American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

[Malthus]

What possible difference would that make? Are they planning on prosecuting the three year old? 

Please don't tell me you're that fucking dense.

Well, it was a rhetorical question - but het, it's America. Nothing in their laws concerning gun use would surprise me. 

The (serious) issue though is: why does the article make a point about the cops investigating which toddler pulled the trigger? What turns on knowing that particular fact?

If you're going to prosecute, you have to lay out the facts of the case.  If you say that the 3 year old shot his brother when in fact the younger boy shot himself, or vice-versa, you risk losing the case on a technicality.

'The gun was left in the reach of two toddlers. Without any other person intervening, the gun discharged, killing one. Therefore, the person or persons who had legal responsibility for securing the gun in a safe manner are charged with the following offence ... '.

[dps]

What possible difference would that make? Are they planning on prosecuting the three year old? 

Please don't tell me you're that fucking dense.

Well, it was a rhetorical question - but het, it's America. Nothing in their laws concerning gun use would surprise me. 

The (serious) issue though is: why does the article make a point about the cops investigating which toddler pulled the trigger? What turns on knowing that particular fact?

If you're going to prosecute, you have to lay out the facts of the case.  If you say that the 3 year old shot his brother when in fact the younger boy shot himself, or vice-versa, you risk losing the case on a technicality.

'The gun was left in the reach of two toddlers. Without any other person intervening, the gun discharged, killing one. Therefore, the person or persons who had legal responsibility for securing the gun in a safe manner are charged with the following offence ... '.

Part of establishing that no one else intervened is proving exactly what happened, including who pulled the trigger.  If you can't prove that, you can't prove the case.  Well, maybe not can't prove it, but it makes it more difficult.  You've already got a situation where the prosecution has to worry that some people on the jury might think something along the lines of, "This family has already suffered the terrible tragedy of having their child die, and you want us to compound it by sending them to jail?".  You don't want to make the job of convincing 12 people too dumb to avoid jury duty that the parents should be criminally liable even tougher.

[The Minsky Moment]

If one kid shot the other, it's a homicide.  If one kid shot himself it's not a homicide.
May be that Georgia law has stiffer penalties for negligently caused homicides than non-homicide deaths.
Also the case has to be charged properly with the right facts alleged.

Maybe not much sense, but we're talking state criminal law here, not common sense,

[CountDeMoney]

Even dirtball Georgia has criminal liability for child access laws regarding negligently stored weapons, so even Pa or Uncle Cooter or whoever left a loaded gun around for a kid to shoot another kid is still subject to possible prosecution.

[Ed Anger]

Ed discovers a new gun shop opening:

[11B4V]

Even dirtball Georgia has criminal liability for child access laws regarding negligently stored weapons, so even Pa or Uncle Cooter or whoever left a loaded gun around for a kid to shoot another kid is still subject to possible prosecution.

Why do people insist on keeping loaded weapons in the house.

[Ed Anger]

Even dirtball Georgia has criminal liability for child access laws regarding negligently stored weapons, so even Pa or Uncle Cooter or whoever left a loaded gun around for a kid to shoot another kid is still subject to possible prosecution.

Why do people insist on keeping loaded weapons in the house.

Loading a clip can be time consuming?

[11B4V]

Even dirtball Georgia has criminal liability for child access laws regarding negligently stored weapons, so even Pa or Uncle Cooter or whoever left a loaded gun around for a kid to shoot another kid is still subject to possible prosecution.

Why do people insist on keeping loaded weapons in the house.

Loading a clip can be time consuming?

[Ed Anger]

Announcement: I will not be attending the Knob Creek Machine Gun shoot. Apologies to those I was meeting there(Not Cal).

[CountDeMoney]

How many lives does dergreaseball have left?  Goddamn.

He claimed he fired at George Zimmerman in self-defense. Now he's going to prison for 20 years.
Washington Post
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
October 17 at 5:02 PM


Matthew Apperson — one of the many people who has gotten into a confrontation with George Zimmerman since he fatally shot Trayvon Martin in 2012 —  was sentenced to 20 years in prison after shooting at Zimmerman a year ago.

Last month, Apperson, 38, was convicted of attempted second-degree murder, armed aggravated assault and shooting into a vehicle during his May 15, 2015, confrontation with Zimmerman, the Associated Press reported. Apperson, who unsuccessfully claimed he fired in self-defense, was sentenced Monday.

Zimmerman's claim to infamy is the killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin four years ago. Martin was unarmed, carrying a pack of Skittles candy and a can of iced tea and wandering through a neighborhood in Sanford, Fla., when he got into a confrontation with Zimmerman.

Martin was black. Zimmerman, who told dispatchers that he was a neighborhood watch volunteer, identified him as Hispanic. The shooting of the teen sparked protests across the country and a nationwide conversation about "Stand Your Ground" laws.

Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon attacked him and that he fired in self-defense. He was acquitted a year after the shooting.

But the controversy has followed him, with sometimes violent results.

In August, Zimmerman was punched in the face by a guy at a bar after he boasted of being "that guy who shot Trayvon Martin."

After the punch, Ed Winters, the owner of the bar, told the Orlando Sentinel: "Everywhere this guy goes he causes controversy. You'd think he'd keep a low profile."

There were also controversies that didn't end violently. Zimmerman has twice tried to auction off the gun used to kill Trayvon. Last October, he tweeted an image of Martin's body with the words "Z-man is a one-man army."

    George Zimmerman is online posting pics of Trayvon Martin's dead body right now. Let that sink in America. #blacklivesmatter

    — Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) September 27, 2015

In 2013, he was arrested and charged with felony aggravated assault for allegedly pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend. The case was later dropped. Two years later, he was arrested again — this time on charges of domestic aggravated assault for allegedly throwing a bottle of wine at his girlfriend — and again the charges were later dropped.

The shooting involving Apperson in Lake Mary, Fla., wasn't related to the Trayvon Martin case. Apperson had testified that Zimmerman had threatened him in 2014 during a road-rage encounter, the AP reported.

Zimmerman testified last week that he was driving to a doctor's appointment on May 11, 2015, when he noticed he was being pursued by a vehicle whose driver later pulled up, exchanged words and fired one gunshot at him that missed.

"I heard a bang and my ears started ringing," Zimmerman, 32, told the jury.

[Valmy]

In a country where we routinely lock up harmless pot heads how can we not get this dangerous psycho on anything?

[CountDeMoney]

He's an American hero, man.  Lived the 2nd Anendment wet dream and bagged himself a negro AND consistently getting away with domestic violence.  Genuine American folk hero.

[Malthus]

He's an American hero, man.  Lived the 2nd Anendment wet dream and bagged himself a negro AND consistently getting away with domestic violence.  Genuine American folk hero.

Spread the nasty rumor he once called a magazine a "clip" and watch his popularity evaporate. 

[CountDeMoney]

They would say he was misquoted, that's not what he really meant, what we should really focus on is the real criminal taking our guns and getting away with murder, Hillary Cointon.

[11B4V]

How many lives does dergreaseball have left?  Goddamn.

He claimed he fired at George Zimmerman in self-defense. Now he's going to prison for 20 years.
Washington Post
By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
October 17 at 5:02 PM


Matthew Apperson — one of the many people who has gotten into a confrontation with George Zimmerman since he fatally shot Trayvon Martin in 2012 —  was sentenced to 20 years in prison after shooting at Zimmerman a year ago.

Last month, Apperson, 38, was convicted of attempted second-degree murder, armed aggravated assault and shooting into a vehicle during his May 15, 2015, confrontation with Zimmerman, the Associated Press reported. Apperson, who unsuccessfully claimed he fired in self-defense, was sentenced Monday.

Zimmerman's claim to infamy is the killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin four years ago. Martin was unarmed, carrying a pack of Skittles candy and a can of iced tea and wandering through a neighborhood in Sanford, Fla., when he got into a confrontation with Zimmerman.

Martin was black. Zimmerman, who told dispatchers that he was a neighborhood watch volunteer, identified him as Hispanic. The shooting of the teen sparked protests across the country and a nationwide conversation about "Stand Your Ground" laws.

Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon attacked him and that he fired in self-defense. He was acquitted a year after the shooting.

But the controversy has followed him, with sometimes violent results.

In August, Zimmerman was punched in the face by a guy at a bar after he boasted of being "that guy who shot Trayvon Martin."

After the punch, Ed Winters, the owner of the bar, told the Orlando Sentinel: "Everywhere this guy goes he causes controversy. You'd think he'd keep a low profile."

There were also controversies that didn't end violently. Zimmerman has twice tried to auction off the gun used to kill Trayvon. Last October, he tweeted an image of Martin's body with the words "Z-man is a one-man army."

    George Zimmerman is online posting pics of Trayvon Martin's dead body right now. Let that sink in America. #blacklivesmatter

    — Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) September 27, 2015

In 2013, he was arrested and charged with felony aggravated assault for allegedly pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend. The case was later dropped. Two years later, he was arrested again — this time on charges of domestic aggravated assault for allegedly throwing a bottle of wine at his girlfriend — and again the charges were later dropped.

The shooting involving Apperson in Lake Mary, Fla., wasn't related to the Trayvon Martin case. Apperson had testified that Zimmerman had threatened him in 2014 during a road-rage encounter, the AP reported.

Zimmerman testified last week that he was driving to a doctor's appointment on May 11, 2015, when he noticed he was being pursued by a vehicle whose driver later pulled up, exchanged words and fired one gunshot at him that missed.

"I heard a bang and my ears started ringing," Zimmerman, 32, told the jury.

Still beaner hat in eh?