[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[viper37]

I'm getting a lot of stolen valour type ads about carney. Namely Harper saying that Carney is taking credit for Jim Flaherty's work and how dare you do that to a dead man who can't defend himself.

Already debunked on X by someone who was there, in the same room.  They're gasping at straws.

The fact that Harper is willing to further tarnish his legacy for Poilievre doesn't make me like or respect the Conservative Party more.

He himself publish a letter in 2012 thanking Carney for his service during the 2008 economic crisis.

I am disappointed in Harper, to say the least.

[mongers]

I liked what Carney said:

"Donald Trump thinks he can weaken us with his plan to divide and conquer. Pierre Poilievre will leave us divided and ready to be conquered because a person who worships at the altar of Donald Trump will kneel before him, not stand up to him," he says.

And impressed with what Mr.Singh* said congratulating Carney and highlighting putting country before party politics:

Jagmeet Singh, leader of Canada's New Democratic Party, has congratulated Carney on his win in a post on X.

Singh writes that Canadians are counting on political leaders "to fight for them in these challenging times".

"We will disagree on many ideas, priorities and policies - but we should always stand united in protecting our country from the threat posed by Donald Trump," he says.

* Where does his party sit in the political spectrum?

[HVC]

NDP is to the left of the liberals. Liberals themselves are left of center compared to Europe (but far left compared to the US)

[HVC]

I'm getting a lot of stolen valour type ads about carney. Namely Harper saying that Carney is taking credit for Jim Flaherty's work and how dare you do that to a dead man who can't defend himself.

Already debunked on X by someone who was there, in the same room.  They're gasping at straws.

The fact that Harper is willing to further tarnish his legacy for Poilievre doesn't make me like or respect the Conservative Party more.

He himself publish a letter in 2012 thanking Carney for his service during the 2008 economic crisis.

I am disappointed in Harper, to say the least.

He has fallen quite a bit, hasn't he?

[HVC]

[Sheilbh]

Pretty much. We'll see. I don't want to be too optimistic, but I do have some hope.

Sounds realistic. Swings like that in polls mean volatility and difficult to be predictable. But it makes perfect sense there'd be a rally round the flag effect.

I also think politics is really difficult. 99% of the time election campaigns don't matter but they are testing of leaders in different ways than anything else and when they matter - especially with volatility - very unexpected things can happen.

[crazy canuck]

Not sure where you pulled that percentage from. But it has no relationship to Canada where elections have been very consequential.

[Neil]

Carney, Poilievre, whatever.  The big news is that Team Alberta won the Brier.

[Zoupa]

Not sure where you pulled that percentage from. But it has no relationship to Canada where elections have been very consequential.

He's saying (I think) that campaigns rarely matter, not that elections don't.

[Josephus]

NDP is to the left of the liberals. Liberals themselves are left of center compared to Europe (but far left compared to the US)

I think Carney will move them closer to centre, than "left of centre". I think the next election will be a choice between a conservative and a Conservative.

[viper37]

NDP is to the left of the liberals. Liberals themselves are left of center compared to Europe (but far left compared to the US)

I think Carney will move them closer to centre, than "left of centre". I think the next election will be a choice between a conservative and a Conservative.

Depends on which policies you think of.

Socially, closer to the left of centre.

Economically, closer to centre.

[Josephus]

NDP is to the left of the liberals. Liberals themselves are left of center compared to Europe (but far left compared to the US)

I think Carney will move them closer to centre, than "left of centre". I think the next election will be a choice between a conservative and a Conservative.

Depends on which policies you think of.

Socially, closer to the left of centre.

Economically, closer to centre.

Yeah, for sure. Except economically I'd say right of centre

[crazy canuck]

Not sure where you pulled that percentage from. But it has no relationship to Canada where elections have been very consequential.

He's saying (I think) that campaigns rarely matter, not that elections don't.

Right and in Canada election campaigns do matter. 

When Harper called an election the NDP were ahead in the polls.  The NDP strategy was to attract the Liberal vote.  During the election the Liberals came from nowhere to win - to pick but one example.

Also, now that Carney has won the leadership contest with 86% of the vote, we can put Sheilbh's view that he would not be a successful politician to rest.