TV/Movies Megathread

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F115HyusBc

I've watched this clip from Oppenheimer several times now and I found it absolutely electric.

My question for those who have watched the whole movie is if the rest of it matches up.  Other clips I've seen have made me think maybe this is the whole movie right here, sort of like the Cincinnati scene in the Jackie Robinson biopic.

How should I set my expectations for when it shows up on Netflix?

[The Brain]

Meltdown: Three Mile Island, S1. Documentary about the accident at TMI, with focus on a whistleblower during the cleanup operations. Lots of emotions, very little statements of fact. But among other things it suggests that the doses some local residents received were high enough to cause radiation burns and acute radiation sickness, and it also claims by implication that there has been a vast conspiracy over several decades involving numerous federal and state organizations and universities etc covering up the horrible short and long term health effects of the accident.

Out of curiosity I checked what the modern NRC take on the accident is, and this is from their Backgrounder (https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0402/ML040280573.pdf). At the end of the documentary, where there were texts about the NRC standpoint, only the bolded parts were given. Maybe the rest didn't support the vision of the documentary makers, who can say?

Health Effects

The NRC conducted detailed studies of the accident's radiological consequences, as did the
Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and
Human Services), the Department of Energy, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Several
independent groups also conducted studies. The approximately 2 million people around TMI-2 during
the accident are estimated to have received an average radiation dose of only about 1 millirem above the
usual background dose. To put this into context, exposure from a chest X-ray is about 6 millirem and the
area's natural radioactive background dose is about 100-125 millirem per year for the area. The
accident's maximum dose to a person at the site boundary would have been less than 100 millirem
above background.

In the months following the accident, although questions were raised about possible adverse
effects from radiation on human, animal, and plant life in the TMI area, none could be directly
correlated to the accident. Thousands of environmental samples of air, water, milk, vegetation, soil, and
foodstuffs were collected by various government agencies monitoring the area. Very low levels of
radionuclides could be attributed to releases from the accident. However, comprehensive investigations
and assessments by several well respected organizations, such as Columbia University and the
University of Pittsburgh, have concluded that in spite of serious damage to the reactor, the actual release
had negligible effects on the physical health of individuals or the environment.

The whistleblower made a comment towards the end that he was still in favor of nuclear power, but that it must never be run for profit. His reasoning being that profit was prioritized over safety. But what he fails to see is that there will ALWAYS be a drive to finish building and then keep operating a power plant (or anything else), regardless of the form of the enterprise. Whether you do it to increase shareholder value, or to provide electricity for society's needs, or to please your bosses in the Politburo, or whatever, if there isn't a drive then you wouldn't be building and operating the facility in the first place. There will always exist a tension between delivering product and safety, and how you manage THAT is what's important. But then he also blamed his cancer on his work in the nuclear industry while admitting that he had been a long time smoker, so maybe clear vision isn't his forte.

[The Brain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F115HyusBc

I've watched this clip from Oppenheimer several times now and I found it absolutely electric.

My question for those who have watched the whole movie is if the rest of it matches up.  Other clips I've seen have made me think maybe this is the whole movie right here, sort of like the Cincinnati scene in the Jackie Robinson biopic.

How should I set my expectations for when it shows up on Netflix?

There are certainly many parts of the movie that are crappier.

[Josquius]

Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny.

Yeah. Not good. Just hand waving the last one away is very bad form.
And what happened with Jones career to send him down the pecking order so much?
The set pieces are fine. The young Jones one at the start is cool.
But overall it's just such a mess. The big exciting part at the end is squandered. They could have done much with it.
I notice Disney plus says it's the last film in the series. Interesting they'd say this outright.

[Syt]

Cheers Season 3 has the first appearance of Raye Birk as Twitchwell, Cliff's rival and extreme stickler for the rules and regulations of the postal service.

During the episode Cliff says about him, "Put a uniform on some guys, it turns them right into a fascist."

Considering that Birk would later be an interrogator for the totalitarian regime of Pres. Clarke in Babylon 5 that seems way too appropriate.

[grumbler]

Cheers Season 3 has the first appearance of Raye Birk as Twitchwell, Cliff's rival and extreme stickler for the rules and regulations of the postal service.

During the episode Cliff says about him, "Put a uniform on some guys, it turns them right into a fascist."

Considering that Birk would later be an interrogator for the totalitarian regime of Pres. Clarke in Babylon 5 that seems way too appropriate.

Good catch! 

[Syt]

Directed by Richard Donner, starring Charles Bronson.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_(1970_film)

Lola (originally released as Twinky and also known as London Affair) is a 1970 romantic comedy drama film directed by Richard Donner and starring Charles Bronson and Susan George.

A 38-year-old writer of pornographic novels named Scott (Charles Bronson) meets and falls in love with a sixteen-year-old school girl (Susan George) whilst living in London.

When Scott is refused a permanent visa to remain in Britain, the couple get married in Scotland and move to America where by state law Twinky must go to school. Tensions arise when Twinky wants to engage in teenage pastimes, while Scott struggles to complete his novels in order to earn a living. She runs away and is found by Scott in the cellar. Twinky then leaves for London the next day after writing Scott a tearful farewell letter.

The idea and script for the film was written by Norman Thaddeus Vane,[3] which author Simon Richter believes was the key force behind the film.[4] Vane's script has been suggested to be somewhat autobiographical, as it mirrors the author's own marriage to 16 year-old model Sarah Caldwell, whom he married in the mid-1960s when he was 38.

Yikes.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Well, that should be a draw for the Republican party.

[Josquius]

Directed by Richard Donner, starring Charles Bronson.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_(1970_film)

Lola (originally released as Twinky and also known as London Affair) is a 1970 romantic comedy drama film directed by Richard Donner and starring Charles Bronson and Susan George.

A 38-year-old writer of pornographic novels named Scott (Charles Bronson) meets and falls in love with a sixteen-year-old school girl (Susan George) whilst living in London.

When Scott is refused a permanent visa to remain in Britain, the couple get married in Scotland and move to America where by state law Twinky must go to school. Tensions arise when Twinky wants to engage in teenage pastimes, while Scott struggles to complete his novels in order to earn a living. She runs away and is found by Scott in the cellar. Twinky then leaves for London the next day after writing Scott a tearful farewell letter.

The idea and script for the film was written by Norman Thaddeus Vane,[3] which author Simon Richter believes was the key force behind the film.[4] Vane's script has been suggested to be somewhat autobiographical, as it mirrors the author's own marriage to 16 year-old model Sarah Caldwell, whom he married in the mid-1960s when he was 38.

Yikes.

Just me who wants to see what sounds like an awesome car crash?

[Barrister]

Directed by Richard Donner, starring Charles Bronson.

Yikes.

I mean at least by the sounds of it it hardly endorses the idea of marrying children, but that is very much a movie that could only be made in 1970 or thereabouts.

[Admiral Yi]

I think Bruce Willis' French girlfriend in Pulp Fiction was a subversive endorsement of old guys fucking little girls.

[Savonarola]

Lola (originally released as Twinky and also known as London Affair) is a 1970 romantic comedy drama film directed by Richard Donner and starring Charles Bronson and Susan George.

A 38-year-old writer of pornographic novels named Scott (Charles Bronson) meets and falls in love with a sixteen-year-old school girl (Susan George) whilst living in London.

When Scott is refused a permanent visa to remain in Britain, the couple get married in Scotland and move to America where by state law Twinky must go to school. Tensions arise when Twinky wants to engage in teenage pastimes, while Scott struggles to complete his novels in order to earn a living. She runs away and is found by Scott in the cellar. Twinky then leaves for London the next day after writing Scott a tearful farewell letter.

Am I missing something?

Apart from the autobiographical elements, this doesn't sound that different than Stanley Kubrik's version of "Lolita."

[Admiral Yi]

Am I missing something?

Apart from the autobiographical elements, this doesn't sound that different than Stanley Kubrik's version of "Lolita."

Lolita is the story of a man who knows what he is doing is wrong but can't help himself.

[Barrister]

Lola (originally released as Twinky and also known as London Affair) is a 1970 romantic comedy drama film directed by Richard Donner and starring Charles Bronson and Susan George.

A 38-year-old writer of pornographic novels named Scott (Charles Bronson) meets and falls in love with a sixteen-year-old school girl (Susan George) whilst living in London.

When Scott is refused a permanent visa to remain in Britain, the couple get married in Scotland and move to America where by state law Twinky must go to school. Tensions arise when Twinky wants to engage in teenage pastimes, while Scott struggles to complete his novels in order to earn a living. She runs away and is found by Scott in the cellar. Twinky then leaves for London the next day after writing Scott a tearful farewell letter.

Am I missing something?

Apart from the autobiographical elements, this doesn't sound that different than Stanley Kubrik's version of "Lolita."

To be clear I've seen neither movie - I just reviewed wiki and the like.

In Lolita the girl is the main character's step-daughter, the affair is hidden.  The movie appears to emphasize how grown up and mature the girl is.

In Lola (which was surely renamed to be similar to Lolita - the girl's name is Twinky, which was the original title) they are legally married, and everything is above board.  That being said the "humour" seems to come from how immature the girl is.

[Sheilbh]

Well yeah - also in the UK you can get married, have sex, leave school, join the army etc at 16 (and there's a big campaign for votes at 16 too - which is already the case in Scotland).

But it is a fair point - the film (inevitably) is  lot less disturbing than the book. I don't think a plain adaptation of Lolita is really possible...