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Started by Habbaku, May 09, 2012, 12:14:59 PM

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garbon

#1590
August 16, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
Alright, I'm thinking Berk won't declare any wars as he now has 4 (:D) - ulmont?
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ulmont

#1591
August 16, 2012, 09:59:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
Alright, I'm thinking Berk won't declare any wars as he now has 4 (:D) - ulmont?

Nah, I'm good.

garbon

#1592
August 16, 2012, 10:00:19 AM
I'm thinking Habbs is probably good too. Anything from you Drak?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Drakken

#1593
August 16, 2012, 10:04:12 AM
No war declaration.

Tamas

#1594
August 16, 2012, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Berkut on August 16, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
Just because you like to really make it clear how little you can be trusted?

Duly noted.

:huh: we had: no deal whatsoever.

Habbaku

#1595
August 16, 2012, 10:34:26 AM
Tamas the Trustworthy is up to SD.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Tamas

#1596
August 16, 2012, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 16, 2012, 10:34:26 AM
Tamas the Trustworthy is up to SD.

Yeah, just take up Berkut's line without blinking. :P

Besides, you are one to talk Mr. I Make Peace With HRE After Certain Things I Said To A Certain Somebody

My SD is everyone and their dog from Istanbul to Coron

garbon

#1597
August 16, 2012, 11:01:10 AM
This is about where it gets useful to create files again. :whistle:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Habbaku

#1598
August 16, 2012, 11:55:42 AM
It's cute that Tamas thinks I can harm the HRE in any way.  About as weird as Berkut thinking I should invade England.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

#1599
August 16, 2012, 11:56:18 AM
Oh I definitely think you should have thought about invading England this turn.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Berkut

#1600
August 16, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
In general, England in TVQ seems very disconnected from the game, except in rather indirect manners.

They don't have Calais, so you don't see English armies on the continent much. Invading England seems nearly impossible, unless things go just right for Spain. The "normal" France/England animosity is not really there since they don't really even have anything to fight over.

So England pirates, does a little bit of religious stuff, and...what else? Collects VQ VPs each turn, I guess.

What can France do to harm England? What can England do to harm France? Just card play, so far as I can tell.
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Tamas

#1601
August 16, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 16, 2012, 12:14:07 PM
In general, England in TVQ seems very disconnected from the game, except in rather indirect manners.

They don't have Calais, so you don't see English armies on the continent much. Invading England seems nearly impossible, unless things go just right for Spain. The "normal" France/England animosity is not really there since they don't really even have anything to fight over.

So England pirates, does a little bit of religious stuff, and...what else? Collects VQ VPs each turn, I guess.

What can France do to harm England? What can England do to harm France? Just card play, so far as I can tell.

yeah I was wondering about that.

Which should, I guess, a bit paradoxically, force more effort in the rivalry between England and it's natural rivals, since their struggle leans into very indirect territory, apart from the Spanish Main as a battleground.

Habbaku

#1602
August 16, 2012, 12:30:01 PM Last Edit: August 16, 2012, 12:32:49 PM by Habbaku
I would definitely disagree that England cannot harm France.  The reverse is true barring extraordinary circumstances (Reiters and Foreign Volunteers in Scotland early in the game?), but England is definitely in a position in the mid-game to invade France and potentially grab Calais or Rouen--especially if the Protestants have run amok.

England's points of contention with the rest of the board are ensuring Scotland stays theirs (buying influence), worrying about Catholicism spreading in England, keeping Ireland (CSR or Ireland Rebels can take it away) and making sure the Protestants don't get smashed too poorly since they rely on Protestant spaces for some of their VPs.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

#1603
August 16, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
I'd agree that England seems almost like an unnecessary power in VQ in that it is in its own sandbox (and should largely stay there as an easy way to gain VPs). I guess fairly similar to real life but not particularly exciting.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

#1604
August 16, 2012, 12:32:04 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 16, 2012, 12:30:01 PM
England's points of contention with the rest of the board are ensuring Scotland stays their's (buying influence), worrying about Catholicism spreading in England, keeping Ireland (CSR or Ireland Rebels can take it away) and making sure the Protestants don't get smashed too poorly since they rely on Protestant spaces for some of their VPs.

But most of that is really just internal. After all Spain, France and Protestants have to worry about religion spread as well as each other and HRE/Ottos as potential invaders.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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