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[Sheilbh]

Ah. I think we've got different understandings of narcissism then

As an aside I've always thought that was Obama's great oratorical trick. He weaves his own personal story with national history. In the first campaign I thought it was very useful for making him seem far less alien and foreign than a black guy called Obama should. But he always has a bit, in the speeches, about how his personal story isn't necessarily exceptional, but that it's part of and reflects America.

It's sort of like showing instead of telling. We know what Parks did, we can describe it and the effects it had, that picture shows it in total - a black President sitting anywhere on a bus. Similarly the effect of Armstrong is that we all look at the moon differently and the picture's sounds like it's going for that rather than just a picture of Armstrong (we don't look at him differently because we've only known him as a hero).

I don't see that as not honouring the person so much as saying the honour's from the effect that person had.

Same way as he used his story in the campaign to talk about, say, race in a way that I think was more useful than an academic approach. The personal story makes it more accessible and engaging.

[CountDeMoney]

derspiess calls that "being uppity".

[derspiess]

derspiess calls that "being uppity".

No.  That's what you call Justice Thomas.

[derspiess]

Ah. I think we've got different understandings of narcissism then

I suppose. 

[Ed Anger]

I wish you two would kiss and make up.

[CountDeMoney]

derspiess calls that "being uppity".

No.  That's what you call Justice Thomas.

No, "unqualified" /= "uppity".

[Razgovory]

Derspeiss mentioned that hearing Obama talk about himself makes him want to vomit.  I think the key is hearing or seeing Obama makes Derspeiss ill.  He's just been conditioned that way.  It's a Pavlovian response.

[derspiess]

Derspeiss mentioned that hearing Obama talk about himself makes him want to vomit.  I think the key is hearing or seeing Obama makes Derspeiss ill.  He's just been conditioned that way.  It's a Pavlovian response.

Hearing?  Yeah, kinda.  His speaking style gets under my skin.  Seeing?  Not sure what's there for me to object to.

[Razgovory]

I agree there shouldn't be much for you to object to, yet you do.

[derspiess]

I agree there shouldn't be much for you to object to, yet you do.

Go on, say it.

[garbon]

Ah. I think we've got different understandings of narcissism then

Actually I'd agree with der that Obama is narcissistic. I do get the vibe from him that he thinks he's better (particularly smarter) than the rest of us.

[Razgovory]

I agree there shouldn't be much for you to object to, yet you do.

Go on, say it.

I thought I already did.

[Razgovory]

Ah. I think we've got different understandings of narcissism then

Actually I'd agree with der that Obama is narcissistic. I do get the vibe from him that he thinks his better (particularly smarter) than the rest of us.

Well, in your case he would be right.

[merithyn]

Ah. I think we've got different understandings of narcissism then

Actually I'd agree with der that Obama is narcissistic. I do get the vibe from him that he thinks his better (particularly smarter) than the rest of us.

Yeah. I kind of get the whole condescending vibe from him, like he's always talking down to Americans. I don't really care to watch his speeches because of it.

[Razgovory]

I don't get that feeling.  Mostly I find his speeches dull, like he's a teacher or something.