Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Richard Hakluyt]

Have a listen to this Brain, it is quite a laugh :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03zjmdp

[Hamilcar]

The Taiwanese animators do Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu7rKVxWccg

[Legbiter]

The main groups of those who voted for Brexit according to Lord Ashcroft's polls:



Plus Sikhs and Buddhists. 

[Legbiter]

It must be remembered that this isn't just a loss of one side in a little vote. It is a potential disaster for the country. When national survival is at stake then it is perfectly accepted practice to bend democracy.

[The Brain]

Have a listen to this Brain, it is quite a laugh :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03zjmdp

It's difficult to find words. On the one hand I think it's brave to actually admit publicly that you made a stupid, but I cannot understand making the stupid in the first place.

[mongers]

This is the sort of crisis that can kill some political parties and permit the rise of others.

Yes Farage is now sitting back, watching the indecision and infighting, ready to 'ride' to the rescue or at least position UKIP strongly in the evolving political landscape. 

[celedhring]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

[Liep]

What say Languish to this comment?

[Zanza]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

Make sure that the referendum result is actually implemented.

[Tamas]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

Immigrants Out.

[Zanza]

What say Languish to this comment?

Posted by Tim yesterday. I think it is a pretty good description.

[garbon]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

Immigrants Out.

I doubt that will be enough to ride them into power.

[garbon]

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn under pressure as shadow ministers quit

Jeremy Corbyn is facing a full-scale revolt by Labour's top team as a string of shadow ministers quit in protest at his leadership during the EU referendum campaign.

In a series of apparently staged announcements, seven members of the shadow cabinet said they were resigning - with others expected to follow.

Mr Corbyn's allies insisted he would not bow to pressure to stand down, but rebels warned that if he tries to carry on he would be unable to form a new shadow ministerial team.

On a day of fast-moving events, shadow education secretary Lucy Powell, shadow health secretary Heidi Alexander, shadow minister for young people Gloria De Piero, shadow environment secretary Kerry McCarthy, shadow transport secretary Lilian Greenwood, shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray and shadow Treasury chief secretary Seema Malhotra all resigned.

Shadow Northern Ireland secretary Vernon Coaker said he is considering his position, while there are reports that shadow Commons leader Chris Bryant and shadow justice secretary Lord Falconer are ready to follow.

The mass walkout was triggered by the sacking overnight of shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn amid reports that he was working to co-ordinate a coup against the Labour leader.

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell, one of Mr Corbyn's closest allies, insisted the party leader is determined to carry on.

But Ms Alexander said there are "a fair number" of other senior Labour figures considering their positions.

Asked how many could join her in resigning, she told ITV1's Peston on Sunday: "I think that there are a fair number of people who do feel similarly to me.

"I know a lot of my colleagues will be asking themselves similar questions to the one I've asked myself this morning."

The resignations came as MPs prepared to discuss a motion of no confidence in Mr Corbyn - tabled by the veteran backbencher Dame Margaret Hodge - at the weekly meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party on Monday.

It is expected to be followed by a vote of MPs in a secret ballot the next day. Although the motion has no formal standing, rebels are hoping that if it is passed his position will become untenable.

In a letter to Labour MPs, Dame Margaret warned the party could face a disaster at the polls if - as many MPs expect - the Conservatives trigger a snap general election.

"If a general election is called later this year, which is a very real prospect, we believe that under Jeremy's leadership we could be looking at political oblivion," she said.

But Mr McDonnell insisted there is no mood for a change at the top of the party among the grassroots activists who swept Mr Corbyn to the leadership and who would decide any contest.

He acknowledged, however, that a challenge may be unavoidable and said he is ready to chair Mr Corbyn's campaign committee, as he did in last year's leadership election.

"If there is a leadership election, I'm hoping that we can get that over with fairly quickly, and we can get back to business in September," he told BBC News.

"If it is triggered fairly quickly... I think we should try and get it over with in two months at least, maybe three maximum, but come back at least in October and get Jeremy back in position so we can then go straight into what could be a general election campaign."

Shadow international development secretary Diane Abbott - another of Mr Corbyn's allies - angrily accused the rebels of plotting their move for months.

"The truth about today's coup attempt is that it has been long-planned," she told BBC News.

"This has been planned for months and ordinary party members will not understand why Labour MPs want to set themselves at odds with the membership and, at this very difficult time, choose to play what are essentially Westminster games."

Mr Benn, who has been at odds with Mr Corbyn since they took opposing sides in the Commons vote on military action in Syria, said the party needs "strong and effective leadership" in the wake of the referendum vote.

"We don't currently have that and there is also no confidence that we will be able to win a general election as long as Jeremy remains leader," he told BBC1's The Andrew Marr Show.

"It is for each individual to make their own decision, I have made mine and I made my views clear to Jeremy. He is a good and decent man but he is not a leader and that is the problem."

Leaked documents suggest Mr Corbyn's team moved to delay and water down the Labour Remain campaign, the BBC reports.

[mongers]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

Use Immigrants Out as a tool to gain political power and make the UK a bastion of the extreme right.

FYP

[garbon]

What's going to be UKIP's platform now though? They essentially just achieved the party's raison d'être. Damn, it's even the name of the party.

Use Immigrants Out as a tool to gain political power and make the UK a bastion of the extreme right.

FYP

Also seems unlikely.