A brand new thread, nicely timed for your post-Xmas-binge-eating-guilt-trip. :cry:
Ladies and gentlemen, set your targets for 2013. :cool:
Go under 200 lbs. Cut back on soda drastically. Learn to surf.
Damnit, Mal. You couldn't give it just a few more days?? :glare:
Okay. Here we go:
- Lose the last 25 pounds
- Run a 10k in the spring
- Run/walk a half-marathon in the summer
- Run a half-marathon in the fall
- Clean up my eating habits ... again *sighs*
Quote from: merithyn on December 24, 2012, 10:11:10 AM
Damnit, Mal. You couldn't give it just a few more days?? :glare:
Okay. Here we go:
- Lose the last 25 pounds
- Run a 10k in the spring
- Run/walk a half-marathon in the summer
- Run a half-marathon in the fall
- Clean up my eating habits ... again *sighs*
:thumbsup:
Go for Girl.
My fitness goal for 2013 is trying not to die, preferably in a non-stupid or embarrassing manner.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
My fitness goal for 2013 is trying not to die, preferably in a non-stupid or embarrassing manner.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 24, 2012, 09:53:35 AM
Cut back on soda drastically.
That's a lot easier than you think, and you'd be surprised at the pounds you'll lose just by laying off that shit and not doing anything else.
That stuff is so bad for you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 24, 2012, 09:53:35 AM
Cut back on soda drastically.
That's a lot easier than you think, and you'd be surprised at the pounds you'll lose just by laying off that shit and not doing anything else.
That stuff is so bad for you.
Yeah, it's kinda hard to understand why it's taken hold so much.
I'm going to try to make 2013 a better fitness year.
I gave up normal cola a long time ago, but I'd like to kick diet too. Right now I have myself limited to weekends. It didn't help that my company moved our office to a new building with a free soda fountain. :P But I'll make it.
It starts. Half an hour on the spinning bike, it's not much but a better start than last year.
I've started using Endomondo sports tracker to shame myself into exercising more regularly. Anyone else using it?
Quote from: Maladict on January 01, 2013, 12:13:12 PM
It starts. Half an hour on the spinning bike, it's not much but a better start than last year.
I've started using Endomondo sports tracker to shame myself into exercising more regularly. Anyone else using it?
Well done you and Jaron for resurrecting this thread and making a start. ;cheers:
Back to the gym tomorrow morning. Hopefully, it won't be ridiculously packed. :glare:
Quote from: merithyn on January 01, 2013, 09:02:53 PM
Back to the gym tomorrow morning. Hopefully, it won't be ridiculously packed. :glare:
Have you tried excessive farting or talking to yourself, that seems to clear the machines around you, Allegedly. :)
No fitness targets for this year, just carrry on doing what I do, but with a more relaxed attitude.
The only remaining target I have is to cycle more miles than I've driven by the time I'm 60/retire.
I'd estimate I have to do about another 60,000 kilometres, but that doesn't allow for any addition miles I do in vehicles as I get older. :(
To break that down, if I cycle around 300 miles each month until then, I should do it and quite comfortably; Assuming I stay healthy, fit and no one tries to kill me on the roads. :hmm:
Cancelled my gym membership so I'll mostly be running and doing workout DVDs. I'm ditching the long distances and aiming for my fastest ever 5K. I'm not saying how "fast" that is as it's all relative!
Quote from: mongers on January 01, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
The only remaining target I have is to cycle more miles than I've driven by the time I'm 60/retire.
How on earth do you know how far you've driven in your life time?
Quote from: Brazen on January 02, 2013, 05:48:34 AM
How on earth do you know how far you've driven in your life time?
Not that hard if he remembers the mileage of his cars, especially if there were only a few.
Continue my 4-6 days (usually 5) a week schedule which I have been doing for 2 years now. Continue to look good and have the 23 year old women at my work trying to get some lovin at the christmas party only for her to be thwarted in her effort by my 33 year old regular blonde milf flirt who didn't like the fact that my attention was with someone else :P
And the fact that I had to say no because I'm married :(
I did tell my wife about though... just because.
Quote from: Octavian on January 02, 2013, 06:36:52 AM
I did tell my wife about though... just because.
You know, they say they want to know...but they don't want to know.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 07:05:36 AM
Quote from: Octavian on January 02, 2013, 06:36:52 AM
I did tell my wife about though... just because.
You know, they say they want to know...but they don't want to know.
Heh it was more or less the first thing my drunken ass told her when she came to give me a ride home. I regret nothing!
:lol:
Went running down by the Thames at lunchtime. It's inevitably going to always be a bit stop-start with all the tourists. No showers (or kettle, fridge microwave, kitchen sink...) at work so had a French shower with some industrial strength wet-wipes. No complaints of lingering odours yet.
Will check out public pools near work and home over the next week or so to see if I can entirely replace the gym, but it won't be the same as having having a warm, clean pool all to myself on the weekends.
I took my pills this morning.
Still not doing much, though I have ideas for some more adventurous stuff come the spring/summer.
Just popped down the valley to visit a friend on the coast, perfect night for exercise, 9-10C, no wind, saving of course the lack of daylight, ho hum guess it comes with the territory/latitude. :bowler:
Didn't help cycling into a big pothole masquerading* as part of a large puddle/lake on the road, rear light when flying, good job I carry a spare, I'm surprised the little folder made it through ok, I feel on a road bike I'd have been in some trouble al a instant flat and possibility of buckled/fucked up wheel.
I took my pills this morning.
Quote from: mongers on January 04, 2013, 06:58:17 PM
Still not doing much, though I have ideas for some more adventurous stuff come the spring/summer.
Do tell.
I took a massive dump.
At least he wasn't on the side of the road.
Started walking the mall again during my breaks, so I'm getting 2 miles in 30 minutes every day. Not a lot, but it's something. Cold or not, I think I'm going to start running again next week, too. This week I just don't have time. Next week, I'll make time.
My goal. To be able to play full court by May - and dunk over those whippersnappers!
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2013, 04:51:59 PM
My goal. To be able to play full court by May - and dunk over those whippersnappers!
Don't you just have to stand up straight to dunk it? :P
I have faith. You'll be beating the boys in no time! :hug:
This year's aim: finally reaching the six-pack club by April.
Not doing a great deal at the mo, though did manage to pop down to the sea late this afternoon, nice little 20 mile trip, slightly below freezing on the way back. :)
Walked 4 miles and ran a mile over the course of the day. :)
Getting into the lunchtime workout thing - swimming yesterday and 5K run down by the Thames today.
Man, this thread is dying on it's arse already and it's not yet February. :(
Actually managed to get out and do 20 km whilst doing some shopping.
A new target to another 270 miles by the end of February, which'll mean I've done 10,000 miles in the last 24 months.
I'll have to post these two together:
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By Lisa Flam
When Betsy Schow shed 75 pounds, she also eliminated a lot of stress in her marriage.
She and her husband, Jarom, talked to TODAY about their experience as a "mixed-weight couple," in which one partner is overweight and the other isn't. Heavy all her life, she met Jarom in college during a "skinny period," gained 25 pounds by their wedding in 2000 and was unhappy five years later when her weight reached 220 pounds.
Mixed-weight couples, especially those in which the woman is overweight, argue more and have more feelings of anger and resentment than same-weight couples, The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week, citing a study published last month in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships. The extra conflict can cause problems with intimacy and communication.
In an unscientific online survey of more than 1,500 TODAY.com readers, 55 percent say weight differences have caused problems in their relationship.
Poll: Has weight caused problems in your relationship?
Betsy's unhappiness with her weight strained the couple's marriage, with fights and periods of frustration and even talk of splitting up. But she lost 75 pounds in 10 months, their marriage grew stronger and she wrote a book published earlier this month titled, "Finished Being Fat."
The Alpine, Utah, couple discussed their journey on TODAY Thursday.
Betsy, 31, recalled the period in her life when her whole world centered around eating and her weight.
"It's something I call 'fat goggles,'" she told Savannah Guthrie. "It's like beer goggles except with fat."
"Everything revolved around weight, whether I was gaining, whether I was losing," she said. "What we eat, what we could do together. Whether I would let him touch me because I was afraid secretly that he was disgusted, or did not want to go out because he was embarrassed by me."
Jarom struggled with how to help his wife reach her goal of slimming down.
"It's really hard to encourage somebody to eat healthier without that coming off as nagging," said Jarom, 36.
"If I'm saying, 'Let's skip dessert' or 'Maybe we shouldn't order the dessert,' then she's automatically going to feel bad about that and focus on her weight and her self image."
Some of their toughest times came when Jarom made comments to his wife that he has not lived down since. Several times, according to the Journal, he asked her to change her outfit, saying: "That's not made for someone your size, Sweetheart," and once, when she was trying to spice up their love life with a playful, naked dance, Jarom told her: "I guess you are one of those people who looks better with clothes on." Ed: Doh!
Jarom acknowledged to Guthrie, "I opened my mouth without thinking and I think I've regretted it ever since."
Things got so bad that Betsy considered leaving her husband.
"I wanted a way out," she told Guthrie. "I figured, maybe if I could escape, I could be somebody else, because nobody would know me and I could try again and maybe I'd be successful that time. I was tired of feeling unloved and broken and thought maybe that was the way out."
Researchers don't know which comes first in a relationship, conflict or weight gain, as the cycle often feeds itself when relationship stress leads to eating and more stress. They key for mixed-weight couples, one expert says, is for partners to work together.
"You have to figure out how you can let your partner help you and not get angry at them, and that's the hardest part," says psychiatrist and TODAY contributor Dr. Gail Saltz. "If you do it as a team, the person who is overweight feels supported."
Jarom agreed, saying that after he was diagnosed with diabetes and had to watch his own diet, he gained the ability to relate to his wife's struggle. "It's better as a couple if you can make those decisions about eating together," he said.
Betsy's best advice for dealing with the issue is to for the overweight partner to look inward.
"You have to focus not just on the outside but on the inside and on that negative little voice that tells you, 'You can't, you're fat,'" she said. To spouses who are tempted to criticize an overweight partner, she advised, just don't: "I guarantee that the person who is heavy says so much worse things to themselves and you need to stop that dialog and move on."
In this dude's case, his girlfriend's hard work didn't seem to motivate him much. Or maybe he's just a serious hardgainer and she lost her weight way too fast. If I were him, I'd have been busting my ass too:
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My boyfriend started dating me when I weighed over 200 pounds and wore a size 16... He has always thought I've been beautiful, but he was a large part of what motivated me to get my fitness in check. He is an AMAZING guy and deserved a gorgeous piece of arm candy.
Goes to that that when you love someone for WHO THEY ARE and not how they look in a bikini... you may just be their motivation to get in shape so you can show them off ;)
Quote from: mongers on January 24, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
Man, this thread is dying on it's arse already and it's not yet February. :(
Actually managed to get out and do 20 km whilst doing some shopping.
A new target to another 270 miles by the end of February, which'll mean I've done 10,000 miles in the last 24 months.
I'm at 60km total which is fairly pathetic, even for indoor cycling only. :(
Not doing much, just the occasional pootle, though plenty of mud which makes things fun. :)
Going to climb Table Mountain tomorrow. Will be interesting to seder how hard that is.
Quote from: Zanza on February 02, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
Going to climb Table Mountain tomorrow. Will be interesting to seder how hard that is.
Wow, jealous. :(
Have a nice trip/climb and enjoy the summer view. :cool:
The weather was so bad the cable car did not even run. Made it to the top anyway, in just over an hour which is pretty quick I think. Climbed Lion's head as well, so I did 13 km and 1200 height meters up and down in 4.5 hours. :-)
Quote from: Zanza on February 03, 2013, 08:18:36 AM
The weather was so bad the cable car did not even run. Made it to the top anyway, in just over an hour which is pretty quick I think. Climbed Lion's head as well, so I did 13 km and 1200 height meters up and down in 4.5 hours. :-)
Excellent. :cool:
I've just had a spot of the flu. Had to cancel a hiking castle viewing holiday because of it. :( Though on the plus side I ate very little for a few days.
That being pretty much over its time I stop my winter procastrination and get started on the gym again. Really haven't been much at all this month for various reasons.
The christmas chocolate is nearly gone so perhaps I can contemplate looking at what I eat too, as difficult as that is to keep track of.
As per usual weight isn't something that affects me, speaking in terms of losing x pounds means nothing, just gotta flatten the gut.....
Popped out late yesterday to do a 14 mile round trip up the valley, tried to do it at a reasonable pace, a bit under 30 minutes each way; couldn't go that fast as having to go safely through road junctions/crossing roads in and out of town.
Not too bad, but clearly have lost a lot of fitness since last summer/autumn. :hmm:
Someone on a weightlifting forum mentioned that his tolerance for alcohol went down since he started a paleo diet.
I thought that was interesting, since I have seen my tolerance go down too. I'm not eating paleo, but much closer to it than before. I also did intermittent fasting for about six months. So I'm not sure whether to attribute the difference to the food, the fasting, or just the fact that I lost a lot of weight.
Anybody doing either one of those notice this?
Well my drink tolerance has slowly eroded away since the age of 16-18 years, and I suspect it's broadly related to how fit you are, not that I'm super fit, but not bad for my age, meaning two pints of cider will now see my very merry.
Can't comment on the palaeolithic jazz thing.
What madness is overtaking me, I'm looking at buying some running shoes. :gasp:
Found the ones I always used to use, Silver Shadows; am I click away from some new madness in that I'm nearly twice the age I was when I last ran seriously. :hmm:
Earned my orange belt in karate today. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on February 09, 2013, 04:04:48 PM
Earned my orange belt in karate today. :cool:
Congratulations! You didn't have to beat up any kids for it, did you? ;)
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 05, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
I thought that was interesting, since I have seen my tolerance go down too. I'm not eating paleo, but much closer to it than before. I also did intermittent fasting for about six months. So I'm not sure whether to attribute the difference to the food, the fasting, or just the fact that I lost a lot of weight.
Anybody doing either one of those notice this?
I am doing a higher protein, lower carb regime right now, and I know this to be true. The complex sugars hit me quite hard. That is good, in fact - it keeps me away from more carbs in beer.
Quote from: Jaron on February 09, 2013, 04:34:13 PM
Congratulations! You didn't have to beat up any kids for it, did you? ;)
No. :(
Did very little exercise for 2/3 days, to the point of me beginning to fall apart. :(
Managed to pop out early this evening and do 28 km down the valley on my little folding bike, got it up to 23 mph on the flat.
Not too bad at about 2C and dry (hard concept for the English to understand, I think it's called non-rain)
Hope it blew away a couple of fitness cobwebs.
I did sparring last night in karate. I won two out of three matches. :cool: I beat a blue belt and another orange belt, but lost to a... white belt. :wacko:
In my defense, the white belt is new to karate but definitely has past martial arts experience of some sort, and they're making him work his way through the ranks again.
Quote from: Caliga on February 21, 2013, 01:06:18 PM
I did sparring last night in karate. I won two out of three matches. :cool: I beat a blue belt and another orange belt, but lost to a... white belt. :wacko:
In my defense, the white belt is new to karate but definitely has past martial arts experience of some sort, and they're making him work his way through the ranks again.
:thumbsup:
I guess a competitive contact sport is a pretty good way of getting fit, what with as you describe the unexpected strengths and weaknesses of opponents,must get the heart rate pumping well.
Certainly a lot more intense exercise that the 10 miles of biking I did around town earlier.
Yeah, sparring is a lot more intense of a workout than just regular karate drills.
My sensei told me I also have very good footwork, in that I'm good at dodging and maneuvering without stepping out of the ring (which is kind of an invisible line marked with little traffic cone things in the dojo). I was the only student that got praised at the end. :showoff:
There's a tournament in April and I may actually go to it. Even if I don't do that well I can always stand on the sidelines and shout "PUT HIM IN A BODYBAG! YEEEAAAH!" and "SWEEP THE LEG, JOHNNY" and shit like that which none of the little pukes will understand. :)
Quote from: Caliga on February 21, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
Yeah, sparring is a lot more intense of a workout than just regular karate drills.
My sensei told me I also have very good footwork, in that I'm good at dodging and maneuvering without stepping out of the ring (which is kind of an invisible line marked with little traffic cone things in the dojo). I was the only student that got praised at the end. :showoff:
There's a tournament in April and I may actually go to it. Even if I don't do that well I can always stand on the sidelines and shout "PUT HIM IN A BODYBAG! YEEEAAAH!" and "SWEEP THE LEG, JOHNNY" and shit like that which none of the little pukes will understand. :)
:cool:
Sounds like a lot of fun, go for hit.
I've just remembered, a friend's friend is an ex-UK judo champion and he remained very fit for years, carrying on as a national coach. I think he's only really slowed down in the last couple of years on approaching 70.
And the only think that his sport may have stressed appear to be his knees, last time I saw him.
Yeah, one of the reasons I don't do judo is because it rips your knees to shreds. My younger brother is a brown belt in judo and his knees are toast. When he got married back in November the photographer lady made him do this pose where he kneeled down and he could barely hold the position... his knees were shaking like he was having a seizure. :bleeding:
The 1-2C weather and the cold Easterly mitigated against me doing much to day, a wee bit cold on the way home.
Which is annoying as I had loads of energy today, bouncing around, running up the stairs etc, I could have done with a bit of a workout or burn around the block.
I wish I hadn't quit karate.
Did it when I was a teenager but the trouble was the class was increasingly just little kids, their parents and me. And I was moving ever away from being a kid myself. Just not much opportunity out there for adults who aren't experts to get started in martial arts.
What school of karate was this?
Also, you could have transitioned to a junior instructor. :hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on February 23, 2013, 12:20:57 PM
What school of karate was this?
Also, you could have transitioned to a junior instructor. :hmm:
I wasn't high level yet, furthest I got was....green IIRC.
Can't remember the name of what type of karate for the life of me.
Quote from: mongers on January 24, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
Man, this thread is dying on it's arse already and it's not yet February. :(
Actually managed to get out and do 20 km whilst doing some shopping.
A new target to another 270 miles by the end of February, which'll mean I've done 10,000 miles in the last 24 months.
Well that was easy, popped out and did a 20 km round trip up the valley, which took me over the target. :)
The wind being under half yesterdays strength and being a couple of degrees less cold makes a difference. It was trying to snow, but nothing was settling.
I didn't do karate because I certified myself a badass.i didn't need a dojo. I am my own Sensei.
Plus, I pack heat.
Quote from: Tyr on February 23, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
I wish I hadn't quit karate.
Did it when I was a teenager but the trouble was the class was increasingly just little kids, their parents and me. And I was moving ever away from being a kid myself. Just not much opportunity out there for adults who aren't experts to get started in martial arts.
Bullshit!
Just contact a club and get started.
None of us are doing much, are we ? :unsure:
I say that as I found the topic on page 4. :P
Quote from: mongers on March 04, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
None of us are doing much, are we ? :unsure:
No. :(
But it looks like spring is coming, all is not lost.
I am eating quite a bit. :lol: :blush:
Working out three days a week.
The first part of the workout is basically the cardio/strength training piece of a boxer's workout - lots of jumprope, jumping jacks, push-ups, sit-ups, medicine ball work, and shadowboxing. If I can find a heavy bag to use I'll start adding some bag work into the mix.
The second part of the workout is weightlifting.
Quote from: Octavian on February 24, 2013, 01:53:02 PM
Bullshit!
Just contact a club and get started.
Where do you live?
In huge cities I'd imagine it is a possibility. Where I'm from in the UK totally not. Where I am in Japan....way too hard core on ability and language. Hopefully if I do move Tokyowards in a few months there should be something friendly to amateur stupid foreigners.
On month #3 of my dieting, all going well so far ... though I really must get in the habit of eating sensibly *all* the time, not gaining weight over a few years and then dieting back down. :Embarrass:
Goal: 190 pounds. I'm at 207 now, so another couple of months will do it - I'm not doing any super-crash dieting, slow and steady 10 pounds or so a month reduction is okay for me.
I'm 6' so the high side of "normal" according to the BMI index would be 183, but fuck it. I'll be happy with 190. The real task, of course, is staying there.
Quote from: Malthus on March 06, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
On month #3 of my dieting, all going well so far ... though I really must get in the habit of eating sensibly *all* the time, not gaining weight over a few years and then dieting back down. :Embarrass:
Goal: 190 pounds. I'm at 207 now, so another couple of months will do it - I'm not doing any super-crash dieting, slow and steady 10 pounds or so a month reduction is okay for me.
I'm 6' so the high side of "normal" according to the BMI index would be 183, but fuck it. I'll be happy with 190. The real task, of course, is staying there.
Malthus good luck with that, though I would say I think even 2.5 lbs per week sounds a bit crash-like to me.
Though I'm obviously not in any way qualified to say that, saving this is Languish and we all pretty much have an opinion on everything. :P
Incidentally I've discovered the one thing that truly tires me out, no not sex, it's standing, standing for any more than half an hour really knocks me out. :hmm:
Quote from: Tyr on February 23, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
I wish I hadn't quit karate.
Did it when I was a teenager but the trouble was the class was increasingly just little kids, their parents and me. And I was moving ever away from being a kid myself. Just not much opportunity out there for adults who aren't experts to get started in martial arts.
Stay away from the McDojo's. See if there's a Kyokushin school in your area. Stay away from contracts.
I cant stress being careful in choosing a school enough. A lot of bullshit out there.
I've been deeply remiss in working out for a few months, but I've restarted recently, and I've been trying to introduce cardio in the form of jumping jacks. My lungs are kind of broken. :(
Quote from: Ideologue on March 08, 2013, 02:21:19 AM
I've been deeply remiss in working out for a few months, but I've restarted recently, and I've been trying to introduce cardio in the form of jumping jacks. My lungs are kind of broken. :(
Still smoking ?
Yes. What I need is a coma. Like a month or two.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 09, 2013, 09:22:41 PM
Yes. What I need is a coma. Like a month or two.
:(
Damn, glad I never got hooked on that shit, have you considered a opiate habit instead ? :P
11-mile bike ride today. I'm not counting stuff like that as "working out", just a fun activity I happened to be doing this weekend. Tomorrow I start week 2 of this old-school boxer workout. It's awesome.
If I can just fucking control my eating a bit, I'd really be in business. <_<
Quote from: fahdiz on March 10, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
11-mile bike ride today. I'm not counting stuff like that as "working out", just a fun activity I happened to be doing this weekend. Tomorrow I start week 2 of this old-school boxer workout. It's awesome.
If I can just fucking control my eating a bit, I'd really be in business. <_<
Maybe you should have some carbs.
Also:
Quote11-mile bike ride today. I'm not counting stuff like that as "working out", just a fun activity I happened to be doing this weekend.
FU
Quote from: mongers on March 09, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 09, 2013, 09:22:41 PM
Yes. What I need is a coma. Like a month or two.
:(
Damn, glad I never got hooked on that shit, have you considered a opiate habit instead ? :P
All kidding aside, I think some serious painkillers would probably be a really good idea if I tried to quit again. The reason I dropped off the wagon was because of the tremendous physical pain I got in my jaw and head. That was four days of shittiness.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 10, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
Maybe you should have some carbs.
:D Yes. To lose weight, I will require MOAR PASTA
I've decided I must avoid eating anything between dinner and tea. Its those after school snacks that do me in, they can sometimes be substantial....
Quote from: fahdiz on March 10, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
11-mile bike ride today. I'm not counting stuff like that as "working out", just a fun activity I happened to be doing this weekend. Tomorrow I start week 2 of this old-school boxer workout. It's awesome.
If I can just fucking control my eating a bit, I'd really be in business. <_<
:thumpsup:
Sound good, where do you go ?
Boxing workout should be fun. :)
Quote from: Ideologue on March 10, 2013, 11:18:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 09, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 09, 2013, 09:22:41 PM
Yes. What I need is a coma. Like a month or two.
:(
Damn, glad I never got hooked on that shit, have you considered a opiate habit instead ? :P
All kidding aside, I think some serious painkillers would probably be a really good idea if I tried to quit again. The reason I dropped off the wagon was because of the tremendous physical pain I got in my jaw and head. That was four days of shittiness.
Nasty stuff, I do know a couple of ex-heroin addicts, I'll ask them how hard it was, but since both are still smokers, maybe a bit easier than smokes ? :unsure:
Well yeah, dying when you're 60 isn't as scary as dying next month.
I found quitting smoking easier than controlling my weight.
Quitting is just a decision - a hard one true, but once its done its done. Weight control is a constant struggle. :(
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2013, 02:51:15 AM
Quote from: Octavian on February 24, 2013, 01:53:02 PM
Bullshit!
Just contact a club and get started.
Where do you live?
In huge cities I'd imagine it is a possibility. Where I'm from in the UK totally not. Where I am in Japan....way too hard core on ability and language. Hopefully if I do move Tokyowards in a few months there should be something friendly to amateur stupid foreigners.
In a small town with 7000 inhabitants. Although it's situated just outside of Denmarks largest city so I workout there :P
Suburbs don't count as small towns.
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2013, 09:14:55 AM
I found quitting smoking easier than controlling my weight.
Quitting is just a decision - a hard one true, but once its done its done. Weight control is a constant struggle. :(
What we have here is a division of labor problem. Let's trade bodies, I'll get your weight down, and you can get me to quit smoking. I promise not to steal your life, and not a fatal amount of your money.
Quote from: mongers on March 11, 2013, 08:04:18 AM
Sound good, where do you go ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauvie_Island
Quote from: fahdiz on March 11, 2013, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 11, 2013, 08:04:18 AM
Sound good, where do you go ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauvie_Island
Looks lovely and ideal recreational cycling territory. :cool:
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2013, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2013, 09:14:55 AM
I found quitting smoking easier than controlling my weight.
Quitting is just a decision - a hard one true, but once its done its done. Weight control is a constant struggle. :(
What we have here is a division of labor problem. Let's trade bodies, I'll get your weight down, and you can get me to quit smoking. I promise not to steal your life, and not a fatal amount of your money.
Tell ya what, we will trade ages into the bargain and its a deal. :contract:
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2013, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2013, 09:14:55 AM
I found quitting smoking easier than controlling my weight.
Quitting is just a decision - a hard one true, but once its done its done. Weight control is a constant struggle. :(
What we have here is a division of labor problem. Let's trade bodies, I'll get your weight down, and you can get me to quit smoking. I promise not to steal your life, and not a fatal amount of your money.
Tell ya what, we will trade ages into the bargain and its a deal. :contract:
:D
I have cut my diet soda intake in half. Replaced it with those flavored waters and stealing juice boxes from the kids.
My pee has lightened up.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 16, 2013, 08:54:22 PM
I have cut my diet soda intake in half. Replaced it with those flavored waters and stealing juice boxes from the kids.
My pee has lightened up.
My urine is like the ice beneath the Antarctic surface, so clear and voluminous you can detect the neutrino strikes within the stream.
Again had to rescue this thread from the 3rd page. :hmm:
Not doing a great deal myself either, did pop out late to do 14 miles up the valley in the balmy 37f weather. :bowler:
Temperature: -1
Feels like: -14
:(
Damn, this weather makes a difference, during last March, warmest for a century, I did nearly 600 miles on the bike (4 miles short); this March barely 250 miles and it's only another 4-5 days left before a new month. :(
My diet is going strong - I'm down 28 pounds. :) Only 12 more to go to hit my maintenance target.
Quote from: Malthus on March 26, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
My diet is going strong - I'm down 28 pounds. :) Only 12 more to go to hit my maintenance target.
:thumbsup:
Just noticed I've managed to put on 4-5 lbs, so only around 8lbs to go before I'm back to a good fighting weight, but damn I need those missing lbs recently. :shivers:
I ran 1.5 miles today at 4.6mph. :showoff:
I probably could have gone further, but I'd set a goal of 20 minutes running and decided to stick to it even though I was feeling pretty good. Tomorrow, I shoot for 25 minutes. I'm hoping that by the end of next week, I'll be running 30-35 minutes non-stop. I have a 10K coming up at the end of April, and I'd like to be able to run a good chunk of it.
Amazingly, I'm actually doing pretty well on the running thing. I set the treadmill on random hills, walk five minutes at 3mph, then run for however long I've determined to do so that day at 4.6mph, walk at 3.5 for two minutes, then run another five minutes at 4.6mph. Finally, I walk another five minutes at 3.2 to cool down.
Once it warms up outside (and the snow melts again), I'll move out there to see how I do. I suspect that it will be harder than the treadmill. :ph34r:
Did my first real ride of the year today - 20 mile round trip north of town. Not too cold, a bit windy, but man I was not ready for that. By the end (the last 4 miles) I was bonking and feeling a bit drunk. Some carbs when I got back helped, and a nap helped more.
Not using those muscles in that way for 5 months made them rebellious.
Quote from: Malthus on March 26, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
My diet is going strong - I'm down 28 pounds. :) Only 12 more to go to hit my maintenance target.
Did you do it by limiting your calories to a starvation level, like a mensch? Or did you do it like a fhdz, and "exercise" off an ounce or two a week? :)
Seriously, congrats, that's a lot. Good work. :hug:
Quote from: PDH on March 30, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
Did my first real ride of the year today - 20 mile round trip north of town. Not too cold, a bit windy, but man I was not ready for that. By the end (the last 4 miles) I was bonking and feeling a bit drunk. Some carbs when I got back helped, and a nap helped more.
Not using those muscles in that way for 5 months made them rebellious.
:thumbsup:
More than I did today, just popped out and did 14 miles up and down the valley, and there ain't no mountains around here. :bowler:
20 miles on an ass that hasn't biked in 5 months is nasty...especially the next day. My plans now are to not bike till NEXT weekend.
Quote from: PDH on March 31, 2013, 03:14:55 PM
20 miles on an ass that hasn't biked in 5 months is nasty...especially the next day. My plans now are to not bike till NEXT weekend.
:pinch:
I can images, especially if it's on a modern sports orientated one, rather than a more old fashion comfort saddle.
:console:
Quote from: PDH on March 31, 2013, 03:14:55 PM
20 miles on an ass that hasn't biked in 5 months is nasty...especially the next day.
Grallon's back. Maybe we can get an expert opinion.
I conducted a mass sacrifice of Peeps. Hopefully, the peep god will grant me strength.
Been doing push-ups, but don't seem to be improving a great deal. Should I take some sort of steroid, or growth hormone? Where would one find these products available for purchase?
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Been doing push-ups, but don't seem to be improving a great deal. Should I take some sort of steroid, or growth hormone? Where would one find these products available for purchase?
:rolleyes:
Ide, a few thoughts:
--if you are just starting doing push ups with a decent routine, you should see rapid improvement--if you aren't, something is probably wrong
--how many pushups can you do, how many are you doing, and in how many sets? How much recovery time do you have between sets?
--what other exercises are you doing for the relevant muscle groups, and how many times a week?
--if you aren't eating enough calories, you will never build muscle. Likewise, how much protein do you eat on an average day? Not enough protein is going to be a limiting factor as well.
--how long have you been doing the pushup routine?
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Been doing push-ups, but don't seem to be improving a great deal. Should I take some sort of steroid, or growth hormone? Where would one find these products available for purchase?
:rolleyes:
Ide, a few thoughts:
--if you are just starting doing push ups with a decent routine, you should see rapid improvement--if you aren't, something is probably wrong
Yes. I have no human growth.
Quote--how many pushups can you do, how many are you doing, and in how many sets? How much recovery time do you have between sets?
Gee, why don't you ask me how big my dick is?
25ish for first go with arms wide, 20 done properly with arms directly beneath shoulders for next set, every day in theory. A lot of times I just do one. I've been okayish about doing an average of at least one set a day (along with some other stuff) since, you know, singlehood.
I did 47 once. :( That was like two years ago, and took a couple months to get to.
Quote--what other exercises are you doing for the relevant muscle groups, and how many times a week?
What's a relevant muscle group? Is a tricep a relevant muscle group? If not, I'm gonna say "none."
Quote--if you aren't eating enough calories, you will never build muscle. Likewise, how much protein do you eat on an average day? Not enough protein is going to be a limiting factor as well.
However much is in a veggie patty or egg + cheese sub at Subway (23g or 19g respectively) (about five days a week) or tofu burrito at Moe's (21g) (one day a week), plus whatever is in three cookies when I eat at Subway (chocolate is a protein) or tortilla chips and salsa when I eat at Moe's (i.e., 0g), and whatever I eat when I'm out with my lady friend. Who doesn't need to know about how few push-ups I can do.
Quote--how long have you been doing the pushup routine?
I dunno. Month? Some stuff prior to that. Seems like I should be doing sets of 30 or so by now by prior history. Do you think my dieting has interfered with muscle building, so that I'm essentially treading water in regards that while I lose fat? Could be worse, I suppose. I have broken training, so to speak, a little bit based on the chance that a certain area's slow healing is due to lack of structural chemicals and/or energy storage chemicals being diverted or overused. This involves eating somewhat more cookies or another small sub.
Quote from: CDCRecommended Dietary Allowance for Protein
Grams of protein
needed each day
Children ages 1 – 3 13
Children ages 4 – 8 19
Children ages 9 – 13 34
Girls ages 14 – 18 46
Boys ages 14 – 18 52
Women ages 19 – 70+ 46
Men ages 19 – 70+ 56
Huh. Well, you're all a bunch of stinking murderers.
For every animal you save, I'm eating three.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 31, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
For every animal you save, I'm eating three.
Then I need to save even more animals. It'll be hilarious when I've put you on a fatty scooter. :D
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 31, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
For every animal you save, I'm eating three.
Then I need to save even more animals. It'll be hilarious when I've put you on a fatty scooter. :D
I'll just liquidate the animals then. No relocation to the east.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 31, 2013, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 31, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
For every animal you save, I'm eating three.
Then I need to save even more animals. It'll be hilarious when I've put you on a fatty scooter. :D
I'll just liquidate the animals then. No relocation to the east.
:lol:
Ide, it sounds like you are short on protein and probably calories.
Also, not to knock your routine too hard, but how long does it take to do a set of 25 pushups? Less than a minute? Maybe you could put in some extra sets, maybe some pull ups, and maybe some weights (curls, bench press). You could probably get some basic exercise equipment very cheap at Wal Mart or Target, and 10 minutes a day with a better diet would probably go a long way.
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Ide, it sounds like you are short on protein and probably calories.
Also, not to knock your routine too hard, but how long does it take to do a set of 25 pushups? Less than a minute? Maybe you could put in some extra sets, maybe some pull ups, and maybe some weights (curls, bench press). You could probably get some basic exercise equipment very cheap at Wal Mart or Target, and 10 minutes a day with a better diet would probably go a long way.
Wasting your time Al.
I liked those ensure drinks for a protein boost. Ensure, boost...whatever they were called.
I lift weights too, just not targeting pectoral stuff. I guess I could buy a bar, but I dunno.
25 is probably t<minute, yeah. (Edited. Wrong inequality sign.)
My arms seem to respond better than my chest, but I think, after hearing what you've said and looking up what the RDA for protein is, that I'm definitely not eating enough of the right things. I need something... maybe something made with real peanut butter... but whipped, to be more palatable, contained in a delicious shell of some sort... can you help me out? :P I guess I'll go get some... uh, yogurt, maybe? Maybe start cooking soy burgers by themselves.
Not eating enough calories is definitely by design though. Maybe muscle gain can wait till I've stabilized my weight at 160-165?
:bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on March 31, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Ide, it sounds like you are short on protein and probably calories.
Also, not to knock your routine too hard, but how long does it take to do a set of 25 pushups? Less than a minute? Maybe you could put in some extra sets, maybe some pull ups, and maybe some weights (curls, bench press). You could probably get some basic exercise equipment very cheap at Wal Mart or Target, and 10 minutes a day with a better diet would probably go a long way.
Wasting your time Al.
A guy on a very low calorie diet is citing chocolate chip cookies as a source of protein and wondering why he isn't seeing gains from 50 seconds of exercise a day. I at least want to say something to ease my conscious. :P
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
I lift weights too, just not targeting pectoral stuff. I guess I could buy a bar, but I dunno.
25 is probably t<minute, yeah. (Edited. Wrong inequality sign.)
My arms seem to respond better than my chest, but I think, after hearing what you've said and looking up what the RDA for protein is, that I'm definitely not eating enough of the right things. I need something... maybe something made with real peanut butter... but whipped, to be more palatable, contained in a delicious shell of some sort... can you help me out? :P I guess I'll go get some... uh, yogurt, maybe? Maybe start cooking soy burgers by themselves.
Not eating enough calories is definitely by design though. Maybe muscle gain can wait till I've stabilized my weight at 160-165?
I prescribe a peanut butter pie.
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 31, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Ide, it sounds like you are short on protein and probably calories.
Also, not to knock your routine too hard, but how long does it take to do a set of 25 pushups? Less than a minute? Maybe you could put in some extra sets, maybe some pull ups, and maybe some weights (curls, bench press). You could probably get some basic exercise equipment very cheap at Wal Mart or Target, and 10 minutes a day with a better diet would probably go a long way.
Wasting your time Al.
A guy on a very low calorie diet is citing chocolate chip cookies as a source of protein and wondering why he isn't seeing gains from 50 seconds of exercise a day. I at least want to say something to ease my conscious. :P
I do other stuff. I do curls, tricep lifts, heil Hitlers, whatever those things are where you lift a weight straight up from your shoulder, and jumping jacks (however, I have been on and off that since I did a lot and it fucked my lungs up something fierce, giving me a cough for three days).
About two weeks ago I decided I'd lost enough weight in the abdominal area to start doing situps again, too.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
and jumping jacks (however, I have been on and off that since I did a lot and it fucked my lungs up something fierce, giving me a cough for three days).
:bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on March 31, 2013, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
and jumping jacks (however, I have been on and off that since I did a lot and it fucked my lungs up something fierce, giving me a cough for three days).
:bleeding:
Yeah, okay. This one is fair.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
I lift weights too, just not targeting pectoral stuff. I guess I could buy a bar, but I dunno.
25 is probably t<minute, yeah. (Edited. Wrong inequality sign.)
My arms seem to respond better than my chest, but I think, after hearing what you've said and looking up what the RDA for protein is, that I'm definitely not eating enough of the right things. I need something... maybe something made with real peanut butter... but whipped, to be more palatable, contained in a delicious shell of some sort... can you help me out? :P I guess I'll go get some... uh, yogurt, maybe? Maybe start cooking soy burgers by themselves.
Not eating enough calories is definitely by design though. Maybe muscle gain can wait till I've stabilized my weight at 160-165?
Protein shakes are an option. I'm really not up on the vegetarian options: I may personally support an entire factory chicken farm.
It would be a much bigger time commitment, but in my experience if you were to seriously take up cardio (say running) with some resistance training, you could somewhat ignore your diet and still be in good shape (but still making sure you get enough protein and not too many sweets).
I want to start running or swimming. I just don't want to go and try to do cardio in public where there are a bunch of non-smokers laughing at me because of my lung capacity. <_<
P.S. are they really called heil Hitlers?
Ide, what's the purpose of this program, health, strength, vanity ?
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 07:54:46 PM
I want to start running or swimming. I just don't want to go and try to do cardio in public where there are a bunch of non-smokers laughing at me because of my lung capacity. <_<
P.S. are they really called heil Hitlers?
Find a place to run and just go. Most runners either started as adults or had a long enough lay off that they went to zero. Even if anyone cares enough to notice you, no one is going to laugh because you suck--most people were there too. Anyway, we are coming out of winter and a lot of runners don't go out in cold weather, so they are back to zero now.
It will be easy starting out. Just go as slow as you can for as long as you can, and then quit. You probably won't go far at first, maybe just 5 minutes, but you will go a bit further each day. Once you hit 20 minutes of continuous jogging/running, improvement will start to come quickly.
Also, quit smoking. :P
Ide, btw, I just started taking a yoga class a few weeks ago. Apart from often being the only guy in there, I was incredibly bad at the stuff. But even though most weeks I've only gone once, I've seen improvement and I don't stand out as the worst anymore. Suck it up and get over being embarrassed. :P
Ide, are you full vegan or can you do dairy? If so, for protein do whey isolate protein, it is probably the best for your...er...condition. It won't add a lot of calories if you drink it in skim milk...
Jesus, you are a myopic idiot.
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Ide, btw, I just started taking a yoga class a few weeks ago. Apart from often being the only guy in there, I was incredibly bad at the stuff. But even though most weeks I've only gone once, I've seen improvement and I don't stand out as the worst anymore. Suck it up and get over being embarrassed. :P
I'm scarred. I was often picked last for sports. One time in college, in my way-lame "wellness" class, I was picked last over a couple of 250lb. girls to play volleyball. I have to assume there was some kind of personal relationship there, but still.
Also, I think I figured out why I'm not doing enough push-ups. Because I'm still a fucking katmoid, 17 pounds above his fucking target weight. I just bought a scale. Should have smashed it to pieces before I stepped upon it. There are things better left unknown. The worst thing is I do know I
have lost
at least two to three pounds a week for the past three weeks, too. :weep:
I mean, I guess it's some consolation that I don't look too fat. But the number--THE NUMBER HAUNTS ME.
Ide is a heterosexual marti, got it.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Ide, btw, I just started taking a yoga class a few weeks ago. Apart from often being the only guy in there, I was incredibly bad at the stuff. But even though most weeks I've only gone once, I've seen improvement and I don't stand out as the worst anymore. Suck it up and get over being embarrassed. :P
I'm scarred. I was often picked last for sports. One time in college, in my way-lame "wellness" class, I was picked last over a couple of 250lb. girls to play volleyball. I have to assume there was some kind of personal relationship there, but still.
Also, I think I figured out why I'm not doing enough push-ups. Because I'm still a fucking katmoid, 17 pounds above his fucking target weight. I just bought a scale. Should have smashed it to pieces before I stepped upon it. There are things better left unknown. The worst thing is I do know I have lost at least two to three pounds a week for the past three weeks, too. :weep:
I mean, I guess it's some consolation that I don't look too fat. But the number--THE NUMBER HAUNTS ME.
I was picked last for sports too. I'm a terrible athlete--I never had a prayer of making a high school sports team. Only now some people think I border on a sort of super athlete (which is crazy, btw). Why? Because I put some effort into exercising and they don't. When you cross into adulthood natural ability starts to become secondary.
Quote from: katmai on March 31, 2013, 09:11:01 PM
Ide is a heterosexual marti, got it.
No, I don't pay people for sex.
Al, despite katmai's reality-free rantings to the contrary, I do appreciate the advice quite a bit. And in some regards (upping protein intake, doing more sets), I intend to and will follow it. In others (running) I intend to follow it, but may not. In others still (smoking), I, uh, will let you know. :/ I mean, c'mon, we have got to be close to full-scale organ repair and replacement, right?
In the meantime, maybe I should try Chantix? There's no way a drug that blocks your ability to feel happiness could affect me negatively, right? :P (N.B.: I do not work on the Chantix litigation.)
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Ide, btw, I just started taking a yoga class a few weeks ago. Apart from often being the only guy in there, I was incredibly bad at the stuff. But even though most weeks I've only gone once, I've seen improvement and I don't stand out as the worst anymore. Suck it up and get over being embarrassed. :P
I'm scarred. I was often picked last for sports. One time in college, in my way-lame "wellness" class, I was picked last over a couple of 250lb. girls to play volleyball. I have to assume there was some kind of personal relationship there, but still.
Also, I think I figured out why I'm not doing enough push-ups. Because I'm still a fucking katmoid, 17 pounds above his fucking target weight. I just bought a scale. Should have smashed it to pieces before I stepped upon it. There are things better left unknown. The worst thing is I do know I have lost at least two to three pounds a week for the past three weeks, too. :weep:
I mean, I guess it's some consolation that I don't look too fat. But the number--THE NUMBER HAUNTS ME.
I was picked last for sports too. I'm a terrible athlete--I never had a prayer of making a high school sports team. Only now some people think I border on a sort of super athlete (which is crazy, btw). Why? Because I put some effort into exercising and they don't. When you cross into adulthood natural ability starts to become secondary.
QFT.
Quote from: PDH on March 31, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Ide, are you full vegan or can you do dairy? If so, for protein do whey isolate protein, it is probably the best for your...er...condition. It won't add a lot of calories if you drink it in skim milk...
Jesus, you are a myopic idiot.
Sorry, PDH, didn't see this till just now. I'm an ovo-lacto-crypto-pescetarian. (Go ahead. You know you want to. I'll start you out: I drive a wooden car, it doesn't get me far, but it gets me to where I'm going.) The lack of protein is probably more from dieting and ignorance. -_-
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 09:35:18 PM
Al, despite katmai's reality-free rantings to the contrary,
The lack of protein is probably more from dieting and ignorance. -_-
:contract:
DUDE.
Ide, as change of heart on my part, just get a fucking bike and head off into the mountains/desert/forests like PDH and stop this navel gazing and emo-bleating. :rolleyes:
Keep up the good fight, Breaking Away.
Quote from: mongers on March 31, 2013, 09:54:07 PM
Ide, as change of heart on my part, just get a fucking bike and head off into the mountains/desert/forests like PDH and stop this navel gazing and emo-bleating. :rolleyes:
On the running vs. biking front...Biking is easier your knees. I sometimes worry about people that get into biking (especially spinning) because it is easy to deceive yourself that you are really exercising. I see obese people at the gym on exercise bikes reading a magazine while pedaling very slowly, likely on a low resistance. You can't really slack your way through a run like that. Also, running typically gives you more bang per unit time--which means shorter workouts.
Done the right way, obviously both are great ways to get exercise.
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 31, 2013, 09:54:07 PM
Ide, as change of heart on my part, just get a fucking bike and head off into the mountains/desert/forests like PDH and stop this navel gazing and emo-bleating. :rolleyes:
On the running vs. biking front...Biking is easier your knees. I sometimes worry about people that get into biking (especially spinning) because it is easy to deceive yourself that you are really exercising. I see obese people at the gym on exercise bikes reading a magazine while pedaling very slowly, likely on a low resistance. You can't really slack your way through a run like that. Also, running typically gives you more bang per unit time--which means shorter workouts.
Done the right way, obviously both are great ways to get exercise.
I think in large part they're apples and oranges, at least in my mind; I've done a fair bit of both and for sure, my knees would now be shot if I'd carried on like I used to with the high impact running.
Perhaps it's a young man vs an old man's exercise routine, now I have a bit more time and prefer to get about by bike rather than driving somewhere and at another point in the day, having to think about fitting in some explicit exercise like going for a run or god forbid the gym. :)
Quote from: Ideologue on March 31, 2013, 09:35:18 PM
Al, despite katmai's reality-free rantings to the contrary, I do appreciate the advice quite a bit. And in some regards (upping protein intake, doing more sets), I intend to and will follow it. In others (running) I intend to follow it, but may not. In others still (smoking), I, uh, will let you know. :/ I mean, c'mon, we have got to be close to full-scale organ repair and replacement, right?
In the meantime, maybe I should try Chantix? There's no way a drug that blocks your ability to feel happiness could affect me negatively, right? :P (N.B.: I do not work on the Chantix litigation.)
Ide, on the smoking front, I know I'm not saying anything new, but even beyond the health stuff...In a lot of professional circles smoking is really looked down upon (not to mention effectively impossible in some high rises without disappearing for large parts of the day).
I'm also having problems getting enough calories. My waist is still getting smaller, but I've seen no appreciable muscle mass increase for a while even though I'm still lifting. My weights continue to get heavier though. I think I just need to pack in a bunch of steaks or something. The thing is, I just don't have the appetite. I sat down for Easter dinner last night, had a handful of asparagus and a small piece of ham and didn't want any more. I literally cannot eat any meal in a restaurant and finish it.
Rode the 20 mile round trip twice - Saturday and today. This time of the year it is cold, windy, and conditions change. Still, it felt good to be able to do about 14 mph over a distance today. A few more weeks of this and I will add the 2.5 mile climb that comes right at the 10 mile turnaround.
Quote from: PDH on April 07, 2013, 12:25:54 PM
Rode the 20 mile round trip twice - Saturday and today. This time of the year it is cold, windy, and conditions change. Still, it felt good to be able to do about 14 mph over a distance today. A few more weeks of this and I will add the 2.5 mile climb that comes right at the 10 mile turnaround.
:thumbsup:
Given your neck of the woods, that isn't a 2.5 miles of climb up ? :unsure:
Funnily enough didn't do much yesterday when it was sunny. But today popped down the valley, against a headwind, to visit a friend, we were going to take some photos at the sea, but abandoned the idea as it was rather overcast.
So after a chat, I got out and there was still a bit of early evening light left, so I thought I'll go down to the sea front, ended up cycling all the way along the prom to Sandbanks(home to multi-millionaires) then up too Poole, from there along an old railway line to nr Wimborne in Dorset, then along a fast main road, till I cut off for the last 5-6 miles cross county to home, just needed my lights for the last 800 yards, so these late evenings can only get better.
Ended up doing 60+kms on my single speed, which I hadn't intended on doing, don't feel too bad considering I haven't done something like that in 5 months.
Sixty kilometers a second? That's pretty good.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 07, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Sixty kilometers a second? That's pretty good.
No, that's how quickly you life goes if you spend it moping about on the internet. :P
I'm not moping. I made the world a better place today.
Nothing that appears to redound to me in a material or measurable way, but whatever.
Quote from: mongers on April 07, 2013, 03:38:39 PM
Given your neck of the woods, that isn't a 2.5 miles of climb up ? :unsure:
Yeah, the 25 mile round trip has after the 10 mile marker a 2.5 uphill (for about 1100 feet total elevation change), but the 2.5 down really doesn't count as part of the workout :)
Quote from: PDH on April 07, 2013, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 07, 2013, 03:38:39 PM
Given your neck of the woods, that isn't a 2.5 miles of climb up ? :unsure:
Yeah, the 25 mile round trip has after the 10 mile marker a 2.5 uphill (for about 1100 feet total elevation change), but the 2.5 down really doesn't count as part of the workout :)
Yeah, but I bet it's fun. :)
In comparison this evenings route started about 26ft above sea level, decended to around 5-6ft absl, may have touch 60ft near the harbour, before attaining the dizzy heights of about 80ft in the railway cutting on the way home.
OK so those altitudes figures are plucked out of my arse, but you get the drift, no mountains, no hills over 1,000 ft for around 90 miles. :D
If I get the road bike, I plan to do the 80 mile trip that crosses the Snowy Range to Saratoga. Start at 7200 feet, ride up to 10,800 feet at the highway summit, then down to 6800 feet for the finish.
After a night at a hotel, it is back over the next day.
Quote from: PDH on April 07, 2013, 06:36:46 PM
If I get the road bike, I plan to do the 80 mile trip that crosses the Snowy Range to Saratoga. Start at 7200 feet, ride up to 10,800 feet at the highway summit, then down to 6800 feet for the finish.
After a night at a hotel, it is back over the next day.
:cool: envy.
Can people breath at those altitudes ? :unsure: :bowler:
Americans can.
Not doing at lot the moment. :(
I walked a couple of miles today. They were out of cookies at Subway, so for the first time, may actually eat my RDA of protein today. Look, I have a budget, and there are trade-offs.
Joined a gym on Friday, took the bike out for the first time yesterday. All is not lost yet.
Quote from: Jaron on April 07, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
Americans can.
I have enough trouble breathing at sea level.
I had bronchitis more than a month ago and despite a course of antibiotics I just can't shake off a chesty cough, and I pretty much cough myself awake every half an hour all night. I get out of breath doing the weediest of exercises, and I can feel my arse spreading day by day :(
Quote from: Maladict on April 15, 2013, 02:01:12 AM
Joined a gym on Friday, took the bike out for the first time yesterday. All is not lost yet.
:thumbsup:
20 miles riding again today. I thought about riding up the last 2.5 miles of hills, but the snow was there at the 10 mile turnaround. Maybe in a couple of weeks...
Quote from: PDH on April 20, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
20 miles riding again today. I thought about riding up the last 2.5 miles of hills, but the snow was there at the 10 mile turnaround. Maybe in a couple of weeks...
:cool:
Interesting hazard, the only problem I have is stretching my perception of my local area, back to it's usual 'shape'; not doing much for a few months seems to collapse in my view/understanding of what's bikeable/where I can go.
This evening I popped out to a hill fort, nice little 33 mile round-trip, which is probably the furthest West I've been in months, couple of days ago I went north to Salisbury, so I think I'll do the other two points of the compass in the next few days, East into the Forest and South to the sea.
Then I hope I'll have re-expanded my horizons back to normal, before I then get more ambitious for trips in the rest of Spring and Summer.
Went for a nice 7-8k lunch time walk along the seawall to Stanely Park. You guys spending time watching web cams should get out and try the real thing...
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Popped out earlier this evening and did 30 miles around the Forest on my folding bike, got the think up to 30 mph. :)
Got some fab new meds which have stopped me coughing. Hoping to get back out running imminently.
Repeated the walk. Warmer today and more people out and about. When I walked by the yacht club a little girl pointed at me and said to her mother "look a worker".
Now there are several comments one could make about this remark but I would suggest it is proof positive that the Canadian measure of being in the 1% is meaningless. :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
Repeated the walk. Warmer today and more people out and about. When I walked by the yacht club a little girl pointed at me and said to her mother "look a worker".
Now there are several comments one could make about this remark but I would suggest it is proof positive that the Canadian measure of being in the 1% is meaningless. :D
Isn't this a variation on the only the poor walk anywhere ?
The kid has probably spent her life being chauffeured around in a car, watching a screen in the back of her parents seat. I wonder if one or both parents have made comments that have been filtered through her young brain to come out as "mummy look a worker" ? :unsure:
Quote from: mongers on April 23, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
Repeated the walk. Warmer today and more people out and about. When I walked by the yacht club a little girl pointed at me and said to her mother "look a worker".
Now there are several comments one could make about this remark but I would suggest it is proof positive that the Canadian measure of being in the 1% is meaningless. :D
Isn't this a variation on the only the poor walk anywhere ?
Naw, plenty of people walk around that area - its the sea wall. But by that point I was far enough away from the downtown area that I was one of the few wearing a suit.
I ain't getting fitter or younger, it's downhill all the way now. <_<
My weight is basically been the same since I was 21. ^_^
Quote from: mongers on April 23, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I ain't getting fitter or younger, it's downhill all the way now. <_<
lol, this is at least the third time you changed this post. What happened?
This week I've been for a 30km bike ride and a 5km run. That's an improvement of 35 km exercise this year.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2013, 04:01:03 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 23, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I ain't getting fitter or younger, it's downhill all the way now. <_<
lol, this is at least the third time you changed this post. What happened?
My original post seemed more appropriate in my 'Out and About' thread, well at least until Timmay spammed that one too. <_<
Quote from: Liep on April 24, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
This week I've been for a 30km bike ride and a 5km run. That's an improvement of 35 km exercise this year.
:thumbsup:
That's 5km more than I'll ever run now.
Heh, had to run 250 metres for a bus today, didn't kill me, but seemed like unnecessary work.
I've just entered the 5 mile Olympic Anniversary Run, finishing in the Olympic stadium (Bolt pose/Mobot compulsory on crossing the finish line). I suppose I'd better check I can still run then...
Quote from: Brazen on April 25, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
I've just entered the 5 mile Olympic Anniversary Run, finishing in the Olympic stadium (Bolt pose/Mobot compulsory on crossing the finish line). I suppose I'd better check I can still run then...
Excellent, and pics or it didnt happen
Did about 75 kilometres on the bike this afternoon, pleased that I can now start doing longer distances.
And if needs be can estimate time need to go places at about 2.5 miles every 10 minutes, and keep that pace up for a fair old while.
Quote from: alfred russel on March 31, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Ide, btw, I just started taking a yoga class a few weeks ago. Apart from often being the only guy in there, I was incredibly bad at the stuff. But even though most weeks I've only gone once, I've seen improvement and I don't stand out as the worst anymore. Suck it up and get over being embarrassed. :P
So the yoga instructor talked me into taking a yogalates class she teaches too. I'm getting an incredible amount of crap regarding this. Are we in a more enlightened age, or should I turn in my man card?
I'm not going to quit the classes.
You broke the code man. Definitely hand in your card. You are out of the club.
Wait, wait, wait. If there are hot chicks there then it is ok.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2013, 08:40:14 PM
Wait, wait, wait. If there are hot chicks there then it is ok.
There is actually this attractive ~50 year old woman that is quite fit and phenomenally flexible. Then we have a screen that she changes behind before and after class only blocks from mid thigh up...It keeps the class interesting.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 25, 2013, 08:48:53 PM
There is actually this attractive ~50 year old woman that is quite fit and phenomenally flexible. Then we have a screen that she changes behind before and after class only blocks from mid thigh up...It keeps the class interesting.
Needs less screen.
50? :yuk:
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 24, 2013, 05:53:04 AM
My weight is basically been the same since I was 21. ^_^
Just wait until you move back to the States and there's edible food readily available.
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
I can still get my legs behind my head. Haven't heard any complaints...
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
You broke the code man. Definitely hand in your card. You are out of the club.
Is it the yogalates that puts me over the line, or is yoga alone too much?
I don't think that pilates is essentially worse than yoga at all. If anything, it's less objectionable, as it just focuses on the stretches and not the mystical mumbo jumbo.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
:D
Too true, as I approach the half way mark I have noticed that more and more.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 09:06:22 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
You broke the code man. Definitely hand in your card. You are out of the club.
Is it the yogalates that puts me over the line, or is yoga alone too much?
It is the concept of yoga. I suppose I am with PDH that if you are there for the women that you want to meet then you have not broken the code. But if you are there strictly for your own health, that is a club terminating offence.
CC, I will not give you my man card voluntarily, I am putting it down my shirt, and you can't grab it and remain a gentleman.
Plus I will scream rape.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 11:01:01 AM
CC, I will not give you my man card voluntarily, I am putting it down my shirt, and you can't grab it and remain a gentleman.
Plus I will scream rape.
:lol:
Did the normal route again, still snow in the hills around here...plus I am not in full shape yet for biking, getting there though. Still, after tomorrow I will have done 160 miles in April of pure roadwork, so that is good.
Quote from: PDH on April 27, 2013, 04:46:25 PM
Did the normal route again, still snow in the hills around here...plus I am not in full shape yet for biking, getting there though. Still, after tomorrow I will have done 160 miles in April of pure roadwork, so that is good.
:thumbsup:
How much of that
isn't hills. :D
Well, there are several rises (like in your pics) to cross in the 20 miles there and back, it is (by the definition of this region) flat the whole 20 miles.
Did the ride out and up the hill today - 25 miles round trip, there was still snow up at 8500 feet, but non on the road. A bit tiring.
This thread is making me want to pull the bike out of mothballs.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
I disagree with you now. I believe strongly I will disagree with you if I make 50.
Btw, Al, you were so right about my diet. Fahdiz wasn't. But you: yes. I've been eating a lot more protein lately and it's made a significant difference in that I'm actually seeing some advancement, even as I lose weight, albeit at a slower pace than before.
173 bitches. The rest of you are fucking tubbos. :yeah:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 29, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
173 bitches. The rest of you are fucking tubbos. :yeah:
I remember when I was 173. I was a bit of a 14 year old bean pole at the time.
I've now cut my diet soda intake to 1/4th of my usual consumption.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 29, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
I disagree with you now. I believe strongly I will disagree with you if I make 50.
Btw, Al, you were so right about my diet. Fahdiz wasn't. But you: yes. I've been eating a lot more protein lately and it's made a significant difference in that I'm actually seeing some advancement, even as I lose weight, albeit at a slower pace than before.
173 bitches. The rest of you are fucking tubbos. :yeah:
My dear boy, you have the cart before the horse; I don't think you have the right approach, perhaps doing the activity or sport and then seeing what physique best serves it, and so by that route ending up with an appropriate diet and a sustainable weight.
As it is, just focusing on weight as the sole target, I suspect will be tend towards yo-yo dieting and diminished potential fitness.
Incidentally I probably currently weight about 11 stone, so about 154 lbs, now if I was still doing a lot of medium distance running I'd be about 10 1/2 stone. Or if still into squash/general fitness tending toward 12 1/2 stone. No if I was madly into weights I guess I'd be approaching 14-14 1/2 stone. As I say horses for courses.
Quote from: mongers on April 29, 2013, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 29, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
I disagree with you now. I believe strongly I will disagree with you if I make 50.
Btw, Al, you were so right about my diet. Fahdiz wasn't. But you: yes. I've been eating a lot more protein lately and it's made a significant difference in that I'm actually seeing some advancement, even as I lose weight, albeit at a slower pace than before.
173 bitches. The rest of you are fucking tubbos. :yeah:
My dear boy, you have the cart before the horse; I don't think you have the right approach, perhaps doing the activity or sport and then seeing what physique best serves it, and so by that route ending up with an appropriate diet and a sustainable weight.
As it is, just focusing on weight as the sole target, I suspect will be tend towards yo-yo dieting and diminished potential fitness.
Incidentally I probably currently weight about 11 stone, so about 154 lbs, now if I was still doing a lot of medium distance running I'd be about 10 1/2 stone. Or if still into squash/general fitness tending toward 12 1/2 stone. No if I was madly into weights I guess I'd be approaching 14-14 1/2 stone. As I say horses for courses.
Ide, Mongers speaks wisely.
FWIW, when I stop actively exercising I quickly lose weight. I've never found anyone say I look better when that happens.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 26, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 25, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Old yoga women disturb me. There's just something...wrong about them.
50 isn't old--especially if you've taken care of yourself. If you don't agree with me now, I suspect you will as you approach 50.
In my book late 20s is old :contract:
Ended up doing a little over 400 miles on the bike this month; will do more in May.
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
Maybe we should have a separate nutrition thread, that way Ide's wacky dieting fads could be segregated off ?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
I have a lot of difficulty with concentration etc if I miss lunch.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
I have a lot of difficulty with concentration etc if I miss lunch.
I generally find as long as I have a breakfast, I can go up to about 12 hours before needing to each again in the evening.
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
I have a lot of difficulty with concentration etc if I miss lunch.
I generally find as long as I have a breakfast, I can go up to about 12 hours before needing to each again in the evening.
This army travels on its stomach
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2013, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 01, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I ate lunch to day for the first time in...I can't remember. Holy crap I'm stuffed from just 2 small tostadas.
I have a lot of difficulty with concentration etc if I miss lunch.
I generally find as long as I have a breakfast, I can go up to about 12 hours before needing to each again in the evening.
This army travels on its stomach
:thumbsup:
I think it's because I no longer eat out or have lunch, that I'm used to going without for long periods and then fitting in much of my eating in a small section of the day. Sometime's I do it the other way around, say on weekends where I'd breakfast late, have a snack and then a main meal by early evening, so I'll be not eating for 14-18 hours of the day, though that includes sleeping.
Incidentally isn't that some current fad diet ?
Weight loss is really slowing down as I get near my target weight. I'm down 32 pounds, but the last 5 took a month.
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:08:32 PMI'll be not eating for 14-18 hours of the day, though that includes sleeping.
Incidentally isn't that some current fad diet ?
"Intermittent Fasting."
Quote from: ulmont on May 02, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:08:32 PMI'll be not eating for 14-18 hours of the day, though that includes sleeping.
Incidentally isn't that some current fad diet ?
"Intermittent Fasting."
Or as we used to call it in the old days "not eating breakfast".
Quote from: Brazen on May 02, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: ulmont on May 02, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:08:32 PMI'll be not eating for 14-18 hours of the day, though that includes sleeping.
Incidentally isn't that some current fad diet ?
"Intermittent Fasting."
Or as we used to call it in the old days "not eating breakfast".
Hope, that's the one thing I
Never miss; try googling for the 'Cornflake Ritual'. :cool:
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2013, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: Brazen on May 02, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: ulmont on May 02, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 01, 2013, 04:08:32 PMI'll be not eating for 14-18 hours of the day, though that includes sleeping.
Incidentally isn't that some current fad diet ?
"Intermittent Fasting."
Or as we used to call it in the old days "not eating breakfast".
Hope, that's the one thing I Never miss; try googling for the 'Cornflake Ritual'. :cool:
Does this ritual involve human sacrifice? :hmm:
Did the 25 miles again...though not quite. Since it snowed this week the last quarter of a mile was snowed in and/or muddy. Still, the way back was wonderful with a 10 mph tailwind - highest gear the entire way and 40+ mph down from the summit.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2013, 01:11:03 PM
Does this ritual involve human sacrifice? :hmm:
Of a sort.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornflake_Girl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornflake_Girl)
Quote from: PDH on May 04, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
Did the 25 miles again...though not quite. Since it snowed this week the last quarter of a mile was snowed in and/or muddy. Still, the way back was wonderful with a 10 mph tailwind - highest gear the entire way and 40+ mph down from the summit.
Sounds like great fun, a friend was telling me, he and some mates were out in the week doing those sorts of speeds down hill on trails/minor roads a bit like yours and with a tailwind, I think on a mix of mountain, 29ers and XC bikes. Some of it in the dark, but they have excellent lights, said they had a blast. :cool:
But for me, old and bold pilots and so forth, that's a little too fast, around here there are a few places I'll break 30 mph, but often being on the fringes of a large conurbation and with more dozy elderly drivers about, I have to be keep my speed down a bit, be prepared to take evasive action and keep a watch eye on junctions/turnings.
Popped out earlier this evening to do some food shop, did about 30 miles, all of it rather flat seeing as the majority was on trails following old railway lines, elsewhere there was one hill of about 60 feet ! :P
I used to bike down the hills in Berkeley, the area behind Lawrence Labs and around Tilden Park. Strawberry Canyon or Claremont Avenue could see 50 mph with traffic...fun when I was 21.
Played some hoops with the boys for a couple hours today. That was harder than I remember it...
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2013, 05:57:47 PM
Played some hoops with the boys for a couple hours today. That was harder than I remember it...
I thought you just stood there and let ball dropped into hoop. :P
Yeah, but he's got to lift his arms to do it.
Tomorrow the wind is supposed to be coming out of the east. Maybe I should ride the bike to the summit (6 miles, 1500 foot rise) then?
Probably not.
Anyone here fall into this category ? :
Quote
Quarter of adults walk just an hour a week, survey finds
A poll for the walking organisation the Ramblers suggests 25% of adults walk for no more than one hour each week.
The YouGov survey, which polled 2,000 adults to find out where and when they walked, found another 43% reported walking for less than two hours a week.
Government guidelines say people should do 150 minutes of "moderate" physical activity each week.
The survey asked people about the total amount of walking they did, including trips to school, work or the shops.
The Ramblers, who are promoting a "Get Walking Week" from 4-11 May, say there is already research showing that two thirds of adults in the UK do too little exercise - and that this survey backs that up.
'Inactivity pandemic'
Despite the low levels of walking reported, virtually all those surveyed - 93% - agreed walking was a good form of exercise.
.....
rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22401589 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22401589)
Less than 10 minutes a day? That can't be right.
That flu really kicked my ass. Leaving for a cycling trip on Friday and nowhere near ready for it. :(
Quote from: Maladict on May 06, 2013, 08:35:04 AM
That flu really kicked my ass. Leaving for a cycling trip on Friday and nowhere near ready for it. :(
Cool, have fun. :cheers:
And no I think for many people 10 minutes could be correct, we have some chronically unfit people here.
Quote from: Maladict on May 06, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
Less than 10 minutes a day? That can't be right.
The wonders of automobile ownership. :contract:
Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2013, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2013, 05:57:47 PM
Played some hoops with the boys for a couple hours today. That was harder than I remember it...
I thought you just stood there and let ball dropped into hoop. :P
He was playing the hoop. ;)
Holding one's arms out in a circle in front of him for an hour = tiring.
Not to mention getting beaned in the noggin repeatedly.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 06, 2013, 10:57:17 AM
Not to mention getting beaned in the noggin repeatedly.
:lol:
That too.
I didn't ride sunday, too blustery, so I rode today. 20 miles after work, now I feel right. It is about time to get back to 80-100 miles of road work each week during the summer.
This thread is filled with the tall challenged.
Anyway, I went for my now custumary walk to while making a concerted effort to count the number of Canuck flags or Canuck jerseys I could spot along the way.
Number of flags 0
Number of Jerseys 2
I feel as one with my city once again.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/the-scientific-7-minute-workout/
QuoteThe Scientific 7-Minute Workout
This column appears in the May 12 issue of The New York Times Magazine.
Exercise science is a fine and intellectually fascinating thing. But sometimes you just want someone to lay out guidelines for how to put the newest fitness research into practice.
An article in the May-June issue of the American College of Sports Medicine's Health & Fitness Journal does just that. In 12 exercises deploying only body weight, a chair and a wall, it fulfills the latest mandates for high-intensity effort, which essentially combines a long run and a visit to the weight room into about seven minutes of steady discomfort — all of it based on science.
"There's very good evidence" that high-intensity interval training provides "many of the fitness benefits of prolonged endurance training but in much less time," says Chris Jordan, the director of exercise physiology at the Human Performance Institute in Orlando, Fla., and co-author of the new article.
Work by scientists at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, and other institutions shows, for instance, that even a few minutes of training at an intensity approaching your maximum capacity produces molecular changes within muscles comparable to those of several hours of running or bike riding.
Interval training, though, requires intervals; the extremely intense activity must be intermingled with brief periods of recovery. In the program outlined by Mr. Jordan and his colleagues, this recovery is provided in part by a 10-second rest between exercises. But even more, he says, it's accomplished by alternating an exercise that emphasizes the large muscles in the upper body with those in the lower body. During the intermezzo, the unexercised muscles have a moment to, metaphorically, catch their breath, which makes the order of the exercises important.
The exercises should be performed in rapid succession, allowing 30 seconds for each, while, throughout, the intensity hovers at about an 8 on a discomfort scale of 1 to 10, Mr. Jordan says. Those seven minutes should be, in a word, unpleasant. The upside is, after seven minutes, you're done.
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Original article:
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-healthfitness/Fulltext/2013/05000/HIGH_INTENSITY_CIRCUIT_TRAINING_USING_BODY_WEIGHT_.5.aspx
Say, I do believe I'll try that...
High Intensity Fad.
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
High Intensity Fad.
The great thing about exercise (and nutrition) is that you try something and it either works or it doesn't. I unquestionably have the 7 minutes a day to try this - I may or may not, on any given day, have the hour a day for low-intensity exercise.
I don't treat things like fads; I treat them like experiments. Does this produce desired/expected results? Keep doing it. Does it not? Stop and do something different.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 14, 2013, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
High Intensity Fad.
The great thing about exercise (and nutrition) is that you try something and it either works or it doesn't. I unquestionably have the 7 minutes a day to try this - I may or may not, on any given day, have the hour a day for low-intensity exercise.
I don't treat things like fads; I treat them like experiments. Does this produce desired/expected results? Keep doing it. Does it not? Stop and do something different.
:cool:
It's just I'm beginning to see more reports of people having burst blood vessels, strokes from trying out some of these programmes, I suspect they'll be a backlash against them.
Though for a small subset of people these schemes are useful, but for a larger group short intensity exercise probably has more drawbacks and risks then net positives. For those people promoting a generally more active long- term lifestyle would be more useful ?
I've been doing that for ages, but not just 7 minutes. That can't be enough to build up anything useful.
Also, the Eiffel is a fantastic place to go cycling. :cool:
Quote from: Maladict on May 14, 2013, 02:19:18 PM
I've been doing that for ages, but not just 7 minutes. That can't be enough to build up anything useful.
Also, the Eiffel is a fantastic place to go cycling. :cool:
:cool:
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 02:01:12 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 14, 2013, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
High Intensity Fad.
The great thing about exercise (and nutrition) is that you try something and it either works or it doesn't. I unquestionably have the 7 minutes a day to try this - I may or may not, on any given day, have the hour a day for low-intensity exercise.
I don't treat things like fads; I treat them like experiments. Does this produce desired/expected results? Keep doing it. Does it not? Stop and do something different.
:cool:
It's just I'm beginning to see more reports of people having burst blood vessels, strokes from trying out some of these programmes, I suspect they'll be a backlash against them.
Though for a small subset of people these schemes are useful, but for a larger group short intensity exercise probably has more drawbacks and risks then net positives. For those people promoting a generally more active long- term lifestyle would be more useful ?
I don't think the goal is "7 minutes of high-intensity workout then eat like a fucking horse all day while sitting on your ass".
I think the notion is "start your day with 7 minutes of high-intensity workout, eat reasonably, and maybe try and walk a bit more instead of driving everywhere in the meantime".
I would guess that if you have a stroke after 7 minutes of high-intensity exercise...you're probably just supposed to die.
So as an experiment I did 5 days in a row of cycling - all of it hard 14-16 mph riding over hills and with one good climb at least. I have done 120 miles in that time, nothing on me is too worn out (except my ass from the tiny unpadded bike seat), and I feel good.
My goal of 1200 miles before the snow is looking rather good.
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
High Intensity Fad.
Meh, athletes have been doing this for years to get stronger in the small amount of time they have between practices. The fad is related to workouts that are more extreme then these exercises.
So at karate class tonight, before the teen/adult class started one of the 13-year old girls started asking Princesca questions about sex. Yeah, that wasn't creepy or anything. :wacko:
Quote from: Caliga on May 15, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
So at karate class tonight, before the teen/adult class started one of the 13-year old girls started asking Princesca questions about sex. Yeah, that wasn't creepy or anything. :wacko:
You should have kicked their ass for hitting on your woman.
Quote from: Caliga on May 15, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
So at karate class tonight, before the teen/adult class started one of the 13-year old girls started asking Princesca questions about sex. Yeah, that wasn't creepy or anything. :wacko:
Got her digits?
Let uncle Ed call her.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 15, 2013, 08:01:14 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
High Intensity Fad.
Meh, athletes have been doing this for years to get stronger in the small amount of time they have between practices. The fad is related to workouts that are more extreme then these exercises.
:yes:
I did this 7-minute workout yesterday. It was intense but by no means anywhere near as extreme as some workouts I've done. Felt great, though.
Quote from: PDH on May 15, 2013, 08:23:23 PM
You should have kicked their ass for hitting on your woman.
:sleep:
Specifically, she was asking how often men think about sex and said she heard college guys think about sex at least once every 600 seconds. As soon as I heard what they were talking about I 'wandered off' into the sparring dojo to practice.
Quote from: Syt on May 14, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
The Scientific 7-Minute Workout
Thanks, that'll be useful when I'm travelling.
Taking it easy today, got the local Night Hike tomorrow. It's only 15km, but the girls I'm walking it with are very, very slow, which is somehow more exhausting than doing it at a decent lick of speed :lol: They need more death marches.
Not doing a great deal recently, had bronchitics, yuck nasty stuff, beginning to feel human again; how on earth do smokers put up with 'smoker's cough' for like all of their adult life ? :hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on May 16, 2013, 05:26:04 AM
Specifically, she was asking how often men think about sex and said she heard college guys think about sex at least once every 600 seconds.
If she took away those two zeros she might have a better understanding of the college male mind. She is going to go through life thinking men are more thoughtful than they really are.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 16, 2013, 05:26:04 AM
Specifically, she was asking how often men think about sex and said she heard college guys think about sex at least once every 600 seconds.
If she took away those two zeros she might have a better understanding of the college male mind. She is going to go through life thinking men are more thoughtful than they really are.
Did a little over 40 miles on the folding bike this afternoon, I'm fairly sure I only once thought of sex, as I approached and overtook an nice female arse, it had a woman attached to it too. :cool:
Quote from: PDH on May 15, 2013, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 15, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
So at karate class tonight, before the teen/adult class started one of the 13-year old girls started asking Princesca questions about sex. Yeah, that wasn't creepy or anything. :wacko:
You should have kicked their ass for hitting on your woman.
The kid's in karate class, presumably with her teeny friends. That attempted ass-kicking might end in embarassment. :D
Quote from: Malthus on May 16, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
The kid's in karate class, presumably with her teeny friends. That attempted ass-kicking might end in embarassment. :D
She is a higher rank than me (I'm an orange belt, she's a blue belt) but I'm pretty sure I can easily take her. We were doing a wrist grab defense last night and the sensei easily forced her to the ground with it even though he asked her to resist as hard as she could. He did it on this other dude, Griff, who is about my size and strength level, I think, and could barely get him down. Griff OTOH is a yellow belt, but I'm pretty sure he could kick the living shit out of me. My sparring record with him is 2-1 in his favor.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
If she took away those two zeros she might have a better understanding of the college male mind. She is going to go through life thinking men are more thoughtful than they really are.
She's a little bit odd. Her brother also comes to class and he makes her look totally normal by comparison though, as he's autistic and is fond of going up to people and speaking utter gibberish but then expecting you to converse with him.
Example:
BUTCH: "School is no place for students."
CAL: "Ummm, ok."
BUTCH: "It is! It is!"
CAL: "It isn't, or it is?"
BUTCH: "It's no place for students."
CAL: "I disagree."
BUTCH: "I'm glad I'm not late for karate!"
CAL: "Is a dojo no place for karate students?"
BUTCH: "Why would you say that?"
:wacko:
Oh, I forgot to mention that their mother also happens to be Princesca's hairdresser, and always asks how Butch and Rose are doing. Wonder if she'll mention that conversation at her next appointment. :)
So I am breaking down and getting a road bike. I am just doing too much long hauls to not have something that rolls well and climbs better than my old mountain bike. I am hoping that after I get the swing of this I can start riding closer to 150-170 miles each week, with a couple of 40 mile round trippers in there.
Quote from: PDH on May 17, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
So I am breaking down and getting a road bike. I am just doing too much long hauls to not have something that rolls well and climbs better than my old mountain bike. I am hoping that after I get the swing of this I can start riding closer to 150-170 miles each week, with a couple of 40 mile round trippers in there.
Awesome! You'll be amazed at how much more efficient on the road an actual road bike is.
Quote from: PDH on May 17, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
So I am breaking down and getting a road bike. I am just doing too much long hauls to not have something that rolls well and climbs better than my old mountain bike. I am hoping that after I get the swing of this I can start riding closer to 150-170 miles each week, with a couple of 40 mile round trippers in there.
:cool:
Good luck with that, just don't go too small and hard with the tires.
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
Good luck with that, just don't go too small and hard with the tires.
I don't have enough money for a monster bike, likely no racing tires for me. I want to get a frame that is large enough, too. Still, I want something that will roll well, and I am padded enough on the ass to take a bit.
Quote from: PDH on May 17, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
Good luck with that, just don't go too small and hard with the tires.
I don't have enough money for a monster bike, likely no racing tires for me. I want to get a frame that is large enough, too. Still, I want something that will roll well, and I am padded enough on the ass to take a bit.
Yeah, it's tricky to work out what works.
Currently I'm having a lot of fun on my folder, the tyres were chosen by my friend in the bike shop, at first sight you wouldn't think such a wide, non-slick, low pressure (45-50ppi) tyre would work.
And yet they run really smooth and fast, but grip really well, tend to accelerate real quickly downhill, plenty of braking needed. :cool:
I might actually go for a harder puncture resistant type of tire, simply because of the road surfaces here. Still, the bike shop owner is a friend and we are going to try out a couple of models with different components tomorrow.
Quote from: PDH on May 17, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
I might actually go for a harder puncture resistant type of tire, simply because of the road surfaces here. Still, the bike shop owner is a friend and we are going to try out a couple of models with different components tomorrow.
:cool:
Yeah, I use some real cheap Michelin tyres on my shopping bike, which are surprisingly hard wearing, pretty puncture resistant, a bit heavy, but roll very nicely, though not the best grip on gravel/non-road.
Conversely Schwalble always look like a nicely designed and well engineered tyre, but the ones I've had seem a bit sluggish, though plenty of people swear by their puncture resistance.
Given that the roadsides I will be riding on have a fair bit of gravel and the occasional bottle fragment on them I will be asking around for the best tires to not go "ffffffttt"
I gained a pound. :cry:
Tested out some bikes the local shop put together for me this morning. The 58" Specialized is what I went with. After the haggling and such I took it out...
My God it is criminal. On the flats and climbs it rolls wonderfully. I can see by the end of summer that I can do 50 miles at a stretch. The only learning curve I will have will be descending - it is so light and narrow with the road tires that it feels off. Still, it is night and day as Fhdhzh said.
Quote from: PDH on May 18, 2013, 02:29:36 PM
Tested out some bikes the local shop put together for me this morning. The 58" Specialized is what I went with. After the haggling and such I took it out...
My God it is criminal. On the flats and climbs it rolls wonderfully. I can see by the end of summer that I can do 50 miles at a stretch. The only learning curve I will have will be descending - it is so light and narrow with the road tires that it feels off. Still, it is night and day as Fhdhzh said.
:cool:
Sounds brilliant fun.
That's some investment, you've probably spent more on that than I've done on my last five bikes. :blush:
I'm sure that's just the 'twitchiness' you experience when moving to road bikes and the general precision feel of the ride and steering, compared to handling of off-road bikes.
Well, I didn't spend massive amounts on it, it cost less than my mountain bike I bought 7 years ago...
I will have some adjustment, I know. The position on the bike, the various power output by where I hold the bars, less gears, etc. Still, it was a thoroughly enjoyable first outing. One thing I noticed, the pounding on the road wasn't too bad, as I was less vertical than before. Maybe a new part of my ass will be sore tomorrow.
Quote from: mongers on May 18, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
Sounds brilliant fun.
Oh, and climbing that 2 mile hill I showed you on the roadbike? I had to play with the gears on the way up because the former monolithic climb now had undulations where I had to play with the speed I was turning. I like this.
I found braking on the front wheel the most counterintuitive thing to learn when descending, so used to braking on the back wheel in the low countries.
Quote from: Maladict on May 18, 2013, 05:43:08 PM
I found braking on the front wheel the most counterintuitive thing to learn when descending, so used to braking on the back wheel in the low countries.
Yeah, the braking is so different from my mountain bike to the new one. That will be the big thing to learn. Around here most of the best routes have at least one good climb (meaning one good descent), so I will have to come up to snuff pretty quick. Still, I did manage maybe 30+ mph (maybe 50 kmph) today. I was far back on the saddle though, so I was alright using a bit of front brake.
Quote from: PDH on May 18, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 18, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
Sounds brilliant fun.
Oh, and climbing that 2 mile hill I showed you on the roadbike? I had to play with the gears on the way up because the former monolithic climb now had undulations where I had to play with the speed I was turning. I like this.
So less just grinding out the miles and more using the bikes performance/sportiness to adjust the both of you to the subtleties of the route?
In fact you've inspired me to get the flat-bar road bike out of the shed and give it a spin around the forest tomorrow. :)
Quote from: mongers on May 18, 2013, 06:02:23 PM
So less just grinding out the miles and more using the bikes performance/sportiness to adjust the both of you to the subtleties of the route?
Even into the headwind in the return 10 miles it just seemed to roll better. I really think I could do longer distances on this bike.
Quote from: Caliga on May 16, 2013, 05:26:04 AM
Quote from: PDH on May 15, 2013, 08:23:23 PM
You should have kicked their ass for hitting on your woman.
:sleep:
Specifically, she was asking how often men think about sex and said she heard college guys think about sex at least once every 600 seconds. As soon as I heard what they were talking about I 'wandered off' into the sparring dojo to practice.
Every ten minutes? What are they, queer?
I've been training rather extensively for several months with a goal of a sub 50 minute 10k that is in 6 weeks....I'm beginning to get frustrated and doubt I'll make it. To make my time I need to run the 10k at about 8 min/mile, and about a month ago I made a 3 mile run in 23:16--I thought I was in great shape. But I have really not progressed despite running 6 days a week--last night I tried a 5 mile run in 41 minutes and didn't make it (I probably could have finished but it was beginning to feel like torture).
I'm bumping up my long run today to 9 miles, which I do at a 9 min/mile pace, and these long runs don't give me any trouble. So on the up side I at least think that in a few months I'll be able to do a sub 2 hour half marathon without much difficulty. But it is the sub 50 minute 10k that I really want to achieve.
Get a bike. That will help those splits.
Did a 15K night hike on Friday, which left me so wired and hurty I couldn't sleep. I met my old running coach there who persuaded me to come back this morning. The Eurovision party was probably not the the best fuel... Been too exhausted to lift my head off the sofa all afternoon. I so don't push myself when I run alone.
Quote from: PDH on May 19, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
Get a bike. That will help those splits.
And join a running club. P
Quote from: PDH on May 19, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
Get a bike. That will help those splits.
Probably also the shin splints.
I did 65 miles in the past 2 days on the new bike. I will have to ride farther in order to get the same time on bike that I had...I seem to get 1-2 mph more on the road bike.
Not too shabby for a new bike that still hasn't fully settled in.
Quote from: PDH on May 19, 2013, 01:45:28 PM
I did 65 miles in the past 2 days on the new bike. I will have to ride farther in order to get the same time on bike that I had...I seem to get 1-2 mph more on the road bike.
Not too shabby for a new bike that still hasn't fully settled in.
:cool:
That's a hell of a lot more than I've done this weekend.
Plus to some extent you'll benefit from having to settle into the bike, no matter how good the initial set up.
What pedals are you using ?
I ask as I got the flatbar road/hybrid out of the shed to give it a run and it had no pedals on it, I'd taken the heavy metal DMR V8 off it before winter, so I stuck some 'plastic' Japanese MKS pedals I had to hand. I have to say a useful improvement. :)
Right now just normal pedals. I didn't want to plunk down the cash on cleats without a lot of background checking - I have one bad foot that can't handle a lot of shoes. I might just go old school and get toe clips and wear comfortable shoes, I am not too worried about how I look - I am the guy who rides in shorts (with biking pants underneath) and a t-shirt.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2013, 10:53:12 PM
Every ten minutes? What are they, queer?
The quote was "thinking about sex" not "having sex".
Stupid 40 degrees and rain, no chance for a bike ride this afternoon.
I've been seriously slacking off this year. Weight gain is quite noticeable. :blush:
On the bright side, since I'm being laid off, I'm going to have a lot of free time to correct that. :P
Starting 1st June every day is Gym Day. Biking, too, if summer decides to finally make an appearance. :mad:
Down 10 lbs. Now weighing in at 255. Only 15 lbs to go to reach my goal.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Down 10 lbs. Now weighing in at 255. Only 15 lbs to go to reach my goal.
:cool:
Don't over do it as 250 odd isn't on a large and very tall frame. :cool:
Haven't done much the last few days, popped out for a bike run up and down the valley to Salisbury, did 40 miles, the first half into a strong headwind, good exercise I guess. <_<
A good fighting weight for me is about 190 lbs (I'm 5'10", relatively broad-shouldered.) That means I need to lose about 25-30 lbs.
I exercise decently and don't eat a lot of sweet stuff; what I need is greater portion control.
Quote from: mongers on May 21, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Down 10 lbs. Now weighing in at 255. Only 15 lbs to go to reach my goal.
:cool:
Don't over do it as 250 odd isn't on a large and very tall frame. :cool:
Its mainly about the distribution of the weight. During my playing days I had a very low body fat percentage and quite large shoulders and arms. Somehow over the years those muscles seem to have descended into my mid section.
At the worst point of my illness my waist ballooned up to 40''. Now I am back down below 38 and ideally I would like to get back to 36 with a redistrubition of bulk back up in the upper body.
I will never see the low body fat percentages of 20-30 years ago but at least I can work to being more of a fit midlifer.
Quotewhat I need is greater portion control.
Yeah, I am finding that is the secret.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 21, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Down 10 lbs. Now weighing in at 255. Only 15 lbs to go to reach my goal.
:cool:
Don't over do it as 250 odd isn't on a large and very tall frame. :cool:
Its mainly about the distribution of the weight. During my playing days I had a very low body fat percentage and quite large shoulders and arms. Somehow over the years those muscles seem to have descended into my mid section.
At the worst point of my illness my waist ballooned up to 40''. Now I am back down below 38 and ideally I would like to get back to 36 with a redistrubition of bulk back up in the upper body.
I will never see the low body fat percentages of 20-30 years ago but at least I can work to being more of a fit midlifer.
Tell me about it, I looked in the mirror last night and notice my pecs aren't where they used to be, still about, just further south. :hmm:
We're both fighting gravity.:(
I benched 2000lb yesterday. :showoff:
...Just not all at once.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Down 10 lbs. Now weighing in at 255. Only 15 lbs to go to reach my goal.
Heh, I'm on the same trajectory - I'm down to 196, 6 more to go before I hit my target (this year, so far, I'm down 34 pounds).
Actually, ideally I should go down to 185 or so to deal with the inevitable bounce-back when I go off strictly dieting, but we will see.
And yes, portion control. It's all about the physics. :D
As I mentioned I've been training really hard, and probably not eaten right or gotten enough rest.
On Sunday, I was laid out with a headache and general fatigue and skipped running (no flu symptoms though). Stayed in bed most of the day. On Monday, my headache was reduced though I considered skipping work, but went in anyway. So now it is Thursday, and the headache has basically gone away though I have some vertigo. I tried exercising today for the first time since Saturday. The stretch was the first sign something was wrong. My first 2 minutes running were like some bizarre form of torture--my whole body tensed up-- but that went away. I only made it 3 miles of a planned 5 mile easy run though.
Anyone ever gone through something like that?
If anyone thinks of it, I'm not going to the doctor.
AF, over-training?
Quote from: mongers on May 23, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
AF, over-training?
That is what I think (and hope). But I'm aggressively trying to get in the best shape possible because I have some challenging plans this summer, so a setback would be less than ideal.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 23, 2013, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 23, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
AF, over-training?
That is what I think (and hope). But I'm aggressively trying to get in the best shape possible because I have some challenging plans this summer, so a setback would be less than ideal.
Back in my playing days I would sometimes get those sensations - normally it was caused by not getting enough hydration.
QuoteIf anyone thinks of it, I'm not going to the doctor.
Thats just silly.
I've been given a copy of Insanity. I intend to sit on the sofa and watch it, laughing, over a bottle of wine.
The gym is quit.
A strategic retreat in the war against chub. We will regroup at a later date.
Quote from: Brazen on May 24, 2013, 08:30:56 AM
I've been given a copy of Insanity. I intend to sit on the sofa and watch it, laughing, over a bottle of wine.
Do they want you to injure yourself ? :unsure:
Myself I had my three hours of gentle cardiovascular exercise this afternoon. :)
last 8 days I did 150 miles on the bike. Good thing I have been eating enough or such exercise might cause weight loss!
Quote from: PDH on May 25, 2013, 06:12:54 PM
last 8 days I did 150 miles on the bike. Good thing I have been eating enough or such exercise might cause weight loss!
:cool:
Good going, I've probably only done twice that in the whole of the month.
Yeas as for food intake, I was thinking that only 15 minutes ago, I should eat like a horse/whatever I want, as I think not enough 'fuel' can be a real issue.
I bonked back on a ride a month ago - that sucked bad. Burning an additional 1500-2000 calories 5 times a week means I have to eat more.
Fourth straight day today of long cycling. The long holiday weekend means I can spend a couple hours on the road each day.
Today was the first time coming down the big descent I had to fight a headwind, but in a crouch the new bike moves much faster into the wind. Also, today was the first time I got into an ad hoc group (of 4) for some of the ride. It does help with the wind, but I like my own pace better, wind and all.
Age is a harsh mistress. I've slipped from half assed morning exercises to thinking about half assed morning exercises and sleeping in. :weep:
Quote from: Jaron on May 26, 2013, 08:01:17 PM
Age is a harsh mistress. I've slipped from half assed morning exercises to thinking about half assed morning exercises and sleeping in. :weep:
:cool:
Even thinking about exercise is exhausting. :cry:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Even thinking about exercise is exhausting. :cry:
Having to keep bumping this thread is even more taxing. :(
Lost another 5 lbs this week.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 27, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
Lost another 5 lbs this week.
You know it is in the last place you'll look.
Planning on doing two slightly longer trips next weekend, weather and fitness permitting. :hmm:
I'm doing the Butterfield Bootcamp Fitness DVD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acDTfjJsV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acDTfjJsV4)
And Prancercise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-50GjySwew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-50GjySwew)
Quote from: Brazen on May 29, 2013, 02:39:29 PM
I'm doing the Butterfield Bootcamp Fitness DVD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acDTfjJsV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acDTfjJsV4)
And Prancercise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-50GjySwew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-50GjySwew)
Won't a lot of these fitness dvds turn up in charity shops in 12 months time ? :D
Quote from: PDH on May 26, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
Fourth straight day today of long cycling. The long holiday weekend means I can spend a couple hours on the road each day.
Today was the first time coming down the big descent I had to fight a headwind, but in a crouch the new bike moves much faster into the wind. Also, today was the first time I got into an ad hoc group (of 4) for some of the ride. It does help with the wind, but I like my own pace better, wind and all.
Illness and the coldest spring in 50 years means I haven't done much, all told about 430 miles this month, 300 miles of those were on my single speed 'shopping bike'.
Maybe I should take a leaf out of PDH's book and get a road bike? :unsure:
Though given the state of the roads around here, possibly not worth it; I came across two potholes today that if a motorcyclist hit them would almost certainly bring them down and cause injure, basically cast iron manhole covers with the potholes having opened up on one side of them.
I shall have to go back at the weekend, photograph them and send to the council. :hmm:
Quote from: PDH on May 27, 2013, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 27, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
Lost another 5 lbs this week.
You know it is in the last place you'll look.
I may have found it <_<
Well inspired by PDH I went to my local bike shop at the weekend to look at road bikes; Rob, the Olympic mechanic said I would be better off with a hybrid, so yesterday went into the shed and ferreted out my large frame 700mm hybrid thingy, didn't need much doing to it and took it for a test ride that evening. All told not a bad ride, it fits me better than I remember.
So this evening, I popped out and did a bit over 100 km getting to Stonehenge and back. The bikes not bad, quite a good fit, just need a less comfy saddle and decide on what tyres to put on it. Currently it has some 25mm 300g Michelins, but give the state of the roads I have to get something armoured with a bit more volume. Looking at the state of the tyres they now have a fair few nicks in them, I think I was lucky to get away without a puncture this evening.
Given I haven't been that way since before winter, there was lots of breaking on steep hills, as I didn't want to hit any pot-holes made by the winter weather/SUV drivers. Good job too, as there were some quite bad ones, though now I'm familiar with road condition and have a better grasp of how the bike handles I can push the boat out a bit more.
Funny thing is Rob's done his employer out of a probably sale by giving me the appropriate advice for my situation; top bloke. :bowler:
I ended up getting heavy tires, armadillos, for the roads around here. Pumped up to 110lbs they roll really well and are armored enough to survive the sharp little rocks and the cracks in the asphalt.
Today was windy, but yesterday I did 30 miles averaging over 16mph, not bad for 47.
Quote from: PDH on June 03, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
yesterday I did 30 miles averaging over 16mph, not bad for 47.
That's good; I just did 9 miles at a bit under 7 mph, and it kicked my ass.
Maybe it would be easier with a bike. :P
Be easier still with a motor scooter.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 03, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Be easier still with a motor scooter.
If God wanted me to get around by motor scooter, He would have given me one at birth. Or a bike for that matter.
I was born into this world naked, and I believe that is how God wants me to run, though the police disagree. I hope God understands my concession to the secular authorities regarding the wearing of pants.
:lol:
:D
You were born 2500 years too late.
Quote from: PDH on June 03, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
I ended up getting heavy tires, armadillos, for the roads around here. Pumped up to 110lbs they roll really well and are armored enough to survive the sharp little rocks and the cracks in the asphalt.
Today was windy, but yesterday I did 30 miles averaging over 16mph, not bad for 47.
:cool:
Brother, we're fighting the good fight. :)
Yeah, seems armoured tyres is the logical choice.
Back from my holiday, on to the gym to face reality. :(
Quote from: alfred russel on June 03, 2013, 11:29:29 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 03, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Be easier still with a motor scooter.
If God wanted me to get around by motor scooter, He would have given me one at birth. Or a bike for that matter.
I was born into this world naked, and I believe that is how God wants me to run, though the police disagree. I hope God understands my concession to the secular authorities regarding the wearing of pants.
:D
Uncomfortable image, AF as 'The naked rambler/runner'.
Anyone doing much at the moment ? :unsure:
I'm doing some lifting to prep for my potential stonemason's apprenticeship.
I'm back at the gym, doing more cardio as well. I'm also on a limited diet, since I want to lose what fat I gained the last 6 months (5kg tops). Hard not to eat between meals when spending most of the day at home though.
I got my oldest son a roadbike to replace his mountain bike for communiting to school. He loves it.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 13, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
I got my oldest son a roadbike to replace his mountain bike for communiting to school. He loves it.
:cool:
Yes, I found myself looking at road bikes yesterday. :hmm:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 13, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
I got my oldest son a roadbike to replace his mountain bike for communiting to school. He loves it.
Get good tires for it - armadillos or some such. Just the extra assurance of heavy weight tires means that unswept or partially swept roads are no longer a hazard.
My road bike has been a great buy. I can ride at a higher tempo, about 2 mph more than on the old mtn bike, and go farther. I am getting a second bottle cage for it - after vacation next month I am going to do some 50 mile round trips (in about 3 to 3.5 hours).
Quote from: PDH on June 13, 2013, 04:12:33 PM
My road bike has been a great buy. I can ride at a higher tempo, about 2 mph more than on the old mtn bike, and go farther. I am getting a second bottle cage for it - after vacation next month I am going to do some 50 mile round trips (in about 3 to 3.5 hours).
:cool:
You're selling the concept well.
Quote from: fahdiz on June 13, 2013, 04:02:59 PM
I'm doing some lifting to prep for my potential stonemason's apprenticeship.
Same here, but for my confirmed plumbing/pipefitter apprenticeship.
Quote from: Drakken on June 13, 2013, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on June 13, 2013, 04:02:59 PM
I'm doing some lifting to prep for my potential stonemason's apprenticeship.
Same here, but for my confirmed plumbing/pipefitter apprenticeship.
:thumbsup: Awesome, Drakken!
Just popped out on my large flat-bar hybrid/tourer thingy, to do one of my little circuits.
Did just under 14 miles in 50 minutes, somewhat slowed as I live south of the town and have to get a mile or two through it before I can get onto clear junction/traffic free roads. An average of about 16.5 mph, though it's pretty flat all the way, just up and down the river valley bottom.
I'm thinking I need to start clocking up some mileage on it and getting used to it as now configured, I've but some large mudguards and a substantial rack on the back carrying some useful panniers.
Quote from: Drakken on June 13, 2013, 09:48:17 PMSame here, but for my confirmed plumbing/pipefitter apprenticeship.
Your dreams of laying staggering amounts of pipe are about to come true!
But seriously, grats! :cheers:
Quote from: Jacob on June 14, 2013, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 13, 2013, 09:48:17 PMSame here, but for my confirmed plumbing/pipefitter apprenticeship.
Your dreams of laying staggering amounts of pipe are about to come true!
But seriously, grats! :cheers:
[Tarantino] He's going to become a hard, pipe-hittin' nigga. :D
Quote from: Jacob on June 14, 2013, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 13, 2013, 09:48:17 PMSame here, but for my confirmed plumbing/pipefitter apprenticeship.
Your dreams of laying staggering amounts of pipe are about to come true!
But seriously, grats! :cheers:
I think he'll be disappointed when he finds most of it involve bending his piping into multiple ninety degree bends. :D
Quote from: Malthus on June 14, 2013, 04:10:29 PM[Tarantino] He's going to become a hard, pipe-hittin' nigga. :D
I don't think there's a lot of crack smoking amongst plumbers in Quebec, but I could be wrong...
Signed up for a fairly tough 160km bike race in September.
Found out I don't have any available weekends left to train for it.
I am: terrible at planning things.
I had a massive allergic reaction hours after a 5K race yesterday, part hayfever, part asthma, part exercise-induced anaphylaxis. More evidence exercise is bad for you.
Quote from: Brazen on June 17, 2013, 04:58:23 AM
I had a massive allergic reaction hours after a 5K race yesterday, part hayfever, part asthma, part exercise-induced anaphylaxis. More evidence exercise is bad for you.
:(
Wrong sort of exercise? :hmm:
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2013, 03:35:48 AM
Signed up for a fairly tough 160km bike race in September.
Found out I don't have any available weekends left to train for it.
I am: terrible at planning things.
:cool:
Good luck with that, I couldn't attempt it.
What about doing some training now in the the evenings, whilst we still have these long days ?
Quote from: mongers on June 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
:cool:
Good luck with that, I couldn't attempt it.
What about doing some training now in the the evenings, whilst we still have these long days ?
It's pretty cool, especially the 22% climb just a few km before the finish line. :cool:
Long working hours and commute don't leave enough time for extended training in the evenings, I usually go to the gym instead. But it seems like an awful waste of the beautiful weather.
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
It's pretty cool, especially the 22% climb just a few km before the finish line. :cool:
Long working hours and commute don't leave enough time for extended training in the evenings, I usually go to the gym instead. But it seems like an awful waste of the beautiful weather.
Could you cycle some/all of the way to work?
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
It's pretty cool, especially the 22% climb just a few km before the finish line. :cool:
Long working hours and commute don't leave enough time for extended training in the evenings, I usually go to the gym instead. But it seems like an awful waste of the beautiful weather.
How long is this 22% climb? I died a bit just reading about it...
Quote from: Brazen on June 17, 2013, 08:38:29 AM
Could you cycle some/all of the way to work?
I cycle 20-30 mins on regular bike, so that doesn't count for much.
On the racing bike I could get to the office in 1-1,5 hrs which would be ok, but as there's no shower in the office I'd rather not :ph34r:
Quote from: PDH on June 17, 2013, 08:41:18 AM
How long is this 22% climb? I died a bit just reading about it...
Pretty short, it levels off after 500 meters or so. But after 150 kms it packs a nice punch.
And if you think that's bad... try Scanuppia in Italy.
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Quote from: Iormlund on June 13, 2013, 04:05:56 PM
I'm back at the gym, doing more cardio as well. I'm also on a limited diet, since I want to lose what fat I gained the last 6 months (5kg tops). Hard not to eat between meals when spending most of the day at home though.
Scale says I lost 2 kg this last week. :unsure:
Hitting the gym 5 days a week, trying to get down to little bit under what i was playing football so 210 or so. (was 225-230) playing LB at JC.
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
And if you think that's bad... try Scanuppia in Italy.
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:lol:
That's insane.
Quote from: PDH on June 17, 2013, 08:41:18 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 17, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
It's pretty cool, especially the 22% climb just a few km before the finish line. :cool:
Long working hours and commute don't leave enough time for extended training in the evenings, I usually go to the gym instead. But it seems like an awful waste of the beautiful weather.
How long is this 22% climb? I died a bit just reading about it...
There's a little forest village about 8 miles from here and the road for some reason includes a climb of 25% for all of about 25 metres of height, so they regularly get bike sportives going through there, just so the said sad gits can say they climbed a 25%. :rolleyes:
for 25 meters there are "climbs" around here of twice that. It is the climbs averaged over a mile or so that matter...One of the better ones here starts at 7800 feet and climbs to 10500 in about 10 miles. Not all simple gradient, but about 5 miles of 7.5% grade to warm the cockles of your heart.
Last Thursday I picked up the pace to about 7:10 a mile for 15 minutes on a treadmill, and apparently pulled my groin. I've been told by a trainer to take a week off.
I've been getting close to my goal of a sub 50 minute 10k, but in the past month have been derailed by this groin injury and was knocked for a loop for about a week from overtraining. Also, I have done a number on two of my toes, that now look like a freakshow.
I'm increasingly convinced that hod exists and is dedicated to keeping me from reaching my goals.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2013, 09:07:34 AM
Last Thursday I picked up the pace to about 7:10 a mile for 15 minutes on a treadmill, and apparently pulled my groin. I've been told by a trainer to take a week off.
I've been getting close to my goal of a sub 50 minute 10k, but in the past month have been derailed by this groin injury and was knocked for a loop for about a week from overtraining. Also, I have done a number on two of my toes, that now look like a freakshow.
I'm increasingly convinced that hod exists and is dedicated to keeping me from reaching my goals.
Were you and Brazen extras in 'A Bridge Too Far' ? :P
Quote from: mongers on June 19, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 19, 2013, 09:07:34 AM
Last Thursday I picked up the pace to about 7:10 a mile for 15 minutes on a treadmill, and apparently pulled my groin. I've been told by a trainer to take a week off.
I've been getting close to my goal of a sub 50 minute 10k, but in the past month have been derailed by this groin injury and was knocked for a loop for about a week from overtraining. Also, I have done a number on two of my toes, that now look like a freakshow.
I'm increasingly convinced that hod exists and is dedicated to keeping me from reaching my goals.
Were you and Brazen extras in 'A Bridge Too Far' ? :P
It looks that way. I'm not giving up yet though.
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
Excellent, but where's the dreadnought angle in that. :unsure:
Quote from: mongers on June 19, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
Excellent, but where's the dreadnought angle in that. :unsure:
If he keeps losing weight, he'll eventually drop a dreadnought's worth.
Quote from: mongers on June 19, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
Excellent, but where's the dreadnought angle in that. :unsure:
Fatbodies have a hard time squeezing into various spots in the engine room.
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 19, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
Excellent, but where's the dreadnought angle in that. :unsure:
Fatbodies have a hard time squeezing into various spots in the engine room.
:thumbsup:
Well done anyway. :)
I did 45 miles today. I refused to do "the hill" more than once (or else it would have been 50 miles and I would be dead). Still, as my goal is to get ready for a 55 mile round trip by Summer's end, I think I will be ready.
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
I did 45 miles today. I refused to do "the hill" more than once (or else it would have been 50 miles and I would be dead). Still, as my goal is to get ready for a 55 mile round trip by Summer's end, I think I will be ready.
:cool:
For myself, still not doing anything of note; need some new motivation/targets. <_<
For anyone interested, my goal by the end of summer is to ride from Laramie to Centennial and back - about 60 miles total (55 out of city), but no chance to chicken out part way through, there is no "there" between here and there.
Quote from: mongers on June 22, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
I did 45 miles today. I refused to do "the hill" more than once (or else it would have been 50 miles and I would be dead). Still, as my goal is to get ready for a 55 mile round trip by Summer's end, I think I will be ready.
:cool:
For myself, still not doing anything of note; need some new motivation/targets. <_<
I like riding weekend mornings. I get to pass all the people in their expensive jerseys when I am wearing my jean shorts.
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 22, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 22, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
I did 45 miles today. I refused to do "the hill" more than once (or else it would have been 50 miles and I would be dead). Still, as my goal is to get ready for a 55 mile round trip by Summer's end, I think I will be ready.
:cool:
For myself, still not doing anything of note; need some new motivation/targets. <_<
I like riding weekend mornings. I get to pass all the people in their expensive jerseys when I am wearing my jean shorts.
http://www.itsnotarace.org/ (http://www.itsnotarace.org/)
Wait. People return to Laramie voluntarily ?!?
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2013, 04:18:22 PM
Wait. People return to Laramie voluntarily ?!?
It took a few years after the devastation you caused, but yes...yes they do.
Another 45 today. A bit tired, as it was 2 days of 10 miles more per day than before, but I was ready to up my distance. Average speed was 17mph, not too bad.
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I've lost weight. I've gone from about 235 to 202 over the last 18 months. Exercise is good, but portion control is even better.
well done.
I am holding steady at the low 250s. I think I am going to have to boost my exercise size now. I am not willing to give up certain things that would take me lower without exercise.
Did about 25 miles of mainly urban cycling this evening, man there are some asshats on the roads today.
Ended up spending too much time chatting, only backup lights on me, so had to race the setting sun home across the conurbation, got in just as it was setting to within a minute or two.
Overall not doing a great deal, possibly do about 400 miles this month, a bit low for me this time of year.
Not doing much in the heat at the moment.
Popped out earlier this evening for a spin on my folder up the valley.
On the way home I got overtaken by a nice young women on a plush roadbike, who stopped for a chat.
I think she probably saw a broad-shouldered guy steaming along on a little bike ( I think they makes you look wider than you are) and thought she'd check me out.
Only to draw level and find out I'm actually a pasty faced, balding late forties guy. :D
At least I got a compliment out of it. :cool:
Noticing a significant improvement in cardio performance since I'm unemployed. Perhaps because I don't have a sleeping deficit now.
Lost 4 kg this last month with minimal effort. Another month like this and I'll be pretty much in my target weight: ~64 kg/141 pounds.
The gym I go to plays club music at full volume. :pinch:
They also have TVs on without the sound. During the election cycle one of them was invariably set to MSNBC. While Al Sharpton is pretty funny regularly, with the sound off he becomes a comic genius. He's like a parody of a black preacher, with over exaggerated broad movements and an over expressive face; especially when he goes off on a rant. He missed his calling, he should have been a silent movie clown.
Now they on HLN with Robin Meade, shown here:
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That's her look of heartfelt sympathy, she also has a smiley look:
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and a serious face that she wears when scores of people die in a tsunami:
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Fortunately HLN rarely covers news more tragic than "Cool cat, kitten narrowly escapes being trapped in refrigerator."
I was thinking of getting into shape, but am currently unsure what shape I wish to be.
Back from vacation - did 20 miles today. My god, a week away from the bike and suddenly 20 miles is a lot...
Quote from: Razgovory on July 09, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
I was thinking of getting into shape, but am currently unsure what shape I wish to be.
Maybe one of these?
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I am a charging rhino.
Quote from: PDH on July 16, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
Back from vacation - did 20 miles today. My god, a week away from the bike and suddenly 20 miles is a lot...
:thumbsup:
Doing very little myself. :(
Having been hit with a sudden heatwave in dear old blighty, I'm acclimatizing myself by doing a bit on the bike each evening and trying to set out a bit earlier each time to build up some tolerance for the heat.
This evening set out just before 6 and did 14 miles on the folder, 86F when I set out, still 83F when I got back an hour later.
Not too bad as not excessively humid, but constant sunshine is an issue, have taken to sprinting across the wide open bit to get to the shaded stretches of the road. :bowler:
Did 50km today, it was maybe too hot, but I feel that every day with clear blue sky in Denmark must be a used for cycling purposes.
Quote from: Liep on July 21, 2013, 07:51:20 AM
Did 50km today, it was maybe too hot, but I feel that every day with clear blue sky in Denmark must be a used for cycling purposes.
:cool:
Heh, I'm almost the opposite, praying for cloudy days and only going out on the bike in the evenings. :)
All told doing very little, typical ride at the moment 20km part off-road shopping trip at 7-8pm lastnight.
Looks like I'll be testing for my next belt in karate next month. :cool:
Did the 5-mile Anniversary Race through the Olympic park yesterday, finishing by crossing the line in the stadium itself, with Chariots of Fire playing. Without doubt my bestest race EVAH.
60km today, I was riding out near Copenhagen Airport and there's a small road just next to the start of the landing strip. Having commercial airliners roar what feels like just a few meters above you while riding is amazing, I can only imagine how awesome the fly over on Champs-Élysées must've been.
I've crossed the line in the London Olympic stadium :cool:
I did the 5 mile Olympic Anniversary run through the Olympic park last Sunday, finishing in the stadium. It was awesome, easily the best race in which I've ever part. I thought I could run and looked quite athletic until I saw the race hotspot and video, though :(
Heading back there today for the Paralympic anniversary games. Jonnie Peacock could hop over here and give me one any day.
Not doing a great deal at the moment, did a bit over 400 miles last month on the various bikes, nothing of interest.
Need some new inspiration. :hmm:
Fly to Laramie and we can bike over the Snowy Range.
Quote from: PDH on August 02, 2013, 07:59:39 PM
Fly to Laramie and we can bike over the Snowy Range.
I have no life insurance policies, so there's no point plotting to kill me. :D
Bloke in lycra on a road bike closely passed me and said "Beep".
I had greatly slowed down to give a family with toddler on bike a wide berth and was just starting to get back to normal pace as he and his similarly clad female friend over took me.
They didn't exactly disappear into the distance as I got back up to pace, indeed I seemed to be gaining on them. I think they clocked this and upped their pace, starting to alternate drafting each other.
Looks like I found myself in a race, anyway this went on for another 2.5 to 3 miles, them never really being able to pull away, before it all got rather ragged on their part and I had to overtake them.
Said "Hi, did you say beep earlier" as I in jeans and t-shirt on the my flat-bar hybrid put some distance between us. :)
Quote from: Caliga on July 21, 2013, 08:14:12 AM
Looks like I'll be testing for my next belt in karate next month. :cool:
Yellow?
Quote from: mongers on August 06, 2013, 03:02:44 PM
Bloke in lycra on a road bike closely passed me and said "Beep".
I had greatly slowed down to give a family with toddler on bike a wide berth and was just starting to get back to normal pace as he and his similarly clad female friend over took me.
They didn't exactly disappear into the distance as I got back up to pace, indeed I seemed to be gaining on them. I think they clocked this and upped their pace, starting to alternate drafting each other.
Looks like I found myself in a race, anyway this went on for another 2.5 to 3 miles, them never really being able to pull away, before it all got rather ragged on their part and I had to overtake them.
Said "Hi, did you say beep earlier" as I in jeans and t-shirt on the my flat-bar hybrid put some distance between us. :)
Good show. :D Even if do I clad myself up in the whole cycling outfit I always try to behave proper in traffic. Slowing and keeping distance to children and old folks, not running over reds, etc.
I would, however, rather die from exhaustion than let a guy in jeans overtake me. :P
I love passing the lycra crowd. Jean shorts, t-shirt, not even clip pedals yet...some take offense and try to race me. I just stay with my own speed. The really good ones I never see again, the others race ahead then slowly come back.
Quote from: PDH on August 07, 2013, 09:05:36 AM
I love passing the lycra crowd. Jean shorts, t-shirt, not even clip pedals yet...some take offense and try to race me. I just stay with my own speed. The really good ones I never see again, the others race ahead then slowly come back.
:cool:
+1.
Just earned my purple belt. :cool:
I did a bit over 40 miles today:
Out 10 miles
Up a 2.5 mile climb, then back to the bottom
Up the climb again,
back about 6 miles then turn around and ride to the base of the climb
turn and ride home.
It was tough, but enough water and a clif bar along the way helped. My goal in 2 weeks is a 55 mile round trip.
Quote from: PDH on August 10, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
I did a bit over 40 miles today:
Out 10 miles
Up a 2.5 mile climb, then back to the bottom
Up the climb again,
back about 6 miles then turn around and ride to the base of the climb
turn and ride home.
It was tough, but enough water and a clif bar along the way helped. My goal in 2 weeks is a 55 mile round trip.
Excellent. :cool:
Though I feel I'm going in the other direction, need to do some longer trips out, maybe when it's cooled down a lot.
Did the same route today as I need to get my legs into longer distance shape. It was harder today.
I had some guy pass me toward the end on a short uphill, he was in lycra but instead of the Tour sponsor jersey (Cofidis et al) shirt he had a local amateur shirt. He was good and blew me out of the water. Still, I had 37 miles under my belt by then, so I was ok with it.
Quote from: PDH on August 11, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
Did the same route today as I need to get my legs into longer distance shape. It was harder today.
I had some guy pass me toward the end on a short uphill, he was in lycra but instead of the Tour sponsor jersey (Cofidis et al) shirt he had a local amateur shirt. He was good and blew me out of the water. Still, I had 37 miles under my belt by then, so I was ok with it.
Sounds good. :cool:
I like the idea of a local shirt, in contrast to the roadies you see with a national or world champion white strip, that crack me, unless of course they actually were Mark Cavendish et al.
edit:
today's route was one I've done a few times and was thinking as I was going around, it really helps 'learning' the route, getting to know what's coming and where to put that extra effort to keep up the pace and the momentum when going over the hills.
I can see it would be a big advance to run a race you've thoroughly reconnoitred before.
So my post- Tour de France fitness experiment finished today; the ideal was to go out every evening on my flat-bard hybrid and try and do a small amount of cycling that would mirror some of the TdF stages ie one day a flat stage, the next a time trial, the third a 'mountain' stage and so on.
On the whole it worked out well, I didn't manage it on 3 days simple because I've had a lot of family stuff going on/visitors and couldn't manage to get out for even half an hour on those days.
The other main issue was the ongoing lack of mountains here, the nearest ones,the Black Mountains, are like 125 miles away and in another country, so I had to make to with using the hillier bits of the forest and downs.
All told I did a little over 700 km in 21 'stages' taking me a bit under 28 hours.
A bonus of the idea was it got me thinking about using different routes and roads to get about on. The next thing to do is work out some proper longer routes, which don't start at my door step, the whole getting in and out of town can be problematic, naturally slowing you down and messing with the times/speed. So when I next try it I'll have ones that start clear of the town and it's junctions or start further a field and I get there by a leisurely warm up ride.
I think I'll have another go at this in the spring before the TdF starts, maybe by that time I'll be using a road bike ? :unsure:
Next Summer I want to ride over the Snowy Range Mountains. They only go up to about 10500 feet from 7500 feet. Care to join me?
Quote from: PDH on August 16, 2013, 07:09:31 PM
Next Summer I want to ride over the Snowy Range Mountains. They only go up to about 10500 feet from 7500 feet. Care to join me?
You Do want to kill me. :mad:
That sound kinda cool, the sort of trip the photos want at all do justice to the experience.
Have to give it a miss this coming years as I'm planning on catching a fair bit of the TdF in summer 14, oddly without a bike to hand. :(
So I was 10 miles outside of town today and the back wheel began to go flat. I made another 2 miles before it was done. Luckily, my pump was broken too, so I started to walk. As I was around a bend in the mountain, there was no cell coverage for the next half hour of walking - but then I phoned a friend for a lift.
The good news: every bike rider stopped to ask if I was ok, even the hot girl in the tight shorts and the bikini top.
The bad news: every single car zoomed by, even the pickup trucks, the truck with a flatbed trailer, and the car that pulled out 100 yards behind me with a bikerack on the back.
At least the world is still in balance.
I am at 178 pounds, 2 shy of the doctor ordered weight of 180. The last 3 pounds are Twinkie pounds, as I have been slamming those down my face hole.
Quote from: PDH on August 17, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
So I was 10 miles outside of town today and the back wheel began to go flat. I made another 2 miles before it was done. Luckily, my pump was broken too, so I started to walk. As I was around a bend in the mountain, there was no cell coverage for the next half hour of walking - but then I phoned a friend for a lift.
The good news: every bike rider stopped to ask if I was ok, even the hot girl in the tight shorts and the bikini top.
The bad news: every single car zoomed by, even the pickup trucks, the truck with a flatbed trailer, and the car that pulled out 100 yards behind me with a bikerack on the back.
At least the world is still in balance.
CCR would approve. :D
The version of that I get around here are fine young fillies, on horse back that is; carefully passed a couple on some large skittish hunters going up a hill a few days ago and purely by chance passed them again an hour later in a nearby bit of the forest.
Nice looking, pleasant to chat with, fit young horsewomen. :cool:
I'm down to 210 from 246lbs. Or, 95kg from 111kg. :)
Is Anger bitching about having to gain weight ?!??
How tall is he that under 180 is considered unhealthy? :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 18, 2013, 03:50:23 AM
How tall is he that under 180 is considered unhealthy? :hmm:
Probably depends on how much metal he has in his crushed limbs.
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2013, 10:20:21 PM
Is Anger bitching about having to gain weight ?!??
Hey that can be hard. I've been lifting for a year but can't gain...probably because I just can't eat enough. Plus being on an elderly Ensure diet isn't good for weight gain. :P
4000 calories a day is nuts. I just can't do that. Stuffing a couple more eggs in or another hamburger is sometimes like torture.
This is the hardest thing I've had to deal with, and it makes the process of losing the weight I did seem like easy pickings by comparison.
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2013, 10:20:21 PM
Is Anger bitching about having to gain weight ?!??
Who's bitching?
Also, I'm 6 feet.
According to everybody's favorite metric, BMI, 6 feet tall and 180 lbs rates 24.4, just barely under the "overweight" category. To classify as "underweight" you'd need to be around 135. :hmm:
Bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 18, 2013, 05:51:12 AM
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2013, 10:20:21 PM
Is Anger bitching about having to gain weight ?!??
Hey that can be hard. I've been lifting for a year but can't gain...probably because I just can't eat enough. Plus being on an elderly Ensure diet isn't good for weight gain. :P
4000 calories a day is nuts. I just can't do that. Stuffing a couple more eggs in or another hamburger is sometimes like torture.
This is the hardest thing I've had to deal with, and it makes the process of losing the weight I did seem like easy pickings by comparison.
my oldest son is going through the same struggle. He is having a hard time eating enough to gain - or even maintain weight. He is getting a lot stronger but he has only gained about 10 - 15 pounds over the last few months. On the bright side he is ripped but he could use about another 30 lbs.
Tell him to stop training so hard and the weight will come naturally. -_-
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 19, 2013, 01:00:27 PM
Tell him to stop training so hard and the weight will come naturally. -_-
QFsortofT.
I'm down one more belt hole, but I'm still the same weight. Grrr. <_<
A whole year, I've been trying to gain some muscle but it seems like it just won't work. I lift until I'm sore. Mrs. MIM has to give me massages a couple times a week. I eat a lot of protein. She says I look stronger but I just don't see it. It's frustrating.
OTOH: The 40 pounds I lost last year have not come back at all. It's like my body simply wants to fade away.
I guess I'm what they call a hard gainer. Or an ectomorph. If I did get ripped, I'd look a lot more like Bruce Lee than Arnold.
On the subject of weight gain for strength building, in Starting Strength Mark Rippetoe calls for drinking whole milk, and lots of it. I have the opposite problem, so I have no first-hand experience. :P
I have been on the Starting Strength program for about two weeks now, and I have been seeing similar results as MIM: increasing lifts, changing body measurements, basically flat weight (2-3 lb fluctuations with no clear trend). From what I have read, for me that is expected. I'm still a novice and won't start dropping weight until my body ramps up more. Plus, I need to clean up my diet. :P
My work (3x5) weights as of Monday:
Squat: 135 lbs
Press: 75 lbs
Bench: 105 lbs
Deadlift: 215 lbs
Power clean: not attempted (I start those next week)
Vitals as of Monday morning:
Weight: 297.8
BP: 144/88 (on meds)
My ribs hurt.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2013, 10:57:33 AM
My ribs hurt.
:(
Similar here, after crashing a couple of weeks back, it still hurts when I sneeze or blow my nose.
Ended up doing a little under 500 miles cycling this month, a bit under 300 miles on the main bike before its/my prangette and 100 miles on two of the other bikes.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 25, 2013, 05:55:09 AM
I'm down one more belt hole, but I'm still the same weight. Grrr. <_<
A whole year, I've been trying to gain some muscle but it seems like it just won't work. I lift until I'm sore. Mrs. MIM has to give me massages a couple times a week. I eat a lot of protein. She says I look stronger but I just don't see it. It's frustrating.
OTOH: The 40 pounds I lost last year have not come back at all. It's like my body simply wants to fade away.
I guess I'm what they call a hard gainer. Or an ectomorph. If I did get ripped, I'd look a lot more like Bruce Lee than Arnold.
I've always been a small fry. I started lifting seriously this past April and I've only gained about seven pounds, doing something similar to the Starting Strength program vM is talking about. I went from 124 to 131, weighing myself religiously every day. Lately I've been slacking and I'm down to 129 :bleeding:
The great thing is I'm a lot stronger. A lady friend of mine said she can see the difference, so I'm making progress, even if it's really slowly. I pretty much choke down at least four meals a day and a couple protein shakes, but it feels like a fucking job sometimes.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 25, 2013, 05:55:09 AM
I'm down one more belt hole, but I'm still the same weight. Grrr. <_<
A whole year, I've been trying to gain some muscle but it seems like it just won't work. I lift until I'm sore. Mrs. MIM has to give me massages a couple times a week. I eat a lot of protein. She says I look stronger but I just don't see it. It's frustrating.
OTOH: The 40 pounds I lost last year have not come back at all. It's like my body simply wants to fade away.
I guess I'm what they call a hard gainer. Or an ectomorph. If I did get ripped, I'd look a lot more like Bruce Lee than Arnold.
I've always been a small fry. I started lifting seriously this past April and I've only gained about seven pounds, doing something similar to the Starting Strength program vM is talking about. I went from 124 to 131 (I'm 5'7"), weighing myself religiously every day. Lately I've been slacking and I'm down to 129 :bleeding:
The great thing is I'm a lot stronger. A lady friend of mine said she can see the difference, so I'm making progress, even if it's really slowly. I pretty much choke down four meals a day and a couple protein shakes, but it feels like a fucking job sometimes.
I calculate that I did more than 2500 miles this summer (May-August) on the bike. This will slow down with teaching, but oh well. I need to get the legs in shape for next year when Mongers comes to Laramie so we can bike over the Snowy Range.
Quote from: PDH on September 01, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
I calculate that I did more than 2500 miles this summer (May-August) on the bike. This will slow down with teaching, but oh well. I need to get the legs in shape for next year when Mongers comes to Laramie so we can bike over the Snowy Range.
:D
Well done, more than I did this summer. :cool:
Did my end of the Summer marathon this morning. Laramie to Centennial and back. 39 miles or so each way, several climbs in the rolling hills and a total climb at the halfway point of 900 feet. Had a headwind for the last 5 miles before turn around - that was tough. I rested at the Friendly Store for a half hour, then rode that now tail-wind back.
All in all a perfect ride.
Quote from: PDH on September 02, 2013, 01:52:29 PM
Did my end of the Summer marathon this morning. Laramie to Centennial and back. 39 miles or so each way, several climbs in the rolling hills and a total climb at the halfway point of 900 feet. Had a headwind for the last 5 miles before turn around - that was tough. I rested at the Friendly Store for a half hour, then rode that now tail-wind back.
All in all a perfect ride.
Impressive. :cool:
You've set me a challenge, though even if I beat 80 miles in one go, I'd still be short of a few thousand feet here and there. :whistle:
You have to average 17-18 mph too...
Quote from: PDH on September 02, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
You have to average 17-18 mph too...
I managed to average 19.2 the other day, well it was for a while, .. actually only for about 25 minutes and that was a Real Effort. :blush:
Well, the second 39 miles I had a fair bit of downhill (two 500 foot climbs from a river valley) with a 10mph tailwind :)
While you two are off racing bikes, Mono and I can have a competition to see who can walk farther on a treadmill without breaking down.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 02, 2013, 09:24:12 PM
While you two are off racing bikes, Mono and I can have a competition to see who can walk farther on a treadmill without breaking down.
You're talking about life, right ? :unsure:
I signed up for the Hermitage Run which is a 13.3km run north of Copenhagen. I haven't really run since I played football in 8th grade and training running again is tough work. I can manage about 8km now (after a month of training) and there's a month to go, it'll be close. :P
Quote from: Liep on September 03, 2013, 11:25:14 AM
I signed up for the Hermitage Run which is a 13.3km run north of Copenhagen. I haven't really run since I played football in 8th grade and training running again is tough work. I can manage about 8km now (after a month of training) and there's a month to go, it'll be close. :P
You got it...the general rule is you can add a mile a week (1.6 km). Just don't don't skip training days.
Got my black gi in karate today. :cool: LOL am I: ninja!
Quote from: Caliga on September 07, 2013, 11:43:39 AM
Got my black gi in karate today. :cool: LOL am I: ninja!
Gun beat ninja.
MAH CHAHNESE STARS
Quote from: Caliga on September 07, 2013, 11:43:39 AM
Got my black gi in karate today. :cool: LOL am I: ninja!
:cool:
Congratulations.
Me, not doing a great deal, had a cold yesterday and now getting over the effects, this afternoon the weakness is going and feelings of strength are returning to the limbs.
Might be up to something by the evening, but it's now pouring outside and temperatures down in the 50s.
Annoying as I need to build myself something suitable for a bit of off-roading and I want to get on with it.
Finally starting to hit my stride, as the season is almost over <_<
Big race in the hills coming up next week and that'll be all for 2013.
This time I really must keep training throughout the winter. :mad:
Mal. Since Mongers is wimping out, you need to come to Laramie next year. You can lead me over the Snowy Range. (don't worry, it only goes up to 10500 feet - 3220 meters)
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Mal. Since Mongers is wimping out, you need to come to Laramie next year. You can lead me over the Snowy Range. (don't worry, it only goes up to 10500 feet - 3220 meters)
It looks wonderful, and tempting as I've only been up to 2650 meters. And I do need a new challenge next year.
However, definitely not enough pennies to fly to Wyoming for a cycling trip. :(
Quote from: mongers on September 08, 2013, 09:48:07 AM
:cool:
Congratulations.
Along with getting it I officially started learning roundhouse kicks yesterday. Oof, harder than you would think.
Quote from: Maladict on September 08, 2013, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Mal. Since Mongers is wimping out, you need to come to Laramie next year. You can lead me over the Snowy Range. (don't worry, it only goes up to 10500 feet - 3220 meters)
It looks wonderful, and tempting as I've only been up to 2650 meters. And I do need a new challenge next year.
However, definitely not enough pennies to fly to Wyoming for a cycling trip. :(
Well then. Next year I will have to try it alone.
Seeing as how the climb proper starts about about 2400 meters...I might be AWOL for a few days after I try it.
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Quote from: Maladict on September 08, 2013, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Mal. Since Mongers is wimping out, you need to come to Laramie next year. You can lead me over the Snowy Range. (don't worry, it only goes up to 10500 feet - 3220 meters)
It looks wonderful, and tempting as I've only been up to 2650 meters. And I do need a new challenge next year.
However, definitely not enough pennies to fly to Wyoming for a cycling trip. :(
Well then. Next year I will have to try it alone.
Seeing as how the climb proper starts about about 2400 meters...I might be AWOL for a few days after I try it.
:(
Somewhat seriously I think it would take the best part of a couple of seasons to get used to using a road bike, putting in the necessary mileage and then being able to tackle a challenge like that. :wimp:
So towards the end of 2016, with say 5,000-6,000 miles on a road bike under my belt.
Diet is a four letter word. <_<
So hungry right now.
My doctor told me to stop running. I was so frustrated I went for a run.
Quote from: Brazen on September 09, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
My doctor told me to stop running. I was so frustrated I went for a run.
:(
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Well then. Next year I will have to try it alone.
Seeing as how the climb proper starts about about 2400 meters...I might be AWOL for a few days after I try it.
What kind of grade are we talking about?
Quote from: Brazen on September 09, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
My doctor told me to stop running. I was so frustrated I went for a run.
:( I dread the day I get that word.
Time to start biking?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2013, 04:44:53 AM
Diet is a four letter word. <_<
So hungry right now.
Agreed--exercise instead. :)
Quote from: alfred russel on September 09, 2013, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: Brazen on September 09, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
My doctor told me to stop running. I was so frustrated I went for a run.
:( I dread the day I get that word.
Time to start biking?
Good grief, steady on chap. :bowler:
Quote from: Maladict on September 09, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
Quote from: PDH on September 08, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Well then. Next year I will have to try it alone.
Seeing as how the climb proper starts about about 2400 meters...I might be AWOL for a few days after I try it.
What kind of grade are we talking about?
It averages about 5-6%
http://cyclepass.com/t_pwy_Snowy_Range.html
Quote from: PDH on September 09, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
It averages about 5-6%
http://cyclepass.com/t_pwy_Snowy_Range.html
5-6% over 10 miles, nice.
If you hit it hard you can really ruin yourself :cool:
But if it's a return trip you'd better not, though.
Well, I got down to 250 but after a summer of good living I went back up to 268. After a couple of weeks of less good living and some light running I am back down to 259. I would really lke to get back to 240 but I think that is going to be a lot more work than I first anticipated. And my dream goal of getting back to 220 seems just that.
Started using Myfitnesspal last week. It is cool. Am down from Completely Disgusting to Slightly Less Disgusting, but Still Disgusting.
My numbers are similar to CC and I'm only 6'1". :(
Today I cycled/pushed my bike 50km as the crow flies (no wait, more like 55 or so considering I repeated the first 5). Actually a lot more considering how bloody mountainous much of it was and the twistiness of the roads. :showoff:
The ultimate plan was to ride my bike from my old house to my new, I predicted I would probally need to stop where I did and continue (the much easier part) another time.
On the negative side though- carbon monoxide :yuk: Had to share the roads with lots of cars and lorries. The worst part was a 3km long tunnel which there was no other alternative than to travel through. It had only two rest points along the way and it was freaking scary, there wasn't a hard shoulder at all and lots of lorries were passing by. I was filthy from the place.
I weighed myself the other day and I seem to have lost weight, I'm now down to 81. I guess my half joking prediction about Tokyo=healthier me due to all the stairs was right.
The lack of beer and meat (pay day is far away and I've been too busy for much of the former, still no fridge yet for the latter...) must have helped.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2013, 08:07:25 PM
My numbers are similar to CC and I'm only 6'1". :(
I'm worse if it makes you feel better. Put on a lot of weight the last year and a half.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 09, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
Started using Myfitnesspal last week. It is cool. Am down from Completely Disgusting to Slightly Less Disgusting, but Still Disgusting.
:thumbsup: MFP is my the best online fitness tool I've used.
The doctor told me to stop running. I told him to refer me to a physio so I can, instead, do exercises that will keep me moving longer. I've also had gait assessment and I'm getting fitted for new shoes after payday.
There are few problems in life that can't be solved with new shoes.
Just did my first 10+ km run in about 13 years. It felt really fucking awesome.
Soon after this post Liep was found with his aorta exploded from the stress. :(
he was mourned by many.
Quote from: Brazen on September 24, 2013, 08:43:03 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 09, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
Started using Myfitnesspal last week. It is cool. Am down from Completely Disgusting to Slightly Less Disgusting, but Still Disgusting.
:thumbsup: MFP is my the best online fitness tool I've used.
The doctor told me to stop running. I told him to refer me to a physio so I can, instead, do exercises that will keep me moving longer. I've also had gait assessment and I'm getting fitted for new shoes after payday.
There are few problems in life that can't be solved with new shoes.
:hmm:
Down to 255. Lungs have been acting up so less excercise. But also less food. This kind of weight loss I dont want. Less energy, less strength etc. God getting old sucks.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 25, 2013, 02:47:01 PM
Down to 255. Lungs have been acting up so less excercise. But also less food. This kind of weight loss I dont want. Less energy, less strength etc. God getting old sucks.
Tell me about it, but then again we just have to wise up and choose our 'battles' carefully. :)
edit:myself, not doing a great till, but luck to still be able to ride a bike in some nice weather.
Quote from: mongers on September 25, 2013, 02:49:16 PM
Tell me about it, but then again we just have to wise up and choose our 'battles' carefully. :)
I hear ya brother
CdM using underhand tactics to disrupt my fitness regime. <_<
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24261861 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24261861)
Quit smoking a couple of days ago. I'm really tired of being in extremely poor cardiovascular health. Oddly, I think my lungs and heart feel shittier right now than they do after a half a pack.
Don't congratulate me, I'm still as stuck to the Tar Baby as before, just not in inhaled form.
I'm sort of/kind of being serious about strength exercises again. Trying to get enough protein, which is hard. The shameful omission in my exercise routine is situps. I find them so Goddamned tedious, not to mention as long as I've got this ten pound belt adding muscle just makes me look fatter.
Are you using snuff? That's worse than smoking. Teenagers get cancer from that shit.
Err, I'm thinking of chewing tobacco. Not sure what the risk for snuff is.
I never got cancer.
Ultimately, I wanna quit that too. Will they still prescribe sedatives and painkillers for nicotine withdrawal?
Quote from: Ideologue on September 26, 2013, 09:15:26 PM
Quit smoking a couple of days ago. I'm really tired of being in extremely poor cardiovascular health. Oddly, I think my lungs and heart feel shittier right now than they do after a half a pack.
Don't congratulate me, I'm still as stuck to the Tar Baby as before, just not in inhaled form.
I'm sort of/kind of being serious about strength exercises again. Trying to get enough protein, which is hard. The shameful omission in my exercise routine is situps. I find them so Goddamned tedious, not to mention as long as I've got this ten pound belt adding muscle just makes me look fatter.
Ide, congrats on quitting smoking.
If you want to have better cardiovascular health, I think the best way is cardio exercises. That also may be a better avenue for training for someone that is struggling to get protein (exercises to build lots of muscle won't build lots of muscle without protein) and is also a good way to drop weight.
This is just my personal preference: I don't do situps. I hate them. There are alternative core exercises--situps aren't indispensable.
Quote from: ARIde, congrats on quitting smoking.
Yes, droll.
Anyway, I try to do jumping jacks every now and again.
Eventually I'm going to start running again, but I kind of want to wait for the healing to be underway in earnest so I don't look like an asshole in public (any more than usual).
Didn't get a London Marathon place. Thank fuck for that.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 03:59:15 AM
Quote from: ARIde, congrats on quitting smoking.
Anyway, I try to do jumping jacks every now and again.
Eventually I'm going to start running again, but I kind of want to wait for the healing to be underway in earnest so I don't look like an asshole in public (any more than usual).
I've said both of these things before, but:
I don't know that jumping jacks are a good exercise routine post middle school gym class.
You won't look like an asshole for being bad at running. I guess when you start you will run slow and for short distances. But who will know? Someone running slow may be running a lot of miles--they don't look bad. And even if you run short distances, if you run for more than 1 minute, who is going to watch you that long? And if they do, maybe you are running intervals anyway.
I don't know if lungs actually heal in a way that improves running ability, but unfortunately you are going to be bad at running when you first start. The lung thing seems like more of an excuse to not run.
Jumping jacks aren't bad. They tend to be more intense than jogging for the duration you're doing them and they stretch muscles that jogging doesn't. That said, doing a couple minutes of exercise a day isn't going to do much.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 27, 2013, 10:10:02 AM
Jumping jacks aren't bad. They tend to be more intense than jogging for the duration you're doing them and they stretch muscles that jogging doesn't. That said, doing a couple minutes of exercise a day isn't going to do much.
Just back from doing 3 hours on the bike. :)
Yeah, I sit on my ass for three hours at a time too, M.
Quote from: alfred russel on September 27, 2013, 10:02:21 AMI don't know if lungs actually heal in a way that improves running ability, but unfortunately you are going to be bad at running when you first start. The lung thing seems like more of an excuse to not run.
I think improved respiratory function is one of the big selling points of quitting smoking.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 27, 2013, 10:02:21 AMI don't know if lungs actually heal in a way that improves running ability, but unfortunately you are going to be bad at running when you first start. The lung thing seems like more of an excuse to not run.
I think improved respiratory function is one of the big selling points of quitting smoking.
Just do it, suck in the pain (if any), and take AR's subsequent advice. :)
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 27, 2013, 10:02:21 AMI don't know if lungs actually heal in a way that improves running ability, but unfortunately you are going to be bad at running when you first start. The lung thing seems like more of an excuse to not run.
I think improved respiratory function is one of the big selling points of quitting smoking.
Yeah, but if you dont use them you wont get much improvement. Lets put it this way, if I can run you can probably run too.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 27, 2013, 10:02:21 AMI don't know if lungs actually heal in a way that improves running ability, but unfortunately you are going to be bad at running when you first start. The lung thing seems like more of an excuse to not run.
I think improved respiratory function is one of the big selling points of quitting smoking.
I doubt anyone is going to look at smoker you and say, "wow he can only run for 3 minutes, what an asshole", but then look at the "healed" you with the ability to run for 3 minutes 30 seconds and think you are cool.
On the other hand, someone who smokes and runs semi regularly will be able to run you into the ground, healed you or damaged you.
If you aren't just making an excuse not to run, I think you seriously misjudge what other people think. I don't hear any other runners laugh or in any way put down someone just starting out and trying to do a walk and run for a short distance. As a group, I think runners are basically universally supportive of beginning runners who previously were mostly sedentary.
That can't be true. If everybody ran, they wouldn't be special, and their advantages would dissipate while the work required remained the same. :hmm:
:P
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
That can't be true. If everybody ran, they wouldn't be special, and their advantages would dissipate while the work required remained the same. :hmm:
:P
If everybody ran, health care would probably be cheaper. Also, women would be skinnier. You should be all over that. :P
I've been told I need to find a winter sport so I'm not totally miserable when it gets cold and snowy up here. I fell off a chairlift and broke my leg as a kid the one time my parents tried to take us downhill skiing. :Embarrass: So I'm ruling that out. Cross-country skiing seems like good exercise, though. And I'd like to try snow-shoeing some time. Also might be fun to try ice-skating again for the first time in probably 10 years, but there's usually too many children at a given time to do it alone and not feel awkward, I think.
Maybe you should stop making excuses to run, CM.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 27, 2013, 07:12:29 PM
Maybe you should stop making excuses to run, CM.
^_^ Put some Skoal in your lip and some New Balances on your feet.
Really, though, I feel you. :console: I'd like to drop 5-10 pounds too, and your take on sit-ups is a great excuse not to do them either. :)
For my own fitness update, I'm tentatively planning to try running a sub 4 hour marathon next spring. "Tentatively" because I'm not going to commit until I'm comfortably running 15 miles at a sub 9 min/mile pace (I'm at 11 now).
This will undoubtedly join a growing list of running goals I've set and failed to achieve.
Cross Country is fun Mihali.
I'm planning on trying out skijoring this winter for me and my dog so she keeps getting exercise, well that on top of going to gym.
Did 16km mountain biking today, goddamn that is tough work. Fun though.
Quote from: katmai on September 28, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
I'm planning on trying out skijoring this winter for me and my dog
:D That looks phenomenal.
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Probably best not attempted with cats though.
Man, my cats couldn't even avoid walking through where I dropped a light bulb today.* I'm not trusting them to avoid dangerous ice.
*I yelled at one to stay away. This scared her, so she ran through it. Miracuously, she's fine. :rolleyes:
I've entered a charity 5K race for Movember. I will be sporting a fake moustache.
Managed a little over 450miles on the bikes last month, I think the weather and the mountain of bike repairs* I need to do will happer me this month.
* one out of four, and two need complete rebuilds. <_<
Today's crossfit workout was
As many rounds as possible for 10 minutes.
100 single unders
10 squats
10 pushups
10 burpees.
got to 4 and half rounds before collapsing from exhaustion. Good use of 10 minutes. :showoff:
What's a single under? Is it better than a married under?
What's a burpee? Do you pound down a Big Gulp and then exhale?
Quote from: Brazen on October 01, 2013, 08:59:49 AM
What's a single under? Is it better than a married under?
Jumping rope, with the rope only going under your feet once each jump. More the default by contrast to the double under, where the rope goes under your feet twice with teach jump.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 01, 2013, 09:10:49 AM
What's a burpee? Do you pound down a Big Gulp and then exhale?
Standing up -> squat -> kick to pushup position -> return to squat position -> stand up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burpee_(exercise)
Quote from: ulmont on October 01, 2013, 09:15:02 AM
Quote from: Brazen on October 01, 2013, 08:59:49 AM
What's a single under? Is it better than a married under?
Jumping rope, with the rope only going under your feet once each jump. More the default by contrast to the double under, where the rope goes under your feet twice with teach jump.
That doesn't seem physically possible.
Anyway, why does my body seem to top out at around 40 push ups? I mean, I was doing 41, then took a day off--which usually helps--and--one day!--and I didn't have anything left at 37. I think I might still be not getting enough protein. Ever since I became a vegetarian, I've been in failing health. Unfortunately, I can't scientifically blame it on that, because I can't control for aging. <_<
Maybe I should try that Paul Ryan Murder Gauntlet that ulmont's doing. Dude went to Duke or whatever; he shouldn't be able to kick my ass too.
On a slightly related note, why are so many of the stockers at Wal-Mart fat? It's a physical job, for Christ's sake, there's no ready excuse (not even, really, the old standby of "metabolism"). Is it their underdeveloped central nervous systems? Is it because their hours were cut due to Obamacare?
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 04:32:25 AM
Anyway, why the fuck does my body seem to top out at around 40 push ups? I mean, I was doing 41, then took a day off--which usually helps--and--one day!--and I didn't have anything left at 37.
When you reach your limit, move your feet apart to reduce the resistance to finish your target amount, which will make upping your"proper" push-up total easier next time you try.
Seems reasonable. Will do. :)
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 04:32:25 AM
Ever since I became a vegetarian, I've been in failing health. Unfortunately, I can't scientifically blame it on that, because I can't control for aging. <_<
:o
Eat lots of steak and eggs, sauteed in real butter, with some vegetables on the side as a condiment and you'll feel and function much better. Try it for a month and report back on what an awesome square-jawed specimen of strapping manhood you've become.
Vegetarian dudes get bitch tits and feel miserable all the time.
Quote from: Legbiter on October 03, 2013, 05:15:34 PM
:o
Eat lots of steak and eggs, sauteed in real butter, with some vegetables on the side as a condiment and you'll feel and function much better. Try it for a month and report back on what an awesome square-jawed specimen of strapping manhood you've become.
Vegetarian dudes get bitch tits and feel miserable all the time.
Legbiter, vegetarian guys that are very careful about their diet can be quite fit. I am confident Ide is taking the right steps. For example, I remember he stepped up his chocolate chip cookie consumption at Subway when he realized his protein intake might be low.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 03, 2013, 05:28:04 PMLegbiter, vegetarian guys that are very careful about their diet can be quite fit. I am confident Ide is taking the right steps. For example, I remember he stepped up his chocolate chip cookie consumption at Subway when he realized his protein intake might be low.
Most vegetarian guys are either fat (shovel a pound of pasta in your face along with a Big Gulp and you're still a model vegetarian) or skinny fat wastrels who look like they would blow over in a stiff gale.
More importantly, Ide himself tells us his health is failing and guesses it's his age catching up to him. Er, Ide is a man in his 30's, not his late 60's. he should be enjoying his peak physical years now and for another decade at least, not feeling depressed spooning up fagass bean curds and shit.
So I suggest a little n = 1 experiment for a month where he eats ad libidum of fatty meat (bacon, steaks in all guises, fish, fowl, etc) with vegetables, fruits and nuts and cuts out all grains, industrial seed oils, HFCS and sugar. If he does that for a month I'm certain Ide will feel and function 100 times better than now. And if he dosen't like it, well the Cheerios and soy "meat" will still be there in the middles aisles when the month's up.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 04:32:25 AM
That doesn't seem physically possible.
Anyway, why does my body seem to top out at around 40 push ups? I mean, I was doing 41, then took a day off--which usually helps--and--one day!--and I didn't have anything left at 37. I think I might still be not getting enough protein. Ever since I became a vegetarian, I've been in failing health. Unfortunately, I can't scientifically blame it on that, because I can't control for aging. <_<
Maybe I should try that Paul Ryan Murder Gauntlet that ulmont's doing. Dude went to Duke or whatever; he shouldn't be able to kick my ass too.
On a slightly related note, why are so many of the stockers at Wal-Mart fat? It's a physical job, for Christ's sake, there's no ready excuse (not even, really, the old standby of "metabolism"). Is it their underdeveloped central nervous systems? Is it because their hours were cut due to Obamacare?
Ide, to respond seriously, without knowing your full routine, I suspect you aren't exercising a lot/putting a lot of emphasis on pushups. Anytime you focus on one exercise you will reach a point of diminishing returns.
Also, just by their nature, pushups aren't created equal. Depending on hand placement, foot placement, speed, etc., 37 pushups may equal or exceed 41.
I suspect that some Wal Mart workers are obese because they don't get enough exercise. Like doing 40 pushups and a few jumping jacks, stocking the shelves at Wal Mart isn't very much high intensity work if that is all you do.
I get the feeling I won't being doing a lot of exercise this month; finally got rid of today's back/neck pain, I suspect because not being doing a lot of exercise. :hmm:
Actually, by failing health I really just mean losing my hair, and also the former pack-a-day habit catching up to me hard around age 29.
In any event, I've decided to up protein to 80g a day and I DO OTHER STUFF THAN PUSH-UPS AL.
I sit on my throne.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
Actually, by failing health I really just mean losing my hair, and also the former pack-a-day habit catching up to me hard around age 29.
In any event, I've decided to up protein to 80g a day and I DO OTHER STUFF THAN PUSH-UPS AL.
Ide, it would be helpful to understand what your exercise routine is in order to answer the question. You've posted about doing one set of pushups a day, possibly to be increased, and jumping jacks.
OK, this is what I did today:
N.B. all arm stuff means that much for each arm, so "12" means 12 right, 12 left.
One set 37 pushups (should be 40, but whatever I guess).
One set 35 pushups.
One set 60 situps (I'm back on that horse, gains will be quick until I'm doing multiple sets of 120).
Two sets 12 X 30lbs. arm curls (might do another in a minute).
One set 20 X 15 lbs arm curls.
One set 8 X 30 lbs. robot arm (or whatever it's called when you move your forearm from your side to beneath your chin, parallel to your body).
One set 12 X 30 lbs. lift shit from your collarbone to maximum extension.
One set 20 X 15 lbs. Shoryukens (may not be actual technical term, sort of like an uppercut).
One set 40 X 30 lbs. tricep lifts.
One set 10 X 15 lbs. lifting from behind my back (I thought I saw somebody do it in a movie once; this may be useless).
One set 60 compressions of those little handheld things that exercise your forearm muscles.
One set 60 jumping jacks.
Two sets running up the broken escalator at work.
But the central stuff are pushups, situps, and bicep curls, with tricep stuff thrown in when I feel like it.
I want a bench and maybe 200lbs. of weight for Christmas. I think that'd be a good benching goal. :) (Or maybe I can do it right now, I have no idea.)
Ide, a guideline I use is that any of the weight type exercises should be done in 4 sets of about 12-15, with 45 seconds of rest between sets, so that at the end you are challenged a bit.
I counted 8 sets with weights (excluding sit ups, push ups, jumping jacks, and hand exercises). It seems you have a lot of variety but not a lot of sets. Maybe do more sets? I'm also not sure where you got the routine from.
Sine push ups seem to be your measuring stick, I think you should do more than 2 sets. However, I would think that with this routine, and proper rest and diet, you should be able to do more than 40 pushups (unless you just started). Something seems off.
Btw, if you try to bench 200 now, I suggest you have a very strong and reliable spotter. :P
:(
To be honest, today was more active than usual. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
OK, this is what I did today:
N.B. all arm stuff means that much for each arm, so "12" means 12 right, 12 left.
One set 37 pushups (should be 40, but whatever I guess).
One set 35 pushups.
One set 60 situps (I'm back on that horse, gains will be quick until I'm doing multiple sets of 120).
Two sets 12 X 30lbs. arm curls (might do another in a minute).
One set 20 X 15 lbs arm curls.
One set 8 X 30 lbs. robot arm (or whatever it's called when you move your forearm from your side to beneath your chin, parallel to your body).
One set 12 X 30 lbs. lift shit from your collarbone to maximum extension.
One set 20 X 15 lbs. Shoryukens (may not be actual technical term, sort of like an uppercut).
One set 40 X 30 lbs. tricep lifts.
One set 10 X 15 lbs. lifting from behind my back (I thought I saw somebody do it in a movie once; this may be useless).
One set 60 compressions of those little handheld things that exercise your forearm muscles.
One set 60 jumping jacks.
Two sets running up the broken escalator at work.
But the central stuff are pushups, situps, and bicep curls, with tricep stuff thrown in when I feel like it.
I want a bench and maybe 200lbs. of weight for Christmas. I think that'd be a good benching goal. :) (Or maybe I can do it right now, I have no idea.)
Needs some aerobic.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 08:14:39 PM
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I don't see why you are frowning.
The thing about exercise--unless you have a medical condition, you can achieve a lot. You can certainly do more than 40 pushups. If you aren't improving, it is just about figuring out why.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 03, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Btw, if you try to bench 200 now, I suggest you have a very strong and reliable spotter. :P
I'd suggest he try it on a machine first.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
I want a bench and maybe 200lbs. of weight for Christmas. I think that'd be a good benching goal. :) (Or maybe I can do it right now, I have no idea.)
Unless you are a small and a natural powerlifter, bench pressing 200 pounds, by Christmas, when you aren't even able to curl 45-50 pounders is quite a stretch. It can takes months, even years, of progressive overload, bit by bit, to reach 200 pounds on a bench when you aren't used to physical workout. Hell, I have been training for years and I am finally reach a good-looking physique this year, and I still haven't reached 200 pounds on the bench, yet.
You have way too many biceps exercises. You shouldn't be 'throwing in' triceps exercises, you should put a good balance of both. About two-thirds of the size of an arm are in fact composed of triceps muscles, and bench presses also use a lot of these as well, so I would balance biceps exercises with good triceps exercises (dips, skull crushers, pushdowns, etc.). Also, compounds, compounds, compounds.
And listen to AR, he's right. Stick with the basics : 3-4 days of working out per weeks, two body parts per day, with rest days in-between.
45-50 pounds for a one-handed curl sounds like a LOT more difficult goal to reach than benching 20-25lbs. over my weight. Am I wrong? :unsure:
Cleaned the bike and set it up indoors. 2013 is over :(
Quote from: Maladict on October 04, 2013, 05:47:39 AM
Cleaned the bike and set it up indoors. 2013 is over :(
:cry:
What about just getting yourself a real hack of a bike, one you could leave outside, so you could do bit here and there if there's a weather break?
Quote from: mongers on October 04, 2013, 07:31:33 AM
:cry:
What about just getting yourself a real hack of a bike, one you could leave outside, so you could do bit here and there if there's a weather break?
The weather is still quite nice actually.
It's just getting dark too early and I usually don't have time for cycling in the weekends.
Quote from: Maladict on October 04, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: mongers on October 04, 2013, 07:31:33 AM
:cry:
What about just getting yourself a real hack of a bike, one you could leave outside, so you could do bit here and there if there's a weather break?
The weather is still quite nice actually.
It's just getting dark too early and I usually don't have time for cycling in the weekends.
Yeah, dark evenings are an issue, I'm gonna have to start getting used to returning home in the dark from next week certainly. :hmm:
Quote from: Ideologue on October 03, 2013, 04:32:25 AM
Maybe I should try that Paul Ryan Murder Gauntlet that ulmont's doing. Dude went to Duke or whatever; he shouldn't be able to kick my ass too.
Forgot about this post. You're confusing me with someone else; (1) I went to Georgia Tech and Georgia State, and (2) I'm doing something more like Starting Strength.
If it helps, I'm sure I could kick your ass regardless. ;)
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 05:14:36 AM
45-50 pounds for a one-handed curl sounds like a LOT more difficult goal to reach than benching 20-25lbs. over my weight. Am I wrong? :unsure:
Yes. I have doubts you can bench 100 pounds. 200 is a big number.
If I can do A pushup,
I should be able to bench 100.
I think you should try it. Report back on the results. Maybe start with 150 though, just to be safe. The spotter thing is probably over cautious though.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
If I can do A pushup,
I should be able to bench 100.
I guess you weight 175-180? You aren't lifting a lot of your weight when you do a push up, and they are very different movements. You have trained to do pushups, but not a bench press.
Being able to do ~40 pushups, there is a decent chance you can get up 100. I think you have no chance to get up 150 (which is a real accomplishment, imo).
Quote from: alfred russel on October 04, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
If I can do A pushup,
I should be able to bench 100.
I guess you weight 175-180? You aren't lifting a lot of your weight when you do a push up, and they are very different movements. You have trained to do pushups, but not a bench press.
Being able to do ~40 pushups, there is a decent chance you can get up 100. I think you have no chance to get up 150 (which is a real accomplishment, imo).
A good first objective would benching 135 pounds, 45lbs plate on each side of an olympic bar. Broscience says it's what an untrained average joe in good shape can lift.
And by benching, I mean with good form and no spotter holding off the bar to help you.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 04, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
I guess you weight 175-180? You aren't lifting a lot of your weight when you do a push up, and they are very different movements. You have trained to do pushups, but not a bench press.
Being able to do ~40 pushups, there is a decent chance you can get up 100. I think you have no chance to get up 150 (which is a real accomplishment, imo).
Generally I am in agreement. But another unknown is how Ide is doing his push ups. There are lots of ways to cheat yourself when doing a pushup so you are making it easier and not getting the full benefit of the exercise. People who think they can do a number of pushups can actually do very few proper pushups.
But that aside, I agree that the number of pushups isnt really a good indication of ability to bench press. For that, Ide, use a bench press machine before moving to free weights so you have a good idea of your max weight. When you move to free weights use a lot less than that. Free weights will engage stabilizing muscles which make the lift more difficult. As you gain strength in your stabilizing muscles move the weight up. Dont lift to exhaustion unless you have a spotter.
Smith Bench Pressing is a waste of time, IMHO. It railroads movement to merely pushing forward while the bar and the pulley system takes all the pression off from the stabilizers, it is awkward to turn and lift to starting motion, and if you don't have a proper failsafe system it can easily fall onto you like a guillotine if the weight is too heavy.
Dumbell Bench Press is the best bench press. You can't kill yourself with the weights if your arms give away, and it allows to work the stabilizers as much as the chest and the triceps, so you get more benefit when transitioning to barbell.
Quote from: Drakken on October 04, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
Dumbell Bench Press is the best bench press. You can't kill yourself with the weights if your arms give away, and it allows to work the stabilizers as much as the chest and the triceps, so you get more benefit when transitioning to barbell.
I agree. To add to the stablizer exercise I have my boys use lower weights while having their shoulders balanced on one of those large yoga balls. Good for the core too.
Quote from: Drakken on October 04, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
Smith Bench Pressing is a waste of time, IMHO. It railroads movement to merely pushing forward while the bar and the pulley system takes all the pression off from the stabilizers, it is awkward to turn and lift to starting motion, and if you don't have a proper failsafe system it can easily fall onto you like a guillotine if the weight is too heavy.
This.
Smith machines are the devil and give one false confidence, all natural stabilization movement is curtailed, hilarity ensues once one tries out free weights.
What is a smith machine?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 04, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
What is a smith machine?
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That looks like about 40 parts too many.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
That looks like about 40 parts too many.
That's why you get a gym membership and let them worry about it. Though most chest press machines aren't going to have the weight hanging over you like that.
I don't think I could life that whole machine.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 04, 2013, 08:34:02 PMThat's why you get a gym membership and let them worry about it. Though most chest press machines aren't going to have the weight hanging over you like that.
My local Planet Fatass gym has failure as their business model. They sell you a year's subscription cheap, which buys you access to treadmills, light dumbbells, a few Smith machines hidden away, etc. No free weights whatsoever, nothing serious, just light cardio while you watch banks of tv screens. And Wednesdays are Pizza Days. :lol: So you buy a year's worth of gym membership, show up 3-4 times in the course of the year then renew your subscription in a fit of guilt on the new year.
If their customers started showing up en masse 3-4 times a week, the wear and tear on the equipment and facilities would put them out of business real quick.
It's pure genius.
Quote from: Legbiter on October 04, 2013, 08:52:17 PM
just light cardio while you watch banks of tv screens.
Hey, as long as you keep moving...
My apartment complex has a workout room that I've been using a lot. I turn the tv to an old movie channel and that keeps me going a lot longer.
OK Sav.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 09:08:16 PM
OK Sav.
Says the guy watching a 50 year old movie about race car drivers.
It's only 47.
And if Sav reads this, I hope he knows I'm kidding. :)
Got more exercise out of bike mechanicing today, than I did riding the thing. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 04, 2013, 09:02:32 PM
I turn the tv to an old movie channel and that keeps me going a lot longer.
Try baseball.
So I did the 13.3km run in 1 hour 21 minutes, a little over the goal of 1:20. But I'm quite content, a lot of the way it was impossible to run any faster due to the 15000 runners in front of me clogging up the road.
Longest run I've ever done. Junk food incoming.
Quote from: Liep on October 06, 2013, 08:06:16 AM
So I did the 13.3km run in 1 hour 21 minutes, a little over the goal of 1:20. But I'm quite content, a lot of the way it was impossible to run any faster due to the 15000 runners in front of me clogging up the road.
Longest run I've ever done. Junk food incoming.
:cool:
Not too shabby for an old lag. :bowler:
(britspeak for actually rather impressed)
Even when in shape I can't run for an hour straight.
Did a bit over 24 miles in 1.5 hours this afternoon, to test out some slower crippy, armoured tyres on the hybrid bike, in preparation for autumn and winter weather. Overall OK and usable.
The road bike is close to being relegated to pasture for the winter. Have to see how this next week is. Mountain bike is still ready for about town in all but blizzard weather.
Quote from: PDH on October 06, 2013, 03:53:03 PM
The road bike is close to being relegated to pasture for the winter. Have to see how this next week is. Mountain bike is still ready for about town in all but blizzard weather.
Good plan, I'm not relying on thin tyres this winter.
Have been attempting to build two rough and ready shopping/off-road bikes out of the disorganised pile of junk/spares I have; this weekend I have mainly been :hmm: :huh: <_< :hmm: .
Today's workout:
As many rounds as possible for 20 minutes.
200m sprint.
4 rounds of:
5 burpees.
5 pushups.
Got to 4 and a half rounds thereabouts. Lost the will to live twice during those 20 minutes, but didn't die.
Wednesday I think I'm just going to lift heavy stuff.
I tried that SMith machine thing for some squats today. Its a death trap.
I did some dumbell presses since I don't want to drop the barbell on my throat or something.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 04, 2013, 09:22:27 PM
It's only 47.
And if Sav reads this, I hope he knows I'm kidding. :)
You were right the first time; I do watch old movies while on the cardio machines.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 07, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
I tried that SMith machine thing for some squats today. Its a death trap.
Serves you right for doing sissies' squats. :nelson: Seriously, Smith bench machines are only good when you need a machine variation for military presses.
If you want to learn how to squat, do it the right way : free barbell, bar on your shoulders, no tampon on the bar, ass out and you lower your body until your thighs are at least parallel to the floor. Set the rack bars on the sides low enough so that they are about an inch underneath you when you in downward position, so that if the weight is too heavy all you need to do is roll it off and let it fall. If you need to start with the bar only, then do it and increase from there.
I promised myself at the beginning of September that by my birthday - in preparation for a life-alteringly-badass ski weekend at gorgeous Timberline Lodge - I would drop 30 lbs and get my sorry ass in shape. Well, September rolled by and aside from eating a little better, I didn't really get started.
But this week I've settled into a routine: every weekday morning when I wake up at 6:00, I do a series of burpees (10, then 9, then 8, etc. down to 1) with 30-second planks in between each set. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays after work, I'm running 5K.
If I can keep it under 1900 calories a day or so, I will definitely lose the weight I want and more importantly get back in shape by the middle of February.
I was a category 3 lardass fahdiz a couple years back and what worked for me was a semi-Paleo diet combined with Crossfit and a lot of slow walking. I didn't count calories at all, I basically ate as much as I wanted of meat, fish, fowl, eggs and vegetables, nuts & fruits, basically very nutrient dense and satiating (high fat) foods. I cut out all grains, industrial seed oils, sugar and HFCS.
Basically anything that comes in a box.
I didn't get fat overnight. And I didn't lose the fat overnight.
But after the first 2 weeks of this way of eating I started losing weight at a steady clip (say, 2 lbs. a week) and I went from 240 lbs. to 167 lbs.
Now I'm at 185 lbs. but I still fit into the same same clothes I did at 167, so the difference seems to be lean muscle mass I've added in the last year or so via my lifting heavy things routine.
Executive summary: Think lifestyle change for long term results and not just a crash course, quick-fix diet. Oh and eat steak & eggs. A lot.
Quote from: fhdz on October 08, 2013, 08:52:46 AM
But this week I've settled into a routine: every weekday morning when I wake up at 6:00, I do a series of burpees (10, then 9, then 8, etc. down to 1) with 30-second planks in between each set. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays after work, I'm running 5K.
For skiing I recommend squat jumps instead of burpies. Also do some one legged squats with the off leg back behind resting on an elevated surface.
If you cant do that yet then do some regular squats and wall sits until your legs are strong enough to graduate to the squat jumps and one legged squats.
The planks in between are good but try to work yourself up to at least 1 minute asap.
Skiing is all about core strength, balance and your ability to hold a semi squat as you go down the hill.
what is broscience
1300 calories today. I'll be losing it overnight, thanks.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2013, 07:25:39 PM
1300 calories today. I'll be losing it overnight, thanks.
Has this become a dieting thread now ? :unsure:
It could stand to lose a few posts.
Yays. I can do 110 pounds for a lat pull down. And 140 for a seated row.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 09, 2013, 07:25:39 PM
1300 calories today. I'll be losing it overnight, thanks.
I just crammed 400 pop tart calories down my throat.
And crammed the Byetta between your toes. Ouch!
Before you say anything, I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU. :weep:
So I pulled a muscle in my neck Thursday*, and I knocked off doing anything until I thought it'd healed enough. Did some pushups yesterday, it hurt a little, so I didn't do anything else; today, it seemed fine, and I did just one set of curls, and I think it's going to be really sore in the morning. I don't know when to know when it's healed. How can I tell? Is it in his kiss, or what? <_<
*Not doing any sort of exercise, or as a result. I pulled it jolting out of bed. I know it wasn't from any exertion, because when I woke up the first time to slap the alarm across the room off, I was fine. It was on the second occasion that I pulled it. It's lame.
Edit: On the plus side, I've been at or, usually, far below 2000 cals for most of the week. Barely lost anything. I've seen the error of my ways, now, and I blame my metabolism. :goodboy:
That's funny, I work out an hour a day and I'm barely losing anything either. I blame my massive consumption. :lol:
TB is a bitch.
Quote from: Legbiter on October 08, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
Executive summary: Think lifestyle change for long term results and not just a crash course, quick-fix diet. Oh and eat steak & eggs. A lot.
Oh, I don't do crash course diets. I've been in good shape before, lost a lot of weight and kept it off for a long time. I've just gotten complacent, is all.
Eeek, haven't done alot over the last few days, consequently I'm breaking up; Isz getting old. :(
Have done a ton of goblet squats over the last week. My quads are killing me. Not sure hwy they are suddenly so sensitive.
Today's workout.
3 rounds of
50 air squats.
2x
15 situps
15 kettlebell swings ( 24 kgs)
Did the whole thing in 12 minutes. Not bad for a Monday.
Sinus infection has been killing me this past week. Mostly affected my cardio workouts. Thoughyesterday I did get 20 minutes in on the arc trainer. Did some upper body stuff. Have noticed quite a jump in the weight I can move now. Will be on vacation in DC for the rest of the week, so while the hotel has a fitness center I'm not gonna commit to using it, since, you know, vacation.
Well it looks like my winter 'fitness programme' will be largely limited to a 14 mile round trip up the valley and back.
Plan is to do the 7 miles there at a reasonable pace and take it easy on the way home.
Manage this evenings trip there in about 26.5 minutes, an average of 16.25 mph, though the bits of noddling to cross town, stopping or walking it across pedestrian crossings, slows the average down, as does the cycle computer than continues to think you're moving 2-3 seconds after you've stopped. :hmm:
Is it about time someone started the Fitness 2014, so people can get their plans/new years resolutions, out there for the rest to see ? :unsure:
Just got new tyres for my mountain bike, Schwalbe's Nobby Nics.
I've been using my mountain bike more and more lately, it's just better to be shielded by the trees this time of year when there's heavy winds. Also, they've been digging a new single track. Much fun.
Only down 10 pounds, but have lost 3 inches from waist since first of the month by increasing lifting and interval training.
Quote from: Liep on October 28, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
Just got new tyres for my mountain bike, Schwalbe's Nobby Nics.
I've been using my mountain bike more and more lately, it's just better to be shielded by the trees this time of year when there's heavy winds. Also, they've been digging a new single track. Much fun.
:cool:
Excellent, sounds like good fun.
I need to sort out some usable off-road bikes, still faffing around, maybe I'll get one ready by the weekend. :hmm:
Eeek, I actually walked nearly 1 3/4 miles today. :(
Extremely wet today in the forest, and lots of fallen trees blocking the track. It's much fun to ride full speed through a water hole only to discover halfway through that it's much deeper than it looked.
Quote from: Liep on November 03, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
Extremely wet today in the forest, and lots of fallen trees blocking the track. It's much fun to ride full speed through a water hole only to discover halfway through that it's much deeper than it looked.
:cool:
Rather you than me, I'm a coward.
Quote from: Liep on November 03, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
Extremely wet today in the forest, and lots of fallen trees blocking the track. It's much fun to ride full speed through a water hole only to discover halfway through that it's much deeper than it looked.
Yeah, Mountain biking after a heavy rainfall is a lot of fun. You just need to endure hosing yourself off along with the bike after the ride.
Managed to get out and do 20 miles on the bike late this afternoon to do some mapping.
Having had this nasty cold/flu, that's been doing the rounds, has rather taken a toll on my fitness; aches/pains, stiffness seem to take centre stage unless I keep exercising the old body. <_<
Something of a disaster here....
I ran a half marathon today. I timed it as 1:54:15. However, I showed up a bit over half an hour late. For some reason--probably because they turned off the electronic timer at the start line-my time is appearing as 2:28.
I was trying to time my arrival as close as possible to the start gun because it was in the 20s and I didn't look forward to standing around in a T-shirt (there was no clothing check). That seems to have backfired on me.
Quote from: alfred russel on November 28, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
Something of a disaster here....
I ran a half marathon today. I timed it as 1:54:15. However, I showed up a bit over half an hour late. For some reason--probably because they turned off the electronic timer at the start line-my time is appearing as 2:28.
I was trying to time my arrival as close as possible to the start gun because it was in the 20s and I didn't look forward to standing around in a T-shirt (there was no clothing check). That seems to have backfired on me.
:(
20F s seriously, that's like below freezing.
I don't mind cycling at speed in low temperatures, coming home in 40s to low 50s was fine this evening, but 20s is officially brass-monkey weather over here. :bowler:
Quote from: mongers on November 28, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
:(
20F s seriously, that's like below freezing.
I don't mind cycling at speed in low temperatures, coming home in 40s to low 50s was fine this evening, but 20s is officially brass-monkey weather over here. :bowler:
It is here too--the low is typically about 20 degrees higher. I've never run when it was so cold out. The water stations were actually treacherous because the spilled water turned to ice.
Quote from: alfred russel on November 28, 2013, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 28, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
:(
20F s seriously, that's like below freezing.
I don't mind cycling at speed in low temperatures, coming home in 40s to low 50s was fine this evening, but 20s is officially brass-monkey weather over here. :bowler:
It is here too--the low is typically about 20 degrees higher. I've never run when it was so cold out. The water stations were actually treacherous because the spilled water turned to ice.
Yeah, doesn't sound fun; glad you survived. :)
Managed to just do a bit over 300 miles on the bike this month. <_<
Time to start the Fitness 2014 thread? :P
I rode 12 miles today in 42 degree weather with wind. I can't wait for April...or maybe May
Quote from: PDH on November 30, 2013, 08:11:48 PM
I rode 12 miles today in 42 degree weather with wind. I can't wait for April...or maybe May
:cool:
Road or back on your mountain bike?
Road bike. No snow, but lots of wind.
I have hip bursitis in one hip and severe restriction of movement that could be wear and tear in the other for which I'm starting physio treatment on Thursday. Combine that with the fact I'm still coughing up lumps two weeks afetr coming down with bronchitis, and I'm on the bench watching my waistline steadily expand until January.
Running. Sucks.
Just finished four miles. By which I mean a three and a half mile walk interspersed with about a half mile of desultory jogging and one ill-considered early sprint.
Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2013, 09:54:40 PM
Running. Sucks.
Just finished four miles. By which I mean a three and a half mile walk interspersed with about a half mile of desultory jogging and one ill-considered early sprint.
I know you aren't asking my advice, and this is not the standard advice, but it worked for me when I quit smoking and started running...
I would run every day as far as I could. It wasn't very far at first. I would only run for a few minutes, and as soon as I broke from my run I would go home. But each day I would go a house or two further (in part by discovering how to run slower and slower). Within a few weeks I was going 20+ minutes, and once you hit that threshold, improvements come quickly, and you can start thinking about how to run at a pace that won't see old ladies pass you.
Incidentally, today is the first day I will run in almost a month (I had a big vacation that involved lots of hiking). It will be interesting to see how much I deteriorated. I want to run a marathon in the late March / early April timeframe, so I really hope I don't suck too bad.
Quote from: alfred russel on December 28, 2013, 07:58:16 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2013, 09:54:40 PM
Running. Sucks.
Just finished four miles. By which I mean a three and a half mile walk interspersed with about a half mile of desultory jogging and one ill-considered early sprint.
I know you aren't asking my advice, and this is not the standard advice, but it worked for me when I quit smoking and started running...
I would run every day as far as I could. It wasn't very far at first. I would only run for a few minutes, and as soon as I broke from my run I would go home. But each day I would go a house or two further (in part by discovering how to run slower and slower). Within a few weeks I was going 20+ minutes, and once you hit that threshold, improvements come quickly, and you can start thinking about how to run at a pace that won't see old ladies pass you.
I'm always happy to hear your advice. I'm going to try to run every other day, alternating with days I work out. If the past is any guide (granted, the "past" is now over "thirteen years ago" I'll kickstart my cardiovascular system back into "running mode." Although right now I've got coldlike symptoms. :(
Hey, 2013 is over. :o
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