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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-26

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Legbiter

Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:25:33 AMVery related, the "Hungarian" "Foreign Minister" (who seems to spend more time in Russia than in Hungary, he was in Moscow just this morning, days after he accompanied Orban and was filmed sitting on the Russian delegation's side of the table being talked at by his Russian counterpart for a while), announced the "happy news" the Gazprom sub-company operating the Turkish pipeline is going to relocate to Hungary.



It personally profits the Hungarian leadership to remain loyal to Moscow but it is horrendously risky for Hungary in terms of energy security overall. The country rivals Germany in terms of getting every geostrategic/energy policy decision wrong. 
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Jacob

I literally had a dream last night that Hungary withdrew from the EU and everyone was wondering how long before Russia rolled in.

PJL

Quote from: Legbiter on Today at 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:25:33 AMVery related, the "Hungarian" "Foreign Minister" (who seems to spend more time in Russia than in Hungary, he was in Moscow just this morning, days after he accompanied Orban and was filmed sitting on the Russian delegation's side of the table being talked at by his Russian counterpart for a while), announced the "happy news" the Gazprom sub-company operating the Turkish pipeline is going to relocate to Hungary.

It personally profits the Hungarian leadership to remain loyal to Moscow but it is horrendously risky for Hungary in terms of energy security overall. The country rivals Germany in terms of getting every geostrategic/energy policy decision wrong. 

I have a bigger concern they may eventually end up being right for all the wrong reasons.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:25:22 PMI literally had a dream last night that Hungary withdrew from the EU and everyone was wondering how long before Russia rolled in.
Years, because they can't get through Ukraine.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:25:22 PMI literally had a dream last night that Hungary withdrew from the EU and everyone was wondering how long before Russia rolled in.

Wouldn't Russian want them to stay in the EU...in order to keep it paralyzed? :hmm:

Jacob

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Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 12:27:35 PMWouldn't Russian want them to stay in the EU...in order to keep it paralyzed? :hmm:

It was literally a dream... I'm not at my best in terms of geopolitical analysis when I'm sleeping  :lol:

... or @ Crazy_Ivan80, at my best in terms of geography

Tamas

Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:25:22 PMI literally had a dream last night that Hungary withdrew from the EU and everyone was wondering how long before Russia rolled in.

Wouldn't Russian want them to stay in the EU...in order to keep it paralyzed? :hmm:

Indeed, Orbán has gotten to the point in his rethoric and actions that the main reason even serious analysts can come up for him staying in the EU and NATO is that leaving them, the EU especially, would render him worthless for Russia and China, the main sponsors of his regime since the EU finally closed the massive money fountain a couple of years ago.