As we are now just few short hours away from first wild card game, here is thread to discuss the upcoming Ice Bowl at Lambeau, Bungles v Bolts, the Track meet in Philly and Colts v Chiefs.
The ones I'm following are 49ers v. Packers and Eagles v. Saints. I'd like to see the Packers and the Eagles make it through, but I've got serious doubts:
- The Packers' defense has been pretty much non-existent for at least the latter half of this season.
- Foles is good, but for all the screeching going on on the Philly stations, he's way overhyped- I seriously doubt he's up to a QB shootout against Brees.
Let's also not forget the proud Eagles tradition of choking- Philadelphians love to blame Andy Reid, but frankly, the Eagles have historically been staffed by a bunch of prima donnas who are terrible at working together. This is where we're really going to see how Chip Kelly does with the boys in green, and Vick's whining comments from the past week don't fill me with a ton of hope (seriously, they need to ditch him already; he's as bad as McNabb about injuries- pray he doesn't get a hangnail).
I'd love for Aaron Rogers to cut a swathe of destruction through the playoffs. If zone read run-first QBs take over the league it's going to destroy it, in my opinion.
It's not a racist thing. Warren Moon, beautiful pocket passer. Donovan McNab, pocket passer with giant huevos.
That's why I'm rooting for Seattle to boot it.
On a slightly different note, did anyone else hate the back shoulder pass when it first came out? I thought it was the ugliest thing ever put on an NFL field. But then I started to realize what an incredibly hard throw that is to make. 35 yards down field, and you have to lead your reciever, but you have to underthrow the lead by 10 yards. That's some serious physics going on there.
I'm going to root for the Chiefs, Saints, Neither and Rodgers.
Quote from: Liep on January 04, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
I'm going to root for the Chiefs, Saints, Neither and Rodgers.
I feel obligated to oppose the Chiefs because Andy Reid. -_-
Eagles
Chiefs
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2014, 03:33:25 AM
I'd love for Aaron Rogers to cut a swathe of destruction through the playoffs. If zone read run-first QBs take over the league it's going to destroy it, in my opinion.
It's not a racist thing. Warren Moon, beautiful pocket passer. Donovan McNab, pocket passer with giant huevos.
That's why I'm rooting for Seattle to boot it.
Look at the playoff QBs....Manning, Brady, Alex Smith, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers--all basically pocket passers.
Pocket passing isn't going away.
Rooting for the Eagles.
Quote from: alfred russel on January 04, 2014, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2014, 03:33:25 AM
I'd love for Aaron Rogers to cut a swathe of destruction through the playoffs. If zone read run-first QBs take over the league it's going to destroy it, in my opinion.
It's not a racist thing. Warren Moon, beautiful pocket passer. Donovan McNab, pocket passer with giant huevos.
That's why I'm rooting for Seattle to boot it.
Look at the playoff QBs....Manning, Brady, Alex Smith, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers--all basically pocket passers.
Pocket passing isn't going away.
I agree, though I'm not sure why run first quaterbacks would destroy the league even if they were as common as Yi feared. :huh: College football seems to do just fine.
That's a young man's game anyway, they'll have to learn to be a pocket passer eventually as they get slow and banged up.
Quote from: Berkut on January 04, 2014, 11:06:57 AM
Rooting for the Eagles.
On the Chip Kelly train, nice.
This weekend I am rooting for the
Eagles- always liked the Eagles for some reason, and they have a lot of players I like, and Chip Kelly
49ers - most likely to beat the Seachickens
KC - I like Reid and Alex Smith; they both got raw deals with their former teams and I would like to see them win at least one playoff game this year.
Cincy - They are really the only team I can see beating Denver and NE. I don't think they will, but none of the other teams in the AFC have a chance in hell.
It's easier to like Chip now that he is coaching a professional team, rather than when he was coaching a college team, but treating it like it was a professional team.
He is just lucky Mike Stoops was nice enough to teach a QB how to play for him... :P
There will always be running QBs in the NFL. There aren't 32 people capable of being an NFL starting QB around; though I do sometimes wonder how many other border-line HOF QBs there are stocking shelves in a grocery store because they never got a chance.
There are a lot of amazing athletes out there though that can play quarterback decently, and have the ability to run around and make plays. If you know you won't have a QB that can throw the ball very well, why not try one of those guys? If you are going to have a guy back there that can't play the position, why not have one who can at least do something, instead of standing there like a statue and getting hit and throwing interceptions.
Running QBs will never be a major factor in the NFL though. They get hit too many times and thus get hurt too much. The little gimmick/fad things like the "wildcat" and read/option get figured out pretty quick too.
Worst play of the evening: that chick who did the reading of the 'playbook'-line for the new show Crisis.
Well this game turned out to be much more exciting than I imagined before the half.
Neckbeard!
Poor Chiefs.
How is Andy Reid alive? He looks and sounds like his heart should've kicked it years ago.
I am thinking the Colts could be a very dangerous dark horse contender in these here playoffs.
Doubt it. Chiefs played 2nd half with like 3 of best defenders.
:o The rules say you can use 11!
Agree with the point though. Bit of a tainted victory.
Saints in, Eagles out. Field goal at *literally* the last second. Wish I could say I was surprised, but the Saints have the Eagles way, way outclassed in terms of controlling where they take the ball during a possession.
Is anyone really surprised that NFC Least team couldn't win a playoff game this year?
Makes sense. The Saints were the better team. And now I don't need to listen to any nonsense about Chip Kelly.
Quote from: katmai on January 04, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
Is anyone really surprised that NFC Least team couldn't win a playoff game this year?
Actually the Eagles looked better than I expected. They looked like a legit playoff team.
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
Quote from: Liep on January 04, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
I'm going to root for the Chiefs, Saints, Neither and Rodgers.
So I ended up being okay with the Colts winning after that Chief collapse, and the Saints never looked like they were going to lose.
And I'll go with the Bengals because their kit is cheesier.
:lol: Bungles
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
WOO WOO!
Time for the Spicy excuse machine to fire up.
Bubby Brister 2.0
Fuckeye fight!! :w00t:
I've endured a year of Apple picking jokes from the censor of the Bungles, DerCato.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
WOO WOO!
Time for the Spicy excuse machine to fire up.
I heard the Bengals had this one in the bag, but some idiot on the Bengals support staff fucked up the pictures of the Chargers alignments and the coaches made all the wrong adjustments.
Quote from: alfred russel on January 05, 2014, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
WOO WOO!
Time for the Spicy excuse machine to fire up.
I heard the Bengals had this one in the bag, but some idiot on the Bengals support staff fucked up the pictures of the Chargers alignments and the coaches made all the wrong adjustments.
:lmfao:
Fucking Pumpernickel seals the deal. :glare:
Haven't scored yet so not counting my chickens yet.
Rematch with Newton and Panthers!!!
Not a good idea betting against Vernon Davis in the playoffs. Even though his QB is the suck, he's totally awesome.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 05, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Fucking Pumpernickel seals the deal. :glare:
Fucking pumpernickel indeed. :ultra:
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2014, 07:50:13 PM
Not a good idea betting against Vernon Davis in the playoffs. Even though his QB is the suck, he's totally awesome.
He just can't throw the ball well, stay with the read option - or really any running, and hes perfectly suited. :bleeding:
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 05, 2014, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2014, 07:50:13 PM
Not a good idea betting against Vernon Davis in the playoffs. Even though his QB is the suck, he's totally awesome.
He just can't throw the ball well, stay with the read option - or really any running, and hes perfectly suited. :bleeding:
He made some decent passes today. That TD to Davis was money.
Besides, the Packers haven't been right all year.
He has no problems beating the Packers :)
He can throw the ball fine if it's on a line. Any kind of lofted ball he's lucky if he gets the same area code.
Hose, have you seen the Niners throw a single fade all season?
Dude is fast as shit though. That last run that that sealed it he ran right past a backer that was spying him.
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2014, 08:00:13 PM
He has no problems beating the Packers :)
Packers have no run defense.... at all... They almost lost to the bears last week. :lol:
Yip,
Except for the national sunday and monday night games I don't get to see them much, I have to suffer with Seahawks games up here.
Quote from: katmai on January 05, 2014, 08:54:02 PM
Yip,
Except for the national sunday and monday night games I don't get to see them much, I have to suffer with Seahawks games up here.
:hug: I'm so sorry, I am in the same boat down here.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 05, 2014, 08:35:03 PM
Packers have no run defense.... at all... They almost lost to the bears last week. :lol:
Dom Capers seriously needs to go. This entire season has been a disaster for their defense: injury after injury, sluggish reaction after sluggish reaction.
Of course, this game started with the Packers being retarded. I think it was, what, the Packers' third possession before Rodgers even attempted a pocket pass? Running plays over and over again, even though they were hitting brick walls on the Niners.
Either way, de facto father-in-law had a good point at the end of the game: they're so banged up, it would actually have been painful to watch them go on.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
It's almost time for the Andy Dalton Interception Express to pull into the station!
WOO WOO!
Time for the Spicy excuse machine to fire up.
I don't think I ever made excuses for Dalton. Certainly not going to today. He was the reason the Bengals lost, plain & simple. He's a fine QB for most games during the regular season but obviously can't step up in critical games when the season is on the line. He was never going to win a Super Bowl, but just one damned playoff game would be nice.
He hurt himself today as much as he did anyone else. Winning a couple, or at least one, playoff game would have set him up for a juicy payday. He'll still get a contract extension, but probably at about half what he would've gotten otherwise.
Bengals have more depth & talent than they've had in ages. John Clayton says talent-wise they are the best team in the NFL. But with QBs so important these days, they won't break that glass ceiling with Dalton. Shitty situation, and not much that can be done in the short term. No quality veteran talent available that I can see. Gotta draft a QB in the first round and let him compete for the job.
FWIW, I guess it's public knowledge now but Mike Brown had wanted to draft Kaepernick instead of Dalton but was talked out of it by Gruden and other coaches :mellow:
Me=vindicated.
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2014, 10:53:40 PM
John Clayton says talent-wise they are the best team in the NFL.
That might be overstating matters just a bit.
For the last 4 years the team that played in Philly in the Eagles' home opener has won that year's Super Bowl.
This year the Eagles home opener was against ...
San Diego!!
Yuk. Philip Rivers retard face on my TV.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 06, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
Yuk. Philip Rivers retard face on my TV.
He does have one of the more punchable mugs in the NFL.
I don't know which is worse, Rivers retard face or Angry Andy 'Mark Malone' Dalton face after tossing another INT.
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2014, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2014, 10:53:40 PM
John Clayton says talent-wise they are the best team in the NFL.
That might be overstating matters just a bit.
Maybe-- and he was talking to a local radio guy here when he said that. Many other teams have better talent at specific positions, but across all positions (save for QB), the Bengals are pretty near the top. They just don't have the big names, other than AJ Green.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 05, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
Me=vindicated.
Sort of. You thought he sucked all the time, which was only about half right. Going by his overall numbers, he's an average to above-average QB. Obviously he's wildly inconsistent, and I'd say an average QB that screws up less often would still have given the team an 11-5 regular season record, and at least a shot at winning that first playoff game.
The Bengals problems have been solved: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311077/article/jay-gruden-washington-redskins-finalize-deal
No more will they have to endure Jay Gruden's crap offense in the playoffs.
Yeah-- now we can finally get an OC who can call the correct plays for Dalton.
:P
Good headline:
Jay Gruden is the next coach to be helplessly in charge of the Washington Redskins
Redskins fuck up? Take a drink. Bring the entire bottle
How does this happen? Did they contact Jon & he said talk to my bro?
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 09, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
How does this happen? Did they contact Jon & he said talk to my bro?
Jay Gruden has been mentioned as a head coach candidate since after his first year as Bengals offensive coordinator. Since he got hired so quickly, I do wonder if there were already conversations through third parties the past few weeks leading up to this, even though the Redskins were not allowed to officially talk to him until this week.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 09, 2014, 11:23:51 AM
Redskins fuck up? Take a drink. Bring the entire bottle
Today, Ed has discovered why Eagles fans are always drunk at their games.
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 09, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
How does this happen? Did they contact Jon & he said talk to my bro?
Frankly, given how screwed up the Redskins have been under Snyder's ownership, I figure that they think that they hire Jon.
Texans nicked Vrabel to be LB coach.
Good hire.
O'Brien is apparently hiring Romeo Crennel for the DC spot.
Another week of rampant Timmay fanboism. Ugh.
Stupid Tim. He'd be a lot more bearable if he would stop liking things that suck.
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2014, 11:42:30 PM
Stupid Tim. He'd be a lot more bearable if he would stop liking things that suck.
You may not like them, but given that they won a playoff game, by definition the Pats are a thing that does not suck.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 12, 2014, 02:46:40 AM
You may not like them, but given that they won a playoff game, by definition the Pats are a thing that does not suck.
Not enough info to make that assertion. They could still suck, just less than the Colts.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 12, 2014, 02:46:40 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2014, 11:42:30 PM
Stupid Tim. He'd be a lot more bearable if he would stop liking things that suck.
You may not like them, but given that they won a playoff game, by definition the Pats are a thing that does not suck.
Cheatriots always suck.
Quote from: katmai on January 11, 2014, 11:29:51 PM
Another week of rampant Timmay fanboism. Ugh.
Crap.
*chugs entire bottle*
Niners!!
Quote from: katmai on January 12, 2014, 04:06:51 PM
Niners!!
Ugh.
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The first one looks shopped.
:lol: love the first one
What s great play on the pick
Patriots. Broncos. Seahawks. Niners.
I foresee apples getting picked next week.
I didn't even bother watching the games today. Phillip Rivers retard face or that Papa Johns owner? Fuck that shit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2014, 07:59:01 PM
Patriots. Broncos. Seahawks. Niners.
I foresee apples getting picked next week.
4 best teams in the NFL this year. Too bad they all can't lose.
So regardless, we get slingin' white boy vs. runnin' black boy in the Superior Bowl.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2014, 08:15:41 PM
So regardless, we get slingin' white boy vs. runnin' black boy in the Superior Bowl.
Pretty much. Pure Evil versus Just One Calorie Evil in the AFC, and This Year's Flavor of the Month versus Last Year's Flavor of the Month in the NFC. Yahoo.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2014, 08:15:41 PM
So regardless, we get slingin' white boy vs. runnin' black boy in the Superior Bowl.
Always comes down to race with you, disgusting!
Quote from: katmai on January 12, 2014, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2014, 08:15:41 PM
So regardless, we get slingin' white boy vs. runnin' black boy in the Superior Bowl.
Always comes down to race with you, disgusting!
I file Copernicus under "Miscellaneous--American Indian or Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander", just to cover all the bases.
He's half white and half (I assume light-skinned) black. I think I read that somewhere. It's the wave of the future.
And for some quirk of genetics they're all great athletes.
I really want the plane carrying the Patriots to crash into the Broncos facility when everyone is there eating Papa John's.
Hey SBR, suck it.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 07, 2013, 12:28:00 AM
Though the seahawks lost today, I think they're probably the best team in the NFC, and the Broncos are obviously the best team in the AFC.
There are a lot of teams you mention, but I dont think most of them matter in all reality. The only teams that really matter right now if you can project to the playoffs, in my opinion, are Broncos, Seahawks, Saints. KC, Indy, and Pats and Niners are wild cards in my opinion, heck maybe even the bungles on that list.
Jets/bucs, bears? Chargers/eagles, Bills/panthers? I can't read any more of that list.
In case you forgot, apparently this dumbass predicted it pretty well in the first week of October.
Quote from: sbr on October 07, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
Some dumbass trying to project playoff team in the first week of October doesn't really change that.
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At least Harbaugh didn't have to go too far onto the field to be flagged after the play. What a douche canoe.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/great-picture-shows-just-far-jim-harbaugh-field-205907808--nfl.html
I bet the NFL makes some rule changes in the offseason and really clamps down on coaches being on the field during games.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 12, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
Hey SBR, suck it.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 07, 2013, 12:28:00 AM
Though the seahawks lost today, I think they're probably the best team in the NFC, and the Broncos are obviously the best team in the AFC.
There are a lot of teams you mention, but I dont think most of them matter in all reality. The only teams that really matter right now if you can project to the playoffs, in my opinion, are Broncos, Seahawks, Saints. KC, Indy, and Pats and Niners are wild cards in my opinion, heck maybe even the bungles on that list.
Jets/bucs, bears? Chargers/eagles, Bills/panthers? I can't read any more of that list.
In case you forgot, apparently this dumbass predicted it pretty well in the first week of October.
Quote from: sbr on October 07, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
Some dumbass trying to project playoff team in the first week of October doesn't really change that.
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:lol:
I couldn't figure out why you had such a a hard on for me, I had forgotten about this.
Nice job, you still completely missed Neil's point but you picked out a couple of the best teams! :cheers:
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
True, but more crazy things happen int he NFL than any other league.
You "picked" the obvious best teams in week 4 and it worked out; I wouldn't recommend that as a betting strategy in the future though.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
That's retarded.
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Looks like it worked out that way for some random ass reason. :rolleyes:
12 weeks later those initial powerhouses were still chugging along. Weird, that.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 12:54:02 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
That's retarded.
Mad Ravens weren't included.
Quote from: sbr on January 13, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
True, but more crazy things happen int he NFL than any other league.
You "picked" the obvious best teams in week 4 and it worked out; I wouldn't recommend that as a betting strategy in the future though.
Kind of as silly as trying to say which conference was better based on one single week, maybe?
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/12/27/5248214/nfl-non-conference-records-nfc-finishes-slightly-ahead-of-afc-but-are
Neil was wrong, shocker.
Obviously NFC best conference ever, forever, etc. etc.
If Alci picked the Niners and Pats early on in the season, that's pretty good prognosicating. Both looked miserable after their first games.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 13, 2014, 11:36:44 AM
If Alci picked the Niners and Pats early on in the season, that's pretty good prognosicating. Both looked miserable after their first games.
But they were both pre-season Super Bowl contenders though. And didn't Kapernick throw for like 500 yards against GB in the opener?
Anyone with 8 brain cells and who follows the NFL knew those teams Alci named were supposed to be among the best in the league. The problem is so much changes from week to week in the NFL, much less in the 11 weeks from Alci's "prediction" to the end of the season that it isn't very interesting to me to guess what might happen.
I already gave Alci his props for his bold prediction that the best teams in the NFL would be among the best teams in the league.
The Pats were pre-season picks??
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 13, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
The Pats were pre-season picks??
I thought so. I know they were picked to win their division again (no shock there :D) and with Belichick and Brady and an almost guaranteed playoff spot I don't see how they wouldn't be among those teams with a very good shot at the Super Bowl.
EDIT: They have been decimated by injuries since the season started, but their team going into the year was supposed to be pretty good.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 13, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
The Pats were pre-season picks??
You didn't see them going to the Superbowl with Edelman and Dobson leading the way? :huh:
The whole argument began with Neil saying that the AFC was better than the NFC ( :lol: he sure called that one ), and I asserted that there were so many low quality teams on both sides that you can't really gauge the NFC based on the Bucs or the AFC based on the Jags, for instance.
This led me to say certain 'quality' teams were worth gauging when using their NFC/AFC record, which SBR was adamantly against, and apparently all of 8 the teams I thought were worth mentioning as quality teams made it into the playoffs.
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Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 12:54:02 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
That's retarded.
Mad Ravens weren't included.
Last year your method would have produced the unstoppable Cardinals and Bills, so fuck you.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 12:54:02 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 13, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Doesn't change the fact that barring something crazy those were the only legitimate contenders. :contract:
That's retarded.
Mad Ravens weren't included.
Last year your method would have produced the unstoppable Cardinals and Bills, so fuck you.
My method wasn't just wins/losses you Canadian potato, life is hard.
Once and for all, Neil is Albertan.
At any rate, setting aside Alci's conflict with all mankind, this year is a terrible shame. It always seems like there's a plucky surprise in every Championship game. This year, it's just a bunch of massive powerhouses.
I think I'll cheer for Seattle, since they've never won a Superbowl. Mind you, New England has never won a Superbowl without an asterisk, but they're just too reprehensible to cheer for, or even watch.
I disagree. I dislike all 4 teams left, but I prefer to see the best 4 (and Vegas'preseason best 4 btw) left rather than some crappy yet lucky team mucking things up.
Sorry ravens fans.
Any four teams that are left are the best four. That's how it works. I just prefer it when one of the best four is a surprise.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Any four teams that are left are the best four. That's how it works. I just prefer it when one of the best four is a surprise.
Disagree, again. I think the 16 game regular season does a much better job of telling who the better teams are than one random game in January. Anyone who thinks the 2007 Giants were a better team than the 2007 Patriots is a dumbass. The Giants were better that game, and they deserved to win and deserved to be called champions, but they were not the best team that year. I think if those teams played 10 times the Patriots win 6-7 of them, because they were better.
It is the system, and it makes for a very fun playoff when one loss can end your season, but it does not always crown the best team, just the team that won the tournament.
I think that all right thinking people agree that the Pats should be launched into the Sun.
Quote from: sbr on January 13, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Any four teams that are left are the best four. That's how it works. I just prefer it when one of the best four is a surprise.
Disagree, again. I think the 16 game regular season does a much better job of telling who the better teams are than one random game in January. Anyone who thinks the 2007 Giants were a better team than the 2007 Patriots is a dumbass. The Giants were better that game, and they deserved to win and deserved to be called champions, but they were not the best team that year. I think if those teams played 10 times the Patriots win 6-7 of them, because they were better.
It is the system, and it makes for a very fun playoff when one loss can end your season, but it does not always crown the best team, just the team that won the tournament.
Aha! I have you now! You've admitted that the Patriots are good, and thus invalidated your argument via taint.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 02:50:42 PM
Last year your method would have produced the unstoppable Cardinals and Bills, so fuck you.
The Cardinals were unstoppable: on the road in Seattle.
And one day, the Bills will be unstoppable. The transition back to the Joe Ferguson unis speaks to this inevitability.
Neil rooting for the Seahawks?!?
Isn't that like sign of the apocalypse?!?
Quote from: katmai on January 13, 2014, 09:25:20 PM
Neil rooting for the Seahawks?!?
Isn't that like sign of the apocalypse?!?
I cheered for the Seahawks when they made the Superbowl.
Still, I'm going to be pulling for the NFC no matter what, even though the AFC will probably win due to superiority.
No Steve Largent, no love from me.
QuoteJudge nixes preliminary approval of $765M NFL case
PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- A federal judge denied preliminary approval of a $765 million settlement of NFL concussion claims, fearing it may not be enough to cover 20,000 retired players.
U.S. District Judge Anita B. Brody asked for more financial information from the parties, a week after players' lawyers filed a detailed payout plan for her review.
''I am primarily concerned that not all retired NFL football players who ultimately receive a qualifying diagnosis or their (families) ... will be paid,'' Brody wrote in a 12-page opinion filed Tuesday morning.
The proposed settlement, negotiated over several months, is designed to last at least 65 years.
The awards would vary based on an ex-player's age and diagnosis. A younger retiree with Lou Gehrig's disease would get $5 million, those with serious dementia cases would get $3 million and an 80-year-old with early dementia would get $25,000.
Some critics have argued that the NFL, with more than $9 billion in annual revenues, was getting away lightly. But the players' lawyers said they will face huge challenges just to get the case to trial. They would have to prove the injuries were linked to the players' NFL service and should not be handled through league arbitration.
Layn R. Phillips, a former federal judge from California hired by Brody to lead settlement negotiations, had called the deal fair.
The NFL would also pay an additional $112 million to the players' lawyers for their fees and expenses, for a total payout of nearly $900 million.
More than 4,500 former players have filed suit, some accusing the league of fraud for its handling of concussions. They include former Dallas Cowboys running back Tony Dorsett and Super Bowl-winning quarterback Jim McMahon, who suffers from dementia.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/judge-nixes-preliminary-approval-765m-174514871--nfl.html
I am shocked that class action lawyers would rather take the certainty of their pay day over actually working for their contingency fee.
Quote from: sbr on January 13, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Any four teams that are left are the best four. That's how it works. I just prefer it when one of the best four is a surprise.
Disagree, again. I think the 16 game regular season does a much better job of telling who the better teams are than one random game in January. Anyone who thinks the 2007 Giants were a better team than the 2007 Patriots is a dumbass. The Giants were better that game, and they deserved to win and deserved to be called champions, but they were not the best team that year. I think if those teams played 10 times the Patriots win 6-7 of them, because they were better.
It is the system, and it makes for a very fun playoff when one loss can end your season, but it does not always crown the best team, just the team that won the tournament.
Performance in the regular season is largely a function of what teams can keep their starters healthy for the most games. Performance in the playoffs is largely a function of who are the best teams at the end of the year. A game series in football is silly. Who cares if the Pats built a team that could win a 10 game series. Did they build a team that could win the big game - no.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 13, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
And one day, the Bills will be unstoppable. The transition back to the Joe Ferguson unis speaks to this inevitability.
I was a Bills fan during that era. A second cousin of mine played tight end 1980-84.
Vikings took Zimmer. Hopefully we get Da Schwartz to replace him.
I'm a Patriots fan but really don't care for another Brady-Manning match-up. I was cheering for San Diego to win, be something different. But at least the Pats are there for the next playoff game. I know that makes you all very happy! :P I never expected them to do so well this year, and I had serious doubts about them getting into the Super Bowl. The strong running game is a surprise even though they had a good running game last year, I didn't expect them to be such a running offense.
I'd like the Broncos to win this weekend but if they don't, what the hell-- I'd root for that other AFC team.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2014, 01:27:04 PM
I'd like the Broncos to win this weekend but if they don't, what the hell-- I'd root for that other AFC team.
Never. Better the Steelers than the Patriots.
Yeah, I'd probably regret it after they won it.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2014, 01:06:24 PM
Vikings took Zimmer. Hopefully we get Da Schwartz to replace him.
And we promoted from within-- Paul Guenther, LB coach, will be the new DC. I like Paulie G-- he's a generous guy and likes beer. And he's done well with the linebackers lately. But Schwartz would've brought some DC experience.
Lions got a new head coach :mellow:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd9Ots1CUAMrJqU.jpg)
Are you sure the Lions can handle a fiery leader like that?
I'm glad that being OC for the worst offense in Ravens history didn't hurt him. I don't really blame Caldwell for this year's ridiculous display.
Like Kronn, I'm really surprised we got this far, but with how well the running game is going and Denver defensive back Chris Harris out with an ACL injury I'm a bit more confident that the Pats can win this one.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2014, 05:47:14 PM
I'm glad that being OC for the worst offense in Ravens history didn't hurt him. I don't really blame Caldwell for this year's ridiculous display.
It will be interesting to see how he's going to do without Peyton Manning on the field for him. Will he be: The Black Shanahan?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 15, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
Like Kronn, I'm really surprised we got this far, but with how well the running game is going and Denver defensive back Chris Harris out with an ACL injury I'm a bit more confident that the Pats can win this one.
Go eat a shit.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 15, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
Like Kronn, I'm really surprised we got this far, but with how well the running game is going and Denver defensive back Chris Harris out with an ACL injury I'm a bit more confident that the Pats can win this one.
If Denver sends out Quentin Jammer to play CB again you can be doubly confident. Man talk about being too old for this shit. He and Phil Dawson are the last John Mackovic UT players in the league.
I'd like to see a Denver-Seattle Superbowl...it'd be like a good 'ol AFC West rivalry game.
I can't stand 3 of the teams left, and would hate Denver if it weren't for Manning so I guess I want the Broncos to beat someone in the Super Bowl.
Hopefully douche bag Seattle fans get their hearts broken at home this week, while Manning performs a miracle and doesn't fuck up a playoff game.
Then in the Super Bowl Denver avenges Super Bowl XXIV and slap the shit out of the Niners, and Harbaugh completely melts down and beats up the referee getting him expelled from the NFL for life.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpersephonemagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F02%2Fjack-nicholson-flip-off.gif&hash=b4719d62b184a3a7c12b2ba0fd2064dce267dfc8)
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 07:28:52 PM
Hopefully douche bag Seattle fans get their hearts broken at home this week, while Manning performs a miracle and doesn't fuck up a playoff game.
Seattle fans can't really be classified as douchebags quite just yet. They haven't won anything, and lost their only Super Bowl appearance to NFL Properties.
Annoying, yes. Obnoxious, yes. But you have to win consistently to be
tre' douche'.
Nonsense, Cowboys fans have been douche for long time now.
They are an NFL institution. Seattle is not.
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
I don't find Seattle fans to be douchey. Pete Carroll is a dick, but I don't have a problem with the team or their fans.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
:face:
I don't understand Seattle hate.
They are like the Buccaneers, a fad.
Altho, I am firmly on their bandwagon. That and Manning's.
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
Yeah...not the same thing.
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
I don't understand Seattle hate.
They are like the Buccaneers, a fad.
Altho, I am firmly on their bandwagon. That and Manning's.
I don't think they're going to be a fad, not with a stadium like that.
That said, I don't hate them for it.
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
Seattle never colluded with the league to keep us from getting a team. Seattle is a benevolent franchise.
Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2014, 10:52:35 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
Yeah...not the same thing.
Save it, Jack Kent Cock.
Ryan Tannehill's wife returns rental car, forgets AR-15 rifle in the back seat (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/dolphins-qb-wife-forgets-ar-15-rifle-rental-car-article-1.1581154)
As Dave Barry put it; there goes the last hope for the Dolphin's offense. :(
It's like, "Hey-- free rifle!"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
Seattle never colluded with the league to keep us from getting a team. Seattle is a benevolent franchise.
Yeah I am sure the Seahawks would be delighted to help Oregon get a NFL franchise. They just want what is best for the peoples.
Also, I'd let her shoot my rifle.
I'm too late to do jokes. :(
Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2014, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 15, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
And stop hating on your regional coverage.
How was watching the Redskins for all of those Colt-less years?
Seattle never colluded with the league to keep us from getting a team. Seattle is a benevolent franchise.
Yeah I am sure the Seahawks would be delighted to help Oregon get a NFL franchise. They just want what is best for the peoples.
We got NFL, they got NBA. That's fair for now.
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 16, 2014, 06:55:14 PM
We got NFL, they got NBA. That's fair for now.
They just made the mistake of trusting an Okie. They are all thieves.
Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 16, 2014, 06:55:14 PM
We got NFL, they got NBA. That's fair for now.
They just made the mistake of trusting an Okie. They are all thieves.
That's Racist! :o
*takes a drink*
Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2014, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2014, 11:26:21 PM
Seattle never colluded with the league to keep us from getting a team. Seattle is a benevolent franchise.
Yeah I am sure the Seahawks would be delighted to help Oregon get a NFL franchise. They just want what is best for the peoples.
I really don't get all the Seattle Seahate. They're the Switzerland of the NFL.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 16, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
I really don't get all the Seattle Seahate. They're the Switzerland of the NFL.
The very rare times the Redsksins get into the playoffs the Seahawks beat them. My rage knows no limits.
Ok seriously though I would imagine alot of people will come to hate the Seahawks if they continue their current run with their whole 12th man thing. I personally have no hate left to give to other NFL teams with the infinite amount of loathing I have for the Dallas Cowboys.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2014, 09:06:30 PM
*takes a drink*
Because that was a serious comment. :rolleyes:
You drinking pronouncements would have more impact if you didn't make one for every comment I made.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2014, 09:06:30 PM
*takes a drink*
Because that was a serious comment. :rolleyes:
You drinking pronouncements would have more impact if you didn't make one for every comment I made.
*takes a drink*
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 16, 2014, 09:06:30 PM
*takes a drink*
Because that was a serious comment. :rolleyes:
You drinking pronouncements would have more impact if you didn't make one for every comment I made.
Tim being his usual Assburger self - 1 drink
I need to formalize these rules. The tim section will get you shitfaced.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 17, 2014, 10:50:23 AM
I need to formalize these rules. The tim section will get you shitfaced.
I'm trying to prove my sig wrong!
We can be new liver buddies.
Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2014, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 16, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
I really don't get all the Seattle Seahate. They're the Switzerland of the NFL.
Ok seriously though I would imagine alot of people will come to hate the Seahawks if they continue their current run with their whole 12th man thing. I personally have no hate left to give to other NFL teams with the infinite amount of loathing I have for the Dallas Cowboys.
:huh:
I suppose people might hate it that they dont have that kind of atmosphere at their own games. I can also see why Redskins fans would be particularly upset that they will likely never get it back - under the current ownership anyway.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 17, 2014, 12:11:41 PM
:huh:
I suppose people might hate it that they dont have that kind of atmosphere at their own games. I can also see why Redskins fans would be particularly upset that they will likely never get it back - under the current ownership anyway.
Um I don't hate the Seahawks at all. The Redskins have never really lost it...which is annoying on some level since the owner and the team do not deserve it. Supporting crap is how you become the Chicago Cubs.
I certainly have nothing against loud and obnoxious fans but a lot people find obnoxious people obnoxious. The Steelers have always had a loud and passionate fan base with a crazy atmosphere and look how much people hate them.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 17, 2014, 12:11:41 PM
I suppose people might hate it that they dont have that kind of atmosphere at their own games.
Seattle designed their stadium to capture noise. It is one thing to have a rowdy crowd making it hard for the opposition to hear, it is another to have architects design a stadium to double or so the noise a crowd produces vs. normal stadiums.
My predictions: New England over Denver, and Seattle over San Fransisco. Seattle gets hosed in the Big Game once again against New England by NFL Properties.
Nguyenland doesn't have the guns to keep up with Denver. I predict a monster game from Von Miller.
These are the playoffs, and it's Brady and Manning. Brady usually wins these.
Tom Brady holds decided stats edge over Peyton Manning (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/playoffs/2014/01/15/tom-brady-peyton-manning-head-to-head-recaps/4492167/)
As much as NFL Properties loves Manning, it loves Brady and The Evil One(tm) more. The League Office will make sure things fall into place the way they want them to.
Care to make it interesting?
Asians and their betting.
:rolleyes:
Takes backs. You're still blacklisted.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Nguyenland doesn't have the guns to keep up with Denver. I predict a monster game from Von Miller.
Von Miller tore his ACL a few weeks ago.
Fuck.
Rehab it you bitch!
Here I thought Yip was making a funny, but noooooo!
Quit stalking me.
I wonder if watching Peyton Manning secure his place as the best QB of his era is worth having Bronco fans be douchebags for the next decade or so.
Broncos fans are always douchebags.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
Quit stalking me.
only if you get the brain to stop stalking me. :)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Nguyenland doesn't have the guns to keep up with Denver. I predict a monster game from Von Miller.
Nguyenland :unsure:
That would be a certified miracle since he's on IR with an ACL tear.