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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on March 27, 2025, 09:22:43 AMThat's what I've always done in the US.  My vote might be inconsequential in the sea of opposing votes, but I still think it's important to register the anonymous public support for what I think should win.
I've never lived in a swing seat -  where I live now went 60% Labour, 20% Green and 7% Lib Dem - the Tories and Reform collectively got about 10% - and in Brexit was top 20 pro-Remain at about 75% :lol:

So while I would vote tactically to beat a Tory or Reform winner in a marginal seat, I have been pretty promiscuous in my votes and protest votes. Almost always in a Labour seat - but I've definitely voted Labour, Lib Dem, Green, Trade Union and Socialist Coalition etc :ph34r:
Let's bomb Russia!

Neil

I got a kick out of the vote compass.  Economically I ended up pretty close to the Liberals, but my social conservatism has me down with the CPC.  I suppose my willingness to tolerate deficit spending for the moment and dislike for tax cuts keep me from fitting in over there. 
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on March 27, 2025, 09:36:26 AM

Huh.

Posting on this board must be making me more Canadian as time goes on.
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 :hmm:

Lots of I don't know answers, to be honest. Namely those about the politicians.

Neil

The politicians are pretty uninspiring.  Carney and Poilievre are uninspiring in similar ways, being your standard centrist politicians whose beliefs are mostly shaped by American inputs.  Singh is your classic champagne socialist, only less charismatic and without any leadership qualities.  May is a drunk who thinks that wi-fi, oil, US foreign policy, Jews and vaccines all cause autism.  Maxime Bernier aspires to be Orban, but is so incompetent that he makes Pete Hegseth look like George Marshall.  Peneault is an utter irrelevancy, as he's co-leader of May's party, and that party is her ego project. 
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HVC

Mays also and American infiltrator :ph34r:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

mongers

Quote from: HVC on March 27, 2025, 03:55:14 PMMays also and American infiltrator :ph34r:

Reds under the bed is gone, maybe trumpster under the bed would work or maybe not?

I think the stink would give them away, rather like that time one of the cats got into the next doors shed, then into the rabbit cage, took it out, removed it to our upstairs spare room, the door unfortunately having been left open as was the upstairs toilet door. Took me a while to figure out the stink upstairs wasn't from some uncouth having just used the toilet, but that it was from the ritually disembowel large pet rabbit underneath the spare bed.  :x

 Anyway, that's a long-winded way of me saying that's how these 5th columnists make me feel, they stink to high heaven.
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Bauer

Quote from: Neil on March 27, 2025, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 26, 2025, 09:06:13 PMLet's end our 100% tariff on Chinese cars right now.
Indeed.  The perfect solution to America's attacks on our economy is to run into the arms of somebody even worse than Trump. 

Yes, we're angry because the United States betrayed us, but allowing China to destroy us to 'own the Yanks' isn't a good move. 

I think Prosperity lies in being a small open economy.  Cheaper prices for consumers and increased competition breads better companies domestically. 

Having said that China has massive government support and excess production in a lot of their industries so that's not going to work.

Bauer

So far I'm having a hard time understanding how to separate conservative and liberal plans to decide how to vote.  I am not interested in any of the noise (security clearance, Brookfield assets, etc) that political campaigns unfortunately lower themselves into...

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 27, 2025, 08:44:48 AMI'd rather take the percentage of whatever we paid out in subsidies to Tesla vehicles and add it to Euro evs. But we've had this conversation before :D

Aren't you already.  In the US the "Tesla subsidy" is a tax credit for anyone who buys an EV.  Does Canada have a Tesla specific subsidy?

HVC

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 27, 2025, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 27, 2025, 08:44:48 AMI'd rather take the percentage of whatever we paid out in subsidies to Tesla vehicles and add it to Euro evs. But we've had this conversation before :D

Aren't you already.  In the US the "Tesla subsidy" is a tax credit for anyone who buys an EV.  Does Canada have a Tesla specific subsidy?

It was across the board, but like GF said it's come to an end. What I ineloquently tried to say was that if brought back it should be increased by whatever amount Tesla's used to get as part of the equation. So, for example, if Teslas used to account for 50% percent of all rebates than we should disqualify Tesla's but increase the per vehicle rebate of existing vehicles by 100%. Same cost. Math would change based on percentage. I just used a simple number lol
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 12:11:54 AMIt was across the board, but like GF said it's come to an end. What I ineloquently tried to say was that if brought back it should be increased by whatever amount Tesla's used to get as part of the equation. So, for example, if Teslas used to account for 50% percent of all rebates than we should disqualify Tesla's but increase the per vehicle rebate of existing vehicles by 100%. Same cost. Math would change based on percentage. I just used a simple number lol

Got it.  Makes sense.  Go for it.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:17:20 PMSo far I'm having a hard time understanding how to separate conservative and liberal plans to decide how to vote.  I am not interested in any of the noise (security clearance, Brookfield assets, etc) that political campaigns unfortunately lower themselves into...

You can use more traditional ways of separation between the parties.

What's your opinion on abortion?
Small government or big government?
USA style healthcare or Universal healthcare?
Etc.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:17:20 PMSo far I'm having a hard time understanding how to separate conservative and liberal plans to decide how to vote.  I am not interested in any of the noise (security clearance, Brookfield assets, etc) that political campaigns unfortunately lower themselves into...

The main difference so far is the Conservatives will use tariff revenue to cut taxes and the liberals will use the revenue to support displaced workers.

A more subtle difference is the Liberals have committed to more military spending.


Josephus

Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:17:20 PMSo far I'm having a hard time understanding how to separate conservative and liberal plans to decide how to vote.  I am not interested in any of the noise (security clearance, Brookfield assets, etc) that political campaigns unfortunately lower themselves into...

I think there's very little difference beteeen the two. Both are promising a lot of the same things. I've said before, this is an election between the most appealing of two fiscal conservatives. 
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011