2016 elections - because it's never too early

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derspiess

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 31, 2016, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 31, 2016, 01:17:33 AM
Chicago Tribune saying Hillary should step down:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-emails-kass-1030-20161028-column.html

Put aside the hysterical exaggerations about the emails.  The premise is horribly mistaken.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats elect - there will be total obstruction.  Obama was scrupulously clean and honest, always kept a measured tone, and the GOP response was to block and obstruct everything, to the point where we have been short one Supreme Court justice for months, even though everyone sane agrees that his appointment was perfectly reasonable.

It started with Gingrich, got worse with the Tea Party, and has reached its nadir with the Trumpian thought police.  The GOP is no longer a proper political party, it's a political protection scheme.  They can't win anymore based on policy or reasoned argument, and certainly not track record.  What they are left with is the threat to pull down the system unless they get their way.  And when you scrape off the Clinton derangement from the Trib columnist's piece, that's what he is saying - we can't elect HRC because the crazies that took over the GOP will blow us all up if we do.

Tell it to the Trib.

Heh. Hillary... Trib...
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Zoupa

It's not going to matter much. Trump would need to win NV, OH, FL, CO, NC, etc etc.

Pennsylvania going Clinton kinda clinches it.

CountDeMoney

Trump will win Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 31, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
Trump will win Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Ohio?  Almost certainly.

Florida?  Quite possibly.

Pennsylvania? Fuhgetaboutit.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2016, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 31, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
Trump will win Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Ohio?  Almost certainly.

Florida?  Quite possibly.

Pennsylvania? Fuhgetaboutit.

I'm a lot closer to Pennsylvania than you are.  He's going to carry it.

Eddie Teach

I'd agree with BB, but this year who knows. Trump may even lose Utah.
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Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 31, 2016, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2016, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 31, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
Trump will win Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Ohio?  Almost certainly.

Florida?  Quite possibly.

Pennsylvania? Fuhgetaboutit.

I'm a lot closer to Pennsylvania than you are.  He's going to carry it.

Proximity has nothing to do with it.  I can read polls, and they all have Hillary leading by 5-8 points.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/pennsylvania/
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
Proximity has nothing to do with it.  I can read polls, and they all have Hillary leading by 5-8 points.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/pennsylvania/

The polls are all rigged.  The only way to know is get close and feel the aura.

Syt

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html

QuoteFBI's Comey opposed naming Russians, citing election timing: Source

FBI Director James Comey argued privately that it was too close to Election Day for the United States government to name Russia as meddling in the U.S. election and ultimately ensured that the FBI's name was not on the document that the U.S. government put out, a former FBI official tells CNBC.

The official said some government insiders are perplexed as to why Comey would have election timing concerns with the Russian disclosure but not with the Huma Abedin email discovery disclosure he made Friday.

In the end, the Department of Homeland Security and The Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued the statement on Oct. 7, saying "The U.S. intelligence community is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations...These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process."

An FBI spokesperson declined to comment on Comey's role in the decision making surrounding the Oct. 7 statement.

According to the former official, Comey agreed with the conclusion the intelligence community came to: "A foreign power was trying to undermine the election. He believed it to be true, but was against putting it out before the election." Comey's position, this official said, was "if it is said, it shouldn't come from the FBI, which as you'll recall it did not."

Comey took a different approach toward releasing information about the discovery of emails on a laptop that was used by former Congressman Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, the official said. "By doing a press conference, and personally testifying and giving his opinion about the conduct, he made this about James Comey and his credibility," the official said. "You can see why he did it, from his perspective, once he had had that press conference."

The official said FBI investigators can get a "preliminary read" of the newly discovered emails within a couple of days and come to an initial conclusion about whether there is classified material in the files. "The questions is whether they will decide to share that read or not," the official said. "Normally in the FBI we would not, but we're not in normal land anymore."

Comey's decision to announce the new investigative steps has come under severe criticism from Democrats, including Hillary Clinton who addressed the issue at a rally Monday. "I'm sure a lot of you may be asking what this new email story is about and why in the world the FBI would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrongdoing with just days to go. That's a good question," Clinton said. "I am sure they will reach the same conclusion they did when they looked at my emails for the last year. There is no case here."

The Donald Trump campaign, meanwhile, has praised Comey for continuing to investigate Clinton. "The right thing to do whatever the FBI thinks," said Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway on CNBC Monday morning. "It's not for us to say speed it up because of the election or slow it down because of the election."
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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

 :hmm: My support for Comey wavers.

I still think Clinton supporters are making a mountain out of a molehill.  Unless Hillary sent a bunch of compartmentalized top secret briefings about drone strikes on Assange to Ooma and Schlong, or someone leaks an email about Hillary wanting to chemically castrate all gun owners, there's no there there.

Caliga

Let's hear more about the Anthonyweinermobile. :)
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Hamilcar

One day in the future, I hope they make an Anthony Weiner biopic, only for people to reject the plot at "too implausible".