Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Sheilbh

#765
April 07, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 06, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
You can only get the hate crime bonus if you're convicted of a vanilla crime first, right?  Seems like hate crime is the least of Zimmereman's worries.
But can't the Feds step in if they think there's a hate crime angle that isn't being properly investigated locally?
Let's bomb Russia!

CountDeMoney

#766
April 07, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 07, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
Yup. He's now serving 40 years.

America.  :)

The guy was a sociopath, man.

CountDeMoney

#767
April 07, 2012, 06:22:57 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 06, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
You can only get the hate crime bonus if you're convicted of a vanilla crime first, right?  Seems like hate crime is the least of Zimmereman's worries.
But can't the Feds step in if they think there's a hate crime angle that isn't being properly investigated locally?

They'll take it from a civil rights angle.

Zoupa

#768
April 07, 2012, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 07, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
Yup. He's now serving 40 years.

America.  :)

The guy was a sociopath, man.

From the article:

QuoteHoward Morgan's van was crushed and destroyed without notice or cause before any forensic investigation could be done.

...

Howard Morgan was never tested for gun residue to confirm if he even fired a weapon on the morning in question.

The State never produced the actual bullet proof vest worn by one of the officers who claimed to have allegedly taken a shot directly into the vest on the morning in question. The State only produced a replica.

GEEZ I WONDER WUT HAPPEND???

11B4V

#769
April 07, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Someone got some shitty draaws on that one. :lol:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

#770
April 09, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
No grand jury.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

#771
April 09, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2012, 06:22:57 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 06, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
You can only get the hate crime bonus if you're convicted of a vanilla crime first, right?  Seems like hate crime is the least of Zimmereman's worries.
But can't the Feds step in if they think there's a hate crime angle that isn't being properly investigated locally?

They'll take it from a civil rights angle.

I guess that's what I was thinking about when I said "hate crime".
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#772
April 09, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
Ah.  Well there is a difference.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#773
April 09, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
No Grand Jury.  Southern Justice rides again!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

#774
April 09, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
No Grand Jury.  Southern Justice rides again!

Thanks for copying my post. :)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#775
April 09, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
No Grand Jury.  Southern Justice rides again!

Thanks for copying my post. :)

Sorry, I was thinking about all the skiing I was planning to do and didn't notice you.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

#776
April 09, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
No Grand Jury.  Southern Justice rides again!

Thanks for copying my post. :)

Sorry, I was thinking about all the skiing I was planning to do and didn't notice you.

Doubtful.  The kind of skiing that I was talking about can't take place in a house.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

#777
April 10, 2012, 06:19:17 PM
Zimmman's lawyers have quit, or whatever it is that lawyers call quitting.  He hasn't been returning their calls, he's been talking to the press, and he tried to talk to the prosecutor were the things they mentioned.

Razgovory

#778
April 10, 2012, 07:44:48 PM
I think Ide said that lawyers can fire their clients.  In Scips case he just sics his dogs on them.  Maybe in Florida they can shoot the client in self defense.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

#779
April 10, 2012, 07:46:46 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 10, 2012, 07:44:48 PM
In Scips case he just sics his dogs on them.

He rolls back the hour hand on the "Be Back By" sign first.
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