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No Huckabee in 2012

Started by sbr, May 15, 2011, 11:45:17 AM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 26, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
It does make you wonder if he actually wants to win.

Win or lose, a run gives good publicity for his books.
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Quote from: derspiess on May 26, 2011, 12:05:24 PM
I've liked Bachmann ever since she bitch-slapped Chris Matthews on election night last year.

Link, please.  I've seen too much of Bachmann getting steamrolled by Chris too many times, starting with her crazy "The FBI needs to investigate for Socialists in the House of Representatives" interview.

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Quote from: crazy canuck on May 26, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
The oil company issue is probably driven by the fact that gas prices go up immidiately after oil prices go up but never seem to come down in the same way.  Also, for some reason all gas stations have the same price and increase in concert with one another - at least around here.

Highly efficient market or something else at work?

Easy.  They spike it to go as high as it can, they sustain it to make sure consumers can tolerate it for a specific time frame, and then, when they know nothing will be done about it, they drop it just *this* much, which is interpreted as a relief.

Sheilbh

Quote from: garbon on May 24, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 24, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
Romney would be a pretty moderate president. Bachmann is batshit insane.

I can get people liking Huckebee, he seems like a nice guy, but Backmann? She's a shrill ignorant harpy.

He likes the characters.
I don't like Bachmann - she's genuinely a mentalist.  I just can't stand Romney and in a way I think his single minded devotion to winning high office makes him scarier than even the Palins or Cains of this world.  He just seems like the sort of person whose every choice in life has been conditioned by the desire to be President.  I think that being human should be a minimum requirement and Romney doesn't meet that.
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

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Quote from: Sheilbh on May 27, 2011, 11:57:56 AM
I don't like Bachmann - she's genuinely a mentalist.  I just can't stand Romney and in a way I think his single minded devotion to winning high office makes him scarier than even the Palins or Cains of this world.  He just seems like the sort of person whose every choice in life has been conditioned by the desire to be President.  I think that being human should be a minimum requirement and Romney doesn't meet that.

I'd rather someone who planned for it, rather than someone who decided it might be nice to try for the presidency because they gave a nice speech.  Sticking with one's goals isn't inhuman - unless of course, one's point of view is from that of a bohemian.

But any rate, my comment was really that your "preferences" don't really seem to be related to who would actually be a good president.
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Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2011, 12:06:16 PM
I'd rather someone who planned for it, rather than someone who decided it might be nice to try for the presidency because they gave a nice speech.  Sticking with one's goals isn't inhuman - unless of course, one's point of view is from that of a bohemian.

But any rate, my comment was really that your "preferences" don't really seem to be related to who would actually be a good president.
I gotta agree, Sheilbh.  "I'd rather see Bachmann in the White House than Romney" had to be the strangest thing I had heard you say on Languish, until you accused Romney of being nonhuman.  I'd say you are allowing your dislike of the man to make you take silly positions.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You'd be amazed at how little private funding drives technology these days.

You mean like Twitter, Google and Microsoft?

Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 27, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You'd be amazed at how little private funding drives technology these days.

You mean like Twitter, Google and Microsoft?

When it comes to energy I am relying on T Boone Pickens myself.

Well he and the good tax payers of Germany and Japan who have picked up alot of the tab in developing commerical renewable energy sources.
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Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2011, 12:06:16 PM
Sticking with one's goals isn't inhuman - unless of course, one's point of view is from that of a bohemian.
I never moaned about him sticking with his goals.  It's that he gives the impression that nothing he's ever done has been done without the consideration of his eventual Presidential run.  He's like Gordon Brown without the easy warmth and charm.

QuoteBut any rate, my comment was really that your "preferences" don't really seem to be related to who would actually be a good president.
I think character matters a lot.  My actual preferences for the Presidency would be Obama, Biden, Huckabee, Rubio, Daniels, Huntsman and maybe Jeb Bush.  I can't think of many other Democrats.

Romney is just at the bottom of my anti-preference, with Gravel.
Let's bomb Russia!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Valmy on May 27, 2011, 12:45:41 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 27, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You'd be amazed at how little private funding drives technology these days.

You mean like Twitter, Google and Microsoft?

When it comes to energy I am relying on T Boone Pickens myself.

Well he and the good tax payers of Germany and Japan who have picked up alot of the tab in developing commerical renewable energy sources.

Even if you read Neil as qualifying his statement about technology as being limited to renewable energy technology, there is a lot of private investment going on in that area.  It has the feel of the tech boom of the late 90s.

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 27, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You'd be amazed at how little private funding drives technology these days.
You mean like Twitter, Google and Microsoft?
Exactly.  The only thing you can trust private money to do is to iterate the work of others in order to turn a buck.  True discovery is beyond them.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on May 27, 2011, 11:57:56 AM
I think that being human should be a minimum requirement and Romney doesn't meet that.
While US presidents are invariably biologically human, they nature of modern politics and journalism are such that people who haven't been groomed for the office from childhood are inevitably excluded.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 26, 2011, 12:05:24 PM
I've liked Bachmann ever since she bitch-slapped Chris Matthews on election night last year.

Link, please.  I've seen too much of Bachmann getting steamrolled by Chris too many times, starting with her crazy "The FBI needs to investigate for Socialists in the House of Representatives" interview.

Claiming the FBI needs to investigate for Socialists counts as "bitch-slapping" in the conservative Breitbart mindset.

I remember someone put up a clip from Chris Matthews where some GOPtard was rambling on about appeasement and Munich and Matthews asked if the guy even knew what happened at Munich.  It quickly became evident the GOPtard did not and Derspeiss considered this "unfair".
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derspiess

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 27, 2011, 11:57:56 AM
I just can't stand Romney and in a way I think his single minded devotion to winning high office makes him scarier than even the Palins or Cains of this world.  He just seems like the sort of person whose every choice in life has been conditioned by the desire to be President. 

Did you dislike Clinton for the same reasons?
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