Languish's church attendence

[Valmy]

Actually I think you have a point. We do use fairytales to teach values and lessons to children.

The real problem is when they stick to them in adulthood as well. And of course that they are never told Cinderella as gospel.

When they stick to values and lessons?  Why is that a problem?

[Scipio]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

[Tamas]

Actually I think you have a point. We do use fairytales to teach values and lessons to children.

The real problem is when they stick to them in adulthood as well. And of course that they are never told Cinderella as gospel.

When they stick to values and lessons?  Why is that a problem?

As I said, we do teach a lot of stuff to kids via stories so whatever on that department. But you gotta' admit, you telling the story of Snowhite to your kid is not the same ballpark as when the priest tries to talk to them about what happened with Jesus and why.

It is, well, taken more seriously.

But this is just my personal problem with the huge self-delusion we call "religion".
Perhaps it is indeed needed for social stability, and we are better off reducing most of the population to worker ants via these superstitions, IDK.

[Tamas]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

I would put it that Slavs didn't do much for secular humanism

[CountDeMoney]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

Yup, the Moldovan Jew I work with says the same thing;  and if you know how many Moldovan Jews are left in the world, one can understand why.

[CountDeMoney]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

I would put it that Slavs didn't do much for secular humanism

SUBHUMAN FIGHT

[Tamas]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

I would put it that Slavs didn't do much for secular humanism

SUBHUMAN FIGHT

aren't you, like, of Irish descent? The gypsies of western europe?

[Valmy]

But this is just my personal problem with the huge self-delusion we call "religion".
Perhaps it is indeed needed for social stability, and we are better off reducing most of the population to worker ants via these superstitions, IDK.

Practically everything in human life, the important stuff anyway, is entirely made up and exists only in the human mind.  So I picked a religion that I liked and agreed with its values, because what belief system I adopt is completely and entirely meaningless and arbitrary.  I do not see anything particularly self-delusional about that.

And most of the population will pick superstitions to follow, look at the sorts your countrymen embrace.

[Viking]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

Apart from the US, UK, Canada and Australia where have slavs encountered Secular Humanism?

[Valmy]

Apart from the US, UK, Canada and Australia where have slavs encountered Secular Humanism?

I doubt he has seen much Secular Humanism in Mississippi.

[Barrister]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

Apart from the US, UK, Canada and Australia where have slavs encountered Secular Humanism?

[Viking]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

Apart from the US, UK, Canada and Australia where have slavs encountered Secular Humanism?

I am merely making the assertion that Secular Humanism is a phenomenon not common in slavic countries before 1989. I also make the assertion that the US is country founded on secular principles putting people before god.

[derspiess]

So, when are you going to give the kids the opt-out option? I'm planning on sitting them down at age 12 and asking them what they think and if they want to continue the church going. Or if they express doubts earlier.

Atheist douchebag Dawkins type thinking? BEATINGS.

Have not thought that far ahead.  I guess I'll probably make them go through high school, then shame them into going for Christmas, Easter, etc. after that. 

[Tamas]

Whatevs.  Y'all can sneer all you want.  Secular humanism hasn't done dick for the Slavs worldwide, so you'll pardon me if I cling bitterly to my religion and guns in the United States, where I live freely thanks in large part to flight from religious persecution.

Apart from the US, UK, Canada and Australia where have slavs encountered Secular Humanism?

That's an excellent question, actually. Scipio made it sound like Slavs were royally screwed over secular humanism en masse, whereas they only encountered (outside of those countries) with, hmmmm, communist secularism, which was about fucking you up if you kept going to churches. Not the same thing.

[Viking]

That's an excellent question, actually. Scipio made it sound like Slavs were royally screwed over secular humanism en masse, whereas they only encountered (outside of those countries) with, hmmmm, communist secularism, which was about fucking you up if you kept going to churches. Not the same thing.

communist secularism? Did Stalin run a dictatorship on the principle of separation of Church and State? Not communist secularism; communist totalitarianism.