https://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you?utm_term=.vrlpwLyMZ#.ivZebYLKJ
QuoteYou live with 48 out of 100 points of privilege.
You're not privileged at all. You grew up with an intersectional, complicated identity, and life never let you forget it. You've had your fair share of struggles, and you've worked hard to overcome them. We do not live in an ideal world and you had to learn that the hard way. It is not your responsibility to educate those with more advantages than you, but if you decide you want to, go ahead and send them this quiz. Hopefully it will help.
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Boom! (Though I'm not sure why this recently resurfaced on buzzfeed)
Pffft, awful choices...who hasn't been called a fag; it's called junior high school.
And who wouldn't want to touch my hair, it's fucking gorgeous.
What a horrible questionnaire.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2016, 02:25:02 PM
Pffft, awful choices...who hasn't been called a fag; it's called junior high school.
And who wouldn't want to touch my hair, it's fucking gorgeous.
I haven't ever been called 'dyke'. -_-
:lol:
QuoteHow Privileged Are You?
You live with 70 out of 100 points of privilege.
You're quite privileged. You've had a few struggles, but overall your life has been far easier than most. This is not a bad thing, nor is it something to be ashamed of. But you should be aware of your advantages and work to help others who don't have them. Thank you for checking your privilege.
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:cool:
This guidance from the central committee on who we should feel sorry for is very helpful.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2016, 02:25:02 PM
Pffft, awful choices...who hasn't been called a fag; it's called junior high school.
And who wouldn't want to touch my hair, it's fucking gorgeous.
I haven't ever been called 'dyke'. -_-
You are not hairy enough.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
This guidance from the central committee on who we should feel sorry for is very helpful.
I love that garbose has to stoop to accessing buzzfeed to feed his persecution complex. With his education, job and flat in central London, he is one of the most privileged people here. But he sucks dick, so he has it worse than a starving child in Ethiopia, apparently.
"You're among the most privileged people in the world."
And I don't even have cable. I mean, only poor people watch flow tv these days.
I got 38 out of 100.
I'm pretty sure that garbon's family is more well-off financially than mine, but I've got to question a survey that scores a gay, black American as more privileged than a straight, white American.
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
This guidance from the central committee on who we should feel sorry for is very helpful.
I love that garbose has to stoop to accessing buzzfeed to feed his persecution complex. With his education, job and flat in central London, he is one of the most privileged people here. But he sucks dick, so he has it worse than a starving child in Ethiopia, apparently.
I don't think too many starving Ethiopians post here.
QuoteYou live with 30 out of 100 points of privilege.
You're not privileged at all. You grew up with an intersectional, complicated identity, and life never let you forget it. You've had your fair share of struggles, and you've worked hard to overcome them. We do not live in an ideal world and you had to learn that the hard way. It is not your responsibility to educate those with more advantages than you, but if you decide you want to, go ahead and send them this quiz. Hopefully it will help.
though I ignored the spirit of a lot of these questions, which by itself probably means I'm privileged :Embarrass:
I like how "never taken medication for my mental health" is a privilege. :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
This guidance from the central committee on who we should feel sorry for is very helpful.
I love that garbose has to stoop to accessing buzzfeed to feed his persecution complex. With his education, job and flat in central London, he is one of the most privileged people here. But he sucks dick, so he has it worse than a starving child in Ethiopia, apparently.
There are 14 questions linked directly to sexual orientation (plus six that are generic to "identity"). There are three dealing with gender identity, five dealing with gender, five dealing with religion, and eight dealing with race.
I wouldn't have thought that privilege would so closely track sexual orientation, but I guess now I know better.
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I love that garbose Martinus has to stoop to accessing buzzfeed Breitbart to feed his persecution complex. With his education, job and flat in central London Europe, he is one of the most privileged people here. But he sucks dick, so he has it worse than a starving child in Ethiopia, apparently.
How many different ways can they score a point for someone who is gay?
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
This guidance from the central committee on who we should feel sorry for is very helpful.
I love that garbose has to stoop to accessing buzzfeed to feed his persecution complex. With his education, job and flat in central London, he is one of the most privileged people here. But he sucks dick, so he has it worse than a starving child in Ethiopia, apparently.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.disquscdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fmediaembed%2Fimages%2F3712%2F1599%2Foriginal.gif%3Fw%3D800%26amp%3Bh&hash=3e724c273f71263c5fdf924414a22cccb62b98dd)
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
And where are the "I am not a refugee", or "My village was not taken over by anti-government rebels", or "I've never witnessed a warcrime".
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
And where are the "I am not a refugee", or "My village was not taken over by anti-government rebels", or "I've never witnessed a warcrime".
It's a dishonest propaganda piece. I don't think you should expect much.
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
And where are the "I am not a refugee", or "My village was not taken over by anti-government rebels", or "I've never witnessed a warcrime".
You gotta know your target audience.
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
To be fair those are the people most likely to sit around trying to figure out how privileged they are.
Tied garb.
A lot of these I have no idea. What extent do I have to be discriminated against because of my skin color in order for it to count? I feel like it would have to be something more significant than being told that 'sorry I don't date white dudes'.
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And where are the "I am not a refugee", or "My village was not taken over by anti-government rebels", or "I've never witnessed a warcrime".
Not reading buzzfeed. :unsure:
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 02:44:59 PM
A lot of these I have no idea. What extent do I have to be discriminated against because of my skin color in order for it to count? I feel like it would have to be something more significant than being told that 'sorry I don't date white dudes'.
Then that probably doesn't count. ;)
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
Yeah, the survey scores "My parents pay some of my bills" as a point of privilege. I score it as an indication of loserdom.
And apparently, people who have cable are more privileged than people who've ditched cable for satellite. I'd buy that back in the 80s, when trailer trash had those 10-ft satellite dishes in their yards, but not now. And I've not always had cable anyway, because I'm old enough that back when I was a little kid, nobody had cable--everybody had a TV antenna on their roof or on a 20-ft or so tall pole in their yard.
Quote from: dps on June 20, 2016, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
And this seems very much focused on, say, north american college students. My parents don't pay my bills because I'm in my 40s. Same thing - I have no student debt because I've been out of school for 16 years.
Yeah, the survey scores "My parents pay some of my bills" as a point of privilege. I score it as an indication of loserdom.
And apparently, people who have cable are more privileged than people who've ditched cable for satellite. I'd buy that back in the 80s, when trailer trash had those 10-ft satellite dishes in their yards, but not now. And I've not always had cable anyway, because I'm old enough that back when I was a little kid, nobody had cable--everybody had a TV antenna on their roof or on a 20-ft or so tall pole in their yard.
You had a Pole? :console:
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 02:44:59 PM
A lot of these I have no idea. What extent do I have to be discriminated against because of my skin color in order for it to count? I feel like it would have to be something more significant than being told that 'sorry I don't date white dudes'.
if you don't have a tan and someone has commented on it, that counts :)
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 02:44:59 PM
A lot of these I have no idea. What extent do I have to be discriminated against because of my skin color in order for it to count? I feel like it would have to be something more significant than being told that 'sorry I don't date white dudes'.
Has someone made fun of the way you dance?
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 02:45:50 PM
Then that probably doesn't count. ;)
Likewise I was bullied quite a bit as a kid, particularly with lots of gay slurs. But I wasn't gay. But then I could have been, I didn't know my sexuality at the time. So what does that mean? Does that count? No idea. Yeah this seems mainly focused on somebody growing up recently who has an understanding of concepts like 'identity' and 'gender' which were not tossed around the playground back in the 80s.
Likewise the black kids in Middle School used to beat the shit out of me regularly being a rather socially isolated skinny dude. I was also one of very few white kids in an overwhelmingly African-American class. So...did they beat the shit out of me and bully me because I was white or just because I was an easy target? I don't know I cannot see into their souls. How am I supposed to know that?
I don't think this experience really impacted me much since once I went through puberty everybody left me alone, so I don't see how it makes me less privileged just because kids were shit to me a few decades ago.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 02:44:59 PM
A lot of these I have no idea. What extent do I have to be discriminated against because of my skin color in order for it to count? I feel like it would have to be something more significant than being told that 'sorry I don't date white dudes'.
Has someone made fun of the way you dance?
Well of course that goes without saying :P
It isn't ever really a question of how privileged you feel, it is a question of how much of a victim you can construct and demand attention for...
Languish is quite angsty today. Most be all that white male privilege being called out. ^_^
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Languish is quite angsty today. Most be all that white male privilege being called out. ^_^
irony much?
What if you are attacked if for being part of a race you aren't?
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Languish is quite angsty today. Most be all that white male privilege being called out. ^_^
Not really. Putting down I am 'white' 'male' and 'heterosexual' were by far the easiest and clearest boxes to check. :P
I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 03:05:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Languish is quite angsty today. Most be all that white male privilege being called out. ^_^
irony much?
I'm not particularly angsty today.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
Nah, pretty much a basic human thing.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality
I wish more Canadians got the shit kicked out of them. Sorry, oot of them.
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality)
Christ.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 03:05:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Languish is quite angsty today. Most be all that white male privilege being called out. ^_^
irony much?
I'm not particularly angsty today.
Yeah, this looks to be pretty much your normal level.
One of the few good things about Otherkin is that they're not protected by human rights.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2016, 03:16:51 PM
I wish more Canadians got the shit kicked out of them. Sorry, oot of them.
"I have never been mocked because of my accent" - removed the checkmark.
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Damn dude you need to get more privilege.
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
The survey is clearly targeted at American young people and has some significant blind spots because of that, but it still scored me where I expected at "quite privileged".
Started but I gave up. Some of them make no sense.
Surely having to do taxes would be a sign of being privileged?
A big part of the reason I studied abroad is it was cheaper
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
It's an attempt to muddle any and all waters and make society more stupid.
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Started but I gave up. Some of them make no sense.
Surely having to do taxes would be a sign of being privileged?
A big part of the reason I studied abroad is it was cheaper
Not in a context where the choice is "do your own taxes" or "have an accountant do your taxes for you."
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 03:24:54 PM
Damn dude you need to get more privilege.
White guys aren't privileged.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 20, 2016, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 03:24:54 PM
Damn dude you need to get more privilege.
White guys aren't privileged.
You know who's privileged? The mentally ill of the Congo who go unmedicated. :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
Also that people having been mean to you at some point actually has anything to do with how privileged you are in life. It just may mean you spent time with huge assholes. Surely it should be something systematic that actually limited your opportunities in some way rather than simply being having to put up with some shit at some point.
Quote from: Jacob on June 20, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Not in a context where the choice is "do your own taxes" or "have an accountant do your taxes for you."
Ah I see. I didn't see where they were going there. I was like 'wouldn't never paying taxes mean you are less privileged?'
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2016, 03:37:53 PM
Also that people having been mean to you at some point actually has anything to do with how privileged you are in life. It just may mean you spent time with huge assholes. Surely it should be something systematic that actually limited your opportunities in some way rather than simply being having to put up with some shit at some point.
Only certain kinds of meanness are taken into consideration.
I gave up, a visit to Japan in 1984 to see my wealthy girlfriend was greatly reducing my privilege, didn't seem right.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:07:21 PM
What if you are attacked if for being part of a race you aren't?
For example, you walk around a hippodrome and someone attacks you thinking you're being part of a chariot race...
Why would you be skulking around a hippodrome? Freak.
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Why would you be skulking around a hippodrome? Freak.
What if you're feeling blue?
55/100
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Despite the American bias, I guess it's about right.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
Which is reflective of how poorly the test is put together. If it was clear there would be no need to overthink.
If there is one thing that can be said about the progressive left it's that they are not know for overthinking any topic.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 20, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
Bastard!
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 20, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
I don't think that ws so much a troll, as throwing red meat into the lion cage.
I like how it allows for almost every kind of 'identity' but assumes you must have a religion.
Quote from: Maladict on June 20, 2016, 04:17:28 PM
I like how it allows for almost every kind of 'identity' but assumes you must have a religion.
Noticed that eh?
As an atheist, I had trouble with the religion questions. How I am supposed to determine whether my city has a place for worshiping my (non)faith? :hmm:
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 20, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
Ahh yes, the Marty defense.
Poll looks like a pick 'n'mix for blue-haired, body-positive/landwhale, genderfluid, special snowflake tumblrinas to grab choice real estate in the Victim Olympics. ^_^
Quote from: celedhring on June 20, 2016, 04:25:19 PM
As an atheist, I had trouble with the religion questions. How I am supposed to determine whether my city has a place for worshiping my (non)faith? :hmm:
That's the thing about Atheism, It requires so little of your time.
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 20, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
Ahh yes, the Marty defense.
Well what do you think - that I honestly thought this quiz was a good way to determine privilege?
Also, the Marti defense would involve defending one's vile actions/words.
I'm immensely privileged because of the country I was born in, even more so because of precisely where in it was.
Within this country I'm not very privileged, which is a relief. :bowler:
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
Why would you suggest that?
Do you think examination of the dialogue that Oppressed Minorities have with each other has no value?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Why would you suggest that?
Because it was a throw away buzzfeed quiz?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Do you think examination of the dialogue that Oppressed Minorities have with each other has no value?
I think such dialogues are much broader than you are portraying them. For one, they don't have to be antagonistic ranking exercises.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 20, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
As Beeb mentioned, this is definitely intended for a North American college audience, but more than that, I think it's an attempt to codify the relative suffering weights assigned to each Oppressed Minority Group(tm).
I'd suggest you are overthinking it.
But you knew we would :P
Of course, Languish can't resist a troll. :goodboy:
Ahh yes, the Marty defense.
Well what do you think - that I honestly thought this quiz was a good way to determine privilege?
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Quote from: mongers on June 20, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
I'm immensely privileged because of the country I was born in, even more so because of precisely where in it was.
Within this country I'm not very privileged, which is a relief. :bowler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw) :contract:
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Don't post crap like this and then act like you pulled one over on people when they note how crap it is - what else is there to say?
Personally, believing that you would post something like this as a troll rather than seriously doesn't make you look *better*.
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Don't post crap like this and then act like you pulled one over on people when they note how crap it is - what else is there to say?
Personally, believing that you would post something like this as a troll rather than seriously doesn't make you look *better*.
I think it is a time honoured Languish tradition. Posting crap that gets people riled up (as is online quizzes!). I mean look how many posts this thread already got. That's not some pulling the wool over people's eyes though. :unsure:
And actually, I think that puts me in a much better light as opposed to say a person who has his life validated by online quizzes. :hmm:
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Don't post crap like this and then act like you pulled one over on people when they note how crap it is - what else is there to say?
Personally, believing that you would post something like this as a troll rather than seriously doesn't make you look *better*.
Maybe he just posted it because, like most of us, we post shit on here sometimes?
Quote from: mongers on June 20, 2016, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Don't post crap like this and then act like you pulled one over on people when they note how crap it is - what else is there to say?
Personally, believing that you would post something like this as a troll rather than seriously doesn't make you look *better*.
Maybe he just posted it because, like most of us, we post shit on here sometimes?
Nah, that's not enough of a deep examination of my character so couldn't be that simple.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:47:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Why would you suggest that?
Because it was a throw away buzzfeed quiz?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 20, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Do you think examination of the dialogue that Oppressed Minorities have with each other has no value?
I think such dialogues are much broader than you are portraying them. For one, they don't have to be antagonistic ranking exercises.
A throwaway test which includes all the main recognizable Oppressed Minority groups, thus was constructed by someone who has at least passing familiarity with the state of identity politics on US campuses.
I made no mention of the broadness of the dialogue. In fact my use of the indefinite article, as in "an attempt to codify," should have made it clear this is not the all-encompassing, final word on the subject.
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I think you honestly thought this would be more evidence of how not privileged you are...
Well I'm sorry that a) you think that lowly of me and b) after over a decade, know so little about me.
Not sure what else to say.
Don't post crap like this and then act like you pulled one over on people when they note how crap it is - what else is there to say?
Personally, believing that you would post something like this as a troll rather than seriously doesn't make you look *better*.
I never took Garbo's post as being "Hey look at this awesome quizz" - more like "look at this ridiculous BS I found on Buzzfeed - I know you guys will get a kick out of it".
I mean according to the quizz Garbon is "not privileged", likely due to being a gay, black man.
But Ivy league educated, international pharma employee, American expat living in London Garbon sure spells out "privileged" to me.
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 04:59:54 PM
Nah, that's not enough of a deep examination of my character so couldn't be that simple.
Yeah, I was wondering that too, how do you get to a meaningful understanding of an individual from just the threads they post of languish.
Shrug. Garbon has posted plenty before and is perfectly willing to make claims about other peoples "privilege", so why would it be unreasonable to presume he is willing to do the same about his own, or lack thereof?
Perhaps he was just trolling then as well...?
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
Ivy league educated
:contract:
mongers: See your cropping fell off the wagon. :thumbsdown:
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Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
Ivy league educated
:contract:
mongers: See your cropping fell off the wagon. :thumbsdown:
:D
:Embarrass:
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
But Ivy league educated, international pharma employee, American expat living in London Garbon sure spells out "privileged" to me.
I'm not Ivy league educated and I don't work at a pharmaceutical company. 2 lies and a truth? :P
Quote from: Berkut on June 20, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
Shrug. Garbon has posted plenty before and is perfectly willing to make claims about other peoples "privilege", so why would it be unreasonable to presume he is willing to do the same about his own, or lack thereof?
Perhaps he was just trolling then as well...?
Do people in your world generally say 'Boom!' when they are being serious?
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 20, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
But Ivy league educated, international pharma employee, American expat living in London Garbon sure spells out "privileged" to me.
I'm not Ivy league educated and I don't work at a pharmaceutical company. 2 lies and a truth? :P
Oh come on, your school is in that caliber for sure, and the fact that you chose to not go to school in the horrible Northeast shows you're smarter than most Ivy Leaguers anyway. :sleep:
Quote from: garbon on June 20, 2016, 02:20:36 PM
Boom! (Though I'm not sure why this recently resurfaced on buzzfeed)
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You live with 46 out of 100 points of privilege.
You're not privileged at all. You grew up with an intersectional, complicated identity, and life never let you forget it. You've had your fair share of struggles, and you've worked hard to overcome them. We do not live in an ideal world and you had to learn that the hard way. It is not your responsibility to educate those with more advantages than you, but if you decide you want to, go ahead and send them this quiz. Hopefully it will help.
very americano-centric though. Going to private school here is no big deal. Government pays 60% of the bill and there are charities, or discount for large families. My best friend is a simple farmer and he will send all his 3 kids to private school, starting next year with the 1st.
And the questions about religion... what if I have no religion? Am i supposed to complain because there is no such thing as a place of worship for atheists? That's weird.
Also, 77 out of 100. :cool:
Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
If you go by Raz here, by Govory somewhere else, by Mike in your real life and to you these are all different people with which you can engage conversations at any time, then you are not priviledged.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 20, 2016, 03:33:21 PM
White guys aren't privileged.
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Seedy, do you have a special catty crazy cat person site you get those from?
google.com is my anti-drug.
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I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
If you go by Raz here, by Govory somewhere else, by Mike in your real life and to you these are all different people with which you can engage conversations at any time, then you are not priviledged.
Who's mike? I thought you guys knew my name. It's Brad.
Tell your doc to add Abilify
It called me Adolf Hitler.
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Quote from: Razgovory on June 20, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
I don't know why garbon foists buzzfeed on us. It's not like we've hurt him or anything.
I got confused about "Identities". What, like more than one? Is this some sort of crazy thing?
If you go by Raz here, by Govory somewhere else, by Mike in your real life and to you these are all different people with which you can engage conversations at any time, then you are not priviledged.
Who's mike? I thought you guys knew my name. It's Brad.
I'm bad with names :)
I reject the premise of this quiz.
Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
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Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
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Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
Quote from: garbon on June 21, 2016, 06:43:02 AM
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
No.
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Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
On the contrary, these quizzes are dreamed up by people who old a moral world view based on victimhood.
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Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
On the contrary, these quizzes are dreamed up by people who old a moral world view based on victimhood.
On what evidence do you base that? Do you follow the work of Rega Jha, Tommy Wesely and Jessica Massa?
Quote from: Zoupa on June 20, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
Tell your doc to add Abilify
That's not a fun one.
The privilege and intersectionality bullshit basically abrogates personal responsibility. You suck at life not because you are dumb or lazy, but because you are "unprivileged"; conversely if you achieve success it's not your own doing but because you had an "easy life" so you should feel guilty about it.
It also strips people of their individuality and character, instead seeing them as simple cogs whose actions and life paths are only determined by the identity groups to which they belong.
To add insult to injury, most "metrics" used to measure "privilege" would probably conclude that Berkut had a more privileged upbringing than garbon.
Thanks Mart, was too lazy to type.
What's worse, the constant emphasis on privilege and lack of personal accountability makes me *less* empathetic to people who face genuine barriers. I regularly encounter people who suck at their job and blame everything from "the patriarchy" to "cis-male white hegemony" for their poor performance. Yet they cannot countenance spending one second on introspection to realize maybe, just *maybe* the reason for their lack of success is not mysterious invisible forces of oppression, but their own lack of intelligence and persistence.
By the way, I took the test. Got 35/100.
Though admittedly, Languish posters (especially Raz, Jaron and Fireblade) are responsible for lowering my score by at least 30 points. :lol:
Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 07:03:30 AM
Thanks Mart, was too lazy to type.
What's worse, the constant emphasis on privilege and lack of personal accountability makes me *less* empathetic to people who face genuine barriers. I regularly encounter people who suck at their job and blame everything from "the patriarchy" to "cis-male white hegemony" for their poor performance. Yet they cannot countenance spending one second on introspection to realize maybe, just *maybe* the reason for their lack of success is not mysterious invisible forces of oppression, but their own lack of intelligence and persistence.
Yeah. I mean I used to think that some people dislike me because I'm gay. Only recently I realised in most cases it's actually probably because I'm an asshole. :D
Quote from: Martinus on June 21, 2016, 07:11:23 AM
Yeah. I mean I used to think that some people dislike me because I'm gay. Only recently I realised in most cases it's actually probably because I'm an asshole. :D
:D
Quote from: Martinus on June 21, 2016, 06:59:16 AM
The privilege and intersectionality bullshit basically abrogates personal responsibility. You suck at life not because you are dumb or lazy, but because you are "unprivileged"; conversely if you achieve success it's not your own doing but because you had an "easy life" so you should feel guilty about it.
It also strips people of their individuality and character, instead seeing them as simple cogs whose actions and life paths are only determined by the identity groups to which they belong.
If you are an asshole. There's nothing wrong with recognizing additional hurdles that other people have to face / wondering if we really need those hurdles in place. At no point is this meant to be - oh well, you can't ever expect to be anything because you have too many oppressive identities.
I also don't think one should feel guilty about being privileged. I clearly am and I don't feel any guilt about that.
My take is that the most significant privilege is being born into a wealthy, well-connected, educated and loving family. I'd rather be born as, say, a gay Asian male into that type of family than as a straight man in a poor uneducated white family.
However, if we're talking about only poorer, less well-educated families, then the kinds of characteristics mentioned in that quiz become somewhat more relevant.
Quote from: Martinus on June 21, 2016, 06:59:16 AM
The privilege and intersectionality bullshit basically abrogates personal responsibility. You suck at life not because you are dumb or lazy, but because you are "unprivileged"; conversely if you achieve success it's not your own doing but because you had an "easy life" so you should feel guilty about it.
It also strips people of their individuality and character, instead seeing them as simple cogs whose actions and life paths are only determined by the identity groups to which they belong.
To add insult to injury, most "metrics" used to measure "privilege" would probably conclude that Berkut had a more privileged upbringing than garbon.
I hate it when marty says things I agree with.
Quote from: Camerus on June 21, 2016, 07:41:10 AM
My take is that the most significant privilege is being born into a wealthy, well-connected, educated and loving family. I'd rather be born as, say, a gay Asian male into that type of family than as a straight man in a poor uneducated white family.
However, if we're talking about only poorer, less well-educated families, then the kinds of characteristics mentioned in that quiz become somewhat more relevant.
At the risk of once again flaunting my clearly unconscience privilege, I think the first and greatest roll of the birth dice that can come up...actually, wait. No that might be the second.
OK, IMO, barring genetic bad luck (significant disease, condition, autism, etc., etc) the first and most significant privilege someone being born today can get is simply having the luck to be born into a western liberal society.
Because if you are lucky enough to have that happen to you, everything else will largely be driven by your own capabilities, rather than being fucked by social status, race, gender, religion, etc., etc. All those things will still matter of course, but can be overcome.
Quote from: Camerus on June 21, 2016, 07:41:10 AM
My take is that the most significant privilege is being born into a wealthy, well-connected, educated and loving family. I'd rather be born as, say, a gay Asian male into that type of family than as a straight man in a poor uneducated white family.
However, if we're talking about only poorer, less well-educated families, then the kinds of characteristics mentioned in that quiz become somewhat more relevant.
Well to give some minor props to this quiz, it does have a handful of questions about family structure, and a number of questions related to growing up in poverty.
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I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
You troll you.
Quote from: Barrister on June 21, 2016, 09:48:25 AM
Well to give some minor props to this quiz, it does have a handful of questions about family structure, and a number of questions related to growing up in poverty.
Pah. The quiz needs to check its privilege. There was no option for living in a brown paper bag in a septic tank.
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White hetero non-religious male upper middle class :yeah:
You should be ashamed of yourself!
Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2016, 11:13:57 AM
White hetero non-religious male upper middle class :yeah:
Wow, just wow. I can't even, like I can't :mad:
It's 2016 and shitlords like you just waltz around. Go die in a fire
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:lol:
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Quote from: Zanza on June 21, 2016, 11:13:57 AM
White hetero non-religious male upper middle class :yeah:
Wow, just wow. I can't even, like I can't :mad:
It's 2016 and shitlords like you just waltz around. Go die in a fire
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If he just got really badly burned in a fire but survived, that would at least reduce his privilege a bit, I suspect. So that would be good.
Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 11:24:43 AMI don't know, but I am pretty sure he should be...
I think you may have misunderstood something.
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Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 11:24:43 AMI don't know, but I am pretty sure he should be...
I think you may have misunderstood something.
Sadly I suspect I have not.
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Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 11:21:03 AM
You should be ashamed of yourself!
Why?
Berk's weak sauce troll.
I thought you have already admitted you were the troll here. :hmm:
I thought he was just saying he's
better at it.
The question is - is his superior trolling abilities a result of his privileges, or through his own efforts at self-improvement? :hmm:
Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 02:04:08 PM
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Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 11:24:43 AMI don't know, but I am pretty sure he should be...
I think you may have misunderstood something.
Sadly I suspect I have not.
Well I can help you out. You are pretty fucking wrong. :console:
Jaron was born on troll third base and then brags like he hit a triple.
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Jaron was born on troll third base and then brags like he hit a triple.
:D
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Jaron was born on troll third base and then brags like he hit a triple.
:lol:
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Quote from: Hamilcar on June 21, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
I reject the premise of this quiz.
The premise that people can be privileged?
The premise that the less privileged the are, the more morally superior you are. It's like the modern left took a look at the Nazi moral hierarchy and inverted it, except that Jews are still at the bottom.
I don't think that's the premise of the quiz at all. I think it is more of, if you have had a good life/easier circumstances perhaps take a little time out to think about/help those who are less fortunate.
How exactly are we supposed to do that? Look at the questions on that quiz--a lot of them revolve around whether or not anyone has ever called you a bad name. If someone has called you a faggot or the n-word at some point, there's nothing I can do to undo that.
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Quote from: Berkut on June 21, 2016, 11:24:43 AMI don't know, but I am pretty sure he should be...
I think you may have misunderstood something.
Sadly I suspect I have not.
Well I can help you out. You are pretty fucking wrong. :console:
Berkut has a difficult time conceiving of a world where he is incorrect.