Randomly Rolling for HiS powers (alphabetical order)
Max - France
Tamas - Hapsburgs
Solmyr (or other) - England
sbr - Protestant
ulmont - Pope
Viking - Ottoman
If you want to swap with another player just do so.
Quote from: Viking on July 10, 2012, 10:10:28 PM
ulmont - Pope
Viking - Ottoman
If you want to swap with another player just do so.
No way. Pope is my second favorite power, and I'm playing the Ottomans in another game right now.
I want to try the Ottomans again. I had never played them before and see so many small things that I should have done differently.
If anyone else wants to play the hapsburgs I wouldn't find giving them up. I can play them but since my only game went 4 turns....
I'm ok with England.
Quote from: sbr on July 10, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
If anyone else wants to play the hapsburgs I wouldn't find giving them up. I can play them but since my only game went 4 turns....
well, I could have an other match against Viking :P
Assuming that you want to be a religious power again.
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on July 10, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
If anyone else wants to play the hapsburgs I wouldn't find giving them up. I can play them but since my only game went 4 turns....
well, I could have an other match against Viking :P
Assuming that you want to be a religious power again.
No fucking way are your cards going to be as good this time round.
Quote from: Viking on July 11, 2012, 02:07:31 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on July 10, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
If anyone else wants to play the hapsburgs I wouldn't find giving them up. I can play them but since my only game went 4 turns....
well, I could have an other match against Viking :P
Assuming that you want to be a religious power again.
No fucking way are your cards going to be as good this time round.
:rolleyes: it waz the l33t skillz
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on July 10, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
If anyone else wants to play the hapsburgs I wouldn't find giving them up. I can play them but since my only game went 4 turns....
well, I could have an other match against Viking :P
Assuming that you want to be a religious power again.
I will leave it up to you. If you want another go with the Hapsburgs I would be happy to take the Protestants.
If you don't want to roll with the HRE for a second time in a row, I will play them. Always needs to be a first time, right?
You say the word and that will be final and we can start the game.
Let us switch then, I'll take The Chin for an other spin.
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 03:20:16 AM
Let us switch then, I'll take The Chin for an other spin.
Good I was hoping that was going to be your decision.
I'll create the game then.
Hopefully this time Tamas won't have Peasant War on turn 1. :P
Sbr can go ahead and roll the 95 theses.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 11, 2012, 03:39:20 AM
Hopefully this time Tamas won't have Peasant War on turn 1. :P
heh
can we restart? I want a new hand :P
Magdeburg, Lubeck and Erfurt convert.
File sent.
I have given my Diet card to the Sultan. I urge the Protestant heretic and His Holiness to do the same.
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 04:31:48 AM
I have given my Diet card to the Sultan. I urge the Protestant heretic and His Holiness to do the same.
Isn't there a step or two in between?
The turn 1 English negotiations are first. So if Tamas were to agree to give me a card draw, it would come before Worms. ;)
oh crap
Pretty sure Tamas did the same thing last game too.
:mad:
can you guys email or pm me which cards you gave since I didn't get to see my hand until AFTER you guys sent me your cards.
I have the tamaite and ulmontist cards.
Quote from: Tamas on July 11, 2012, 07:02:26 AM
:mad:
I'm sorry you are consistently dumb in the same ways, Tamas. :hug:
http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,7767.msg430989.html#msg430989
Henry VIII is: ready.
Viking, give Tamas his card back. :P
Tamas given his card back.
We need the protty card as well.
Yep. Incoming momentarily.
Technically announcements come first, though I suppose Prots won't care about it much.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 11, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
Technically announcements come first, though I suppose Prots won't care about it much.
Nah, shouldn't effect me much. Card is sent.
Habsburg announces alliance with England, and if it's accepted, a card given to England
what about that diet card tamas
England confirms alliance with Habsburgs and receives a card draw from them.
England gets a pretty nice card from me :bleeding: and I again gave my Worms card to Ottomans.
I assume nobody else has any particular announcements. Viking can resolve Worms with the cards given.
Diet of Worms
Luther: Andrea Doria 5 cp
Pope: Landsknechts 1 cp
Chin: Fredrick the Wise 3 cp
Seriously Tamas, your worst card was a 3 cp card? WTF?
Protestant dice: 9
Catholic dice: 4
resolving; 1 hit each, no effect.
Ottoman SD
Leaders 7R1C to Nezh.
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2012, 03:58:26 AM
Protestant dice: 9
Catholic dice: 4
resolving; 1 hit each, no effect.
:bleeding:
Habsburg SD:
Ferdinand and 4 regulars from Vienna to Antwerp
English SD: Henry, Brandon, 3r from London to Calais.
Can't send a file yet, at work.
Preemptive no sd
Playing home card for 4 regulars in Nezh.
I think the french sd is missing... but I'm not sure. I'm doing this anyway.
yeah the french SD is missing so I am waiting on that before moving
I included the english SD in my move file. Tamas can include the french and papal sds in his move file.
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2012, 09:12:13 AM
Tamas can include the french and papal sds in his move file.
Quote from: ulmont on July 12, 2012, 06:37:32 AM
Preemptive no sd
:contract:
I suspect Tamas's point is more "I want to know where the hell the guy I'm at war is deploying before I move, kthx."
No SD
I am sorry I left my game file at work :P
So no file:
#13: 2 / Schmalkaldic League
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/2: Ferdinand and 6 regulars from Antwerp to Metz, starting a siege
soo... antwerp is defended by 1 regular and no fleets?
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2012, 11:39:51 AM
soo... antwerp is defended by 1 regular and no fleets?
the french army is welcome to venture out there :contract:
Quote from: Tamas on July 12, 2012, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2012, 11:39:51 AM
soo... antwerp is defended by 1 regular and no fleets?
the french army is welcome to venture out there :contract:
is the english army equally welcome to try?
I don't think I can actually DOW Habsburgs, being an ally. Or does the English home card ignore that?
Over to Max anyhow.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 12, 2012, 12:45:59 PM
I don't think I can actually DOW Habsburgs, being an ally. Or does the English home card ignore that?
Over to Max anyhow.
sigh, no you can't DOW allies... that's what you get for lending your strength to tamasite scum. Antwerp should be yours!!!!!11oneoneoneoen
I don't think I can intercept neutral fleets. Anyway, my move is the same.
I didn't get the move file, I don't think it was attached to the email.
Quote from: Maximus on July 12, 2012, 01:06:01 PM
I don't think I can intercept neutral fleets. Anyway, my move is the same.
I didn't get the move file, I don't think it was attached to the email.
damnit..
what?
Quote from: Maximus on July 12, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
what?
well obviously I managed to send another mail without the attached file... sigh...
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
Quote from: Maximus on July 12, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
what?
well obviously I managed to send another mail without the attached file... sigh...
it was the one from Sol
The Pope builds a couple of mercs and sieges Florence. File sent that incorporates Hapsburg-Papal moves.
#67: 3 / Anabaptists
Message from Protestant:
2/3 Publish treatise
3/3 +1 German NT
Brandenburg and Leipzig flip.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Event
#74: 5 / Diplomatic Overture
Message from Ottoman:
Give one card to france and draw two cards from the deck.
Being nice to France seems to be useful.
on to Tamas
Quote from: sbr on July 12, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
#67: 3 / Anabaptists
Message from Protestant:
2/3 Publish treatise
3/3 +1 German NT
Brandenburg and Leipzig flip.
Remember to add the Brandenburg units.
Gah. Can the next person to make a file do that please?
#11: 2 / Defender of the Faith
Message from Hapsburgs:
ONCE ONLY MANDATORY EVENT Papal player makes 3 Counter Reformation attempts targeting all language zones
1/2: assault Metz
2/2: one merc to Bescancon
Assault wins but I lose 2 regulars :bleeding:
Monty kicks the bucket second game in a row. Over to Max.
Defender of the Faith eventually resolved (Erfurt only), followed by the successful assault of Florence by the Papal troops (aided by Siege Artillery).
so why did you skip Max?
Max built one merc in Paris IiRC?
Quote from: ulmont on July 14, 2012, 12:01:11 PM
Max built one merc in Paris IiRC?
Yep.
Quote#80: 1 / Gabelle Revolt
Message from France:
merc in Paris
Erfurt and Hamburg flipped for me.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#24: 1 / Arquebusiers
Message from Ottoman:
1/1 Leaders, 11R+1C move from Nezh to Belgrade.
The campaign against hungary starts.
Tamas Next
Played Fuggers.
No file, chiefly because I again left my file at work :Embarrass:
Quote from: Tamas on July 14, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
Played Fuggers.
No file, chiefly because I again left my file at work :Embarrass:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/portable-usb-memory-sticks/xx_7069_70076_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html
:rolleyes:
QuoteHome card: DOW France.
1-4/5: 4 mercs in Calais.
5/5: Move all from Calais to Boulogne.
Over to Max.
#83: 3 / John Zapolya
Message from France:
1/3 Build a merc in Paris
3/3 send an explorer
Build a merc and a boat. Pope is out of cards, so done for this turn.
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 07:36:41 PM
#83: 3 / John Zapolya
Message from France:
1/3 Build a merc in Paris
3/3 send an explorer
Seriously WTF?
Finished the German NT and went 0/5 on Reformation attempts.
Quote#34: 2 / Professional Rowers
Message from Ottoman:
1/2 Build 1Cav in Istanbul
2/2 Assault Belgrade
I take belgrade, but, like the hapsburgs, I take two losses.
Can I have a screenshot plz, with French troopnumbers also told? :Embarrass:
Also, Max, we could only negotiate out in the open of course, but I would have sold my soul for the playing of the Zapolya event. I most certainly would have sold Metz for it. :)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiZbhs.jpg&hash=b7a1a95e89afa929fc6233a821f546c689f5d8bc)
4r+4m and Francis in Paris. Everything else is just as it seems. You need the Spain/France border?
Sbr, shouldn't you be able to try Prague or Breslau on the 6th attempt? If you run out of spaces in the target zone you are allowed to go elsewhere. At least with 95 theses you are totally allowed to target the Czechs, it's even in the example given in the rulebook.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
Sbr, shouldn't you be able to try Prague or Breslau on the 6th attempt? If you run out of spaces in the target zone you are allowed to go elsewhere. At least with 95 theses you are totally allowed to target the Czechs, it's even in the example given in the rulebook.
Hmmm, I don't know and am too drunk to try and read the rules. My reformation attempts came from translating the German NT, I assumed I had to stay in the German zone while the 95 Theses can be anywhere.
You don't have to confine your Reformation attempts to the target zone (rules page 29 at the bottom, it's not a requirement), but you don't win ties outside it and don't autowin on a 6. The only time you must stay within the target zone is if you commit Carlstadt or Calvin for preaching sermons or when flipping spaces after debates.
Targeting Breslau would still give you 5 dice vs 1 so it's worth a try.
If everyone agrees to let me I will roll for that on my nest turn as the 6th space of my last turn.
Thanks sbr! Also I am fine with the fix
#90: 5 / Printing Press
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/5: 1 regular to Vienna
4/5: 1 squadron to Barcelona
5/5: naval move, squadron in Seville to Atlantic Ocean, 2 squadrons in Barcelona to Gulf of Lyon
I'll assume no interception from the French
You gonna sit in Metz for long then, Tamas?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
You gonna sit in Metz for long then, Tamas?
well I think you should progress with your conquest for now.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
You gonna sit in Metz for long then, Tamas?
He has a garrison of 4 dudes in Metz, too small to threaten Paris or Lyon. Just large enough to get spring deployed to next turn. A Well played use of Chucki's special ability can have him taking lyon and marseilles in the near future.
He's had two impulses to get more stuff in there. Tamas, act decisively? Nevar! :P
Quote#12: 2 / Master of Italy
Message from England:
No Italy VP.
1/2: Flag Boulogne
2/2: All to Rouen.
No French intercept, over to Max.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
He's had two impulses to get more stuff in there. Tamas, act decisively? Nevar! :P
two cards
First, play chin
Teleport Chuckie to Besancon
1/5 Move Freddy plus regulars to Besancon
3/5 Move Chin+Freddy plus 5R+1M to Lyon
5/5 Move Chin plus 3R to Marseilles
Second, play 3 CP card
1/3 flag geneva
2/3 assault Lyon 4 dice vs 2 dice
3/3 assault Marseilles 5 dice vs 2 dice
4 dice generate the 1 hit needed 80% of the time, 5 dice do it 87%. With the English in Rouen france is reduced to 3 keys generating 2 cards (with leader) meaning that he'll have to buy peace for VP: Lots of VP.
Tamas will probably just build a regular in Vienna, or something.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
Tamas will probably just build a regular in Vienna, or something.
It wouldn't be the first time he followed my cunning plans. Remember Genoa?
Riiight, I had so much alternative moves to reach Genoa before France did :P
Besides, the masterplan Viking posted leaves out the part where France gets to move his army against my two half armies, or undefended Metz.
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
Besides, the masterplan Viking posted leaves out the part where France gets to move his army against my two half armies, or undefended Metz.
What with the french army running around normandie and peidmont killing englishmen?
Plus an alternative plan for you involves just taking Marseilles.
ah, right, the French have moved out.
Max should post his stuff here :P
Presumably he is waiting for solmyr to respond before telling him he needs to respond here. I think he relies on email.
Well that went well. Thanks Tamas.
Isn't this the point where the english army is destroyed and both Henry and Brandon go into French Custody?
That's the way I read it.
Hey, I took a risk (although I didn't realize it worked like that). Max took a risk too, since if he lost, his army would have been destroyed instead.
By the way sbr, you probably know this already, but I recommend using your HC to pick up Printing Press and save it for next turn. And remember to roll the Breslau conversion.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Hey, I took a risk (although I didn't realize it worked like that). Max took a risk too, since if he lost, his army would have been destroyed instead.
? No, he would just have retreated to Paris. Only absurdly bad dice for him could have had that effect.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
By the way sbr, you probably know this already, but I recommend using your HC to pick up Printing Press and save it for next turn. And remember to roll the Breslau conversion.
That's pretty much a game winning move, playing printing press every turn and picking it up with the HC each turn pretty much wins the game for the Protestant since it gives one extra die per reformation attempt for the rest of the turn, not just impulse.
Attacker has to retreat where he came from, so he had to go to Boulogne. But since he didn't flag it, he couldn't go there, hence destruction.
Quote from: Viking on July 15, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
By the way sbr, you probably know this already, but I recommend using your HC to pick up Printing Press and save it for next turn. And remember to roll the Breslau conversion.
That's pretty much a game winning move, playing printing press every turn and picking it up with the HC each turn pretty much wins the game for the Protestant since it gives one extra die per reformation attempt for the rest of the turn, not just impulse.
Except he cannot pick it up again if he plays it as event.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Hey, I took a risk (although I didn't realize it worked like that). Max took a risk too, since if he lost, his army would have been destroyed instead.
Yea I had a bit of a brain fart on that one. I was saving the cps to attack Calais, but decided against it. As it was there was no reason not to flag boulogne
Quote from: Maximus on July 15, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Hey, I took a risk (although I didn't realize it worked like that). Max took a risk too, since if he lost, his army would have been destroyed instead.
Yea I had a bit of a brain fart on that one. I was saving the cps to attack Calais, but decided against it. As it was there was no reason not to flag boulogne
You also cannot attack Calais (or at least, not siege or assault it), because I have more ships in the Channel than you.
Good thing I decided against it then :D
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Viking on July 15, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
By the way sbr, you probably know this already, but I recommend using your HC to pick up Printing Press and save it for next turn. And remember to roll the Breslau conversion.
That's pretty much a game winning move, playing printing press every turn and picking it up with the HC each turn pretty much wins the game for the Protestant since it gives one extra die per reformation attempt for the rest of the turn, not just impulse.
Except he cannot pick it up again if he plays it as event.
ah.. the early days when we were still getting the rules wrong...
Speaking of which:
Quotetwo cards
First, play chin
Teleport Chuckie to Besancon
1/5 Move Freddy plus regulars to Besancon
3/5 Move Chin+Freddy plus 5R+1M to Lyon
5/5 Move Chin plus 3R to Marseilles
Second, play 3 CP card
1/3 flag geneva
2/3 assault Lyon 4 dice vs 2 dice
3/3 assault Marseilles 5 dice vs 2 dice
The way I read it, Charles couldn't move out of Lyons the same impulse it was put under siege. Am I wrong?
Nope, you are right.
so WTF happened?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
Nope, you are right.
meh, so much for my cunning plan of distracting everybody...
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:29:07 PM
so WTF happened?
Max destroyed the entire english army and captured both henry and brandon.
:bleeding:
I took Printing Press back and will be passing out the turn.
Am Passing out the turn.
Winter - (assuming nobody does anything in the east) - return everything except 2 Regulars in Belgrade to Istanbul (including fleets and cav).
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
:bleeding:
You know, because Habsburg forces were nowhere near France.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
:bleeding:
You know, because Habsburg forces were nowhere near France.
I never fall for Tamas' nefarious proposals.. why did you fall for his?
>
Quote from: Viking on July 15, 2012, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
:bleeding:
You know, because Habsburg forces were nowhere near France.
I never fall for Tamas' nefarious proposals.. why did you fall for his?
The joke is on him though, because France cannot touch me, but is now free to kick his ass along with you. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
The joke is on him though, because France cannot touch me, but is now free to kick his ass along with you. :P
It's a times like this that France gets treachery.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
:bleeding:
You know, because Habsburg forces were nowhere near France.
You took your sweet time to force a move out of France, and then you denied yourself a retreat route. Don't blame me.
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 15, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
:bleeding:
You know, because Habsburg forces were nowhere near France.
You took your sweet time to force a move out of France, and then you denied yourself a retreat route. Don't blame me.
As I said, I never fall for Tamas' nefarious proposals, why did you?
It was working perfectly fine. He was meant to strike fast, not loiter around with who knows what, and then offer France a way out by not flagging a retreat route :P
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
It was working perfectly fine. He was meant to strike fast, not loiter around with who knows what, and then offer France a way out by not flagging a retreat route :P
He made the basic mistake of starting a siege when the enemy still had an equal force in the field. You probably told him to go for rouen rather than deal with the french army.
BTW Tamas, it is your turn.
Is anybody NOT passing out the turn?
Quote from: Tamas on July 15, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
It was working perfectly fine. He was meant to strike fast, not loiter around with who knows what, and then offer France a way out by not flagging a retreat route :P
I was waiting for, you know, the Habsburgs to actually enter the war in order to make France think twice about leaving Paris. Oh well, France is your problem now. Good luck. And don't think I'm not expecting the agreed-on compensation next turn.
I'm not passing, btw.
Ah so now that I had the time to look at the logs, you DID flag a retreat route you were just simply eliminated.
Crazy dice.
Well, this makes the following much more risky, but me wantsy my extra card!
Playing HC:
Teleport Charles to Bescanon
1/5: flag Basel
2/5: Ferdinand, 4 regulars to bescanon
3/5: Charles, Ferdninand, 5+1 to Geneva
4/5: flag Geneva
5/5: besiege Lyons
Come and get me, Francis!
Quote#9: 2 / Barbary Pirates
Message from England:
Algiers space is now in play. Add an Ottoman square control marker, 2 Ottoman regulars, 2 corsairs, and Barbarossa to that space.
England builds 2 mercs in London with the CPs.
No CB access right now. Max is up.
file with English move sent.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 02:08:59 AM
Quote#9: 2 / Barbary Pirates
Message from England:
Algiers space is now in play. Add an Ottoman square control marker, 2 Ottoman regulars, 2 corsairs, and Barbarossa to that space.
England builds 2 mercs in London with the CPs.
No CB access right now. Max is up.
BTW, this means I will not be passing.
If you have an other "give card to France" card, I will be very disappointed in you, Viking.
ah no, you want to pirate.
I delayed the corsairs as long as I could, Tamas. :P
Btw, going to meet up with some friends today for a RL game of HIS. I'll be playing the Pope. :pope:
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 02:29:36 AM
If you have an other "give card to France" card, I will be very disappointed in you, Viking.
Well, I won't be giving france any more help until he plays John Zapolya for me as we agreed. He didn't even use it to save himself.. he sent a fucking explorer.
He didn't have to agree to play it for me, but he did and then didn't.
Well Max should be aware that Zapolya is a potential game changer, played to whoever at whenever, it may very well decide the fate of the east, and thus the game. Just it did last time.
In general, everyone should be aware of the fact that there is just one player capable of stopping the Ottomans from winning: me. If I fail at this, Ottomans win and everyone loses. This is a friendly reminder for next turn. There is the thing of wanting to weaken Habsburg, and there is the other thing of preventing Habsburg from doing his job, which is making sure the Ottomans don't run away with the game.
France is also about to get 3 war VPs, so think carefully before you help them some more. :P
you cant surrender to them, they have nothing of yours :P
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:15:52 AM
France is also about to get 3 war VPs, so think carefully before you help them some more. :P
meh, just buy back hank with a card and use your supposed inveulnerability to get back up to speed. It's not like you actually need Brandon since you don't have an army anymore.
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:17:19 AM
you cant surrender to them, they have nothing of yours :P
Captured leaders allow suing for peace.
And why would I continue the war since you appear to be uninterested in it?
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:17:19 AM
you cant surrender to them, they have nothing of yours :P
Henry and Brandon :contract:
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:19:23 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:17:19 AM
you cant surrender to them, they have nothing of yours :P
Captured leaders allow suing for peace.
And why would I continue the war since you appear to be uninterested in it?
errr, I am besieging Lyon as we speak. And I kept the entire French army at bay. It is not my fault you felt like you have all the time in the world.
And just buy back Henry with a single card.
Considering this was primarily your war and not mine, I did all the work to allow you to capture Metz with no resistance, at the cost of my army. I assume you'll be offering incentives in addition to what you already owe me if you want me to continue doing something.
And a single card is worth a lot to me right now.
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
errr, I am besieging Lyon as we speak.
That depends, does Max have a 3 cp card?
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
And I kept the entire French army at bay. It is not my fault you felt like you have all the time in the world.
Sigh... you set Sol up
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
And just buy back Henry with a single card.
thats what I said.
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
That depends, does Max have a 3 cp card?
It also depends on whether you'll pirate Tamas' last card from him. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:23:54 AM
Considering this was primarily your war and not mine, I did all the work to allow you to capture Metz with no resistance, at the cost of my army. I assume you'll be offering incentives in addition to what you already owe me if you want me to continue doing something.
I agree, usually it is sleazy england the snatches up Metz when allied to hapsburgs.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:23:54 AM
And a single card is worth a lot to me right now.
And now you know what part of the price you will demand from Tamas for not making a white peace which returns henry and brandon for free.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
That depends, does Max have a 3 cp card?
It also depends on whether you'll pirate Tamas' last card from him. :P
Tamas will NEVER give me a card or sink a boat, unless I'm close to winning.
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:29:18 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
That depends, does Max have a 3 cp card?
It also depends on whether you'll pirate Tamas' last card from him. :P
Tamas will NEVER give me a card or sink a boat, unless I'm close to winning.
You could always get three hits.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:29:57 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:29:18 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 16, 2012, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
That depends, does Max have a 3 cp card?
It also depends on whether you'll pirate Tamas' last card from him. :P
Tamas will NEVER give me a card or sink a boat, unless I'm close to winning.
You could always get three hits.
yes, 3.7% of the time assuming that tamas gets results in the worst 7.5 percentile.
I might do it for shits and giggles though...
I didn't set Solmyr up. If Max didn't have freakishly lucky dice, the English would be feasting in Rouen while I snatched up the remnants of the French army after their lost battle, and all this talk would be moot.
So let's not talk like a fucking disaster of unheard proportions was or should have been part of every plans at the start of the game :P
we're waiting on max, then pope and then luther and then you get to see what my cunning plan is.
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:56:57 AM
we're waiting on max, then pope and then luther and then you get to see what my cunning plan is.
Out of cards.
Quote from: ulmont on July 16, 2012, 08:01:30 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 07:56:57 AM
we're waiting on max, then pope and then luther and then you get to see what my cunning plan is.
Out of cards.
sbr also said he was passing out the turn.. so we are waiting on max.
Yep.
Pass
And Tamas, I didn't need freakishly lucky dice. I just needed a slight edge and I had a slight edge on the odds.
Quote from: Maximus on July 16, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
Pass
And Tamas, I didn't need freakishly lucky dice. I just needed a slight edge and I had a slight edge on the odds.
Sigh.. this means Tamas takes Lyon and gets 6 cards. He will also get 6 cards with still another key.
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 10:41:02 AM
Sigh.. this means Tamas takes Lyon and gets 6 cards. He will also get 6 cards with still another key.
OR, Max is clever enough to wait until I burn my last card, deep in enemy territory, then make a move on my bare LOC... I will have to counter that somehow.
edit: that said, if I take Lyons, the damage is rather minimal if he does that.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#104: 3 / Trace Italienne
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Suleiman + Ibrahim + 9 Reg + 1 Cav move to szegedin
2/3 flag szegedin
3/3 Stack attacks Buda
Am expecting no cards and am proceeding on that assumption.
Attackers 9 Reg + 1 Cav + 2 for leader = 12 dice
Defenders 5 Reg + 1 for defender = 6 dice
WTF, seriously?
I hit 3 times with 12 dice and the hungarians hit 5 times with 6? WTF?
So you're going to give him 7 cards?
Quote from: Maximus on July 16, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
So you're going to give him 7 cards?
I am now.. ffs...
hapsburgs ally hungary and get buda... I retreat to szegedin.
I don't see how you could have taken Buda anyway, which means he gets Buda and Prague and 7 cards
I won the Hungarian war. I get bud if it is under siege when I win the war. It is merely enough to hold bucharest and smack the hungarian army to win. Then, if I have units in the buda area I get it in siege. In my case, however, I reduce the hungarian army enough to win the war, but lose the battle in which this is done (badly) forcing me to retreat, meaning that buda is NOT under siege and thus does not fall to ottoman power when hungary surrenders, in this case going to the hapsburg instead.
If I had won the 12 dice vs 6 dice battle killing at least 3 I would have gotten the buda key. Now I have to take it the hard way.
Gotcha.
QuoteRequest: 6-sided die x 6
6
1
6
5
5
5
Message from Ottoman:
Hungarian defense of buda hits on 5 and 6
:bleeding:
with dice rolling like this skill is irrelevant.
Awesome Magyars are awesome
We showed up for the battle with 2-1 odds and were shocked when the magyars were all
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this was really bad, but we are ottomans and he have
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but it was all a trap since the hungarians had
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yup we're fucked
It's official now. With ACTS I NEVER roll above average and usually roll well under average and in the last 5 rounds of card draws I have drawn a grand total of one "5", one "4" and two "3"s. I fuckin' hate ACTS.
refresh my memory. My assault yielded no result. Like, no hits. AT ALL. for anyone.
Do I get to repeat for a 2nd CP?
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 11:50:42 AM
refresh my memory. My assault yielded no result. Like, no hits. AT ALL. for anyone.
Do I get to repeat for a 2nd CP?
no
Quote from: rulebook page 20A space may only be subjected to one assault in a single impulse
Quote from: Maximus on July 16, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
I don't see how you could have taken Buda anyway, which means he gets Buda and Prague and 7 cards
well, 6 cards now...
Wow, I feel a bit dirty
Goddamit!
with the remaining two CPs, my Lyon stack goes back to Bescanon, just in case.
no file, sorry. Don't ask why, I am too embarassed to tell.
Winter (including the free regular).
4 Regulars Belgrade
5 Regulars 1 Cav + Leaders Istanbul
2 Regulars Algiers
Sent a pre-winter file with Hapsburg moves and some fixes.
Winter:
Atlantic Ocean squadron to Gibraltar
Gulf of Lyon squadrons to Palma
2 regulars from Bescanon to Metz which should be alright as these are over the fort limit
3 regulars and Ferdinand from Bescanon to Vienna (1 merc stays)
Charles from Bescanon to Valladoid, because why the hell not.
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
2 regulars from Bescanon to Metz which should be alright as these are over the fort limit
QuoteFor each such fortified space that contains more than 4 units, the power must return the excess units to their capital
Winter:
Francis +4r +2m to Paris
:bleeding:
ok, sorry.
2 regulars and Ferdinand from Bescanon to Vienna, Charles goes to Valladoid. rest stays in bescanon
No Papal winter.
Me either.
when setting current hand size we add cards on hand to card draw for the final number right? ACTS wise?
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 12:54:25 PM
when setting current hand size we add cards on hand to card draw for the final number right? ACTS wise?
Yes.
Hand + Keys [or electorates] + Leader + New World - Fuggers - Excommunication = ACTS hand size.
Although I probably missed something in that calculation.
I missed the New World in my number.. but then again.. that hasn't been rolled for yet.
Somebody with a file plz roll New World.
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Somebody with a file plz roll New World.
Are we letting CB pick explorers and conquistadors?
The CB picked conquistador was Montejo +2
rolling in ACTS.
Montejo conquered Maya
Hapsburg Explorer is DeSoto +2
rolling in ACTS
DeSoto gets 14
So, choose Tamas, Pacific Strait, attempt Circumnav or choose any 1 VP discovery.
well, the choice is really amazon for 2 or go for circumnav as well as pac strait, but regardless, we need input from Tamas
I got a +2 explorer? I'll make due with Amazon River then
Froggy explorer is Verranzano.
rolling in ACTS +2
Verranzano has no result so he returns to pool.
now rolling for mayan treasure so we can set hand size for tamasite scum
Maya instadepletes but provides a card.
QuoteOttoman: from 4 to 4
Hapsburgs: from 5 to 6
England: from 3 to 3
France: from 5 to 5
Papacy: from 3 to 3
Protestant: from 5 to 5
Changed hapsburg handsize to 6 for extra card. And now ending turn so we can draw cards...
Quote from: Viking on July 16, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Maya instadepletes but provides a card.
Goddamit!
The 2 regulars in Metz should be in Bezancon
I'm basically finished with my diplomacy.
English will winter all to London, btw.
And fleet to Calais.
It doesn't look like it mattered, but you need to make sure you resolve exploration in the right order, Viking. If the two explorers are tied in rating, England, then France, then the Habsburgs are resolved in that order.
I have a rules question (which is, believe it or not, not actually related to this game but another one I'm playing). If England and France are at war, France and Scotland are allied, England captures Edinburgh and France captures Calais, then England sued for peace. Does England keep Edinburgh because it's not a French home space, or does it get returned to French control?
Edit: Nvm, found the answer.
I believe I'm done with diplo
Done too.
Done.
Done, let the Ottomans announce
SD Leaders 5Reg + 1Cav to Nezh.
That's spring deployment, which comes AFTER everyone's announcements and everything else. :rolleyes:
Oh, yes... jumping the gun again
No declarations.
I announce the offer of a card draw and an alliance to England, and an offer of white peace to France.
Accepting card draw and alliance from Habsburgs.
I accept the white peace with Hapsburgs and offer the same to the Pope
England will also sue for peace and/or ransom before SD occurs, after the card draw.
Tamas, I also offer to play Venetian Informant and reveal the Ottoman cards if you are interested.
Same SD as above. Leaders plus all dudes in istanbul to nezh
SD: everyone in Valladoid to Cartagena
Sorry about interfering, but I have to compliment you guys on the pace of your game, makes me jealous.
Accepting the peace with France, no SD, no wars.
Quote from: Delirium on July 17, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
Sorry about interfering, but I have to compliment you guys on the pace of your game, makes me jealous.
Ottoman - Viking - Europe
Hapsburg - Tamas - Europe
England - Solmyr - Europe
France - Max - America
Pope - ulmont - America
Protestant - sbr - America
That is why. We can run 24 hour turns. None of this transatlantic back and forth.
yeah
:thumbsup:
1 - solve england's surrender to france
2 - english SD
3 - french SD
4 - ottomans play first card
I'm just waiting...
England sues for peace and gives France 3 VP (1 for war win, 2 for leader ransom).
Before SD, I will play Venetian Informant and look at French hand.
Also, sbr remember to put Zwingli and turn 2 debaters on the board (and flip Zurich).
3VPs? Wow
You didn't want to fight them, so they win. :)
Cards, dude, cards
What cards? You still have to give me one. :P I cannot afford losing cards since France will raid me with Scots.
Lulz at the Haps card, btw. :lol:
Quote from: Solmyr on July 18, 2012, 02:06:56 AM
Lulz at the Haps card, btw. :lol:
e-mail me which was it, I can't remember
never mind, I know now
Quote from: Solmyr on July 18, 2012, 01:41:38 AM
What cards? You still have to give me one. :P I cannot afford losing cards since France will raid me with Scots.
That's easy to avoid. just spring deploy and build some mercs in the north... 6 regulars and mercs will make the card impossible to play.
but you had to return your dudes from york in your winter phase
I can still SD everyone there, I just don't have 6 dudes. :P
Heh. Nice bluff there, Max. :P
Let's spill it. What's in the French hand? :P
Ransom, a couple of cards usable in warfare, and Diplomatic Overture. Nothing he can really hurt anyone with this turn, unless he gives a card to the Turks.
English do no spring move.
No SD here either.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 18, 2012, 09:28:01 AM
Ransom, a couple of cards usable in warfare, and Diplomatic Overture. Nothing he can really hurt anyone with this turn, unless he gives a card to the Turks.
English do no spring move.
why would he give a card to the turks?
On further reflection, I'll SD all to York anyway.
Play home card to recruit 4 jannisaries at nezh.
Btw Viking, the file you sent was numbered 28 and completely ignores the previous file numbered 28 which had all the winters and such.
I sent a file that included everything that needed to be done in turn 2, plus the Ottoman move.
#70: 4 / Charles Bourbon
Message from Hapsburgs:
1/4: naval move: squadron in Naples to Tyrrhenian Sea, squadrons in Gibraltar and Palma to Barbary Coast. rolling for possible interception
Ottomans could intercept, the odds are actually not THAT bad for them. Viking?
Nope, go ahead.
2/4: naval move, squadron from Tyrrhanean Sea to Barbary Coast, 3 squadrons from Barbary Coast port-attack Algiers
resolve it please, Viking, no card from me
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
2/4: naval move, squadron from Tyrrhanean Sea to Barbary Coast, 3 squadrons from Barbary Coast port-attack Algiers
resolve it please, Viking, no card from me
6 attack dice vs 5 defense dice.
2 corsairs and 1 hapsburg squadron bite the dust, Barbarossa returns next turn.
4/4: Duke of Alva and 5 regulars ship off to Algiers, hopefully to start a siege
I assume the Ottomans will not take the field battle (though it could be lucrative for them!), so I'll send out a file
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 12:24:35 PM
4/4: Duke of Alva and 5 regulars ship off to Algiers, hopefully to start a siege
I assume the Ottomans will not take the field battle (though it could be lucrative for them!), so I'll send out a file
Odds in field combat 6 vs 3
Odds in siege 4 vs 3
on average you'll need two assaults to take Algiers with the force you have.
Tamas's point, Viking, is that a field battle is potentially disastrous for the Habsburgs in that situation. Go look at the retreat rules. If he loses that battle (remember, defender wins ties), his entire force is wiped out and Alva would be captured.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 18, 2012, 01:03:38 PM
Tamas's point, Viking, is that a field battle is potentially disastrous for the Habsburgs in that situation. Go look at the retreat rules. If he loses that battle (remember, defender wins ties), his entire force is wiped out and Alva would be captured.
I know that, but, unlike tamas, I don't win long odds hopeless battles. If the field battle had normally left one defender alive I would have fought, but 6 dice kill 2 duudes on average.
Six dice hit two times or more 65% of the time and if they only hit once I still hit 0 times in 30% of the time. Basically Tamas has an 80% chance of victory.
Do you have your home card unplayed?
Quote from: Habbaku on July 18, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
Do you have your home card unplayed?
No, I would have fought if I still had it.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Event
#100: 2 / Shipbuilding
Message from England:
Not playable by Protestant. Add 2 new squadrons in any controlled home port (or 1 squadron in each of two home ports). Ottoman may choose to substitute 2 corsairs for each naval squadron (but still may not construct squadrons in Algiers or a pirate haven).
Building 2 fleets in Calais.
Over to Max.
Turks get a card with diplomatic overture. No file. Over to Ulmont.
The turk has a new card
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The Papacy recruits a couple of mercs into Florence.
Played Printing Press and got 3 spaces to flip.
I also moved the German NT marker to the end from last turn.
The Prot spaces marker in CB should be at 11, not 10, I forgot abotu Zurich. Could the next person move that please?
Quote from: Viking on July 18, 2012, 01:39:49 PM
The turk has a new card
Arquebusiers, I assume. Or possibly Foreign Recruits. :P
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Ottoman:
Sigh, I was hoping to build lots of cavalry with this card. But, here it goes.
1/4 build corsair in coron
2/4 move entire fleet to agean
3/4 move entire fleet to north african coast
Tamas, will he intercept, I can't think of any good reason to...
but am still rolling for it
Quote from: sbr on July 18, 2012, 01:55:05 PM
I also moved the German NT marker to the end from last turn.
Did you ever roll to convert Breslau or Prague, btw? You technically have to do all 6 attempts from the German NT.
both interception and evasion failed, now we have a 7 vs 6 naval battle.
I'm playing no cards, Tamas?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 18, 2012, 02:11:06 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 18, 2012, 01:55:05 PM
I also moved the German NT marker to the end from last turn.
Did you ever roll to convert Breslau or Prague, btw? You technically have to do all 6 attempts from the German NT.
No I didn't I forgot. Next time around I guess.
I'd say just do it now while you're thinking of it.
Do it now; it might change later play.
Alright done deal. Breslau flipped and I fixed the Prot spaces counter.
Tamas can resolve the battle.
If I lose the battle and have enough fleets left to stop the siege I'm retreating to Algiers, else I'm retreating to the ionian. Pre-Battle file sent out.
Ottomans lose 2 to 1, a Turkish squadron is eliminated, rest is retreating to Ionian Sea as per Viking's instructions
Heh, Tamas you lucky bastard.
:showoff:
#85: 3 / Katherina Bora
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: one Hungarian regular to Buda
3/3: assault Algiers, CC is coming
#28: 1 / Siege Mining
Message from Hapsburgs:
COMBAT Gain 3 extra dice in an assault if you are the attacker. Must be declared before either side rolls.
Viking can resolve. It's 7 vs 3 unless he plays something.
Quotewith dice rolling like this skill is irrelevant.
seriously.. WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF and WTF.
Algiers taken for no losses.
This dice rolling is becoming unacceptable.
ACTS hates me.
I'll include this in my file along with my move, so Viking don't send a file.
You certainly have it bad.
But remember who lost their entire army in two freakish battles at the end of last game. :P
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
You certainly have it bad.
But remember who lost their entire army in two freakish battles at the end of last game. :P
Yes, I rolled average and had three times your numbers.
Quote from: Viking on July 18, 2012, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
You certainly have it bad.
But remember who lost their entire army in two freakish battles at the end of last game. :P
Yes, I rolled average and had three times your numbers.
but France didn't :P
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: Viking on July 18, 2012, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
You certainly have it bad.
But remember who lost their entire army in two freakish battles at the end of last game. :P
Yes, I rolled average and had three times your numbers.
but France didn't :P
France had freakish good luck, I have freakish bad luck. I still have bad dice. My battles are way too often in the bad 10 percentile of results and never significantly better than average.
The League forms. I'm really sorry sbr, but I have to suck up to the Pope right now. You should be fine while Tamas has his attention elsewhere though (and he will now with a huge target painted on him).
Things to fix in the file that I forgot: add 2 vp marker to Ottomans for defeat of Hungary (the VP in ACTS are correct), and war markers for Protestants.
Genoa allies with France, off to Ulmont
Excommunicate Luther, call debate in Germany.
Pausing here to see if sbr's subbing committed Luther in anyway.
Nah, go ahead
1-space Papal victory, Kassel returns, file sent.
#73: 5 / Diplomatic Marriage
Message from Protestant:
3/5 Phillip and 2 R to Kassel
5/5 Publish Treatise
Kassel, Munster, Nuremburg flip
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#102: 3 / Spring Preparations
Message from Ottoman:
3/3 Ottoman Death Stack goes to Buda leaving 2 Regulars in Belgrade.
The dice rolling here has rendered me depressed now... sigh....
Playing HC as event. Charles and 5 mercs to Vienna
Henry asks for divorce. Not sending a file, if the next person could just move my marriage marker to the next spot. :)
Over to Max.
France sends an explorer.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 19, 2012, 02:13:31 AM
Not sending a file, if the next person could just move my marriage marker to the next spot. :)
Done and off to Ulmont
England will pass from now on unless something dramatic happens.
Is it still ulmont's turn or did I miss something?
It is.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 02:29:01 AM
It is.
Ok just making sure I didn't miss something today.
I am leaving for 2 days in the morning, about 8 hours.
I downloaded and unzipped CB on my laptop and copied my whole game folder over with Dropbox but I can't seem to make it work. When I try and open my .gam file it asks me which program to open it with and CB is not an option.
My laptop is Windows 7 and I am very unfamiliar with the OS.
Can anyone help me out so I don't hold the game up for a couple of days?
You should be able to select some sort of "Other" option and just browse for CBPlay.exe. This may help: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/12196-open-change-default-program.html
just find and run cbplay.exe, and open from there
Please Stand By ....
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
You should be able to select some sort of "Other" option and just browse for CBPlay.exe. This may help: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/12196-open-change-default-program.html
No dice. I don't get an 'Open With' when I Right Click and the laptop can't find anything Cyberboard related in a search.
Tamas' solution did work though, so we shoudl be in business if ulmont ever makes his turn.
Quote from: sbr on July 20, 2012, 03:00:11 AM
Tamas' solution did work though, so we shoudl be in business if ulmont ever makes his turn.
Blah blah work blah blah.
Debate made, went to two rounds, and ultimately converted 2 spaces. File sent.
Tyndale was already committed in round 2, so he technically should have only rolled 3 dice. Which would be rather disastrous for Protestants...
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 07:17:53 AM
Tyndale was already committed in round 2, so he technically should have only rolled 3 dice. Which would be rather disastrous for Protestants...
Oh, hey, yeah, burn Tyndale and also flip Munster. I've never seen Tetzel do that well.
Nuremberg and Munster back into the fold.
There's that Mainz problem again...
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#97: 2 / Scots Raid
Message from Ottoman:
The dice have got to go my way eventually
1/2 assault buda
2/2 build 1 Cav Istanbul.
Assaulting buda. I have 11 regs and sulaiman giving me 8 assault dice
the hungarians have 4 defense dice.
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 8
3
2
4
3
6
3
1
4
Message from Ottoman:
Ottoman Assault on Buda
seriously... WTF is going on.
ok, sigh, each side hits once....
Quote from: Viking on July 20, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
seriously... WTF is going on.
The dice can stay on the far side of the bell curve longer than you can stay sane, to paraphrase Keynes.
What are you doing with your files, Viking? They never seem to match up with the previous game state.
Quote from: ulmont on July 20, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 20, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
seriously... WTF is going on.
The dice can stay on the far side of the bell curve longer than you can stay sane, to paraphrase Keynes.
I lost my Sanity in 2005 after 13 attacks on Gibraltar including 8 o-chits, the first attack was a 96% chance of success the worst attack was a 40%.
Can the dice please switch to the other side of the bell curve now?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 10:30:52 AM
What are you doing with your files, Viking? They never seem to match up with the previous game state.
I'm probably reading the last move file.. fiddling a bit, then saving and closing, then after deciding what to do opening again and doing my move...
I'll try to do better.
I dont have access to CB now: how much troops does the Sultan have in Buda? 11?
Quote from: Tamas on July 20, 2012, 10:44:04 AM
I dont have access to CB now: how much troops does the Sultan have in Buda? 11?
10 regulars and 1 cav with suleiman and ibrahim, you have 4 reg 5 mil in vienna and 2 regulars in buda you have 13 dice attacking my 14 if you go straight at me...
thanks!
#12: 2 / Master of Italy
Message from Hapsburgs:
sadly I can't reserve mandatory events, so let's send an explorer
no CB, so no file, sorry.
Waiting on Solmyr and England.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 12:33:29 AM
England will pass from now on unless something dramatic happens.
While your defeats are somewhat dramatic, they don't really concern me. ;)
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 04:23:19 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 12:33:29 AM
England will pass from now on unless something dramatic happens.
While your defeats are somewhat dramatic, they don't really concern me. ;)
Waiting on Max and france then
BTW, my defeats have reached a Marcinesque level of drama.
France sends colonists.
I seem to be having an issue that is preventing me from downloading attachments, so no file until I get it fixed.
ulmont? sbr?
1r to Rome, no file.
Sent a file with Habsburg, French and Papal moves
I'm on the road. I should be able to make a turn today, but it won't be for at least 4 hours.
Quote from: Viking on July 20, 2012, 10:33:22 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on July 20, 2012, 10:30:52 AM
What are you doing with your files, Viking? They never seem to match up with the previous game state.
I'm probably reading the last move file.. fiddling a bit, then saving and closing, then after deciding what to do opening again and doing my move...
I'll try to do better.
This time it is because you didn't incorporate my last move into your file. My file is going to show Phillip and his stack move, the flip of Nuremberg and Munster and the move of my Prot spaces marker to 13 again, along with my current move which is the flip of Mainz and Stettin.
So actually I just moved the marker to 15.
Waiting on Viking and Ottomans. :P
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#103: 3 / Threat to Power
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Assault Buda
3/3 Build 2 Cav Istanbul
the longest 8 minutes of your life?
N.B. when the protestant takes political control of a space the religious conversion does not follow. Also, converting a space does not mean you get political control.
I was hoping to see more Turks dying on the walls of Buda.
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 7
4
2
3
3
2
2
4
Message from Ottoman:
Ottoman Assault on Buda 10 regulars = 5 dice, suleiman 2 more dice. Hits on 5 and 6
must... remain.... sane....
:XD:
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 3
5
5
4
Message from Ottoman:
Hungarian defense. 2 dice for units, 1 die for being defender.
ffs
Side | Ottomans | Hungarians |
Total Dice | 27 | 15 |
Total Hits | 4 | 10 |
Hit % | 14,8% | 66,6% |
Note, I exclude results with overkill so this does not include the siege of belgrade where with 8 dice I managed to overkill with 5 hits on 1 guy. Though it does include the two hits on two dice the hungarians got in that battle.
I know you guys probably find this really really funny; I do not. Basically I'm hitting less than half of what I should be hitting and the hungarians are hitting twice as much.
I pass.
BTW, Viking, it is usually customary to let the defender roll, just in case he has a card to play. More importantly, it can't possibly hurt your odds with the luck you are having. :P
I ain't complaining though. Shittiest run of luck I have ever seen happening to my nemesis? Right on.
Quote from: Tamas on July 22, 2012, 05:52:17 AM
I pass.
BTW, Viking, it is usually customary to let the defender roll, just in case he has a card to play. More importantly, it can't possibly hurt your odds with the luck you are having. :P
I ain't complaining though. Shittiest run of luck I have ever seen happening to my nemesis? Right on.
I didn't bother checking your cards since you would have played them during the last siege, when I did give you time to play cards.
I still pass too.
At the very least, France must still play HC and one other card, and Protestants must play HC (there's a nice Katharina Bora in the discards).
Francis decorates his chateau.
St. Pete's makes some minor progress.
...and no winter.
French file ignored the Turkish losses/builds. Sbr should remove 2 regulars from Buda and add 2 cav to Istanbul along with his move.
Quote from: Viking on July 22, 2012, 05:22:14 AM
N.B. when the protestant takes political control of a space the religious conversion does not follow. Also, converting a space does not mean you get political control.
That counts for regular spaces too, not just electorates, huh? So the 5 spaces I have converted since the SL should be the Protestant side of the HRE maker until I spend a CP or assault to get political control?
Correct.
I fixed the Ottomans.
I put the control markers back where they should be.
I re-added the merc I put with Phillip in Journal entry #216.
And finally Hapsbarg's mercs are growing restless
#87: 2 / Mercenaries Demand Pay
Message from Protestant:
On the Hapsburgs.
Viking didn't say he would pass
Indeed, so while we wait on him you can pay your mercs.
I'll be assaulting Budapest for the THIRD time when Tamas has done paid his mercs.
BTW, I'm no longer trying to win this game, I'm merely going for the good sportsmanship awards now... :cry:
Quote#106: 3 / Unpaid Mercenaries
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Assault Buda 6 attack dice vs 3 defenders
3/3 Build 2 Corsairs at Coron
Tamas can roll for me and do the file. I don't enough remaining sanity to roll more attacks.
In my winter is to leave 4 regulars at buda (if I can) and the rest of the army returns to istanbul and the fleet goes to coron.
I'm too depressed to do anymore. I actually had a decent hand, despite that my own stupidity lost me algiers (should have gotten the fleet out), but the dice rolling has just made me feel numb...
Quote from: Viking on July 22, 2012, 04:36:46 PM
BTW, I'm no longer trying to win this game, I'm merely going for the good sportsmanship awards now... :cry:
At least you still have some kind of army. :P
I will let the evil Protestants destroy my 5 mercs because I'll hold Gout, as a response, to Suleiman's assault.
So yeah, I am wagering 5cps worth of mercs on Ibrahim being just about as successful as his master has been, IF Viking feels like not building one corsair to try the assault with 6 regulars.
Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2012, 01:55:11 AM
I will let the evil Protestants destroy my 5 mercs because I'll hold Gout, as a response, to Suleiman's assault.
So yeah, I am wagering 5cps worth of mercs on Ibrahim being just about as successful as his master has been, IF Viking feels like not building one corsair to try the assault with 6 regulars.
I'll build one less corsair and make the assault with 4 dice. I must try.
I'm not rolling myself, ever again btw. You do the rolling
1/3 aborted assault
2/3 ibrahim assaults
3/3 build 1 corsair
but if I roll it, you will win it :P
Hapsburgs: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 7
2
2
3
1
5
1
5
Message from Hapsburgs:
Ibrahim commands the assault on Buda.
first 4 dice are ottomans
this is amazing :lmfao:
I am sorry Viking :(
I feel horrible.
You should, next turn you are getting zerged like nobody has ever been. :P
This game is so fucked. France and Habsburgs dominate, while everyone else has no army.
sent a file, also including Ottoman and Habsburg winters.
two errors though: ottoman ships must return to port, and I forgot to remove a merc from bescanon.
So we are waiting on France now, right?
France still has to play at least one card, and Protestants still have HC to play.
Quote from: sbr on July 23, 2012, 03:35:45 AM
So we are waiting on France now, right?
I suspect France won't do anything that would affect your play, so you might as well do it now.
English winter btw is everyone returning to London. Someone doing the next file can include it if they want.
And why should I be zerged Solmyr? I am at my zenith. Yeah, I might be temporary holding two more keys against the Turk than I am supposed to, but everyone knows that won't be like that forever.
And I achieved that by sacrificing my New World spending. I have a meager exploration under way, I have no chance of extra cards from anything next turn.
On the other hand, France is well and healthy and ready to take over my place in America, for example. So are you.
Pointing me out as the danger would be a big ruse. My momentum is gone. Yours' and France's? It's just gaining traction AND already right next to me in VPs.
How am I right next to you in VPs? And my momentum would be more real if my army didn't all die fighting for you.
Btw, this must be revenge for like, every wrong done to Hungarians ever. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on July 23, 2012, 03:43:07 AM
How am I right next to you in VPs? And my momentum would be more real if my army didn't all die fighting for you.
Btw, this must be revenge for like, every wrong done to Hungarians ever. :P
:lol: actually it has been happening around the 556th anniversary of the glorious Hungarian defense of Belgrade, where we seriously pwnd the Ottomans.
Coincidence? I think not.
My army went from being a 11R1C army besieging 3R in Buda to having a 6R1C army besieging 2R. In 19 rolls I hit once, while tamas was hitting 2 out of 3 rolls. With dice rolling like this competence is irrelevant.
Quote from: Viking on July 23, 2012, 03:52:47 AM
My army went from being a 11R1C army besieging 3R in Buda to having a 6R1C army besieging 2R. In 19 rolls I hit once, while tamas was hitting 2 out of 3 rolls. With dice rolling like this competence is irrelevant.
My version is that "fortune favors the bold" and my luck has been just helping to underline what an awesome player I am. And I am sticking to this.
Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2012, 03:52:20 AM
:lol: actually it has been happening around the 556th anniversary of the glorious Hungarian defense of Belgrade, where we seriously pwnd the Ottomans.
Coincidence? I think not.
Zombie Janos Hunyadi is pleased.
QuoteThere is a counting error on my part but
1:18
2:16
3:14
4:9
5:19
6:22
average should be 16,6.
I got an RMS of 1,7
Quoteyep 43 hits when there should have been 33.
I thought I'd have to do some math to show how fucked this is with 100 rolls, but getting 9 fours and 22 sixes sort of shows my point.
but seriously, ACTS doesn't know which dice are mine and what result I want from them, does it?
fuck.. the rabid atheist of Languish is now ascribing agency to random number generators... have I really sunk so low?
I took Katherina Bora from the discard pile and will hold it. I will be passing out the turn now.
No file.
ALSO: IS there a reason there is still a Hapsburg merc in Besancon?
That was an error. I sent a file with Hapsburg and Ottoman fixes, French move and English winter. Pope has no winter so we just need Protestant winter and end of turn.
If I understand it correctly, Clement VII becomes the new pope. Neither that nor the protestant winter should affect the new world resolution so I'll go ahead and do that now.
Phillip's stack will move back to wittenberg
Rut finds the great lakes, Cartier finds the Mississippi, Magellan can go for the pacific strait and circumnavigation or take the st. lawrence.
France gets a card from her colony.
File sent includes Protestant winter and new world except for Magellan's voyage.
The Law of Averages demands that my card hand be four 5 CP cards.
2
3
Message from Hapsburgs:
Magellan tries to circumnavigate!
NO
NO
NOOOOO!
Om nom nom.
I was THIS close to 24VPs :P Now it will never happen :( Magellan :(
I am working on ending the turn.
In the meantime: who has received their winter regulars in CB? I know I didn't.
Quote from: Tamas on July 24, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
In the meantime: who has received their winter regulars in CB? I know I didn't.
I haven't look, but I didn't add any myself.
I don't think anyone did.
France seems to have, but I will add one to them as well, we can correct later.
I've diplomatized, is anybody else still negotiating?
Quote2 / Clement VII
ONCE ONLY MANDATORY EVENT Leo X dies. Clement VII replaces Leo as the ruler of the Papacy. Place this card in the ruler space of the Papal power card. Admin Rating: Save 1 card. Card Bonus: no extra cards. If drawn on Turn 3 or later, immediately play and draw replacement
I carefully read the text, it is turn 3 so I must play at the card draw and draw a replacement.
I am done diplomaticizing.
I think I'm done too.
I guess I am done too.
I believe I am done as well.
Ready.
Start declaring then.
Ottoman Diplomacy
Offer alliance to France and accept any ships and cards.
ships and cards? what for?! The ottomans have the largest ship-pool ever, and a huge-ass army.
Habsburg offers alliance to France and Papacy, and accepts a card draw from the latter (and just about anyone who feels like offering).
We accept the Sultan's offer of alliance and give him temporary command of the Marseilles squadron.
We reject the offer of alliance from the Hapsburgs.
Grant Hapsburgs 1 card draw.
Grant England a divorce in exchange for one card draw, presumably forthcoming.
As the divorce will fuck up the Hapsburg alliance, no alliance with Hapsburgs.
I fucked up the ordering again. Too used to going after Tamas.
England will give a card to the Pope in exchange for divorce, and generally poo-poo everyone on the continent.
What's the official card draw order, Pope->Habsburgs or England->Pope first?
Pope to haps first.
Quote from: ulmont on July 27, 2012, 12:07:38 AM
Pope to haps first.
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Quote from: Maximus on July 26, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
We accept the Sultan's offer of alliance and give him temporary command of the Marseilles squadron.
We reject the offer of alliance from the Hapsburgs.
We recieve it warmly in coron.
Though we are still waiting on sbr my SD is all dudes from Istanbul to Szegedin.
before we start SDing, we mus go through declarations of war (I ain't declaring nothing against anyone, I am a man of peace), then my play of Venetian informant on the Ottomans.
Unless somebody surprises me with a DoW, then I might change my mind on whom I am playing it on.
Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2012, 03:05:24 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 26, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
We accept the Sultan's offer of alliance and give him temporary command of the Marseilles squadron.
We reject the offer of alliance from the Hapsburgs.
We recieve it warmly in coron.
Goes to nearest port, so to Algiers I think?
England continues poo-pooing everyone on the continent and does not declare wars.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 27, 2012, 03:20:17 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2012, 03:05:24 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 26, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
We accept the Sultan's offer of alliance and give him temporary command of the Marseilles squadron.
We reject the offer of alliance from the Hapsburgs.
We recieve it warmly in coron.
Goes to nearest port, so to Algiers I think?
I wish I still owned Algiers :contract:
No DOW from me. I'm already at war with the Devil.
I got nothing.
Anne Boleyn proves frigid. Any roll from 3 to 6 would have been nice. I bet my next one will be 1.
France DoWs Hapsburgs
Pope will have no DoW and no SD
No DoWs from me. I will have a SD but I have 2 questions.
The last file I see is #58, from 3 days ago. Is that right?
If so, I didn't get my regular added to Wittenberg. Didn't someone do that?
Quote from: sbr on July 27, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
No DoWs from me. I will have a SD but I have 2 questions.
The last file I see is #58, from 3 days ago. Is that right?
If so, I didn't get my regular added to Wittenberg. Didn't someone do that?
:blush:
Screw you France!
Alright I am playing Venetian Informant on Ottomans
Quote from: sbr on July 27, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
No DoWs from me. I will have a SD
No, you won't.
QuoteRestrictions:
• Only land units and army leaders that start this phase in their capital may use spring deployment. The Hapsburgs may use spring deployment from either one of their capitals (but not both). The Protestant power (which has no capital) can never use spring deployment.
Quote from: Tamas on July 27, 2012, 12:10:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on July 27, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
No DoWs from me. I will have a SD but I have 2 questions.
The last file I see is #58, from 3 days ago. Is that right?
If so, I didn't get my regular added to Wittenberg. Didn't someone do that?
:blush:
Screw you France!
Alright I am playing Venetian Informant on Ottomans
Why not play it on france? oh, well...
you get to see my cards.
Mah spring is: Ferdinand and 1 regular from Vienna to Besancon.
England moves all units to Calais.
So what do the Turks have? :P
Quote from: Solmyr on July 27, 2012, 06:19:32 PM
England moves all units to Calais.
So what do the Turks have? :P
No hope of rolling more than 4 on a combat roll :contract:
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
Quote from: Maximus on July 27, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
:huh:
Do you have Master of Italy or something?
England, France has master of Italy, and no leader in France!
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 27, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
:huh:
Do you have Master of Italy or something?
England, France has master of Italy, and no leader in France!
I suggest that it is up to you to stop him.
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2012, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 27, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
:huh:
Do you have Master of Italy or something?
England, France has master of Italy, and no leader in France!
I suggest that it is up to you to stop him.
I suggest you let me
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 03:53:30 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2012, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 27, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
:huh:
Do you have Master of Italy or something?
England, France has master of Italy, and no leader in France!
I suggest that it is up to you to stop him.
I suggest you let me
Do you see any turks in italy stopping you? Seriously ffs. I'm too far behind to help the frogs, I've got my own problems.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#101: 4 / Smallpox
Message from Ottoman:
1/4 - Doomstack to Budapest (7R4C+Leaders)
3/4 - Recruiting two corsairs in Coron
4/4 - Deathfleet to Ionian Sea (4C2F1FF+Barbarossa)
The hapsburg fleet at tunis should expect an interception if it leaves port
where is: the file?
#42: 4 / Roxelana
Message from Hapsburgs:
Suleiman hurries back to Istanbul for some sexy time!
1/2: Ferdinand + 4R to Metz
2/2: 1 merc to Antwerp
1 - at least I'm getting sum
2 - you fell into my trap - the details of which are in the emails sent to my conspirators
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2012, 06:56:14 AM
2 - you fell into my trap - the details of which are in the emails sent to my conspirators
no secret diplomacy after the diplo phase!
so spill it :P
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 07:09:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2012, 06:56:14 AM
2 - you fell into my trap - the details of which are in the emails sent to my conspirators
no secret diplomacy after the diplo phase!
so spill it :P
Now that I don't need suleiman in buda to move the army, he is more useful in istanbul where janissaries can give him a new army and he can take malta.
either that or it's whatever france does next
Quote from: Tamas on July 28, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 27, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Francis deploys with 5 mercs to Genoa
:huh:
Do you have Master of Italy or something?
England, France has master of Italy, and no leader in France!
Do you see me having an army?
You can't SD across a pass, btw, so Francis will have to walk to Italy. Farthest he can go is Marseille or Grenoble.
Anyway, England borrows money from the Fuggers. No file, over to France.
Max, please put a -1 card marker on my power card and fix your SD. :)
I think he could SD there via sea
Indeed, SD was via Marseilles and the Gulf of Lyon.
#95: 5 / Sack of Rome
Message from France:
1/5 Genoan fleet to Tyrrhennian Sea
2/4 Francis and 5 mercs to Naples
4/4 2 Genoan regulars to Naples
Francis convinces his mercs to sack Naples instead.
I am sorry but I am taking the field battle in Naples when you first land with Francis and 5 mercs, and playing Landschknets, so it's 6 dice vs. 7 dice unless you have a combat card yourself.
Is Swiss Mercenaries playable to add mercs to another player?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 29, 2012, 10:18:21 AM
Is Swiss Mercenaries playable to add mercs to another player?
no
Oh well, Francis got his ass kicked anyway. :P
:yeah:
Francis: prisoner
once again Tamas is saved by a 1 in 26 roll.
Francis is taken prisoner. The Genoans stay where they are. Troops move etc. File coming
I would have been saved by any kind of marginal victory though, as I was meeting you on the beach
Habsburgs placed 4 mercs and France killed 2, so there should still be 2 added to Naples in CB.
Quote from: Tamas on July 29, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
I would have been saved by any kind of marginal victory though, as I was meeting you on the beach
True, you still have some some kind of rng fairy dancing to your tune.
St. Peter's gets a little nicer. And Solmyr needs to pull out Clement III onto my power card.
I don't own the deck tray, Referee does (Tamas?). Anyway, Clement has admin rating to save 1 card.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 29, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
I don't own the deck tray, Referee does (Tamas?). Anyway, Clement has admin rating to save 1 card.
deck tray is random I guess
Well, someone could drag all the cards in it to the discard tray and pull cards from there.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 29, 2012, 02:00:50 PM
Well, someone could drag all the cards in it to the discard tray and pull cards from there.
Is that the only way to pull a specific card out of the tray? Seems a bit ridiculous.
Seems so. From my test games, I know that even the referee can only pull random cards from the deck tray, even though he can see them all. Not sure if tray properties can be edited during the game.
Shouldn't Cranmer and the other Anglican debaters be on the board now?
Why do we need to play this refereed? We don't use CB for cards; which is the only reason we would want to use the refereed version.
Quote from: Maximus on July 29, 2012, 10:43:13 AM
once again Tamas is saved by a 1 in 26 roll.
Francis is taken prisoner. The Genoans stay where they are. Troops move etc. File coming
something tells me france just failed to win the game...
Quote from: sbr on July 29, 2012, 02:43:24 PM
Shouldn't Cranmer and the other Anglican debaters be on the board now?
Actually, can someone figure this out now? If Cranmer et al. are on the board, I'm changing my move...
The rules say that the English Reformation starts "on the turn after Henry marries Anne Boleyn". I assume this means turn 4, as the marriage occurred this turn. The only thing papal approval does is give England two rolls in turn 3 if I also use the home card for it.
Someone feel free to correct me though.
EDIT: Looked through the rules, and every mention of Cranmer says that he comes into play in the card draw phase on the turn after Henry marries Anne. So yes, I believe he will only appear next turn.
EDIT 2: Confirmed it on BGG, Cranmer only comes in next turn.
OK. I could have sworn that they were added Turn 3 last game and I didn't give the divorce.
Anyhoo I did my turn. Phillip wandered off to Nuremberg.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Assault Budapest
3/3 Piracy in TS
Tamas bitched about me waiting on cardplays last time. I'll let tamas roll the 4 dice vs 3 dice assault on Buda and the 1 AP die vs 3 Piracy dice regardless of outcome and do the file.
This is also because I refuse to roll dice from now on. You will understand.
N.B. the typo refers to the Tyrrhenian Sea, naturally I'm pirating the Ionian Sea, where my fleet.
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#32: 2 / Gout
Message from Hapsburgs:
RESPONSE Play during another power's impulse just after they have announced they are spending CP to move or assault with a formation that includes an army leader. 1 CP is lost. That leader may not move or assault during this impulse. If Charles V is the targeted leader, it stops any transfer he has just announced with the Holy Roman Emperor card (though a CP is not lost in this case).
you can roll the piracy if its still on
Quote from: Tamas on July 31, 2012, 07:18:16 AM
you can roll the piracy if its still on
You bastard. I'll roll.
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 3
4
6
6
Message from Ottoman:
Piracy roll. Expecting zero hits from three dice.
Two piracy hits, give me cards or VP.
No File.
It's a card and a VP.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 31, 2012, 07:30:05 AM
It's a card and a VP.
this is HIS, no VQ. It is two VPs
And this after you ragged on me for giving France VPs instead of cards. :P
#86: 2 / Knights of St John
Message from Hapsburgs:
If Knights of St. John are on map, not under siege, and connected by 1 sea zone to an Ottoman-controlled port, draw 1 card at random from Ottoman and contribute CP value to St. Peter's construction. OR If Knights are off-map, Hapsburg adds them to a Hapsburg-controlled home port; the port space then switches to independent political control and a fortress is added to the space (if not already fortified).
drop a card, give booty to the Pope!
3 cp to St Peters.
It seems that I no longer have any chance of taking buda.. failing again...
Taking Buda will not give me an extra card but it will take one from the hapsburgs. So.... Max, you know what you need to do in your own self defense for next turn.
You still have a card to assault it.
England uses HC to declare war on Scotland. France can intervene if they want. Will spend the 5 CP once France responds.
France will intervene
Quote1/5: Fleet to North Sea
2-3/5: Henry+all to Berwick
4-5/5: 2 mercs in Berwick
I am willing to let you keep the Scottish units for winter if you withdraw them to Stirling before I reach Edinburgh.
Nah, they'll defend
#66: 3 / Akinji Raiders
Message from France:
Turkish cavalry raid hapsburg lands
Quote from: Maximus on July 31, 2012, 11:06:24 AM
Nah, they'll defend
#66: 3 / Akinji Raiders
Message from France:
Turkish cavalry raid hapsburg lands
gawd
Sending Eck into Germany for a debate. SBR, you want to sub in Luther, or let it ride?
Before you decide SBR, keep in mind that I have Printing Press which will end up in discards this turn.
Let it ride
Prots draw Luther, who beats Eck 3-1. SBR up to pick 2 spaces to convert and play; no file.
Quote from: Tamas on July 31, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 31, 2012, 11:06:24 AM
Nah, they'll defend
#66: 3 / Akinji Raiders
Message from France:
Turkish cavalry raid hapsburg lands
gawd
YAY!!!! Serves you right for playing the fucking kniggots.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#96: 3 / Sale of Moluccas
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Assault Buda 4 dice vs 3 dice
2/3 Move Deathfleet to coast of North Africa
3/3 Port Strike on Tunis 12 dice vs 7 dice
I'm willing to roll the dice again (piracy got my spirit up... It seems the move towards the other end of the bell curve has started).
TAMAS!!!! Cards!!!!?
Before any dice are rolled, rather than north african coast I'm going to the barbary coast. Or if there is bitching, I'm retreating to the barbary coast after the port raid.
Worms and Augsburg flipped on the debate.
Eck and Luther were committed
_______________________________
#30: 2 / Tercios
Message from Protestant:
1/2 Merc in Nuremberg
2/2 Phillip and crew to Mainz
Could we stick to impulse order next time? :P Thank you.
Now I am rolling stuff.
Thanks for stealing my card France, how better everyone will be with the Ottomans out of the bottle and free to roam :P
Buda is theirs with no losses, and they kill 2 of my squadrons for the price of one French.
#81: 3 / Indulgence Vendor
Message from Hapsburgs:
Draw a card at random from the Protestant hand. Add the CP value of the drawn card to the Papal fund for St. Peter's construction. Card is then discarded
no file
TAMAS, it's official from now on you do all my rolling
Buda falls without loss and I kill two fleets for one ottoman one. Can't lose the french fleet until I've already lost an ottoman one first.
Someone gonna send a file?
Quote from: Viking on August 01, 2012, 02:29:07 AM
TAMAS, it's official from now on you do all my rolling
Buda falls without loss and I kill two fleets for one ottoman one. Can't lose the french fleet until I've already lost an ottoman one first.
Bah! You should thank the other players who carry your water in these games. :P Solmyr in the last one, and Max in this. :P
Discarded my card. +3 CP to St Pete's.
QuotePlay Card as Operations
#90: 5 / Printing Press
Message from England:
1-4/5: 4 mercs in Berwick
5/5: Move to Edinburgh
By the way sbr, you cannot assault Mainz right now since you have no LOC. You'll need to flag Kassel or Nuremberg so there's LOC to your electorates.
#12: 2 / Master of Italy
Message from France:
Italy has no master
2/2 send an explorer
Calling another debate in Germany. SBR, you still keeping Luther out?
Technically you have to roll for the normal debaters first.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 01, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
Technically you have to roll for the normal debaters first.
Nope:
QuoteException to Steps 2 and 3: If this debate was called with the Leipzig Debate Home card, the Papal player can either select his own attacker or specify that one Protestant debater is not available to defend during any round of this debate. Likewise, the Protestant player may play Here I Stand at this time to substitute Luther for another debater (attacking or defending), as long as this debate is occurring in Germany. Here I Stand may be used to substitute Luther even if the Papacy already specified that Luther was not available with Leipzig Debate and even if Luther is committed.
Although Ed Beach seems to have played it differently on CSW, not that I see a ruling, so what the hell, rolling.
Campeggio (2) / Bucer (2).
It says "substitute Luther for another debater" which presumably means you have another debater lined up prior to that.
I'll stand
Quote from: sbr on August 01, 2012, 01:28:07 PM
I'll stand
Bucer hands Campeggio his ass, 4-0. Campeggio disgraced, sbr up to pick the spaces and play.
Alright I am done.
I flipped Koln, Trier, Strasburg, Basel from the debate.
Controlled Nuremberg and successfully assaulted Mainz. Started work on English NT.
I think I got the VP thing right. I get 2 VPs for getting an Electorate but the Hapsburgs only lose 1, right?
EDIT: I added the regular unit from Mainz to my stack by taking a 2 unit piece out but I didn't remove the 1 regular from the Electorate Display up top. Could someone do that please?
ACTS seems to be down...
I'm playing Julia Gonzaga (which gives me an extra 1 VP if I manage to pirate in the Tyrrhenian Sea later during this turn). I'll play the card as soon as I get in.
Quote#84: 1 / Julia Gonzaga
Message from Ottoman:
That slut roxelana has pussywhipped the sultan, we need to get a new girl for the sultan to get her to relinquish her hold on him. I hear this Giulia Gonzaga is quite the looker and cultured as well. I will send Barbarossa to go and fetch her for him.
:zzz
His computer had an Out of Beets error?
:D
#110: 4 / War with Persia
Message from Hapsburgs:
send a conquistador
Quote#89: 3 / Pirate Haven
Message from England:
1/3: Assault Edinburgh, 7 vs 4.
Any combat cards from France?
Quote from: Tamas on August 03, 2012, 03:58:56 AM
#110: 4 / War with Persia
Message from Hapsburgs:
send a conquistador
Yay! I'm no longer the main threat!!!
or is it all my surplus cavalry?
#31: 2 / Foul Weather
Message from France:
Assault of Edinburgh called off due to foul weather.
Quote from: Viking on August 03, 2012, 04:55:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 03, 2012, 03:58:56 AM
#110: 4 / War with Persia
Message from Hapsburgs:
send a conquistador
Yay! I'm no longer the main threat!!!
or is it all my surplus cavalry?
Tamas utterly fails to press his advantage against France, once again.
#87: 2 / Mercenaries Demand Pay
Message from France:
English mercenaries demand pay.
Quote from: Maximus on August 03, 2012, 10:13:22 AM
#87: 2 / Mercenaries Demand Pay
Message from France:
English mercenaries demand pay.
england still has 2 cp left to play, perhaps he had planned to buy mercs?
Oh well. England is pretty much out of the game now. Have fun with France, you all. :D
Couple of books burned. File sent. Passing out the turn.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 03, 2012, 10:37:26 AM
Oh well. England is pretty much out of the game now. Have fun with France, you all. :D
What about your last 2 cp?
I spent them on the mercs that France destroyed immediately after.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 03, 2012, 12:00:59 PM
I spent them on the mercs that France destroyed immediately after.
you lost 10 mercs and 2 cards failing to take edinburgh
I lost 10 regulars and 5 cards failing to budapest. Come back next turn.
I assume I get the debator bonuses when I commit them from cards like this, right?
41 5 / Marburg Colloquy
If either Luther or Melanchthon is uncommitted AND either Zwingli or Oekolampadius is uncommitted, Protestant player commits 1 debater from each pair. The Protestant player then makes a number of Reformation attempts equal to the total of their debate value targeting all language zones. Remove from deck if played as event.
Quote from: sbr on August 03, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
I assume I get the debator bonuses when I commit them from cards like this, right?
41 5 / Marburg Colloquy
If either Luther or Melanchthon is uncommitted AND either Zwingli or Oekolampadius is uncommitted, Protestant player commits 1 debater from each pair. The Protestant player then makes a number of Reformation attempts equal to the total of their debate value targeting all language zones. Remove from deck if played as event.
Not for those guys, but you can commit another debater if his bonus applied.
Yeah, when an event requires you to commit a debater, you just commit them, they don't give their bonuses.
Wouldn't Marburg have been better as an event? Use Zwingli and Melancthon for 6 conversion attempts.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 03, 2012, 12:55:21 PM
Wouldn't Marburg have been better as an event? Use Zwingli and Melancthon for 6 conversion attempts.
That was my initial plan until I looked at my odds.
With my base chances I only had one space I had positive odds and 2 spaces where we had the same number of dice. If i committed a 3rd debater I would have gained a 3rd space with even dice. My 5th attempt would have been at a 2 die disadvantage and I didn't bother looking for a 6th.
I am curious what others think, but I figured I could do something more productive with the CPs than roll at that bad of odds.
More attempts are better than fewer attempts. The odds are the same either way. You did two attempts now anyway, as an event you would have got them as well as four additional ones.
QuoteOttoman: Edit Home Cards Played
Ottoman: from No to Yes
Hapsburgs: from No to No
England: from Yes to Yes
France: from Yes to Yes
Papacy: from Both to Both
Protestant: from No to No
Playing Home Card for CP
2/5 Piracy in Barbary Coast
3/5 Move deathfleet to Tyrrheinian Sea
5/5 Piracy in TS
I'm back to rolling myself.
Looks like Gonzaga escapes half-naked with the help of a knight.
Drat that cunning slut...
lose one corsair and score 1 vp (presuming tamas will not lose his fleet) for piracy in Barbary coast.
Remaining stuff:
Tamas to play HC
Max to play his last card if he wants
Sbr to play HC
sigh....
Tamas 1 hit from 2 dice
Viking 1 hit from 6 dice
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftheoriginalwinger.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FMario.jpg&hash=310ae5cf0e18668a932f8e6ce494fbb74c1c5c5a)
Ottoman Winter
leave 3 regulars in Budapest
leaders, 4 regulars and cav return to istanbul
fleets 3 corsairs 1 fleet to coron, french fleet to bastia, genoa or marseille.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 03, 2012, 01:11:28 PM
Remaining stuff:
Tamas to play HC
Max to play his last card if he wants
Sbr to play HC
We're waiting TAMAS...
I AM sinking the squadron. Let's not run up your VP count needlessly :P
HC:
2/5: send colony
4/5: send explorer
5/5: merc to Antwerp
File is still missing 2 Habsburg mercs in Naples. Also, Ottoman piracy VP should be 2 then?
Quote from: Solmyr on August 05, 2012, 09:30:27 AM
File is still missing 2 Habsburg mercs in Naples. Also, Ottoman piracy VP should be 2 then?
Where did the Hapsburg mercs come from?
When he played Landknechts there as Francis was landing. 2 mercs were killed and 2 were left after the battle I believe.
Scots raise some troops in the highlands.
File includes missing hapsburg mercs
Took PP from the discard pile and I am now done with this turn.
EDIT: How does Winter work for me with a stack of 6 and no capital? Do I have to move 2 units to another fortified space somewhere?
Quote from: sbr on August 05, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
Took PP from the discard pile and I am now done with this turn.
EDIT: How does Winter work for me with a stack of 6 and no capital? Do I have to move 2 units to another fortified space somewhere?
Page 33 in the rules:
QuotePROTESTANT UNITS: Since the Protestant player has no
capital, Protestant land units are always moved to the nearest
fortified space under Protestant control that can accommodate
the units while remaining within the limit of 4 or fewer units
per fortified space. Land units that start the phase in a stack
may of necessity be split up and moved to separate spaces
(Once the nearest fortified space fills to 4, compute the new
nearest space.)
So basically you leave 4 units in Mainz and move 2 to Wittenberg. Leaders can go to either.
English winter is: 1 regular to York, the rest to London. Fleet to Calais.
French winter: One scot to Edinburgh, two regulars from Rouen to Paris, one merc from Lyons to Paris, all med squadrons to Genoa.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 05, 2012, 12:28:07 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 05, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
Took PP from the discard pile and I am now done with this turn.
EDIT: How does Winter work for me with a stack of 6 and no capital? Do I have to move 2 units to another fortified space somewhere?
Page 33 in the rules:
QuotePROTESTANT UNITS: Since the Protestant player has no
capital, Protestant land units are always moved to the nearest
fortified space under Protestant control that can accommodate
the units while remaining within the limit of 4 or fewer units
per fortified space. Land units that start the phase in a stack
may of necessity be split up and moved to separate spaces
(Once the nearest fortified space fills to 4, compute the new
nearest space.)
So basically you leave 4 units in Mainz and move 2 to Wittenberg. Leaders can go to either.
English winter is: 1 regular to York, the rest to London. Fleet to Calais.
:blush: I was on page 33, just didn't make it to the second column.
I think we can assume the pope has no winter and finish out the turn. If he does it won't affect anything much. Just need you to decide where your leaders go, sbr. I'll do new world stuff.
Remember to add the free regulars.
Orellana can take the St Lawrence or attempt a circumnavigation, Tamas?
phillip will stay where he is and the other (john?) will follow the other 2 to wittenberg
Yeah, no papal winter
We're waiting TAMAS...
for what? :huh:
Quote from: Maximus on August 05, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
Orellana can take the St Lawrence or attempt a circumnavigation, Tamas?
Request: 6-sided die x 2
6
6
Message from Hapsburgs:
CIRCUMNAVIGATIONALIZATIONAL ATTEMPT by my +3 explorer dude.
OH BOY
so I should draw a card right now, before end of turn?
Yes, you get that one immediately.
Orellana circumnavigates and finds loot. Roberval finds the St Lawrence. Pizarro is eaten by Incans. French colonists are productive, Spanish are not.
Quote from: Maximus on August 06, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Pizarro is eaten by Incans
FFS. And you think I am lucky. One meager conquest the whole game which deplets the moment it opens up for business. Ridicoulous.
double sixes on the circumnav roll?
Cards for next turn according to my calc:
Ottomans: 4
Habsburgs: 7 (6 +1 from circumnav)
England: 2 :bleeding:
France: 6 (4 +1 Francis +1 colony)
Pope: 4 (3 +1 saved)
Prots: 5 (4 +1 saved)
France should get 1 for Francis and 1 for new world
Ah right, sorry.
Also Viking, remove Gonzaga from active events (assuming you want the possibility of it being dealt next turn... it shouldn't be an active event anyway since it only lasts one turn at most).
Quote from: Solmyr on August 06, 2012, 01:47:52 PM
Also Viking, remove Gonzaga from active events (assuming you want the possibility of it being dealt next turn... it shouldn't be an active event anyway since it only lasts one turn at most).
I thought it got removed when played as an even, even if the bitch escaped.
Then play it as event?
Anyhow, cards dealt.
I'm done with diplomacy
My outstanding offer remains open and if you just make the down payment I will fulfill the terms as offered.
Are you guys still doing diplomacy?
Should we put up a time limit for diplomacy?
48 hours is usually the limit for PBEM games, no? In any case, England is done I think.
I'm done too.
Yeah, go for it.
ready
5/6 declare diplomacy to be over, it must be over
Ottoman
No peace, no cards, no lent fleets etc. Will accept any gifts though.
Habsburg offers alliance to England and Papacy.
England accepts Habsburg alliance.
England also offers alliance to Protestants, in case I get to Anne of Cleves this turn (will happen if I get a 3 on the marriage roll with Jane).
France has nothing to report.
Accept haps alliance. No wars / no sd.
I'll accept the English alliance. And nothing else to report.
Turkey declares war on no one, the sublime port is already at war with everybody we need to be at war with.
no dows
No wars.
Actually suing for peace and ransoms should be before wars, in case Max wants to ransom Francis.
Nah
No wars
Turkish SD, Ibrahim and all cavalry to Buda
Habsburg SD: Ferdinand goes from Vienna to Metz
England: Henry and all to Berwick.
wait, I forgot my winter regular. I had Ferdie and 5 in Vienna right? so my SD is ferdie plus 1 regular to Metz. I wanna leave just 4 regs in Vienna
2r + 1m to Lyons
I'm out of town this weekend and forgot my laptop so I won't be taking a turn before my Sunday evening.
I'm hoping to be around but last time I was over there internet access was pretty spotty.
We are waiting on VIKING. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 13, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
We are waiting on VIKING. :P
oh, fuck.. me?
I had a very enjoyable weekend ;)
I try and fail to pirate the IS, losing a corsair in the process and move an army to rhodes (or if I said malta I meant whichever island the hospitalier pirate menace is currently occupying)
:nelson:
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#63: 4 / Dissolution of the Monasteries
Message from Hapsburgs:
English player draws 2 cards from deck. Protestant player then makes 3 Reformation attempts targeting the English language zone. Remove from deck if played as event.
England: Play Card as Operations
#110: 4 / War with Persia
Message from England:
1/4: Fleet to North Sea
2-3/4: 2 mercs in Berwick
4/4: Henry & all to Edinburgh
Sbr to make 3 conversion attempts, over to Max.
#38: 2 / Halley's Comet
Message from France:
Hapsburgs stare in chinless slack-jawed wonder at the comet and toss a card.
No file
Waiting until I get the SBR file with the 3 Dissolution reformation attempts to go forward.
Quote from: Tamas on August 13, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#63: 4 / Dissolution of the Monasteries
Message from Hapsburgs:
English player draws 2 cards from deck. Protestant player then makes 3 Reformation attempts targeting the English language zone. Remove from deck if played as event.
Wasn't it this card played by you as last game that won the game for max?
I stayed an extra day. I should be home in 5-6 hours.
Quote from: Viking on August 13, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 13, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#63: 4 / Dissolution of the Monasteries
Message from Hapsburgs:
English player draws 2 cards from deck. Protestant player then makes 3 Reformation attempts targeting the English language zone. Remove from deck if played as event.
Wasn't it this card played by you as last game that won the game for max?
I think there's no danger of that now. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 13, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 13, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 13, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#63: 4 / Dissolution of the Monasteries
Message from Hapsburgs:
English player draws 2 cards from deck. Protestant player then makes 3 Reformation attempts targeting the English language zone. Remove from deck if played as event.
Wasn't it this card played by you as last game that won the game for max?
I think there's no danger of that now. :P
At least Tamas has learned something from previous experiences.
Quote from: Viking on August 13, 2012, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 13, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 13, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 13, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Hapsburgs: Play Card as Event
#63: 4 / Dissolution of the Monasteries
Message from Hapsburgs:
English player draws 2 cards from deck. Protestant player then makes 3 Reformation attempts targeting the English language zone. Remove from deck if played as event.
Wasn't it this card played by you as last game that won the game for max?
I think there's no danger of that now. :P
At least Tamas has learned something from previous experiences.
Now, let's not jump to conclusions.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 13, 2012, 11:37:23 AM
Now, let's not jump to conclusions.
Good point. I suggest we delay any such judgement until he has the opportunity to give the card to a protestant england with a healthy edward.
I didn't get a turn 84.
Viking sent 83 8.5 hours ago then I got 85 from Sol 90 minutes later but nothing in between. When I try and load 85 it says game state doesn't match.
Viking sent 84 right after 83. It says it was sent to you.
84 just removed one corsair. I did the file before rolling the dice. Thats what I get for tempting fate.
Quote from: Maximus on August 13, 2012, 04:03:54 PM
Viking sent 84 right after 83. It says it was sent to you.
Weird, I didn't get it.
I will just skip it and do my conversion attempts now.
I got a failure to deliver error on the second mail to only sbr
resending
Lincoln and Norwich flipped, Plymouth resisted.
Quote from: Viking on August 13, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
I got a failure to deliver error on the second mail to only sbr
resending
Got it that time but it was in my spam folder. :hmm: Maybe because of the subject line.
Either way thanks.
ACTS mails tend to go into spam folders a lot for me.
That is the first one that did
Quote from: sbr on August 14, 2012, 01:04:27 AM
That is the first one that did
the lack of a subject line probably did it.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#50: 2 / Mercator's Map
Message from Ottoman:
1/2 assault rhodes
second CP will depend on the result
Victory for no loss.
2/2 Fleets to North African Coast
Viking, your rolls are way off. Knights get 2 dice, and you get only 5.
I haven't taken my turn yet, I didn't realize ulmont had.
Though I suppose it isn't that big of a deal that Viking went out of order.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 14, 2012, 02:20:17 PM
Viking, your rolls are way off. Knights get 2 dice, and you get only 5.
:huh: :frusty:
use my 7 as 5/2 then I get the same result.
Quote from: sbr on August 14, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
I haven't taken my turn yet, I didn't realize ulmont had.
Though I suppose it isn't that big of a deal that Viking went out of order.
this is what I get from reading the subject line from the lastest mov file "Re: ACTS: Here I Stand: 'Languish Stands Again': Protestant action"
I got confused.
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 14, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
I haven't taken my turn yet, I didn't realize ulmont had.
Though I suppose it isn't that big of a deal that Viking went out of order.
this is what I get from reading the subject line from the lastest mov file "Re: ACTS: Here I Stand: 'Languish Stands Again': Protestant action"
I got confused.
I thought about that before i sent it but didn't change it, sorry.
I am going to do my turn in the next few minutes.
Played Printing Press.
Zurich and Basel flipped. Regensburg resisted.
Tamas, it's your turn. I expect results. :P
#46: 5 / Calvin's Institutes
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/5: squadron to Cagliari
4/5: two mercs to Bescanon
5/5: Ferdie, 4r to Bescanon
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#99: 1 / Sebastian Cabot
Message from England:
Henry assaults Edinburgh. English 6 vs Scottish 5.
Any combat cards from France?
English assault Edinburgh inflicting three losses and taking one. The assault fails, however and the siege continues.
Ottoman cavalry raid Hapsburg lands again.
Quote from: Maximus on August 15, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
English assault Edinburgh inflicting three losses and taking one. The assault fails, however and the siege continues.
Ottoman cavalry raid Hapsburg lands again.
yay!! :w00t:
I like how you are delaying your action so that when it comes Tamas will be out of cards and unable to do anything.
goddamit Max. Viking owes you one big time with that card. WTF
And you mark my words, Viking is giving the game to France. You heard it here first.
Aleander narrowly beats Latimer, converting 2 English spaces with his bonus.
Quote from: Tamas on August 15, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
And you mark my words, Viking is giving the game to France. You heard it here first.
No, Tamas Max just gave me the coolest card in your hand.
BTW, Max can I have ur baby? :P
Now Tamas, less CP spent on ships more cp spent on sieging fully garrisoned french keys.
Quote from: Viking on August 15, 2012, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 15, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
And you mark my words, Viking is giving the game to France. You heard it here first.
No, Tamas Max just gave me the coolest card in your hand.
BTW, Max can I have ur baby? :P
Now Tamas, less CP spent on ships more cp spent on sieging fully garrisoned french keys.
screw you
Quote from: Tamas on August 15, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 15, 2012, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 15, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
And you mark my words, Viking is giving the game to France. You heard it here first.
No, Tamas Max just gave me the coolest card in your hand.
BTW, Max can I have ur baby? :P
Now Tamas, less CP spent on ships more cp spent on sieging fully garrisoned french keys.
screw you
Is this the point where you get revenge on me for Max taking your coolest card and giving it to me by throwing the game for France?
There is a principle involved. People cannot expect me to get raped AND stop France for them.
Quote from: Tamas on August 15, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
There is a principle involved. People cannot expect me to get raped AND stop France for them.
I don't think you understand how this game works. Hapsburgs are supposed to balance this game. This game is designed with the idea that you are supposed to both stop yourself from getting raped AND stopping france for us. Your not getting raped. I don't even have an army near vienna and france is turtling.
Stop whingeing. I just spent two full turns headbutting against the walls of Buda, what did you do to save us from France in that time?
Quote from: Maximus on August 15, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
English assault Edinburgh inflicting three losses and taking one. The assault fails, however and the siege continues.
Wow, I was expecting at leat 4 Englishmen and at most 1 Scot to die.
Quote from: Viking on August 15, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Stop whingeing. I just spent two full turns headbutting against the walls of Buda, what did you do to save us from France in that time?
He was getting the English to die for him. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 15, 2012, 01:05:12 PM
Wow, I was expecting at leat 4 Englishmen and at most 1 Scot to die.
Yea that was a pretty decent roll for you.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 15, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 15, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Stop whingeing. I just spent two full turns headbutting against the walls of Buda, what did you do to save us from France in that time?
He was getting the English to die for him. :P
I take it you realize that making deals with Tamas is bad for everybody involved including Tamas.
That doesn't mean you have to prop France up.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 15, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
That doesn't mean you have to prop France up.
How am I propping up france? France is propping me up :cry:
#87: 2 / Mercenaries Demand Pay
Message from Protestant:
1/2 Phillip and 2r+2m to Koln
2/2 +1 CP to English NT finishing it
5 English spaces flipped
I am pretty sure I did the assault on Mainz wrong 2 turns ago, not that it mattered, and I want to make sure I do this right from now on.
Since the troops in the Electorates are mine, I am not fighting them I am just trying to control the space. That means I use the rules for no land defenders which means I get a die for each unit, instead of each 2, and I only need one hit to flip the space, no matter how many of my units are in the space.
Is that right?
Correct, electorates are empty unless Tamas puts some units in them, so you get full dice and need one hit to win.
I can't imagine tamas would do that to me since I didn't just erase all his mercs again.
I can't imagine he'd do that to you when he should be zerg-rushing France. But then, he isn't doing that either, so... :P
By the way, this is a good time to point out that Protestants can easily win a religious victory by pumping out translations.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#42: 4 / Roxelana
Message from Ottoman:
hmmm... Wonder which card I just got from Tamas? Could it possibly be this one? If it were this would would that explain the hysterics he has shown us?
2/4 Sully + 5R to Tunis and assault
4/4 Piracy North African Coast
Since Tamas will surely spend his valuable cards to prevent Max from Chateux'ing himself to victory (BY TAKING MILAN ffs) I can be sure that he will not play any cards. But to be on the safe side I'll let Tamas roll the 5 dice vs 2 dice assault on Tunis. I'll roll the piracy.
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 2
6
1
Message from Ottoman:
Piracy Dice North African Coast 2. 1 for 1 Corsair, 1 for Barbarossa.
One hit from Piracy. Tamas can pick card or VP, assuming VP in file sent. Tamas must still resolve assault on Tunis.
Request: 6-sided die x 5
1
4
3
4
4
Message from Hapsburgs:
Ottoman assault dice
Hapsburgs: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 2
4
5
Message from Hapsburgs:
Habsburg defense dice
Horny Suleiman fails the assault and loses a regular. But gains a VP from Piracy
This dice thing ceased to be funny a long time ago.
It still is, kinda.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 16, 2012, 02:46:55 AM
It still is, kinda.
Ottoman dice vs Hapsburg dice this turn
Ottomans
3+2+5 = 10 dice, 1 hit. 10% hit rate.
Hapsburgs
1+1+2 = 4 dice, 3 hits. 75% hit rate.
but the general theme of me hitting at half the expected rate and tamas hitting at twice the expected rate continues.
Playing HC, placing Henry to Besancon
2/5: squadron to Cagliari
3/5: 2 squadrons from Cagliari to Barbary Coast
5/5: 1r 2m from Antwerp to Köln
Ottoman interception fails, but Protestants have the option to intercept at Liege
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2012, 04:13:19 AM
Playing HC, placing Henry to Besancon
2/5: squadron to Cagliari
3/5: 2 squadrons from Cagliari to Barbary Coast
5/5: 1r 2m from Antwerp to Köln
Ottoman interception fails, but Protestants have the option to intercept at Liege
Tamas say: OMG leave me alone France is going to win!!!!!!1111oneoneoneone
Tamas do: attack Protestants and Turks.
Since the Habsburg-Protestant slugfest doesn't affect me, I'll go ahead and make my play.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#88: 3 / Peasants' War
Message from England:
1/3: Henry assaults Edinburgh again. English 6 vs Scottish 2 (should only be 1 Scots unit in there).
Max can play combat cards and roll the dice.
No intercept.
I knew I should have erased Tamas' mercs since he wouldn't ever use them against someone who can actually win the game.
Quote from: sbr on August 16, 2012, 08:09:34 AM
No intercept.
I knew I should have erased Tamas' mercs since he wouldn't ever use them against someone who can actually win the game.
no card from me. roll the dice please. needless to say if (when) I lose, survivors run inside the fort
I'm in my way to work you roll it tamas.
Losses: 2/2
2 mercs die for each side, remaining Habsburg regular retreats inside Köln
Going to send a file, Tamas?
Fuck Mel Gibson. One more English unit dies but Edinburgh is taken.
2 more CPs used to flag Stirling and Glasgow. Sending file in a min.
#96: 3 / Sale of Moluccas
Message from France:
1/3 merc in Rouen
3/3 squadron in Marseille
Lame conversion attempts grab 1 space in England.
I am going to assault Koln. I get 1 die from my 2 units and I am playing a combat card to get another 3.
I guess I wait on Tamas now.
Quote from: sbr on August 16, 2012, 04:12:09 PM
I am going to assault Koln. I get 1 die from my 2 units and I am playing a combat card to get another 3.
I guess I wait on Tamas now.
damn! roll it
Koln defenders get annihilated but somehow get off a lucky shot to kill a Protestant regular.
I spend my home card building 2 fleets and 1 corsair in coron.
Quote from: sbr on August 16, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Koln defenders get annihilated but somehow get off a lucky shot to kill a Protestant regular.
:mad:
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: build a squadron in Malta
3/3: naval move: all my 3 squadrons move to North African Coast
I rolled for Ottoman evasion and it was successful, so it's Viking's call if he wants to run like a coward.
Going to make my play again now since it's not affected by anything.
QuoteEngland: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 1
2
Message from England:
Sexing up Jane Seymour. +1 to roll.
Jane is a promiscuous bitch. England will roll again with Anne of Cleves after passing next, also giving a card draw to itself and Protestants.
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 02:02:58 AM
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: build a squadron in Malta
3/3: naval move: all my 3 squadrons move to North African Coast
I rolled for Ottoman evasion and it was successful, so it's Viking's call if he wants to run like a coward.
My navy gloriously advances towards Vienna via the Ionian Sea.
Expect to be outnumbered in the near future. :cool:
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 02:44:31 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 02:02:58 AM
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: build a squadron in Malta
3/3: naval move: all my 3 squadrons move to North African Coast
I rolled for Ottoman evasion and it was successful, so it's Viking's call if he wants to run like a coward.
My navy gloriously advances towards Vienna via the Ionian Sea.
Expect to be outnumbered in the near future. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_-5pZ_kxY
France is up.
When Tamas runs out of cards I predict: Max takes Antwerp.
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 02:58:49 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 02:44:31 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 02:02:58 AM
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: build a squadron in Malta
3/3: naval move: all my 3 squadrons move to North African Coast
I rolled for Ottoman evasion and it was successful, so it's Viking's call if he wants to run like a coward.
My navy gloriously advances towards Vienna via the Ionian Sea.
Expect to be outnumbered in the near future. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_-5pZ_kxY
this one is much better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
When Tamas runs out of cards I predict: Max takes Antwerp.
not if I build a squadron there :P
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 03:21:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
When Tamas runs out of cards I predict: Max takes Antwerp.
not if I build a squadron there :P
Which won't matter if he builds one as well. He has 2 cards to each one of yours.
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 03:23:31 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2012, 03:21:51 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 17, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
When Tamas runs out of cards I predict: Max takes Antwerp.
not if I build a squadron there :P
Which won't matter if he builds one as well. He has 2 cards to each one of yours.
yeah but england sort of has a gargantuan fleet there, you see.
Does my fleet prevent the French siege of Antwerp?
Quote from: Solmyr on August 17, 2012, 03:27:09 AM
Does my fleet prevent the French siege of Antwerp?
yes
Quote from: Solmyr on August 17, 2012, 03:27:09 AM
Does my fleet prevent the French siege of Antwerp?
dont think so. But mine would, and to overcome mine, France would have to climb through yours which would pretty much stop that from happening.
At least one hit with 5 dice is 87% But naturally that failure meant that I'm spending the rest of the turn running out tamas' hand in the med chasing ships.
My fleet with 3 fleets 2 corsairs and barbarossa has 10 dice and with my luck that is 3.33/2 = 1.66 hits.
Tamas' fleet with 3 fleets has 6 dice and with his luck that is 2*2 = 4 hits.
I keep hoping that math sanity will return....
Max is up.
Francis tricks out his chateau
The Pope commissions slightly more of St. Peter's.
Played Mighty Fortress
Flipped Retgensburg, Prague and Brunn.
Missed on Strasburg, Linz, Shrewsbury.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#78: 3 / Frederick the Wise
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Move 2F1C from coron to IS
2/3 Move 1C from IS to BarbCoast and Barbarossa 3F1C from IS to North African coast (battle Barb+3F+1C vs 3F)
Tamas can try to avoid battle and/or roll combat. I'm not playing any cards. 9 ottoman dice vs 6 hapsburg dice.
N.B. corsair in barbary coast to prevent tamas from fleeing there.
N.N.B. I still have one remaing CP of action
-----FROM THIS LINE, VIKING IS PROHIBITED FROM WHINING ABOUT DICE------
I played a CC for two extra dice to no avail. Ottomans score two hits to my zero.
I retreat to Malta I guess
1 - I had nine dice and got 2 hits, that is still under average of 3 1/3 my value - 1 1/3
2 - you had 8 dice and got 0 hits, that is 2 2/3 less than expected your value - 2 2/3
and you only lose 1 fleet, two hits kill one fleet. I thought I was hitting 4 vs 0 based on your post here, I hit 2 vs 0 with 9 vs 8 dice
last cp I assault tunis 4 dice vs 2 dice
Suleiman takes tunis with the last cp losing 1 regular in the process.
:mad:
I pass this impulse
And now Tamas is done for this turn without having done anything to stop Max; again.
Quote from: Maximus on August 18, 2012, 10:53:03 AM
Francis tricks out his chateau
You can't do that, Max - Francis cannot be captured to build a chateaux. You'll have to redo your play.
Alright then, take back the home card
#82: 2 / Janissaries Rebel
Message from France:
2/2 2 mercs in Marseille
Not surprisingly, Anne fails at pregnancy. Sbr to draw a card, then France's turn again.
Drew my card.
Skipped France due to not understanding what was going on, but it's just St. Pete's anyway.
playing home card for CPs
1/5 merc in marseilles
5/5 conquest
Protestants are up.
I said I'd only skip that particular impulse but it's alright carry on :P
It's only been one impulse
Played HC to take Frederick the Wise from discard pile. Played it immediately and converted Linz and Vienna and took The Wartburg from the discard pile.
I'm passing out the turn unless tamas does something.
Tamas doing anything?
Quote from: Solmyr on August 19, 2012, 04:15:54 AM
Tamas doing anything?
Well, not against Max. :rolleyes:
Have Habsburg troops even entered French territory since turn 1?
Quote from: Solmyr on August 19, 2012, 04:18:07 AM
Have Habsburg troops even entered French territory since turn 1?
did he even enter then?
1) shut up
2) I'll pass out the turn unless France makes a move
England builds a colony, over to France.
Quote from: Tamas on August 19, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
1) shut up
so you didn't enter france then
Quote from: Tamas on August 19, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
2) I'll pass out the turn unless France makes a move
and you won't be entering france in the near future
You are sure the guy to talk.
ALL you had to do to nerf France is to leave me alone. Hell, I offered you a surrender to leave me alone. But nooooo. And STILL I was ready to take it on France. Until he raced a 2-cards lead on me via events.
Quote from: Tamas on August 19, 2012, 05:20:48 AM
You are sure the guy to talk.
ALL you had to do to nerf France is to leave me alone. Hell, I offered you a surrender to leave me alone. But nooooo. And STILL I was ready to take it on France. Until he raced a 2-cards lead on me via events.
No, you offered me vp to leave you alone. I got those vp myself. But you have convinced me. I'll accept your surrender now and leave you alone to smite france.
Built a squadron.
Off to the pope
England will be passing subsequent impulses.
+1 to French NT
I will be passing out the turn from here.
I expect I'm passing out the turn as well. Pope's up
Can whoever goes last end the turn in ACTS?
Quote from: Viking on August 19, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
Can whoever goes last end the turn in ACTS?
Dont forget winters and new world
Ottoman Winter
Fleets to Tunis
Cav to Istanbul
Leaders to Istanbul
1 Reg from Tunis to Istanbul
English winter: fleet to Calais. Leave 2 regulars in Edinburgh, the rest of the army to London.
ulmont still has to play one more card before the end of the turn.
Quote from: sbr on August 19, 2012, 12:39:43 PM
ulmont still has to play one more card before the end of the turn.
Inconclusive debate in England; I'm done.
French winter:
1r 1m from Lyons to Paris
French conquest fails but the colony produces a card. English and Hapsburg colonies do nothing.
Habsburg winter: Ferdinand and 2 mercs to Vienna, Charles to Valladoid
waiting on papal winter, the eot resolved we can draw cards.
I draw 5 cards with 1 saved. Hand size 6.
QuoteOttoman: Change Hand Size
Ottoman: from 4 to 6
Hapsburgs: from 7 to 7
England: from 2 to 4
France: from 6 to 6
Papacy: from 4 to 4
Protestant: from 5 to 6
Change in hand size, can somebody just confirm I got this right.
Edit: Measure twice cut once.
England should get 5 I think.
Sent a file with winters and end of turn, assuming no Papal winter. Should probably check it as I got interrupted halfway through.
Quote from: Maximus on August 19, 2012, 04:57:19 PM
England should get 5 I think.
this is why I get somebody to check these things ;)'
updated. Any reason not to end the turn?
Need a new pope, can't think of anything else
Quote from: Maximus on August 19, 2012, 05:01:17 PM
Need a new pope, can't think of anything else
in ACTS, pope has no effect in ACTS
Yea should be good to go
ending turn
Remember that if you draw Paul III, play it and draw a replacement.
Also, my analysis is that right now Protestants are closest to winning, being a few translations or large conversions away from a religious victory. Or if they take the two remaining electorates they get close to VP victory too.
That doesn't sound right at all
Quote from: sbr on August 20, 2012, 01:52:53 PM
That doesn't sound right at all
You have 4 Electorates 8 VP
Campeggio disgraced 2 VP
35 Spaces 10 VP
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20VP
Translate the bibles and you get 3 VP more and take 1 electorate or take 2 electorates and translate 1 bible and you win. Add to that the gazillion conversation attempts you get with completing the translations.
Btw, I'm convinced now that Protestants are in fact the faction in HIS most likely to win, because people don't take them seriously in the first few turns and then they drop the translation bomb.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 20, 2012, 02:06:43 PM
Btw, I'm convinced now that Protestants are in fact the faction in HIS most likely to win, because people don't take them seriously in the first few turns and then they drop the translation bomb.
Well, Tamas should do something about it then. I don't think I can take vienna, prague and wittenberg this turn.
They're definitely the most likely to win among inexperienced players precisely because of the lack of experience in realizing how many VPs they really have.
Quote from: Habbaku on August 20, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
They're definitely the most likely to win among inexperienced players precisely because of the lack of experience in realizing how many VPs they really have.
I'd rather say that they were the only power that can win without harming anybody else noticeably. The pope is supposed to fail until it gets a good pope, england is supposed to help and the hapsburgs are supposed to balance france (with english support from time to time), protestants (with papal support from time to time) and ottomans (with "italian" support from time to time).
If Charles doesn't run a campaign in germany taking electorates from time to time then the protestants win the game.
I'm ready to start my next turn. Can we start declarations?
Have there been negotiations? :unsure:
Quote from: Solmyr on August 21, 2012, 05:34:28 AM
Have there been negotiations? :unsure:
I had negotiations. Normal wheeling and dealing with Max as well as an offer to give Tamas peace in exchange for his firstborn.
it's been 24 (well 23.5) hours now. Shall we keep moving?
Well, go ahead. :P
Ottoman diplo
- no surrenders
- no white peace
- no loans of ships
- accept all cards given
Habsburg:
after listening to the outerworldish prices others asked for things which were in their own self-interest, the Emperor has decided to just go along and kick ass in all 3 directions.
I do offer alliance to England and the Papacy as the other two sane powers on the continent, and I accept any cards I may receive.
England refuses alliance.
England offers white peace to France.
Tamas diplomacy fail FTL
What diplomacy? :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 06:17:24 AM
England refuses alliance.
England offers white peace to France.
You know, I also was approached by "let me win the game, in exchange I will not engage in highly risky war against you" offers from the probable subjects. I, however, had the common sense to decline.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 06:31:58 AM
What diplomacy? :P
Precisely, I offered to leave him alone under the same terms he offered last turn. He just kept on not-replying. Apparently me doing him no harm whatsoever was the "otherworldish price" I demanded.
He managed to fail at making a deal with me and france while losing england as an ally. I call that diplomacy fail.
uhm, we did discuss it. And you didnt offer the same terms. Last turn was diffferent in some key ways.
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 06:39:04 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 06:17:24 AM
England refuses alliance.
England offers white peace to France.
You know, I also was approached by "let me win the game, in exchange I will not engage in highly risky war against you" offers from the probable subjects. I, however, had the common sense to decline.
I've achieved my immediate objectives vs France, it's your turn to fight them. They won't be winning the game this turn as long as you actually do it.
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 07:10:43 AM
uhm, we did discuss it. And you didnt offer the same terms. Last turn was diffferent in some key ways.
Yes, my offer this turn was more generous, last time I demanded a key, now I don't.
Quote from: Viking on August 22, 2012, 07:12:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 07:10:43 AM
uhm, we did discuss it. And you didnt offer the same terms. Last turn was diffferent in some key ways.
Yes, my offer this turn was more generous, last time I demanded a key, now I don't.
yeah now you have that key. and you wanted 2 more VPs plus uninterrupted chance at scoring 3 others in piracy against the others. I am not in the "winning game for Ottomans" business :P
And England I thought you cried the loudest against the Ottomans rushing for victory this turn?
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 07:24:36 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 22, 2012, 07:12:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 07:10:43 AM
uhm, we did discuss it. And you didnt offer the same terms. Last turn was diffferent in some key ways.
Yes, my offer this turn was more generous, last time I demanded a key, now I don't.
yeah now you have that key. and you wanted 2 more VPs plus uninterrupted chance at scoring 3 others in piracy against the others. I am not in the "winning game for Ottomans" business :P
And England I thought you cried the loudest against the Ottomans rushing for victory this turn?
I would have preferred Algiers to Tunis, so that I had my "par" keys.
Still diplomacy fail.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
So did I. We are all now in a position to win.
I hear Milan is nice this time of year. I recommend a German vacation there.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:36:56 AM
I hear Milan is nice this time of year. I recommend a German vacation there.
I agree, no need to maintain a garrison in vienna or naples or algiers either for that matter.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
I wanted to write protestants yes :P
Nothing to announce.
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 08:02:47 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
I wanted to write protestants yes :P
well, who is the greatest threat, me or luther? and if luther is the greatest threat why do you insist on fighting me?
Quote from: Viking on August 22, 2012, 08:08:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 08:02:47 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
I wanted to write protestants yes :P
well, who is the greatest threat, me or luther? and if luther is the greatest threat why do you insist on fighting me?
I do not insist on fighting you. I insist on not handling you free unwarranted VPs when you can just pirate yourself to victory even without me explicitly helping you out.
It is in your self interest to leave me alone so I can buy time for the game, which in turn buys YOU time to win. I am not paying you for doing you favors.
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 08:20:21 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 22, 2012, 08:08:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 08:02:47 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
I cried about Protestants rushing for victory. :P
I wanted to write protestants yes :P
well, who is the greatest threat, me or luther? and if luther is the greatest threat why do you insist on fighting me?
I do not insist on fighting you. I insist on not handling you free unwarranted VPs when you can just pirate yourself to victory even without me explicitly helping you out.
It is in your self interest to leave me alone so I can buy time for the game, which in turn buys YOU time to win. I am not paying you for doing you favors.
but the thing I am going to do with the time you are buying for me is piracy :contract: I offered not pirate you. That leaves me the vipers next of anti piracy that is GOL and the pope, who has his two sea zones three zones away.
France will accept the white peace with England and offer the Ottomans a card.
Quote from: Maximus on August 22, 2012, 09:51:04 AM
France will accept the white peace with England and offer the Ottomans a card.
:wub:
Be careful with that one. I've saved it for 2 turns now.
Quote from: Maximus on August 22, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
Be careful with that one. I've saved it for 2 turns now.
Considering the present situation that card doesn't do much for me. I won't waste it though. :cool:
waiting on sbr for diplo part 1
No announcements from me
diplo pt2 No declarations of war from the Sublime Porte.
No DoWs here and no SD.
Max can sue for peace or ransom Francis before DoWs and SDs.
Yea I'll ransom
England shall make love, not war.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 22, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
England shall make love, not war.
playing your home card again?
n.b. you'd be playing if you were making war as well.
I've played it every turn so far. :P
That doesn't seem fair.
waiting on tamas, sol, max and sbr for DOWs
do I seriously look like I need a 4th war? : P
No DoW
No Dow no sd.
Ottoman SD Everybody from Istanbul to Budapest
Next:
Tamas SD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTts-iGixU
Ferdie, 1r 2m from Vienna to Metz.
File sent with Ottoman and Habsburg SDs
Leave 1 regular in London, Henry and the rest SD to Calais.
Next:
Max SD and ulmont SD
No SD
OK, getting the turn under way. Ottoman Re-Armament has started.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#73: 5 / Diplomatic Marriage
Message from Ottoman:
5/5 build 1 fleet and 3 corsairs in Coron
BTW, now that England is at peace, now is the time to take antwerp.
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Yes. Unless of course you have a grand total of one other players not either in war with you or planning to go war with you, and you have lost about 5 or 6 cards to hostile events in the last 3 turns.
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Yes. Unless of course you have a grand total of one other players not either in war with you or planning to go war with you, and you have lost about 5 or 6 cards to hostile events in the last 3 turns.
You do realize that this just means the beat-down you are about to get is going to be 2 VP harder than the one you were already in for.
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Yes. Unless of course you have a grand total of one other players not either in war with you or planning to go war with you, and you have lost about 5 or 6 cards to hostile events in the last 3 turns.
You do realize that this just means the beat-down you are about to get is going to be 2 VP harder than the one you were already in for.
right, because otherwise you guys wouldn't strike for the win
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Yes. Unless of course you have a grand total of one other players not either in war with you or planning to go war with you, and you have lost about 5 or 6 cards to hostile events in the last 3 turns.
You do realize that this just means the beat-down you are about to get is going to be 2 VP harder than the one you were already in for.
right, because otherwise you guys wouldn't strike for the win
Well, it does sort of influence my choice to pirate or not to pirate.
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 25, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Played Copernicus for 2VPs. No file
WTF?
You either play that card as late in the turn as possible to win the game without anybody being able to stop you or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game. Playing it first is just asking to be fucked with.
Yes. Unless of course you have a grand total of one other players not either in war with you or planning to go war with you, and you have lost about 5 or 6 cards to hostile events in the last 3 turns.
You do realize that this just means the beat-down you are about to get is going to be 2 VP harder than the one you were already in for.
right, because otherwise you guys wouldn't strike for the win
Well, it does sort of influence my choice to pirate or not to pirate.
I am your extended arm which halts Protestant and French victory. If you want to try and severe that arm, go ahead.
QuoteEngland: Message
DOW Habsburgs.
1-4/5: 4 mercs to Calais.
5/5: Henry & all to Antwerp.
Well, the Copernicus play made it slightly easier to decide which way to play the HC. :P
#98: 2 / Search for Cibola
Message from France:
Francis +7r +1m to Metz
to Tamas to play cards
See what you did there tamas?
rather than playing copernicus you should have listened to me :contract:
Quote from: Viking on August 24, 2012, 05:42:26 PM
BTW, now that England is at peace, now is the time to take antwerp.
Yeah clearly that was an improvised English move completely triggered by Copernicus :p
I won't have cb acces for a few more hours
Quote from: Viking on August 25, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
or you keep it in hand to play as an event to prevent somebody else from winning the game.
Yeah, that card doesn't work how you think it does. Copernicus doesn't stop someone from winning unless it's preventing a domination victory. They still win if they're at 25+ VPs.
I am playing Landschknets for the battle. Max didn't say he would play anything so I'll resolve the battle
French victory, 4 to 2. 4 Habsburg mercs are eliminated, rest of the lot retreats to the Metz fort.
ENGLAND! Let's be reasonable and do not destroy your chances at victory by hurting me too much. You should just flag Amsterdam and leave Antwerp to me. In exchange I will sue for peace next turn, buying Amsterdam back from you for an extra VP. Which in effect is just as good for you as Antwerp, except you don't decrease the hand size which keeps the others at bay.
I have chances at victory? :P
Hey! Thats the deal I offered you Tamas!
Also, your hand size would be decreased next turn, while you should be keeping people at bay this turn.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 26, 2012, 08:35:15 AM
Also, your hand size would be decreased next turn, while you should be keeping people at bay this turn.
You don't gain a goddamn thing if you go for Antwerp instead of just flagging Amsterdam, but you lose a lot. Your only chance if the game goes on and we leaders keep attriting each other. Reducing my hand size for the next turn works much more against that, than capturing Antwerp would work for it.
Pole badly loses a debate to Cop. SBR up to convert 3 spaces and play.
Sorry Viking I just used up all the 6's on the dice.
Converted Lyon, Bescanon, Metz from the debate.
Finished French NT translation and Liege, Grenoble, Dijon, Orleans and Paris all converted.
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Sorry Viking I just used up all the 6's on the dice.
Converted Lyon, Bescanon, Metz from the debate.
Finished French NT translation and Liege, Grenoble, Dijon, Orleans and Paris all converted.
surely this isnt a problem, as everyone and their grandmas are in war with ME!
Quote from: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Sorry Viking I just used up all the 6's on the dice.
Converted Lyon, Bescanon, Metz from the debate.
Finished French NT translation and Liege, Grenoble, Dijon, Orleans and Paris all converted.
surely this isnt a problem, as everyone and their grandmas are in war with ME!
Agreed.
Also remember I have The Wartburg ulmont. I'm not sure of the proper etiquette with that.
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 01:42:57 PM
Also remember I have The Wartburg ulmont. I'm not sure of the proper etiquette with that.
Ah, right. Unless I ask first you get to cancel after the fact, basically.
Ottomans on the attack
1/3 - fleets to surround malta
2/3 - port raid on malta
3/3 - army 5R+2C to pressburg
The file I sent out has no casualties, Tamas can remove casulaties after he rolls the battle. I'm not playing any battle cards pre battle.
Quote from: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Sorry Viking I just used up all the 6's on the dice.
Converted Lyon, Bescanon, Metz from the debate.
Finished French NT translation and Liege, Grenoble, Dijon, Orleans and Paris all converted.
surely this isnt a problem, as everyone and their grandmas are in war with ME!
That doesn't mean you cannot go after electorates.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 26, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 26, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 26, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Sorry Viking I just used up all the 6's on the dice.
Converted Lyon, Bescanon, Metz from the debate.
Finished French NT translation and Liege, Grenoble, Dijon, Orleans and Paris all converted.
surely this isnt a problem, as everyone and their grandmas are in war with ME!
That doesn't mean you cannot go after electorates.
he can't go after electorates because all his armies are spread out on garrison duty in 6 different keys. The game would look completely different if he had Chin, Alba and 16 combat factors stacked at metz with 1 or 2 dudes in each garrison.
Anyhow, Tamas has nothing to do with Prot religious victory, only the Pope can do anything about that.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 26, 2012, 02:27:18 PM
Anyhow, Tamas has nothing to do with Prot religious victory, only the Pope can do anything about that.
And I...can make it happen!
Quote from: Solmyr on August 26, 2012, 02:27:18 PM
Anyhow, Tamas has nothing to do with Prot religious victory, only the Pope can do anything about that.
Yes he can. He could SD chin into germany and reduce the protties to 3 electorates and killing their duudes which removes their cards and forces them to play their hand secularly.
Even if Prots lose electorates they can still rush to 50 spaces.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 26, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
Even if Prots lose electorates they can still rush to 50 spaces.
Thats where the catholic armies come into play. Spring deploying the chin into germany and then have him move dropping off one factor per area you build a hard to breach conversion barrier since the catholic gets an extra 4 defensive dice.
It is hillarious how each of you think I am ought to reposition completely from your front, letting you rampage unattended.
Anyways, battle is Habsburg loss, not surprisingly. A Turkish corsair is also lost.
Playing HC as event:
Charles and Alva teleport to Besancon
2/5: 2 mercs to Besancon
3/5: Charles, Alva, 4r+2m to Metz, where they'll field attack with the local garrison.
if there is no nastiness thrown at me before this, I'll play Surprise to roll before the Frogs do.
I play swiss mercs to help out the frogs.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Event
#36: 1 / Swiss Mercenaries
Message from Ottoman:
Supplies!
4 swiss mercs appear as if by magic carrying french colors on the spanish flank.
QuoteMessage from Hapsburgs:
Suleimanhitler's roll
Hyperbole much?
:D
2 hits each. Tie goes to defender, but since it's a tie I think any units inside the fort can escape.
Quote from: Maximus on August 27, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
2 hits each. Tie goes to defender, but since it's a tie I think any units inside the fort can escape.
It's the other way around. Tamas can stack the fort if he wants now.
QuoteIf the active player loses the battle but the number of hits scored by both sides is equal, the active player may choose to retreat any units or army leaders that participated in the battle into the fortifications (including units that were part of the relief force that entered the space). The total number of units inside the fortification may never exceed 4 after such a retreat. All other attacking units retreat as per Section 14.1.
Ok, I thought it worked either way. Never mind then.
I guess I'll just lose the 2 mercs I built this round and retreat back to Besancon.
Good move at making it impossible for me to cover potential Ottoman losses against France, Viking! Great move.
Can we get a file? I'm not going to sort through everyone's mercs, I'll just add my own move.
:(
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 11:48:56 AM
I guess I'll just lose the 2 mercs I built this round and retreat back to Besancon.
Good move at making it impossible for me to cover potential Ottoman losses against France, Viking! Great move.
Just paying him back for the card draw and Roxellana. The House of Osman's motto is "An Osmanli always pays his debts." ... or was that "Hear me ululate!".. I keep mixing up the two.
well I felt obliged to give you crap for it :P
You are going to have your hand reduced anyway from Metz or Vienna, no reason for me not to do it. :P
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#92: 3 / Revolt in Egypt
Message from England:
1/3: Henry assaults Antwerp, 11 vs 1.
Any combat cards?
Doesn't tamas still have 2 cp unspent?
Oh right. Well, won't change my move.
oh right.
Last chance to change your mind Solmyr dont be an ass. I will not lose Vienna
Spend your 2 CP?
You have ZERO reasons to take Antwerp.
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
You have ZERO reasons to take Antwerp.
Cards and vp take your pick. And just to twist that "I told you so a bit harder"; I did tell you so, you just played Copernicus instead.
You can read minds now? Just spend those CPs. :P
5/5: 2 mercs to Besancon
I wanted to start rebuilding my fleet but if others can be inconsiderate, I can also let Ottomans pirate themselves to victory :P
Still assaulting.
Low Countries are conquered and Henry moves on to Brussels. Max up.
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
I wanted to start rebuilding my fleet but if others can be inconsiderate, I can also let Ottomans pirate themselves to victory :P
I made you an offer that could have stopped the pirate fleet. You refused to give me anything in return.
Home card for ops:
3/5 3 mercs in St Dizier
4/5 3 mercs from St Dizier to Metz
5/5 assault Metz
#28: 1 / Siege Mining
Message from France:
I make it 9 french dice to 6 Hapsburg. Tamas to play cards and roll
cannot I intercept into metz when you move in?
Quote from: Maximus on August 27, 2012, 01:43:49 PM
I made you an offer that could have stopped the pirate fleet. You refused to give me anything in return.
Lemme see, tamas could, for the measly cost of metz and letting the pope bear the brunt of my piracy had to face only england?
Diplomacy fail FTL.
Quote from: Viking on August 27, 2012, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus on August 27, 2012, 01:43:49 PM
I made you an offer that could have stopped the pirate fleet. You refused to give me anything in return.
Lemme see, tamas could, for the measly cost of metz and letting the pope bear the brunt of my piracy had to face only england?
Diplomacy fail FTL.
my only diplomacy fail was trusting Solmyr
I lose a key I lose a card. Antwerp was the only vulnerable one. And the Pope needs his hand to stop the Protties, something which you have not considered. I can take piracy hits, he can't.
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
my only diplomacy fail was trusting Solmyr
eh? that was a pretty clearly telegraphed backstab. That should have been pretty obvious when he made peace with france and spring deployed to calais.
Quote from: Viking on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
my only diplomacy fail was trusting Solmyr
eh? that was a pretty clearly telegraphed backstab. That should have been pretty obvious when he made peace with france and spring deployed to calais.
Aaaaaand, which one was before MY negotiations and announcements?
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
cannot I intercept into metz when you move in?
I think no.
QuoteFormations moving into a space that already contains land
units may only be intercepted if the intercepting units belong
to the same power as the units in the destination space, or
to a power allied to the units in the destination space. Such
an interception is not allowed if there are units under siege
(from any power) at the start of the active formation's move.
Quote from: Viking on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 27, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
my only diplomacy fail was trusting Solmyr
eh? that was a pretty clearly telegraphed backstab. That should have been pretty obvious when he made peace with france and spring deployed to calais.
I was actually considering continuing the war with France, especially as they couldn't really harm me in return. Of course, then Tamas said I should fight France in return for nothing. Even then I was not sure which way to play my HC right until Copernicus. Had Tamas actually done something against France in the first 4 turns instead of making me do everything, I might have been more well-disposed towards him.
Waiting on Tamas to resolve siege of Metz.
plz people copy-paste relevant card text when playing events, you save the search-around in the discard pile for the rest of us :P
2 hits each. Siege holds. The French are screwered.
how do you get six dice for the defender?
Quote from: Viking on August 28, 2012, 05:00:24 AM
how do you get six dice for the defender?
4 defenders, one leader, one dice for defender amounts to six dice.
Quote from: Tamas on August 28, 2012, 06:33:58 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 28, 2012, 05:00:24 AM
how do you get six dice for the defender?
4 defenders, one leader, one dice for defender amounts to six dice.
gotcha, forgot the leader.
So Tamas forgot to add the swiss mercs last turn so I'm 4 units short there. Let me spell it out here and you can double check.
Francis moves to Metz with 7r 1m, he loses 1r 1m in the attack leaving 6r
Charles counterattacks, 4 mercs are added and 2 lost, we are now at 6r 2m
I add 3m with my HC, it should be 6r 5m which makes 10 dice, 6 for units, 1 for leader, 3 for event.
Did I miss something? I already rolled an extra die, I'll roll another now.
Sounds right to me, I was wondering where all the French troops went in CB.
It's still 2 hits each. File sent, over to Ulmont
#56: 5 / Papal Inquisition
Message from Protestant:
2/5 2 mercs to Koln
5/5 Phillip 2r2m to Augsberg
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#77: 2 / Fountain of Youth
Message from Ottoman:
1/2 flag pressburg
2/2 move to vienna
I'm presuming tamas doesn't want to fight in the open, so I'll just send the file.
inserting and twisting the dagger. At least I know he doesn't have anymore combat cards. Appreciation to Max for tapping Tamas' combat cards.
2/3: 2 mercs to Besancon
3/3: Henry, Alba, 4r4m to Metz, 2nd round of Relieving Action
I am playing Field Arty unless the French run away.
I need to cut an open way toward the treacherous Englishmen.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 07:16:36 AM
:rolleyes:
I noticed that too, he didn't seem to consider the froggy army much more than a speed bump.
Though, I was a bit shocked to find he still had a combat card.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfreewallpapers.net%2Ffantasy%2Fwallpapers%2Fred-berserker.jpg&hash=266f596a990550277f9b2722d15ca402e99dc887)
save the "righteous gamboling on the ashen skulls of our enemies" until you have ashen enemy skulls to righteously gambol on.
AGAIN French win, 3 hits vs 2. out of the 5 survivors, 1 Habsburg merc and 1 regular retreat inside the fort, the rest goes back to Besancon with the leaders
DAMN THIS CRAP WTF! 2 hits?!!!! SRSLY?!!!
You can't reinforce the fort unless you tie on the dice
:ultra:
Serves you right for freeloading and ignoring France for 4 turns. :nelson:
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
Serves you right for freeloading and ignoring France for 4 turns. :nelson:
What did YOU do against him? Right, you captured Antwerp.
I actually, you know, attacked French-held keys. Even captured one. Of course, English invasion of mainland France is rather difficult if France is free to throw all its armies north.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from England:
1/3: Assault Brussels, 6 vs 2.
Any more combat cards?
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 09:22:05 AM
I actually, you know, attacked French-held keys. Even captured one. Of course, English invasion of mainland France is rather difficult if France is free to throw all its armies north.
That's a pretty picture you painted on the fact that you needed several turns to wrestle Edinburgh from his grasp :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 09:24:49 AM
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#69: 3 / Auld Alliance
Message from England:
1/3: Assault Brussels, 6 vs 2.
Any more combat cards?
nope
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2012, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 09:22:05 AM
I actually, you know, attacked French-held keys. Even captured one. Of course, English invasion of mainland France is rather difficult if France is free to throw all its armies north.
That's a pretty picture you painted on the fact that you needed several turns to wrestle Edinburgh from his grasp :P
Yeah, because he was free to spend all his cards on me while you did nothing. :P
Fall of Brussels and Liege finish off English conquest of the Low Countries. Over to Max.
This is where Tamas and Viking gnash teeth about dice rolls? :P
#104: 3 / Trace Italienne
Message from France:
1/3 assault Metz 5 vs 4
cards?
Btw, Luther should be committed after playing Wartburg.
no more cards :P roll it
Once again Tamas blew all his cards on useless crap.
Metz falls for the loss of 1 French merc.
2-3/3 2 mercs in Paris
Over to Ulmont, there'll be help coming with my last card, unless Tamas forces me to spend it
Tamas, you might still manage to prevent a Protestant VP victory this turn if you spend your last cards on retaking an electorate.
Servetus for a Papal VP and to force the Protestants to discard, which is a nice combination.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 09:33:51 AM
Fall of Brussels and Liege finish off English conquest of the Low Countries. Over to Max.
This is where Tamas and Viking gnash teeth about dice rolls? :P
I've been looking for footage from Gettysburgh of the scene where the union soldiers jeer the confederates retreating after picketts charge with shouts of "Fredricksburg!". But i've held off looking too hard 'cause I know if I do I'll end my streak of merely slightly below average results.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
Tamas, you might still manage to prevent a Protestant VP victory this turn if you spend your last cards on retaking an electorate.
Ok France gives me Metz back and I'll do just that.
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2012, 02:12:25 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
Tamas, you might still manage to prevent a Protestant VP victory this turn if you spend your last cards on retaking an electorate.
Ok France gives me Metz back and I'll do just that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTc3zcnIZOw
?
Tamas is about to reach slargosian levels of ragequit. Which is odd, because based on the relative success of the powers in this game, I should be the one ragequitting.
Discarded and assaulted and controlled Augsburg.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 02:29:30 PM
Tamas is about to reach slargosian levels of ragequit. Which is odd, because based on the relative success of the powers in this game, I should be the one ragequitting.
Oh don't worry, I will save the game for you people.
But its crazy that all the offers I have received this turn were "clearly give up your chance at winning, in exchange I will give you time to win the game for me", yet I am supposed to lean on my sword.
This isn't an "everyone but Habsburg tries to win, while Habsburg makes sure it takes as long a game as possible" game you know.
While Tamas is threatening to ragelose if we stop trying to win janissaries sneak upstream from vienna and drop dead horses in the drinking water.
Quote2 / Unsanitary Camp
A single stack of land units is stricken by disease. One-third (rounded up) of the units are removed from play (as chosen by their owner). At least half of the losses must be from regular troops (if possible). If multiple major powers have units in a single space, only one of the major powers can be affected by this event. Allied minor power units are considered to be a part of the stack with the major power that controls them
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Event
#107: 2 / Unsanitary Camp
Message from Ottoman:
The garrison of vienna is too big. 4/3 = 1 1/3 which rounds up to 2. Tamas must remove 2 garrison factors from vienna at least one of which must be a regular (if possible).
No file.
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 02:29:30 PM
Tamas is about to reach slargosian levels of ragequit. Which is odd, because based on the relative success of the powers in this game, I should be the one ragequitting.
Oh don't worry, I will save the game for you people.
But its crazy that all the offers I have received this turn were "clearly give up your chance at winning, in exchange I will give you time to win the game for me", yet I am supposed to lean on my sword.
This isn't an "everyone but Habsburg tries to win, while Habsburg makes sure it takes as long a game as possible" game you know.
I'm sure everyone is trying to win the game, or at least get close. You might want to ask yourself how you became a target for several people at once.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 29, 2012, 02:29:30 PM
Tamas is about to reach slargosian levels of ragequit. Which is odd, because based on the relative success of the powers in this game, I should be the one ragequitting.
Oh don't worry, I will save the game for you people.
But its crazy that all the offers I have received this turn were "clearly give up your chance at winning, in exchange I will give you time to win the game for me", yet I am supposed to lean on my sword.
This isn't an "everyone but Habsburg tries to win, while Habsburg makes sure it takes as long a game as possible" game you know.
I'm sure everyone is trying to win the game, or at least get close. You might want to ask yourself how you became a target for several people at once.
1) I am big enough
2) they fail to realise that if they make me collapse they will not win
do ur turn tamas
and remember to remove two dudes defending vienna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dhD9zR6hk
Hey, guess what! France and England closed off my path toward the defeatable electorates!
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Hapsburgs:
2 mercs to Trier
2 mercs to Prague
Quote from: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
Hey, guess what! France and England closed off my path toward the defeatable electorates!
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Hapsburgs:
2 mercs to Trier
2 mercs to Prague
Besancon -> Strasburg -> Worms -> Mainz
that is the closest, the blue and red hordes close the short cut which makes köln equidistant.
Quote from: Viking on August 30, 2012, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
Hey, guess what! France and England closed off my path toward the defeatable electorates!
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Hapsburgs:
2 mercs to Trier
2 mercs to Prague
Besancon -> Strasburg -> Worms -> Mainz
that is the closest, the blue and red hordes close the short cut which makes köln equidistant.
Thanks. that's 4CP. Moving 4 units. Next to 6 Protestant ones. Then stopping and letting those 6 Protties to build up and come after them. Great plan. :P
Quote from: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 02:31:55 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 30, 2012, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
Hey, guess what! France and England closed off my path toward the defeatable electorates!
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Hapsburgs:
2 mercs to Trier
2 mercs to Prague
Besancon -> Strasburg -> Worms -> Mainz
that is the closest, the blue and red hordes close the short cut which makes köln equidistant.
Thanks. that's 4CP. Moving 4 units. Next to 6 Protestant ones. Then stopping and letting those 6 Protties to build up and come after them. Great plan. :P
That's 3 cp not 4 cp, you start at besancon with 5 units not 4 units. If you spend another 1 you can get the 2 mercs at trier as well. Your army will fight at 8 dice against 6 only if he manages to intercept at worms with his 0 leader.
And I abandon Besancon my last foothold in western europe (thanks Solmyr!), and put my remaining leaders at the mercy of a 50-50 battle. Thanks, but no thanks.
I told you people this would happen if you didn't let me deal with the Protestants. You didn't let me. Now see my prophecy unfold. :P
Quote from: Tamas on August 30, 2012, 02:42:29 AM
And I abandon Besancon my last foothold in western europe (thanks Solmyr!), and put my remaining leaders at the mercy of a 50-50 battle. Thanks, but no thanks.
I told you people this would happen if you didn't let me deal with the Protestants. You didn't let me. Now see my prophecy unfold. :P
You lost all credibility when you declared for 4 turns that you needed to be left alone to deal with the french and then did diddly squat when
1 - solmyr, in good faith, started a risky invasion which ended in catastrophy.
2 - I managed to lose turns trying to take budapest
instead you took metz, made peace with france and took algiers. .
All the electorates are equidistant from Besancon. You could freely leave it - what cards is Max going to take it with? And I can't even get there.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Event
#57: 2 / Philip of Hesse's Bigamy
Message from England:
Protestant player must either remove Philip of Hesse from the game or discard one card (chosen at random).
Sbr can discard either Philip or his last non-home card. No file.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 30, 2012, 04:08:42 AM
All the electorates are equidistant from Besancon. You could freely leave it - what cards is Max going to take it with? And I can't even get there.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Event
#57: 2 / Philip of Hesse's Bigamy
Message from England:
Protestant player must either remove Philip of Hesse from the game or discard one card (chosen at random).
Sbr can discard either Philip or his last non-home card. No file.
Ah, finally. TAMAS UNLEASHED! Let us see, can he manage to take one undefended electorate? Or will he yet again fail and spend all his cp building mercs in far away backwaters or sending conquests as usual.
Oh and btw, Tamas' move is illegal - he cannot build units in Trier, it's not his home space. Nor in Prague, because only Hungarian regulars can be built there.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 30, 2012, 05:18:07 AM
Oh and btw, Tamas' move is illegal - he cannot build units in Trier, it's not his home space. Nor in Prague, because only Hungarian regulars can be built there.
read the event text for foreign recruits.
Oh right, thought Tamas was using CP. Didn't he himself post that we should paste in the event text when playing them? :P
Quote from: Solmyr on August 30, 2012, 05:56:22 AM
Oh right, thought Tamas was using CP. Didn't he himself post that we should paste in the event text when playing them? :P
btw, you do know you can do your turn now.
Quote from: Viking on August 30, 2012, 06:03:05 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on August 30, 2012, 05:56:22 AM
Oh right, thought Tamas was using CP. Didn't he himself post that we should paste in the event text when playing them? :P
btw, you do know you can do your turn now.
He did:
Quote from: Solmyr on August 30, 2012, 04:08:42 AM
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Event
#57: 2 / Philip of Hesse's Bigamy
Message from England:
Protestant player must either remove Philip of Hesse from the game or discard one card (chosen at random).
Sbr can discard either Philip or his last non-home card. No file.
Well it was fun Phillip but sorry you gotta go.
Can someone Remove Phillip for me in their file?
EDIT: I'm off to bed now, be back in ~7 hours.
After another debate, the Pope converts to Calvinism and moves to Scotland.
Quote from: ulmont on August 30, 2012, 09:17:55 AM
After another debate, the Pope converts to Calvinism and moves to Scotland.
:hug: I know just how you feel. On your way visit the cemetaries at the foot of the walls of buda.
The Scots are good Catholics though. :P
Flipped York and Lincoln.
#105: 5 / Treachery
Message from Protestant:
+5 CP to English Full Bible Translation
Quote from: sbr on August 30, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
Flipped York and Lincoln.
#105: 5 / Treachery
Message from Protestant:
+5 CP to English Full Bible Translation
Your spaces have to be in France, since that's where the debate was.
Quote from: ulmont on August 30, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 30, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
Flipped York and Lincoln.
#105: 5 / Treachery
Message from Protestant:
+5 CP to English Full Bible Translation
Your spaces have to be in France, since that's where the debate was.
Oh yeah. :blush: Your talk of moving to Scotland distracted me.
I flipped Orleans and Paris back, new file with a fix sent.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#54: 3 / Potosi Silver Mines
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Assault vienna with 5 dice against 3
3/3 Piracy in Ionian Sea 1 AP dice 3 Piracy dice
Assaulting vienna and piracy in IS. I'll roll the piracy dice, Tamas rolls the assault.
Zero Piracy hits, one corsair killed. Sending file. Tamas, roll the assault and play cards (if any)
QuoteHapsburgs: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 8
2
1
1
2
2
4
1
4
Message from Hapsburgs:
first 5 are ottomans, rest are defs
no comment :lol:
#75: 3 / Erasmus
Message from Hapsburgs:
If played on Turn 1 or 2, Protestant player makes 4 Reformation attempts targeting all language zones. If played on Turn 3 or later, Papal player makes 4 Counter Reformation attempts targeting all language zones.
Roll on, Il Papa!
I'll be passing out the turn unless something nasty happens.
Quote from: Viking on August 30, 2012, 04:33:27 AM
Ah, finally. TAMAS UNLEASHED! Let us see, can he manage to take one undefended electorate? Or will he yet again fail and spend all his cp building mercs in far away backwaters or sending conquests as usual.
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 01:50:27 AM
#75: 3 / Erasmus
Message from Hapsburgs:
If played on Turn 1 or 2, Protestant player makes 4 Reformation attempts targeting all language zones. If played on Turn 3 or later, Papal player makes 4 Counter Reformation attempts targeting all language zones.
Roll on, Il Papa!
I'll be passing out the turn unless something nasty happens.
oh, sigh..... so much for taking that electorate..... looks like france and england will have to do that next turn...
I told you I am not going to spend about 6CPs in two rounds just so I can have a 50-50 chance at not being wiped out by Protestants. Blame France and England.
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 02:40:32 AM
I told you I am not going to spend about 6CPs in two rounds just so I can have a 50-50 chance at not being wiped out by Protestants. Blame France and England.
An undefended electorate and you have 7 dice! In my case that is guaranteed failure, but you seem to have average dice luck when not fighting me.
QuoteEngland: Play Card as Operations
#93: 3 / Revolt in Ireland
Message from England:
England will place a second colony and pass the turn.
Over to Ulmont to roll Erasmus and make his play.
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2012, 03:21:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 02:40:32 AM
I told you I am not going to spend about 6CPs in two rounds just so I can have a 50-50 chance at not being wiped out by Protestants. Blame France and England.
An undefended electorate and you have 7 dice! In my case that is guaranteed failure, but you seem to have average dice luck when not fighting me.
ok let's try this again: There is a Protestant army 1.5 times bigger than what I have left after the French agression.
As expected, losing on ties does not make for good Counter-Reformation. 1 space converts, Fuggers for 2 cards, file sent, off to sbr.
Isn't Paul III pope? You should be winning ties then according to the card manifest I have.
Quote from: Maximus on August 31, 2012, 08:59:49 AM
Isn't Paul III pope? You should be winning ties then according to the card manifest I have.
Wait, you're right. I checked to make sure Paul hadn't been played but forgot he was automatic after turn 4. Only affects Besancon.
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2012, 03:21:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 02:40:32 AM
I told you I am not going to spend about 6CPs in two rounds just so I can have a 50-50 chance at not being wiped out by Protestants. Blame France and England.
An undefended electorate and you have 7 dice! In my case that is guaranteed failure, but you seem to have average dice luck when not fighting me.
ok let's try this again: There is a Protestant army 1.5 times bigger than what I have left after the French agression.
1 - you have 5 factors
2 - he has 6
3 - you have a leader capable of leading 10 troops which gives 2 extra dice in combat
4 - he has no leader
you have 5 dudes with a 2 tactical leader, he has 6 dudes or which only 4 can move as a formation
Right. It would totally make sense for me to do that risky dash. You guys made the choice regarding Protestants when you ganged up on me. Now live with it.
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Right. It would totally make sense for me to do that risky dash. You guys made the choice regarding Protestants when you ganged up on me. Now live with it.
Not me, I offered you peace but you refused, preferring to fight me at sea rather than letting me pirate the pope.
Quote from: Viking on August 31, 2012, 09:21:09 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Right. It would totally make sense for me to do that risky dash. You guys made the choice regarding Protestants when you ganged up on me. Now live with it.
Not me, I offered you peace but you refused, preferring to fight me at sea rather than letting me pirate the pope.
Yes. Took one for the team, protecting the Pope, from your rampant selfishness. :P
Play Home Card for CP and finish English Bible Translation.
I then proceeded to get kicked in the crotch 6 straight times on conversion attempts.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#31: 2 / Foul Weather
Message from Ottoman:
Sigh, bad dice mean I have to play this for CP
1/2 assault vienna 5 dice vs 3 dice
2/2 build 1 Cav in istanbul
I'm forced to waste a perfectly good event to try and get vienna before it is too late. I'm rolling the dice, tamas already declined to use cards on the last assault which had no result.
QuoteRequest: 6-sided die x 5
5
4
5
3
4
Message from Ottoman:
Ottoman assault on vienna, hits on 5 and 6
OK I manage to hit twice and kill the remaining defenders
but then this happens, not enough to destroy me and I can take cavalry as casualties
QuoteOttoman: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 3
6
6
6
Message from Ottoman:
Hapsburg defense of vienna, hits on 5 and 6.
ok, seriously people
WTF?In other news I take vienna.
FYI I will be suing the Ottomans next turn which will give them 3VPs since I do need Vienna, after England felt like robbing me a key (France was sort of understandable).
Quote from: Tamas on August 31, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
FYI I will be suing the Ottomans next turn which will give them 3VPs since I do need Vienna, after England felt like robbing me a key (France was sort of understandable).
You do realize that Algiers is an ottoman home space don't you?
Quote from: sbr on August 31, 2012, 01:53:35 PM
Play Home Card for CP and finish English Bible Translation.
I then proceeded to get kicked in the crotch 6 straight times on conversion attempts.
Shrewsbury should convert, no? You rolled a 6 at +1 vs the Papal plain 6. And you win ties in target zone anyway (Paul only wins ties in Counter-Ref).
Quote from: Solmyr on August 31, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 31, 2012, 01:53:35 PM
Play Home Card for CP and finish English Bible Translation.
I then proceeded to get kicked in the crotch 6 straight times on conversion attempts.
Shrewsbury should convert, no? You rolled a 6 at +1 vs the Papal plain 6. And you win ties in target zone anyway (Paul only wins ties in Counter-Ref).
Well shit, I fucked that up pretty well, and getting Shrewsbury would have changed everything.
I didn't realize that Paul only won ties during C-R attempts. I thought the +1 meant I got an extra die in my 6 reformation attempts, but then I forgot to use that extra die. :D
So had I paid attention and remembered the rules I would have gotten Shrewsbury (7 v 6), Strasburg (5 v 4), and Amsterdam (5 v 4) on my original roles. I would have made at least 2 more conversion attempts in England had I gotten Shrewsbury, but it was my mistake and it would probably be too much to ask to redo it.*
*And yes that is my subtle way of asking.
Redo it as you like, sbr.
OK. The rolls for Shrewsbury and Lincoln will stay. I will make 4 more attempts, hopefully, all in England.
Alright redid my conversions. I also moved the markers I forgot to move when I rage-closed the map after my turn.
Tamas is passing so solmyr, ulmont, then I play my home card and then ulmont plays two more cards.
Since Tamas refused to take an undefended electorate out of spite the continuation of the game depends on ulmont converting 5 areas with his 3 remaining cards.
I'm passing, nothing I can do anyway except convert more English spaces. :P
I'm playing my home card to place 4 regulars in istanbul. I've already marked it as played. So you can also end the turn.
So ulmont can just spend his three cards and try to stop the protestants from winning. He can place my regulars in istanbul when he does his file eventually.
Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 03:29:29 AM
Since Tamas refused to take an undefended electorate out of spite the continuation of the game depends on ulmont converting 5 areas with his 3 remaining cards.
it wasnt out of spite, I was not able to
Quote from: Tamas on September 01, 2012, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 03:29:29 AM
Since Tamas refused to take an undefended electorate out of spite the continuation of the game depends on ulmont converting 5 areas with his 3 remaining cards.
it wasnt out of spite, I was not able to willing
fyp
Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 06:41:22 AM
So ulmont can just spend his three cards and try to stop the protestants from winning. He can place my regulars in istanbul when he does his file eventually.
Forgot your regulars, but made 8 of 9 counter-reformation attempts.
Quote from: ulmont on September 01, 2012, 08:38:24 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 06:41:22 AM
So ulmont can just spend his three cards and try to stop the protestants from winning. He can place my regulars in istanbul when he does his file eventually.
Forgot your regulars, but made 8 of 9 counter-reformation attempts.
ka-ching, so the game continues.
Ottoman Winter
2 regulars remain in Vienna, rest return to Istanbul. Fleet to Coron. Ottoman Hand Size 5.
Sent out a file with free regulars added (including my own).
I'll go about resolving new world then
- french conquest
- extra cards from colonies
Frogs roll 12, get inca
English winter is: 2 mercs to Brussels, rest to London.
Hand size is 5 plus any colonies.
Viking, why are you rolling end of turn? You know your dice suck. :P
You have no idea how much they suck.
Summary
French get Inca
All colonies except Puerto Rico fail
Inca is depleted.
The new world now consists of many many dead indians and a few starved spaniards on puerto rico.
QuoteOttoman: Change Hand Size
Ottoman: from 6 to 5
Hapsburgs: from 7 to 5
England: from 5 to 5
France: from 6 to 6
Papacy: from 4 to 3
Protestant: from 6 to 5
Sol, can you double check these numbers?
Pope has a -1 card, so am reducing his hand by one more...
QuoteOttoman: Change Hand Size
Ottoman: from 5 to 5
Hapsburgs: from 5 to 5
England: from 5 to 5
France: from 6 to 6
Papacy: from 3 to 2
Protestant: from 5 to 5
Can somebody double check these numbers and then end the turn.
Unfortunately I didn't have a conquest out, so I don't get that card.
My winter: Francis +4 to Paris. 2 mercs from Marseilles to Paris
Quote from: Maximus on September 02, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Unfortunately I didn't have a conquest out, so I don't get that card.
My winter: Francis +4 to Paris. 2 mercs from Marseilles to Paris
eh? well, it was on the cb file. we'll fix that.
stuff like this is the reason I keep asking for SOMEBODY to confirm my hand size math before drawing new cards.
OK, am I correct now?
QuoteOttoman: Change Hand Size
Ottoman: from 5 to 5
Hapsburgs: from 5 to 5
England: from 5 to 5
France: from 6 to 5
Papacy: from 2 to 2
Protestant: from 5 to 5
Pope gets 3 cards, -1 from marker and +1 from Paul.
Still need Habsburg winter.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 02, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Pope gets 3 cards, -1 from marker and +1 from Paul.
Still need Habsburg winter.
doesn't paul get to save 1 card and no extra?
Nope, he gets 1 to both, that's why he's the best Pope.
You can see him in CB under turn 3 cards. Next one is Julius on turn 7 (if we get that far) who gets 1 card extra but cannot save any.
I will move 2r from Augsburg to Mainz for winter.
ok I'm ending the turn
The sublime porte is open for business and accepting petitions for benefices.
Habsburg winter is still missing.
sent out a file with all winters and eot except the missing hapsburg one
Also, Sbr can place Maurice where he wants and turn 6 debaters should be added at some point.
England is willing to talk to all her neighbors.
WHY U NO TALK TO ME?
btw, I stopped Max from almost winning by not giving him the two vp I accidentally gave him earlier.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 02, 2012, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 02, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
WHY U NO TALK TO ME?
Pakis go home.
Bradford? You want me to go to Bradford in Yorkshire? Cuz thats the only place on the map where Pakis live.
Well, I can talk to you if you think you have anything of interest to me. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on September 02, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
Well, I can talk to you if you think you have anything of interest to me. :P
I've got shit of interest to you, but do you have anything of interest to me?
My winter is about my 2 excess mercs, one of which dies in the hostile road back to Valladoid. Screw you guys.
I am letting you guys know that I will surrender to the Ottomans and buy back Vienna. I'll buy it back for a card but still that will put Ottos on 23 VPs, so I would advise the player with the second biggest mediterranean navy (France) to declare war on the Ottomans and stop them from pirating themselves to two easy VPs.
Now reading the rules, if the leaders don't get attrited away in Winter, I'll move Charles back to Valladoid as well.
Quote from: Tamas on September 03, 2012, 01:59:35 AM
My winter is about my 2 excess mercs, one of which dies in the hostile road back to Valladoid. Screw you guys.
can you send a file?
your winter is the only one missing.
Quote from: Viking on September 02, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on September 02, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
Well, I can talk to you if you think you have anything of interest to me. :P
I've got shit of interest to you, but do you have anything of interest to me?
Nope. In fact, my hand could not be more uninteresting to you.
I'm pretty much finished with my diplomacy other than public diplomacy
- england needs to dow the protestants and take a few electorates to keep the protestants from winning
- france needs to dow me so that he can chase down my fleet and preventing me from pirating myself to victory
- tamas needs to take milan so france can't chateaux himself to within one key of victory
- il papa needs to get his act together and reduce the size of protestantistan
- luthor et.al. need to stop trying to win the game until after I have already won it
capische?
two days is enough for diplomacy
can we have tamas winter and we can start declarations, unless somebody has any objections?
I still don't know what the tamasite winter is.
I see two mercs in cologne and one overstacked merc in besancon that need re-location, not two guys. One of them can go to prague. What is your winter?
Once I hear that I can declare my diplomacy stage one.
Isn't cologne a fort I am free to enter now? Meaning my guys can camp there ad infinitum.
And, my Winter is: my Emperor, plus 1 merc from Besancon to Valladoid, and the other merc dies due to attrition.
Quote from: Tamas on September 05, 2012, 01:24:40 AM
Isn't cologne a fort I am free to enter now? Meaning my guys can camp there ad infinitum.
And, my Winter is: my Emperor, plus 1 merc from Besancon to Valladoid, and the other merc dies due to attrition.
I only see one merc needing return, not two. The only way I thought you thought you had two mercs needing return is if you thought.. oh.. well.. never mind
I see only 1 merc in besancon not two. Can you explain where this second one comes from?
ok so only Charles returns to Valladoid, as that merc dies of attrition
The Ottomans announce no special negotiations just accepting all and any gifts and tribute anybody might wish to make.
Tamas, if you are going to surrender to me or solmyr you do so before the declaration of war segment.
I thought that surrenders are before normal diplomatic declarations
The sequence is
Negotiations (9.1) informal deals lending mercs, ships, cards and informal peace.
Peace (9.3) formal surrenders involving war victory VP and buying back spaces
Ransom (9.4) buying back imprisoned leaders
Excommunication (9.5) paying to remove excommunication
War (9.6) declarations of war
so first it is deals where cards and mercs are given, ships are lent and negotiated peace deals
then you formally surrender
so you get to see what deals I make before you surrender to me (or solmyr)
Viking you have to actually announce who you're requesting stuff from, and what you're requesting, unles you're saying you're requesting two cards from the rest of the board in ten separate transactions, which is a bit gamy.
Quote from: ulmont on September 05, 2012, 07:09:21 AM
Viking you have to actually announce who you're requesting stuff from, and what you're requesting, unles you're saying you're requesting two cards from the rest of the board in ten separate transactions, which is a bit gamy.
OK then, I'll limit myself to requesting two cards from you then. C'mon, you know you want to, you'll hate yourself in the morning but you know you want to.
n.b. that actually works really really well as a closer when she is vacillating.
England is ready to proceed unless someone else wants to talk to us.
Waiting for Tamas to annouce deals then the rest to do the same, then tamas to surrender and then declarations of war.
I announce:
-accepting Liege and Amsterdam from England
-offering peace and alliance to France
-offering alliance to the Pope (on general principle)
England will give Liege and Amsterdam to Habsburgs.
France will accept the peace and alliance with the Hapsburgs
B
Grant 2 cards to Ottomans.
Accept alliance with Hapsburgs.
:blink: The Pope is Muslim now?
Quote from: Solmyr on September 06, 2012, 03:18:21 PM
:blink: The Pope is Muslim now?
Anything to help with converting the Protestants.
The Ottomans can convert the Protestants?
Quote from: Solmyr on September 06, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
The Ottomans can convert the Protestants?
1. I was saying the Pope would convert to Islam at this point if it would help in converting the Protestants.
2. It is possible, nay probable, that the two cards were not given for nothing.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 06, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
The Ottomans can convert the Protestants?
Ottomans can take and burn wittenberg and berlin :contract:
but seriously, what with tamas surrendering, it was either this or turks in rome.
n.b. BTW ulmont, nice cards. I accepted the deal expecting to get crap cards, but was pleasantly surprised.
wating on sbr's diplomacy, then tamas' surrender then Max' dow on me and solmyr's dow on sbr.
Did tamas and sol intend not to make peace informally while sol returned tamas a fort and a regular home space?
I got nothing
Tamas, you scum, make your surrender now!
Remember, Algiers is an Ottoman home space and if you buy back vienna my two dudes in vienna move to budapest.
Quote from: ulmont on September 06, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Grant 2 cards to Ottomans.
Accept alliance with Hapsburgs.
hey, you owe me a card dude!
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 01:46:44 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 06, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Grant 2 cards to Ottomans.
Accept alliance with Hapsburgs.
hey, you owe me a card dude!
backstabbed much?
Well, Tamas, do you surrender?
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 01:46:44 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 06, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Grant 2 cards to Ottomans.
Accept alliance with Hapsburgs.
hey, you owe me a card dude!
I'm sorry you've forgotten how the rules and impulse order work, but I can't give you a card unless you ask for it, and all you wanted was an alliance per your announcement.
ffs
Tamas is up to sue for peace.
Btw, technically speaking, Max didn't give Ferdinand back. :P
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 07:51:27 AM
ffs
Perhaps if you asked to amend your announcement to request a card from me, and privately reminded me what our deal was, I could amend my response to give you a card though, even if you are kind of dumb. :moon:
I only remembered this when I saw your announcement of giving your hand to the Sultan :P
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 08:28:42 AM
I only remembered this when I saw your announcement of giving your hand to the Sultan :P
I do still have one card left, though.
well if the others are okay with me adding that to my announcement, then sure I'll do that.
Otherwise, I am surrendering to the Ottomans buying back Vienna for a card, and surrendering to England, buying back my key and my fort for 2 additional VPs.
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
well if the others are okay with me adding that to my announcement, then sure I'll do that.
Otherwise, I am surrendering to the Ottomans buying back Vienna for a card, and surrendering to England, buying back my key and my fort for 2 additional VPs.
Yay!!! more cards and VP and home keys!! I get Algiers back as well!
Quote from: Viking on September 07, 2012, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
well if the others are okay with me adding that to my announcement, then sure I'll do that.
Otherwise, I am surrendering to the Ottomans buying back Vienna for a card, and surrendering to England, buying back my key and my fort for 2 additional VPs.
Yay!!! more cards and VP and home keys!! I get Algiers back as well!
woa! hold your horses! if you get Algiers back, you can kiss your surrender good bye.
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 07, 2012, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
well if the others are okay with me adding that to my announcement, then sure I'll do that.
Otherwise, I am surrendering to the Ottomans buying back Vienna for a card, and surrendering to England, buying back my key and my fort for 2 additional VPs.
Yay!!! more cards and VP and home keys!! I get Algiers back as well!
woa! hold your horses! if you get Algiers back, you can kiss your surrender good bye.
I've been cryptically remind you that algiers is an ottoman home space ever since you declared you were going to surrender.
Ah right, you should have been less cryptic then :P
No surrender, that's all I have to say then. I still surrender to England like I described
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Ah right, you should have been less cryptic then :P
No surrender, that's all I have to say then. I still surrender to England like I described
C'mon tamas, you are running out of places for me to conquer....
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Ah right, you should have been less cryptic then :P
No surrender, that's all I have to say then. I still surrender to England like I described
Dude, Solymr told you that too.
Well... moving on
I declare war on nobody. I have one enemy and that is all I need.
Quote from: ulmont on September 07, 2012, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 07, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Ah right, you should have been less cryptic then :P
No surrender, that's all I have to say then. I still surrender to England like I described
Dude, Solymr told you that too.
and here I was thinking I only needed two piracy hits without losing an undefended algiers to france to get to 25 points if tamas surrendered.
now I'm just as far as ever.
Tamas cannot declare any new wars, and England does not either.
Well, if France DoW Ottomans, France will win, unless Viking has enough sense to concentrate on protecting his coastal town instead of coming after me.
If France stays in peace, Ottomans will win.
Waiting on Max' declaration of war, then ulmont and sbrs.
It's comforting to hear that Tamas has declared me public enemy number one, since this is a guarantee that Tamas will do fuck-all against me.
Not going to use my home cards to DoW anybody, thanks.
Next up you guys need to run another napoleon game. :ph34r:
Quote from: JacobL on September 08, 2012, 08:39:59 PM
Next up you guys need to run another napoleon game. :ph34r:
I was just talking about the last languish EiA game and the clusterfuck it was last night.
Quote from: Viking on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: JacobL on September 08, 2012, 08:39:59 PM
Next up you guys need to run another napoleon game. :ph34r:
I was just talking about the last languish EiA game and the clusterfuck it was last night.
We do much better with The Napoleonic Wars, though.
Waiting on Max and sbr to DOW.
Quote from: ulmont on September 08, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 08, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: JacobL on September 08, 2012, 08:39:59 PM
Next up you guys need to run another napoleon game. :ph34r:
I was just talking about the last languish EiA game and the clusterfuck it was last night.
We do much better with The Napoleonic Wars, though.
That latest TNW game started so well. :P
I will DoW the ottomans, however anti-piracy will be of limited effect without habsburg assistance.
Quote from: Maximus on September 09, 2012, 03:41:19 PM
I will DoW the ottomans, however anti-piracy will be of limited effect without habsburg assistance.
and we've been such good friends so far in the game... sigh...
No Dow from luther.
Quote from: Viking on September 09, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Maximus on September 09, 2012, 03:41:19 PM
I will DoW the ottomans, however anti-piracy will be of limited effect without habsburg assistance.
and we've been such good friends so far in the game... sigh...
Can't have you harassing the pope, he has important work to do.
Quote from: Maximus on September 09, 2012, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 09, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Maximus on September 09, 2012, 03:41:19 PM
I will DoW the ottomans, however anti-piracy will be of limited effect without habsburg assistance.
and we've been such good friends so far in the game... sigh...
Can't have you harassing the pope, he has important work to do.
The pope said it was for the best for converting protestants.
Ottoman SD
Leaders + 7R and 1C from istanbul to Vienna.
Hapsburg SD
England SD
Valois SD
Popish SD
Protestant lack of SD
c'mon guys....
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2012, 02:25:47 PM
c'mon guys....
Dude, blame Tamas; he's the one up. I will announce that there will be no Papal SD out of turn, though.
If I got a SD I wouldn't go out of turn either.
I am sorry guys, been very busy. I was just thinking this morning: which one of you is the ahole holding this up? Turns out it's me!
My SD: Charles and 5 regulars from Valladoid to Trier.
File will be sent right away.
Any events which help me keep Prague will go a long way in preventing an Ottoman win, so don't hold back.
No SD from England.
Tamas still has to remove 2 units from the map due to surrender.
Francis +4m +4r to Marseille
Ottomans up to play or wait on Tamas's slack ass.
I remove two mercs from Naples
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#52: 4 / Michelangelo
Message from Ottoman:
3/4 Build 1 fleet and 1 corsair in coron
4/4 Move doomfleet to IS
on to Tamas.
#93: 3 / Revolt in Ireland
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: squadron to Messina
3/3: Charles, 5+2 to Mainz
Liz is born. Over to Max.
She's out there somewhere.
#46: 5 / Calvin's Institutes
Message from France:
2/5 squadron in Marseille
4/5 naval moves: Franco-Genoan fleet from Genoa to Messina, French fleet from Marseille to Palma.
5/5 1r from Metz to Liege
Tetzel burns Olivetan in France, which inexplicably converts a couple of English spaces.
#91: 3 / Ransom
Message from Protestant:
John and 2r+1m from Wittenberg to Augsburg.
Tamas can intercept
And why not unify the army at nuremberg (where you can be intercepted) where you can later attack chuckie with 10 dice vs 8?
Tamas will you intercept?
tried to, failed
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#43: 3 / Zwingli Dons Armour
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Doomfleet port strikes messina
Then retreats to Tyrheinean Sea
Tamas can resolve
If destruction is complete then Tamas can also resolve the piracy. If destruction is not complete I'll be online all of sunday.
The Allied fleet is wiped out for a single ottoman corsair lost
Also I am granting a VP to the Ottomans for their piracy. Yes, it is the best call in the present circumstances.
#88: 3 / Peasants' War
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: squadron to Cagliar
3/3: assault Mainz
Protestants plz resolve, no cards from me
I feel partially redeemed for my poor dice luck earlier in the game.
note, expect any and all naval moves to be intercepted.
Quote from: Tamas on September 16, 2012, 09:26:27 AM
#88: 3 / Peasants' War
Message from Hapsburgs:
2/3: squadron to Cagliar
3/3: assault Mainz
Protestants plz resolve, no cards from me
Tamas kills both defenders with no losses.
English privateers go circle Puerto Rico. Over to Max.
Francis builds another chateau. The Pope calls a debate in England with minor success. Off to sbr.
Published treatise and flipped 2 French spaces.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#94: 2 / Revolt of the Communeros
Message from Ottoman:
1/2 Doomfleet raids caligari retreats to barbary coast
2/2 Doomfleet raids las palmas retreats to GOL
Note, surplus casualties will be taken as fleets not corsairs. I can't afford to run out of those.
I'm not playing combat cards, Leaving it to Tamas and Max to roll dem bones. (for two reasons, to give both the opportunity to play cards and cause when I roll the results are crap).
Ottomans raid remaining "allied" fleets and end up in gulf of lyon. This is what you schmucks get for placing your fleets in multi zone ports, I can port raid and move at the same time.
Remember no corsairs as losses.
Reading the rules, I conclude that you have no choice - a single hit on you (like in cagliari just now), eliminates a corsair
Ottomans destroy the allied fleets. Again.
Playing HC:
1/5: Charles, 5r2m to Worms
Protestant interception roll was successful so I await their decision on wether do it or not.
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
Reading the rules, I conclude that you have no choice - a single hit on you (like in cagliari just now), eliminates a corsair
sigh... why couldn't you hit twice.... or even better, why couldn't I not fight with the corsairs... when I think about it, If I had declined to use the corsair in the port raids I could have achieved the same results... only having 3 corsairs left rather than 2.
What was the point of the Pope giving Ottomans all his cards, again?
Anyhow, as I'll most likely be publishing a treatise, sbr can also decide whether he'll let me commit Cranmer for it.
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 02:15:27 AM
Ottomans destroy the allied fleets. Again.
Playing HC:
1/5: Charles, 5r2m to Worms
Protestant interception roll was successful so I await their decision on wether do it or not.
Might as well use the army if I have it, right?. I will intercept.
Looking at the rules I have a question about my first impulse of this turn, when I moved John and some units from Wittenburg to Augsburg. Someone said Tamas had a chance to intercept that move but:
Quote• Formations moving into a friendly fortified space that is not
under siege may not be intercepted.
Am I misreading or was that a mistake? It doesn't matter either way, I am just curious for the future.
roll the battle plz, no card from me.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 18, 2012, 06:53:19 AM
Anyhow, as I'll most likely be publishing a treatise, sbr can also decide whether he'll let me commit Cranmer for it.
After playing the Schmalkaldic League at the earliest possible moment? No I don't think so.
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 06:59:20 AM
roll the battle plz, no card from me.
Go ahead I am leaving for work right now. I have no cards either.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 18, 2012, 06:53:19 AM
What was the point of the Pope giving Ottomans all his cards, again?
Anyhow, as I'll most likely be publishing a treatise, sbr can also decide whether he'll let me commit Cranmer for it.
I've spread as much information/disinformation as I need on the subject, so I'll stop now.
Quote from: sbr on September 18, 2012, 06:59:35 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on September 18, 2012, 06:53:19 AM
Anyhow, as I'll most likely be publishing a treatise, sbr can also decide whether he'll let me commit Cranmer for it.
After playing the Schmalkaldic League at the earliest possible moment? No I don't think so.
:rolleyes: Like it mattered when the League triggered, given we are dealing with Tamas the Passive playing Habsburgs here. Anyhow, I won't be winning with religious spaces this turn but you might, so having the English debaters sit uselessly is more your loss than mine.
Habsburgs win 3 to 1
It should be 9 vs 9, as Protestants are the defender after intercepting successfully.
I.e. move the first Habsburg roll to the Prots. :P
Go ahead sol.
Englishmen dislike Pope interfering in their affairs. Shrewsbury and Lincoln convert.
I have 4 CPs left aholes :P
5/5: build two squadrons in Cartagena
Tamas, re-read the rules and the posts above. You misrolled the battle.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 18, 2012, 07:32:43 AM
Tamas, re-read the rules and the posts above. You misrolled the battle.
god damn. seriously want me to re-roll the whole thing? :P
Well as I said, you can just move the first Habsburg roll to Prots. Which would mean the battle is 2 vs 2.
fair enough. So I end up back in Mainz and the Protties in Worms. Please correct it in the next file. My move is unchanged. Thanks
Sent the file. I counted only 18 VP for the Pope (5 from religious spaces, 6 from keys, 3 from St. Pete, 3 from burnings, 1 from Servetus), correct me if I'm wrong.
And Max is up.
#99: 1 / Sebastian Cabot
Message from France:
merc in Dijon, just in case Alva can't handle Calvin
SBR up since I'm out of cards.
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 07:30:00 AM
5/5: build two squadrons in Cartagena
More cannonfodder?
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 18, 2012, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 18, 2012, 07:30:00 AM
5/5: build two squadrons in Cartagena
More cannonfodder?
attack them. I dare you. I double dare you!
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Is there a reason one of my units was left behind in Augsburg when I intercepted in Worms?
#72: 3 / Cloth Prices Fluctuate
Message from Protestant:
1/3 +1 CP to French Bible
3/3 Publish Treatise in France. Commit Cop.
Lyons and Besancon convert.
And I still have 2 outstanding questions. Why was Tamas able to intercept my first move of the turn, and why do I still have a unit in Augsburg, they should have all moved to Worms.
1 - Tamas was able to intercept because while you were going to a fort eventually, he intercepted in the open space. I think. I wasn't watching.
2 - I think the unit was just left behind.
Quote from: Viking on September 18, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
1 - Tamas was able to intercept because while you were going to a fort eventually, he intercepted in the open space. I think. I wasn't watching.
Oh yeah. I kept thinking the intercept happened when I left Nuremberg and moved to Augburg, but it happened when I first entered Nuremberg.
Quote2 - I think the unit was just left behind.
Thought so. Could you move it to Worms on your turn please. And thanks for the answers. :)
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#85: 3 / Katherina Bora
Message from Ottoman:
1/3 Port raid on Cartagena with leader and fleets (not corsairs).
3/3 Piracy in GOL if destruction is total.
(if destruction not total, wait for further instructions)
Tamas rolling as usual, since he might play a card and when he rolls I get really really good results.
More port strikes with a possible followup of piracy. Fleet returns to GOL after port strike to protect corsairs.
oh no you don't!
Quote#31: 2 / Foul Weather
Message from Hapsburgs:
RESPONSE Play during another power's impulse just after they have announced they are spending CP to move, assault, initiate piracy, conduct a naval move, or start a naval transport. 1 CP is lost. For the rest of the impulse, no land unit of that power may move more than 1 space; assault, piracy, naval moves, and naval transport are prohibited. All effects last only during this power's impulse. May not be used to stop Treachery! event
OK, then, I don't.
Doomstack in vienna (leaving 2 reg behind) move to linz and flag.
I built one mor squadron in Cartagena. OTTOMANS TREMBLE TO THE SIGHT OF MY MIGHTY ARMADA!!!!
Quote from: Tamas on September 19, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
I built one mor squadron in Cartagena. OTTOMANS TREMBLE TO THE SIGHT OF MY MIGHTY ARMADA!!!!
have you marked your home card as played yet?
France sends some troops and blankets to the new world
England converts some more.
Quote from: Solmyr on September 19, 2012, 04:09:53 PM
England converts some more.
You realize SBR gets to 50 spaces or 25 VP well before you do from conversion, right?
So, convert some French spaces back. Oh wait, you gave everything to the Turks.
And the Hapsburgs. :contract:
I'm still waiting for an explanation of the brilliant idea behind it. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on September 19, 2012, 05:51:31 PM
I'm still waiting for an explanation of the brilliant idea behind it. :P
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Quote from: Solmyr on September 19, 2012, 05:51:31 PM
I'm still waiting for an explanation of the brilliant idea behind it. :P
But then again, it might be this....
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waiting on sbr
#44: 2 / Affair of the Placards
Message from Protestant:
Publish Treatise. Commit Calvin for 3 attempts.
Somehow convinced Avignon to convert.
I am heading out and won't have access to CB for the next 36-48 hours so that will be my last turn until my Friday evening at the earliest.
Playing Home Card
1/5 - port strike with fleets (not corsairs) on hapsburg fleet.
2/5 - Army Linz to Prague.
I'll resolve the port strike and assume that prague garrison hides in city. I have lots of contingent stuff coming up. I'm assuming Tamas is out of combat cards.
Port Strike
5 Fleets and leader 12 dice attackers
3 Fleets and defender 7 dice defender
5 Ottoman hits
1 Hapsburg hit
No ottoman losses (never bring corsairs to a naval battle :) ) since the extra hit rounds down
Hapsburgs lose three fleets since the extra hit rounds up.
Fleet returns to GOL to join corsairs. Army moves to Prague
4/5 Piracy in GOL with no defense dice.
5/5 Deathfleet moves to barbary coast.
1 hit from piracy, assuming Tamas gives me a VP rather than a card (since that is what he did last time).
BTW, in naval combat so far this turn
Ottoman Losses 2 corsairs (at least 1 was un-necessary), spent 6 cp on movement, 4 on piracy
French Losses 3 Fleets 1 Genoese Fleet, spent 2 cp on movement
Hapsburg Losses 5 Fleets
Total costs to Ottomans 12 CP gaining 2 VP
Total costs to Allies 20 CP
This feels like the exact reverse of the land campaign in hungary earlier in the game.
Your naval luck is ridicoulous. It doesn't even worth it to unleash my naval trickery up my sleeves.
I am cursing Suleiman with gout though.
Viking's unrelenting rush in proceedings give me the questionable but still legal opportunity to raise the question to the community, should I fire professional rovers after seeing the results, or give him as piracy reward? :P
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
Viking's unrelenting rush in proceedings give me the questionable but still legal opportunity to raise the question to the community, should I fire professional rovers after seeing the results, or give him as piracy reward? :P
I don't get to benefit from rushing ahead. By rushing ahead like I do I risk giving you choices like this. I suggest you honestly decide what you think you would have done without the future information and do that.
Regarding the gout. The fleet remains in GOL and Ibrahim with 5R + 1C moves to prague with the last CP
1/5 port strike
2/5 cancelled move
4/5 piracy
5/5 ibrahim 5R1C move to Prague
well I mean sure, the choice was valid after the naval battle result since it would be my last card, and you were bound to pirate about 3 times before the end of this turn.
So at one hand, I might stop you from winning this turn if I give you the card. On the other hand, I might give you an extra piracy with say two hits and make it easier for you to win this turn.
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2012, 08:08:55 AM
well I mean sure, the choice was valid after the naval battle result since it would be my last card, and you were bound to pirate about 3 times before the end of this turn.
So at one hand, I might stop you from winning this turn if I give you the card. On the other hand, I might give you an extra piracy with say two hits and make it easier for you to win this turn.
Stop bloviating and decide. You don't have to justify your choice. I choose to move ahead knowing that you might do something like this. As far as I'm concerned I'm going to accept any choice you make as the one you would honestly have made. I can only blame myself for not waiting on you.
You can make the choice you think screws me over the most without having to justify yourself.
Fine, I rovered you for an extra hit.
Good game, Viking, congrats. :)
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2012, 08:15:27 AM
Fine, I rovered you for an extra hit.
Good game, Viking, congrats. :)
It's not over yet. Still have to pirate twice or take prague.
I'll send another file with the corrections.
Solmyr next
If the French conquest succeeds, France will win since it started the turn with more VP than you. :P Protestants aren't in line for a religious victory with only 2 cards left, I think. Calvin's Institutes might have done it if Calvin wasn't committed.
Anyway, Carlisle converts, over to Max.
No sol Calvin's institute would not get me there this turn, otherwise I wouldn't have committed him.
pass
sbr?
Quote from: Viking on September 21, 2012, 07:53:05 AM
sbr?
As I said about 36 hours ago:
Quote from: sbr on September 20, 2012, 07:17:51 AM
[snip]
I am heading out and won't have access to CB for the next 36-48 hours so that will be my last turn until my Friday evening at the earliest.
I will do something soon, just got home though.
#80: 1 / Gabelle Revolt
Message from Protestant:
+1 to French Bible.
Yes I could have done that before but I wanted to see the board first.
Since we are about to wrap this up one way or the other, it is perhaps time to ask: would this same crew be willing to play a game of Virgin Queen after this one is over? You guys actually make your moves which is a decided advantage over the other VQ crowd. :P
And all things considered I find that game better I think. More options open to each power (except maybe England).
Quote from: Tamas on September 22, 2012, 02:37:53 AM
Since we are about to wrap this up one way or the other, it is perhaps time to ask: would this same crew be willing to play a game of Virgin Queen after this one is over? You guys actually make your moves which is a decided advantage over the other VQ crowd. :P
And all things considered I find that game better I think. More options open to each power (except maybe England).
I'm up for it in principle but...
1 - this game isn't over
2 - we'd have to get the 3 yooro followed by 3 amreekee sequence we have here.
3 - i'll need to read the rules
4 - can we start with the ending positions from this game? :showoff:
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#76: 4 / Foreign Recruits
Message from Ottoman:
1/4 Move doom fleet to barbary coast
2/4 Move Sulemain to Prague
3/4 Assault Prague
4/4 Flag Mohacs
Tamas has no cards so I'll play the assault.
Assault on prague gives one hit each
Presuming Tamas loses merc, I'll lose the cav.
England builds a regular in Calais, for some unfathomable reason. Over to France.
And I'm up for VQ after this.
pass
Sbr to play home card then.
Took Calvin's Institute and will keep it in my hand. I pass out the turn.
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#108: 4 / Venetian Alliance
Message from Ottoman:
Msg to the Pope: Consider yourself Backstabbed, sorry, I'm going for the win this turn, stabbing you helps alot.
1/4 Assault Prague
3/4 Piracy Barbary Coast
4/4 Move Doomfleet Coast of North Africa
The deal was two cards for Venetial Alliance. I choose to stab the pope in the back because I am going for the win and will need all the cards I can get. Sorry ulmont, but this is a play for the win.
No hapsburg cards, so I'll just roll dem bones.
I take Prague for 1 loss, fail at piracy in barbary coast.
Pass.
Quote from: Viking on September 22, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
The deal was two cards for Venetial Alliance.
What kind of deal was that? Ottomans cannot do anything with that card except deactivate Venice, which is neutral anyway.
Transfer to me with do for two vp.
transfer with DO for two card draws (and two vp for you)
max, passing of playing?
pass
QuoteOttoman: Play Card as Operations
#74: 5 / Diplomatic Overture
Message from Ottoman:
2/5 Piracy north african coast
3/5 move to Ionian
5/ piracy in ionian
I'm not playing it for extra cards. 5 CP was enough for two piracies and I would have had to draw 8 cp of cards to make that third pirating while risking drawing less than 5, or an annoying combination of 1 and 4 preventing me from pirating two times.
no effect from piracy and I lose a corsair.. have missed my last 8 piracy rolls... sigh... I end at 25.
total 14 rolls 2 hits from piracy... naval combat, much better, oh well, at least I am at 25 points. Now I just need max to roll 7 or less on the conquest table.
I'll probably be passing
so, if sol passes then the turn ends.
and, unless somebody plays city revolts on one of my hungarian cities or tunis then the game is over and I win if Max rolls an unmodified 7 or less on his conquest roll.
The infidels win, thanks to the Pope. Proof that Luther was right. :P
good game, congrats viking
:w00t:
the nice thing about HiS is that you are never really truely out, since you can almost always bounce back to some degree by buying back your cities with VP and monomaniacly focus on your base.
BTW, this is the first Ottoman win I have ever seen.
I blame Tamas sucking. Also, my crap marriage rolls. :P
Quote from: Solmyr on September 22, 2012, 07:30:31 PM
I blame Tamas sucking. Also, my crap marriage rolls. :P
Tamas' problem was that he was never decisive on any front. He tried to defend everywhere and consequently defended nothing. He was too easily distracted and he was too easily threatened.
Good game Viking.
I really thought I was going to win last turn, the Pope having Fuggers to get more cards late was rather disappointing. I don't know if ulmost had enough CP without those extra cards to get the 4 spaces he needed or not. After seeing my hand this turn I am glad I took my shot last turn.
It was a pleasure to play with you all. At least three players came close to winning, just as HiS should be. GG everybody.