything but to try and turn this thing into some electoral hay for midterms next year.

That's a good point.  How about we go ahead and appoint a special prosecutor to look into it? 

[Razgovory]

11B4V, if someone burns down your house while you aren't home does this prove you are incompetent?

[11B4V]

11B4V, if someone burns down your house while you aren't home does this prove you are incompetent?

Let me rephrase that to keep you on point.

Raz if someone kills you, after a lack of security has been identified, your request for more security is denied, does this prove incompetence?