Star Wars - Impressions, no spoilers, just impressions!

Started by Berkut, December 16, 2015, 11:21:17 AM

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How good is the new Star Wars flick overall?

Awesome! A: Best Star Wars movie yet, Abrams and Co. found the right mix of action and story!
8 (14.3%)
B: Very, very good! Probaby not up there with the best of the series, but vastly better than any of 1/2/3, and mostly met our lofty expectations!
30 (53.6%)
C: Solid. Better than the 1/2/3 disasters, but missed on the story in some ways, not as good as 4/5/6 overall
11 (19.6%)
D: Uggh. Are we sure Lucas wasn't involved?
1 (1.8%)
F: I miss JarJar
6 (10.7%)

Total Members Voted: 55

Barrister

Quote from: Berkut on December 22, 2015, 12:06:52 PM
Quote from: Malthus on December 22, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 22, 2015, 11:57:31 AM


Meh - Jar Jar had no lines in Episode 3, and only appeared in a couple of brief scenes.  That wasn't enough to save that movie.

On a more serious note - 'just not screwing it up completely with annoying characters, wooden acting and lengthy boring exposition' guarantees a reasonably high rating for the new movie. 

It's not like it is that hard to make a decent Star Wars movie.

Lucas had to really put a lot of work into making the prequels as bad as they were...

No, I think it's hard to make a good blockbuster.  After all Hollywood has lots of experience in screwing them up.

But what TFA managed to do was get quality writers (Abrams and Lawrence freakin Kasdan), a decent enough director (I'm no huge fan, but Abrams is competent enough), together with some really good actors. 
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celedhring

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I thought the girl playing Rey is a real find. Driver [spoiler]looks maybe a bit too gangly/geeky, although that's kinda the point of the character[/spoiler]. Boyega was ok, his character isn't the best written but his banter with Rey is great.

Savonarola

Somewhere between a B and a C on the scale listed in the poll.  It's probably about as good as "Return of the Jedi".  To make a movie as good or better than "Star Wars" or "The Empire Strikes Back" would require making something very different than what we've seen before.  That's a huge risk, and one that I don't think Disney is willing to take.
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Malthus

Quote from: Savonarola on December 22, 2015, 04:44:43 PM
Somewhere between a B and a C on the scale listed in the poll.  It's probably about as good as "Return of the Jedi".  To make a movie as good or better than "Star Wars" or "The Empire Strikes Back" would require making something very different than what we've seen before.  That's a huge risk, and one that I don't think Disney is willing to take.

They are gonna have to take some risks with the second movie, though.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Malthus on December 22, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on December 22, 2015, 04:44:43 PM
Somewhere between a B and a C on the scale listed in the poll.  It's probably about as good as "Return of the Jedi".  To make a movie as good or better than "Star Wars" or "The Empire Strikes Back" would require making something very different than what we've seen before.  That's a huge risk, and one that I don't think Disney is willing to take.

They are gonna have to take some risks with the second movie, though.

"Some risks", probably; "Something very different than we've seen before", probably not.  I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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The Larch

Just watched it. I'll simmer on it and probably give it a second viewing at some point in the next few days, but at the moment I'm leaning towards B/B- territory. Good, entertaining, but too reliant on nostalgia and winks to the original movies. I certainly hope that they'll be more original in the coming films.

katmai

Quote from: Malthus on December 22, 2015, 10:28:19 AM

Yes, I was pretty shocked when they revealed Jar Jar had gone over to the Dark Side and was the new dark lord.

It could happen.

Gone over???
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Valmy

Quote from: Brezel on December 22, 2015, 11:41:04 AM
I don't understand the Star Wars hype. The last ones were shit, why should the new one get the benefit of doubt? Because Disney made it?

Well I did not decide to see it until it was vetted. I only wish I had done that with episode 1 :P
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Valmy

Quote from: The Larch on December 22, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
I certainly hope that they'll be more original in the coming films.

I wouldn't bet on it.
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Quote from: Malthus on December 22, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
They are gonna have to take some risks with the second movie, though.

You mean like they did with the Star Trek Reboot sequel :lol:

'The Bad guys from Episode VII Strike Back'
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on December 23, 2015, 12:57:57 AM
Quote from: Malthus on December 22, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
They are gonna have to take some risks with the second movie, though.

You mean like they did with the Star Trek Reboot sequel :lol:

'The Bad guys from Episode VII Strike Back'

I don't love the idea of a "reboot", but I cautiously embraced the 2009 Star Trek film.

But Star Trek Into Darkness shat on my embrace.  There's very little chance I go to see Star Trek Beyond now.  I don't think I'm the only one.

So Episode 8 doesn't need to be "risky" but surely to God they need a slightly more original screenplay than Episode 7 had.
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katmai

As far as i know it , Rian Johnson is writer for VIII? :unsure:
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celedhring

Quote from: katmai on December 23, 2015, 01:23:33 AM
As far as i know it , Rian Johnson is writer for VIII? :unsure:

Yeah. What I don't know is whether Kasdan or Abrams developed the trilogy arc.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Barrister on December 23, 2015, 01:02:11 AM
I don't love the idea of a "reboot", but I cautiously embraced the 2009 Star Trek film.

But Star Trek Into Darkness shat on my embrace.  There's very little chance I go to see Star Trek Beyond now.  I don't think I'm the only one.

I thought Into Darkness was awesome... :unsure: