2016 elections - because it's never too early

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dps

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 30, 2016, 08:42:42 PM
You're already on the SPIC list for paying cash to your illegal landscaper crews, Colonel.

Is he on an SPCA list, too?

Syt

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-650-million-people-immigration

QuoteTrump says Clinton would let 650 million people into US in a week

Republican presidential nominee makes outlandish immigration claim at a rally in New Mexico while also stoking fears of voting fraud in Colorado

Donald Trump falsely claimed at a rally on Sunday that Hillary Clinton wants to let "650 million people pour in" to the US and "triple the size of our country in one week".

Speaking in an airplane hangar in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Trump again pushed his hardline immigration stance and warned of the dangers posed by what he described as Clinton's "open borders" policy.

Trump took his alarmist rhetoric to a new height when boasting about his endorsement from the union which represents ICE and border patrol officers. He told them: "You know, it would be much easier working for Obama or working for crooked Hillary because frankly when you're working for Hillary, she wants to let people just pour in."

Trump continued: "You could have 650 million people pour in and we do nothing about it. Think of it, that's what could happen. You triple the size of our country in one week. Once you lose control of your borders you have no country."

The Republican nominee's campaign has long used strident rhetoric about immigration. He alleged in his June 2015 campaign announcement that the Mexican government was deliberately sending rapists across the border and has repeatedly compared Syrian refugees to "the Trojan horse".

Trump though has never suggested that Clinton, whom he has long derided as "a globalist", supported tripling the size of the US through a mass migration unprecedented in world history.

Although Clinton is long on the record in favor of comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, there is no evidence she favors increasing the US population by 650 million, a total roughly equal to the combined population of Canada, Mexico and the European Union.

Trump's comments on immigration came hours after he further stoked fears of election fraud in a rally in Colorado.

There, in a state where all voters can vote by mail, he suggested the electoral process was insecure and that his supporters should show up in person at polling places on election day and request a new ballot.

The Republican nominee has long suggested without basis that, as part of "a rigged system", there is major in-person voter fraud in the US. A recent study found only 31 cases of in-person voter fraud out of a billion ballots cast between 2000-2014.
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Liep

US has too long been lacking behind great powers like India and China with regards to population numbers, it's time to be #1! #MAGA
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DGuller

The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.  Clinton victory would just make us linger on for four more year in destructive divisiveness, as the despicable deplorables will have no opportunity to see their "ideas" discredited.  Of course, in practice, hitting rock bottom is usually not what it's cracked up to be, and is often a permanently damaging event.

Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.

If hitting rock bottom made politics healthier there would be lots of politically healthy countries in Latin America.

I find little evidence to back up this theory.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.

If hitting rock bottom made politics healthier there would be lots of politically healthy countries in Latin America.

I find little evidence to back up this theory.
I'm grasping at straws here.  Really brittle straws.  Of course, in reality, history is littered with countries taking a disastrous turn politically, and very often these countries have their trajectory permanently altered for the worse.

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.

If hitting rock bottom made politics healthier there would be lots of politically healthy countries in Latin America.

I find little evidence to back up this theory.
I'm grasping at straws here.  Really brittle straws.  Of course, in reality, history is littered with countries taking a disastrous turn politically, and very often these countries have their trajectory permanently altered for the worse.

France.
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derspiess

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Zoupa

Quote from: garbon on October 31, 2016, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.

If hitting rock bottom made politics healthier there would be lots of politically healthy countries in Latin America.

I find little evidence to back up this theory.
I'm grasping at straws here.  Really brittle straws.  Of course, in reality, history is littered with countries taking a disastrous turn politically, and very often these countries have their trajectory permanently altered for the worse.

France.

:lol:

garbon

Quote from: Zoupa on October 31, 2016, 11:47:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 31, 2016, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 31, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
The only consolation thought I have about the idea of Trump becoming a president is that we need to hit rock bottom as a country before our politics become healthier.

If hitting rock bottom made politics healthier there would be lots of politically healthy countries in Latin America.

I find little evidence to back up this theory.
I'm grasping at straws here.  Really brittle straws.  Of course, in reality, history is littered with countries taking a disastrous turn politically, and very often these countries have their trajectory permanently altered for the worse.

France.

:lol:

:hug:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Martinus on October 31, 2016, 01:17:33 AM
Chicago Tribune saying Hillary should step down:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-emails-kass-1030-20161028-column.html

Put aside the hysterical exaggerations about the emails.  The premise is horribly mistaken.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats elect - there will be total obstruction.  Obama was scrupulously clean and honest, always kept a measured tone, and the GOP response was to block and obstruct everything, to the point where we have been short one Supreme Court justice for months, even though everyone sane agrees that his appointment was perfectly reasonable.

It started with Gingrich, got worse with the Tea Party, and has reached its nadir with the Trumpian thought police.  The GOP is no longer a proper political party, it's a political protection scheme.  They can't win anymore based on policy or reasoned argument, and certainly not track record.  What they are left with is the threat to pull down the system unless they get their way.  And when you scrape off the Clinton derangement from the Trib columnist's piece, that's what he is saying - we can't elect HRC because the crazies that took over the GOP will blow us all up if we do.
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CountDeMoney

I wonder how the investigators involved with the Weiner sexting case--you know, the ones actually involved with trying to pursue a criminal investigation--feel about all this nonsense from their boss putting their case at risk.