[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[viper37]

The Conservatives are taking another page from US politics, straight out of MAGA playbook:

We still don't know what it was all about.  Was she right?  Was she wrong?  What is it she said that inflamed passions on the Conservative's side?

[Bauer]

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

Do you feel confident having a complex surgery performed by someone trained in Myanmar or Lybia, with no other qualifications?

I never specified the country or the tasks they may be performing.  Even nurses from Japan for example, with years of experience, essentially need to repeat their entire degree to practise in Canada.

[crazy canuck]

This article was pretty good describing why Carneys all in Canada auto sector wouldn't work.  Manufacturing is too specialized.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/mark-carneys-wildly-unworkable-plan-for-an-all-in-canada-auto-sector

I also thought PP's Canadian TFSA investment announcement was pretty lame and unlikely to work.

I feel like the path forward is more east west infrastructure, more competitive environment for international business (permits, taxes, etc), and building better trade relationships with all non-US democracies. And of course we have to end all the provincial barriers, which is scandalous they have existed this long...

Agreed, I am interested in leaning the details of the 5B trade infrastructure announcement Carney made today.

[crazy canuck]

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

Do you feel confident having a complex surgery performed by someone trained in Myanmar or Lybia, with no other qualifications?

I never specified the country or the tasks they may be performing.  Even nurses from Japan for example, with years of experience, essentially need to repeat their entire degree to practise in Canada.

That is not accurate. Both the college of physicians and surgeons and the college of nurses in BC allow people to prove their credentials without having to redo their degrees.

[viper37]

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

Do you feel confident having a complex surgery performed by someone trained in Myanmar or Lybia, with no other qualifications?

I never specified the country or the tasks they may be performing.  Even nurses from Japan for example, with years of experience, essentially need to repeat their entire degree to practise in Canada.

It's going to depend on language skills and country of origin.


It's not a blanket "everyone in" or "everyone out", but I agree that a lot more efforts could be made.

[Neil]

The TFSA announcement doesn't do much for me.  It's something precisely targeted for exactly the sort of person who doesn't need a tax break.  Sure, I benefit from it because it's trivially easy for me to max my TFSA no matter where it is, but what's the national benefit of turning all that middle-class taxable revenue into tax-free revenue?  Especially since most of the money in TFSAs probably isn't going to be invested in Canada.  I feel like he's just taking a strategy that was popular for Harper in peacetime, and he's throwing it out there. 

Of course, Carney's idea about doing auto manufacturing all in Canada is pretty much unworkable.  For one thing, cars designed by a someone who prioritizes climate action aren't going to work, but even more importantly there's a lot of things that go into modern automobiles that Canada just has no experience with.  It's far more practical to try and partner with Japan or even South Korea than it would be to try and create some kind of a Maple Yugo. 

[Josephus]

The TFSA announcement doesn't do much for me.  It's something precisely targeted for exactly the sort of person who doesn't need a tax break.  Sure, I benefit from it because it's trivially easy for me to max my TFSA no matter where it is, but what's the national benefit of turning all that middle-class taxable revenue into tax-free revenue?  Especially since most of the money in TFSAs probably isn't going to be invested in Canada.  I feel like he's just taking a strategy that was popular for Harper in peacetime, and he's throwing it out there. 

Yeah, it's kind of a disconnect.  "I know many of you may be laid off because of the trade war, but that's OK, I'm gonna make so you can invest more of your extra money tax free."

[Josephus]

Canada388 now says there is an 85% chance of a Liberal majority

Yup....but the election is not today, so, as I've said before, really means nothing.

If anything, some centrists, centre-rightists might vote Conservative to prevent a majority government. "I don't want PP to win, but I don't want a majority gov't either."

I think it is unlikely centrists will not want a centrist to form a majority government, especially now.

But the other reality is this: The Liberals are doing well, not so much because the Conservatives are losing support but because the NDP is. And the Conservatives need a strong NDP in order to win, in our first past the post system. When progressives in ridings split their votes between the Liberals and the NDP, the Conservatives win seats.

Now how does this play out in the statement about the polling?

Progressives, for want of another word, may have flocked to the Liberals in order to defeat the Conservatives.

For instance.Say for example that traditionally I vote NDP. Now a month ago, I might have said...hmm...I like the NDP, not a huge fan of Carney, but God forbid Pollievre wins, so I'll vote Liberal.

Now I might say...hmmm...looks like polls are showing the Liberals have this one in the bag, I can afford to support my local NDP candidate and hopefully they win a few seats.

Now I may know that this is self-defeating, but many might not.

[crazy canuck]

The TFSA announcement doesn't do much for me.  It's something precisely targeted for exactly the sort of person who doesn't need a tax break.  Sure, I benefit from it because it's trivially easy for me to max my TFSA no matter where it is, but what's the national benefit of turning all that middle-class taxable revenue into tax-free revenue?  Especially since most of the money in TFSAs probably isn't going to be invested in Canada.  I feel like he's just taking a strategy that was popular for Harper in peacetime, and he's throwing it out there. 

Of course, Carney's idea about doing auto manufacturing all in Canada is pretty much unworkable.  For one thing, cars designed by a someone who prioritizes climate action aren't going to work, but even more importantly there's a lot of things that go into modern automobiles that Canada just has no experience with.  It's far more practical to try and partner with Japan or even South Korea than it would be to try and create some kind of a Maple Yugo. 

What part of car manufacturing does Canada have no experience with?

[crazy canuck]

Canada388 now says there is an 85% chance of a Liberal majority

Yup....but the election is not today, so, as I've said before, really means nothing.

If anything, some centrists, centre-rightists might vote Conservative to prevent a majority government. "I don't want PP to win, but I don't want a majority gov't either."

I think it is unlikely centrists will not want a centrist to form a majority government, especially now.

But the other reality is this: The Liberals are doing well, not so much because the Conservatives are losing support but because the NDP is. And the Conservatives need a strong NDP in order to win, in our first past the post system. When progressives in ridings split their votes between the Liberals and the NDP, the Conservatives win seats.

Now how does this play out in the statement about the polling?

Progressives, for want of another word, may have flocked to the Liberals in order to defeat the Conservatives.

For instance.Say for example that traditionally I vote NDP. Now a month ago, I might have said...hmm...I like the NDP, not a huge fan of Carney, but God forbid Pollievre wins, so I'll vote Liberal.

Now I might say...hmmm...looks like polls are showing the Liberals have this one in the bag, I can afford to support my local NDP candidate and hopefully they win a few seats.

Now I may know that this is self-defeating, but many might not.

The liberals have taken from both the conservatives and the NDP. According to the Canada 388 site it's about equal.

[Bauer]

I also blame the professional colleges for a lot of this.  How is it that doctors and nurses who practised for years in other countries cannot work in Canada?  Surely they could have a work under limited scope license whiles getting fully accredited here.

Do you feel confident having a complex surgery performed by someone trained in Myanmar or Lybia, with no other qualifications?

I never specified the country or the tasks they may be performing.  Even nurses from Japan for example, with years of experience, essentially need to repeat their entire degree to practise in Canada.

That is not accurate. Both the college of physicians and surgeons and the college of nurses in BC allow people to prove their credentials without having to redo their degrees.

Maybe I'm wrong or out of date, but I recall articles describing this credential recognition being so arduous that people were practically repeating their degrees.

Regardless, the point i was trying to make is that these colleges have a lot of unnecessary barriers on registration, fees, etc and people shouldn't have to go through any red tape if moving between provinces.  For immigrants there needs to be reasonable and transparent process else the country is letting them down.

I actually think there's big opportunity to attract skilled American immigrants right now... apparent lots of female doctors are considering it the way the reproductive rights situation is going.

[crazy canuck]

Foreign trained doctors can apply for a six week assessment to gain their accreditation in BC. There is a similar assessment system for foreign nurses.

It is very easy for both doctors and nurses in A
Canada to work anywhere in North America.

[Zoupa]

I had to redo my certification for pharmacist when moving from Qc to BC. I also had to take the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL).

Somehow I didn't bitch and moan about being tested for the majority language of the place I was moving to. Hint hint Qc anglo snowflakes.

[Neil]

What part of car manufacturing does Canada have no experience with?

Design.

[crazy canuck]

What part of car manufacturing does Canada have no experience with?

Design.

Try again