Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

[Viking]

Breivik was a previously a member of the Progress Party (right wing populists) and the Progress Party Youth Organization (the equivalent organization to the one that organized the summer camp where the kids were slaughtered). The best information I have is that he was only a member for a short time and never held any formal posts.

It is fitting that the media examine the links between the PP (FrP) and the shooter; assuming that they do so honestly.

It seems that he actually founded a company to trade in agricultural goods to permit himself to buy tons of fertilizer to use in the bomb and this company has been operating for years, presumably this has been in planning for a long long long time.

[Viking]

And Aftenposten has already started taking the first hesitant steps to abuse this politically. Classy.

For mentioning the fact that he's a former Progress Party member?
That's called "information".

I'm sure you'd have loved to read how the Moslem culprits all were on welfare and voted Labour and Socialist Left.

That is a bit redundant since Muslims tend to be on welfare and vote Labour and Socialist Left much more than the population in general. While we are on the topic other information includes the Traitor and Spy Arne Treholt was a current Labour Party member when he sold his own nation's and allied nations' secrets and Vidkun Qvisling was a former Center Party (Farmers Party) member. That's a bit disingenuous Norgy.

[mongers]

The Sun got it as wrong as some of the rest of us:

[Viking]

The Sun got it as wrong as some of the rest of us:

Well, there was a period of about 4 hours after the bomb that a self identified but previously unknown muslim group claiming responsibility for the bombing, before the shooting became well known. At that point everything was consistent with what Daniel Pipes calls Sudden Jihad Syndrom like 7/7 or the US somali plot or the times square bomber or the canadian truck bomb plot. 

[Viking]

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nettavisen.no%2Fnyheter%2Farticle3196608.ece


A journalist called one of  the escaping survivors while he still was on the run on the island. A clear contender for the second biggest asshat of the day.

Utøya-sacrifice aimed strong criticism from the press after the massacre.

Tore Christensen (25) from Drammen is active in Buskerud AUF. He found himself in the middle of the drama that played out on Utøya Friday. On Saturday, dishes, he sharply criticized the media on his Twitter profile, and believe they were present at Utøya and tried to hide from the perpetrator, was put in jeopardy of journalists who tried to make contact with several of the participants there.

"I challenge Broadcasting Corporation who called me while I hid in Utøya to apologize for having put us under greater pressure and at risk. "He wrote on his Twitter profile Saturday.

A couple of hours before, he tweeted this:

"The police, volunteers, health workers and boaters deserve praise. It does not press. The press prevented escape and created hazardous conditions. "

- Called just after
He tells of a situation that was perceived as very dramatic

- I sat in the cafe building, and heard that a guy was shot 2-3 meters away. Soon after, it seemed at least as a very short time after called NRK. I had the silent and tried to be quiet as a mouse, says Tore Christensen Nettavisen.

- Provoked
He stressed that this criticism only applies to NRK.

- This is about the press in general. I am very angered when we know that there is an extraordinary situation, then they call the people who they know are on the island or not while they try to hide. I can understand that family members who may not think clearly rings, but I had some higher hopes for the profession's responsibility the press has, he says.

He says that he has talked with many who were called by different media.

- Quite a few of them I talked to afterwards had received a call from one or other form of media. In particular, VG was very insistent, he says.

And adds:

- I really hope no were revealed as they were called by the press.

Apologized
Christensen says that the journalist who called he has apologized.

- He has made contact, and I was told that NRK will go through their routines, they testified that they called me because they thought I was in the country side to be wary, he says.

Set inside the toilet
He says that he and four other people were sitting on the toilet in the café building the entire time the shooting took place.

- We tried to keep each other calm all the time.

- How were you saved?

- We heard the real police, who called out of command. I have never been so happy to see the police before, he said.

- He is now safely home with his mother in Drammen.

[mongers]

The Sun got it as wrong as some of the rest of us:

Well, there was a period of about 4 hours after the bomb that a self identified but previously unknown muslim group claiming responsibility for the bombing, before the shooting became well known. At that point everything was consistent with what Daniel Pipes calls Sudden Jihad Syndrom like 7/7 or the US somali plot or the times square bomber or the canadian truck bomb plot.

Not really as reports that an 'ethnic' Norwegian was responsible were circulating here at around 1930GMT and the Sun would only have been 'put to bed' around  2230-2300GMT, so they had time to ponder their lead, but chose to go with AQ tag.

[Slargos]

Ah. The go-to Norwegian bullshit.

"We will look over our routines".

Fucking vultures.

[rufweed]

Poor Norway, such a terrible thing.

[Viking]

Poor Norway, such a terrible thing.

Who the Fuck are You?

[jimmy olsen]

Rufweed! Long time no see!


Some horrible footage in this report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYceJss9d78&feature=player_embedded#at=281

[CountDeMoney]

Poor Norway, such a terrible thing.

Holy shit, a manburger sighting.

[Norgy]

That is a bit redundant since Muslims tend to be on welfare and vote Labour and Socialist Left much more than the population in general. While we are on the topic other information includes the Traitor and Spy Arne Treholt was a current Labour Party member when he sold his own nation's and allied nations' secrets and Vidkun Qvisling was a former Center Party (Farmers Party) member. That's a bit disingenuous Norgy.

While I see why you would want to start a debate as to how "guilt by association" is wrong, I'll just abort that right away and say that's not what I meant at all. I think everyone, regardless of political stance is in shock today and it's hardly a respectful way to mourn the dead to start assigning blame.

[Viking]

While I see why you would want to start a debate as to how "guilt by association" is wrong, I'll just abort that right away and say that's not what I meant at all. I think everyone, regardless of political stance is in shock today and it's hardly a respectful way to mourn the dead to start assigning blame.

I'm not the one pretending that his previous political affiliation means that his previous political affiliates are culpable. He left the fucking FrP because they were not, in his view, ideological or radical. He left because they did not share his values, yet, you seem determined for what seems to be political reasons to try to suggest guilt by association. Hitler had facial hair, so do you. Breivik was a member of the FpU, Steklov has a KGB file etc.etc. That is all stupid an irrellvant. Don't pretend that me mocking your stupid analogy means that I agree with it's premise.

[Viking]

The newspapers are starting to attach labels to the guy.

"Nationalist", "Extreme Rightist" and "Moved in Extreme Rightist Circles".

Nothing about his suggests nationalist, if anything he was an Ideologue at war with different Ideology. From what I gather he doesn't see Norway as anything more than a place (based on his posts in the comments section at document.no). He was a Libertarian anti-Socialist and a Christian anti-Islamist. He was not a Nationalist, an Extreme Rightist or seems to have moved in Extreme Rightist Circles... unless you consider the Progress Party an Extreme Rightist circle. From what I can gather he left the Progress Party disgusted with their mainstream ways and conciliatory attitudes and went on a one man crusade against his imagined enemies.

I haven't seen a single "he seemed like a decent well behaved young man" that you usually get with other terrorists living among us. This guy seems to have opted out of society and radicalized himself rather than been a part of a group.

[Slargos]

 

Like I said. They're going to milk these corpses dry.