Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Capetan Mihali

#780
April 10, 2012, 08:46:11 PM
So, anybody been following the Tulsa thing where another pseudo-white (Native American) guy, plus a bona fide white guy, went around shooting random black people on the street, after the first guy's father pursued a black guy who had tried to break into his car, attacked him, got shot and killed by the black guy, and then the black guy never faced charges because of Okla.'s "Stand Your Ground" type law?....
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Razgovory

#781
April 10, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
Yeah, I heard about that.
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sbr

#782
April 10, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 10, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
Yeah, I heard about that.

I heard some white Okies were shooting up blacks but I hadn't heard the motive before now.

DontSayBanana

#783
April 10, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 10, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
I heard some white Okies were shooting up blacks but I hadn't heard the motive before now.

Same.  Perfect example of why a SYG law is a bad idea, though.
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Eddie Teach

#784
April 10, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Doubtful.  The kind of skiing that I was talking about can't take place in a house.

Even if you have a really long staircase?
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Capetan Mihali

#785
April 10, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Doubtful.  The kind of skiing that I was talking about can't take place in a house.

Do you have skiing supplies and/or know where Tina is at?
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Barrister

#786
April 10, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 10, 2012, 06:19:17 PM
Zimmman's lawyers have quit, or whatever it is that lawyers call quitting.  He hasn't been returning their calls, he's been talking to the press, and he tried to talk to the prosecutor were the things they mentioned.

The leading case in Canada on lawyers ceasing to act for their clients was a SCC decision that started out in Yukon.   :cool:
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CountDeMoney

#787
April 11, 2012, 01:22:05 PM
Apparently, he's going to be charged later today.

My guess: loitering.

DGuller

#788
April 11, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2012, 01:22:05 PM
Apparently, he's going to be charged later today.

My guess: loitering.
Who?  Zimmerman or Martin?

Viking

#789
April 11, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Valmy

#790
April 11, 2012, 03:25:17 PM Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 03:35:09 PM by Valmy
Quote from: Viking on April 11, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
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In that case I am also descended from the Prophet Mohammed along with virtuallly everybody from Europe.

Obey me Shi'ites!  I am your rightful leader!

But the claim that the line traces through Edward IV is weird.  What is so Spanish about Edward IV? I figured they would have traced it through Edward I since his wife was Castillian.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

mongers

#791
April 11, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 06, 2012, 12:58:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 05, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
CNN now seems to doubt Zimmerman used a racial slur, after filtering out some background noise from the tape.
Some people did and some people didn't, personally I never heard him say 'coon'.  But whether he's a bit racist or not seems a side issue, unless it was the only route for a decent investigation (I think the DoJ can step in then?).

I think you can still be a racist without having to use a specific word.

Just because he may have said punk, doesn't exonerate him.
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Sheilbh

#792
April 11, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2012, 03:25:17 PM
But the claim that the line traces through Edward IV is weird.  What is so Spanish about Edward IV? I figured they would have traced it through Edward I since his wife was Castillian.
Maybe the Yorkist line had links to Castille or something? :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

#793
April 11, 2012, 03:48:39 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2012, 03:25:17 PM
But the claim that the line traces through Edward IV is weird.  What is so Spanish about Edward IV? I figured they would have traced it through Edward I since his wife was Castillian.
Maybe the Yorkist line had links to Castille or something? :mellow:

His great-grandmother:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_Castile,_Duchess_of_York
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