Another Languish EU3 game? Weeknights EST?

[Berkut]

Take the healthcare discussion back to OT.

[Kleves]

Well, Hans, if you want Russia back, you can have it. Let me know if you want it.

[Berkut]

I sent him a PM as well.

For the moment, I think we should assume that Kleves is playing Russia, as Hansy still looks to be pretty hit and miss. He is certainly welcome to drop in when he can make it and pick up pretty much any country he likes to play.

Actually, that pretty much goes for nearly anyone who would like to get their feet wet playing EU3 MP. The nice thing is that you can always just play a country for a session if you want to give it a try. Can't guarantee the country won't be a mess of course, but hey, it is probably still a lot of fun.

[Kleves]

If we don't hear from Hans in the next few hours, I am going to assume that I will be playing Russia. It is important that we work this out fairly quickly, since I will have to get off work early tomorrow if I am going to make the start of the game (which isn't a problem, unless it turns out I'm not playing).

[Kleves]

Well, I've asked for the time off, so hopefully there will be somewhere for me to play.

[Hansmeister]

I'll be playing tomorrow, but I'm flexible as to which country if Kleves got too attached.

[Habbaku]

The decision of who's playing what, I will leave between Hans and Kleves to sort out.  I will, however, note that the following countries are eminently playable, should we end up having to switch someone around :

Portugal :  They are reduced, to be sure, but they still have colonies--albeit in revolt--and their situation is not irrecoverable, provided they make friends with Spain for at least the next session.  They will, however, be spending some time recovering.

Hungary : Respectably sized and with a sizable economy, but also sandwiched in between two far-stronger powers.  They are, however, currently allied with France, which could shield them from the worst.

Venice : Reduced, as Portugal, but with room to expand into the Italian states that haven't been grabbed up and they still have plenty of cash on hand--not to mention that neither Austria nor the Turks are content with the other gobbling them up at the moment, so they'd be safe.

Urbino : Another Italian state, albeit one with only two provinces.  They are, however, well-positioned to expand and declare the Kingdom of Italy, allowing them quite a bit of room for growth, especially if allied with France or Austria.

Khorasan : Easily the most powerful Muslim state, aside from the Turks.  They are rich, strong and well-positioned to form the Mughal Empire after but a few Holy Wars with the Hindus that currently own the necessary provinces.  If those provinces are taken, this could easily become a force to reckon with, especially since the Mughals get plenty of Indian cores--something that will get them in conflict with Europe in a matter of years when the colonials start to pour that way.

Viyanangar : A reasonably-strong and unified India state, currently holding all of the southern part of the sub-continent and relatively well-positioned to expand, once they stabilize.  Of course, they are in the Indian tech group, which is rough at the best of times, but they can get a border with Muslims and bring themselves up.

Brandenburg : Probably the least playable of the group, since they're Austria's vassal at the moment, but if they break free of that, then they could definitely expand to form Prussia, which could transition to a force to be reckoned with in the 1600s, once they get their military reforms.

[katmai]

What kind of moron allied with Hungary? Oh me that's who.

[katmai]

Oh habbu, does that list who alci if so inclined to pop in for one session can play?
Of course his selection would have to be after whomever doesn't play Russia

[Habbaku]

Oh habbu, does that list who alci if so inclined to pop in for one session can play?
Of course his selection would have to be after whomever doesn't play Russia

Nah, I forgot to take that into account.  If Alci plays and neither Kleves nor Hans want to play them, I really encourage him to play Khorasan.  A Persian-power-turned-Mughal Empire would be incredibly amusing to watch...and given that they're probably soon to border me, they can easily westernize should the opportunity and monarch present themselves.

[Viking]

The decision of who's playing what, I will leave between Hans and Kleves to sort out.  I will, however, note that the following countries are eminently playable, should we end up having to switch someone around :

Portugal :  They are reduced, to be sure, but they still have colonies--albeit in revolt--and their situation is not irrecoverable, provided they make friends with Spain for at least the next session.  They will, however, be spending some time recovering.

England took their colonies and Castille took their provinces. Don't.

Hungary : Respectably sized and with a sizable economy, but also sandwiched in between two far-stronger powers.  They are, however, currently allied with France, which could shield them from the worst.

France WTF? I just Guaranteed them. Hungary has taken bits from Poland.

Venice : Reduced, as Portugal, but with room to expand into the Italian states that haven't been grabbed up and they still have plenty of cash on hand--not to mention that neither Austria nor the Turks are content with the other gobbling them up at the moment, so they'd be safe.

Venice, Istria, Croatia and Corfu. That is Venice.

Urbino : Another Italian state, albeit one with only two provinces.  They are, however, well-positioned to expand and declare the Kingdom of Italy, allowing them quite a bit of room for growth, especially if allied with France or Austria.

OPM.

Khorasan : Easily the most powerful Muslim state, aside from the Turks.  They are rich, strong and well-positioned to form the Mughal Empire after but a few Holy Wars with the Hindus that currently own the necessary provinces.  If those provinces are taken, this could easily become a force to reckon with, especially since the Mughals get plenty of Indian cores--something that will get them in conflict with Europe in a matter of years when the colonials start to pour that way.

At war with the Ottomans right now. Controls most of Persia. This one might work.

Viyanangar : A reasonably-strong and unified India state, currently holding all of the southern part of the sub-continent and relatively well-positioned to expand, once they stabilize.  Of course, they are in the Indian tech group, which is rough at the best of times, but they can get a border with Muslims and bring themselves up.

Agreed.

Brandenburg : Probably the least playable of the group, since they're Austria's vassal at the moment, but if they break free of that, then they could definitely expand to form Prussia, which could transition to a force to be reckoned with in the 1600s, once they get their military reforms.

3PM, Austrian Vassal. If you take Brandenburg vassaldom or death are your only two offers. Any slacking in wars means death.


Other possibilities include Denmark, Lithuania, Al-Djazir, Ming and Japan.

[Habbaku]

Urbino : Another Italian state, albeit one with only two provinces.  They are, however, well-positioned to expand and declare the Kingdom of Italy, allowing them quite a bit of room for growth, especially if allied with France or Austria.

OPM.

You can't count.

[katmai]

You guaranteeded them but I'm allied so

[Habbaku]

As if Austria's guarantee on them actually means anything.

Khorasan, while at war with me, doesn't currently have a border with me and peace will ensue as soon as Oman is dealt with.

[Viking]

As if Austria's guarantee on them actually means anything.

Khorasan, while at war with me, doesn't currently have a border with me and peace will ensue as soon as Oman is dealt with.

Come and find out.