[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Valmy]

Clearly this was a mistake.

What? No! I need you to stay around so we can talk Hockey.

You bastards leave BB alone!

[Zoupa]

I'm not sure how "let's see what the investigation reveals" is so egregious?

Jesus Christ folks.

[crazy canuck]

I'm not sure how "let's see what the investigation reveals" is so egregious?

Jesus Christ folks.

You're right, and if that is all that BB said nobody probably would've reacted to it.

But you're ignoring the bit that both Sophie and I actually reacted to.

[crazy canuck]

Last year, Immigration Minister Marc Miller was indirectly quoted by the CBC as indicating the three-year requirement is only a hard requirement going forward:

Miller said his department will offer "discretionary" citizenship grants for affected people who were born or adopted before Dec. 19, 2023 — the date of the original Ontario court ruling.

Potential "lost Canadians" born or adopted after that date who have a citizen parent who has spent at least three cumulative years in Canada are also eligible for citizenship under the interim rules.

The government's own backgrounder also makes a distinction between those born or adopted before and after the date of passage, only attaching the three-year requirement to the latter:

On June 5, 2025, the government introduced Bill C-3, An Act to Amend the Citizenship Act (2025), to extend citizenship by descent beyond the first-generation in a way that is more inclusive and protects the value of Canadian citizenship. The bill received royal assent on November 20, 2025, and came into effect on December 15, 2025. This means that IRCC now recognizes new eligible citizens and is applying the new rules for passing citizenship on going forward. With the coming into effect of this bill

    people who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new law can apply to get proof of Canadian citizenship
    people adopted abroad before December 15, 2025, by a Canadian parent born or adopted abroad can apply for Canadian citizenship for an adopted child
    people born or adopted abroad on or after December 15, 2025, to a Canadian parent also born or adopted abroad must demonstrate that their Canadian parent has spent three years in Canada when applying for proof of Canadian citizenship, or applying for Canadian citizenship for an adopted child
    people born before December 15, 2025, who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new law and were not previously granted citizenship, and who now want to give up (renounce) Canadian citizenship can apply through a simplified renunciation process

The IRCC website also makes this distinction:

If you were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent

If you were born outside of Canada before December 15, 2025, you're likely a Canadian citizen if your parent was also a Canadian citizen when you were born.

If you were born outside of Canada on or after December 15, 2025, to a Canadian parent also born outside of Canada, you're likely a Canadian citizen if

    your parent was also a Canadian citizen when you were born, and
    your Canadian parent spent at least 1,095 days in Canada before you were born

If your parent became a citizen after you were born

You're not automatically a Canadian citizen if your parent was granted Canadian citizenship after you were born.

There is still the question of chaining, as that final bullet from the IRCC site implies there may be limits on that, but all sources are clear to me that the three-year requirement does not apply to those people who are applying that GF has been talking about, as they would (potentially) have qualified before the new bill, and it was the new bill that added the three-year requirement.

Is there something wrong with my interpretation of these statements?  When GF partially quoted this earlier, you said it was saying the same thing as you, but that's not how I read it.

I'm not sure how many times I can say this and this will probably be the last time.


I posted the amendments to the act that came into force in December.  Those amendments make it clear that in each case there must be a significant connection with Canada by the parent of the person making the application.

I explained the reason for the legislation in another post and I won't go into detail about that again, but the brief summary is the amendments were made to deal with a constitutional challenge which made the legislation to narrow. Please go up thread and read the detailed reason I gave for that constitutional challenge.

In the bits you quoted from the website, there is a conjunctive "and" which includes the substantial connection requirement.  Please also note the word "likely".  The website is not meant to be a comprehensive description of entitlements.  It's just meant as a public notice that an amendment was made to the act and folks ought to go. Read the act to see all the details.

Lastly, the final paragraph you quoted not only means that there is a break in the "chain" it means that there is no possibility than to establish the requirements of the Canadian parent having had a substantial connection with Canada before the applicant was born.  That's just common sense not support for some implied argument that so long as there is some "chain" linking to some distant ancestor who wants stepped foot in Canada is all that is required to gain Canadian citizenship.

Do you have any idea how many tourists come to Canada and have done so since confederation?

The theory being supported by social media AI and GF is that the descendants of all of those people, no matter how many generations ago that tourists at foot in Canada, are now citizens.

[viper37]

Do you have any idea how many tourists come to Canada and have done so since confederation?

It's not about tourists, nobody ever said anything about tourists.

[Grey Fox]

Just making stuff up now to avoid acknowledging the pre-2025 situation and the death clauses of the citizenship act.

Will you also ignore people celebrating their citizenship in the coming months?