[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Grey Fox]

I did take the bait.

BB is right tho. Most if not all explicitly banning abortion bills were introduced by Liberal MPs or Senators.

I wonder why todays conservative are using insidious tactics instead of being forthright?

[Bauer]

With respect t Bauer, I will suggest that neither security clearances nor Brookfield are "noise", albeit they may not be the thing that decides his, or anyone else's, vote.

I disagree, I think they are noise in the sense they are meaningless to the real decision point.  For me the only things that should really matter in the end are what the policies are and how they intend to implement them.

For Brookfield asset disclosure etc,  it seems normal to me that any successful person in the private sector will have a history of conflicts of interests and will go through a process of disclosing them, putting assets  into trust etc.  it's also normal they may not want to divulge their entire personal histories before completing the process.  Seems like a non issue to me.

For the security clearance, Mulcair has commented on this quite a bit (surprisingly impartially), he thinks the liberal attacks on this issue have been a parliamentary stunt.  PP's job as opposition leader is to demand answers from government and if he goes behind the security umbrella then he's unable to fulfil that responsibility.  Which seems reasonable then to refuse it, although I think as he gets closer to being a potential prime minster it's not really a good look for PP...

[Admiral Yi]

CTV interviewing Americans (who look like Trump voters) about the tariffs.

[crazy canuck]

Canada388 now says there is an 85% chance of a Liberal majority

[Josephus]

Canada388 now says there is an 85% chance of a Liberal majority

Yup....but the election is not today, so, as I've said before, really means nothing.

If anything, some centrists, centre-rightists might vote Conservative to prevent a majority government. "I don't want PP to win, but I don't want a majority gov't either."

[crazy canuck]

Canada388 now says there is an 85% chance of a Liberal majority

Yup....but the election is not today, so, as I've said before, really means nothing.

If anything, some centrists, centre-rightists might vote Conservative to prevent a majority government. "I don't want PP to win, but I don't want a majority gov't either."

I think it is unlikely centrists will not want a centrist to form a majority government, especially now.

[Bauer]

This article was pretty good describing why Carneys all in Canada auto sector wouldn't work.  Manufacturing is too specialized.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/mark-carneys-wildly-unworkable-plan-for-an-all-in-canada-auto-sector

I also thought PP's Canadian TFSA investment announcement was pretty lame and unlikely to work.

I feel like the path forward is more east west infrastructure, more competitive environment for international business (permits, taxes, etc), and building better trade relationships with all non-US democracies. And of course we have to end all the provincial barriers, which is scandalous they have existed this long...

[viper37]

But because there are anti-vax people in the crowds, clearly the CPC is anti-vax.

It's not a secret agenda Barrister, it's in the open:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-anti-vaccine-mandate-bill-1.7007562

Pierre Poilievre Says He Wants to 'Welcome' Anti-Vax People's Party Supporters Back to the Conservative Party



The anti-abortion legislation they are trying to pass are gradual steps to restrict abortion rights, just like States did in the US before finally overturning Roe. v. Wade.



Once upon a time, the Conservative Party would have refused any far right person to associate with the party.  Now, they are welcome:
Canadian MAGA hats, knives and e-cigarettes among items confiscated from Poilievre rallies



And to top it off, there's the aimless leadership.  The campaign is going nowhere as it has no preparation:
Jenni is in charge, that's all you need to know

Jenni is the lead political organizer that you can often see photographed with her MAGA hat.

[viper37]

This article was pretty good describing why Carneys all in Canada auto sector wouldn't work.  Manufacturing is too specialized.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/mark-carneys-wildly-unworkable-plan-for-an-all-in-canada-auto-sector

I also thought PP's Canadian TFSA investment announcement was pretty lame and unlikely to work.

I feel like the path forward is more east west infrastructure, more competitive environment for international business (permits, taxes, etc), and building better trade relationships with all non-US democracies.

We have everything we need to make it work.  Except capital and the size of the market...
We can have one car model, one truck model, one suv model, but not as much variety as we have now, the sales won't be there to justify the investments.

And of course we have to end all the provincial barriers, which is scandalous they have existed this long...

Apparently, Carney, has convinced the provinces to drop all remaining barriers by July 1st.  I'm not holding my breath on that.

I can see the trade barriers on alcohol dropping, with the loss of American products, we all need some more varieties.  So finally, it's happening.

Some construction workers can work in Quebec, provided they are Red Seal, or fill other requirements, but it's still a bit complicated (you can't just move here and start working; then again, you can't just move from one area in Quebec and work from there, you have to file new documents and get a temporary card showing your new address).

I don't see this working that fast for nurses, doctors, engineers, architects and any kind of work regulated by a professional order.  If it's not already allowed for them to work in another province, it will require regulatory changes in their orders and a change in each provincial laws.

There will be a need to harmonize qualifications for some trades.  Like truck drivers.  Ontario gives a truck driver license to just about anyone who asks it.  They go to school for one week, get their drivers license, don't know jack shit about operating these 18 wheelers, but they drive all over Canada.  They have no idea what any sign in Quebec means, but they're allowed to drive here no problems and cause accidents.

Then, there's the French...  Will Canadian companies agree to comply to our laws or will they challenge it in court?  They need to have their transactional websites in French, they need instructions for their products in French, they need labels in French for their wine/beer/whisky bottles, etc.

I expect a lot of bitching, as usual.

[HVC]

I don't think I've ever seen anything labeled that doesn't have french on it. Is that a thing? Maybe further west?

[viper37]

Poilievre condemnded the german politician, said his own MPs didn't know the German politician's politics and regretted the meeting - but no that's not good enough, Viper demands those politicians need to be fired.

They went to Germany to meet with the politician, but they didn't know who they were meeting?

Ah, come on.

We're not talking about a picture with a random stranger during a public event that happens to be criminal.

He watches every movement of his MPs, every whispers, forbids them to talk to opposition parties, yet, they were allowed to fraternize with far right politicians from another country without him knowing anything beforehand about the trip?
 "Everybody is being watched. What we say, what we do, who we talk to. We're told not to fraternize with MPs from the other parties. And that's not normal," a Conservative source said."
Source

Am I so unfair?

He invites radicals into his party, he watches every movement of his MPs, but then when shits hits the fans, he pretends he didn't know anything.

[viper37]

I don't think I've ever seen anything labeled that doesn't have french on it. Is that a thing? Maybe further west?

Alcohol bottles for micro-breweries or small wineries, maybe?  I've read that it was an issue last time around when they tried negotiating.

I have not traveled in a while, and my last trip was with my father.  Didn't have time to stop anywhere but Louisbourg.  Everything was obviously bilingual there.

Anyway, language was a big issue, according to Philippe Couillard, former Premier.  There were still, IIRC, 270 problematic regulations for Quebec, a bit less for Ontario, and Alberta was the least offender.  The Maritimes are close to having their own free trade space, apparently.

Obviously, each Provincial alcohol agency isn't too keen on deregulation, including la SAQ.  Now, Quebec doesn't mind when New-Brunswickers or Ontarians cross the border to buy in Quebec, and our police never watch people who cross the provincial border to buy something (who in his right mind would? ), but OPP had the reputation of watching Ottawa bridges on Sundays and arrest citizens driving back with visible beer packs on their seats and fine them heavily.  Same for NB.  Or just a random arrest in the past and checking them for alcohol.  No longer constitutional though.  It was a good source of income for the provinces.

But for the SAQ, letting us order wine online is a big issue, especially as their sales are already declining.

Prices and taxes will have to be adjusted nationwide on products that are sold everywhere if they want to remain competitive.  That bothers them.

[Bauer]

There should not be any provincial regulation on professions (or at least not synchronized regulations), trucking regulations, etc. it's huge incompetence of our federal and provincial leaders this has been allowed for so long.  We should be trying to streamline professional requirements to allow skilled foreign workers to integrate into our economy in this day and age, and it turns out we can't even remove barriers internally?  Its unacceptable.

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

[Grey Fox]

Because their credentials are either lies or from university/country that have different teaching standards.

No one is getting records out of Algeria to check credentials for nursing or well anything.

Medical school in Romania is not equivalent to Medical School in France is not equivalent to Medical School in Canada. In that particular field, Euros school focus on rote knowledge vs USA/Canada focus on practical knowledge.

[viper37]

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

Do you feel confident having a complex surgery performed by someone trained in Myanmar or Lybia, with no other qualifications?