Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Zoupa]

Obviously they can. They've been doing it since 1967.

[Tamas]

Here is a Palestinian opinion pieces agreeing with my impression that most Palestinians want a one-state solution, not a two-state one.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/11/palestinians-justice-occupied-territories

[grumbler]

Here is a Palestinian opinion pieces agreeing with my impression that most Palestinians want a one-state solution, not a two-state one.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/11/palestinians-justice-occupied-territories

Well, congrats on finding someone who agrees with you.

[viper37]

Here is a Palestinian opinion pieces agreeing with my impression that most Palestinians want a one-state solution, not a two-state one.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/11/palestinians-justice-occupied-territories

I'm not convinced that Irish Republicans in 1917 were ready to accept Ireland's partition.
Maybe even, a solid group of Irish were supportive of a one state solution.

How many Irish today are willing to spill blood to reunite Ireland?

[grumbler]

From the May PCPR poll poll:

We asked about the public support for three possible solutions to the conflict:
the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders,
the solution of a confederation between the two states of Palestine and Israel, and
a one-state solution in which the Jews and Palestinians live with equality,

47% (46% in the West Bank and 48% in the Gaza Strip) prefer the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders,

while 15% (9% in the West Bank and 24% in the Gaza Strip) prefer a confederation between two states.

14% (12% in the West Bank and 18% in the Gaza Strip) prefer the establishment of a single state with equality between the two sides.

24% said they did not know or did not want to answer.

(formatted for clarity)

Support for a one-state solution is low. A plurality overall and a majority of those who responded with a choice (i.e. not "don't know") prefer a two-state solution.

[crazy canuck]

The humanitarian crisis in Gaza has reached "unimaginable levels," Britain, Canada, Australia and several of their European allies said on Tuesday, calling on Israel to allow unrestricted aid into the war-torn Palestinian enclave.

"Famine is unfolding before our eyes. Urgent action is needed now to halt and reverse starvation," the foreign ministers of 24 countries said in a joint statement.

"We call on the government of Israel to provide authorization for all international NGO (non-governmental organizations) aid shipments and to unblock essential humanitarian actors from operating," the statement said.

[Valmy]

I don't think anybody is going to do shit for Palestine, but if somebody does it probably won't because the current Israeli government helped them do it.

[Syt]

https://apnews.com/article/qatar-explosion-doha-e319dd51b170161372442831a8023db5

Israel says it targets Hamas leadership in Qatar's capital as blast heard in Doha

JERUSALEM (AP) — An Israeli official has told The Associated Press that it targeted Hamas' leadership in Qatar's capital, Doha.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak beyond the public statement.

Qatar has condemned what it referred to as a "cowardly Israeli attack" on Hamas' political headquarters in its capital, Doha. Foreign Ministry spokesman Majed Al Ansari called it a "flagrant violation of all international laws and norms."

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP's earlier story follows below.

DOHA, Qatar (AP) — Israel's military said Tuesday it carried out an airstrike targeting Hamas leadership, without saying where.

The announcement came as an explosion could be heard in Doha, Qatar's capital.

The Qatari-funded news network Al Jazeera linked the blast to the Israeli announcement. The blast echoed in Doha, sending black smoke into the air. It wasn't immediately clear if anyone was injured in the attack.

Hamas' exiled leadership has long been based in Qatar, which has served as a mediator in talks between Hamas and Israel for several years, even before the latest war in the Gaza Strip.

A strike on its top leadership could further complicate negotiations over a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of hostages taken in Hamas' Oct. 7, 2023 attack.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP's earlier story follows below.

DOHA, Qatar (AP) — An explosion rang out Tuesday in Qatar's capital city Doha.


It wasn't immediately clear what exploded. Smoke could be seen in social media footage on the horizon.

Qatar is an energy-rich nation on the Arabian Peninsula. Al Jazeera, state-funded broadcaster, acknowledged the explosion, without elaborating. Officials in Qatar didn't immediately answer telephone calls for comment.

[Razgovory]

This is getting out of hand.

[The Minsky Moment]

Like a shark that must keep moving to live, Bibi must keep escalating conflict to stay in office and out of jail.

Not to mention that if Israel takes out enough Hamas leadership, there will be no one left with sufficient authority to negotiate, thus ensuring the conflict drags on without end.

How long will the US continue to underwrite this behavior unconditionally?

[Maladict]

As long as Trump believes he gets to build hotels in former Gaza.

[Grey Fox]

Hamas leaders, especially those outside of Gaza, don't deserve mercy.

[Josquius]

Hamas leaders, especially those outside of Gaza, don't deserve mercy.

The issue here is less hitting Hamas HQ - if only Israel could stick to hitting Hamas in Gaza there'd be far less of an issue - but launching an attack on a neutral (even "neutral") 3rd country. That's pretty messed up.

[DGuller]

Hamas leaders, especially those outside of Gaza, don't deserve mercy.

The issue here is less hitting Hamas HQ - if only Israel could stick to hitting Hamas in Gaza there'd be far less of an issue - but launching an attack on a neutral (even "neutral") 3rd country. That's pretty messed up.

That's the risk "neutral" countries take on when harboring terrorists.  It wasn't that controversial of a concept in 2001.

[Iormlund]

Yeah. The really surprising thing is that it took so long.

I'm guessing previous American administrations vetoed such a strike.