The Population Decline Thread

[Jacob]

Soon enough, a significant chunk of the population will have nothing better to do with their time than fuck.

Yeah quite possibly.

But what if they've all been socially disconnected from one another, insulated in mutually exclusive perfectly tailored AI driven personalized porn? That might make actual sex too weird and complicated to engage in.

Man... I'd love to get a view of the social impacts of these changes from a 100 years or 200 years in the future.

[Bauer]

That kind of reminds me of an old sci fi book the forever war.  The characters kept going on missions with time dilation and each time they returned home more and more time passed.  Eventually all remaining humans were genderless.  Book was ahead of its time.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

That kind of reminds me of an old sci fi book the forever war.  The characters kept going on missions with time dilation and each time they returned home more and more time passed.  Eventually all remaining humans were genderless.  Book was ahead of its time.

And the graphic novel version was made by a belgian (Marvano) (which is how I read it).

[Syt]

Read the Marvano comic first (still have it) - gorgeous visuals,the book later, too.

[Josquius]

Soon enough, a significant chunk of the population will have nothing better to do with their time than fuck.

Yeah quite possibly.

But what if they've all been socially disconnected from one another, insulated in mutually exclusive perfectly tailored AI driven personalized porn? That might make actual sex too weird and complicated to engage in..

Hello Japan.
As in most things like this it is now clear... Not weird. Just a decade or two ahead of the west.

[Zoupa]

It doesn't help that young folks can't afford housing.

[Josquius]

It doesn't help that young folks can't afford housing.

Yeah there's that too.
Not just young single people. Even for people with kids our world seems designed around only having 2 max with the structure of cars, houses with more than 3 bedrooms being rare/expensive (not helped by the housing shortage leading to them being cut into flats), etc...

As well as looking at those who can't afford kids at all there's also the trend to stop at 2 for reasons beyond personal interest. Seems easier to me to win over someone who has decided they like having kids than somebody who doesn't want any.

[PJL]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

[Syt]

[monoriu]LINE MUST GO UP! ETERNAL GROWTH! [/monoriu]

[crazy canuck]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

The issue is it is a cliff and not a gentle slope. Decline is the wrong word to describe what is coming. Collapse would be a better description.

Some countries are going to lose between half and two thirds of their workforce.

[PJL]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

The issue is it is a cliff and not a gentle slope. Decline is the wrong word to describe what is coming. Collapse would be a better description.

Some countries are going to lose between half and two thirds of their workforce.

Disagree, the dangers of population decline has been overstated. It's not going to be a cliff edge. Too many people are going with the far right narrative that population is going to collapse, which they are using it as a reason to ban abortion, the pill etc and woman's rights in general.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

The issue is it is a cliff and not a gentle slope. Decline is the wrong word to describe what is coming. Collapse would be a better description.

Some countries are going to lose between half and two thirds of their workforce.

Disagree, the dangers of population decline has been overstated. It's not going to be a cliff edge. Too many people are going with the far right narrative that population is going to collapse, which they are using it as a reason to ban abortion, the pill etc and woman's rights in general.

America isn't the world.
In most places outside the civilized world these things aren't even allowed yet

[crazy canuck]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

The issue is it is a cliff and not a gentle slope. Decline is the wrong word to describe what is coming. Collapse would be a better description.

Some countries are going to lose between half and two thirds of their workforce.

Disagree, the dangers of population decline has been overstated. It's not going to be a cliff edge. Too many people are going with the far right narrative that population is going to collapse, which they are using it as a reason to ban abortion, the pill etc and woman's rights in general.

It's not a narrative. It's math.

[Razgovory]

Is population decline really a problem? Given how much resources we are taking from the planet, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if there are fewer people globally anyway.

The issue is it is a cliff and not a gentle slope. Decline is the wrong word to describe what is coming. Collapse would be a better description.

Some countries are going to lose between half and two thirds of their workforce.

Disagree, the dangers of population decline has been overstated. It's not going to be a cliff edge. Too many people are going with the far right narrative that population is going to collapse, which they are using it as a reason to ban abortion, the pill etc and woman's rights in general.

Alternatively people can and do argue that because of population decline we need more immigration which is not something the far-right is keen on.

[Tonitrus]

When it comes to immigration, I don't think the far right concerns itself with tawdry things like numbers or math.  They use a different lens.