#Gamergate goes off the deep end

[derspiess]

http://boingboing.net/2014/10/22/adobe-walks-into-gamergate-st.html

[Ed Anger]

Wait, gawker?

I STAND WITH THE NECKBEARDS

[merithyn]

Right.... it's all about integrity in journalism.... No war on women... don't be ridiculous...

LINK

Gamer and actor Felicia Day has had her personal details posted online just minutes after making her first public statement about Gamergate – in which she expressed fear about saying anything at all, in case she was targeted as a result.

The publicising of her details was fiercely criticised by a former American football star Chris Kluwe who also criticised the group in the strongest possible terms this week, who pointed out the gender imbalance among those targeted.

The publication of Day's details is being seen as further strengthening the criticism that Gamergate's partcipants are pursuing an anti-woman agenda, which has seen female game developers and journalists harassed and threatened, while male critics have been almost untouched.

Day, who appeared in the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Supernatural, and rose to fame as the writer and lead of online gaming sitcom The Guild, had previously said little about the grassroots campaign against feminism in gaming, "aside from a few replies on Twitter that journalists have decided to use in their articles, siding me against the hashtag".

But, says Day, who has 2.3 million followers on Twitter, "I realised my silence on the issue was not motivated by some grand strategy, but out of fear that the issue has created about speaking out."

She explained that her major fear was being "doxxed" – having her personal information disseminated over the internet. "I have tried to retweet a few of the articles I've seen dissecting the issue in support, but personally I am terrified to be doxxed for even typing the words 'gamer gate'. I have had stalkers and restraining orders issued in the past, I have had people show up on my doorstep when my personal information was hard to get."

But just minutes after her post was made, a commenter with the username "gaimerg8" posted what they claimed was her address and personal email in the comment section below the post. The comment, and the entire comment section, have since been removed.

Many have pointed to the immediate doxxing received by Day to underscore the differing treatment experienced by men and women who speak out against gamergate. The former NFL star Chris Kluwe, whose own post against Gamergate went viral after he called members of the group "slackjawed pickletits", "slopebrowed weaseldicks" and a "basement-dwelling, cheetos-huffing, poopsock-sniffing douchepistol", made the point himself.

"None of you fucking #gamergate tools tried to dox me, even after I tore you a new one. I'm not even a tough target," he tweeted. "Instead, you go after a woman who wrote why your movement concerns her."

[garbon]

Random side note (as I think my opinion on this should be obvious enough) but I think the Guardian cheapened their article by noting so much on the reaction by Chris Kluwe. One he generally seems like an ass and two, in order to report on something that happened to a woman, does one need to note the reaction of a man?

[merithyn]

Random side note (as I think my opinion on this should be obvious enough) but I think the Guardian cheapened their article by noting so much on the reaction by Chris Kluwe. One he generally seems like an ass and two, in order to report on something that happened to a woman, does one need to note the reaction of a man?

Meh. It's The Guardian.

My point was that, as The Guardian says, it's only the women speaking up that are being "punished" by #Gamergate. The argument before was that this had nothing to do with any kind of attack on women, and everything to do with a group of people being upset about a lack of integrity in journalism.

Maybe not so much...

[garbon]

Random side note (as I think my opinion on this should be obvious enough) but I think the Guardian cheapened their article by noting so much on the reaction by Chris Kluwe. One he generally seems like an ass and two, in order to report on something that happened to a woman, does one need to note the reaction of a man?

Meh. It's The Guardian.

My point was that, as The Guardian says, it's only the women speaking up that are being "punished" by #Gamergate. The argument before was that this had nothing to do with any kind of attack on women, and everything to do with a group of people being upset about a lack of integrity in journalism.

Maybe not so much...

I wasn't disagreeing.

[Neil]

Of course they're focusing on the women.  The women are the ones who they see as persecuting them.

[LaCroix]

article is wrong -- male critics have been attacked. phil fish, for example. i'm sure more women have been attacked than men, because that just makes sense. the movement erupted over intense hatred for a group that largely contains women. so, women who attack the movement would be seen as the enemy. it's more motivation for the individuals who do these sorts of things to spend time finding personal info on a female critic rather than some random male celebrity. plus, it's felicia day. tons of people on that site hate her.

[Legbiter]

Right.... it's all about integrity in journalism.... No war on women... don't be ridiculous...

[garbon]

[Neil]

Taking into account that I consider one's gender to be immutably set at birth, would I consider a trans woman to be a man or a woman?  The language that all these people use with their 'cis' and their 'POC' escapes me.

[Eddie Teach]

Taking into account that I consider one's gender to be immutably set at birth, would I consider a trans woman to be a man or a woman? 

A man.

[derspiess]

Right.... it's all about integrity in journalism.... No war on women... don't be ridiculous...

There seems to be a large number of pro-#gamergate women, though.  Are they at war with themselves?  Oh, what's that term-- "internalized misogyny"?

[Ed Anger]

Ugh, John Scalzi. What a fruitcake.

[merithyn]

Right.... it's all about integrity in journalism.... No war on women... don't be ridiculous...

There seems to be a large number of pro-#gamergate women, though.  Are they at war with themselves?  Oh, what's that term-- "internalized misogyny"?

Odd. I'd not heard any numbers on either side. I know that there are some women pro-#gamergate, though I've only seen the names of less than a handful. It seems disingenuous to say there are a "large number" of them, however.

On the flip side, I've seen several women who claim to have at one time supported what they believed #gamergate to be about, only to give up on them with all of the doxxing and harassment going on. (Men, too, but you brought up the women.)

The reality is that the most damage is being done to women who are speaking out against them. I find it odd that anyone can or would argue that.