Anyone still playing this?
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 03:07:20 PM
Anyone still playing this?
Considered checking out the expansion, but honestly didn't feel like level grinding/farming stuff again; even though I like the world they have created a lot.
Pete still was, last time I checked. I think that's it. I liked LOTRO, but when I decided to go back to WoW I made a personal rule that I can only play one MMO at a time.
I log on once in a while but War has really got my attention.
Lemonjello still plays. I have explored a bit in the new expansion and its really neat what they have done with the game. I am also trying to limit myself to 1 mmo at a time. 2 mmo's at a time causes severe wife aggro, so I try and avoid it. When I grow tired of WoW, I will likely go back.
Quote from: Stonewall on March 25, 2009, 02:15:37 PMsevere wife aggro, so I try and avoid it. When I grow tired of WoW, I will likely go back.
:lol:
Anyone know how the shards work in crafting now?
I need a Mirrored Gondorian Halberd. Someone make me one.
Please. Can't be that hard, right?
I wanted to check this one out but the download manager will not download anything above 1kb/sec... So I'm almost through the trial period and I've got 700MB downloaded out of 10+gig...
I went to the local game stores and those that still have PC games in stock didnt have any copies of this...
Anyone has an idea why would my high speed crawl so when every other net functions are working fine ?
G.
Port open?
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 26, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
Port open?
I suppose not since its a router. Anyhow I found another downloader than the POS Turbine thing. Going at 850kb/sec now... Guess this one doesn't need a port open. The very own LotR forum mention Turbine is shit and players should never use it :D
G.
Excellent.
Quote from: Grallon on March 26, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 26, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
Port open?
I suppose not since its a router. Anyhow I found another downloader than the POS Turbine thing. Going at 850kb/sec now... Guess this one doesn't need a port open. The very own LotR forum mention Turbine is shit and players should never use it :D
G.
Did you try it mate? What did you think?
What server Berkut, Grallon and everyone else?
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 27, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
What server Berkut, Grallon and everyone else?
Brandywine.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 27, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
Did you try it mate? What did you think?
I'm on Silverlode.
I'm an elf from Lorien, a lvl 10 rune-caster. Dirty blond hair, green-gold eyes, finely chiseled featured... just like an elf ought to be...
But what a strange world that is... It's gorgeous in its details, from the fog coming out on your mouth in the mountains to the shadow you cast while walking. The trees sigh and sway, the architecture is beautifully drawn... And yet it feels so lifeless compared to WoW ! And it's not that there are far fewer players (a benediction ! Middle-Earth in those days should be sparesely populated...) - rather the feeling that everything is scripted. Perhaps it's because I was, until lvl 10, still in the introduction phase.. ?! Animals or ennemies didn't aggro; everything all seemed too conveniently staged.
And I'm sorry but the interface is counter-intuitive. But then again I'm used to WoW where everything is made user-friendly by fiat (and in truth they had 5 years to polish their shit...)
Still, walking through the Ered Luin Mountains felt like stepping from the books directly into Eriador...
I don't know. I bought the game and a 3 months membership so I'll have time to get used to things...
G.
So brandywine folks,
what are names i should be looking for?
And how is the mines expansion?
I still have my lifetime account so taking a look at the game again. :)
Berkut is my main.
Also play Berkin and Jehszi
Quote from: Berkut on March 28, 2009, 11:10:53 PM
Berkut is my main.
Also play Berkin and Jehszi
saw this weekend is like double xp as reward for folks coming back....and man the starting areas seem to have all changed..or it's just been a long time since i started up a guy.
I have a Rune Keeper on Silverlode, btw.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 29, 2009, 02:19:42 AM
I have a Rune Keeper on Silverlode, btw.
:lol:
No reason to roll over there, as you two will quit sooner than later.
Well, yeah.
@Grallon - levels 1-10 are introductory and 11-20 semi-introductory, so get your character at least into the mid-20s before you decide whether to stick with the game or not. The proportion of group quests and their difficulty also rises with level, so a lot of people will solo quickly into their mid-teens and then start socialising; IMO the other players are one of the strengths of this game, they are, in general, a pleasant and mature crowd.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2009, 03:10:17 AM
@Grallon - levels 1-10 are introductory and 11-20 semi-introductory, so get your character at least into the mid-20s before you decide whether to stick with the game or not. The proportion of group quests and their difficulty also rises with level, so a lot of people will solo quickly into their mid-teens and then start socialising; IMO the other players are one of the strengths of this game, they are, in general, a pleasant and mature crowd.
Where are you playing?
Quote from: Berkut on March 29, 2009, 09:16:17 AM
Where are you playing?
IIRC he's on some pansy euro servers.
Yes, I'm on the euro Laurelin-RP server, in a carebear kinship with loads of Danish and Dutch chicks in it :D
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
Yes, I'm on the euro Laurelin-RP server, in a carebear kinship with loads of Danish and Dutch chicks in it :D
My condolences. :bowler:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
Yes, I'm on the euro Laurelin-RP server, in a carebear kinship with loads of Danish and Dutch chicks in it :D
I think I still have some chars there. Maybe time to re-activate some chars? :unsure:
They seem to have kids Syt, and blokes as well........
Which suits me fine as I can flirt and play the fool without any risk of being taken seriously.
Not for that, you dirty old man. :P
Just to see how the game has changed. I don't think I ever got far into the 20+ Level range. :lol:
I've tried a number of these games now and LOTRO is my favourite, but I'm very uncompetitive. I just tool around at modest level of competence; the important thing for me is the immersion and suspension of disbelief, which is higher in this game IMO precisely because it is less competitive than some of the other games out there. With a couple of beers and the right company i really feel like a participant in Middle earth and the war of the Ring :cool:
Me, I enjoy exploring the world, doing quests while socializing in chat or some such. However, I found that many of these games inevitably reach a point where it becomes rather time demanding if you want to progress further which is the point where I drop off.
So basically you're a quitter, got it.
:P
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
... the important thing for me is the immersion and suspension of disbelief, which is higher in this game IMO precisely because it is less competitive than some of the other games out there. With a couple of beers and the right company i really feel like a participant in Middle earth and the war of the Ring :cool:
I agree completely. And now that I'm passed lvl 15 (17), have removed the automated tooltip and forced the camera to follow the character - I'm fully immersed. And gods did they do a good job at rendering Middle Earth ! We see clearly the influence of Jackson's movies. Yesterday I visited Hobitton and Bag End... Exactly as it was in the movies ! None of that cartoonish look you get in WoW (pink pig tales gnomes :bleeding:). The music as well; when you listen closely there are echos of Howard Shore' score.
And it's really cool to see 'live' characters you met in the books. Such as Lobelia Sackville-Bagins and her son waiting at the door of Bag End - Or Barliman Butterbur welcoming you at the Prancing Poney; or Aragorn himself from whom you get quests.
There's plenty of room for expensions since Gondor isn't mapped, nor is Ithilien, Dalet-on-the-Lake, Erebor, Harad...
However since the narrative is tied to the War of the Ring... what happens when the Ring gets destroyed ? You continue to play during the reign of Elessar ?
And private houses !!! That alone gets me all frisky :P
But above all - none of the cacophony you get on WoW servers *contended sigh*
G.
I played for a couple hours last night on my Captain.
Did not really do any quests, or get any real XP. Just spent the time exploring the North Downs. Freaking awesome.
WoW is like driving a American muscle car. Loud, flashy, powerful, and plenty of fun. And it is obvious fun.
You start playing LOTRO, and there is the sense of being underwhelmed compared to WoW. It isn't nearly as loud and in your face. It doesn't shove the fun down your throat in bucketfuls. It is like getting into a Lexus or a 5-series Beamer after driving a Mustang around. Gosh, this doesn't seem nearly as exciting! But then, after you drive around a while, you start to realize that the experience is a hell of a lot more in depth, much more subtle, but just as rewarding....and likely considerably more so.
Berkut has left Gang at War, and joined a new kinship that has about 20 people online pretty much all the time. Super friendly, lots of people willing to help out, and mature and relaxed guild chat. If anyone wants an invite after they hit level 10 and finish the intro quest line, let me know.
Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
Berkut has left Gang at War, and joined a new kinship that has about 20 people online pretty much all the time. Super friendly, lots of people willing to help out, and mature and relaxed guild chat. If anyone wants an invite after they hit level 10 and finish the intro quest line, let me know.
Just hit 10 on my new hunter, but thinking of getting xpac as more i read about warden makes me think it's what i'd like to play.
Looks like I'm re-rolling on the liquor server.
How many North American servers are there btw?
There are 11 European ones; 5 English-speaking, 4 German-speaking and 2 French speaking.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 30, 2009, 10:24:29 AM
How many North American servers are there btw?
There are 11 European ones; 5 English-speaking, 4 German-speaking and 2 French speaking.
Just checked 11 NA servers, and was able to upgrade the Moria xpac online and tried out a Warden...me rikey.
I heard the Runekeepers are crazy op at the moment.
Supposedly there was a quote from the RK rep on the forums, something like "Enjoy it while it lasts..."
I was chatting to someone in LOTRO earlier who played a RK on trial on a NA server. When she got her retail copy she was on a EU server, being a European. Anyway, she said the RK was much more powerful on the NA servers than on the EU servers. I believe you guys already have the book 7 update over there? We are getting book 7 in three days time.
I find this quite strange, having grouped with RKs recently I thought they were really quite powerful enough already, albeit they may be a tricky class to play optimally.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 30, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
I was chatting to someone in LOTRO earlier who played a RK on trial on a NA server. When she got her retail copy she was on a EU server, being a European. Anyway, she said the RK was much more powerful on the NA servers than on the EU servers. I believe you guys already have the book 7 update over there? We are getting book 7 in three days time.
I find this quite strange, having grouped with RKs recently I thought they were really quite powerful enough already, albeit they may be a tricky class to play optimally.
Yeah book 7 just came out and they have been doing a 25% xp bonus for this weekend 26-31st so my warden was lvl 8 before getting out of the intro area, will be lvl 10 later today.
Playing an RK was much fun so far, too bad they'll get nerfed.
Might look into the Warden.
Any of guys play instruments in the game?
I have not, but would really like to give it a try.
I think I'd need to macro the music to play anything decent, low dexterity :(
Btw BB is totally going to go insane over this :lol:
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 30, 2009, 10:36:39 AM
Btw BB is totally going to go insane over this :lol:
:huh:
Moving off at another tangent, there seem to be more players on each server than there were a few months back. Maybe due to trial accounts luring them in or WoW people bored out of their skulls after whizzing through WOTLK.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 30, 2009, 10:40:15 AM
Moving off at another tangent, there seem to be more players on each server than there were a few months back. Maybe due to trial accounts luring them in or WoW people bored out of their skulls after whizzing through WOTLK.
that's big part of reason i fired it up again. :blush:
It's my reason & I'm sticking to it.
So are you all be on the Brandywine server then ? What's wrong with Silverlode ? I'd rather do the group quests with people I know - no matter how disreputable you lot are - than strangers. And so far this game doesn't seem infected with whiny teenagers.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on March 30, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
So are you all be on the Brandywine server then ? What's wrong with Silverlode ? I'd rather do the group quests with people I know - no matter how disreputable you lot are - than strangers. And so far this game doesn't seem infected with whiny teenagers.
G.
Nothing, atleast none as far as I know. It is just much easier to move yourself then to make others moves. Especially when Berkut & Katmai are involved.
Quote from: Grallon on March 30, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
So are you all be on the Brandywine server then ? What's wrong with Silverlode ? I'd rather do the group quests with people I know - no matter how disreputable you lot are - than strangers. And so far this game doesn't seem infected with whiny teenagers.
G.
Brandywine is where we all started when the game came out. There is probably nothing wrong with Silverload other then the fact that we didnt start there.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 30, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
Nothing, atleast none as far as I know. It is just much easier to move yourself then to make others moves. Especially when Berkut & Katmai are involved.
I can just imagine yes ... One thing in favor of Silverlode is that there's no queue and not many people. If that doesn't sway people then I'll keep my Rune Keeper on Silverlode and reroll something else on Brandywine.
Imagine sharing a kinship house together ! :D
G.
Quote from: Grallon on March 30, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
And gods did they do a good job at rendering Middle Earth ! We see clearly the influence of Jackson's movies.
... and Jackson in turn took strong inspiration from "established" artists who had illustrated Middle Earth over the decades. :nerd:
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
... and Jackson in turn took strong inspiration from "established" artists who had illustrated Middle Earth over the decades. :nerd:
John Howe, Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith being the most important yes. I'm glad they chose to take their inspiration from the Nasmith approach (who has an architecture background), rather than from the other 2.
G.
Anyway Syt, if you do return to LOTRO then I'm currently rather active in Laurelin.
Meanwhile Havard is the big cheese of a large-ish kinship called Tranquillity over on Gilrain :cool:
I find myself in needs of Bronze Ingots & I lack the funds to buy them off the AH.
Anyone got some?
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 11:22:40 AM
I find myself in needs of Bronze Ingots & I lack the funds to buy them off the AH.
Anyone got some?
I sent you a few.
But the best way to get them is to make them.
Quote from: Berkut on March 31, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 11:22:40 AM
I find myself in needs of Bronze Ingots & I lack the funds to buy them off the AH.
Anyone got some?
I sent you a few.
But the best way to get them is to make them.
Excellent.
I do not know how, I'm a scholar, weaponsmith & a Farmer.
Weird set up if there's one.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 31, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 11:22:40 AM
I find myself in needs of Bronze Ingots & I lack the funds to buy them off the AH.
Anyone got some?
I sent you a few.
But the best way to get them is to make them.
Excellent.
I do not know how, I'm a scholar, weaponsmith & a Farmer.
Weird set up if there's one.
Ouch. In that case, I would pretty much give up on the weaponsmith part. No way you are going to be able to level it without some means of getting metal. Buying it on the AH is not feasible, since you are competing with people who are leveling alts and have way more cash than you do.
My Captin is a whichever one is Armsman, so he can do weaponsmith, woodworking, and prospecting. I've never once done a single thing with woodworking though, since there is no way for him to get the wood, and buying it isn't really an option.
We need to get Habs playing this game, so we can borrow gold from him.
Yeah, no easy way for me.
I mostly pick it for the Scholar part. I just have a quest demanding bronze ingots.
I agree, we needs Habs money.
Crafting quests seem like a cool idea.
I'm a prospector/metlasmith/tailor. As you can see the trio always contains 2 matching crafts and another one that's balancing the rest.
Btw, I can't seem to be able to log into brandywine; whenever I log in I go straight into Silverlode - there's no apparent 'switch server' option like in WoW.
G.
There is a toggle when you log into to automatically log into the last visited server. Somewhere.
Right on the logging screen of the Launcher.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 03:05:15 PM
Right on the logging screen of the Launcher.
I'm so distracted. :P Brandywine is down now. What's your name there anyway ?
G.
Quote from: Grallon on March 31, 2009, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 03:05:15 PM
Right on the logging screen of the Launcher.
I'm so distracted. :P Brandywine is down now. What's your name there anyway ?
G.
Artn
Berkut mentioned his before in the thread.
Katmai, I forgot.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 03:19:55 PM
Artn
Berkut mentioned his before in the tread.
Katmai, I forgot.
My guy is...uh yeah not sure the name off the top of my head either. :lol:
Quote from: katmai on March 31, 2009, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 31, 2009, 03:19:55 PM
Artn
Berkut mentioned his before in the tread.
Katmai, I forgot.
My guy is...uh yeah not sure the name off the top of my head either. :lol:
Galuilos.
:lol:
So trying to decide a vocation for my warden, any suggestions?
Alright/ After trying 3 times to get to Rivendel with my Rune Keeper and getting my ass handed over to me by flies and bears I now have a Captain on Brandywine. His name is Adaneol of Gondor.
G.
Wow. The Warden is damn fun to play.
Started playing a Rune Keeper. Lots of fun. I left my Guardian at around 35 or so and I might go back to him but the RK kills things so fast it is going to be a real shock going back to old slow and steady.
Quote from: Berkut on March 25, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
Anyone know how the shards work in crafting now?
I need a Mirrored Gondorian Halberd. Someone make me one.
Please. Can't be that hard, right?
send me mats; i'll do it
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 01, 2009, 10:03:18 AM
Started playing a Rune Keeper. Lots of fun. I left my Guardian at around 35 or so and I might go back to him but the RK kills things so fast it is going to be a real shock going back to old slow and steady.
What be your name!
Also, in other news, Grallon (probably) passed me last night. :lol:
Quote from: Phlebus the Phoenician on April 01, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 25, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
Anyone know how the shards work in crafting now?
I need a Mirrored Gondorian Halberd. Someone make me one.
Please. Can't be that hard, right?
send me mats; i'll do it
Hah, some nameless and anonymous person trying to get me to send them mats! SCAMMER!
Or, to be it differently...who the fuck are you?
I already got one though, but thanks for the offer.
Quote from: Berkut on April 01, 2009, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: Phlebus the Phoenician on April 01, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 25, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
Anyone know how the shards work in crafting now?
I need a Mirrored Gondorian Halberd. Someone make me one.
Please. Can't be that hard, right?
send me mats; i'll do it
Hah, some nameless and anonymous person trying to get me to send them mats! SCAMMER!
Or, to be it differently...who the fuck are you?
I already got one though, but thanks for the offer.
:cry:
So who are you ? Here and on Brandywine ...
G.
It's Pete.
Quoteauthor=Phlebas the Phoenician link=topic=220.msg11352#msg11352
:mad:
what gave it away?
We've all seen the bottom half of that Avatar. From there it was an easy guess.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 01, 2009, 10:12:45 AM
What be your name!
I think the RK is Heliat and the Guardian is Helias
Quote from: Scipio on April 01, 2009, 10:01:59 AM
Wow. The Warden is damn fun to play.
Yeah mine is lvl 17, enjoying it so far.
Down again... all servers apparently *scowls*
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 01, 2009, 03:42:01 PM
Down again... all servers apparently *scowls*
G.
Turbine is moving all the servers for all the games they host/manage. Its LoTRs turn to be moved.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 01, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 01, 2009, 10:12:45 AM
What be your name!
I think the RK is Heliat and the Guardian is Helias
Heliat is a Guardian
Helias is a Champion
No RK to be found :(
bah servers seem borked atm. :(
Totally, I've been lagging in place on the quick-travel horse for 5 minutes now.
:lol:
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 01, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 01, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 01, 2009, 10:12:45 AM
What be your name!
I think the RK is Heliat and the Guardian is Helias
Heliat is a Guardian
Helias is a Champion
No RK to be found :(
Ok, they are both mine. I will log on tonight and pay closer attention to my names of the various toons I have.
Kicked the tires on the Warden last night. What a great time. I nice change to the traditional tank class.
I really like the new quest assistance tracking system they have in beta. I have grown lazy finding quest locations after playing Warhammer and this does a good job pointing me in the right direction. It doesnt have quite the same functionality of the Warhammer version but it is a big improvement over having nothing.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
Kicked the tires on the Warden last night. What a great time. I nice change to the traditional tank class.
I really like the new quest assistance tracking system they have in beta. I have grown lazy finding quest locations after playing Warhammer and this does a good job pointing me in the right direction. It doesnt have quite the same functionality of the Warhammer version but it is a big improvement over having nothing.
What's funny is that I still get lost all the time with the quest tracking on :lol:
Berkut, who's the contact to join your kinship?
I didn't see any of you last night - reached lvl 12 - I'm in Combe atm. I chose this Captain to become an armorer.
Btw, is the languish channel constantly open ?
We should form our own kinship.
G.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 03, 2009, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
Kicked the tires on the Warden last night. What a great time. I nice change to the traditional tank class.
I really like the new quest assistance tracking system they have in beta. I have grown lazy finding quest locations after playing Warhammer and this does a good job pointing me in the right direction. It doesnt have quite the same functionality of the Warhammer version but it is a big improvement over having nothing.
What's funny is that I still get lost all the time with the quest tracking on :lol:
Berkut, who's the contact to join your kinship?
Me.
Quote from: Grallon on April 03, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
I didn't see any of you last night - reached lvl 12 - I'm in Combe atm. I chose this Captain to become an armorer.
Btw, is the languish channel constantly open ?
We should form our own kinship.
G.
No, we should not. They never work out, and it ends up being an empty chat channel. In fact, Gangs of War was a largely Languish kinship.
What we should do is all join the same kinship. Send me a tell in game for an invite.
Quote from: Berkut on April 03, 2009, 11:25:50 AM
Me.
So where do I apply hmmm ? :P
Edit: whats the difference between forming our kinship and all joining the same ?
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 03, 2009, 11:27:15 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 03, 2009, 11:25:50 AM
Me.
So where do I apply hmmm ? :P
Edit: whats the difference between forming our kinship and all joining the same ?
G.
You don't need to apply, just send me a tell in game and I will invite you.
The difference is that there are lots of other people in Shades of Twilight, it is active and casual.
Quote from: Grallon on April 03, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
I didn't see any of you last night - reached lvl 12 - I'm in Combe atm. I chose this Captain to become an armorer.
G.
Good to hear. I will likely need to get you to make me things for my tailoring recipes. My Warden is the one that has Forrestor, tailor, propespetor. Send me your skins for boiling if you want.
Helianth the Human Warden.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2009, 11:32:41 AM
...Send me your skins for boiling if you want.
So many ennemies in the cookpot Woo! :cool:
G.
You shall be contacted Berkut.
Sorry, Gral, wasn't on last nite, was busy puking my guts out.
Yeah didn't get a chance to log in last night, but probably for the best so grallon and gf can catch up with me as i've hit the lvls for first "instance" if i've read it all correctly.
I will be on tonight with my Warden. Probably sometime after 7pm. The eastern folks will likely be in bed by then.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
I will be on tonight with my Warden. Probably sometime after 7pm. The eastern folks will likely be in bed by then.
If you want an invite into Shades of Twilight, and I am not on you can contact
Devero
Orlannor
Becwald
or really anyone in the kin - they are pretty open about letting people in.
Thanks Berkut.
Wasted close to an hour yesterday, waiting on people to start the Great Barrow quests. Twice I joined a group to do one or more quests. Both times it failed miserably with people delaying in Bree, others arguing about which quest to start, and still others getting pissed because they "didn't join this group to do this particular quest"...
Fucking nonsense I thought I had left behind with WoW <_<
So I'll do those alone when I'm high enough.
People <_<
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 06, 2009, 07:00:22 AMFucking nonsense I thought I had left behind with WoW <_<
:lol: Why would you assume MMO retardedness is limited to WoW?
Quote from: Grallon on April 06, 2009, 07:00:22 AM
Wasted close to an hour yesterday, waiting on people to start the Great Barrow quests. Twice I joined a group to do one or more quests. Both times it failed miserably with people delaying in Bree, others arguing about which quest to start, and still others getting pissed because they "didn't join this group to do this particular quest"...
Fucking nonsense I thought I had left behind with WoW <_<
So I'll do those alone when I'm high enough.
People <_<
G.
What class are you playing again?
Anyway, MMO dipshits still exist in LOTRO, although there are fwer of them. But the basic human stupid problem remains.
I have 4 alts all in the low-mid teens - so if you are going to go into the Barrows, let me know, I would be happy to join up. We could get a decent Languish group together.
Hey G., My warden is just about ready to tackle the GB quests - just about 17 now.
The last time I played this game I had very good experiences with most PUGS. Hopefully you will start to have better luck with them.
CC, is the Warden a tank?
Yep, It was designed to be a second tank option. Guardians are the best tanks but a warden using the right Gambits can do a very good job too - especially if people give time to let the first Gambit fire.
Grallon's a captain.
Wait for me if you are going to do GB/Barrows.
My warden is as well lvl 17 waiting for you noobs.
Quote from: katmai on April 06, 2009, 12:52:22 PM
My warden is as well lvl 17 waiting for you noobs.
I'm 19 now - in the Lone Lands questing. But should you all manage to gather at Bombadil's I have Othrongroth to start there, I have the Bone Man too, Purging of the Dead and the Price of Fury I think ( the one that requires 2 keys) - all inside the Great Barrow.
G.
My Captain is up to level 33, and having a great time finishing out the North Lands quests with a RL friend (Orlannor).
My hunter, who has replaced my LM who replaced my Minstrel which replaced my Guardian which replaced the hunter as my favorite alt just fininshed out the Ered Luin quests and deeds, and is now about 17.5.
What is the min level for Great Barrows? I suspect he is still a little low. There are some very tough fights in there.
I keep reading 20/21.
Just so people are not surprised - IMO, instances in LOTRO are considerably harder than WoW, at least at the non-end game levels. Most WoW instances outside the max level ones are pretty trivial for a decently geared party of the appropriate level.
In contrast, I don't think I've ever completely run the Great Barrows with a group that did not have 1 person at a much higher level, like 30. It is not easy, and the bosses take some coordination. You cannot just run in and blow them up, like you can in WoW.
I did Othrongoth (epic book 1 that is) a while ago and had the easiest run I've ever had on that quest. It may have been made easier, maybe I have got better, or the group was a good one.
In general I find that LOTRO quests are quite sensitive to the level of the characters. So, something that seems almost impossible at lvl20 can be reasonably straightforward at lvl22.
My favoured way of doing the runs is in a PUG, you never know what is going to happen then :P
The heavily-choreographed stuff that a regular group can achieve leaves me a bit cold, you end up just grinding away at enemies with loads of hpts.
So far it seems like the epic instances are quite a bit easier than the stand alone ones. I don't know if that remains true though.
Had a good time last night with the Call to Men/Elves/Dwarves trio. Me and Eric pugged that, and it was interesting.
21 now and none of the group quests in the Great Barrow are done. <_<
G.
Quote from: Berkut on April 08, 2009, 09:38:10 AM
In contrast, I don't think I've ever completely run the Great Barrows with a group that did not have 1 person at a much higher level, like 30.
It's possible with low to mid 20s...but things can get out of hand and go disastrously wrong very fast.
I haven't played this since before the expansion, maybe will start again. Need to look in to what the expansion brought though, I was in early 40s before and got bored due to the difficulty of finding groups. It was getting very difficult to put together an appropriate level group for specific quests.
My warden Helianth is just about 27.
Can anyone make me an amazing one handed sword, spear or club and if so what mats do you need?
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 14, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
My warden Helianth is just about 27.
Can anyone make me an amazing one handed sword, spear or club and if so what mats do you need?
Define amazing. I'm an expert armorer. I'm also a woodworker but I haven't bothered working to get this skill up.
I can work godorian steel (20-55 damage - 12-18 dps) and will soon begin my artisan training (drwarven and numenorean steel works).
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Image:Gondorian_sword_toss.jpg
The only thing I would need, if you want that - is a polished saphire. The rest of the ingredients I have and it's good practice.
Other than that, I'd suggest the AH :)
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 14, 2009, 11:28:23 AM
Define amazing.
Something in purple. :) The sword you can is not much better then the one I have and is about the same as the weapon I will be getting when I finish my next quest.
I dont know if crafters at this level can do much better though.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 14, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
Something in purple. :) The sword you can is not much better then the one I have and is about the same as the weapon I will be getting when I finish my next quest.
I dont know if crafters at this level can do much better though.
Perhaps you can ask someone in the kinship who's high enough.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 14, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 14, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
Something in purple. :) The sword you can is not much better then the one I have and is about the same as the weapon I will be getting when I finish my next quest.
I dont know if crafters at this level can do much better though.
Perhaps you can ask someone in the kinship who's high enough.
G.
Its a bit of an odd group. They appear to be very generous in giving stuff out to the 40+ crowd but I think they see us as just more alts.
I don't think that is the case at all - they've been very generous with me. You jsut ahve to actually participate and socialize.
Chat and stuff. Ask about what is available in the kin chests, for starters.
Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
I don't think that is the case at all - they've been very generous with me. You jsut ahve to actually participate and socialize.
Chat and stuff. Ask about what is available in the kin chests, for starters.
Not my experience. Most times when I chime in I get a lot of crickets.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 14, 2009, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
I don't think that is the case at all - they've been very generous with me. You jsut ahve to actually participate and socialize.
Chat and stuff. Ask about what is available in the kin chests, for starters.
Not my experience. Most times when I chime in I get a lot of crickets.
You have to talk more, say hi often when people log in. At some point they'll recognize your name & answer back.
Here CC, last night I was given the following:
http://loreimages.level3.lotro.com/wiki/Image:Mirrored_gondorian_greatsword_toss.jpg
It was made by a kin mate once I provided the mats, free of charge.
Look for Thoi and tell him Adaneol refered you to him. ;)
G.
Damn grallon, you are flying!
I just hit 35 and did the horse delivery quests for my mount.
Dude's on drugs or something.
I made 23. Now we can go to GB.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2009, 09:41:01 AM
Damn grallon, you are flying!
I just hit 35 and did the horse delivery quests for my mount.
Remember I don't have a life other than working :D
So we can't get horses before lvl 35 ? Good, I'm saving up for a large house and decorations and the horse. I figure 10G should do it. I have 3 so far.
Of course if GF wants to share a house with me ... :boff:
G.
Dwarves are asexual.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2009, 11:34:01 AM
Dwarves are asexual.
You can hardly blame them, when you see what dwarf women look like. And dwarf men for that matter.
I didn't know there was card play in LOTRO...
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2009, 11:58:46 AM
I didn't know there was card play in LOTRO...
Maybe you should come check it out then, ;)
What level are you now G?
Quote from: Grallon on April 15, 2009, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
What level are you now G?
I'm 28 as of last night.
G.
nobody cares that a toon I started after you is only one level behind. :cry:
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2009, 03:37:07 PM
nobody cares that a toon I started after you is only one level behind. :cry:
I've said it often before, I'm not into pissing contests. But if it makes you feel better, we're proud of you :D
G.
So CC is right behind Grallon and closing fast?
Kind of a man bites dog story when you think about it :huh:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 15, 2009, 05:56:05 PM
So CC is right behind Grallon and closing fast?
Kind of a man bites dog story when you think about it :huh:
Are you comparing me to a dog ? <_<
G.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 15, 2009, 05:56:05 PM
So CC is right behind Grallon and closing fast?
Kind of a man bites dog story when you think about it :huh:
:lol:
At the risk of being accused of coming up behind G and biting him...
I will likely be free most of this weekend for playing. My wife is taking the boys to her Dad's place in Downtown Vancouver on Saturday so that they can run in the Sun run on Sunday morning.
So that means you'll continue to not talk? ;)
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:05:34 PM
So that means you'll continue to not talk? ;)
He talks to me ^_^
Had a brain cramp moment last night. Battles really seemed to be harder and I was taking lots of damage. Then I realized I forgot to turn on my buff that boost in combat morale regeneration. :blush:
Reached lvl 31 today. I got almost broke training, then buying coal for my smithing; and finally I decided to buy a house. It's a small house (22 hanging slots) but it's an elven house :thumbsup: I've authorized kin members to visit. GF you have the run of that house (6 Waterfront Road in Duillond - next to a waterfall) and half of the house chest - but I want half of the weekly mortgage (27 silver) in exchange.
G.
Good job G.
I am still unclear about the advantages of a house but I have heard that the deluxe houses have more storage and so I will likely wait until I can get that. Are hanging slots where you put those trophies I get from time to time? Does that give you any ingame bonus or is it purely decorative?
I am half way to 31.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 10:03:37 AM
Good job G.
I am still unclear about the advantages of a house but I have heard that the deluxe houses have more storage and so I will likely wait until I can get that. Are hanging slots where you put those trophies I get from time to time? Does that give you any ingame bonus or is it purely decorative?
I am half way to 31.
From what I could see it's purely decorative. And the small house is really small - it's 2 rooms. You can hang stuff, have furniture, paint the walls and the floors, plaster the walls and the floor. The only advantage to the house is the 50 slots chest (you can have up to 3 per house) that you can buy for 100S.
Btw when you decide to put your pride aside do ask the kinsfolk for help with the gear. Aestheny I think, the Guild Master anyway, made an entire set of dwarven steel armor (helmet, shoulders, chestplate, leggings, gloves - all purple) - for 100 high grade iron ingots. I threw in 30 barrow iron ingots as a tip. Imagine how much the whole set would have cost had I needed to buyit/have it made !
G.
I forgot to mention one of the neatest feature of the crafting system I found so far: you actually have a random chance to produce superior items when you are making regular stuff. Yesterday I was crafting steel greatswords and to my surprise, once finished, I discovered I had a purple of the same type called a 'fine steel greatsword'. The game actually recognizes you proficiency live! :thumbsup:
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 20, 2009, 11:57:55 AM
I forgot to mention one of the neatest feature of the crafting system I found so far: you actually have a random chance to produce superior items when you are making regular stuff. Yesterday I was crafting steel greatswords and to my surprise, once finished, I discovered I had a purple of the same type called a 'fine steel greatsword'. The game actually recognizes you proficiency live! :thumbsup:
G.
Yes, that is the critical system. Once you have mastered a particular level open up the critical tab. It will tell you what a critical success will create and it will also tell you what item you can use to increase the chances of a critical success.
Quote from: Grallon on April 20, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
Btw when you decide to put your pride aside do ask the kinsfolk for help with the gear. Aestheny I think, the Guild Master anyway, made an entire set of dwarven steel armor (helmet, shoulders, chestplate, leggings, gloves - all purple) - for 100 high grade iron ingots. I threw in 30 barrow iron ingots as a tip. Imagine how much the whole set would have cost had I needed to buyit/have it made !
G.
Its not so much pride as the speed I have been levelling. It doesnt make sense to ask them to go through the mats needed to create that gear when I will be out of it in a week or less.
Levelling is slowing down now so it makes more sense to ask for items at the next crafting level bump. Which reminds me that last level bump was 27, when is the next minimum level for crafting items?
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 12:08:20 PM
Which reminds me that last level bump was 27, when is the next minimum level for crafting items?
Next minimum lvl ? I'm not sure I'm following you. I'm proficient expert weaponsmith - working towards master expert - but the speed depends entirely on the mats I have available to work with.
Anyhow the set of armor I spoke about is good enough to last me in my 40s.
G.
31 is the next break point level for items.
I was going to get a full set of new armor for my Captain at 31, but by that time I had enough good stuff from quest rewards and drops in Garth Argawen that I didn't really need anything enough to justify it.
Just make sure you always have a very good weapon.
Thanks Berk, I am in the perfect position then to ask for some stuff - I will probably hit 31 in the next couple days.
I finally have my first purple weapon so I am good on that now. It is the one thing that I always try to upgrade if possible with quest reward when the option presents itself.
Quote from: Grallon on April 20, 2009, 12:48:02 PM
Next minimum lvl ? I'm not sure I'm following you.
In the crafting system there are various tiers of items that correspond to minimum level requirements. I think they go 16, 21, 27 and now Berkut has told me 31.
So for example if you are level 29 it doesnt make sense to get somebody to craft level 27 purple items for you since you will soon be able to wear the level 31 items they can make.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 20, 2009, 01:25:33 PM
So for example if you are level 29 it doesnt make sense to get somebody to craft level 27 purple items for you since you will soon be able to wear the level 31 items they can make.
I see. Well here's what I got: http://www.northshield.co.uk/LOTRO/Heavy/Dwarf-Iron/dwarf-iron.htm
G.
That is some seriously kick-ass armor. I want some!
That is a really awesome site in general grallon. Great crafting info all in one place.
Quote from: Berkut on April 20, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
That is some seriously kick-ass armor. I want some!
Ask the boss.
Btw, these outfits we can buy - are we supposed to put them on top of the armor and switch the view of the armor off ?
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 20, 2009, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 20, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
That is some seriously kick-ass armor. I want some!
Ask the boss.
Btw, these outfits we can buy - are we supposed to put them on top of the armor and switch the view of the armor off ?
G.
In your character screen, you will see some tabs along the equipment view. You can configure two outfits that you can elect to "show" instead of whatever equipment you are actually wearing.
Is anyone else a total Deed whore?
Quote from: Berkut on April 23, 2009, 09:39:09 AM
Is anyone else a total Deed whore?
I concentrate on the ones I know I will use. I ignore the ones that I wouldnt equip.
I hit 31 last night as I finished the call to Dwarves, men and elves quests.
Tonight I will have to find a hunter to port me to Rivendale or take a long walk.
Yeah, that long walk to Rivendale is...long.
But kind of fun. I love the exploration part of this game, and do not at all mind just wandering around looking at shit.
I'm stuck with the Epic Quest line - haven't completed C6 of Book 1 (Gaunt-Lord in the Red Bride quest chain). There's apparently never anyone doing it when I'm on. I don't mind dropping regular group quests but the main epic chain that's another story. <_<
G.
Thanks for sending that G.
That book 2 is a bit of a nuisance, whereas it is always very easy to get people for book 3. The problem, I think, is that people only spend a very small amount of their time in the Lonelands when they are ready for book 2. Whereas the North Downs holds people for a long while. So the pool of relevant players in situ is far higher for 3 than 2 when you put a LFF call out.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 24, 2009, 10:22:20 AM
That book 2 is a bit of a nuisance, whereas it is always very easy to get people for book 3. The problem, I think, is that people only spend a very small amount of their time in the Lonelands when they are ready for book 2. Whereas the North Downs holds people for a long while. So the pool of relevant players in situ is far higher for 3 than 2 when you put a LFF call out.
Yep, its the only design flaw of note I have seen so far. There are a lot of group quests to do in the Lone lands area but few people to do them with because everyone in that level range spends most of their time in the North Downs.
Since LOTRO turned 2 today, there's another free week going on with it's mandatory 25% boost to XP.
Also, I suggest everyone not a lifetime member to change his subs plan to the new 9.99$ a month that is avalaible for a limited time.
Another cause, now I think about it, is that the Lonelands is also very poor for resource gathering; whereas the North Downs is very rich in resources. So, again, people tooling about with time on their hands will favour the ND over the Lonelands.
Just got a free trial while Turbine sort out the problem with me actually using my paid for downloaded edition <_<
Logging on to Brandywine for the first time :o
So how many languishites are actually playing this?
I'm tempted to rejoin - the only reason I left was that everyone else had stopped playing on Brandywine at the time. :huh:
Berkut and his 12 alts.
CC and his 3 alts
Grallon
Grey Fox
Lemonjello
I feel like I'm missing someone but that's pretty much it, Katmai hasn't logged in in weeks, too busy playing Eve.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 05:10:14 PM
I feel like I'm missing someone but that's pretty much it, Katmai hasn't logged in in weeks, too busy playing Eve.
Yep i kept logging in and only saw Berkut on, so my warden is sitting at lvl 18 all by herself :lol:
Grallon & CC are both already above 30 hovering close to 35.
Myself, I'm slow & only 26.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 06:33:17 PM
Grallon & CC are both already above 30 hovering close to 35.
Myself, I'm slow & only 26.
Yeah I know they are up to 30's as both passed me, but they weren't on that much when i was so never got to team up with them.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 26, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Just got a free trial while Turbine sort out the problem with me actually using my paid for downloaded edition <_<
Logging on to Brandywine for the first time :o
Wonderful! :hug:
what are you and what's your name ?
-----
I turned 37 today and I'm badgering our guild leader for this:
http://northshield.co.uk/LOTRO/Heavy/Westernesse/Westernesse.htm
I'm in Evendim - love it ! However the number of group quests I've put on the backburner is growing... Lone Lands, North Downs, Garth Agarwen... pfff
G.
You might as well ditch the North Downs ones.
Quote from: Grallon on April 26, 2009, 08:54:11 PM
Wonderful! :hug:
what are you and what's your name ?
G.
It's like WoW, he's an euro, it's a different Brandywine.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 05:10:14 PM
Berkut and his 12 alts.
CC and his 3 alts
Grallon
Grey Fox
Lemonjello
I feel like I'm missing someone but that's pretty much it, Katmai hasn't logged in in weeks, too busy playing Eve.
so, the answer is Berkut, Grallong, CC, Lemonjello, and you?
Quote from: Grallon on April 26, 2009, 08:54:11 PM
Wonderful! :hug:
what are you and what's your name ?
I've a human captain, which is a class I've never played before and I'll have a hobbit hunter because, from a previous trial, I really like them.
Quote from: Barrister on April 26, 2009, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 26, 2009, 05:10:14 PM
Berkut and his 12 alts.
CC and his 3 alts
Grallon
Grey Fox
Lemonjello
I feel like I'm missing someone but that's pretty much it, Katmai hasn't logged in in weeks, too busy playing Eve.
so, the answer is Berkut, Grallong, CC, Lemonjello, and you?
Yes
Holy Crap Grallon you are really moving fast. You must have played the whole day yesterday.
Quote from: Berkut on April 26, 2009, 08:56:30 PM
You might as well ditch the North Downs ones.
Why? There is no trouble finding groups for them and as Richard pointed out, while waiting you can lot up on materials for crafting.
I had an amazing group going on the weekend. Guardian, 2 Wardens, Mini, Champion and RK. The tanks picked everything up while the Champ and RK burned through them. The Mini had very little to do most of the time. We went through a bunch of Group Quests like a hot knife through butter. It was great.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 27, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 26, 2009, 08:56:30 PM
You might as well ditch the North Downs ones.
Why? There is no trouble finding groups for them and as Richard pointed out, while waiting you can lot up on materials for crafting.
I had an amazing group going on the weekend. Guardian, 2 Wardens, Mini, Champion and RK. The tanks picked everything up while the Champ and RK burned through them. The Mini had very little to do most of the time. We went through a bunch of Group Quests like a hot knife through butter. It was great.
Becuase he is level 37 and they are almost certainly all grey to him with useless rewards.
Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2009, 01:50:26 PM
Becuase he is level 37 and they are almost certainly all grey to him with useless rewards.
Dont think so. I am 33 or 34 and I still have yellow group quests there. Remember the North Downs covers a very large area. The area to the East and South East of Est... whatever the name is, is designed for low to mid 30s. Are you thinking only about the area north of Trestlebridge?
The stuff in Dol Dinen is likely light blue or even dark blue for level 37s. My main is lvl42 now and there are still green quests for him to do in the North Downs (which I don't do as I'm only calling in for the superior workbenches and jeweller's guild stuff).
Oh wait, North Downs?
Doh, I was thinking Lone Lands.
Yeah, I have tons of colored quests in North Downs still. In fact, it never seems to stop.
I have some HARD group quests in fact. The ones that send you down into the orc camps to the southeast of Estelidin are no joke.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 27, 2009, 10:22:10 AM
Holy Crap Grallon you are really moving fast. You must have played the whole day yesterday.
Yes and all day saturday. Same pattern I had with WoW. I burned out on WoW after 6 months straight. Incidently I have renewed my subscription to profit from the 10$/month - for 6 months. If I still wish to play after that I'll go for the lifetime membership.
As for the XP accrual, I use the Destiny points, for 250 (and I have 5500 accumulated so far) you get a bonus XP for 30 min I think.
G.
I keep thinking I should use destiny points but I always forget about it.
Good idea.
Btw dont burn out levelling to 60. Take your time and enjoy it. If this is like other MMOs there is a whole new game to play once you hit max level.
Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2009, 03:25:52 PM
Oh wait, North Downs?
Doh, I was thinking Lone Lands.
Ah ok. Good advice then.
Stupid Group quests.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 03:31:19 PM
Stupid Group quests.
The problem with group quests is the people. My tolerance for other's bullshit is very low. Besides I work better alone.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 27, 2009, 03:34:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 27, 2009, 03:31:19 PM
Stupid Group quests.
The problem with group quests is the people. My tolerance for other's bullshit is very low. Besides I work better alone.
G.
I thought Captains made a awesome solo class until I played a Hunter for a while.
Captains kick ass and then heal themselves.
Hunters just blow everything up before it gets to them. Hardest part of being a solo hunter is having to run over to the dead mob to loot it.
Actually it's 36 I hit yesterday. But I did get my horse! :yeah: That is after more than a dozen tries for the final quest in that chain... :hide:
Now I'm back to above 3 gold - working towards a big house. Which won't be in Duillond. As much as I like the elven architecture, Duillond is simply too out of the way.
G.
Grallon, have you done the racial deed that gets you a free port back to Bree?
Once you get that, who really cares?
Then you will have a port to micahel Delving (guild) and port to Bree (racial trait), a port to your map, and a port to Elvish lands.
I'm loving my game as a human captain. Never played a human before (I'm very biased towards Hobbits) but it's really fun at the minute.
Champions and RKs cut down elite mobs so quickly, I am beginning to wonder why anyone actually needs me to keep aggro as a tank.
Which is why I gave up on my guardian :(
The only time he was really useful was when there was a boss with loads of hitpoints to be tied down. The rest of the time another champ seemed to be more useful.
(There was a lot of grunmbling about this recently though, maybe a future patch will help out?)
I think WoW went through a similar problem.
The content was pretty trivial for anyone who played the game seriously, so you never really needed to have defined "roles", since you could mostly just blow through everything by brute force.
Of course, once you got into the heroic dungeons and stuff, you had to be a LOT more careful, so you were back to traditional group roles and expectations that people could fulfill them.
So far, with my level 36 Captain, I can pretty much just blast my way through and non-elite content. I duo up with an equivalent level minstrel, and we can handle same level elites easily, 2 of them without much trouble, and 3 if we plan it out a bit.
And Captains are not even the uber FOTM class. I imagine some others could do even more.
Yes, the problem for the guardian is the pitiful slowness of it all when he is soloing, or the lack of dps he brings to the mix when engaging in straightforward fights. This problem was solved for minstrels with the introduction of war-speech, something similar would be nice.
Mind you, my champ is at lvl43 now, so at the personal level the question has become moot.
The nice thing about wardens is that I can switch of dps mode simply by selecting different gambits. Guards have redo their traits and go with a two hander. As a result I can cut through the solo quests very quickly without taking any damage that cant be easily self healed.
But even though Warden dps is better then Guards it is puny compared to the actual dps classes.
I am looking forward to more challeging group quests where tactics become a bit more important.
Fornost is one of the most fun dungeons I've ever run in any game. Its superior to everything I've seen in WoW and everything I saw in LOTRO, not including any of the new MoM stuff (which I haven't seen)
Cool. I haven'[t done anything in Fornost yet.
I don't know what Fornost is.
I really need to read LOTR in English.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 01, 2009, 02:54:04 PM
I don't know what Fornost is.
I really need to read LOTR in English.
It's the former capital city of Arnor, the lost realm of the north. It replaced Annuminas as capital. It was one of the last places to fall to the Witch King during his conquest of the North Kingdom. It was later liberated, but never really reinhabited again, as the people of Arnor were no more, other than the remnant that became the Rangers and some other minor pockets.
Does the dungeon look impressive ingame? Lots of ruins and remnants of the splendor that was? My only gripe with the game is the loss of the armor and architectual feel of the films, which I really grew to love. I know it wasn't an option, as they couldn't secure the rights, but I still miss it.
I've started re-downloading the client, because I'm in a LotR mood. 8 GB, 3 hours. :bleeding:
Of course I could install from disk and patch, but I doubt that'd be faster.
Dear hod, this is taking forever to update.
My champ and guardian are lvl 20/21 respectively, but I currently feel like re-learning the game. Best to start a new character.
I'll be Delumeril on Laurelin. :)
Dammit, when did they streamline the Elf n00b area like that? :unsure:
Quote from: Syt on May 03, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
Dammit, when did they streamline the Elf n00b area like that? :unsure:
What do you mean? I'm generally not a huge elf fan but what's happened to it all?
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 03, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
What do you mean? I'm generally not a huge elf fan but what's happened to it all?
I recall a whole lot more running about (e.g. the Skorgrim's Blood plants you have to destroy were all on the path to the mountain top) - this time most quests were done within the same area and I was done after fifteen or so minutes.
A first look at Celondim (after the Skorgrim's Tomb instance) also has hints of more involved/streamlined quests. Ruins that were in the hands of Goblins are now populated with wolves; the area where you collect wood for wine casks has also been revamped with new NPCs/small quests. Will see how much more has been changed. But I like it so far, because it makes going through this almost like a new game. :)
It's the Dwarf noob area you freaking Elf lover.
They did that with Boook 7 syt.
I give you Adaneol Cadanel of Gondor, lvl 39 Captain.
G.
Good job Grallon!
And I say: I love the outfit options - so I can display what you saw: a Mariner hauberk and Winged Elven Helm while retaining the benefits of my Westernesse Armor Suit. :thumbsup:
G.
Quote from: katmai on May 03, 2009, 06:20:06 PM
They did that with Boook 7 syt.
Thanks. :) Tells you how long I haven't played. I made LVL 9 yesterday in no time without even trying (then again, I do play a Champion) - seems they took a page out of WoW's book in that regard. ;)
I will continue with my Elf for now and maybe later re-roll my dorf guardian.
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2009, 12:24:42 AM
Thanks. :) Tells you how long I haven't played. I made LVL 9 yesterday in no time without even trying (then again, I do play a Champion) - seems they took a page out of WoW's book in that regard. ;)
I will continue with my Elf for now and maybe later re-roll my dorf guardian.
yeah they made it pretty quick to hit lvl 8-9.
I need to get back on and work on my warden as that class is a lot of fun.
I looked at the class, but it seems to be neither a real tank nor a real healer, so it didn't interest me much. I like tanking, but I prefer going "full tank" for that.
I also don't like casters/crowd controllers/stealth classes, so I'm pretty limited to hunter/guardian/champion. Haven't really tried the captain yet, though.
Day off - had forgotten all servers are down for maintenance until noonish. <_<
G.
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2009, 12:49:40 AM
I looked at the class, but it seems to be neither a real tank nor a real healer, so it didn't interest me much. I like tanking, but I prefer going "full tank" for that.
It works well as a tank. In some circumstances where mutiple mobs need tanking a Warden can do better then a Guardian because Wardens have better aoe aggro skills.
Wardens are not meant has healers. The self healing Warden can do are a nice benefit though since it takes pressure off the healers who can then concentrate on the other dps squishies. From what I read on the forums in the end game instances Guardians are better tanking one on one but also from what I have read there are not many of those encounters where a Guardian can actually stand there for long. Unlike WoW it looks that a lot of kiting and exchanging of aggro that is required.
Plus Wardens solo a lot faster because they do a lot more damage.
I could never go back to my Guardian after playing with the Warden up to the same level.
My guardian is 34 and is now a mule. My Warden hit 37 over the weekend.
Alright, I rolled a Hobbit warden. Seems straight forward enough, but could someone please explain gambits to me? :unsure:
Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2009, 01:51:09 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
Alright, I rolled a Hobbit warden. Seems straight forward enough, but could someone please explain gambits to me? :unsure:
Imagine a clenched fist shaking slightly from side to side. :bowler:
:huh:
Never mind, though. I didn't notice I had to buy gambits from my trainer. :blush:
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2009, 02:03:29 PM
Never mind, though. I didn't notice I had to buy gambits from my trainer. :blush:
:lol:
Just make sure you take the time to study which gambits are the most effective in particulary circumstances. Early on that is easy because you get very few but as you level you get much more variety and you will have access to 2, 3, 4 and 5 slot gambits. Each has their place and can have a huge impact on gameplay.
I love this class for that. Its not just pluggin away at the same buttons over and over. You have to think about your strategy and plan ahead a bit. You dont want to be in the middle of bulding up a 4 slot gambit only to realize that you should have started another gambit entirely. Also, you can shift to another gambit in midstream if you are really on the ball.
As one of our Kinmates said, "Wardens are one of those classes you cant just pick up after a week or two away. You really have to know what you are doing" or words to the effect.
and for those few europeans plaing on laurelin... (about 1, excepting me :D): the Flame of the North still exists albeit in a much reduced form (4 peeps and a horsehead). Oh well :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
As one of our Kinmates said, "Wardens are one of those classes you cant just pick up after a week or two away. You really have to know what you are doing" or words to the effect.
That makes it sound like I should stick with my Champions/Guardians/Hunters. ;)
For teh record, LOTRO at 1680x1050 with 4x AA, and all the bells and whistles cranked to max looks amazing.
I think the biggest grpahical "wow" difference was being able to ramp the draw distance out to ultra high. The world suddenly seems much more epic.
Quote from: Berkut on May 07, 2009, 02:18:13 PM
For teh record, LOTRO at 1680x1050 with 4x AA, and all the bells and whistles cranked to max looks amazing.
I think the biggest grpahical "wow" difference was being able to ramp the draw distance out to ultra high. The world suddenly seems much more epic.
I'm running it at max all at 1920x1200 and have a good time. If only the objects in the distance wouldn't "pop up". :(
I especially like the shadows from objects (trees, buildings) on my char.
Quote from: Berkut on May 07, 2009, 02:18:13 PM
For teh record, LOTRO at 1680x1050 with 4x AA, and all the bells and whistles cranked to max looks amazing.
I think the biggest grpahical "wow" difference was being able to ramp the draw distance out to ultra high. The world suddenly seems much more epic.
Mind posting a screenshot for those of us who may never get to dream that impossible dream? Thanks in advance.
Mind you, the engine is two years old. And Oblivion or FO3 this is not. Also, I'm still in the starting area of dwarves/elves.
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WTF, downscaling by forum. :(
You get full res when clicking the links:
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Quote from: Berkut on May 07, 2009, 02:18:13 PM
For teh record, LOTRO at 1680x1050 with 4x AA, and all the bells and whistles cranked to max looks amazing.
I think the biggest grpahical "wow" difference was being able to ramp the draw distance out to ultra high. The world suddenly seems much more epic.
Yep, I took a few moments just to look around after I got the new rig. The world looks very nice.
Thanks Syt. Definately does look nice on those settings. When I played way back in the beta I had lower settings and it was still pretty to look at, but those shots are fantastic.
A few more beauty shots (links for full res):
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They really nerfed the n00b quests in Ered Luin. I'm almost level 16 with my Champion, didn't have to group once (Skithi Blackhand and Standing Stone, plus some Epic instances used to be group quests) and only once or twice came close to dieing.
Dawn from Amun Sul
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That Amon Sul screenie looks fantastic. :)
Wow. Is the place always so empty?
Quote from: Faeelin on May 09, 2009, 09:50:28 AM
Wow. Is the place always so empty?
Yes but it's middle earth, it should be empty.
Quote from: Faeelin on May 09, 2009, 09:50:28 AM
Wow. Is the place always so empty?
Thats funny, since the Amun Sul pic I had to shoo some people away so I could take it.
I was pretty happy to get up there right as the sun was rising.
Considering that Laurelin is an RP server that's pretty full (only English RP server over in Europe, running for two years) the n00b areas are decently visited around this time of day (they're empty in the mornings). Probably people levelling alts.
Excellent shots Syt and Berkut! Damn I need a new rig so I can play this. :( Are those the ruins of Annúminas in the background of the Lake Evendim shot?
Btw, I still love/hate the Old Forest.
I finished Ered Luin yesterday and spent most of today travelling through the Shire. I always get caught up a bit there, because it's just so damn beautiful and invites for sightseeing.
Quote from: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
I finished Ered Luin yesterday and spent most of today travelling through the Shire. I always get caught up a bit there, because it's just so damn beautiful and invites for sightseeing.
I love the Shire. I left briefly yesterday to do a hunting quest in Bree but quickly came back :)
So G., you left the Kin after they gave you all that stuff? :huh:
Something that bugs me a bit: I'm LVL19.
I have about 25 quests, some in Bree Land, some in the Old Forest. the Barrow Downs, some in the Shire, and I did a few quests in the Lone Lands. Since I did some of the Lone Land quests that were white for me (or a level below) relatively easily, thus causing me to level up, I'm now left with over two dozen quests that are now light blue, green, one or two even grey - which will make them a too easy walk in the park. At the same time I don't want to give up on them because of the reputation and deeds. :(
They are still worth doing, they get easier which makes them more fun.
Quote from: Syt on May 11, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
Something that bugs me a bit: I'm LVL19.
I have about 25 quests, some in Bree Land, some in the Old Forest. the Barrow Downs, some in the Shire, and I did a few quests in the Lone Lands. Since I did some of the Lone Land quests that were white for me (or a level below) relatively easily, thus causing me to level up, I'm now left with over two dozen quests that are now light blue, green, one or two even grey - which will make them a too easy walk in the park. At the same time I don't want to give up on them because of the reputation and deeds. :(
I'm in same spot.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 11, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
So G., you left the Kin after they gave you all that stuff? :huh:
:lol:
Wouldn't be shocked if he did.
Quote from: katmai on May 11, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 11, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
So G., you left the Kin after they gave you all that stuff? :huh:
Wouldn't be shocked if he did.
Nobody *gave* me anything; I paid for everything that was given to me in platinum or ancient steel ingots and in gold. Who the fuck do you take me for you grotesque fool? <_<
G.
Quote from: Syt on May 11, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
I have about 25 quests, some in Bree Land, some in the Old Forest. the Barrow Downs, some in the Shire, and I did a few quests in the Lone Lands. Since I did some of the Lone Land quests that were white for me (or a level below) relatively easily, thus causing me to level up, I'm now left with over two dozen quests that are now light blue, green, one or two even grey - which will make them a too easy walk in the park. At the same time I don't want to give up on them because of the reputation and deeds. :(
Yeah, I'm level 16/17 and I've still got loads of early Shire quests I forgot to do, but I'm a bit of a completist so I want to finish them :mellow:
Similar here.
Something that I sometimes still find hard to do at times is not rushing through quests. Something I picked up in WoW: collect quest without reading the quest text, only the requirements, fulfil the requirements, return to colelct the reward; i.e. rushing through the game to level up quickly.
With LotRO I find it's much more immersive to actually read the quest texts as plenty of them are very well written, but often I have to force myself to not just click a quest giver and then rush off again immediately.
What's the consensus about Champions and weaponry? 2x1H or 1x2H?
Some skills give damage for main and off hand weapon. A 2H only gives the main hand damage and no offhand damage.
2H is also slower than 1H, so the attack rating is reduced, but on the other hand it's pretty devastating when you use exchange of blows.
Re: quests. The only ones I go back to finish if they are greyed out are the Epic Quests. I am able to complete the deed for finishing x number of quests in an area without doing grey quests so I am not sure what value they have.
Am I missing something?
Quote from: Grallon on May 11, 2009, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 11, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 11, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
So G., you left the Kin after they gave you all that stuff? :huh:
Wouldn't be shocked if he did.
Nobody *gave* me anything; I paid for everything that was given to me in platinum or ancient steel ingots and in gold. Who the fuck do you take me for you grotesque fool? <_<
G.
Thought maybe you had taken on the persona of Jaron.
Stoney, aren't you a metalsmith?
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
What's the consensus about Champions and weaponry? 2x1H or 1x2H?
Some skills give damage for main and off hand weapon. A 2H only gives the main hand damage and no offhand damage.
2H is also slower than 1H, so the attack rating is reduced, but on the other hand it's pretty devastating when you use exchange of blows.
A matter of personal preference, 2H feels too slow for me, I like to dual-wield with two axes :cool:
The heavier/slower the weapon the less likely one is to run out of power, which could be an argument against using two swords.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 13, 2009, 12:48:32 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
What's the consensus about Champions and weaponry? 2x1H or 1x2H?
Some skills give damage for main and off hand weapon. A 2H only gives the main hand damage and no offhand damage.
2H is also slower than 1H, so the attack rating is reduced, but on the other hand it's pretty devastating when you use exchange of blows.
A matter of personal preference, 2H feels too slow for me, I like to dual-wield with two axes :cool:
The heavier/slower the weapon the less likely one is to run out of power, which could be an argument against using two swords.
Another advantage of dual wield is, of course, that you can wield TWO stat boosting items. I found a good purple club and a yellow axe on the AH over the weekend, and I've been using them for 3 or 4 levels ow with nothing better coming up so far (DPS 10.2 and 9.6). ;) Power hasn't really been a problem so far, but then I'm only LVL20 and haven't even been to the Great Barrow yet. :blush:
At the moment I'm mostly finishing some deeds (slayer deeds - yaaawn) to improve my traits. Spiders and brigands in Bree were easy. Wolves in the Shire and Sickle Flies in Bree will take some time.
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 02:51:01 AM
With LotRO I find it's much more immersive to actually read the quest texts as plenty of them are very well written, but often I have to force myself to not just click a quest giver and then rush off again immediately.
Yeah I find the text quite good in its immersiveness. Plus I like the mix of quests in this game, especially in the Shire were a good number of them are terribly peaceable.
I finished all my grey quests last night and I'm now down to getting the green and light blues done before I move on into Bree.
Quote from: Syt on May 13, 2009, 12:51:50 AM
At the moment I'm mostly finishing some deeds (slayer deeds - yaaawn) to improve my traits. Spiders and brigands in Bree were easy. Wolves in the Shire and Sickle Flies in Bree will take some time.
Syt, make sure you check those deeds, and what you get from them.
In fact, you should reference one of the guides out there for your class, decide on what Traits you want, and only do the "Kill X" deeds if they fulfill a trait you want.
You will only ever use 6 or so, and there are more than a dozen. If you go around completing Slayer deeds for all the traits, the quests being too low level problem will be even worse.
Berk, I'm doing that. I'm mostly going for traits that give vitality or might or wound resistance for now as those seem most useful for my champ. :)
I'm also a bit of a completist, though. :blush:
Okay hit lvl 19, besides the quests in barrowdowns, where should i head, the lonelands?
Yup. I think there are some quests out of Trestlebridge you can do as well.
Quote from: Berkut on May 14, 2009, 07:58:36 AM
Yup. I think there are some quests out of Trestlebridge you can do as well.
yeah i came across those as well, just about to hit 20.
I had forgotten how much fun it is to slaughter through the orc camps north of Bree with a dual wield champion. ^_^
Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
Stoney, aren't you a metalsmith?
I am. Metalsmith, tailor, prospector.
Quote from: Stonewall on May 15, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
Stoney, aren't you a metalsmith?
I am. Metalsmith, tailor, prospector.
Excellent!
I need a full set of Thick Elven Armor, please.
KTHXBYE.
Just mail it to Berkut.
Quote from: Berkut on May 15, 2009, 01:11:10 PM
I need a full set of Thick Elven Armor, please.
Why don't you ask the kin leader ? He made mine (hardenned elven - lvl 42) in echange for a stack of platinum ingots and 2 G. Had i remained in the Kin his price was 1 stack of platinum and 2 stacks of dwarf steel. Easily gathered.
Anyhow GF is no longer playing ?
G.
Grumpy sent me a full set of crafting tools and some legendary class items for free....
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 19, 2009, 01:27:45 PM
Grumpy sent me a full set of crafting tools and some legendary class items for free....
That's nice. Is Grumpy someone from here ?
G.
Quote from: Grallon on May 19, 2009, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 19, 2009, 01:27:45 PM
Grumpy sent me a full set of crafting tools and some legendary class items for free....
That's nice. Is Grumpy someone from here ?
G.
Grumpy is part of the kin you so rudely left. :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 19, 2009, 04:09:15 PM
Grumpy is part of the kin you so rudely left. :P
I deleted my account from here that night too... Was a bit frustrated :P
Anyhow I remain available for crafting should one of you need something. I'll be Master Weaponsmith soon (lvl 44 now).
G.
Lvl 47 - halfway to 48. What's cool about Forochel is you can do most of the quests alone. And we're starting to get cyan rewards! :wub:
And GF, where are you bitch ?! You haven't logged in over a month! <_<
G.
Busy or bored. I haven't played a game in weeks.
Now that the weather is turning west coast beautiful, I dont spend much of my free time indoors. I think that any meaningful playing time is largely on hold until the fall.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 25, 2009, 10:16:05 AM
... I think that any meaningful playing time is largely on hold until the fall.
Pity - not that we ever quested together but still. As for LotRO - there's nothing else worth playing. MMP2 isn't ready to switch back to EUIII... Perhaps EVE but I'd need to sample it while I'm *not* drunk next time.
G.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 25, 2009, 10:16:05 AM
Now that the weather is turning west coast beautiful, I dont spend much of my free time indoors. I think that any meaningful playing time is largely on hold until the fall.
Yeah i logged back in to hit lvl 19 and been too busy in weeks since with working weekends and just taking advantage of the great summer weather we have been having already.
I'm 50 at last ! Ten more levels to go ! Questing in Angmar nowadays.
G.
Been 55 for a week now - working on deeds since after entering Moria I realised I wasn't as buff as needed. I had disregarded the virtues but they really boost one up. So yesterday I went to Forochel to kill hundreds (litterally) of Gauradans and Angmarims :bleeding:
This said however I finally have 2 legendary items: a Greatsword of the Third Age and a Captain's badge. Though the upgrade system is clumsy - it's neat to see your weapon lvl up alongside you.
Naturally the best gear comes from the raids and dungeons - which I don't do. In fact, for my class quest I had to procure 4 items dropping from monsters in dungeons. Naturally I chose to pay 10g for them rather than go through that aggravation.
I think for my next alt I will create it on Landroval. I chose Brandywine at everyone' suggestion here yet none of you ever log in anymore; besides the damned server is overpopulated and laggy.
G.
Computer games are for winter (when not skiing) or when its raining.
The latest update (Book 8) was launched last tuesday - and we've had nothing but troubles since. All servers have been down all day - still are as I write. <_<
G.
The developers know that nobody except the real fanatics play MMOs over the summer so they are taking this opportunity to implement stuff over the slow period. :P
I have finally reached 60! ^_^
Here are some pictures of my character (Adaneol Caladel) in Lothlorien.
G.
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1) Me standing in front of the Lady's Fountain in Caras Galadhon.
2) Me sitting atop one of the Talan in Caras Galadhon at sunset.
3) Me kneeling before Galadriel in Celeborn's house.
4) Finally me fighting an orc on the slopes of the Misty Mountains north of Lorien.
:nerd:
Quote from: Armyknife on July 11, 2009, 08:33:10 AM
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Is there any suggested order of lands to do ?
If it's a first time I'd say go with the flow. I'm sure there are guides out there detailing the most efficient way to power lvl as fast as possible. But is that how you want to go through Middle-Earth ? Take your time, read the quest texts and enjoy the ride. Because I assure you that when you make it to Moria you'll feel as if you were back in WoW. :bleeding:
More and more the devs are steering this game towards the WoW model with radiance gear gating and raiding so that people feel the pressure to lvl as fast as possible in order to grind the same raids over and over again... Well if that's your cup of tea go for it but if you're like me and abhor repeating the same shit over and over again you'll follow my advise.
G.
If anyone was waiting to upgrade to Moria, it is only $10 right now.
And this is what I posted on the LotRO forums a few minutes ago:
QuoteWell I tried one of the crafting instances - the one for prospectors. I must say it was rather easy going through the delver mobs and their pack leader winthin the first 15 minutes of the alloted 60 minutes. I then got out and collected my coin.
And that's when it hit me: that is what I'm 'fated' to do should I choose to continue playing this game (or any other game built on the same premise). To do the same thing over and over again; collecting coins so I can get leaves which will allow me to by Lorien trinkets. And when I'm fully 'tealed' I'll be able to attempt repeating the process to collect more coins in exchange for rad gear. And once that is done I'll go on the 'hamster wheel' to try to get better and better LIs...
How utterly, dismally pointless!
It is pointless since the next expension will simply prolong the suffering... with new mobs to kill, to gain XP so you can level to the next cap where you'll start the above all over again to get the next set of *uber* gear... And all this to be able to boast: "I am better than you!".
Primate social dynamics 101...
Pathetic!
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I think now that I've kneeled before Galadriel herself it's time I found a new game!
G.
If you want to try something new, different and without those boring grinds, come try out World of Warcraft.
Quote from: Jaron on July 11, 2009, 08:26:17 PM
If you want to try something new, different and without those boring grinds, come try out World of Warcraft.
:lol: Considering that game, due to its massive success, has infested all others of the genre with its 'common dominator' streamlining mentatlity - and considering I've got a lvl 80 mage sitting on a server somewhere collecting dust - I think I'll pass thank you.
G.
Grallon, go play Eve.
Turbine has announced a new digital expansion for LotRO: Seige of Angmar:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=289328
QuoteNEW FEATURES:
The Epic Conclusion to Volume II: Mines of Moria™ – Under the command of Celeborn and Galadriel, players will fight through vast armies of Orcs alongside the Elves of Lórien in a battle that will take them to Dol Guldur, the fortress of the Ringwraiths. This update includes Book 9 and the Epilogue to the sweeping epic tale begun with the award-winning Mines of Moria expansion.
Increased Level Cap — Players will be able advance their characters up to level 65, gaining access to new traits, virtues, skills and class quests.
Answer the Call of War! – Jump into the heat of battle with the new Skirmishes feature. Skirmishes offer endless action in repeatable, randomized instances where players can create and lead customizable soldiers into battle, training them to greater skill as they earn victories against the forces of shadow. Answer the call of war wherever violence erupts with the new "World Join" function that lets players and their fellowships band together to fight in various locations throughout Middle-earth.
Take up Arms! – Infiltrate the dark jails, deadly arenas and savage stables of Dol Guldur, the fortress of the Ringwraiths, and strike a blow against Sauron's forces in new 3 and 6-player instances. Call upon your fellows to adventure into the most deadly 12-player raid yet and face the ultimate challenge – the Nazgûl Lord!
Major Gameplay Enhancements – Turbine continues to improve the award-winning experience of LOTRO with major improvements to the combat and Legendary Items systems. Players will experience improved responsiveness when in the heat of battle. Players will also be able to create and craft their own customized Second and Third Age Legendary Items from raw materials and grow their weapons' power to level 60. Achieve new Legacies, new titles, and a fourth Runic slot that will make Legendary Items even more unique and powerful.
This is not a full feldged XPack - the Riders of Rohan XPack is due in 2010. But following the Book 9 update that revamped the crafting system somewhat it should breath new life into the game. :)
G.
How does one craft a Second Age item? I do not recall time travel in LotR mythology, outside of the very earliest storylines where a modern youth goes back to the time of his distant ancestors family, that of Elendil and sons.
Other than that, I really wish my ancient rig could run this at pretty levels, as I would love to switch to it from WoW. :(
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on September 07, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
How does one craft a Second Age item? I do not recall time travel in LotR mythology, outside of the very earliest storylines where a modern youth goes back to the time of his distant ancestors family, that of Elendil and sons.
Contentious point for many, including myself. I do not like the Legendary Items system as it is now. One goes through endless numbers of items, deconstruct them in order to acquire legacies and reforge new items until one finally acquire *the* perfect one... A mind-numbing grind through the same instances across Moria.
I'm busy levelling other alts to get the full array of professions for gearing up my main. I quite enjoy the Lore Master.
G.
The Siege of Moria Digital Update will launch on Dec 1st ->
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=293697
Those who upgrade their accounts before oct 31st will get it free. There's also an addon pack one can buy for 19.99$
And since the announcement earlier this pm - the account management site is crashed :D
G.
What is a "Sige" ?
Quote from: Jaron on September 29, 2009, 03:26:57 PM
What is a "Sige" ?
Smartass :)
And I'm going lifer! After 6 months I've gone through the threshold and I'm not burned out as with WoW so for 200$ no more subscriptions fees and the goodies are free as well! :w00t:
G.
I tried to sign up for this. but no mac compat that I could see. :bleeding: mac users are nerds too!
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
I tried to sign up for this. but no mac compat that I could see. :bleeding: mac users are nerds too!
Get Boot camp & dual boot a Windows Partition.
Of all the MMOs I have played I liked this one the best. I just dont have the time to sink into an MMO.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
I tried to sign up for this. but no mac compat that I could see. :bleeding: mac users are nerds too!
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/LOTRO_under_Linux_and_Mac_OS/X
G.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 07, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
I tried to sign up for this. but no mac compat that I could see. :bleeding: mac users are nerds too!
Get Boot camp & dual boot a Windows Partition.
IIRC he is using a PowerPC Mac.
Here's the latest trailer for the upcoming "Seige of Mirkwood" Digital Expension for LotRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRWLtt2KuM
G.
Are they adding any other classes or just adding content?
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 04, 2009, 03:05:52 PM
Are they adding any other classes or just adding content?
Summary of the quick and dirty details:
Siege of Mirkwood will have a base price of $19.99. As with Moria last year, we're going to have a set of early upgrade offers that are very compelling. We're not quite ready to unveil those details yet, but we'll keep you posted.
The epic story continues on in Volume 3 as a regular content update early next year. Sounds like a standard free book update, but hasnt been confirmed.
Some of the improvements to the game coming with Mirkwood will benefit everyone, but the key features will require the Mirkwood upgrade.
Skirmishes are PvE, and should not be directly competing with PvMP.
Skirmishes are not session play.
The new raid is not a one-boss raid. Nuff Said.
100+ hours of new content
Level cap increased to level 65 with access to new traits, virtues, skills and class quests
Legendary items will now be maxed at level 60- no word on if this includes existing legendaries or only new ones.
Legendary items will gain a 4th runic slot, new legacies and new titles.
Craft and customize 3rd and 2nd Age Legendary items. We can already craft them, so its the "customize" part that is of interested- no word on what it means yet, but there is a Dev Diary about this coming soon.
Skirmishes reward experience-points, complimenting the level up experience, and can be accessed as low as level 30.
Map of Mirkwood
Videos
TenTonHammer Interview: Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3
What are Skirmishes, and how will they work?
"The Skirmish system will allow all players -- raiders, casuals, mid-level, high-level -- access to the same content.
Twelve new Skirmish instances will be available in addition to a pair of tutorial instances designed to introduce players to the system. Each of these instances is scalable based on the number of players; they each accept one, three, six, or twelve players at a time, with the deficit made up for by player-created NPC soldiers- to make a grand total of 24. Additionally, many of the instances are scalable by level; for instance, one skirmish which features an assault upon and defense of Weathertop will accept players from level 30 to 65. Each instance has nine optional challenges, each of which awards skirmish points -- more on those in a moment. These challenges are randomized, as are the enemies inside the instance (within certain logical limits, of course), so you will not likely have the same experience twice.
For example, Jeffrey Steefel demoed the opening of one of these Skirmishes in which a number of NPCs have been locked within the Prancing Pony, and Sharkey's men are threatening to burn it down. Your job is to defend the Bree-town landmark. The Pony itself has hit points during this Skirmish, and you are awarded Skirmish points based upon how well you defend the Pony. Let the building's hit points fall to zero and you fail your primary objective.
Now, Skirmish points: These are your rewards for completing your challenges -- primary and optional -- in each instance. They can be used to customize and advance your soldiers. Soldiers are quite customizable: You can assign them traits, just like a player character, and you can alter their cosmetic appearance. The Skirmish point system will even be tied into MyLOTRO, where there will be leaderboards on which you can compare yourself to your friends.
You can enter a Skirmish from anywhere in the game world, as can your friends from their own locations in the game world. When you're done with the Skirmish -- each of them is designed to last thirty to forty minutes -- you will be transported back to your prior location in the world." [source: LOTRO Vault]
Each player has 1 Soldier. A group of 12 doing an instance would have 12 Soldiers total. So the player group would be leading the equivalent of a second raid group in the 12 mans. Though each player would only have control of their own soldier. And yes, you can still use any pets/banners you would normally have in addition to your soldier. [source: Dev post]
Skirmishes reward experience-points, complimenting the level up experience, and can be accessed as low as level 30. [source: Dev post]
Skirmishes are PvE, and should not be directly competing with PvMP. [source: Dev post]
Skirmishes are not session play. [source: Dev post]
Soldiers can only be called and utilized while in a skirmish. [source: Dev post]
What is "Enhanced Combat Responsiveness"?
Here is a quick explanation from Floon:
Autoattacks will not delay firing a skill. What this does mean is that animation have a chance to preempt autoattack anims in such a way as to produce a pop in the anim transition that isn't there right now. [source: Dev post]
What is "World Join"?
Zombie Columbus goes in to details about what it is, and what it will actually be called:
World-join is a bit of a misnomer. The name of that part of the overall Skirmish system is likely being changed to the more informative "Skirmish-join." Remember the way half the community calls Fellowship Maneouvers Conjunctions because that's what it was in beta? This is one of those situations.
Well, what IS Skirmish-join? There will be a dev diary on it (I'm working on it now) but the short version is it will be how players can enter the new Skirmish spaces. It's a UI that will allow players to select the group size, level, and difficulty of a Skirmish, and then be instantly transported to the Skirmish. Emphasis on "Skirmish", the system does not, as of now, interact with Instances, PvMP, Battle Instances or anything else. [source: Dev post]
Epic Book 9 and beyond:
"Under the command of Celeborn and Galadriel, players will fight through vast armies of Orcs alongside the Elves of Lórien in a battle that will take them to Dol Guldur, the fortress of the Ringwraiths. This update includes Book 9, which will have the most chapters of any book to date, and the Epilogue to the sweeping epic tale begun with the Mines of Moria expansion. No word yet on just how many chapters, or possibly books, the "epilogue" will contain." [source: LOTRO Vault]
The epic story continues on in Volume 3 as a regular content update early next year. (Sounds like a standard free book update, but hasnt been confirmed) [source: Dev post]
NEW! Epic Book 9 and much of its Epilogue take place in Mirkwood, so you'll need 'Siege of Mirkwood' for it. [source: Dev post]
NEW! Epic Book 9 will be able to be started without having completed Book 8 (or presumably any of the other books excluding Book 1 which you need to get in Moria). [source: Dev post]
NEW! There's a lot of meat to Epic Book 9: instances, skirmishes, monster-hunting, and a few surprises. [source: Dev post]
Legendary Items:
Legendary items will now be maxed at level 60- no word on if this includes existing legendaries or only new ones.
Legendary items will gain a 4th runic slot, new legacies and new titles.
NEW! The 4th runic will be a crafted runic. [source: TenTonHammer]
Craft and customize 3rd and 2nd Age Legendary items. We can already craft them, so its the "customize" part that is of interested- no word on what it means yet, but there is a Dev Diary about this coming soon.
Overhaul to mounts and new mounts:
"Mounts are being changed over to skills, not items. This means you will no longer be required to carry a mount in your inventory. In your skills panel, there will be a "mount" tab, which will list your current stable of mounts -- your horse, your other horse, your goat. And, because of mounts becoming skills, a number of issues with mounts will simply cease to exist: You will now be able to pass into instances and new zones while on your mount; you can now interact with NPCs (including vendors) from your mount; and you can now use emotes (with complete animations) on your mount. In other mount news, there's a brand new goat, the Wild Goat." [source: LOTRO Vault]
You can have multiple horses. Each is a seperate skill, but there is no limit I am aware of on the number you can have. There will be a Dev Diary on the new system, so that should give you a ton of info when it's published. [source: Dev post]
Account-wide Storage Space
"Also on the list of changes is the addition of shared storage space for accounts. Currently, shared storage space appears to be limited to 50 items, though this was likely to increase over time in a similar manner to purchasing further storage space for your character's Vault." [source: LOTRO Vault]
"It is unconfirmed if this is a sign of "bind on account" items being on the horizon." [source: LOTRO Vault]
NEW! And just like vaults, what's put in at one vault NPC can be taken out at another. As long as the characters are all on the same account. [source: Dev post]
New Raid: Dol Guldur:
"The burning question I am sure on everyones mind, radiance, has not been addressed- so no word on if and how much is required. The primary raid will be in Dol Guldur, and will feature a multi-boss instance culminating with a fight featuring both a battle against a Fell Beast and, finally, the Lieutenant of Dol Guldur, second-in-command among the Nazgul." [source: LOTRO Vault]
NEW! The new raid will also contain a cluster of smaller instances with both 3-man and 6-man spaces. [source: Press Release]
And finally...
It was hinted that we should all make sure we are signed up for the Turbine Beta Rewards program. You can sign up over at http://myaccount.turbine.com/
Free week and decided to try it out again, and now I remember why I quit in the first place. It's sooooooooo boring :yawn:
The expension came out tuesday... And I'm so unexcited about it! More grind, more radiance gear gating, more raids... *sigh*. And WoW is even worse without the Tolkien lore. I guess I'm just burned out with MMOs.
G.
Quote from: Grallon on December 04, 2009, 09:44:33 AM
The expension came out tuesday... And I'm so unexcited about it! More grind, more radiance gear gating, more raids... *sigh*. And WoW is even worse without the Tolkien lore. I guess I'm just burned out with MMOs.
G.
Me too.
You should give Aion a go.
Quote from: Grallon on December 04, 2009, 09:44:33 AM
I guess I'm just burned out with MMOs.
Same here... I cancelled WoW last week.
Quote from: Jaron on December 04, 2009, 09:45:32 AM
You should give Aion a go.
A cross between console fidgety games and manga? I think not.
G.
I have: purchased this. :ph34r:
The first 20 levels were some of the most fun I've ever had in an MMO. Just running around the Shire itself was worth the purchase price.
For me though once you got past Bree it was endless missions to kill orcs, rats, and wolves. Then more orcs, rats, and wolves. Rinse and repeat...
I need a break from WoW. The lore and backstory there just isn't as engaging as Tolkien. The lack of continuity and the massive tongue in cheek nature of a lot of it kills the mood for me in WoW. I'm hoping there's some rp elements in game to keep me interested. Also, I guess there's instances as a big part of the game after 20 these days. Either way, I'm looking forward to it. I enjoyed it during the beta way back when, but my computer wasn't good enough to do much with the graphics. The one I have now isn't great, but it can handle a hell of a lot more.
Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
The first 20 levels were some of the most fun I've ever had in an MMO. Just running around the Shire itself was worth the purchase price.
For me though once you got past Bree it was endless missions to kill orcs, rats, and wolves. Then more orcs, rats, and wolves. Rinse and repeat...
I dont know. I had a lot of fun seeing the sites described in the books throughout my adventures there. You are right about there not being a lot of variety in the types of mobs but that is just staying true to the book. I enjoyed it. I stopped playing mainly because they way the crafting and attribute systems just turned into grinds (kill x number of y whether you want to or not to get kill points or mats) I
i still play.
Breaking news!!!
Warner Bros has just bought out Turbine Inc, the studio that gave us DD Online and of course LotRO -> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/57858/WARNER_BROS_HOME_ENTERTAINMENT_GROUP_ACQUIRES_TURBINEINC.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/57858/WARNER_BROS_HOME_ENTERTAINMENT_GROUP_ACQUIRES_TURBINEINC.php)
The boards are abuzz with all kinds of rumors and anxiety about the future of the game. Who knows now if they'll do any future expansion...
G.
Wonder if my lifetime subscription will stay.
Quote from: Solmyr on April 21, 2010, 01:14:31 PM
Wonder if my lifetime subscription will stay.
't would hardly be a positive news-item if the company unilaterally ended those lifetime-subs. Mass breach of contract -cause that is what it would be- is bad advertissement.
Good, now that I've stopped playing WoW I might actually come back to this more often.
Book XXXI: Bugs Bunny is introduced as a boss. :(
Marvin the Martian sacking the Shire in search of his Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. :yes:
Massive thread necro for announcing I've decided to give this game another go. Hopefully it still has people floating around the server I want to go to (Landroval). I almost wish I'd dropped the loot for the lifetime subscription back in the day. :lol:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 20, 2012, 04:32:06 AM
Massive thread necro for announcing I've decided to give this game another go. Hopefully it still has people floating around the server I want to go to (Landroval). I almost wish I'd dropped the loot for the lifetime subscription back in the day. :lol:
Dude. Guild Wars 2 starts in 5 days. It has graphics style similar to LOTRO but is superior in every other way. Why not play that?
Because it's not set in Middle Earth?
Anyway, I tend to poke LOTRO every few months. My chars are all on Laurelorn/Laurelin (or whatever the EN-RP server is called).
I haven't played since May. :)
Might give it another go and lvl up my 62 mini. But it's on Crickhollow. Or start another char if one would like to duo the process.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 20, 2012, 04:52:23 AM
Because it's not set in Middle Earth?
Anyway, I tend to poke LOTRO every few months. My chars are all on Laurelorn/Laurelin (or whatever the EN-RP server is called).
laurelin.
trying to get as much of the main story done before we enter Rohan proper
Marti: I much prefer the Middle Earth setting as well as the fact that I don't think my rig can handle Guild Wars II. Nice to see those who still play are on Laurelin. When I last played, Landroval was the RP server for North America, but it appears Laurelin has opened up as well and is actually a better location for rp. I plan on checking them both out and seeing which intrigues me more.
My main on Laurelin is Solmyr, human loremaster, in case someone wants to add me as friend. At least when I'm around. :)
I've had a lifetime sub (been on Laurelin), but none of my characters made it far into the Lonelands. I loved the setting and what they've done with the property, but I just always got bored around that point. :blush:
Heh, I haven't made it out of Bree-land yet. Also had a lifetime sub, so I'm sitting around collecting store points now.
Isn't LOTRO now f2p?
It is, but you need to buy "quest packs" and such to get access to some stuff if you don't sub or have a lifetime account. If you have a sub or a lifetime account you have full access to everything (still need to get expansions for some content, like Moria or Rohan), and get a monthly allowance in store points.
Quote from: Martinus on August 21, 2012, 02:38:57 AM
Isn't LOTRO now f2p?
It is, but Lotro Store is there for reason. :glare:
Quote from: Syt on August 21, 2012, 02:40:19 AM
It is, but you need to buy "quest packs" and such to get access to some stuff if you don't sub or have a lifetime account. If you have a sub or a lifetime account you have full access to everything (still need to get expansions for some content, like Moria or Rohan), and get a monthly allowance in store points.
Ok understood. I actually kinda liked LOTRO - out of the all "failed" MMORPGs that did not manage to challenge WoW, this one was most fun to play, due to the lore reasons. Does it hold up after all these years?
If not challenging WoW is the measure for failure have fun with your soon to be failure of an mmorpg in gw2.
Quote from: sbr on August 21, 2012, 03:25:37 AM
If not challenging WoW is the measure for failure have fun with your soon to be failure of an mmorpg in gw2.
I'm not so sure about it.
You see, WoW did create a new standard in MMORPGs because they took the familiar experience of Everquest and other MMORPGs and asked themselves "ok what isn't fun?" and either completely removed or improved these things (I haven't played a lot of MMORPGs before WoW but I understand these things were heavy penalties for death, lootable player corpses in PvP, no structured PvP, no instances, kill stealing, etc.). And then pretty much every single MMORPG that came afterwards did exactly the same thing as they did, only with a worse delivery.
Now, I feel like GW2 is doing the same thing that Blizzard did with WoW - they took WoW and asked what isn't fun: static combat, static quests with questgivers, not being able to play with friends of different levels, high levels in low level areas, remote end game/reliance on top level, too many skills on your bar, travel time, first-to-cap kill stealing, first-to-cap ore/herb stealing, corpse runs, the holy trinity (and yeah some MMORPGs tried some of these things already but did not deliver) - and either removed or improved them.
So yeah, GW2 may fail, but I think they are creating a new standard. And I think the delivery is top notch.
I played WoW trial 2 weeks, and I didn't like it. But I don't think MMORPGs are the genre for me anyway.
I like LotRO because of setting and lore. And it ages very well. The most fun I find there is running instances/raids. Difficulty level makes it fun every time, even if I know them by heart now. Too bad most of them in LotRO don't scale with level, and drops are vendor trash in general.
Made it to 15 today. Rather grindy, but not to the point where I want to quit. Crafting is actually quite useful for a change, which is nice. I can make stuff that is actually useful instead of having to wait till max level and sink ungodly sums of money into it a la WoW. The RP, or total lack of, on Laurelin so far leaves a lot to be desired. I'm thinking of checking out Landroval, even though it is only RP encouraged and not a full RP server.
You know, people RPing are the ones with name in white.
You can turn rp mode on using "/rp on" command in chat, so others see you're RPing type.
Haha. No, no I did not. I'm used to having TRP2 going in WoW and the community that exists there. I've only made it to Bree, but all I've seen of really anyone talking is a smattering of mixed IC and OOC drama in the Pony.
RP chat is off by default too, I think you should turn it on in chat filters. There should be also global rp chat, but I don't know exact name, probably something like grp. You would have to join it manually.
I suggest asking about it on advice channel. Considering it's rp server someone will probably explain details. Otherwise try lotro forum.
Thanks for the tips. It's appreciated. :thumbsup: