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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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crazy canuck

Also, this is likely going to get political

QuoteVan Rootselaar identified as a female, but was assigned male at birth. She started transitioning about six years ago. She dropped out of school around four years ago.

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Sophie Scholl

Fuck. A tragic situation made even worse.  :(
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Josephus

no words

 :(

My niece is a counsellor in the BC school system....think she's gonna be very busy.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 11, 2026, 04:51:21 PMAlso, this is likely going to get political

QuoteVan Rootselaar identified as a female, but was assigned male at birth. She started transitioning about six years ago. She dropped out of school around four years ago.



Oh shit.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Zoupa

Perp was posting nazi stuff online and bitching about indians. How many Indian immigrants did he really encounter in their northern BC village of 2400 people?

The internet really rots ppl's brains.

Valmy

Quote from: Zoupa on February 12, 2026, 01:41:34 AMPerp was posting nazi stuff online and bitching about indians. How many Indian immigrants did he really encounter in their northern BC village of 2400 people?

The internet really rots ppl's brains.

Oh. One of those people.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

crazy canuck

Quote from: Zoupa on February 12, 2026, 01:41:34 AMPerp was posting nazi stuff online and bitching about indians. How many Indian immigrants did he really encounter in their northern BC village of 2400 people?

The internet really rots ppl's brains.

What is your source for that?
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

crazy canuck

Here is a deep dive into the background of the killer.  A tragic story, including a lot of distress over the difficulty obtaining HRT in small town BC.  No mention of what Zoupa posted.  Gifted link.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/519974dc5e28f762a87fb14c1570523f4fb873adfcfcb945043907ccc3c41650/6VKLTFS4VBCT5NMEXSF36A6DW4/
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 12, 2026, 08:19:35 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on February 12, 2026, 01:41:34 AMPerp was posting nazi stuff online and bitching about indians. How many Indian immigrants did he really encounter in their northern BC village of 2400 people?

The internet really rots ppl's brains.

What is your source for that?

https://www.adl.org/resources/article/tumbler-ridge-shooter-had-interest-gore-guns-and-white-supremacy

QuoteOn February 10, 2026, a shooter opened fire at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School in British Columbia, Canada, killing at least seven people and injuring more than 25 others. Two additional individuals were found dead at a nearby home. The shooter was found dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Preliminary research by the ADL Center on Extremism (COE) suggests the shooter, who police have identified as Jesse Van Rootselaar, followed a troubling pattern of online radicalization marked by engagement with white supremacist ideology and a self-described addiction to gore content. Unlike recent school attackers, the Tumbler Ridge shooter does not appear to have left behind a manifesto outlining their motives. However, their extensive digital footprint across platforms, including X, WatchPeopleDie (WPD), and Reddit, displays a fascination with violence and white supremacy.

On X, an account believed to belong to the shooter shared content glorifying previous mass killers, including the 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooter and the 2019 Christchurch mosque shooter. The Tumbler Ridge shooter's X profile photo also featured an image of the Christchurch shooter superimposed over a Sonnenrad, a neo-Nazi symbol, and a transgender pride flag.

The account regularly shared racist and antisemitic content. In a tweet posted just two days before the attack, the alleged Tumbler Ridge shooter wrote, "I need to hate jews because the zionists want me to hate jews. This benefits them, somehow." The account also promoted neo-Nazi Harold Covington and the Northwest Territorial Imperative, an idea originally promoted by Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler in the 1970s that white people should move to the Pacific Northwest in order eventually to form a white-only nation there.

The Tumbler Ridge shooter also appears to have been active on WatchPeopleDie (WPD), an online forum dedicated to hosting gore and violent death videos where glorification of mass shooters and extremist rhetoric is rampant. COE analysts located a WPD account believed to belong to the shooter that featured numerous images of guns and several videos of them firing these weapons, though the videos have since been removed by site moderators. COE analysts also identified gun-related posts that are believed to have been posted by the alleged shooter on YouTube and Reddit.

Beyond posting weapons content, the shooter actively consumed death and violence videos on WPD. Two months before the attack, they viewed the WPD profile associated with the 2024 Abundant Life school shooter.

WPD has been linked to several school attackers, including the 2025 Evergreen, 2025 Antioch and 2024 Abundant Life shooters, among others.

In an August 2025 post on WPD, the alleged Tumbler Ridge shooter wrote that they found violent content "addictive," writing, "I've tried to stray [sic] away from watching this type of thing before cuz it really sucks me in and is a massive useless time dump."

"To say it 'doesn't effect [sic] me is likely naive," they wrote, adding that "it just doesn't feel like a big deal."
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josephus

Quote from: Zoupa on February 12, 2026, 01:41:34 AMPerp was posting nazi stuff online and bitching about indians. How many Indian immigrants did he really encounter in their northern BC village of 2400 people?

The internet really rots ppl's brains.

Maybe she didn't mean immigrant Indians? I don't know, I haven't read any of it—. But maybe she meant native Indians? There's a few of them in B.C
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

crazy canuck

So the source appears to be a special interest group who "believes" the person who made the posts is the killer.

I think I'll wait for something a little more concrete than that.
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 12, 2026, 11:20:46 AMSo the source appears to be a special interest group who "believes" the person who made the posts is the killer.

I think I'll wait for something a little more concrete than that.
Yeah, Trump supporters don't care for the ADL either.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

Quote from: Zoupa on February 12, 2026, 01:41:34 AMThe internet really rots ppl's brains.

This is one of those things which truly goes both ways.

Left can point to anti-immigrant statements.  Right can point to the shooter being trans.

Sometimes a tragedy is just a tragedy.  The shooter - Jesse Van Rootselaar aka Jesse Strang - clearly had some MH issues.

This resonates because my kids are the same age as many of the victims.  And while I don't think I was ever in Tumbler Ridge, I was in the Peace Country for a few years, which is the general area.

I await hearing more information.  You obviously can't just lock up trans people.  You obviously can't just take guns away from people.  Yet in this stupid culture war online era that's basically what people are going to be suggesting.



I will admit I think the media is being cautious about the trans angle, but is reporting it.  I very much doubt the shooter being trans is a major cause of the shooting, but given the culture war bullshit I was afraid the CBC and the like would ignore that factor entirely.
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