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Started by Eddie Teach, January 12, 2025, 11:01:28 PM

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Who is the greatest NBA player of all time?

Wilt Chamberlain
1 (4.5%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3 (13.6%)
Michael Jordan
9 (40.9%)
Koby Bryant
0 (0%)
LeBron James
3 (13.6%)
Someone else
1 (4.5%)
IDGAF
5 (22.7%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Maladict

Quote from: celedhring on January 16, 2025, 02:09:54 PMI'll pitch in to discuss the GOAT film career.

Wilt Chamberlain: Conan the Destroyer
MJ: Space Jam
LeBron: Space Jam 2
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: Airplane!, Game of Death (and a bunch of cameos).

Kareem carries this one comfortably.

Kobe won an Oscar  :ph34r:

Barrister

Quote from: Maladict on January 16, 2025, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: celedhring on January 16, 2025, 02:09:54 PMI'll pitch in to discuss the GOAT film career.

Wilt Chamberlain: Conan the Destroyer
MJ: Space Jam
LeBron: Space Jam 2
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: Airplane!, Game of Death (and a bunch of cameos).

Kareem carries this one comfortably.

Kobe won an Oscar  :ph34r:

That's a good response! :o
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2025, 06:22:50 AMBill Russel, who surprisingly didn't get shortlisted here.

I saw a YouTube video where the guy scoured interviews of current & former NBA players being asked this question. These were the guys who received votes.
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celedhring

Quote from: Maladict on January 16, 2025, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: celedhring on January 16, 2025, 02:09:54 PMI'll pitch in to discuss the GOAT film career.

Wilt Chamberlain: Conan the Destroyer
MJ: Space Jam
LeBron: Space Jam 2
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: Airplane!, Game of Death (and a bunch of cameos).

Kareem carries this one comfortably.

Kobe won an Oscar  :ph34r:

Forgot about him  :D

But I don't think anybody on here (or the world at large) will care much for a 5-minute animated film, as good as it might be.

celedhring

FWIW I think that the best film performance by an NBA player is Ryan Allen in He Got Game, but I don't think he'll be in any GOAT conversation.

Honorary mention for Kevin Garnett in Uncut Gems, but he's playing himself  :P

jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 15, 2025, 04:12:35 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 15, 2025, 12:46:59 PMThis always comes up in GOAT discussions though - peak performance versus career length.

Agreed, LeBron and Abdul-Jabbar are best candidates on career value. LeBron's year-to-year consistency, in particular, is extraordinary.  The only thing I can think of that comparable is Eddie Collins in baseball.

Kareem and LeBron are 1 and 2 in Win Shares and the rest aren't close.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_career.html
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 16, 2025, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2025, 06:22:50 AMBill Russel, who surprisingly didn't get shortlisted here.

I saw a YouTube video where the guy scoured interviews of current & former NBA players being asked this question. These were the guys who received votes.

On YouTube you say, a guy on YouTube?  Well then he must have been right.

grumbler

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 17, 2025, 08:38:20 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 16, 2025, 10:45:29 PMI saw a YouTube video where the guy scoured interviews of current & former NBA players being asked this question. These were the guys who received votes.

On YouTube you say, a guy on YouTube?  Well then he must have been right.

This isn't an issue of "right" and "wrong."  It's just an issue of what criteria ET used to compile the list.  If you personally think that his choices are "wrong," then just start your own poll with your own "right" choices. It's free.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: grumbler on January 17, 2025, 09:00:25 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 17, 2025, 08:38:20 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 16, 2025, 10:45:29 PMI saw a YouTube video where the guy scoured interviews of current & former NBA players being asked this question. These were the guys who received votes.

On YouTube you say, a guy on YouTube?  Well then he must have been right.

This isn't an issue of "right" and "wrong."  It's just an issue of what criteria ET used to compile the list.  If you personally think that his choices are "wrong," then just start your own poll with your own "right" choices. It's free.

Or, and hear me out on this, I can say that any list of the NBA players that does not contain one of the greatest NBA players isn't good list.

And I can criticize somebody for deciding who to put on the list for simply following some guy on YouTube.

Further, if you wanted to think about this a little deeper, you might contemplate how people are affected by what they see on social media.

Eddie Teach

Bill Russell himself called Wilt the greatest. Also he never averaged 20 points. Awesome defender though.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 17, 2025, 04:38:50 PMBill Russell himself called Wilt the greatest. Also he never averaged 20 points. Awesome defender though.

Yeah, JR's contention that Wilt was the greatest has a lot of merit to it. One of the endearing things about Russell is he was very modest.  He never claimed any status for himself. He was always a team first kind of player. Which, I suppose, is why I always argue his case when threads like this come up.

And to JR's point about The Admiral, another characteristic Russell and him had in common.